old-cooling

[marsh badge]

huh well

so the p is the better one now

[shrewd juniper]

Yeah

[civic valley]

yo guys i just found out thr Corsair 4000d airflow can only fit a 280 aio on top and idk how I feel about front mounting a 360 aio, is front mounting an aio safe to do? I was looking for 280 aios and Im looking for RGB and the Arctic liquid 2 280 doesn't have RGB, any other suggestions or should front mounting be fine? I'd hate to get air trapped in the pump

[mystic tiger]

front mounting is fine so long as the top of the rad is higher than the pump

[shrewd juniper]

Very much safe, just front mount it

[civic valley]

alright cool thanks fellas

[shrewd juniper]

Np

[oblique kiln]

quick question,

https://www.newegg.com/p/1YF-001H-000G9?item=1YF-001H-000G9&source=region&nm_mc=knc-googleadwords-pc&cm_mmc=knc-googleadwords-pc-_-pla-_-case+fans-_-1YF-001H-000G9&gclid=CjwKCAjw8KmLBhB8EiwAQbqNoEhhalp6JurivPiWmGJOmt7Zf4Md0Fu45-2_ZCn0CZSkdn7iIVjsvRoCY3EQAvD_BwE&gclsrc=aw.ds

wow, super small link

is that the rgb power or the fan power

[covert apex]

Corsair RGB connection for the HD and SP fans

[oblique kiln]

whats a hd and sp fan?

[covert apex]

Corsair HD120 or SP120

[oblique kiln]

only those ones?

[covert apex]

Correct

That RGB hub only works with those two

[oblique kiln]

so if i wanted the
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/CdhmP6/cooler-master-67-cfm-140-mm-fan-mfx-b4dn-14npa-r1
i would need a cooler master one?

[covert apex]

Those should use normal ARGB connectors so you can use any splitter or hub that is ARGB

[oblique kiln]

i need 7 argb 3-pins

[covert apex]

Then get an ARGB hub

[oblique kiln]

Ok

If splitters are cheaper, should i do splitters instead

[oblique kiln]

https://pcpartpicker.com/user/ScroppyIsDead/saved/#view=6b3h3C

Srry for ping but will that setup work?

[shrewd juniper]

why not just get arctic p12 rgbs?

[oblique kiln]

Cant find em in stock

Other than amazon

And there there was only 1 of them

[shrewd juniper]

Ahh

[steel forge]

I just got a USB fan and was wondering if it would be better to blow air into what I'm trying to cool or have it close to it blowing the hot air away?

[covert apex]

What are you trying to cool?

[steel forge]

my PSU

[covert apex]

How hot is your PSU getting? Which PSU is it?

[steel forge]

I don't know how to check the temps of my PSU. its a seasonic focus 850w gold

[covert apex]

Then why are you trying to cool it?

The PSU fan intakes air

It's normal for PSUs to get hot

[steel forge]

I have my pc facing sideways towards my monitor and the heat can be felt by my mouse hand.

[covert apex]

Make sure you have fan button pressed in at the back of your PSU

[steel forge]

yeah i turned hybrid mode off

[shrewd juniper]

thats a good psu i wouldnt worry about the temp of it, psus will have a threshold when they hit x % of usage or x degrees to turn on

[shrewd juniper]

why/how do you have the psu facing your monitor? o11d?

[steel forge]

My desk is tiny, only 19 inches wide.

[shrewd juniper]

ehh just pur your pc on the floor lo

how do you even game on that mousepad jesus

[low pumice]

High dpi

[shrewd juniper]

but still

[civic valley]

yo I'm still debating cooling for a 5800x. 360mm aio (front mounted with tubes at the top) or a 240mm aio mounted on top. looking at the Arctic liquid freeze 2 btw

been reading about front mounted aios with tubes at the top and apparently it can be kinda sketch sometimes or shorten the life but idk if a 240 is enough for the 5800x that's a hot cpu

[covert garden]

what tya';ll think about the be quiet pure rock 2

[quick hollow]

Need some tips. I currently have been experimenting with air flow. I set my 360m AIO fans to exhaust. Bottom and side are intake, but my temps have increased on my CPU. I have since set the bottom to exhaust, and top/side as intake temps decreased, GPU temp never changed. Max 55°c on both set ups.

What am I doing wrong?

[tender oak]

I recently installed a cooler master aio, I downloaded the rgb software and the fans quickly changed to rgb from an original static color but whenever I want to change them the software says theres no device detected

[shrewd juniper]

360 front mount any day

[shrewd juniper]

Nah as long as the top of the rad is above the cpu it's good

[shrewd juniper]

Overpriced af but okay cooler just not for the price

[shrewd juniper]

Where do you have the aio mounted? And do bottom intake, top exhaust, side/front intake

[shrewd juniper]

Try use an open source rgb software like open rgb, or your motherboards rgb software

[quick hollow]

AIO is top mounted. But if I set them to exhaust my cpu temp increases, meanwhile everything else is staying the same temp

[shrewd juniper]

Uhhhh

[shrewd juniper]

How, what case do you have

You need to have a green name first, dm me the image and i can post here

[quick hollow]

Lian-li 011D

[quick hollow]

I can post temp logs when I get home of the two different set ups

[shrewd juniper]

What are you using to test and read the temps, also do you have your fans on top or below the aio?

[quick hollow]

Below AIO. Im using AMDs Radeon software. I tried downloading Ryzen Master but everything I do including the regedit, it still missing drivers.

Fans are also set to a constant 1200rpm

[shrewd juniper]

Ahh well test it with hwinfo 64 instead and aida64 or occt or cinebench on loop for stress test. why would you do constant fan speed?

[quick hollow]

Tbh i don't really know

[quick hollow]

But I will certainly download those and run tests for both setups and see which gets the best results. Unfortunately I also realized I can't post pics yet

[shrewd juniper]

Yeah once your name turns green you can

[quick hollow]

@pato can I DM you a question since this isn't cooling related, or can I ping you a different topic? You very knowledgeable. Would like your opinion

[shrewd juniper]

Ofc what's up?

[merry sable]

I have a question about the ryzen 9 5950x my question is can u use an air cooler or does it have to be water cooler

[marsh badge]

I wouldn't recommend air, something like 280mm aio at least should be the min

360 is recommended

Something like arctic liquid freezer ii, lian li galahad, and ek aio should be good

[knotty sparrow]

If you really wanted to use air you could, but it'll be something massive that costs as much or more than liquid cooling

[merry sable]

ok sounds good thanks a bunch

[civic valley]

i thought i was set on the arctic liquid freezer 2 360 but a friend of mine got the lian li gallahad 360 and says its top notch, thoughts on these coolers?

[timid carbon]

galahad great for intel but arctic freezer is better on intel

both about the same on intel tbh

[civic valley]

im gonna be on ryzen

[timid carbon]

TL;DR arctic freezer for amd and whatever looks better to you for intel

[civic valley]

gotcha ty

[timid carbon]

np

[topaz blaze]

I put actual radiator fans on my radiators rather than the cheap rgb-riddled fans I've been using and now my GPU runs cooler than my ssd does in games
So if anybody was wondering, the answer is yes; your fan choice can matter quite a bit

[shrewd juniper]

theres no way your gpu is running at 28c in games

[topaz blaze]

It's dark souls 2 (so frame-capped at 60fps) at 1440p
It was also cold in my house when I took the photo
But yes, that is in game
That top left graph is fps, you can see it's sitting at 59fps

[shrewd juniper]

Ahh cool

https://tenor.com/view/ba-dum-tsss-drum-band-gif-7320811

[quick hollow]

Pato how should I mount my rad fans? Currently their "under" the rad, should they be on top for exhaust or are they fine where they are at?

[knotty sparrow]

Push vs Pull doesn't make a lot of difference either way

[vernal bear]

heyo is the cooler master ml240l v2 anygood ? for 80 bucks

[topaz blaze]

@vernal bear I have a friend who has the 120mm and his AMD wraith stealth cooler worked better so I'd avoid it

[vernal bear]

Is it good for overclock cause that’s what I do so idk if that fan would keep a oc cpu cool

[knotty sparrow]

Get the arctic liquid freezer II 240mm, should be about the same price and far better/quieter

[topaz blaze]

If the one I've come in contact with is any indication, then no. Because it performed worse than the AMD stock cooler on a stock speed six core processor

I agree with falcie
Arctic liquid freezer II

[shrewd juniper]

Depends for what cpu tbh, its fine for a ryzen 3/5 excluding 5600x, it can be a bit toasty with the 3600 etc as well with pbo but that's fixed by a 30$ cooler for example

[quick hollow]

Pato, I have since changed my fan set up to what you recommended again. Exhausting through rad. Fans are underneath the rad, not on top. Temps are amazing! CPU sits at 34c idle, GPU at 30c idle. Thank you!

