#old-cooling | Newegg | Page 62

low pumice Feb 27, 2021, 2:17 AM

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kitguru results don't really help since that doesn't have much other aios to compare against

slender pagoda Feb 27, 2021, 2:18 AM

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In the video I shared he compares a few gives another perspective

low pumice Feb 27, 2021, 2:19 AM

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guru3d:

slender pagoda Feb 27, 2021, 2:19 AM

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I have been looking at so much stuff past few weeks there are so many variants and small nuances

low pumice Feb 27, 2021, 2:19 AM

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I just don't like that guy, I'm too lazy to watch a video where they don't give charts :P

slender pagoda Feb 27, 2021, 2:19 AM

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and how people test is all different

low pumice Feb 27, 2021, 2:19 AM

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I look at too much things, that's why I just want hard numbers and charts

slender pagoda Feb 27, 2021, 2:19 AM

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got ya

low pumice Feb 27, 2021, 2:20 AM

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all I know about that vid was I think mando told me H150i was the best aio ever according to mando

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and I just don't want to deal with that :P

knotty eagle Feb 27, 2021, 2:20 AM

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H150i is poo

slender pagoda Feb 27, 2021, 2:20 AM

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Corsair?

knotty eagle Feb 27, 2021, 2:20 AM

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Overpriced

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If you want rgb go ek 240mm

slender pagoda Feb 27, 2021, 2:21 AM

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I dont want RGB

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lol

covert apex Feb 27, 2021, 2:21 AM

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No one ever said you did

slender pagoda Feb 27, 2021, 2:21 AM

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I didnt say anyone said I did

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atomic jetty Feb 27, 2021, 2:28 AM

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corsair's not bad, the rgb's just easiest to manage if you're already using all corsair fans

gusty flare Feb 27, 2021, 2:29 AM

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Gammaxx 400 ex?

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i'mma just remove the rgbs in my canvas lol

magic scarab Feb 27, 2021, 2:33 AM

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slender pagoda I dont want RGB

Then get Arctic Freezer ii

slender pagoda Feb 27, 2021, 2:33 AM

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i did

magic scarab Feb 27, 2021, 2:33 AM

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Well ok then

slender pagoda Feb 27, 2021, 2:33 AM

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haha

atomic jetty Feb 27, 2021, 2:35 AM

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weird to me that the corsair 360 performed kinda butt, I'd be interested to see where the 240 fell

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mine works fine NYEHE

knotty eagle Feb 27, 2021, 2:42 AM

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Arxtic freezer ii then for no rgb

atomic jetty Feb 27, 2021, 2:42 AM

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for no rgb that is real hard to beat

magic scarab Feb 27, 2021, 2:42 AM

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I already said that

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He said he bought one already

atomic jetty Feb 27, 2021, 2:43 AM

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I didn't realize how relatively cheap it was until I double checked a minute ago

magic scarab Feb 27, 2021, 2:43 AM

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How much is it?

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More importantly, how much is an EK 240mm

covert apex Feb 27, 2021, 2:44 AM

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slender pagoda Feb 27, 2021, 2:44 AM

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Kraken z73 is better than RGB

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imo

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but it is very expensive

atomic jetty Feb 27, 2021, 2:45 AM

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yeah pretty much

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a lot up front for the display

magic scarab Feb 27, 2021, 2:46 AM

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covert apex

A: I hope you become a regular here

B: I need to get one a those

covert apex Feb 27, 2021, 2:46 AM

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I am a regular here for the most part currently

magic scarab Feb 27, 2021, 2:47 AM

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I mean regular like me

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Almost level 50 and I only started being active around Christmas

slender pagoda Feb 27, 2021, 2:47 AM

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oh dam

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how you level up?

magic scarab Feb 27, 2021, 2:48 AM

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Talking

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Every minute you are active and talking, you earn between 15 and 25 EXP points

slender pagoda Feb 27, 2021, 2:50 AM

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ohh dam

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i truly am a nub

steady agate Feb 27, 2021, 3:12 AM

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I'm looking into DIY custom water cooling, can anyone give me a run-down on the info I need to know?

magic scarab Feb 27, 2021, 3:13 AM

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I think @knotty sparrow knows a lot about th at

steady agate Feb 27, 2021, 3:13 AM

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SUMMON HIM

knotty sparrow Feb 27, 2021, 3:13 AM

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You rang?

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I know a little about custom loops, enough to get you started at least

steady agate Feb 27, 2021, 3:14 AM

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ok

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so what do I need to know about the whole shabang

knotty sparrow Feb 27, 2021, 3:15 AM

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You'll want to make sure your tube and fitment sizes are the same to avoid incompatibility. 1/2 inch, 3/4 inch, doesn't matter as much as it being uniform

steady agate Feb 27, 2021, 3:15 AM

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ok

knotty sparrow Feb 27, 2021, 3:15 AM

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EK makes good stuff but it gets pricy, more than average

steady agate Feb 27, 2021, 3:15 AM

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alright

knotty sparrow Feb 27, 2021, 3:16 AM

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You can mix brands to your hearts content, but there's a couple metals you don't want to mix usually

steady agate Feb 27, 2021, 3:16 AM

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such as...

knotty sparrow Feb 27, 2021, 3:16 AM

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one sec

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#building-and-recc-chat message

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Credit where its due for that list

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If you've got any specific questions, go ahead and ask me or one of the techies

magic scarab Feb 27, 2021, 3:22 AM

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You are going to get a message from mike soon

steady agate Feb 27, 2021, 3:22 AM

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who

knotty sparrow Feb 27, 2021, 3:22 AM

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Who, me?

magic scarab Feb 27, 2021, 3:22 AM

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You

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Fal

knotty sparrow Feb 27, 2021, 3:22 AM

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Oh, uh, ok?

magic scarab Feb 27, 2021, 3:22 AM

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He is going to ask you if you want to be a techie

knotty sparrow Feb 27, 2021, 3:23 AM

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Oh, awesome, thanks for the heads up

stark stratus Feb 27, 2021, 4:18 AM

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Should I get a nzxt kraken x73 or z73?

knotty eagle Feb 27, 2021, 4:18 AM

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Neither

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EK 240mm

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unless you HAVE to have that LCD display

stark stratus Feb 27, 2021, 4:19 AM

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I mean is the lcd display worth it?

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Cause im willing to pay more for it if it is

knotty eagle Feb 27, 2021, 4:20 AM

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It's $180

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EK RGB 240mm is $120

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IMO, it's not worth it but that's entirely subjective

knotty sparrow Feb 27, 2021, 4:21 AM

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Not really, you could do the same thing with an old android phone or raspberry pi, and then it would actually be visible unlike inside the case

knotty eagle Feb 27, 2021, 4:21 AM

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IMO, the RGB on this pump is pretty nice

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And has some of th e best cooling you can get.

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The only person who can say if the LCD is worth it is you. If it's worth $60 to you, go for it

stark stratus Feb 27, 2021, 4:21 AM

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That lcd is so temping but ik its a waist like how I got the rog thor

knotty sparrow Feb 27, 2021, 4:22 AM

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Is your case in a place where you can clearly see the CPU block? If not what's the point of an LCD on it?

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If yes, it's up to you if its worth it

knotty eagle Feb 27, 2021, 4:23 AM

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I mean, if it's on a desk and part of streaming outfit for bling, sure

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Otherwise I'd pass

stark stratus Feb 27, 2021, 4:23 AM

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Yea its next to me and I can see everything

knotty eagle Feb 27, 2021, 4:23 AM

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Could the extra $60 buy you a better performance part? CPU/RAM/Gpu step up?

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NVME drive?

stark stratus Feb 27, 2021, 4:25 AM

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I think my ram and ssd is good I have 32gb trident z neo cl16 3600 and a 1tb samsung 980 pro and a 500 gb 860 evo

knotty eagle Feb 27, 2021, 4:27 AM

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It's entirely subjective then. If you've got the cash, go for it. The only person who can tell you if a subjective thing is worth it to you is you.

knotty sparrow Feb 27, 2021, 4:28 AM

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It might be nice if you can see the LCD from where you sit, you'd know critical stats at a glance

stark stratus Feb 27, 2021, 4:28 AM

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Yea I think it would go good with my psu displaying the amount of watts being used

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Thanks for the help and insights!

knotty eagle Feb 27, 2021, 4:30 AM

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YW!

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Enjoy the new machine, sounds like some nice hardware

magic scarab Feb 27, 2021, 4:31 AM

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I’m green with envy

stark stratus Feb 27, 2021, 4:43 AM

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knotty eagle Enjoy the new machine, sounds like some nice hardware

Ended up getting the z73

knotty eagle Feb 27, 2021, 4:44 AM

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nice!

slender pagoda Feb 27, 2021, 4:49 AM

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stark stratus Ended up getting the z73

How much ?

stark stratus Feb 27, 2021, 4:49 AM

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slender pagoda How much ?

279.99

slender pagoda Feb 27, 2021, 4:50 AM

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stark stratus 279.99

Yeah its a premium price. I do think The LCD looks good though

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Congrats !

light fog Feb 27, 2021, 6:59 AM

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Picked up a new case fan.

loud plaza Feb 27, 2021, 7:02 AM

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LOL

knotty sparrow Feb 27, 2021, 8:52 AM

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That'll do. Good luck hearing your game though.

quartz gale Feb 27, 2021, 5:11 PM

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What argb case fans would you guys reccomend?

twin urchin Feb 27, 2021, 5:56 PM

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yes

topaz blaze Feb 27, 2021, 6:13 PM

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I'm getting 80 degrees on my 10600k with a noctua nhu-12s (brown version) I know I have it installed facing up in the case instead of how it's supposed to be and I wonder if that makes a big difference.

covert apex Feb 27, 2021, 6:49 PM

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Do you have any exhaust fans on the top of your case

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If your just blowing hot air up it most likely will just stick around the heatsink

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Are you able to send a picture?

barren hamlet Feb 27, 2021, 8:10 PM

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Anyone know some cheap but good thermal paste under 20

covert apex Feb 27, 2021, 8:10 PM

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MX-4

barren hamlet Feb 27, 2021, 8:10 PM

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Company?

covert apex Feb 27, 2021, 8:10 PM

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Arctic MX-4

barren hamlet Feb 27, 2021, 8:10 PM

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Can you send a amazon link

magic scarab Feb 27, 2021, 8:10 PM

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look it up

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lazy bum

barren hamlet Feb 27, 2021, 8:11 PM

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I'm on mobile its hard

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Harder*

covert apex Feb 27, 2021, 8:11 PM

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https://www.amazon.com/ARCTIC-MX-4-2019-Performance-Durability/dp/B07L9BDY3T/ref=sr_1_3?dchild=1&keywords=MX-4&qid=1614456696&sr=8-3

barren hamlet Feb 27, 2021, 8:12 PM

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Thank you 🙏

atomic jetty Feb 27, 2021, 8:24 PM

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Arctic silver 5 love_it

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The real question is where are you buying thermal paste for more than $5 steveconfused

onyx violet Feb 27, 2021, 9:00 PM

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what's a good fan curve to have if i only want my fans to be activated during gaming sessions? the intel stock cooler is loud, so i don't need it to be chugging at full steam all the time

knotty sparrow Feb 27, 2021, 10:20 PM

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Just play with the curve until you get it where you like. It's mostly up to preference.

