#cases-psu-and-cooling

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drowsy grail
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I'm having a tough time choosing a case

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3090 strix and 5950x build, arctic freezer II AIO for CPU, no custom loops

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I'm down to the Cooler Master C700M, Thermaltake View 71, Be quiet! Darkbase Pro 900 Rev 2

elfin trout
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Td500 mesh/P500a/Lancool ii mesh @drowsy grail

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:)

drowsy grail
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Are those all full tower?

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And why are you recommending those in particular?

elfin trout
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Uh, is there a particular reason for full tower?

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Good airflow

drowsy grail
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I like them

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Plus, generally better thermals vs. midtower cases

elfin trout
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Hm, P500a would probably be classified as full tower

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Uhh

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The reason I like them is because they're chart toppers

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In terms of thermals

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I don't really know about full towers having better thermals than mid towers though...

drowsy grail
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Well, there's more space for circulation, it's pretty obvious lol

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plus they can accommodate 40mm radiators easier with a fat GPU like a 90 strix

elfin trout
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You also have less control over where the air is going

drowsy grail
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just depends on the fan setup

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that's easy

elfin trout
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Is 3090 strix hybrid?

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Can't think of the word, but like air current

drowsy grail
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It is not hybrid

elfin trout
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Oh you're just talking rads in general

drowsy grail
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yea

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strix cooler is a beast, so I don't need a custom loop for it

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but I still like the freedom and looks of a full tower case

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I really like the c700m, but it's pricy

elfin trout
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ooo

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Lucky for us

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all of those cases have GN reviews

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so let's dig through the thermal numbers

drowsy grail
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trust me, I've been up and down them already

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lol

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But his testing methods don't apply to my decision

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he didn't use an AIO on the cpu's

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they were all air cooled tests, so any of these cases will probably be fine

elfin trout
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hm?

drowsy grail
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jay just built an amd machine in the c700m, and he had trouble mounting a 420 mm radiator on the top, yet other's did it. So I don't know...

elfin trout
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Using an AIO vs Air cooler doesn't change much for airflow imo

drowsy grail
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Well, not for the CPU, but the GPU remains air cooled, but I have a strix cooler

elfin trout
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Hell, let's just look at GPU torture torture test then

drowsy grail
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so it's hard to extrapolate

proper peak
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I was looking for manual for DIYPC Solo-T2-R but could not even access the website. Please post if you have any sucess.

elfin trout
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I guess it's a bit harder to extrapolate for aio thermals, but GPU thermals would apply

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But imo CPU thermals for aio and air cooler are affect by the same airflow patterns, so it would apply

drowsy grail
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Well, the CPU heat is dissipated through the radiator

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in air cooled, the cpu heat is part of the overall circulation inside the case

scenic lance
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What are the main differences between iCUE 220T RGB Airflow Tempered Glass Mid-Tower Smart Case — White and 4000d airflow

elfin trout
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My Opinion is this: Both Air cooled and AIO (top mount, as usual mount) gets fresh air from front intake, and the warm air goes out back/top.

scenic lance
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just went from i5 9400f to i5 9600k and 20gb ram to 32gb and got a liquid cooler

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wrong spot sorry

young osprey
vast cloak
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for those who have experience with cablemod, should i go modflex or modmesh?

coarse moss
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airflow on the fractal design meshify c?

elfin trout
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Decently good stock, quite good after you add another fan or two to the front.

scenic lance
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PCs are supposed to have extra cables coming from the power supply, right?

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I bought an SSD and a Sata cable for it, but I'm a little worried about the power cable

young osprey
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there should be SATA power cables

scenic lance
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That's good

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I'm hoping my power supply has those

low scaffold
magic dune
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Hey, I'm looking for a good atx case that has decent thermals, looks sick, and is pretty quiet. Any suggestions??

young osprey
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Lian Li Lancool2 Mesh

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phanteks p400 or p500a

magic dune
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Ill check those out. Thanks!

young osprey
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coooler master td500 mesh or H500

opal night
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H500 has poopy airflow

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Pls no

sharp bear
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Got me an evolv x this christmas Nice

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Didnt realize it was a literal tank

mellow timber
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hi hi hi

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looking for a cheap but good case

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Any suggestions

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mATX

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ATX

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Any works

limpid cove
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Anyone in here have white cases?

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Wanna know how dirty they can get cause they look nicer than the black cases

edgy tiger
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@limpid cove

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I have used the corsair 4000d white and it does not really get dirty

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they are just hard plastic, and they actually show less dust than black cases

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most scuffs show more on black anyway

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@mellow timber what MOBO and GPU are u useing?

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I personally like to have a case that is just big enough for looks

limpid cove
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Hm ok thanks for the insight

elfin trout
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holy

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price

scenic lance
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Imr

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*ikr

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It's 520 on amazon tho

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Posted newegg link since newegg posts better pics and specs

edgy tiger
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@tulip brook yes, I have experience with the define C and really like it, very easy to build in and everything feels solid. It does not have preinstalled standoffs, but most cases dont I just got used to being lazy lol. but, if you have high-end hot running components Im would opt for a meshify

chrome iris
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Triple checking, I know it should be ok, but I can run an i5-10400 and 3060 TI off a 550w, right? Exact model is the Antec Neo Eco Gold 550w

opal night
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Should be OK

chrome iris
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I mean considering I saw tech yes city run a 3070 off a 450w today should be fine lol

opal night
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Just because you CAN doesn't mean you SHOULD lol

tulip brook
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would I be able to put a matx mobo in a atx mid tower

chrome iris
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Yep

tulip brook
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okay awesome

chrome iris
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If you wanna see what it looks like

edgy tiger
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what is that case lol

opal night
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Better question: What is that SSD?

low scaffold
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Teamgroup loves to use “graphic design is my passion” labels for their drives

edgy tiger
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Ok so i do salvage and a while ago I found an old gaming PC with an antec truepower quattro 850-watt. It is caked with dust inside but seems to power a 3080 just fine- should I worry about the dust?

opal night
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Yes

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Dust = heat. Heat + power components = bad

lofty pewter
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Dust usually means old too. With an old PSU that I don't know off the top of my head, idk

low scaffold
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Yeah

opal night
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Yeah, not sure i'd trust my $800 GPU to that

lofty pewter
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Can't look it up rn cuz no PC

low scaffold
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Also i havent seen u too much hei

lofty pewter
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School stuff 1+ weeks ago. Now I'm tired