[shrewd juniper]

Glad to help :)

[quick hollow]

@shrewd juniper Pato i've decided to change my case, due to the fact the Lian-Li is just too wide, and its my only non-corsair product at this point. Since it doesn't have bottom cutouts for fans should I expect a rise in GPU temps? Right now my GPU on idle is 27c, junct. temp is 31c (Sapphire Nitro+ 6700XT)

I plan on doing the same layout, top exhaust, side intake, but instead of the bottom being intake it be will the front. What are your thoughts?

new case is the Corsair 5000D Airflow

[shrewd juniper]

Idle temps mean nothing more than the temperature of your room pretty much but i would choose the p500a/p400a for bit smaller or 4000d airflow instead of 5000d airflow

5000d airflow is a meh price

And p500a better

[quick hollow]

So the only change I should expect is during gaming. Haven't logged those temps yet.

[shrewd juniper]

Yeah any time there's stress on the system

[quick hollow]

I shall expect, regardless of what I go with, a slight increase in temps then for GPU, since air isn't being blown directly at the GPU by 3 fans.

[shrewd juniper]

Ehh idk tbh, p500a/5000d airflow perform thermally better than o11d afaik

[light elm]

Sorry if this is the wrong chat for cooling/ build advice, but I just got a gigabyte rtx 3080 waterforce through the shuffle.... I have 0 experience with liquid cooling cooling outside of an old r9 295x2 AIO (which means nothing). Any recommendations for parts to set up a loop?
Is there a AIO(esk) solution that can be attached to the block or will I have to look into a pump, radiator, tubing, and reservoir?

[knotty sparrow]

Pretty sure those waterforce cards all come with an AIO already

Which one is it exactly? Link?

[light elm]

Check this out on @Newegg: GIGABYTE GeForce RTX 3080 GAMING OC WATERFORCE WB 10G (rev2.0) Graphics Card, WATERFORCE Water Block Cooling System, 10GB 320-bit GDDR6X, GV-N3080GAMINGOC WB-10GD Rev2.0 Video Card (LHR) https://www.newegg.com/gigabyte-geforce-rtx-3080-gv-n3080gamingoc-wb-10gd-rev2-0/p/N82E16814932478?Item=N82E16814932478&Source=socialshare&cm_mmc=snc-social-_-sr-_-14-932-478-_-10192021

The reviews had complaints that no other parts were included other than the card with attached block so I'm operating under the assumption that I need to get everything else

[knotty sparrow]

Yep that looks like it's just the block, cool but weird.

Nowhere does it say what size fittings... Ugh

[shrewd juniper]

Even gigabs page?

[knotty sparrow]

https://www.aquatuning.us/water-cooling/kits-systems-and-aios/diy-kits-cpu/22289/alphacool-eissturm-gaming-copper-30-3x120mm-complete-kit?c=23077

[light elm]

Thanks! Looks like a good deal. Hopefully the learning curve on installation isn't too steep, but im sure ill figure it out... not sure my ryzen 7 3700x needs watercooling... but it looks like this has the cooling block included so I might as well go all out.

[knotty sparrow]

Yeah there's other bundles on that site too with other blocks and radiators too if you want to take a look, then you just need a little more fittings and tubing

[vernal bear]

So what’s the best cooler for over clocking cause I’ve had so many people tell me so many different ones some are bad and some are good so idk what to choose lol I’ll go with water or air and I have am4

[knotty sparrow]

Arctic liquid freezer II, the largest your case can support

The offset cold plate is amazing on AM4

Unless you want to go for a custom loop

[topaz blaze]

or evga clc 240 :)

im totally not bias or anything

[shrewd juniper]

It's good but it's not the best especially cuz the fans are meh on it, also that will only beat the 120mm arctic lol

[topaz blaze]

no, im pretty sure temperature-wise it's about 2-4C warmer than the freezer ii 240mm, but I wouldnt be surprised if that was just because of the fans.

[knotty sparrow]

It's probably mostly the fans. I'd just get the arctic instead of buying a set of P12s separate lol

[topaz blaze]

Yea I only recommend the 240clc when it's on its 70USD sale

the freezer ii 240 usually hovers around 85USD

[knotty sparrow]

Then you can buy 2x P12 fans for $14 and it's the same price 🙃

[topaz blaze]

if someone wants to spend the extra money they can i guess

[golden rover]

Hey, so I have an HP ZBook Studio G3

with an i7-6700HQ and M1000M

and looking at intel XTU my cpu is basically constantly thermally throttling

Is there any way I can reduce my laptop's heat?

I know it has a really, really bad cooling system for such a high watt cpu

but I'm hoping there's at least a partial solution

At the moment I have it propped up in a way I hope lets it get more airflow

[sacred wren]

Cooling pad, liquid metal, however that works

[golden rover]

yeah, and do you know of any ways to like crank up the fans all the way?

This device can run its fans way faster

I know because it sounds like a jet engine when it does

but it does that pretty rarely considering the heat it reaches

I would kinda like to just leave it at 100%

[sacred wren]

I mean some laptops come with softwares for them

Other than that idts

Msi afterburner doesn't work on laptop fans

[cloud lodge]

Dumb question. Are there aios for gpus and are they "good"?

Also what's a good aio for the 5600x. I know it doesn't really need one. But something not too expensive?

Was looking at this one

https://www.amazon.com/ARCTIC-Liquid-Freezer-All-One/dp/B07WNJCVNW/ref=mp_s_a_1_8?dchild=1&keywords=360mm+aio&qid=1634775258&sr=8-8

[knotty sparrow]

Not really dumb, they exist but there's not a universal bracket for the Nvidia 30 series so it's hard to find something that works. Your best bet is probably to get a DIY Alphacool kit from Aquatuning and a GPU block that fits. It'd be around $300-400 for the lot.

[knotty sparrow]

The 240mm version of that is perfect, the 5600X isn't as hot as the higher models because lower power limit.

[civic valley]

for a 5600x i would say a 240 or 280mm aio would suffice just fine but you could go for the 360 just to keep it extra chilly, arctic freezer is a good brand i hear

[cloud lodge]

Also does the motherboard matter when looking for AIOS

[low pumice]

only really for rgb and for edge cases like running out of fan headers for whatever reason

[cloud lodge]

For the cpu

Gotcha

[low pumice]

well other than socket and mounting ofc

if it only comes with lga115x mounting don't expect it to fit on am4

[cloud lodge]

Couldn't care less about rgb. That's sorta what grabbed my attention of the freezer

[knotty sparrow]

I'd much rather have better performance than RGB too, and I don't want to spend extra for both

[cloud lodge]

Exactly

[rose isle]

280 and 360 are about the same in performance afaik

[shrewd juniper]

Uhhh no 360 is definitely better than 280

[timid carbon]

Look overclocking i broke sippy a lil

[shrewd juniper]

I saw lol, even sippy get mediocre bin rev e XD

[timid carbon]

leave it to sippy to think its a good bin but actually sike

sippy binning luck is awful

[rose isle]

oki

[shrewd juniper]

Sippy binning luck in the bin

[unique lily]

Voxenfree#0428 has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

Voxenfree#0428 has been kicked

Reason: Too many infractions

[shrewd juniper]

The cooler dell will use on an 11700 on the left, vs a i5 4590 on the right

[knotty sparrow]

That slug on the bottom tho

Thicc

[shrewd juniper]

Thicc slugg but rest of cooler went on a diet

[topaz blaze]

oh hey i watched that video too

the dawid budget one right?

[shrewd juniper]

Yee

https://youtu.be/pvdLey-8HTY

[topaz blaze]

i loved that video lol

it seems to work as an excellent side panel lol

[knotty sparrow]

Made that MSI case actually stop thermal throttling

[low pumice]

It looked like it was just made for that case, it fit perfectly lol

but I also got a laugh out of the b roll changing from this

to this

[shrewd juniper]

Lol

[knotty sparrow]

Just got my 6x P12 fans, should be a HUGE improvement over these old dying fans that can't go over 800 rpm

[low pumice]

Hey hey hey that Corsair 500mm fan was doing like 300rpm when it did that to the MSI case

Rpm do be deceptive

[shrewd juniper]

It's also like 4.2ish times the size xD

[brisk rain]

d15s is big

[knotty sparrow]

I should have switched my fans ages ago. I'm a full 12 degrees cooler with a full set of p12 fans. Completely worth the $36.

