#old-monitors-and-tv

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misty gyro
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Your display doesn't support HDR according to that so don't worry about it

maiden wedge
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so 270 is lie ?

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how to have this setting do you have a monitor or g sync laptop maybe ???

misty gyro
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No it's variance. 10% is within tolerance for most computer parts. The only accurate way to measure the display is with an external sensor in a pitch black room.

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You'd have to have a display capable of HDR (High Dynamic Range)

maiden wedge
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are you using monitor ?

misty gyro
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Yes, I have a HDR monitor

maiden wedge
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oh laptop has no hdr technology only monitors ???

misty gyro
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Certain laptop models would have it, usually higher end stuff

maiden wedge
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like Alienware R4 15

misty gyro
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It's mostly a gimmicky feature for most people but it does affect brightness, that's the only reason I brought it up

maiden wedge
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oh dang 😦

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how much your monitor price

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and 300hz monitor maybe ?

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with g sync ?

visual pilot
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Why does brightness matter to you on the laptop..?

misty gyro
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I spent $300, it's the Gigabyte G27QC 1440p 165Hz

maiden wedge
visual pilot
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uh

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Listed peak brightness is most of the time very hard to actually hit

maiden wedge
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i paid 1200 usd to this laptop i don't want anything missing inside 😦

misty gyro
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It really doesn't matter anyway tbh

maiden wedge
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oh

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3200mhz ram and 2933mhz matters a lot ?

visual pilot
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Yea it doesn't really matter

maiden wedge
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1-2 fps maybe ?

visual pilot
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I'll take @misty gyro 's panel for example, RTings testing:

maiden wedge
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your laptop 287 nits ?

visual pilot
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and for SDR:

maiden wedge
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sorry monitor

visual pilot
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what

maiden wedge
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what testing program is this ?

visual pilot
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this isn't a program, RTings spends thousands upon thousands of dollars on testing equipment to measure things

misty gyro
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They do the testing the right way, with external sensors in a blacked out room

maiden wedge
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oh it is a tool rating i see

misty gyro
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Software will not accurately measure it

visual pilot
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Yea

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software wack

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rtings spend lotta money on equipment for measuring it

maiden wedge
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how much for laser brightness scanner thing ?

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300-500usd maybe ???

misty gyro
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More than a new laptop probably

maiden wedge
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omg

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why so much ?

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it is hard to make maybe ???

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Oled panels good ???

visual pilot
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Well

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RTings uses a "Colorimetry Research CR-100 Colorimeter" for measuring brightness, which seems to be priced around 5000$

maiden wedge
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wow more than an alienware laptop price

misty gyro
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Professional grade hardware is expensive because they need it to be highly accurate

visual pilot
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yep

maiden wedge
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only people with 3 kidneys can buy that i guess :/

limber crest
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its not meant for consumers, its meant for professional environments

misty gyro
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Or businesses whose job it is to measure these things

maiden wedge
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yea

visual pilot
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yep

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that's why sites like RTings does it, and not me or you

maiden wedge
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Those someone nows the the panel name for the MSI Optix G27C4 Optix 27" for replacement please 🙏

misty gyro
maiden wedge
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Cracked

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😩

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@misty gyro thanks for your help

misty gyro
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Sorry, looks like the only option is to claim insurance if you opted for it.
As I have kids and my monitor is in a common area, I always get insurance 😓

mossy tendon
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I asked this before but is it possible to buy a 4K 144hz TV (around 50 inches?) for less than a grand USD?

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120hz works too if it’s cheaper

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And I don’t mean ‘4K 60hz but it also does 1080p 144hz’ I mean 4K full 144hz

sage trail
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just get 50 inch monitor

mossy tendon
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That’s... not under a grand lmao

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If it’s not possible then just tell me

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What about a large 1440p 144hz monitor?

sage trail
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lmao didnt notice that part

mossy tendon
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Do those exist?

sage trail
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theres a 32 inch

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idk if they get much bigger than that

mossy tendon
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Not large enough

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Needs to be around 50”

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And under a grand

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And 120hz minimum

sage trail
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yeah, i dont think they make tvs over 120hz

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so thats like the max lol

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just noticed that, but at 600 it seems kinda cheep

mossy tendon
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I’ve seen than one before

sage trail
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do it have bad reviews or smthn

mossy tendon
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Maybe it’s a manufacturing technique?

sage trail
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idk, that seems to check all your boxes

mossy tendon
sage trail
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it do be LG

mossy tendon
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Seems fine

sage trail
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maybe lynus has sumthin 2 say about it

mossy tendon
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According to reviews, it’s just hard to use but works fine

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And there are some unnecessary ‘features’ that everyone turns off immediately

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Color quality around black pixels is lacking a bit as well

sage trail
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can ya really complain for 600 tho, thats the question

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i dont actually know much abt the tv market

mossy tendon
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Me neither

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But it seems like a damn fine deal

sage trail
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is 600 a good price for that? idfk

mossy tendon
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It’s a steal

sage trail
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its literally the cheapest on best buy lol

mossy tendon
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Also HBO MAX is incredibly annoying to make a new account on

misty gyro
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TVs usually top out at 120 and often it's fake 120 anyway

sage trail
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yee, but this one supports fake 240hz flush

misty gyro
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But is that fake 240 actually an AI smoothed 60?

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I suppose I could find out myself lol

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Ah it's a smoothed 120, I approve

gilded cloak
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One dead pixel, return?

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Its near the bottom left on this UW

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In this area for perspective

misty gyro
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They won't accept a return for a single pixel. It's usually 8 that's the rma threshold.

gilded cloak
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I have 15 days for return to my local store

misty gyro
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If they take open box returns you can roll the dice and get another if you want

gilded cloak
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It's a refurbished model, the last one

misty gyro
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I'd keep it personally, a single pixel isn't that distracting to me, especially being where it is since that's usually where a HUD is in game.

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Of course, I also come from a family where my mom has had the same TV with a line of dead pixels right in the middle of the screen on a 720p model from 2009 so I might be biased.

gilded cloak
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Actually it's not a dead pixel rather a stuck pixel

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Only displays pink

mossy tendon
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How is smoothed better than native?

misty gyro
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Smoothed is not better than native. It's using an algorithm to guess what the frames between the frames would look like.
With a PC attached it's best to go with native refresh.
If you're playing back high refresh video, you can safely use the fake higher refresh setting since latency doesn't matter.

