#cpus-mobo-and-memory

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elfin warren
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Interesting enough

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It's H370 but still

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They shaved the connector down instead of bending the pin

warped scroll
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so i bent the pin and i mean the fan is lighting up

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gonna hop into bios and see if changing it yeilds the right colors

elfin warren
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That was my next suggestion

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Hit the BIOS and see what settings are there

warped scroll
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worked

elfin warren
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👍

toxic ridge
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@elfin warren good news so far the updates seem to fixed my problems :) we now boot at 76 instead of 95 and with realitivley low fans instead of ear shattering fans

finite elm
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Microcenter finally is selling it for MSRP

vast meadow
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Now only need to do 5600x that prics is horrific

cyan raft
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is OLOy ram any good?

vernal cosmos
vast meadow
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Ballistix usually same price and don't have clearance issues and better dies afaik

vernal cosmos
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depends what OLOy ur looking at

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but yee its good

cyan raft
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specifically the warhawk

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im seeing it in a bunch of these newegg shuffle bundles and im curious about it

vernal cosmos
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It seems to have clearance issues

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should be fine unless you get a large aftermarket cooler

ionic hamlet
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I mean, it is pretty cool looking

vernal cosmos
dense frost
jaunty mulch
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I keep finding conflicting information about dual-channel and dual-rank memory with AMD Ryzen 9 5900x. Some say getting 4 sticks with them dual channel and dual rank increases gaming performance by about 5-10%. Other say using dual rank causes a decrease. Anyone know from experience?

flat shadow
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if you building a gundam, then yes
@dense frost what does gundam mean cus I saw a 3080 strix gundam and I’m like wtf is that

vast meadow
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The ranks don't matter too much tho mainly just dual channel

vast meadow
flat shadow
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So it’s fake transforms

vast meadow
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Just similar i believe

ionic hamlet
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Wouldn't call Gundam fake. Japanese love their mecha anime. It's a whole freaking genre.

flat shadow
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What about the cartoon transformer series

dense frost
rigid hemlock
flat shadow
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YIKES

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Anime themeed pc it's enough to keep all the girls out your room

rigid hemlock
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it looks fairly nice tbh

hollow thorn
# jaunty mulch I keep finding conflicting information about dual-channel and dual-rank memory w...

There's also a lot of conflicting info because there's not good enough testing at the moment.
All AM4 boards are dual channel by the way, no matter 2 sticks or 4 sticks. What we know for sure is 2 ranks per channel (either through 1 dual rank stick per channel, or 2 single rank stick per channel), performs better than 1 rank per channel, but we don't have good enough info on things like 4x8 vs 2x16

jaunty mulch
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🤔 thank you for the explanation.

vast meadow
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Do you want wifi?

hollow thorn
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some quality has to be sacrificed a bit, but b560m pro vdh

tight river
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do you want 2 or 4 ram slots

vast meadow
hollow thorn
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@jaunty mulch here's a nice video on what we know so far, they promised a follow-up vid, but no follow up yet >:(
https://youtu.be/-UkGu6A-6sQ

YouTube
Gamers Nexus
AMD Ryzen: 4 vs. 2 Sticks of RAM on R5 5600X for Up to 10% Better P...

This benchmark started as an AMD Ryzen 5000 memory timings and frequency benchmark (like of 3600 vs. 3200, 3800, with FCLK changes), but morphed into a 2x8GB vs. 4x8GB benchmark.
Sponsor: EVGA XR1 Capture Card on Amazon (https://geni.us/3IMrqPi)

Watch our AMD R5 5600X CPU review: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=01EhbmJAW-k
Watch our AMD R9 5950...

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vast meadow
jaunty mulch
hollow thorn
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Why would that be..?

vast meadow
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Btw the asrock one only has 2 ram slots but it doesn't really matter

hollow thorn
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It's testing 4x8 vs 2x8

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GN has the best testing methodologies I know out of any reviewers lel

vast meadow
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That mobo only has 2 ram slots btw but it doesn't really matter

jaunty mulch
vast meadow
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You won't need 32gb if just gaming for a good while

jaunty mulch
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were not*

hollow thorn
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Yea, we don't have good info on 4x8 vs 2x16, I agree that video isn't useful if the question is about 4x8 vs 2x16 @jaunty mulch

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But it is useful in seeing there may be a difference

vast meadow
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What's your list look like now?

hollow thorn
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I mean, about an hour ago some 3070's were on amazon for a brief moment

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rip

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ye

vast meadow
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Try get a 6800 from amd.com if you don't care about the ray tracing or nvenc

hollow thorn
hollow thorn
vast meadow
hollow thorn
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not gpu afaik

vast meadow
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Do it every day

hollow thorn
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I know they do CPU every thursday iirc

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camp da microcenters

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Closest microcenter to me is like 3 hours

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rip

vast meadow
hollow thorn
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who

vast meadow
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Apparently you can call and ask

vast meadow
hollow thorn
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wack

vast meadow
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🤞

fading citrus
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why talk about gpus in cpu chat

grim hornet
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Ryzen 5 5600x and i7 10700k have kinda the same price, i still can't choose

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Paired with the 3070

vast meadow
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i5 11400 and a b560 board or a ryzen 7 5800x or if you need more cores on the cheap a 10850k

broken onyx
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If you had the choice between a comp with a 10700 and a 5600 at the same price, with the attempt to possibly upgrade later, which one would be the better call?

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The Intel computer seems inferior, but it comes with a liquid cooler... And has reviews...

vast meadow
broken onyx
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Looks a bit bizzare

vast meadow
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thats a terrible case and looks overpriced

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looks like no airflow

broken onyx
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Thank you! I'm glad I wasn't crazy for thinking so

vast meadow
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okay apparantly not overpriced

broken onyx
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Yessir

vast meadow
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thats a good aio tbh

broken onyx
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Stick an extra 16 gigs of ram in that and I think it's okay

vast meadow
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the case look a lot better too

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the cooler on the 5600x build is terrible

broken onyx
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Thank you for that info, I was curious about that!

vast meadow
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np

broken onyx
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I wanted a bit more of a cpu upgrade from a 2700x, but that looks still decent

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Lmao nevermind it's sold out

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I need to be quicker

viral nebula
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so why would a CPU overclock cause game cutscene audio to go out of sync

hollow thorn
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well, CPU does everything

viral nebula
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5900X, I've tried 1.275v and 1.333v at 4.0GHz, 4.2GHz, 4.6GHz, etc. and nothing seemed to work, so now running on stock speeds

viral nebula
hollow thorn
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I mean, it could be many things, run OCCT large dataset for whatever you want, to test stability

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Who knows, maybe it's memory that's screwed

