like 3600c16 is good enough
#cpus-mobo-and-memory
cursive epoch
wheat geyser
hey guys are there any good alternatives that are similar to the Crucial Ballistix 16x2 3600MHz
I want the Ballistix Black but they are oos currently
vale yarrow
i5 11400F vs i5 11600KF; Whats the difference? the price difference for me is around 90$
with the 11400f being 209, and the 11600kf being 299
is the 11600kf worth paying extra for?
cursive epoch
is the 11600kf worth paying extra for?
imo nah
To fully utilize it, it needs a z mobo
vale yarrow
Ah, I don’t have one
Unfortunately
I don’t think I have many uses for the extra power either
Thank you
vast meadow
I want the Ballistix Black but they are oos currently
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/zcH8TW/gskill-ripjaws-v-32-gb-2-x-16-gb-ddr4-3600-memory-f4-3600c16d-32gvkc this will be fine, not as good and can't oc like ballistix can but the rgb version is in stock?
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/33WBD3/crucial-ballistix-rgb-32-gb-2-x-16-gb-ddr4-3600-memory-bl2k16g36c16u4bl
wheat geyser
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/zcH8TW/gskill-ripjaws-v-32-gb-2-x-16-gb-ddr4-36...
not in stock
vast meadow
Ah
wheat geyser
yeah fck
hearty gust
i like give this to some one what bord do i need
cerulean wadi
i like give this to some one what bord do i need
LGA775, it's from 2010 btw.
uh, maybe P35 and P45 chipset mobos. Gigabyte EP45-UD3H might be an example, that's what I had w/ the newer E8400 cpu (same socket)
cerulean wadi
LGA775 mobos take ddr2 btw
cerulean wadi
oh it's like intel z690, some take ddr4 some take ddr 5
hearty gust
it a core 2 duo i know that
cerulean wadi
Yep, that's what they called the dual core.
hearty gust
it not much now but it be great for school work
found one https://www.ebay.com/itm/185054659136?epid=74098439&hash=item2b161e0240:g:TzwAAOSw9rthQ7Qc
cerulean wadi
that would work I know for sure, and pretty sure most of those p45 mobos use ddr2.
hearty gust
the one i have use ddr3 i still have the ram
cerulean wadi
Not super cheap, but that specific ebay listing does come w/ cpu & ram so that's cool. cpu on ebay listing might be better than the E5500 you showed.
cerulean wadi
Oh, that Asus is deffo newer. I see it takes ddr3, interesting.
hearty gust
yea
vernal cosmos
oh it's like intel z690, some take ddr4 some take ddr 5
10th gen intel supports ddr3
cerulean wadi
10th gen intel supports ddr3
really? That'd be the cheapest or best value for me, just buy cpu+mobo. well, hsf too so I don't take apart this set.
cerulean wadi
Finding a ddr3 10th mobo on the other hand
Found a neat old Skylake review for me showing how (old non-advanced) ddr4 was barely improvement in Dgpu gaming. Next page showing IPC upgrades is great info. Previously had a E8400, I kid you not. 
edit: seems like they had typos, but i thought most of the i7's had HT.
vast meadow
also 10th gen on ddr3 would be not great
cerulean wadi
Indeed, I bet this ram would actually hold back anything 9th gen or newer. ddr4 matured very well to having good timings & provides that extra bandwidth.
vast meadow
Ye
cerulean wadi
also 10th gen on ddr3 would be not great
I want to find an ipc test like this for 7/8 or 9 gen. Off to google i go. Hunting ebay for sub-$300 9/10gen combos also.
vast meadow
I want to find an ipc test like this for 7/8 or 9 gen. Off to google i go. Hunti...
Why bother, you'd need to get a 9700k to even consider it over a 10400
cerulean wadi
Oh forgot i5-9k was still only 4core huh. You're right, 10gen min & 10/11gen are not too diff on perf so that's good. Not doing a gen 4 ssd anytime soon i bet.
vast meadow
Oh forgot i5-9k was still only 4core huh. You're right, 10gen min & 10/11gen are...
Nah 9400 was 6 core but no hyper threading and same price as 10400+mobo+ram, 9700k, 8c8t, 9900k 8c16t
cerulean wadi
HT no issue but if so close to a 10gen set, yeah forget it. 👍 
Haven't really searched the used market yet though, so who knows if it's not great.
elfin yew
what ram speed is compatible with asrock b560m pro 4 and i7 10700
vast meadow
Answered, double post ^
wheat geyser
does it matter if I buy 2 8x2 instead of 1 16x2?
cursive epoch
does it matter if I buy 2 8x2 instead of 1 16x2?
it has a chance of not working
wheat geyser
it has a chance of not working
wait why
wheat geyser
does this work?
cerulean wadi
Mhm, that's why 4-stick kits were a thing. Of course, nowadays we don't need 4 sticks just to hit 4-8GB 😁
carmine lynx
whats the difference between a Ryzen 7 5700 and 5800x?
vast meadow
wait why
Kits aren't gauranteed to work when you put 2 different ones together, 4 sticks is harder to push, but rev e(die ballistix uses) is really easy on the memory controller so you're probs fine with ballistix doing it
wheat geyser
4 ballistix same kind would be fine right?
vernal cosmos
Mostly yeah
vast meadow
whats the difference between a Ryzen 7 5700 and 5800x?
5700g? 5700g has integrated graphics but isn't as good of a cpu as the 5800x, also the 5700g doesn't make much sense to buy as it's fairly expensive and the integrated graphics aren't much better thann 5600g
wheat geyser
Cuz the 16x2 OOS
might buy them later
but not now
Just need a PC to work
and game
vast meadow
4 ballistix same kind would be fine right?
Even tho, you're buying the same kit, they're not physically the same kit and not guaranteed to work together, but yeah should be fine especially if you don't mind running mem test 5 extreme anta
wheat geyser
what’s that @@@
vernal cosmos
Memory stress/stability tests
wheat geyser
can u guys help me when I build PC
I have no idea
I bought all the parts you recommended me
@vast meadow
vast meadow
Ye
vernal cosmos
can u guys help me when I build PC
Just ask in #building-and-recc-chat someone will help
wheat geyser
Bet
carmine lynx
5700g? 5700g has integrated graphics but isn't as good of a cpu as the 5800x, al...
Alright
topaz lava
@vast meadow my cpu ez debug light is on but when I switched cpus it was still on do you think it is my moho?
Mobo
vast meadow
<@!191276897227898880> my cpu ez debug light is on but when I switched cpus it w...
What's wrong?
topaz lava
So I built a new pc everything plugged in I believe and everything spins and works but no out put
And I’m plugged into gpu
vast meadow
So I built a new pc everything plugged in I believe and everything spins and wor...
Have you tried clearing cmos and reseating your ram?
topaz lava
I have reseat ram don’t know what or how to clear cmos
topaz lava
@vast meadow it showing you in screen now my questions are what should my resting cpu temp be because mine is 95 and how do I reset bios
vast meadow
<@!191276897227898880> it showing you in screen now my questions are what should...
Yeah it should be like 30-40c ... 95 is very bad unless you're talking farenheit, if 95c then you need to reseat your cpu cooler
vast meadow
I have reseat ram don’t know what or how to clear cmos
https://www.intel.com/content/www/us/en/support/articles/000025368/processors.html this will show you how to clear cmos
topaz lava
@vast meadow ur a lifesaver all I need now is to get the wifi card in and I’m done
vast meadow
<@!191276897227898880> ur a lifesaver all I need now is to get the wifi card in ...
