old-cooling

[shrewd juniper]

Does anyone know about this btw ?

[magic wave]

get whatever's cheaper imo

[shrewd juniper]

Thank you, you know about the spatula

[magic wave]

it's probably a spatula

I feel like using a spatula is unnecessary but not harmful

also if the cooler comes with paste you wouldn't even need a new tube until it came time to repaste

[shrewd juniper]

It's for reparating gpu after thermal pads, i already have some spare id cooling se 224 paste but idk if i should get the mx5 with the spatula for spreading, heard it's more important for gpus

[magic wave]

wouldn't hurt

[shrewd juniper]

Okay thanks

[twin urchin]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=57eI7gbl0Lk looks like pretty soon we'll all be using Indium sheets from now on instead of paste.

[knotty sparrow]

They said the same about graphite sheets and they turned out a little under a good thermal paste in performance

[wraith rose]

Why would it be adopted en masse over thermal paste anyways? It is harder to apply, easier to screw up and riskier for components to use

[magic wave]

but can it blend

[errant palm]

Has anyone in here tried immersion cooling?

[shrewd juniper]

Never heard of them

[weary slate]

I haven't but from what I've heard it doesn't seem worth the hassle.

[opal shadow]

Looking to upgrade my case fans. Currently have a Mastercase Pro 5 with 3 Corsair HD140’s in front for intake, an NZXT X62 up top with a pull exhaust setup, and the stock CoolerMaster fan in the rear as exhaust.

Thinking of getting 6x Noctua NF-A14’s - eventually using them in a custom loop with two 420mm radiators.

Any recommendations for the NF-A14’s or suggestions for other 140mm fans?

[shrewd juniper]

I'd recommend arctic p14's tbh but that's because you can get them for 10/fan or 45/5 pack

Afaik the noctua a14s are good tho

[solemn juniper]

Thoughts on inwin sirius pure? They look perfect as far as aesthics go

[opal shadow]

I used the InWin Sirius Loop for my sister’s budget gaming PC and they push decent air and look great. I’m sure the Pures are just as good.

[river lichen]

One front 120 intake at the bottom, on 120’exhaust at mid rear. 2 side panel mounts for 120, should I do intakes or exhaust?

[shrewd juniper]

I'd do intake id it's filtered at all, also don't bump off that lol

[river lichen]

No, none of its filtered. What do you mean, bump off what?

[shrewd juniper]

It's sticking off the table lol

Ehh i guess exhaust then

Do you even need more fans in it, or is it more than just an office pc?

[river lichen]

Lol was just for the pic. Just came in and I was looking it over

[shrewd juniper]

Ohh

[river lichen]

It will have an i7 4790k and a rx560

Both will be pushed hard

[shrewd juniper]

Don't bother with more fans unless it's choking somehow then

[river lichen]

Bruh

I’m always maxing out my fans

[shrewd juniper]

Really?

[river lichen]

Yea

[shrewd juniper]

Like what temps do you get?

[river lichen]

Ive got 5 builds going right now and they all use all their allotted fan mounts

Air cool gang gang

[river lichen]

I dunno, this is going to be a new(old) build

The rx560 is currently in an optiplex case with one exhaust fan and an i5 4570

[shrewd juniper]

Well can you run stress for gpu and one for cpu and see?

[river lichen]

I haven’t checked temps under load with that

[river lichen]

Case came in, I have the gpu, but the cpu/mobo/ram all come in mon/tue

[shrewd juniper]

Ehh will you be using a stock heatsink or a tower cooler btw?

If it's a stock shaped cooler then exhaust might be best bet if not I'd say intake probs

[river lichen]

It’s a low profile noctua cooler

[timid carbon]

I have a question

I have the 410r cooler by coolermaster

[shrewd juniper]

I'd probs go exhaust then if the cooler will face where the fans about to go

[timid carbon]

I also have mf120l fans that are extra

Should I slap on a mf120l onto the heatsync instead of the fan that comes with the 410r

[wise nacelle]

What is better corsiar or nzxt

?

[boreal sphinx]

You mean aios?@wise nacelle

[shrewd juniper]

For aios it goes arctic liquid ii, ek aio, lian li galahad, then they're all either more expensive and don't perform as good or cheaper and not as good as an air cooler at their price, but corsair is slightly better but way more expensive than the 3 i listed above

If that's what you meant

[wary ore]

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/8GBrxr/scythe-mugen-5-rev-b-5117-cfm-cpu-cooler-scmg-5100

Thoughts on this cooler for the 5600x?

what makes it better for the 5600x?

@timid carbon What did you delete your comment

[timid carbon]

i read 3600x

[wary ore]

oh ok

[timid carbon]

not 5600x

[shrewd juniper]

the fuma is like 5 or 10 more and performs a lot better too

[wary ore]

https://www.amazon.com/Original-Design-Towers-Cooler-SCFM-2000/dp/B07QMK5R45/ref=as_li_ss_tl?crid=3H9G6IQ502XH6&dchild=1&keywords=scythe+fuma+2&qid=1603941615&s=electronics&sprefix=Scythe+,electronics,156&sr=1-1-spons&psc=1&spLa=ZW5jcnlwdGVkUXVhbGlmaWVyPUFWN05YQlRBQzczNjYmZW5jcnlwdGVkSWQ9QTA3ODgwMzgxUUdLMjBYVEFJRjhFJmVuY3J5cHRlZEFkSWQ9QTA5NTc5OTlXSDNIRUZGSzRZMlcmd2lkZ2V0TmFtZT1zcF9hdGYmYWN0aW9uPWNsaWNrUmVkaXJlY3QmZG9Ob3RMb2dDbGljaz10cnVl&linkCode=sl1&tag=pcbuilder035-20&linkId=7a65d3ffc42c6e4e764294b5e7c2ab8c&language=en_US

are you talking about this one?

[shrewd juniper]

yes

[wary ore]

ill take that into consideration

[shrewd juniper]

Amazon

[honest flint]

Is the Deepcool Castle 240EX a good cooler? From what I’ve heard it sounds decent

Still tryna decide what cooler I should get after both of the H100i Capellix’s I got were defects

[shrewd juniper]

If you want an aio get arctic liquid ii, or ek aio or lian li galahad

[honest flint]

I thought the Galahad didn’t have the best reviews

[shrewd juniper]

It goes arctic, ek then galahad

[honest flint]

K

@shrewd juniper which EK? Or are all of them pretty much the same

[shrewd juniper]

The 240mm/360mn is just the size

[honest flint]

Specifically EK basic 240mm I’m looking at

[shrewd juniper]

And the rgb and non rgb are same perf

[honest flint]

Ok

[honest flint]

EK basic is sexy asf ngl

Brushed finish

[shrewd juniper]

It's nice

[fervent canopy]

Noctua NF-P14s redux-1500 PWM, High Performance Cooling Fan, 4-Pin, 1500 RPM (140mm, Grey) https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00KF7O58G/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_glt_fabc_M7A5ZQ4XVTJTRB4GTR5N

Is this a decent deal for a 140mm fan ?

I'm only buying 2 of them

[magic wave]

yeah I guess that is pretty low for noctuas

I'm still going arctic p14 when I get fans

[fervent canopy]

I've searched them up and now it's tempting! Noctua/P14, both have aesthetically pleasing specs and looks

[magic wave]

I was looking at I think be quiet! pure wings 2 but I wanted the 140mm PWM ver and nobody sells those at a reasonable price

and then I realized I might instead want pressure optimized fans, thus p14

[fervent canopy]

Ah, now i understand and those fans looks nice $12 for them

[boreal sphinx]

You can get 5 pack for 38

[magic wave]

only need two

[boreal sphinx]

Yeah but for 14$ i would get 3 exrta for the future

[magic wave]

'spose

[zinc ore]

Anybody have suggestions for decent rgb case fans that aren’t corsairs? Not tryna spend that much on fans

[magic wave]

you could get non rgb fans and install them when you get them, and then later on get those halo type things

[shrewd juniper]

Arctic p12 rgb or gelid stellas

[boreal sphinx]

@shrewd juniper btw gelid extrame thermal pads are 12 w/mk and almost same price as arctic ones .i will buy them today and i hope they will be here till next week

[shrewd juniper]

Okay, nice I'll look into that thanks

[sterile echo]

It is worth it to fill up every available spot on my micro case with fans? I got 2 140mm on the front, 2 140mm on the top, and 1 120mm on the back. Currently I just have 2 120mm fans on the front, so the next upgrade would be to swap those out and fill the remaining space if that makes sense.

