cases-psu-and-cooling

[sand atlas]

The FE still has a power limit of 400W when overclocking

[civic hemlock]

I wasn't talking about OC

[sand atlas]

Ok, I just thought I'd mention it because it's easy to move a slider over to max it out.

[scenic lance]

Mine is 3090vision and yeah I bought that rmx 1000w

[fierce pivot]

Nice

[scenic lance]

My 3090 just arrived

[slate creek]

Nice

I’m surprised msi didn’t pull a 2 fan Ventus 3090 out of their ass lmao

[chrome iris]

the RM1000x looks so cute

[scenic lance]

umm that 3090vision have just 2 8 pin 🤔

[chrome iris]

My Asus TUF 3090 was 2x8 pin

[scenic lance]

isnt 8pin 200w ? so this card limited 400w ? 🤔

[chrome iris]

I’m sure you could make it use more than that

[scenic lance]

google says 8pin is 150w... so 300+ 75from mobo means max 375 ? 🤔

[fierce pivot]

75w slot, 150 +150w

[scenic lance]

means 375w max ...

🤔

[fierce pivot]

Well it has 350w tdp so

[scenic lance]

yeah so now I have to wait till that psu comes

[idle viper]

I just want something that can filter it. I have 2 dogs so pet dander is common. Plus something that I can clean out.

[quasi kraken]

if the voltage drops due to bad transient response and doesn't recover yes

it can trip OCP

[elfin trout]

ye but not just 400w draw

[fierce pivot]

You're probs best off with something like corsair 4000d airflow or something else that has removable filters

[slate creek]

Lancool II Mesh with positive pressure is really good for dust

[sand atlas]

According to ATX spec yes, but modern cables are so overbuilt they can handle 200W with no airflow, more if you have good airflow.

(assuming it's not a garbage tier psu)

[short sail]

Can someone send a link to a 15 pin female sata to 6 pin i have a gskill psu

[chrome iris]

Do you want your PC to melt @short sail

[short sail]

Yes

[chrome iris]

Cause sata to 6 pin or molex to 6 pin is always a big no

[short sail]

Ooh I didn't know

[short sail]

How can I connect my lian sl120 controller then

[chrome iris]

Wait wait wait

What kind of 6 pin are you talking about

[wanton briar]

6pin GPU to sata power?

To power a RGB / Fan controller I would assume?

[short sail]

Yea

[wanton briar]

That should be fine then

you could also get a 1 sata to 2 sata power also if that works for your application

[short sail]

I need the 6pin gpu

[short sail]

You have a link for it cause I've tried to find one but none are compatible with my psu

[wanton briar]

Just look up sata splitter

[short sail]

Can't find any

Compatible with my mother board

[wanton briar]

What?

Motherboard compatibility does not matter?

[short sail]

I mean psu mb

[wanton briar]

What are you asking for?

[tiny summit]

what you were asking

[short sail]

COMeap 6 Pin to 3X 15 Pin SATA Hard Drive Power Adapter Cable for Some Types of Thermaltake Modular PSUs 20-in(50cm) https://www.amazon.com/dp/B08KTB7JMN/ref=cm_sw_r_u_apa_glt_fabc_5GY00296DEJY08HP5RAK

Something like that

[wanton briar]

OH

What PSU do you have

[short sail]

G skill MB750G

My cousin gave it to me

[wanton briar]

You are going to have to send a email to GSKill to see if they sell just the replacement SATA cables

[short sail]

It work now

[chrome iris]

GPU 6 pin is 12v and Sata is 5v, those shouldn’t be mixed like that

[wanton briar]

I know, I misread what he was asking

[zenith basalt]

psu for kingpin 2080 ti?

planning to do some heavy overclocking

[fierce pivot]

Msi 750w agf or enermax revolution d.f. 850w

[zenith basalt]

is a 650w alr?

evga gold plus g5

[fierce pivot]

@zenith basalt why 650w, you said you wanted to do heavy overclocking? And why the g5?

[outer folio]

@zenith basalt G5 is a pretty mediocre unit, gets loud

[fierce pivot]

And depending on cpu, 650w might get too tight

[slate creek]

If you’re OCing you want the extra wattage

[outer folio]

also it's ACRF, meaning bad transient response (and might not even work with your 2080 Ti)

[slate creek]

So that’s why I see them all the time in Newegg bundles

[hoary epoch]

im here for a new question about the Seasonic - FOCUS GX-1000 and if it a good psu

[sand atlas]

A tier, should be one of the best

[hoary epoch]

alright thanks

would it go good with a 3090 stock clocks?

everything would be stock speeds with a I7-10700

[fierce pivot]

Yeah 1000w is nice for a 3090, although i would get at least a i9 10850k or ryzen 9 5900x with a 3090

If building from scratch

[sand atlas]

Yep 1000W should be good for 3090. You might still get random shutoffs occasionally when gaming due to high transient loads, that's not really the fault of the PSU, it's just that GPU.

[hoary epoch]

well to be better at explaining it is a NVIDIA ZOTAC GAMING GeForce RTX 3090 Trinity 24G OC Graphics Card that i bought to put in a customer/friend build ive been doing for a few days now

[sand atlas]

Yeah it'll work for that GPU, just make sure your friend is aware of the potential for random shutoffs because of the GPU. That's the cost we pay in addition to the cost we paid already.

It doesn't happen often, but it can happen.

If it does happen to occur you simply switch off the power supply, wait a few seconds, and switch it back on.

[slate creek]

Oh so that’s why sometimes I just can’t turn my PC on

[fierce pivot]

Should only be after it's tripped that it acts like that afaik

[slate creek]

It’s not that common but sometimes I try turning it on and it just won’t

[dusky wyvern]

So after changing my 650w Psu to the enermax 850w I've had 1 problem consistently

No power on the GPU Everytime I turn it on. Unplug and plugging the psu cord or turning off and on the psu after shutdown.

Is there a way to solve this?

It gives a quick blink when turning it on then after that, nothing. But ram and fans are lighting up.

And after I am able to run it I get this

[slate creek]

Should I upgrade to an 850w PSU? I currently have a 750w

[fierce pivot]

Are using the cables labeled pcie right and matching it up right on the psu?

[fierce pivot]

For 3090 you want 850w min but I'd recommend 1000w

[slate creek]

I meant in my 6800xt build

[dusky wyvern]

yes, i checked.

[fierce pivot]

Ahh emm lemme go check the tdp real quick

[fierce pivot]

6800xt reference anyway is 300w tdp which should be fine on a 750w

[fierce pivot]

You might have gotten unlucky with a semi faulty model then, you made sure to use the included cables and not a different psu's or custom cables right?

[dusky wyvern]

nope, i just used the cables that came with the enermax

it did this at day 2 so i thought it was just a thing at first

but been happening when turning it on.

I always power down and turn off the psu

i have a 3070, should i use the 12v3 aqnd 12v4?

[fierce pivot]

Yeah sounds like you got unlucky and return/rma time

[fierce pivot]

Wdym? There's no voltage choice afaik

[fierce pivot]

Ohh didn't know, that wouldn't matter for booting tho

[dusky wyvern]

so my only option is to return/rma?