No problem :)
topaz lava
Is 80c degrees normal while gaming
vast meadow
Depends on your cooler
nocturne cave
Wish I could but I already bought all the other components for my pc. Rams literally the last piece 🥲
hollow thorn
Wish I could but I already bought all the other components for my pc. Rams liter...
The thing is, its probably just cheaper to return the current mobo, grab a ddr4 z690 board, and grab ddr4 ram faster than grabbing ddr5 and cheaper
obtuse estuary
Hello, I have a problem. My RAM is currently running on 2133MHz instead of 3200MHz and I can't get into the BIOS. Does anyone know how to change the RAM speed without going into the BIOS? Thanks.
vast meadow
Hello, I have a problem. My RAM is currently running on 2133MHz instead of 3200M...
youll need to get into bios, you should be able to by mashing delete or f2 on startup or doing shift click the restart button in windows, then troubleshooting, then uefi
obtuse estuary
youll need to get into bios, you should be able to by mashing delete or f2 on st...
Ah okay, thanks!
errant grail
is 40c on idle good for my cpu?
vast meadow
its fine
tough mason
question about ram speeds, i purchased some ram recently and it's speed is 3600 MHz, but the ram in my computer is 3200 MHz. will combining them be an issue? if so, is there a way to slow the 3600 MHz ram down?
(for context, i purchased the ram thinking i would make a custom build, but purchased a prebuilt a few days later)
cerulean wadi
question about ram speeds, i purchased some ram recently and it's speed is 3600 ...
So make sure ram is on the right slots/channels on mobo, then you'll probably have to go into bios and adjust the settings so all ram is at 3200mhz. Someone else might be able to explain or instruct better, sorry.
tough mason
ok. thanks. if i could get some deeper instruction sometime later on how to do that properly, please hmu
cerulean wadi
No problem. Which mobo? I'm looking up basic bios pics to describe a bit what I mean.
tough mason
can we take this to dms?
that way i can access the info without having to dig thru miles of text later
cerulean wadi
sure
cerulean wadi
its fine
Pato how bad is mixed ram sets? Example would be: current pair 3200mhz new pair 3600mhz. I'm not sure about simply setting the general memory multiplier to make it all 3200mhz and calling it good.
tough hearth
anybody looking for or able to get any DDR5?
cursive epoch
anybody looking for or able to get any DDR5?
Just return your ddr5 board and get ddr4 one, then you can buy ddr4 ram for much less but as good as ddr5 atm
halcyon otter
Hello guys i am from india but my uncle is in usa and is buying ram for my pc which is just almost half the price but i have a question about a certain product https://www.newegg.com/GeIL/BrandStore/ID-1687 this says it's for AMD but i own a 10700f and a b460 i was wondering if it will work with my hardware
dense frost
memory will work anywhere
halcyon otter
so it will work with my 10700f even tho it says it is amd ?
dense frost
yes
cerulean wadi
It's just a label that it is ok for AMD cpu+mobo (can be picky w/ ram). What you showed can be used w/ Intel also. 👍 👍
halcyon otter
Thanks alot
vast meadow
question about ram speeds, i purchased some ram recently and it's speed is 3600 ...
Yes most likely
vast meadow
Pato how bad is mixed ram sets? Example would be: current pair 3200mhz new pair...
Bad, mix the same kit can be okay but I'd never mix different kits
Especially different speeds and timings
vast meadow
Most likely to be bad?
Bad
tough mason
Damn. So, should I try and sell the ones that come with the prebuilt?
vast meadow
Damn. So, should I try and sell the ones that come with the prebuilt?
I would, or just return the new ram especially if it's 3600cl18 and not cl16
cerulean wadi
Thnx for the extra feedback. Sorry Beagle, just want to give ya less chance of having issues. mobo really likes identical ram sticks.
tough mason
Thanks again you two. I got everything ready to get a refund on the sticks, and I purchased an identical pair for $10 more
vast meadow
Thanks again you two. I got everything ready to get a refund on the sticks, and ...
Np, that's way more likely to work but run test mem 5 extreme anta profile (ram stress test) and make sure you get no errors, when you get the kit
tough mason
Uh, if you don’t mind, can you explain that in depth a little bit? I have no idea how to run those tests
vast meadow
Uh, if you don’t mind, can you explain that in depth a little bit? I have no ide...
You just download it, set the profile and let it do it's thing for a few hours
pale fox
5600x good for a cpu?
burnt spear
5600x good for a cpu?
depends on the gpu youre pairing with it and what youre doing, and what resolution monitor you have/are getting
for gaming youre fine with really any gpu, including a 3090 at 1440p (whos running a 3090 at 1080p anyways)
pale fox
Is it good for multitasking?
burnt spear
such as?
pale fox
Playing games at high quailty settings and watching YouTube in 1080p he settings
burnt spear
as i said depends on the gpu
cerulean wadi
Chrome 20 tabs while gamin, no.
burnt spear
but you should be fine with up to a 3080 at 1080p doing that
pale fox
as i said depends on the gpu
1650 4gb
burnt spear
you can
as i said depends on what you need to do
if you dont play demanding games a 1650 is fine
if you plan to play the new cod, a new gpu might be in order
if you plan to video edit, same thing
it purely depends on you
cerulean wadi
Gpu market is jacked. A decent upgrade could be a gtx 980 or 1070. Decent meaning price. Tough out there.
naive pendant
I'm planning on getting my pc soon and idk if I should go for a ryzen 5 5600x or a 7 5800x I have a 3070 and I'm planning on gaming a streaming. Anyone have any advice?
pale fox
The ryzen 5 5600x is pretty good
burnt spear
I'm planning on getting my pc soon and idk if I should go for a ryzen 5 5600x o...
nvidias nvenc will help with streaming
i had no issues with streaming on a 3600 and 3060 ti using nvenc
you should be fine with the 5600x
pale fox
i had no issues with streaming on a 3600 and 3060 ti using nvenc
Your 3600 must be bloody hot
burnt spear
no not really
naive pendant
Ok thank you
burnt spear
also that was streaming cod cold war at max settings with low rtx in multi player
or max settings no rtx on zombies
pale fox
@burnt spear when I had my 3600 I was getting temps at 80°c
pale fox
Lol
burnt spear
while playing val
burnt spear
what cooler
pale fox
Amd stock cooler
burnt spear
that aint right
there is no way youre getting under 85c under full load
and thats being generous
pale fox
😅
burnt spear
what are you using to view temps
pale fox
let me pull up hwinfo
^^^
burnt spear
idk what youre looking at
but there is no way thats right
5000 series runs extremely hot
especially with a stock cooler
pale fox
I mean its oc
burnt spear
youre ocing it???
pale fox
Yeah
burnt spear
no way youre under 90c lmao
you need an aio if youre ocing
or a very high end heatsink
devout mothBOT
Posty#7969 has been warned
hollow thorn
@burnt spear unless it's more of a uc
For example, let's say base clock is 3.6ghz, but the CPU boosts to 4.6ghz on its own, and you 'oc' it to 4.3ghz at 1.2v, you're using lower clocks and lower voltage than what it was boosting to
burnt spear
yeah but i still doubt it would get such low temps
cerulean wadi
hollow thorn
yeah but i still doubt it would get such low temps
I get 100c almost immediately if I go for 4.3ghz at 1.4v on my 3800x w smallfft, I get closer to 80c with 4ghz at 1.225v
Just example
cerulean wadi
That extra. .18v above 1.2ish is a stinker huh.
hollow thorn
Just a warning, please don't do 1.4v on zen 2, I was doing that for some quick benching
But well, the chip was already degraded and I degraded it some more
languid cradle
Yo i am getting a r3800x, is the wraith cooler enough for it or do yall think i need a better cooler?
jovial charm
if im having troubles getting a elite series 2 controller to connect to my pc via bluetooth, does that mean i need to update my bluetooth drivers? or is it a different problem?
jovial charm
Yo i am getting a r3800x, is the wraith cooler enough for it or do yall think i ...
why a 3800x is my question?
languid cradle
Idek tbh
jovial charm
if you need 8 cores, just get a 5800x
languid cradle
Was told 5600x was better so im noy sure yet
jovial charm
just get a 5600x then
languid cradle
Thing is my dad might have already bought the 3800x 💀 but im still happy no matter what
its a big upgrade over my 2600x
jovial charm
welp...