[magic wave]

2front1back all the way

[sterile echo]

No need for the tops?

[magic wave]

even 1front1back would pretty much be fine

[sterile echo]

Yeah I put the second in the front because my GPU is a little space constrained and wanted to make sure it got some extra air

Had the fan so there was no reason not to

[wide glade]

Yer. I have a question. I have 3 Be Quiet! Pure Silent Wings 2 in front on my 360mm Be Quiet! Pure Loop rad, then 2 140's of the same on top, and 1 of the same in the back, was wondering if I should change to Corsair fans, and a Corsair rad, if it'd be better cooling. I have an R7 5800X and it generally sits around 50 idle when overclocked to about 4.6 ghz, and 60-mid 70's under load.

[magic wave]

sounds fine

[shrewd juniper]

That's a perfectly fine temp, if you wanted to change don't go corsair tho it would be way more expensive and worse than arctic liquid, ek or galahad tbh and they're all cheaper then corsair

[boreal sphinx]

Just ordered thermal pads and paste it will be here in like 3 weeks tho because the 2mm and 1.5mm pads arent in stock till may 18.

[shrewd juniper]

Oof let me know how it goes, I'll probs wait till after my exams to do it so I'd be interested to see how it works for you

[boreal sphinx]

Sure will let you know

[shrewd juniper]

Cheers

[gloomy garnet]

by any chance, do you happen to know of how thick the thermal pads for a ftw3 3070 should be for the vram?

[boreal sphinx]

For my gpu it is 1.5mm and 1mm but each brand is different i will check it out tho

[gloomy garnet]

thank you, i have been trying to find someone who did it for a ftw3 3070, closest is the xc3 but i'm not sure if they're the same either

yt, reddit, etc, no luck unless i'm missing things

[boreal sphinx]

https://m.imgur.com/a/HiEcmLf

Thats for 3080

70s are hard to find

[gloomy garnet]

hmmmm

i guess because the 70s don't have as much an issue with temps?

[boreal sphinx]

I think they still do have but people dont know it because no vram temp sensors

[gloomy garnet]

oh okay

i'm just curious cuz if it's "easy" to put thermal pads on the vram, then i might as well do it

[boreal sphinx]

From videos and stuff it looks easy tbh , i have never done it before tho so idk for sure.

[gloomy garnet]

i guess just have to be careful with the die

[boreal sphinx]

Just need to be careful with the fan and rgb cables

[gloomy garnet]

that too

[boreal sphinx]

I will do some more research before i do it, have like 3 weeks till the pads will come.

[gloomy garnet]

okay, let me know if you find anything, i'm gonna keep looking too

i found a video for the xc3 3070

but i don't want to rely on that only if the ftw3 3070 has a different thickness

[boreal sphinx]

👍

[knotty sparrow]

I'm starting my thermal pad replacement today too. No more 110 C memory junction!

[gloomy garnet]

Good luck

[azure crown]

[shrewd juniper]

The thermal pad breakdowns for 3070s online is slim unfortunately because the miners only care bout the 3080s because g6x mem even toastier, also they usually in open air no case so helps a few degrees too I'd say

Although seems as the 3070/80 thickness is most likely the same

[gloomy garnet]

I see

[shrewd juniper]

I don't think so, think the g6x gets hotter up to 105c so our 3070s dont get that hot lol

[shrewd juniper]

Good luck

[boreal sphinx]

I know its less then a 3080 but still getting hot...

Gl falcie

[shrewd juniper]

Ohh yeah ik was just saying thats probs the reason not as many 3070 teardowns

[hazy spoke]

Would anyone know if there is pwm support on a intel q75 express board

Nvm

[short jasper]

what cpu and up should start to be water cooled

intel wise

actually i worded that weird. what gens should be water cooled i guess you could say

like 10th and 11th gens?

[river lichen]

Best to worst? What order?

[magic wave]

https://tenor.com/view/eenie-meenie-miney-mo-choose-pick-decide-offset-gif-15366063

[shrewd juniper]

Ehh i mean even the best ones only improve by a few degrees whichever is cheaper is better tbh pretty sure they all perf the same

[atomic jetty]

I'm an arctic silver 5 guy

[river lichen]

But I have all 3 in my hand so price doesn’t matter lol

[magic wave]

Newest one

[shrewd juniper]

Pick whichever you fancy then, i like arctic so I'd go them

Mx5 is pretty new

[low pumice]

nt-h1

do it

Noctua goes brrt

[shrewd juniper]

Fair

[river lichen]

Yes I was about to say I already got my answer and it’s nt-h1

But thank you!

[atomic jetty]

noctua does indeed go brr

[crystal apex]

I use what's cheapest

[atomic jetty]

5 bucks a tube babyyyy

[crystal apex]

?

No

Mby

[atomic jetty]

I mean that's part of why I got it, lol

[crystal apex]

Idk

I don't care

And once went 5 months without it

[jade hornet]

i cracked a raw egg on top of my cpu
as an insulator

[mint spire]

can a radiator substitute case fans?

[knotty eagle]

Yes

[mint spire]

alr

[knotty eagle]

My AIO is top mounted and is also exhaust

[crystal apex]

aios are overrated

[idle tiger]

I really want to give mx-5 a try

nt-h1 feels very thick, I'd want high mounting pressure to use it

[low pumice]

Yea, from charts, NT-H1 performs quite well with high mounting pressure, scales less well with lighter mounting pressure

[crystal apex]

buy the cheapper one

they dont really matter

[low pumice]

wat

[idle tiger]

I use mx-4 on most non-important stuff

[crystal apex]

they dont matter

thermal paste

[idle tiger]

kpx for things that get cold

[crystal apex]

in the sense that it doesnt matter what brand

[low pumice]

Oh yea forky, does any paste just not do well with ln2?

[idle tiger]

Most are fine

Some stuff can crack

hicookie ran a 11900k ln2 with mx-5 recently, got a

Most everyone uses kryonaut or kpx, some gc extreme

[low pumice]

I assume you use KPX because b i g t u b?

fair, I assumed kryonaut up there

[idle tiger]

It comes in a syringe now

kryonaut extreme is $100 for a 30g tub lol

[crystal apex]

tf

[idle tiger]

I have no intention to try it

[crystal apex]

whats the diffrence

[idle tiger]

idk, more w/mk I guess

Also it's pink

[crystal apex]

ah

pink

[low pumice]

hm, I could've sworn kpx came in a tub

[crystal apex]

then i need it

[idle tiger]

kpx used to come in a tub

I much prefer syringes

[low pumice]

ah, yea, syringes are more versatile with application

[idle tiger]

Easier to wipe the excess off the spreader back into the tub though

[low pumice]

can't just dip the chip in the tub sadly

[atomic jetty]

wrong kind of chips and salsa

[magic wave]

puts down cpu

oh

[slender cape]

Question... I got one of those EZDIY-FAB side mount vga holders. I am looking to connect the lights... But not seeing where there's a spot on my B350 Pro Carbon Gaming Motherboard..

Or am going about this all wrong

Thanks in advance

[low pumice]

@slender capeNot exactly sure what exactly the product is, but for the motherboard, it has a 4 pin 12v rgb header, but the board does not have a 3 pin 5v argb header.