I have every fan on max and I can't hear them at all

[covert garden]

guys i need help

my aio is making a really weird noise

idk what's happening

[knotty sparrow]

Possibly the pump failing. Or is it more of a grinding sound? Could be a fan then

[timid carbon]

it was air bubble

guy spammed in may channels

[rose isle]

what did you have before?

[knotty sparrow]

A bunch of old fans from previous computers. The newest ones were from my cooler master AIO and they would rattle any time they dropped below 60%

[quick hollow]

Can't decide where to mount my AIO. Corsair 5000D Airflow

Either front or top. Will have 12 fans in total in the build

[knotty sparrow]

Top as exhaust is slightly better than front, but it doesn't make that much difference

[topaz blaze]

Just use a 500mm corsair fan as a side panel as demonstrated by Steve

[golden rover]

Will the Cooler Master Hyper 212 Black Edition keep the i5-11600k reasonably cool?

[shrewd juniper]

Please don't pay like 45$ for that cooler, also stock sure, but overclocking(whole point of 11600k) get peerless assassin 120

[loud plaza]

Fast answers go: Should I get 3 Lian Li ST120s as exhaust or 2 Lian Li SL140s as exhaust? If 3, I'm going to have 2 120mms on the top and 1 120mm at the back. If 2, only top exhaust.

P400A is the case, just swapping fans

[brisk rain]

What do you have for intake?

[loud plaza]

Lian LI AL120s

[brisk rain]

Three of them?

[loud plaza]

Yes

right here

[shrewd juniper]

Why not just use the stock p400a fans as exhaust, you don't need all the fan slots filled anyway

[shrewd juniper]

Holy jesus the razer 140mm fan is 50$

[timid carbon]

https://tenor.com/view/everything-is-fine-itsfine-burning-flame-my-life-going-so-far-gif-5182223

[shrewd juniper]

https://tenor.com/view/alvin-and-the-chipmunks-simon-no-it-is-absolutely-not-absolutely-not-no-gif-21878723

[timid carbon]

The sad thing is that its actually gonna sell well

Id actually recommend nzxt fans over razer

[shrewd juniper]

AT LEAST THEY'RE CHEAPER FFS

[timid carbon]

tfw someone makes a product thats more overpriced than nzxt

[shrewd juniper]

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/h2CD4D/nzxt-aer-rgb-2-9119-cfm-140-mm-fan-hf-28140-b1 same fan 22$ difference wth

[marsh badge]

oh also

razer's fan hub is

50 bucks a pop

[shrewd juniper]

https://tenor.com/view/elmo-falls-pass-out-faints-gif-8604193

[timid carbon]

^

[loud plaza]

I was doing that, but the stock fans don't have dampeners hence they rattle alot more as exhausts

Plus I cant really add on Noctua dampeners since they lowkey don't fit

[shrewd juniper]

Ehh they shouldn't afaik, if you screwed them in evenly on all 4 corners shouldn't be a problem

[rustic onyx]

Don't modify the P400A airflow. Its ideal configuration is 3 intake passive exhaust

[shrewd juniper]

Never said they had to do all slots

[unique lily]

iamAngeloNuqui#7721 has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

iamAngeloNuqui#7721 has been kicked

Reason: Too many infractions

[loud plaza]

Yeah I did a few times, it oddly rattles alot

[loud plaza]

Ideal for cpu, not ideal for gpu

[topaz blaze]

are squas daisy chainable?

i only need to buy 2

and i dont feel like grabbing an entire controller since the meshlicious only supports 2

[covert garden]

Hey guys

One of my fans that came with my lian li 240 aio stopped spinning recently and so i tried spinning it and it wouldnt

So then i lifted up the turbing part a bit and that got it to spin

But now whenever its spinning it sounds like its scraping against something

Or like a rusty barring

What can i do to fix this

[quick hollow]

Replace your fan, or the motor will burn out eventually

[covert garden]

rip

its barely like 2 months old

[shrewd juniper]

Rma the aio

[timid carbon]

nah sippy had same issue

#building-and-recc-chat

[shrewd juniper]

Ahh yeah

[quick hollow]

Just loaded up GTA5 LSPDFR, log temps and shit, but started hearing this high pitched buzzing sound coming from inside the case. I stopped the fans on the GPU to see if it was coil whine, but it appears to be coming from the pump. What could this issue be?

iCUE isn't allowing the pump to drop below 2678rpm

i have disabled Asus QFAN control, but that didn't work

[quick hollow]

Also, if I pause the game, it goes away, if I un-pause it comes back.

[shrewd juniper]

Well you want your pump to be going at 100% your fan is fine that should be able to go up and down

[shrewd juniper]

Also coil wine is not to do with fans

Most likely is coil wine if it's an eee sound and stops while game paused

[storm topaz]

guys is the deepcool gammaxx l240 v2 a good AIO??? I am getting it for 50 CAD brand new, so I was wondering if its worth it. Cooler master hyper 212 black edition is the same price, so which one cools better?

[marsh badge]

i wouldn't go cheap on aio

[quick hollow]

Its coming from the pump. I ALT+Z to open radeon software and it gets loud with a buzzing sound ill have to take a video of it. Its never done that before, which is whats confusing me. Its a Corsair iCUE H150i RGB Elite Capellix

[shrewd juniper]

The 212 line is almost never worth it, but that's gonna outperform any 50 cad cooler that you can get for new anyway

[shrewd juniper]

Yeah do take a vid that would help understand

[topaz blaze]

gurgling noises

https://tenor.com/view/leaking-leak-water-leaking-water-leak-pipe-leak-gif-12150944

[marsh badge]

[storm raft]

Any good corsair fans you guys can recommend?

[knotty sparrow]

Why corsair specifically?

[shrewd juniper]

I whole heartedly cannot "recommend" corsair fans

[storm raft]

Ok

Nah just to go with the vibe

[knotty sparrow]

There's way better fans for way less money

[sharp elm]

I idle from 45-75

All my programs are telling me different cpu temps

[unique lily]

AlienzGalaxy#3979 has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

AlienzGalaxy#3979 has been kicked

Reason: Too many infractions

[storm topaz]

i do not have a pump fan header on my motherboard. I am going to be installing an aio, so i think i should plug the fan header of the actual cooler into the cpu fan header. will the aio run fine this way?

[knotty sparrow]

The fan should go on the cpu fan header, then the pump can go into another header. Set that other header so it runs at 100% all the time, that's basically all a pump header does.

[shrewd juniper]

You sure you're idle?

[shrewd juniper]

Use hwinfo64

[covert apex]

That is a massive variation

[sharp elm]

What is that

My motherboard program tells me 40-48 idle

But then all the other ones and bios tells me something very high

[shrewd juniper]

Temp reader that's actually accurate

Bios isn't fair idle temps as in Windows there's no complete idle, something is always happening

[sharp elm]

Could it be my thermal paste? I opened the tube about 3-4 months ago and i been using it pretty slowly

[knotty sparrow]

It doesn't really dry out until you apply heat for a long time

I keep the same paste for a few years

[sharp elm]

After making no differences to my system but installing it, now it reads 35-40 on all my programs

[sharp elm]

Nvm its back up to 70

[alpine fox]

anyone got any cheap but not garbage RGB fan reccomendations?

[knotty sparrow]

How cheap is "cheap" because the cheapest RGB fan is $12 each?
3 pin or 4 pin RGB? The cheapest non-garbage one right now is a 4 pin and is $15.

[shrewd juniper]

Could be a bad mount, your pump might not be 100% all the time

[dry arch]

@delicate prawn idk if u already got your answer but: https://www.amazon.com/ID-COOLING-SE-914-XT-Addressable-Connector-Top-Cover/dp/B08PYJZ4RY

[sharp elm]

Made sure its on correctly and in the bios i made it 100% at any temp since its plugged into the cpu fan header

[shrewd juniper]

That's very odd, are you seeing cpu usage spikes when the temps jump btw?

[sharp elm]

Not really but i think i found the problem. Rad fans were only at 800rpms

But are your fans this fast?

