#cases-psu-and-cooling
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3090 strix and 5950x build, arctic freezer II AIO for CPU, no custom loops
I'm down to the Cooler Master C700M, Thermaltake View 71, Be quiet! Darkbase Pro 900 Rev 2
Hm, P500a would probably be classified as full tower
Uhh
The reason I like them is because they're chart toppers
In terms of thermals
I don't really know about full towers having better thermals than mid towers though...
Well, there's more space for circulation, it's pretty obvious lol
plus they can accommodate 40mm radiators easier with a fat GPU like a 90 strix
You also have less control over where the air is going
It is not hybrid
Oh you're just talking rads in general
yea
strix cooler is a beast, so I don't need a custom loop for it
but I still like the freedom and looks of a full tower case
I really like the c700m, but it's pricy
ooo
Lucky for us
all of those cases have GN reviews
so let's dig through the thermal numbers
trust me, I've been up and down them already
lol
But his testing methods don't apply to my decision
he didn't use an AIO on the cpu's
they were all air cooled tests, so any of these cases will probably be fine
hm?
jay just built an amd machine in the c700m, and he had trouble mounting a 420 mm radiator on the top, yet other's did it. So I don't know...
Using an AIO vs Air cooler doesn't change much for airflow imo
Well, not for the CPU, but the GPU remains air cooled, but I have a strix cooler
Hell, let's just look at GPU torture torture test then
so it's hard to extrapolate
I was looking for manual for DIYPC Solo-T2-R but could not even access the website. Please post if you have any sucess.
I guess it's a bit harder to extrapolate for aio thermals, but GPU thermals would apply
But imo CPU thermals for aio and air cooler are affect by the same airflow patterns, so it would apply
Well, the CPU heat is dissipated through the radiator
in air cooled, the cpu heat is part of the overall circulation inside the case
What are the main differences between iCUE 220T RGB Airflow Tempered Glass Mid-Tower Smart Case — White and 4000d airflow
My Opinion is this: Both Air cooled and AIO (top mount, as usual mount) gets fresh air from front intake, and the warm air goes out back/top.
just went from i5 9400f to i5 9600k and 20gb ram to 32gb and got a liquid cooler
wrong spot sorry
220 doesn't have great airflow, and the 4000 is a bit larger i think and much better case
for those who have experience with cablemod, should i go modflex or modmesh?
airflow on the fractal design meshify c?
Decently good stock, quite good after you add another fan or two to the front.
PCs are supposed to have extra cables coming from the power supply, right?
I bought an SSD and a Sata cable for it, but I'm a little worried about the power cable
there should be SATA power cables
it will
Hey, I'm looking for a good atx case that has decent thermals, looks sick, and is pretty quiet. Any suggestions??
Ill check those out. Thanks!
coooler master td500 mesh or H500
hi hi hi
looking for a cheap but good case
Any suggestions
mATX
ATX
Any works
Anyone in here have white cases?
Wanna know how dirty they can get cause they look nicer than the black cases
@limpid cove
I have used the corsair 4000d white and it does not really get dirty
they are just hard plastic, and they actually show less dust than black cases
most scuffs show more on black anyway
@mellow timber what MOBO and GPU are u useing?
I personally like to have a case that is just big enough for looks
Hm ok thanks for the insight
Imr
*ikr
It's 520 on amazon tho
Posted newegg link since newegg posts better pics and specs
@tulip brook yes, I have experience with the define C and really like it, very easy to build in and everything feels solid. It does not have preinstalled standoffs, but most cases dont I just got used to being lazy lol. but, if you have high-end hot running components Im would opt for a meshify
Triple checking, I know it should be ok, but I can run an i5-10400 and 3060 TI off a 550w, right? Exact model is the Antec Neo Eco Gold 550w
Should be OK
I mean considering I saw tech yes city run a 3070 off a 450w today should be fine lol
Just because you CAN doesn't mean you SHOULD lol
would I be able to put a matx mobo in a atx mid tower
Yep
okay awesome
If you wanna see what it looks like
Here’s a really really small MATX board in an ATX case
what is that case lol
Better question: What is that SSD?
Teamgroup loves to use “graphic design is my passion” labels for their drives
Ok so i do salvage and a while ago I found an old gaming PC with an antec truepower quattro 850-watt. It is caked with dust inside but seems to power a 3080 just fine- should I worry about the dust?

