cases-psu-and-cooling

[livid blade]

of course

the i3 is gonna be in an xbox soon

pretty excited

a server psu and a micro atx mohterboard fir tightly in the case so a mini itx and an sfx will fit 100%

gpu further down the road will be... interesting?

[past harbor]

That'll be neat to assemble. yep, for sure. prices have got to recover a bit eventually. well, i bid on a non-K. 6 days left on it. $50ish is worth a try.

[livid blade]

good luck dude

i have to fab a plate to mount the mobo to thats about it

i dont have to 3d print an io plate yet

[past harbor]

Likewise. Oh, not bad. I was just imagining a friend over to play Xbox then we remember there's a PC in it. Also if your 2400 rig is from 2012 ish, there is a chance it would take a 3rd gen btw. I know OEMs can be funky w/ their bios and features though.

[livid blade]

my specific mobo doesnt support 3rd gen

best i can do is i7 2600

i think what im gonna do is just buy some cheap af aluminum and cut it, file the edges and drill holes for standoffs

really easy

[past harbor]

omg a listing w/ cpu pic on the carpet. Static no good! Also:

Yeah, Alum or sheet metal of some sort. 18Gauge or something would be easy to work with. Reminds me I've always wanted to custom build a case, but also out of wood perhaps (as bad as that might sound).

[livid blade]

the vid im watching rn

hahaha

he cncd the plate but i dont have a cnc and never will

[past harbor]

Awesome. Yeah, you know standoffs I thought were just so back stuff of mobo doesnt ground/spark on something metal. Wood/plastic would totally remove that issue

[livid blade]

yeah youre right

ill figure it out

i gave myself a deadline of next month

the only thing not letting this build happen even last year is me

i didnt know how to do it but figured it out in all of 2 hours

[past harbor]

Sometimes we gotta watch some YT vids and/or just get in there & figure stuff out huh. watching the vid now. 2nd screen would be awesome.

[livid blade]

yeah you're right

[simple ruin]

Can someone help me finding a case please

[elfin trout]

What do you need?

Budget and what are you looking for?

[simple ruin]

A case with good airflow

And budget is around 100

[elfin trout]

Td500 mesh p400a p360a 4000d airflow

Neo air

[fierce pivot]

I'd avoid td500 mesh, I've heard a lot of complaints about lack of room in the back

[elfin trout]

It still has enough tbh

Bleach had one for like a year now

[fierce pivot]

Fair, I've heard Jake? I believe giving out about it possibly someone else

[elfin trout]

It's less space than say p500a but it's not impossible to work with and it's definitely still a good case imo

[fierce pivot]

Fair enough

[simple ruin]

So what’s a good case that will fit a b550?

https://www.googleadservices.com/pagead/aclk?sa=L&ai=DChcSEwii5PW04PX0AhXGnIYKHZ76BegYABAPGgJ2dQ&ohost=www.google.com&cid=CAASEuRoa5kdfWEdAL9OkETyuEpy6A&sig=AOD64_0rDuOpiL4w6_vluaNdfI_e3Y865g&ctype=5&q=&ved=2ahUKEwiAqOu04PX0AhVSTjABHSfmAyAQwg96BAgBECs&adurl=

Wb that, that looks good @elfin trout

[fierce pivot]

Nah there's like no airflow and build quality looks bleh, if you want a cheap ish case, cougar mx330 g air/metallic gear neo air

[simple ruin]

https://www.google.com/aclk?sa=L&ai=DChcSEwiL3eCI4fX0AhUEsoYKHZB2AJwYABAJGgJ2dQ&ae=2&sig=AOD64_3OPxu4484dhrBDYsd4hz3AGDT8rw&ctype=5&q=&ved=2ahUKEwif4NmI4fX0AhV-RjABHbi8DYMQwg96BAgBEB0&adurl=

Wb that @fierce pivot

[fierce pivot]

Yeah that's good case, literally in the list that mr1111 gave

[simple ruin]

So should I get it or?

@fierce pivot ?

[fierce pivot]

I would

[fierce pivot]

cx is still on sale for same price id get that instead

[past harbor]

I'm just posting certain crap from the email I just got

[past harbor]

PSU-related, Any input on a UPS? Keep eyeballing a certain pure-sine pfc compat one that happens to be from CyberPower.

[ember hound]

Hi guys :). Looking at getting a Phanteks P500A for myself for Christmas, any good deals out there?

[ocean bane]

What case do you guys recommend for this setup??
EVGA ULTRA HYBRID 3080
NZXT Kraken 73

i am considering;
NZXT 710i
Thermaltake View 71 Snow

[fierce pivot]

phanteks p400a/p500a or corsair 4000d/5000d airflow

[ember hound]

I’ve heard a lot of good stuff about Phanteks

[past harbor]

They are quite popular

[sharp remnant]

in addition to turning my ram into 32gb, i’m considering getting a modular power supply

[ember hound]

What is the difference between the modular, semi and non modular PSU lol

Google helped

Interesting

[past harbor]

Mod is all cables disconnect, semi mod is only mobo & maybe cpu hardwired. Non mod is everything hardwired like 10+ yrs ago. Fully mod is easier to wire up & leave 1 or 2 cables off you don't need.

[past harbor]

Too many options. Even a "bronze" model might be good. 80+ gold/platinum is just slightly more efficient. I have an evga g3 & a newer g+, both 80+ gold 650w.

[trim dove]

damn thats nice deal

[past harbor]

Pato said cx maybe better deal but both are low priced for sure

[fierce pivot]

Modular doesn't mean crap for quality btw it just makes it easier to build with

[noble gull]

It's time, my local shop is finally supplying them

[tepid oasis]

what is a good mid size case? for air cooling?

im assuming it doesnt matter if i use intel or amd for the cpu when it comes to case?

[fierce pivot]

For cheaper options:
Mx330 g air
Metallic gear neo air
For more more expensive option:
Phantsks P400a (digital)
Corsair 4000d airflow
Phanteks p360a

[fierce pivot]

Cpu choice has 0 affect on case

[tepid oasis]

ty Pato im trying to piece togeather two build options one amd and one intel lol

[fierce pivot]

Np. What price range and what for?

[tepid oasis]

um 1600 with wiggle room for monitor and headset. gaming and potentially streaming.

[fierce pivot]

If you're in the us I'd just grab this then and you don't mind open box prebuilts then this is your best bet
https://www.newegg.com/abs-ali475-master/p/N82E16883360070R

[tepid oasis]

appreciate it hun but i recently picked up a gpu so i was going to attempt to build myself

[fierce pivot]

Ahh okay that's the hardest part, might as well build yourself then, if you want you can send me the https://pcpartpicker.com/list list and i can give some feedback if you'd like

[tepid oasis]

oh sure hun, appreciate it

[oak dune]

Anyone know where I can find a different front for my gungnir 110r case? It has the glass in the front and seems limited for an intake and would like to run it more open or replace glass with mesh.

[ember hound]

Alrighty guys, I think imma order a Phanteks P500A, I’ve done all the research and it looks like a great case from the reviews, and I really like it

I’m on the website, should I order a rear fan too or just use the one out of my current case?

[blissful thistle]

How many fans does the p500a come with?

You will want more than one

[ember hound]

3 in the front it looks like

[blissful thistle]

If you want better Temps do 3 outtake two intake

If you want less dust do the opposite

I'm not sure what even does

Probably just meeting in the middle

[ember hound]

Okey

So, I think the fans in the front come with the case lol, I think I wanna load the thing up, 3 on top and 1 out the back

I think a 140 in the rear and 3 120s up top should suffice

okay im also looking into connectivity, im wondering if my B450 Tomahawk Max will handle 7 fans. RBGs too. ive heard it only has 4 connectors, and they dont support rgb, is this true?

[fierce pivot]

The p500a digital comes with 3 rgb fans in front and 1 in back

[ember hound]

Oh it does have 1 in back, nice

[fierce pivot]

You can get a hub/few splitters kf you need

[ember hound]

So, right now it looks like I’m using 1 fan plugin thingy, so I have 3 left besides the pump one for water cooling ig? I’ll still have 3 spots left with the new case because I’m only plugging in the rear? Idk were or if the fronts plug in some where

[fierce pivot]

You'll be plugging in the fronts too

[ember hound]

Are the fronts 3 separate plug ins?

So if they are separate, my board would be “full” per say, I couldn’t hook up anything else fan wise?

I think I should be fine, they are all 4 pin connectors

What would splitters and that stuff do?

Oo, I wonder if I the front 3 fans have a splitter, I wanna be able to add more later if needed

so, it looks like imma need a splitter for the front 3 fans, that way i will have 2 headers left to use. then, would it be possible to run 3 top fans off of a splitter, then plug them into a third header, so i still have 1 left plus the pump header?

