storage-devices

[cloud kiln]

though it depends on the amount of mods and how many players

because even like a top end cpu, like a 7950x struggles with running a server of like 40 people

with a bunch of server side plugins (it was a vanilla+ server basically; clients were vanilla, and all the extra features were serverside implemented via plugins)

[unreal bough]

i want to buy the 45home lab but i hate noise is there any away to quite it

[cloud kiln]

your bigger issue is usually heat

easy to quiet down a server; use quieter fans

but you'll need a way to get rid of the heat

from the room

though i'll say this is likely less of an issue with a NAS, but 24 hdds, plus a xeon is still going to output a fair bit of heat
though putting it in the basement may be enough if you have a basement

[unreal bough]

homelab 15 has 15 bays or i can ge the define 7 xl

[cloud kiln]

oh i thought you wanted the 24 bay one

honestly i dont think it is loud out of the box?

[unreal bough]

was thinking about it but then the gf give me the finger

[cloud kiln]

stock fans are 32.80 dB at max rpm

according to the specs

[unreal bough]

she hates nosie i hate nosie i hate heat cause i get super bad yeast infections and then i got to take more meds is that loud or should i go with nocutua

[cloud kiln]

you can upgrade to noctua, or arctic p12 is also fine

iirc there's also some other noctua clone that is pretty quiet

changing the fans wont fix the room heat issue, though with only 15 drives, and a regular cpu, it shouldnt get hot

[unreal bough]

ok or what what define 7 xl

[blazing musk]

Noise spec is basically useless since every brand measures differently and they also don't specify variables like ambient noise and distance

[unreal bough]

ok

[cloud kiln]

both would end up being around the same sound level and heat since you'll have the same parts in it

but the fractal define 7 xl wont have a drive backplane

a slight bit more of a pain to wire up

both options will require HBAs

hl15 includes the HBA though

[cloud kiln]

😔 that's true
has anyone made a fan DB yet for measuring max CFM and DB

[unreal bough]

i dont lnow

[cloud kiln]

that was a lie
i thought the nvme carrier board was a HBA

[blazing musk]

GN is working on it, still in beta

[cloud kiln]

ah

[blazing musk]

https://youtu.be/JQtyxRtsqvA?si=gljq-bOhlbxOVXlq

Almost there

I like the tagline too, "it turns out physics is hard"

[cloud kiln]

lol

[brisk dome]

There's also the fact that different fan noises exist

Like a quiet whine might be more noticeable/annoying than a louder "whoosh"

[cloud kiln]

true

manufacturers should start putting a spectrogram instead of just x db

[sinful salmon]

But spectrogram hard to market, how are they gonna get the big claim brownie points?

[sand tartan]

Guys, I have 1Gbps network speed & get around 110MB/s through my pc network share to other PCs. If I were to buy a NAS, would I have the same/similar speeds?

I’m also thinking about just cloning a drive from one pc to one of my old pc, but I’m not sure if copy & pasting files every time I have new ones is the same as cloning as in if I transferred the files back to the original pc, every file will still work

It doesn’t have any boot drives or anything, just backups of my phones/pcs

[minor sun]

Transfer speeds will only ever be as fast as the slowest link in the chain, whether that be the read speed of the drive you're reading from, the speed at which the CPU can process it, the network speed, and the write speed of the drive you're writing to, if your current limitation is the read speed of your drive you're reading from, it'll still be the limitation even if the nas can write at higher speeds, and if the nas can only write at lower speeds, your speed will drop.

[minor sun]

generally non-boot drives can just be cloned and work, with the only limitation of shortcuts being finnicky if the drive letter are different

for example, if you clone your D: drive to the E: drive, a previous shortcut to say D:folder/file won't work anymore and you'd have to edit it to E:folder/file

[sand tartan]

Hmm I’m not sure what a NAS CPU typically uses, I’m only basing my speeds off a 5600g cpu (main pc) to a fx 4300 cpu (old pc) & 3600 cpu (gaming pc) they all transfer to & from my gaming pc at around 110MB/s

[sand tartan]

That’s fine, I can fix the shortcuts in the future

[minor sun]

generally your CPU doesn't need to be that good for transfer speeds, but for example I wouldn't expect the fx4300 to keep up if you can do at or above 1gb/s

[minor sun]

my guess is your current limitation is wifi unless they're all using ethernet and using some kind of local network

[sand tartan]

They’re all on Ethernet, I think it’s because my ISP speed is too slow to match the hard drive’s speeds

I also don’t think that upgrading my ISP speeds would make it any faster since all of my PCs have a 1gb network jack, but I’m realizing that it’ll be cheaper to just use my old pc to transfer files, I’ll have to do sections at a time just in case my power goes out bc it goes out at the worst times

[minor sun]

best would just to be plugging the drives into the same PC lol

[sand tartan]

Ohhh I didn’t even think of that lol

[cloud kiln]

your ISP speeds don't matter unless you're accessing your NAS outside of your LAN

also 110mb/s sounds about right for hard drive transfer speeds assuming that you're transferring to or from a hdd

[sand tartan]

Wait I thought that hard drives could do up to like 250MB/s inside a LAN

[minor sun]

peak sequential speeds would be higher than actual transfer speeds with variable sized files, that'd look something like this for real files

compared to just peak seq performance, it's like moving a single file vs a folder with like 1000 files

[sand tartan]

Ohhh that’s why I see files slow down sometimes when I’m moving a lot

[minor sun]

hdd can write a lot faster if it just has to read/write one big block, but if it has to move around to get to smaller files and then move after each file, the average speed comes down

[cloud kiln]

You could also try an iperf2 test between 2 computers on your LAN to see if the limit is the wifi or such

[jovial dirge]

Hey guys, A while back i installed an SSD in my PC and left my HDD unplugged because there was conflict between the 2 plugged in or something, I need more storage, is it as simple as plugging my hard drive back in and my PC recognizing it again? thanks!

[cloud kiln]

probably

probably still formatted

so it'll probably work

[jovial dirge]

yup i got it working

[brisk dome]

Bad news: the ssd I got for my mini PC is overheating (controller at 85+C)
Good news: my housemate had little heatsinks I could put on it
Bad news: even with the heatsinks it climbs (slower) back up to unsafe temps
Good news: a fan blowing over the heatsinks takes it back down to 60C under load
Bad news: I now have to mcgyver a fan into this tiny chassis (with no fan headers)

Hmm, seems it's not just me.

https://www.techpowerup.com/forums/threads/samsung-pm981-temperatures-on-load.243496/

https://linustechtips.com/topic/992010-nvme-temperature-help/?do=findComment&comment=11939047

[cloud kiln]

you can tell that this is getting scary hot by the discolouration on the sticker lmao

[brisk dome]

I didn't notice that lol. Pretty sure it's actually just weird lighting in the photo though

Bc that part of the sticker is on the and chip and those were fine temps

[cloud kiln]

i'd hope so

[brisk dome]

Only the controller was getting crazy hot

I looked for a firmware update but couldn't find a matching one unfortunately

Good news: the mobo actually does have a (mini) fan header so imma grab a mini blower fan and larger sink from Ali

[blazing musk]

Samsung drive with no heatsink moment

[brisk dome]

Yeah...

[quiet gust]

thanks samsung for making screws so small and fragile

[blazing musk]

Well ofc, they had to tell if you opened it to deny warranty for opening it

[surreal kestrel]

Does anyone know why my m.2 nvme isn't being recognized as a bootable drive when I formatted it and converted it to gpt?

It's only recognized when csm is enabled but I need it disabled for windows 11 install

[cloud kiln]

As long as the drive is being reported as being connected, it is going to work
You do not need to change the drive to gpt manually for a fresh install as windows will do that automatically while formatting the drive to be installed onto

[surreal kestrel]

When I run the windows install it gets to about 80 percent and then does a restart and then boots right back into the first install menu like nothing happened, is there a fix for that? Thanks

[cloud kiln]

kinda sounds like it was installed properly
your boot order might just be set to the installation usb or cd, so it just keeps booting back into that

try shutting off the pc, removing the installation usb and turning it back on

[surreal kestrel]

Will do and let you know how it goes

I appreciate your help so far

[surreal kestrel]

Just tried it and it boots straight into bios and there are no bootable drives

[cloud kiln]

hmm

strange

[surreal kestrel]

I've tried changing the nvme slot with no luck

[cloud kiln]

does the drive show up on the bios at all

like does it list the drive name?

[surreal kestrel]

Under nvme configuration yes

[cloud kiln]

hmm

[surreal kestrel]

And under peripherals

[cloud kiln]

weird
maybe try making a new installation usb

or actually

[surreal kestrel]

I've tried that too 😭

[cloud kiln]

maybe the boot sequence isnt configured with uefi?

uhh

[surreal kestrel]

How would I check that?

[cloud kiln]

in advanced mode, go to boot, boot option priorities

see if that has anything

im not too familiar with gigabyte's uefi menu

[cloud kiln]

try to enter boot option priorities if possible

[surreal kestrel]

Can't, it skips right over

This is after cleaning the drive and converting to gpt using diskpart

[surreal kestrel]

I got it fixed yall

[echo scroll]

Is 990 evo plus compatible in ps5?

[minor sun]

Should meet the ps5 requirements

[blazing musk]

As far as speed, yes, but get one without a heatsink or it won't physically fit

[echo scroll]

I just put one in my laptop. Gen 4 but speeds still great.

Just wasn't sure if the ps5 accepted it because it's "gen 5"

[blazing musk]

It's technically gen 5 but it runs at half the lanes, so it's effectively the same as gen 4 x4

Anyway PCIe is fully forward and backward compatible

[uneven yacht]

Is there m.2 2tb suggestions?