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or imc being bad

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yaknow

grizzled bloom
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Audio sync issues can occur when one core is going faster than another, or the CPU and GPU are out of sync. Often I chalk it up to poor programming.

viral nebula
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happens in RE Engine games so, hmm, yea

hollow thorn
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A lot of things could be at fault tbh, poor programming probably the most common xD

limber dragon
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sounds like unstable IF, if its actually cpu's fault, and no reason to be manually overclocking zen3

finite elm
viral nebula
limber dragon
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game boost applies a manual overclock

hollow thorn
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iirc game boost just does +400mhz

limber dragon
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nah, game boost locks all core to base clock and enables xmp

hollow thorn
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what

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On my chip, the last time I used it, it just did +400mhz to all core

vast meadow
limber dragon
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msi's in bios "game boost" does that

vast meadow
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Yikes

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Why would they disable boost

hollow thorn
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ye

viral nebula
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have to separately enable xmp from game boost

vast meadow
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There should just be something saying xmp in the main or memory section

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Or extreme memory profile

viral nebula
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ya, it's right on the first page, can't miss it, that's enabled, just was saying that game boost doesn't do both cpu and ram, but just cpu

silk ice
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Hey if memory won't post in xmp is that a valid reason to rma it? Or am I just out of luck? Been having a lot of trouble with this kit I have and would really prefer not to have to manually tune it if possible.

limber dragon
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what memory kit and cpu?

silk ice
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Patriot Viper 4 Blackout 2x16Gb 3600mhz cl18, and a 5600x I'll go look for the Newegg link to the kit in a moment. I bought it back in November when it was on sale for like $100.

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Realizing it was probably a mistake

limber dragon
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make sure the sticks are in slots 2 and 4 of the motherboard

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and did you just enable xmp/docp, or manually set 3600 and the timings?

vast meadow
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Sometimes cpus have hard time reaching higher mem freqs afaik and can be unlucky with the mem controller on the cpu but fitz is probably more helpful lol

silk ice
grizzled bloom
limber dragon
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see if it'll boot with just one of the sticks in (try with both sticks, one at a time)

vast meadow
silk ice
silk ice
limber dragon
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if you can get it to boot xmp with one of the sticks, post what zentimings shows https://zentimings.protonrom.com/

ZenTimings
ZenTimings

ZenTimings is a simple and lightweight app for monitoring memory timings on Ryzen platform.

clear oyster
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Hey guys, I’m wondering if you guys can give me advice on my pc build, I have an old gpu thx 650 ti boost in an old desktop and I want to use it in a new pc so I can game, it’s paired with an old amd a10 6800 but I have a Corsair aio on it, so I was thinking if I get a better cpu (maybe a ryzen 7 2700x) and overclock it, will it carry the system or am I just spending extra money just to get heavily bottlenecked.

silk ice
vast meadow
vast meadow
limber dragon
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might want to go into the memory timings and make sure gear down mode is enabled

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auto should be enabled at 3600, but mobos sometimes dont

silk ice
clear oyster
vast meadow
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Athalon?

hollow thorn
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it's a FM2 chip, the a10 6800k

vast meadow
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Yeah that's whar i thought

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That's not on a b450 board?

elfin warren
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They have a spare B450 they can use

vast meadow
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Ohh right i can't read lol didn't see extra

vast meadow
clear oyster
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Lol

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I don’t know wether I should get r5 or r7 because I don’t wanna waste money with the bottleneck

vast meadow
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Depends which r5 or r7

clear oyster
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2nd gen

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Prolly x

elfin warren
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Eh, don't invest in second gen

vast meadow
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I wouldn't bother with 2nd gen

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3rd

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Or 5th

clear oyster
elfin warren
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Because it's old, outdated and better things are available

clear oyster
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Paired with a b450?

elfin warren
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Yes

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Motherboard doesn't matter much nor affect performance

clear oyster
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Do you think the newer ones will be compatible

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And consistent

elfin warren
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OH yeah

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B450 can run 3000 or 5000 no problem

uncut goblet
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Hey all - maybe this is good timing, because I also have a motherboard question: Does anyone have any tips for choosing which mATX LGA 1200 board to use for a midrange gaming system? (probably paired with an i5-10600K, and either a 20 or 30 series card). If this question is too specific - just any brand recommendations when looking at boards? Or doesn't matter at all? Thanks very much

clear oyster
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It’s not an expensive mb so I don’t know if it’s that good lol

clear oyster
elfin warren
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2nd gen will be used at this point so......depends heavily

clear oyster
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Is it good to get used?

vast meadow
clear oyster
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I have a spare coolers and thermal paste

vast meadow
elfin warren
clear oyster
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The exact board is an msi b450-a pro max

vast meadow
elfin warren
vast meadow
clear oyster
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It’s was only 110 when I got it so it may not be top of their priority

uncut goblet
clear oyster
hollow thorn
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11400 cheap and good performing

vast meadow
elfin warren
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Keep that link handy lol

clear oyster
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Okay

hollow thorn
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lol

vast meadow
hollow thorn
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I just use the masterlist and search for any mobos

clear oyster
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Do you think you could dm me the links you sent me lol

uncut goblet
clear oyster
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I’m on mobile

vast meadow
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Np

clear oyster
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I broke the pcie connected on my mobo so I’m forced to be on my phone while I upgrade

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If I give you guys my full specs of everything would it be easier for you guys to help lol I’m all over the place

vast meadow
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Ehh sure

clear oyster
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Msi b450-a pro max
Galaxy gtx 650ti boost
Evga 600w bq bronze
CORSAIR Vengeance LPX 16GB 3200mhz
Old Corsair aio
Seagate 2tb external hard drive -_-
Wd caviar blue 600gb hdd
And pirated windows 10 pro 64bit LOLL

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@vast meadow @elfin warren ^^^^^^^^^

vast meadow
clear oyster
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These are all of my upgraded parts, I only need a cpu to finish it

vast meadow
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Yeah what's your budget

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But I'd highly extremely recommend an ssd in that upgrade

clear oyster
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My budget doesn’t really exist, I just don’t wanna spend unnecessary monies

vast meadow
clear oyster
clear oyster
vast meadow
clear oyster
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Unless it’s totally worth it

vast meadow
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100%

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Just a 500gb boot drive

clear oyster
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Yeah, I will get one soon, but I just wanna get my system running first

vast meadow
vast meadow
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So easier to do on sdd

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You can get a sn550 for 60$ for 500gb

clear oyster
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Yeahhh so how would I reinstall it lol