[fierce pivot]

They are dc fans so you'll plug them into your motherboard

[ember hound]

okey, can i run them off a splitter so i only have to plug in 1 header?

[worldly dust]

yes

I would plug them into the pump header

[ember hound]

oh okey. pump header isnt being used, so that would work

[worldly dust]

plug pump into cpu fan header

[ember hound]

🤨

[worldly dust]

pc will shut down if pump fails in cpu header

[ember hound]

okay?

im new to this lol

[worldly dust]

if its in the labeled pump header it wont

[ember hound]

stuff gets confusting lol

i guess i can send a few pics?

[worldly dust]

sure

someday a mobo manufacturer will realize the cpu header and the pump header need to cut power if it senses no power draw

I guess I really dont know that you have an aio I misread part of what you said

[ember hound]

Alright so I’ve taken pics of all the fan headers and the pump header

I don’t have an AIO lol

Still air cooling

Damn that bottom pic is trash

[worldly dust]

still good advice just doesnt apply to you lol

its looks fine albeit blury

[ember hound]

So Pump Fan 1, that’s where I’d like plug thr 3 front ones into?

[worldly dust]

yes

[ember hound]

Cool

So, I’m using the Sys Fan 3 for ghe back

[worldly dust]

thats also fine

if you want more control over the front 3 then the back you might switch them but it really doesnt matter as they are just for airflow unless its too noisey

[ember hound]

So on the new case, I’d have the 3 front plugged into the pump header, still using Sys fan 3 for the rear, then, If I wanted 3 top fans, I would run those off a splitter and run that to uh, Sys Fan 1

[worldly dust]

yes

also is the sys fan 2 free?

[ember hound]

And they will work with RGB I think? Yes, that’s free

[worldly dust]

oh well use that instead of the pump header if its not too inconviently placed on the mobo

[ember hound]

Okey doke

[worldly dust]

just lets you control the fan speeds better

[ember hound]

I also have JRGB headers

[worldly dust]

thats for lights

[ember hound]

okey doke

so, i think im good to order, i need a fan header thi

tho

so, would it be worth spending the extra money on the top fans and another splitter now?

[worldly dust]

I dont see why not

I mean you might need a fan hub if you want all the rgb to be in sync and controllable but as far as fans spinning yes it will work

[ember hound]

yeah

fan hub like a controller?

https://www.phanteksusa.com/collections/fans/products/phanteks-ph-f120sk_drgb-120mm-d-rgb-sk-series-fan-1?variant=32150620962871 okay so i wanted to order these for the top, run them off a splitter obviosly lool

[worldly dust]

yes a controller

[ember hound]

https://www.phanteksusa.com/collections/accessories/products/digital-controller-hub like this

[worldly dust]

yes

[ember hound]

okey noicew

https://www.amazon.com/Phobya-3-Way-Splitter-Single-Connection/dp/B004CLFOK4?tag=tens0e-20&dchild=1&keywords=fan splitter&qid=1605700687&sr=8-4&linkId=1e9c47652eceebf8666b6a2bbb8d6fdf&ref_=as_li_ss_tl&geniuslink=true and i think 2 of these, 1 for the 3 front and 1 for the 3 top

i may just look at a 6 way splitter

[worldly dust]

6 seems like too much and I would draw the line at 3 after 3 you need a controller

[ember hound]

okey doke 🙂

[worldly dust]

unless its like 6 little fans 80mm or something

[ember hound]

3 front are 120s and 3 top are gonna be 120s

and the rear one will be a 140 iirc

AIRFLOW

So my fan controller, what does that do, it sounds self explanatory but I have no idea

[worldly dust]

it provides more power than a single header and allows you to sync the rgb of all the fans through software or hardware like a remote

[ember hound]

Oh nice

I think the Phanteks controller would prolly be best

So, I think this means I could plug everything but my rear fan into the controller and still have 3 slots left on the mobo for other fans? Cause the rear I would just put on the motherboard

[worldly dust]

yes

[uncut echo]

Im trying to find a case that can have 3 120mm fans on top and decent airflow. Although i dont know what to pick. Any ideas?

[fierce pivot]

Phanteks P500a (digital) would be my choice, cooler master td500 mesh would also do

[little estuary]

Hi guys for i9 12900kf and 3080 or 3080Ti, would 850W PSU be enough or I should go for 1000W? (Might want 1000W Incase I find a 3090 too?)

[elfin trout]

Since -kf sku, assuming OCing, then 1000w

[little estuary]

Don’t know if I will OC since I’m getting a cheap board like asus prime z690-p

[elfin trout]

1000w isn't much more expensive so it doesn't really hurt

There's a leadex good 1000w for 150$

Amp 1000w for 136$

[little estuary]

I was looking at the EVGA G6… damn the prices just changed

[fierce pivot]

I'd go with phanteks amp 1000w, it's a top tier one and only 135$

[little estuary]

Not sure if I can find that in Canada though

[elfin trout]

https://www.newegg.ca/phanteks-amp-ph-p1000g-1000w/p/N82E16817987012

[little estuary]

Is phanteks better than the evga?

[past harbor]

Certain evga models are great, but pato usually has good suggestions.👍

[elfin trout]

Eh, they are close enough

They're actually the same platform

Both seasonic focus based

[past harbor]

That's funny.

[elfin trout]

G6 is supposed to have made some small improvements upon it but should be close enough

[elfin trout]

Just as a reminder, , brands make both good and bad models, amp and G6 are both good though

[little estuary]

I always liked seasonic my 8 year old pc is seasonic

[elfin trout]

G6 might be one of the first EVGA PSUs that's seasonic based

Most of the rest of them is CWT, probably the best EVGA PSU, G2, is CWT based

[little estuary]

So 1000W either evga g6/phanteks amp/ or seasonic focus? I’ll check which is cheapest on Boxing Day lol

[fierce pivot]

seasonic make some great power supplies but also some trash ones so honestly just get the cheapest A tier one imho

[little estuary]

Is there a list of what is A tier?

[wanton briar]

https://cultists.network/140/psu-tier-list/
https://bit.ly/PSUComparisonList

[elfin trout]

comparison list is just sad tbh

main thing is

2+ years ago

So you won't see A-GF or P-GM or G6 etc

[wanton briar]

Oops, linked wrong thing

Oh nvm

[elfin trout]

the info it does have is decent but well

lots of things missing

like want to know what caps its using?

or like what the OCP trigger point is set to?

:P

[worn plover]

what's a reliable 750w psu fully modular?

[dawn matrix]

Phanteks amp 750

[fierce pivot]

If you're in the US atm I can't recommend anything other than bitfenix formula 750w because the price is fantastic at 60$ and it's a top tier unit

[tacit tide]

if i just got a seasonic focus GX 750 will it work with a gpu with 2 12 pins? (the adapter that come with them have 4 six pins...)

[fierce pivot]

2 12 pin GPUs aren't a thing... Can you send a picture

[wanton briar]

Nvidia founders edition 3000 series cards only have a single 12 pin

[tacit tide]

it's a 8 pin lol

my ass is dumb

[fierce pivot]

How do you mistake 1 8 pin for 2 12...........

[tacit tide]

2 8 pins

it came w adapters so i assumed

[fierce pivot]

Adapters for what tho?

[wanton briar]

2 8 pin to single 12 pin

[fierce pivot]

Maybe?

[wanton briar]

That is the adapter that founders edition cards come with

[fierce pivot]

Sounded like they were saying 2 8 pins went into gpu naturally but also came with adapter? Maybe I'm misunderstanding

[worn plover]

Why

[fierce pivot]

I just said, it's a fantastic price and a great power supply?

[worn plover]

why if i am in the US atm

[fierce pivot]

If you are in the us, atm bitfenix........

Like if you live in the us

[worn plover]

nvm ok i get it sorry i was confused thank you

[fierce pivot]

No problem, if you're not in the us let me know what country and I'd give a different recommendation

[worn plover]

nope im in Washington

in the us

[fierce pivot]

Yeah then bitfenix formula 750w is the way to go

[fair plume]

Hey I'm looking for Gpu and psu cables that light up white

any suggestions

please tag me

[little estuary]

If im looking for Seasonic 1000W is this the right model i should be looking for? https://www.newegg.ca/seasonic-focus-plus-gold-ssr-1000fx-1000w/p/N82E16817151210?Description=seasonic&cm_re=seasonic-_-17-151-210-_-Product

My other choice is EVGA G6 1000W

Theres Prime, thers Platinum... not sure which one :/

[fierce pivot]

Lian li strimmers

[fierce pivot]

I'd go with this instead https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/product/jRvdnQ/corsair-rmx-2021-1000-w-80-gold-certified-fully-modular-atx-power-supply-cp-9020201-na

[little estuary]

How come Corsair? is there a white version of this?