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I was saying that if it was a native 60Hz that was smoothed to 240Hz that would be really bad, but it's 120Hz so not as bad as some I've seen.

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Yeah, closer to $600. Not bad at all for 4k 120/240 50"

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If you try to play with the 240Hz mode on you'll get noticeable latency and possibly ghosting and/or tearing. 120Hz is native and should be OK.

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You can always set a game to 1080p and hit the 120 fps easy

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Depends on view distance mostly, but yeah

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Between 5 and 7 feet would be optimal for 4k, 7 to 10 feet for 1080p on a 50 inch screen.

slate hamlet
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I have a single green pixel on my secondary monitor

misty gyro
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Only the red is dead? Dang that panel has issues with subpixels then

summer obsidian
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Out of curiosity how old is the monitor? I have a really old 900p monitor as my second display that works great but then I keep hearing about people who have all these dead pixels on monitors

minor onyx
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17 years

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first one ever made

summer obsidian
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ah ok

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granted not that i really know much about monitors

willow charm
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How is this monitor

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for the price

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i'm currently using a 144hz tn led panel

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and

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And the colors are noticeably worse than my 10 year old second monitor

summer obsidian
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TN tends to have pretty bad colors and the Asus is IPS so it should probably be a lot better

willow charm
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Is that a

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good price for the ips asus one though?

slate hamlet
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Yes

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Too good...

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Read it all carefully, something must be missing

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Well it is 1080p

river edge
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I was gonna say, $300 for 1080p is too low?

slate hamlet
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$300 for ips hdr 400 280hz is kinda low

river edge
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Actually, it seems that monitor is that price pretty much anywhere

slate hamlet
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The penultimate 1080p monitor then

summer obsidian
visual pilot
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Hm

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Amazon listing wack

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Doesn't say panel type

slate hamlet
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It's 24.5

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So I assume that's rounded up

summer obsidian
summer obsidian
river edge
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I just did the model number

toxic jungle
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Hi! Does anyone know if you can connect a 2020 MacBook Pro to two individual monitors to extend the desktop? They are older monitors and use displayport cables. Does anyone know if this is doable or will I likely need to upgrade my monitors? Thank you!

full moat
toxic jungle
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Yes I believe so. That and VGA and DVI

full moat
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adapters might be the simplest solution then

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but have a look at what belkin offers, they are generally solid

toxic jungle
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Alright great. Thank you, I’ll check them out

full moat
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you are very welcome, and best of luck

mortal kiln
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Anyone have experience getting nvidia surround set up?

weak moat
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Yo. I’m looking to pick up a new monitor narrowed it down to the Alienware aw2521 or the asus vg259qm anyone have any thoughts. I only play comp. shooters

fading wyvern
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Well between those 2 it’s really down to price imo.

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And if you prefer the aesthetics of the Alienware, typically they make super distinctive products

weak moat
fading wyvern
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Those are pretty much the top of the line, if you have the extra budget and the gpu power moving up to a 1440p panel could also be fun.

river edge
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There's only one showing up? Looks good though but out of stock

quartz sandal
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they both out of stock

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but skytech if just gaming

hushed quartz
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Wasn't out of stock when i was looking lol thats how fast it went

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Did you check the specs?

quartz sandal
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Yes

hushed quartz
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Okay so sky tech is better. Any cons to the parts difference?

quartz sandal
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no just out of the two you picked that specific sky tech one but yeah, the msi has a 9th gen processor, whereas the sky tech has a ryzen 5 5600x which is newer and has better single core perf

hushed quartz
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What do you mean by i picked that specific sky tech? Are there better ones currently?

errant summit
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What's the cheapest 2k nvidia reflex monitor?

slate hamlet
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you have... 3 choices

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2 of them are not even released

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one of them I can't find a price for

errant summit
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I was wondering if that even exits

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Exists

slate hamlet
errant summit
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Because I was just looking and could only find 2 reflex monitors

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Both 1080p

slate hamlet
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man I would love to try a 360hz

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just because

errant summit
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I don't even want 360hz

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I just want the latency analyzer

slate hamlet
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I think 360hz is probably worthless with the current panels

errant summit
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Even with my 3080 I don't get 360 fps a lot

slate hamlet
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it's forever future proofed

errant summit
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What about a good 2k 144hz monitor

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Best bang for buck

slate hamlet
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m27q

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best bang for buck, m27q

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best all-rounder, dell s2721dgf

errant summit
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What are the differences?

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Besides price

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M27q price looking pretty nice

slate hamlet
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Basically dell has a better response time

errant summit
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ah

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for 100 dollars more

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this is my current monitor

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Acer XFA240

slate hamlet
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I'd have to look more into it

errant summit
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looking to use it as my second screen

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will the fact that the M27Q is free sync affect anything?

visual pilot
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It's g sync compatible

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Tested to be working

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:p

errant summit
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nice

sage trail
slate hamlet
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no like

sage trail
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so its a proof of concept, mostly

slate hamlet
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I physically do not think 360hz is doing anything with current panel tech

sage trail
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wdym

slate hamlet
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yknow how you could have a 144hz monitor but if it's response time is above 4ms it's worthless

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same thing

sage trail
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no?

slate hamlet
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if the gray to gray transition can't keep up it makes no difference

sage trail
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more like 7ms

visual pilot
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And remember how latency works

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They add on to each other

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:p

sage trail
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and even then, you probably wouldnt notice the ghosting of 8-10ms

fickle fulcrum
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LG needs to hurry up and release the 27GP950 before I have an aneurysm from using a 1080p 60 Hz monitor on a 3090

slate hamlet
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dear god yes youw ould

sage trail
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nope

slate hamlet
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I have used a bad latency device before it is atrocious

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ghosty trails yuck

sage trail
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on a 144hz panel, the pixels have 7ms to change color as a worst case scenario

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i would assume it takes the longest to go from like black to white, but im not totally sure

slate hamlet
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wait now tthat I'm looking at it

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should I just get an m27q

errant summit
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im thinking about it

sage trail
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yeah they look fantastic

visual pilot
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Yes

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M27qqqq

slate hamlet
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i mean sure the dell has signifcantly better latency but...

sage trail
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it prolly does

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you wouldnt notice tho

visual pilot
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"significantly better"

