old-cooling

[topaz blaze]

i should have explained that earlier

[deft moth]

assuming Corsair pairs their coolers with their basic $13 fans

you should see an improvement in temps

one thing to consider when buying fans in the future for a radiator is how much static pressure they have

bc while high airflow fans are great

they are less useful when trying to push or pull air thru a radiator

[topaz blaze]

how much improvement

right now its 35

[deft moth]

a couple of degrees

I wouldn't be surprised to see an improvement of 2-3 degrees

[topaz blaze]

oh my god i am never building on an intel platform again

i am actually having chest pains from the rage this cooler installation process is causing me

[burnt goblet]

@topaz blaze hm?

[topaz blaze]

it's a thermaltake ux100

and i'm trying to apply it to an mITX board

[azure crown]

Is the mobo in the case rn?

[burnt goblet]

how is that the fault of the intel platform?

[topaz blaze]

it's the fault of the socket design

[azure crown]

Also, the AM4 mount is definitely more difficult

[burnt goblet]

if anything, blame Thermaltake for doing an arsefirst mounting mechanism

[topaz blaze]

i've worked with AM3 and TR4 and neither of them were this aggravating

[azure crown]

It must be thermaltake then, as naed suggested

LGA 115x is usually a breeze

[burnt goblet]

mind, that cooler is a wonky one

[topaz blaze]

listen, you can tell me if i'm doing something wrong

but combining this cooler

and this motherboard

makes me feel like i'm going to explode

[burnt goblet]

count to 4242

and then try again

letting your temper flare is not going to get the cooler mounted

[topaz blaze]

oh i know

i'm stopping for the night

i just want to vent to people who know what i'm talking about

[burnt goblet]

:)

fair enough :)

[topaz blaze]

after 15 attempts and one yell loud enough that my neighbor asked if i was okay

i am done for the night

[burnt goblet]

perhaps have a look if someone has done a video about it?

could be there is a "trick" to it

[topaz blaze]

well this being a 2019 cooler and a 2011 board probably isn't gonna have a video about the combo

[burnt goblet]

age of both have nothing to do with it

the socket has not really changed in the mounting holes

and my guess is that it is the screws for catching the ring that is playing tricks on you?

well "screws"

[topaz blaze]

it's basically

i have to preattach the cooler to the bracket because of the insanely confined space around the socket, it won't be possible to attach the cooler after the fact

which means I have to do the bracket attachment with an entire cooler in the way

[burnt goblet]

pull the board out of the case

[topaz blaze]

it is out of the case

i'm waiting until a replacement IO shield comes in the mail to put it in the case

[burnt goblet]

there "should" be space to work

because it is going to be close to impossible to do it the way you are talking about

you are trying to work against the spring that holds the cooler to the ring

[topaz blaze]

ok so here's the thing

you see that massive VRM on the right side of the board

it's tall

and there's nowhere near space to get my fingers in there

[burnt goblet]

ring cant be rotated?

[burnt goblet]

because on that cooler, orientation does not matter

[topaz blaze]

if i rotate it 90 degrees the pegs don't line up with the mounting holes, and if i go for 180, the handle part of the attachment-thing clashes with the vrm stack

[burnt goblet]

ah

so, wonky board design + arsefirst mounting mechanism

[topaz blaze]

sorry the barcode scanner on my pc sometimes goes wild

yes exactly

[burnt goblet]

you are going to need more than yourself IF you want to do it the way you suggested

because the "spring" will do its utmost to make it IMpossible without at least 2 more hands [edit:impossible]

[topaz blaze]

this genuinely 6

makes me feel much better

thank you

[burnt goblet]

you are very welcome :)

the easiest solution for you is to get a different cooler

sorry to say.

[topaz blaze]

i originally was using a hyper 212 evo

because i got one for 2.50

but it's too tall for this case

[burnt goblet]

because those caps are going to be the bane of your life for a number of coolers

what case?

[topaz blaze]

thermaltake (noticing a pattern yet?) core v1

[burnt goblet]

ah, 140mm clearance

that it quite easy to fit into

[topaz blaze]

one thing that is nice tho

is the fact that it uses a full ATX PSU

which made getting a good deal on a used power supply easy

[burnt goblet]

so does the Node304 case i am using right now :)

[topaz blaze]

this is a huge contrast to the case my main PC is in

i'm more used to building in things like this

[burnt goblet]

:)

[topaz blaze]

but this pc is for the gf

[burnt goblet]

what cpu is it?

[topaz blaze]

in hers? i5-2500k

[burnt goblet]

stock or oc?

[topaz blaze]

i mean hopefully OC

but that comes once i have it fully built

but this is a really beefy Z77 board

[burnt goblet]

aye, i know

[topaz blaze]

so a good overclock should be possible

it's beefy to a fault

[burnt goblet]

this is an option

https://noctua.at/en/products/cpu-cooler-retail/nh-c14s

with the fan underneath

or the nh-u9s

both have fairly silly amounts of clearance

[rigid lark]

Pwm fan controller that supports up to 12 fans?

[copper patrol]

i suppose you could get two of these

https://www.amazon.com/Corsair-Fan-Controller-Commander-CL-9011110-WW/dp/B0725HP1J2/ref=sr_1_2?crid=2TDKPXRLRCJ65&keywords=corsair+commander+pro&qid=1580618859&sprefix=corsair+commander%2Caps%2C158&sr=8-2

[merry crown]

Why not go for the nh-l9x65 instead?

[burnt goblet]

@merry crown because of the usecase.

also, from the NH-L9x65 product page
"The NH-L9x65 is a highly-compact low-profile quiet cooler designed for use in small form factor cases and HTPC environments. While it provides first rate performance in its class, it is not suitable for overclocking and should be used with care on CPUs with more than 84W TDP (Thermal Design Power). Please consult our CPU compatibility list and TDP guidelines to find out whether the NH-L9x65 is recommended for your CPU."

now, let is take a little stroll into the land of practical things to remember about the 2500k cpu.

https://ark.intel.com/content/www/us/en/ark/products/52210/intel-core-i5-2500k-processor-6m-cache-up-to-3-70-ghz.html

TDP: 95 W

[merry crown]

Ive seen video's of that cooler used on a R5 2600 overclocked and usually hits a max of 70c

But just saying what i saw so

[burnt goblet]

yes, because listening to the recommendation of one of the most respected cooler manufacturers would be the easy way out.

[cold island]

C14S is a great cooler

[burnt goblet]

that it is

[cold island]

but I’d probably go for the d9l+ a second 92mm fan

[topaz blaze]

is the h100i platinum a great cooler?

[burnt goblet]

its a cooler

[cold island]

yeah but it’s pretty pricey

[topaz blaze]

im choosing it over the pro because it has a coolIT coldplate

[cold island]

this is the kinda setup I’d go for (d9l and if u want fan swap/extra fan) @topaz blaze https://youtu.be/R-sMP_wIQx8

[topaz blaze]

thanks, i'll take a look later

[remote canyon]

Why are nocta fans so ugly

[low pumice]

They're so good looking

Noctua looks so nice

[burnt goblet]

@remote canyon (if talking about the brown ones) it was/is because they focused on performance first.

[remote canyon]

Owh

[burnt goblet]

hence why they didnt release the black variant until they could guarantee the same performance

[cinder berry]

im planning on getting an aio at the front of my case and using the top and back as exhaust which means i will only have the bottom front left for cool intake is that going to mess up my cooling
if anyone can anwser i would be very thankful as its hard finding specifics like this my case is the p400 and im gonna get the front panel with holes in it

[burnt goblet]

you asked that question a while ago didnt you @cinder berry ?