[fierce pivot]

Afaik yes

[dusky wyvern]

https://www.nvidia.com/en-us/geforce/forums/geforce-graphics-cards/5/423642/my-pc-turns-on-except-for-the-graphics-card-can-so/

same as this dude

[fierce pivot]

Well kinda except they have a psu that has lit on fire during extreme testing but basically looks like same thing, you've tried a different gpu/pc and it worked right?

@dusky wyvern you're not running a pcie extender are you ?

[dusky wyvern]

i dont have an extra pc for it

[dusky wyvern]

no, just the cables that came with the psu

[fierce pivot]

Hmm

[fierce pivot]

I meant to the motherboard like a riser sorry*

[dusky wyvern]

i already sold my old case and psu so i cant check it.

[dusky wyvern]

I do not know what that is, can you show a picture of it?

[fierce pivot]

It's the things that let you vertically mount your graphics card so if you don't know what it is I'd say you're not running one

[dusky wyvern]

oh i see. And yeah, im not.

[fierce pivot]

But it is getting power?

Interesting

[dusky wyvern]

That's the build at day one

[fierce pivot]

Ahh

So not getting power anymore

[dusky wyvern]

And I turn off the RGB on all of it except GPU since it's too bright. But to clarify it so we cant get confused by that pic is that, when ever i turn it off and back on, everything lights back up, except the gpu, causing black screen and no display.

[fierce pivot]

Have you tried clearing cmos? Just for the sake of it

[dusky wyvern]

hmm, il try that.

[fierce pivot]

Clearing cmos can fix things that you don't think it would tbh lol

[dusky wyvern]

hmm, I only got 2 days for a return, and i need my pc on since i got work to finish.

[fierce pivot]

I see

Well clearing cmos takes like 5 mins

So worth a shot

Just take out motherboard battery, unplug pc from wall plug wait 5 mins pop it back in and try boot again

[dusky wyvern]

aight brb

[dusky wyvern]

It seems to only happens sometimes but a 40/60 chance

[fierce pivot]

I'd return/rma it

[slate creek]

How big of an airflow difference would it be if I put 140mm fans on the top of my Lancool II instead of 120mm

[slate creek]

And what are some good RGB intake fans?

[urban sky]

I just ordered the corsair sf750 for my ncase m1. Is there a cable bundle I should buy separately?

Or is the one that comes with it a good length?

[slate creek]

The cables that come with it should be fine

[urban sky]

Great! Thank you.

[fierce pivot]

If you have 120mm already probs not worth the upgrade

[slate creek]

I’m replacing the stock fans in my Lancool II Mesh with RGB P12s so I was wondering maybe I should put 140mm fans in the top since it has the space

[fierce pivot]

I mean if you're okay with non rgb on top, afaik no rgb p14s

[slate creek]

Oh yeah I know I’d just put some fans from a different brand

I think I’ll just stick with the 120mm fans

[fierce pivot]

Yeah just put the stock ones in top or something

[slate creek]

Also do you know any good RGB Intake fans?

[fierce pivot]

P12 :)

[slate creek]

Because I’m planning to have the 2 fans slots under my GPU as intake

Do they look good when set to intake?

Ehh normal fans look good enough

[fierce pivot]

Ya they look fine, would that not just slowly stuck suck air from the psu tho?

[slate creek]

The bottom flap is mesh and the PSU fan is facing downwards

Basically the PSU is it’s own airflow system if you know what I mean

[fierce pivot]

Ik that but wouldn't it be intaking from the PSU shroud like

[slate creek]

Huh?

Oh nah

There really isn’t a PSU shroud there are 2 flaps down there

The bottom flap on this side is fully mesh

[fierce pivot]

I seee

[slate creek]

So extra airflow to the GPU pretty much

You can see it better in this pic

[fierce pivot]

Ahhhh

Nice

[slate creek]

And that’s why

Lancool II Mesh is my bae

[fierce pivot]

Touche

[minor portal]

rasbb3rry#1563 has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

[potent bone]

is a revolution d.f good for a starter psu?

[sand atlas]

Yes that's one of the top tier units

[fierce pivot]

It's a great psu, scratch even the starter bit

[potent bone]

will it fit in a tuf gaming gt301

[sand atlas]

Yes, that's a standard mid-tower

[potent bone]

k thx

[slate creek]

Single rail vs multi rail whatre the differences?

And in performance which is better?

This whole project of mine is one giant rabbit hole

[outer folio]

http://www.jongerow.com/multiple-12V-rails/index.html

[odd rapids]

Rip JG website

[honest pawn]

is the NZXT H510 Elite case good?

[vocal tree]

https://tenor.com/view/pirómano-meme-jeje-odio-bomberos-gif-15722930

[honest pawn]

lmao i get the picture

[vocal tree]

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/LZMTwP/gigabyte-p-b-450-w-80-bronze-certified-atx-power-supply-gp-p450b

I am curious about this psu

would be nice to have a blacklist feature on PCPP

[vocal tree]

gonna keep my eye on this one https://pcpartpicker.com/product/zdvqqs/evga-b5-550-w-80-bronze-certified-fully-modular-atx-power-supply-220-b5-0550-v1

low priority B tier

also cheap

[scenic lance]

noy good

[vocal tree]

yea

I knew it was mischief when there wasn't a trace of it on the tier list

but I still must entertain the idea

[scenic lance]

its D tier on tier list

iirc

[vocal tree]

https://tenor.com/view/bear-in-the-big-blue-house-sniffing-smelling-pov-first-person-gif-17093880

I interpret as something else idk

cause it's specifying PB500

same here

p650b is part of this lineup tho

doodoo fart

and the one beneath too

[outer folio]

pb650 is better then pb450 and 550

450 and 550 are group regulated

[elfin trout]

Things get annoying when people use different platforms for different wattages of the same model name

[sharp remnant]

what paint materials are best for me to paint on a case?

i have seen and heard that oil's not viable here

the case is a basic black

[slate creek]

Just get spray paint, masking tape and sand paper and you should be set

Even coat and it’ll be better than a normal paint brush/roller

[hoary epoch]

What cases are large enough for a 13in gpu but also have type c headers on the top or front io of the case and can support standard atx size that arent over $160

[fierce pivot]

Corsair 4000d airflow

And 5000d airflow

Phanteks p500a should also have

[hoary epoch]

So out of corsair airflow series which one would look better in black because i have a black mobo and gpu and ram with Asus tuf gaming AIO 240mm rad coming in for it and i wanna see which would be better

The gpu will be painted black except the rgb lit portions

[gaunt cradle]

Is this case good for a 3080?

https://www.newegg.com/black-szd-sp-series-atx-micro-atx-mid-tower/p/2AM-01GY-00001?item=9SIAR4GCHV0950&cm_sp=SP-_-450657-_-0-_-1-_-9SIAR4GCHV0950-_-computer+case-_-case|computer-_-20

[feral spoke]

How long is ur gpu

@gaunt cradle

Or just send me your gpu

If it is on Newegg

Yes @gaunt cradle

It is

But I checked 1

You have to just know it would work on ur thing

[gaunt cradle]

Alright

https://www.newegg.com/black-fang-mu-zhe-mozheng-m1-atx-mid-tower/p/2AM-030U-00004?item=9SIARXYDNA2266&cm_sp=SP-_-654532-_-0-_-2-_-9SIARXYDNA2266-_-PC+Case-_-case|pc-_-8

On second thought I’ve been looking at this case, but in the about section it says that water cooling cannot be installed at the same time as air cooling, does that mean I can’t use a liquid cpu cooler

As well as fans

[gaunt cradle]

@feral spoke

[feral spoke]

Lemme figure it out

Front supports 360mm and 240mm on the bottom and 120mm on the back and on the top you can have 240mm water cooler

@gaunt cradle

[civic hemlock]

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B08123NHSC?tag=pcpapi-20&linkCode=ogi&th=1&psc=1&pldnSite=1 is this good for the price

[gaunt cradle]

Ok so that means I can have both

[potent bone]

is the 4000d airflow good or should I get the 5000d airflow

[weary vine]

4000d airflow is great

[potent bone]

okay thanks

[onyx ingot]

seasonic the way to go for a 1000W psu?