[zinc ore]

Does it work to use two different kinds of fans in a build? For example, I wanna use corsair fans for the front and an arctic 120 fan for the back

[magic wave]

I'm gonna be using a 120mm thermaltake generic in the back, a be quiet fan on the cooler, and some arctic p14s on the front

totally fine to do

[wraith rose]

You can do it, but the differing cfms of the fans and the difference in fan pressure can make managing case pressure and inflow/outflow management a bit tougher

It is perfectly fine though

[magic wave]

might be a few issues with rgb too

some companies do rgb differently

[wraith rose]

Corsair has a proprietary rgb connector

[zinc ore]

Yeah I just wanted the corsairs for aesthetics but they’re so expensive so tryna cut down where I can

[wraith rose]

I mean, technically you can get away with not using rgb fans at all and add your own rgb, but that is going to cost at least 10 dollars each fan for the Phanteks halos

[magic wave]

maybe you could get non rgb fans and then put

oh yes

what weary said

[zinc ore]

Like just some rgb strips or something specific?

[wraith rose]

You get the advantage of the stronk non-rgb fans with the rgb

[magic wave]

they're little circles you put on your fans that light up just like rgb fans

[wraith rose]

No, Phanteks makes halos you put on fans

[zinc ore]

Oh damn imma look into that thanks for the help

[wraith rose]

http://www.phanteks.com/Halos.html

They cost something like 10 usd each minimum on Newegg I think?

[magic wave]

funny, the 120s are a dollar more than the 140s

[wraith rose]

Really?

[magic wave]

looks like it

[wraith rose]

Well, it really does cost a dollar more. The more you know

Dunno why though

[magic wave]

reverse psychilogy

https://tenor.com/view/shrug-shoulder-oh-well-then-yeah-sure-gif-13989027

[wraith rose]

Or maybe the smaller ones are slightly harder to make because smol so they charge more? Eh

Or maybe Newegg just pepeg because those are the Newegg prices

Yeah, Newegg pepeg, they are listed as both $9.99 in the Phanteks store. They are sold out of course because 2021 but still

[magic wave]

lol

[untold ether]

Whats the difference between a Cooler Master CPU ARGB versus an RGB fan??? I am trying to add an additional fan to my Cooler Master Black Edition 212 CPU Cooler and it seems all of the SF12oR-RGB are no where to be found. Any help would be appreciated.

[timid carbon]

argb is Addressable RGB

[rose isle]

in general ARGB means you one can apply fancy effects, and have multiple colours at the same time. RGB means only one colour at a time

[untold ether]

Do you know if its is a three or four pin....my Aorus Z590 is a four pin motherboard so I would prefer 4 pin.

[timid carbon]

well no

argb is you can use the mobo rgb headers to contrll effects

[untold ether]

So a fan with ARGB capability is a newer fan than an RGB??

[timid carbon]

rgb means you have to use the rgb controller they include with the fans

[timid carbon]

no

more color customisation

otherwise ususally no difference

[untold ether]

So if I have to use their controller I cannot plug the fan directly into my 4 pin motherboard??? Right??

[timid carbon]

no

4pin goes to fan header

rgb cable goes to rgb controller

with argb rgb cable goes to rgb header on mobo and 4pin goes to fan header

[zinc ore]

Y’all prefer the lian li uni fans or Corsair LL

[rose isle]

would love to get unifans, but they are not available here. I have Corsair LLs and they do the job just fine

[zinc ore]

Deciding between the two rn and also tryna figure out where to put my fans. Do fans at the bottom help significantly enough that I should buy extras?

[rose isle]

what case?

I would go with the Unifans, just because of the cable management. With the corsair you get 2 cables per fan, and then there are 2 modules that have a cabe that connexts them and a USB cable to the motherboard and I think 2 sata power cables

[slender cape]

So I can not hook this to my motherboard?

It's a mount and bracket for the video card to go vertical. With some flashy led

[zinc ore]

Lian li Lancool mesh 2

[rose isle]

first of, excellent choice! second, yes, the fans on the bottom feed air directly to your GPU, so put some.

[zinc ore]

So maybe 3 fans in front, 1 in the back, radiator on the top, and 2 on the bottom? Or maybe I should buy a 360mm aio and front mount

[rose isle]

I currenty have 3 intake in front, 2 in the bottom and 1 exhaust. Getting a 240 aio to fit in the top. 360 aio in the front will also work

I guess it depends on your processor, weather you should go for 360 in front

[tranquil ridge]

My current pc cooling system hasnt been working very well

[shrewd juniper]

Do you want some advice?

[zinc ore]

I have a 5600x. Some people suggested I get at least a 280mm but Idk if it was necessary

[knotty eagle]

240mm minimum

280 or 360mm a plus

Highly recommend the Arctic Freezer II with offset CPU mount

Centers the cold plate on the offset Ryzen dies

[tranquil ridge]

sure

[shrewd juniper]

Whats your cooling solution atm?

[dark widget]

Thoughts on fans, Mr was saying I only need 2 on front, one on back, and ofc the cpu cooler. I'm using the Eclipse p300 mid tower. What does everyone else think of fans? Should I be fine using a EVGA CLC 240 and 1 arctic P12 PWM PST CO? However, I would buy 3 arctics and switch the fans from 2 of the arctics and put it onto the EVGA instead of their stock fans.

[shrewd juniper]

I would just use 2 front one back

[dark widget]

yeah that's the plan, going to mount aio on the front 2 fan mounts, and put one fan on the back

just need the other fans cause he mentioned stock 240 fans are loud.

and I keep my pc in my room

[shrewd juniper]

They wouldn't be that loud I'd say

But arctic p12s would def be quieter

[tranquil ridge]

comfort master CT121WT

[shrewd juniper]

Doesn't show up on google?

[knotty eagle]

They're a troll......... #build-pics message

[shrewd juniper]

Ohh thanks lol

[tranquil ridge]

haha

[spice bay]

Is there a big performance impact if i remove the front fan in the noctua nh-d15? Cant seem to find answers to this

[knotty eagle]

It's better to push air through a cooler rather than pull it. I'd expect a performance decrease

[low pumice]

@spice bay the NH-D15s is basically NH-D15 without the front fan, soooo...

[languid gale]

I just found out my cpu cooling wasn’t as good as it once was

One of cpu cooler’s fan blades is snapped off

[little skiff]

Ouch.

[thin orchid]

what's the best rgb 360mm aio? cost doesn't matter as long as it's under $160usd

[knotty sparrow]

Ek-aio, liquid freezer ii, lian li galahad

[topaz blaze]

What is a good fan hub for the lian li o11 dynamics I will be using an ek 360 aio with the rgb fans and 6 Arctic p12 fans. Have any recommendations?

[knotty sparrow]

I believe the aio comes with its own hub for the 3 fans, so any 6+ fan hub with extra power will do really

[topaz blaze]

Ok I’ll check. Thanks

The fans come with a y splitter but only the elite version comes with a hub

[weary slate]

Also if they're the PST version (which I think is the kind they sell in the 5 packs) of the fans they can also be daisy chained

[weary slate]

Hey what's a good cpu cooler if I want to make the most of pbo on my 5600x? I have an old Arctic Freezer 33 esports one but it gets a bit toasty at times and was wondering if I might benefit from a slightly better cooler, my big concern is the contact area of the cooler seems to be a bit small for the IHS of a ryzen CPU.

[knotty eagle]

Vetroo V5 or an AIO

[weary slate]

Alright thanks

[fallen shadow]

Hey! Noob here, or rather noob with current architecture. I picked up an i9-11900k, is there a good resource out there to determine just how much cooling I will need for it?

[knotty eagle]

What motherboard did you get for it?

Do you plan to overclock it?

What case do you have?