[low pumice]

Well, imo the beige noctua fans look pretty nice.

[burnt goblet]

@cinder berry and the answer is that it doesnt matter all that much

[quaint anchor]

should i keep the 3600 stock cooler or should i put on an aio

[burnt goblet]

personally i would not spend the money on an aio

[cold island]

stock cooler is fine

if you want a better one get the mugen 5 rev b

[quaint anchor]

okay

[topaz blaze]

the poor guy with all those problems last night

the secufirm is the BEST mounting system ever

tbh, i will only buy noctua or other coolers that copy that mounting design because of the completely painless process compared to others, CM in particular

the 212s are nightmares

the detents do nothing for retention when you actually put the cooler on

imo the extra money spent is worth it

and it will pay for itself many times over as it should last for more than a few builds presuming you continued using SFF builds

noctua makes all black fans now, btw @remote canyon, they have been doing black coated coolers since october or so

and have been doing black fans for longer

[topaz blaze]

@topaz blaze i invite you to try installing the cooler on this dumb god damn board

it's actually a really excellent board

but the situation of installing a cooler on there makes me wish i could finally die

i am just saying, a bit of homework goes a long way

a few extra bucks on a better design is probably worth it next time

i'd return it and get a different cooler if it's really giving you that many problems

regardless of where the mobo guys put the VRMs, a well designed mounting system especially one for a mitx/low profile cooler would be designed with the constraints in mind

like the noctua mount can be rotated 90*

sounds like more of an issue with the cooler/mounting than the board itself cuz i had one of these boards (maybe not that exact model, but one from asus with the vrms in the same place as both the one i linked here and your mITX board) and had to rotate my mount 90* to fit

or i rotated the cooler

one way or the other, the issue you encountered can be rectified with a different, more well thought out cooler

[gentle shadow]

Hey guys, so im worried that my pc is running too hot. My cpu is a ryzen 5 3600 with stock cooler in a Nzxt h500

Thats the idle temps

Im i just panicking or should i invest in a cpu cooler

Im thinking about getting a Corsair H115i RGB Plat. 280mm

[acoustic scarab]

52 idle ain't terrible

see what it does under load though

[urban sluice]

xD

[burnt goblet]

here is a bit of a blast from the past

https://www.kitguru.net/components/leo-waldock/zalman-cnps20x-and-cnps17x-noctua-look-out/

@topaz blaze yes, good mounting systems are worth a LOT

[modern crater]

Any recommendations for budget argb fans?

[sturdy warren]

Darkflash aura

I’ll send a link in a minute

[river gorge]

yeah darkflash

[sturdy warren]

I don’t have a link but I have a picture

It doesn’t let me send pics in here

[river gorge]

try now @sturdy warren

[sturdy warren]

Thanks

[river gorge]

I've bought that set twice now

they are quiet

only downside.. 2 speeds for fans

so not idea for radiators

[sturdy warren]

My friend has the other version of them

[river gorge]

but to push/pull air out the case. they are great

Inwin SIRIUS LOOP

[sturdy warren]

These ones

[river gorge]

would be better honestly

[sturdy warren]

Yeah

I haven’t looked into inwin a lot

[river gorge]

https://www.newegg.com/p/1YF-0022-00013?Description=inwin loop&cm_re=inwin_loop-_-9SIAFVFAZD6176-_-Product&quicklink=true

I'm using these now., and they are amazing.

[sturdy warren]

Nice

I just got some LL120s for my second build to replace my laptop. It’s literally all about looks right now because I’m going to use it for LAN parties once I get a dedicated GPU in it

I also am getting some RGB strips

[low pumice]

Gawd damn the cnps20x looks good

Perf wise

[burnt goblet]

its a return to their old alu/copper pattern, which, if it is anything like the old cnps, looks fantastic

[low pumice]

Not on Amazon or wegg yet tho

[burnt goblet]

should be there shortly.

ocuk has them in stock at the moment

gibbo and crew dont normally have long(if any) exclusive deals

what is "interesting" about the cnps20x is that the way it has beat the d15 is by using 300 grams more metal

1.3kg vs 990grams

which really is one heck of a testimony to the noctua engineers

[low pumice]

Oh wow

But Noctua should be able to respond with a d16

And maybe completely wreak everything

[burnt goblet]

there are limits to how much heat you can move at a given noise level with a given amount of material in use

[low pumice]

More metal time for Noctua?

[burnt goblet]

potentially.

they are the ones that know exactly what the limits of their current implementations are.

[low pumice]

Yea, I believe in Noctua tho

Feeling like apple tbh

[topaz blaze]

@topaz blaze it's not just the location of the VRM but the sheer size of it

but it doesn't matter because i'm returning this garbage and getting the noctua low profile one suggested

[low pumice]

Like d14 was 2009, d15 2014, d16 maybe this year?

[topaz blaze]

actually i think the noctua ones might be outside my price range

:/

ok so i ended up (due to pricing and mounting mechanism) just bought a noctua nh-l9x65

[burnt goblet]

@topaz blaze just dont expect the biggest OC on that 2500k

[topaz blaze]

i'm hoping for a moderate one

but the big thing is like

as long as it beats her existing proc

which is a constantly heat throttled i5-5257U

which, you know

and of course, graphics

[burnt goblet]

just as long as you dont expect magic from a cooler that is not rated for what you are potentially going to do to it

[topaz blaze]

i'm not trying to push it

and if there's problems

don't tell mike i bought through amazon instead of newegg for the sake of a no questions return

[burnt goblet]

hey, i have no direct affiliation, so i dont care about that

[gentle shadow]

@acoustic scarab thats the temp when im playing Overwatch and fortnite and cod about the same

• or - 5

[fiery edge]

Anyone know if the be quiet dark rock slim is a good cpu cooler?

[delicate cove]

i had one and loved it for stock speeds for my 8600k and now its on a 4690k and it does well

but that was the pure rock slim so the dark rock will def be better

[acoustic scarab]

@gentle shadow if you are staying under 70 while gaming then you are in very good shape

[gentle shadow]

@acoustic scarab thanks

H115 platinum or pro? I heard the plat comes with a new pump

[tropic vortex]

whats the difference between sleeve and hydraulic bearings? and which is better o.o

[cedar turtle]

@tropic vortex https://www.gamersnexus.net/guides/779-computer-case-fan-bearing-differences

[azure crown]

rip lmao

[lofty solar]

looking for a thin case like fan. about 1/2 inch thick. up to a 120mm size fan

[supple cobalt]

Noctua I believe have thin fans

non standard thickness fans

[cold island]

a12x25/a12x15 for 25 and 15mm thick

[tropic vortex]

Help what's the difference and what should I get?

[regal plaza]

For what

[tropic vortex]

I have a ryzen 7 3800x

[regal plaza]

Whats ur build rn

[tropic vortex]

Dunno what's the diff a

[regal plaza]

The socket

Cheaper one is just threadripper

[tropic vortex]

Dunno what that is lol

[regal plaza]

A cpu

Tr4

Is a socket

[tropic vortex]

So do I get that one if I have a ryzen 3800x

[regal plaza]

No

It wont fit

[pliant basin]

you probably want the one for 119 then

[tropic vortex]

Thanks

[regal plaza]

Whats your whole build looking like @tropic vortex

You got a link?