3800x is kinga old already, and it appears you dont need the extra 2 cores if all you plan on doing is gaming
5600x supports PCIe Gen 4 and has higher clocks i believe
jovial charm
yeah, maybe see if your dad already got it? 5600x is cheaper too
you'd be much better off with it
itll keep you floating for a while
@languid cradleooo, does your mobo support ryzen 5000?
vernal cosmos
<@!362386596135174155>ooo, does your mobo support ryzen 5000?
Already done
jovial charm
hmm?
languid cradle
<@!362386596135174155>ooo, does your mobo support ryzen 5000?
Should- its a x470 from asus
jovial charm
no, b550 x570
vernal cosmos
no, b550 x570
Almsot all X470 boards can do zen 3 with bios update lol
jovial charm
but youd gain nothing by doing so, no pcie gen 4
so basically no point in getting ryzen 5000
vernal cosmos
Its almost like a 5600x beats the 3800x at single core and matches it in multi core
Making the perf better
Its almost like no consumer device can saturate a pcie gen 3 link either
@jovial charm
Gen 4 is pretty much useless either way lol
Zen 3 is a massive improvement over zen 2
And very worth it
Lol
vast meadow
Yo i am getting a r3800x, is the wraith cooler enough for it or do yall think i ...
Don't get a 3800x unless you're getting it dirt cheap
vast meadow
Was told 5600x was better so im noy sure yet
Yes
main pulsar
Yes
cerulean wadi
Good riddance
misty obsidian
come see daddy
vast meadow
come see daddy
D4 i assume?
misty obsidian
yeah ddr4
vast meadow
yeah ddr4
Fyi you might have issues with your ram, gigabyte z690 have been having some memory training issues
misty obsidian
memory training ?
a message like this ?
I just want to run XMP
DDR4 3600 (PC4 28800)
Timing 14-15-15-35
CAS Latency 14
Voltage 1.45V
Yeah like faster ram not working
vast meadow
I just want to run XMP
Yeahhhhhhhhhh i haven't seen faster than 3600cl16 work
misty obsidian
wtf ahaha
vast meadow
wtf ahaha
Idk why.. you might need to cancel) return for a non gigabyte board until they fix this issue
misty obsidian
gotta hand it to them, they're not being cryptic in their changelog messages
cerulean wadi
This was a decent price, but $212ish sealed from Amazon isn't much more 😅
finite elm
This was a decent price, but $212ish sealed from Amazon isn't much more 😅
200$ at microcenter
dim cloak
Is $200 for a 10700k a good price?
vast meadow
Is $200 for a 10700k a good price?
Yeah
dim cloak
Ok sweet gonna snag that deal
vast meadow
Nice cop yeah
dim cloak
Its gonna go into my older brothers rig (previously my old rig with a I5-9400F and 16gb 2666mhz with GTX 1660)
vast meadow
Niceee
cerulean wadi
That's a pretty fine upgrade there.
finite elm
Is $200 for a 10700k a good price?
Yes
cerulean wadi
Lol, sometimes there's an echo
finite elm
Tbh I'd take the 10700k and give your brother the 11600k xP
smoky widget
@dim cloak Also, if you need a MOBO Microcenter has that too, and 20 dollars off if you buy them at the same time
cerulean wadi
200$ at microcenter
Instore only I figure. Nearest store is a 7+ hr round trip. 5% back at a certain website also.
finite elm
Instore only I figure. Nearest store is a 7+ hr round trip. 5% back at a certain...
Yeah in store only
dim cloak
<@!529575874278850571> Also, if you need a MOBO Microcenter has that too, and 20...
Already have a z490 set aside and i live 2 states away from MicroCenter
cerulean wadi
I might as well be. Not very North, but few good tech stores nearby lately. Frys Electronics bit the dust almost a year ago. Best buy isn't the same
smoky widget
I might as well be. Not very North, but few good tech stores nearby lately. Frys...
It is sad, here in Socal there were a few Fry's
cerulean wadi
Ikr, had 3 or 4 around Sacramento. I'm 50-55min from there
vast meadow
Tbh I'd take the 10700k and give your brother the 11600k xP
nah id take a 10700k over 11600k any day of the week
especially for same price
cerulean wadi
nah id take a 10700k over 11600k any day of the week
Echo again.
vast meadow
lol
finite elm
nah id take a 10700k over 11600k any day of the week
Nah I think he should take the 10700k and give his brother the 11600k
vast meadow
Nah I think he should take the 10700k and give his brother the 11600k
ohhhhh yeah they should considering the render a lot yeah
dim cloak
Im getting myself a 12700k this week and the 11600k is going to someone else
finite elm
ah thats fair I guess
vast meadow
Im getting myself a 12700k this week and the 11600k is going to someone else
even better
dim cloak
I have most of this stuff planned
finite elm
even better
I was gonna say that eventually
dim cloak
Im also giving the 9400f to a friend with a i5-2400
vast meadow
Jeeez
cerulean wadi
Dang, legit decade old cpu. (I still have a E8400 system up and running) . Props for giving away a good cpu.
dim cloak
Yeah and i didnt want the 9400f to go to dust pile so im giving it a home it needs
finite elm
Dang, legit decade old cpu. (I still have a E8400 system up and running) <:Yiker...
I don't think anyone would want an fx 6300 I could give away. who knows
cerulean wadi
Never know. Won't bother selling this z77 setup, it'll just be a spare internet/flix spare rig.
dim cloak
Hes gonna give me his 2400 so i can turn it into a server for us to share our files that we use to make our racing sim
vast meadow
I don't think anyone would want an fx 6300 I could give away. who knows
My dad uses my old fx6300 just for office pc stuff but when i upgrade gonna give him by 3600
finite elm
I dunno anyone who just does simple office tasks tbh
I don't have friends, my grandparents are all dead, my dad plays games, my mom uses a macbook, etc
misty obsidian
@vast meadow So far so good, gigabyte motherboard running 3200 c14 memory
getting my new ram tomorrow
3600 c14, will see if XMP runs well
shy wyvern
$300 12700k at the Denver microcenter... Holy crap
Ngl half tempted to drive over and upgrade lol
misty obsidian
@vast meadow 3600 c14 ram doesn't get past XMP with this https://www.newegg.ca/gigabyte-z690-aorus-elite-ax-ddr4/p/N82E16813145350
I put the main timing by hand and it started tho
I bluescreened while booting then started fine
I think I'll have to play with more secondary timings to get it to work properly...
I set the memory to "gear 1" in the bios, with 14-15-15-35 main timing
1.45v
vast meadow
<@!191276897227898880> 3600 c14 ram doesn't get past XMP with this https://www.n...
Did you update the bios?
vast meadow
I set the memory to "gear 1" in the bios, with 14-15-15-35 main timing
Try upping vccsa voltage
vast meadow
Now I'm somewhat scared to reboot lmao
Nah don't be
hollow thorn
I set the memory to "gear 1" in the bios, with 14-15-15-35 main timing
try it at gear 2, I know sometimes they have issues with going over 3600 on ddr4 at gear 1, maybe need gear 2
misty obsidian
gear is new to me
reading about this here https://www.techpowerup.com/280720/gear-1-can-lead-to-performance-loss-on-intel-rocket-lake-11th-gen-processors
there's cases where gear 2 is just better ?
