#cpus-mobo-and-memory | Newegg | Page 173

dawn elk Jan 20, 2021, 7:38 AM

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Thanks for the help and recommendation!

hidden rampart Jan 20, 2021, 7:50 AM

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cringe

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depends on the purpose

limber dragon Jan 20, 2021, 7:50 AM

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its on a 5800x, why tf would you limit it to 1600IF?

hidden rampart Jan 20, 2021, 7:51 AM

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1600IF kekw

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also
16/(3200/2000)=10ns
18/(3600/2000)=10ns

limber dragon Jan 20, 2021, 7:51 AM

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so thanks fo proving my point?

hidden rampart Jan 20, 2021, 7:51 AM

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they would both perform identically in most tasks

hidden rampart Jan 20, 2021, 7:51 AM

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limber dragon so thanks fo proving my point?

what

limber dragon Jan 20, 2021, 7:52 AM

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if they're the same fIrSt WoRlD lAtEnCy then you get the faster kit for the higher IF

hidden rampart Jan 20, 2021, 7:53 AM

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sir did u read

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they don't have the same first word latency

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Cringe

naive pendant Jan 20, 2021, 10:06 AM

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Question, does the i5-4690k really only take 1 volt at stock??

limber dragon Jan 20, 2021, 10:11 AM

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probably

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most modern cpus are around 1-1.3v under load

naive pendant Jan 20, 2021, 10:25 AM

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Well uh

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I just found out that it actually takes 1.09 volts

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My motherboard was trying to give a 1.09 volt CPU 1.007 volts

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No wonder it wasn’t working

tall yoke Jan 20, 2021, 10:54 AM

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whats the highest ram speed i can get with a 10900k?

limber dragon Jan 20, 2021, 11:16 AM

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Daily probably around 4600 with the right motherboard

warm path Jan 20, 2021, 2:06 PM

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Does OEMs like Lenovo limit CPU support?

elfin warren Jan 20, 2021, 2:07 PM

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Sometimes, yes

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GPU's too

warm path Jan 20, 2021, 2:08 PM

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Damn

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How do they limit that cpu support tho?

elfin warren Jan 20, 2021, 2:08 PM

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BIOS

warm path Jan 20, 2021, 2:08 PM

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:/

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Ok

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Is Dell more strict with cpu support or Lenovo?

ruby laurel Jan 20, 2021, 2:46 PM

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lenovo much stricter

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dell dgaf keeeeek

devout mothBOT Jan 20, 2021, 3:31 PM

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basher1096#0874 has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

warm path Jan 20, 2021, 3:31 PM

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Aw man, chances of getting that i7-8700T in that PC is slim

ruby laurel Jan 20, 2021, 3:32 PM

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what pc

warm path Jan 20, 2021, 4:35 PM

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Lenovo ideacentre AIO 22-ICB

ruby laurel Jan 20, 2021, 4:47 PM

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rip lol

warm path Jan 20, 2021, 6:29 PM

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Why does Lenovo have to be a pain in terms of CPU support?

digital falcon Jan 20, 2021, 6:29 PM

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How is the Aorus X570 Ultra?

ruby laurel Jan 20, 2021, 6:33 PM

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warm path Why does Lenovo have to be a pain in terms of CPU support?

because dell good everyone else bad

lofty socket Jan 20, 2021, 7:09 PM

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need a recommendation on an x79 board for a build I'm doing using a xeon e5 2650v2

ruby laurel Jan 20, 2021, 7:10 PM

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lofty socket need a recommendation on an x79 board for a build I'm doing using a xeon e5 2650...

https://www.newegg.com/p/0ZK-08UH-0NP55

main pulsar Jan 20, 2021, 7:15 PM

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eww

ruby laurel Jan 20, 2021, 7:15 PM

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that company is meh

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allows for oc

main pulsar Jan 20, 2021, 7:15 PM

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no, its the price lol

ruby laurel Jan 20, 2021, 7:15 PM

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price is nuts but they can find on ali for cheaper

main pulsar Jan 20, 2021, 7:15 PM

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if you're gonna buy from china, then actually buy from china

ruby laurel Jan 20, 2021, 7:16 PM

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did u see their x99 board sassy

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looks like a ROG

main pulsar Jan 20, 2021, 7:16 PM

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https://www.ebay.com/itm/X79G-M-2-Motherboard-LGA-2011-DDR3-Mainboard-for-In-tel-Xeon-E5-Core-I7-CPU/174480160029

eBay

X79G M.2 Motherboard LGA 2011 DDR3 Mainboard for In-tel Xeon E5 Cor...