[tropic vortex]

I got most of the parts . Sec

https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/list/mGyDk6

I'm buying my gpu last I gave a 1060 atm lol zzz

Have*

[regal plaza]

What have you not gotten yet

[tropic vortex]

Oops I thought I marked the stuff as purchase

Ec

Sec

https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/list/Xct6p8

[regal plaza]

Cmon dude

That psu is so overpriced

Why does it say 219?

I know its cad btw

https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/list/JFnQcq

[tropic vortex]

It's from my old computer lol

[regal plaza]

I wouldve done this

[tropic vortex]

I already had it

The case too already had it

And hdd

[regal plaza]

Mhm yeah understand that

[tropic vortex]

My brother was like my psu might not be nuff lol

Should be nuff

474w on partpicker

[regal plaza]

Well, for your cooler

[tropic vortex]

My brother telling me to use the stock wraith

[regal plaza]

I would go for a D15 from noctua

If aggressively overclocking

If not, just the stock yeah

The ryzen 7 stock is really quite good

[tropic vortex]

Yah I guess I'll hold off on a aftermarket one then lol

[regal plaza]

Get different monitors

And do you need 2?

[tropic vortex]

Yah I want dual

I'm budget

But still want 1440p

[regal plaza]

Is this all for gaming?

[tropic vortex]

And video editing as profession

[regal plaza]

Ok

Oh yeah wedding videos

I remember

Personally, I would take away a monitor and get a 2080 super

Then buy the other monitor later

@tropic vortex?

[burnt goblet]

the super is not going to add any convenience on the workside of things

[tropic vortex]

But will for gaming

And streaming

Hm. I could monitors and gpu is kinda last for me only cuz I got a 1060 for now to keep by hunger at bay and my 1080p MX279h

[regal plaza]

Well currently the super and normal are very similar

Dont know about the canadian market tho

[topaz blaze]

@topaz blaze @cold island @burnt goblet thank you

Noctua cooler was just installed so easily

[burnt goblet]

@topaz blaze happy to hear :)

now you know first hand why people (especially people that build a LOT of systems) love noctua coolers

[thorn heron]

Any deals on water coolers

[fast phoenix]

@thorn heron what size do you need?

[thorn heron]

Any would work actually

120 240 or 360

Any of those

Not a 280

[fast phoenix]

https://www.ekfluidgaming.com/kits These are 40% off

[river gorge]

40%?!?!

son of a .

[fast phoenix]

https://www.evga.com/products/product.aspx?pn=400-HY-CL36-V1

$20 MIR and S1UQP0HAKH2GPDI <- Code for extra 10% off

^ $99.99

[river gorge]

get out of here with your silly code >:|

[fast phoenix]

LOL

That's not even mine

[river gorge]

rofl

[fast phoenix]

Box are those Fluidgaming kits decent?

[river gorge]

I like it

works great

[fast phoenix]

$143 for CPU and GPU cooling sounds like a steal

[river gorge]

lots of people complain

ItS ChEaP aNd AlUmINuM

well duh.

[fast phoenix]

https://www.walmart.com/ip/MasterLiquid-Lite-ML240L-RGB-MLW-D24M-A20PC-R1/877616472

$69

[river gorge]

but it works, if you want to get into custom cooling, ek fluid gaming is where its at

[fast phoenix]

https://www.newegg.com/enermax-liqfusion-360-liquid-cooling-system/p/N82E16835214097

$110

Man

Now I'm really thinking about getting the fluidgaming one

It's $240 on Newegg

I just read that the GPU block is mostly compatible with reference cards

[clever lichen]

Any recommended rgb case fans? Either 120 or 140 don't matter

[thorn heron]

Any deals on the Corsair h60 with led

[warm comet]

The only reason to hate on aluminum in a loop is that you have to make sure that you don't throw any copper parts in the mix.

If I had the money I would totally buy the $90 ek kit just to play around with.

[wintry oyster]

Has any ever tried the corsair hydro x custom water cooling? Looks pretty good to the eye

[knotty eagle]

most AIO's are copper and aluminum......provided you use the proper additive it's a moot point.

[autumn depot]

I installed 4 new fans to my PC and non of them are spinning. I used a fan splitter for all the 4 fans. Do I need to do something in bios for them to work

[knotty eagle]

Where did you plug them in? What header?

[autumn depot]

My system 2 fan pin

[cold island]

its 2 pins?

[autumn depot]

It’s 4 pins

It’s a fan splitter

[knotty eagle]

System 2 header?

[autumn depot]

That has 4 fans

On the splitter

[knotty eagle]

Might need to set a fan curve in the BIOS yeah or possibly in software for your motherboard

[autumn depot]

Can you send me a link on how to do that

[knotty eagle]

Need to know what motherboard.........

[autumn depot]

msi-B450 pro-vdh

[knotty eagle]

https://download.msi.com/archive/mnu_exe/M7A38v4.1.zip

[autumn depot]

Thank you very much

[knotty eagle]

YW

Switching fan mode and adjusting fan speed
You can switch between PWM mode and DC mode and adjust fan speed in BIOS >
HARDWARE MONITOR.

[autumn depot]

ok

[warm comet]

ya, with the proper fluid and timely fluid changes mixed metals isn't the end of the world. But still its ideal to not mix. I have an old corsair AIO that I pulled apart and the copper on it still looks great, but I dont know what the aluminum rad looks like inside. usually its the aluminum that gets eat up in mixed metal.

[knotty eagle]

JayZ just cut open a 4 year old Corsair aluminum rad

It was spotless inside

[warm comet]

I should find a picture of my old gpu block after many years of use. its full of holes

[knotty eagle]

H100 I think?

[warm comet]

mine was an h105. the copper looked perfect. I was actually really amazed. it had a little bit of a white solid one particular fin. makes me think maybe some foreign body was in the loop and caused some kind of reaction to form it.

[knotty eagle]

Possibly the anti-corrosives just flat wore out. They are only good for a certain amount of time

[knotty eagle]

That almost makes me wonder if it's not cavitation

From the water moving through the block for years

[warm comet]

aluminum top copper bottom. you can see the holes in the aluminum

[knotty eagle]

That's a real thing in car engines, causes pitting and erosion. Looks like corrosion but it's not

[warm comet]

it also had some build up on it, but I didn get a picture of that before i cleaned it.

[knotty eagle]

Ah, probably the additive going away

[warm comet]

This one was from around 2003 or 04. I ran it on a few different systems over about 5 years.

[knotty eagle]

That's a typical life expectancy for an AIO anyway, IMO. Not bad.

[warm comet]

this was the gpu block from a custom loop.

[knotty eagle]

Oh, how long was it installed? Yo umentioned H105 above.

[warm comet]

I still have a corsair H50 from 2009 that works

Its cooling a pentium right now, but if I can find the am4 bracket for it in my office I am going to put it on my 3000g.

[knotty eagle]

That'd keep it nice and cool

[warm comet]

ya, it actually gets pretty toasty. I have been using it for overclocking.

[knotty eagle]

Kinda not surprised with an integrated GPU

[warm comet]

I had the wraith prism on it for a few days and it would get up to around 80C but that was with 1.5-1.55v

now i have a wraith spire on it. but I have just been playing with ram overclock

[knotty eagle]

1.5 volts? WHEW!

[warm comet]

ya, it was $50 so I am not too worried about killing it

I dont want to kill my 2700x or 2600 so I dont really push either of them

[knotty eagle]

Kinda surprised the Prism didn't do better

Need to lap the HS maybe?