[fallen shadow]

MSI Z590-A Pro, no plans to OC, Meshify C (the older one)

[knotty eagle]

Big VRM heatsink on that board, I'd recommend an AIO like an Arcitc Freezer II 240mm or EK 240MM. Case is kind of small so may have to be front mounted, not sure if it will fit at the top

Big VRM heatsink will interfere with large air coolers

You could put a 280mm in the front, even stock the 11900K can get warm

[fallen shadow]

The top will fit 240mm maximum.

[knotty eagle]

Well, there are clearance issues

With motherboard ram

[fallen shadow]

Ah, that's true.

[knotty eagle]

According to meshify C specs you need low profile ram for that to work

Max height 40mm

And the VRM heatsink will most likely interfere as well with a top mount

[fallen shadow]

Nice, I don't mind putting the radiator on the front. Sorry, I had no idea what a VRM was. Had to read up on it.

[knotty eagle]

Ah, CPOU power supply

The big heatsink on the left of the board

[fallen shadow]

If I'm mounting the radiator on the front would it be overkill to got up to a 360mm?

[knotty eagle]

The issue with 360mm AIO's is the tube length

[fallen shadow]

I saw the NZXT Kraken X73 was on sale.

[knotty eagle]

That one is so overpriced

[fallen shadow]

Ah, I keep forgetting space is such a premium.

[knotty eagle]

yes the dsiplay is cool but $300 is eh

Especially when it doesn't cool all that well

[fallen shadow]

$180?

https://www.newegg.com/nzxt-liquid-cooling-system-kraken-x/p/N82E16835146068

I am a hyper minimalist/utilitarian/just plain old. The RGB aspect doesn't interest me.

[knotty eagle]

No RGB?

[fallen shadow]

If it's there, fine, I just know I won't utilize it.

Beginning to wonder if I should return this case for something larger

[knotty eagle]

If you don't want RGB then this is top of the line cooling https://smile.amazon.com/EK-Premium-EK-Vardar-High-Performance-Computer/dp/B08WCQBG4Y

[fallen shadow]

Oh nice. The hose length isn't too intrusive?

[knotty eagle]

The hoses will probably have to go at the top of the rad in the front of the case, not an issue

Might be bent a little funny because of how small the case is

With a slightly larger case you can top mount and have it look clean

[fallen shadow]

Nice

[glacial spindle]

Anyone use custom cooling loop? What's a decent pump w/o an attached reservoir?

Any D5?

[sterile echo]

Looking for some suggestions for an RGB fan controller for my rig. Got an Asus Tuf B550 board and have 0 idea how the RGB stuff works haha

[coral oak]

is the hyper 212 evo good with the r5 3600

[knotty eagle]

No

212 is overpriced

ID Cooling SSE 224 or Vetroo V5

Better coolers, less money

[sterile echo]

I got a scythe fuma which is great for a silent cooler

very quiet for the week or so that i have been using it 🙂

[shrewd juniper]

its good but a bit overkill for a 3600

[sterile echo]

yeah possibly. I have it on a 5800x and it keeps it tamed pretty well.

[shrewd sparrow]

Is 63 CFM good in a lian li 011 case with 2200RPM and 9 fans

Just @ me when you can help me out cause I gtg

[brisk temple]

Would a ryzen 7 5800x require a 360mm aio, or would it work well with a 240mm aio?

[knotty eagle]

A GOOD 240mm aio would be OK

If you plan on using PBO, get a 360mm

[brisk temple]

alright im looking at a corsair h100i elite aio

[knotty eagle]

Mmmmm

[brisk temple]

would that work well?

[knotty eagle]

I'd recommend an EK 240MM, Arctic Freezer II, or Lian Li Galahad

Those are the top 3 performing AIOS

[atomic jetty]

I have that on a 3700x and it's chill, not sure how power draws compare

you're definitely paying extra for corsair logo and leds though

[knotty eagle]

My 3700x will pull 125W and can get to 75C under my 360mm EVGA CLC

5800x runs a little warmer

[brisk temple]

Ooh I like that EK one, One of the main reasons the corsair one interested me was because it was RGB

[knotty eagle]

Lian Li is also RGB

[atomic jetty]

EK p nice

[knotty eagle]

But the EK has really good cooling

and cheap

$120 I think

[atomic jetty]

I kinda like the soft rgb effect theirs has

[brisk temple]

Thanks

I might actually get the 360mm one because its the exact price of the corsair 240mm

Sweet

[knotty eagle]

Yeye

Good stuff

[shrewd sparrow]

Is 63 CFM good in a lian li 011 case with 2200RPM and 9 fans

[knotty eagle]

Everyone tests CFM different so the CFM number doesn't mean much

[radiant fiber]

Ventus 3X 3080 + the Corsair water block? Or should I go for a different 3080 model, cause rn I don’t really see a difference, having the front plates removed in the end

The ventus is legit 3080 MSRP, at that 700$, so it’s probably not worth it to get a different card if assume

Also any suggestions on CPU water blocks?

[shrewd juniper]

Msi are inflatibf their prices the most so idk where you're getting a 700$ 3080 from but that's 3070 territory now, for water blocks, my go to would be ek

[knotty sparrow]

What's with those dimensions? Not only is it paper thin at 0.06mm it's somehow negative length

[shrewd juniper]

Lmao

[shrewd juniper]

You pay and give gotta provide the +12 yourself

[ripe sandal]

Hey guys, I have 3 NZXT case fans (https://www.nzxt.com/products/aer-rgb-2). I'm using the h510 elite case (which includes the nzxt rgb+fan controller) and I'm also using a gigabyte x570 auorus ultra. The 2 rgb headers on the nzxt controller are filled up, so I am wondering if I can plug the third fan into the motherboard. I want to make sure I don't damage anything or plug it into the wrong spot, but I'm a bit confused which headers are which. I see 2 LED and 2 D_LED... I don't know what the difference is tho :P

[shrewd juniper]

You should see something like sys_fan

Led is for rgb headers

[ripe sandal]

Sorry I should have specified, the fan is an rgb fan, I have plugged in the fan header already, but my question is regarding the rgb header since its a 12V connector

[low pumice]

Led is 12v
D_led is 5v

[radiant fiber]

Look on Newegg at the ventus 3X 3080

[shrewd juniper]

Okay lol good luck getting that exact one for 700, probs will be bundled too in the shuffle, just bring realistic

[radiant fiber]

I’m just going to make that one my focus lol

But yeah bundles are annoying

But yeah I will probably go EK, I looked at them first and my impression was that they’re the go to for water cooling stuff

Seems like that was accurate

[shrewd juniper]

Yep

[radiant fiber]

A lot of but yeahs but are there any custom loop guides

I think albeit expensive I wanna use the res that fits the front panel of the O11D XL from EK cause that would just look pretty cool

Plus it comes with a d5 built in and I heard the d5s are the best

(Not literally the best but the best option as far as pumps go)

[copper barn]

can anyone help me decide which cpu cooler to buy

[shrewd juniper]

For what cpu?

[languid gale]

How is the Arctic freezer II 360? I’m thinking of replacing my broken wraith prism with it

[copper barn]

ok so i have a ryzen 5 3600 but planning to upgrade to 8 cores and i want something that will work well for a while

[languid gale]

Are you OCing?

[copper barn]

maybe in the future

[shrewd juniper]

Scythe fuma 2

It's like 50-60$

[copper barn]

i had in mind something like a dark rock pro 4. is that too overkill?

[shrewd juniper]

Yeah overkill and bit expensive

[copper barn]

okay thanks

[languid gale]

So how is that arctic freezer II 360?

[knotty eagle]

Really good for AMD

Offset coldplate mount that centers it on the offset AMD cpu dies under the heat spreader

[languid gale]

I can get the RGB version of it for $145

Good price?

[shrewd juniper]

There's no rgb liquid freezer?

[languid gale]

There is

It just came out yesterday

[knotty eagle]

Huh

just has RGB fans

[shrewd juniper]

Ohh can you link?