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Well, been tired since throughout school

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Just doing the eternal rest

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by not being eternal at all and actually barely resting

low scaffold
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Lmao

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Rest more

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Sleep is good for u

lofty pewter
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but my PC be broken and need fixing

low scaffold
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What broke keeeeek

lofty pewter
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GPU, one of the caps went bye bye

low scaffold
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Lmao what board partner

lofty pewter
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Snapped it off while trying to take a water block off, EKWB be finicky IG. Was EVGA

low scaffold
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Oh lmao i thought it just blew up

lofty pewter
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the bolt got screwed on the other side and had trouble taking it off

low scaffold
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Have seen a few msi/zotac boards just pop

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Cant resolder?

lofty pewter
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I can, and probs will at some point

scenic lance
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Is the only difference between seasonic gx and gm the modularity? If so, is it worth spending 20$ more for fully modular?

lofty pewter
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But rn being really really dumb with glue cuz I'm lazy and want to break it more or smth idk

lofty pewter
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It's easier, and thus my very terrible ideal solution

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This is why I can say I'm fake techie, welp

low scaffold
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Lmao true

tulip granite
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Where is the psu for this pc

low scaffold
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doesnt matter cause u shouldnt buy it

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hope i helped

teal flare
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$1400 and you get a 2060

tulip granite
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I got on sale, so $1060

low scaffold
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plus msi isnt even a top tier brand

tulip granite
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But where in the case is the psu and how do I access it

low scaffold
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why get an all msi system

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its literally where u plug it in

opal night
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500W PSU

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mmmmmm

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B460 chipset

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DDR4 2933

low scaffold
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ikr

teal flare
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at least its dual channel memory

low scaffold
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thats like

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prebuilt 101

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trash tier pc but cool case

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and wowie it has rgb!!!!!

tulip granite
low scaffold
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yes

tulip granite
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thank you

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Also, anyone know any good websites where I can enter my specs and it would tell me recommended wattage

opal night
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Yes, right here

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Just GPU is fine

tulip granite
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3060 ti

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I'm thinking 800 should be safe, thoughts?

elfin trout
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Uh

opal night
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550W to 600W

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UNless you want a 3080 down the road, then 750W

elfin trout
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550w is good bet depending on cpu

opal night
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600W to be safe

tulip granite
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I also got an i7-10700F

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So like 650?

opal night
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Nah, 600

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UNless you plan to upgrade everything

tulip granite
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Is there any downside to a greater wattage psu besides price

opal night
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No. Just wasted money

tulip granite
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Okay, thank you 🙂

opal night
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yw

chrome iris
opal night
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Never seen a label like that before

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XD

chrome iris
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Yeah pretty flashy

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Or tacky idk how to describe it

opal night
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yes to both

rich hazel
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Is silverstone a good psu brand

silk crane
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What are some good cases that can fit a 360 rad on top ?

elfin trout
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td500 mesh

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p500a

rich hazel
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Bruh

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Wait

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Is silverstone a good psu brand

rich hazel
sinful hamlet
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is the EVGA 220-G3-0750-X1 Supernova G3 750W Fully Modular Power Supply a good one?

surreal magnet
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YEHA

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OOPS

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yes it is

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misspelled and caps lock

sinful hamlet
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ok

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surreal magnet
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not really

sinful hamlet
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what is a good case for under 55 dollars

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?

surreal magnet
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why 55 dollars

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why not 65

sinful hamlet
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ok 65 dollars

sinful hamlet
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is there any atx ones?

surreal magnet
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the one you linked wasnt ATX...

sinful hamlet
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oh i thought it was

rich hazel
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Lol

sinful hamlet
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i guess not

surreal magnet
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whats wrong with mATX

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unless you already have an ATX board

waxen quartz
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The fractal design meshify c is a good case it might still be about $65 with the holiday sale

sinful hamlet
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i have a matx

rich hazel
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It only comes with 2 of the fans though

sinful hamlet
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i like a case that hides the psu

rich hazel
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Oh psu shroud right

sinful hamlet
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yup

rich hazel
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What’s your case budget?

sinful hamlet
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55-65

rich hazel
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I

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Ok

sinful hamlet
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is that fine?

sinful hamlet
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ok thx

rich hazel
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There’s also a white one fyi

chrome iris
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@sinful hamlet beware that case has the worst cable management ive ever seen, and its pretty small so not too long of GPUs for you.
Other than that its a nice case. Used it before

sinful hamlet
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witch one?

scenic lance
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can anyone explain the difference between the EVGA supernova models and which ones I should be looking to get?
Theres GA, G5, G3, GT, G+ and I really don't know what I'm looking at at this point lol

opal night
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G2, P2, PS and T2 are Fantastic

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G3 GT PG is great

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B3, G/G1 G5 GD are good also

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GA is also good

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Stay away from BT, B, BV, GS 550/650, and a few others

scenic lance
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thanks a lot

tight folio
scenic lance
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Anybody know anything about poweron times for PSU's? I'm currently looking at the Superflower Leadex III, which a reviewer said was very good except for the high poweron time (250ms), which could render it incompatable with some motherboards

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Is this nitpicking or something I should actually consider

fallow cairn
fallow cairn
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so many wrong units

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those aren't even great

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B3- DC-DC + LLC on >= 650w units, OPP is set too high, the unit gets too hot (missing a side cap), and inrush current is really bad (worse than BQ), sleeve bearing, and blew up in Aris' testing and is Hot garbage.

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EVGA G3 is a good unit, its protections are set very very poorly to the point where it can melt.

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G1 isn't a good option considering the price most of the time. It is built off similar to the GQ platform which like I have explained before, is not good at all for its price (OTP could be hit or miss depending on wattage of unit). When crossloading the 5v, it moves to 2% tolerance

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G5 line, didn't pay much attention to the fan speed profile, so the 750 G5 is noisy. Moreover, its vampire power exceeds 0.25W with 230V input, so it fails to meet even the lowest Cybenetics efficiency standard (ETA-S).