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It’s pirated

vast meadow
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With windows media creation tool

clear oyster
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Sorta

vast meadow
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You don't need to have windows activated to use it fully anyway there's just a slight watermark and you cant change windows background

clear oyster
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Yeahhh, ofc I know that but I’m not sure how to reinstall it at all

vast meadow
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I'd recommend something like a used 3600 or 3700x anyway and a sn550

clear oyster
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R7?

vast meadow
vast meadow
clear oyster
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My bad I read 3600 or 3600x

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I was confused because I thought you recommended r7 earlier

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Lol

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So when I get it used, is there somewhere you recommend in case I need to get a refund if it’s like defective and a scam

elfin warren
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Again, ypull need to update the vbios on that card before it will work lol. Its too old.

vast meadow
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Ehh the specific model is more important than if it's ryzen 5 or 7 tbh

clear oyster
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I really don’t know what vbios is, what would it do? @elfin warren

vast meadow
elfin warren
vast meadow
clear oyster
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Okay, I know eBay isn’t the best with reliability so I just wanna be safe lol incase you guys recommend a different site

elfin warren
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If you plug that gpu into a modern mobo it wont work.

clear oyster
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Ohhhh you just saved me days of stress

elfin warren
clear oyster
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I would’ve been freaking out because I asked a few other people and you are the first to bring it up

clear oyster
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I went on the ltt server earlier and nobody really helped

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So I waited till I was free to go on Newegg server for more help

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Alright so I think I am going to get a 3700x

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Would overclocking be any worth?

vast meadow
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Well look at prices first

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No

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Pbo is better in pretty much every way

clear oyster
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I heard that I should overclock the gpu and cpu, would that be a good idea? @elfin warren

hollow thorn
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overclocking is overclocking

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your thing to research and gauge risk and rewards

clear oyster
clear oyster
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Elaborate please lol

hollow thorn
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pinned

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guides

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info

vast meadow
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Also you need better cooling for overclocking

clear oyster
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I have a Corsair aio

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Along with a spare wraith prism and a lil cooler master

vast meadow
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I mean it just adds extra heat and pbo is really good imo not worth

clear oyster
hollow thorn
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percision boost overdrive

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in my opinion

vast meadow
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Ye

clear oyster
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I’m sorry man I’m a bit slow, I had a brain injury last year

hollow thorn
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is ok

vast meadow
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No worries

clear oyster
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Precision boost overdrive is?

hollow thorn
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amd auto oc thingy

clear oyster
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Ohhhh

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Okay

vast meadow
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A boosting algorithm buy amd

clear oyster
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I assumed

vast meadow
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Basically auto better overclocking that boosts instead of stuck at 1 frequency

clear oyster
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Ohhh okay

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So basically like dynamic or active

vast meadow
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Not sure exactly what you mean but imma head because it's definitely not almost 3am somehow

clear oyster
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Lollll no probs, I really appreciate the help

pale geyser
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Do i need to apply another thermal paste when installing my ryzen 5 3400g. Doesn't it already have a thermal paste included

elfin warren
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Cpu doesnt. Cooler does.

pale geyser
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Ahh okay

scenic iris
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is all ddr3 ram the same?

cursive epoch
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no

scenic iris
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whats the difference between them all

cursive epoch
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well, the ic used in them

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but you can mix any ddr3 together, just that there's chances it could refuse to work

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so it's best to match in capacity, speed and latency

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same brand would be nicer, or model even

scenic iris
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aight cus i got a 4gb computer with a good graphics card but hella slow cus ram bottleneck

cursive epoch
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What's the specs?

scenic iris
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what brand do you recommend for super cheap

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i think a modded quadro 600

cursive epoch
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Well, ddr3 new isn't worth it to get, so it's best to look for used

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Also, I need to know the exact specs before I can put my words on it tbh

scenic iris
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ok what websites should i look at

cursive epoch
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ebay, I suppose

scenic iris
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aight thanks bro

grizzled bloom
gentle acorn
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Should I get a i9-9900k or should I stick with getting the 10850k? With the 9900k I could stick with the same motherboard but with the 10850k I get more performance but then also need a new motherboard so would it be worth the extra $190?

elfin warren
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What stocks?

nova hornet
grizzled bloom
gentle acorn
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Alright

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Streaming much different either?

vast meadow
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0 diff, as for streaming you should be using the envenc encoder on your 2080

last lynx
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Hey, if I wanted to go a step above a b560 motherboard for Intel what would be the next option?

vast meadow
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Z590 but there's no point unless you have a k series CPU it's literally b560 that lets you overclock

last lynx
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ahh, looking for a decent motherboard for an i5 10400f

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cause all the b560 mobos are going out of stock

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well at least the budget ones

vast meadow
last lynx
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its for my brother, hes getting a new mobo, he has a 1660 super and he has the processor already, hes upgrading from some oem mobo

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also USA

vast meadow
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I wouldn't really bother getting a new motherboard unless the one they have is broken you don't get extra performance from a motherboard upgrade, the board in the prebuilt was most likely b460 but if they already have not worth the extra 100+$

last lynx
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nah its just that the psu in his prebuilt is a literally bomb, and its like proprietary for the mobo, it doesn't have a 24 pinned connector, and the 6 pinned connector for the cpu.

vast meadow
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Ahh fair

last lynx
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my brother wants to mainly replace the psu, but at the same time we also gotta get a new mobo

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its a pain,but its all good.

vast meadow
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Yeah most oem mobos are proprietary so you'll need a new psu probs

last lynx
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thats what rlly grinds me gears, cause if we didn't have a shortage in the first place I would've built him his pc, but when his 3 year old laptop was breaking down we really had no other choice.

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I mean he did get a pretty good gpu so I ain't rlly gonna complain

vast meadow
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Yeah i getcha

finite elm
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5600x for 299 finally at Microcenter

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I guess they decided they sold enough 5800x's since they were selling the 5600x and 5900x for over MSRP

hollow sandal
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I’m gonna either but the 5600x or 3700x at this point because of the price decrease at micro center, is the 5600x worth the 20 dollar increase over the 3700x? I would be losing 2 cores, and I plan to stream a lot, and I’ll be using a 960 so I plan on using cpu encoding over nvenc for the time being, what would be the best choice in your guys’ opinions

rocky beacon
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10700k

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10850k

hollow sandal
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I’m saying between those two

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If I go intel I’d have to buy a cooler which makes it more expensive if I want a decent one

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And I already spent my budget planning for amd

vernal cosmos
dense frost
vast meadow
hollow sandal
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True but I plan to upgrade after the shortage

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I think I will most likely stick with the 3700x because of the lowered cost

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And streaming

dense frost
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nice

hollow sandal
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I mean I’m literally coming from a phenom 2 x6