[shrewd juniper]

Software glitch probs, fans going that fast will make your pc take off

[sharp elm]

What if thats what i want, helicopter and pc in one

[eager moth]

been encountering an issue where my 5800x temps are insanely higher than normal after AFK farming for a number of hours, full reboot didn't seem to help. talking 90C and throttling under moderate load and 75-78C at 1-9% utilization. only started happening recently. locked at 1.25 volts, PBO is off. any advice?

[low pumice]

Tbh you should probably just leave it stock without manual voltage to start

What cooler?

5800x hotspots are pretty hard to cool

[rain patio]

can anyone help me pick out parts for a full water cool setup for my lian li 011 dynamic case with ryzen cpu and 3080

[eager moth]

galahad 360, I'm aware of the questionable pressure due to the mounting hardware but paste application is fine and like I said the problem only started after I began AFK farming for extended hours

for what it's worth, I turn the graphics settings down to the lowest options and cap FPS at 30 to reduce prolonged GPU strain. the farming leaves a lot of entities on the ground, and this past session was about 18 hours

[marsh badge]

Doing manual voltage could be why it's running so bad

[eager moth]

how, exactly? and why would it only be a problem now?

[marsh badge]

Well, cause manual voltage locks it to that voltage only

While auto dynamically adjusts according to load

[quick hollow]

Should I be paying attention more to GPU Junc. Temp or focus more on the Edge temp?

[sharp elm]

Im at the point where i have to prob flip my rad fans

Opening one game with wallpaper engine on ultra puts it at almost 80

[low pumice]

Bleach has practically the exact same issue lel, I'd say it's a fairly normal thing, and I would make it stock, manual OC on zen 3 isn't usually the best idea for daily

[sharp elm]

Do ryzen cpu’s come out the box with stock OC

[low pumice]

snippet from convo w bleach

[low pumice]

uh, they boost, like Intel chips will, above base clock, if that's what you're talking about...?

[sharp elm]

Ahh okay, i just want to bring my temps down some how

Should i be worried if my 5950x goes past 85c?

[marsh badge]

Not really

As long as it doesn't throttle, it's fine

AMD even says 90c is ok for that

[sharp elm]

Im just not use to having my cpu running so hot

[knotty sparrow]

Junction temp is the memory, edge temp is on the core.

[quick hollow]

Okay, which is more important to worry about. AMD says Junction is fine up to 110c, but I'd like to keep it cool. I can't remember what my core was at during this.

Sapphire Nitro+ 6700XT

[knotty sparrow]

Edge temps will affect boost a lot more than memory

As long as memory is below 104 it won't throttle

[quick hollow]

I seen the junc temp shoot up to about 72c on PC building sim. Meanwhile clock was probably around 55-60c. Im big into cooling all of a sudden. Just want my parts to last a long time

[marsh badge]

pc buildng sim isn't accurate at all in temps btw

Don't use it as a reference for irl

[quick hollow]

I'm not. When I loaded the game it my GPU shot up to 72c on junc

[marsh badge]

ah

[quick hollow]

Before it was at 33c

[marsh badge]

It's fine

[shrewd juniper]

Use pbo and negative voltage offset curve thing

[crimson heart]

I am looking for either Air or AIO cooling for a 5800X that I want to overclock.

My son will likely want RGB but I am open to less flashy options too. I would prefer to stay under $150.

I am also fine waiting for sales if there is an AIO that performs well but is just over the $150.

[sacred wren]

100% aio

[low pumice]

If you want best performance, Freezer ii 360mm if it fits your case

[sacred wren]

360mm probably

5800x gets very hot on stock

Let alone ocing

[crimson heart]

So I see like 3 or 4 versions of that cooler. Do they all perform the same its just RGB, ARGB or no RGB?

[low pumice]

There's just a normal freezer ii, freezer ii rgb, and freezer ii argb, the difference is in the fans being the normal p12, the p12 rgb, and the p12 argb

Difference in performance should theoretically be minimal but eh

rgb makes things run hotter

[crimson heart]

Why hotter?

I ask as someone who built PCs a while ago when GRB wasn't really a thing.

I could maybe get by not doing RGB for the AIO but buying a case with RGB fans up front.

[low pumice]

Probably negligible in most cases, but there are real instances where, for example, the Corsair CX-F PSU, where the argb fan puts extra load on the 5v rail (While most things use the 12v rail, argb uses the 5v rail), which makes the PSU run hotter, and less efficient, as most PSUs aren't really designed to cool the 5v rail, and while the CX-F is theoretically capable of a 80+ Silver efficiency rating, it is in reality just a 80+ Bronze PSU. Source here, Johnyguru is a decently well known guy who used to review PSUs and works on Corsair PSUs.

but well, in most cases, it should just be negligible

a strip of rgb pulling like 2w shouldn't add too much heat to a fan or cause the fan to perform much worse

[crimson heart]

Could I get by with a Noctua Chromax Black if I wanted to do air cooling? Any air cooling recommendations or should I stay away from those for this CPU?

[marsh badge]

It's aio only for ocing with 5800X

[sacred wren]

Don't bother with an air cooler

5800x is as hot as the 5950x

[low pumice]

Noctua coolers are great, and will still be good for a stock 5800x, but I wouldn't expect much from it if you're planning on OCing

[crimson heart]

I see they have a 420 cooler also. Seems like that would be a hard fit for most cases. Does it cool better?

[low pumice]

Just a tiny bit, what case do you have?

[crimson heart]

I haven't picked one up yet. I am picking up parts as they go on sale/become available. I only have the Motherboard, CPU and GPU so far.

[shrewd juniper]

I'd grab some ballistix 3600, hardly ever on sale but they're usually the cheapest and the best ram for ryzen

And p500a can front mount the 420mm

Not many other cases can

But a lot can do 360mm

[sacred wren]

H510 tho, it's so good

That's sarcasm afeils, do not buy the h510

[crimson heart]

so with P500a I would need to mount the water up front and move the 3 included fans to the top/back fan locations. Seems like a decent case and with that configuration everything should be well cooled.

Are there better cases for the money if I want to go the 360mm route for the AIO?

[shrewd juniper]

If you got the 420mm, the 360mm you can top mount afaik

[shrewd juniper]

You can get p400a for bit cheaper and front mount the 360

[low pumice]

Just keep in mind top mount best aio mount, and P500a is just a great case in general

[crimson heart]

so if I go with as 360 AIO I am not able to grab a P400a. I like the price but the features on the P500a are very nice.

[low pumice]

(front mount still good, just slightly sub par from top mount)

[crimson heart]

when you say subpar do you mean temps might be higher, airflow restricted or pump working harder?

[shrewd juniper]

It's just slightly not as good, doubt you'll see a difference in temps just pump really

[low pumice]

Not as good for the pump

Air pocket things

[wet flicker]

hello?

[brisk rain]

Hello

[wet flicker]

i had a question about an aio cooler i recieved yesterday

[shrewd juniper]

Well what's the question

[wet flicker]

so i installed everything correcly but the fans it came with arent displaying the RGB correctly, so i removed them and checked the connections and tried a different RGB header port on my MB but it was still the same issue

[shrewd juniper]

What aio? What motherboard

[wet flicker]

NZXT Kraken z73 RGB cooler with Asus prime x-570

i left one fan in as my exhaust fan and it does the same thing

[shrewd juniper]

Not 100% sure but with nzxt you may need to use a proprietary hub and connect it to a usb header

As the nzxt site is giving no detail on rgb pins

[wet flicker]

so the same as corsair uses for their rgb fans but for NZXT fans

or the fan controller for NZXT i was able to control changing the colors through my armoury crate appe

[burnt magnet]

If you put a fan on a passive cooler with an aggressive fan curve...
Is it passive aggressively cooling?

[knotty sparrow]

I'd say aggressively passive cooling

(Yes it's active at that point instead of passive, I know someone will try to correct me)

[marsh badge]

Yeah

It is active cooling at that point

[twilit abyss]

^

[cloud lodge]

Anyone know of some fan cable extensions? My bottom front case fan cable doest reach the pwm without looking jank as heck

[shrewd juniper]

A cable splitter/ the cooler master no external power pwm hub will be longer and probably just as cheap, i just wouldn't use all 4 slots of it

[keen ermine]

what would be an efficient way to cool my laptop better?