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But is it realistically better >:D

slate hamlet
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rtings actually gives the color performance score to the 27q

errant summit
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The problem with the m27q is that its bigger than my other monitor

slate hamlet
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1440p at 24inch isn't happening

errant summit
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pain

slate hamlet
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that would be some killer pixel density though

errant summit
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4k 24"

sage trail
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1440p, 24", 240hz

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i would poog

slate hamlet
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apparently the dell has superior colors overall, after calibration, but much worse without

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and since no normal human being really does professional calibration...

visual pilot
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After calibration can be safely ignored lol

errant summit
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i had to for my current monitor

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its colors out of the box were absolutely awful

visual pilot
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Professional calibration is crazy

errant summit
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maybe not professional\

visual pilot
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Like the color sensor rtings uses costs around 5 grand

slate hamlet
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I find that stuff hilarious honestly

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like legitimately hilarious

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"color critical work"

visual pilot
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I find it interesting

slate hamlet
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my dude you are making a mcdonalds ad

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it's hilarious to me

visual pilot
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Lol

slate hamlet
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"we absolutely must achieve perfect color accuracy!"

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so that no one can enjoy it.. we don't have good monitors my dude

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ok so then the ultimate difference between the dell and the m27q is this

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the dell has better gaming performance, dp 1.4 instead of 1.2, and 2 more usb ports, but it needs calibrating

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the m27q is absolutely fine out the box, but not adjustable

errant summit
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not adjustable?

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wack

slate hamlet
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yeah the dell has a much better stand

errant summit
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oh no

slate hamlet
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I honestly might still want the dell...

errant summit
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not the stand

slate hamlet
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I crave the ms

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some spare ms m'lord

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by the time I have a good enough gpu to power it there will probably be another 1440p gaming king anyway though

errant summit
slate hamlet
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did you really

errant summit
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yes

slate hamlet
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congrats

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what your gpu tho

errant summit
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3080

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as in my name

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yes i know i could do 4k but i dont need that, i got the 3080 for da frames

slate hamlet
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I cannot read

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m27q also has virtually no inverse ghosting

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it would probably make more sense overall for me to get an m27q and just, a good vesa stand

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is there such thing as a vesa STAND, like, just a better stand not a mount

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I don't really have a good setup for a mount

sage trail
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its not a terrible stand to begin with

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unless its just too big for your desk or sumthn

slate hamlet
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idk it's probably fine

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I don't like that my desk has a tapered edge to the back of it, makes the monitors have to lean against the wall almost

hushed quartz
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@quartz sandal its not out of stock anymore. Hehe i bought it.

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Well i mean now its out of stock to everyone else

quartz sandal
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nice idk why this in displays tho lol

hushed quartz
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Oh where should I go? Sorry

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General chat. I'll go there. My apologies

quartz sandal
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yeah or build chat tbh

hushed quartz
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Okay.

lucid flax
short terrace
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Need a new display for my moms "New" Laptop

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Alienware 17 r1

summer obsidian
lucid flax
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My laptop doesn't have a functioning screen anymore... so I'm running it hooked to a monitor.

slate hamlet
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best in which regard

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jeez I feel like I've been answering the same question over and over

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probably get an m27q

quaint mist
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gsync compatible 1440 -- nice

slate hamlet
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almost everything is gsync compatible at this point

near perch
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vg27aq asus tuf

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got it and no regrets

visual pilot
slate hamlet
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had I the ability..

fading wyvern
visual pilot
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lol

near perch
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now that im looking at it, the m27q would've been a better pick for me and cheaper but eh color accuracy isn't 100% my needs

maiden wedge
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Anyone got any monitor recommendations? 1440 or 4k. Want to do ultra wide.

slate hamlet
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so 3440 x 1440 is what you're looking for

maiden wedge
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Yeah

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I guess I dunno it’s my first set up lol

slate hamlet
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what gpu you got

unreal portal
quartz sandal
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looks good, idk if its a bit dimm tho

unreal portal
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ok

quartz sandal
quaint mist
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hey do most monitors have flicker protect and blue screen protect

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askin for my epilepsy

slate hamlet
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oo

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all monitors you can simply put on a blue light filter

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but no clue about the flicker thing

quaint mist
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ooo it has it

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"ASUS Eye Care technology with TUV Rheinland Certification for Flicker-free and Low Blue Light technology to minimize eye fatigue and ensure a comfortable viewing experience"

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Would you suggest LED or IPS for games like assassins creed/overwatch?

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err VA / TN

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not LED

visual pilot
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Ips is usually nice in general

fading wyvern
neon gyro
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I have seen a lot about the Samsung G7 odyssey 32" and before I buy it wanted to know if anyone here has one or has any feedback about it?

lyric ore
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any good gaming monitors between 200 and 300 dollars

misty gyro
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M27Q

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G27QC

lyric ore
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pog

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thanks

misty gyro
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No problem

errant summit
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@slate hamlet just installed my monitor

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the m27q

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this thing is humongous compared to my 24 inch

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i can see everything

fading wyvern
slate hamlet
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Nice

hot zephyr
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I want to buy a new monitor sometime in the near future (1440p, IPS?) but I'm not really sure how that's work with my current setup:

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I'd like to still be able to use both of these current monitors and have access to the CRT for gaming without needing to mess with cables (moving an arm would be fine).

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Any recommendations? I've never done anything with monitor mounting/arms, but I bet it'd give me a lot more freedom (would love to have that smaller one vertical once I get around to buying a new one)

slate hamlet
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wh...

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why do you have a crt

hot zephyr
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y e s

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I collect retro consoles and it's really nice for them mainly.

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it also is the only display connected to my server machine, to display the console in case I manage to break ssh again

slate hamlet
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I suggest you simply don't

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I'm pretty sure you can change the scaling method of a monitor which will accomplish it fine

hot zephyr
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The CRT is non-negotiable.

slate hamlet
hot zephyr
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I propose a compromise. The CRT can be behind a monitor in the final setup, and it can be revealed by moving an arm somehow.

slate hamlet
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uh, yeah that's possible I guess

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do you really need an additional monitor though

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do you have the graphics output necessary for that

hot zephyr
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RTX 3060Ti

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I dunno. I def want to try getting the smaller one to be vertical (its stand is terrible and doesn't support that) as I'm told it's nice for programming.