[chrome iris]

Depends on the unit

Model > brand

[onyx ingot]

got any recs? i've searched through reddit a bit and it's just a wide range of information across various threads and subreddits

as far as model

[chrome iris]

Reddit is wiggity wack, yo

I know Corsair RMx is very good but I’m gonna look for some cheaper alternatives

Btw what do you need 1000w for

[weary vine]

Bruh I hate reddit for tech ngl. Literally got downvoted to all hell for suggesting an 11400 over a 3600 in amdhelp

[wanton briar]

Reddit usually is awful for tech

Many conflicting opinions

[onyx ingot]

i stumbled upon a 3090

[weary vine]

Its filled with dumb people tech wise

[onyx ingot]

lot of conflicting opinions

[chrome iris]

Nope RMx seems to be the best value rn

[chrome iris]

Should be fine on an 850w tbh

Actually I’m positive it will

My 3090 build ran good on an 850w

[weary vine]

Depending on what 3090

[chrome iris]

Mine was a TUF

[onyx ingot]

yeah, that's the issue. i have a 750 at the moment figure if i'm going to get a new one why not go up to 1000w

i got evga ftw3 ultra

[chrome iris]

Yolks

[onyx ingot]

i checked out the RMx seemed decent with my limited expertise. it seems like a yelling match on reddit between people saying it's trash or amazing. again it's a wild place for that kind of thing

[chrome iris]

https://www.bestbuy.com/site/corsair-rmx-series-rm1000x-80-plus-gold-fully-modular-atx-power-supply-black/6459246.p

[wanton briar]

https://linustechtips.com/topic/1116640-psucultists-psu-tier-list/

This PSU Tier list is incredibly helpful

[chrome iris]

People saying the RMx is trash are blatantly wrong lmao, there’s a buncha professional reviews on it, it’s super great

Sometimes it’s not the greatest value but in the 1000w range it seems to be pretty good

When you’re 650,750,850w there are better value alternatives but 1000w is different

[elfin trout]

rmi used to be so nice for 1000w

[chrome iris]

But it’s not there anymore

[wanton briar]

I got a RM1000i awhile back for super cheap because of a ebay scammer

[chrome iris]

Wasn’t RMi older than RMx? Not that it matters I just forgot

[wanton briar]

I bought the PSU and was able to keep it and got a ebay refund then I RMAd with Corsair and only had to pay $23 for shipping

So pretty much I got a RM1000i for $23

super epic

[chrome iris]

$23 for a quality 1000w sheesh

[elfin trout]

I mean

[chrome iris]

I paid uhhh $46 for my 1000w photon lmao

1050 I mean

[wanton briar]

I was surprised Corsair let me RMA it

[elfin trout]

2021 RMx will definitely be a newer model than RMi

but

not like rmi is bad

[chrome iris]

I never said RMi was bad

Cuz RMi is just different or has like a couple more features than 2018 RMx…? I don’t remember wtv

[wanton briar]

Tier List shows RMi is one of the best units in A tier

[stuck thicket]

hi all, could anyone direct me to where i can get some build advice ?

[onyx ingot]

#building-and-recc-chat maybe?

[stuck thicket]

im wanting to build a pc in a smaller case but know very little and fear the issues that may come with cooling

[onyx ingot]

i haven't spent too much time in this server but that is probably a solid place to start

[chrome iris]

What components what case?

[civic hemlock]

RMx, Focus/Focus Gold are all good cheap 1000w units

[stuck thicket]

im thinking: nr200
5800x
3070

[chrome iris]

I mean I’ve seen plenty of 3080 builds in the NR200

As long as you get the right fan config you should be fine

[stuck thicket]

no idea how to achieve this..

[chrome iris]

https://preview.redd.it/ufk5vl7uukd51.png?width=1280&format=png&auto=webp&s=2777beed51d62086c32fbbf439beceacf1166fe8

[stuck thicket]

thats the biggest challenge i presume

[stuck thicket]

could you explain a bit please, im pretty clueless. Just really dont want my pc to look like a spaceship/themepark

and that case seems minimal and small !

[chrome iris]

Two 120mm in the top, one 120mm in the rear, two 120mm or two 90mm+one 80mm on bottom

Top and bottom intake, rear exhaust

Or, actually looks like the rear is just a cpu cooler only

Honestly might wanna ask someone more experienced with it lol I’m not a big ITX guy

This is just what I found on the goog

[stuck thicket]

haha ok thanks !

[rich briar]

What's a good price for a seasonic focus 1000w PSU?

[elfin trout]

Which one...? @rich briar

[rich briar]

The only one in stock on amazon is the Seasonic Focus Plus and it's 199$

[slate creek]

It’s an A tier but under low priority units

[elfin trout]

Like focus plus Fx? Gx? Gm? Px?

[rich briar]

Fx sorry

I see GX is on Newegg for 185

Superflower has one for 190$ on Newegg and it's a Platinum PSU

[fierce pivot]

I mean corsair rmx 1000w is like 180ish iirc that's an a tier

[elfin trout]

I wouldn't, fx is the older model, and the focus units pre 2018 had transient response issues

[elfin trout]

Again, which one? Leadex platinum se for 190$ is great imo, but if you're looking at something else ...

[rich briar]

Yes leadex platinum se

Meant to send the photo

Was getting a haircut

@elfin trout would that be a good purchase?

[outer folio]

RMi is just a gold HX plat

[tribal breach]

Is 750 watt fine for a 10400f/11400f and 3070?

[weary vine]

yes

[tribal breach]

Ok

[weary vine]

tho

Revolution D.F or MSI MPG are great psus

[tribal breach]

Well I already have a 750watt psu in my current build, it's just quite old, It's a corsair hx750 80+gold. Should I look into getting a new psu or should this be fine for now?

[outer folio]

Thats good

[tribal breach]

This one

Currently I have a 3770k at 4.1ghz and a 980ti, not sure how much that pulls but it's been working fine.

I just assumed since it was old it would be unreliable for a new system.

I'll probably still buy a new psu in the future though, can't be too sure.

Just trying to save some money where I can.

