which cooler is better this one
#old-cooling
left pulsar
Not by a ton, but the 1st one for the 5 heatpipes. 2nd one is the CM 212 or w/e it is, usually overpriced
fallen jackal
Not by a ton, but the 1st one for the 5 heatpipes. 2nd one is the CM 212 or w/e ...
so which one is better
left pulsar
The 1st one.
fallen jackal
ok i paid 40$ for the hyper 212 and 25 $ for the vetroo v5
so i use the first one for my cpu and it runs at 66 c at 45watt power draw
but its rated for 150w
sacred wren
ok i paid 40$ for the hyper 212 and 25 $ for the vetroo v5
The h212 is a very old cooler
Not worth buying anymore
left pulsar
That was a common match for it. 
sacred wren
You can say crap
fallen jackal
ok
shrewd juniper
The h212 is a very old cooler
H212 black is "newer" but not a huge amount better still better, just better enough to make it competitive with vetroo etc just not price wise than the og tjo
west ridge
Has anyone had any experience with the new SL infinity fans from lian li and razer synapse?
I have the older models and they work flawlessly with synapse but for some reason the new infinity models just spaz out and have what feels like multiple lighting profiles going at once.
hazy oyster
Hey guys , My stock intel fan is making a humming sound
this is only making when at the startup
after 20s its gone
any advice or any product recommendation
Thanks btw 🙂
knotty sparrow
If this is a new problem on an existing build it could be the bearing is going out. It's not really a problem per se if temps are still fine.
If you wanted you could get a cheap tower cooler. Which CPU is it?
marsh badge
^
strange flume
Nah
Specifically fits older intel chips and is very weak for actual cooling power
Normal aio's do better
bold birch
its suppose to go sub zero tho
strange flume
Cool for that sub-zero idle tho
bold birch
i think it reaches below ambient
strange flume
Yea but for load power it still doesn't cope
bold birch
thought it did cope
strange flume
I also know someone who had one and went to a chiller after this didn't work lol
left pulsar
Basically overall, they suck. Also note those temps are over ambient so add around 20c to get actual core temps. 
knotty sparrow
TEC coolers are great... Until you overload their cooling capacity, then temps spike exponentially
knotty sparrow
Only 200? It takes 500 minimum to cool a 12600k
knotty sparrow
At least under full load
That just means the tec they used isn't strong enough
It's a meme cooler
strange flume
@viral fjord
viral fjord
ty
rotund sable
ice bucket > tec
fallen jackal
i got a question why is my i5 pulling 50 watts and staying at 56c ( stock cooler )but my ryzen 7 pulls 45watts and it runs at 67c
i use noctua nt h1 thermal paste
dreamy locust
i got a question why is my i5 pulling 50 watts and staying at 56c ( stock cooler...
Are you using the same cooler? If yes then:
The power (for the R7) may be concentrated in some specific cores while the others are idle
And on the other side your i5 may be pulling 50w and using them between all cores equally
Ofc if you're using different coolers it is normal for temps to be different
shrewd juniper
Also probably different cases/fan layouts etc
strange flume
Different tdp measurements, IHS effectiveness and general idle behaviour
There's a lot of possible factors lol
dreamy locust
There's a lot of possible factors lol
Yep, it's not super easy to determine
We'd also meet to know which i5 and which R7
Because <11th gen have smaller ihs than 12th gen
Example
knotty sparrow
Inb4 the R7 is the 5800X on an air cooler
strange flume
Yeah I was wondering if it was the hot boi ryzen lol
shrewd juniper
Yeah also different architectures the i5 could well be a 6th gen 
fallen jackal
Are you using the same cooler? If yes then:
The power (for the R7) may be concen...
for the i5 is stock and ryzen 7 its a vetroo v5
shrewd juniper
for the i5 is stock and ryzen 7 its a vetroo v5
But what ryzen 7
fallen jackal
But what ryzen 7
5700G
shrewd juniper
Different case and fan setup too im guessing?
fallen jackal
one in a dell optiplex the i5
shrewd juniper
Yeah so like 4th gen then or something?
fallen jackal
3rd gen
fallen jackal
Yeah so like 4th gen then or something?
higher tdp but lower temps
shrewd juniper
higher tdp but lower temps
Tldr because 3rd gen has a higher tdp does not mean it's hotter, 3rd gen has a larger transistor size than ryzen 5000 and smaller transistors mean more heat
fallen jackal
so higher TDP not = higher temp?
shrewd juniper
Not necessarily higher power does equals more heat but because in 3rd gen Intel the transistors are so much larger and the heat is a lot more spread out on the 3rd gen Intel chip because I don't know if the size off the top of my head but they're like 20 NM where as ryzen 5000 is like 7 NM so is a good size difference, ryzens transistors are a lot more dense so hence they are hotter
That wasn't the shortest explanation but oh well
fallen jackal
the denser a cpu is, the hotter it will get
so ur saying that a 5600x is 7nm but it runs cooler than the ryzen 7 while drawing 60+ watts ( im guessing its because its a 6 core instead of 8 cores )
fallen jackal
also my cpu cooler is a like it says it could handle 150w of power draw but i turn on the PBO on my ryzen cpu and it instanly rocket up to 86c
using130w
fallen jackal
It's just heat
yes and i think the 5700g is locked to 45 w
when gaming
it wont even go above 50w
shrewd juniper
also my cpu cooler is a like it says it could handle 150w of power draw but i tu...
86c under load is fine
shrewd juniper
Perfectly within spec
fallen jackal
ik the max temp for this cpu is 95c
shrewd juniper
Can always make a slightly more aggressive fan curve if you don't like it that high
It will throttle at 95c ye
shrewd juniper
In regards to final temp yes
uneven solstice
Are there any white aio that are as good as or better than a 360 arctic LFII?
strange flume
Galahad really the only one in that regard
And I believe that's with the cheaper fans
Not the unifan version
uneven solstice
Not the unifan version
Why not that version?
strange flume
The fans make a performance difference iirc
Unless you swapped them for more p12s
In which case the cheaper one also makes sense lol
uneven solstice
In which case the cheaper one also makes sense lol
Yeah I have white argb p12s coming.
strange flume
Yea then just get the non unifan version in white
shrewd juniper
Are there any white aio that are as good as or better than a 360 arctic LFII?
Galahad
shrewd juniper
Unifan version should be fine
uneven solstice
Yea then just get the non unifan version in white
I'm having trouble finding the cheaper one
strange flume
Unifan version should be fine
No point in the extra if the fans won't be used anyway
shrewd juniper
I'm having trouble finding the cheaper one
strange flume
That one
uneven solstice
What's up with that silver thing in the middle of the pump?
uneven solstice
Removable?
strange flume
Ye
strange flume
I believe so
uneven solstice
Something I can easily put on or remove while its mounted so I can see what I like more?
Ok
strange flume
Something I can easily put on or remove while its mounted so I can see what I li...
My memory isn't that good 
shrewd juniper
Is it like.. a magnet or something?
Yeah
uneven solstice
But i try
Just got done watching a half hour vid that took me an hour -.-
Anyways, looks pretty flippin solid. Especially since I'll be putting p12s on it.
strange flume
Yeah it'll be good
uneven solstice
Now.. to sell or keep my arctic 360..