[formal tusk]

Klevv c910 covers basically everything in US rn

[cinder hound]

Hey guys

I was sent here

To ask for where I can get an HBA card?

Wth is that

Erm for cheap in particular

[blazing musk]

Why do you need a HBA? That's for connecting a bunch of enterprise grade SAS drives. SATA ones exist too but it's cheaper to just get a standard 4 port PCIe card.

[cinder hound]

Ok so there was a mis understanding

I actually don’t need one

[blazing musk]

Most people don't unless you're building a homelab or something

Even I don't have one. I just use an old workstation that has a bunch of SATA ports.

[cinder hound]

Interesting

[cloud kiln]

i mean

they are cheap on ebay

but yeah you would probably not need one lmao

[shell imp]

hey could someone please recommend me the overall cheapest/value 1tb internal ssd?

currently have a team group one that i got for free from newegg

[shell imp]

Gonna buy this probably thank you

[brisk dome]

At 50-55 for 1tb the c910 is excellent

[shell imp]

i lowkey want a 2tb its under 100 for the c910, pull the trigger on it?

[brisk dome]

If you need the storage, sure. It's not like the insane deals we were getting back when there was nand flash overproduction but in the current market it's a good pick

[shell imp]

think i may just wait for a sale to be honest, dont need it too much atm.

[brisk dome]

I wouldn't expect any big sales but it's also been around that price for quite a while so I don't think it would go up drastically

I guess there's tarrifs so if you're in the US maybe a 25% bump once stock from before the tarrifs runs out, idk

[shut brook]

How noticeable is going from a PCI 3.0 m.2 to PCI 4.0?

I currently have a SN750 NVMe 3.0, curious if it's worthwhile to move to a 4.0 or even 5.0 in my next build

[dense merlin]

For gaming, it won't be noticeable

[shut brook]

Are there any m.2 brands to avoid?

[dense merlin]

Samsung is normally overpriced asf

What capacity are you looking for?

2tb?

[shut brook]

Yeah probably

[dense merlin]

Mp44l is solid

[shut brook]

https://www.newegg.com/team-group-2tb-mp44l-nvme-1-4/p/N82E16820331920

This one?

[dense merlin]

Yeah

[shut brook]

Nice, I will check it out

[brisk dome]

Or Klevv Cras c910

[shut brook]

I think I will do the teamgroup, and do Klevv memory

[dense merlin]

@shut brook if you want 4tb
https://www.ebay.com/itm/126909152729?mkcid=16&mkevt=1&mkrid=711-127632-2357-0&ssspo=I8ORr0BxSt6&sssrc=4429486&ssuid=r8em-zv_qyc&var=&widget_ver=artemis&media=COPY

[shell imp]

is the 990 evo plus good?

[shell imp]

saw some random reddit threads about it not having DRAM or something

[minor sun]

990 evo plus uses HMB, it's still good

[blazing musk]

Just make sure to update the firmware so it doesn't kill itself

[blazing musk]

DRAM cache doesn't matter on modern drives. That mattered a lot on SATA but not on PCIe ones.

Modern stuff is just that much faster

[quiet gust]

is an hdd meant to live this long? :0

[blazing musk]

If you're lucky

The low power on count helps with that. The motor is under the most strain when spinning up.

[cloud kiln]

15 years is crazy though

[quiet gust]

what scsi card and cable do you recommended to test a scsi drive (pn: ibm 33p3372)?

anything cheap

it uses a high density db 68pin scsi connector

[uneven yacht]

Guys, im installing an M.2 on the B650 Eagle, but this green-marked thing is blocking it. Also, is it normal for the yellow-marked M.2 to be positioned like this?

[sinful salmon]

The green things are the retention mechanism for the SSD

You pull out the plug

It's either like a screw hole protector, or just the retention mechanism

[uneven yacht]

Yeah thx ive already installed it

[sinful salmon]

As for the SSD

If it goes in easy, it sits

[uneven yacht]

This is the most useless thing I’ve ever seen till now on new mobos

[sinful salmon]

You didn't force anything right

[uneven yacht]

No i did not

[sinful salmon]

Then it's just that way

[uneven yacht]

Done mate

[sinful salmon]

Nice

At least it's a toolless mount

That's pretty cool right?

[uneven yacht]

Supposed to be

[stone tangle]

So my new PC comes in tomorrow. If I just take the SSD out of my current build and put it in the new one, would it work alright? I know there would be some driver issues, but to what extent? Is it something I could easily fix? Or would I be better off just using a clean install?

It does come with an SSD, just thought it might be more convenient to swap it with the one I'm already using so I don't have to reinstall anything or risk losing progress on certain games that don't have cloud saves.

[blazing musk]

Ideally you would reinstall Windows.
If you're moving between 2 systems on the same chipset, you're probably ok.
If you're moving from Intel to AMD or vice versa, there's a chance the system might not boot.
If you're moving from AM4 to AM5, it will boot but you'll sacrifice 10-20% of your CPU performance.

[stone tangle]

Yeah, different chipset and everything. Oh well. I can just back up my non cloud synced files on my external SSD.

[blazing musk]

What's the CPU on the new and old system

[stone tangle]

Old is 5700X3D, new is Intel i5 14400F (I know it's a slight downgrade but the GPU is a huge upgrade so it balances out)

[blazing musk]

What you could do is have the reinstallation USB ready just in case, and try swapping the drive. If it boots, run the PC refresh from settings and install all the new system's drivers. If it fails, run the installer and tell it to install over your existing Windows installation. Either of those methods should result in no data loss, but you'll need to install programs and drivers again.

[sharp folio]

If I want to get an M.2 that's high speed and also 4TB (with DRAM), what should I get?

Don't need a heatsink, my board has them built in for every slot

[blazing musk]

Define "high speed"

What would you need it for

Also DRAM cache doesn't matter on nvme drives

[sharp folio]

Gaming and programming are my concerns, sometimes with very large projects that take an hour plus on a HDD (I learned this was a bad idea from experience)

[blazing musk]

Hard drives are indeed pain for compiling, but you'd only need good random read/write performance for that

[sharp folio]

CI in a GitHub run for the main slow one is about ten minutes

And then Cargo is slow, not sure how much that can really be improved by drive speed

[sharp folio]

Wouldn't it help in this scenario?

[blazing musk]

Not in any noticeable way

[sharp folio]

Okay

[sharp folio]

Huh...I might be losing performance...

Can't remember if I reinstalled when I upgraded to AM5 or not

I probably didn't

Or did I

[sharp folio]

Do you have any recommendations?

[blazing musk]

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/ZM4Zxr/silicon-power-us75-4-tb-m2-2280-pcie-40-x4-nvme-solid-state-drive-sp04kgbp44us7505

[stone tangle]

Well, it was delayed. Apparently the UPS driver doesn't want to deliver in the middle of a blizzard for some reason smh

[sullen oxide]

Lazy smh
Can’t trust these ups drivers to do anything anymore

[cloud kiln]

Ikr they should be risking their life

[shut brook]

Just doing one last round of feedback before I finalized my list of parts, anyone have anything negative to say about this m.2? https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0B9Y48V73?tag=pcpapi-20&linkCode=ogi&th=1

[blazing musk]

Meanwhile, Amazon DSP dispatch: "yes, the sign says 2 ton weight limit on the wooden bridge, and your van is 5 tons plus cargo and fuel... But can you try driving over it anyway?"
||This is an actual conversation I, the driver, had with dispatch||

[stone tangle]

It arrived and they completely cheaped out on the SSD. Who uses PCIe 3 in 2025?

[woeful solar]

Literally a lot of people

[shut brook]

its cheaper and im guessing the difference is hardly noticeable for most things

[woeful solar]

You will effectively never even max out PCIe 3 SSD bandwidth

[shut brook]

when i researched getting gen5 instead of gen4 i realized its just number go up without much meaning

and for a massive premium

[woeful solar]

PCIE 4 and 5 are literally that yeah

MAYBE the occasional game loads half a second faster

[shut brook]

theres some reasonably priced gen5, but they have reviews all over the place

im already overpaying on 3 components, i dont need to overpay on storage too

[woeful solar]

But you really won't see a difference

Yuurr

Especially when it does literally nothing lol

[shut brook]

yeah, which is technically true for the other things im overpaying for, but oh well, life goes on

if my entire life hinges on a few hundred bucks, im screwed anyway

[woeful solar]

Eh

Mobo premiums if you aren't overclocking I guess

[shut brook]

my case is a bit expensive, I overpaid msrp on my gpu and my motherboard will probably be one tier too high

[stone tangle]

To clarify mine's on the slower end of PCIe 3. Rated speed is 1900 compared to PCIe 3's max speed of 3600. Though honestly after playing some games it doesn't seem all that different.

But I'm surprised they went so cheap on the storage when they went the extra mile getting DDR5 RAM

[minor sun]

Ddr5 platforms are ddr5 only, can't use ddr4 on ddr5 platforms

[stone tangle]

This is an Intel motherboard that has a DDR4 version and a DDR5 version. Both support the same CPU.

[minor sun]

Each motherboard is only compatible with each version, and the motherboards are generally at the same prices now, along with ddr5 prices being pretty good too

[brisk dome]

If you haven't ordered already, this is just as good and a bit cheaper

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/Q7kH99/klevv-cras-c910-2-tb-m2-2280-pcie-40-x4-nvme-solid-state-drive-k02tbm2sp0-c91

[shut brook]

yeah too late 😄

[stone tangle]

So my new PC has a second M.2 slot, but it doesn't have the screw. For some reason my M.2 to USB-A adapter that I was using for my second drive has started running incredibly slow ever since I plugged it into the new PC (on my old PC it was running well, but here its read/write is being shown as ~160/200 MB/s), so I wanted to take it out of the adapter and just put it directly in the M.2 slot on the motherboard. What size screw normally goes in an M.2 slot?