[fair plume]

Would you mind sending me a link to one please? If you wouldn’t mind

[fierce pivot]

just as good and cheaper

[fierce pivot]

Search em on Amazon or something

[fair plume]

Ok

Thank you

[little estuary]

Oh really, i thought Seasonic/EVGA is better for PSU, didn't know about Corsair for PSU... but it does have 10 year warranty like the others

[wanton briar]

They are have "good" models of PSUs but it's about which is the best for the current price

Price to performance is a very important factor since there are so many models that are great just different prices

[fierce pivot]

Model is more important brand means little to nothing

[little estuary]

hmm ok i understand yeah probably cuz last time i built a pc was 8 years ago im always been fixated on brands i guess they all have improved by now?

The descriptions all show similar components and materials

[fierce pivot]

Basically all brands make some bad some good and some mediocre items tbh

[little estuary]

Thanks for sharing Pato, nice find i think this is cheapest with that $30 off coupon, $189 compared to EVGA G6 and Seasonic Focus lowest for those were $229 i believe during black friday and recent sales...

[fierce pivot]

No problem happy to help

[little estuary]

What do you guys think about the new Lian Li O11 Evo case vs the original O11 White? (I really like the all white of it compared to the white original O11 cuz it has some stainless looking steel at the front?

[elfin trout]

confirmed GN likes td500 mesh
https://youtu.be/f6LM_gNdG9c?t=122

[dawn matrix]

not the first time they've mentioned it lol

[elfin trout]

yeye just like pointing it out from time to time

I feel like td500 mesh doesn't get enough recognition for what it can do

[wanton briar]

I just think it's ugly personally

[dawn matrix]

^

hate the side panel

[tacit tide]

2 8 pins coming from the gpu, to 4 6 pins...

what is up with zotac, but yes, you were correct

[fierce pivot]

ive never heard if that

[plucky turtle]

if you take off the front panel of a pc how much will it cool the pc

[wanton briar]

Depends on the case

[past harbor]

From not much if already mesh, to tons if it was a solid front

[blissful thistle]

so what do i do if a psu fan is off balance

do EVGA psus come with a warranty>

[fierce pivot]

all psus come with a warranty

what do you mean by off balance>

[blissful thistle]

its hard to explain

someone else said thats what the noise could be

and even if it isnt that theres still an issue with it that there shouldnt be

so id rather warrantee it than go through this headache

[wanton briar]

Coil whine most likely

[blissful thistle]

nah it sounds almost like its hitting smthn

but theres nothing in the way

ig it could be like a screw or wire inside the psu itself

but its still an issue with the psu itself

its also on and off

it just happened for like 2 minutes for the first time in like 2 days

actually its a different noise rn

its like the fan is occilating almost?

if that makes sense?

[blissful thistle]

@fierce pivot

i guess i could try switching the fans, if thats even a thing, but i think that would void warranty

[hollow gale]

do not open a PSU unless you know exactly what you are doing. The capacitors in there store enough power to stop your heart.

[blissful thistle]

eh, i dont need that

[fierce pivot]

https://tenor.com/view/elmo-shrug-不造-i-dont-know-gif-5094560

[blissful thistle]

ok so i definitely know what the issue is

the fan is 100% off balance

i tested it stupidly

so that means either a screw is loose, like mine, or the fan was just cut wrong?

maybe?

[fierce pivot]

just contact the pus manufacter imo wouldnt go near them

[blissful thistle]

yeah its an evga bbq

[past harbor]

https://tenor.com/view/world-domination-the-one-elmo-flames-elmo-fire-gif-16138442

hope it's actually bq instead of bbq, but still chuckled

[blissful thistle]

Bruh

It's just super bad coil whine

Like

Awful coil whine

@past harbor

i wonder if evga warranties for coil whine

my mom threw out the box

for the power supply

[past harbor]

I know companies have in the past if it was super bad/loud. My gtx 260 was loud but not the evga 970 or this asus so idk

[blissful thistle]

maybe its not, im so confused

is there any way to control a psu fan?

it runs at full speed i believe most of the time

which im guessing means the psu just runs that hot

which probably isnt good

[past harbor]

oh my bad, I've only had coil whine w/ a that GPU, not any PSU's I think. Doesn't hurt to try RMA if you can. Many psus in the last 3-5 years have a pretty smart fan curve and also "eco" button for quieter fan(0 rpm at idle).

[blissful thistle]

my mom threw out the box and i dont have a way of seeing serial number without taking the psu out

which i dont feel like doing unless im about to RMA, which id rather wait till i buy a laptop so i have smthn to use

apparently it is a very common issue with this psu

i dont feel like rmaing it just to have the same issue

at this point i might just buy a higher tier evga psu and just swap the unit itself

so i dont have to recable manage

that would work right?

as long as its the same type

semi modular i believe

[past harbor]

When it comes to semi or full mod psu, some have specific cables. I've heard people sometimes say also not use extensions or something straight into a psu.

[blissful thistle]

evga does not seem to have many price friendly non bronze semi modular psus

apparently the only semi modular gold rated psu they have is the GQ

any opinions on it?

[past harbor]

Certain bronze semi mods are really good I've heard. Some of the techs know a few. There's deals once in a while like $50 for a 550w something something.

[blissful thistle]

ima go with 650 as my minimum

my system probably peaks at 450

but id rather be safe, and leave room for a bit of an upgrade path if need be

@round pike any opinions on the GQ?

[past harbor]

My current is G3, newer spare is a G+. Both 650w and 1 was $50 I kid you not - $70 now and currently has the 3 payment plan, $23/mo
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0797CDK7J

[blissful thistle]

i want to get a semi modular tho so i dont have to recable manage

[past harbor]

That's fully mod, might be as good or better deals currently though

[round pike]

As in you want to reuse the cables that are already in your case?

[past harbor]

was planning that....

[blissful thistle]

yes, same brand and same form factor

evga bbq to GQ

if the GQ is good

if not, ill have to recable manage i guess

[round pike]

You'll want to double check every connector

[past harbor]

semi mod would mean having to still take off/out the mobo cable

[blissful thistle]

yeah ik

[round pike]

How much and what wattage?

[blissful thistle]

either 650 or 750

90 and 100 respectively

[round pike]

Lemme check what the market is like rn

Usually I'd say hard pass for that price and that model

[blissful thistle]

what tier is the GQ?

[round pike]

Low end

[past harbor]

Did I wrongly presume USA?

[blissful thistle]

no

[round pike]

What components will you be using it with? Still the 3600 and 3060ti, or is this a different/upgraded system?

[blissful thistle]

same system

the bbq is having issues

[round pike]

Gotcha

[blissful thistle]

apparently common ones for this model

god i wish i never bought this

paid nearly 3x msrp because i trusted a local pc shop

[round pike]

oof

[blissful thistle]

a plat would be fine too, if theres any semis

if not i guess im recable managing

[round pike]

Aight, I'd go with not the GQ

[past harbor]

Any idea or say on which of these 3 evga are the best? Of course the G3 "only" has a 7 yr warranty

[round pike]

Dang it, the core GM just sold out 🤣

[blissful thistle]

any good semi modular by evga?

or are they all bad

[round pike]

Good evga PSUs are usually not the best bang for the buck

[blissful thistle]

price doesnt matter as long as it isnt over like 150

im a kid with a job so i dont really have anything super important to pay for

[round pike]

I'm also not too confident in them all using the same pin out on their connectors. EVGA has a few PSUs from other companies

[past harbor]

Is GQ vs BQ really any better besides the slightly high effiency?

[round pike]

Yes

[blissful thistle]

bob

[round pike]

Non of those are particularly good models, G3 is probably better but it's also out classed by cheaper models from other companies

[blissful thistle]

how much of cable managing is psu cables

[round pike]

Not too bad, what case do you have?

Up to a few minutes ago, there was this option:
https://www.newegg.com/seasonic-core-series-core-gm-500-500w/p/N82E16817151242
sold out while we were talking though

[blissful thistle]

coolermaster n400

that i also paid for

[round pike]

Okay, that shouldn't be too bad to swap the cables then

For a mid tier, there's a 650W RMx available for $65 after a mail in rebate:
https://www.newegg.com/corsair-rmx-series-rm650x-2018-cp-9020178-na-650w/p/N82E16817139232

[blissful thistle]

whats a mail in rebate outta curiosity? ive not done shopping much :p

i know stupid question

[round pike]

For a good high end PSU, 750W focus gm for $84
https://www.bestbuy.com/site/seasonic-focus-gm-750-750w-80-gold-psu-semi-modular-fits-all-atx-systems-fan-control-in-silent-cooling-mode-7-yr-warranty-black/6414270.p
650W AG-F for $90 https://www.amazon.com/dp/B08PDV45F8

[mild roost]

90 for 650w ag-f

oof

[round pike]

Basically you cut the proof of purchase off of your packaging and mail it to the company, they then mail back a pre-paid card

[round pike]

That's pretty normal for non-sale price

[mild roost]

im just used to sale price

[blissful thistle]

is there a way to control a psu fan?