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And when gaming I've been disappointed by 1080p on the larger one, esp when I know I can drive QHD fine.

slate hamlet
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so sounds like you need 2 replacements rather than 1 new one

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or well, if you're fine with 1 1440p with a good stand

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in which case the m27q meets your criteria, but would need a vesa stand

hot zephyr
slate hamlet
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m27q gonna be your best bet then

hot zephyr
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oof it's as much as my GPU was.

slate hamlet
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you won't get all those features for much cheaper

hot zephyr
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400€ + whatever exorbitant shipping in baguette

slate hamlet
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seriously

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you might be able to find a 1440p VA panel for cheaper

hot zephyr
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I bought all my stuff for less than half price, or got it for free and repaired

slate hamlet
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smart

hot zephyr
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The VG245 (larger monitor in pic) was 65€ used on a local market

slate hamlet
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bruhhhhh

hot zephyr
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The CRT was a trade from a friend for one of my server machines I wasn't using. The server was built from many PC parts I had salvaged from other's dead PCs.

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And the other smaller monitor I think was free from someone in the US back when I lived there and getting stuff wasn't insanely expensive no matter what.

slate hamlet
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be on the lookout for a used m27q or dell s2721dgf then I guess

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the dell will need calibration though, consider yourself warned

hot zephyr
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Should I buy a monitor calibration tool? My colors always feel off when I manually calibrate.

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Even now, these two monitors don't look to me like they match, but they do to my phone camera.

hot zephyr
slate hamlet
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Idk, those are expensive

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Look at the hardware unboxed video, there are other options

hot zephyr
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What about a stand for these two (and maybe three if I end up using all three)? Does any VESA stand work (looking at max weight and what ways it can turn, for the vertical monitor), or should I look out for specific things?

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Thanks for the help btw :)

slate hamlet
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There are 3 monitor stands, I'm not familiar with them

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I'm no expert, I don't vesa mount myself

hot zephyr
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alright 👍

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thanks!

slate hamlet
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The channel hardware unboxed does detailed breakdowns of each monitor

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They will go into response times and colors

visual pilot
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Rtings good too

maiden wedge
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are westinghouse monitors good for light gaming and workstation?

misty gyro
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Which one exactly? modelbrand

maiden wedge
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I dont do heavy gaming so I don’t really care for freesync or gsync

misty gyro
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Looks like a below average overall monitor from what I'm seeing

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Not bad, but not good either. If you're not super picky about color accuracy and other features it'll work.

maiden wedge
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Okay thanks

fading wyvern
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Ah I was showing off some random hp 144hz 1080p monitor a while ago, believe it or not it had some pretty great response times tested by rtings. Let me check if it’s still on sale, was a ips also.

fading wyvern
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This guy is 10$ cheaper and pretty well reviewed on rtings

misty gyro
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It's also a 24 inch, the one they linked is 27

fading wyvern
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Ah didn’t even realize. Well better pixel density

misty gyro
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Yeah personally I wouldn't do 1080p on anything higher than 24 inches.

fading wyvern
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Like look at it 👀

maiden wedge
neon gyro
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Whats your guys opinion on the Samsung g7 odyssey 32"?

misty gyro
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Seems like it's pretty good for what it is

neon gyro
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Alr sweet thank you I wanna see what ppl think before I buy it cuz its rly expensive lol

slate hamlet
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1440p, 240hz, but 32"

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stinky dpi

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but if you use it more like a TV I guess that's fine

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va panel

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actually, $800 for that seems kinda insane

sick plume
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@river edge is this allowed or filter bypass?

slate hamlet
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huh

nova cloud
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Dodging the filter a little bit

summer obsidian
summer obsidian
sick plume
summer obsidian
misty gyro
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Looks like a good deal to me, and the response time on that thing is phenomenal at 4ms

neon gyro
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Are there any 1440p 240hz moniters that are at least 32" besides the Samsung g7 or any that are better than it?

mystic flower
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any good monitors for an rtx 2060

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under 200 preferably

visual pilot
neon gyro
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I only want it that big because I have a 32" right now and I feel like after using it for so long it might feel weird downscaling

visual pilot
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I mean

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pixel density is great

mystic flower
#

im looking for a $200 monitor. does anyone have any suggestions?

visual pilot
#

MSI G241 should be 190$

mystic flower
#

usd?

visual pilot
#

ye

mystic flower
#

does it support gsync

visual pilot
#

freesync = g-sync compatible 99% of the time

quartz sandal
#

All the time now iirc

visual pilot
#

weird things always happen so I say 99% in case there's some exception

quartz sandal
#

Fair lol

visual pilot
#

wack they made a new one

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should still be good

mystic flower
#

ok

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i game at 1080p 60

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this monitor will be a big upgrade

summer obsidian
vivid wave
#

anyone know why m 1080p monitor is blurry, i have gtx 750m macbook

misty gyro
lucid flax
#

Would you believe I saw somebody leave a nasty review on the MSI G241 saying a 24-inch 1080p monitor is trash in 2021? Considering the GPU crisis, some people may not have the cards to drive a better monitor.

slate hamlet
#

24 1080p is perfectly acceptable

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Any bigger would be a bit gross

lucid flax
#

I think the implication is 1080p should just go away in that nut's mind.

limber crest
#

entirely depends on screen size and what youre doing with it

slate hamlet
#

1080p will eventually be phased out like 720p I'm sure

slate hamlet
#

Aww

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I understand

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I definitely don't take my stuff for granted, for me I went from a gt 730 to a 1660ti

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Before that I had something even worse

hot zephyr
#

I found a used ASUS S27D850 27'' for 120€ + 20€ shipping, but the person says they probably can't ship (they're too far to drive to) because they no longer have the original box. Would it be worth trying to convince them to ship with a different box? Seems like a really good price for this monitor.

primal mortar
#

can someone help me to understand why this does this and if i can fix it

visual pilot
#

wat

primal mortar
#

it’s the m27q gigabyte monitor

visual pilot
#

Check display settings in rust

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looks like rust is running 1080p for some reason

primal mortar
#

no it’s for any game

visual pilot
#

wack

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nvcp and check what the display resolution is

primal mortar
#

oh bc i can’t run 1440p yet my 3070 comes in 2 days

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nvcp?

visual pilot
#

NVidia Control Panel

primal mortar
#

oh my god i had it at 60hz and it’s a 170 this whole time smh i thought i changed it