I have a bag of leftover screws from my old PC, so I might have an M.2 screw stashed away in there. Just not sure what to look for.

[stone tangle]

Could I theoretically just tape the SSD down using T-Rex tape? Main reason I see people say not to use tape is that it would melt under certain temperatures, but T-Rex tape is very heat resistant.

Since nobody is trying to stop me, I'm gonna do it.

[stone tangle]

So it seemed like it was working but when I tried to play a game the entire PC restarted. Specifically I was in-game and this happened while it was loading a level. Don't know if it has anything to do with me taping down the SSD or not because this game always gives me problems (Sackboy)

After just letting it hang my PC is no longer randomly restarting itself. Conclusion: T-Rex tape bad.

[brisk dome]

The smallest one

And yes you can tape the ssd down if you want. A screw is ideal though

[stone tangle]

Like I said I tried the tape but it seemed to cause my PC to restart. Made a shock noise when it happened. Must have taped over something I wasn't supposed to, but I don't have enough room to try and get it right. The M.2 slot is in a tight spot and I can't control my hands very well. I'll just let it hang until I can get my hands on a screw. It's working so far. I looked up pictures of the appropriate screw and I don't seem to have a spare lying around.

[blazing musk]

Electrical tape is best because other kinds of tape can be conductive and cause a short circuit

Any kind of duct tape in particular can be laced with metals

[quiet gust]

where is this sata to sas adapter meant to be used? are there motherboard or sas adapters that allow to use sas protocol via sata connector?

[sinful salmon]

Something something you can connect SAS drive to SATA but not the other way around

[blazing musk]

SAS is just 2 SATA ports running in parallel

[cloud kiln]

Technically the opposite
a SAS backplane can connect both SAS and SATA drives
But you can't connect SAS drives with a SATA backplane

[sinful salmon]

damn, dejected

[cloud kiln]

also honestly this just looks like a regular sata + sata power combination connector that you would sometimes see on some older prebuilts

[thorny hull]

I need advice on how I could expand my storage. Right now i have a m.2 and 2tb hdd installed and both nearly full capacity. I can't install an m.2 expansion card nor more sata connectors since theyr both blocked off by the GPU

my current pc specs

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/vQCnwY

[dense merlin]

you could replace the existing m.2

or replace the hdd with something bigger

or an external nvme enclosure

[thorny hull]

how would i connect it, through usb?

[dense merlin]

yeah

[thorny hull]

something like this should be fine?

https://www.newegg.com/p/0VN-00D8-00056

[dense merlin]

idk, i bought a cheap enclosure from orico off newegg and it didnt work

[brisk dome]

Honestly I'd probably swap the m.2 for a bigger one

Those are some unfortunate SATA connecter locations lol

[brave needle]

How do I pick good storage

Im trying to get a 1tb m.2 for a pc im building but idk what to pick

https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/list/Hsdhkf

this is the part list as of now if that matters

[blazing musk]

The NV3 is ok for a budget drive on a gaming machine

[brave needle]

I ended up talking with Bacca about it in cases and psu

I went with the G50 bc Bacca was saying the NV3 lifespan is worse, and id rather pay a bit more to have it last longer

Last thing to figure out is a case, think im prob gonna buy one off of marketplace

but thanks for answering anyways

[dense merlin]

I was talking about the nv2, idk about the nv3

[blazing musk]

NV3 1TB is 320 TBW

Ok for the price

It's also lower power and heat, and doesn't have the hardware change problem of the NV2

To put things into perspective, I have an ultra budget SATA SSD that is being used as a game drive for the last 5 years, and it still reports 99% drive life.

[brave needle]

Interesting, only time ive ever felt a slowdown on my pc storage is on a harddrive, also on a sata ssd but its nearly full so I think that might be the reason

[blazing musk]

Yes filling up a drive does affect the speed

50% is where it starts to slow down

90% some drives feel unusable

Generally speaking, some are better than others at this metric

[brave needle]

the one thats full is the boot drive which is kinda an issue, have felt that booting up has been slower

I deleted some stuff but its still pretty full, used a windows clean up tool too but it didnt get rid of much

[blazing musk]

There's a debloat tool pinned in #windows-ios that will remove unnecessary apps and such

Default mode works for a gaming PC

[shut brook]

Anyone have a recommendation for a regular SSD that's large capacity 4tb+ to use as a backup/storage for media like pictures/video?

[formal tusk]

Ud90 iirc is the cheap one rn

[shut brook]

ok dang those are more than i was expecting lmao, for some reason i thought the sata drives would be cheaper now

[dense merlin]

Prob this atm
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/XX88TW/western-digital-wd-blue-sn5000-4-tb-m2-2280-pcie-40-x4-nvme-solid-state-drive-wds400t4b0e

$3 more than a ud90

[shut brook]

I could probably make some more space on my existing backup drives if I actually went through all my photos and got rid of duplicates/old/bad ones, but its like 10,000 or more photos, it would be so boring

[blazing musk]

I'd just get a HDD if it's only going to be a backup/storage

[shut brook]

I could get another external one, I dropped my last one about 2 feet onto carpet and it bricked the drive 💀

I need to be more diligent about doing backups of stuff, or Im gonna pay the price one day

can get a 5-6tb for $100 less than one of the SSD's, not bad

10tb for $190 is pretty solid

but thats overkill, im only at about 2tb right now for my full backups

[vast marsh]

Hello i just received an HDD and it is making a noise. Is this normal?

https://www.reddit.com/r/PcBuildHelp/s/oCkkCPBv78

Seagate barracuda

[fallow herald]

what kind of noise?

[vast marsh]

look at the reddit link

https://www.reddit.com/r/PcBuildHelp/s/oCkkCPBv78

[fallow herald]

parental controls, man😭

if it's making a scratching sound, or a constant whine, then something's wrong

[cloud kiln]

that doesnt sound like a normal sound considering how it keeps doing it once every like second

it keeps making a single clicking sound every like second

https://www.rxddit.com/r/PcBuildHelp/comments/1joebj5/pc_making_new_noise_since_since_i_installed_a here i'll embed it

[fallow herald]

my best guess is a head crash or motor failure within the drive

but i don't really know that much about hdds

[rough lantern]

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0BHJF2VRN?tag=pcpapi-20&linkCode=ogi&th=1
How does this SSD look? Looking for a good budget SSD preferably 1TD or more

[dense merlin]

$100 for 1tb is gross

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/JFjRsY/western-digital-wd-blue-sn5000-1-tb-m2-2280-pcie-40-x4-nvme-solid-state-drive-wds100t4b0e

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/hsqrxr/seagate-firecuda-530r-wheatsink-1-tb-m2-2280-pcie-40-x4-nvme-solid-state-drive-zp1000gm3a073

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/hrLdnQ/teamgroup-t-force-g50-2-tb-m2-2280-pcie-40-x4-nvme-solid-state-drive-tm8ffe002t0c129

[brisk dome]

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/99RwrH/klevv-cras-c910-1-tb-m2-2280-pcie-40-x4-nvme-solid-state-drive-k01tbm2sp0-c91

[rich wadi]

ive popped in here a few times trying to figure out what was wrong with my ssd (p3 plus) and i think the one i got is just bum, it freezes up when extracting large files and freezes after playing lethal company with friends after like 20 or so minutes, i believe its got to be something with the cache

regardless im peeved

i hope its still covered under a warranty lol

[rich wadi]

Downloaded the drivers that apparently exist for it and gonna test if that fixes anything

Could be thermal throttling too, but not sure

Bent down and touched the heatsink while putting it under load and jesus yeah its hot

[brisk dome]

hwinfo or similar will show drive temps, if firmware doesn't fix the issue

Here's my DIY cooling solution for an oem drive that was getting a little too toasty on the controller

[rich wadi]

Turns out the drivers fixed everything LMAO

Although im sure better heat management could help

[uneven yacht]

which one do u suggest (all of them are almost same price)

[blazing musk]

P3 Plus

[uneven yacht]

which one

there's 2 in the pics

[blazing musk]

They look the same to me

Probably just different sellers

[uneven yacht]

nand nvme and the other is PCLE

i dont even know whats nand

[blazing musk]

NAND is a type of memory

PCIe is the interface

[uneven yacht]

oh

alright thanks mate

[sharp folio]

What's the difference between this and the UD90?

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/2BvD4D/silicon-power-ud90-4-tb-m2-2280-pcie-40-x4-nvme-solid-state-drive-sp04kgbp44ud9005

Finally looking at a 4TB

[dense merlin]

I think the g50 is a bit better for $5 more
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/QqdMnQ/teamgroup-t-force-g50-4-tb-m2-2280-pcie-40-x4-nvme-solid-state-drive-tm8ffe004t0c129

[sharp folio]

A bit better as in speeds?

[sharp folio]

What about the P41?

Assuming there's a 4 TB version
Apparently not

[formal tusk]

The old solidigm one was good

The plat is also good

The price of both however

Lately huge pass

Not justifiable within their means at all

[sharp folio]

Do you have any opinions on a specific 4 TB with good speed?