[fierce pivot]

Nope, psus are one of the few things you can keep in builds and carry over to builds for years and years

Only reason for a new psu for the build you're gonna do is if your other one dies

[weary vine]

Not a great power supply

its a tier C

[weary vine]

I would 100% buy one of these

[fierce pivot]

C tier is fine, 750w is plenty of headroom for a 3070 and 11400 anyway

[tribal breach]

I'll look up how much those are

[fierce pivot]

About 90$

[weary vine]

Fine not great tho

[fierce pivot]

Yeah but doesn't not worth the 90$ or so unless they needed a new psu, remember, already paid =infinite value

[weary vine]

Ehhhh fair enuff

[tribal breach]

Prices are in CAD

[weary vine]

Horrible prices

Stick with what you have

[tribal breach]

Ok

[fierce pivot]

The 650w pricing is decent but 750w is bad yeah

[vocal tree]

Could get a B tier

Still about the same prices as A tier tho iirc

Haven't looked at higher power versions of CX or PP11

Ya

Spensive

[minor portal]

Pravdovich#2367 has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

Pravdovich#2367 has been kicked

Reason: Too many infractions

[rich briar]

Smh

[vocal tree]

hmm

[weary vine]

I got pinged

[outer folio]

Reason for that is missing otp

[outer folio]

Sorry lol

[weary vine]

Yes

[outer folio]

Its fan is good enough so you shouldn't worry about it

[chrome iris]

But if the fan happens to break

[charred pier]

https://www.newegg.com/evga-supernova-650-gt-220-gt-0650-y1-650w/p/N82E16817438186?Item=N82E16817438186

is that a good psu for a 3060 and an i5-11400f

?

[chrome iris]

It would work but I would rather get this

https://www.newegg.com/super-flower-leadex-iii-sf-650f14hg-650w/p/1HU-024C-00007?Item=9SIAMNPAY44593&Source=socialshare&cm_mmc=snc-social-_-sr-_-9SIAMNPAY44593-_-07212021

Same price, also comes with a random 120mm rgb fan I didn’t even notice

@charred pier

[elfin trout]

Ye

[civic hemlock]

Name something more useless than an RGB PSU kek

[chrome iris]

A fork when you’re eating soup

[surreal helm]

is this a good psu?

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/zdvqqs/evga-b5-550-w-80-bronze-certified-fully-modular-atx-power-supply-220-b5-0550-v1

[vocal tree]

yea

don't you have a 500w

[surreal helm]

ya no this is for a friend

[vocal tree]

and are looking for higher xd

ah ok

[surreal helm]

when i upgrade im getting a 650

[elfin trout]

Forks are actually great for some soup tho, like noodles

[chrome iris]

*forks when you’re eating a bowl of soda

[vocal tree]

low priority B tier the B5 is

[elfin trout]

Lol

[chrome iris]

Leadex iii 550w is only $10 more

[elfin trout]

I like using fork for most soup, for any soup with bits of food

[chrome iris]

But then you don’t get the broth

I understand noodle

[elfin trout]

You just out the bowl to your lips and sip

No need for ineffective spoon

[chrome iris]

The broth adds to the taste

[vocal tree]

chopstipcs

[chrome iris]

That’s like eating tortilla chips and drinking the salsa after

[vocal tree]

yea I'd drink salsa

the good stuff

not store bought crap

and not salsa fresca

[elfin trout]

Yes, chopsticks great

[fierce pivot]

Pfft, knife soup

[vocal tree]

ice pick soup

https://tenor.com/view/ascending-energy-galaxy-gif-17739196

[surreal helm]

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/97QfrH/evga-ba-600-w-80-bronze-certified-atx-power-supply-100-ba-0600-k1

is this a good psu?

[vocal tree]

low priority tier c

just look at the tier list

[fierce pivot]

@surreal helm why you want a new psu? And whats your price range

[potent bone]

should I get a 4000d airflow or a 5000d airflow for more fans?

[surreal helm]

well it's for my friend and he needs a new mobo and psu for 150

[elfin trout]

Cx 550 was like 55$

[fierce pivot]

I would go 4000d airflow or p500a instead

[surreal helm]

what do u guys think about a gigabyte b560m lga1200 with a corsair cv 550 psu

[elfin trout]

Cv sucks

[fierce pivot]

Depends on the b560, if it's ds3h i would spend 10$ more and get a prime

[chrome iris]

Most likely
No

[fierce pivot]

If they need a 50$ psu, segotep 600w is 50$

[chrome iris]

GA series blows so I can only imagine BA series is worse

[chrome iris]

CX650 was $50 with rebate last time I checked, which was yesterday

[potent bone]

is p500a better than the 4000d airflow?

[surreal helm]

sheesh thank u this is a good one 🙏

[elfin trout]

P500a is

[potent bone]

okay

[elfin trout]

It just supports more things and better airflow

[fierce pivot]

Np

[elfin trout]

Also nice sorted box for screws

[potent bone]

for a purple blue, and black setup should I go black case or white

[elfin trout]

Black

[potent bone]

okay

[elfin trout]

White would stand out to much tbh

The rest of the colors are dark

[potent bone]

okay

[fierce pivot]

Up to you but black makes more sense to what you said

[potent bone]

non rgb or drgb

[elfin trout]

Drgb

[potent bone]

it’s only in white

[elfin trout]

Non-rgb doesn't come with as many fans

[potent bone]

For drgb

[fierce pivot]

Up to you but i would go rgb

[elfin trout]

There's a black p500a digital

[potent bone]

where I’m on it’s only in white

[fierce pivot]

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/LVQfrH/phanteks-eclipse-p500a-d-rgb-atx-mid-tower-case-ph-ec500atg_dbk01

[elfin trout]

https://www.newegg.com/black-phanteks-eclipse-p500a-atx-mid-tower/p/N82E16811854101

[fierce pivot]

Outside the us? Or different site?

[potent bone]

dif site I was on Amazon lol

[fierce pivot]

Ahh there ya go

[potent bone]

lol

does it only come with 3 fans?

[fierce pivot]

4 i think

1 exhaust?

Nvm

I think just 3

[potent bone]

damn so I’ll have to add more

what fan size

[fierce pivot]

Ehh not really

[potent bone]

nvm

[fierce pivot]

Maybe 1 exhaust

But 3 in 1 out is good

Or even 3 in 0 out

Natural exhaust

[potent bone]

wdym

to many words coming at me

[elfin trout]

Don't need to add more

[potent bone]

so 3 is ok

[fierce pivot]

Yep

[elfin trout]

It's good enough

[fierce pivot]

You can add more if you want but you def don't need to

[potent bone]

I have a question bit about this server tho

which one for my black, purple, and blue setup

[elfin trout]

There's probably more and better options tbh, not too familiar with deskmats

[surreal helm]

can someone recommend a good case for 60 or under

[elfin trout]

PC case...? Or keyboard case?