[round pike]

Depends on the model

[blissful thistle]

on the bbq

i know it has an eco mode

is that auto or?

[round pike]

Some have switches that let you toggle a silent mode on and off

In general though, a higher efficiency PSU will have a quieter fan

[past harbor]

corsair rmx, aka silent under 260w.

[round pike]

Kinda

[blissful thistle]

does the bq have a switch?

cuz i cant game with this thing

[blissful thistle]

oh also

newegg has banned any account when i try to buy from them

idk if they dont like my card or what

happened 3 times now

so i cant buy from them

[round pike]

Dang

[past harbor]

oh boy. guest checkout from another pc somewhere using a different card, idk.

[blissful thistle]

they ban my emails when i try guest checkout

[round pike]

Corsair RM series has a rep for using lower quality coils, so there's usually still some noise

[blissful thistle]

i can check the exact message later

[round pike]

So the RMx is probably out, I'll see if any other retailers have the MIR deal

$66 from amazon, no MIR needed https://www.amazon.com/dp/B079H6111J

[blissful thistle]

thanks

ill probably order it tommorow

[blissful thistle]

ordered

[blissful thistle]

is there anything i should know or be cautious about when putting the new psu in?

other than unplugging it obviously

[round pike]

Just normal precautions

[blissful thistle]

this gonna be my first time

paid someone to build my pc last time bc it was too overwhelming for me

im not good at doing one thing at a time

[marble girder]

Good 1200 watt PSU with a super long warranty so I never have to buy another PSU again?

Tired of needing more wattage as things become nuclear reactors

[fierce pivot]

I feel 1000w would cover you unless you never plan on buying the 80 ti/90 tier

[marble girder]

What if next gen 70 tier has a 350 watt power draw or some nonsense like that

The 3070 comes close to a 2080ti in power draw and I see Nvidia doing that for a few generations until the 90 tier is like 600 wats

[fierce pivot]

Then an 850w will still be plenty

[marble girder]

I want a 10 year PSU and want to "future proof" the wattage

[fierce pivot]

I mean okay but 1000w psus are way plenty imo

And way cheaper

[fierce pivot]

Id grab the g2 especially if you don't mind rebates
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/8LMFf7/evga-power-supply-120g21300xr
But I'd just get this
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/d7dxFT/antec-high-current-gamer-extreme-1000w-80-gold-certified-fully-modular-atx-power-supply-hcg1000-extreme -dont know what antecs warranty is like but heres a 1000w alternative
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/QX3gXL/phanteks-amp-1000-w-80-gold-certified-fully-modular-atx-power-supply-ph-p1000g

[marble girder]

That's not too bad of a price either

I'll probably do 1000 watts honestly and just pray it's enough

[blissful thistle]

Glad I ordered last night, price went up 15$, tysm again

[round pike]

Np

[blissful thistle]

called the place i bought this psu from

theyre going to fix it after i get mine

idk why im going to bother but why not

[marble nimbus]

Is a 750 enough for 3060 ti and 9700k?

[fierce pivot]

Yeah

[blissful thistle]

Is there any speculation of next gen power usage?

Gpus that is

[fierce pivot]

Not that ik of, ik 3090 ti is supposed to be 450w

[blissful thistle]

Just thinking of upgradability in the future, I think I shoulda gone with the 750w rmx

[past harbor]

Doubt it's much higher. 20 series had decent wattage. Pretty crazy some of the 30 series are fully double my 1080 power, & that's max at +90 core w/ 120% PL. (240w)

[daring kettle]

is fully modular really worth it

or just get semi modular

[elfin trout]

That's all on you, as long as its a good PSU, they'd perform the same, and semi-mod or even non-mod isn't too hard to work with as long as your case has a decent amount of room for cable management.

[fierce pivot]

Semi mod is basically a fully modular because you'll need the cpu and 24 pin connectors anyway

[cloud current]

Hey is the asus b550-fully compatible with a Corsair 4000d air flow?

Because on pcpp it says that the b550-a does not have a usb c connector

[weary vine]

Which asus b550

Theres many

And even if it doesnt have a usb c header, only the front usb c port wont work

Everything else will

[blissful thistle]

Hey sorry for the ping, do I want the fan on the psu facing up or down?

[round pike]

Whichever way is pointing out

[past harbor]

Rip psu in the top being common because then gpu could beamed by 1 or 2 bottom case fans

[blissful thistle]

Hey

@round pike important question about this cable, which side goes in the psu and which into the mobo?

Sorry for all the pins

Nvm I figured it out, I'm just stupid

Have everything in but that one cable

Can't get it to go all the way in on either side

The pins match up and all

Just can't get it to go in

POG

got it working

and didnt even break anything

hey so uhh

my gpu temps are MUCH lower than they were before

is that smthn that a better psu can do?

like

7c on core difference while mining

[rich briar]

Why not the P400A for half the price?

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07TTDW9KV/ @ember hound

[ember hound]

I like the dual system thing, the RGB at the bottom too is nice,

Just something about the 500A I like

[rich briar]

Fair enough

[ember hound]

It’s a bit newer, I could fit a radiator in the top if I ever water cooled, just something is telling me go 500A

I was also considering the 600S but it doesn’t seem as airflow focused being a hybrid

But I liked the fact It was a hybrid too,

[paper sorrel]

I'm planning to get an actual GPU, like a Rx 6X00XT (7 or 8, if i manage to snag one) but my PSU came stock with my Stylos STPGAC4B Black case, what's a good recomendation for a 650+w PSU? my CPU is the Ryzen 5 5600X

[past harbor]

Seasonic Focus is 1 you can lookup. Something less than 5 yr warranty, probably stay away.

[fierce pivot]

Dual system?

[fierce pivot]

What country?

[paper sorrel]

I live in Mx but i have a PO box in the US

[fierce pivot]

Mexico?

[paper sorrel]

yes

It's way cheaper to get an item directly from the us than to get an imported one

[fierce pivot]

Alright then bitfenix formula 750w on Amazon is like 60$ and a great power supply

[paper sorrel]

Thanks ❤️

Prices for amazon.mx are 250 USD hahaha

[fierce pivot]

No prob

[fierce pivot]

Oof

[paper sorrel]

Yeah, imported stuff is SUPER expensive here in MX, i'm better off buying a PO box and saving those import costs and rise in pricings

[past harbor]

You just run over to your u.sps box? That's smart think

[paper sorrel]

It's a separate PO box where i don't need any credentials to use

[past harbor]

Same, just my key. 🤘 (of course I have a normal usps box)

[paper sorrel]

Living outside the US is such a restriction for anything that i want to buy from there hahaha have to jump tons of hoops

[little estuary]

Does anyone know where to get those white Modular PSU cables that connect to the GPU/Mobo in white? is that a separate purchase? I want to do a white build, what do you guys recommend in Canada?

[elfin trout]

Cable extensions?

[little estuary]

Any links?

[past harbor]

On amazon, asiahorse, cable mod. Couple others I don't recall

[deft hull]

weird way to ask about measurements, but anyone know of a sfx case that is <=4U high and about half a rack big

[scenic lance]

Phanteks Eclipse P400A my rgb control buttons aint working

the red color is on but it wont let me switch through colors can someone help?

nvm it works now suddenly when i ask for help

[scenic lance]

BWAHAHAHA felt

[little estuary]

Aw I missed the Lian Li O11 EVO preorder for the US release… wonder when it will become available in Canada, does it become available shortly after? I’m still holding onto to my O11 white dynamic was about to return it back to Newegg

[mild roost]

the evo isn't that worth it to worry about imo

[little estuary]

When I saw it I really like the snow white all version vs. the O11 dynamic white, and if im building a new pc, i want to get the newest thing as well

[fierce pivot]

Cases are one of those things where they last ages so even if it didn't come out this year, there are plenty of older cases that would be just as good if not better

[ember hound]

Happy news I got myself a P500A

Shall arrive sometime in February

[ember hound]

Yeah I’m not in any hurry, it’s only a few weeks

[past harbor]

Ok I think I'm gonna keep my complete current rig as a spare PC, meaning buying a new case. I thought about the "cube" CM HAF evo something but idk. For a normal mid tower I was eyeing a P400A or similar.