atomic jetty Feb 28, 2021, 12:24 AM

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I think cpus generate too much heat even at idle for your fan to ever really stop

knotty sparrow Feb 28, 2021, 12:27 AM

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Unless you have a TEC or liquid cooling

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Then it could stop for a while, turn on to dissipate a little heat, then turn off

topaz blaze Feb 28, 2021, 12:29 AM

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thermal capacity go brrr

fickle arrow Feb 28, 2021, 2:11 AM

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Is the kraken x53 a good AIO?

knotty sparrow Feb 28, 2021, 2:12 AM

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Yes but expensive, there's cheaper ones that perform as good or better

covert apex Feb 28, 2021, 2:12 AM

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EK AIO, Arctic Liquid Freezer

knotty sparrow Feb 28, 2021, 2:13 AM

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Unless you really want that LCD instead of just RGB

fickle arrow Feb 28, 2021, 2:22 AM

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Thanks for the info!

marsh maple Feb 28, 2021, 3:40 AM

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Hey guys what do yall think of ekwb aio

knotty sparrow Feb 28, 2021, 3:40 AM

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Is gud

covert apex Feb 28, 2021, 3:40 AM

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Great AIO for the price

marsh maple Feb 28, 2021, 3:41 AM

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Ok great thanks

magic scarab Feb 28, 2021, 3:41 AM

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marsh maple Hey guys what do yall think of ekwb aio

the one that comes with those Asus cards or the one made mostly for CPU coolers?

marsh maple Feb 28, 2021, 3:42 AM

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CPU cooler

magic scarab Feb 28, 2021, 3:42 AM

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yeah they cool

topaz blaze Feb 28, 2021, 3:42 AM

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best rgb cooler

marsh maple Feb 28, 2021, 3:42 AM

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Ok great

covert apex Feb 28, 2021, 3:43 AM

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The EK Vardar fans are wonderful for radiators

topaz blaze Feb 28, 2021, 3:43 AM

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ML140s are great too if you want to custom loop

knotty eagle Feb 28, 2021, 3:44 AM

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WHAT

topaz blaze Feb 28, 2021, 3:44 AM

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knotty eagle WHAT

wot

knotty eagle Feb 28, 2021, 3:44 AM

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SOMEONE ELSE LIKES MY EXPENSIVE FANS

topaz blaze Feb 28, 2021, 3:44 AM

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its corsair of course i like them kek

knotty eagle Feb 28, 2021, 3:44 AM

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LMAO

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I always get crap for those

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My entire rig is ML's lol

topaz blaze Feb 28, 2021, 3:44 AM

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one person hears ll120 is bad then they bash every other corsair fan

magic scarab Feb 28, 2021, 3:44 AM

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Cody is a pretty cool dude

marsh maple Feb 28, 2021, 3:44 AM

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I was hoping to go with uni fans are they good

covert apex Feb 28, 2021, 3:44 AM

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Epic

magic scarab Feb 28, 2021, 3:44 AM

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ive never actually seen a pic of the Vardar fans afaik

topaz blaze Feb 28, 2021, 3:45 AM

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ML140s are the entire reason H150i pro/xt cools so good kekw

covert apex Feb 28, 2021, 3:45 AM

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They look pretty epic imo also

topaz blaze Feb 28, 2021, 3:45 AM

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unifans are garbage

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horrible pricing for the perf

covert apex Feb 28, 2021, 3:45 AM

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The price of them is rediclous

marsh maple Feb 28, 2021, 3:45 AM

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Yea

topaz blaze Feb 28, 2021, 3:45 AM

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never in stock too

knotty eagle Feb 28, 2021, 3:45 AM

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I've got a mix of ML120's and 140's

marsh maple Feb 28, 2021, 3:45 AM

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But I’ve been saving up for years

covert apex Feb 28, 2021, 3:45 AM

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Personally I only use Noctua fans but that's just me

marsh maple Feb 28, 2021, 3:46 AM

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Well this is my first pc and I got case and cpu already

magic scarab Feb 28, 2021, 3:46 AM

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covert apex Personally I only use Noctua fans but that's just me

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noctua just cant be beat

topaz blaze Feb 28, 2021, 3:46 AM

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if you don't care for rgb

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sure

low pumice Feb 28, 2021, 3:47 AM

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@topaz blaze ml bashing time

topaz blaze Feb 28, 2021, 3:47 AM

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low pumice <@456226577798135808> ml bashing time

god damnit

low pumice Feb 28, 2021, 3:47 AM

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GT ftw time

knotty eagle Feb 28, 2021, 3:47 AM

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I mean, my GPU is at 65C loaded with my ML's at 900 rpm

marsh maple Feb 28, 2021, 3:47 AM

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I know it’s dumb but I want my pc to look good so I’m prepared to spend extra money

low pumice Feb 28, 2021, 3:47 AM

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or vadar

covert apex Feb 28, 2021, 3:47 AM

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I specialize in Workstations and servers though and I don't care about RGB or the looks of Noctua fans

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I like the unique colors imo

topaz blaze Feb 28, 2021, 3:47 AM

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i have 2 ML's then the 2 phanteks stealth whatever that come with p400

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gpu 65c max at 70%

low pumice Feb 28, 2021, 3:48 AM

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why buy MLs when you can have GTs >:D
https://www.amazon.com/Nidec-Gentle-Typhoon-D1225C12B5AP-Silent/dp/B017UX9DRA?th=1

topaz blaze Feb 28, 2021, 3:48 AM

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with undervolt oc n +1320 mem

covert apex Feb 28, 2021, 3:48 AM

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I forgot GT existed

topaz blaze Feb 28, 2021, 3:48 AM

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low pumice why buy MLs when you can have GTs >:D https://www.amazon.com/Nidec-Gentle-Typhoo...

Gib me a benchmark nerd

low pumice Feb 28, 2021, 3:48 AM

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I mean

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I actually have some

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brb

topaz blaze Feb 28, 2021, 3:49 AM

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not the stinky amazon links that confuse a ml120 for a ml140

low pumice Feb 28, 2021, 3:50 AM

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tada @topaz blaze

covert apex Feb 28, 2021, 3:51 AM

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Is that case fans or on a AIO

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Or what

low pumice Feb 28, 2021, 3:53 AM

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looks like both

topaz blaze Feb 28, 2021, 3:53 AM

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hmm

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hey

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i said ml140

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😡

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ml140 slander is not tolerated @low pumice

low pumice Feb 28, 2021, 3:53 AM

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too lazy

knotty eagle Feb 28, 2021, 3:55 AM

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I despise noise normalized testing. No one uses it in the real world.

low pumice Feb 28, 2021, 3:55 AM

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@knotty eagle tbh it's what everyone strives for

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that's what fan curves are for

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you want fans to be the highest rpm at the noise you can tolerate

knotty eagle Feb 28, 2021, 3:55 AM

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right, things get hot, fans ramp up

low pumice Feb 28, 2021, 3:56 AM

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Most people I know would try to keep fan rpm at a noise they can stand until it's close to throttling

topaz blaze Feb 28, 2021, 3:56 AM

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i just run it at the RPM i think won't degrade the bearings instantly

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for me i think thats 1800RPM

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not loud not quiet

knotty eagle Feb 28, 2021, 3:56 AM

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Right. My PC is quiet until I bench or game

topaz blaze Feb 28, 2021, 3:56 AM

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not running 2400rpm

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cringe

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jet engine

low pumice Feb 28, 2021, 3:57 AM

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fan curves like this imo

topaz blaze Feb 28, 2021, 3:57 AM

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low pumice fan curves like this imo

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/744000835108864057/761078858388602930/video0_3-1.mp4

▶ Play video

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Cmon who need fan curves like that! just have noise cancelling headphones then run static RPM 24/7

low pumice Feb 28, 2021, 3:57 AM

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@knotty eagle Right, but imo for most people, it matters more how much you can keep quiet than the max theoretical performance

topaz blaze Feb 28, 2021, 3:58 AM

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so 1800rpm

knotty eagle Feb 28, 2021, 3:58 AM

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low pumice <@!618616722840223754> Right, but imo for most people, it matters more how much ...

I would debate this

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People ask about the coolest, I hardly ever get asked about the quietest

low pumice Feb 28, 2021, 3:58 AM

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There's a reason why we don't just go for fanless

knotty eagle Feb 28, 2021, 3:59 AM

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Yes, fans move air

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The more air you move, the louder it gets

low pumice Feb 28, 2021, 3:59 AM

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@knotty eagle imo, people are always shooting themselves in the foot every time they just ask for the "best" of something xD

topaz blaze Feb 28, 2021, 3:59 AM

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actually hurt my brain trying to debate with somebody because they kept saying intel was best no matter hwat

knotty eagle Feb 28, 2021, 3:59 AM

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Well, it depends on what best they're asking for

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Which is why we ask more questions than the person asking for help

low pumice Feb 28, 2021, 4:00 AM

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But, I like to keep in mind some fictional noise level out there that marks the point between bearable and loud, and noise normalized helps compare fans for that noise level

knotty eagle Feb 28, 2021, 4:00 AM

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I do too but 35 DB is pretty dang quiet

low pumice Feb 28, 2021, 4:00 AM

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@knotty eagle ofc, but I already assume this is a consumer case, since this is well, normal 120mm fans, tis ain't delta fans

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depends on the person really

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I personally really dislike noise

knotty eagle Feb 28, 2021, 4:01 AM

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And I prefer things to be cold in my PC case

low pumice Feb 28, 2021, 4:01 AM

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My Arctic P14s are right about on the edge of me disliking them at ~60% rpm?

knotty eagle Feb 28, 2021, 4:01 AM

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Entirely subjective

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Hmmm

low pumice Feb 28, 2021, 4:02 AM

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Indeed, but to compare subjective things, we need objective numbers to compare them

knotty eagle Feb 28, 2021, 4:02 AM

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IDk what the max RPM of my fans are but 900 keeps things mostly cool

topaz blaze Feb 28, 2021, 4:02 AM

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how do i test how loud my fans r

low pumice Feb 28, 2021, 4:02 AM

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and that's where noise normalized come back in

topaz blaze Feb 28, 2021, 4:02 AM

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because its 1800rpm and its like whispering volume

knotty eagle Feb 28, 2021, 4:02 AM

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Not really because it's only ONE test at ONE noise level

knotty sparrow Feb 28, 2021, 4:02 AM

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Turbulence is technically the noise you hear at higher rpm

knotty eagle Feb 28, 2021, 4:02 AM

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IMO, they should do multiple noise levels

knotty sparrow Feb 28, 2021, 4:02 AM

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Better fan = less turbulence

low pumice Feb 28, 2021, 4:02 AM

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Oh ofc

knotty eagle Feb 28, 2021, 4:02 AM

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I'd be willing to bet these lists would change quite a bit

low pumice Feb 28, 2021, 4:03 AM

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I don't want ONLY noise normalized testing

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I want full speed and some noise normalized testing

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But I feel that it is important that the noise be kept in mind with some noise normalized testing

knotty eagle Feb 28, 2021, 4:03 AM

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WHich we don't get, we just get testing at one relatively quiet noise level

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Where I'd imagine plenty of people would be OK with more noise and better temps

low pumice Feb 28, 2021, 4:04 AM

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In general, reviews usually have both max and noise normalized temps with they test noise normalized

knotty eagle Feb 28, 2021, 4:04 AM

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I'm not talking ear screeshing jet engines tho

topaz blaze Feb 28, 2021, 4:04 AM

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max and noise normalized is a bad test for ml140

knotty eagle Feb 28, 2021, 4:04 AM

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Indeed, GN used to do that and the results changed quite a bit