Ill try it later
misty obsidian
So I rebooted and it wont start anymore lol
Interesting how the motherboard ran a bunch of benchmarks and everything was okay at 3600 cas14
Unsure what to try next, this exact setup worked earlier
misty obsidian
Try upping vccsa voltage
vccsa to 1.28 it boots again now
unsure if that's way too high tho
vast meadow
Nah 1.28v is fine
shy wyvern
I have mine at like 1.4 LOL
Only way to get ddr4 4000 cl16 x4 to not error out in memtest on my memory controller
burnt spear
I have mine at like 1.4 LOL
1.4 is safe for intel right?
Intel can handle higher voltage iirc?
shy wyvern
Yeah
misty obsidian
Tried turning on xmp and running memtest on a gigabyte board and it didnt go well
Turned off xmp and now its looking better
6 minutes zero error
Cat running mem tests
shy wyvern
Getting 2000 errors in 1min of memtest
You want 0 errors from unlimited amount of time
Surprised you have that many tbh
Dumbfounds me how it even boots
Windows can only correct for so many before it fails
misty obsidian
I turned off xmp and now theres still zero
shy wyvern
Yeah you probably just have a bad stick in there that won't run XMP
Run both/all 4 (idk how many you have) individually for memtest
misty obsidian
The motherboard I have is renowned for sucking at running xmp
shy wyvern
What board?
misty obsidian
Wish I had bought another one lol
shy wyvern
Is it like an h510 board or something
misty obsidian
Gigabyte z690 elite ax
shy wyvern
Alright what
That thing should be able to handle ddr4 4000 at least with 2 sticks
My $190 z690 board can run 2 x ddr4 4400
misty obsidian
Yeah idk whats wrong with it. Theres a ton of people on reddit complaining
shy wyvern
What CPU btw? Am curious
Are you in gear 2 btw?
Have you tried gear 1? 12600k+ should be able to match 3600mhz in gear 1 no issues
shy wyvern
Do gear 2
misty obsidian
14 15 15 35
shy wyvern
Your board + CPU may not like gear 1 for anything over 3200
misty obsidian
15 minutes no error so far
shy wyvern
For gear 2?
misty obsidian
Gear1
misty obsidian
Yep, I think ill just go to bed and leave it running
Is that bad for ram or something
shy wyvern
Nah
I left memtest running on a custom for 18 hours to ensure my speed + timings was good
If you wake up to even a single error it's not stable
If there are none when you wake up should be good to go
misty obsidian
Cool, Ill let you know how it went 👍
shy wyvern
Microsoft literally broke task manager in the new windows update
My 12600k is showing 100% usage all the time
So I got curious and opened XTU
XTU says just a few percentage usage...
burnt spear
Is that good ?
No
shy wyvern
Task manager is literally splitting things based of of what % of the total utilization being used, not % utilization if that makes sense.
burnt spear
Task manager messes up displaying usage very often
shy wyvern
Idek how they manage to break it that bad
burnt spear
It shows 10% gpu usage when playing warzone and cold war
shy wyvern
Oh it can't read GPUs well
shy wyvern
But CPU and ram have always been decently accurate
burnt spear
W11 or 10?
burnt spear
Prolly why
shy wyvern
Kinda be the big silly to run 10
burnt spear
W11 has so many bugs
shy wyvern
It does and it annoys me
shy wyvern
Well you have 3rd gen Ryzen so you're good lol
burnt spear
But I doubt it will
The next cpu upgrade I do will probably be 7th gen ryzen or 14th gen intel
shy wyvern
Next gen Ryzen shouldn't have efficiency cores yet, right?
burnt spear
If I do
shy wyvern
So that'd probably be good on windows 10
burnt spear
Idk
shy wyvern
I hate that they won't update the windows 11 scheduler
burnt spear
I'm still not sure if I'll upgrade my desktop before I'm off to a college dorm
Where I won't have room for a proper setup
cursive epoch
Ryzen won't have big.little tech for a while
shy wyvern
Making windows 10 compatible with all Android apps legitimately
burnt spear
I'm still excited for CES 2022
shy wyvern
Made me the big sad that I updated to windows 11
cursive epoch
I'm on win 11 cause I like it
shy wyvern
I'm on windows 11 because alder lake and for Android app support
burnt spear
I'm on w10 because of how bug filled w11 seems, and I honestly like it
shy wyvern
I do most my stuff on Android
burnt spear
I haven't had any major issues
shy wyvern
Like 70%
burnt spear
Other than me being stupid
cursive epoch
w11 has almost no glitches from my experience
shy wyvern
So I replaced my windows laptop with an S7 tablet today
burnt spear
I've seen atleast a dozen from friends
cursive epoch
Just only had one once
shy wyvern
Since I use my phone in dex mode a lot
burnt spear
And I don't have many friends on w11
Though whenever I buy my laptop it'll have w11 from manu
So I'll see how it is myself then
shy wyvern
Are windows 11 keys backwards compatible with windows 10?
burnt spear
Holy *** its later than I thought
shy wyvern
Or is it just 10 to 11
shy wyvern
4th year in University :)
burnt spear
Not sure
cerulean wadi
Are windows 11 keys backwards compatible with windows 10?
You mean use a Win 11 key to go to Win 10 ? Idk, I just have a couple Win 7 keys, LuL
misty obsidian
vast meadow
Btw mem test 86 isn't the best, I'd run test mem 5 extreme anta profile to be sure
burnt spear
So it looks like 6000 series releasing at CES 2022 will be zen 3+
Not zen4
However it will run on ddr5
Sorta like 4000 series
burnt spear
Got an article for that?
I was looking at them last night
Let me see if I can find them again
burnt spear
Hmmmm
This was one of them https://www.pcgamer.com/amds-ryzen-6000-series-rumored-to-be-in-mass-production-but-may-not-be-zen-4/
This one rhats from September also calls it zen3+
cursive epoch
i don't believe that rumor much
burnt spear
It would make sense to me
Why else would they release the apus before the desktop cpus then
Of the same gen
cursive epoch
the apus are likely mobile first
burnt spear
Yeah
burnt spear
Why else would they release the apus before the desktop cpus then
That's why I said this
Idk, I guess we'll see
Less than a month to go, assuming they drop them at CES
main pulsar
they usually release the apus much later in the release cycle. so it would make sense that these are zen3+ APUs
these chips may be the answer to the gpu shortage if that navi 2 based iGPU is pog enough
cursive epoch
it is
leaks suggests 1650 perf
and that's coming from a laptop too in the benchmark leak
but this is only geekbench scores so far
misty obsidian
Kinda confused about the speeds on here
seems a lot slower than most
Are there apps where I can compare the bench results with others with similar specs ?
most people I see are getting better reads
also, why is the L1 cache so high on other older CPUs ?
misty obsidian
Are there benchmarks I can look at to compare somewhere ?
The fact everybody has different motherboard gens, cpu and RAM makes this hard lol
main pulsar
does alder lake have an IMC thats compatible with both DDR4 and 5, or do the DDR4 boards have their own memory controllers
also ion think memory latency really matters, as long as its not atrocious
vast meadow
does alder lake have an IMC thats compatible with both DDR4 and 5, or do the DDR...