[knotty eagle]

same everything else, NICE

[languid gale]

Yeah that’s what I meant

[knotty eagle]

https://www.amazon.com/ARCTIC-Liquid-Freezer-RGB-Multi-Compatible/dp/B08WRJ5MQW

RGB and aRGB

[shrewd juniper]

Ohh nice

[languid gale]

Personally not a fan of the screens on the pump

So it works for me

[knotty eagle]

Well, those AIO's have mediocre cooling anyway

So good XD

[shrewd juniper]

Yeah

Ek was the best rgb

Rip ek

[knotty eagle]

Eh

SOmetimes RGB fans have different performance

They optimize the blades for colors rather than air

[shrewd juniper]

True

[knotty eagle]

Curious to see tests with it

[shrewd juniper]

Well they use p12s on the non rgb right?

[knotty eagle]

I think so

I've heard the RGB version of the P12 isn't as good

[shrewd juniper]

There's rgb p12s so they probs perform same?

Ohh :/

[languid gale]

How big is the difference?

Also what’s the difference between ARGB and RGB

[shrewd juniper]

No idea don't think there's testing for rgb p12s

[knotty eagle]

aRGB is 3 pin 5 volt

RGB is 4 pin 12 volt

not compatible

[languid gale]

Nvm doesn’t matter ARGB isn’t available

My mobo has headers for both ARGB and RGB

Wait I found an EK AIO Elite 360, how would that compare?

[shrewd juniper]

The elite comes with 6 fans

Unless you wanna use the other 3 as system fans then I'd got the non elite

[knotty eagle]

Push PUll on an AIO is literally worthless

[shrewd juniper]

Like 1c for 3 extra fans lol

[knotty eagle]

ya

[languid gale]

How does it compare to the Arctic?

[shrewd juniper]

2nd best

[knotty eagle]

Couple C difference

nothing much

[languid gale]

Ok

Arctic it is

[knotty eagle]

Well, speak of the devil https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TTRFkYJMf9Y

[shrewd juniper]

Well we don't know how the arctic rgb performs btw

[shrewd juniper]

Yeah that's how i knew was 6 fan lol

Absolute mess of cables

[languid gale]

Looks like I’m a guinea pig

[knotty eagle]

SO testing said, noise normalized, it gets beat by the 420mm lol

Arctic freezer with offset mount

[languid gale]

I got the 360mm of the Arctic 2

I think I’ll be happy with it

[knotty eagle]

OH you will be

Thinking about swapping out my CLC360 for one

[shrewd juniper]

As long as it fits your case you'll be fine just fine

[languid gale]

I’m currently using a Core V31 so it definitely will fit, then I’m going to be putting it in a meshify 2 compact

[shrewd juniper]

Make sure it fits in the case you want to move too

[topaz blaze]

any good cheap fan hubs that can support like 5 fans (or more) so sadly no fc1 :(

[shrewd juniper]

Anything that's sata powered will do, they all do the same thing so

[shrewd juniper]

https://www.amazon.com/ARCTIC-Case-Fan-Hub-Distributor/dp/B0887VG14J/ something like this

[gloomy garnet]

does anyone have an alternative rec to the noctua chromax black 120mm pwm fans because i just want to buy a quiet fan for not $23?

[magic wave]

P12

Should be 9 dollars for a pwm p12 I think?

Arctic

[gloomy garnet]

alr

cool

thanks

[magic wave]

Yw

I want to get P14s

[gloomy garnet]

i just need 1 120mm pwm fan for my rear exhaust

i'm getting annoyed with this annoying riing led tt fan

[magic wave]

Ah

Lol

[gloomy garnet]

it's not pwm

so

[magic wave]

Rip

[gloomy garnet]

it's significantly louder than my other pwm fans in the case even at idle temps

even with little noise reduction cable thing they provide

[magic wave]

Does the bios offer voltage tweaking

[knotty eagle]

most of them do for CPU yes

[magic wave]

I can lower the voltage of the case fan on my grandma's old desktop using speedfan

So it doesn't literally scream

[knotty eagle]

Ohhhhh

Are these 3 pin fans?

if so, set BIOS fan control do DC mode

[gloomy garnet]

i have

still loud

[knotty eagle]

3 or 4 pin fans?

[gloomy garnet]

3 pin

[knotty eagle]

All of the fans are set to DC mode?

Some boards all the headers are individually set

Then you can set a fan curve in the BIOS as well

[gloomy garnet]

let me specify sorry, the rear is the only one that is 3 pin

[knotty eagle]

Ahhhhh

Is it on a hub?

[gloomy garnet]

so i want to get another 4 pin pwm

no, it's on its own

[knotty eagle]

Ah, and you've set that header to DC mode?

and the rest to PWM?

[gloomy garnet]

yep

did it that way to isolate the 3 pin one

[knotty eagle]

And fan curve set to something reasonable?

Interesting

[gloomy garnet]

my curves are set to be more quiet than loud ye

[knotty eagle]

Do you have fan control software on the PC like AI Suite or Dragon center or anything?

That might be over riding it?

[gloomy garnet]

I will never ever use Dragon Center again LOL

[knotty eagle]

XD

[gloomy garnet]

but no other fan curve software

[knotty eagle]

I'm kinda stumped then

Unless you have the pins lined up wrong

[gloomy garnet]

i am too

[knotty eagle]

Is it 3 wire as well as 3 pin?

or just two wires?

[gloomy garnet]

i checked 2x to make sure, yea 3 wire

i could try to lower the voltage on the fan header

[knotty eagle]

And it's reporting RPM in the BIOS?

DC mode should have it follow a curve so.....voltage I guess

Maybe it's set to voltage control and not curve?

[gloomy garnet]

yep, reporting the rpm. the curve is showing the fan speed

maybe the header is broken?

[knotty eagle]

I doubt it if the RPM is reporting and the fan is spinning. What board is this?

[magic wave]

The bios control of fans only enabled and disabled the ability to adjust it in software on the MSI 890gx I have, AMD software doesn't work and the old MSI software doesn't work, I had to use speedfan lmao

[knotty eagle]

Well, speedfan doesn't work on anything modern

[magic wave]

No no

[gloomy garnet]

msi mpg z390m gaming edge ac

[knotty eagle]

Like, B450 or newer for examply

[magic wave]

P sure 3xx is included in that as well

[gloomy garnet]

i'm about to move over to a new mobo soon, tho, so i'll try with that one

[knotty eagle]

Speedfan is so out of date

It's depressing

[magic wave]

I don't think I could use it with my H81

[knotty eagle]

I grabbed a manual, brb

[gloomy garnet]

remember that one mobo i had vintage, the one that had BIOS update issues? that's the one i was gonna use

[knotty eagle]

SO what header is that fan on?

[gloomy garnet]

One on the bottom leftish

I forgot the number of the header

I believe that one is sysfan 1 tho

[knotty eagle]

So I'd set it up from the fan screen so that it's DC mode, Temperature source is CPU, Step up time 3 seconds, step down time 4 seconds.

IDK how you have it set up though

[gloomy garnet]

I'll let you know when I'm home

[knotty eagle]

Or make sure the Smart Fan Mode box is checked

That will make it follow the curve

[gloomy garnet]

Okay, will check soon, thanks

[knotty eagle]

yw

[wary ore]

Thoughts on the Be Quiet Dark Rock Pro 4 for the Ryzen 5600x?

[low pumice]

bit overkill

[wary ore]

So Scythe FUMA 2 would be right amount?

the 5600x wont overheat with that one?

[low pumice]

I mean

se-224-xt should be enough

fuma 2 good too

[wary ore]

so the fuma 2 is slightly better than the se-224?

[low pumice]

se-224-xt is 30$

fuma 2 is 60$

[wary ore]

oh right, well im gonna go with the fuma 2

But does that mean the fuma 2 is twice as good as the se-224

if not, can you explain

[low pumice]

no

big chart but neat chart @wary ore

[wary ore]

i see, so roughly about a 2-4* different

[fervent canopy]

I'm not so sure which one to plug into or what's the difference on the Gigabyte B550 Aorus Elite with the Freezer Esports 34 Duo

Or my question is: Which one do I plug it in for my cpu ?