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So anything is faster at this point

vast meadow
dense frost
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oh dang! welcome to the club brother

hollow sandal
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But I’d be streaming which what makes those extra cores very appealing

split copper
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top end 6 core Phenoms are wild

vast meadow
split copper
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would be a bonkers retro rig

hollow sandal
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I know I’m gonna keep my old pc

vast meadow
elfin warren
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Gtx960

hollow sandal
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True I guess my budget is pretty tight atm because I didn’t expect the 5600x to lower in cost

vast meadow
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Get an i5 11400 and b560 then

hollow sandal
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My budget is 470ish for mbo and cpu

vast meadow
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Performs fairly close to 5600x and a good bit cheaper

hollow sandal
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Id prefer to go amd

vast meadow
dense frost
vast meadow
hollow sandal
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It doesn’t mean I can’t go the 5600x it just means I’ll probably just get the msi a pro instead of the mpg

vast meadow
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Just go intel tbh 5600x is gross pricing

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For only like 5% more perf or so

hollow sandal
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I mean I can afford it

vast meadow
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Not worth, better saving the money and putting that towards a gpu upgrade or something

dense frost
hollow sandal
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I’m not gonna get a gpu for a year anyway lol

vast meadow
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Still

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You can get an i5 11400 and b560 for the price of just the 5600x and the intel parts are always in stock

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And they perform pretty close

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Remember you gotta buy new ram too btw

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Cant use your old ram

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@hollow sandal

hollow sandal
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I already bought everything else including the ram

vast meadow
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What ram?

hollow sandal
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Crucial ballistix 3600

vast meadow
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Nice

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Good

hollow sandal
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Ddr4 of course

vast meadow
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Okay

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I'd go i5 11400, b560 board and a gammaxx 400, id cooling se 224xt or vetroo v5 cooler they're all 25-35$ and will kick the stock coolers ass

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Then pocket the rest of the money

hollow sandal
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I’m basically buying a whole new pc it’s just all I have left to buy is motherboard + cpu at micro center

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I’ll do a bit more research but I’ll probably end up going amd anyway tbh because of my cringe baby brand loyalty and past experiences with intel

vast meadow
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You're just throwing away money for worse perf especially if you go 3rd gen Ryzen but okay

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I like amd too but intel wins at budget atm

elfin warren
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Way more bang for the buck if you're going to rely on CPU things

hollow sandal
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True I guess

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I’ll see what I do

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I personally think I’ll end up with a 3700 but I’ll see what I do

vast meadow
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That would be a bigger waste of money tbh if you need more than 6 cores an i7 10700 or i9 10900 or 10850k

hollow sandal
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I’m just having a bruh moment rn

vast meadow
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Only reason would be if you already have the b550 or b450 to get any amd cpu under a 5800x

hollow sandal
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I guess so I just planned this out already with amd in mind that’s all

vast meadow
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There's no diff just you get to get a better cpu for cheaper with intel

hollow thorn
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Market always changes when time passes :)

cyan raft
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I have a 3700x rn and sure yeah it’s really good but it’s outperformed by the most recent intel cpus at a similar price point

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Just out of curiosity how is the 5950x? I entered into the shuffle for it

vast meadow
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5950x isn't a huge jump im single core perf, yes it's a big ish jump but not worth unless you need 16 cores, also you'll need an expensive cooler for it

cyan raft
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My main pc I have my 3700x is more of a workstation for engineering/cad that can play games very well on the side

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If I win the shuffle for it would it be a good idea to upgrade the cpu?

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Probably won’t but just food for thought really

grizzled bloom
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3700X is still great for gaming, it won't bottleneck even a 3090.

vast meadow
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Depending on res ofc

grizzled bloom
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Not really, anything from 1080p to 8k will be fine. It might not be as smooth as a 5000 series CPU but it'll still run the GPU at 100% most of the time.

vast meadow
grizzled bloom
#

Depends on what you're playing, if it's a CPU bound title like CSGO it'll run so many frames it doesn't matter anyway, like 500+

vast meadow
#

All the frames

wheat laurel
grizzled bloom
#

If you think that's bad you should see the mobile CPU benches

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5600H destroys the 10980H

wheat laurel
#

yeah, honestly, I am just impressed at how horrendous rocket lake is, and how bad it looks alder lake will be

naive pendant
wheat laurel
grizzled bloom
#

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naive pendant
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They are only available in pre-builds right..

wheat laurel
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no way

grizzled bloom
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5600H is the mobile

naive pendant
#

Oh ok laptops

grizzled bloom
#

5700G is the desktop

wheat laurel
#

that's just embarrassing

naive pendant
#

Yeah the g ones are available in pre-builds

grizzled bloom
wheat laurel
#

why don't they sell straight to consumers, I would buy one, especially with gpu shortages

naive pendant
#

Zen 3 is some pretty sweet engineering

wheat laurel
#

yeah

grizzled bloom
#

The really embarrasing part is that the 10980HK has more cores and everything

wheat laurel
#

lol

grizzled bloom
#

And still gets spanked in multi core benches

wheat laurel
#

it's also almost definitely worse with rocket lake because of their ridiculous power draw

naive pendant
#

Bruh 9 out of top 10 mobile CPUs are RYZEN😂😂

wheat laurel
#

what is the intel one then?

grizzled bloom
#

10980HK

naive pendant
#

Yeah

wheat laurel
#

jesus

grizzled bloom
#

Their absolute top chip right now (8c16t) on mobile is spanked by the new mid-tier offering 5600H (6c12t)

wheat laurel
#

wow

naive pendant
#

What about temps

grizzled bloom
#

Then look at the 5900HX at the top and you see just how bad the gap really is

grizzled bloom
naive pendant
#

Ah right...

wheat laurel
#

I guess if the only reason the desktop ones are usable is power draw, how good could the laptop ones be

dense frost
grizzled bloom
#

As far as TDP it is the same 45W for 5900HX and 10980H

wheat laurel
#

lol

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that's impressively bad

vast meadow
naive pendant
#

Zen3, an APU, perfect for the situation rn

vast meadow
grizzled bloom
#

They've already confirmed they will, it'll just be about 6-9 months after launch probably

#

Grey market will still be an option for the new G processors, aliexpress and such

vast meadow
#

Or that site that was selling 4650g and a mobo combo might again lol

rich zephyr
#

Greetings all!