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For example, at full tilt boogie, my CLC 360 topped the cooling list

topaz blaze Feb 28, 2021, 4:04 AM

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because my 1800rpm is quiet but when i put it at 2400 it gets loud as hell

low pumice Feb 28, 2021, 4:04 AM

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I mean, you'd imagine that, but I personally, with my experience, imagine a lot of people would be like me and sensitive to that sound

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I also want to say, @knotty eagle you got closed back headphones, I got open back >:P

knotty eagle Feb 28, 2021, 4:05 AM

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Yes, because I love my wife and she's working on her Masters in the same room I am

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If not for that, I'd probably have open backs

low pumice Feb 28, 2021, 4:06 AM

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Oh well, I find noise normalized very important because of how sensitive I am to that noise

knotty eagle Feb 28, 2021, 4:06 AM

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Don't get me wrong, it IS important

low pumice Feb 28, 2021, 4:07 AM

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And in general, I believe it's a better way to compare fans up to a point

knotty eagle Feb 28, 2021, 4:07 AM

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I just don't think it's relevant to real world

low pumice Feb 28, 2021, 4:07 AM

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I feel it's important and relevant, although of course it's not directly relevant, ain't nobody going to be making sure their fans are 30dBa at 1m from the case >:P

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But I believe it's extremely important and relevant for a benchmark of what you could say "performance per noise"

knotty eagle Feb 28, 2021, 4:08 AM

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But, it's performance at A noise

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not performance PER noise

low pumice Feb 28, 2021, 4:08 AM

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Indeed

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But can you test every noise? Not exactly

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As long as it's a good noise that can be achieved with most fans, I believe that's a great place to benchmark them against each other

knotty eagle Feb 28, 2021, 4:09 AM

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No but you could do 40 and 45 DBA

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Which, IMO, are reasonable noise levels

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Especially if the PC is under your desk

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But in a case like an H510, you'd never get there anyway because it's a closed box XD

low pumice Feb 28, 2021, 4:10 AM

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I need to test my own noise at some point some how, but it's extremely noticeable for me, even though my PC is under my desk in front of me

knotty sparrow Feb 28, 2021, 4:10 AM

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🔥

low pumice Feb 28, 2021, 4:10 AM

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Of course, dat's just me

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But if I exist, other people like me most likely exist

knotty eagle Feb 28, 2021, 4:11 AM

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I'm not saying they don't

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I'm saying

low pumice Feb 28, 2021, 4:11 AM

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And also, I'm definitely not against more data points, the more data the better

knotty eagle Feb 28, 2021, 4:11 AM

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Think back to all the people that have asked for builds

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How many have asked for quiet vs best cooling etc?

low pumice Feb 28, 2021, 4:11 AM

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But I feel it's unfeasible to manage all those datapoints

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enough imo

knotty eagle Feb 28, 2021, 4:11 AM

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I'm being honest here

low pumice Feb 28, 2021, 4:12 AM

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From my memory, it's like 1:2 of people who specifically ask for noise vs performance

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the rest just want a build

knotty eagle Feb 28, 2021, 4:12 AM

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I can't remember a time except for Bob in Special Chat where someone specifically asked for quiet

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Right, they just ask for a build

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They don't ask for noisy NOR quiet

low pumice Feb 28, 2021, 4:12 AM

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I mean, about week ago (?) someone asked in #old-cooling about needing quiet fans

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I just see a spectrum, and for most, I believe they just want the middle

knotty eagle Feb 28, 2021, 4:13 AM

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I'm not saying people don't

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I'm saying the majority don't

low pumice Feb 28, 2021, 4:13 AM

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aka. They just want things that are good at everything

knotty eagle Feb 28, 2021, 4:13 AM

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Yes. And what if 3-4DB changed the cooling 5-10C in the case?

low pumice Feb 28, 2021, 4:14 AM

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That's why data would be nice, but I don't know of any fans that don't scale near linearily, where we can infer using just the data at noised normalized (say 30dBa) and max (say 45dBa)

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I still feel it's very relevant and important for the data noise normalized testing produces for consumers.

knotty eagle Feb 28, 2021, 4:15 AM

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Do they scale linearly though?

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Typically things that move a lot of air at low RPM don't do it at high RPM

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And things that don't move a lot at low RPM do so at high RPM

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Like an airplane propellor

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They're optimsed for a certain speed

fickle arrow Feb 28, 2021, 4:16 AM

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Wait so are the Corsair ll120 fans bad?

knotty eagle Feb 28, 2021, 4:16 AM

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No

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Overpriced but not bad

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There are better options for less

fickle arrow Feb 28, 2021, 4:16 AM

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Ohh okay

low pumice Feb 28, 2021, 4:18 AM

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I believe they scale reletively linearly from noise to performance for most fans, will need more actual data though

knotty eagle Feb 28, 2021, 4:18 AM

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This is making me want to get an anemometer and an arduino

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SHoot, maybe a pressure sensor and sound meter while I'm at it

low pumice Feb 28, 2021, 4:19 AM

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found the chart I was thinking about, not quite the data I was thinking of, but good nuff.

knotty sparrow Feb 28, 2021, 4:19 AM

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I have an old electronics kit from college I could set up as a dB meter...

low pumice Feb 28, 2021, 4:20 AM

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for some reason I thought it was airflow vs rpm

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but uh

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guess not

knotty sparrow Feb 28, 2021, 4:20 AM

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I could even program it to alarm at certain noise levels...
Potential parenting tool...

low pumice Feb 28, 2021, 4:21 AM

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More testing is always good

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The more info we can work off of, the more informed a decision we can make.

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Anyways, that was productive, maybe we'll have more concrete data to figure out of noise normalized is useful in generalization of noise vs performance at another time.

knotty eagle Feb 28, 2021, 4:36 AM

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On another subject, found a hidden RDP connection shortcut in My Documents folder

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Gotta investigate. Good chat tho!

shrewd juniper Feb 28, 2021, 4:32 PM

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Hey guys, i was wondering if i should upgrade my cooler on my r5 3600 from stock to a better cooler, any suggestions? Or should i even bother?

subtle flower Feb 28, 2021, 5:12 PM

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I'm starting to upgrade/clean pcs from pretty much everyone at work and would like to know if anyone knows decently performing thermal paste that's cheap to buy 10+ grams for.

knotty eagle Feb 28, 2021, 5:15 PM

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shrewd juniper Hey guys, i was wondering if i should upgrade my cooler on my r5 3600 from stock...

ID cooling SSE 224, Gammax 400, Vetroo V5

dull moss Feb 28, 2021, 5:37 PM

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Hey guys

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So I ran into a bit of trouble today

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I was cleaning my cabinet, and I removed the CPU fan, cleaned it, and then put it back.

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But now, my CPU runs 20°C hotter at idle, and reaches 100°C when it should be at around 60°C.

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Do I need to put thermal paste to slove the problem or is there anything else that needs to be done?

knotty eagle Feb 28, 2021, 5:39 PM

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Yes

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Any time you remove the cooler you need to replace the thermal paste

dull moss Feb 28, 2021, 5:41 PM

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And do I need to replace the paste periodically?

knotty eagle Feb 28, 2021, 5:42 PM

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Not really, every 3-5 years should be fine

dull moss Feb 28, 2021, 5:42 PM

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Oh ok

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Thanks ✌🏻

shrewd juniper Feb 28, 2021, 5:46 PM

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Thanks

knotty eagle Feb 28, 2021, 5:46 PM

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YW

river orchid Feb 28, 2021, 8:31 PM

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I'm looking for a waterblock for a PNY XLR8 RTX 3070, it doesnt have to be exactly for that card, if it can be modded slightly to work, thats good too

knotty eagle Feb 28, 2021, 8:31 PM

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Pretty sure ek has one. Need to check.

river orchid Feb 28, 2021, 8:33 PM

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They do? Ive been looking all over for one

knotty eagle Feb 28, 2021, 8:39 PM

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MIght be pre order?

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Swear I found one somewhere

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Hmmm, mebbe not

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-_-

river orchid Feb 28, 2021, 8:52 PM

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do you know of one that will work with modification?

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the pcb looks like a hybrid between the founder and reference pcb

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topaz blaze Feb 28, 2021, 10:33 PM

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does arctic Freezer come with a backplate?

covert apex Feb 28, 2021, 10:41 PM

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Your motherboard should

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It uses the backplate that comes with all motherboards

burnt wharf Mar 1, 2021, 12:08 AM

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I wanted to try to fit this cooler https://pcpartpicker.com/product/htkgXL/nzxt-kraken-z73-7311-cfm-liquid-cpu-cooler-rl-krz73-01

In this case
https://www.newegg.com/black-corsair-icue-4000x-rgb-atx-mid-tower/p/N82E16811139159

It says that it can fit that size in the front... I had read somewhere that you should have the tubes on the bottom for air bubbles.. Is that even possible with this case?

knotty eagle Mar 1, 2021, 12:10 AM

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As long as the highest point in the cooling loop is the radiator, not the pump, doesn't matter tubes up or down

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That Z73 is extremely overpriced though

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EK240mm is $120 and out cools it

burnt wharf Mar 1, 2021, 12:12 AM

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I have a https://www.newegg.com/enermax-aquafusion-240-liquid-cooling-system/p/N82E16835214099 from a shuffle. Just planning long term. I like the look of the display.

knotty eagle Mar 1, 2021, 12:14 AM

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You're paying $100 for an LCD screen on a pump

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$150 in fact

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Can probably make your own for less

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RTdniu3gn3Y

YouTube

JayzTwoCents

EVERY PC should have one of these! How to make a sensor panel!

I have been asked MANY times for a tutorial on how to make the custom sensor panel found in Phil's PC, and now my latest gaming rig... well, today we show you how!

Learn more about the Viewsonic Elite XG270QG and see current price at https://amzn.to/37fXdtZ

Recommended Raspberry Pi Panels for this mod
5" Panel - https://amzn.to/386roXY
7" Pan...

▶ Play video

magic sparrow Mar 1, 2021, 2:18 AM

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I mean why not spend like $60 - $120 and make your entire sidepanel a screen

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that's like the whackiest kinds of panels

topaz blaze Mar 1, 2021, 4:49 AM

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best low profile cooler?

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i dont like the look of towers

atomic jetty Mar 1, 2021, 4:49 AM

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that one scythe cooler, I forget the name

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shuriken 2

harsh orbit Mar 1, 2021, 4:58 AM

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how are the sickleflow 120 v2 argb fans
i just got one

magic wave Mar 1, 2021, 5:00 AM

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Sickly kekw

harsh orbit Mar 1, 2021, 5:02 AM

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😐

twilit fog Mar 1, 2021, 6:53 AM

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any good waterblocks for 3070 strizx

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other then the corsair one

knotty sparrow Mar 1, 2021, 6:55 AM

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https://www.ekwb.com/shop/ek-quantum-vector-strix-rtx-3070-d-rgb-nickel-plexi

EKWB - Premium Liquid Cooling solutions

EK-Quantum Vector Strix RTX 3070 D-RGB - Nickel + Plexi

This is the 2nd generation Vector GPU water block from the EK® Quantum Line, designed for graphics cards based on the latest NVIDIA® Ampere™ architecture. For a precise compatibility match of this water block, we recommend you refer to the EK Cooling Configurator.

twilit fog Mar 1, 2021, 6:55 AM

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thank you was just looking at that now. Would you happen to know if corsair soft tubing fittings work with this?

knotty sparrow Mar 1, 2021, 6:59 AM

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It looks like it uses 1/4 inch so it should if its the same size

dull moss Mar 1, 2021, 6:59 AM

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Folks any tips for someone applying thermal paste for the first time?