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so many not good PSU's there

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@opal night

scenic lance
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Yeah... I just bought an 850w superflower so I can forget about all that crap lol

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Way too complicated for a noober like me

fallow cairn
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Do you mean inrush current?

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And which review is this?

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Or do you mean hold up time

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Hold up time is measured in milliseconds

minor portalBOT
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Deckfy#5664 has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

fallow cairn
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ok I keep forgetting

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And the weird thing is Hold-up time represents the amount of time, usually measured in milliseconds, a PSU can maintain output regulations and the higher is better

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I think he meant inrush current but who uses milliseconds as a unit for inrush current?

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This reviewer you saw doesn’t seem to know what he’s doing

scenic lance
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@fallow cairn he said power on time, and I think that’s what he meant since he used separate benchmarks for inrush current and holdup time. Apparently most psu manufacturers try to aim for a power on time under 100ms?

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Apparently this is the one and only worry he had about the psu but I have no idea what this benchmark means lol

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I guess it is referring to amount of time until a specified load delivery from 0 but I don’t know what it means when the guy says it could mess with motherboard compatibility

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I’m even more confused now the online breakdown on techpowerup mentions the power on time for the ARGB version of the psu but not the normal kind even though they’re the same thing

fallow cairn
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PWR_OK which is not good for ASM but should not be a problem for most motherboards

scenic lance
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@fallow cairn what is ASM? Sorry lol I’m just trying to do my own research and idk what it stands for.

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Is EVGA BR good?

opal night
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Depends on what you're powering with it

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3080? No. 3060TI, maybe

scenic lance
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3070

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Should I do 650 for the 3070?

fallow cairn
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unless he has bought it

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actually even if he has it, I would ask him to refund it if possible

fallow cairn
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Double forward topology,low tier/quality capacitors and cheap fan bearing, 30c temperature rating and no in-depth teardown reviews

scenic lance
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Hb a cxm 650w?

opal night
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XD

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It'll be fine

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Y'all get way too picky over power supplies.

fallow cairn
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if not, do not take it

scenic lance
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No

fallow cairn
scenic lance
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Yeah Ik I don’t trust @fallow cairn

fallow cairn
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what country?

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iil pick one

scenic lance
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Hb I block you

fallow cairn
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steveconfused was just trying to help

low scaffold
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lol

opal night
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I wouldn't go with a CXM

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Just a CX

scenic lance
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How about, @supple igloo your not funny

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Also k then cx

opal night
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Yes

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Mid range price, will do you well

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650 watts for about $85

scenic lance
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Kk

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So cx and what about cv?

low scaffold
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and vintage did u see that leadex deal

fallow cairn
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I'd be surprised if someone didn't Yawy

low scaffold
scenic lance
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@fallow cairn what is alternative sleep mode? Minor detail or something important?

primal obsidian
carmine flicker
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when putting in my mobo should i use th emetal washers on the screws for my mobo?

fallow cairn
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don’t even worry about it

scenic lance
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Ok thanks a lot!

scenic lance
fallow cairn
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I have a DQ-M as of now, planning to buy a leadex for my next build Nice

fallow cairn
tulip brook
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yall I need a good psu for a good price

low scaffold
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good price depends on your budget

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start with providing that and someone will be able to help

elfin trout
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Phanteks amp 750w another option

low scaffold
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true

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inb4 $30 budget

tulip brook
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my budget is ~800 dollars

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for the whole pc

low scaffold
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yea

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id go leadex for more watts

tulip brook
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do I need more watts though?

scenic lance
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No but it’s nice to have and you’ll probably thank yourself later for putting in an extra 10-20$ for 100 more watts

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Since you’ll be investing in something you would be able to use more reliably, for longer, and possibly in a different build

tulip brook
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ok thanks

low scaffold
verbal pasture
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newegg is reliable? I want to buy a case for my build but it has glass, is there any chance that it will arrive broken? because Wont be able to check the state in which it is

low scaffold
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Depends

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I dont trust their shipping with drives

scenic lance
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@tulip brook you can get the phantex amp (above) and the seasonic GM 750 is another good choice

low scaffold
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Or the unit i sent

scenic lance
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^

low scaffold
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Which is better than all units mentioned

scenic lance
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I just got a leadex iii 850 very excited for it to last me 10 years

grim violet
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anyone got any suggestions for a decently priced Full-Tower case? I've been looking and only found ones in the higher $200 and $300's

sinful hamlet
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yo i got a supernova g3 750 watt psu fully modular for so cheap

low scaffold
sinful hamlet
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is it a good psu

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?

low scaffold
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it is alr

sinful hamlet
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people say that it is good

mint prism
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Speaking of which, I gotta wait until the 11th for Amazon to ship my SuperNOVA G+, but Newegg has them in stock 😠

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Thinking about just cancelling it and ordering from Newegg

sinful hamlet
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i mean it takes a little while to get your money back on amazon

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like 3 days

mint prism
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They havent shipped, so it'd just be a cancellation, not a refund

sinful hamlet
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yeah but you paid for it

scenic lance
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How good is the Montech Beta power supply (specifically the 650w bronze variant)

opal night
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Tier D, would not recommend

scenic lance
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My friend is using it

opal night
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Still would not recommend

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Linus rates it Tier D

scenic lance
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Will it be ok though

opal night
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I mean, not gonna blow up

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Don't be surprised if it doesn't last long though

scenic lance
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Should be at least 3 years right

sinful hamlet
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maybe

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but the psu is one of the most crucial part of the pc

scenic lance
grim violet
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no he means the actual word crucial

wanton dirge
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If I get a 3080 with 3x 8-pin connections for power, would a Corsair RM 850watt be able to cover that? Does it also include 3x 6+2 cables?

grim violet
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is rgb worth it?

elfin trout
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no

grim violet
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seems like a pain to have to get adapters or a hub for my case atleast

edgy tiger
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@grim violet i can tell you I like it

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Very easy to build in and good temps

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But maybe look at the lancool as well

grim violet
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now I'm worried cause it doesnt have a top dust filter and reviews say the fans are lacking :/

fallow cairn
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As a unit

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But protections set terribly poorly

steady walrus
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How good is the enermax revolution df 850?

opal night
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Tier C, not bad, not good

fallow cairn
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Bud

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DF is not tier C

elfin trout
fallow cairn
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And DF rocks

opal night
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Um

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well

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I just learned to read an hour ago

fallow cairn
elfin trout
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The message was sent a minute ago, you haven't learned well enough >:D

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@opal night go get some sleep

opal night
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Ya, borked that one

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Only 10 PM bruh

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Text was yellow, I missed it

elfin trout
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Clearly too tired >:P

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Ctrl-F exists

opal night
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Nah

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Mistakes happen

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I ain't perfect

elfin trout
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(Dats why you need to get some sleep)

opal night
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i'm good

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Hunting GPU's

fallow cairn
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Don’t go solely by tier list either cursed1

opal night
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Who do you work for?

fallow cairn
opal night
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Figures

drowsy grail
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Looking at the Corsair hx 850 platinum for a 3090 strix and 5950x build

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Should be fine yea?

lofty pewter
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Basic OC and stock will be fine. Major OC will probs not have enough wattage

drowsy grail
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Really?