Dust usually means old too. With an old PSU that I don't know off the top of my head, idk
Yeah
Yeah, not sure i'd trust my $800 GPU to that
Can't look it up rn cuz no PC
Also i havent seen u too much hei
School stuff 1+ weeks ago. Now I'm tired
Well, been tired since throughout school
Just doing the eternal rest
by not being eternal at all and actually barely resting
but my PC be broken and need fixing
What broke 
GPU, one of the caps went bye bye
Lmao what board partner
Snapped it off while trying to take a water block off, EKWB be finicky IG. Was EVGA
Oh lmao i thought it just blew up
the bolt got screwed on the other side and had trouble taking it off
I can, and probs will at some point
Is the only difference between seasonic gx and gm the modularity? If so, is it worth spending 20$ more for fully modular?
But rn being really really dumb with glue cuz I'm lazy and want to break it more or smth idk
GLUE
What 
It's easier, and thus my very terrible ideal solution
This is why I can say I'm fake techie, welp
Lmao true
$1400 and you get a 2060
I got on sale, so $1060
plus msi isnt even a top tier brand
But where in the case is the psu and how do I access it
ikr
at least its dual channel memory
thats like
prebuilt 101

trash tier pc but cool case
and wowie it has rgb!!!!!
This right?
yes
thank you
Also, anyone know any good websites where I can enter my specs and it would tell me recommended wattage
Uh
550w is good bet depending on cpu
600W to be safe
Is there any downside to a greater wattage psu besides price
No. Just wasted money
Okay, thank you 🙂
yw
240gb Team L3 evo lol. Pretty much cheapest 240gb SSD. $180 build so needed cheap cheap cheap
yes to both
Is silverstone a good psu brand
What are some good cases that can fit a 360 rad on top ?
Most atx cases fit them
is the EVGA 220-G3-0750-X1 Supernova G3 750W Fully Modular Power Supply a good one?
ok
also is this a good case for the price?https://www.ebay.com/itm/darkFlash-DLM21-White-Mini-ITX-MicroATX-Tower-Computer-Case-Power-Supply-Kits/274542594559?var=574748997529
Features:
Case Size : 376208405mm
Packing Size :472282455mm
Material: Chassis :0.6mm SPCC
N.W :4.9KG
G.W :5.8KG
Motherboard :M-ATX, ITX
HDD / SSD :3 or 2 / 2 or 1
Expansion Slots :4
Max. VGA card :350 / 330mm
Max. CPU Cooler :160mm
Power Supply :210mm, Bottom
FRONT I/O : USB 3.0 (x1) / USB 2.0(x2) ...
not really
ok 65 dollars
is there any atx ones?
the one you linked wasnt ATX...
oh i thought it was
Lol
i guess not
The fractal design meshify c is a good case it might still be about $65 with the holiday sale
i have a matx
It only comes with 2 of the fans though
i like a case that hides the psu
Oh psu shroud right
yup
What’s your case budget?
55-65
is that fine?
ok thx
There’s also a white one fyi
@sinful hamlet beware that case has the worst cable management ive ever seen, and its pretty small so not too long of GPUs for you.
Other than that its a nice case. Used it before
witch one?
can anyone explain the difference between the EVGA supernova models and which ones I should be looking to get?
Theres GA, G5, G3, GT, G+ and I really don't know what I'm looking at at this point lol
G2, P2, PS and T2 are Fantastic
G3 GT PG is great
B3, G/G1 G5 GD are good also
GA is also good
Stay away from BT, B, BV, GS 550/650, and a few others
Power supply tier list here https://linustechtips.com/topic/1116640-psucultists-psu-tier-list/
PSU Tier List 4.0 rev. 14.6 Last Update: 29-11-2020 Gray - EoL / obsolete. Generally not recommended for purchase since its going to be pre-owned, refurbished or old stock. Green - small form-factor (gold and blue colors are disregarded due to scarcity of SFX PSUs) Gold - best units in the tier (...
thanks a lot
https://www.amazon.com/ARESGAME-Supply-Bronze-Certified-AGV500/dp/B08CXVKP3M/
Is this worth buying?
Anybody know anything about poweron times for PSU's? I'm currently looking at the Superflower Leadex III, which a reviewer said was very good except for the high poweron time (250ms), which could render it incompatable with some motherboards
Is this nitpicking or something I should actually consider
whoa bud
nuh uh
so many wrong units
those aren't even great
B3- DC-DC + LLC on >= 650w units, OPP is set too high, the unit gets too hot (missing a side cap), and inrush current is really bad (worse than BQ), sleeve bearing, and blew up in Aris' testing and is Hot garbage.
EVGA G3 is a good unit, its protections are set very very poorly to the point where it can melt.