I should probably keep in the event something happens.
strange flume
||TL:DR after a bit of digging, decent but not cream of the crop material by the looks of it, maybe wait for more reviews soon. EDIT: hmm actually, not too sure about that either , still need more reviews||
uneven solstice
https://www.igorslab.de/en/deepcool-ls720-im-test-2/
Whats up with this?
Oops, should have scrolled down
strange flume
New cooler coming out like the AK lineup but reviews are limited
I've been keeping an eye out for more info because the AK400 and 620 were really good, I realise those are completely different coolers when I say that tho but it's enough to grab my attention
shrewd juniper
https://www.igorslab.de/en/deepcool-ls720-im-test-2/
With a special installation wish 
strange flume
With a special installation wish <:sayoriWhat:624350597113577492>
Tubes down on the mount
Weird way to imply it on their part
I agree lol
shrewd juniper
Tubes down on the mount
It has to have tubes on the bottom if front mounting?
strange flume
On the mobo mount
They suggest "6 o'clock" for tube orientation
For "optimal performance"
shrewd juniper
Weird
uneven solstice
That sounds like there is something wrong with the design of their pump if they have to suggest a specific orientation to get better thermals.
dreamy locust
Is there any way to use 2 fan curves for case fans? Like on curve for when CPU gets hot and another for when GPU gets hot.
Or is it not possible because they'd interfere and like sum the two curves making the fans go crazy?
And if it is possible to do it with "Fan Control" app
uneven solstice
And if it is possible to do it with "Fan Control" app
yes
dreamy locust
Seriously? Yeeeeah
uneven solstice
you'll want to make 2 graph curves
dreamy locust
Explain
dreamy locust
I already have my curves, I've made one for front fans related to CPU temp, and one for back fan - GPU temp + front fan GPU and back fan GPU
uneven solstice
dreamy locust
Like these are the graphs I created for now, basically both backFan curves are because the back fan should spin faster than the other ones
dreamy locust
Aaah ok
Now I understand, I just did not see where to add two or more graphs
Thank you
Very well and easily explained
Thanks
😃
uneven solstice
Aaah ok
Now I understand, I just did not see where to add two or more graphs
T...
No problem 🙂
dreamy locust
Also do you know why with the CPU fan curve the same as bios, with fan control it goes slightly faster (~+100rpm)? Is it because bios uses like CPU package temp?
Or other CPU temp sources
I noticed fan control disables bios curves completely, it's like if it puts fan speeds in idle...
dreamy locust
Yes but with the software completely closed it still overrides them, it should not I guess
All my fans disappeared oof
What is the step up time for fans in bios usually? %/s
uneven solstice
What is the step up time for fans in bios usually? %/s
idk about your bios, but my bios gives me the option to change it, but I believe default is instant?
dreamy locust
Nvm I changed it so fans don't ramp up too fast
bold birch
Can I just use some paper towels and alcohol to clean off old paste for a cpu? And
shrewd juniper
Don't use like vodka or something
But yeah i use kitchen roll and rubbing alcohol
bold birch
Yea we only use the best fine aged wines for a repaste around here
shrewd juniper
opens a beer to clean cpu
But tbf out of all the drinking alcohols, vodka would be the best cuz least water and sugar contents
bold birch
I ain’t Russian tho
shrewd juniper
Although I'd just try with small but of water first if instead of vodka
Aint needa be Russian lol
bold birch
I heard vodka runs in their veins
shrewd juniper
7up and vodkas quite nice actually
bold birch
Free alcohol
shrewd juniper
Oh it do but you can also buy it in the shop
bold birch
True
I’ll prob do the repaste sometime this week when I feel like it
With some kryonaut
civic shale
I have Drgb fans, will they work with this connector?
low pumice
drgb argb typically the same thing, if it's 5v 3 pin, it'll work
hexed sable
Hi! So I built my pc with lian li uni sl 120 fans a year ago. Never had problems up until now..? 2 of my fans white color are bright yellow / orange. Does anyone have the same problem before?
shrewd juniper
Hi! So I built my pc with lian li uni sl 120 fans a year ago. Never had problems...
You're just gonna have to contact lian li for a replacement or something
knotty sparrow
Best possible are going to be around $25-30 per fan. Probably the Lian Li uni fans.
Arctic P12 and P14 a-rgb would be great options, and more budget friendly. You can do 3x p12 on front, 2x p14 on top, and one p14 rear.
smoky bramble
Anyone personally running a 5800x with a Liquid Freezer 360? I'm trying to determine if my temps are normal or if I need more airflow
knotty sparrow
What temps are you getting? 5800X is one of the hottest current CPUs
smoky bramble
At idle I see anywhere from 42-50 C
But just running like cinebench, it jumps to like 85C on multi core
magic sparrow
5800X(3D) have the highest heat density of the 5000 series, even higher then 5950x
knotty sparrow
If you get under 90 under all core loads then you're good. It doesn't get much better than that.
smoky bramble
Oh okay
uneven solstice
Does anyone have the tier list for case fans? I remember seeing one a few weeks ago posted in here.
nvm found it.
strange flume
O.o
uneven solstice
O.o
I forgot it was you who posted it 😛
yes I hunted down your post from a month ago lol
@strange flume Do you by chance know what fans come on the Galahad?
strange flume
3 kinds, maybe 4 with the new infinity ones
If you got the cheap galahad, st120's
Those are good
The unifan versions are meh fans
uneven solstice
If you got the cheap galahad, st120's
https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/1687782-REG/lian_li_ga_360a_white_galahad_aio_360_rgb.html this is what I got
strange flume
Yep those are st120's
uneven solstice
alright cool. I'm just gonna grab those since my amazon order for the p12s is having major issue. So much so that I have to wait until the 3rd before I can even get a refund.
plus, will only have to grab two 3-packs since the aio already has them
shrewd juniper
Does anyone have the tier list for case fans? I remember seeing one a few weeks ...
Arctic
Arctic
Arctic
Ek
Arctic
uneven solstice
Arctic
Arctic
Arctic
Ek
Arctic
pfft I would be doing arctic, but look at above comment
plusss, I have gotten a total of $70 promo credit from them so I can use that towards these fans since these are sold/shipped by amazon. That's the stipulation with the promo credit
shrewd juniper
pfft I would be doing arctic, but look at above comment
which one?
also you already have a case full of the best :o
uneven solstice
also you already have a case full of the best :o
The white led all turned yellow in the last month.
shrewd juniper
rma?
uneven solstice
so while they are good for airflow.. their led was not that great
I've only had them for 2 maybe 3 months now
uneven solstice
rma?
I don't want them. out of 13 fans.. from different packages.. they all turned yellow.