Quantity and where to apply it is what I'm looking for...

knotty sparrow Mar 1, 2021, 6:59 AM

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About a pea sized drop in the center of the CPU is fine

magic scarab Mar 1, 2021, 6:59 AM

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Just put a pea drop on the CPU and put the cooler on

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Nothing special

dull moss Mar 1, 2021, 7:02 AM

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SOMEHOW, it's running hotter than before I put the paste on. What did I do wrong? I think I didn't put enough of it...

twilit fog Mar 1, 2021, 7:02 AM

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should I get Corsair Hydro X Series XG7 RGB 30-Series Strix GPU Water Block

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or ek waterblock

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or this one https://www.amazon.com/Bykski-Coverage-Water-Backplate-N-AS3070STRIX-X/dp/B08P3LKQ3M/ref=sr_1_2?dch

magic scarab Mar 1, 2021, 7:04 AM

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dull moss SOMEHOW, it's running hotter than before I put the paste on. What did I do wrong...

Did you plug the fan header in correct?

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Is the fan spinning?

knotty sparrow Mar 1, 2021, 7:04 AM

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Not likely that it's not enough paste, maybe mounting pressure too low/high

dull moss Mar 1, 2021, 7:04 AM

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magic scarab Did you plug the fan header in correct?

Yes it's spinning

magic scarab Mar 1, 2021, 7:04 AM

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Probably what Fal’Cie said then

dull moss Mar 1, 2021, 7:04 AM

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knotty sparrow Not likely that it's not enough paste, maybe mounting pressure too low/high

YES! I removed the fan, and the pressure is too low

magic scarab Mar 1, 2021, 7:05 AM

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By pressure he means physical presdure

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On the CPU

knotty sparrow Mar 1, 2021, 7:05 AM

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You want to screw it in as tight as you can, equally on both sides

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Without tools

dull moss Mar 1, 2021, 7:05 AM

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magic scarab By pressure he means physical presdure

Yes the paste didn't spread enough

dull moss Mar 1, 2021, 7:05 AM

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knotty sparrow You want to screw it in as tight as you can, equally on both sides

Should I put a bit more paste too?

magic scarab Mar 1, 2021, 7:05 AM

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If anything you need to reapply paste completely

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We also don’t know exactly how much you put on

twilit fog Mar 1, 2021, 7:06 AM

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wait I have a question

knotty sparrow Mar 1, 2021, 7:06 AM

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Removing the cooler means you need to start over anyway. DM a pic of how much you used before you remove it and try again.

magic scarab Mar 1, 2021, 7:06 AM

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Yes Nate?

twilit fog Mar 1, 2021, 7:06 AM

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If I buy a waterblock for 3070 strix do I need more thermal pads?

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or can I just reuse the ones that came with the card

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or does the waterblock come with some

magic scarab Mar 1, 2021, 7:08 AM

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Just get some graphite ones off Amazon

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They’re $10 anyways

twilit fog Mar 1, 2021, 7:09 AM

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but do I need them?

magic scarab Mar 1, 2021, 7:10 AM

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I assume so

knotty sparrow Mar 1, 2021, 7:10 AM

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It depends on the block/backplate you get but the stock ones are garbage

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EK includes pads

twilit fog Mar 1, 2021, 7:13 AM

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okay

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Im just going to buy ek then

knotty sparrow Mar 1, 2021, 7:17 AM

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The corsair doesn't look too bad and has pre-applied thermal pads too

twilit fog Mar 1, 2021, 7:17 AM

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yeah

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oh it does?

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hmmm

knotty sparrow Mar 1, 2021, 7:18 AM

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That clear acrylic one from a random brand I've never heard of, probably avoid that one

twilit fog Mar 1, 2021, 7:18 AM

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biski

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something like that

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Its not a random brand its an well know brand that makes pretty good waterblocks

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I just dont know if it would come with thermal pads

knotty sparrow Mar 1, 2021, 7:20 AM

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Reviewers are saying the corsair does, let me check the bykski but I'd still avoid it because 1. no rgb and 2. the whole thing looks like it's just acrylic

twilit fog Mar 1, 2021, 7:20 AM

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I thought it had rgb

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it has no reviews

dull moss Mar 1, 2021, 7:21 AM

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UPDATE: Looks like I did it perfectly this time. It's now running cooler than before I had opened it up. Thanks to everyone over here...

knotty sparrow Mar 1, 2021, 7:21 AM

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Oh yeah it does have rgb

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An argb strip that goes around the outer edge from the look of it

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It says that it includes "thermal grease" so do with that what you will

atomic jetty Mar 1, 2021, 7:24 AM

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Corsair waterblocks have a history of leaky fittings

knotty sparrow Mar 1, 2021, 7:24 AM

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Personally I'd just go with the EK, I like the look and they have good reputation

twilit fog Mar 1, 2021, 7:27 AM

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Im going to go with ek and corsair fittings

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ek waterblock*

knotty sparrow Mar 1, 2021, 7:28 AM

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Fittings are pretty standard so shouldn't be an issue as long as it's the same size

twilit fog Mar 1, 2021, 7:28 AM

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think I should buy the backplate for the waterblock. Im going to have it vertical mounted so does it really matter>

knotty sparrow Mar 1, 2021, 7:29 AM

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Not technically, the back gets hot but most of the heat will be on the front anyway

twilit fog Mar 1, 2021, 7:30 AM

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its an extra 46 bucks for a backplate

dawn hawk Mar 1, 2021, 7:46 AM

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iirc corsair leaks like crazy @twilit fog

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id just stay EK

twilit fog Mar 1, 2021, 7:46 AM

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iirc?

dawn hawk Mar 1, 2021, 7:46 AM

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if i recall correctly

twilit fog Mar 1, 2021, 7:47 AM

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what iirc

dawn hawk Mar 1, 2021, 7:47 AM

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dawn hawk if i recall correctly

thats what iirc means

twilit fog Mar 1, 2021, 7:52 AM

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reason behind it is because i have corsair fittings already

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I have corsair waterblock and d5 pump

barren hamlet Mar 1, 2021, 3:13 PM

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be quiet silent wings 3 good case fans?

covert apex Mar 1, 2021, 3:16 PM

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yes

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Arctic P12 are great for the price

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$40 for a 5 pack

barren hamlet Mar 1, 2021, 3:29 PM

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covert apex Arctic P12 are great for the price

are they better or worse than silent wing 3

covert apex Mar 1, 2021, 3:29 PM

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Way cheaper and most likely just as good

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You wont see or feel a massive difference

low pumice Mar 1, 2021, 3:30 PM

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Need to check testing, but I believe slightly better in noise normalized

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slightly better or about the same

magic sparrow Mar 1, 2021, 3:48 PM

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@dawn hawk @twilit fog Corsair Ampere safe. Still go Bykski or Barrow tho. Every other brand costing more that isnt Heatkiller, Aqua Computer, or Optimus is basically just a waste of money. Asking for a premium price with meh quality (EK, Corsair, whatever)

low pumice Mar 1, 2021, 4:49 PM

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@magic sparrow quick question, a while back, didn't you say heatkiller rads are pretty good because of fin density? Where could I find specs on fin density? I assume I won't find specs, so if no specs, where could I find testing for cooling perf?

magic sparrow Mar 1, 2021, 4:57 PM

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@low pumice I dont remember where I got fin density. Might of guessed it from counting. When I looked at it I found some random test out there. Tho, considering there is almost no testing it's hard to say whether it was good or not (also cuz I cant find it anymore)

low pumice Mar 1, 2021, 5:02 PM

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gotcha

twilit fog Mar 1, 2021, 6:33 PM

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@magic sparrow so you think I should go for bisksi for ek?

low pumice Mar 1, 2021, 6:34 PM

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Bykski vs EK is completely price based afaik

magic sparrow Mar 1, 2021, 6:34 PM

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EK gives like 3c better temps for 2x as much

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EK almost never worth it other then like AIOs or smth

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At the price of what EK is there is Heatkiller and Aqua Computer which is better quality. With Optimus being the priciest but usually best

barren hamlet Mar 1, 2021, 6:44 PM

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best value 240mm aio?

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ping with response

velvet rain Mar 1, 2021, 6:44 PM

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@barren hamlet arctic liquid freezer ii

barren hamlet Mar 1, 2021, 6:44 PM

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ty

magic scarab Mar 1, 2021, 6:44 PM

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^

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beat me to the punch

velvet rain Mar 1, 2021, 6:44 PM

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lmao

barren hamlet Mar 1, 2021, 6:44 PM

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for $99

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right?

velvet rain Mar 1, 2021, 6:45 PM

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yea

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it has really good performance

barren hamlet Mar 1, 2021, 6:45 PM

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kk

twilit fog Mar 1, 2021, 10:08 PM

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.

topaz blaze Mar 2, 2021, 12:01 AM

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Okay which one of you nerds has a QL vs LL benchmark

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can[t find any

proven solstice Mar 2, 2021, 1:25 AM

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ql is a few cfm less

sharp jacinth Mar 2, 2021, 3:55 AM

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For the price are cougar AIO's decent?

magic scarab Mar 2, 2021, 4:06 AM

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What price are they

sharp jacinth Mar 2, 2021, 4:22 AM

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149 for 240mm rgb

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Usd

magic scarab Mar 2, 2021, 4:23 AM

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Nah

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Arctic time

sharp jacinth Mar 2, 2021, 4:39 AM

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Unfortunately I don't believe i can get that here for cheaper

vivid citrus Mar 2, 2021, 4:49 AM

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Arctic is just really good anyway

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A 280 is 114$ here from arctic and I assume that applies to all of the americas

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@sharp jacinth

sharp jacinth Mar 2, 2021, 4:51 AM

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vivid citrus A 280 is 114$ here from arctic and I assume that applies to all of the americas

Yeah unfortunately I'm in Australia and we aren't as privvy to decent tech pricing

vivid citrus Mar 2, 2021, 4:52 AM

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Oh, than why u useing usd lol

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Ooh you have a point

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https://www.amazon.com.au/Cooler-Master-Liquid-Addressable-Chamber/dp/B07CRGC899/ref=mp_s_a_1_3?dchild=1&keywords=240+aio&qid=1614660855&sr=8-3

Cooler Master MasterLiquid LC240E RGB Close-Loop AIO CPU Liquid Coo...