G1 isn't a good option considering the price most of the time. It is built off similar to the GQ platform which like I have explained before, is not good at all for its price (OTP could be hit or miss depending on wattage of unit). When crossloading the 5v, it moves to 2% tolerance
G5 line, didn't pay much attention to the fan speed profile, so the 750 G5 is noisy. Moreover, its vampire power exceeds 0.25W with 230V input, so it fails to meet even the lowest Cybenetics efficiency standard (ETA-S).
GA is built off the Andyson PAD01 platform (https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1gvdzGayzU0KNCSpKu9BL44_Mveh8tRhU) which is DC-DC + LLC. It claims to have all the protections, but they're not tested and is on the list of not to be paired with ampere
so many not good PSU's there
@opal night
Yeah... I just bought an 850w superflower so I can forget about all that crap lol
Way too complicated for a noober like me
Excuse me
Do you mean inrush current?
And which review is this?
Or do you mean hold up time
Hold up time is measured in milliseconds
Reason: Bad word usage
ok I keep forgetting
And the weird thing is Hold-up time represents the amount of time, usually measured in milliseconds, a PSU can maintain output regulations and the higher is better
I think he meant inrush current but who uses milliseconds as a unit for inrush current?
This reviewer you saw doesn’t seem to know what he’s doing
@fallow cairn he said power on time, and I think that’s what he meant since he used separate benchmarks for inrush current and holdup time. Apparently most psu manufacturers try to aim for a power on time under 100ms?
Apparently this is the one and only worry he had about the psu but I have no idea what this benchmark means lol
I guess it is referring to amount of time until a specified load delivery from 0 but I don’t know what it means when the guy says it could mess with motherboard compatibility
I’m even more confused now the online breakdown on techpowerup mentions the power on time for the ARGB version of the psu but not the normal kind even though they’re the same thing
PWR_OK which is not good for ASM but should not be a problem for most motherboards
@fallow cairn what is ASM? Sorry lol I’m just trying to do my own research and idk what it stands for.
Is EVGA BR good?
not even 3060 ti
unless he has bought it
actually even if he has it, I would ask him to refund it if possible
alternative sleep mode
nope don't take it
Double forward topology,low tier/quality capacitors and cheap fan bearing, 30c temperature rating and no in-depth teardown reviews
Hb a cxm 650w?
No

good, don't take it
Yeah Ik I don’t trust @fallow cairn
Hb I block you
was just trying to help
lmao stop being so mad 
and vintage did u see that leadex deal
I'd be surprised if someone didn't 
@fallow cairn what is alternative sleep mode? Minor detail or something important?
https://www.newegg.com/enermax-marblebron-emb550awt-550w/p/N82E16817194138?Item=N82E16817194138
Its rather new, any thoughts or tier ranks? Saw enermax was a bit mixed
when putting in my mobo should i use th emetal washers on the screws for my mobo?
Minor
don’t even worry about it
Ok thanks a lot!
By the way, I just got a leadex iii gold. How do you like yours?
I don’t have one 
I have a DQ-M as of now, planning to buy a leadex for my next build 
Np
yall I need a good psu for a good price
good price depends on your budget
start with providing that and someone will be able to help
Phanteks amp 750w another option
my budget is ~800 dollars
for the whole pc
https://www.newegg.com/evga-supernova-650-ga-220-ga-0650-x1-650w/p/1HU-00J7-004V5
would this be a good one?
do I need more watts though?
No but it’s nice to have and you’ll probably thank yourself later for putting in an extra 10-20$ for 100 more watts
Since you’ll be investing in something you would be able to use more reliably, for longer, and possibly in a different build
ok thanks
this, psus get carried from build to build more than almost everything rlse
newegg is reliable? I want to buy a case for my build but it has glass, is there any chance that it will arrive broken? because Wont be able to check the state in which it is
@tulip brook you can get the phantex amp (above) and the seasonic GM 750 is another good choice
Or the unit i sent
^
Which is better than all units mentioned
I just got a leadex iii 850 very excited for it to last me 10 years
anyone got any suggestions for a decently priced Full-Tower case? I've been looking and only found ones in the higher $200 and $300's
yo i got a supernova g3 750 watt psu fully modular for so cheap

it is alr
people say that it is good
Speaking of which, I gotta wait until the 11th for Amazon to ship my SuperNOVA G+, but Newegg has them in stock 😠
Thinking about just cancelling it and ordering from Newegg
They havent shipped, so it'd just be a cancellation, not a refund
yeah but you paid for it
How good is the Montech Beta power supply (specifically the 650w bronze variant)
Tier D, would not recommend
What if it’s powering 3100 and 1650S
My friend is using it
Will it be ok though
Should be at least 3 years right
Crucial SSDS?