I'm good on that.
shrewd juniper
Rip, but they gabe you credit?
uneven solstice
well. these are the fans that I originally ordered 8 of and they showed up with wrong cables and got them to send me another 8 free of charge without having to return these ones so I got a total of 16 for the price of 8.
but the credit I have now is from calling customer service and raising heck about me not getting my arctic p12s on wednesday and it still not being shipped even today
case is a mess right now. I'm waiting for new fans before I even put in galahad and make it all nice and pretty.
shrewd juniper
ahhh i see
strange flume
My god that sapphire is xtreme thicc
Jeez
Almost noctua thicc
Definitely 90 Ti thicc
shrewd juniper
thiccccccccccccccc
uneven solstice
it's only rainbow because I can't change it without plugging a cable from the gpu to the mobo, which the gpu didn't come with -.-
strange flume
It didn't let you change it in the sapphire software?
strange flume
Ye I remember reading that you could do that
But if you want to sync it to the mobo you use the plug
uneven solstice
I'm looking for fans atm though because I want to get my build looking pretty asap.
strange flume
Then in sapphire software you click like, sync to external header or something
And that links it to mobo
uneven solstice
I see.
ugh, idk what fan to get for the rear exhaust that isn't going to look weird paired with all the st120s
shrewd juniper
bleh, I can't find a st120 single pack
Only 3 packs afaik lol
strange flume
Tmw the better fan only in 3 pacc
uneven solstice
I guess I could grab just 1 arctic p12
strange flume
I was gonna suggest that as a joke but I didn't expect this
shrewd juniper
I guess I could grab just 1 arctic p12
You gotta send your fans back?
uneven solstice
I'm almost thinking though that the single arctic that I ordered is what's causing the issue
shrewd juniper
Ye
uneven solstice
no. well. idk. I just sent a message to Antec through amazon to see what they could do.. but I kinda already threw away all the boxes.
well just ordered 2 3-packs of the ST120's for 26$ so IF the arctics show up for some reason before the 3rd.. idk if I'll use them. I might just return them since I got these for so cheap.
uneven solstice
I was gonna suggest that as a joke but I didn't expect this <:LUL:47711231757477...
I put the single arctic p12 on it's own order just in case that is what is the issue with my current order lol
if all goes well, then I will be able to FINALLY make my pc look pretty on my next weekend.
strange flume
Tmw the single fan turns up first
uneven solstice
so far it's projected to show up a day after my other fans/extension
uneven solstice
OMG. My order says it shipped lol
and I just got off phone with amazon and got my refund lolol
shrewd juniper
Stonks
uneven solstice
idk how I can hate and love amazon at the same time lol
knotty sparrow
You'd be amazed how badly optimized Amazon's order system is. As a driver I've delivered plenty of orders that were cancelled and people had to chase me down to take it back.
There was even one house that they told me they had been getting auto orders from the previous owner for diapers for almost a year. They tried to call to get the auto order cancelled but only the account owner can do that. I contacted my boss, who contacted his boss, who called the account owner and emailed them. No response. Legend says they're still paying for diapers every month years later.
noble quarry
thats quite the tale to scare young kids into bed
uneven solstice
You'd be amazed how badly optimized Amazon's order system is. As a driver I've d...
sheesh. And I needed you 10 hours ago to pick a number lol
knotty sparrow
sheesh. And I needed you 10 hours ago to pick a number lol
Huh?
uneven solstice
Huh?
I tagged you and 3 others to give me a random number between 1-70 so I could get a lottery ticket for the $1.1 Billion jackpot drawing tonight. I bought 50 tickets with 1 of the tickets with your guys' numbers on it. I wanted a number from you but you were prob sleeping/busy. I tagged you twice lol
knotty sparrow
Oh I saw I got pinged in general chat, that must have been it. Yeah I was sleeping. Didn't feel like scrolling up to read an hours old ping when I got on.
uneven solstice
Oh I saw I got pinged in general chat, that must have been it. Yeah I was sleepi...
I get it lol
uneven solstice
Oh I saw I got pinged in general chat, that must have been it. Yeah I was sleepi...
is there not a feature on PC like mobile that you can just press the @mentions button and it'll show you all your most recent mentions?
knotty sparrow
I was not aware of the existence of such a feature
uneven solstice
it is most handy 😛
knotty sparrow
I know you can do a search for messages that mention specific users
uneven solstice
Ah, it must be a mobile only thing for ease of access
uneven solstice
I just recieved an email from amazon that they were able to find my order and that even though they refunded me that I can keep the items.
magic sparrow
Recent Mentions kinda sad cuz it only stays upto a week iirc. Wish it was a bit longer as my primary use of it is for old mentions.
uneven solstice
Recent Mentions kinda sad cuz it only stays upto a week iirc. Wish it was a bit ...
yeah that'd be nice to have at least a previous month or 2.
glad sail
is the lian li galahad 360 or the arctic freezer II 360 better
glad sail
alr id rather spend the little extra cash for a overall better looking in my opinion with the galahad
glad sail
but also does it come with thermal paste applied and either way would u recommend putting on better thermal paste
and if so from where
marsh badge
you don't need to replace the paste those come with
difference is probably just gonna be 1-2c
glad sail
alr just checking
glad sail
alright cool
but anyways now i know that would u recommend anything for this build? btw i already have the psu and gpu but gonna make sure i shouldn't change anything else before i buy the rest. also btw im getting the 980 pro with the build then the 970evo plus a bit later when the storage on the 980 pro gets almost full https://pcpartpicker.com/list/9cQTpH
uneven solstice
but also does it come with thermal paste applied and either way would u recommen...
Both AIO come with a plunger of paste with enough to paste 2 maybe 3 times.
Source: I own both.
shrewd juniper
is there not a feature on PC like mobile that you can just press the @mentions b...
Not on pc for some reason, you'd have to search :mentions @....
shrewd juniper
but anyways now i know that would u recommend anything for this build? btw i alr...
980 pro is a waste of money btw
shrewd juniper
but anyways now i know that would u recommend anything for this build? btw i alr...
If you really want the o11 mini
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/y6bFbK
Would do regular o11 instead if you want that style
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/9qMqPX
Although I'd personally do this
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/HxvH78
languid gale
Shame he already bought the ventus
shrewd juniper
Return then
Ventus 3070 ti plus is just bad
Ventus 3x is fine for 3070 and below but it does not handle the g6x well
sacred wren
but anyways now i know that would u recommend anything for this build? btw i alr...
I would get a p31 and p41 instead of those drives, for psu I'd get 850 g6 (better psu and cheaper)
topaz blaze
Does anyone know if the amd cooler that comes with the 2700x can cool the Ryzen 9 5900x
Not wanting to spend an extra 50$-100$ to cool my new cpu
noble quarry
glacial spindle
my guess is yes, but it'll probably do a mediocre job at best & you'll miss out on PBO which gives you a considerable performance boost for no additional charge (except getting a cooler I suppose)
there are other factors like your case thermals in general, ambient temps, heat from GPU, etc.
I would not recommend it
& by can "cool," do you mean like it'll turn on & run do web browsing? cuz if that's all you need I dunno why you upgraded
noble quarry
you dont spend on a high end cpu to cheap on the cooling solution
it can run, but as ggood said, it will be heavily slowed cause insufficient cooling
its like going 12900k with the rm1 cooler... it will fit, it can blow air... but man... you get the point
someone tested that already i guess?
shrewd juniper
Does anyone know if the amd cooler that comes with the 2700x can cool the Ryzen ...