[warm comet]

but this thing, I am hoping I will be able to get 4.4ghz one night when its cold

nah, the prism is good. it keeps my 2600 under 60C at 4ghz. but I had the core on this at 1.55v, soc was at 1.4, the igpu was at 1.4v

was trying to get some max speed runs in 3dmark, but it wasnt stable. couldnt get all of the overclocks to work together. It was mostly the ram. Its not completely stable at 3933. after that attempt I had to put my 2600 system back together so the prism went back in that pc.

I don't plan on trying to use the spire with those kind of voltages.

[knotty eagle]

yeah no lol. Watercooling might help until it gets heat soaked

[warm comet]

This was the highest ram overclock I managed to get stable. Pretty decent considering that these things are built on zen+ and not zen 2. 3933 will run, but it eventually blue screens after about 20 minutes.

[warm comet]

I don't think I ever posted this here. 3 stock coolers. left is wraith spire from my 2600, middle is the cooler that came with my 3000g, right is the stock intel cooler for a kaby lake pentium

[fast thicket]

How hard do y’all think custom water cooling is

I want to go all out and splurge for the best looking best performing cooling

I’ve only ever done air cooling

No water cooling AIO or anything

Do y’all think it would be hard for me to build a water loop from no previous water cooling experience

[acoustic scarab]

yes

[burnt goblet]

@warm comet the stock low profile intel one

or at least it looks like the lowprofile one

[azure crown]

@fast thicket depends on if you do soft or hard

And the distance of your tubes

The hard part is buying everything and making sure you get everything you need and that it works and its enough

Under 100% load, my dual 130w TDP CPUs maxed out at like 48C

So it's totally worth it

[warm comet]

@burnt goblet yes, its low profile. honestly the thickness of all 3 heatsinks are very similar.

[burnt goblet]

but, density is fairly different iirc

and the low profile intel one is light as all heck

[warm comet]

I have a scale I could weigh them with, but just holding them in my hand I would say the stock intel cooler is a good 20% lighter than the athlon cooler.

[burnt goblet]

aye

shame intel went away from including a copper core in their lowprofile ones

[regal plaza]

Intel is so cringe for stock cooling

[burnt goblet]

(for that generation at least)

[polar ravine]

on my stock ryzen 9 cooler i accadentally brushed a bit of the thermal paste on the plastic casing, can i still use it or do i need to re-apply

[warm comet]

the spire is installed, but its considerably heavier than the other two. much more fin density with the amd coolers. Both amd coolers are pretty much the same fins, but the athlon one has a smaller slug in the middle and has been cut to a square instead of a circle.

[burnt goblet]

depending on your definition of "a bit" it wont matter @polar ravine

[regal plaza]

Hows the 3600 stock cooler btw

[warm comet]

now I am curious how much they weigh. I needed to go in that room for something anyway.

[polar ravine]

gotcha

[urban sluice]

3600 stock

[polar ravine]

like literally none at all, just enough to notice

[urban sluice]

55 idle on mine xD i dont know maybe need to resit

[regal plaza]

Yeah

That doesnt souns eight

[urban sluice]

when i google it

[burnt goblet]

@polar ravine dont worry about it :)

[urban sluice]

the other one is for 2400g

i sold it to some kid i know

i sold it for 100$ 2400g + stock cooler + receipt.. it has 3 years warranty.. only used 7 months

XD i really need to get that 3600

[polar ravine]

@burnt goblet thanks

[regal plaza]

@urban sluice what r ur specs

I thought u had a 3900x

[urban sluice]

3600 + 5700

nope

i dont render nor doing some disney stuff

haha

[regal plaza]

Oh lol same

Have you seen the vid where you can unlock the 5700?

It gives you performance similar to 5700xt

[urban sluice]

yeah

[regal plaza]

Cool

[urban sluice]

5700 can flash to xt

can beat stock xt

[regal plaza]

If u do it be careful tho

It could burn the thing

[urban sluice]

yeah i dont do any exp on my card xD

[burnt goblet]

@polar ravine you are very welcome, and congrats on the new build :)

[polar ravine]

yeah man, thank you

ram and power supply is coming in monday i hope

that’ll be all i need

[warm comet]

I pulled them apart and weighed just the aluminum. both parts weight exactly 95 grams

[regal plaza]

Nice

[burnt goblet]

@polar ravine do yourself a favour and test boot it outside the case :)

@warm comet hm, cheers for the trivia info :)

[polar ravine]

@burnt goblet gotcha, thanks for the advice

[burnt goblet]

:)

you are very welcome :)

[fast thicket]

@azure crown aight thx. Yea I’m doing soft tubing

[polar ravine]

there is a little black fleck on my thermal pad on my stock ryzen 9 9300x cooler and i have no idea how to get it off without ruining the thermal pad

anyone have any clue?

[burnt goblet]

needle

[idle tiger]

Lick it
The wraith prism is fine as cooler, but for a $500 chip like a 3900x many would suggest investing in a $5 tube of MX-4 along with a $80 air cooler like a Noctua D15, BeQuiet dark rock pro 4, $50 Scythe ninja or mugen 5.

[cedar turtle]

https://www.https://www.arctic.ac/us_en/freezer-34-esports.html this is the one i have its 40

[thorn heron]

Any deals on a Corsair liquid cooler

[left matrix]

So can anyone lend me a little bit of help im trying to do a custom loop for a pc build in a few months but I was wondering if anyone knew of any reservoir's, Cpu, 2070s cooler, and a pump

im not too knowledgeable of it this would be my first ever time building and id like to do a nice loop but i have no idea where to start or let alone how to find it all

[regal plaza]

@left matrix idk much either, but EK waterblocks has a lot of stuff

So check out their website

[left matrix]

okay thank you

[magic sparrow]

@left matrix hardline or soft tubing?

wish to save money when possible?

Cuz I mean Bykski has custom RGB loop kits (CPU/GPU block, 360mm rad, small reservoir, pump, soft tubing) for $250 or so

[cold island]

ekwb has a pretty decent configurator to see what kinda parts you need, i'd check other companies for cheaper parts cause theirs are pretty pricey for what they offer

[left matrix]

Yea i found and did a custom set up with soft tubing because i dont own a heat gun, but the whole thing is tubing, res and pump combo, with coolant and rad and fans for 370 in total on Ekwb but i will get out Bykski thank you @magic sparrow and @cold island

[magic sparrow]

@left matrix Is that the ekwb fluid gaming stuff? Apparently there are some issues with the blocks not coming tight enough. That I cant really confirm much because basically no info on that

[left matrix]

Uh I think so and damn I it might I’ll check out bykski before I buy tho I still got time I gotta save about $1500-1900 depending on if I do a nvlink so just trying to get a idea of budgets on stuff

[true siren]

I’m new to this pc thing and had one of my friends build my current setup I wanna upgrade my cpu cooler to liquid cooled. How hard would it be to do myself?

[burnt goblet]

in theory, not hard.

but why?

[sturdy warren]

Unless its custom. Which it sounds like it isn’t.

[burnt goblet]

liquid cooling is not magically going to make your system better/faster

[true siren]

I have the wraith cooler that came with my ryzen 7 2700x and it just gets so loud

[burnt goblet]

get a bigger air cooler

it will be cheaper

and the work for installing it will be less

[true siren]

Any you recommend?