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i mean it still does it but omg

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wait i can run 1440 p rust with a 2060 super??

visual pilot
#

well, 30fps, maybe

primal mortar
#

rn i’m getting 110

visual pilot
#

depends on in-game settings ofc

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and also, did they add hdrp into main branch of rust yet?

primal mortar
#

yea i do play pretty low bc i see ppl better on lower settings but i do not think so

visual pilot
#

fair

primal mortar
#

is the tuf gaming 3070 a good one?

visual pilot
#

Yea

primal mortar
#

i rly wanted the strix white but its so overpriced

visual pilot
#

Oh well, as long as you got a card, it's nice

primal mortar
#

yea im happy even tho i could have pretty much got a 3090 if i spent a bit more if things were msrp

celest lark
#

what is a good freestanding triple monitor stand?

near perch
#

i love the aesthetic of the tuf line

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the tuf cards i think are pretty up to par

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and they look beefy

vivid wave
#

for example u got 24 inch 1080p and 27 inch, will the 27 be blurry cus its bigger

fading wyvern
slate hamlet
#

27 inch 1080p blurry unless you're really far away

scarlet igloo
#
fading wyvern
#

It’s alright people tend to dislike VA panels and prefer IPS because of its color accuracy. Also the display is curved; kinda weird. It’s a solid choice tho

peak gorge
#

is there a cheap 144 hz

visual pilot
#

Depends on what you call cheap

peak gorge
#

below 120

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lol

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i found one for 80 but the package got delivered to the wrong place

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lol

visual pilot
#

Eh, some have been 110-130 on sales

peak gorge
#

the other day this dude was asking what type of pc would get him good frames in among us

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lol

mystic flower
#

any good 1080p montiors under 200. preferably gsync and 165 hz

river edge
#

Freesync is cheaper and Gsync compatible. Gsync makes monitors more expensive, FYI

mystic flower
#

so 1080p 165 hz monitor under 200

quartz sandal
#

Aoc asus and acer i believe have good ones under 200

river edge
#

Ya, they just cost more

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Freesync is fine and generally less expensive

summer obsidian
quartz sandal
#

A potato would doo fine tbh

mystic flower
#

lol

peak gorge
#

ikr

peak gorge
#

it has chrome os lol

#

i dont even think you can play among us

nova cloud
#

:brain:

misty gyro
peak gorge
misty gyro
#

Yes, Linux will literally run on a toaster

lucid flax
#

Sometimes I think for toying around I should set up a virtual machine with Linux.

misty gyro
#

Sure, what harm could that do? It's a great way to learn Linux too, use snapshots before you do major changes so even if it gets borked you can roll back.

quartz sandal
#

You could always dual boot as well

steel garden
#

Comparing these 2 which is better? ASUS - TUF Gaming VG32VQ or Dell - S3220DGF

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Or the GIGABYTE G34WQC Ultrawide?

visual pilot
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@steel garden Well, what's the reason for the size?

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I would say G34WQC out of them because ultrawide means it's 3440x1440 and has actually good pixel density

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and being a better panel in general over vg32vq, it trades blows with s3220dgf in various different tests

steel garden
#

The dell is actually the cheapest

heady knot
#

What privacy screen is compatible with a Samsung UN32N5300AF monitor?

misty gyro
#

Dang, I didn't realize those privacy screens were so expensive, the ones I see for that size (31.5") are $100+

summer obsidian
misty gyro
#

Yeah even a little 18.5" laptop screen is $60

visual pilot
steel garden
silk vigil
#

Bruh my pc was working fine 2 hours ago I come back and it doesn’t have signal to any monitor I hook it up to wtf

misty gyro
#

Turn off, flip power switch, hold power button 60 seconds, turn on computer

neon gyro
#

Anyone know of any 240hz 32" 1440p moniters? I know the amasung g7 but are there any other u guys know of?

misty gyro
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That's pretty much it for the time being

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The closest things are 27"

gilded cloak
#

Yea I returned the one dead pixel ultrawide, now looking at a Gigabyte g34wqc

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Potentially abled to get my uncle to get a employee reimbursement so the cost will go down to either $475-550 from $620 CAN

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Hopefully its a great monitor, seen many reviews on it

errant edge
#

Does anyone know if the LG 27UL500 works with windows? As far as i can tell its apple only but just want to double check

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Someone said its not OS dependant

misty gyro
#

Should work fine with Windows, OS doesn't matter for monitors. It's the video card that determines compatibility.

errant edge
#

Its a radeon monitor, i think the laptop has intel integrated graphics

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its my dads laptop id have to check

misty gyro
#

If the video card has the right ports (hdmi or displayport) it works

errant edge
#

Cool thanks

neon gyro
#

What do u guys think about the LG32GN5OT

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I'm at Costco rn and its 209$ so I wanted to see what u guys think before I buy it?

slate hamlet
#

1080p at 32"???

neon gyro
#

Oh wait its 1080p? 😂 nvm lol

misty gyro
#

Yeah I wouldn't get that unless you're sitting a few feet back from the monitor, pixel density will be awful

summer obsidian
#

Is the Msi G242 a decent monitor? I've been looking around at 144hz ips monitors at that size and from what I can tell it looks like a pretty good monitor for the price.

misty gyro
#

From what I've seen yes, G242 is good

summer obsidian
#

Thanks👍

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Yea hardware unboxed recently reccomended it if it was better priced than the his recomendation. Since they had the same panel he just hadn't personally tested the msi one

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I was just wondering if other people knew things, I feel way in over my head on monitor stuff

slate hamlet
#

322 average nits is decent

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99% srgb and 93%dcrp is dang decent

summer obsidian
slate hamlet
#

G242 is also adaptive sync isn't it?

summer obsidian
#

Yes

slate hamlet
#

For 1080p seems like a good pick

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Srgb = standard r g b,

summer obsidian
#

Yea

#

Ooh the 1-3 week shipping time is a bit rough for me. Might look and see if another retailer has it for 180 and what their shipping time are

slate hamlet
#

Asus vg249pg is better for gaming for a bit more

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Afaik

summer obsidian
#

Is it a difference I'll notice or that is worth the money?