[golden rover]

there may be software compatible with your device that will allow you to control fan speed

kinda depends on what device you have, but I wouldn't be the one to ask

or you can get a laptop cooling pad

[keen ermine]

i have nitrosense to control fan speed but still gets to 95c+

i have tried undervolting but intel are assholes and wont let me adjust voltages

[golden rover]

idrk, I would get a laptop cooling pad, that's what I'm getting for mine, in the meantime I actually prop my laptop up so it gets more air into the fans, actually makes a significant difference

but again, it kinda depends on your device and how cooling is set up

[keen ermine]

i will probs get a cooling pad late next year

when i have a desk

[shrewd juniper]

Undervolt your cpu and gpu and a laptop stand/cooling pad, and until you get a desk, hard surfaces are better than soft surfaces

[shrewd juniper]

Is it actually controlling the fan speed better than stock tho? Also what software did you try and use to undervolt

[keen ermine]

i tried throttlestop, quickcpu and xtu

and nitrosense is the default for acer nitro laptops

[shrewd juniper]

Ahh

And it just didn't work or?

Just doesn't let you do any changes?

[keen ermine]

didnt actually apply the changes on quickcpu and wouldnt let me adjust on the other two

[shrewd juniper]

Shame

[keen ermine]

yea

thats why i dislike intel atm

[shrewd juniper]

Have you tried undervolting gpu?

[keen ermine]

gpu doesnt go above 60c

[shrewd juniper]

Hmm

[keen ermine]

must be a bottleneck thing

[shrewd juniper]

Probably just the fact laptop cpus are designed to go up to 90c ish

[unique lily]

TheYeetStreet#7946 has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

[keen ermine]

or that the fan curves on nitrosense are bad

[shrewd juniper]

Well you've changed the fan curve right?

[waxen vault]

when watee cooling should the radiator upward have intake or outake fan?

[languid gale]

Radiators should almost always be set to have the fans pushing air through it

[shrewd juniper]

If your radiator is on the top of your case, you want to have the fans set to exhaust

[languid gale]

The hell is this

[shrewd juniper]

Icegiant

[low pumice]

It's an ice giant thermosiphon

Or whatever

[knotty sparrow]

Isn't that the hybrid TEC cooler?

[azure crown]

no

[cold gorge]

Im thinking of getting some quieter fans then what i have now what are some good fans that are relatively quiet

[marsh badge]

Arctic P12

Best value too

If you're not restricted by money, noctua chromax lel

[eternal flint]

Bad cooling, bad ventilation so yea

[marsh badge]

Not all laptops are bad

lel

[eternal flint]

True

But majority are

There are goods one out there ngl

[shrewd juniper]

Not even that, laptop are designed to work that high heat wise so they can boost as much as possible

[short glacier]

No it basically a entire refrigeration system that's driven by heat (this is a massively over simplified explanation)

From my understanding it operates on similar principals to a Absorbtion FCU chiller

This https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=0R84hLprO5s

But mini

[uneven spruce]

Corsair H100i rgb pro xt good for ryzen 9500?

[marsh badge]

Did you mean 5900X? Also no, it's meh

Get lian li galahad, liquid freezer ii rgb or ek aio instead

[uneven spruce]

Thinking of buying a prebuilt pc from ironside

[marsh badge]

Pics?

Send em in my dm, or link works too

I'll continue it there

The specs look good, but

The price is absurd

Lemme fine ones on newegg

@uneven spruce Gotta ask, what are ya gonna use it for? And how much budget ya got?

[uneven spruce]

Around same budget as the other one ANd im going to use it for gaming

[marsh badge]

Aight, gaming

[uneven spruce]

gotta look for an upgade for my laptop

[marsh badge]

https://www.newegg.com/abs-ala263/p/N82E16883360177

I would do this

[uneven spruce]

Ooo

[marsh badge]

I do have other choice but cpu is worse

11900k

Tho gpu is 3090 but it costs more

https://www.newegg.com/abs-ali556/p/N82E16883360186

[uneven spruce]

Well i dont need a pc designed to kill god
Its Very nice

[marsh badge]

Alright, then the first one is perfect

Saves you big money

https://www.newegg.com/abs-ala268/p/N82E16883360202?itemPosition=1-12

How about this too?

3080 isn't much slower than the ti

And 5800x is basically most you need for games, no need to go up

Cheapest one outta the bunch, 3k

[shrewd juniper]

Honestly no point going 3090 for gaming

[shrewd juniper]

This one is way nicer imho

Way better cpu, cheaper

[marsh badge]

ye

I'm slow lol

So I eventually bumped into the best one

[shrewd juniper]

Yeah it's fairly expensive 3080 build tho

[uneven spruce]

Just hoping the cpu dosent go over 102 C

[marsh badge]

It's fine

Don't worry

[uneven spruce]

My laptop is not fine

[shrewd juniper]

https://www.newegg.com/abs-ali514/p/N82E16883360114?item=N82E16883360114&itemPosition=1-12&exactIndex=0 this is best bet for 3080 pc

[marsh badge]

The prebuilt will be able to cool itself down

[shrewd juniper]

Yeah it won't reach that bad lol

[marsh badge]

hmn, well pato the 5800x does do better

but that 10700kf is considerably cheaper

500 less is no chump change

[shrewd juniper]

Yep

[marsh badge]

i agree with the 2599 one then

it's a no brainer

[uneven spruce]

Bruh site is not available in eu

[marsh badge]

oh eu

[shrewd juniper]

Yeah not worth more than 100 to go from 10700kf to 5800x

Ohh

[marsh badge]

pato can easily help ya with that

i'll leave it to him lol

[shrewd juniper]

What country

[uneven spruce]

Denmark

[shrewd juniper]

Uhh what sites you got there for tech/pcs?

Also what's your budget in native currency

[uneven spruce]

Dkk

Sites i dont know they overcharge

[shrewd juniper]

What?

Can you give a number?

[uneven spruce]

Danish kroner

oh

[shrewd juniper]

Yes

[uneven spruce]

around 24000dkk

[shrewd juniper]

Okay

[shrewd juniper]

I'll brb boutta have dinner then i can finish helping

[shrewd juniper]

@uneven spruce https://sharkgaming.dk/max-bite-bloodlust I'd get this but with these modifications

[karmic root]

does anyone know a good aio for a intel 12th gen cpu

[azure crown]

an aio that has an lga 1700 mounting bracket probably

https://www.xda-developers.com/cpu-coolers-socket-lga-1700/

stumbled across this

cooler manufacturers that plan to offer kits to use your old coolers on new boards

but thats about all the info thats out now

https://www.newegg.com/arctic-cooling-liquid-freezer-ii-240-liquid-cooling-system/p/N82E16835186247

pick a size

request mounting bracket

[golden rover]

Intel should just ship adapters with their processors

Would make our life a lot easier

[marsh badge]

I don't see any issue with it

[formal flume]

Could the vroom 5 cpu cooler miss any parts?

I've got a heatsink and a fan, I need these special brackets that can mount the fan on the heatsink

[knotty sparrow]

Never heard of "vroom 5" but what cpu are you attaching to?

[formal flume]

Ryzen 5 3600, yesterday I was building my pc

[formal flume]

Sorry I meant vetroo v5

[knotty sparrow]

Reread your message and it makes more sense this time. The clip for the fan to attach to is missing? You could just use zip/twist ties and contact them for the parts

[vagrant mesa]

hey guys im gonna buy a new pc case and it will have 6 fans with it(2 arent rgb), i already have a fan splitter for 2 fans,will i need more slots for it and should i get a rgb splitter?

[formal flume]

I'll try that when I am in London

[stark mason]

can the lighting affects on fans be turned off?

[knotty sparrow]

On rgb fans, yes

If they're the old style led fan that only has one color, no

[stark mason]

ARCTIC Alpine 12 LP CPU Cooler, this any good?

[shrewd juniper]

Nope it's basically a stock cooler, what cpu you tryna cool?

[stark mason]

still looking at 1 of i7s

[shrewd juniper]

What i7?

[stark mason]

probably the i7-10700k, probably not the i7-11700k

unless theres a real good sale soon

[shrewd juniper]

I'd recommend the 10700f or 56000x if you already have a gpu, but a peerless assasin 120 for 10700 or frost spirit 140 for 5600x

You could always go better cooling and get like a arctic liquid freezer ii or ek rgb aio or lian li galahad 240mm or more

[stark mason]

so the "f" means fan included?

what does the "k" mean?

