#cpus-mobo-and-memory

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main pulsar
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its only real downside is it only works properly on windows 11

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but that should change eventually

subtle crow
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amd may be shrinking their node size more and more, but I wonder when they're going to join in on the hybrid designs

main pulsar
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ideally not for a while

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i want to stick with win 10 as long as i can

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because i guarentee win 10 is not gonna get an updated thread scheduler

subtle crow
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at the same time, if amd goes hybrid they would have the best of both worlds

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and probably leave intel in the dust with smaller node sizes and the hybrid design

main pulsar
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i think zen 4 is still gonna be the same process node

subtle crow
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I heard it was going to be 5nm

grizzled bloom
main pulsar
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oh fr?

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thats awfully nice of them

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i would have expected MS to totally ignore win 10

grizzled bloom
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Nice? No it's just good business sense. Forcing people to adopt a buggy, new OS could impair their sales numbers.

main pulsar
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i mean, it wouldnt force them to move to win 11

subtle crow
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DDR5 seems to better suited to desktop applications than gaming according to tom's hardware

grizzled bloom
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DDR5 doesn't compare well to DDR4 yet because it's mostly jedec sticks right now

subtle crow
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now this is interesting

grizzled bloom
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Once better binning happens and XMP 3.0 kits crop up more it'll be more comparable

main pulsar
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smaller process nodes yield increased efficiency

warm bolt
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Glad to see you guys confirm that me predordering a 12700k was in fact an alright decision.

grizzled bloom
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Yeah the increased power efficiency comes from Intel finally moving to a true smaller node

vast meadow
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It's debatable but it's more a 5800x competitor by the time you compare mobo and ram prices

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I'd hope so, 5600x is a year old

main pulsar
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unless you get ddr4

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and a ddr4 board

warm bolt
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How long does ddr5 usually take to release more and optimize? More options by black friday or more like january?

main pulsar
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like, a year or so maybe

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we will see faster and faster kits release in the coming months

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couldnt tell ya the cost of these kits tho

warm bolt
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Hmm so do i just get a ddr4 board and ddr4 with my 12700k then upgrade in a year or two?

main pulsar
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honestly no idea what the pricing in the future could be, but its a safe assumption that prices go down overtime

grizzled bloom
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It'll take a while but based on past trends I expect bins like 8000 c40 to come within 2-3 years. That's when I'll switch I think.

main pulsar
warm bolt
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No

main pulsar
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ahh

vast meadow
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Whereas 110$ b550

main pulsar
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we will get low end 600 series chipsets soon enough

finite sedge
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same been spamming refresh on all CAN shops nothing yet :/

main pulsar
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i mean, the chips arent even really released yet

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the embargo hasnt even lifted

warm bolt
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Hmm may just skimp on cheap ddr4 and ok board for now then then upgrade later.

finite sedge
vast meadow
vast meadow
main pulsar
main pulsar
vast meadow
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Fair

main pulsar
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same day the embargo lifts

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but newegg stupid

vast meadow
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Yeah

main pulsar
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shipped em out early lmao

vast meadow
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Shhh

warm bolt
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What the CPUs?

vast meadow
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12600k
12700k
12900k

main pulsar
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i mean

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this aint even bad

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it is oloy

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so

warm bolt
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Yeah i got charged for mine today so i assumed they shipped.

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Idk much about the embargo.

vast meadow
main pulsar
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i mean yeah

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but like

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early adopter tax

grizzled bloom
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Take what you know about DDR4 brands and what's best and throw it out the window for DDR5

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Some of the best brands of DDR3 simply don't exist any more

naive pendant
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^

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ddr2 patriot sli moment

oak prawn
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I bought a ryzen 5 2600 was it worth or no?

naive pendant
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well how much did you get it for

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and were you building a system from scratch or what

oak prawn
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@naive pendant I bought it for 150

vast meadow
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Yikes

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Can you return

oak prawn
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Wym

vast meadow
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Can you return the cpu?

naive pendant
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where'd you buy it for that much? you should try to return it.

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When I bought my 2600, I got it for 120, and that was over 2 years ago

oak prawn
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Oh

vast meadow
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Yeah

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Also did you already have the motherboard or?

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If so I'd return that too

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And get an i5 10400(f) and a b560/h570 motherboard

naive pendant
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i was going to jokingly suggest x99, but nevermind

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muahaha

vast meadow
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Nah

naive pendant
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yea not a good option in this case lol

oak prawn
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So I’m fresh new to building pcs and I’m trying to build my first one

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And I thought the ryzen 5 2600 was good

naive pendant
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It's still a pretty decent CPU, but not really up to par at all compared to newer more current cpus

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if you're putting together a build from scratch, unless it's extreme low budget or something, it's best to go with something more modern

oak prawn
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Well I’m only trying to spend 150 on a cpu

naive pendant
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do you already have a motherboard?

oak prawn
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No

naive pendant
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oh perfect

naive pendant
oak prawn
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So what part do u think I should buy first?

naive pendant
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well typically i buy stuff together. i dont like buying individual parts over time because prices can change and whatnot

oak prawn
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So I bought the cpu off of eBay

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@naive pendant and idk if the guy will let me return

vast meadow
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Oooooof

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It wasn't even a new cpu

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You got ripped off my guy :(

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See if they will but usually not on ebay

naive pendant
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dang that really sucks

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yea most sellers dont offer returns unless it's an ebay business

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even i dont offer returns on ebay; introduces a lot of variables and potential issues

weary condor
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Probably can sell it locally and get some money out of it

vast meadow
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Maybe like 100 back from it tho

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Ehh

weary condor
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Better than nothing

vast meadow
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Ehhh I'd still take a 2600 over a 10100 probs

weary condor
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I cant even play my favorite game without my cpu sky rocketing to 75-80C

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Im actually tempted to sell my cpu and downgrade bc of it

naive pendant
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what cpu?

weary condor
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Ryzen 9 5950X. Game is single thread intensive but the temps are insane when comparing it to others playing the same game with same cpu

naive pendant
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yup, toasty cpu lol

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what cooler do you have though?