Cooler Master MasterLiquid LC240E RGB Close-Loop AIO CPU Liquid Cooler, 240mm Radiator, Dual Chamber RGB Pump, Dual MF120R RGB Fans, RGB Lighting for AMD Ryzen/Intel LGA1200/1151: Amazon.com.au: Computers & Accessories

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@sharp jacinth found this on down under amazon looks less sketchy than cougar lt least

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https://www.amazon.com.au/Enermax-Liqmax-III-240-ELC-LMT240-ARGB/dp/B08CS2NS1L/ref=mp_s_a_1_78?dchild=1&keywords=240+aio&qid=1614660962&sr=8-78

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And this

sharp jacinth Mar 2, 2021, 4:56 AM

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Ywah that's on Amazon au but still being imported from US

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Thanks though all the same. Will do some research I think.of the cheapest options I can get locally I think

vivid citrus Mar 2, 2021, 5:08 AM

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Well its all in the pump

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If its using the same pump as a more well known counterpart it is fine

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But a lot of sketchier companies like that will use older pump design, and age and AIOs dont love each other

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Also maybe try different websites or something

low pumice Mar 2, 2021, 12:47 PM

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@sharp jacinth How's this
https://www.centrecom.com.au/corsair-hydro-h100x-240mm-white-led-aio-liquid-cpu-cooler

Corsair Hydro H100x 240mm White LED AIO Liquid CPU Cooler

CORSAIR HYDRO SERIES, H100X - 240MM RADIATOR, DUAL 120MM PWM FANS, LIQUID CPU COOLER

teal wing Mar 2, 2021, 12:47 PM

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hey mr1111

low pumice Mar 2, 2021, 12:47 PM

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yes

teal wing Mar 2, 2021, 12:47 PM

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anyone here know where to get those stupid fan clips to mount a 120mm fan to a heatsink?

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i dont know what 2 search up

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i need 2 of them

low pumice Mar 2, 2021, 12:49 PM

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hm

teal wing Mar 2, 2021, 12:50 PM

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the wire ones

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low pumice Mar 2, 2021, 12:50 PM

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Yes

teal wing Mar 2, 2021, 12:50 PM

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im in canada btw

low pumice Mar 2, 2021, 12:51 PM

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@teal wing I found some, but overpriced and ships from China, at least we know they exist
https://www.newegg.com/p/38Y-01NB-00TZ2

teal wing Mar 2, 2021, 12:51 PM

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thats good i guess

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20$!!!! ill just make them out of paper clips

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lol

low pumice Mar 2, 2021, 12:52 PM

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lol

still vortex Mar 2, 2021, 1:09 PM

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Gentlemen of Newegg you've never failed me and I want your humble opinion on what brand I should base my build around, don't think about money just think about the quality of the product and reputation.

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The reason I post this here is because fans are gonna always be the first step in a brand themed build

low pumice Mar 2, 2021, 1:14 PM

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Well, if it has to be brand themed... You don't have very many options for brands that makes all parts, unless you're just doing a color theme? @still vortex

still vortex Mar 2, 2021, 1:25 PM

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Ehh... mobo and gpu are both Asus and will keep that the same more thinking about fans, case (need a new case either way), psu, and cpu cooler. Color theme is already Red/White

gusty flare Mar 2, 2021, 1:38 PM

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Just buy the popular/high perf parts instead of themed build

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Noctua alone is a big flex already lol

low pumice Mar 2, 2021, 2:40 PM

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Hm

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@still vortex imo, if you're going to do red/white build, I'd grab a White TD500 mesh, with just the included argb fans, CPU cooler wise, maybe a white Lian Li Galahad 360mm? Power supply wise, most of it will be covered by the PSU Shroud anyways, a good unit like Revolution D.F. 850w or something will do fine. (Assuming large budget, since themed builds are stupid if you don't have a big budget :P)

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Link to galahad:
https://www.newegg.com/lian-li-liquid-cooling-system/p/2YM-002Y-00002

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Link to TD500 mesh:
https://www.newegg.com/white-gray-cooler-master-masterbox-td500-mesh-white-atx-mid-tower/p/N82E16811119394

fierce parcel Mar 2, 2021, 3:37 PM

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anyone have a good reliable guide to watercooling? I've found/watched a few but still looking to learn

quartz gale Mar 2, 2021, 4:20 PM

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Td500 mesh 130 now?

still vortex Mar 2, 2021, 5:28 PM

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low pumice <@!659856808239693884> imo, if you're going to do red/white build, I'd grab a Wh...

Appreciate it and yes budget is not an issue

low pumice Mar 2, 2021, 5:33 PM

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@quartz gale white is for some reason, black still 100$

barren hamlet Mar 2, 2021, 5:47 PM

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nhd-15 worth $100?

low pumice Mar 2, 2021, 5:48 PM

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@barren hamlet imo grab a NH-U12a

velvet rain Mar 2, 2021, 5:49 PM

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if you have room in your case get a d15

barren hamlet Mar 2, 2021, 5:49 PM

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kk im asking because i wanna get my 9600k to 5.0ghz and i cant on hyper 212

low pumice Mar 2, 2021, 5:49 PM

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@velvet rain r a m

barren hamlet Mar 2, 2021, 5:49 PM

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i have lpx

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corsir vengance

low pumice Mar 2, 2021, 5:49 PM

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@barren hamlet always keep in mind silicon lottery

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What case

barren hamlet Mar 2, 2021, 5:49 PM

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lian li lancool ii

barren hamlet Mar 2, 2021, 5:50 PM

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low pumice <@759563886646001756> always keep in mind silicon lottery

no ive tried i cant

velvet rain Mar 2, 2021, 5:50 PM

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low pumice <@604123052976111655> r a m

bootleg

low pumice Mar 2, 2021, 5:50 PM

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And I had tiny ram that fit, forgot about d15, and got trident z neos that wouldn't fit under the second fan

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@velvet rain I don't want anyone else to suffer my bootlegging

barren hamlet Mar 2, 2021, 5:50 PM

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low pumice And I had tiny ram that fit, forgot about d15, and got trident z neos that would...

yeah but corsair vengance lpx tiny

low pumice Mar 2, 2021, 5:50 PM

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Anyways, I'd just grab NH-U12a to never have to worry about ran clearance

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And also it's a bit more aesthetically pleasing that it's square :p

barren hamlet Mar 2, 2021, 5:51 PM

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could it get 9600k to 5.0ghz

velvet rain Mar 2, 2021, 5:51 PM

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or just get a liquid freezer 280mm

low pumice Mar 2, 2021, 5:51 PM

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It's basically a d15

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Barely behind a d15

barren hamlet Mar 2, 2021, 5:51 PM

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velvet rain or just get a liquid freezer 280mm

to expensive

velvet rain Mar 2, 2021, 5:51 PM

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thats only $110

barren hamlet Mar 2, 2021, 5:51 PM

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also no space :/

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i have 240 space it top

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and in front

low pumice Mar 2, 2021, 5:51 PM

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If the chip can get to 5ghz at all, a u12a will get it there

barren hamlet Mar 2, 2021, 5:51 PM

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no 280

velvet rain Mar 2, 2021, 5:51 PM

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or you could get the 240mm version

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for $100

barren hamlet Mar 2, 2021, 5:52 PM

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persoanly i dont like aio's so if d15 is same price i would get it

velvet rain Mar 2, 2021, 5:53 PM

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sure

covert apex Mar 2, 2021, 8:37 PM

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How good are the Fractal Design Dynamic X2 compared to a P12

timid carbon Mar 2, 2021, 8:38 PM

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covert apex How good are the Fractal Design Dynamic X2 compared to a P12

#cases-psu-and-cooling

covert apex Mar 2, 2021, 8:38 PM

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lmao

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its about fans

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this is cooling

river orchid Mar 2, 2021, 9:56 PM

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Looking for a waterblock I can mod to work with a pny xlr8 rtx 3070, its kind of a mix between a founders and reference pcb, pic below

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barren hamlet Mar 2, 2021, 10:38 PM

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river orchid Looking for a waterblock I can mod to work with a pny xlr8 rtx 3070, its kind of...

which 3070

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oh my bad pny

river orchid Mar 2, 2021, 10:38 PM

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yeah

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idk where to find a waterblock for it

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every one ive seen isnt perfect

barren hamlet Mar 2, 2021, 10:40 PM

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EKWB only has 1 3070 water block

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did you already check there or no

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actually it doesnt say its compatiple

twilit fog Mar 2, 2021, 10:52 PM

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@barren hamlet Ek has more then one waterblock for the 3070

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Has one for the 3070 fe and one for the 3070 strix

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alteast the ones ive seen. They probably have miore

river orchid Mar 3, 2021, 1:26 AM

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https://www.ekwb.com/shop/ek-quantum-vector-rtx-3070-d-rgb-nickel-plexi do you guys think this would work if I modified the cutout for the power connector?

EKWB - Premium Liquid Cooling solutions

EK-Quantum Vector FE RTX 3070 D-RGB - Nickel + Plexi

This is the 2nd generation Vector GPU water block from the EK® Quantum Line, designed for graphics cards based on the latest NVIDIA® Ampere™ architecture. For a precise compatibility match of this water block, we recommend you refer to the EK Cooling Configurator.

knotty eagle Mar 3, 2021, 1:27 AM

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Is that the only difference?

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I thought pNY was reference board?

river orchid Mar 3, 2021, 1:28 AM

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from what I can see, yes

knotty eagle Mar 3, 2021, 1:28 AM

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Oh, that's an FE WB tho

river orchid Mar 3, 2021, 1:28 AM

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because of those two caps right above the die

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the ones in the upper left corner there

knotty eagle Mar 3, 2021, 1:28 AM

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Yeah

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Looks like it has a cutout for them tho?

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Right above the CPU block there

river orchid Mar 3, 2021, 1:28 AM

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yeah

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thats why that one should work, but it has the wrong power connector cutout

knotty eagle Mar 3, 2021, 1:29 AM

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Does it tho?

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Ah, looks like a single

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I don't see why you couldn't machine the rest for the second power connector

river orchid Mar 3, 2021, 1:30 AM

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I think so, I mean that cutout looks like it was for a 12 pin nvidia connector

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thats why im thinking this might work, but idk

knotty eagle Mar 3, 2021, 1:30 AM

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You'd need a milling machine

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Or a drill press at least

river orchid Mar 3, 2021, 1:30 AM

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dont really want to risk $100+ for something that wont work

knotty eagle Mar 3, 2021, 1:30 AM

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Actually, the spacing for the power connector is completely wrong

river orchid Mar 3, 2021, 1:30 AM

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are there any reference blocks you know of?

knotty eagle Mar 3, 2021, 1:30 AM

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Now that I look at it more closely

river orchid Mar 3, 2021, 1:31 AM

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yeah

knotty eagle Mar 3, 2021, 1:31 AM

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Byksi maybe? https://www.bykski.us/collections/gtx-rtx-3080-3090/products/bykski-full-coverage-gpu-water-block-and-backplate-for-galaxy-rtx-3070-metal-master-n-gy3070bk-x

BYKSKI.US

Bykski Full Coverage GPU Water Block and Backplate for GALAXY RTX 3...

The Bykski Full Coverage GPU Water Block and Backplate for GALAXY RTX 3070 Metal Master is a work of art! This full coverage block directly cools the video cards core (GPU), graphics memory (RAM) as well as the voltage regulator modules (VRM). By directly cooling these components you can achieve great temperatures! Alo

river orchid Mar 3, 2021, 1:32 AM

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THATS IT

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THANK YOU SO MUCH

knotty eagle Mar 3, 2021, 1:32 AM

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That's a Galaxy card tho?

river orchid Mar 3, 2021, 1:32 AM

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the cutouts look all right tho

knotty eagle Mar 3, 2021, 1:33 AM

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They do, there's a couple other on their site. have a look

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Crap, " EX series also adopted non reference design PCB with enlarged area for more relaxed component layout and low heat density."