[marble girder]

Could someone find me a good 750+ watt PSU at best buy (so I can see if I can pick up in store today) for around $100-120

[fierce pivot]

Why best buy :( Amazon has an a tier 750 for 60$

[blissful thistle]

wat

bruh

[marble girder]

So I can do it asap

[fierce pivot]

Bitfenix formula 750w

[fierce pivot]

Prime shipping would still be cheaper lol

[blissful thistle]

just paid 70 after tax for a 650rmx

[marble girder]

My CPU can pull almost 200 watts alone

Your 3600 pulls like 65 lol

[blissful thistle]

not what im saying

im saying i missed the a tier for less

and its 750

[marble girder]

Ah

[elfin trout]

Best buy doesn't have many things and the prices are crap so

The best you can do is prob like cx

[marble girder]

I'd be willing to get Amazon then

$100 budget with the best PSU I can get that could realistically handle 12600k overclocked and a 3070

[elfin trout]

A-GF prob for best, formula gold for a good deal

[marble girder]

Can I have link? About to start driving

[elfin trout]

Actually Revo df better deal atm than a-gf
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07P6SJJN6

Formula gold
https://www.amazon.com/BitFenix-Formula-Standard-BF-750G-BP-FM750ULAG-7R/dp/B07771GXGZ/

[fierce pivot]

Then bitfenix formula 750w

[marble girder]

Is the 850 watt model good too?

May just do that

[fierce pivot]

if going 850w might as well just got revolution d.f yeah but 60$ for bitfenix formula is way better deal

[marble girder]

Is bitfenix a good brand? I've literally never heard of them before

Bitfenix is going to take 2 weeks nvm
It's not prime shipped

Bought the 850 watt df, thanks guys

[fierce pivot]

yeah but the formula is an a tier

[fierce pivot]

oof :/

[marble girder]

It's for RMA reasons

[fierce pivot]

wdym?

[marble girder]

If something wrong with it

It's the same reason I am hesitant to buy things from some companies like msi

Their rma process is terrible

[past harbor]

What about the plat Seasonic I posted in tech deals, Pato?

[fierce pivot]

meh

cant beat 60$ for bitfenix formula

[past harbor]

Tbh knock on wood I can't recall when I had to rma something. Decent luck, my mobo is fine even though mailman sort of plopped it down a bit rough

[deft hull]

I think asking about brands as something to stay away from is generally useful, less so asking if a brand is good

[fierce pivot]

yeah theres no brands you should flat out avoid

[deft hull]

Personally I find it unusual that brands that have almost always been bad will improve but good brands can definitely go bad

[weak barn]

Hello! I'm changing my psu and the thing is originally I had an 8pin connector for my cpu but now I only have a 4+4 pin connector and it doesn't match with my 8pin socket, thing is my mobo has both an 8pin and 4pin socket and was wondering if I could plug just the 4pin and still run

[fierce pivot]

You'll be able to fit the 4+4 pin in

[weak barn]

Even if the 4+4 isn't able to connect to each other?

It's fairly confusing

[fierce pivot]

You'll probs just have to jam them in together

[weak barn]

Ah

Thank you kind person

And happy holidays

[fierce pivot]

Np happy holidays

[scenic lance]

what would be the difference between a platinum and a gold rated psu

[sand atlas]

That's just an efficiency rating. It's like 92% for gold and 95% platinum or something.
It has nothing to do with overall quality.

[scenic lance]

ah

okay thank you :D

[agile lily]

Anyone else have the lian li lancool 2? If so how are you liking it / disliking it?

[coral bear]

Base Lancool 2 is meh, the Mesh versions are the only ones people should get. Easy access to the internals is nice when an rgb cable comes undone, though the fact that the glass windows can't be opened without first opening the shroud windows first is a bit annoying, especially since you have to open it by reaching and grabbing the back of that shroud cover to open it. It is fairly easy to build in, the only real problems I had were with the psu cables because the shroud limits hand space and there is a hard drive cage down there (which you can move if you still have an HDD, but jamming in those cables is still a bit annoying). The cable covers for the back section are fine, but they can be a bit hard to screw back on sometimes though, as depending on how you lay out the cables you mave have to force the cover into position before screwing it in

[past harbor]

phanteks P300 vs P360 vs P400? $60 for the latter one seems like a good value for me, but I'm not against an extra $20-30 for a better/easier case. Also does anyone know of a cable extension set that has 2 eps cables? Thanks.

[agile lily]

completely agree, i got the base one simply because i liked the look of it better than the mesh version. Needing to open the shroud panels first is obnoxious but overall I had a fun time building it in. Much better than the 50 dollar case which was micro atx that I got for my first pc

The HDD cage not being able to be removed is annoying as hell but kinda worked in my favor as it let me hide some cables and give something for my AIO's pump to rest on and look pretty nice

[coral bear]

Yeah, I have some cables running through the HDD cage too, but I still use a hard drive, so it is a bit messy looking

I've also seen people say a 280mm can fit on the top, so Imma need to try it myself in the future

[fierce pivot]

P360a has extra fan space at top and aio top mount, compact atx, only 2 front fans, p400a 3 fan no top aio mount

[agile lily]

Ive got my 280 on the front, works pretty well for me

Posted a pic in #build-pics

[past harbor]

oh the non-A p400 has a solid front panel, part of why it's on sale.

[past harbor]

Cool, ty. Hard to wrong w/ either if not using an aio then. Pretty soon ram/ssd/case/cpu is on route. Might all be from NE this time too lol.

[sterile aspen]

Hi uh can I ask questions here

[agile lily]

Mhm

[paper sorrel]

Is there any special consideration i should take when changing a PSU? I'd be working on top of a wooden desk with metal (aluminum i believe) legs and no carpet, i don't have one of those static bracelet things, should i work barefoot or would that be worse?

I know the basics of disconnecting all cables and peripherals, then disconnecting all the cables from inside the pc

[fierce pivot]

Na you're fine

[paper sorrel]

Thanks, so there's no "priming" of anything or a special order to MB then GPU then X?

[weary vine]

Nop

[mild roost]

You can even do it bare foot on a carpet

[sand atlas]

I work with socks on carpet all the time, with no static band. I haven't killed anything yet.

[surreal magnet]

just dont aggressively rub your feet on the carpet

plus components are designed to be hard to kill with static

[fierce pivot]

what if you got fluffy socks tho, it would be illegal no to 😤

[surreal magnet]

if i had fluffy socks i would have other things to worry about

[past harbor]

1 thing I do is always grab a metal part of case for a split second before grabbing a component to install, just in case I had static. 👍

Welp, ordered the modest size p400A. I actually wanted the cm haf evo cube but not for $120+.

[blissful thistle]

i did it on a bed lmao

[daring kettle]

i built mine on wooden table with socks on carpet

but the chance of killing ur psu with static is so low

its just filler content all these people use in their "Step by Step" guides

[rigid orbit]

anyone know the difference between multirail and single psus?

[elfin trout]

instead of a single 12v rail, multi rail psus have multiple

doesn't matter much for most cases, just that protections tend to be better on higher wattage multi-rail units

[rigid orbit]

ah

[elfin trout]

say you have a 1600w PSU, and for some reason, your GPU is having an issue, and is drawing 1000w instead of 500w, single rail PSU sees say 1200w on the 12v rail, well below OCP tripping point, and does nothing, but multi-rail unit might see 2 different rails hitting 500w when they're designed to trip at say 400w, so the multi-rail unit would shut off and protect itself.

[rigid orbit]

aah that makes sense

[scenic lance]

2014 o.o

[hollow gale]

850w is plenty even by todays standards

[scenic lance]

fr

i got a 850 in mine but now very little headroom for oc tho

[hollow gale]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MxT2aN0sG6U&t=2301s

5950x and 6800XT running on 650W

[scenic lance]

i watched this one lol

[hollow gale]

yeah, if you talking OC, thats a different story 😅

[scenic lance]

watching this one rn

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yJt7u6GSjpk

dunno y but i am

[hollow gale]

thats YouTube. so much content

[fierce pivot]

3080 tis and 3090s are fine on a good 850w btw

[scenic lance]

no oc headroom tho

i have my current 6900XT on a 850watt psu but I cant do any major oc

[fierce pivot]

6900xt has less power spikes than 3000 series you'd be fine ocing

[scenic lance]

ive tried, just cant go as high as id like

[mild roost]

bitwit's vids made me dizzy

like it's weird

i can't stand the cam wobble lol

[vernal leaf]

CAN I PUY MY COMPUTER IN CERAL BOX?