Technically it will fit but you will be thermal throttling to hell
Go 5700x and get a good cooler instead, like ak620 for 65$
noble quarry
yo pato any thoughts on the mp34? seems like an upgraded version of the mp33
shrewd juniper
yeah is good
although idk about the mp34q which ive seen recently
theres a tier list in #storage-devices
bit outdated but decent
glacial spindle
MP33 pro has been good on my dad's build lol
shrewd juniper
Yeah it's good too although only when within like 2-3$ of non pro
glacial spindle
I know that wasn't the question but thought I'd try to contribute lol
glacial spindle
Yeah it's good too although only when within like 2-3$ of non pro
ya when I got it, it was on sale or something cuz it was $3 cheaper than regular MP33
noble quarry
goin to check that list, brb
glacial spindle
I always feel like I don't have enough NVMes
I do but why does it feel otherwise
this isn't a tech question nvm
noble quarry
tier b... not bad
glacial spindle
that Hynix one is pretty good
shrewd juniper
my old and trsuty sn550 is a tier c D:
Although sn550 has some top class random performance so
Can't complain much
shrewd juniper
Not as good in sequential so like downloading games but when you open the game it's gonna be up there close to a p31
About same tbh my sn550 is doing good
Big improvement over my hyper x 240gb sata
noble quarry
i was inclined to buy a 750 but the price on the mp34 was too good to pass
71usd for 1tb
noble quarry
😮
i tho "if the 550 was good, then the 750 should be better" but the price was a no no
glad i went for the mp34
shrewd juniper
Yeah lemme see if i can get a graph
@noble quarry
https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/500102969702875156/863533614620737546/missing-image.jpg
noble quarry
beautiful
shrewd juniper
I believe they changed some parts and now it's not as good but still
noble quarry
well im pretty happy with my 550 so, meh, if my wintendo and my games open fast and the ssd is ok then im happy
shrewd juniper
Wintendo? That an emulator?
strange flume
Winlux
worldly dawn
Hey, I got an RGB question,I just got the HD120 rgb fan kit from corsair, every fan has a 4 pin RGB header, can I plug them into the 4 pin headers on my motherboard and control it through software or do I have to go through the rgb hub?
knotty sparrow
You should be able to use the board header but be careful not to put too many on one header, or you'll get weird issues like flickering
worldly dawn
I got like 4 headers, are they polarity specific?
left pulsar
do not mix up rgb and argb connections.
knotty sparrow
There should be arrows on the board and wire that line up
noble quarry
do not mix up rgb and argb connections.
you should pin this, i could use it for future references 🙂
knotty sparrow
Pinned the bigger version in #building-and-recc-chat
left pulsar
Right on. That way people know not to use the old gigglebyte cable
worldly dawn
do not mix up rgb and argb connections.
The rgb plug-ins don't look like either of these
left pulsar
oh yep, this is sort of proprietary..... use the hub. These fans basically can't go straight to the mobo, maybe.
knotty sparrow
The hub should connect to the board at least but you'll probably be stuck using iCue
noble quarry
icue things are not openrgb compatible?
knotty sparrow
Sometimes yes but sometimes no
noble quarry
corsair being corsair
knotty sparrow
Openrgb can be pretty limited on the patterns you can do with Corsair when it does work
worldly dawn
I've been using signal RGB to control my ram, I didn't get that extra cable with my set, might have to email corsair
left pulsar
well nothing in that pic goes to the mobo.
worldly dawn
I was wondering how that accessory wire attaches in all of it
left pulsar
all I see is (it's a remote).
covert apex
The Lightning Node Core has a USB 2.0 header cable
noble quarry
hey @sacred wren san, your ak620 came with the lga1700 bracket?
sacred wren
hey <@654444344274845698> san, your ak620 came with the lga1700 bracket?
i said the wrong name
i meant clc 280
worldly dawn
The Lightning Node Core has a USB 2.0 header cable
The Icue commander core?
worldly dawn
Ookk I see I see
rare coral
Going to build in a 4000d airflow, using a 360mm radiator in the front. This meaning i have the top slots available and the exhaust in the back. Thinking that i will put 2 140mm in the top and 1 120mm in the back as exhaust. Will this be to much exhaust creating negative pressure, or am i just overthinking?
shrewd juniper
Going to build in a 4000d airflow, using a 360mm radiator in the front. This mea...
I would do 1 120 in the back and 1 120 or 140 in the top rear, and leave the top towards the front empty
rare coral
Oke thx, just so i can learn. Reasoning behind this? @shrewd juniper
shrewd juniper
Oke thx, just so i can learn. Reasoning behind this? <@191276897227898880>
Fan in the very front top can disrupt the natural air flow and just suck out some cold air
rare coral
Fan in the very front top can disrupt the natural air flow and just suck out som...
Okay, i know its basiclly useless, i have extra fans left. Thinking about doing a push pull on the radiator. Does this affect this?
shrewd juniper
Push pull is just a waste of money tbh I'd just sell them return them or keep as spares
magic sparrow
Openrgb can be pretty limited on the patterns you can do with Corsair when it do...
Plugins are great for fixing that
rare coral
i will keep them as spares then, thx alot for the help
magic sparrow
oh yep, this is sort of proprietary..... use the hub. These fans basically can't...
Proprietary kinda nice if it can easily be split out be an adapter. Easier cable management. Tho Im typically use to 6P fan+RGB that is semi-standard at least (connector is, for Bykski, EzDIY [sometimes], UpHere, Coolermaster [kinda], etc). Pinout isnt always same tho, but could fix that without too much effort usually as pins used are always the same.
bold birch
Push pull is just a waste of money tbh I'd just sell them return them or keep as...
Isn’t push pull useful for af and higher wattage cpus
Like 200w+
knotty sparrow
Only in certain cases and coolers
It's like 2 degrees difference at best most of the time
left pulsar
Isn’t push pull useful for af and higher wattage cpus
It's perhaps somewhat useful with a super thicccc rad
bold birch
Whyd u send a car radiator jk
left pulsar
Say no more: ("big"time diminishing returns though for most setups of course.) Would be funny having that as the side panel.
knotty sparrow
From testing I saw the mora was worse than AIO
left pulsar
Some aios, yes indeed. 1 thing I quickly read was about the tubing inside it, maybe. Definitely don't seem tons better than a normal 360 or even 420mm LF2 (depending on cpu, and of course reviews on those huge rads aren't too numerous also).
river orchid
im trying to find four waterblocks compatible with a g34 cpu socket, it should be from around 2010 so im assuming its going to be used, but if anyone knows where i can find a block that would be compatible id really appreciate it
covert apex
Why would you waste your money on watercooling a quad G34 setup?
covert apex
EK made G34 waterblocks if you could find them
river orchid
im trying to watercool my whole server rack in a single loop
i saw they made blocks but i wasnt able to find anywhere i could actually buy em
river orchid
yeah
covert apex
Liquid cooling an entire rack sounds like a nightmare in terms of maintenance and a massive waste of money.
river orchid
i wonder if a 3d printed bracket for a standard aio block would work
covert apex
It could
river orchid
its not really a full rack, its just three old servers i have sitting in a rack on some 2x4s
mounting a full rack sounds awful
watercooling*
the 1366 sockets wont be hard to find a block for, im just really struggling with the g34 cpus
magic sparrow
From testing I saw the mora was worse than AIO
AIO rads, or AIO in general? If the latter, lots of stuff could go wrong for bad testing
knotty sparrow
Specifically the top ones we'd recommend like LFII 360
magic sparrow
Mora isnt really that great, but it should outperf any AIO rad
knotty sparrow
You'd think, but apparently there's a ton of resistance internally
magic sparrow
Specifically the top ones we'd recommend like LFII 360
Are we comparing Apples to Oranges here?