I see from Amazon that the SN850X and UD90 can be here today

I see the UD90 is fairly slow though lol

[formal tusk]

The cheapest 4tb nvme is usually the best

In which case yes I'm gonna say the ud90

Cos the kicker is "5000MBps" actually doesn't mean anything in real world use

All these ssds with their "up to X MBps" is just marketing

They all do that for like 10 seconds then throttle to nothing

The real speed is in rand read

[sharp folio]

It wouldn't just be for games, I do a decent amount of programming too and a lot of patching and compiling would benefit from high r/w

[formal tusk]

You'd have to be doing like huge gigabytes of files at a pretty constant rate to even remotely still justify that

The only real benefactor of higher speed nvme is 4k/8k/16k edit scrubbing

Not even most servers need speeds like gen 5 for example

[sharp folio]

I mean the one can take an hour plus if you put it on an HDD, and even on an SSD it can take 20+ minutes

It takes ten minutes for GitHub to run the build ci

[formal tusk]

If you have a gen 4 nvme then a 2gb file will save in under 15 seconds if the pc is set up correctly

It just isn't that big of an issue

Well optimised system will be the bigger bottleneck there cos windows limits iops speeds well under what even gen 3 ssds can do

Once you get to gen 3 the majority of things you do will not be tied down

Turns into like those gpu tests where you change pcie spec

And you see maybe 1% improvement for more money

I'm not saying 0% btw lemme be clear

Just saying the expectation of better is mostly redundant at best unless you were using the pc like, 40 hours a day, making a career out of it type of situation

Where an extra 5 seconds per file means an extra job at the end of the day

[sharp folio]

What do you mean by set up correctly?

[formal tusk]

Not bloated, SSD's aren't throttling, pc doesn't have many background tasks unnecessarily open

[sharp folio]

Can't fix the first one when you're using Windows

[formal tusk]

General streamlining and care

[formal tusk]

Worst case scenario you can take slow boot times from 5 minutes down to 7 seconds

Like ok windows is bad but debloat scripts do a lot

And exist for this reason

[sharp folio]

How are the 990 Pro and SN850X in terms of the firmware problems they were having?

[formal tusk]

Not even remotely worth buying why

Look here is a list

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1B27_j9NDPU3cNlj2HKcrfpJKHkOf-Oi1DbuuQva2gT4/htmlview

Buy anything in the "mid tier or better and go as cheap as physically possible

Avoiding any "lottery parts" choices like kingston nv

[sharp folio]

Yeah, I've been avoiding those

[formal tusk]

Beyond mid tier you're not gonna know the difference

It just won't be noticeable enough

[sharp folio]

What's the difference between the MP44 and MP44Q? Just speed?

[formal tusk]

One is dramless iirc

[sharp folio]

They both show SLC cache on Amazon

[formal tusk]

Dram on drive would help you if you want a bit better data integrity

[minor sun]

One is qlc one is not iirc

[formal tusk]

Oh right

One is decent qlc the other just tlc

[minor sun]

Check the SSD list for specific components

[minor sun]

Basically everything uses a pSLC cache now, dram cache is a different thing

pSLC is just having a section of the SSD act like SLC and act like a read/write cache

[sharp folio]

Looks like the MP44Q maybe has it? For some reason I'm getting comments from the MP34 on the MP44 lol, but not in the description

[formal tusk]

Ye

Mp44q is slc cache

[sharp folio]

I mean QLC

MP44Q has Outstanding Performance Exceeding 7,000MB/s Transmission Speed.Effortless Storage Expansion with 3D QLC NAND

[minor sun]

Dram is having a separate dram chip on the SSD that can keep metadata
HMB does not have anything on the SSD, but uses system dram

[formal tusk]

The list will say if it has qlc

[sharp folio]

oh

yeah

[minor sun]

Very useful sheet

[sharp folio]

990 Evo Plus seems to be all that's left in mid-range lol

Doesn't PCPP have a compare button or something?

found it, nvm

[brave needle]

Am I pushing down on the m.2?

I feel like I am even tho I barely screwed it down

or is this fine

[minor sun]

This is fine

[brave needle]

Thanks

[median yarrow]

This is fine or this is fine 🔥?

https://tenor.com/view/this-is-fine-gif-24177057

[quiet gust]

i recently swapped the thiccpad r40 ide hdd for an ssd. I had saved an image of the windows xp hdd (using macrium) and then restored it to the ssd, but the laptop doesn't boot, it instead shows the blinking cursor. Just to confirm the adapter worked I did a fresh install and that one works fine. So I assume that the image didn't contain the mbr stuff or pheraps it did, but it doesn't work on a different drive?

maybe rebuild / repair mbr would work?

I didn't clone because I wanted to first install various OSs on the laptop then restore each image to different partitions of the ssd to multi boot. (not sure if it is possible with cloning too)

[vast garnet]

halp

I need to use a disk cloner for the first time in a couple years to copy a smaller disk to a new larger one

I'm on win 10

iirc I need to format the new one first, yeah? Then just clone it and expand the partition later?

I think I recall last time I didn't format it first and it was the wrong table or something

I think I need to make sure it's NTFS

Does that sound right?

What I can't remember is if I need to create a new simple volume after initializing or if that will muck it up

[shut furnace]

I thought most cloners do their own formatting

[loud estuary]

Heya, looking for a solid 2tb mid-high range NVMe, but I haven't been keeping up for a while. Are there any go-to recommendations these days? Considering a Crucial T700 for ~$160. It'll be my new boot drive, probably going for PCIE 5.0

[minor sun]

would not really recommend getting 5.0 drives for most use cases, not gonna get any real benefits, but T700, MP700 Pro, and Z540 are the 3 cheapest good 5.0 drives rn
cheapest good 4.0 drives rn looks to be xg7000 pro and gm7000, those will do 95% of what a gen 5 drive will do for you in real world performance, unless you have very specific tasks that might be able to make use of the higher peak performance

[brisk dome]

Yeah a solid 4.0 drive will be closer to $100/2tb and there will be no noticeable difference save for scrubbing through raw 4k/8k footage

[turbid crater]

Can a nvme pcie hurt a pc? For any heat from nvmes

[brisk dome]

No

[minor sun]

What exactly are you asking about, using a m.2 pcie card?

[rough lantern]

anyone know of a good 2TB storage to buy from rn?

[brisk dome]

Klevv Cras c910

[acoustic nest]

What are y'all thoughts on external HBAs

[feral field]

if I have b550 m pro 4 motherboard and I want to add a new 2 tb ssd, which one should I get?

[brisk dome]

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/Q7kH99/klevv-cras-c910-2-tb-m2-2280-pcie-40-x4-nvme-solid-state-drive-k02tbm2sp0-c91

[cloud kiln]

this is technically in a way used by high performance SANs
you'll have like a 2u controller, and then it connects to a bunch of like 4u enclosures that just has a bunch of drives that aggregates it into a SAS/QSFP cable
(image from here)

[acoustic nest]

My idea is to get something like this
https://a.aliexpress.com/_oDizsYe
And then hook it up to my nas via the hba

Although I don't know how many drives a consumer skylake system can handle

The thing that's nice about these aliexpress chassis is that it's a nice form factor

Since I don't really need a whole pc (just the psu and the drives

So I can just run a SF-8643 cable to my skylake nas

[acoustic nest]

Damn

I'd have to shell out $500 at least

Half on hardware and the other half on drives

Guess that's a "revisit in 5 years" scenario

[velvet quail]

if I have b550 m pro 4 motherboard and I want to add a new 2 tb ssd, which one should I get?

i plan to put it under the m.2 armor heat sync to be my main ssd

[magic shore]

Looking for a 1TB ssd sata3 drive to upgrade my old pc.
Any good sale and recommendations?

[shut furnace]

I think I've seen some slightly cheaper but yeah. btw are you not using sata for drives or you just run out of mobo ports

[acoustic nest]

Ran out of space

It's a SFF

Psu also doesn't have enough power connectors

[shut furnace]

ah got it

I was looking at some of those boards before. there are some for cheaper like 20-30usd but idk how good they are

[quiet gust]

such a thicc ide hdd

why is it recognized as a 1.6TB drive

[fallow herald]

Scam

[jolly schooner]

Would it be worth exchanging my 990 evo plus for a t500 for the dram? I recently bought the 990 and saw the t500 price dropped. I mainly just use it as a 2nd drive for gaming but I plan to start editing videos on it

[worn trail]

How much would this exchange cost you?

I assume you'd be exchanging the 990 EVO PLUS along with some currency?

[jolly schooner]

Noting, I’d just have to redownload my games tho

[worn trail]

Honestly I'd say go for it then.

It'd a be a increase in performance with no extra cost.

@jolly schooner

[brisk dome]

Nvme ssds like the 990 have HMB and thus dram doesn't matter as much

But if you can swap for the same price maybe it's worth

[quiet gust]

will a 2m ide cable work on a regular old pc?

[silent pendant]

ive picked up a Lacie hdd would that work fine for storing game saves an my roms?

[fallow herald]

I would avoid HDDs unless you have specific needs that can't be met with SSDs. for game saves, I'd get 2 NVMe drives-- 1 for windows, and one for game save files.

however, if you need slower-but-higher-density storage, HDDs can be a legitimate consideration. this also applies if you need extremely-long-term data storage/archiving(>20y).

If you'd like, I or another person can give you recommendations based on your needs/budget :)

[sharp hamlet]

hey yall, is there any way to test my reading and writing speeds for my ssd

[torpid adder]

ain't know way one huyman can read or write as fast as an ssd

https://tenor.com/view/no-way-skeleton-bruh-gif-26457034

[sharp hamlet]

i wanna test the speed of my ssd 😭

[torpid adder]

just get some crystaldiskmark :3

[sharp hamlet]

what the helly is that

oh nvm

thank you

are these good stats?

[minor sun]

Depends on what the drive is supposed to be rated for

[red jay]

Whyy

[hard moss]

would the sk hynix p41 be a good buy rn? I heard it had an issue

if not what are some reliable alternatives

[minor sun]

It's still a good drive, there is a new firmware out that mostly fixes the problem

But there are a lot of good alternatives with e18

[narrow sorrel]

@sullen oxide https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/u/0/d/1B27_j9NDPU3cNlj2HKcrfpJKHkOf-Oi1DbuuQva2gT4/htmlview#

From ZTT

[sullen oxide]

I should pin?