[surreal helm]

pc case

[elfin trout]

Try neo air or mx330-g air

[vocal tree]

what form factor

[elfin trout]

Usually ATX when not specified so :p

[vocal tree]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

yea

[undone void]

how do I remove this front panel I cant find any screws

tryna replace the default case fans

there's a hole. on the bottom of the case if that helps

[slate creek]

Most likely grap that hole in the bottom and pull

A lot of cases are like that

[ruby wedge]

https://www.newegg.com/black-montech-x1-atx-mid-tower/p/2AM-00CN-00011

Would this be a good case

[hollow gale]

There doesnt seem to be enough space behind the motherboard for cable runs, and doesnt look the best quality.

[slate creek]

A lot of QC issues and no cable space

I wouldn’t buy it

[ruby wedge]

What would be a good case under 60 dollars

[hollow gale]

do you have a normal ATX motherboard?

https://www.newegg.com/black-phanteks-eclipse-p300a-mesh-edition-atx-mid-tower/p/N82E16811854097

[ruby wedge]

I am going to get the prime b560 soon

[elfin trout]

Metalicgear neo air and Cougar mx330-g air

https://www.newegg.com/black-white-metallic-gear-neo-air-atx-mid-tower/p/N82E16811854093

https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/1543118-REG/cougar_mx330_g_air_gaming_mid_tower.html

[fierce pivot]

Oof that's a bit steep, it's supposed to be 50$ :/ only 1 fan by default

[elfin trout]

P300a is nice but I'd like more fans with it

And neo air is built on the p300a chassis iirc

[ruby wedge]

Alright thanks

[hollow gale]

That neo air looks really nice actually

[fierce pivot]

Yeah p300a was nice at 50$ when you could add a p12 or 2 and still make it cheaper than p360a

[hollow gale]

I picked Lian Li, CM, TT, Corsair, Phanteks and Fractal and sorted by price and that was the best of the lot.

[elfin trout]

(don't..?)

Demonmit has used the mx330-g air before, pic to his build here
#build-pics message

[hollow gale]

I cant handle the 5.25 drive slot. 😆

[fierce pivot]

Fair lol

[elfin trout]

Anyways sorting price cheapest to expensive and just finding cases that you recognize as decent seems more useful and more convenient

[hollow gale]

oh, I also selected Antec. but was suprised at a lack of decent options from them

[fierce pivot]

Antec don't have many great case options but the nx410 actually looks decent

[elfin trout]

That reminds me, mx410 mesh g rgb can be nice

[fierce pivot]

Think that was what i was looking at yeah

Oh m nvm

I'm blind

[hollow gale]

theyre a "budget" brand, and ive seen some of their recent cases that look pretty decent.

yeah, that nx410 is very much like a p300a

[fierce pivot]

The sub 60$ ones are like hard plastic front lol

[fierce pivot]

More p360a actually cuz it comes with 3 120s stock

1 more than p360a actually i think

[hollow gale]

I meant in size / structure. but yeah, 3 rgb fans is a lot of value

[fierce pivot]

Ahh yeah, looks better value since p360a price went up actually

[hollow gale]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vVq6-YHW6q8

a new contender, though I cant see it for sale anywhere yet

[potent bone]

whenever I’m turning the power supply on theirs a blinking red light and my gpu light is blinking what do I do?

[slate creek]

That means there’s not enough power being supplied to the GPU

What gpu do you have and what wattage is the PSU?

[worthy gate]

Not sure if this should go in this channel, but I have a power draw/Voltage/Amperage question re: ARGB headers and fans

So I understand an ARGB header is 5V(3A). What I don’t fully understand is what number you use from your fans to determine their power draw from the header. On ARGB fans there are two cables, one for lighting and one I assume powers the motor. When I calculate the power draw for the fan do I need to account for the whole fan’s power consumption or just the draw of power for the LEDs?

Which should be lower obviously than the whole fan.

Some fans list the LED power draw and some just list one or two unspecified power draws

Im pretty sure with the numbers I’ve calculated that daisy-chaining my 7 fans will work on a single header. But of course I want to avoid any catastrophic failures or power problems.

[wanton briar]

https://www.techpowerup.com/284838/evga-announces-supernova-p6-power-supplies

New EVGA PSU.

I like the silver grill

[chrome iris]

Let’s hope they don’t mess this one up like they have been doing lately

[visual mirage]

At least their customer service and rma is on point and will honor it to any extent. Gotta respect a company that puts you first and not them

[fierce pivot]

That shouldn't have to be the bar

[fierce pivot]

https://youtu.be/e1-d_n7CC7M looking good 🤔

Actually let me change that to interesting anyway

Molex only fans 🤮

[vocal tree]

Xd

Arctic P + good cheap case any day

[fierce pivot]

yeah p360a and a p12 or something

[scenic lance]

i cant join pcmr for some reason so ill ask here

[vocal tree]

Cause they can't stand anyone that uses a console maybe

Ask away

[scenic lance]

can i not send a reddit link?

interesting

[vocal tree]

Lvl 3 mee6 required

[scenic lance]

Hi, I am looking for a smaller sized mATX case without spending a fortune, I have seen the Lian Li O11 Dynamic mini and of course the Corsair 280X, but these are a bit wider than I'd like, anyone have any experience with the Lian Li 205m?, its quite a lot more up my alley, being smaller without being too much wider, does anyone have any experience with that case?, I can't image its going to be too good airflow wise but a lot of cases (280X, for example) don't seem to be good airflow wise in this category anyways, great full for any help, thanks.

[vocal tree]

Thermaltake Versa H18 TG is nice

Not particularly large

Doesn't include front fans tho

2x Arctic P14s and it's breezy

[scenic lance]

huh, thats smaller than the 205m but does it come in white cause thats the color i was going for

shouldve specified, mb

[chrome iris]

Also take a look at the Thermaltake Snow S100

That’s by far my favorite MATX case I’ve used

[vocal tree]

Nop doesn't come in white

[chrome iris]

H18 doesn’t look like it has the greatest cable management

[minor portal]

Analice#6283 has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

[chrome iris]

Here’s a pic of my build in the S100 👀

[vocal tree]

Not really

It's fine tho xd

[scenic lance]

oop

guess no cussing allowed

[chrome iris]

Yeah this is family friendly PG clean server

[scenic lance]

i was under the impression thermal take made crappy products cause of good ol' tech jesus

[chrome iris]

This one was fine

Cooled my R9 390X and R5 1600 AF very well with 4 fans

3 front 1 back

Actually has pretty big airflow holes in the front

Fairly spacious for an MATX case too

I’m usually not a fan of TT cases but this one was nice

[scenic lance]

quite a bit bigger than the other options height wise

and i fear this would have the same thermal issues the 205M probably would have

no front intake

[chrome iris]

Yeah it’s pretty wide too

[scenic lance]

or like,

very little front intake

[chrome iris]

I mean

[scenic lance]

https://lian-li.com/product/lancool-205/ the case i keep referencing

[chrome iris]

My GPU is a 300w gpu

[vocal tree]

The worst thing about the H18 is the front panel honestly, 120mm fans are mountable on the outside but 140s you have to put inside

[chrome iris]

And it stayed at about 70-75c

Which is really good for a card that uses almost as much as an RTX 3070, or around as much

[scenic lance]

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B085DPLBM6/ref=twister_B084MHJJ92?_encoding=UTF8&psc=1

i mean i use an 570 and im going to upgrade to a 3300x

i overclock them but i do understand i dont need it to be icy

[chrome iris]

That barely uses any power, you won’t have any issues with thermals at all

[scenic lance]

regardless of case?