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also 80C isnt that bad, so why do you want to get rid of it because of that?

weary condor
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Nzxt z63 so 280mm

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Well thats when the game isnt even putting a heavy load

arctic kettle
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hi i have a question about cpus that maybe someone can answer

weary condor
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I play beamng and i get those temps with 1 car spawned. People have 20+ cars spawned but temps are cooler than mine

naive pendant
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have you made sure the cooler is mounted properly? 80C seems unusual for a cooler like that, especially considering you said the 5950x is not even at full load when it gets that hot

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it's not overclocked right?

arctic kettle
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currently have a AMD 2700x with a 3070 FE. would i see a bump in performance with a 5800X and new mobo? i believe they have the same core count and threads

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current mobo i think is a gigabyte b450? mini itx

weary condor
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Could it be background processes?

naive pendant
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nah i doubt it. if you say its not under 100% load then it isnt under 100% load

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what's vcore at?

weary condor
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I will have to see later under stress but idles at around 1.2V

naive pendant
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Hmm

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You could try undervolting

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Try an offset of -250mv maybe. Could go more but I'm not sure, haven't worked with any zen 3 cpus or done tons of research yet lol

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Once you do that, do a run or two of CB r23 to get a decent idea of how your temps would be under a decent load

weary condor
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I have no idea how to undervolt but i will look more into it. My pc blue screen last time i tried

vast meadow
weary condor
vast meadow
vast meadow
weary condor
shy wyvern
weary condor
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I love scams

arctic kettle
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will the 5800x be a nice jump from the 2700x?

smoky widget
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how do you report that?

arctic kettle
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i just blocked him

vast meadow
vast meadow
arctic kettle
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alright, i think ill retire the 2700x, think i should upgrade the mobo or keep it. i believe its compatible. but its just as old as the cpu @vast meadow

vast meadow
arctic kettle
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current mobo i think is a gigabyte b450? mini itx

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i believe its this 1

vast meadow
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Hmm

arctic kettle
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i have a small case so i can only do itx. its a NR200P

vast meadow
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Should be fine

vast meadow
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Consider 5600x if you only game

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Good bit less hot

shy wyvern
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I meant 5800x performance for $270*

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Kinda locked into Intel for the stupid avx instruction sets. AMD should just lease it like they do for their server processors.

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I hope next gen amd has this big of a leap. This is pretty great

vast meadow
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Not to mention ddr5, I haven't yet seen ddr4 testing

shy wyvern
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Ddr4 isn't too far behind in benchmarks.

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That small gap won't last forever though when ddr5 improves

vast meadow
arctic kettle
vast meadow
arctic kettle
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i do adobe software too

vast meadow
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Nice aio tho

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Adobe software would take advantage of the extra cores yeah :/

arctic kettle
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i switch out the solid glass panel with the vented

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have the aio mounted horizontally on the vent and sucking air through the rad from the vent

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2 fans on the bottom intaking air with the gpu over them on the bottom and 2 fans exhuasting on top

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looks like this

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vast meadow
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Ohh nice

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5800x should be fine then

arctic kettle
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been trying to switch out my 3070 for the 3080. been swing and a miss every time lol

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so just figured to just replace the older cpu instead

vast meadow
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The clc is new?

arctic kettle
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Nah it's I think its 2 years old

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I know they start to corrode and evaporate after a while and cooling gets affected but not sure how long that usually takes

finite sedge
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Has anyone seen or heard anything on gskill DDR5 availability? been refreshing dozens of online retailers since this morning to no avail..

vast meadow
vast meadow
arctic kettle
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@vast meadow thanks for the help

vast meadow
peak perch
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got home about 30 min ago. this was the first thing i did before troubleshooting anything else and it fixed it. any thoughts on why this happened? is resetting the cmos a regular 2-3 year maintenance?

atomic kestrel
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Hello everyone,

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One more I need your help...

finite elm
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Yeah?

atomic kestrel
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I just received may I7 11700k LGA1200 CPU I ordered yesterday...

finite elm
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Yeah?

atomic kestrel
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On it's box there is nothing indicating that it is a rocket lake !

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How can I check that?

finite elm
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Is it an 11700k?

atomic kestrel
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Yes

finite elm
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Then it's rocket lake

atomic kestrel
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Ok ,

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And...

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on the CPU body I see SKNI 3.6GHz V112H051

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SRKNI 3.6GHz V112H051 sorry

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Any idea about the meaning of V112H051 ?

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Thanks for your help!

hollow thorn
mild jackal
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Sounds like batch number, serial number is encoded into the QR on the pcb

hollow thorn
hollow thorn
atomic kestrel
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your information is highly appreciated. Thank you very mutch !

naive pendant
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Same thing with Alder Lake

oak prawn
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Hello guys I was wondering what kind of cpu should I buy for 150$?

cursive epoch
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I suggest save up

oak prawn
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What part should I buy first?

shy wyvern
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Look at buying a 10400/11400 for that price range

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But saving up will give you a longer lasting machine without needing to upgrade

grizzled bloom
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Wonder how the 12400 will be? ThinkingEgg

shy wyvern
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It won't have efficiency cores

cursive epoch
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It's not out yet sadly

shy wyvern
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So it'll be like a 5600x

oak prawn
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Is a 10400 good?

cursive epoch
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12400 has efficiency cores, no?

shy wyvern
oak prawn
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Which is better intel or ryzen?

cursive epoch
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It's like 12600K but no OC

shy wyvern
grizzled bloom
cursive epoch
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Hmm

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That's weird

oak prawn
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Wym cases

shy wyvern
grizzled bloom
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Like how you'll be using it and what budget

cursive epoch
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12400 is an odd duck

oak prawn
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Cases like mother board?

cursive epoch
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Only P-core

shy wyvern
oak prawn
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Or the case

shy wyvern
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They're much more budget

grizzled bloom
oak prawn
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I’m new to pc

shy wyvern
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Their i5's perform worse than ryzen5's but the price to performance is great

oak prawn
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Building

shy wyvern
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What're you needing a computer for Dunkin?

cursive epoch
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I just expected it to have same core config as 12600K

oak prawn
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Gaming/mining @shy wyvern

cursive epoch
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That's where it gets weird

grizzled bloom
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Mining will be tricky to get a gpu for

cursive epoch
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But I suppose to make it cheap, they gotta make sacrifices

shy wyvern
cursive epoch
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Hey at least it's 5600X perf for cheaper

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lol

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That's a good thing

shy wyvern
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For a 6 core 12 thread $130-150 is great!

oak prawn
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So u think I should buy a 10400 @shy wyvern ?

shy wyvern
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Yeah if you can find one for a good price, like $140 or below! Idk if they're still doing those deals

grizzled bloom
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It's pretty good for modern midrange gaming

shy wyvern
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Microcenter had a $260 b560m 10400 bundle like a month ago

oak prawn
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@shy wyvern what is a good mother board for 10400?

grizzled bloom
shy wyvern
shy wyvern
cursive epoch
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Mind that B560 on 10th gen has their top m.2 slots disabled