I bought a cooler master cooler but we couldn’t figure out how to install it properly

[raven bane]

Theres tutorials for it

Its easy

[burnt goblet]

@raven bane some of the mounting systems used by fx cooler master are fairly ... silly ...

[sturdy warren]

be quiet! Dark Rock 4, BK021, 200W TDP, CPU Cooler https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07BYP9S95/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_tai_plyqEbY23W7K7

[raven bane]

Btw do you recommend water cooling for r7 3700x?

@burnt goblet yes

[sturdy warren]

This one I like @true siren but I think their are some better for the price.

[true siren]

Thanks! @sturdy warren

[burnt goblet]

the Dark Rock 4 is fine

its a bit cheaper vs the black version of the Noctua NH-u12s (which is 70usd)

ofc there is the "tastefully retro coloured" variant of the NH-u12s which is 60

http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/51F4-J58itL.jpg

that

[true siren]

I’ll have to check those out after work. Thanks so much

[burnt goblet]

https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/41EtNCKEoDL.jpg

and that is the black (70usd one)

they perform the same

[sturdy warren]

You’re welcome @true siren

[burnt goblet]

@true siren you are very welcome :)

[raven bane]

#cpus-mobo-and-memory help pls

[burnt goblet]

@raven bane and to answer you, i personally dont see a point in it.

the amount of headroom for OC on 3700x and the others in the same family, is very small

let the built-in systems do what they want and focus on using your system instead of what the benchmark scores say

[raven bane]

ok thanks

[magic sparrow]

Macho Rev C for $44 that has a black cover on the top would probs be a better option

[heavy lake]

so im mostly going for the astetic on water cooling and doing a hard loop, have expericance on bending and moulding tubing. Is there a prefrence in the 2 main companies ive seen around for parts? with EKWB and Bitspower?

[regal plaza]

Yeah pretty much @heavy lake

[heavy lake]

Im just debating what GPU i want to do

[regal plaza]

Depends on budget

[heavy lake]

its going to be high end

most likely a 2080ti

[regal plaza]

Ok

But for the entire thing

Whats the budget

[heavy lake]

just trying to figure out if i wanna rog strix gaming x or arourus

kinda ruled out the arorus since water block takes away everything astetic from it

but idk why the powercolor liquid devil looks really sexy to me

can Ek and Bitspower parts work together?

im noticing parts from both areas i like wonder if they are compatable with eachother

like water block and back plate from EK but the distro block, lian li flat res and pump and cpu block from bitspower.

[regal plaza]

Yes

The liquid devil looks good,but is just a 5700 XT

[heavy lake]

true

[regal plaza]

Which is much worse than a 2080yi

Still good, but worse

[heavy lake]

and at $600 its worth just going invidia at that point

[regal plaza]

Yes

But again, what the budget for the whole system

[heavy lake]

im familiar with the stats and benchmarks on cards

ill put a part picker list in just a sec

[regal plaza]

Mk

[heavy lake]

This is the basis of what ive selected so far https://pcpartpicker.com/list/wszgFG

I have about 12 LL120s on hand so RGB is a thing, also need to figure out the radiators if i wanna go thick or slims

[regal plaza]

Lemme change it a bit gimme a sec

[heavy lake]

I already have the ram and SSD, just realised there is 2 of same NVMEs that should be only 1

[regal plaza]

You have already bought them?

[heavy lake]

Ive had them from past builds that i ended up doing something diffrent

[regal plaza]

Yeah uh

That dominator platinum is a ripoff

Ill add in what I would get ok

But whats max budget

[heavy lake]

I got 32GB of the plat RGB for $60 no issues

[regal plaza]

Oh for 60

[heavy lake]

4x 8GB sticks

[regal plaza]

At 220 its a ripoff

Ok, but what is the max budget

[heavy lake]

i agree

[regal plaza]

I need to know

[heavy lake]

with that list if i bought the rog strix 2080ti OC it leaves about 700 for the loop

[regal plaza]

Geez, what is the max budget

I need a number

[heavy lake]

meh, no real cap

just trying to keep under 4k with same brand parts overall i guess

[regal plaza]

Mk

[heavy lake]

idk i like matching boards to gpus and stuff like that

kinda why i went corsair with basically everything

PSU ram and fans lol

easier to set up RGB sync i guess

even though 9/10 times im running static colors

lol

I wonder if asus makes a white strix 2080ti OC

[regal plaza]

They do I think

[heavy lake]

but then id have to find a board, meh who knows

[regal plaza]

Or are gonna

Lucky for you, asus makes a white x570

[heavy lake]

👀

[regal plaza]

Are you going for a white aesthetic?

[heavy lake]

id like to

makes the RGB pop more

[regal plaza]

Mk

[heavy lake]

I know the white lian li dynamic looks good

[regal plaza]

Gimme a sec then

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/WsyTp8

Not the final list

Just for me to edit

[heavy lake]

id like to put a 100w in it, once the end of year hits and the 300 series ividia cards hit and 200 cards drop, im heavily thinking about SLI

[regal plaza]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/3bNFb8

I put the pricefor the 2080ti in manually

Idk how much it will cost

So you might have ti wait

[heavy lake]

imma look around for it real quick

[regal plaza]

Its not out

[heavy lake]

actually

just thinking about it

the color on the GPU dosent matter

its getting water blocked

lol

just do the nickel backplate lol

[regal plaza]

Oh yeah

Plus its limited edition and sold out

[heavy lake]

its on newegg actually

https://www.newegg.com/asus-rtx-2080-ti-rog-strix-rtx2080ti-o11g-gaming/p/N82E16814126302?Description=asus rog strix 2080ti&cm_re=asus_rog_strix_2080ti-_-14-126-302-_-Product

[regal plaza]

Facts

If you abandon the loop you could have dual 2080tis right away

Jk

[heavy lake]

nah, ive been wanting to do a hard loop for about 5-6 years now

[regal plaza]

Mk

[heavy lake]

I wonder head to head what board is better overall from Asus, the X570 Pro ot the E gaming

[heavy lake]

on the lian li dynamic EK makes the replacable distro block for the front tempered glass can i run that in tandem with the Flat resevuor that bitspower makes that goes along the front inside the case?

https://shop.bitspower.com/index.php?route=product/product&product_id=7163

https://www.ekwb.com/shop/ek-classic-dp-front-pc-o11d-d-rgb-spc-pwm-5801

can these be ran together in the same case

[regal plaza]

@heavy lake why would you need 2?

[supple jay]

question for anyone using a dark rock pro 4, which way do you orient the fans? the logical way to me is to have them work with the exhaust and push out the back, but just curious of anyone has them aimed towards the front.

[cold island]

If you want to watercool any card get the FE/reference

much better block support and cheaper blocks

[sturdy timber]

So then what suggestions do you have for me with a cooler @burnt goblet

[burnt goblet]

the stock one

because this is an updated build list

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/WFtytp

i changed a fair amount of things

it is a bit cheaper, and faster on all fronts

(aside from the mechanical harddrive, which is the same as you had)

[sturdy timber]

Any white mother boards?

[burnt goblet]

what is most important to you

[sturdy timber]

Kind of want a white theme with mine

That's it

[burnt goblet]

performance or how it looks?

[sturdy timber]

Both. But just wondering if there was a good white mobo

[burnt goblet]

not in that range iirc

[sturdy timber]

Ok

And if i seem that I'm being annoying I'm sorry 😅. I just wanted a good PC and really do appreciate all the feed back.