no he means the actual word crucial
If I get a 3080 with 3x 8-pin connections for power, would a Corsair RM 850watt be able to cover that? Does it also include 3x 6+2 cables?
is rgb worth it?
no
seems like a pain to have to get adapters or a hub for my case atleast
is this case good? I've already somewhat decided just want opinions. https://www.newegg.com/black-phanteks-eclipse-p600s-atx-mid-tower/p/N82E16811854083
@grim violet i can tell you I like it
Very easy to build in and good temps
But maybe look at the lancool as well
now I'm worried cause it doesnt have a top dust filter and reviews say the fans are lacking :/
It’s real good
As a unit
But protections set terribly poorly
How good is the enermax revolution df 850?
Tier C, not bad, not good
@opal night Revolution D.F. is a Gold Tier A multi rail unit..?
And DF rocks

The message was sent a minute ago, you haven't learned well enough >:D
@opal night go get some sleep
(Dats why you need to get some sleep)
Don’t go solely by tier list either 
Who do you work for?
Croocial
Figures
Looking at the Corsair hx 850 platinum for a 3090 strix and 5950x build
Should be fine yea?
Basic OC and stock will be fine. Major OC will probs not have enough wattage
would 550w work for this setup
CPU Ryzen 5 3500x
GPU GTX 1650
Storage seagate barracuda 1tb hdd
optional storage 480gb kingstone ssd
Motherboard Asus Prime B450m-a
Ram ddr4 8gb 2400mhz hyper x fury black (x2)
Case Aerocool Cylon Black RGB
wdym
If the calculator says you need a 500W power supply, get a 550-600W
Don't get right at the calculator
450 watt then. The smaller wattage power supplies tend to be low quality or a different form factor
Now
You planning to upgrade any time in the future?
budget?
Corsair CX600 is pretty much always in stock
Not in the US
under 140
EU has weird stock
sa
Ah
Oh ok so that's why things are out of stock
yea
Ok, well, let's sling a couple out there then
ima look at corsair
Corsair CX for sure
NOT CX-M
im trying to go for a modular one
There is the CX600 and the CX600M the M is for modular
CX-M is rated lower for some reason
I've never had an issue with it idk why that would be. I have 3 friend that use a CX-M psu and have had them for over 4 years at this point
Reason: Bad word usage

Yea so that is Corsair's CX-M series of PSUs in a 650w capacity
From these cases what would be the best choice for overall good airflow and easy future upgrading? 1. https://www.newegg.com/black-fractal-design-meshify-s2-atx-mid-tower/p/N82E16811352103 2. https://www.newegg.com/black-fractal-design-meshify-2-xl-atx-full-tower/p/N82E16811352136 3. https://www.newegg.com/black-phanteks-eclipse-p600s-atx-mid-tower/p/N82E16811854083
I mean it's Tier C that's all, if that is readily available it'd be fine
btw
is it bad to have bronze
i was going for gold protection but i found some rn
but theyre like 10 times more expensive
Nope Bronze/Gold is the ideal rating for a PSU
Anything above and it just doesnt give enough benifits IMO to be worth it
Bronze is fine
Bronze/Gold isn't an indicator of quality
i know
Yea it's only the power efficency
Just power efficieny from the wall to your PC
It's typically Bronze/Gold/Titanium or Platinum
80+, Bronze, Silver, Gold, Plat, Titanium
IMO for the $150 USD price point for all of these cases they aren't really worth it. Out of the 3 I would say the Fractal Design Meshify 2 has the best airflow since the entire front is a mesh front pannel allowing the most air through the front. Sure you can mount some fans on the top but better to have a good amount of air coming in from the front since it will be going directly over the GPU.
well all 3 have an open mesh front
PWM is the ability to control a fans speed correct? If I were to have 6 PWM fans (3 for front intake, 2 on the top for outtake, and 1 on the rear for outtake) would I be able to group them and control only certian ones speeds? Like make the front 3 spin at 1700rpm while the back spin slower
motherboard probably won't have that many fan connectors
You'll need a PWM fan hub
Most motherboards only have 4 fan connectors, sometimes less
But with a hub or two, you can control them individually, yes
For just speed or RGB too?