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Lol

neon gyro
#

So I am have been looking for a 32", 1440p moniter that has a high refresh rate, preferably at least 165 or 170hz, any recommendations?

errant edge
#

Best buy and adorama have some good ones

summer obsidian
#

I think I'll probably just stick with the msi. It keeps me closer to my budget not that it was a very rigid one

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time to go order a super long displayport cable now lol

lucid flax
#

I have the MSI G241. I'm finding it to be quite a nice monitor.

summer obsidian
#

Anyone know of a good brand for Displayport cables? the brand I get most of my other cables from only does hdmi

misty gyro
lucid flax
#

I know the 3060 I bought is overkill for the monitor, but I kind of picked the monitor back in the days when I was just gonna get a 1660 Super.

errant edge
#

is it worth it running 1440p with a 3060 ti?

summer obsidian
lucid flax
#

Reminds me I'll need a displayport cable since this monitor didn't come with one, just HDMI.

errant edge
#

Yeah just not sure if its worth it buying a 1440p 144hz monitor when i can run cold war at just around max settings, and i have to turn them down a bit when i stream at 1080p 165hz

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alr

lucid flax
#

I know the 3060 is probably capable of doing 1440p... too bad I bought my 1080p monitor last year.

errant edge
#

Yeah i did

misty gyro
#

DLSS works well enough for lower resolutions, it can render 720p and upscale to 1080p

#

You probably don't want to do that though

lucid flax
#

It's still gonna look good and I'm gonna have the best FPS I've ever had.

misty gyro
#

What you probably want to enable for single player games is DSR, so it renders in a higher resolution and displays at the monitor resolution

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"Competitive" titles leave it off

neon gyro
#

So I have a 3080, r9 3900X, 32gb ram, would getting a 240hz moniter rly be that much of a benefit compared to a 165 or 170hz moniter?

misty gyro
#

It depends. Some people can't really tell the difference between the higher refresh rates. (me being one)
Also, getting that high refresh rate really limits your options. If you want 1440p your only choice is Odyssey G7.

lucid flax
#

What's DSR?

misty gyro
#

Dynamic Super Resolution

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It lets the game render in a higher resolution (like 1440p or 4k) and then scales it down to monitor resolution

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Makes things look much smoother, edges look sharper

neon gyro
#

Would it be worth to get the g7 u think compared to a different one thats like 170hz or smthn?

misty gyro
#

Personally, no. I'm not super picky. I'd go for something like the Gigabyte M27Q.

#

Often on sale for around $300, vs the G7 that's usually like $700-800

#

Unless you play competitive esports titles you don't need that high refresh anyway

neon gyro
#

Aight bet ill prob go with a different one cuz im like 15 and 800$ for a moniter is like all my money anyway 😂

near perch
#

vg27aq

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has ips panel, 165hz, 1440p and 400-420$

#

response time is like 5ms i think

#

i own it and i love it

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its not the greatest at color accuracy but thats okay

#

@neon gyro

visual pilot
#

Gigabyte M27q

visual pilot
#

1ms mprt g2g whatever they want to call it

#

in reality, something like 15ms

#

at worse a "1ms" monitor can have a 40ms pixel response time

near perch
#

I found the 5ms or so on rtings

visual pilot
#

11.5ms total response time on rtings

#

with some overshoot

near perch
#

Still not terrible for ips

#

Its a shame though it only has dp 1.2

#

So i cant do 10 bit color @ 165hz

visual pilot
#

I mean, the monitor is 8 bit anyways

visual pilot
#

anyways

#

vg27aq decent monitor, I find M27q just to be better bang for the buck and better performance in general

neon gyro
#

Sorry I had a game lol thank yall for the recommendations but do u know if they make any in a 32"?

summer obsidian
#

Awesome super glad she likes it and I'm glad to hear its a nice monitor

#

👍

neon gyro
#

What do you guys think about the asus strix XG32VC? I am thinking about pulling the trigger and getting as I found it on Amazon rn for $500? Do you guys think its a good moniter or are there others I can get that are same specs for better?

slate hamlet
#

doo you particularly want it to be bigger

#

the dell s2721dgf hits all those boxes at 27" for about $450-470

#

the m27q hits all those boxes at 27" for about $330

neon gyro
#

id like a 32" moniter to be honest

slate hamlet
#

are you really far away?

neon gyro
#

cuz rn i have a 32" and it would feel weird to downsize lol

fading wyvern
#

It seems to be fine overall, response time seems great. If you want to spend the money for a larger screen go for it

visual pilot
#

ehhh

#

m32q not out yet :(

neon gyro
#

would you guys prefer the Asus rog strix XG32VC, Auros FI32Q, or the LG 32Gp83B?

visual pilot
#

and uw wack

slate hamlet
#

ok do you need 32 in though

fading wyvern
#

I’m a lg fanboy so don’t ask me

neon gyro
#

i would really want one yea xD

slate hamlet
#

HOW FAR AWAY ARE YOU

visual pilot
#

pretty sure the rest of those listed monitors are 16:9 so pixel density kinda sad

neon gyro
#

honestly like 5 inches lol

visual pilot
#

but uw monitor is nice pixel density

slate hamlet
#

so about 2ft?

#

get a 27"

neon gyro
#

what is uw lol

slate hamlet
#

ultrawide

neon gyro
#

o i see ok

visual pilot
#

it's 3440x1440p 21:9

slate hamlet
#

good for movies lol

visual pilot
#

so it's got more pixels for being more stretched

#

:P

#

instead of being stretched but with the same amount of pixels

fading wyvern
#

Ultrawides are nice to use

neon gyro
#

either asus XG32Vc, auros FI32Q, or LG32GN650, which do I get and why?

visual pilot
#

if the 3 are the only options, don't have good reviews on any of them, but LG 32GN650-B got a decent review

slate hamlet
#

when in doubt, watch hardware unboxed

visual pilot
#

no

#

when in doubt, rtings

slate hamlet
#

bof

visual pilot
#
#

like this is so nice, being able to click on a value and see score distribution, and some other monitors that perform similarly >:P

#

rtings superiority

#

Though rtings kinda bad for peripheral reviews

neon gyro
#

im using it for gaming only pretty much, u guys think lg or asus?