[burnt goblet]

you are not being annoying.

i was just looking for that one white board i know about

it is currently priced at close to 200 usd

[sturdy timber]

😳

What about the og one I had?

[burnt goblet]

because sadly it has not been in regular circulation since january last year

[sturdy timber]

And I can always add a cooler and other components later on.

[burnt goblet]

the stock cooler is fine

re: the x470 board you started with, you can use that if you want

[sturdy timber]

Ok

I will keep that in mind

[burnt goblet]

but i would fairly strongly recommend that you change the other parts

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/6F8qPn

that is how the list looks with the x470

and with that posted, i will have to run. Post any questions either here or in #building-and-recc-chat

[sturdy timber]

Ok thank you!

[burnt goblet]

np

[ionic talon]

What is a great company to order for custom water cooling parts?

[azure crown]

EKWB is top notch

But pricy

Alphacool has some really neat parts as well

[magic sparrow]

EKWB is like the Apple of watercooling
Alphacool has decent parts
If looking more on the cheap side, go Bykski or Barrow

[azure crown]

XSPC also has a few parts, not a huge selection tho

But, XSPC and Alphacool are the only companies to make crossflow rads

Which are really nice

[quasi copper]

What would Corsair hydro x be for custom loop

[cold island]

apple but with a higher price and rgb

[torn flame]

do you think a single fan radiator version of the Kraken Z series will come out

[cold island]

probably not the Z line since its the super high end and 120mm/140mm dont cool super well, but maybe the new X lineup

[torn flame]

my case cant fit the 280mm radiator but the front fan area probably can, should I just swap all my fans to make it work? I only have 1 output fan so now i will only have 1 input and then 4 out

[topaz blaze]

okay im new to pc's but why does the NZXT water cooling stuff have no visible water

is it in them wire like tubes

[acoustic scarab]

some have clear tubes others don't

most all in one water coolers don't have clear tubes in fact

[covert hull]

@topaz blaze yeah it comes with the water already in the tubes, you just have to attach it to your case and cpu

[tender flicker]

I have a 2700x. Any suggestions for a AIO water cooling system?

[supple jay]

you guys see that Corsair cpu air cooler? the A500. it looks pretty good, maybe rival DRP4 and noctua dh15

[burnt goblet]

@tender flicker yes, its a simple one, dont waste money on it. It is a very expensive light strip

@supple jay look at zalman instead, they have a cooler that seems to beat the dh15

[magic sparrow]

wouldnt be surprised if that Corsair cooler would be $90+. At which point is pretty eh because of all the other companies that exist. Scythe, Thermalright, Zalman (Im taking Naed's word on this as I havent heard of them)

[burnt goblet]

https://www.kitguru.net/components/leo-waldock/zalman-cnps20x-and-cnps17x-noctua-look-out/ <- here is a bit of reading @magic sparrow, if you want to ofc

[low pumice]

Well depends on where they're at

CNPS is only UK last I checked

[burnt goblet]

it is basically a 2 coloured nh15 that is 300 grams heavier

[low pumice]

it also has a slight bit of rgb

[burnt goblet]

its a bit of a weird design, but then again, that is zalman in a nutshell

(look up the flower heatsinks from them)

[low pumice]

But anyways

[burnt goblet]

https://www.ixbt.com/cpu/socketa-coolers-massive-shootout/cnps3000-series-hs-1.jpg

[low pumice]

I was confused why the d15s that were sent were different

[burnt goblet]

that is the flower models

[low pumice]

in the video

[burnt goblet]

listen to what he says

production differences and/or changes in the fan variables

etc etc

there are plenty of places you could look at and point at, as likely causes

[low pumice]

but 3c was what was interesting to me

it closed the margins a good bit, tho the zalman still beats d15

[burnt goblet]

aye

and again, samplesize of 2 is not exactly huge :)

[low pumice]

I'd love to see it available in the US still tho

[burnt goblet]

what i find fascinating is how well the nh-d15 holds up

it will come

[low pumice]

(and the mass reviewing of the cooler)

Yea Noctua does their work well, just hope they don't become another apple that stops their innovation

[burnt goblet]

well, the big one is available in a local shop here in town, and i am not in the UK

[low pumice]

Oh really?

It isn't on amazon or newegg as of now

[burnt goblet]

it is however more expensive vs the d15

[low pumice]

really? I thought on the review the MSRP was like 60$

[burnt goblet]

suggested retail price

this looks like the importers retail store

keep in mind, we have some fairly nasty taxes etc here

[low pumice]

ah I see

[burnt goblet]

the nh-d15 is 91,5 usd

the cnps20x is 112 usd

keep in mind, that is AFTER our taxes etc have been applied

you will have little to any luck translating the local cost here back into actual US retail price

what IS very interesting is the fairly massive difference in cost no matter the currency thou [edit:currency]

[low pumice]

we'll have to see how it goes

[burnt goblet]

aye

going to be interesting to see when more sites get their grubby little mitts on both models

[low pumice]

surprisingly, theres one listing on ebay for a zalman cooler when I look up cnps20x, but its an international listing for a different cooler

[burnt goblet]

hehe

[burnt goblet]

well, that IS the cooler atleast

IF you go by the picture there

[maiden steppe]

saw this on a new corsair cooler on amazon

[burnt goblet]

second guy cannot read

read exactly what the first person says

"it does pretty well lol, but if you absolutely have to have RGB fans i believe you can change out the included ones ..........."

well, let me rephrase that

the person asking the question is either trolling or on serious need of some education

the first person answering it does so with a bit of humour and a valid observation.

the second person answering could, imo, provide more context

and you @maiden steppe should not crop things like that :P

[maiden steppe]

@burnt goblet

here ye go

was probably a joke

lol

but besides that

any of yall got a good fclga1151 rgb cpu fan for me?

[burnt goblet]

none of that actually tells anyone what you are looking for, in a way where they can actually effectively help you

[maiden steppe]

ummm let me rephrase that

actually nvm I found one

[tame hemlock]

What are some good, cheap case fans I can get? I want to put more lights into my build cause its kinda bland right now, but I don't have enough experience with this stuff yet. It doesn't matter if its full RGB or just single color and I would need preferably 4, but 3 would do. I was hoping maybe no more than $60. Any recommendations?

[river gorge]

@tame hemlock https://www.newegg.com/p/1YF-0022-00013?Description=inwin 120mm&cm_re=inwin_120mm-_-9SIAFVFAZD6176-_-Product

[tame hemlock]

awesome, thanks!

[river gorge]

I use them, they are really nice.

pretty quiet too on radiators at 100%

75% is pretty much silent

that's almost 1,500 rpm

1,800 at full

[tame hemlock]

yea noise isnt much of a concern for me, as long as they arent deafening and actually move air, i dont care that much

[river gorge]

oh yeah you'll like em.

[tame hemlock]

cool, thanks

[topaz blaze]

anyone have an opinion of the Thermaltake Riing Plus RGB? Thinking of buying a three pack (please mention me)

[hidden mural]

@topaz blaze honestly they look like great fans but they may not be able to be controlled by RGB software, i am not sure about that

and that might be a concern because you couldn't really control them then without some kind of controller hardware

[topaz blaze]

Ok thanks

You can control them with the thermal take software

And Razer chroma

[eternal socket]

does anyone know how to fix loud fans even during idle? I built a new PC and i have 6 fans inside and all of them are running, including the 2 fans on my RTX 2060. I installed all the drivers and updated... do I need to tweak the BIOS?