speed I dont care for rgb
I would avoid the Arctics because they have a fluid bearing inside. The seals are very syusceptible to dust and once the seal is gone, the fluid leaks out and the fan is ruined
the phanteks are more expensive but in terms of cooling, speeds, and sounds idk
Go with Sealed bearing or Magnetic Levitiation bearings
Back to the fans
For the hub, you'd put the front fans in the hub and connect to motherboard port
For the other fans, just connect to motherboard. Then you'll be able to control front and everything else separately
mmmm
cause the phanteks have "rifle" bearings idk if thats good
it's not ideal but you will pay more for the different bearing types
yeah idk what bearings are good. I just want fans thatll work well and wont break fast
Honestly the Rifle bearings will be fine
What’s a good psu or should I get the segotep 700W
leadex
@drowsy flame it is a decently sized mid tower case- it should fit any standard ATX board and mainstream GPUs. Unless you are doing hardline watercooling, it fits everything well
What cases do you guys recommend? I’m looking for something silent with good airflow.
Tuf b365m plus and nvidia gtx 1660 ti
Cooler is stock and budget less than $150
ok that is an matx board
this is tame, but GN loved it and it is pretty much full mesh. i personally like to have a case just big enough for the MOBO for looks and this looks good
what cpu/budget?
Intel i7-9700F, no budget
dark rock pro 4 >:((((
Nice, I’ll check it out
Because it’s way worse than CX
It’s on a completely different platform
CXM uses two designs. 450-650 uses a CWT codename Santana, whereas 750-850 uses PUQ-B. These are low end double forward platforms
, no OTP on prior 2015 versions, OTP set too high on newer CXM version to where the capacitors can degrade, sleeve bearing fan, and also has the same issues as CV with high-transient/peak power GPUs, making it not favorable to any Big Navi, Ampere etc..
okay guys, I’m trying to decide between a evga g5 750w and RM750x
what do i get? (my build: Ryzen 9 3900xt and 3070)
Both are quality PSUs. Whatever is on sale is fine
Leadex?
Is this a good psu?
Yes
Yeah, would go with EVGA
K thankss
@scenic lance neither
The Segotep is garbage (don’t take modular Segotep) and EVGA GT is a HEC TPK though it is supposedly below the Cougar GX-F which is on the same platform. No information is known other than that.
Oop
RMX any day
G5 doesn’t stand a chance
oh really I’ve heard that most corsair psu’s are kinda bad quality and evga and seasonic are better but i just wanna make sure i get the overall better one
Anybody know some unique cases? Like the Antec Torque ATX Mid and Cougar Conquer 2?
don’t go by Brand’s lol and forget everything you have heard about psu’s up till this point

lol
okay some im new to pcs so like dont mind any stupidity please but in there difference in an atx powersupply purely in size or is there something else?
Is this case great for cooling? Any input about it would be great. https://www.newegg.com/p/N82E16811147227?Item=N82E16811147227&cm_sp=Dailydeal_SS-_-11-147-227-_-12292020
looks like it should be ok
Yea it has a mesh front pannel so should be ok
But do you need that two PSU bays and the 5.25" bays?
not really but i do like the old school look.
any recommendation on a similar case without the front bays?
The Corsair 220T would be a pretty similar option in a lot smaller form factor. The case you sent earlier is very tall.
The 220T has the mesh Top/Front as well as a spot in the rear for a single fan
i was thinking it was tall as well, thanks for the input
@sinful hamlet Future reference, cancelled orders dont require a refund
okay went ahead with the rm850x cause it was the only corsair psu in stock with a reasonable price, thanks
np
whats a good case under 60 dollars
montech x1
ok ty
Not for a guy who actually prefers to control their fans
its a 50$ case
Yh it’s similar to the montech X1 except it looks like a thing dropped out of 2012
true
lol
i dont need the best cooling i have a 1070 ti and upgrading to a 9400f
i just need something better than this https://www.newegg.com/p/N82E16811353150?Description=diypc solo t2&cm_re=diypc_solo t2-_-11-353-150-_-Product
Metallic gear Neo air
Doesn’t need one
Nice
thanks btw
Anyone know where I can find the Vertical GPU mount kit for a Lian Li O11 mini? It's listed on the description but I havent been able to find one
advertised as an optional accessory here:
@shut helm have a chat with lian li
not listed anywhere, model#: O11DMINI-1X when it does go live. prob when it gets closer to 1/13 on release day.