To my knowledge the imc is just compatible with both
vast meadow
Dammm
misty obsidian
The motherboard has a mode to disable the "e-cores", I'm thinking of trying that and upping the CPU multiplier a bit
see if that helps with the score
unsure tho
dim cloak
Im now excited to see my score when i get my new cpu
misty obsidian
Im now excited to see my score when i get my new cpu
well it's a different CPU and GPU and ram here
but the CPU score is so much higher by itself
5615 vs 16597
dim cloak
Ik but to see such decent scores im hyper for my test cause the only real change will be my cpu which is tested on and since i have 128gb of 3600mhz cl16 ram i should be happy
misty obsidian
4 cores vs 12 cores actually giving 3x the performance lol
damn that's a lot of ram ahaha
dim cloak
I need more
misty obsidian
What are you using it for ?
dim cloak
My minecraft is being limited by ram and gpu again
misty obsidian
Hosting servers or actually running the game ?
dim cloak
Running game
cerulean wadi
4 cores vs 12 cores actually giving 3x the performance lol
I go up 2 cores each upgrade lol. Next is a 10/11gen i5.
dim cloak
Shaders, giant loaded world and as well as highly detailed resource packs and i mean a lot of them too
cerulean wadi
Funny how resource intensive a game is when it looks like high definition legos
dim cloak
I also do rendering and video editing
long geyser
Shaders, giant loaded world and as well as highly detailed resource packs and i ...
Idk, I run at 32 render distance with Sildur shaders maxed out (apart from shadow distance as I also use RTed shadows for extended shadow distance) at 6GB and Im fine. 70 - 160fps in 99.9% of scenarios.
I use fabric mod loader with Cull leaves, Enhanced Block Entities, Entity Culling, Iris, Lithium, Sodium, Sodium Extra, and Starlight for shader/perf mods
Never really limited by RAM, and you probably dont want to be cuz GC becomes an issue at high RAM
dim cloak
Continuum 2.1.12b with Realistic grass, 2048x stratum, realistic animals, custom armor and tools, music disc change, and on occasions i use vr
Max render distance as well with shader almost fully maxed out
graceful bronze
Anyone awake that could help me?
vast meadow
Anyone awake that could help me?
!ask
devout mothBOT
cerulean wadi
!ask
That 10400 has gotten to be a real great price & bang for buck recently. Wish I could time travel and see how the 12 gen i5 or some 12400 P-core only model does. Anyways, 10gen setup looks like a nice $300ish upgrade.
ripe marsh
My acer nitro 5 2020 mother board is fired up . Can i get a new one .
Pls bring any contact details if you have
vast meadow
My acer nitro 5 2020 mother board is fired up . Can i get a new one .
Pls bring ...
Fired up?
ripe marsh
Fired up?
Yah. I plugged in to a extension cable. But its earth wire is damaged. It get my laptops motherboard get fired up
No pc no lap now. Its very risky to manage my works@vast meadow
vast meadow
Yah. I plugged in to a extension cable. But its earth wire is damaged. It get my...
Uhhhh if its a laptop you're gonna have to see if Acer can repair
ripe marsh
Its warranty is out . Only for 1 year. I didnt known about warranty extending facility. I contacted acer. But they are helpless
Without warranty they cant do nothing
vast meadow
Its warranty is out . Only for 1 year. I didnt known about warranty extending fa...
Doesn't have to be in warranty they might do the repair for a fee
Then you're basically screwed
ripe marsh
I consulted them after few days. They returned it. Only motherborad replacemwnt is the only way
cerulean wadi
I should've bid on this. Nvrm, just noticed $25 shipping lol. Way to close to retail box
burnt spear
Corsair made 6400c36 ddr5
grizzled bloom
Yeah but it's still only in their lab and not on shelves. That's a big step in the right direction, though.
finite elm
I'll wait for 8000mhz CL40 DDR5. should be possible....one day
misty obsidian
Nice ! Managed to sell my 7700k/mobo/ram/cpucooler combo for 600cad
That brings down the upgrade price nicely
finite elm
Ye
dim cloak
Imagine the thermals on that oh lord
vast meadow
doesnt look that chonky for a 5950x
dusk prism
Hey guys, total newb here. I was hoping for a little help. I want to upgrade my ram for my older desktop and need some guidance. Processor deets are.... Intel(R) Core(TM) i5-2400 CPU @ 3.10GHz, 3101 Mhz, 4 Core(s), 4 Logical Processor(s)
I think it supports ddr3, 1333/1066HZ? non eec, but I don't understand what that means or what other specs may be compatible or not. Any suggestions would be welcome. Thank you.
BTW... If this is the wrong area to post this, please direct me.
hollow thorn
Hey guys, total newb here. I was hoping for a little help. I want to upgrade m...
Hey, do you know what motherboard you have?
elfin yew
would there be a difference ifI get 16 gb 3200 16gb 3000
limber dragon
depends on timings, but generally no
cerulean wadi
Well it'll just all have to be 3k, or the 3k set will be OC'd up to 3200. Also, timings need to be set identical.
limber dragon
ig Chris also forgot to add if its "would there be a difference ifI get 16 gb 3200 or 16gb 3000" or "would there be a difference ifI get 16 gb 3200 and 16gb 3000"
vernal cosmos
@stiff kraken 1usmus dropped new ryzen oc app
limber dragon
stiff kraken
oh no
naive pendant
5600x vs 5700g
is the 5700g equal or better then the 5600x when using a GPU instead of the integrated graphics
vast meadow
If you already have gpu 5600x
naive pendant
i dont have a GPU, but i dont want to wait any longer to get build a PC...i am hoping to eventually get a GPU
but rn theyre non-existant
ive been without a PC since august 2020
devout mothBOT
British Empire#7883 has been warned
sweet urchin
Is it possible to create custom motherboards?
like
say if i wanted a custom motherboard for a console, and i wanted to make one with a powerful processor and good RAM
rocky beacon
Sure, but insanely hard
You would have to learn electrical engineering and designing and PCB engineering and design
Many people have built single board computers before
sweet urchin
ok, so it is possible for someone to create me custom motherboards that have powerful processors and good RAM?
rocky beacon
Yeah, but if you were to pay someone to design and engineer that im sure it would cost a stupid amount of money
sweet urchin
Yeah, but if you were to pay someone to design and engineer that im sure it woul...
how much though?
rocky beacon
I cant even imagine
Many hundreds
Single board computers (SBC) are one thing but anything socketed would be even more expensive and crazy
For anything modern at least
sweet urchin
i'm seeing these people put insane stuff in things that shouldn't fit it
i'm thinking of turning everyone's wii's into windows 10 monsters
or since windows 11 is rolling out soon, maybe windows 11 monsters
cursive epoch
it's not soon
i've been using windows 11 for a few months
stable version too
iirc it has been out in november
also well you can do that with itx mobo
provided some drilling is required
digital kernel
how much though?
Tens, maybe hundreds of thousands
And that's just design, you then need to have them fabricated
And places that will fab custom multilayer high frequency boards aren't cheap
hollow thorn
I mean, it shouldn't be too expensive if you go to a mobo manufacturer like MSI and ask them for a custom design, might still cost you 100k, but hey, it'll work
digital kernel
Electronics are weird. The raw materials and actual manufacturing costs are relatively low. Design and setting up the manufacturing line is where a lot of the cost comes from
vernal cosmos
i dont have a GPU, but i dont want to wait any longer to get build a PC...i am h...
Then with only a 5600x your pc wont even work
Since no integrated graphics
5700g is what you should get
smoky widget
Or buy a prebuilt @naive pendant
vast meadow
i dont have a GPU, but i dont want to wait any longer to get build a PC...i am h...