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This is the Galax PCB

Bykski_3070_GPU_Water_Cooling_Block_For_GALAXY_GeForce_RTX_3070_Metal_Master_Full_Cover_Cooler_CPU_G.png

knotty eagle Mar 3, 2021, 1:36 AM

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river orchid the cutouts look all right tho

Looks pretty close

river orchid Mar 3, 2021, 1:37 AM

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e77fd91a-b9fe-4dc5-b7cc-894ba33d990e_902e6040-c4a5-48b0-b269-b70276eff8c9_500x.webp

knotty eagle Mar 3, 2021, 1:37 AM

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river orchid Mar 3, 2021, 1:37 AM

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river orchid

hows this one?

knotty eagle Mar 3, 2021, 1:37 AM

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They're all ever so slightly different :/

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Power connectors further back on teh Galax

river orchid Mar 3, 2021, 1:38 AM

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if there are slight changes that can be made for it to work, im down for that, I just need one that is a near fit

knotty eagle Mar 3, 2021, 1:39 AM

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nah, the stud on the Bykski will hit components on the PNY :/

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Top center here

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Doesn't line up with this

river orchid Mar 3, 2021, 1:40 AM

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argh

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ive looked at em all, none of them line up right, but its so close

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I wonder if there is anywhere I could get one custom made

knotty sparrow Mar 3, 2021, 2:52 PM

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Well, you could go with the approach of mounting a cpu block with the right size spacing and then cool the ram with a fan and heatsinks

river orchid Mar 3, 2021, 4:37 PM

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I was considering that, but the mounting holes are rectangular

chilly hare Mar 3, 2021, 7:11 PM

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should I be reading my pc temps in Fahrenheit or Celsius

knotty eagle Mar 3, 2021, 7:12 PM

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C

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Because any and all tests are in C lol

viral fjord Mar 3, 2021, 10:20 PM

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reporting pc temps in F is illegal

raw obsidian Mar 3, 2021, 11:40 PM

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Is this fine for front aio ??? Pls help

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And do they come with water already

covert apex Mar 3, 2021, 11:41 PM

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You cant even fill AIOs

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quartz gale Mar 3, 2021, 11:51 PM

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What case fans should I get to add an exhaust?

atomic jetty Mar 3, 2021, 11:51 PM

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arctic p12 probably gonna be the first response

quartz gale Mar 3, 2021, 11:52 PM

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Pwm or not worth

knotty eagle Mar 3, 2021, 11:53 PM

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PWM def

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for control

quartz gale Mar 4, 2021, 12:08 AM

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Difference between the p12 pwm pst and p12 pwm

knotty eagle Mar 4, 2021, 12:09 AM

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PST is daisy chain

quartz gale Mar 4, 2021, 12:18 AM

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Would transparent affect performance or is it just purely aesthetic ?

steady agate Mar 4, 2021, 1:09 AM

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Transparent is never for aesthetic

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Unless you are a spychopath

arctic basin Mar 4, 2021, 2:20 AM

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any cheap and relatively silent RGB fan recommendations?

sterile mirage Mar 4, 2021, 3:25 AM

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I've heard uni fans from lian li are silent and look pretty nice

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https://www.amazon.com/Lian-Li-SL120-Pack-White/dp/B08HDC9HKT/ref=sr_1_2?dchild=1&keywords=unifan&qid=1614828286&sr=8-2

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depends on what you're looking for though.

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nvm just realized those are a lotta money

vivid citrus Mar 4, 2021, 5:03 AM

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@arctic basin honestly like Entermax fans

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If not maybe check antec

arctic basin Mar 4, 2021, 5:04 AM

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I'll take a look, thanks

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any opinions on the upHere brand for fans?

atomic jetty Mar 4, 2021, 5:32 AM

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jayztwocents did a video on them recently, apparently they had a 6 pack for cheap but thanks to that video they're sold out :p

quartz gale Mar 4, 2021, 5:49 AM

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Well hopefully this artic p12 pwm fan for exhaust helps balance out my three front intake case fans

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Right now it is only positive pressure

gusty flare Mar 4, 2021, 8:43 AM

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4 Arctic p12 is just roughly $50 iirc

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Can get it 48 lol

gusty flare Mar 4, 2021, 9:04 AM

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SE-224-XT - $41
Gammaxx GTE v2 - $25
gammaxx GTE v2 but i buy 1 more arctic p12 fan?
which one should i go for?

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for 10400f btw

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i just don't wanna see the intel stock cooler

topaz blaze Mar 4, 2021, 9:08 AM

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gammax

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unless you wanna reuse coolerl ater

gusty flare Mar 4, 2021, 9:08 AM

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reuse?

topaz blaze Mar 4, 2021, 9:12 AM

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for a diff build/cpu

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@gusty flare

gusty flare Mar 4, 2021, 9:13 AM

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oh

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btw there's also a gammaxx 400 pro dual fan for $4 more lol

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tho the fan is led peepoSadSip

magic wave Mar 4, 2021, 9:18 AM

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Brown led

vivid citrus Mar 4, 2021, 1:12 PM

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I do like some of entermax’s coolers

amber lotus Mar 4, 2021, 5:06 PM

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is the nzxt kraken x73 good?

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gonna use a p500a case

knotty eagle Mar 4, 2021, 5:07 PM

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Overpriced as heck

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Paying $150 for that tiny LCD screen

amber lotus Mar 4, 2021, 5:09 PM

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what would you recommend then?

knotty eagle Mar 4, 2021, 5:09 PM

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EK 240mm

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for RGB

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Arctic Freezer ii for non-RGB

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Or Lian Li Galahad cooler

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If you want a fancy LCD screen, just make your own for cheap https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RTdniu3gn3Y&t=18s

YouTube

JayzTwoCents

EVERY PC should have one of these! How to make a sensor panel!

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Learn more about the Viewsonic Elite XG270QG and see current price at https://amzn.to/37fXdtZ

Recommended Raspberry Pi Panels for this mod
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7" Pan...

▶ Play video

amber lotus Mar 4, 2021, 5:22 PM

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oh cool

knotty eagle Mar 4, 2021, 5:22 PM

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Indeed

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The AIO with the screen is grossly overpriced

amber lotus Mar 4, 2021, 5:23 PM

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are the aio's you mentioned all 240mm?

knotty eagle Mar 4, 2021, 5:23 PM

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SOme have 360mm options

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EK, Arctic, Lian Li

amber lotus Mar 4, 2021, 5:24 PM

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whats the part that goes onto the cpu because i forgot the name

knotty eagle Mar 4, 2021, 5:24 PM

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Waterblock?

amber lotus Mar 4, 2021, 5:24 PM

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ye

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the one on the arctic freezer ii looks pretty strange

knotty eagle Mar 4, 2021, 5:25 PM

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It has a fan for cooling the VRM on the motherboard

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Actually kinda works

amber lotus Mar 4, 2021, 5:26 PM

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interesting

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the lian li galahan has a removable metal peice

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which shows the lian li logo

knotty eagle Mar 4, 2021, 5:28 PM

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Yes, they're nice looking

amber lotus Mar 4, 2021, 5:28 PM

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the radiator looks slim along with the fans

knotty eagle Mar 4, 2021, 5:29 PM

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Any of those three will provide the best cooling for the money

amber lotus Mar 4, 2021, 5:29 PM

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cool... literally

knotty eagle Mar 4, 2021, 5:30 PM

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Ha, yeah

amber lotus Mar 4, 2021, 5:58 PM

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i have chosen to get the galahad

knotty eagle Mar 4, 2021, 5:59 PM

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Good choice!

amber lotus Mar 4, 2021, 6:00 PM

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might buy from ekwb for clear custom loops tho

knotty eagle Mar 4, 2021, 6:01 PM

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EKWB makes good stuff

knotty sparrow Mar 4, 2021, 6:01 PM

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EK makes good looking loops but expensive

magic scarab Mar 4, 2021, 6:53 PM

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speaking of EK, I just bought a 360mm AIO from them

tired fog Mar 4, 2021, 6:55 PM

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which one?

magic scarab Mar 4, 2021, 6:55 PM

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lemme see

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should be the first one that comes up on wegg when you search "ek 360mm", with the vardar fans

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https://www.newegg.com/p/37B-000B-003G3?Item=9SIAC8WBB80797

topaz blaze Mar 4, 2021, 6:57 PM

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Damn 150?

tired fog Mar 4, 2021, 6:57 PM

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magic scarab should be the first one that comes up on wegg when you search "ek 360mm", with t...

smh i thought you bought the all black one

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what a gamer

topaz blaze Mar 4, 2021, 6:57 PM

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Then again its RGB and a 360mm

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Arctic 280mm is 114 now. Pretty good price tbh.

magic scarab Mar 4, 2021, 6:58 PM

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I like the RGB

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worth it to me

tired fog Mar 4, 2021, 6:58 PM

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ek 360 basic is like 115 last time i checked

idle tiger Mar 4, 2021, 6:58 PM

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Don't buy those ek kits lol

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Aren't they aluminum rads/blocks?

magic scarab Mar 4, 2021, 6:59 PM

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kit?

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you mean for custom loops or the AIOs?

tired fog Mar 4, 2021, 7:00 PM

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idle tiger Aren't they aluminum rads/blocks?

ik that the rad is aluminum

knotty eagle Mar 4, 2021, 7:00 PM

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The CPU block is copper in the AIO's

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Pump Unit Material: PETG and ABS Housing, Copper Cold plate, Steel Mounting Pump

magic scarab Mar 4, 2021, 7:01 PM

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the rad Im pretty sure is aluminum tho

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I'd have to check myself

knotty eagle Mar 4, 2021, 7:01 PM

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It is

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So are 90% of all AIO's

magic scarab Mar 4, 2021, 7:01 PM

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ever seen a silver one?

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that'd be hella expensive

knotty eagle Mar 4, 2021, 7:02 PM

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Nope. Not sure they make copper rads either

magic scarab Mar 4, 2021, 7:04 PM

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They do

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I'd have to take a second to find one but ive heard of them before

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they exist, no doubt

knotty eagle Mar 4, 2021, 7:04 PM

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I meant for AIO's lol

magic scarab Mar 4, 2021, 7:05 PM

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yeah ik

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I've heard of rads that are copper

knotty eagle Mar 4, 2021, 7:06 PM

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OH yeah, you can buy them for custom loops but they tend to be pricey I think

magic scarab Mar 4, 2021, 7:06 PM

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mhmm

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maybe I'll finally be able to overclock with this thing

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I'm sure I can get an alright clock with a 360mm AIO

idle tiger Mar 4, 2021, 7:11 PM

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Oh I was thinking of the ek fluidgaming custom loop kit

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Copper/brass rads are the norm for custom loop unless you go really cheap

magic scarab Mar 4, 2021, 7:12 PM

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you ever seen a silver rad, forks?

idle tiger Mar 4, 2021, 7:14 PM

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No, but if anything, someone would make a cpu block out of it just for the laughs

magic scarab Mar 4, 2021, 7:15 PM

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I'm sure some enthusiast would pay for that

knotty eagle Mar 4, 2021, 7:16 PM

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Because $300 for an AIO with a screen is stupid

idle tiger Mar 4, 2021, 7:16 PM

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Smart marketing on nzxt's part lol

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$30 ll120's are just as overpriced imo

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It's not even a good fan

knotty eagle Mar 4, 2021, 7:16 PM

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Literally paying $150 for that tiny screen

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compared to other AIO's

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Like, WTF

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$279 for an AIO is absurd lol

tired fog Mar 4, 2021, 7:17 PM

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there's only a few exceptions

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like

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besides that, yeah it's absurd

knotty eagle Mar 4, 2021, 7:20 PM

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I mean, you can make your own bigger display for like, $50 or less lol

magic scarab Mar 4, 2021, 7:21 PM

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I like Bleach's

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even if it is literally just an ipad he stuffed in there

magic sparrow Mar 4, 2021, 7:48 PM

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literally just buy the iBUYPOWER Snowblind S case (or make your own for much cheaper) and get an entire sidepanel as a screen

magic scarab Mar 4, 2021, 7:49 PM

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I'm sure there are other companies that sell sidepanels that are partially made with black mirror technology or something

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how much is the iBuyPower case...