knotty sparrow
Technically, though maybe apples to crabapples
magic sparrow
You'd think, but apparently there's a ton of resistance internally
Which just means get a better pump(s)
Cant just put Mora in the incorrect scenario and then call it bad cuz it perfed terribly
I consider Mora bad due to FPI, getting 3/4 high (or mid if looking for low RPM fans) density rads would be better then Mora
knotty sparrow
Yeah GN had to use a dual D5 pump and a massive reservoir, as tall as the mora lol.
jovial glacier
Are there any budget friendly 140mm case fans? And also just need 1 120mm case fan too
jovial glacier
After upgrading to a 3080, I’m noticing that the heat it gives off is actually causing my room temperature to go higher and it sucks, so not sure if I need more case fans or if it’s something else. Temps are showing that the gpu is fine when gaming
jovial glacier
P12 and p14
Thanks 🙏
strange flume
Np and yeah the room will be warmer with a 350+w gpu goin lol
shrewd juniper
Inwin sirius if you want RGB
Idk if i trust inwin but phanteks have decent budget rgb, so do id cooling sometimes
shrewd juniper
After upgrading to a 3080, I’m noticing that the heat it gives off is actually c...
Nope that's normal
strange flume
It's a cultist suggested fan iirc
jovial glacier
Does more case fans lower the amount of heat exhausted?
jovial glacier
Ayoo so there’s no solution 😂
strange flume
Ya pretty much lol
left pulsar
Undervolt
jovial glacier
strange flume
Oh true i forgot about undervolting
jovial glacier
Thanks appreciate it 🙏
noble quarry
Solution could be fans for yourself as well
More exhaust fans mean more heat exhausted into your room. Good for the card, sucks for you 👀
shrewd juniper
Does more case fans lower the amount of heat exhausted?
What you're looking for is if you don't have air conditioning, opening your rooms door helps a lot but annoying, another solution is putting a desk fan intaking/exhausting at a window
uneven solstice
Just grab a swamp cooler, take off pc side panel and set cooler 2 inches from pc and let er blast.
Happy gpu and happy you.
jovial glacier
Alright for sure, thanks 🙏
night folio
hey is there a chance that power supply’s have 3 pin connectors for fans because i believe my mobo has 2 more 3 pin connectors but i have 4 fans
i kinda don’t want to wait and buy another splitter lmao
low pumice
No
shrewd juniper
No
Well actually my evga w1 had a molex to 3 pin for fans
So yes but i wouldn't recommend it, just get a fan hub
low pumice
Well actually my evga w1 had a molex to 3 pin for fans
Problem is no control
It'll do 100% at all times
low pumice
Lol
magic sparrow
It'll do 100% at all times
Or 42% 24/7. I have a whole bunch of old molex to 2p (cuz you dont need anything else) and 3p which take from the 5v instead of 12v. I like to keep them around for turning on my pump easily for custom loop maintenance stuff.
magic sparrow
Any fan can have speed controlled through DC. PWM was nicer for efficiency (in terms of not using resistance for DC control and always keeping the fan at its most efficient voltage level) and better control (can set to lower RPMs as its less prone to stalling)
topaz blaze
I currently have a Ryzen 9 5900x and I’m looking to cool it with the ak620 is there any other better coolers for it?
fresh sun
aio :D
topaz blaze
I only have 60$ to spend
And this is urgent to because my pc is currently being cooled by the cooler that comes with the 2700x 
tepid monolith
How much is the EVGA CLC 280mm and can your case support it?
mental flame
clc280 is loud
tepid monolith
meh
mental flame
i recommend replacement fans if you get it, and not to use their software
tepid monolith
still a good cooler for the money
mental flame
and a clc280+new fans is lf2 280 price
topaz blaze
How much is the EVGA CLC 280mm and can your case support it?
I’m not sure, I have the montech x1 atx
strange flume
Clc 280 is like 49.99 somewhere rn
topaz blaze
Is it loud though?
strange flume
Supposed to be if you push it hard, yes
But it'll handle a 5900X without a problem
strange flume
Even with PBO on and it's drawing as much as it wants, but nothing a p14 fan swap can't fix for like $20*
mental flame
it’s not uncomfortably loud, and quieter than lots of air coolers
but i would not call it quiet
strange flume
So like, net *10 more than a AK620 for much better? Yes
mental flame
not if you count the much needed fan replacements
strange flume
I had the price wrong I was thinking of p12's
Still worth imo. CLC been worth it for a long time now
sacred wren
Iirc it's back to $80
uneven solstice
@strange flume the LFII backplate works with the mounting kit for the Galahad 
strange flume
EHHHH
oh wait it's the lga1700 one isn't it
yeah likely would lol
I only suggested the metal ones cos they help with the mount a bit
uneven solstice
I was afraid of a different screw thread
That the LFII backplate couldn't be use because I couldn't screw the standoffs into it.
But id much rather use the metal backplate than that flimsy plastic one that comes with the galahad
lusty horizon
Hey guys does anyone have any experience with Kraken X53 AIO? I'm using the non rgb version but on the breakout cable it has an additional plug for NZXT lighting products. I'm now wondering what I can use this for besides their fans. Helps!
light fog
Is it a 4 pin or 3 pin plug?
If it's a 4 pin it should work with 12V RGB devices if it's 3 pins it's probably for 5V RGB connectors.
Unless that's that strange NZXT specific rgb plug.
In which case is probably just an extension.
shrewd juniper
Looks like a proprietary connector for an nzxt hub or something
lusty horizon
With the rgb version of the AIO I'm pretty sure it's where the fans would connect but I didn't get that version.
So I'm really not sure but I would like to utilize it if possible.
topaz blaze
I finally got my new cooler 😎
rotund sable
I finally got my new cooler 😎
what'd you get 👀
topaz blaze
what'd you get 👀
Ak620
To cool a ryzen 9 5900x
I had the cooler that came with a 2700x before LMAO
rotund sable
I had the cooler that came with a 2700x before LMAO
shrewd juniper
Byksi released an intel a380 waterblock.....
uneven solstice
I wish there was a beautiful waterblock like the sapphire lollll
Now I don't wanna go custom loop because gpu wouldn't look as awesome
fallen jackal
How do I fix these
bold birch
How do I fix these
Check off on screen osd in msi afterburner
Like how u turned it on
fallen jackal
Check off on screen osd in msi afterburner
no i mean the temps
look at the gpu fan speed
bold birch
Which model is it?
fallen jackal
its the hell hound rx 6650xt
bold birch
Might be normal on their fancurve
fallen jackal
3000rpm
bold birch
U can make your own fancurve tho in msi afterburner
bold birch
Try setting a fancurve in msi afterburner
bold birch
Bc it’s only at 140w
fallen jackal
i got 3 fan in 2 fan out
bold birch
yeah its like 32 c inside
That sorta answers question bro
bold birch
i got 3 fan in 2 fan out
That should be good airflow
fallen jackal
That sorta answers question bro
so i should buy a ac and blow at it?