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But ram speed won't be limited

shy wyvern
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You can get a b460 board too

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If you can find one for cheap

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But there's not much of a price difference

oak prawn
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@shy wyvern I found a deal b550 for 125$ usually 160

shy wyvern
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B550 is amd, b560 is intel

oak prawn
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Oh

grizzled bloom
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It would need to be at least $40 cheaper for me to recommend b460 over b560

oak prawn
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So I should find a b560?

shy wyvern
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Yeah try to find a b560

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You could try going for a h510/h410 for $80 but I don't think it's worth the saving over the b560

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They're usually bad quality

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It's only if your budget is stupid tight

grizzled bloom
cursive epoch
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H510 has no xmp too

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Which is boo

oak prawn
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I haven’t bought nothing and I’m spending around 609$ @grizzled bloom

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600*

shy wyvern
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Intel doesn't benefit that much from faster ram speeds, 2666 should be fine for budget builds

oak prawn
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600-700

shy wyvern
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$700 is going to be hard to find GPUs for

grizzled bloom
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Including a gpu? That's impossibly tight

cursive epoch
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2666 is bad for 10400 tho

shy wyvern
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But you can probably get a b560 + 10400 + ram + case + PSU for around $450

cursive epoch
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It's not a 9400

oak prawn
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@grizzled bloom besides gpu saving for last

cursive epoch
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That 2666 doesn't matter much

grizzled bloom
oak prawn
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Asking for a gpu for Christmas @grizzled bloom

shy wyvern
grizzled bloom
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Ah OK that works

shy wyvern
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OMG

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You can get a 11700k for $600 build

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Will probably 11700 to save money

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I just saw some 11700's for $320 not too long ago

oak prawn
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So what part should I buy first I have 150$ to spend rn

shy wyvern
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Waiting for parts is torture

oak prawn
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So you think I should save all my money up until I have all of it then spend it all?

shy wyvern
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Yeah

grizzled bloom
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If you come back here when you've got some more saved we can give a full parts list and you can get it going in a few days, instead of crossing your fingers all the parts work while you go past return period

shy wyvern
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Or wait for better deals. 10400 is $170 right now. Should wait for a deal on that cpu

oak prawn
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Ok

shy wyvern
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A $150 or lower 11400/10400 will be quite great

oak prawn
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Can I create a group chat with all of us until I get all my money?

shy wyvern
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I think you'd be pretty happy with that if you can wait

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You can just ping us here dunkin

oak prawn
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Will y’all still be here?

shy wyvern
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I check this server pretty regularly

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Yeah

grizzled bloom
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We've got plenty of members that can make a good parts list

shy wyvern
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I'm an "elite" user here lol

oak prawn
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Ok it’s gonna be in like five months

shy wyvern
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For real, most people that are regulars here can help you

shy wyvern
oak prawn
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Will y’all be here in 5 months

shy wyvern
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Yeah. I've been in this server since Jan 2019

oak prawn
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Ok

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In 5 months what kind of cpu should I get will y’all let me know when I’m back here?

shy wyvern
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I use to be top 25 in mee6 levels but I'm not as active anymore lol

vivid anvilBOT
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:8ball: | Signs point to yes, Fal'Cie

shy wyvern
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LOL

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You may check out but you can never leave fal'cie

oak prawn
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So say the 10400 goes on sale tm should I buy it

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If it does

grizzled bloom
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Either that or the 11400, and I'd avoid ones that end in F until you're sure you can get a gpu

shy wyvern
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Yeah

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If you don't have a GPU 10400f/11400f will be fancy sand paperweights

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(although 11th gen might already be even working)

grizzled bloom
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Hey up to 11600 that gen is great, it's the 11700+ that are just embarrassing

shy wyvern
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They're not great performance wise but value they're pretty good

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Nothing can beat a $150-180 i5

oak prawn
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I’m saving all my money until Black Friday

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Yalll think I should

shy wyvern
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Yeah

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Microcenter should have some great deals on 10400/11400 and b560

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Also don't be afraid to go used on CPUs to save a buck or two

grizzled bloom
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There should be deals all November

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And if you buy from somewhere like newegg or best buy, and the price goes down after you buy it, you automatically get refunded the difference

shy wyvern
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WTF

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The 12600k smokes the 10900k in multicore???

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I get they're both 10 cores

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But wtf

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Like what the actual hecc am I looking at

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I'm watching the gamers Nexus review and just am flabbergasted

grizzled bloom
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Well yeah, those new cores are no joke. Even the e-cores are as powerful as 10th gen cores but lower power

shy wyvern
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Intel even said they're about 7th gen core ipc

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At 1/4 the core size

oak prawn
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560 motherboard on sale for 89$ it’s a gigibite

shy wyvern
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Can you share link?

oak prawn
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Worth it or no?

shy wyvern
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Can we see it first?

oak prawn
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GIGABYTE B560M DS3H (LGA 1200/ Intel/ B560/ Micro-ATX/Dual M.2/ PCIe 4.0/ USB 3.2 Gen1/ GbE LAN/Motherboard

limber dragon
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7th gen ipc = 10th gen ipc

oak prawn
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Copy and paste that

grizzled bloom
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Certain boards are really bad, we need the exact model

shy wyvern
limber dragon
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wut

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they're both skylake

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ipc is the same

shy wyvern
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Coffee lake actually had a decent ipc improvement?

limber dragon
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no, its the same ipc

oak prawn
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It’s 89 @shy wyvern

limber dragon
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coffee and comet clock higher, but the ipc is the same

oak prawn
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Idk if I should get it. You save 23%

shy wyvern
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Looking at it, I don't see an issue with it. Do you @grizzled bloom

grizzled bloom
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DS3H is an ok budget board

shy wyvern
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It doesn't seem bad. If you want to get it you can. Just note you'll be limited to 1 GPU/full slot card

oak prawn
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@shy wyvern you think I should get it?

shy wyvern
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Yeah it seems like a good board for the price. It is brand new, right? Not refurbished?

oak prawn
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Yeah brand new from Amazon

shy wyvern
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It'd be a pretty good purchase. It supports 10th and 11th gen Intel cpus

oak prawn
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You think I should get it it can go with the 10600 correct?

shy wyvern
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10400

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10600 can be a bit pricey in comparison for not much performance increase

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The more reviews on the 12600k I watch the more I'm blown away that it's somehow cheaper than the 5600x.