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I thought the 850 might be overkill already

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For OC

warm lark
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would 550w work for this setup

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CPU Ryzen 5 3500x
GPU GTX 1650
Storage seagate barracuda 1tb hdd
optional storage 480gb kingstone ssd
Motherboard Asus Prime B450m-a
Ram ddr4 8gb 2400mhz hyper x fury black (x2)
Case Aerocool Cylon Black RGB

opal night
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OH yeah

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Just fine

warm lark
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also

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how can i calculate the voltage/wattage

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just add up?

opal night
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take it with a grain of salt though

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ALways go over by 10-20%

warm lark
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wdym

opal night
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If the calculator says you need a 500W power supply, get a 550-600W

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Don't get right at the calculator

warm lark
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o ok

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what

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it says 220 whats

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watts*
bruh

opal night
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450 watt then. The smaller wattage power supplies tend to be low quality or a different form factor

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Now

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You planning to upgrade any time in the future?

warm lark
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probably

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i was planning on getting a 600w

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but they all ran out of stock

opal night
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600W will run a 3060TI

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so yeah

warm lark
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so ive had a hard time

opal night
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budget?

warm lark
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uh

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for psu

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let me translate to usd

astral grail
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Corsair CX600 is pretty much always in stock

opal night
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Not in the US

warm lark
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under 140

opal night
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EU has weird stock

warm lark
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dollars

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im not in eu

opal night
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Where?

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Let's look there

warm lark
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sa

opal night
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Ah

astral grail
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Oh ok so that's why things are out of stock

warm lark
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yea

opal night
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Ok, well, let's sling a couple out there then

warm lark
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ima look at corsair

opal night
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Corsair CX for sure

warm lark
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btw

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are those modular

opal night
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NOT CX-M

warm lark
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im trying to go for a modular one

opal night
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CX isn't no

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Modular, got it

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Seasonic Core GM

astral grail
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There is the CX600 and the CX600M the M is for modular

opal night
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CX-M is rated lower for some reason

astral grail
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I've never had an issue with it idk why that would be. I have 3 friend that use a CX-M psu and have had them for over 4 years at this point

warm lark
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Corsair CX Series CX650M (CP-9020103-WW) (650 W)

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i found this one

minor portalBOT
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trollface gaming mexico#0001 has been warned

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warm lark
astral grail
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Yea so that is Corsair's CX-M series of PSUs in a 650w capacity

opal night
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I mean it's Tier C that's all, if that is readily available it'd be fine

warm lark
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btw

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is it bad to have bronze

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i was going for gold protection but i found some rn

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but theyre like 10 times more expensive

astral grail
#

Nope Bronze/Gold is the ideal rating for a PSU

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Anything above and it just doesnt give enough benifits IMO to be worth it

opal night
#

Bronze is fine

warm lark
#

silver is between i assume

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or under?

opal night
#

Bronze/Gold isn't an indicator of quality

warm lark
#

i know

astral grail
#

Yea it's only the power efficency

opal night
#

Just power efficieny from the wall to your PC

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It's typically Bronze/Gold/Titanium or Platinum

astral grail
#

80+, Bronze, Silver, Gold, Plat, Titanium

astral grail
# grim violet From these cases what would be the best choice for overall good airflow and easy...

IMO for the $150 USD price point for all of these cases they aren't really worth it. Out of the 3 I would say the Fractal Design Meshify 2 has the best airflow since the entire front is a mesh front pannel allowing the most air through the front. Sure you can mount some fans on the top but better to have a good amount of air coming in from the front since it will be going directly over the GPU.

grim violet
#

well all 3 have an open mesh front

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PWM is the ability to control a fans speed correct? If I were to have 6 PWM fans (3 for front intake, 2 on the top for outtake, and 1 on the rear for outtake) would I be able to group them and control only certian ones speeds? Like make the front 3 spin at 1700rpm while the back spin slower

opal night
#

motherboard probably won't have that many fan connectors

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You'll need a PWM fan hub

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Most motherboards only have 4 fan connectors, sometimes less

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But with a hub or two, you can control them individually, yes

grim violet
#

okay

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and I assume this hub would need to be special to the brand?

opal night
#

For just speed or RGB too?

grim violet
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speed I dont care for rgb

opal night
#

probably overkill for just a couple fans though

opal night
#

I would avoid the Arctics because they have a fluid bearing inside. The seals are very syusceptible to dust and once the seal is gone, the fluid leaks out and the fan is ruined

grim violet
#

the phanteks are more expensive but in terms of cooling, speeds, and sounds idk

opal night
#

Go with Sealed bearing or Magnetic Levitiation bearings

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Back to the fans

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For the hub, you'd put the front fans in the hub and connect to motherboard port

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For the other fans, just connect to motherboard. Then you'll be able to control front and everything else separately

grim violet
#

ah okay

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and do you have any suggested fans that fit those bearings?

opal night
#

mmmm

grim violet
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cause the phanteks have "rifle" bearings idk if thats good

opal night
#

it's not ideal but you will pay more for the different bearing types

grim violet
#

yeah idk what bearings are good. I just want fans thatll work well and wont break fast

opal night
#

Honestly the Rifle bearings will be fine

low scaffold
#

noctua cute

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wow switched laptops and this keeb is weird

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arrow keys different

umbral cypress
#

What’s a good psu or should I get the segotep 700W

low scaffold
#

leadex

drowsy flame
#

should i be worried about space on the icue 465x?