Hi guys! so, i was planning my next build for when my 3070 will arrive (so probably not before February) and i'm looking for a case. I wanted to use the artic freezer 50 for its stunning looks and performance, and because i need a lot of cooling since i will probably use a 3900x. By looking around i found out the in win 303 and i instantly loved it. air flow is good, and the look is perfect for what i have in mind. My problem is that it cannot support the freezer 50 since it is 166 (6mm higher than the max supported cooler height). So either i change the case, but i can't find any options with a similar look (mind that i can't compromise on airflow), or i change the cooler, but i loose all the wow factor i was searching for the inside of my machine... Any suggestion? I love clean panels like the 303 or the o11d, but either of those have a max height for the cooler too low...
im looking at inwin 303 and i don't see how it has good airflow
there are some fractal and bequiet cases that have solid front panels that should have similar looks
i adore be quiet but their cases focus on like
being quiet
for the most part at least
very poor airflow because theyre designed for silent systems
That 303 is H510 or worse
The dx500 is mesh tho
NO thanks
And still has some padded panels to reduce echoes and stuff
Anybody know a good wattage calculator?
Is an 850 watt enough for a 5900x and a 3080?
yes and im saying MOST OF THEIR OLDER CASES (for the most part) are designed for silent usage and airflow is just not considered
higher wattage PSUs will go down in price overtime right?
Is there any downside to getting a high volt wattage for a low volt system besides price
none at all
i tell ppl to go overkill on psu so they have upgrade room
psu often is the thing that comes with you the most
What would I need for like, a 3090
id say nothing below 1k
1200 should be good for the next 5-ish years right?
hey guys do u think i should get the phanteks eclispe p360a or the lancool 2 mesh
lancool 2 will have better temps
Really really terrible 
Capacitors on the secondary side are unknown, capacitors on the filtering output are literally new, Yate Loon (D12SH-12) rifle bearing while Gigabyte claims a fluid bearing, the primary side (APFC) mosfets blew up during testing, OPP and OCP are not set properly, poor (3.3v too ) 12v transient response, low efficiency, power-ok signal not accurate, and doesn't meet v2.52 ATX spec 
`During the OPP (cold) evaluation, the PSU died, so I couldn't finish all tests. How did it die? I increased the load on all rails until the PSU shut down as it should. I left it to cool down and tried to restart it after five minutes, but was treated with fireworks and a loud bang. I had pushed its cheap primary switching FETs too far, so Gigabyte should lower the OPP and +12 V OCP triggering points.’ 

yeeeaaahhh
was thinking about keeping with 3070 since it was bundle but
doubting a psu is never a good thing
unfortunate that I returned it and had to lose 30 dollars
kind of sucks since if you buy the bundle and realize the psu is garbage and return it you end up spending 620 dollars on a frickin 3070

makes me really wish I waited for 3060ti release lol
then again my 3070 with tax would be 600 usd so im only losing 20
newegg scalped me for 20 bucks :/
90% of the bundles are trying to get rid of bad stock of subpar ram
and other trash
some of the asus ones are decent for the mobo
I has all that though, just need gpu -_-
lol
I need to YEET this 2060 out of existence, never should have purchased it
all the bundles with oloy ram and 2x ventus cards 
I mean, TBH, Oloy ain't terrible
they have some good sticks its just kind of yucky when its a 2x ventus and 3000mhz
much more worth for a premium card
good on you for waiting though since ti units are dropping
yup
I got mine pretty much through sheer luck and persistence
and it wasnt even worth it in the end
3060ti > 3070 imo
Mmmmm
I'll take that extra 10-15% performance
Might tide me over an extra 6 months to a year
Plus I OC everything I own so......
good point
HOwever, I ain't paying $600 for one of the high end 3070's
if the extra 100 dollars puts me over another year ill be happy
I can do those clocks myself, thanks
with tax where I live a 560 dollar card is 600
so I ended up paying that much anyways
but evga queue is a lot better than newegg for getting a high end card
Funny how in italy we have the 3070 sold for no less than 750$ for the base models. I mean the retail ones and not scalped mind you
Does anyone know difference between 460x and 465x Corsair cases
Cuz I wanted the 465x but only the 460x is available in my area
Is it basically the same thing or is there a difference like worse airflow or sumn?
the 460 is shorter, so be careful for the graphics card
for the airflow i donnow sorry
hey does anyone know how long it takes for cases to arrive?
depends, I just ordered one on 12/24 and it is delivering today. They usually ship ground due to weight.
is there any good budget case with preinstalled fan under $70. I prefer one with 4 pre-installed fans
ATX or MATX
atx
Believe it or not, these are decent cases. There's a white one in #build-pics
That's probably the best for 4 fans at your price point
oh thats exactly what im looking for, thanks!