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The 12600kf for $270 is just like

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Stupid good

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I need it

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It's basically a 10900kf for $270

oak prawn
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Intel Core i5 10400F - 2.9 GHz - 6-core - 12 threads - 12 MB cache - LGA1200 Socket - OEM

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It’s 139$ is it worth

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@shy wyvern is it worth it?

grizzled bloom
oak prawn
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So the 139$ core 10400 is worth it

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@grizzled bloom

grizzled bloom
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Yes

oak prawn
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I should get it?

grizzled bloom
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I would. It's highly unlikely that if there's an issue that it's the processor, so if you buy any part before the rest of the build that would be it

oak prawn
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Ok I’m gonna order it

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What’s a good mother board for it?

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@grizzled bloom I made a private group chat with you and showed you the link

shy wyvern
oak prawn
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I know I’m gonna be getting a gpu for Christmas

shy wyvern
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Alright. Just letting you know you couldn't use it until then.

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10400f is fine for budgets. That board from earlier would work quite well as well. I'd look into buying some used memory sticks, most memory from brands like g.skill have lifetime warranties so they can replace them if they don't work

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If you use multiple, make sure they're the same exact stick

oak prawn
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@shy wyvern ok thanks for the info

trail crystal
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Hey guys need some help...

got a ASUS z590-e MOBO and 11700k and i got a new ssd, i put this second ssd into m.s m2_2 slot... i have slot 1 filled. But it did not detect, i moved the ssd to m.2_3 slot and it works just fine. Can anyone help me? feel free to dm

weary condor
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@vast meadow @naive pendant found the problem for my 5950x temp issue. Restrictive airflow in my case

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Took my case panels off now im chilling under 70

naive pendant
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wow your case must really be garbage

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yikes

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glad that its working though

weary condor
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Idk what to do because my build was for looks

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Might just look at the bigger version

vernal cosmos
vast meadow
weary condor
vast meadow
weary condor
vast meadow
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Like the layout of the case

weary condor
burnt spear
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Question: my SO has an apu build with 8gb of ram, they recently got an ssd to fix hard drive issues. They're now running into ram limits while playing minecraft with discord and Google open. If they got an 8gb stick, could they run it with one of their 4b sticks?

vernal cosmos
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Maybe

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Maybe not

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Ram doesnt like to mix with other kits

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Especially between dies

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So it could be fine

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But it also could result in windows corruptions

burnt spear
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Probably easier said than done but Google image search can work wonders

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I know about die mixing, I corrupted my own windows doing that

vernal cosmos
burnt spear
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True

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There's a software to test dies right?

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Also what speed of ram is good for the 3400g? Is it 3600 like the rest of newer ryzen or smthn else

vast meadow
vast meadow
burnt spear
vernal cosmos
vernal cosmos
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Just get a 16 gb kit of 3600c16 ballistic imo

vast meadow
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Very hit or miss

vernal cosmos
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Monolithic die

vast meadow
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Still

vernal cosmos
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Nah should be fine till 3600

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Non apus can do 3466 without effort

vast meadow
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Hmm

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Wouldn't say without effort

vernal cosmos
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I would

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3466 very doable on zen+

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Only bottom bin cant hit it

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Early bottom bin

vast meadow
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We don't know if early bin tho, i mean it could but 3200 safer bet

vernal cosmos
#

Its monolithic tho

#

Not regular zen+

#

For a non apu yeah 3200 good

vast meadow
#

Fair

burnt spear
#

Also the mobo is an a320 if that matters

vast meadow
burnt spear
#

Yeah crap build

#

They got it before I knew them

vast meadow
vernal cosmos
#

Hynix never gets guessed correctly iirc

burnt spear
#

Aight I'll have to check what they are

#

They live 3.5hr away sadly

vast meadow
#

They can send a pic of the sticker, depending what brand it is

burnt spear
#

Yeah

#

First I gotta make sure they have 2x4

#

I believe they do but I'm not 100% sure

#

Then I should check if they have xmp on

cyan raft
#

I remember getting my first pc

vernal cosmos
#

I dont

cyan raft
#

Gotta love 4x4 ram

vernal cosmos
#

I was like 3

burnt spear
#

Also thay they only have 2 ram slots, but I haven't seen a gigabyte a320 with 4

vernal cosmos
#

When we got our first pc

cyan raft
#

By first pc I meant like the first one I bought myself

vernal cosmos
#

Ah

#

I remember mine them

#

The

#

Then

#

Twas last year

naive pendant
#

Look at this absurd mining board

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#

Longboi

cursive epoch
#

aliexpress has something with celeron soldered on

#

and sodimm slot

naive pendant
#

I've seen other boards that use sodimm but it's usually for sff boards
Or are you talking about another big huge long boi board using sodimm, cause that would be pretty ridiculous

cursive epoch
#

yep

#

it is one of these long boys

#

they usually come in combo with ram and m.2 sata ssd

#

enough for just mining

naive pendant
#

I wonder why sodimms

cursive epoch
#

idk

#

the celeron is mobile one so it could be why

severe pivot
#

Looking for some help on a PC no post.

MOBO: PRIME Z490-A
CPU: I7-11700K LGA1200

Context: ordered a bunch of parts from Newegg. All of the. Arrive, but motherboard takes 40 days to arrive. When I assemble it, no post MOBo flashing CPU error light. I send back CPU Newegg says "CPU seems to not be working properly, has VRP" and sends me a new one. My new one is having same issue. They told me to come here.

Single Ram tried in each slot. Thread for more.

severe pivot
# severe pivot Looking for some help on a PC no post. MOBO: PRIME Z490-A CPU: I7-11700K LGA120...

I guess I can't make a thread anymore. I guess that's why they deleted my last one.

I checked PC part picker and noticed this:
"Warning!The Asus PRIME Z490-A ATX LGA1200 Motherboard supports the Intel Core i7-11700K 3.6 GHz 8-Core Processor with BIOS version 2103. If the motherboard is using an older BIOS version, upgrading the BIOS will be necessary to support the CPU."

So I'm not sure if that could be why it's not posting.

I cleared CMOS, Tried one stick of ram each slot.