[shrewd juniper]

F means no integrated graphics, k means overclockable if it's on a z series motherboard

[stark mason]

👍

[crimson heart]

https://www.bestbuy.com/site/msi-mag-coreliquid-360r-240mm-radiator-aio-argb-cpu-liquid-cooler-rotating-cap-design-3x-120mm-argb-pwm-fans/6462863.p?skuId=6462863

How does this compare to other AIO 360 mm Coolers under $150

[shrewd juniper]

Mediocre, the best 3 aios are arctic, lian li and ek rgb

Although arctic wins on ryzen with offset mount

[sour basalt]

I know I asked this before long ago but I forgor 💀
What's the best CPU cooler to oc an i5 11600k as much as possible? Without breaking the bank

40-60 usd is my preference but my max is 100 USD

[knotty sparrow]

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/c4MTwP/arctic-liquid-freezer-ii-240-563-cfm-liquid-cpu-cooler-acfre00046a

[shrewd juniper]

A decent budget option is peerless assassin 120 it's around 50$ but fal is correct, the Arctic liquid freezer would be superior

[fickle jolt]

i need to switch my evga 360mm clc

[shrewd juniper]

That's a good aio too, it just needs some Arctic p12s instead of stock fans

[fickle jolt]

thats what i use

[shrewd juniper]

Good

[sour basalt]

I really like this one, watched a review on it and I'll most likely get this.

Thanks for the help y'all

[shrewd juniper]

Np

[golden rover]

For those of you with trashy laptop cooling systems, aka 50% of laptops in existence

who have constant thermal throttling

laptop cooling pads really are that good

I'm running the cpu stress test on intel XTU

and it runs wayyyyyyyyy better with the cooling pad on

despite the fact that this cooling pad costed 15$

[tropic hare]

dont click the link

[golden rover]

what was it to?

looked like spam something or another

I'm surprised the person/possibly bot didn't get kicked

[crimson heart]

Does anyone have any experience with the Arctic Liquid Freezer II RGB with included RGB controller? I ask because I don't know how RGB works in modern builds. I will likely be getting a P500A with the RGB fans. I will be connecting this all up to a MSI MPG B550 GAMING EDGE WIFI Motherboard. Its my understanding it has RGB headers. Link below for the Cooler. How does this cooler compare to the A-RGB model which is a couple dollars cheaper.
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B08WRNBVTK?tag=pcpapi-20&linkCode=ogi&th=1

[marsh badge]

Just get the aRGB one

It offers more lighting adjustability

Also yeah the liquid freezer II is a great AIO, one of the top performers while being surprisingly cheap

[crimson heart]

Do I need a controller at all with the number of fans I mentioned and the parts listed above.

[marsh badge]

Hm

Well you might need to

Depending on the fans on the case

[rose isle]

that motherboard has plenty of RGB and ARGB headers. you wont suffer for connectors. but I would definitely use any controllers/hubs that come with your hardware.

[topaz blaze]

and evga clc 👀

[shrewd juniper]

well needs replacement fans so meh

[topaz blaze]

not really

"need" is a bit of an overstatement

[shrewd juniper]

Needs to, to be considered a top tier one

[shrewd juniper]

Okay so i got a pack of p12s, forgot to check if they were pwm, plugging into my pwm hub is running them at like 1600 rpm idle, am i doing something wrong or am i not supposed to do that. I have already set to dc in bios

[topaz blaze]

nah

[knotty sparrow]

Hubs that run on separate power only use the 3rd and 4th pins, tachometer and pwm. They interpret the pwm signal and distribute it, reporting speed through tachometer. They don't use either the 12v or ground pin.
In other words, use splitters instead of a hub (p12 is what, 0.14A), a dc hub, or return the fans.

[shrewd juniper]

Hmm yeah might just return and get the pwm ones as i have had hub a while, my mobo has one case fan header

[knotty sparrow]

One header can support 7 full speed p12 fans

Assuming they're the 0.14A like mine

[shrewd juniper]

dont wanna risk that also lot of splitters will probs return ;-;

[knotty sparrow]

You'd only need 2x 4 way splitters to max a header, and it's not really a risk since that's below the rated 1A.
Exchanging is the cleaner option of course.

[shrewd juniper]

Time to cry return package

[glacial spindle]

I almost finished misc. parts build

and wondering if it's better to have top three fans blowing in or out of the case

was thinking running them as exhaust would probably be best but with the AIO as exhaust & rear fan as exhaust, that's probably some pretty negative pressure

& since it's 5000D & I added airflow panels, was thinking it's so open I might get decent flow into the case from the top

[knotty sparrow]

That radiator looks like intake to me

[glacial spindle]

it's blowing out

it would have frames visible

I've installed that thing in like 5 different places lol

[knotty sparrow]

Oh I see now, it's the side not front

[glacial spindle]

I guess I could flip rear fan & have rear intake & front intake

& then top & side exhaust?

[knotty sparrow]

I feel bad for your poor gpu

[glacial spindle]

eh 3060s don't get thaaat hot

but ya it probably won't have great temps vertically mounted

but I'm trying to sell this thing so looks & function are about equally as important lol

[knotty sparrow]

I'd say top and rear exhaust and set the fan curve so the front goes faster

[glacial spindle]

plus the LEDs I custom installed in the 3060 just don't show horizontally

[knotty sparrow]

A little negative pressure might be good for that gpu

[glacial spindle]

hmm good point I didn't even think of that

[knotty sparrow]

The radiator is also restricting airflow

[glacial spindle]

the rad will probably eat up a lot of the front intake air since it's right there like that

oh so you mean like there won't be that much negative pressure cuz the air is bottlenecked going thru rad?

it has 10700K so thermals shouldn't be that wild

not 10900K levels at least

[knotty sparrow]

Exactly
That's like having 3 intake and 2 exhaust from the restricted flow

[glacial spindle]

& rear you say leave as exhaust?

[knotty sparrow]

Yeah

[glacial spindle]

5000D is kind of a meh case tbh

unless you love 120mm fans

[knotty sparrow]

Because the gpu will blow some out the back anyway, you don't want to suck that back in

[glacial spindle]

it says you can only fit 2x 140s on top & front

I bet I could make 3x140 fit

but again, trying to sell so no custom work this time lol

[knotty sparrow]

You might need to modify it to do that

[glacial spindle]

ya for sure

originally I was gonna shove some 200s in there

it was possible with some grindin & drillin

but nah

keep everything stock specs

I could always run tests on top intake v. top exhaust

only need like 2 screws/fan to keep them up there

[knotty sparrow]

True

[glacial spindle]

those thermaltake fans are a little underwhelming but all those in the picture were extra so I used em

the lighting on them looks good tho

[knotty sparrow]

If you do top intake I'd do the middle fan slot, blows over memory and some air might get to the gpu before it gets exhausted

[glacial spindle]

oh I'm putting three up there

I have two more to put in

just didn't wanna do the mission without deciding first

& even if I didn't have 2 more matching ones, I have generic 120mms

[knotty sparrow]

Ah that's different, in that case I really would do either side intake pulling through rad or top exhaust

[glacial spindle]

so there's going to be 3 fans up there for sure

ya my bad I should've been more clear

side intake?

won't that pull in hot air tho?

really I probably should've done the rad up top but it's like 50mm thick with the fans on it

& it put pressure on CPU power cable & hit it's red extension glory lol

which normally I don't care about

cuz in 10900K build the CPU cable is like under 30lbs of force from stuffing the rad up there

[knotty sparrow]

Why would side intake pull hot air? Front and side in, all fresh air

[glacial spindle]

cuz the AIO rad is on the side

[knotty sparrow]

Oh you mean heat from the rad

[glacial spindle]

yes

rad up top would've been smartest decision huh? lol

[knotty sparrow]

Hot air is better than weird airflow path

And there's still front intake

[glacial spindle]

hmm very true

from now on, I'm not buying another case that doesn't have bottom intake

& you're right, between the GPU & the PSU, if I did the rear fan as intake, it would probably be pulling in hotter air than making the rad an intake would

plus rad should cool better if it's getting outside air as opposed to case air mixed with front intake air

originally I was thinking of putting the rad on top but with the 3x fan above it to pull & have top case rgb

[knotty sparrow]

Exactly my thoughts. If you had a hotter gpu it would be more of a factor

[glacial spindle]

but I doubt anyone wants to look at a blank rad at the top of the case

ya 3060 can't really even overclock high enough to overheat from my experience

& it was in H500P Mesh mounted vertical for a month or two

they need to make like modular AIOs

like so you can adjust pipe lengths, change rad if you want, maybe add a second rad

like custom loop lite

baby's first custom loop?