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otherwise ill get a larger case

edgy tiger
#

@drowsy flame it is a decently sized mid tower case- it should fit any standard ATX board and mainstream GPUs. Unless you are doing hardline watercooling, it fits everything well

dim wharf
#

What cases do you guys recommend? I’m looking for something silent with good airflow.

edgy tiger
#

@dim wharf what gpu/cooler/mobo?

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Also what budget

dim wharf
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Cooler is stock and budget less than $150

edgy tiger
#

ok that is an matx board

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this is tame, but GN loved it and it is pretty much full mesh. i personally like to have a case just big enough for the MOBO for looks and this looks good

dim wharf
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Thanks

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@edgy tiger any air coolers you recommend?

edgy tiger
#

what cpu/budget?

dim wharf
edgy tiger
#

this works very well and scores you a bunch of noctua cred

low scaffold
#

dark rock pro 4 >:((((

low scaffold
#

worth

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coolig

dim wharf
#

Nice, I’ll check it out

fallow cairn
#

It’s on a completely different platform

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CXM uses two designs. 450-650 uses a CWT codename Santana, whereas 750-850 uses PUQ-B. These are low end double forward platforms
, no OTP on prior 2015 versions, OTP set too high on newer CXM version to where the capacitors can degrade, sleeve bearing fan, and also has the same issues as CV with high-transient/peak power GPUs, making it not favorable to any Big Navi, Ampere etc..

coarse moss
#

okay guys, I’m trying to decide between a evga g5 750w and RM750x

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what do i get? (my build: Ryzen 9 3900xt and 3070)

edgy tiger
#

Both are quality PSUs. Whatever is on sale is fine

low scaffold
#

leadex

edgy tiger
#

Leadex?

scenic lance
edgy tiger
#

Yes

scenic lance
#

Oki thanks

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Hb this?

edgy tiger
#

Not as good

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850 is prob more than you need and not a reputable brand

scenic lance
#

Ah k thanks

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It’s for my 5600x and 3070 build

edgy tiger
#

Yeah, would go with EVGA

scenic lance
#

K thankss

fallow cairn
#

@scenic lance neither

scenic lance
#

Oh right I unblocked you

#

Wasup

fallow cairn
#

The Segotep is garbage (don’t take modular Segotep) and EVGA GT is a HEC TPK though it is supposedly below the Cougar GX-F which is on the same platform. No information is known other than that.

scenic lance
#

Oop

fallow cairn
#

G5 doesn’t stand a chance

coarse moss
#

oh really I’ve heard that most corsair psu’s are kinda bad quality and evga and seasonic are better but i just wanna make sure i get the overall better one

fallow cairn
#

Wha

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Kind of bs is that

scenic lance
#

Anybody know some unique cases? Like the Antec Torque ATX Mid and Cougar Conquer 2?

fallow cairn
scenic lance
low scaffold
#

unless it is lililabs

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everything from lililabs is fun

fallow cairn
#

lol

scenic lance
#

okay some im new to pcs so like dont mind any stupidity please but in there difference in an atx powersupply purely in size or is there something else?

dense spindle
young osprey
#

looks like it should be ok

astral grail
#

Yea it has a mesh front pannel so should be ok

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But do you need that two PSU bays and the 5.25" bays?

dense spindle
#

not really but i do like the old school look.

#

any recommendation on a similar case without the front bays?

astral grail
#

The Corsair 220T would be a pretty similar option in a lot smaller form factor. The case you sent earlier is very tall.

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The 220T has the mesh Top/Front as well as a spot in the rear for a single fan

dense spindle
#

i was thinking it was tall as well, thanks for the input

mint prism
#

@sinful hamlet Future reference, cancelled orders dont require a refund

coarse moss
fallow cairn
#

np

silver temple
#

whats a good case under 60 dollars

willow hollow
#

montech x1

silver temple
#

ok ty

fallow cairn
#

Not for a guy who actually prefers to control their fans

silver temple
#

i mean i have a $30 case i need a new one

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i dont care bout controling fans much

willow hollow
#

its a 50$ case

silver temple
#

yea i looked at it

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im alkso thinking cougar mx 330 g air

fallow cairn
#

Yh it’s similar to the montech X1 except it looks like a thing dropped out of 2012

silver temple
#

true

fallow cairn
#

It has buttons to control the fan RPM except they’re not wired to anything kekw

#

Scam peepoSadSip

silver temple
#

lol

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i dont need the best cooling i have a 1070 ti and upgrading to a 9400f

fallow cairn
#

Metallic gear Neo air

silver temple
#

thats sick and with mesh

#

ill prob get a exhaust fan at the back

fallow cairn
#

Doesn’t need one

silver temple
#

oh well cool

#

i think ima get that

fallow cairn
#

Nice

silver temple
#

thanks btw

fallow cairn
#

Np

shut helm
#

Anyone know where I can find the Vertical GPU mount kit for a Lian Li O11 mini? It's listed on the description but I havent been able to find one

#

advertised as an optional accessory here:

tender root
#

@shut helm have a chat with lian li

grand ether
scenic lance
#

Hi guys! so, i was planning my next build for when my 3070 will arrive (so probably not before February) and i'm looking for a case. I wanted to use the artic freezer 50 for its stunning looks and performance, and because i need a lot of cooling since i will probably use a 3900x. By looking around i found out the in win 303 and i instantly loved it. air flow is good, and the look is perfect for what i have in mind. My problem is that it cannot support the freezer 50 since it is 166 (6mm higher than the max supported cooler height). So either i change the case, but i can't find any options with a similar look (mind that i can't compromise on airflow), or i change the cooler, but i loose all the wow factor i was searching for the inside of my machine... Any suggestion? I love clean panels like the 303 or the o11d, but either of those have a max height for the cooler too low...

young osprey
#

im looking at inwin 303 and i don't see how it has good airflow

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there are some fractal and bequiet cases that have solid front panels that should have similar looks

low scaffold
#

i adore be quiet but their cases focus on like

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being quiet

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for the most part at least

#

very poor airflow because theyre designed for silent systems

opal night
#

That 303 is H510 or worse

dawn matrix
#

The dx500 is mesh tho

opal night
#

NO thanks

dawn matrix
#

And still has some padded panels to reduce echoes and stuff

proper pier
#

Anybody know a good wattage calculator?