I have images of all the things that are currently plugged into the MOBO

cursive epoch
#

It is very likely

#

The bios it came with might've been an older version

severe pivot
#

How can I update bios with no CPU?

cursive epoch
#

Lemme check if it's possible with this one mobo

hollow thorn
#

No flashback

cursive epoch
#

Yeah

#

Gotta return that board

#

And get a Z590

#

Or anything that supports 11th gen outta the box

severe pivot
#

Nightmare nightmare nightmare

hollow thorn
#

Sad that flashback isn't a prevalent feature on Intel boards

cursive epoch
#

^

severe pivot
#

New egg literally sold these two in a package. That's why I got it.

cursive epoch
#

f

#

sell the mobo

#

and get another

hollow thorn
#

Or if you could borrow a 10th gen chip from someone

vast meadow
#

Or return both and get a 10700 and z490 and save some money :o

cursive epoch
#

but then you wouldn't be able to return the cpu if it's broken

hollow thorn
#

I don't think Intel is running a loaner cpu program like AMD did but maybe someone you know has a chip you can loan

cursive epoch
#

but yeah if possible, borrow some 10th gen chip

#

nah, intel sadly doesn't do loaner

severe pivot
#

I have one but it's 1151 🙃

hollow thorn
#

need lga1200

severe pivot
#

Imagine waiting for 40 days just for the mobo to be not supported. 🤡

hollow thorn
#

but compatible chips include
Pentium gold G6400(t)/G6500(t)/G6600

#

Hey, go blame Asus for putting an older bios on the board :p

#

Newegg doesn't manufacturer the boards

vast meadow
#

Tbf why would wegg bundle 11th gen and z490 when not guaranteed compatible notstonks

severe pivot
#

I wasn't gonna get this board but it was bundled so I bought that instead

cursive epoch
#

buy a pentium for cheap way

#

and use it to update but yeah it would be a hard time to sell that

vast meadow
#

Imo return it and save money on a 10700(k) anyway and probs a cheaper/better board

severe pivot
#

Cheaper/better board?

severe pivot
hollow thorn
#

Might also be able to get Celeron G5905/G5925 to update bios

vast meadow
hollow thorn
#

not that much cheaper tbh

vast meadow
hollow thorn
#

its like 330$ vs 350$

vast meadow
#

10700f is like 230 or something

hollow thorn
#

260

#

but that's with no iGPU

#

and GPUs hard to find

vast meadow
#

True

#

:/

#

Do you live near a micro center myx?

#

You can get 10850k's for like 350$

severe pivot
#

I'm going to tell new egg that the board is incompatible according to you guys. All my stuff is technically out of warranty because it took so long to ship. But I saw this coming and built a history of chat logs with them showing that I ordered all parts at same time and one did not deliver. So they said they'd honor warranty from 30 days of receiving mobo.

severe pivot
cursive epoch
#

It ain't outta warranty

#

Shipment delays doesn't count

vast meadow
#

Shame

vast meadow
severe pivot
cursive epoch
#

It is certainly bios issue tbh

#

Everything seems to work

vast meadow
#

Very unlikely to be something else

severe pivot
#

Yeah I don't even have GPU plugged into it

#

Well which series mobo should I get to be sure? Z590 u said 🦊? Is that just newer version of same board?

hollow thorn
#

(And supports 11th gen out of box and some other bits and pieces)

#

but the rest depends on the model

severe pivot
#

So support for 11th gen out of box is key

#

Okay. Thanks guys.

hollow thorn
#

That's your current issue, which is why its relevant

cursive epoch
#

^

#

Z590 is guaranteed to work outta the box

#

Z490 sometimes has updated bios in box

#

But to be sure, do what mr1111 says

devout needle
#

quick question, I already have a pc with a 3600x in it. If I were to change the cpu to the 5600x in the future, would I have to change most of my others parts in the build?

#

(I do have a b550 board already)

vast meadow
severe pivot
#

New egg response

#

I'm thinking I buy a CPU from best buy. Then put it in, update bios, then return the CPU....

#

This just feels really shady. The bundle was cheaper, only reason I chose it. By choosing a bundle it started my return period when I got CPU. I email the seller constantly about missing part they tell me nothing they can do. 40 days later I get my MOBO and it's not working correctly. Then they telling me to return it I have to pay UK shipping and 15% restock fee...

#

Like I get I should have done my research on the mobo/CPU. But I just assumed if they were bundled it would work.

supple sedge
#

GIGABYTE B550 AORUS PRO AC on sale for 162 dollars today or MSI MPG B550 for 185? both are like 210 dollars usually

#

planning to put it in either a 4000d airflow or the corsair 220t

vast meadow
vast meadow
severe pivot
#

Because apparently they're based out of UK

vast meadow
vast meadow
vast meadow
severe pivot
#

No the marketplace seller that sent me the MOBO

vast meadow
#

huh?

supple sedge
vast meadow
supple sedge
hollow thorn
#

Damn

#

Marketplace seller that sold the bundle

#

That's unfortunate

#

Probably why it took so long to get there too

arctic kettle
#

@vast meadow good thing I waited an extra day, micro center discounted the 5800x. So it was $299.99

hollow thorn
#

Finally, 5800x at the price it should've launched at

arctic kettle
#

Ya I've heard it was a bit overpriced

#

I was going to get it for like 360 or 380 something like that

supple sedge
#

that sucks the nearest microcenter is like 2 hours away but im tryna get a 5800x

#

rip :/

arctic kettle
#

I wish they had more stores. I think there is only 1 store in my state and I happen to live like 30-40mins from

supple sedge
#

yeah facts i think theres only one in my state too

#

im usually like 20 mins from it but im up at university so theres not one close ;(

arctic kettle
#

I have a 2700x atm and decided maybe wait a bit after talking to pato yesterday since it works fine but $300 is a better price and pushed me to get it lol

supple sedge
#

XD hell yeah

arctic kettle
#

And the 2700x sells decently on the 2nd hand market so I'll get some money out of it

supple sedge
#

there ya go man

#

i wonder if microcenter would hold it until thanksgiving for me

arctic kettle
#

I think they only hold for a few days

shy wyvern
#

This is so tempting

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subtle crow
#

not much of a discount

#

like 20-30 bucks

vast meadow
vast meadow
vast meadow
arctic kettle
#

ya

shy wyvern
vast meadow
arctic kettle
#

ya im sure it will drop. if microcenter discounted the 5800x to the 5600x price. might take a little more time :p

shy wyvern
#

They're probably going to pull an Intel and keep prices the same so that next gen doesn't look like bad value

arctic kettle
#

wonder if they are holding out for like christmas deals

#

just gotta wait and see

burnt spear
#

I'm still wondering how 5000 series refresh will compare to 12th gen

#

If they make a 5950xt it'd destroy the 12900k

subtle crow
#

12900k is still quite a bit cheaper

sullen summit
#

12700k tho, for the price it's a beast, however i suspect the Ryzen CPU's will get alot cheaper in the next month or so

finite elm
#

When should 11th gen price start to drop

subtle crow
#

I'm looking at PCmag's review of the 12600K and 12900K and it seems as though the 12600K actually performs better with the 3090 for games