[marble girder]

I forgot I needed to reroute when I got a new PSU

At least this time it's modular

[marble girder]

This PSU weighs more than my gaming laptop what the hecc

6.6 pounds for the box

[marble girder]

I actually hate this PSU

It's permanently stuck into my case now due to the fact it has screws on the top near the fans that stick up and the bequiet case making it so you slide the PSU in

Took me 10 minutes to get it in, even harder to get it out

The screws catch on the case

[daring kettle]

evga supernova or corsair rm

[sand atlas]

Which supernova? There's like 10
RM is A tier at least, but only a few supernovae are.

[sand atlas]

GA is low B tier

[daring kettle]

@sand atlas

[sand atlas]

RM is the better of the two, being A tier vs the supernova GA being low B.

[daring kettle]

vs the RM 750 @sand atlas

[sand atlas]

GT is also low B tier, so unless you need the extra power for something the RM is better quality still

[knotty moat]

GT series of EVGA Supernova are the A tier versions

[daring kettle]

? @sand atlas

is this true?

[mild roost]

no

I checked

The GT is low b tier

[sand atlas]

Not on the list I'm looking at. G6 is A tier, and G2, G3, P2, P6, and T2 are low A

[mild roost]

^

[daring kettle]

what list u guys using?

[sand atlas]

https://cultists.network/140/psu-tier-list/

Updated version of the list on LTT forum from the same people

It's pinned also

[glossy anvil]

is replacing an office pc psu with a gaming psu risky?

should not have say gaming psu lmao

[glossy anvil]

HP elitedesk 800 G3

[mild roost]

nah

that thing won't fit an atx psu anyway

iirc

[glossy anvil]

alr

[glossy anvil]

can it fit Corsair SF600 Platinum

[mild roost]

i honestly dunno

[glossy anvil]

alr

[sand atlas]

HP and Dell especially like to use proprietary parts, so you're forced to buy oem or adapters

[sand atlas]

Judging by that form factor I'd say that's 100% only going to fit an oem power supply

[hollow gale]

yup.

[inner stratus]

Hey, I have an ABS PC from Newegg with the Rosewill case. If anyone has the same case, what HDD/SSD caddy do you recommend? Preferably a dual caddy so I can store two in one slot?

[hollow gale]

which case model?

[inner stratus]

D100 I believe

[hollow gale]

https://www.rosewill.com/download/spectra_d100_usermanual_a-pdf/?wpdmdl=57542&ind=1602844893479

manual shows that the case comes with 2 caddies for the basement and mounting points for the interior. what caddy are you asking about?

[winter elbow]

hey guys, what case looks/is better

this https://www.amazon.ca/gp/product/B09138FCV5/ref=ewc_pr_img_2?smid=AAZRLVTNON75Z&psc=1 or this https://www.amazon.ca/gp/product/B07MFR1VDN/ref=ewc_pr_img_1?smid=A3DWYIK6Y9EEQB&psc=1

[elfin trout]

both are kinda bad looking and price really sucks

Unless you really like the chunky look

[inner stratus]

So I do see two plastic flimsy caddies, but my hdd and ssd is just hanging there in one cadddy, not secure. Do I need screws? Or some sort of specific caddy to hold them together tight in place?

btw both my drives are 2.5"

[sand atlas]

The case should come with all the screws you need

[inner stratus]

Unfortunately I lost them. Do you know where to get replacements?

[slow forum]

i have an atnec psu neo eco 80+bronze is it good?

[mild roost]

it's

meh

[sand atlas]

Contact rosewill

[hollow gale]

have had one for over 5 years. no issues

[hollow gale]

the 680X is a bad case, do not buy.

[paper sorrel]

@fierce pivot Thanks for your help back then, now i have my new PSU and installed my new Graphics card ❤️ ready for some Monster Hunter ICE

[fierce pivot]

np

[orchid ether]

any other cases besides O11 d evo that can be on left side of desk configuration?

[fierce pivot]

There's a few more they're usually all inverted mount tho

[vocal talon]

been out of the sffpc community a while and planning to downsize in a bit, is there any (new) better case than nr200p that isn't 200+? Last time i was looking there were only a few cheaper options

oh yeah and ssupd

[fierce pivot]

Ssupd and I'd personally to nr200 and save the money on the nr200p, the p model just includes a glass panel as well as mesh, ssupd meshilicious is great imo. there is also one i can't remember the name but it's mentioned in this vid,
https://youtu.be/5mUwDozIcbM

[vocal talon]

forgot there was a non p nr200 lol

wouldn't be using glass so fine with just the mesh panel, if it goes on sale normally for 80 similar to right now that'd be a nice deal

[mild roost]

the damn heatsinks on the itx mobos

yikes

basically defeats the point of itx lol

[sand atlas]

The only point of an itx board for me would be for memory overclocking. 2 slots, no daisy chain. Max performance.

Unless I felt like using the vesa mount on my tv for a media pc

[hollow gale]

nr200p max is what you want. its an updated nr200p with a 850w psu, 280mm aio and PCIe gen4 riser

[fierce pivot]

What price is it tho? And wouldn't using the riser mean you need an lp cooler then and block the chance of an aio in that case?

[hollow gale]

its priced quite competitively considering the accessories

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lltz-heW2LU

its a REALLY good case

[fierce pivot]

Optimum tech really is the itx channel

[hollow gale]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sVkmtg8Bexo

KitGuruTech reckons its the best case of 2021 too

[fierce pivot]

350$ tho is steep imo
850w sfx ~150
Nr200 ~80
240mm cm aio 70$
300$

If you do yourself
850w ~150
Nr200 80
Arctic 280mm 110$
340$
10$ less and way better aio

And the psu is 115 atm actually

[hollow gale]

Youre forgetting the PCIe 4 riser

But I hear you

its not totally out of whack though.

[fierce pivot]

Oh right the riser yeah

Well yeah i kinda forgot about it because you don't need it lol

[hollow gale]

I just like the fact that its a nice little package that handles all the tricky bits about ITX.

[fierce pivot]

Fair

[dusky prism]

hey!

can anyone recommend me a nice airflow case with rgb fans thats on mercadolibre (basically like south american amazon)?

cheaper the better, corsair is preferred

[fierce pivot]

Corsair should never be preferred , especially for fans, dummy overpriced and meh

[dusky prism]

its not for me

[fierce pivot]

But try phanteks p360a/p400a digital

[dusky prism]

thanks

[fierce pivot]

Highly doubt Corsair aren't like 25$+ for an rgb fan anywhere in the world

[dusky prism]

https://articulo.mercadolibre.com.ar/MLA-1103753790-gabinete-gamer-corsair-carbide-spec-delta-rgb-vidrio-templa-_JM?searchVariation=173666068924#searchVariation=173666068924&position=8&search_layout=grid&type=item&tracking_id=3c2ec28f-c7b7-42dd-b1e1-0d02481cf33c

hows this?

airflow isnt great but this is the best i could find

a lot of stuff is super overpriced on mercadolibre

[fierce pivot]

No other sites you can use?

[dusky prism]

the guy lives in argentina

[fierce pivot]

I mean it will do but like gotta be better options

[dusky prism]

not really

mercadolibre is like amazon for south america

or atlaest for argentina and brazil

[fierce pivot]

I meant case wise

[dusky prism]

no

[orchid ether]

you think theyll ever sell the O11 dynamic EVO again? says limited time offer and sold out

[fierce pivot]

It's only the preorder that's sold out afaik

[sand atlas]

They might have done a limited run to gauge interest. Popular thing like that will be back.

[mild roost]

^

[odd wraith]

okay, who wants to help me find out what kind of case this is

https://www.etsy.com/listing/877888872/sailor-moon-pc-case?show_sold_out_detail=1&ref=nla_listing_details

[surreal magnet]

looks familiar

i think its a darkflash case

darkflash DLM22

i win

[weary vine]

wow such smart

[surreal magnet]

ikr only took me 2 mins

[fierce pivot]

It's a h510 rip off

[weary vine]

Its pink tho so instant -20C temp drop

Pink is perty

[fierce pivot]

Oh true

[zenith hollow]

Hello everyone , noob here with not so good tech skillz. , I bought a prebuild with Rosewill SPECTRA D100 ATX Mid Tower , received yesterday. , used the computer for like 4hours with no probs and the light of the fan in the back seemed to have dropped 90% suddenly, fan still is going , everything else on the computer seems normal. Maybe a loose wire connection ? Edit : well it looks like the light is ok now and i've done nothing.. weird .. but im happy

[fierce pivot]

Possibly but I've never heard of it just dropping light wise unless it was done purposely through button/software

My initial guess would be the LED's in the fan are faulty

[surreal magnet]

but it do be the case in the pic

[fierce pivot]

ik yaya

[rich briar]

I wanna do a vertical mount, but I don't know if my case is actually good for it airflow wise

[open quartz]

if your case has decent airflow, its good enough for a vertical mount so long as you mount it towards the middle of the case and not up against the glass

[rich briar]

my 3080 ti might be okay. wouldn't do the 3090 though

[past harbor]

Why must 95% of cases now come with the glass & then charge $20ish for a normal side panel.