#

What is the best way to mix RAM sizes in my computer or should I just not do it?
I ordered a computer with 16GB of RAM in two sticks of 8. I wanted 32GB and I thought there was only two slots so I also ordered 2x16GB sticks (same type, speed, manufacturer). Turns out, the computer has 4 slots so ... can I put this 32GB in for a total of 48 or would I be better off with just the 32?

grizzled bloom
#

Generally that isn't recommended, since it'll put stress on the memory controller and only some of the memory will work in dual channel mode

#

Best bet is to just do the 32GB

#

That's still more than 95% of people need

limber dragon
#

If they're the same ics, you can run triple rank ram

rich zephyr
#

Thanks @grizzled bloom , I had read that but it didn't seem to be a cut-and-dry thing. Will a performance check such as passmark tell me the results of experimentation in a reliable way?

grizzled bloom
#

Assuming it works at all, there's plenty of memory benchmarks

limber dragon
#

More of just see if you can boot with 1 8gb and 1 16gb stick in each channel

rich zephyr
#

@limber dragon I will have 2x8GB and 2x16GB ... they are same brand, speed, etc.

grizzled bloom
#

AIDA64 I'd recommend

limber dragon
#

Brand and speed dont mean same chips

grizzled bloom
#

If they're also the same timings it might be the same IC, but unless it's corsair or gskill it's hard to reliably tell

rich zephyr
#

The 8 and the 16 are both G.SKILL TridentZ RGB Series 288-Pin DDR4 SDRAM DDR4 3200 ... I don't see anything about chips, though

#

Anyway ... thanks ... I will try the AIDA64 test after I get the computer next week.

grizzled bloom
#

There will be a number on the white sticker for the gskill sticks

rich zephyr
#

I will check that out! Thanks! My goal was 32GB which is already probably more than I need. Can't wait to get the computer next week and check it out!

#

Thanks again.

cyan raft
#

So my current ram is 32Gb cl15 3000 MHz would it be a good idea to replace it with 64Gb Cl16 3600mHz?

deep salmon
#

Seeing your name, I assume you have a 3700X?

cyan raft
#

Yeah

hardy moon
#

Probably pretty good gains

cyan raft
#

Now only thing is Corsair vengeance pro or gskil trident Z rgb

deep salmon
#

Think so, and AFAIK the 3700X will support the 3600MHz.

grizzled bloom
deep salmon
#

what's the rest of your build look like? And do you care about price?

cyan raft
#

Price isn’t a big deal

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One sec I’ll put together a part picker list

deep salmon
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lol wait 🤦‍♂️ the gskil is more expensive and 3200MHz still

cyan raft
#

On newegg the 2 are about the same price

deep salmon
#

very shiny xD

vast meadow
#

And the aio meh

deep salmon
#

wait so is this your current build or what you are gonna buy?

vast meadow
#

And too much for 3000mhz ram

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Also wtf 130 for a 500gb ssd

grizzled bloom
#

I think that was the current build

cyan raft
#

Current build

#

Had it for 2 years now except for gpu

vast meadow
#

Why do you have a 500$ mobo tho

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You better not have payed 500 for it lol

vast meadow
cyan raft
#

I got a $400 bundle for both the cpu and mobo

vast meadow
#

Ahh that's nice tbf

cyan raft
#

Ehh I’ll go with the Corsair ram

#

Looks a bit cleaner than the g.skill

deep salmon
#

Trying to look for a mcdonalds "I'm loving it" but there's none

cyan raft
#

Wdym?

deep salmon
#

was looking for an emoji

cyan raft
#

Ahh ok lol

deep salmon
#

but I think that's on my work Slack

cyan raft
#

I’m most likely going to replace the case to a 4000d airflow soon

deep salmon
#

btw can you link the corsair you found? Can't find 3600 MHz and CL16. There's CL16 but 3466MHz

cyan raft
#

Nvm Newegg doesn’t allow CL16 for 64Gb

#

G. Skill it is

deep salmon
#

T_T cruelty of this world

cyan raft
#

;-;

deep salmon
#

Do you live near the sea btw? You can place your rig by the window and let it be a beacon for all the ships passing by

#

You give the saying "lit af" a new meaning

cyan raft
#

Lmao as a matter of fact I live about 5 minutes away from the ocean

vast meadow
vast meadow
cyan raft
#

crucial?

deep salmon
#

yh ballistix is under crucial

cyan raft
#

ahh ok

median kelp
#

Does anyone know how to enable xmp within the bios on a z590 a pro board? I’m trying to set my ram to 3200 mhz instead of the 2666 it is currently set to

naive pendant
#

Ok guys, I just got my refund for newegg for $200.

I need a new mobo for around that price (the cpu I have is the i7-10700f)
and all the other parts of my pc are linked down below, help would be appreciated!
https://pcpartpicker.com/user/dannyboyyesahh/saved/XdFXkL
(also please @ me when responding)

median kelp
#

I have the z590 a pro

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@naive pendant which is a really good mobo, but you’ll have to see which z590 to get as that one is only compatible with 11th gen

#

I think the p will work, but you’ll have to fact check that

naive pendant
#

im really bad with mobos

elfin warren
#

MSI Z590 a pro?

#

It'll do 10th and 11th gen

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Most Z590 will do both

vast meadow
vast meadow
naive pendant
vast meadow
#

It's not dw

median kelp
#

Do I need to restart it again and make sure my bios is updated?

vast meadow
median kelp
#

I have an i5 11600k, Z590 A-Pro, and Oloy Warhawk ddr4 3200

vast meadow
vast meadow
median kelp
#

My ram is seated correctly, I have 2 sticks in 2 and 4 but only after I went to enable xmp this occurred

vast meadow
#

And make sure it's in dual channel mode?

#

So should look like this is you only have 2 sticks

20210414_235010.jpg
median kelp
#

This is what it looks like right now after I just turned it off

vast meadow
#

Okay, did you reseat the ram?

#

If not try that now

#

Then try boot back up into bios

median kelp
#

I’m reseating it now

vast meadow
#

👍

median kelp
#

Do I have to manually enable dual channel?

elfin warren
#

no

#

It's just making sure each stick is in the right slot

median kelp
#

Yeah, I reseated it but I still have the amber light

#

When I booted it up again

elfin warren
#

What CPU and motherboard?

vast meadow
#

11600k z590 a pro

elfin warren
#

Hmmmmm

vast meadow
#

They getting dram lef

#

Led on mobo

#

Time to clear cmos

#

It posted just not with xmp

median kelp
#

Should I clear cmos

vast meadow
#

I would

median kelp
#

You just unplug your pc and remove the little battery right

vast meadow
#

Yep

median kelp
#

I cleared my cmos and now the light is a very bright white

elfin warren
#

Different light then

#

There 4, DRAM, VGA, CPU and BOOT

median kelp
#

The light stayed on for like 10 seconds and then it went off

hollow hollow
#

I'm looking for a 4 pin CPU power cable but I need both ends to be male so it will plug into PSU and board, any tips on where I can get one? all the ones i've found are male female but not male male

split copper
#

you're looking at extensions

#

and modular cables are often proprietary so if you're missing a cable from the power supply you should get replacement parts from the manufacturer

limber dragon
#

He's looking for replacement cables, not extensions. Extensions have a male and female end, and extend the cable. Pretty much just need EPS cables for the psu

wheat halo
#

Cablemod has cables for some psus

#

So check them out

#

@hollow hollow

limber dragon
#

Amazon might be faster, cablemod took months for my 24 pin replacement

#

Also if you're in the US, PPCS might have it or be able to make it for you

deep salmon
#

Not sure if everyone else would agree, but the app Etsy also has people who do custom PSU cables.