[narrow sorrel]

I think it is good

[sullen oxide]

Give a brief description instead of my tag

I will pin

[narrow sorrel]

SSD Spreadsheet from NewMaxx:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/u/0/d/1B27_j9NDPU3cNlj2HKcrfpJKHkOf-Oi1DbuuQva2gT4/htmlview#

[minor sun]

uh that's not a ssd tier list and that's not from ZTT either, that's from NewMaxx, you can tell by the bottom where it links to his website

it's a good sheet though

also could've sworn that was pinned before

[narrow sorrel]

My B, I've never actually gone down there so I just thought it was something ZTT put together. Fixed the pin content

I thought it was pinned too, but apparently only SPL's PSU tier list was pinned

[minor sun]

I mean I've been using that for years now lol

[narrow sorrel]

Though should the pin be the html view or the actual spreadsheet.

Actual spreadsheet redirects to the google apps iirc on mobile, but for desktop the spreadsheet provides access to filters

[loud estuary]

It was definitely pinned a few years ago :)

[sullen oxide]

We went through a lot of the pins a few months ago

Accidental unpins

[placid portal]

Will usb 3.0 external hdd work on usb 2.0

[minor sun]

Yes, it'll just transfer at the lower 2.0 speeds

[cloud kiln]

Usb is fully backwards and forwards compatible (in theory) but it will run at the slowest components speed

[rich crescent]

Any clue why my pc decided to start booting from my hdd instead of my nvme?
Asus x870-a
Ryzen 7 9800x3d
Samsung pro 1 TB (normally my boot drive and only used for boot)
Samsung pro 2TB (games storage)
Seagate 4TB (bulk like pics and videos)

I dont remember even loading windows on to the HDD. So that's weird. But when I go into file explorer it shows my 1TB nvme as my windows boot drive. But bios shows the hdd. So confused.

[torpid adder]

Is your cmos battery on its way out

[rich crescent]

Shouldn't be. Its a less then 1 year old board.

Just noticed a folder in my hdd called "windows apps" I tried to move it to the correct drive (the 1TB boot drive) and files were moved but won't allow me to delete it from the HDD.

[rich crescent]

Pic of bios showing the HDD as my boot drive

Pic showing that bios recognizes i have the 2 nvme drives.

Pic showing pc recognizing the 1TB nvme as the boot drive.

Am I just dumb and missing something here?

[torpid adder]

I mean it is NAMED boot drive

my c drive is unnamed lol

[rich crescent]

Yeah I named them all. But does the windows symbol not signify it being the windows boot drive? But also still doesnt make sense why/how it's using my HDD and not the 1TB nvme it was using.

[torpid adder]

if it's set in the bios to boot into the second drive, it will

or into a flash drive, CD, etc.

[rich crescent]

When I built it I only installed windows on the 1tb nvme C drive

In the bios it won't give me the option to switch from the HDD to the nvme.

Like I stated in the pics it shows the nvme are recognized but won't show them as a bootable drive in the boot menu.

[worn trail]

Does anyone know of a Add In Card or switch I can use in order to have two different SSDs with Windows OS on them but setup so that when I use one it does not power on the other?

The goal is to be able to switch between an Overclocking and Daily Windows drive quickly without needing to change boot order or remove the other drive to switch OS.

[ripe sandal]

Hey guys did IDE hard drives always sound like someone was using an electric toothbrush from the next room over or is that a sign of failing? Running a system restore on a 20 year old dell dimension but am wondering if I should just gut it and get an old SATA windows xp era mobo so I can get a new hdd.

[minor sun]

Steady kind of droning sound is usually normal, clicking is bad

But in general having a sata SSD is a better option lol

[ripe sandal]

Yeah and the mobo it came with is terrible, it only has PCI non-express slots so finding a gpu would be a nightmare as well.

[cloud kiln]

You can also get SATA to PATA adapters

[cloud kiln]

And technically speaking, PCIe is backwards compatible with pci

But the software might not support a modern GPU

But with a PCIe to PCI adapter, you can put a 5090 on a PCI slot

[torpid adder]

Sounds like a fun time

[turbid crater]

Does external hdd have faster transfer speeds than portable hdd. Im looking into 14 tb wd external drive for 170 on amazon prime day sale

[real lava]

no

any hdds are slow

[torpid adder]

I don't even see what the question is asking

External hard drive and portable hard drive are synonymous

[uneven yacht]

guys i got an error with my external Hard Drive "the requst failed due to a fatal device hardware error" when i try to initialize it cuz i couldnt find it along with my other drives and ive tried the wmic diskdrive and updating my drive but couldnt find any (UnionSine HD2510 External Hard Drive)

[quiet gust]

uuh

[quiet gust]

the drive might have failed

could be physical damage

try running diskpart and listing the drives

you could locate the drive in device manager, uninstall it and then plug it back in

also try a different cable or pull out the hdd from the enclosure if you can

[floral stratus]

Is teamgroup mp33 a decent hard drive

[brisk dome]

It's an SSD not a hard drive but yeah they're decent

[floral stratus]

Yeah, you know what I mean

[minor sun]

It's a cheap relatively very slow SSD that works when it's very cheap, but often out classed by other options at the same price

[floral stratus]

What are other decent options?

Mp33 is about $55 on Amazon and would be used in a laptop to install games on it

[minor sun]

C910 for example is at a very similar price
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0CBSSC21F

[vital jay]

are 990 pros still suffering from that faliure thing? whats a comparable drive to it

sn850x?

[floral stratus]

I've read some negative reviews about quality and temps

[vital jay]

yeah but there was a fast degredation issue with them a couple years ago

[floral stratus]

Ended up buying TG G50

Apparently I bought one of those a year ago and had no issues with it

[vital jay]

apparently?

yeah it seems decent

im just looking for a reliable 2tb boot drive]

preferably with dram

[floral stratus]

I forgot I bought one before

Amazon reminded me

[vital jay]

ah

[brisk dome]

Dram doesn't matter too much on nvme drives due to HMB

[vital jay]

Doesnt it help significantly with random reads and writes tho

[minor sun]

It helps sometimes, not significantly

It's way more dependent on the drive itself, for example, P41 plus is dramless and uses HMB, P5 Plus uses dram

[worn trail]

SN850X is faster than the 990 Evo Plus and faster than the 980 Pro.

[vital jay]

Really?

Dannng

[worn trail]

I own the 4TB SN850X.

[vital jay]

Is it dramless

[worn trail]

Also the Samsung drive problems can be easily fixed by updating firmware.

[vital jay]

So i guess that narrows it down to 850x or mp7000

[worn trail]

Has dram.

[vital jay]

I was reading a lot of of reddit forums and they all said it didn't work and it still had failures

From a few months ago

[worn trail]

Likely didn't update the firmware. I have a 980 SSD, updated the firmware and two years later no issues.

Anyways, I highly recommend the SN850X.

[vital jay]

Do you run it as a boot drive?

[worn trail]

Work drive, having it as a boot drive is way overkill lmao

Hence why I bought the 4TB SN850X.

[vital jay]

Fair enough, its pcei 4 not 5 right

[worn trail]

Correct.

[uneven yacht]

what do you guys suggest for an external Hdd from amazon?

[summer lava]

Good afternoon. My name is Ed, I’m new to the form. I seek information regarding a Bluetooth extender. I have a camera surveillance system with a recorder that will be in a closet about two walls away from where I will be using a wireless mouse to control the screens and cameras.I seek a device that will enhance that Bluetooth signal to get it through the walls. Any help would certainly be appreciated.

[fallow herald]

Wrong channel bet ig ur looking for a signal repeater? U won't need it tho, Bluetooth goes through walls

[cloud kiln]

Unless they're European with concrete walls that barely even let wifi through at all

Let alone the weak sauce Bluetooth

[real lava]

concrete walls better

[torpid adder]

the true firewall

[serene laurel]

Any current recommendations for a reliable 256 or 512 gb m.2 ssd?

[minor sun]

Is there a price constraint? Usually you'd just get 1tb

And what are you planning to do with it?

[torpid adder]

wish I could still get like 64gb drives

but I guess using a 256gb one for truenas is fine :p

[serene laurel]

It’s for a friend. He’s looking for an m.2 SSD and enclosure as external storage for his MacBook. He said he only needed 256 but that’s probably not the best deal now that I think about it

[torpid adder]

you'd have to go used to get a good price on small cap storage

[minor sun]

macbooks don't always play happy with standard m.2 drives so you might want to be careful there

And if they're doing external, with such a small drive, it'll prob be cheaper to straight up buy an external 512gb/1tb ssd rather than 512gb/1tb plus an enclosure

cheap decent enough 512gb drive
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B09SH2M3MM

[serene laurel]

He is looking at external yes

[buoyant topaz]

Hello i was wondering if someone help me find a Hard drive for a HP Notebook - 15-db0043nr. I already contacted HP, and they told me that i can use a 2tb, 5400 rpm, 1tb 5400rpm, or a 500 gb 5400rpm. All have to be 7mm to fit. I feel like they will try to sell me a hp part, but i wanted to see if i can use any brand so long it fits in the laptop. Please and thank you 🙂

[fallow herald]

My mom might like to get a 1tb drive for windows/ some games. Nothing huge, stuff like portal.

Is Kingston nv3 good?

[real lava]

good enough

[cloud kiln]

Any 2.5" sata hdd

But ideally a 2.5" sata ssd

Assuming you don't have any m.2 slots for storage

[torpid adder]

Micron 1100 is a good drive to get used

250gb, 500gb, or 1tb

is there a 2tb 1100?

I forget

it's the model I got 6 drives of, it has DRAM cache which is necessary for sata ssds to have good consistent performance

all the sata models being sold as new are way overpriced compared to NVMe storage, so it's just not worth it

[buoyant topaz]

Nope it's a 2017 laptop. Also I already opened it up and no m.2 slots. It does have the ability to add a second storage with a cable attachment.