#

wow, in general PCmag has an extremely critical opinion of alder lake

vast meadow
subtle crow
#

it was just one game

#

the others favored the 12900k

#

but I was surprised how close it was

#

for a lot of the game benchmarks

vast meadow
#

Odd

#

Wonder what mem config they were using

upper aspen
#

Why do CPUs need to change shape for a new generation? Why not just make the cpu thicker

vast meadow
#

The die itself is actually smaller

upper aspen
#

👍

finite elm
#

WOAH 5800X is 299 at microcenter

supple sedge
#

yah ik i wish it was online too i cant get down there to buy it :(

#

XD

finite elm
#

11600k is 200$. 😮

supple sedge
#

gettin to the holiday season stuffs gettin cheaper

vast meadow
#

But remember

#

Z590 prices :/

finite elm
#

I have a Z590

arctic kettle
#

im headed after work to pick it up

finite elm
#

Was in a bundle

vast meadow
#

Ahh

finite elm
#

With my 3080ti

#

Haven't used it cause CPU prices went wonky for a bit.

#

Didn't want to put a 10700k in it because the board i have has PCIE gen 4 m.2 slots and I dunno which would be disabled.

#

All of them? Just the top one? No clue. Didn't wanna risk it.

#

Imagine not being able to use and of your m.2 slots cause they're all PCIE 4.0

vast meadow
finite elm
#

Even if they are all gen 4? How does that make sense

vast meadow
#

Ohh all of them?w

finite elm
#

Why not just have it go down to gen 3 if the other ones can?

vast meadow
#

What board?

vast meadow
finite elm
#

Z590 Aorus Pro AX it has 4 4.0 m.2 slots

#

Wait, no it has 3 4.0 and 1 3.0 so I could use a 10700k

vast meadow
#

I mean you could always use..... Sata

finite elm
#

Never. I suck at managing cables

#

Always m.2

#

Mp33 was like 70$ a few days ago.

vast meadow
#

@finite elm

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vast meadow
finite elm
#

What's that mean

vast meadow
#

They'll just run in gen 3

finite elm
#

Oh

#

Well that's 50 extra dollars

shy wyvern
#

Someone's going to get sued, a french publication accidentally published a 12400 review and took it down

grizzled bloom
#

Nah they don't get sued over that, they get blacklisted for nda breach

shy wyvern
#

Welp

#

Here's some of their slides

#

It seems to be a pretty big french publication too

#

Like almost exactly level with 5600x

#

No ecores like what was leaked

grizzled bloom
#

That single core r23 tho

#

Could be the next budget king we're looking at

#

It might even play nice with windows 10 with no e-cores

subtle crow
#

Oh nice, I hope the 12400F come for under 200

#

Would be a shame if intel charged more for it

untold jay
#

I’m having some really errors performance issues with my dell latitude e6420

#

I’ve got the core i7 2760QM
8gb of ddr3 1600mghz ram
And nVidia quadro nvs 4200m

#

Right now it’s under performing

#

But I think I found the cause

#

When it’s plugged in it runs at 0.6ghz flat no change and it just sits there

#

But on battery it boosts all the way up to 3.2ghz and kinda sits at about 2.5ghz

grizzled bloom
#

Something that old might have a bad battery, which could interfere with the power delivery

#

Or a bad power brick

untold jay
#

Oddly enough it performs way better on battery

untold jay
#

And would it tank performance that bad or wouldn’t it just slowly draw from the battery?

untold jay
grizzled bloom
#

If there's some sort of short it could just not be getting enough power, but you can also look into the windows power settings and set it to "high performance"

#

Yeah figured, when the battery is that old you're better off not even using it

untold jay
#

Unfortunately there is no power plan other than balanced

grizzled bloom
#

Oh there is, you just need to unhide it

untold jay
#

So I just min maxed it so that when it’s plugged in it full throttles everything to the max

untold jay
grizzled bloom
#

Worst case you just edit the plan if the high performance somehow got deleted

untold jay
#

No power plan

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untold jay
#

And it didn’t do anything

#

Rn it just boosts only when on battery

grizzled bloom
#

Wow Dell really gave you a middle finger there

untold jay
#

Yea

#

I can create a power plan

#

Which can be called high performance

grizzled bloom
#

You can go ahead and do that, and set the cpu options like this

unknown.png
untold jay
#

Yes

#

For some reason dell thought it would be a good idea to shut off the fans while it’s on battery

#

bruh

#

Same problem

#

The power plan didn’t do anything

grizzled bloom
#

I'd run it without the battery and see if that changes anything

untold jay
#

Removing the battery didn’t do anything

grizzled bloom
#

Reboot

untold jay
#

Ok

#

Ok so completely power cycling the laptop without the battery allows the cpu to boost

#

Aaand now it’s back to 0.6

grizzled bloom
#

Oof, Only thing left to try is a full reinstall of Windows, and if that doesn't work it's a hardware issue

untold jay
#

Weird I like just reinstalled windows

grizzled bloom
#

Then yeah it's hardware more than likely

untold jay
#

Damn

grizzled bloom
#

Something about the power delivery if I had to guess

untold jay
#

Is there a way I can test that?

grizzled bloom
#

All the diagnostic really looks at for the power brick is the voltage stays in a certain limit, it doesn't stress it to see if it still stays in the limit

#

You can try an aftermarket brick

#

Most capacitors have a limited life, between 5 and 10 years based on quality and use

untold jay
#

Can I use another dell one that’s quite a bit newer

grizzled bloom
#

If it's the same voltage and plug type yes

#

And polarity

untold jay
#

Well unfortunately it didn’t do anything anyway

#

Hey so this might be some thing interesting

#

The turbo boost feature says it can increase the gpu OR cpu

#

So maybe maxing out the gpu might hamper the cpu

grizzled bloom
#

It wouldn't be dropping below base clocks for that, it would stay at 2.2GHz or whatever it is

#

It's worth undoing any GPU overclock to test though

untold jay
#

I had one before on the quadro I listed in my specs but nothing on the iGPU

robust leaf
#

So I just got my RAM (Got a good deal on Trident Z Neo 3600 C16 16GB), and I am trying to figure out where I can see what Die it is.

naive pendant
#

Don't you love having to sand your cpu for 5 hours to get it flat?

grizzled bloom
robust leaf
grizzled bloom
#

Hynix for sure, trying to get exact die

robust leaf
#

ok

grizzled bloom
robust leaf
#

Ok

robust leaf
grizzled bloom
robust leaf
#

ok

grizzled bloom
#

Per reddit
'Platform preferences: Seems to be fine on both Intel *lake and AMD Ryzen. Issues reported on X99.