YW
@robust prism be aware that cable management in that case is just terrible. I’ve used it once. Literally have about 2 inches to route your cables on the right, that’s it
Yeah but for the money and 4 fans, that's about their only choice
It's definitely not the best for cable management for sure
I love the case — it’s just it’s tiny size that ruins it for me
Would definitely pay extra for that little more cable management
Ye. Budget cases always give up some creature comforts
Definitely. My P500A is supposed to be here today
Or at least make the fans ARGB lol. They’re just static 
If UPS decides to deliver it -_-

im not sure about the weight it doesnt really say, but its a mid tower case
damn, oh well its fine tho. Cant really complain for a budget case with 4 fans
@eager monolith this rosewill case is actually exceeding expectations! It’s definitely a bit small, but cable management isn’t bad, and it has holes for CPU power which sometimes I don’t see in even $40 cases. Definitely worth $28. Will work really well for this 1650 + 10100 build
Ya, same here. Would be nice to have more PSU clearance and non-punch out gpu slots, but it's great for $30
What case is that
Ya
Mk
I'm waiting on my ram, but I'll have to send some pictures. Threw in a R5 3600 and a GTX 660
Nice
Cause it's a server so I don't need any gpu power
I have a 1660s I can throw in but I think it'll be a waste. I'll just be remoting in most of the time
Might do it with threadripper or smthn
Facebook?
Hmm
Maybe it is cant really tell
Ya, 32gb of c16 3200mHz for $100
Hm not bad
Lmao I was aboutta say, $200?!!?
Although, you can get totally new for like $10 more...
Oh the little black sticks?
Yeah
No that’s lpx
Lol
I forgot what lpx looks like
These sticks are the white ones
Pair a 1060 with a 1950x maybe
Ooh
XD
I wonder if I can get anything out of my old ddr3. I got 24gbs that I can sell on ebay once I upgrade
Would be nice. would bring the upgrade to like $400
Or less, hold up
Naw, it would be $380
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/TyMzXb
Ya, warehouse deals on amazon
Damaged box, but they make it sound scary
Annd even if it is bad I always got rma... so 🙂
Lol
https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/list/HWk2j2 what’s a good PSU for this build?
OR
What psu wattage is recommended normally for a 3070?
Also what's the difference between corsair's rm and cx psu models? All I'm seeing is efficiency rating. Am I missing something?
Sorry I am smol brain
You are missing google
You're missing manners. I've checked google but couldn't find it and wanted the opinion of a person rather than text on a website
what you looking at Taken?
I'm looking for something around that
went with the leadex iii
850w. Should be plenty of power
EVGA SuperNOVA 650 GT, 80 plus gold or RGB750 Rainbow
I'm an associate at best buy employee discounts
if that second one is what i think it is, then get the evga one @rigid patrol
It's a corsair rm 750
rm750 (2019) is pretty good
haha right? I've got a 3700x...but can't land a GPU
I keep getting told to wait for 5000 series
I think I will if I won't even have a gpu
I digress. This isn't about psus anymore lul
I thought about it. but meh
Of course, if I can't find a GPU, all I've got is a pretty bunch of parts
HOly GEEZ everything runs so much cooler in the P500A lol
If you've got $100 for a case just get one
Or TD500 mesh 😉
P500A is superior cable management. Plus all the screws come in a plastic case, pre-organized.
Not really since it does employ DC-DC conversion on the secondary side but tacts on a double forward circuit on the primary side (prone to transients and possibly whining) that is passively rectified (harms our efficiency even at this platform), 2% voltage tolerance on the 12v rail is pretty high, and not something to be happy for, As promised, it does have a TNB fan. Yes, the fan was indeed hitting the grille in the hot tests, the unit seems to a modification as there is a whole row of capacitors missing on the secondary side, the bridge rectifiers are stabled together (increasing temperature), Teapo SC (low-end Teapo) are seen on the secondary side, and its similarity platform wise to the 850w version, we can assume the same faulty protections are set so not too good
But hey the seasonic focus GM isn’t bad
Nice choice 
Bronze version, but hey
😩
ah I just went by common recommendation that evga bq is good for most systems xd
its looking to me like one of the only good evga models is the g2
you'd be surprised
G2 is not a good that model in comparison with others at the same price point anyways 
still issues with ampere/RDNA2 
I have a client that has a bottom mounted power supply that has a 12 inch cable assembly from the power supply to the motherboard. The failed power supply is a Logisys PS480A12BK, combo ATX and SATA. I have ordered 3 different similar power supplies but all of them have a motherboard cable that is much too short. Does anyone know of a power supply that has a long enough cable? It needs to be a minimum of 11 inches. Thank you!