[torpid adder]

send picture of said cable attachment

[cloud kiln]

firewire

[torpid adder]

Is FireWirw used that late lmao

[buoyant topaz]

I think this is the cable I need to add a second drive

[brisk dome]

Yeah that's SATA, a 2.5" SATA SSD would work

[buoyant topaz]

thank you 🙂

[sharp folio]

What is the maximum R/W I can expect from two Xeon Gold 6122s? The CPUs and board only support up to PCIe 3.0.

[minor sun]

are you trying to just maximize r/w with raid 0 or

singular 3.0x4 drives usually do about 3500/3000

[sharp folio]

Just two single 3.0x4

[minor sun]

theoretically max of like 7000/6000 if you raid 0 them but meh

just use them as singular drives and chill with the normal 3.0x4 speeds, I still feel like raid 0 is too risky for normal use

one drive fail and you lose basically everything

[sharp folio]

Maybe I should get one of the SSD expansion cards lol

It'll have a Minecraft server or two, and a couple of WS probably

[sharp folio]

If RAID is worth doing at least

Could do backups to a HDD

[sharp folio]

Or just find good PCIe 3.0 drives

[quiet gust]

I have a 1 TB HDD with data I can’t identify.
It has a small 5 GB partition (empty) and the rest is a full FAT32 partition.
That partition contains 926 folders named in sequence (dir00000, dir00001, …).
Each folder has 128 files (file0000.dat, file0001.dat, …), all exactly 8192 KiB (8 MB) each.
At the root there’s an ident.bin (contains just ok1ormated) and an index.bin (filled with repeating X and U chars).
Opening the .dat files in Notepad shows mostly gibberish, but a few have readable fragments

• all the files in the hdd have been created in just some hours

[quiet gust]

the folder structure and the files reminds me of camera footage or dvr saves.
might be some surveillance footage.

[neat crescent]

Just bought some sandisk ultra pen drives

[cloud kiln]

https://www.amazon.ca/Crucial-T700-Gen5-NVMe-heatsink/dp/B0C3K2WRPV is this worth the sale

there's only one left in stock so if somebody can answer before it goes out of stock that would be nice

actually

nvm i wouldnt even need gen 5

anybody have any recommendations for gen 4 or even gen 3 drives with or without a heatsink (and if it's without one, what one i should get since my mobo doesnt have a ssd heatspreader and is only gen 3)

[cloud kiln]

don't need the reccs anymore

got a p41 plat

[minor sun]

Fun

[minor sun]

Just update firmware when you get it

[cloud kiln]

alright

[neat crescent]

Should I actually buy a NAS?

I have 10TBs and I'm close to running out of storage

[fringe mesa]

I was checking out nvmes and wondering after 2 years what is better than the SK Hynix platinum now a days. Im not trusting reviews because I noticed one said GBPS, yet another same nvme marked it as mbps.

[minor sun]

You can trust Tom's hardware reviews

[fringe mesa]

Getting same results. Gbps then mbps. Miss the old reliable comparison charts.

[minor sun]

On what part

[fringe mesa]

On the bright side, saw they now have a Steam Deck dock that that stores an nvme up to 4tb. Not bad since it was limited to 1tb when the steam deck first came out. I made an nvme cartridge base to swap between portable drives.

I want to replace all my nvme on my game server thats been running 24/7 for 3 years now.

[fringe mesa]

It was a review on Crucial. Funny thing is, sale says $259 but actually $159 for a 2tb.

[minor sun]

Which exact page and on which chart?

[fringe mesa]

I'll get link. No comparison chart. Comparison charts, least 2025 rare breed.

https://www.tomshardware.com/pc-components/ssds/the-fastest-consumer-pcie-5-0-2tb-ssd-drops-to-just-usd239-crucial-t705-costs-just-12-cents-per-gb-of-blazing-fast-storage

[minor sun]

That's not a review lol

[fringe mesa]

Oooops

[minor sun]

This is their T705 review for reference
https://www.tomshardware.com/pc-components/ssds/crucial-t705-2tb-ssd-review

[worn trail]

Is anyone aware of a NVME Add In Card with a switch like a KVM switch existing?

The objective is to have two sets of drives, one set for daily and one for overclocking and the ability to switch to the other set and completely disconnect the other drives from the system to avoid corruption during OC sessions.

[mental plaza]

Yall think the predator GM7000 is fine as a boot drive? I have a 2tb model and scared of it getting too hot

i have a spare 1tb that I can use to store stuff, should i migrate my windows for safety?

[sharp folio]

What SSD should I grab for my server right now? I want at least 2TB, speeds higher than gen 3.0 aren't useful, but higher speed drives are fine since chances are that they're cheaper.

[sharp folio]

P310 looks like a good price

[shut furnace]

if it does it is a very niche product. most avoid any kind of switching related to storage because it can cause corruption from sudden disk dismounts

[brisk dome]

Temporary setup till the bigger heatsink and mini fan arrive

[small carbon]

Prolonged highspeed writes are mainly what heat up an ssd, so just being an OS drive should be no concern.

[sonic bluff]

I had a few spare NVMEs laying around, 2 1tb ones unknown gen, probably 3, that I scavenged form old laptops and a single gen 4 2tb wd black.

I was wondering if I could somehow dualboot a rarely used system that i have laying around with a NAS os of some sort and essentially have a raid 0 local backup NAS.
The system has a b550 taichi, Ryzen 9 3900x, 32gb 3200 ddr4, rtx 2070 super(used to be my primary gaming rig, now is used maybe once a week), a 256gb boot nvme, 1tb storage nvme and 2tb Seagate hdd already in there. I don't want the nas os to touch the 2 NVMEs and the HDD already in there.  The 3 drives mentioned (2 1tbs and 1 2tb) are separate and not yet added.

How realistic is this/is it possible?

[worn trail]

In this case the switching would be done when the PC is powered down if that makes a difference.

[proud vessel]

so I'm not sure where exactly to put this so I'll slap it here and here goes:

Has anyone on Windows 11 had any rebooting issues with an Adata Legend 800 Gold m.2?

[dusty thorn]

what's the current favored NAS to use? some diskless synology?

[cloud kiln]

I'm not sure if there's any nvme ones but I do know there are sata ones

Your better bet is just to use a bootloader to select which to boot from though

And make backups

[worn trail]

Not ideal but what I have been doing is keeping all my work, game, and other files that I don't want to risk corruption on a separate drive from the boot drive so whenever windows decides to freak out I can do a fresh install on the boot drive.

[cloud kiln]

Well no matter what you do, even if you never touch overclocking, having at least a single backup copy off your PC is a good idea

Whether it's a Nas or just a removable SSD/HDD

[worn trail]

I assume there is a simple way to have a large SSD make a backup of every drive every x amount of time?

[cloud kiln]

Yeah

There are free backup software or you can make a script to backup and version your files as well

And delete old backups

[regal dove]

is the P510 a good ssd

or p310

well

P510

mainly

[brisk dome]

https://www.tomshardware.com/pc-components/ssds/the-crucial-p510-2tb-ssd-review

[soft ravine]

Are the Asrock Blazing M.2 Heat Sinks good?

[sand tartan]

Guys what type of 2.5 inch 1TB ssd do I look for that can run 24/7 & can move 100GB of files at once without slowing down like crazy?

[minor sun]

What's your budget like?

It'll either be optane, or mlc with something like 860 pro, or just standard TLC with dram

[sand tartan]

I was trying to find something under $60 USD but I think that’s impossible for this

[minor sun]

yea just find something tlc with dram lol

[sand tartan]

Is a dram cache ssd with 3D NAND TLC the same as TLC with dram?

[minor sun]

ye?

[sand tartan]

Thanks

[minor sun]

870 evo is prob cheapest option rn

[dry root]

given the price, this is an almost ideal SSD - it definitely matters what kind of money you can sink in

like i paid $65 for an ASUS PRO LGA 1200 motherboard so I could rescue hardware from my HP shitbox to have a reasonably good PC

[regal dove]

Micron E100 4TB ? is it fine SSD

[worn trail]

Google says it doesn't have a 4TB variant.

Or do you mean Crucial E100?

Which maxed out at 2tb.

[limpid wharf]

Out of all of these, which is the best power bank and why

1. https://iniushop.com/products/iniu-p64-e1-power-bank-fastest-140w-compact-25000mah

2. https://www.anker.com/products/a1340-250w-power-bank?variant=43739694497942

3. https://www.anker.com/products/a1336-20000mah-power-bank?variant=42691854925974

[brisk dome]

Anker prime

Either of them, depending if you need the extra power or not

Oof $140 though

Only get that if you're planning to charge a laptop off of it. Otherwise get something cheaper

https://www.anker.com/products/a1229

https://www.anker.com/products/a1259-built-in-cable-power-bank-10000mah

[limpid wharf]

dont iphones have a max power usage of like 22.5 W or something?