#

It's individual people who do it as a hobby or as their source of income and can rarely negotiate on the price....

vast meadow
#

Please don't get individuals cable extensions, pinouts are different on many models of psu, cable mod can't even get it right all the time let alone an individual

deep salmon
#

AFAIK you shouldn't mix cables from one PSU with another so I never know how the hobbyists do them....but the choice is there.

#

It was just a suggestion if all someone needed was a single cable. But yes, doing your research and if you have manufacturer warranty and they can provide it, best choice.

hollow hollow
#

The problem is that I have a Dell optiplex board and a seasonic PSU that never came with the cable so idk if they'll even have it

vast meadow
vast meadow
near crescent
#

Can’t decide between 5600x and 5800x. I mainly game, but plan on getting back to streaming on Twitch for fun now that I have more time to play.

Most likely going for an X570 Tomahawk to handle it. (Currently running a 3070 with an 1800X).

Should I just get the 5800X for the extra cores in case I beed them down the line?

deep salmon
#

Going all out, if price is of no concern....I'd say go with the 5800X

hollow thorn
#

X570 tomahawk not necessary btw

deep salmon
#

More cores, and seeing as you had the 1800X with a 3070. You seem like the kind of person who doesn't regularly upgrade their machine.

hollow thorn
#

Also, I'd just go z490+10700k atm

#

5800x pricing is silly

deep salmon
hollow thorn
#

And you have to buy a new board anyways

#

@deep salmon am4 do be dead tho

deep salmon
#

I went 3900X rather than 5000 series myself. From a 3600 to 3900X

hollow thorn
#

And a 5950x will do fine on smth like a b550 arous elite for example

deep salmon
#

I suppose it depends on the person buying it as well. Maybe they want AMD specifically, and is gaming/streaming all it's for? They did mention maybe needing extra cores down the line.

hollow thorn
#

Two main options imo.
10700k+z490
5800x+b550

near crescent
# hollow thorn X570 tomahawk not necessary btw

I built it 4 years ago with an 1800X and 1080ti. Ran with the best of them for a while.

AMD vs. Intel doesn’t really matter that much. Mostly to be able to stream and game without issue or frame loss.

vast meadow
#

If they need extra cores an i9 10900/10850k is cheaper than a 5800x so

hollow thorn
#

Yea, streaming and gaming doesn't really need cores, nvenc will do the work

deep salmon
near crescent
#

I figured the X570 was needed for the Gen 4 PCIe for the WD Black S850 and the video card.

near crescent
deep salmon
#

Which would mean you now have the chance to go either team blue or red

hollow thorn
#

Sn850 eh, did you already buy it?

#

Because the drive is fairly silly if you don't have a workload that can take use of the seq speeds

near crescent
#

Yeah, it was for another build, but they backed out.

hollow thorn
#

Oh well, B550 has a m.2 slot with pcie 4.0 anyways

devout mothBOT
#
TechForgeGaming#8760 has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

vast meadow
near crescent
#

Ooops. For poops and giggles.

#

It’s 2021, are we really censoring language? 😆

vast meadow
#

Get a pilot e instead tbh

vast meadow
near crescent
#

I’ve been out of the game for a bit.

hollow thorn
#

They already have it, so it's fine.

near crescent
#

That word is PG13. lol

hollow thorn
#

But for next time, know that pcie 4.0 drives don't currently scale up for rnd speeds, meaning good pcie 3.0 drives with good nand will outperform pcie 4.0 drives in rnd workloads. P31 is a 130$ for 1tb pcie 3.0 drive.

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near crescent
#

But I think I got a few decent responses. I actually didn’t consider going Intel and forgot that’s an option.

hollow thorn
#

@near crescent back to CPU+Mobo things, what's your current ram?

deep salmon
vast meadow
near crescent
#

I have 4x 8GB Corsair Vengeance RGB 3200mhz

hollow thorn
#

Ya that's why windshields changed his nickname lol

near crescent
#

The PC was my first build and never considered that dual channel was accessed faster.

hollow thorn
#

Well, that's still dual channel.

vast meadow
#

Well you're using dual channel anyway lol

hollow thorn
#

And 4x8 outperforms 2x8, we have testing from GN.
(On Ryzen at least)

near crescent
#

Oh, they confirmed that?

hollow thorn
vast meadow
#

Yup

#

Ryzen loves ram

near crescent
#

So I should go for 4 sticks if I go Ryzen.

vast meadow
#

Intel is like meh

hollow thorn
#

Note that this only applies to 2x8 vs 4x8

#

And the principle has to deal with having more ranks per channel

vast meadow
#

Just use your current ram tbh

hollow thorn
#

Does not apply to 2x16 vs 4x8

#

But yea, keep your current ram, it's good nuff.

near crescent
#

I plan on upgrading my ram as well. These parts are getting used for my girlfriend’s son’s first gaming PC.

vast meadow
#

Then get ballistix 3600cl16

near crescent
#

I was looking at 2x16GB 3600mhz 16CL. Sub $200 and plus I’m getting rid of all RGB and going pure black and silver.

vast meadow
#

It's 93-110$ if you want rgb

#

Yep

near crescent
#

It was either those or Ripjaws.

vast meadow
#

Ballistix is the cheapest 3600cl16 iirc

#

For 2x16

hollow thorn
#

Well

#

Yea

near crescent
#

Thank you, @deep salmon, @hollow thorn, and @vast meadow. 😊

hollow thorn
#

:)

deep salmon
#

no worries! Sorry I wasn't of much help.

hollow hollow
vast meadow
#

Like no 24 pin connector etc

near crescent
#

I’ll be honest. x570 and the gen 4 M.2 is more for the heck of it. Just like getting a 3080 or 6800xt (whichever I can get). I don’t need them as I play 1440p, but it’s nice to have the extra power on tap than need it and not have it.

vast meadow
cyan raft
#

Is it a better idea to get 4x16 or 2x32 ram?

vast meadow
#

Whatevers cheaper if you're not going to upgrade

#

But why do you need 64gb ram?