fallen jackal
That should be good airflow
yeah i prob should use my optiplex instead of my main pc
bold birch
With an ambient of 32 your pc might a lil bit
fallen jackal
With an ambient of 32 your pc might a lil bit
yeah but my i7 on the other pc is running just fine at 62 c average
low pumice
that is not normal
btw, 70c isn't that bad
I'd just leave it alone if its 70c, you could even turn the fans down a bit, don't even really need to care until like 85c+ on AMD
signal vault
My old 2060 used to stop at 82C when I'd push it
fallen jackal
btw, 70c isn't that bad
very bad
signal vault
70C is still within a normal threshold
signal vault
That's still fine
slow condor
How come the gpu fans never go above 55% on my 3000 series card? Is that a built in longevity thing? Even on high loads
knotty sparrow
The default fan curve is very conservative because when those fans ramp up to 3200 rpm they're LOUD
marsh badge
^
hazy crown
Is this a good cooler? Or is there one cheaper with better or equal performance that is white and has an lcd screen
marsh badge
um well
there's practically none at the moment
it's your only remotely decent choice
but i would say that it's terrible value
marsh badge
corsair does have h150
hazy crown
Ok
plush hedge
Is it bad for the pump in an AIO to be in the radiator?
shrewd juniper
That's fine
uneven solstice
The default fan curve is very conservative because when those fans ramp up to 32...
Ya know.. yall say LOUD, but my fans at 100% whether they be case fans or gpu fans really don't seem as loud as you guys make it sound like they are.
I mean they are audible yeah, but way tolerable
knotty sparrow
I wear headphones when gaming, my fans are very distracting if I don't
uneven solstice
So.. This Galahad is keeping my 12600k cooler under extended load than my LFII did. With my LFII I was hitting max 71c, with the Galahad I haven't gone above 62c
while playing my game. that I play for 10+ hours at a time.
knotty sparrow
Probably a better mounting bracket, if they're the same size
uneven solstice
Probably a better mounting bracket, if they're the same size
I'm using the LFII backplate.
so idk if that changed anything
knotty sparrow
Huh. Well whatever works lol
Maybe using that backplate made the pressure distribution better
uneven solstice
the Galahad came with a really flimsy "backplate"
the LFII is a nice solid sheet of metal lol
knotty sparrow
Is this actually better than thermal grizzly?
No but it does beat noctua nt h2 by about half a degree, margin of error.
Thermal conductivity rating doesn't tell the whole story
knotty sparrow
The subzero? Yeah it's good
lilac pebble
processor temps 75 to 80c while gaming & 35c to 45c while doing other stuffs like browsing internet, watching videos, downloading etc on intel stock cooler.. are these temps ok? I live in India. Here its summer and my room temp is around 30 to 35c all day long..
Gpu temps 70c while gaming and 30-40 idle
shrewd juniper
Yeah that's perfectly fine for it
heady crown
Hey all I had a question about doing a custom loop liquid cool set up
Does the reservoir and pump have to me directly in line? Or can they just be in series?
This is what I'm looking at
Probably gonna sell the fans and get a second of the cryofuel as a backup
shrewd juniper
Does the reservoir and pump have to me directly in line? Or can they just be in ...
That looks way too pricey also why not wait for next gen if you're going custom loop
Or just use that money for an air cooled/aio next gen upgrade
heady crown
Cause I already got a $400 Crosshair board with a Ryzen 7 3700x
And 32gb ram
I don't need a next gen CPU or ram
I already have an aio for my CPU, but I also want to liquid cool my GPU and so I figured might as well hook my CPU up as well
@shrewd juniper
shrewd juniper
Cause I already got a $400 Crosshair board with a Ryzen 7 3700x
I mean you do you it's just terrible value especially on not brand new hardware
heady crown
I just got the hardware so...
The only thing that's not current gen is my cpu
Besides, we all saw what happened when the 3000rtx and 6000 Radeons released
3060 was $900
Besides all I'd need to do when I upgrade is just a new CPU heatsink
Also, Corsair would be about the same
shrewd juniper
Well 40 and 7000 series will be soon ish and same goes with cpu but 4060s won't be 900$ again, nvidia and amd have a load of overstock atm as that was due to covid and all the lockdowns n stuff
Again up to you but i just don't see the point custom cooling, spending hundreds to get a bit of a more quiet bit cooler pc when it's not the most top of the line
uneven solstice
Again up to you but i just don't see the point custom cooling, spending hundreds...
I agree. I also don't even know if I'm gonna go custom loop now if my sapphire comes in and works good. It looks so pog in there. If it doesn't work and I get a refund, then I'll get a 40 series and go custom loop
heady crown
I mean...3080 RTX....do I need much more GPU power?
I only play 1080p or 1440p
Not 4k
shrewd juniper
You may not need it but then why spend the money at all
heady crown
And honestly, I might wait till 2nd or 3rd gen AM5 when ddr5 becomes more mainstream before I upgrade CPU/GPU
And for gaming the Ryzen 7 and the 3080 are still pretty high end anyways
Might not be Ryzen 9/3090ti high end, But it's still up there
And even still...even if I do upgrade, my question still stands
Do they have to be directly connected or can they just be anywhere in the line
strange flume
@heady crown look up alphacool aio's. They have a strix version and that means you can have a custom waterblock without forking it out needlessly for a full custom loop. I have use it myself and it's been really good
uneven solstice
<@894571088967794749> look up alphacool aio's. They have a strix version and tha...
strange flume
I also would never put a 3700X under anything more than an aio, very needless thing to do. More worth it using the money to go with an upgrade to ryzen 5000 imo if anything
The strix cooler is also super overkill as it is stock. Can soak 500W afaik without breaking a sweat
heady crown
I'm mostly trying to make it smaller and cut down on weight
strange flume
But if you really want a gpu waterblock for what you have, the alphacool one is a decent way to do it
It's def smaller
heady crown
So it doesn't say as much, but still look cool
heady crown
I tried to use a GPU mount, but the spacing is tight, and it's hard to use without hitting the fans
strange flume
Which gpu mount?
heady crown
So it's a size issue in the case?
Not necessarily case, but a bit of both sizing and aesthetic
uneven solstice
Yet water will add weight...
heady crown
I got the Asus Herculx
heady crown
Yet water will add weight...
Not as much as the fans and heatsink
uneven solstice
Lol
You have a whole resevoir/tubes/pumps/rad that is adding a lot.of weight.
Along with the water.
strange flume
Wait you're matching the length of the card to the gpu holder?
Also reo is totally right. All forms of water cooling add weight
strange flume
That looks great already except for the 180 degree power connectors
heady crown
I'm gonna run dual radiator
strange flume
I've been told those are dodgy things to use
uneven solstice
I'm gonna run dual radiator
Then you are adding more weight than taking off.
heady crown
I also want to add in a capture card, but my GPU fans are covering the other PCIe slot
heady crown
Then you are adding more weight than taking off.