visual pilot
#

what

neon gyro
#

its too big xD cuz i have to share desk space with my dad lol

visual pilot
#

WHAT

#

why not m27q

#

it's better than all the other options if you have limited space

#

basically beats every other option in pixel response time, overshoot, color accuracy, price, pixel density, and color gamut

neon gyro
#

needs to be 32" lol

visual pilot
#

then wait for m32q to be available :P

#

just an annoying situation

#

I'd grab M27q

slate hamlet
#

it does NOT need to be 32"

#

you're making it actively worse for yourself by doing so

fading wyvern
#

He doesn’t wanna downsize tho

slate hamlet
fading wyvern
#

No point forcing it lmao

visual pilot
#

wait for m32q to release imo

#

should be out soon

#

reviews are out

fading wyvern
#

That or go for the LG LG FAN BOYS RISE UP

visual pilot
#

:(

fading wyvern
#

🤷‍♂️

visual pilot
#

normal 27in 1440p is 108ppi, 32in 1440p is 91ppi, uw 1440p is 109ppi

#

2560x1440 for 27in and 32in, 3440x1440 for 34in uw

neon gyro
#

whats the differnce between the m32q and like the FI32Q or smthn?

visual pilot
#

basically same thing but cheaper

slate hamlet
#

the m32q ain't out yet

#

lol

#

availalbe

#

whatever

visual pilot
#

ya

#

whatever

neon gyro
#

i would have gotten the FI32Q but i legit cant find it anywhere

visual pilot
#

m32q should also have better pixel response

#

should be bae 0 overshoot

neon gyro
#

can u guys find the FI32Q anywhere to buy lol

visual pilot
#

it's 750$ somewhere and that's not a good price so I'm not going to link it

#

like M27q is 330$ damn it

#

you can have 2 M27q's for that price

neon gyro
#

and if it supports freesync when i have like a 3080... would the freesync mess anything up or what would happen?

visual pilot
#

it's g-sync compatible

#

doesn't matter

#

tested working with g-sync

neon gyro
#

like in general i was just wondering

#

if a moniter has freesync what would happen

#

if i had a nvidia gpu

visual pilot
#

freesync = g-sync compatible in every monitor I know

#

because it's basically the same tech

#

vrr

neon gyro
#

oh ok thank you guys also for helping me with all this lol

misty gyro
#

In order for them to say "gsync compatible" they need to get validated by Nvidia and meet certain minimum performance standards. Mostly only the cheapest/older stuff doesn't pass, though.

summer obsidian
#

Or unless the monitor is only hdmi and vga like my friend's, no g-sync over hdmi on free-sync monitors.

summer obsidian
#

I mean before I just ordered my new monitor yesterday, my second monitor was a 20" 900p monitor

jovial gull
#

Whats a good 144hz monitor for a 3070 that doesn't break the bank

near perch
#

m27q

jovial gull
#

Doesn't matter and res you can pick

near perch
#

budget

jovial gull
#

250

near perch
#

bout to say

#

msi optic

#

used to have g27 it was nice

#

tn panel tho, very bad color recreation

jovial gull
#

Sweet

#

Gotcha

#

Thank you

summer obsidian
#

Yea I just bought a G242 for my 3070 yesterday.

slate hamlet
#

@jovial gull so you currently have a 3070?

#

spring for the m27q

#

seriously

summer obsidian
#

Also if B&H still has it the shipping was faster than amazon for me, but could easily vary between locations

slate hamlet
#

Thog don't care

#

if he got a 3070 he should get a 1440p

#

then get a 240hz clueless

summer obsidian
#

Personally I stuck with 1080p since I didn't have the space for 1440p and figured a 3070 will be able to do 1080p for much longer than it will 1440p. Even if it can do 1440p now since I don't plan to upgrade for another 4-5 years probably.

slate hamlet
#

well by then you can do 4k I guess

#

still can't believe 4k 120hz phone is a thing, that exists

summer obsidian
#

I feel like thats a huge waste of battery too, sine its a lot more power consumption on a device thats already limited by battery size

slate hamlet
#

it's the sony xperia whatever iirc

#

so I think they're honestly just selling it as a viewfinder for their already uber expensive professional cameras

leaden zodiac
#

can someone help me with formating my new hard drive it not showing up for me

#

Please

orchid berry
spring sequoia
#

@leaden zodiac yes

leaden zodiac
#

nvm i fixed it

slate hamlet
fading wyvern
#

27inches tho

slate hamlet
#

yeah

#

all that other stuff tho

fading wyvern
#

🤷‍♂️ ppi is a little more important imo, plus 1440p at that size is only a tiny bit more... gigabyte steveconfused

slate hamlet
#

is there a gigabyte 27" 1440p vesa hdr400 240hz ips?

#

for less than $400?

fading wyvern
#

Nah but hdr 400 is basically minimum and diminishing returns at 240hz to a point we’re not many people would notice the diff between 165 and 240

#

Idk just my opinion

warped basalt
#

Hdr 400 is bad

#

I have it and like it better with hdr off

slate hamlet
#

that's not... how that works

#

that's entirely dependent on your particular monitor's hdr implementation, icc profiles, srgb clamp etc

warped basalt
#

Oh

slate hamlet
#

yeah hdr is kind of a mess

#

I basically take hdr 400 to mean "it's bright"

summer obsidian
#

Maybe it's just me being weird but I honestly found my old monitor to be way too bright and hurt my eyes to look at so I always kept the brightness at like 50%

sage trail
#

kinda rough, even considering 1080p at 24" already has its issues

slate hamlet
#

distance being the factor

sage trail
#

yeah, but pixel density still bad

#

much easier to 24" 1080p than to figure out how to push your monitor farther away from your face

#

although tbh i wouldnt mind having a desk that deep

#

also HDR400 poggers, its not super impressive, but its a nice touch

#

not worth paying 5 extra dollars for tho lol

summer obsidian
#

Yea I mean I sit 3 feet away from my monitors personally and I don't mind it.

dusty island
#

Would it be worth to upscale on a 1440p monitor? Would i even really be notice a difference? I dont really know much about it, tbh, but I've really just ran at 2560x1440 for the entire time I've had this pc. opinions?

misty gyro
#

It depends on what you're playing, high action multiplayer games you want low res high fps, single player you can do high res low fps

dusty island
#

do most games support 3620x2036?