Then get either an i5 11400 or ryzen 5 5600g
frail coral
Hi I am ordering the MSI MAG B560 Tomahawk WiFi Gaming Motherboard and want to know if I order 2 16gb of ram will it work or do I need to 4 slots of 8gb
regal lichen
hi guy is DDR5 32gb 6000mhz for $469 USD reasonable?
vast meadow
Hi I am ordering the MSI MAG B560 Tomahawk WiFi Gaming Motherboard and want to k...
2x16 is good to go
frail coral
Thank you
vast meadow
hi guy is DDR5 32gb 6000mhz for $469 USD reasonable?
I'm gonna go with no, basically all ddr5 is overpriced and little to no effect on performance, possibly being beaten out by fast ddr4
Np
frail coral
Corsair Vengeance RGB Pro 32GB (2x16GB) DDR4 3200 (PC4-25600)
That’s what I’m looking to start with and then in a few months adding another 32g
vast meadow
That’s what I’m looking to start with and then in a few months adding another 32...
Corsair is a terrible choice if you want to add more ram down the line they use a handful of different ram chips and it's messy as well they're usually very overpriced, and why would you even need 64gb ram? 32gb is already overkill for most
vast meadow
Theres better options, what country what cpu is it for and do you even need 32gb of ram let alone 64gb?
frail coral
Let me list my build. Standby
MB: MSI MAG B560 Tomahawk WiFi Gaming Motherboard (ATX, 11th/10th Gen Intel Core, LGA 1200 Socket, DDR4, CFX, M.2 Slots, USB 3.2 Gen 2, 2.5G LAN, DP/HDMI, Wi-Fi 6E, Mystic Light RGB)
Storage: WD_BLACK 1TB AN1500 NVMe Internal Gaming Solid State Drive SSD Add-In-Card - Gen3 PCIe, Up to 6500 MB/s - WDS100T1X0L
Procc: Intel Core i5-10400F Desktop Processor 6 Cores up to 4.3 GHz Without Processor Graphics LGA1200
PSU: Cooler Master V750 Gold White Edition V2 Full Modular,750W, 80+ Gold Efficiency
Video: GIGABYTE AORUS Radeon RX 6700 XT ELITE 12G Graphics Card
This is my first build for my son who is 16 and games.
I play COD and he plays a bunch of games currently on PC but he wants to get more into gaming. He plays ARC, Fallout and GTA.
Trying not to overspend
vast meadow
This is my first build for my son who is 16 and games.
I play COD and he plays ...
Okay, are you in the us?
frail coral
The router is on the other side of the house unless I run a direct line.
Pardon my Noob ness. First build in the works
frail coral
You’re awesome. Thanks
vast meadow
No problem
frail coral
One last thing. I didn’t see a video card on the list.
vast meadow
One last thing. I didn’t see a video card on the list.
Yeah just whatever one you where going to use
silent sedge
Hi
if I need to add more ram later on , what type of ram is the best for this laptop?
vast meadow
Hi
https://www.newegg.com/core-black-msi-gf-series-gf65-thin-10ue-092-gaming-en...
https://www.bestbuy.com/site/msi-gf65-15-6-144hz-gaming-laptop-intel-core-i5-nvidia-geforce-rtx3060-512gb-ssd-8gb-memory-black/6456144.p?skuId=6456144 I'd get it at best buy for 120$ less but it's decent yeah I'd just add an 8gb stick of 3200mhz or something just make sure it's a sodimm
crimson egret
So my aunt was getting me 32gb of vengeance RGB pro cl16 ddr4-3200 RAM and she accidentally got 2 packs so is it okay to use all 4 sticks in a PC for a total of 64 gigs?
vast meadow
So my aunt was getting me 32gb of vengeance RGB pro cl16 ddr4-3200 RAM and she a...
Should be fine just run test mem 5 extreme1 anta77 profile to make sure it's stable because corsair are known for using many different ram dies(chips) and mixing them can cause errors
devout mothBOT
Mateo#6763 has been warned
crimson egret
Should be fine just run test mem 5 extreme1 anta77 profile to make sure it's sta...
K tysm
vast meadow
Np
cerulean wadi
Well there's some deals around if one has Ebay or similar. Apparently bunch of people reselling 1 item from their Newegg bundles, Haha
tame ore
dose anyone have a good website that has a good deal on 16gig ddr4 ram
rocky beacon
Newegg
tame ore
ive seen the prices and it seems a little pricy for 16 gigs
vernal cosmos
tame ore
thank you
cerulean wadi
semi-modern setup here I come.
cerulean wadi
11700k?
Possibly, but probably i5. Although, would be cool to double cores again (2 to 4 to 8) & obviously I go a long time before upgrading. I'll keep watching Ebay and checking prices on other sites. ddr4 is pretty steady so no rush on that.
brisk lion
i got a problem with my psu or motherboard eveytime i push my mobo down it makes a weird electrical or buzzing noice or smth and it doesnt boot up anymore
can somebody help me
vast meadow
!ask
devout mothBOT
vast meadow
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/yYGcZZ
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/V928RT I'd do this assuming you have a gpu already?
oak prawn
I don’t have a gpu
vast meadow
I don’t have a gpu
You have budget for one?
Also I'd go different cpu then
Pc won't turn on without a graphics card or integrated graphics
oak prawn
Yes I know
So I already have this
And the 5600
Can you put together a build that lights up and runs good with the parts I got please?
@vast meadow
vast meadow
Can you put together a build that lights up and runs good with the parts I got p...
You'll need to find a gpu or return the 5600x and get a 5600g for the pc to turn on at all
vast meadow
Yeah but all you have atm is a pile of parts, focus on getting the gpu first or return then 5600x for a 5600g or return everything and buy a prebuilt
vast meadow
What is a good gpu for it?
depends on your budget?
vast meadow
uhhh like 3060/3060 ti
oak prawn
Which is better ?
vast meadow
3060 ti but harder to get for 600
oak prawn
Can you send me a link?
vast meadow
Can you send me a link?
stock is not good atm, best bet is to check pins in #graphics-cards
vast meadow
also 6600xt/6700xt as 3060/3060 ti equivalent
finite elm
6700xt sells for too high though 😦
vast meadow
6700xt sells for too high though 😦
not if lucky enough to get from amd :)
shy wyvern
Alright so gamers Nexus made an interesting piece today
Having the ecores enabled lowers gaming performance because of the ring frequency dipping from 4.7 to 3.4 GHz when they're enabled
That being said, if I over clock the ring ratio up more will anything weird happen with the ecores?
shy wyvern
Your hopes of getting the $600 3060ti without the shuffle are kinda low tbh. Just keep entering the Newegg shuffle and pray your luck is better than mine
I'm betting I'm losing shuffle #40 as well, they haven't sent the email yet
shy wyvern
That being said, if I over clock the ring ratio up more will anything weird happ...
Seems stable with +100mhz on ecore +400 on ring
finite elm
Your hopes of getting the $600 3060ti without the shuffle are kinda low tbh. Jus...
EVGA FTW3 is 529$ at best buy and microcenter when in stock.
shy wyvern
I have never seen any in stock at my local microcenter
I've actually never seen anything but 3090/6900XT or $350 1050tis or $200 1030's there LOL
shy wyvern
LOL
finite elm
That's where I bought my 3060 ti in my itx PC
shy wyvern
imagine a 3080 FE at a microcenter 
cerulean wadi
Most south I've been was San Jose for a few LAN parties. nearest MC is a good 5 hours one way last I checked.
shy wyvern
That's where I bought my 3060 ti in my itx PC
Which microcenter? I may take a roadtrip
finite elm
St Louis park in Minnesota
shy wyvern
I live 20 minutes from the Denver microcenter and they never have anything good
finite elm
Oof
When i get my tax returns. If i get a good amount I'll probably go to Microcenter and look.
shy wyvern
I'm driving to Kansas City in 2 weeks to eat a sandwich, I may drive the extra 6 or so hours and go to St Louis
I'm desperate for a GPU atm
finite elm
I'm driving to Kansas City in 2 weeks to eat a sandwich, I may drive the extra 6...