[chrome iris]

The side vents are actually pretty large and allow for a lot of air

[chrome iris]

I used a Ryzen 1600 and RX 570 in a DarkFlash DLM21 (literally no front intake vents btw) and thermals were totally fine

[scenic lance]

ight then

[chrome iris]

When you’d wanna start worrying is when you use GPU like a 3060 Ti or something lol

[scenic lance]

anything the s100 offers over the 205m?, its a bit bigger but if it offers better features id get it instead

[chrome iris]

RX 570 uses like nothing

[scenic lance]

i actually dont plan to upgrade my gpu at all

i dont play any games that require more than what i have

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[chrome iris]

I mean 205m has cable grommets

Which are always super nice

Other than that I don’t see anything else other than more room

[scenic lance]

guess im getting the 205m then, i just like the aesthetic and slightly smallerness better :P

i plan to change from non modular psu to full modular for cables aswell but psus are hella confusing

[minor portal]

Analice#6283 has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

[scenic lance]

all the funky teir lists

smh im used to using curses without thinking when typing

😔

[vocal tree]

Curled metal at least for the holes

[scenic lance]

?

[vocal tree]

P sure most cases have that at least xd

[scenic lance]

oh

[vocal tree]

Instead of a sharp edge, it's curled over

Safety concern

[scenic lance]

yeah

[vocal tree]

H18 has rhat

[scenic lance]

i also plan to upgrade my aio

[vocal tree]

And it's not something to really pay attention to

[scenic lance]

in my current case im using a 120 🤢

[vocal tree]

Oof

Could just get a decent tower cooler lol

[scenic lance]

^ could do that too

[vocal tree]

Would beat a 120

[scenic lance]

b-b-but aio aesthetic 🥺

oh yeah, i was gonna switch to an m.2 too but

should i wait 🤨

since 2.0 came out or whatever

[vocal tree]

I think most cases support at least one large aio these days

PCIe gen 4 drives aren't really something to get hyped about

Yet at least

[scenic lance]

ooook

[desert wraith]

Hey
Can anyone help me

I recently built a PC

Ryzen 5 3600
500gb hhd
256ssd
16gb ram
A5OM aororus motherboard
500w power supply
Case
GTX 1050TI 4GB (FAKE) it was like 20 years old from eBay.
And when I saved and exited from the bios I kept getting a message saying that there is a problem we will restart it for you. We made the pc check its self for any hardware issues and it said non. And It would keep saying there was a problem I have tried LITERALLY EVERYTHING. I'm 80% sure it was my GPU. Because everything else was new. And so could someone help me find a 500-700$ pc that caps Fortnite at 144fps low settings on performance mode. That will run smooth. Thanks

[vocal tree]

Do you use a SATA SSD?

[scenic lance]

ig ill asking in cooling but what aios should i look for

[vocal tree]

Stop spamming bro

[scenic lance]

250gb yeah

[vocal tree]

Ah

[scenic lance]

im trying to eleviate cables

as much as possible

[vocal tree]

Could totally get an NVMe drive

SN550 or something

Not sure about aios

Something arctic maybe

[scenic lance]

im looking to get a 1tb nvme so i dont have to worry about storage

[vocal tree]

Literally just have stock coolers zd

[scenic lance]

i dont store much but

¯_(ツ)_/¯

games are big

[vocal tree]

Wouldn't hurt to keep the SATA drive around

Hide the cables away

[scenic lance]

iggggggggggggg

i hated working with my stiff sata cables but fair

[vocal tree]

Lol

[scenic lance]

ig thats what ill do to save on costs then

keep the sata and get an m.2, i also have 3 other hard drives

[vocal tree]

These cases you're looking at should provide decent routing holes to manage that hopefully

[scenic lance]

(current case is an MX330-G from cougar)

[vocal tree]

H18 has the holes a little misaligned with my ports xd

I have just a 2TB hard drive under my psu shroud, and gonna put a 250GB SATA drive in later

My pc at home has a 1TB hard drive and the 500GB SATA SSD I bought a while ago

[scenic lance]

i wonder how, other than making the case wider, companies could make cases smaller by moving the hard drive bay areas

ayo, top mounted sata without 3.5" bay

[vocal tree]

I've considered offloading my hard drives to a network attached storage but I don't have the resources for that yet

[scenic lance]

smart

i might do this with the spare parts ill have

[vocal tree]

https://tenor.com/view/vibing-gif-21512249

[scenic lance]

since ill have basically an entire pc just would need a new mobo and ram

[vocal tree]

Yea I have several computers at this point xd

Just need to prepare them for other uses

[minor portal]

Analice#6283 has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

[scenic lance]

ugh

oopsie

[vocal tree]

[scenic lance]

i technically have like 7 devices if u count all the [redacted] up laptop parts i have lying around

[vocal tree]

I have like 3 at home and 2 here

Or so

One early 2000s Sempron machine, one E-450 machine, one i7-4790, then an A8-6410 all in one and the PC I built with an i5-4460 and a GTX 970

[scenic lance]

p pog

[vocal tree]

Gaming

[scenic lance]

what psus should i look to

for a cheap fully modular one

[vocal tree]

EVGA B5 I think

Corsair CXF

[chrome iris]

For an RX 570 and 3300x?

For $50 you could get an EVGA 650w G1+ or a 650w Corsair CX, which is like 200w more than you need but they’re pretty good deals

Actually, this G+ is a really dang good deal

EVGA SuperNOVA 120-GP-0650-X1, 650 G+, 80 Plus Gold 650W, Fully Modular, FDB Fan, 10 Year Warranty, Includes Power ON Self Tester, Power Supply https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0797CDK7J/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_glt_fabc_CAW90ATVJA0AS2ZGZ947?_encoding=UTF8&psc=1

[scenic lance]

these are not place good on psu tier lists though

[vocal tree]

Anything C tier and up is fine

They're b tier

[elfin trout]

CX-F is gold B tier, that's pretty good

[vocal tree]

On par with a Pure Power 11, which is like 20 bucks more

[scenic lance]

so get the cx-f or that evga?

i can get the evga rn but id have to wait aa bit for the cx

[scenic lance]

?

[civic hemlock]

Just out of curiosity, which one is better. Lancool 215 or 4000D Airflow?

[civic hemlock]

Damn $50 for G+ 650?

[fierce pivot]

4000d airflow any day of the week, 215 is a hard plastic front panel no airflow

[elfin trout]

what

no

[civic hemlock]

It's mesh

[elfin trout]

215 beats 4000d airflow any day of the week

[fierce pivot]

Ohh I'm thinking of 215m

[elfin trout]

215 is third on the chart

4000d is way down

[fierce pivot]

My b thinking of 205

[elfin trout]

@civic hemlock but yea lancool 215

[fierce pivot]

^

[civic hemlock]

I remember LC2 going down to like $90 one time

Insane deal

How well does MB511 compare to LC215

[elfin trout]

prob bad

[civic hemlock]

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/QYzkcf/cooler-master-masterbox-mb511-rgb-atx-mid-tower-case-mcb-b511d-kgnn-rgb

[chrome iris]

Nah, get that G+, it’s also B tier but a lot cheaper

Double the warranty as well

[civic hemlock]

Isn't G+ a rebrand of Leadex III?