[open quartz]

because cool looking pc inside with pretty lights

[little estuary]

Does anyone know where to get all white PSU extension cables even the tips? For Corsair RM1000X or it doesn’t matter as extensions should fit any PSU?

[sand atlas]

Extensions are basically universal

[open quartz]

you can find them on amazon if you want. asiahorse i think are the ones people tend to go with for cheaper extensions, me personally id recommend cablemod since ive used their custom cables before

[little estuary]

https://www.amazon.ca/EZDIY-FAB-Extension-White-Combs-White-Connector-White/dp/B09B1PNN1P/ref=sr_1_19?crid=K4C1GUSND7MI&keywords=white+psu+cable+extension&qid=1641753969&sprefix=white+psu+cable+extension%2Caps%2C62&sr=8-19 These look just as good

Yeah I found these ones, price seems reasonable

[soft egret]

why is the Evga 750w g2 psu so much

can someone explain

why

[wanton briar]

Third party sellers, that is not the MSRP and that is not the price it should be.

[past harbor]

Also why looking at "used " prices. . Anyways, no average 750w 80+ Gold psu should be much above $120 or $140.

[elfin trout]

get it from evga

like iirc g2 850w was on evga's store for like 120$

[marsh sparrow]

whats diff between o11d and o11d evo

[sand atlas]

https://youtu.be/o0wecnSTdy4

[fierce pivot]

Just get the bitfenix formula 750w for 60$

[past harbor]

can't believe I only just noticed ... this saves .37 seconds

[past harbor]

Is the 24 pin cable usually like this?

[hollow gale]

no

[fierce pivot]

37?!?

[past harbor]

point-37 seconds, lol.

[fierce pivot]

Omg you poor fella, 37 seconds to google 🤮

[weary vine]

Smh

Use google chrome

None of that opera or brave crap

[fierce pivot]

Brave and opera are not on the same tier, how dare you

[past harbor]

point-37 as in point-33 = 1/3 second. Pretty cool not needing to alt tab, DC does it for me w/ that shortcut. btw, usually use FF.

[weary vine]

Both go in the garbage tier

[weary vine]

Ew browser that tells u to donate using crypto

Cronge

[hollow gale]

where does IE fall?

[past harbor]

into a butt crack, like grand canyon.

[hollow gale]

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAH

[weary vine]

Its fallen but its so slow it doesn't know yet

Ill ask it again in a few years

[past harbor]

point of IE used to be for windows updates, now it's totally useless.

[fierce pivot]

Ohh .37 jesus I've never seen someone right out the point that's weird lol

[weary vine]

Ie used to be so u could download ff or chrome

[past harbor]

that too. I do recall a sort of "ie-mode" in FF at one time, for certain websites

[fierce pivot]

Chrome

Brave/edge
Firefox

Opera

Opera GX

[past harbor]

edge being "microsoft edge" should lose it a few points on principle

[fierce pivot]

Nah edge is useable

It's chromium based now so

Bit better

[past harbor]

Deffo feels like a weird IE/chrome mix, and obviously it is.

[hollow gale]

feel bad for Opera, was promising at one point

[past harbor]

It's neat download page/bar is mostly what I used it for, and it had good themes or something.

[hollow gale]

yeah, and the built in VPN was interesting

[past harbor]

made pages/videos load very slowly.

[astral vigil]

Atng 1000 wats gold power supply good?

[elfin trout]

???

[astral vigil]

https://www.ebay.com/itm/234356132735?chn=ps&norover=1&mkevt=1&mkrid=711-117182-37290-0&mkcid=2&itemid=234356132735&targetid=1264870804744&device=c&mktype=&googleloc=9021604&poi=&campaignid=14859008593&mkgroupid=130497710760&rlsatarget=pla-1264870804744&abcId=9300678&merchantid=101649137&gclid=CjwKCAiAz--OBhBIEiwAG1rIOotw-3FWd2Gzwp9KkUhFZlM10gNCrcCDsA7qaUSqMXr2hjNcldAHLBoC1-8QAvD_BwE

[elfin trout]

Definitely would not trust that

[fierce pivot]

@astral vigil if you need a cheap power supply, bitfenix formula gold 650w/750 on Amazon
If you actually need 1000w, phanteks amp is 140$

[astral vigil]

I already got the power supply I was just curious if the atng 1000 wats power supply was good

[astral vigil]

Lmao I wasent gonna buy it

[fierce pivot]

If not on list in pins just take it as ultra garbage tier 99% of the time unless it's a new model that hasn't been reviewed yet

Atng is probably some chinese brand that does 95 plus gold

[astral vigil]

@fierce pivot

[arctic igloo]

What's the best budget itx psu right now?

[elfin trout]

sfx? prob v sfx gold

[arctic igloo]

Thanks!

[fierce pivot]

Looks sus

[iron glen]

Does anyone have access to a Dell Inspiron 3670 AND a Dell G5 /XPS 8490. I’m trying to see if the front face of the case is compatible.

I would like to swap a front from the G5 or XPS that has some airflow. Or I could just drill some holes in my Inspiron front….like I drilled holes on the bottom of the case for psu airflow. Lol

[mild roost]

nope

they're very different machines

[boreal sage]

Guys, I'm calculating my load for a RX580 gpu, and i9-7980 xe. Bought a 1300 for a bigger rig, ... would like to use it. Would you guys downsize to 1000 or use the 1300?

1300 watt versus 1000 watt.

[fierce pivot]

Both are way too overkill for what you need

[boreal sage]

1000 would be about the middle part of the power band, right. 180 watt for the 7980 and 170 watt max for the RX-580 GPU?

[fierce pivot]

Uhhh it would be a waste to get a 1000w for that unless you want to add 3080 ti/3090/6900xt

650w more than enough

[boreal sage]

OK buddy, just wanted stability on the lines, at max power.

thanks.

[fierce pivot]

If you're in the US i would get the bitfenix formula 650w on Amazon

50$ for a great power supply

[boreal sage]

ok

I researched expensive mahines with the 3960x and 3970x processors. I'm not building one now. Companies marketing the 3960 machines used minimum 1000 to 1300 watt PS.

[past harbor]

Think about it, 1k watt is severe overkill/waste for 500w max worth of parts. An A tier 650w would be plenty, & better than some random 1k watt. 👍

[fierce pivot]

Even then just get the 750w bitfenix formula gold, 3970x uses a max of 415w

The 750w is 10$ more, worth it to you if you're thinking about the 3970x

[rigid orbit]

@fierce pivot should i cancel my nzxt order to get a 1000w psu since im heating a 3080ti?

[hoary epoch]

Nzxt psu what model did ya get

[tacit wren]

Honestly, given the price of even 1200w plat psu's - spending more now for a quality unit might be the play if you think you might upgrade in the future. A 3970x can draw 600+w if you push it.

You can get a superflower 1200w plat for $250

[fierce pivot]

Ehh 1000w would be a better choice yea but weren't you able to get 3080 instead? The jump is small to 80 ti but 850w is good enough for 3080 if it's good model

[fierce pivot]

Or phanteks amp 1000w for 145$ 👀

[boreal sage]

Guys is there really much of a difference between a PMG series and SMG series, ... looking at the Rosewell 1050.

Looks like it is mainly the layout of the connectors.

[fierce pivot]

not sure but i wouldnt actively look at rosewell cases, kinda meh

[boreal sage]

meh?

got you.

[marble nimbus]

3060 ti + 9700k draws how much?

I looked it up but got multiple results that’s y

[fierce pivot]

Good 650w like bitfenix formula gold on Amazon for 50$ (if in us)is what you need

[marble nimbus]

Ty I have a non modular 750 rn and I just want a decent priced fully modular

[fierce pivot]

Although personally the 750w for 60$ is better option if you don't mind paying the extra

[fierce pivot]

You in the us?

[marble nimbus]

I’m looking to pay around 80 bucks so anything will do

Yea

[fierce pivot]

Also modular vs non modular is just ease of use btw

[marble nimbus]

Ik

My power supply rn is such a mess tho

[fierce pivot]

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/Tsbkcf/bitfenix-formula-gold-750w-80-gold-certified-atx-power-supply-bp-fm750ulag-7r

This ^ A tier psu

[marble nimbus]

Difficult to close back of case lol

[fierce pivot]

Oof

[marble nimbus]

If I wanted to get other cables for a modular power supply so it looks nicer where would I get that if you know

[fierce pivot]

I'd usually just say get extensions because custom cables are a nightmare, they need to be for your specific model of power supply and are super expensive, like the price of the power supply or more cor cables, extensions are much cheaper

But that sounds like it might ruin the whole point for you

[marble nimbus]

Yeah

It’s fine np

Ty for helping

[fierce pivot]

Np

[odd flare]

7980xe can draw 500W overclocked

more actually if its on water

imo more wattage is never worse

saves you upgrade in future

[wanton hawk]

@fierce pivot recommend me a a psu for 10400f and 3090ti for 100$

I am actually confused

[fierce pivot]

Fair, i was going off of anandtechs review ¯_(ツ)_/¯

Just no

[wanton hawk]

?