[brisk dome]

Idk

[real lava]

newer ones use 25w or more

peaking at about 30w

[limpid wharf]

i have the 17 pro max and i want enoug for 2 or more charges

[brisk dome]

You'd be looking at watt hours then, not just watts

[real lava]

anker prime 27k would be the best one

if you can bear the price tag

[brisk dome]

$140 is wild to me, there's gotta be better options

[real lava]

ugreen should have something cheaper with similar capacity and capabilities

[brisk dome]

Or milliamp hours I guess, not exactly sure why people use them for capacity

[real lava]

it's because phones use milliamp hours

so power bank makers just stick with that

[brisk dome]

Right but milliamps is just current

You need a voltage to get the actual power

[real lava]

the amount is after current and voltage was calculated into milliamp hours

[brisk dome]

going with mAh, the 17 battery is only 3700. One on the cheaper Anker 10k packs should be able to do 2 charges

[real lava]

17 pro max has 5000

3700 is the base 17

[brisk dome]

Oop missed the pro max part

[real lava]

but honestly aiming for 15k packs should last 2 charges easily on a full charge

or even three, not accounting for losses in the charging process

[brisk dome]

Seconding UGreen for a slightly cheaper alternative

[real lava]

and i doubt our guy phil here will let his phone drop to 0% before charging

booting the phone up again is annoying haha

[brisk dome]

Way better for the battery to keep it between 20-80% anyways

[real lava]

there's a factual video that proved otherwise. there are still benefits but you're using the battery like it's already degraded, thus limiting the potential of the phone's battery

the difference in percentage is surprisingly smaller than i thought

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kLS5Cg_yNdM

the vid might seem irrelevant at first if you judge by the thumbnail, but give it time to watch

[brisk dome]

N=1 but I have been pretty religious about keeping my 13 pro battery between 20-80 and it is aging at about 50% the speed that apple claims (80% health after 400 cycles or whatever)

[real lava]

it's the cycles that wear a battery down, not the charging

but then again

deeper charging = more cycles

[brisk dome]

I'm not talking about fast vs slow charging at all

[real lava]

i'm sticking to the topic you brought up

the 20-80 charging rule wears the battery less since that's 0.6 cycle

[limpid wharf]

by more cycles hurting battery do you mean when you charge from 0 to 100?

[real lava]

0-100 is 1 full cycle

[limpid wharf]

i usually chage my phone at 80% 💀

[brisk dome]

Deeper charging isn't just more cycles, it puts more stress on the battery.

Draining a lithium ion battery near 0 or charging it towards 100 puts more strain on it than staying in the middle

It's part of how the ions move around or something

[limpid wharf]

but when i went on a road trip once my phone got to 20 or 40

whcih is why i am considering a power bank

[real lava]

batteries have a buffer though, they don't truly go 0 or 100

since it'll really wear em out

[brisk dome]

Yes true, but adding your own buffer helps too

[real lava]

that's certainly a fact

i wouldn't think too much about it though, but if you're happy with how you use your phone, there's no bad method

i'm just a heavy user, i have my phone on hotspot, so i tend to squeeze every bit out of my phone

i make sure to not let it drop below 20% most of the times if i can help it, but i do charge it up fully

[brisk dome]

Fair. I guess my point is, if you don't need the full 100% during the day, it's best to only charge to 80 or so and then top it off intermittently if needed/possible

[real lava]

that's valid

more so if you have a powerbank on hand

[real lava]

good way to preserve your battery life

but if you really need to use your phone's battery in a given day, feel free to

having a powerbank definitely extends your ability to use the phone and preserve its battery since you don't have to perform deep charging

[limpid wharf]

how much watts power bank do you recommend and total capacity i was thinking of like 20k capacity but watts idk

[real lava]

you're gonna wanna look at 30w for charging power

capacity, if you really need that many charges, 20k milliamp hours will do you nicely

[limpid wharf]

even if i buy the 200w chargers dont iphones automatically limit the power consumption to like 30w tho?

[real lava]

if you don't mind waiting to charge your phone up, anything lower than 30w of charging power is alright

yes

the phone only asks for what it supports

[limpid wharf]

stevejoe said anker prime is good but what you think abt iniu

[real lava]

iniu.. that's a name i haven't heard before

you definitely should take a look at ugreen though

[brisk dome]

Forget if I posted this already but here's my diy low profile ssd cooling solution

Crucial P5 Plus is in the back slot because that's the faster one but it wasn't getting nearly enough airflow (hit thermal throttle temp pretty quick under load)

$6 of AliExpress parts and now sits around 15-20C cooler under load

Was a bit worried that the blower fan would be noisy but it's not bad at all, blends in with the other fans in the system

[worn trail]

t

[fallow herald]

https://tenor.com/view/letter-t-glowing-letter-alphabet-gif-16563833

https://tenor.com/view/tsukuyomi-naruto-t-design-gif-23977721

[crimson brook]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/GzPPVW need another ssd, what could i get that’ll work?

[sullen oxide]

Could just get a cheap one off Mercari or eBay

[crimson brook]

could i just get the same ssd? would that work?

[sullen oxide]

Sure

[crimson fjord]

I have an odd question. Are there any m.2 ssds that are technically two ssds using one interface??? I want to run truenas on this laptop with a dead gpu but perfectly good and powerful cpu but its only got two nvme slots. The way truenas os uses one storage device entirely and cant be used for anything else is a huge bummer so I'm wondering if I can get around this with a really weird m.2 drive

[minor sun]

All you can try is some jank with pcie bifurcation to split the x4 lanes into 2 slots with x2 lanes using external adaptors/splitters, motherboards generally won't support it on the m.2 slot itself

[crimson fjord]

Yeah thats abt what I expected. Didn't wanna go that route since I dont wanna have the board or any components outside of the laptop chassis itself

[minor sun]

I'd imagine something like m.2 to pcie x4 to a separate board that splits it into 2 x2 m.2 slots lol

[crimson fjord]

Would a usb to 3.5 adapter be acceptable for running a low storage ssd?? I'd run it on a thumb drive but im pretty sure ive read somewhere that you shouldn't because they die quickly under truenas

[minor sun]

Depends on USB version tbh, also 3.5in is generally only hdds..?

[crimson fjord]

Mb I meant 2.5 not 3.5

[minor sun]

Some kind of external 2.5in USB to SATA enclosure should be fine as long as you have access to USB 3.0 or better

Ssds should be fine with just power from the USB slot

[crimson fjord]

Yeah its got good enough usb ports. Good to know though thanks

[hallow moat]

what’s the best 4 tb m2 ssd for gaming that’s not overpriced rn?

2 tb works too

[minor sun]

as the primary drive or just storage drive?

[hallow moat]

storage. i already have a primary drive that has windows on it

but maybe speed is good so it doesn’t hinder gaming performance

[minor sun]

Then it'd be fine to get a relatively cheaper qlc drive,
2tb option: https://sp-siliconpower.com/products/silicon-power-ud90-2tb-pcie-nvme-gen4x4-m-2-2280-internal-solid-state-drive
4tb option: https://www.newegg.com/kingspec-4tb-xg-7000-series/p/0D9-000D-00175

[hallow moat]

thanks

[dry root]

silicon power is pretty alright, at least in my experience/opinion

i've used a lot of them

i have like a team group SSD @ 1TB and... some other brand. i forget but I bought it intentionally

[brisk dome]

[limpid wharf]

On which storage device should i have my games on and programs like razer or google or others

SSD or HDD

[raven heart]

all on ssd if possible

otherwise put less demanding games and put programs on hdd

[dusty thorn]

Would this come empty, basically? I have to go find which m.2 cards i want to buy and add them to this? Not sure why it has bays if its diskless...
https://www.newegg.com/synology-ds725-2-bay-4gb-ddr4-amd-ryzen-r1600-processor-diskless-system/p/N82E16822108852?Item=N82E16822108852

trying to upgrade out of an old readyNAS 102 that I got for free and currently has a fake raid 1 setup (only 1 disk, and it's held up by a stack of folded paper).
wanted to really shell out for an upgrade so we can use it for storage without listening to the spinning disks crackle when watching media or accessing its storage.

[dry root]

also i just saw those prices and holy shit. 4TB for $229...

probably since i'm booting off an M.2 SSD the best thing is not to replace my 2TB SSD but rather get a 2.5" or some spinning rust

(I have only two M.2 2280 slots, the other is tiny and meant for wireless

[brisk dome]

Looks like it has 2 SATA bays (either 3.5" hdd or 2.5" ssd) and maybe 2 NVMe slots as well?

https://www.synology.com/en-us/products/DS725+

[solemn crane]

are disks better than ssd

capcity wise

[raven heart]

only in that they are cheaper

otherwise no

[solemn crane]

oh

[raven heart]

ssds are smaller and faster

[solemn crane]

well I just found this PC from like 2010

[raven heart]

except if you start going into multi terabyte drives

[brisk dome]

HDDs are good for media storage and not much else

[raven heart]

then getting bulk storage with those is fine

[solemn crane]

and it as DVD being advertised on the side

[raven heart]

oh you literally mean disks

[solemn crane]

yeah

[raven heart]

do not use disks for storage

[solemn crane]

okay

[raven heart]

the PC is just saying it has a dvd drive

[solemn crane]

music storage would be fine though right

cause I want to record my guitar with this

[brisk dome]

Eh might as well just put the recordings on the hard drive

[solemn crane]

I guess we are in 2025 after all

everything is digital now

[round delta]

recommendations for a high TBW SSD just for use as a boot drive? my current boot drive is sitting at 110 TBW out of the rated 100-140. it has slowed down alot. read speed is slowing a tad but the write speed is less than half the write speed rating.

oh, almost forgot the kicker. an empty jar has more money than I do for it 🤣
I really cant afford much right now.

[brisk dome]

This is pretty good

https://www.walmart.com/ip/WD-Blue-SN5000-NVMe-SSD-nbsp-1TB-WDBS3F0010BNC-WRWM/13541866278

Ok yeah given current pricing that's definitely your best bet

[uneven yacht]

https://amzn.eu/d/ia3h9zG what do you think of this for 100usd

[dusty thorn]

If I'm trying to setup a Synology DS725+ NAS for my home with two SSD's as the storage and want to use the m.2 slots on a NAS and no 2.5/3.5 sata, will that cause any problems?

I'm going through an RMA process on a samsung 980 pro 2TB right now, but i don't want to buy another one to do a basic raid setup, due to the cost of the samsung name, so I'm pretty sure I will buy another drive that may or may not be the same size as it's raid partner. would that be an issue as long as it has the same size or more? I might buy another 4TB KLEVV CRAS C910 and use ~2TB of it's extra storage for something else without the raid configuration.