I've learned recently that evga really just isn't as competitive as corsair and seasonic in psu market...
Evga honestly just good for gpu's
125usd for leadex iii 😳
130usd for 850w Revolution D.F. 
o woah thats good
All I know about Rev D.F. is that its really high on psu tier list lol
I consider it to be a very competitive unit
mua ha ha ha
im sure theyre comparable though
yehe, multi rail does not matter for you anyways unless you pair and overclock a CPU to the max and max out the power delivery on a single PCIe cable
which is not likely 
It doesn't even really matter then
Only place I know it can matter is OCP on larger than 750w PSUs
yeh just add some extra PCIe cables 
Performance wise multi rail vs single rail is basically none (doesn't affect ripple and such as long as the unit itself is good)
So I want to get an exhaust fan that is similar to the td500 mesh included fans, what would be the best choice?
Did I go wrong getting the leadex bronze?
Gotcha. Yeah I'm not doing anything crazy
Probably would have spent the extra $25 for the gold, didn't realize. Ah well
It's meh
Tier C
Won't blow up on you but I wouldn't recommend pushing the limits of wattage
does anyone know what computer cases support ASUS Intel WS X299 SAGE LGA 2066 DDR4 SSI CEB Motherboard (90SW0070-M0EAY0) ?
Find a case that supports E-ATX formfactor
best sfx power supply? (600-650w)
Corsair SF Gold/Platinum, Fractal Design Ion+ SFX-L, Seasonic Focus SGX, Cooler Master V-SFX
is the revolution df not that known just because it is from enermax and not some big brand
@steady walrus products aren't widely known for being good, products are only widely known for being popular. Corsair is a good example
Corsair peripherals are very well known, but they're not good.
the cheapest one out of those
I have a client that has a bottom mounted power supply that has a 12 inch cable assembly from the power supply to the motherboard. The failed power supply is a Logisys PS480A12BK, combo ATX and SATA. I have ordered 3 different similar power supplies but all of them have a motherboard cable that is much too short. Does anyone know of a power supply that has a long enough cable? It needs to be a minimum of 11 inches. Thank you!
just get extensions 
Quick question, what’s the difference between fully modular and modular? Or is it the same? Cause I’m getting a 750w PSU that’s fully modular and compatible with the case I already have but idk if there’s something I’m missing regarding the name meanings
Fully modular means main power cable also modular
Modular means main power cable is hard wired
So the power cable comes with it obviously still, so either way it’s not a huge difference yeah?
Awesome
Just got a ryzen 7 and the PSU so going to pick it up in an hour then get to building 
NOICE
I'm putting together a build with a 3070 and a 5600x, should i get a 650 watt or a 750 watt psu?
Another quick question lol, with fully modular it comes with all the cables for the plugs right?
Yes

uhhh
The rm650x apparently doesn't have an extra 12v connector for the B550-f board
According to pc part picker
Should I be worried?
@drowsy flame u mean the 4pin?
probably not. that is for extreme OCs and is not needed for normal bootup or not as extreme OCs
Man finding the case that for u is hard ngl
Idk how many I’ve looked at by now lol and I still can’t decide
Yes
Thanks, I was worried I wouldn't be able to use the psu
VR, you get your p500a yet?
Not the M550 hanging on for dear life 
lol actually managing ur cables
i just press the back cover on really tight and pray
XD
hehe yeah thatll do it
Xd
Cable management overkill
Alright guys. Whats opinion on a very decent and reliable all round 750w psu. idc about rgb i want reliability will being under 150
pleaseeeeeeeee 😉
what modularity/efficiency rating are you looking for?
I thought my pc had a 500 w which i was gonna wait a bit but i think its only 400w and thats just not gonna cut it so i wanna go ahead and get one rn so im just wanting to make sure i have the least chance of something going wrong lol
I would like full but would def not overlook semi and gold is preferable
But semi is a minimum
Im really drawn to the supernovas for some reason
Thanks man just placced the order.
Reason: Bad word usage
Itll be nice i got that pus and i been running off 240gb ssd boot drive but i also picked up an nvme today so ill beable to install and boot off of that and i can give the ssd to my ole lady ill throw it in her hp all in one since thats all running off a 5400 mech drive lol
psu**
Are nxt cases good quality
nzxt cases are bad airflow so I don't like em
And look similar to which specific case?
gawd no
Everyone wants the 510
none of em really
Ok
I'll drop a few here