[chrome iris]

No idea tbh

[civic hemlock]

Oh the G2 is

[elfin trout]

g+ isn't

g+ is some fsp custom psu

[chrome iris]

Yeah ik the G2 is

G2 is Poggers

[civic hemlock]

Isn't Bronze and Gold like a 3% difference in efficiency?

[chrome iris]

Probs

Nvm it’s 5

You’re thinking of bronze to silver

[civic hemlock]

Oh I didn't even know silver existed lol

[fierce pivot]

Silver is v rare

[civic hemlock]

Wait so Plat and Titanium are the same?

[fierce pivot]

Most psus skip it and go from bronze to gold

[chrome iris]

Titanium is more efficient at 100% load

[elfin trout]

and again

remember

[fierce pivot]

Nope, look at 100% load

[elfin trout]

they don't follow the exact curve

For example, Revolution D.F. is rated 80+ gold, but in testing, iirc it meets every 80+ platinum requirement for efficiency bar at 20% or something

[civic hemlock]

Also what's the difference between non-modular and semi modular?

[fierce pivot]

Basically nothing

[elfin trout]

a few wires you can take off and no wires you can take off

[fierce pivot]

Nvm i misread

Non modular, all cables build in, semi modular means you can take out some

[chrome iris]

Semi mod usually has 24 pin and 8 pin CPU pre-attached, which are things you need anyways so I don’t know why people always want full modular vs semi lol

[elfin trout]

aftermarket wires

[chrome iris]

Just get cable extention smh

Unless you’re ITX

[civic hemlock]

RMx is a rebrand of Focus right?

[elfin trout]

no

[fierce pivot]

But they are fire hazard if not designed for exact psu, cable extensions way better shout

[elfin trout]

It's modified cwt gpu

[fierce pivot]

Cwt gpu

[elfin trout]

Revolution D.F. is actually just stock cwt gpu iirc

still need to figure out if the single rail version or multi rail version is stock cwt gpu, and which is modified

maybe it has both

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[chrome iris]

Stock GPU is multi

[elfin trout]

But did MSI modify A-gf to be single rail?

Or do they offer a CWT GPU that's also single rail?

¯_(ツ)_/¯

there's also deepcool smth that's also on cwt gpu

[chrome iris]

No cuz it’s literally the exact same as Revo DF minus the casing and fan

[elfin trout]

yea it's the dq-m that's the single rail one

[chrome iris]

GPU is multi rail, GPR is single rail, for the platforms btw

[elfin trout]

not sure if that one was modified to be or not

wait

one of them was single rail

too lazy

prob just rmx

[rough depot]

do you need jfp1?

i dont tink my motherboard has any

think

[elfin trout]

uh

front panel connectors?

[chrome iris]

What mobo do you have

[rough depot]

@chrome iris asus tuf x570 plus wifi

[chrome iris]

Lol that has front panel connectors

It doesn’t have to be named jfp1 it can be named something else

[rough depot]

do i need it?

[chrome iris]

I mean if you want to turn on your computer with the power button yes

[rough depot]

kk

[rough depot]

any way to turn on pc without power button?

[elfin trout]

yes, use a screwdriver and just jump the header

[scenic lance]

^

look at the manual to see where that is if you don't know

done this to lots of laptops

[rough depot]

does nzxt h510 come with jfp1 cables

[wanton briar]

Don't buy a NZXT H510

Phanteks P400A, P500A, Lian Li Lancool II Mesh are some cases that are cheaper and have great airflow

[rough depot]

k

[wanton briar]

Corsair 4000D and 5000D are great also

[rough depot]

thanks but i already bought one since im a idiot

and i cant find 1

the cables

[wanton briar]

The cables will be in the back of the case most likely tied up

In the bundle on the left

[rough depot]

ahh thanks

[fierce pivot]

Only the airflow 4000d and 5000d tho, the regulars kinda meh lol

[mild roost]

^

regulars has blocked front

[blazing cedar]

best specs (i have a budget of $3K)

[wanton briar]

Ye I meant to say the airflow version

[fierce pivot]

Ahh g but was just mentioning it incase anyone else saw it etc

That was worded bad but you get me

[light stratus]

Any reccomended 650 watt psus?

[light stratus]

?

[slate creek]

MSI AGF

[light stratus]

Ok thanks

[frank trout]

best case imo

….to burn a house down

[mild roost]

best case is a wooden box you make yourself to start a fire best

make sure it's blocked in every single sides

[frank trout]

lol

[sand atlas]

Put a gigabyte psu in that wooden box as a fire starter

[mild roost]

or evga n1

[blissful thistle]

Or a thermaltake

[slate creek]

Aresgame PSU in a NZXT N1

[scenic lance]

got the psu thinking the case wouldnt be in stock anymore

[scenic lance]

evga g+ is 50$ rn

[scenic lance]

came back in stock the next day 🙃 now i gotta wait llike a dumbass

[odd rapids]

G+ has poorly set OPP (set too high) and poor transient response, no?

CX650 is the same price, rather go for that

[scenic lance]

people here told me to buy the g+

it ranks b tier on ltts list

im p sure the psu is fine

[odd rapids]

Tier lists only give a rough estimate

It’s a good idea to look at independent reviews (if available) or ask someone who knows

Rather buy the CX650 for $50 instead, just to be safe

[scenic lance]

damn

[minor portal]

Analice#6283 has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

[scenic lance]

did i really just buy a crappy psu

[wanton briar]

No

[odd rapids]

No no

Just saying that there are better options rn

It all depends on the specs anyways (which I doubt you’ll be running anything too intense considering it’s a $50 PSU)

[minor portal]

Analice#6283 has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

[scenic lance]

uuuuuuuuuuuuuugh

sorry

RX 570 future planned 3300X (currently 3000G)

[odd rapids]

Yeah you’re all good

[chrome iris]

Isn’t it a rebate tho?

[odd rapids]

Yeah I think so

[chrome iris]

Rebates are a pain

[scenic lance]

is the EVGA SuperNOVA GA 850W good or great

[elfin trout]

meh

[scenic lance]

is it trustworthy?

[odd rapids]

Neither, it’s terrible

[elfin trout]

???

Terrible for what reason?