young osprey
#

PCPP

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does it for you

steady walrus
#

Is an 850 watt enough for a 5900x and a 3080?

opal night
#

Yes

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A good quality one like a Corsair RM or something

low scaffold
tulip granite
#

higher wattage PSUs will go down in price overtime right?

low scaffold
#

nah

#

price is pretty stable rn

tulip granite
#

Is there any downside to getting a high volt wattage for a low volt system besides price

low scaffold
#

none at all

#

i tell ppl to go overkill on psu so they have upgrade room

#

psu often is the thing that comes with you the most

tulip granite
#

What would I need for like, a 3090

low scaffold
#

id say nothing below 1k

tulip granite
#

1200 should be good for the next 5-ish years right?

inner blade
#

hey guys do u think i should get the phanteks eclispe p360a or the lancool 2 mesh

teal flare
#

lancool 2 will have better temps

inner blade
#

oh it will

#

ok thats good to know

scenic lance
#

really dodged a bullet by returning this one lol

#

gigabyte psu big bad

fallow cairn
#

Really really terrible kekw

#

Capacitors on the secondary side are unknown, capacitors on the filtering output are literally new, Yate Loon (D12SH-12) rifle bearing while Gigabyte claims a fluid bearing, the primary side (APFC) mosfets blew up during testing, OPP and OCP are not set properly, poor (3.3v too ) 12v transient response, low efficiency, power-ok signal not accurate, and doesn't meet v2.52 ATX spec kekw

`During the OPP (cold) evaluation, the PSU died, so I couldn't finish all tests. How did it die? I increased the load on all rails until the PSU shut down as it should. I left it to cool down and tried to restart it after five minutes, but was treated with fireworks and a loud bang. I had pushed its cheap primary switching FETs too far, so Gigabyte should lower the OPP and +12 V OCP triggering points.’ kekw

low scaffold
scenic lance
#

yeeeaaahhh

#

was thinking about keeping with 3070 since it was bundle but

#

doubting a psu is never a good thing

low scaffold
#

sell the psu to some moron and keep the 3070

scenic lance
#

unfortunate that I returned it and had to lose 30 dollars

#

kind of sucks since if you buy the bundle and realize the psu is garbage and return it you end up spending 620 dollars on a frickin 3070

low scaffold
#

lol

#

newegg scalper

scenic lance
#

makes me really wish I waited for 3060ti release lol

#

then again my 3070 with tax would be 600 usd so im only losing 20

#

newegg scalped me for 20 bucks :/

opal night
#

It's why I pass on the bundles

#

Been waiting patiently since October for my turn lol

scenic lance
#

90% of the bundles are trying to get rid of bad stock of subpar ram

#

and other trash

opal night
#

Yup

#

Exactly

scenic lance
#

some of the asus ones are decent for the mobo

opal night
#

I has all that though, just need gpu -_-

scenic lance
#

lol

opal night
#

I need to YEET this 2060 out of existence, never should have purchased it

scenic lance
#

all the bundles with oloy ram and 2x ventus cards wuuut

opal night
#

I mean, TBH, Oloy ain't terrible

scenic lance
#

they have some good sticks its just kind of yucky when its a 2x ventus and 3000mhz

#

much more worth for a premium card

#

good on you for waiting though since ti units are dropping

opal night
#

Yeah

#

I mean, not like I had a choice lol

scenic lance
#

yup

#

I got mine pretty much through sheer luck and persistence

#

and it wasnt even worth it in the end

#

3060ti > 3070 imo

opal night
#

Mmmmm

#

I'll take that extra 10-15% performance

#

Might tide me over an extra 6 months to a year

#

Plus I OC everything I own so......

scenic lance
#

good point

opal night
#

HOwever, I ain't paying $600 for one of the high end 3070's

scenic lance
#

if the extra 100 dollars puts me over another year ill be happy

opal night
#

I can do those clocks myself, thanks

scenic lance
#

with tax where I live a 560 dollar card is 600

#

so I ended up paying that much anyways

#

but evga queue is a lot better than newegg for getting a high end card

opal night
#

Mmm, my tax is high too

#

Depending where I buy

scenic lance
#

Funny how in italy we have the 3070 sold for no less than 750$ for the base models. I mean the retail ones and not scalped mind you

rich cobalt
#

Does anyone know difference between 460x and 465x Corsair cases

#

Cuz I wanted the 465x but only the 460x is available in my area

#

Is it basically the same thing or is there a difference like worse airflow or sumn?

scenic lance
#

the 460 is shorter, so be careful for the graphics card

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for the airflow i donnow sorry

rich cobalt
#

Thanks

#

that helps a lot

orchid hemlock
#

hey does anyone know how long it takes for cases to arrive?

keen oxide
robust prism
#

is there any good budget case with preinstalled fan under $70. I prefer one with 4 pre-installed fans

opal night
#

ATX or MATX

robust prism
#

atx

opal night
#

Believe it or not, these are decent cases. There's a white one in #build-pics

#

That's probably the best for 4 fans at your price point

robust prism
#

oh thats exactly what im looking for, thanks!

opal night
#

YW

chrome iris
#

@robust prism be aware that cable management in that case is just terrible. I’ve used it once. Literally have about 2 inches to route your cables on the right, that’s it

opal night
#

Yeah but for the money and 4 fans, that's about their only choice

#

It's definitely not the best for cable management for sure

chrome iris
#

I love the case — it’s just it’s tiny size that ruins it for me

#

Would definitely pay extra for that little more cable management

opal night
#

Ye. Budget cases always give up some creature comforts

#

Definitely. My P500A is supposed to be here today

chrome iris
#

Or at least make the fans ARGB lol. They’re just static Bored

opal night
#

If UPS decides to deliver it -_-

chrome iris
orchid hemlock
robust prism
#

damn, oh well its fine tho. Cant really complain for a budget case with 4 fans

chrome iris
#

@eager monolith this rosewill case is actually exceeding expectations! It’s definitely a bit small, but cable management isn’t bad, and it has holes for CPU power which sometimes I don’t see in even $40 cases. Definitely worth $28. Will work really well for this 1650 + 10100 build