Remove weight from the GPU itself, not the case
uneven solstice
Remove weight from the GPU itself, not the case
Ah.
uneven solstice
I wanna put 3 rads in my case.
heady crown
I have the Asus tuff gt501
uneven solstice
But not if I get my sapphire 6950xt back in working order.
heady crown
Also, if I do an upgrade it'll be 2nd or 3rd gen AM5. Which means whole new kit
So I could water cool this and then when it comes time to upgrade, just sell the whole PC and build from scratch
Or gift it to a family member
strange flume
Remove weight from the GPU itself, not the case
Waterblocks are heavier
Well, a lot of the time are, in this case I'm almost certain it will be cos strix
uneven solstice
Strix really be taxing everything
heady crown
I would've bought a strix water cooled 3080 if strix made one that's 360mm
Not a yucky 240
strange flume
240 is more than enough for it though
I can attest to that myself actually
Again, strix cooler is more than enough for it anyway
shrewd juniper
Not as much as the fans and heatsink
Will work out about even
heady crown
@shrewd juniper it'll also free up that pcie slot Im trying to use
heady crown
What's going in that slot
A pcie capture card
spiral dock
Should I switch which side of the radiator my fans are on?
My temps are really good right now but I’ve heard that it’s better to have them pulling the air through the radiator
shrewd juniper
My temps are really good right now but I’ve heard that it’s better to have them ...
It's just easier for maintenance
spiral dock
How is it easier?
shrewd juniper
How is it easier?
Because you can just wipe the radiator for dust which is straight rather than the fans and rad
spiral dock
Oh so to clean it i would have to take fans off?
Do you think its worth taking off and reconfiguring it or should I just leave it as is
shrewd juniper
Oh so to clean it i would have to take fans off?
Eh well not really but to get a good clean in every inch you would
I'd swap orientation but it's up to you
spiral dock
Got it thank you
glad sail
980 pro is a waste of money btw
how
glad sail
I would get a p31 and p41 instead of those drives, for psu I'd get 850 g6 (bette...
p41 is more than the 980 pro
knotty sparrow
You won't use nearly the full bandwidth ever unless you're scrubbing 8k video
knotty sparrow
is it really that bad
I saw something about a ventus, what GPU model is it?
glad sail
the 3080 12gb ventus 3x
glad sail
marsh badge
temps probably will go lower by 5-10c
knotty sparrow
Ok, from what I see the ventus 3x 3080 can get to 60C above ambient. So if you're at 20C ambient you're looking at 80C+ which will affect performance by reducing clock speeds.
It's a bit warmer than I'd personally like but it's totally doable ASSUMING you have a high airflow case, preferably one with direct air to the GPU.
marsh badge
^
which the o11d can do
you can put fans on bottom
that'll blow air straight into the gpu
strange flume
I know a couple people with a ventus (omg I mispelled venuts and now I can't unsee it) and it's definitely not OC capable. No headroom from the get go
Downbin and cheaper cooler
knotty sparrow
Oh yeah overclocking will be a bad time on that. Undervolting is recommended.
strange flume
Would suggest repad and repaste almost immediately, if not K5 pro if you want to guarantee good memory and core contact
Paste mx-4 or something similar
knotty sparrow
In this case I'd even go mx5 for that extra 2 degrees
knotty sparrow
If it is that's news to me
I saw some recalls about that but only some were affected
strange flume
knotty sparrow
Searching Google for "Arctic mx-5 discontinued" I only see the recall and press release, nothing about being discontinued.
strange flume
I might still be wrong I'll find an article
marsh badge
oof
knotty sparrow
They must be working on a new model.
Maybe noctua nt-h1 or -h2
strange flume
Ye both those are good
I've had better luck with NT-H1 but my NT-H2 might be scuffed
Still gotta try the alphacool stuff. My day off today 
knotty sparrow
Thermal grizzly kryonaut (not extreme) is another good option
steel tusk
Great fan chart by the Cultists! (thanks Luke)
marsh badge
cultists network doing good for us all
steel tusk
facts
strange flume
They should advertise this one a bit more openly imo
The psu list is good but this one is too
marsh badge
i just don't like it when people keeps buying sl120's
it's so overpriced for rgb fan that performs meh
strange flume
It's worse than meh lmao
marsh badge
it's probably because of the unique looks
knotty sparrow
Great fan chart by the Cultists! (thanks Luke)
strange flume
spiral dock
Ended up swapping the orientation of the rad fans, thanks for the input @shrewd juniper
shrewd juniper
Np
shrewd juniper
is it really that bad
Yes ventus jus isn't good enough to properly cool gddr6x and there are better models for like 20-30$ more
magic sparrow
Great fan chart by the Cultists! (thanks Luke)
Sad, no Noiseblocker 140mm fans. Also should prolly be split by fan size rather then price. Toughfan better then Noctua at 140mm (So is Noiseblocker which is missing).
mossy minnow
Im using a coolermaster hyper 212 and it isnt showing up on mystic light
its stuck on an ugly cyan color
does anybody know a fix
marsh badge
Im using a coolermaster hyper 212 and it isnt showing up on mystic light
which version did you get?
mossy minnow
I cant tell if it says JRA or JBA but it says something along that line with Rainbow at the end
and then the fan connection is connected to CPU_Fan
gentle saddle
Wondering if anyone can give me some input. Trying to pick out a new cooler. Currently running an older H115i and want to get a new one that's still under warranty. I was going to get a Phanteks Glacier One 280MP, but just found out they don't cover any damage if it leaks from a defect like Corsair does.
I know they rarely leak, but makes me nervous. I just didn't want ICUE software again so was going away from Corsair. Also my fans, rgb, and case are all Phanteks, which is why I wanted that thing. Any suggestions and advice would be greatly appreciated!
sacred wren
Wondering if anyone can give me some input. Trying to pick out a new cooler. Cur...
I would recommend liquid freezer ii
Ek is also good
rotund sable
if you dont care about rgb i'd get a 240/360 evga clc
gentle saddle
I would recommend liquid freezer ii
I looked at the Arctic but wasn't sure on the look of that thing. Thought I heard it was really good.
gentle saddle
if you dont care about rgb i'd get a 240/360 evga clc
I didn't even realize evga made aio's
No, RGB is nothing I care about for the AIO. I have enough of that with the halo rings and the case rgb.
shrewd juniper
if you dont care about rgb i'd get a 240/360 evga clc
280 tho :o
sacred pagoda
280 has the best pricing too
gentle saddle
280 has the best pricing too
Ya, right now I'm just running a 9900K and never had cooling issues. Even if I upgrade I don't think I want an i9-12900k this time around. Just seems like it's not worth the hassle. The power draw on these new ones is stupid.
I'm pretty sure the new i5 is a bit better even than my 9900k 😆
shrewd juniper
Ya, right now I'm just running a 9900K and never had cooling issues. Even if I u...
Oh if you're trying to cool a 9900k then I'd stretch for the 360mm
gentle saddle
Oh if you're trying to cool a 9900k then I'd stretch for the 360mm
My current 280 already runs cold temps with my 9900k though even when I had higher OC on it. Plus if I did get a 360 I'd have to go from push/pull to just push. For the size difference most places when looking into it a while back only showed about a 2 degree difference between a 280 and a 360.
I just can't decide on is brand 😩
Maybe Phanteks wouldn't be so bad. Just always make me nervous having some form of water in the machine if it's not fully covered if it leaks.
shrewd juniper
My current 280 already runs cold temps with my 9900k though even when I had high...