[knotty sparrow]

The fan goes on the CPU_FAN header, CPU_OPT is for a second fan if your cooler has one or four a case fan you want to match the CPU fan speed.

[fervent canopy]

Ah, and thank you very much Fal'Cie!, Now that's cool, I do have some spare fans for that

[weary slate]

Yea it's a nice feature if your cpu cooler fans didn't have a splitter built in

Or include one*

[knotty eagle]

A lot of Gigabyte boards say to use the OPT header for the AIO pump

[weary slate]

Ah interesting

[magic wave]

Run the pump at 100%

For the ultimate speeds 😎

[sweet tapir]

can someone here help me with a problem i have

[knotty eagle]

Ask the question, don't ask if you can ask

[brazen tartan]

anyone know why whenever i first turn on my pc, my fans runs faster and louder than usual

[knotty eagle]

Yeah, that's normal, until the BIOS loads and takes control of them.

[brazen tartan]

but then when i restart it quieter

oh its normal?

it stays loud until i restart

[knotty eagle]

Ya

Normal

[brazen tartan]

ahh ok thanks

[knotty eagle]

YW

Fresh BIOS Post they always louder, with a restart, BIOS has already posted

[brazen tartan]

i always thought it would save

but thanks for letting me know, i was worrying for nothing

[knotty eagle]

Yup, all good!

[livid tundra]

hi i need to buy a cooling fan for cpu intel i5 6400 but i dont find it, its a 4 pin

95 mm

[shrewd juniper]

Vetroo v5, gammaxx 400 or id cooling se 224xt

Should do

[livid tundra]

i need a 95 mm but it all 120 mm

[shrewd juniper]

Why do you need 95mm?

[livid tundra]

a cooling fan for a i5 6400 4 pin mine doesn't work anymore

[weary slate]

You're better off replacing the whole cooler rather than just replacing the broken fan on your heataink

[shrewd juniper]

^

[livid tundra]

a ok I didn't think about it

[weary slate]

I don't think you can just buy any 92mm fan and have it work on the Intel heatsink and you can get a new heatsink for like $20-25

[shrewd juniper]

If it's an aftermarket cooler you can but a gammaxx 400 is like 23$

And better

But if it's stock it's not replaceable at least too my knowledge

[weary slate]

You can pull the old one off but you'd have to replace it with another fan from an Intel stock cooler and if you're buying an Intel stock cooler you ight as well but a good cooler

[shrewd juniper]

Yeah lol

Stock cooler only okay(sometimes) because it's free lol

[livid tundra]

OK so that's what exactly i could buy and screw it after the motherboard to replace my cooling fan

[shrewd juniper]

Huh?

[livid tundra]

https://w ww.startech.com/en-ca/computer-parts/fan1156pwm

i find this you think it good for me?

[magic wave]

be quiet! Pure Rock Slim or Slim 2 are 92mm tower coolers if you need a bit lower profile than a Hyper 212 or an SE 224XT

[low pumice]

@magic wave I think they were talking about fan size at that point lel

[magic wave]

Yea Ic

Owel

[little skiff]

I'd say if the fan on the stock cooler is dead, probably a better investment to just replace the whole cooler.

[fervent canopy]

It gets a little bit loud with all fans at Full Speed, definitely keeps the cpu at 30c while gaming

But i'd stick with Normal Speed for decent decibels

[gentle snow]

Thoughts about Freezer 34 Duo Esport? I am gonna buy it

[magic wave]

Run the pump at 100%

Not the fans lmao

[weary slate]

I have the older freezer 33 esports one and it works pretty well. I don't know if it's the most cost effective choice since I haven't looked in a while but it should work pretty well

[shrewd juniper]

Get a gammaxx 400, vetroo v5 or Id cooling se224xt for the 23-35$ coolers, if you want to spend more get scythe fuma 2 for around 60$

[gentle snow]

Gammaxx 400 doesn’t fit on a 1200 socket cpu

[timid carbon]

It does...

[shrewd juniper]

It doess

[languid gale]

Is the vrm fan on the Arctic freezer II a gimmick or does it actually do something?

[low pumice]

@languid gale actually helps with VRM temps in GN testing, but about how much lowering VRM temps matter, depends on the board and how hard you're running your board.

[languid gale]

It’s a crosshair VIII hero and I’m running a light OC on my 3700x

[shrewd juniper]

You probs won't notice a diff that's a v nice board

[gentle snow]

May i ask what vrm is?

[knotty eagle]

Cpu power supply

[low pumice]

Voltage regulator module

turns 12v from the PSU 12v rail into the 1.2v/1.3v/whatever your chip takes

[magic wave]

real cpus take full 240v 😤

[wild fulcrum]

I am not very versed in all the acronyms and functions of certain parts of my (new-ish) PC, and I have a question on the optimal radiator/fan plug arrangement. I have a 200mm front fan, 140mm fan in back, and a 240mm radiator on top.

I have a CPU_FAN1 , PWM_CFG1 , CHA_FAN1/WP , and CHA_FAN3/WP options on the front of my motherboard with PWM Hub on the back.

Currently, I have the pump connected to the CPU_FAN1, the two 120mm fans on the rad to CHA_FAN1/WP, the PWM Hub connected to PWM_CFG1, and the two case fans connected to the PWM hub but these two don't spin.

[languid gale]

How big of the a difference is it if I install my radiator tubes up? It’s the only way I can since the tubes are too short to have them on the bottom

[shrewd juniper]

It's fine dw as long as the block is below the rad

[mortal orbit]

i want to buy a gaming pc in new egg but I don't know if my purchase is safe

[shrewd juniper]

As long as it's shipped by newegg it's safe, 3rd party shipping can iffy

[mortal orbit]

ok, thanks

[knotty sparrow]

What case and motherboard is it so we can check the manual?
Generally the AIO fans go in the CPU_FAN and the pump will go into a different header, where it should be set to run 100% all the time.

[wild fulcrum]

Phanteks Enthoo Pro case; ASRock Z390 Pro4 motherboard

[knotty sparrow]

Ok, do like I said previously for the AIO fans and pump.
The rest of the fans can be all connected to the hub, and the hub will be connected to one of the CHA_FAN slots.

[languid gale]

I just installed my AIO yet I keep getting a CPU fan error

[shrewd juniper]

Did you connect the aio fans to the cpu fan header?

[languid gale]

Nvm turns out with the Arctic freezer II you’re supposed to plug the pump in the cpu fan header instead of AIO pump

[shrewd juniper]

Well the fans are supposed to go there yes, there might be a pump header on the aio I'm not too sure tho

[languid gale]

There’s only one cable coming out of the actual cooler

Supposedly it’s so it cuts down on cable management

[knotty sparrow]

Right, one will be coming out of the pump and then each fan should have one too

[languid gale]

Nope, the fans don’t have anything coming out of them

Arctic made it so everything is linked through that one cable

[shrewd juniper]

Ehh?

But you screw the fans on?

[languid gale]

Yeah, theyre running

still trying to figure out the rgb aspect tho

[shrewd juniper]

Rgb def has diff lead

[languid gale]

Nvm i figured it out, forgot i need aura sync

[shrewd juniper]

For arctic?

Aura sync is asus ?

[languid gale]

yeah my mobo is asus

[shrewd juniper]

No wait thats armory crate idk

You can do in bios

[languid gale]

its connected to the RGB header so i need to configure it through aura sync

too lazy to go back into bios haha

[shrewd juniper]

Fair

I guess the rgb aio comes with preinsatalled fans then

[unique lily]

AlecFencer#2894 has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

[languid gale]

Well shoot

2 completely different types of connectors

[knotty eagle]

Are those cooler master or Corsair fans?

Looks like it goes to a hub

[languid gale]

Arctic fans

[knotty eagle]

Arctic what

P12?