Plz mention me i need help

not sure if i’m over exaggerating

[burnt goblet]

you would need to have a look at where/how your fans are connected

because based on that picture, and taking into account what you said above, you are missing 1 fan

3 in the picture, 2 on the GPU

[eternal socket]

but all the fans are running?

[burnt goblet]

that is 9 fans

so, they are going into some kind of fan-hub somewhere

because based on the picture above, you are only connecting to 3 "control" points on the mainboard

[eternal socket]

so i need to connect the other 3 to the main board as well?

[burnt goblet]

no no

do you have the build list for that machine?

[eternal socket]

gimme a sec

[burnt goblet]

thats enough

[eternal socket]

that's the complete list

[burnt goblet]

looks like you have a cable splitter.

the first picture you posted. bottom right of that, there is a Q-fan button

in there you should have the tools for handling it

[eternal socket]

sorry it's just that i built my first PC idk what to do

[burnt goblet]

the CHA1/2/3 fans are the ones you need to mess around with

or you could click on the silent option

[eternal socket]

ah, so if the temp is around 40 C, i should set the fans to like 20%?

[burnt goblet]

aye

it is fairly logical etc

[eternal socket]

since rn my CPU temp is around 40 to 45 on idle

which is normal right XD

[burnt goblet]

but, as mentioned, leave the CPU fan one alone

mess with the CHA1/2/3 ones

those are the ones making a racket in general

[eternal socket]

i see

turns out i am super dumb

there is a fan calibration button.....

@burnt goblet but thanks for ur help

[burnt goblet]

:)

you are very welcome :)

enjoy the new system :)

[merry crown]

@eternal socket you should also have this on your desktop https://i.gyazo.com/82e0b612ac7dbc788f1bb3e0f5ba5472.png

Just saying could always play with the fan curve on there as well

[eternal socket]

@merry crown which program is that?

[merry crown]

Asus AI Suite III

[eternal socket]

ty

[wintry oyster]

Im doing my first water cooling on my next build. I got the heat gun to do the bend. I know I'm missing something to put inside the hard tube and I cannot remember the name. Which is the best tool to cut the ascrylic hard tube? and what was teh name of the item you put inside hard tube?

during heating

[cold island]

its a sillicone insert, you just need to be sure to get the right diameter https://www.amazon.com/PrimoChill-Rigid-Silicone-Bending-Insert/dp/B01K2732UK?tag=gnviglinkanywhere-20

i'd check this https://www.gamersnexus.net/guides/2621-hard-tube-bending-tutorial-pc-liquid-cooling

[topaz blaze]

Hey, I have a problem

it’s going to be hard to explain, but I need a cpu cooler, that dousnt screw in to the mobo.

Does anyone have any idea?

[chrome cedar]

Umm some coolers use a latch but there is still a noun screwed into mobo

[wintry oyster]

@cold island how do I know it's the right diameter? I will have a 10mm/16mm acrylic hard tube.

@cold island I appreciate the link. Little nervous and been watching so many videos

[cold island]

buy 10mm, that’s the inner diameter

[wintry oyster]

Got it

[cold island]

but I’d probably watch other videos cause I’m not the most knowledgeable with hard line

[wintry oyster]

@cold island appreciate it man. This makes me feel like when I was building my first build lol. I ordered am extra ser of tubes to practice on as well.

[cold island]

yeah water cooling looks like a really fun project :) always good to have extra

[eternal socket]

water cooling sounds scary to build

[low pumice]

And that's why #aircoolinggang

[regal plaza]

@low pumice for real

[hollow panther]

If i were to ask about case fans would I do it in here or in #cases-psu-and-cooling

[regal plaza]

Here

[hollow panther]

ight

what are some good value case fans

idc that much about acoustics, just some that are semi-cheap, and hopefully black

or rgb

[regal plaza]

Budget?

And how many

[hollow panther]

um

like three

maybe $15

[regal plaza]

Each?

Or total

[hollow panther]

id be willing to do like $25 total at most

[regal plaza]

Hmmmm lemme do something

[hollow panther]

ight

[regal plaza]

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/jcgQzy/uphere-t7syc7-3-120-mm-fans-t7syc7-3

32

Idk of qny better

Pack of 6 for 45

[hollow panther]

epic thx

[inner stirrup]

Does anyone know the specs on these screws/posts? I have the bracket and I need to make sure I have the right hardware before my build this sunday but I can't find the details on these screws.

[river gorge]

when you get those kits, the bags are usually labeled.

"am4" "intel"

[inner stirrup]

correct, however I build a lot of PC's and reuse parts often. I've misplaced the original packaging and I have a load of screws and posts...I just wasn't sure what size I needed

[river gorge]

I know the feeling

I have a box full of screws 😛

[regal plaza]

You are a box bruh

[river gorge]

but what you posted does look like the am4 posts.

if memory is correct.

I think the intel had longer threads.

[inner stirrup]

this is 100% the correct posts from Corsair's site. But they do not mention the size.

I have a number of similar posts and screws in a box in various lengths. If I use the wrong ones, the cooler will not make solid contact with the CPU. I'm looking to understand and ensure I have the correct ones prior to build rather than trial and error

[eternal token]

So, I have my case fans connected via sata power. Is there a way to connect them to the SysFan to control the speed based on the temperature?

[regal plaza]

Youd need a fan hub I believe @eternal token

[storm scarab]

Hello, friends! Does the Fluid Gaming A240R Complete Dual 120mm Water / Liquid Cooling Kit 240mm with EK-AC Radeon Vega GPU Block fit on the GIGABYTE AMD Radeon RX VEGA56 Gaming OC 8G - GV-RXVEGA56GAMING OC-8GD ???

[magic sparrow]

Be careful with fluid gaming. Apparently have issues with shipping out their blocks with untightened screws thus causing leaking. I'd go for Barrow/Bykski as they are slightly cheaper, full copper, and could have RGB depending on the model you get

[hasty sable]

Guys if I have a mid range build and I'm not planning or wanting to overclock can I use the fan that comes with the CPU eg an amd one?

Cus I'm in high school and my mates are saying to save the money from buying another CPU fan like Corsair

[idle tiger]

Yes, got a link to a pcpartpicker? Describe your vision of your intended use case. What prorgams? What current issues with your setup cause frustration?

[hasty sable]

Nah I don't have any issues but I'm looking to get a new rig since I only have had an old one and I'll be using it for gaming and prolly school work

I'll try and make the one I'm gonna get

On pcpartpicker

[idle tiger]

Sounds like a 3600, 2x8GB , 500GB nvme drive, $80 PSU, $20 in tools, $100-250 GPU, $50-100 case, $10 paste, etc

[hasty sable]

Is that Aus or us?

[idle tiger]

US.

[hasty sable]

Ok

Cus Aus is higher when converting

[idle tiger]

$620 us is around the "sweet spot" for bang for buck , it's a local maxima on the performance vs price curve

[hasty sable]

Ok

https://au.pcpartpicker.com/list/Cgy3Nq

Do you reckon that I need a fan or no

Cus like I can but it'll be nice to save if I don't need it

CPU fan that is

[magic sparrow]

@hasty sable no need for an extra CPU fan. Also you can get better for the price
https://au.pcpartpicker.com/list/4HmJp8

[hasty sable]

Ok thanks

[gentle whale]

Hey guys, i had a question. I just built my second pc, im using the Wraith Prism cooler but i want something better. I was planning on getting a Cooler Master ML240L. My question is, can i swap the fans that come on the rad to the fans that i already have in my case?