I've only ever troubleshot raid setups in a business scenario and not set them up myself, so concepts like not using the same exact models is stuff I'm qquestioning here.

[shut furnace]

I can't say for sure, they only seem to advertise the m.2 slots for use as a cache. should be careful with that though as Synology doesn't have the best history with customizability.

[wooden nova]

When homie misunderstands your offer 😂

[crimson fjord]

for syncing obsidian from phone to pc without using any paid service should i have them sync via an intermediary or should i have them just all sync together?

[shut furnace]

personally what I did was initially setup a vault on a cloud service (iCloud, NextCloud, G Drive, etc) and just setup that folder to sync on all devices. it works but you can't open the same file on both devices simultaneously.

if you have a nas I also recall a friend of mine being able to set it up via syncthing as the intermediary

[vernal elm]

wanting to do a server build - very very light usage but wanting to actually maintain my full quality videos. For reference im burning through 128gb regularly before i delete files etc, if not 512gb.

when it comes to storage what will generally be more reliable, HDD's in raid or SSDs?

[vernal elm]

funny enough this is what im doing lol

Theres a nas build for $250 on amazon (cad) and the app is free but IMO im not paying for propietary software that might turn into a service cost with how much you see it nowadays. Comes with everything except drives which is cool whatever, but I can pick a PC up near me for $150 which will do everything except an online dropbox

[shut furnace]

Yeah that’s why I setup nextcloud so i can deliver photos to people when I didn’t feel like paying for we transfer or dropbox

[shut furnace]

I don’t think I can speak for reliability but HDDs are much cheaper and tbh you aren’t going to fully take advantage of the speed of SSDs if you are only on a 1 gigabit LAN

[vernal elm]

I will

not necessarily for online NAS transfer but getting gopro footage to store in a place for a long time and not wait forever on transfer speeds

or transferring to another computer, uploading etc

my 256gb card fills up fast, ive been dumping on my laptop but the 1tb is slowly creeping up... ideally 2tb is the goal for storage and have an open slot but it isnt that expensive either

$100 or so

im impatient if that helps

[shut furnace]

yeah a hard drive array should still at least be faster than micro sd card speeds. but you can try it out. might need to set it up as more of an ingest station

[vernal elm]

how do i do that

my knowledge is that i can stick a sd card in and transfer a file on a computer

[shut furnace]

NAS' generally are just built to transfer over ethernet. but i've seen setups to connecting media directly to a server and copying data over, don't know too much of the details myself. but tbh most sd cards probably wouldn't be bottlenecked by a ethernet connection

[vernal elm]

yeah I guess, im going to just try and find a cheap PC. Just sent an offer for an old thinkcentre slim pc

$100 and it has a tiny little 256gb boot drive, probably enough space for anohter SATA in there and easy to bring around

[shut furnace]

just try to do your research on specific models you come across to check sata and m.2 port availability. also many NAS operating systems do not allow anything except for the os to be on the boot drive. just something to keep in mind if you want to go down that route

[vernal elm]

i think im likely just going to go down the route of using it as a storage pc

fits my needs and price better

[shut furnace]

so wait what do you currently use for video storage? do you only use the sd cards?

oh the laptop

you could always just do an external drive as well.

[nova wren]

Are used sn850x wd 2tb nvme drive ok to purchase for a build?

[gusty anchor]

How cheap is it? Did they include any usage stats in the listing, like total writes?

[nova wren]

Oh they didn't I think it was like 110 120?

[gusty anchor]

I'm not a big fan of used ssds but that doesn't sound like a horrible price.

[nova wren]

Should I ask them for total writes? or any other information?

[gusty anchor]

I would or ask them for a crystal disk info screenshot. Nvme don't really report all the SMART data like sata ssds did though so there isn't much to look at.

[nova wren]

🫡 I'll see if that's possible I think they said they are moving soon so idk 😭

What do you think about using a ssd from a laptop?

I think we have a laptop that broke it's hinges so we don't use it anymore

[gusty anchor]

It would probably work. Sometimes laptop drives don't use the normal connectors if it's really old. Some cheap laptops also use soldered on storage.

[limpid wharf]

i plan to buy a new pc but the prebuilt has only one storage device that being a ssd

should i buy an additional hdd to store my programs on my hdd and my games on ssd?

[worn trail]

If you don't mind slow speeds on the storage for programs then yeah.

[limpid wharf]

i mean isnt it better to have slow speeds on programs fast speeds on games?

[meager lantern]

this normal?

[gritty sparrow]

I recently got a Samsung 9100 pro 4tb m.2

It’s really fast

Pcie gen 5 is wild

[wind harbor]

what's the biggest differences you're noticing?

[gritty sparrow]

Definitely a lot faster read and write speeds compared to my previous gen 4 WD m.2

[brisk dome]

0.5sec faster load times

[sullen oxide]

Yeah there’s not much difference

[worn trail]

@gritty sparrow what do you use it for?

[wild prawn]

I have 2 hard drives. should I back them up on seperate external ones or is one that is greater than both ok

the external one i got now is a seagate meant for xbox but i reformated it and all that so it should be good but i lwk dont know

[nova wren]

Any thoughts about SSD for Boot and hard drive for games?

Is this still a decent combo?

[real lava]

for modern games, HDD is not cutting it anymore

asset streaming, texture cache and storage speed requirements have increased

an SSD is essential for any kind of gaming if you wanna play modern games at a good performance

[sullen oxide]

Playing rivals launching from an HDD is horrid for me

[wild prawn]

New linux user here. Just installed bazzite

Trying to bring back all my stuff from external harddrives

When i load up diskgenius it shows that I have only 1 drive and theres only 76.6 gbs available

I have actually have 2 and 1 is 1 tb and the other is 2 tbs . Help pretty please?

[sullen oxide]

#linux-and-android @wild prawn

[wild prawn]

Gave up on linux

Trying to reinstall windows 11. Was good up until i started installing it

Stopped halfway through

Tryed to fix it and now i cant use my internal harddrives

They show up on the ez mode in asus bios but not in the pch storage config

[sullen oxide]

https://youtu.be/tD2pn1_jWPU?si=cOCaxKDXXBKOSQEE

[real lava]

i can attest to that vid too

i have a gen 3 drive for games and it's honestly pretty fast

and it's not even a high end one

just a cheap ol mp33

[sullen oxide]

Absolutely 0 point to ever get a gen 5
Hundreds more for <1%

[gusty anchor]

Well with the recent price hikes the cheap stuff has sold out and sometimes getting a gen 5 is a pretty minimal price difference. A lot of them run very hot, even at idle, and all of them require a heatsink. Even the newer more efficient ones like a 9100 or sn8100 are power hogs compared to most older models. When prices are spiking and the cheap stuff can't stay in stock it's more about what's a good deal at the moment unless you're patient and know what you're looking for.

[brisk dome]

For gaming yeah. They do have use for other applications

[cloud kiln]

except a fair bit of gamers insist on getting the fastest ssd for some reason

at least prior to the shortage

[real lava]

it's also fairly common to see higher end drives with the newer (and newest) pcie standard installed in high end gaming rigs

builds purely targeted to play games, and not do any work that requires a lot of storage speed

i guess it's the placebo effect and the fact that you can flex about it to others

[worn trail]

I am currently at the phase of transferring my games from a Samsung 980 to my SN850X due to speed and capacity reasons. Mostly speed.

Getting really annoyed with Rivals and other games taking forever to load the cache and shaders.

[sullen oxide]

Rivals is on an HDD for me

[worn trail]

How long does it take to load cache and shaders?

[sullen oxide]

When does it do that?

I don’t pay attention much

[worn trail]

Cache is when you open the game and it asks you to launch.

Shaders is during the main menu

Rivals has such an unoptimized shader loader that it takes longer then freaking Halo Infinite to load.

[sullen oxide]

Cache usually takes me like, 30-45s. I don’t really take much notice.

Shaders take 2-4 minutes. Occasionally 5+ when it’s a big update

[worn trail]

Yikes.

Here I was complaining about a one to two minute shader time.

[sullen oxide]

I use that time to go and check fbmp or something. Doesn’t bother me much.
I only have a 512gb nvme, and destiny 2 and TTW are on that
That takes the entire drive up

[sullen oxide]

@worn trail I timed it for you
Starting the game took 1 minute and 32 seconds
Loading shaders(using the bar on screen) took about 2 minutes and 8 seconds

[lapis pulsar]

That’s not bad at all

I don’t get ppl who have ssds and wanna upgrade for a faster ssd for just gaming 😭

[worn trail]

That is obnoxious.

[worn trail]

3.5-4m of waiting to play a game is not pleasant.

[lapis pulsar]

Look what he just said on an hdd

An HDD, nvm any ssd

[worn trail]

In my case it about two minutes and that's with a gen 3x4 nvme

[lapis pulsar]

That’s not bad at all

[worn trail]

So I am swapping the games to my SN850X.

[sullen oxide]

Some games, like rivals, have a huge cache

[sullen oxide]

Which in that case, is a good decision

[lapis pulsar]

Yeah that’s a good decision, but buying a new ssd just for saving a minute every so often is just dumb

[worn trail]

Rivals has a smaller cache then games like Halo Infinite and CoD yet takes twice as long to load.

[worn trail]

Ehh depends on how much you value your time because it does get annoying constantly waiting.

[sullen oxide]

That’s because rivals is still hella unoptimized

[worn trail]

Agreed.

[lapis pulsar]

Not with the current market or even the better past market it’s not worth it

SSDs are just so fast there’s really no effect

[worn trail]

Not sure what the current market is like. I bought my 4TB SN850X for $250