eager monolith
#

Ya, same here. Would be nice to have more PSU clearance and non-punch out gpu slots, but it's great for $30

daring marsh
#

What case is that

eager monolith
#

Rosewell FBM-X2

#

It's really perfect for a non-flashy budget mATX build

daring marsh
#

Might look into that for my bros build

#

Its matx right

eager monolith
#

Ya

daring marsh
#

Mk

eager monolith
#

I'm waiting on my ram, but I'll have to send some pictures. Threw in a R5 3600 and a GTX 660

daring marsh
#

Nice

eager monolith
#

Cause it's a server so I don't need any gpu power

daring marsh
#

Im probably gonna do a r3 3300x and a 1650s

#

Maybe even a 1660s

eager monolith
#

I have a 1660s I can throw in but I think it'll be a waste. I'll just be remoting in most of the time

daring marsh
#

Mhm

#

Im thinking of making a workstation build for myself

eager monolith
#

Nice

#

I hope the ram I got off facebook isn't a scam

daring marsh
#

Might do it with threadripper or smthn

#

Facebook?

#

Hmm

#

Maybe it is cant really tell

eager monolith
#

Ya, 32gb of c16 3200mHz for $100

daring marsh
#

Hm not bad

chrome iris
#

Lmao I was aboutta say, $200?!!?

eager monolith
#

yeah lol

#

typo

chrome iris
#

Although, you can get totally new for like $10 more...

eager monolith
#

Ya, this stuff normally goes for $150 tho

#

Corsair LTX I think

chrome iris
#

Oh the little black sticks?

eager monolith
#

Yeah

chrome iris
#

No that’s lpx

eager monolith
#

I'm thinking of ltt lol

#

you right

daring marsh
#

Lol

chrome iris
#

I forgot what lpx looks like

eager monolith
#

These sticks are the white ones

daring marsh
#

Pair a 1060 with a 1950x maybe

chrome iris
#

Ooh

daring marsh
#

XD

eager monolith
#

I wonder if I can get anything out of my old ddr3. I got 24gbs that I can sell on ebay once I upgrade

daring marsh
#

Def could sell that

#

Maybe for $60

#

I dunno

eager monolith
#

Would be nice. would bring the upgrade to like $400

#

Or less, hold up

daring marsh
#

$60 mobo?

#

How did u manage that

eager monolith
#

Ya, warehouse deals on amazon

#

Damaged box, but they make it sound scary

#

Annd even if it is bad I always got rma... so 🙂

daring marsh
#

Lol

proper pier
wheat meadow
#

What psu wattage is recommended normally for a 3070?

#

Also what's the difference between corsair's rm and cx psu models? All I'm seeing is efficiency rating. Am I missing something?

#

Sorry I am smol brain

scenic lance
#

You are missing google

wheat meadow
#

You're missing manners. I've checked google but couldn't find it and wanted the opinion of a person rather than text on a website

primal obsidian
#

recommended 650w+, modular, under $100?

#

or semi modular

wheat meadow
#

Gotcha

#

Got my eye on a 750 80 plus gold for like 85

#

Thank ya

primal obsidian
#

what you looking at Taken?

#

I'm looking for something around that

#

went with the leadex iii

#

850w. Should be plenty of power

rigid patrol
#

EVGA SuperNOVA 650 GT, 80 plus gold or RGB750 Rainbow

wheat meadow
#

I'm an associate at best buy employee discounts

surreal magnet
#

if that second one is what i think it is, then get the evga one @rigid patrol

wheat meadow
#

It's a corsair rm 750

primal obsidian
#

was debating between the EVGA and the Super Flower

#

gotcha @wheat meadow

surreal magnet
#

rm750 (2019) is pretty good

wheat meadow
#

Nice. Now all I need is a 3070 and a ryzen 7 and I'm Gucci

#

ez pz

primal obsidian
#

haha right? I've got a 3700x...but can't land a GPU

wheat meadow
#

I keep getting told to wait for 5000 series

#

I think I will if I won't even have a gpu

#

I digress. This isn't about psus anymore lul

primal obsidian
#

I thought about it. but meh

#

Of course, if I can't find a GPU, all I've got is a pretty bunch of parts

opal night
#

HOly GEEZ everything runs so much cooler in the P500A lol

#

If you've got $100 for a case just get one

chrome iris
#

Or TD500 mesh 😉

opal night
#

P500A is superior cable management. Plus all the screws come in a plastic case, pre-organized.

fallow cairn
# scenic lance https://www.newegg.com/evga-700-bq-110-bq-0700-v1-700w/p/N82E16817438176?Descrip...

Not really since it does employ DC-DC conversion on the secondary side but tacts on a double forward circuit on the primary side (prone to transients and possibly whining) that is passively rectified (harms our efficiency even at this platform), 2% voltage tolerance on the 12v rail is pretty high, and not something to be happy for, As promised, it does have a TNB fan. Yes, the fan was indeed hitting the grille in the hot tests, the unit seems to a modification as there is a whole row of capacitors missing on the secondary side, the bridge rectifiers are stabled together (increasing temperature), Teapo SC (low-end Teapo) are seen on the secondary side, and its similarity platform wise to the 850w version, we can assume the same faulty protections are set so not too good

But hey the seasonic focus GM isn’t bad

fallow cairn
primal obsidian
#

Bronze version, but hey

fallow cairn
#

😩

scenic lance
#

its looking to me like one of the only good evga models is the g2

fallow cairn
#

G2 is not a good that model in comparison with others at the same price point anyways kekw

#

still issues with ampere/RDNA2 kekw

hearty leaf
#

I have a client that has a bottom mounted power supply that has a 12 inch cable assembly from the power supply to the motherboard. The failed power supply is a Logisys PS480A12BK, combo ATX and SATA. I have ordered 3 different similar power supplies but all of them have a motherboard cable that is much too short. Does anyone know of a power supply that has a long enough cable? It needs to be a minimum of 11 inches. Thank you!