[knotty sparrow]

They have aio kits like that

[glacial spindle]

damn if they had g1/4 connections, you could swap it out to a copper rad

[shrewd juniper]

It should be alright even tho i only realised this after screwing them all in right?

[glacial spindle]

"pump" headers can usually take 2amps

[timid carbon]

So can fan headers on most modern boards

[glacial spindle]

ye

just finished 5000D build

I like how the AIO came out but I hate how the hoses came out

oh well

It's in #build-pics. I welcome constructive criticism

[heady crown]

@timid carbon how often should I change the fluid in the pump?

[timid carbon]

You really dont need to if you put good stuff in the first time round

Just top it up every now and again

[heady crown]

What you recommend?

Also, decided against Corsair custom loop

[timid carbon]

But it depends

If you use pastel coloured stuff you need to change every couple of months

[heady crown]

Ok, but straight fluid+food coloring?

Should be good?

[timid carbon]

If its just die in water maybe once a year or so

[heady crown]

Got it

[timid carbon]

And just distilled water can do till it gets discoloured

[timid carbon]

Dont use food colour

Can cause algae and stuff in the fluid

And make it gunky

[timid carbon]

EK stuff

[heady crown]

👍

[waxen vault]

how do i know if my cpu or gpu is throtling

[timid carbon]

Look at temps

[waxen vault]

how?

[knotty sparrow]

Play a game with hwinfo running, after a while check the stats and see what's throttling

[timid carbon]

That does only cpu

Hwinfo + gpuz is needed

[waxen vault]

how to check gpu and cpu temp'

[timid carbon]

Hwinfo and gpuz

...

[waxen vault]

ok

[knotty sparrow]

It does gpu too

[timid carbon]

Only some

Not all

Gpuz more reliable

[knotty sparrow]

Worked for every GPU I ever had

[timid carbon]

Doesnt work on mine

[knotty sparrow]

Did you still have that 580?

[timid carbon]

570

Yeah

[knotty sparrow]

Ah, yeah I think it's some of the older AMD ones that don't report it

[timid carbon]

I just call it a 580 because it performs like a 580 so less confusion

[timid carbon]

Could be.

[waxen vault]

i have both apps how do u know if they are throtlling

[knotty sparrow]

The part that I circled in the picture will say "yes" under maximum if it hit that specific limit

There's a CPU section too

[waxen vault]

ok

[quick hollow]

Managed to get my CPU and GPU to stay at a whopping 40c playing GTA5 1440p maxed out and War Thunder maxed out. Undervolt on the GPU, custom fan curve. Nothing done the cpu

[golden rover]

Imagine that

I don’t think my cpu has every gone below 60c

On my laptop, my desktop runs really cool but just sucks

[red belfry]

Hey does anyone know why my rgb lights on the cooler dont light up half the time?

It cycles rainbow for 3 sec then off for 5 then back on for 3 constantly

[quick hollow]

60c is still pretty good

[golden rover]

Idle temp, when 100% utilizied it is constantly temp throttling

Basically sits in between 90-100c

[cold gorge]

are the arctic p12s some what quiet

[marsh badge]

Not somewhat, pretty quiet

Not noctua quiet but they're much cheaper than noctua

And performs like one airflow wise

[shrewd juniper]

Fairly quiet and really good, I'd say they're a step down from the a12x25s

[marsh badge]

What's that

Huge rad?

[twilit abyss]

lmao the company name

amazing

[knotty sparrow]

Looks like a swamp cooler

[proper cradle]

so is power my throttle

[shrewd juniper]

Performance limit-power yes would mean your power limited

[proper cradle]

[knotty sparrow]

You can increase the power available to your cpu in the overclocking menu, but that'll come at the cost of much more heat

[proper cradle]

thats gpu

[knotty sparrow]

Yeah
You can do the same with a gpu

[topaz blaze]

more voltage more better

[topaz blaze]

is there anything better than the arctic liquid freezer ii 360?

[real walrus]

the aio i want needs a 3 pin plugin on the motherboard but mine only has 4 pin what do i do?

[topaz blaze]

plug it inot the 4 pin header

[real walrus]

oh shii i thot you needed a two 3 pins thank you

[shrewd juniper]

Arctic liquid freezer ii 420mm

[shrewd juniper]

If it's rgb don't plug 3 pin into 4 pin or you'll blow the whole thing

[marsh badge]

^

It's likely argb

5v, while 4 pin pwn runs on 12v

So yeah it's gonna pop

[topaz blaze]

lmao thats kinda obvious

are there any aios or air coolersz that are better than that

[shrewd juniper]

Not aios

[knotty sparrow]

You can't fit argb plug into rgb header, at least not without breaking a pin. It's possible to accidentally put a rgb plug into an argb header though.

[shrewd juniper]

Ahh right yeah

[civic valley]

ok so now I'm confused- last PC I built was like 6 years ago or so, it's been a while since I've applied thermal paste, I thought you just put a pea sized amount on the center of the chip and put your cooler on but I lve been hearing about people doing an X pattern or something??? 5800x and Arctic liquid freeze 2 360 if that matters

[marsh badge]

You don't need an X

Just do a pea

[shrewd juniper]

X is most optimal for spreading but pea works fine

[marsh badge]

X uses more paste

But it's max spread

[civic valley]

alright that's what I kinda figured I was just confused 😂

if the aio comes with enough paste I'll probably do an x

[shrewd juniper]

It might come with preapplied paste

[civic valley]

oh shoot maybe

[low pumice]

This is cool
https://youtu.be/57voVXMWjW8

[subtle flower]

Bequiet mounting bracket do be taking forever

[shrewd juniper]

Quick enough

[subtle flower]

Says you

I'm staring at a new CPU and motherboard for a week lol

I'm impatient lol

[shrewd juniper]

Lol

They only sent it out like yesterday lol

[tame dragon]

So what’s the verdict on the fractal lumen or fractal aio in general?

[shrewd juniper]

Fine

But arctic liquid freezer ii/ek rgb aio/lian li Galahad better

Arctic best on amd with their offset mount, on intel it's pretty much a tie

[unique cradle]

anyone know if my h110 is compatible with the new
1700 socket?

[shrewd juniper]

If you get the new bracket from Corsair it should

[unique tundra]

whats a good cpu air cooler

around 55

[shrewd juniper]

Usd? And what cpu

[unique tundra]

yes,intel

[low pumice]

What chip in specific? like 10400? 10900k? 12900k?

[unique tundra]

i5 11th gen

115600 i think

[low pumice]

11600k or 11600/11500 non-k

If you want to OC 11600k, I'd put a bit more budget into it, but if not, PA120 for ~50$
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B08XM7P1CF

but my inner noctua fanboy also says u12s redux is an option if you also like Noctua, just less performance
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B08WPDD6GD

[shrewd juniper]

peerless assasin 120 definetly

Also comes in white rgb https://pcpartpicker.com/product/fWKKHx/thermalright-peerless-assassin-120-white-argb-6617-cfm-cpu-cooler-pa120-white-argb-a

[low pumice]

why white pa120 when you can have black pa120 >:(

[shrewd juniper]

Idk mb they want are geee bee

[floral galleon]

Guys

How can I control the fans to change colors and speed

My fans is Lian li sl120

Motherboard aorus b550

[glacial spindle]

Anyone building a custom loop & considering using EK Cryofuel, DO NOT do it

look at this atrocity. This isn't even 6 months old

I circled all the white powder garbage it's left behind

[shrewd juniper]

For speed, go into the bios and find the fan control, think it's called quickfan 5 or something, for the colour, gigabytes rgb fusion should do the trick

[shrewd juniper]

Bout to buy some arctic p12 pwm(this time) pst's(because they're the cheapest) should i just use pst and not bother with my hub? What do people think?(will be chaining 5 fans if chaining)

[timid carbon]

You can chain 5 to 1 header but I would go 3 and 2

[shrewd juniper]

Yeah i figured, thing is i only have 1 case fan header

[timid carbon]

You can use cpu opt

[shrewd juniper]

Was thinking could possibly remove hub cuz more space

Cpu opt?