St Louis park, MN. Not ST Louis Missouri
cerulean wadi
yikes
shy wyvern
Gross
shy wyvern
cerulean wadi
Heck, some tickets are pretty cheap. Not a bad idea for a $500+ purchase
finite elm
I'm fairly certain instate flights in ca are just as common as they are in Texas.
cerulean wadi
yep, but Sac is the usual place to leave from and it's 45 miles from me...... so there's $20+ in fuel if I parked my truck there.
finite elm
they get shipments sometime between Friday and sunday. I'd suggest asking an employee which day they get them in
cerulean wadi
Perhaps when you're 12 minutes away. showing up at 6am is why I work evenings though, if you get my drift
cerulean wadi
32GB gang. Floppa shall be proud
shy wyvern
they get shipments sometime between Friday and sunday. I'd suggest asking an emp...
Last time I did that I was told they're not allowed to tell us days
they also removed their phone number from google maps to avoid people from asking
upper rose
32GB gang. Floppa shall be proud
thank you chillen
this was more necessary than a video card
but then i’ll get a modular power supply
regal lichen
Hey which ram is better Gskill trident Z5 RGB DDR5 5600 or Corsair Vengeance DDR5 5200?
regal lichen
Because I’m old and I don’t think I’ll build another pc after this so just splurging now
split copper
DDR5 now might not be good enough compared to DDR4 at this point
It needs to mature and get faster
cursive epoch
^
I get you want no compromises, but it's not worth splurging at all when ddr4 is as good
And much cheaper
regal lichen
Yeah but when DDR5 is ready, you will need to buy a new mobo
split copper
Tru
regal lichen
And then there will be DDR6 so it’s kind of the same situation again
cursive epoch
That's not gonna be compatible with early stuff in ddr5
split copper
Might be worth it to sit with some mediocre DDR5 for a while and then perform a much less involved upgrade
cursive epoch
Cause well, memory controllers in older cpus couldn't handle it
cursive epoch
Besides by the time ddr5 matures we wouldn't even have same socket, I'd bet
At least with Intel
regal lichen
I know for gaming DDR4 and 5 are not much differences
But outside of gaming and down the road there will be
cursive epoch
Even in non gaming, there's no difference
If there is I would've had some consideration for it, but nah
regal lichen
So what we should go with DDR4 and when things mature and time for an upgrade we replace the mobo?
cerulean wadi
Aren't California trips supposed to take like 10-12 lmao
That's 7 hrs 1 way. Was gonna add "not with me driving" haha
split copper
lmao
viscid jolt
any good amd mobo suggestions?
hollow thorn
for what CPU
shy wyvern
F*** me guys
Holy hell I'm Stoopid
I just updated my bios without writing down my overclock values
I have no clue what anything was set to
hollow thorn
ono
shy wyvern
I spent hours on tuning
I'm so heccin stoopid like
Idek why I didnt think to write everything down. It wipes the overclock profiles and everything
Woah hold up
The new bios auto overclocks everything WTF
It has +1 for ecore and pcore values
Weird
Let's do CPU first ig. I bet I said what voltage I was running at here
Let's play a dangerous game
Guess what values everything was at once and try to boot
thorny cobalt
Hi guys, so I just upgraded to a new platform a few months ago, and wanted some RGB stuff, I’m going to order a P500A Phanteks tommorow for a late Christmas gift, but all that aside, I’m toying with the idea of selling my GSkills Ripjaw RAM, would anyone be interested?
It’s 16 gigs of DDR4 3600, and I wanted something with RGB, that’s why I wanna replace it, the 2 sticks are only about 2 months old, and I guess I could sell them for what I bought them for, which I actually can’t remember, so make@me an offer
shy wyvern
Hi guys, so I just upgraded to a new platform a few months ago, and wanted some ...
I don't think we allow any sales on the Newegg discord btw
shy wyvern
I think we do it to prevent scams and stuff
I'm going full send wish me luck on booting LOL
thorny cobalt
I’m not a scammer, I just wanna see if anyone was interested in Ram lol
This would be my first time selling components actually
shy wyvern
Tbf a scammer would probably say that too. There are a few hardware sale discords. Never used one though
thorny cobalt
Okey doke, I may go check those out, thanks so much for the help tho
Just wanna give my old stuff a good home :))
shy wyvern
I'm going full send wish me luck on booting LOL
It worked LOL
I hope I got everything right. If not and it's stable I'm not touching it
cerulean wadi
Tbf a scammer would probably say that too. There are a few hardware sale discord...
"I'm not a cop". "That's what a cop would say". Lmao
shy wyvern
Oh wow
Updating your bios flags your boot disk for windows 11
You have to reset your pin by entering your Microsoft account password
limber breach
hey guys, 5800x with Arctic Freeze 360mm I get 90c during Cinebench R23. Is that normal or should I be concerned?
Case is 4000D, the arctic is in front as intake, 2 noctua NFA14 at the top for exhaust and a stock fan at the back, also exhaust. PBO is enabled
Idle is at around 48C
vast meadow
hey guys, 5800x with Arctic Freeze 360mm I get 90c during Cinebench R23. Is that...
Ehh it could be just the cpu heavily boosting yeah, if it's reaching it almost instantly then I'd consider remounting, also make sure you used the offset am4 mount
limber breach
made sure to use the AM4 offset mount. I'll try remounting when I find time and see. I may have been too conservative with my thermal paste
vast meadow
@vital field we got a discord nitro spammer
vital field
shame people fall for those
vast meadow
Ik 
oak talon
@vast meadow is DDR 5 overkill this early on?
vast meadow
<@!191276897227898880> is DDR 5 overkill this early on?
Basically pointless atm
oak talon
okay thanks hun, ive been googling but i havent really found stuff that makes sense to me lol
vast meadow
okay thanks hun, ive been googling but i havent really found stuff that makes se...
Yeah you're better off just getting some 3600cl16 (fast ddr4) ram or something
limpid gulch
what is this
burnt spear
what is this
Old
limpid gulch
ik but like what is it's purpose
limpid gulch
ok but there's no heat sink or cooler?
burnt spear
Because back in the good ol days cpus didn't generate enough heat to need a designated heat sink
rocky beacon
Some form of chipset
limpid gulch
then why is there a massive CPU cooler that isn't on that
burnt spear
That metal thing?
burnt spear
Show it
rocky beacon
Not all chipsets require heatsinks
limpid gulch
it doesn't look like it but this is the CPU cooler
burnt spear
it doesn't look like it but this is the CPU cooler
That looks like a drive bay?
limpid gulch
That looks like a drive bay?
no shut
limpid gulch
That looks like a drive bay?
the drive isn't there
rocky beacon
That looks like a drive bay?
CPU cooler is here, thats a USFF Dell Optiplex
burnt spear
Imagine telling one of the only people trying to answer your question to shut up because they missed part of a picture
limpid gulch
no
burnt spear
Have fun with your issue
limpid gulch
ok
vast meadow
what is this
Looks like a chipset possibly, google the code on it to find out i guess
rocky beacon
Like I said, its a Intel ICH10 I/O controller
pretty much every system of the era had one in 2008-2009
shy wyvern
I miss the integrated graphics inside of motherboards tbh
So much potential was there
pastel monolith
potential for mobo manufactures to make more money lol
shy wyvern
You can squeeze way more into a dedicated Mobo chip then a CPU package
pastel monolith
oh yeah I didnt think about comparing it to onboard cpu gpus I was thinking as opposed to discrete lol
that would be better
shy wyvern
Ehh it could be just the cpu heavily boosting yeah, if it's reaching it almost i...