scenic lance
#

Evga honestly just good for gpu's

fallow cairn
#

exactly lol

#

130 usd for G3 kekw

scenic lance
#

125usd for leadex iii 😳

elfin trout
#

130usd for 850w Revolution D.F. uhoh

scenic lance
#

o woah thats good

#

All I know about Rev D.F. is that its really high on psu tier list lol

elfin trout
#

it's multi rail too

#

very nice

#

and a very wacky dust free thing

scenic lance
#

looks like a low-key competitive unit

#

like leadex iii

elfin trout
#

I consider it to be a very competitive unit

scenic lance
#

making me reconsider my leadex purchase 😅

#

at least they were same price

elfin trout
#

mua ha ha ha

scenic lance
#

im sure theyre comparable though

fallow cairn
#

yehe, multi rail does not matter for you anyways unless you pair and overclock a CPU to the max and max out the power delivery on a single PCIe cable

#

which is not likely KnucklesThinking

elfin trout
#

It doesn't even really matter then

#

Only place I know it can matter is OCP on larger than 750w PSUs

fallow cairn
elfin trout
#

Performance wise multi rail vs single rail is basically none (doesn't affect ripple and such as long as the unit itself is good)

steady walrus
#

So I want to get an exhaust fan that is similar to the td500 mesh included fans, what would be the best choice?

primal obsidian
#

Did I go wrong getting the leadex bronze?

elfin trout
#

the bronze and the leadex iii are different units

#

bronze is fine

primal obsidian
#

Gotcha. Yeah I'm not doing anything crazy

#

Probably would have spent the extra $25 for the gold, didn't realize. Ah well

crisp ruin
#

Got mine for 60$

opal night
#

It's meh

#

Tier C

#

Won't blow up on you but I wouldn't recommend pushing the limits of wattage

ocean girder
#

does anyone know what computer cases support ASUS Intel WS X299 SAGE LGA 2066 DDR4 SSI CEB Motherboard (90SW0070-M0EAY0) ?

opal night
#

Find a case that supports E-ATX formfactor

hot flint
#

best sfx power supply? (600-650w)

fallow cairn
hot flint
#

thanks man

#

what would you go with?

steady walrus
#

is the revolution df not that known just because it is from enermax and not some big brand

elfin trout
#

@steady walrus products aren't widely known for being good, products are only widely known for being popular. Corsair is a good example

#

Corsair peripherals are very well known, but they're not good.

fallow cairn
hearty leaf
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I have a client that has a bottom mounted power supply that has a 12 inch cable assembly from the power supply to the motherboard. The failed power supply is a Logisys PS480A12BK, combo ATX and SATA. I have ordered 3 different similar power supplies but all of them have a motherboard cable that is much too short. Does anyone know of a power supply that has a long enough cable? It needs to be a minimum of 11 inches. Thank you!

scenic lance
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Quick question, what’s the difference between fully modular and modular? Or is it the same? Cause I’m getting a 750w PSU that’s fully modular and compatible with the case I already have but idk if there’s something I’m missing regarding the name meanings

opal night
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Fully modular means main power cable also modular

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Modular means main power cable is hard wired

scenic lance
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So the power cable comes with it obviously still, so either way it’s not a huge difference yeah?

opal night
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Nope

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Need the main power cable so

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doesn't really matter except for looks

scenic lance
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Awesome

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Just got a ryzen 7 and the PSU so going to pick it up in an hour then get to building yay

opal night
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NOICE

drowsy flame
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I'm putting together a build with a 3070 and a 5600x, should i get a 650 watt or a 750 watt psu?

opal night
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650 is fine

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unless you plan to upgrade to 3080, then go 750-850

scenic lance
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Another quick question lol, with fully modular it comes with all the cables for the plugs right?

opal night
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Yes

scenic lance
drowsy flame
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uhhh

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The rm650x apparently doesn't have an extra 12v connector for the B550-f board

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According to pc part picker

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Should I be worried?

edgy tiger
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@drowsy flame u mean the 4pin?

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probably not. that is for extreme OCs and is not needed for normal bootup or not as extreme OCs

opal night
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Don't need it

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8 pin is fine

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Unless you're overclocking a 5950x or something

hot laurel
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Man finding the case that for u is hard ngl

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Idk how many I’ve looked at by now lol and I still can’t decide

drowsy flame
opal night
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Don't need it

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8 pin only

drowsy flame
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Thanks, I was worried I wouldn't be able to use the psu

mint prism
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VR, you get your p500a yet?

opal night
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Yes. Its sooooooo nice!!

vocal tree
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Not the M550 hanging on for dear life peepoSadSip

opal night
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Still on good shape actually

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Im surprised. Definitely the odd man out.

low scaffold
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i just press the back cover on really tight and pray

opal night
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XD

vocal tree
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Yeah the data cable is what I mean lol

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I'm sure the drive is in good health

low scaffold
opal night
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Yup

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Found that real quick when the drive didnt ahow in Bios lmao!!!

low scaffold
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hehe yeah thatll do it

vocal tree
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Xd

opal night
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Cable management overkill

frail hound
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Alright guys. Whats opinion on a very decent and reliable all round 750w psu. idc about rgb i want reliability will being under 150

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pleaseeeeeeeee 😉

teal flare
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what modularity/efficiency rating are you looking for?

frail hound
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I thought my pc had a 500 w which i was gonna wait a bit but i think its only 400w and thats just not gonna cut it so i wanna go ahead and get one rn so im just wanting to make sure i have the least chance of something going wrong lol

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I would like full but would def not overlook semi and gold is preferable

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But semi is a minimum

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Im really drawn to the supernovas for some reason

frail hound
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Thanks man just placced the order.

minor portalBOT
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frail hound
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Itll be nice i got that pus and i been running off 240gb ssd boot drive but i also picked up an nvme today so ill beable to install and boot off of that and i can give the ssd to my ole lady ill throw it in her hp all in one since thats all running off a 5400 mech drive lol

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psu**

normal goblet
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Are nxt cases good quality

elfin trout
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nzxt cases are bad airflow so I don't like em

opal night
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Can confirm

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All looks no flow

normal goblet
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Ok

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Thx

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Are there any case that look similar to nzxt but better airflow

opal night
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Budget?

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Like $80?

elfin trout
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And look similar to which specific case?

opal night
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510

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😉

elfin trout
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gawd no

opal night
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Everyone wants the 510

elfin trout
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hm what looks similar

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dunno

opal night
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none of em really

normal goblet
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Ok

normal goblet
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Thx any way tho

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Oh wait

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Thx

opal night
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I'll drop a few here