[timid carbon]

The aio pump header

Yeaqh ouch it looks like you have 2 headers on ur mobo

[shrewd juniper]

I definitely have one of those

https://tenor.com/view/homer-simpson-homer-disappears-bush-hiding-gif-3377649

[idle tiger]

That's a problem with any opaque coolant, translucent cryofuel is great, though expensive.

[raven bane]

can u suggest a good thermal paste

for my cpu r7 3800x

[shrewd juniper]

Just use the included paste with the cooler

[raven bane]

I'm currently using mx-4 but it doesnt seem to be doing a good job

problem is its gone already

[shrewd juniper]

If you want to repaste mx4/mx5 whichever is cheaper

[shrewd juniper]

Probably a bad mount or something, what cooler are you using, and what do you mean it doesn't work?

[raven bane]

my cooler is xigmatek aurora 240, its not really.. good however theres a catch
I had a lot of temp jumps with this and I sent it to repair, now its back from repair and my temp jumps are really fixed. I dont get 70 degrees when I'm starting my pc up now
I just ran prime95 for 10-15 mins I got at least 10 degrees less (because it was on 95 degs before, it could even go further) and 25 watts more

however

idk. I expect the cooler to suck the heat immediately

when cpu gets hot at first

its not jumping anymore but I think maybe theres still a room for improvement

[shrewd juniper]

Nah mx4 is good, make sure your pump is constantly 100% and see what your fan curve looks like, if that doesn't fix the issue, try remount and make sure you screw in an X pattern

[raven bane]

ok

and maybe I'm expecting a lot

because

I've seen people complaining about 3800x's temps even with h115i

or some better ones

its not even throttling in p95 anymore

I think 130W is as much as it gets without overclocking

so I dont know if I should care this or not

[low pumice]

I mean

[low pumice]

I've had my 3800x hit 180w spikes in p95 with I believe 4.2ghz at 1.3v

[low pumice]

But 3800x just gets really hot, hotspots and all, lots of power and heat in a small die

I have a 3800x under a D15

[glacial spindle]

I think I'm going to find some corrosion/biocide additive & use distilled water only from now on

[idle tiger]

Or just use a premix..

[glacial spindle]

True. I'm just tired of dropping $25+ on bottles, especially when 1-2 months later I'm tossing it because crap like this happens

[raven bane]

oh

can I ask how

[low pumice]

its just spikes, p95 smallfft is very intensive and all

it'll actually average somewhere around 120w draw

but spikes are spikes

[raven bane]

d15 is rly good

I should've gotten that

[low pumice]

eh

It still does like 90c under smallfft at 4.2ghz@1.35v

it'll jump to 100c practically right away if I do smallfft at 4.4ghz@1.4v when I was doing benching for fun

ofc it was degrading my chip, but it was already crap sample

[raven bane]

I'm too scared to run that at 1.35v

[low pumice]

Yea don't if you're going to daily it

[raven bane]

mine can do 4.4 ghz 1.2875v

[low pumice]

I have early sample 3800x not long after launch

its not stable 4.2@1.3v

[raven bane]

its not a good sample then

[low pumice]

So I just run 4ghz at around 1.225v daily

[raven bane]

I run at default because locking frequencies always give me some anxiety

[low pumice]

yea

I have 2019 week 31 production 3800x

quite early

[raven bane]

oh my god I just realised that I have 8 GB ram available right now I forgot to fully install a stick lmao

yeah its early

only thing I got early is my mobo

I got it after the launch day of b550's

there werent even any reviews about it

b550 gaming edge wifi

[low pumice]

you can tell week of production by whats printed on the IHS

for example, this is 2020 week 37 chip

[raven bane]

next time I uninstall my cooler I'll also check that

[low pumice]

yea considering you can do 4.4ghz at 1.2875, it's later sample

pretty good

[raven bane]

which paste do u use for 3800x?

[low pumice]

If you want best performance, take a look at testing done here
https://www.tomshardware.com/best-picks/best-thermal-paste

What I'm currently using is nt-h2 I bought after I kept remounting my d15 and running out of the nt-h1 that was in the tube my d15 came with

[raven bane]

ok

[civic valley]

does the week and year of it make a difference?

[shrewd juniper]

For ryzen 3000 yeah, earlier chips aren't as good

[civic valley]

what about the 5000 series?

hope mid august is good

ouch discord killed the pic quality

[shrewd juniper]

No idea

[civic valley]

hm

[raven bane]

1.26v 4 ghz on auto settings for p95

it can do this on way lower voltage

[raven bane]

passed cb r23 on 4.4 ghz all core at 1.2875v max. 76 degs 12537 points, has been a while since last time I tested it I just did again

[low pumice]

its just generally the later the sample, the better the chip

As the process mature, the individual chips that come off the line becomes better and better

[civic valley]

ah that makes sense

my 5800x said mid august of this year

fairly recent

[subtle flower]

Is mx-4 decent enough for heavier use cases

I'm out of my pink paste thermal grizzly stuff

I forget the name of it

[knotty sparrow]

Yeah it's fine

[subtle flower]

Going to be using it with my 12600k

the thermal grizzly high end paste is so expensive

[knotty sparrow]

Worst case it's a couple degrees warmer

[subtle flower]

and I got a 20g tube of mx4 6 months ago for like $15

that I've been using for everything

gpus, consoles, etc.

but didn't know about putting it on a thermonuclear reactor

[knotty sparrow]

12600k wasn't nearly as hot as 12900k. A 240mm aio can handle it.

[subtle flower]

I got an air cooler

never having water in my build again for any reason

[knotty sparrow]

Which air cooler?

[subtle flower]

dark rock 4

it has a 200 watt rating

[knotty sparrow]

Yeah that's fine

[subtle flower]

it handles my 8600k at 1.415 volts

which intel extreme overclocking utility says is pulling 170 watts

Keeps it at around 75-80C with that load

[knotty sparrow]

Which is about how much the 12600k pulls at stock lol

[subtle flower]

uhm

what

150 max boost?

[knotty sparrow]

All core load

[subtle flower]

yeah

[knotty sparrow]

That 150W is assuming the mobo maker follows intel spec

[subtle flower]

gamers nexus was only showing 119 watts with all cores maxed in blender

[knotty sparrow]

That's blender though, not a real avx workload

[subtle flower]

I've not seen a review have over 150 watts

can you show me like

some numbers

I believe you I just want to look into this further

[knotty sparrow]

Hang on a bit

[subtle flower]

I may throw away my cpu cooler for new one then if it's going to run that hot

[knotty sparrow]

You've got plenty of headroom on your cooler one way or the other tbh

Undervolting can help a lot on this series if temps get out of hand.

Tweak town got a Delta of 135W over idle draw under r23 load. Weird way of measuring imo.

[subtle flower]

never hard of tweak town before tbh

[knotty sparrow]

224W whole system with 55W idle under p95, 169W delta.

[ashen whale]

Should I flip my GPU rad orientation?

[knotty sparrow]

It's fine

[ashen whale]

Bubbles collecting at the top of radiator near the tubes being circled through the aio though..

[topaz blaze]

thats not how loops work

it's fine

[knotty sparrow]

Any air pockets will just stay at the highest point in the loop. Any bubbles that might get circulated will be small.

[topaz blaze]

^

much better than my lazy response lol

[ashen whale]

thx folks

Recently watched that GN video of way of positioning aios for best lifespan

[subtle flower]

The thing that affects life span the most is uneven heights. Are you willing to eventually replace the gpu radiator after a few years?

[ashen whale]

Sure, if the gpu was still good, but the waterblock, pump, or radiator went bad, and if it was possible to install a new aio, I totally would

[subtle flower]

Yeah then don't worry about it

it's not like your gpu will die

the pump may just burn out after like 3-4 years

radiator is just metal, waterblock is just metal

those won't "go bad"

just replace the aio and you're set

[topaz blaze]

pumps dont really go bad that quick unless it was a bad design to begin with. pretty much all respectable pumps last upwards of 6+ years

it's just an anecdote, but i had an hp prebuilt 3770k system that had a 120mm aio, the pump still worked fine up until i sold it about a year and a half ago

wish i kept it though :(

[subtle flower]

my moms prebuilt with an 4790k and 120mm aio is still good

but it's perfectly level

a heigh difference of 8+ inches isn't good for the pump

[topaz blaze]

its only an issue if there's air consistently getting into the pump.

[autumn iris]

Would getting a 240mm rad be very different from a 280mm rad?

My case supports either but not a 3-fan rad

[marsh badge]

Not much