[languid gale]

Yeah

[knotty eagle]

RGB?

[languid gale]

Yeah rgb P12s

Case is a Thermaltake Core V31

Why?

[knotty eagle]

The cable on the right in your hand, where'd that come from?

[languid gale]

My PSU

It’s a Corsair HX750

[knotty eagle]

OH, that's a power connector

for floppy drives

forget it exists

XD

[languid gale]

Lmao XD

It worked for the fans so I thought that’s what it was

[knotty eagle]

M, no

The one on the left should go to a splitter cable then the MB RGB header

[languid gale]

I found an old cable lying around

So I think it should work now

[knotty eagle]

Old what cable

[languid gale]

I just have to figure out where it plugs into

[knotty eagle]

Where does it come from

That looks like Thunderbolt or something

[languid gale]

Nvm it won’t work my mobo doesn’t have any headers for that type of connector

[knotty eagle]

Well, where does it come from?

Case?

Front panel?

[languid gale]

Nope nothing

[knotty eagle]

So it's just a random cable you grabbed or??

I dun get it

[languid gale]

Pretty much

I have a giant box of cables lying in my room

One side had the right connector so I was hopeful

[knotty eagle]

For the RGB?

[languid gale]

Cables in general

[knotty eagle]

I mean

You should only need the cables that come with the case and MB

[languid gale]

Probably a bad idea to use a random cable but I’m kinda desperate

[knotty eagle]

and pSU

What are you trying to hook up here????

[languid gale]

The RGB fans

One connector is in, now I’m just trying to get the other one plugged in

[knotty eagle]

No splitter cable?

[languid gale]

Nope don’t have one

[knotty eagle]

Ya, hold on, pretty sure the AIO should have come with one

[languid gale]

Ok

[knotty eagle]

Huh, they haven't updated their website with RGB manuals yet

Most of them come with a splitter cable though for the RGB

[languid gale]

Yeah I just looked through everything, I didn’t get one

Nevermind I fixed it

Found some box in my pc that had the connector I needed to plug into and it works

So lighting works except it only does tints of green

[knotty eagle]

So those are 4 pin plugs yeah? Are your motherboard headers 4 pin also or 3 pin?

what motherboard is it

[languid gale]

It’s a crosshair VIII hero

Yeah 4 pin plugs

Ehh I’ll just order an actual good RGB controller instead of this one that looks as if it’s from the 90s

Any recommendations

Temps of the aio are good so that’s all that matters

[knotty eagle]

Just green colors means the R and B pins aren't connected so yeah, might be a controller issue

Just make sure the MB header says RGB and not aRGB

[fair walrus]

For the NZXT kraken, does it have to be plugged into an ARGB header on the motherboard? I have a GIGABYTE B460M if it helps, it doesnt have ARGB on it

If not im just gonna get the corsair H100 240mm

[knotty eagle]

Mmmm, I'd get neither and get the Arctic Freezer II 240mm RGB or EK AIO RGB

Better cooling than both the NZXT and Corsair

[shrewd juniper]

Or lian li galahad

If you want white

[knotty eagle]

That too but more pricey

Silver too I think>?

[shrewd juniper]

¯_(ツ)_/¯ mb

[scarlet seal]

anybody know what an average intel temp while gaming?

[knotty sparrow]

Depends on a lot of factors, especially which CPU and which cooler you have

[languid gale]

@fair walrus Definitely get the Freezer II, I just got mine in today and my temps dropped around 15-20 degrees

[sacred wren]

So without the story, i now have a coolermaster case with only 2 stock fans. A cooler master cpu fan on my 3600, its hitting 85 degrees celsius withouy my gpu fans on max, 81 with them on max.

And this isnt full load. this is using about 60% of it, if that changes anything

[knotty sparrow]

Leave the side panel open until you can add more fans

[sacred wren]

I was wondering about putting in a cpu cooler that provides airflow for the whole case

though everything else in my case stays cool, my gpu sits under 75

[knotty sparrow]

Well you could do something like the scythe fuma for around $60

[sacred wren]

alr thanks

[knotty sparrow]

Anything higher priced it's better to get a good AIO

[sacred wren]

i have no clue about water cooling, ill prolly stick to air

thank you

[knotty sparrow]

An AIO system would have no more maintenance than air cooling. It's a closed loop, never needs to be filled or anything.

[magic wave]

Aios are ezpz

[sacred wren]

ngl i just put my small room fan on top of my pc and its now dropped 4 degrees lmao

[magic wave]

Lmfao

[sacred wren]

still need to fix the cooling though

[knotty sparrow]

That works too
I have a box fan on my mining rig lol

[sacred wren]

long story short skytech screwed me over with the case of their pre build when i tried to replace the mobo. 450$ later here i am

fans werent compatible with other cases either

tho they did put a 500w psu instead of 600 so theyre sending me a replacement, so im gonna sell those 2 and pay for a proper cpu cooler

alr replaced it with an evga though

[magic wave]

Isn't sky tech one of those sketchy third parties on Newegg

[sacred wren]

idts

definitely sketchy af though

never buying from them again

seemed like a great deal, 1200 for a 3060 ti 3600 build

turned into 1750 with tax and everything

[knotty sparrow]

Oof

[sacred wren]

Yeah. Atleast its upgradable now though. ryzen 5000 capable mobo, 32gb ram as well as a 750w psu

[sacred wren]

Lowkey working

[shrewd juniper]

They actually shipped by newegg

[magic wave]

Yea doesn't corn also ship by Newegg

[fair walrus]

Does it require a ARGB header on the motherboard? Cuz i dont have one 😦

[languid gale]

There is no RGB on it unless you get the rgb version

[low pumice]

what

just get the freezer ii non-argb

[sacred wren]

tryna match my cpu cooler up, i think its a cooler master masterair pro 3

wait no

mine doesnt have the bronze

[shrewd juniper]

send a pic of it?

[sacred wren]

one sec

ima have to turn my pc off for that

oh waitg

i have one somewhere

Somewhere in here

By the ram, its upside down though

[shrewd juniper]

the underside of it?

[sacred wren]

I might have one top down

[shrewd juniper]

yeah

you can take a pic with your pc still on btw

[sacred wren]

my new case doesnt have a glass panel

so id have to open and i dont want to do that with it on

[shrewd juniper]

its fine ive done it plenty of times

[sacred wren]

this is it https://www.neweggbusiness.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=9SIV0MWBT21978&source=region&nm_mc=KNC-GoogleBizMKPL-PC&cm_mmc=KNC-GoogleBizMKPL-PC-_-pla-SXDOOL+Electronics+Global-_-CPU+Cooling-_-9SIV0MWBT21978&gclid=CjwKCAjwy42FBhB2EiwAJY0yQigsO7aSDNrAUVw7PNHOS97Rpdr8BCZxidp3Ii6aKD6QEF4f9cyHjBoCWZAQAvD_BwE&gclsrc=aw.ds

[shrewd juniper]

yeah basically a stock cooler, why did you want to know lol?

[sacred wren]

wanted to see how much a better air cooler would help

or if id need an aio

[shrewd juniper]

Nah aios not needed

[shrewd juniper]

What cpu you tryna cool?