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ngl that looks really cool but it doesnt look like it gets much air

topaz blaze Mar 4, 2021, 8:52 PM

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4000D is cool with front mesh. Glass panel looks nice

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and mesh

amber lotus Mar 4, 2021, 8:54 PM

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M E S H

topaz blaze Mar 4, 2021, 8:54 PM

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STONKS

amber lotus Mar 4, 2021, 8:55 PM

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mesh do be meshy

dawn hawk Mar 5, 2021, 12:57 AM

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yeah i like the snowblind case

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problem is theres ibp branding on it so people think ur brainded and got prebuilt keeeek

sleek fable Mar 5, 2021, 3:36 AM

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how do i know what size soft tubing I want?

knotty eagle Mar 5, 2021, 3:37 AM

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By the size of the fittings you buy

sleek fable Mar 5, 2021, 3:37 AM

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well im new to this

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all i know is everything is g1/4

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which is the thread

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so that wouldnt affect the size of the tubing right?

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i just want to get fittings that match the tubing size

knotty eagle Mar 5, 2021, 3:42 AM

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I'd recommend 10/16 for the first time then

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Thicker walls to prevent kinks

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10mm ID, 16MM OD

river orchid Mar 5, 2021, 7:25 AM

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looking for a pic of a reference rtx 3070 waterblock

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preferrably the dise that touches the die

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ping me if u have one pls

topaz blaze Mar 5, 2021, 7:39 AM

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river orchid looking for a pic of a reference rtx 3070 waterblock

Found this from EK

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you mean something like that?

river orchid Mar 5, 2021, 7:42 AM

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Like the other side of it

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The metal side

river orchid Mar 5, 2021, 7:44 AM

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topaz blaze Found this from EK

Can you link this if possible please?

topaz blaze Mar 5, 2021, 7:44 AM

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FE?

topaz blaze Mar 5, 2021, 7:45 AM

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river orchid Can you link this if possible please?

https://www.ekwb.com/shop/ek-quantum-vector-rtx-3070-d-rgb-nickel-plexi

EKWB - Premium Liquid Cooling solutions

EK-Quantum Vector FE RTX 3070 D-RGB - Nickel + Plexi

This is the 2nd generation Vector GPU water block from the EK® Quantum Line, designed for graphics cards based on the latest NVIDIA® Ampere™ architecture. For a precise compatibility match of this water block, we recommend you refer to the EK Cooling Configurator.

river orchid Mar 5, 2021, 7:46 AM

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The reference pcb, it’s not the founders, I can’t seem to find one

topaz blaze Mar 5, 2021, 7:47 AM

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river orchid The reference pcb, it’s not the founders, I can’t seem to find one

Oh, do you need a look at founders actual pcb?

topaz blaze Mar 5, 2021, 7:48 AM

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river orchid The reference pcb, it’s not the founders, I can’t seem to find one

This you mean?

nvidia-rtx-3070-founders-edition-gpu-vga-overclocking-32.png

knotty sparrow Mar 5, 2021, 7:50 AM

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I think he means the reverse side of the waterblock, where the contact plates are, for the reference card block

topaz blaze Mar 5, 2021, 7:50 AM

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Oh.

river orchid Mar 5, 2021, 7:52 AM

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topaz blaze This you mean?

Yes, but the one I have has two capacitors instead of one near the upper left corner of the gpu

topaz blaze Mar 5, 2021, 7:52 AM

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hmm.

river orchid Mar 5, 2021, 7:53 AM

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It’s actually a pny xlr8 Rtx 3070

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Reference pcb with added components

river orchid Mar 5, 2021, 7:57 AM

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river orchid

This pcb

gusty flare Mar 5, 2021, 12:08 PM

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Gammaxx gte v2 doesn't come with thermal paste right?

quiet cipher Mar 5, 2021, 3:48 PM

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I can install a hyper 212 rgb black edition on an lga 1200 socket right?

knotty eagle Mar 5, 2021, 3:49 PM

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What CPU?

quiet cipher Mar 5, 2021, 3:49 PM

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i7-10700f

knotty eagle Mar 5, 2021, 3:50 PM

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Mmmm, not sure I'd recommend that cooler for a 10700

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10700 draws up to 200 watts at full load

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Intel advertises TDP at 65 W but that's only at base clock

quiet cipher Mar 5, 2021, 3:50 PM

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On an asrock B460M PRO4/ac mobo

knotty eagle Mar 5, 2021, 3:51 PM

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Do you already have the motherboard?

quiet cipher Mar 5, 2021, 3:51 PM

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It's the f series without integrated graphics

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I already have the whole computer

knotty eagle Mar 5, 2021, 3:51 PM

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Ah

quiet cipher Mar 5, 2021, 3:51 PM

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I'm just changing out the cooler because the one in it is bad

knotty eagle Mar 5, 2021, 3:51 PM

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Well, B460 is going to hamstring it a little with slow ram speeds but I'd recommend a better cooler

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Something like this that kept a 5900x at 67C fully loaded https://www.amazon.com/Vetroo-Cooler-Processor-Universal-Socket/dp/B08F2BS9J8

quiet cipher Mar 5, 2021, 3:52 PM

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It's a prebuilt because it was a really good price, they sent me this as a replacement under warranty

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But it's definitely better than what was there before

knotty eagle Mar 5, 2021, 3:52 PM

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The 212 has a hard time with an AMD 3700x that only does 120W

quiet cipher Mar 5, 2021, 3:52 PM

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It was sitting at like 85c+ playing COD

knotty eagle Mar 5, 2021, 3:52 PM

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yeah

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212 won't be a lot better

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I'd seriously get this if you want it to be cool or a Noctua or something

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https://www.amazon.com/Vetroo-Cooler-Processor-Universal-Socket/dp/B08F2BS9J8

quiet cipher Mar 5, 2021, 3:53 PM

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It's definitely better than nothing, the one in the system is like a $20 thermaltake

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And the one in it is barely working

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I just wanted to make sure it's able to be installed

low pumice Mar 5, 2021, 3:53 PM

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Gammaxx 400 can work too

knotty eagle Mar 5, 2021, 3:54 PM

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212 tests show 86C core temps on a 10700

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So not better than what you have already

quiet cipher Mar 5, 2021, 3:54 PM

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https://www.google.com/aclk?sa=L&ai=DChcSEwihq_nJwZnvAhWSwMAKHS0ZAcoYABAFGgJpbQ&sig=AOD64_21MOLIBAdDBjyWpXGheIGrlikDCQ&ctype=5&q=&ved=2ahUKEwj0gPDJwZnvAhVoB50JHQliC5QQ9aACegQIFBBC&adurl= this is what's in it rn

knotty eagle Mar 5, 2021, 3:54 PM

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Those are 212 tests. I'd highly recommend something else

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Also note the 100% fan speed

low pumice Mar 5, 2021, 3:55 PM

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Ew dragon center

quiet cipher Mar 5, 2021, 3:55 PM

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That's not good, maybe I will have to get something better

knotty eagle Mar 5, 2021, 3:56 PM

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Yes, that's why I said to lol

quiet cipher Mar 5, 2021, 3:56 PM

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I'm going to at least test this out since I have it here

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They sent it to me for free because of warranty

river orchid Mar 5, 2021, 7:45 PM

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any waterblocks yet for the reference rtx 3070 board?

magic scarab Mar 5, 2021, 7:45 PM

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yep

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pretty sure EK sells some

river orchid Mar 5, 2021, 7:45 PM

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I looked, all I saw were founders editon

magic scarab Mar 5, 2021, 7:47 PM

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they make them for FE but not the reference board?

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thats unusual

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what is your GPU

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PNY I'm guessing?

river orchid Mar 5, 2021, 7:48 PM

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yeah

knotty eagle Mar 5, 2021, 7:48 PM

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FE isn't a reference board

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No one is using the reference board, just hints of the design lol

magic scarab Mar 5, 2021, 7:48 PM

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I thought PNY and a few others were?

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Galax I think as well

river orchid Mar 5, 2021, 7:48 PM

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its reference w/ some stuff added

knotty eagle Mar 5, 2021, 7:49 PM

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Not quite

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Slight differences

river orchid Mar 5, 2021, 7:49 PM

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Whats different? it looks the same to me

knotty eagle Mar 5, 2021, 7:50 PM

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Power port placement and a couple screw holes

river orchid Mar 5, 2021, 7:50 PM

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ah

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well, I guess im not gonna be watercooling

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sad

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maybe I can find somewhere where I can get one custom made

covert apex Mar 5, 2021, 8:30 PM

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Alphacool makes custom blocks I do believe

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Nevermind its for europe only

sleek fable Mar 5, 2021, 9:34 PM

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ok so
if i were to have a tube going into a 90 degree fitting and then putting another tube coming out of that what would i need
so it would be radiator, fitting, tube, 90 degree, tube
because it looks like all the angled fittings have g1/4 threads on them on one side so that means they have to be put into like a block or radiator right?

knotty eagle Mar 5, 2021, 9:36 PM

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What do you need a 90 degree fitting for if you're running soft tubing?