[willow marlin]

Yup

[regal plaza]

@gentle whale why get an aio?

[river gorge]

Because they want one.

[low pumice]

But

Our names

[gentle whale]

Lol yall are great

I was looking at the hyper 212 black edition as well.

[burnt goblet]

the question is: What do you think you will gain from going with an AIO?

[river gorge]

no the question was " can i swap the fans that come on the rad to the fans that i already have in my case"

so the answer is yes, @gentle whale

if your case fans are 120mm 😄

[gentle whale]

They are

[river gorge]

then ya, no issue

[gentle whale]

@burnt goblet i just feel that if i went with the Hyper 212, its just so bulky in the case.

I have one in my last build that i gave to my sister

[burnt goblet]

consider this, air cooling = an amount of metal on top of your cpu

aio = an amount of metal somewhere else in the case

[gentle whale]

Yeah i know. Which one has better cooling. Im running a 2600x

[burnt goblet]

and do you actually plan on trying to OC the pants of the cpu?

[frail thorn]

Dark Rock Pro 4 gang

I went so overkill with the CPU cooler but oh well lpl

lol

[low pumice]

D15 or equivalent gang @frail thorn

[warm comet]

I would love to get a D15 just to test it. But thats a lot of money for a cooler that I don't really need.

the ones advertised with the am4 bracket are way too expensive on newegg

[low pumice]

Wierd

@warm comet I got my NH-D15 SE-AM4 same price as normal d15..?
https://www.amazon.com/Noctua-NH-D15-SE-AM4-Premium-Grade-Cooler/dp/B01NC06ZYT/ref=mp_s_a_1_5?keywords=nh-d15+se-am4&qid=1582310394&sprefix=nh-d15+&sr=8-5

[warm comet]

Eventually I will get one. Too many other things on the list for now

The only seller that has them on Newegg is first from asia and they have 3 different listings. the cheapest is $140 and the the others are $180

[low pumice]

Not saying you need or even should buy it

Noctua SHOULD logically be dropping out a d16 sometime this year

Anyways the Amazon link is sold from Noctua, and sold at same price as normal d15

[warm comet]

There is one for the same price on newegg and it lists am4, but its not the am4 model number

could just get the chromax. pretty sure it comes with the brackets

[low pumice]

Interesting

[warm comet]

but in the specs

[low pumice]

Wierd

I bought the SE-AM4 from Amazon iirc

I was able to get it from noctua

but it seems its no longer avaliable
https://www.newegg.com/noctua-nh-d15-se-am4/p/13C-0005-00111?Item=9SIAADY5BC1607

[burnt goblet]

@warm comet the whole "specific version for am4" was a stopgap thing.

[warm comet]

I know, but you never know when you will get old stock.

[burnt goblet]

hopefully never. Because FIFO should be in effect in any warehouse

https://noctua.at/en/noctua-cpu-coolers-now-include-am4-mounting-at-no-extra-cost

[warm comet]

Since Newegg has a product description with AM4 listed but in the specs it is not then I would have to assume they still have old product on the shelf. Its not like they will pull product they have already paid for off the shelf and dispose of it. The same can not be assumed for motherboard bios either. Anytime you order a product that was manufactured before and after another product was released unless its specified you have to assume the possibility of old stock unless you can hold it in your hand before purchase.

[burnt goblet]

newegg have plenty of descriptions that are wonky

[low pumice]

well

Noctua ships free mounting brackets if you do get a unit that doesn't have the bracket

[burnt goblet]

also, here is a nice example of wonky

https://www.newegg.com/noctua-nh-d15/p/N82E16835608045?Description=NH-d15&cm_re=NH-d15-_-35-608-045-_-Product&quicklink=true

what exactly is a "d-type"

because they sure as .... dont explain that anywhere

and they link directly to a bog standard d15 page

[sudden wasp]

will the amd wraith spire fan fit on my ryzen 5 3600? i know the spire comes stock with teh 3600x

i just want the LED ring tbh..

[burnt goblet]

it will

you can take any "higher up the rank" heatsink and use down the stack

@sudden wasp does that answer it for you?

[sudden wasp]

sweet, thanks a lot. @burnt goblet

[burnt goblet]

anytime :)

[autumn ice]

So heres the situation, looking for advice.
-I am running a i7 7700 and GTX 1060

-My PC has been running a bit loud lately (and maybe hot?).
-Speccy is reporting both my GPU and CPU are running about 80F under low load.
-About 30C each.
-I have been running roughly the same build for about 4-6 years now.
-I have cleaned the system (after neglecting to clean it for quite some time) and applied new paste to the CPU and GPU
-I am running a Corsair H100i v2 cooler currently and believe that it may be the source of the noise.

-Someone has recommended the Cooler Master Hyper 212 RGB Edition.
-My CPU temps seem to be fine even while gaming but my GPU seems to struggle temp wise (looking at maybe getting a better GPU soon).
-Trying to figure out if I should continue AIO cooling or switch to Air Cooling and if the temps would be much different either way and what recomendations are out there for cooling.

[merry crown]

@autumn ice for CPU and GPU that is quite cool

proper measurements for temps as well is C not F

[autumn ice]

Its more of a noise issue, its driving me nuts and I am not sure if the AIO I have isnt dying?

[merry crown]

play with the fan curves if your AIO fans are connected to your motherboard and use something like MSI Afterburner to play with your GPU fan curve

Also 80F is about 26C

now if you were at like 180F then there would be some problems

[autumn ice]

I stopped all fans including my GPU fan except the fans on my AIO because I would have to remove them, the 30C is average, its bouncing around a bit

Noise still persisted but it sounds like the radiator and maybe the pump?

[merry crown]

You do clean the rad right

if not use compressed air (air duster) and blow out any dust that might be on it

[autumn ice]

I didnt know how to removed the front plate of the PC so it sat for about 4-5 years without ever being cleaned and it was cacked unfortunately..

But it is fairly clean now

[viral fjord]

yo, I have a R5 3600X with stock cooler right now and temps are fine (max 76) but it's a little noisy

do you guys think cooler master hyper 212 rgb black edition is worth it for $35

[low pumice]

no

[viral fjord]

I'm looking more for quieter operation than significantly better thermals

trying to find a video that compares noise levels

as far as thermals go I'm satisfied with stock

but if I can get a cooler that does as well or slightly better without being as loud for cheap then I'm interested

[merry crown]

@low pumice Why do you think it is not worth it

[viral fjord]

I have open backed headphones so even while listening to music my cpu fan is audible sometimes

[merry crown]

I have the 212 Evo RGB and i hit a max of 47c on load and it is very quiet

[viral fjord]

I also isolated the noise to the cpu fan by going into bios and individually setting each fan to 100% one at a time

may I ask what cpu and what clock speed

[low pumice]

I dont like aftermarket cooler when its stable without

but meh

[merry crown]

R5 2600

[viral fjord]

I've left my 3600X on PBO and 3dmark reports 4.325 GHz

just want some perspective for that 47C

my highest cpu temp is 76 in 3dmark

[merry crown]

Technically the Wrath coolers are aftermarket since they are made by Cooler Master

[viral fjord]

@low pumice well the point here is noise, the 212 seems to be significantly quieter from what I've seen

like I said my stock cooler is fine in a pure thermals performance vacuum

[low pumice]

when stock is an option