[sacred wren]

3600 but my pc only has 2 stock fans now. Last night it was hitting 86 while under half load

skytech screwed me over long story short

[shrewd juniper]

Get a gammaxx 400, vetroo v5 or id cooling se 224xt

[sacred wren]

was also reccomended the scythe fuma

[shrewd juniper]

That's goood but not needed for a 3600

My 3600 only got to 66 when i went from stock to id cooling se 224xt

Under full synthetic load

[sacred wren]

you prolly had proper airflow tho

[shrewd juniper]

Nah i had an nzxt s340

[sacred wren]

ive got a cooler master n400 i believe

[shrewd juniper]

Bout the same airflow probs

Nzxt has horrible airflow

[sacred wren]

thanks

[shrewd juniper]

np

[sacred wren]

If i did end up getting an AIO, just to keep it all simple and be safe, would this be ok? https://www.amazon.com/CoolerMaster-MasterLiquid-Close-Loop-Cooler-SickleFlow/dp/B086BYYFG5/ref=sr_1_1_sspa?dchild=1&keywords=Cooler+Master+MasterLiquid+ML240L+RGB+V2&qid=1621340681&s=electronics&sr=1-1-spons&psc=1&spLa=ZW5jcnlwdGVkUXVhbGlmaWVyPUFNMzVXRDhMVE5NVEkmZW5jcnlwdGVkSWQ9QTAzNzU5NjcyRjA5TjNDMENSUTg0JmVuY3J5cHRlZEFkSWQ9QTAyOTc3NjNXMlhVNFFGUVpSMDEmd2lkZ2V0TmFtZT1zcF9hdGYmYWN0aW9uPWNsaWNrUmVkaXJlY3QmZG9Ob3RMb2dDbGljaz10cnVl

[shrewd juniper]

nah if you were getting an aio get the arctic liquid ii or ek aio

[sacred wren]

kk

[shrewd juniper]

just dont get a 120mm

and make sure you have the room for it

but aio def not needed

[sacred wren]

yeah thats prolly a good thing to check lmao

i was also thinking about getting a cooler that provided airflow for the entire case

[shrewd juniper]

you coud just get another fan

like an arctic p12

its like 10$ per fan

[sacred wren]

that might be better than a new cpu cooler

[shrewd juniper]

nah

[sacred wren]

can they be put in at any time?

[shrewd juniper]

a new cpu cooler is needed the one they gave you is 💩

[shrewd juniper]

ye

[sacred wren]

oh

i ended up not being able to cable manage, the pc shop that put it together said its part of the building process

prolly wanted me to spend more

[shrewd juniper]

bruh

[sacred wren]

so with the new cpu cooler my gpu and cpu will both run at a mediocre temp, do you think i should still grab a few p12s?

a 5 pack is $25 on amazon

[shrewd juniper]

yeah get that but make sure its the pwm version

acc even if its not get anyway lol great deal

[sacred wren]

its no the pwm version

not

4 of the pwm would be 32

[shrewd juniper]

get the pwm

5 pack not available?

[sacred wren]

nah

[shrewd juniper]

check newegg

[sacred wren]

4s enough anyways

[shrewd juniper]

its on sale atm iirc

the 5 pack is 25$ on newegg i think

[sacred wren]

the regular pack is 30

[shrewd juniper]

i think the 5 pack might only be pwm anyway

[sacred wren]

the pwm is 50

[shrewd juniper]

ohh yikes

just get non pwm then

[sacred wren]

kk

skytech is actually funding this, because theyre sending me a new psu since they put a 500w instad of 600w in my pc

[shrewd juniper]

nice

[sacred wren]

tho tbf i did buy a 750w evga so i lost money

but well ignore that

[shrewd juniper]

oof

did you not return it?

[sacred wren]

theyre thermaltake

so i dont really want that in my build with how much ive spent

[shrewd juniper]

fair :/

[languid gale]

What’s the difference between Corsair Ml,LL, and QL 120s?

And which ones should I get for case fans in a meshify 2 compact?

[low pumice]

arctic p12

ML is mag lev, I think LL is also mag lev, not sure about ql

ML no rgb, LL has rgb, QL has rgb

[languid gale]

I’m looking for rgb fans

So I should go for the Rgb Arctic P12?

[low pumice]

eh

rgb is just

@languid gale look at the most recent pinned message in #cases-psu-and-cooling

[languid gale]

Thing is I would only have 6 rgb fans so I doubt it would be that big of a deal

And wouldn’t OCP help with the 5v delivery

[knotty eagle]

OCP is protection

[low pumice]

Yea lol

@languid gale the issue is PSUs don't COOL the rail

Usually no heatsink

[languid gale]

Ahh ok

[low pumice]

Anyways

[languid gale]

So would it be too much rgb if it’s only 6 fans?

[low pumice]

Prob not

[languid gale]

So should I go for the QL120s or the Arctic RGB P12s

What’s the downside to using a static pressure fan as a case fan for airflow?

[low pumice]

Basically

Every fan has airflow and static pressure

Static pressure focused fans just have higher static pressure and slightly lower airflow

Arctic P12 is great as either radiator fan or case fan

[languid gale]

Ahh ok thanks

Yeah I’ll go with the P12s since I already have 3 on my radiator

[languid gale]

How do I replace the cable in my Arctic freezer II AIO? A power surge melted the insulation on the power wire

[low pumice]

uh

what

[shrewd juniper]

Ehhh

That doesn't sound healthy

[languid gale]

Rn I just have it wrapped in duct tape and it looks ugly AF

[shrewd juniper]

I don't think that safe

[languid gale]

What should I do then?

Arctic refused to allow me to send it back

[shrewd juniper]

Ehh ¯_(ツ)_/¯

[languid gale]

The cable runs through the actual pipes in the AIO but it’s only that section that’s melted

[low pumice]

electrical tape maybe

wait

@languid gale might be worth watching this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZQRwn-lecnk

[languid gale]

I’ll give electrical tape a shot

[languid gale]

Still looks ugly but better than duct tape

Shame warranty refuses to replace the aio even though I had it for less than 24 hours

[low pumice]

No offense but I'm pretty sure this counts as user error for most warranties

[shrewd juniper]

Yeah probs

[languid gale]

Yeah it does, even tho I can’t really control it

Oh well

https://www.amazon.com/6-6ft-Organizer-Computer-Protector-Management/dp/B08NJL5LYC/ref=asc_df_B08NJL5LYC/?tag=hyprod-20&linkCode=df0&hvadid=475809947475&hvpos=&hvnetw=g&hvrand=9624502529869074844&hvpone=&hvptwo=&hvqmt=&hvdev=m&hvdvcmdl=&hvlocint=&hvlocphy=9004538&hvtargid=pla-1074637433246&psc=1&th=1

I bought something like this to help with the looks of it

It’s a lot smaller than the one in the link tho

[strange niche]

Is there such thing as a laptop water cooler?

[sacred wren]

i mean

if you need additional cooling try a cooling pad

my brother got one for his and its keeping it pretty cool @strange niche

[strange niche]

I have a cooling pad. Is 80C ok for extended periods? What is bad? I want to see how low I can get that temperature 🤒

[sacred wren]

is that on the gpu or cpu?

and what kind of laptop is it?

[strange niche]

The GPU

[shrewd juniper]

Technically but it sucks

[strange niche]

It is an Asus

[shrewd juniper]

80c is not a temp to worry about

[sacred wren]

yeah 80c isnt awful, if it hits 85 though you might want to give it a break before it hits higher than that

[strange niche]

Ok. Cool ASUS GL702VS-BI7N12 17.3"

Ok. Cool. Just trying to twitch.

[sacred wren]

?

[strange niche]

As in play a nice game and have people watch and send me money 💰😸

[sacred wren]

oh lmao stream

[strange niche]

Apparently it is a thing. Who knew? 🙀

[sacred wren]

ive been getting into that recently too

fun, lil demanding playing cold war and warzone tho

cant have rt on for anything or everything is at 40fps

actually lower lmao

[strange niche]

And who knows Mr Beast might pay me a visit 😸

I have been trying to figure out what game to play.

[shrewd juniper]

Modern CPUs don't throttle did 95 or so

[sacred wren]

its a 7700

[shrewd juniper]

What you can do to help tho is get a laptop stand

[shrewd juniper]

Modern enough

[sacred wren]

also they said itss the gpu hitting 80 i think

[strange niche]

But when I ran a program to test the benchmark it got kind hot 🥵

[sacred wren]

rn i literally put my room fan on top of my pc till i can get proper cooling lmao

[strange niche]

About 80C. That seemed hot 🥵