Is your current one failing?
Also push pull hardly makes a difference
gentle saddle
Is your current one failing?
No, but warranty will be up in a few months (almost 5 years old) and I HATE the icue software and the ugly pump. Plus I already have to redo a bunch of stuff in my PC so figured as long as I'm tearing it apart to redo it I might as well replace it with something new.
shrewd juniper
Personally I think that's fine if the pump starts to die then I'd replace, if you don't care about rgb just uninstall icue?
rocky wadi
At what Temps should I worry about my cpu?
For a 5600, mind you
It's been hitting the mid 70s
Still using the stock amd cooler
rocky sonnet
Mid 70s is fine
knotty sparrow
It doesn't even think about throttling until 80-85
rocky wadi
Ah
I've been listening to the fans
I think the rear one is the loudest?
Idk
Can't tell
Slowly might replace the stock fans with better ones
Only brand name fan wise I know is noctua
knotty sparrow
Depends on the case but most you just want to balance the intake and exhaust, so 3 in 3 out. It can help in some cases to do positive pressure, like 3 in 2 out.
rocky wadi
Mine rn is 2 in one out
knotty sparrow
That's probably fine unless you've got really hot components
rocky wadi
Might put my after market fan in the back
To see if that changes anything
Just curious tbh
knotty sparrow
Probably not anything you can measure
rocky wadi
Mainly noise
Noticed the back sounded louder
Not too sure
Is it best for it to be on the back or top?
knotty sparrow
Back
There's all the air current science I could explain for why but I'll just say it's best the air flows as straight through as possible
rocky wadi
Fair enough
Quiet and good cooling fan recommendationsm
?
I think the 4000d uses 120MM fans
If that's the right mesurment
I swapped my fans around and it runs a little hotter in gtav
Like 3 degrees tho
Nvm its like 8 more
rocky wadi
Ah
marsh badge
supports 140 for some but 120 works for any spot
knotty sparrow
Arctic p12 fans are cheap, quiet, and strong pressure
marsh badge
those whining noises are probably something other than the fans
knotty sparrow
Seems cheap
The price is deceptive, look at the chart in the pins. They're the cheapest that are still highly recommended by experts.
knotty sparrow
I unno if my mobo even supports 5 fans
You can daisy chain all 5 of those fans together if you wanted and run them off a single header without coming anywhere close to overloading it
Each one uses 0.11-0.12A at max speed, and the headers are rated at 1A
knotty sparrow
Better than 95% of stock fans easily
If your case cost less than $150 I guarantee they are better
rocky wadi
The front seems to be large enough for 140mm
Or is it better to just go with the $30 5 pack
knotty sparrow
4000D right?
rocky wadi
Yuh
knotty sparrow
That supports 2 140mm fans on the front and top, or 3 120mm. Personally I'd go with the 3 for looks.
rocky wadi
Alright
knotty sparrow
So with a 5 pack you can do 3 front, one top (above CPU), one rear
Having a gap between the intake and exhaust like that will make sure it's not exhausting fresh air before it has a chance to cool things
knotty sparrow
They're not even RGB it looks like, no totally not worth it
knotty sparrow
If you want lights there's the p12 argb
rocky wadi
Nah I don't care for em
knotty sparrow
Me neither. I've only got a few out of convenience.
knotty sparrow
Not bad but not good either
rocky wadi
You think the artics would be better?
knotty sparrow
Easily
rocky wadi
It's probably best then
Especially with the new gpu
Atleast they ain't poop brown
Hope they don't disappoint
knotty sparrow
Noctua makes black fans now lol
They're even working on white
rocky wadi
Bruh
uneven solstice
Me neither. I've only got a few out of convenience.
But why?
knotty sparrow
But why?
I'm not dazzled by pretty lights.
I have RGB on my waterblock because it came on the cheap AIO. I already changed the fans to P12 non RGB.
I have RGB on my memory because this kit happened to be a great deal on confirmed b-die at the time. Even compared to current prices it's a bargain, $110 16gb.
I have some minimal lighting on my GPU because it's the FE and I can't just turn it off and have it stay off.
uneven solstice
I'm not dazzled by pretty lights.
I have RGB on my waterblock because it came on...
Ah ok. Tbh, I've bad my lights off since I put my new fans in last week. Might be because I feel like my pc is ugly atm
I even have my sensor panel disconnected.
knotty sparrow
I'd turn mine off but that's too much hassle. I can't even really see it behind my tinted glass anyway.
I did set the lighting so it changes according to CPU temp though. That's handy.
shrewd juniper
Fancy pants over here
uneven solstice
I'd turn mine off but that's too much hassle. I can't even really see it behind ...
I tried this out for a bit. I didn't really like it.
knotty sparrow
It's useful to me with the hot boi 5800X, I'll hit 90 at the drop of a hat
uneven solstice
Ah
shrewd juniper
The only rgb i have was i have a se 224xt white version (it was cheaper than the others or only one available or something) replaced it with a p12 cuz i mine at night most of the time and you can't turn it off, apart from that 3070 (rip) had logo as rgb but kept off cuz mine at night and theres a lil strip on my mobo which i also keep off
uneven solstice
It's useful to me with the hot boi 5800X, I'll hit 90 at the drop of a hat
So what do you do when it does that?
shrewd juniper
Also non rgb is so much cheaper :)
uneven solstice
The only rgb i have was i have a se 224xt white version (it was cheaper than the...
I.. love waking up to my holy white pc.
knotty sparrow
So what do you do when it does that?
Increase graphics settings so there's a GPU bottleneck instead of CPU 
uneven solstice
Literally. I wake up and look at my pc and behold it's glory.
shrewd juniper
I.. love waking up to my holy white pc.
How do you leave your rgb on overnight
And sleep
uneven solstice
And sleep
I sleep during the day anyways.
Have you never noticed that I am up when you are, but I'm on the other side of the world?
shrewd juniper
Oh yeah
uneven solstice
How do you leave your rgb on overnight
Easy. I just leave PC on. 
shrewd juniper
Easy. I just leave PC on. <:troll:593135331382001703>
slow condor
so if my air cooled system releases a certain amount of heat at 65c and i watercool it instead to 45c, would the heat dispensed into my room be the equivalent as an aircooled system at 85c? how much heat would the water absorb keep from entering room?
shrewd juniper
Uhm I'm not a thermodynamics expert but i think it would be the same as a 45c system, maybe a bit more as it's not even making it near 65c
knotty sparrow
so if my air cooled system releases a certain amount of heat at 65c and i water...
The heat load is the same no matter how it's cooled. A more efficient cooling system just removes the warm air more efficiently. The difference in room temperature is pretty negligible.
strange flume
Yes
rocky wadi
Aigjt
Tbh I always get confused
One time I installed my exhaust wrong and my cpu hit 85°
strange flume
Cage is always to the outlet side of a standard pc fan
left pulsar
Yes, P12 is a great fan overall. Mine never go over 1200rpm in my rig
rocky wadi
What's this part of the cable for
I'm not fan smart
Oh hold on
Daisy chain?
OK it is
My bad
Where should the top fan go?
I assume far back
left pulsar
Sure, but put 1 in the rear spot 1st.