misty gyro
#

Most modern games will

dusty island
#

cool, thanks! appreciate it love_it

slate hamlet
#

You may notice some aliasing when upscaling 1440p

spring sequoia
misty gyro
#

Modern as in anything from the last 8-10 years unless the engine is ancient

grim flint
#

Does anyone know of a decent 4K 120 monitor that isn’t more then someone’s rent

fickle stag
#

i saw one for like

#

600

#

ish

mystic flower
#

what does hdr do?

slate hamlet
sick plume
slate hamlet
#

I mean, for 1080p yeah

#

actually for that many features, that price is "okay"

#

pretty sure that thing was 2 grand when it launched wasn't it...

radiant current
#

yeah if anyones taking gaming serious at a competitive level if not you can just grab a msi 1440 p 200 hz monitor or something but the monitor i just posted is the fastest E-SPORTS panel on the market and yeah they was going for around 1200 when they first dropped because they was so obsolete

#

have you made the jump from a true 240 from 144hz

#

theses a huge difference you can almost buy a cheap 240 for what a 144hz panel cost nowa days

slate hamlet
#

the fastest response time

#

in the world...

radiant current
#

its not just the hz that matters its the response time as well as if its g-sync or free-sync compatible

slate hamlet
#

which this is

#

and has both

#

really low ghosting rate too

radiant current
#

yes that is why i recommended it as the best gaming monitor on the market and if your computer can run 360 fps this monitor will carry it becase believe it or not your panel limits your fps to what the panel can do

slate hamlet
#

there are very few games that could take advantage of this

#

kinda funny to have it be gysync because of that fact

#

screen tearing will not ocurr

#

hz too high

radiant current
#

oh theres plenty all of your call of dutys cs-go Fortnite

#

valorant

#

even in a speedrun on minecraft the response time is almost a second faster then most average panels

sage trail
slate hamlet
#

I wish to use it

sage trail
#

and thats just average ppfear

slate hamlet
#

yeah that means some a little slower some a little faster

#

with only 3% bad ghosting

#

that's incredible

sage trail
#

yee but theres no standard deviation

slate hamlet
#

how did they do that with an ips

#

like that's incredible

sage trail
#

i thought the 360hz panels were TN?

slate hamlet
#

no it's nano ips

sage trail
#

pog

slate hamlet
#

it has good colors too

#

wth...

sage trail
#

240hz fast enough for me tbh

slate hamlet
#

too bad it's 1080p

#

500 NITS

#

AAH I WANT IT

sage trail
#

couldnt imagine trying to run 360hz at 1440p

slate hamlet
#

yeah first let's work on 240hz 1440p that isn't tn panel

sage trail
#

i personally would prioritize 1440p over 360hz

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i feel like theres so much more of an improvement there

slate hamlet
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oh there is a 1440p 240hz ips

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it's same price as this 360hz lmao

sage trail
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too much moneys for me kek

slate hamlet
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rtings puts vertical viewing angle into their score I see...

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don't care about that like, at all but I guess it makes sense to rate it

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but as a result it skews the ratings a bit

sage trail
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imagine dumping so much money into a gaming monitor and not looking at it head on

slate hamlet
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none of this matters anyway since can't get good gpu

sage trail
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like bruh

slate hamlet
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well I mean, I get horizontal viewing

sage trail
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1080 strugglin rn

slate hamlet
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but vertical?

sage trail
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horizontal and vertical both seem unimportant

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its not a large TV

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i couldnt imagine trying to play an FPS game with my screen at an angle

slate hamlet
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horizontal should be more important for like, media monitors

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the type of monitors that would be used as a secondary

sage trail
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yeah

slate hamlet
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2024 I be getting that 1440p monitor guys ahaha

celest lark
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Uh my screen is flickering but its not completely turning off when it flickers

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what is happening?

slate hamlet
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freesync issue

celest lark
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is there a fix?

slate hamlet
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run the games in fullscreen?

celest lark
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i do not believe its really happening in games

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just desktop

slate hamlet
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oh...

misty gyro
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Does your monitor have an overdrive function?

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If so set it to "quality" not "balanced"

summer obsidian
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Granted I also didn't spend a ton on my monitor either

sage trail
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yeah, point being no one cares about viewing angles when looking at 240hz+ monitors

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at 300+ dollars, viewing angles are gonna be good enough to simply be ignored

fading wyvern
slate hamlet
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oled

maiden wedge
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I am so torn between which monitor to choose, either the xb273u gx or the AW2721D any thoughts?

fading wyvern
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id prefer the alienware but thts pricey as hell

maiden wedge
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indeed

errant summit
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Should I turn on hdr?

warped basalt
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If you like how it looks sure

summer obsidian
wheat obsidian
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Just adding G-Sync to a monitors description adds $500

summer obsidian
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Yea, that's because all of the G-Sync panels go through some super rigorous testing by Nvidia unless things have changed. But at this point any freesync monitor with a displayport works with an Nvidia gpu

quartz sandal
summer obsidian
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That video

quartz sandal
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Ohh my b

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I didn't think they were individualy tested that much

summer obsidian
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I mean that may just be the initial batch and then after that its spot checking, I watched the video a long time ago and don't remember the exact specifics

quartz sandal
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I'm watching it now looks pretty decent

jagged bluff
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I have a friend who has a Samsung Essential Curved Moniter 24 60hz , and he has a Rtx 3060, is it a good mix ?

visual pilot
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Really should upgrade to 144hz at least

misty gyro
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1080p I assume? 3060 is a little overkill for that

jagged bluff
jagged bluff
misty gyro
quartz sandal
misty gyro
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Ok good, I was worried for a minute you were paying double what the monitor was worth

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$400 for that GPU is reasonable

jagged bluff
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Oh, i'm not the one who has it, i'm rocking on with a Gtx 1660

solemn gazelle
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any affordable displays for 1 ms at 120 Hz?

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+1080p

sick plume
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Reverse ghosting

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Not great

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On affordable displays atleast

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Blurbusters have a list iirc

solemn gazelle
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what would you reccomend then

sick plume
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Get a 120hz panel. The 1ms is basically only advertising

earnest zephyr
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Thinking about getting an asus rog strix pg329q.. 1440p 144hz hdr600, you guys think this is a good choice

summer obsidian
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Sadness versa arm mount is just the tiniest fraction of a millimeter too big

summer obsidian
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Guess I'm headed to the hardware store to buy a file for my bracket

storm pollen
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looking for a good budget 240 hz monitor. anyone know one for around 250 or cheaper even?

visual pilot