There are just too many models

Heard deepcool was decent

[fierce pivot]

No psu that's under 130$ is gonna do a 3090 ti

Phateks amp 1000w min

[wanton hawk]

Cpu is not that heavy just a 10400

[fierce pivot]

Im well aware

[wanton hawk]

The 980ti will be gone for a 3090ti that's all

[fierce pivot]

^

[wanton hawk]

Ordered will take 1 or 2 months to arrive in my country

[wanton hawk]

I am just getting everything soo I can just pop that 3090ti in

[odd flare]

you can get a nice 1000W psu for $130-ish

[fierce pivot]

Exactly but not 100$, phanteks amp is 140w

[plucky turtle]

Can I plug in my pc to a an extension power cord without over loading it and giving enough watts for my pc

[odd flare]

probably

check your extension cord specs

i know people plug in 1000W power tools and stuff into extension cords fine

[plucky turtle]

It says 1800W

So I think it will be good

[hoary epoch]

My pc has a 1000w psu on an extension cord and with a power strip on that with a mini fridge, dual monitors, pc, and xbox 360

[past harbor]

I suggest people not have any "fridge" on the same power strip for their pc. (Mini) fridge watts jump up a lot when they "kick on" & smart to have on a separate plug/outlet.

[hoary epoch]

I'm not the smartest

[glass kraken]

circuit if possible. I run my fridges on their own breaker, too expensive and inconvenient to spoil a bunch of food if something happens to trip and isn't caught in time.

[past harbor]

It was about a mini fridge in bedroom, but I do agree. People don't know about the high inrush wattage when it "kicks on". On same circuit & power strip as the pc, probably will trip a breaker eventually.

[blazing garnet]

I’m wondering if the Seasonic Prime TX-1000 can handle two 3090’s or should I get the Asus Thor 1300

1200*

[fierce pivot]

No but why work you even need 2 3090s

[blazing garnet]

Overkill is fun / I want to get really good framerates on 4k, especially if I can put them on water and OC them.

[fierce pivot]

1 3090 is actually the same in games as 2 so no point

Or worse depending on the game

Only really useful for rendering stuff

[blazing garnet]

So for 1 3090 and a ton of fans, liquid cooling (Z690, i9, 32 or 64gb ddr5, etc,), would the TX-1000 be sufficient or am I too close?

[fierce pivot]

I wouldn't use that if you don't already have it, and just get fast ddr4 instead

[past harbor]

SLI is junk in games nowadays, fyi

[fierce pivot]

I'd get phanteks amp 1000w

[blazing garnet]

I actually already have 1 3090, z690 MB, 64GB DDR5, case (considering returning a set and sticking to 32gb), just need PSU, CPU and all the liquid cooling stuff

[fierce pivot]

Ahh okay, are you in the us?

If so I'd just get phanteks amp 1000w yeah, it's like 140$ very nice price for it

If you're not going custom loop I'd also go arctic liquid freezer ii 420mm

[blazing garnet]

Thank you! Yes, I am going custom loop, and yup, in the US

[fickle bison]

Heyoo
Hoping to get some help with finding a new PSU.
After getting some help in #windows-ios because my PC was bluescreening with a WHEA error it was found to be that the cable between the PSU and GPU was not providing enough voltage and as a result BSOD.
chillin said i should provide before and after pictures from HWiNFO for when i was using the original cable and then when i swapped the cable for a new one that came with the PSU but never been used before.

My case is a Phanteks Enthoo Evolv X midi-tower.
I don't know if it's relevant to know for helping to find a suitable PSU but i have an i7-8700k and a GTX 1060 and Asrock Z370 PRO 4

The PSU i currently have is an EvoLabs cronus modular 750W

Somewhere down the line i would like to aim for a 3080/3080ti so would like to "future proof" for that. Would be nice if the PSU has visually pleasing cables or it be possible to get custom cables for it should i want to. I got quite a dew drives as well but i doubt that will matter much though (4 drives minimum at the moment)

Not sure if there is anything else that needs to be known but let me know if there is

^^
First image is the after shot
Second image is the before shot

[worldly dust]

weird you would think 11.752v would be enough although short of 12v

usually 11.4v+ is ok

[fierce pivot]

Id get this
https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/product/jRvdnQ/corsair-rmx-2021-1000-w-80-gold-certified-fully-modular-atx-power-supply-cp-9020201-na

[fickle bison]

It was going as low as 11.6v on occasion. And then the game I was playing was pushing me enough to bluescreen 🤷‍♂️

[fickle bison]

Thanks. Looks pretty good.
Kinda mad that the cheaper ones are companies that I've no idea what they're like for buying from

[fierce pivot]

Box ccl and awd it are all perfectly fine to order from

[elfin trout]

Bleach had hwinfo64 reporting like 11v on 12v rail, hypothesis is motherboard misreporting voltages, but in your case it might be an actual issue

[fickle bison]

I has also been using gpu-z and prior to heinfo and was getting similar results on the 8pin

[fickle bison]

Doesn't seem like that PSU has many UK reviews ive noticed after looking into it a bit deeper

[fierce pivot]

Rmx? Great unit, a top A tier model

[fickle bison]

Please dont think i am being rude when i ask this. I only ask out of curiosity and aiming to learn.
Where is it that you know this from? Is there other sites that have reviews of the unit on etc that would reflect this? I assume you know it to be a good unit because you have read about it in places perhaps?

[fierce pivot]

Basically actual power supply reviewers, customer reviews mean little to nothing in tech, if you check the pins there's a tier list

[fickle bison]

Ohhh nice ok then thank you.
What's the general consensus on EVGA power supplies?

[fierce pivot]

evga have some fire hazard units -evga n1, some bad, some meh units and some good

[fickle bison]

Friend of mine uses one in his unit and then also randomly has a second 1000W he bought ages ago and was saying that (customer) reviews he saw were always somehwhere around the 4.9 mark

So they are kinda hit and miss then it seems

[fierce pivot]

Basically all brands have a handful of power supplies, same with motherboards, ram, cases, coolers, etc

[fierce pivot]

Well if it's an A tier and willing to give it to you for less than the rmx 1000w then consider it yeah

[fickle bison]

He lives in america 😂

So not quite as easy as that unfortunately

[fierce pivot]

Ahh okay

[orchid epoch]

Whats a good way to bend a case panel back into shape

[fierce pivot]

Heat

Hair dryer should do it

[orchid epoch]

Thanks

[elfin trout]

PSU tier list very useful and lists sources, main English reviewer you'll see is Aris who works mainly on techpowerup reviews

(PSU tier list source sheet lists a bunch of reputable reviewers)

[rich briar]

anyone getting the Omen 45L just for the case? new method of airflow is pretty cool

pun intended

[fierce pivot]

well the airflow is kinda meh unless you take off the glass :/

[rich briar]

From LTT's video on it it works pretty well. the biggest issue was power deliver on the mobo

[fierce pivot]

fair but pretty well not my standard for probably like a 200$ case

[rich briar]

I wonder how much it costs tbh, they said it'll be available to purchase without the oem PC

[fierce pivot]

Yeah not available yet anyway

[wraith iron]

https://www.newegg.com/p/N82E16811146148
Hello, one of my 140mm fan is dying on this case

This one back there

Quite easy to fix, just wondering what I'm buying to replace it with

these look good

or this ?

or a noctua ??

Nah noctuas are too ugly ahahah

[wanton briar]

Arctic has white fans

[wraith iron]

actic is a good brand ? Never heard of them

Just looking for a fan that'll survive a long time

[fierce pivot]

just get an arctic p14

[fierce pivot]

yeah one of the best, cheap and almost as good as noctua a12x25s

[past harbor]

No reason to pay $30 per fan. Arctic P14 is good, especially the pwm model that has a big rpm range & can adjust it to your liking for speed/sound

[hoary epoch]

so i kinda need a new 1000w psu and wanna know if there is any better value than the seasonic focus gx-1000

[sand atlas]

Phanteks AMP is $20 cheaper

Still A tier

[wooden sedge]

What's better a Corsair 5000D or Lian li 011D