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90 degrees are typically for hard lines in tight spaces

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And yes, the threaded ends are for the blocks, pump, rads, etc

twilit fog Mar 5, 2021, 11:51 PM

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@knotty eagle I thought the same thing but when I was running my loop I ended up needing them for my cpu block

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One at least

gusty flare Mar 6, 2021, 2:15 AM

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the gammaxx 400 ex needs 2 fan headers right?

atomic jetty Mar 6, 2021, 2:25 AM

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usually if a cpu cooler has 2 fans it comes with a splitter

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should only need to plug them into the one cpu fan header

gusty flare Mar 6, 2021, 2:26 AM

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oh

livid birch Mar 6, 2021, 3:59 AM

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I need help with picking a cooler for the 5800x. It is known to have higher temps than the 5600x and 5900x and I do not know what to pick

knotty sparrow Mar 6, 2021, 4:24 AM

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A good 240, 280, or 360 all in one will be plenty.
I'm running my 5800X on a cheaper 240 and it works fine, you'll want bigger if you want to overclock a lot.

livid birch Mar 6, 2021, 4:26 AM

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thanks a lot

gusty flare Mar 6, 2021, 5:41 AM

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ID Cooling XF12025?

knotty sparrow Mar 6, 2021, 5:45 AM

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What about them? They seem like decent ARGB fans

gusty flare Mar 6, 2021, 5:48 AM

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no like, the non rgb ones

knotty sparrow Mar 6, 2021, 5:52 AM

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The white ones? XF-12025-SW?
Their model naming makes no sense, there's like 8 things with the same 12025 number

gusty flare Mar 6, 2021, 5:57 AM

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lol

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idk i just saw a xf12025 that's just black

arctic remnant Mar 6, 2021, 2:08 PM

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I need a RGB CPU cooler for an i7-10700k. What should I choose. Under $100

lucid hawk Mar 6, 2021, 5:01 PM

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knotty eagle They're optimsed for a certain speed

THIS IS WHY CONSTANT SPEED PROPELLERS EXIST

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💃

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oh wait this was from the 27th

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vintage please no

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dont be upset

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😔

knotty eagle Mar 6, 2021, 5:01 PM

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Bruh

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XD

lucid hawk Mar 6, 2021, 5:04 PM

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this is why i came up with the idea for a constant speed computer fan

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where we use constant speed propeller technology

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but for fans

knotty eagle Mar 6, 2021, 5:06 PM

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The RC world has been doing it since 2008. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PoNgThzzERI

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KEEP IT RC by Tower Hobbies

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lucid hawk Mar 6, 2021, 5:13 PM

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knotty eagle The RC world has been doing it since 2008. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PoNg...

airplanes have been doing it since the early 20th century

stone jackal Mar 6, 2021, 7:48 PM

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I need recommendations for the cheapest possible 95w cooler I can put on intel’s 1366 socket. Just need to cool this x5660 while staying literally as cheap as possible. Don’t care about looks, noise isn’t too much of a concern either

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Like... $10 or less...

knotty eagle Mar 6, 2021, 7:57 PM

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95W cooler for less than $10? Unpossible

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Cheap ones are 65W at best lol

granite patrol Mar 6, 2021, 8:08 PM

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look for local deals tbh

brisk rain Mar 6, 2021, 8:23 PM

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Anyone have any experience with dynatron AIO's?

magic scarab Mar 6, 2021, 8:26 PM

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No, but why?

brisk rain Mar 6, 2021, 8:28 PM

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They have a 1u model

stone jackal Mar 6, 2021, 8:35 PM

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well my cooler budget is now $16 if that helps

knotty sparrow Mar 6, 2021, 8:38 PM

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https://www.newegg.com/deepcool-gammaxx-300/p/N82E16835856006?&quicklink=true
$20 and lists 1366 as a compatible socket

arctic remnant Mar 6, 2021, 8:39 PM

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I need a RGB CPU cooler for an i7-10700k. What should I choose? Under $100.

knotty eagle Mar 6, 2021, 8:39 PM

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knotty sparrow https://www.newegg.com/deepcool-gammaxx-300/p/N82E16835856006?&quicklink=true $2...

This is the absolute lowest I'd go for a 95W cpu.

knotty sparrow Mar 6, 2021, 8:40 PM

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Exactly. He wanted cheap before best. Spending a little more would be well worth it.

knotty sparrow Mar 6, 2021, 8:43 PM

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arctic remnant I need a RGB CPU cooler for an i7-10700k. What should I choose? Under $100.

Liquid or air? Air is better in that price range I think but a cheap 240mm would do the trick if you're not doing heavy overclocking.

arctic remnant Mar 6, 2021, 8:44 PM

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Liquid

knotty sparrow Mar 6, 2021, 8:44 PM

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https://www.newegg.com/cooler-master-liquid-cooling-system-masterliquid-ml240l-rgb-v2/p/N82E16835103297?&quicklink=true
This is the new version of the one I use

arctic remnant Mar 6, 2021, 8:45 PM

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I've heard that when installing there is a chance for a leak to occur with coolermaster

knotty sparrow Mar 6, 2021, 8:46 PM

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A chance sure, just don't bend it too far. This is the V2 though, they fixed most of the problems.
I can find other options too

arctic remnant Mar 6, 2021, 8:49 PM

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Is this a good deal I'm looking at my choices here. https://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails?ItemList=Combo.4225013

knotty sparrow Mar 6, 2021, 8:52 PM

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Not bad. I personally avoid Corsair because I don't like their software. The fans on that are also not RGB.

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https://www.newegg.com/msi-liquid-cooling-system/p/N82E16835846008
Interesting one, the pump is in the radiator

knotty eagle Mar 6, 2021, 8:57 PM

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That's because Asetek has the patent on in-block pumps. For anyone wanting to make their own, it's either in the rad or inline on a hose

magic scarab Mar 6, 2021, 9:16 PM

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Or they sue you out of existence for having a similar design

topaz blaze Mar 6, 2021, 10:40 PM

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So when it comes to fans. I’m stuck between a fan that’s 62 cfm max vs 55 cfm max. But the 55 has an air pressure of 2.91 mmH2O

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The 55 cfm has crystal argb design that goes with the trident royals

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My aio is coolermaster so I’m assuming it’ll be best to stay cooler master

mint notch Mar 7, 2021, 1:10 AM

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Hi guys! Wondering if someone can help confirm fitment for me. Here's what I do have:

Corsair Spec 04 Case
G Skill Ripjaws DDR3 2100Mhz 2 x 4Gb & Ripjaws 1600Mhz 2 x 4Gb (will post with pics of part numbers for these. Would like to grab a second set of 2100 to replace the 1600 at some point but this is revival of an old machine for now).
Asus M5A97 (V 1.1 I think, not 2.0 - doesn't have the huge usb plug in)
Asus ROG 470 4Gb

What I want to do, is put a lovely Coolermaster Hyper 212 Evo on there. I'm getting mixed messages as to whether it'll fit though. Sadly atm, I'm leaning towards a no. Newegg website seems to suggest it will though :D!

Any of you guys able to confirm?

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Edit: it won'

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it won't let me post pictures. So ram part # are:

F3-2133C10D-8GXM (2133Mhz, blue color)
F3-12800CL9D-8GBRL (1600Mhz, red color)

knotty sparrow Mar 7, 2021, 1:18 AM

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topaz blaze My aio is coolermaster so I’m assuming it’ll be best to stay cooler master

Fan brand doesn't have to match. It'll be spinning so you won't even see the brand label anyway.
It's good to go for fans that have strong static pressure for a radiator, but avoid the official specs because every brand, and even every model, likes to measure things differently. Look for independent reviews.

topaz blaze Mar 7, 2021, 1:19 AM

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Is static pressure the mmh20?

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@knotty sparrow

knotty sparrow Mar 7, 2021, 1:19 AM

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Yes

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Sort of. That's what the brands like to put at least.

knotty sparrow Mar 7, 2021, 1:23 AM

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mint notch Hi guys! Wondering if someone can help confirm fitment for me. Here's what I do ...

Your case lists max cpu cooler height at 150mm, while hyper 212 evo is 159mm. Too tall. Avoid the 212 anyway, they're not much better than stock fans.

mint notch Mar 7, 2021, 1:24 AM

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Thank you @knotty sparrow . I'm just trying to find a very budget friendly cooler so I can try OC that 4100. The hyper sounded great and came in at 30 - 40 cad

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Only reason the system is in this case is because i didn't do my homework and got the mothership - noctua nhd15. Turns out that thing is the same size as a jumbo jet, so had to swap my system into an open concept core p5 i had this setup in, and i've added washers to the shiny leg things to push the acrylic cover out too xD

knotty sparrow Mar 7, 2021, 1:27 AM

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Scratch the gammax, sorry that one was 155mm

mint notch Mar 7, 2021, 1:27 AM

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ah 🙂

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they do a 200 too but she seems a little rough

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can be had really, really cheap though

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noctua makes some good stuff but then we're back around 100

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40 was a sweet spot of i shouldn't but hehe it's not the end of the world xD

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u9s is nice for sure but maybe a wait on that one job 🙂

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i also feel rather guilty having a core p5 and not putting wc in there. that whole right side where a rad is meant to go will be totally vacant. So far my best idea is to make a little shelf, bolt it to the case and put my model xj220 on there with perhaps some accent lighting

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could potentially get another model in there too

knotty sparrow Mar 7, 2021, 1:30 AM

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Not a bad idea

mint notch Mar 7, 2021, 1:31 AM

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ty

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i'd show a picture of the model but it doesn't seem to allow pics here

knotty sparrow Mar 7, 2021, 1:32 AM

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Hey @knotty eagle sorry to bug you but what would be the best, cheap air cooler under 150mm?

mint notch Mar 7, 2021, 1:32 AM

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i find with so many pc cases, to have something with a little more flair than a box is a little tough. especially keeping with yellow and black

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thanks @knotty sparrow

topaz blaze Mar 7, 2021, 1:32 AM

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I mean I guess it won’t hurt just to try one set of fans since you can always remove and replace them.

knotty sparrow Mar 7, 2021, 1:33 AM

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The server blocks pictures and stuff until you're level 3 to help keep trolls at bay

topaz blaze Mar 7, 2021, 1:33 AM

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I’ll buy all cooler master prismatic

knotty sparrow Mar 7, 2021, 1:33 AM

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Not a bad choice, matching fans are good for aesthetics.

topaz blaze Mar 7, 2021, 1:34 AM

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It’s not just that it will match

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The rgb will match that of the trident royal rgbs

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knotty sparrow Mar 7, 2021, 1:34 AM

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Ooh those are nice ones

mint notch Mar 7, 2021, 1:34 AM

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woah is that gold plated ram? BLING

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apologies, i can't help but like things that are kinda shiny :p

topaz blaze Mar 7, 2021, 1:35 AM

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I dunno exactly. Had decent specs looked good. Bought it

mint notch Mar 7, 2021, 1:35 AM

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i'd show you photos of the trophies i've made for a league i'm in but alas not level 3 yet

knotty sparrow Mar 7, 2021, 1:35 AM

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I think it's just paint but they're pricy like it's gold, and they're worth it for people that don't want to take chances on binning

mint notch Mar 7, 2021, 1:36 AM

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it's the most bling ram i've ever seen

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i have vengence rgb pro in my main rig

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fun story, i ran them at 2133 the whole time until literally a week ago. bios hadn't put them at the 3000. thought i'd purchase 3200 anyway which my 450 maxes out at too

knotty sparrow Mar 7, 2021, 1:37 AM

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I just got my first rgb ram too, the blue is a little off from the rest of my case but tolerable

mint notch Mar 7, 2021, 1:37 AM

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starting to get into tweaking things a bit more

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nice fal 😄

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i found that the mousepad didn't match the rest of the rgb for my corsair stuff actually, found that was kinda weird.

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was either the mousepad or the headset stand, one of em didn't match

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got the mouse, ram, mousepad, headset and headset stand. all corsair. then my spec 04 case too.

knotty sparrow Mar 7, 2021, 1:39 AM

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The rgb mousepad and stuff never appealed to me. I like my case to have rgb because I can see it when I'm gaming, and msi mystic light lets me set the color dynamically based on cpu temp. Not a bad feature, making rgb actually useful.

mint notch Mar 7, 2021, 1:40 AM

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that is useful

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i just ordered one of those razer kb actually that hooks into iracing etc

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heard about it from a friend

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sadly that kb will end up at the desk, because i have a little logitech one for the sim rig because it has a mousepad. used to use that one all the time but now i've got this second machine running they needed their own goodies

knotty sparrow Mar 7, 2021, 1:42 AM

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Ooh fun

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Has anyone else noticed that conversations between passionate computer guys and car/motorcycle guys are very similar? Just different terms used

mint notch Mar 7, 2021, 1:45 AM

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i like cars... 😄