Recommended for: Higher-end daily without the B-die tax.'

robust leaf
#

I have 5600x so 4000 might be too high

grizzled bloom
#

3800 c16 maybe. You'll just have to play with it to find out.

robust leaf
#

Ya, I definitely will since it's my first pc

grizzled bloom
#

Probably c18 but tighter other primaries, so more like 18-19-19

vast meadow
#

Ram oc can corrupt stuff

devout mothBOT
#
DemeRy#1888 has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

#
DemeRy#1888 has been kicked

Reason: Too many infractions

shy wyvern
#

I need best buy to restock CPUs and motherboards so I can pick it up in person vs. having it shipped

#

Fed ex and UPS have been destroying about 85% of my packages recently. We got a Christmas tree so broken with such a destroyed box that they couldn't even drag it to our front porch so they left it in our yard.

#

My dad ordered a new 4k 120hz monitor a few weeks ago for $800 and it came broken, the display looked like someone tried doing abstract art on it.

#

I have no clue why it keeps happening to us but I'm not risking computer components like that.

#

I do have a microcenter 20 miles from me, it's only a 22 minute drive

#

Maybe should visit

rocky beacon
#

Call your local FedEx and UPS and report it

cursive epoch
#

^

#

it's probably a bad employee causing all the problems

shy wyvern
#

I have multiple times

#

Like our entire neighborhood have filed complaints over this and nothing is getting done

#

The only carrier that doesn't do this is USPS

#

Not going to risk shipping a mobo. Maybe the CPU though, that should survive even a destroyed box

vast meadow
#

Yeah your cpu should be fine

grizzled bloom
#

If it's an Intel cpu maybe. Ryzen pins are... Fun.

chilly fulcrum
#

Hey I’m trying to get my 3200 ram to be at that speed but it is at 2133. I have been trying to fix it but with no avail can you help me?

limber dragon
#

Enable xmp

#

If you don't have xmp options in bios, you're locked out

lean osprey
#

Hey guys, I have MSI z590 unify and I found one problem with screw. It’s shredded by manufacturer and I’m figuring it out to unloose it. It’s a cover for M.2 NVME

shy wyvern
#

Alright, if it's shredded and stuck you can do a few things

#

You can use a drill bit "catch" the screw which will use brute force to unscrew it

#

I have a silicone grease too, it's a non conductive lubricant that won't eat plastic/PCBs/fans for when I need to lube computer components

#

Never use something like WD-40

#

It really helps free the screws too

lean osprey
#

Thanks

limber dragon
lean osprey
#

Ah, that’s what I’m looking for. I’m going to Home Depot to see if they have that

#

Thanks

severe pivot
#

I want to thank @vast meadow and @cursive epoch for helping me out with my CPU issue. I now have a 10th gen CPU installed and am flashing the bios. They were right with their conclusion that the bios did not support the 11th gen CPU. Fingers crossed I don't brick it flashing bios LOL

vast meadow
#

Yw :)

vernal cosmos
#

Pato go sleep

vast meadow
vernal cosmos
severe pivot
#

Ladies and gentlemen

#

We did it

vernal cosmos
#

GG

severe pivot
#

Now to put in the 11th gen and return this cpu to best buy

subtle crow
#

oh man, the temptation

#

anyone think I'll get a noticable performance limit switching the i7-950 on my x58 board with the xeon x5680?

#

the xeon x5680 has 6 cores to the i7's 4 and better single core

shy wyvern
#

My mom's HP 4790k machine has an HP OEM 120mm AIO

#

I didn't think HP has 120mm AIOs as an option

#

4790k still doin work though, I'm just cleaning out and replacing her hdd with a 2TB sata SSD

#

She wanted to buy a new computer but I told her Photoshop taking 5 minutes to load was the HDD and the CPU is plenty powerful

vernal cosmos
#

120mm aios are meh

shy wyvern
#

So I was really surprised when I opened this

vernal cosmos
#

Many many air coolers beat a 120mm aio

shy wyvern
#

Yeah but we're talking about HPs OEM air cooler

#

The one that performs worse than the Intel stock cooler?

#

HP and Dell both use the Stoopid crappy air coolers. No wonder her CPU is only 60° under full load

#

Replacing the thermal paste since it's been 5 years

limber dragon
shy wyvern
#

Ah

#

Still impressed

#

500 watt power supply for a system with a 45 watt gpu. Comes with 2x8 pcie power too. You could actually throw in like a 3060ti into here

#

Kinda sad that the motherboard only allows 4 pin CPU power tho

naive pendant
#

i dont think id put a 3060ti in there

hexed bison
#

Ayo is it worth to get the 12600k

finite elm
#

Maybe

warm bolt
#

What should I be looking in a mobo to go with 12700k?

limber dragon
#

find ram first

warm bolt
#

Was thinking of going ddr4 ram and mobo but depends on cost around black friday otherwise may just go ddr5 for future proofing.

limber dragon
#

no, like good luck finding ddr5 anywhere

hexed bison
#

indeed

#

it hard

warm bolt
#

Would be waiting on the ddr5 2-3 months if I go that route.

#

Not actually building until prolly at least january just getting a few parts.

#

I thought higher CAS latency was worse?

#

40 CAS latency with current ddr5 vs 16 for ddr4?

limber dragon
#

you're just looking at one part of the whole thing

shy wyvern
#

$300 5800x at microcenter

#

Like holy crap

#

$299 for a 5800x is absurd

hollow thorn
#

Not directly comparable between ddr4 and ddr5 btw, too many different changes beyond just frequency and timings @warm bolt

shy wyvern
limber dragon
#

does ddr4 not have 2 channels?

shy wyvern
#

Nope

#

It's new with ddr5

#

The 64 bit is split into 2 32bit

limber dragon
#

that's not channels

shy wyvern
#

Data width is split*

#

Idk what to call it

#

What would you call 2 data widths added together lol

limber dragon
#

each channel being 2 32bits instead of a single 64 bit

#

as you can see, ddr4 with dual channel

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shy wyvern
#

I meant

#

Each ddr5 dimm channel is split and each half can be accessed independently

#

So it's units of 32 bits instead of 64

#

Channels was a wrong word

#

So the latency is somewhat combated by a sharp increase in access efficiency

warm bolt
#

Fuu I'm not on this level of nerd yet to understand what all of this means. So basically should I go ddr4 or 5?

shy wyvern
#

Almost no difference yet for gaming

#

The increase in efficiency caused by splitting the data width is mitigated by a doubling in latency, so they're performing similar right now.