cyan raft
#

Work

vast meadow
#

Like cad or video rendering?

cyan raft
#

Both of them

vast meadow
#

Ahh

#

Fair

#

Well whatever is cheaper tbh if you don't want to upgrade

hollow hollow
#

The dell board does have a 24 pin connector

#

But it also has stupid 5 pin fan headers

vast meadow
#

Lol

woven epoch
#

Okay, just making sure how much of a performance would i get switching from 3600 to 5600x for workstation ?

vast meadow
#

A decent amount but nowhere near as much as going to a 3700x or 5800x in multi core

woven epoch
#

Ah shoot, guess my due to my tight budget maybe it's not worth the upgrade ?

vast meadow
#

What do you have atm 3600x? Depending on the task but usually gen over gen isn't really worth side grading to

woven epoch
#

Atm i have a 3600,

white plinth
elfin warren
#

what motherboard

white plinth
elfin warren
#

What motherboard do you have

white plinth
#

Rog strix b450-f gaming

#

Asus

elfin warren
#

Ah, ok. the 5800x will require a cooler to go with it

#

and 3600 C16 ram is recommended

white plinth
elfin warren
#

I don't recommend the 3800XT, overpriced

#

5600x or 5800x would be fine

#

and some new ram

#

That AIO is also overpriced

#

Arctic freezer II or EK 240MM RGB or Lian Li Galahad

vast meadow
#

Arctic liquid ii* btw

white plinth
#

I already have the aio

elfin warren
#

oh

white plinth
#

Like installed in ky build right now

#

And I'm trynna see what ram I have

elfin warren
#

That motherboard will require a BIOS update for the 5000 series before you install the CPU also, just a heads up

white plinth
#

Hmmm okay where do I get the updaye

#

And you said you recommend the X not theXT

#

And I need 3800 ram?

#

Cus my ram is 3200

#

16gb

#

Sorry re read it you said 3600

#

Will it not work with 3200?

elfin warren
#

3200 is just a bit slow for 5000 series and will hold the CPU back a bit

white plinth
#

Okay so I could upgrade the ram later

#

?

#

And is from the 1700 to the 5800 a big upgrade

#

Sorry I don't know much about processor

elfin warren
#

huge upgrade

white plinth
#

What about this?

#

I tend to build on a budget lol

elfin warren
#

Nah, don't go third gen

white plinth
#

Okay

#

Stay in the 5000s?

elfin warren
#

5600x if you want a $300 CPU

finite elm
elfin warren
#

I highly doubt their ram is 3200 C14

finite elm
#

True lol

elfin warren
#

and with the price of 3200 C14, just go 3600 C16 for more bandwidth

white plinth
#

Okay so you said not the XT cuz its overpriced so the X?

#

This one?

finite elm
#

5600x won't be in stock on Newegg i thing. Do you live near a microcenter?

elfin warren
#

Yes, XT isn't worth the price you're going to pay

white plinth
#

The XT is cheaper tho

#

It was 412

#

And the X was 488

elfin warren
#

Right

#

but

white plinth
#

Wait nvm it was 3rd gen

#

Don't mind me

elfin warren
#

for a few dollars more gets spanked by 5800x

white plinth
#

Being stupid

elfin warren
#

It's ok

white plinth
#

Yeah

#

I just realised

#

Okay so wjere do I get that update

elfin warren
#

From your board manufacturers website

white plinth
#

Okay cool thanks

#

Gknna wait a bit on the ram

#

Ginna stick with 3200 right now

elfin warren
white plinth
#

My current processor is just tanking

elfin warren
#

Ram is good for a bit of a performance boost so

white plinth
#

Yeah I know

elfin warren
#

don't forget about it XD

white plinth
#

Just can't really get it atm lol

#

Trust me I wont

#

I got the ryzen 7 I have the first week it came out

#

And that's the update for the 5000 series upgrade?

elfin warren
#

Version 4301

finite elm
#

Good luck with new cpu whenever you get it (:

white plinth
#

Thank you @finite elm

#

And thank you @elfin warren

elfin warren
#

YW

white plinth
#

I was reading it and it said 3000 series so I wanted to make sure

naive pendant
#

BTW, forget about turning PBO if you buy a 5800x

#

on a b450-f

#

unless you got a VRM fan

hollow thorn
#

Meh, if should do fine with a case with good airflow

haughty jasper
#

AMD Ryzen 5 3600 on a ASUS ROG B550-F Gaming Motherboad with 16 GB of 3200 MHz

elfin warren
#

?

haughty jasper
#

Is it a good rig?

#

I forgot to type that.

#

Sorry.

elfin warren
#

Is this something you're looking at buying?

haughty jasper
#

No, this is what I have. I am seeing if I need to upgrade or see if this will do me for some time

elfin warren
#

Should be OK for a while

haughty jasper
#

Okay, because my friend is giving me his Ryzen 5 5600 XT and a RX 5700 XT in a few months.

elfin warren
#

Oh ya, that be nice

#

Don't forget to update BIOS before you install the 5600

haughty jasper
#

I might need help with that. I am not big at knowing how to update the BIOS

#

But I will surely look into it. Me and him have the same motherboard

elfin warren
#

Get file, put on thumb drive, reboot to BIOS, head to UPdate section, update, done

#

EZ PZ

haughty jasper
#

Okay

#

I will get his help lol

#

Thanks

elfin warren
#

YW

#

Just come back when you're ready to update

sinful harbor
#

pijaaaaaaaaaaaaa

vernal cosmos
#

You dont need a bios update on any b550 board to support a 3600XT

#

Since 5600XT isnt even a thing

#

Cpu wise

native thistle
#

Hey I’m trying to update my bios, but it keeps saying” bios file does not exist” any help?

vast meadow
#

Did you unzip the folder before putting it on the usb

#

And is your usb formatted as fat32?

native thistle
#

Yup. A guide said to “copy” the file but I just “moved” it

#

I feel that might be the problem

#

Not sure

vast meadow
#

Nope

#

Did you plug the usb into the motherboard and not the front panel btw?

native thistle
#

Front panel

vast meadow
#

Might help with compatibility

#

Try direct on mobo

native thistle
#

K

#

Still same thing

#

I have a msi mother board which has the bios flashback ( I believe it’s called) would that work any better?

native thistle
#

hey it seems that I didn’t take the actual file out of the folder. I just put the folder on the drive.It’s currently updating rn. Thanks for your concern!

little sky
#

I know you need to update the BIOS to the latest version for it to Support 5600x Ryzen CPU, on the website, it doesnt specify that I have to do it in order, so I assume I just do the qflash and have the latest version on the flash drive

neon void
#

yo if my mobo max and is 3600mhz ram I can get ram that is 3600mhz n it'll be fine right? also I've never seen c20 ram so that will also work right? Sorry if I sound stupid

native thistle
hollow thorn
#

What CPU?