[fierce pivot]

It's meh, bad price for what it is, get an enermax revolution d.f. for that price(actually less with a rebate) and one of the best power supplies

[elfin trout]

I'm confused at the statement that 'it's terrible'

[fierce pivot]

Me too i mean it's low priority b tier but still b tier, terrible value tho x)

130$ for 850w

[elfin trout]

Ye but it's just not many reviews b tier

Not b tier with a problem

[fierce pivot]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[elfin trout]

Tbh I was too lazy to answer the trustworthy question because it's annoying to answer every time

[fierce pivot]

Lol

[elfin trout]

But trustworthyness is weird

EVGA is a big brand

They will do RMAs

You can trust them to do RMAs

[fierce pivot]

Yep great at rmas

[elfin trout]

You can trust the PSU to not blow up

[fierce pivot]

Indeed

[elfin trout]

But beyond that? I can't tell you if you can trust the PSU to do specific things

And you can't infer trustworthiness of a product from the brand

[fierce pivot]

Yep but ¯_(ツ)_/¯

[elfin trout]

Well, for brands that make at least 1 decent product

[outer folio]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/769034089557655553/859993196540329984/unknown.png

Bad voltage reg becos of the few 12v mosfets

Also transients issues

[fierce pivot]

https://tenor.com/view/bbtyler-tyler-crispen-the-hollywood-reporter-tangela-bbtangela-gif-13020115

[scenic lance]

I’m trying to get 750-850 so I can future proof my pc with running into wattage problems like not having enough watts

[fierce pivot]

Then get an msi agf or enernax revolution d.f. 750w or 850w

[scenic lance]

When you said enermax revolution d.f. Did you mean this?

[fierce pivot]

Yup

[scenic lance]

It’s not cheeper lol

[fierce pivot]

It is, the supernova is 130$?

[scenic lance]

As well as the ff

*df

[fierce pivot]

https://pcpartpicker.com/mr/newegg/CQNgXL it's cheaper on newegg

[scenic lance]

Oh

Thanks

[fierce pivot]

Np

The revolution is a lot better too

[elfin trout]

Seems pretty recent, did he get the review out yet?

[outer folio]

don't think he does reviews anymore

[scenic lance]

Does having more watts then your supposed to have for your pc bad or ok?

[elfin trout]

More watts is okay

But sad if he doesn't do reviews anymore

[haughty field]

I just bought this case and there is a big gap between the glass and metal on the side panel https://www.amazon.com/dp/B072F29JP4/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_glt_fabc_3DRACHSNPBAHXM7C9W10?_encoding=UTF8&psc=1

Should I try to return it

[wanton briar]

You did buy a case that usually is $20, there are going to be quality control issues

[fierce pivot]

^ you could try rma it but it is a 30$ case tbh

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/Pdprxr/deepcool-matrexx-30-microatx-mini-tower-case-matrexx-30 if you do rma and get money back my i reccomend spending the extra 10$ for this

at least it has some airflow too

[odd rapids]

Well future proof doesn’t really work out like most people think it does

People tried “future proofing” by getting 850w V2 Focus gold and look how that turned out haha

[scenic lance]

True

[frank trout]

is evga a good psu brand

[odd rapids]

Judge based on model, not brand

They make like 4-5 good models lol, everything else isn’t too good

[frank trout]

what about 750 gt supernova by evga

or a rm750

[odd rapids]

GT is fine, JG recently tested it

But the price has jumped

[odd rapids]

Revolution D.F is better value, GF1 PE, Phanteks Amp

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/dJmFf7/thermaltake-toughpower-gf1-pe-750-w-80-gold-certified-fully-modular-atx-power-supply-ps-tpd-0750fnfagu-1

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/fq4BD3/phanteks-amp-750-w-80-gold-certified-fully-modular-atx-power-supply-ph-p750g_us01

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/mQDkcf/super-flower-leadex-iii-gold-750-w-80-gold-certified-fully-modular-atx-power-supply-sf-750f14hg

HCG is also priced well

[frank trout]

ic ty

[odd rapids]

Np

[ruby wedge]

Limited-time deal: Thermaltake V200 Tempered Glass RGB Edition 12V MB Sync Capable ATX Mid-Tower Chassis with 3 120mm 12V RGB Fan + 1 Black 120mm Rear Fan Pre-Installed CA-1K8-00M1WN-01 https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07FL1D5RV/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_glt_fabc_dl_94RWTHT9B2Q3JWRG6QYX

Would this be a good case?

[mild roost]

eh nah

Glass front means instant no

[weary vine]

4000d non airflow has glass front

Still a very solid case

Almost as good as the airflow

[mild roost]

ik but that one is bad

[outer folio]

4000d non airflow is not glass

[fierce pivot]

It does for power supplies

[fierce pivot]

Thats 4000x not 4000d non airflow

[fierce pivot]

Also it isn't solid glass, has 2 slits in each side for air

[weary vine]

Ahh yep

[weary vine]

Still glass tbf

[fierce pivot]

Indood

[hollow gale]

the no airflow is bad

[fierce pivot]

They meant the 4000x

[hollow gale]

dude said "almost as good as the airlfow"

[fierce pivot]

^

[hollow gale]

difference is glass or plastic front between 4000d and 4000x. airflow will be the same

[fierce pivot]

4000x has better fan config

[hollow gale]

even with standardised fan configuration, that solid front puts the 4000d/4000x in the lower end

[fierce pivot]

4000x actually performs in between the 4000d and 4000d airlfow

[hollow gale]

have you got data on that?

[hollow gale]

thats not standardised, and doesnt show the solid D

[fierce pivot]

They said fan speeds at 100% with 4.6ghz oc on 9900k 75% gpu fan speed

[hollow gale]

oof... bottom of the pile

[fierce pivot]

Ntb for people who despise the mesh look tho

Like it's 3c diff

[hollow gale]

you mean maniacs? 😆

[fierce pivot]

Yes

[weary vine]

No

I like the look of the X more than airflow

[fierce pivot]

@hollow gale autocorrect xP

[weary vine]

it looks more clean

[fierce pivot]

It does look nice tbf

I only recommend it to ppl with Trypophobia x)

[weary vine]

Oh that is the one thing that grosses me out

[fierce pivot]

Hehe

[odd rapids]

Not necessarily

Look at my message after this ^

[fierce pivot]

okay well you definitely can with a good unit

[odd rapids]

Most of the time, you most likely will be able to

But it’s not a 100% type of thing

[fierce pivot]

Fair point

[odd rapids]

Cause you know what happened with the whole V2 Seasonic platform situation, right?

[fierce pivot]

Nope what happened with it?

[odd rapids]

The whole transient issue with ampere

[fierce pivot]

Ahh i didn't actually hear bout that

[odd rapids]

People thought it had to do with the POSCAP’s on the cards causing black screens and such but it was an issue with the Seasonic V2 platform

In response, they released a V3 platform

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/769034089557655553/802264731435532288/unknown.png

[fierce pivot]

Ohh i see

[odd rapids]

It had to do with misconfigured OCP and ripple issues

But yeah, people would buy the 850w but when Ampere released and they had these issues, future-proof went down the drain

[fierce pivot]

Touche

[odd rapids]

But again, it’s not like “Oh yeah! This will always happen!” But you get my point haha

[fierce pivot]

Yeye i getcha

[honest spindle]

Hey what is the smallest case that can still fit atx form factor parts? I’m thinking of downsizing my case size as much as possible without changing other parts

[fierce pivot]

probs something like a meshify c, what case do you have now

[honest spindle]

Lancool 2 mesh

I’m just seeing if there are smaller cases

Thoughts?

[sand atlas]

It's hard to do smaller than something like the meshify c unless you're willing to go for a wider case or sacrifice cooling capacity

[fierce pivot]

You don't happen to have an matx motherboard do you? Smallest would probs be a meshify c or p360a type case