Will discrete are always going to be more expensive because you're paying for way more than just the chip
If it's sharing power delivery, ram, etc. With the main board it'll be cheaper to produce
It's how Intel used to do integrated graphics was a motherboard chipset
pastel monolith
Imagine you buy a mobo with an integrated 3090 for $2,200
I would be so scared something would break and it would be a total loss
but yeah I wouldn't be opposed to intel and amd adding their onboard graphics back to mobos
I don't know if it would be cheaper to make it outside the cpu or not though
vast meadow
Will discrete are always going to be more expensive because you're paying for wa...
I'm assuming this reply was not meant to my message?
shy wyvern
Oh I meant somethng else for you and got distracted
shy wyvern
I'm assuming this reply was not meant to my message?
If his 5800x is hitting those temps what chance does my CPU have LOL
pastel monolith
I think he might need a better paste job as @vast meadow said and he was running cinebench which isnt normal operation and I don't think it would throttle at 90c not sure what max temp is on the 5800x
vast meadow
If his 5800x is hitting those temps what chance does my CPU have LOL
Well pbo will boost as high as possible with the right cooling and possibly bad mount/not enough paste
shy wyvern
I just have never dealt with a chip this hot before
Running my old 8600k at 1.42V/5.3ghz didn't even produce this much heat
And I literally have it undervolted compared to where my motherboard wants it
If I let my motherboard do its defaults I thermal throttle with normal boost clocks
pastel monolith
temperature is always just an arbitrary number to me. Its time to do something about if it throttles
shy wyvern
Yeah well I'm running at 90C in cinebench locked to the all core turbo
(manual overclock to 4.9ghz)
1.255 volts
pastel monolith
no throttle no problem
shy wyvern
Intel guarantees 5ghz all core on all their 12600k(f) tho
You have to enable it but my motherboard wants 1.3 volts by default and that terrifies me
I can't even do 1.27 without throttling
pastel monolith
ah so you are throttling
shy wyvern
Kinda
I'm at the "stock"
But intel guarantees 5ghz all core for all their chips, just disabled due to heat
pastel monolith
what cooler?
shy wyvern
So I know for sure I can at least hit that, maybe 5.1/5.2
Dark rock 4 LOL
That thing cooled my friends 9900KS so I used it for my 8600k. It worked wonders
Even at 1.42 volts
vast meadow
I am very skeptical about your friends statement unless they actually have a dark rock pro 4
pastel monolith
lol me too
shy wyvern
Honestly they might, but the difference there isn't much
pastel monolith
have you increased the fan curve?
vast meadow
Honestly they might, but the difference there isn't much
Big enough difference
shy wyvern
Fans max at 70C
shy wyvern
Big enough difference
Bequiet says there's a 25% difference. He might I can ask him.
shy wyvern
Even then I doubt it'll run a 12600k at stock boost settings
pastel monolith
I haven't had a chance to play around with a 12600k yet so i am not sure
I would recommend a noctua d15 or an aio
vast meadow
D15 isn't worth the price atm imo(in the us anyway), same price as 360mm arctic liquid freezer
Nvm it's 10$ less
pastel monolith
so only d15 if an absolute aversion to water cooling
vast meadow
Yeah
vast meadow
D15 isn't worth the price atm imo(in the us anyway), same price as 360mm arctic ...
Sorry the d15 black is same price as lf ii 360mm
pastel monolith
oof but getting a d15 as opposed to a 360mm artic freezer for $10 less or the same price seems like a terrible deal
vast meadow
Yeah... That's why i think it's overpriced lol but people will some people will pay for the noctua tax or some people are okay with cooking their cpu because water ahhh
pastel monolith
they need to make a noctua 3090 like the 3070 they made and I might think about an all noctua build lol
vast meadow
they need to make a noctua 3090 like the 3070 they made and I might think about ...
Yeah idk why they bothered making a 3070 and not even a 3080 or higher where it could actually be useful lol
vast meadow
I just noticed that lol
split copper
the 900 series strix design came too early for noctua 😔
pastel monolith
looks suprisingly good
really should have vertically mounted the gpu if going all out like that though
vast meadow
Why is the cooler mounted that way lol? And is that 2 90mm fans?
pastel monolith
its a random pic from the internet so I dont really have more info 😔
vast meadow
The cooler do be triggering me
pastel monolith
yeah its wierd
vast meadow
Like mm yes cold gpu backplate air?
pastel monolith
LOL
vast meadow
Now you just need noctua mobo and ram
pastel monolith
maybe they could partner to make a mobo but I dont see the ram coming anytime soon lol
vast meadow
Yeah, not many people are in the market for brown ram lol
Maybe just grab some white ram and spray paint it
vast meadow
or make sure your D15 covers it up LOL
Suppose that works too
limpid gulch
It's just a cpu
I finally got the cooler off and it wasn't the cpu
pastel monolith
yeah it was a Intel I/O Controller Interface
limpid gulch
I wanted to ask why the CPU would be under the hard drive
rocky beacon
It's not
limpid gulch
ik
pliant siren
I am thinking of upgrading my ram, but i dunno if it'll be worthwhile.
I have my eye on the corsair dominator platinum 32 GB across 4 sticks at 3600mhz. I currently have 3000mhz 16gb vengeance memory on 2 sticks. I plan to do some creative work with Maya, Blender, Vegas/Premiere, Unity/Unreal, along with the usual gaming. So will the increased compacity and speed be worth?
I have this system on a B550M, Ryzen 3900X with a 3080TI
cerulean wadi
Is the 2x16 kit crazy expensive for a reason or what? 4sticks slightly "faster" but everyone nowadays likes to not use all 4 ram slots for w/e reasons. Edit, 4stick kit would be cool. Mixing kits isn't suggested
pastel monolith
I am thinking of upgrading my ram, but i dunno if it'll be worthwhile.
I have m...
I would to be honest ram prices arent too bad at the moment and you would see a pretty decent performance increase
mild jackal
Why corsair? can get some nice crucial or gskill b-die for around the same price
pliant siren
RGB is a nice factor
pastel monolith
yeah the rgb is the only reason i could think of
mild jackal
I think crucial's rgb is kinda ugly, but trident z looks nice
pastel monolith
https://www.newegg.com/corsair-32gb-288-pin-ddr4-sdram/p/N82E16820236788? this isn't a terrible price
mild jackal
🤮
pastel monolith
I mean you are paying for the rgb and wow i didnt do a good job looking at the timings....LOL
pastel monolith
so you buy 2 of these but then its just so expensive for the lights... https://www.newegg.com/corsair-16gb-288-pin-ddr4-sdram/p/N82E16820236755?
$220 for 32g 4x8
and they all come deoptimized for amd oh I mean optimized
vast meadow
so you buy 2 of these but then its just so expensive for the lights... <https://...
Ew no, ballistix RGB 3600 is 75$ atm pls no overpay
pliant siren
i get the price is a bit big, but like I need to learn a bit more about RAM's general process for these workloads and if it'll benefit it. Cause All i know is Cached animation replay seems to be based off the GPU and memory helps with undo's.
TL;DR i would like to learn more about RAM upgrade benifits
limpid gulch
I was just told that copper cpu coolers need a special kind of thermal paste and I feel like this dude is wrong
he's insisting it's true is he right
shy wyvern
Copper cpu cooler can use a special kind of thermal paste but don't need it. It's called liquid metal and I wouldn't suggest anyone that doesn't know what they're doing to get anywhere near that stuff.