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Which exact cpu

native thistle
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ryzen 7 2700x

hollow thorn
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2700x imc might not be able to hit 3466 1:1

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Try manually setting the ram to 3200mhz 16-18-18-38, secondary timings can be left auto

native thistle
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ok

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thx

native thistle
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@hollow thorn should I mess with the voltage?

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I don’t not much about voltage and stuff

hollow thorn
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could set dram to 1.35v

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the rest on auto will be fine for now

native thistle
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I exited the bios without messing with the voltage . It does appear as 3200 now. If you want I can go back and change the voltage.

grizzled bloom
hollow thorn
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without messing with voltage should be fine, afaik it'll auto to 1.35v anyways

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lemme think what benchmarks could be used

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uh

grizzled bloom
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Aida64

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Occt

hollow thorn
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occt has a benchmark?

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but ye aida64

grizzled bloom
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Sort of, you can see how many passes it does in a test

hollow thorn
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welp, aida64's cache test better

native thistle
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@hollow thorn I launched Valorant, it crashes around 5m after playing, btw I have 2 dif sets of ram in my pc, I believe they are the same speed and timing.

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Should I revert back to 2133?

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Other than that I get really good frames in Valorant

hollow thorn
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uh 2 different kits might be interesting

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can you check if they're the same freq and timings?

native thistle
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How should I check this?

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Oh nvm lmao

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Lemme check

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The one I sent you ends in 38

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The other ones I have is 36

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In total 4 sticks

hollow thorn
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yay fun

native thistle
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Is that a problem?

hollow thorn
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Probably not, but sometimes different kits don't like each other.. Valorant crashing is sad though

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Maybe try 3000mhz 16-18-18-38

native thistle
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I’ll try that, so happy to see it running well then it just crashes😀

native thistle
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Is this correct timing?

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300mhz seemed to fix the issue

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thanks

neon void
elfin warren
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lower is better

neon void
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oh

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I completely mixed up the two then

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Thanks

elfin warren
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YW

neon void
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so c16 + 3600mhz should be good for a ryzen 5 1600 + a mobo that goes up to 3600mhz ram speed

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?

grizzled bloom
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A 1600 will struggle to get that speed with the fclk synced

limber dragon
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1600 has no adjustable fclk

grizzled bloom
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True, I forgot auto is the only option for that series and the 2000

clear coral
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hi guys

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i have a i5 9400f paired with a 2070.

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Whenever im in a game and open browser at the same time, fps decreases greatly.

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is the i5 9400f that bad

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and is there anything i could do

elfin warren
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how much ram do you have

clear coral
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16

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1 stick

elfin warren
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Oh, that's why

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single channel mode

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Should have 2 sticks, dual channel

clear coral
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will it help in games like warzone to increase fps?

elfin warren
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Depends on resolution

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1080p, probably

clear coral
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1080o

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1080p

elfin warren
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Probably then, yes

clear coral
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thanks man

elfin warren
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yw

clear coral
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will try and grab another stick

elfin warren
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it's not a rocket ship but shouldn't be doing that

clear coral
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vernal cosmos
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It has a chance of not working with different models of ram used together

clear coral
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any idea how to know the exact model i have

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i remember there was a cmd command or somet

vernal cosmos
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Remove stick from pc and look at it

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shuld say model somewhere on it

clear coral
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ok great ty @vernal cosmos

dense frost
clear coral
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i already have it

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i opened theres a part number and serial number

dense frost
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k

vernal cosmos
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ill send you a link for what to buy

clear coral
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alright

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part number KHX2666C16/16G

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Serial number 0F38F1CD

vernal cosmos
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1 sec

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Ok so now download a program called cpuz

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and send a screenshot of the spd tab

clear coral
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i have it

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thats where the numbers are from

vernal cosmos
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Can you send me a screenshot?

clear coral
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private?

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or here

vernal cosmos
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anywhere is fine

clear coral
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there u go

vernal cosmos
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is that what ur ram stick looks like?

clear coral
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whats the 1333 mhz freq its showing

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yes

vernal cosmos
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You have xmp on right?

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in bios

clear coral
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on task manager it says 2666

vernal cosmos
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also what cpu did you say you have?

clear coral
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i5 9400f

vernal cosmos
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so you double the frequency cpuz tells you for ram speeds

clear coral
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so its running as it should?

vernal cosmos
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But the cas latency for the XMP profile is a lot lower

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so I recommend going into the bios and making sure XMP is on

clear coral
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alright man ill do it now

vernal cosmos
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thats the one you should get

dense frost
# clear coral whats the 1333 mhz freq its showing

what shows in cpuid is the actual frequency, its is labeled as 2666 because DDR stands for DUAL data rate, because data is being sent on the up and down of each cycle, effectively double the frequency

clear coral
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i turned xmp on

vernal cosmos
vernal cosmos
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the way ram works, 3200cl16 is better than 3400cl18

clear coral
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ik mine is 2666 c16 or somet

vernal cosmos
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so a reduction by 2 in the cas latency is big

vernal cosmos
clear coral
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So my frames will be better now ?

vernal cosmos
clear coral
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and do u still recommend me purchasing a new stick

vernal cosmos
vernal cosmos
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what mobo u got btw?

dense frost
clear coral
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its the asus prime b360m-k

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only has two places for ram

vernal cosmos
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Yeah

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buy the ram stick I linked

clear coral
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yea will do

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thanks for your help

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@vernal cosmos @dense frost

vernal cosmos
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np

dense frost
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its a pleasure

vast path
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Thinking of replacing the motherboard in my Dell Inspiron 530s. Where can I find out what the form factor is or what would be a good motherboard replacement. Thank you

dense frost
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use CPU-Z to find out the model of your motherboard and you can gro fromt here

vernal cosmos
vast path
vast path
vernal cosmos
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because with a new cpu and mobo u gonna need new ram

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and cpu cooling

vast path
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Ugh 🤦

vernal cosmos
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I would change the PSU as well since its very old

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and the case doesnt have airflow

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so would swap that out as well with a cpu that is gonna output more heat

dense frost
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its such an old system though... best get a new PC

vernal cosmos
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also the psu is a 250w model which is definitely not gonna support an upgrade

clear coral
unkempt ledge
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Any opinions on the b450 aurorus pro wifi with ryzen 7 3700x. Trying to get some info on it

hollow thorn
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what about it..?

vast meadow
dense frost
vernal cosmos
lavish aspen
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And aorus looks cool

vernal cosmos
lavish aspen
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Idk