#

Gamer's nexus did a ddr4 3200mhz test with 12900k, was only performing 4% worse on average for gaming

#

I'm going to go ddr4 for my 12600kf... When they come back in stock at best buy or microcenter...

warm bolt
#

Is the overall cost really even that much different? Bc I was looking at ddr4 prices on pcpartpicker and ddr4 3600 wasn't really what I would consider to be that much cheaper than ddr5 when it was at it's original MSRP.

shy wyvern
limber dragon
#

the theoretical max efficiency is still the same because each channel is still 64 bits

livid sparrow
shy wyvern
#

Wait it was hardware unboxed I think

#

I get the Steve's mixed up

#

One of them did dual testing for their review

#

I'm stressing over my GPU problem

#

I'm about to become homeless over it lol

livid sparrow
#

GN didn't, they just did ddr5 with Alder Lake and the Win10/11 test so far

digital kernel
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Really interesting thing to me is how does it interact with the cache

limber dragon
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ddr4 at jedec is already ~80%, xmp ~85% and tuned ddr4 can reach 95%+

shy wyvern
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Intel literally has a "legacy game mode" in the bios for 12th gen z690 boards...

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It makes the ecores completely invisible to the OS so it passes vrm checks LOL

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I guess older titles won't need the ecores anyways.

cursive epoch
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It's still a pain that you have to toggle it all the time in bios

shy wyvern
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Just sucks that their solution for the issue is disabling 4 cores :/

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Seems kinda lazy to me to have to do that. And if you have a 12900k

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That's a whopping half the cores!

severe pivot
# severe pivot Now to put in the 11th gen and return this cpu to best buy

So.... my PC just crashed on me twice in a row, while only playing league and discord...
The screen when out first. i still heard game audio for a little, then the pc just reset. did it twice until i closed discord as it was launching, then i could finish playing the league game with no more crashes

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anyone have any idea why something like this would occur? my temps havent gone over 60C for CPU or GPU

cursive epoch
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How does it crash?

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Any blue screens?

severe pivot
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no blue screens, the screen goes totally black. i hear game sounds, monitor goes into stand by, then i see press del to open bios

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just like normal start up

cursive epoch
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Hmn

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Sounds like some instability in power delivery

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It doesn't sound much like ram issue

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But do run testmem5 just to verify

severe pivot
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do you have a config you want me to run in tm5?

cursive epoch
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Hmn, lemme find one

severe pivot
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im just running simple memory test

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says 0 erros so far

cursive epoch
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Nah, just run simple for now

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But do run anta777 later

severe pivot
cursive epoch
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I start suspecting it's a psu issue

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Restarts like that are most of the times from psu

severe pivot
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whyyyy

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i just....

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i have never had this much difficulty in my life LOL

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thank you for helping me

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is there a easy way to test temps?

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would overheating do it maybe as well?

cursive epoch
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Possible

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There's few ways you can monitor temps

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Use msi afterburner's osd with rtss

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Or leave hwinfo running in background

severe pivot
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i just have ique open.

cursive epoch
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And run a game

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For a while that is, then check back at max temps

severe pivot
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do i use

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uhh sensor to check maxes?

cursive epoch
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What sensor?

severe pivot
cursive epoch
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Ah

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Yep

severe pivot
cursive epoch
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watch for throttling maximum value

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if it says yes after gaming session

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then that's likely why the restarts happened

severe pivot
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i was not able to recreate....

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:I

limber dragon
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if you still hear the game or whatever after the screen goes black, that's video driver crashing, not power supply issue

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then windows detects that a vital driver crashed, and restarted the pc

cursive epoch
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hmn

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totally forgot that

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then it's gpu driver bein unstable

severe pivot
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so its unstable gpu driver

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i see

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it just randomly crashed on me btw. not even doing anything besides music

cursive epoch
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yeah

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it can still crash if it's unstable

warm bolt
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What does this number mean on memory?

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vital field
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length of it pretty much

warm bolt
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Fuuu $504 for 3TB of SSD

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I might just get 1tb and a hdd instead for now cause fuuu me

vital field
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ye, ssd and m.2 kinda expensive but pricing is getting better slowly

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theres been a good amount of sales and some even put some good deals for some nvmes in the #tech-deals channel

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also black friday/ cybermonday deals this month so could keep an eye out for some nice deals

warm bolt
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Well I checked pcpartpicker and the PCI4.0 are at their lows on newegg rn but still expensive.

cursive epoch
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you don't need pcie 4.0 drives

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oftentimes 4.0 drives aren't any better than 3.0

warm bolt
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The mobo I am looking at has 0 3.0

cursive epoch
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3.0 still works on it

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it's backwards compatible

vital field
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gen 4 i wouldnt bother with unless you really need those speeds and do stuff that can take take advantage of that stuff

warm bolt
rocky beacon
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Yes

cursive epoch
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yep

warm bolt
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Hmm. Well then I'll get one 4.0 one 3.0 then prolly.

rocky beacon
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What will you be doing with the computer?

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You will not be using Gen 4 speeds unless you are moving around singular large files really

warm bolt
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Programming, running programs, running hash crackers and other things bc getting into cybersecurity more soon, and then gaming.

rocky beacon
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It's a waste of money to buy one for most applications

vast meadow
# warm bolt Fuuu $504 for 3TB of SSD

Numbers that aren't 2^x aren't really common in computing so you can get a 4tb drive for around that price, but it would be cheaper to get 2x2tb ssds than 1x4tb

oak sand
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Uh when I am playing games im only using like 20% of my cpu lol

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and 50% of my gpu

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that seems too low

vast meadow
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That's normal

oak sand
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shouldnt it be using more lol

vast meadow
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Nah gaming only uses a few cores

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Your probs cpu bound tho

oak sand
vast meadow
oak sand
vast meadow
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Hmm

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Sounds right ish

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Overwatch is pretty cpu bound

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Also if you have an fps cap that would cause it

oak sand
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Also happens on destiny 2 and tekken 7

oak sand
vast meadow
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Idk bout those games

oak sand
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consistent like 250 fps

vernal cosmos
vast meadow
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But what are you using to read these numbers?

oak sand
vernal cosmos
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Watch it be task manager

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Yep

oak sand
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is that wrong

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lmao

vernal cosmos
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Ignore those values they are known to misreport