With M.2 interface, suitable for desktop computer for Core i7 for Xeon E5. Item Type: Mainboard. Supporting the full range of for LGA 2011 interface processors, the ideal choice for your work. CPU slot: for LGA 2011.

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just get something like that

warm path Jan 20, 2021, 7:16 PM

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ruby laurel because dell good everyone else bad

No wonder Lenovo dual heat pipe cooling can’t cool a 35w cpu under Prime95 test while a single pipe Dell cooler beats it by miles

ruby laurel Jan 20, 2021, 7:17 PM

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@main pulsar gamer

📎 AGKC_132184581532775052hdA5ytttGe.png

main pulsar Jan 20, 2021, 7:17 PM

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gamber

ruby laurel Jan 20, 2021, 7:17 PM

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looks like some rog board

main pulsar Jan 20, 2021, 7:17 PM

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looks like an asus prime imo

ruby laurel Jan 20, 2021, 7:17 PM

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yeah

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that was the one

lofty socket Jan 20, 2021, 7:18 PM

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that huananzhi board is really tryna rip people off on neweggs site when you can get a rampage formula iv for like 30 dollars cheaper

ruby laurel Jan 20, 2021, 7:19 PM

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new vs used

lofty socket Jan 20, 2021, 7:19 PM

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but its also asus vs brand I've never heard of

ruby laurel Jan 20, 2021, 7:20 PM

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theyre very common

main pulsar Jan 20, 2021, 7:20 PM

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2011-0 isnt worth investing in, get a cheapo chinese board

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ebay for 65 dollars

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cant beat that

ruby laurel Jan 20, 2021, 7:20 PM

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^^^^^^^^^^^^^

main pulsar Jan 20, 2021, 7:20 PM

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i assume you are using a 2650v2 because its cheap, so why drop 100+ on a motherboard

lofty socket Jan 20, 2021, 7:21 PM

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oh its because I got the 2650 v 2 for like

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10 dollars

main pulsar Jan 20, 2021, 7:21 PM

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exactly

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10 dollar chip on a 150 dollar board?

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cringe

ruby laurel Jan 20, 2021, 7:21 PM

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get this to ball tf out

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https://www.ebay.com/itm/ASUS-X79-DELUXE-LGA2011-ATX-32GB-Computer-Motherboard-W-I-O-Shield-TESTED/154299009290?epid=216000729&hash=item23ecf0090a:g:MA4AAOSwr9ZgB8ji

eBay

ASUS X79-DELUXE LGA2011 ATX 32GB Computer Motherboard W/ I/O Shield...

ASUS X79-DELUXE LGA2011 ATX 32GB Computer Motherboard #59133#. Condition is "Used". Shipped with USPS Priority Mail Small Flat Rate Box.

lofty socket Jan 20, 2021, 7:22 PM

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that's so goddy

main pulsar Jan 20, 2021, 7:22 PM

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lol

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thats quite the board

ruby laurel Jan 20, 2021, 7:22 PM

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i love that thing

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i want gold mobo now

lofty socket Jan 20, 2021, 7:22 PM

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I'd need that gold Z memory to go with it

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lmao

ruby laurel Jan 20, 2021, 7:22 PM

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u mean those ocz sticks?

lofty socket Jan 20, 2021, 7:22 PM

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yea

ruby laurel Jan 20, 2021, 7:22 PM

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love those

lofty socket Jan 20, 2021, 7:24 PM

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oh i see a gigabyte board for 60 dollars

digital falcon Jan 20, 2021, 7:47 PM

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How's the b550 f gaming?

hollow thorn Jan 20, 2021, 7:47 PM

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For?

main pulsar Jan 20, 2021, 7:47 PM

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expensive

digital falcon Jan 20, 2021, 7:48 PM

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For the ryzen 9 5900

ruby laurel Jan 20, 2021, 7:48 PM

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digital falcon How's the b550 f gaming?

its doing alright, thanks for asking

main pulsar Jan 20, 2021, 7:48 PM

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lol

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you already got your hands on a 5900x?

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i would try getting one purchased, before ordering anything else

digital falcon Jan 20, 2021, 7:49 PM

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Ye i got one

main pulsar Jan 20, 2021, 7:49 PM

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dope

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you need wifi?

digital falcon Jan 20, 2021, 7:50 PM

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Nope

main pulsar Jan 20, 2021, 7:50 PM

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https://www.newegg.com/gigabyte-b550-aorus-elite-v2/p/N82E16813145249

digital falcon Jan 20, 2021, 7:51 PM

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Ty

sonic scaffold Jan 20, 2021, 8:18 PM

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do you guys think that a Ryzen 5 2600 with an RTX 3060 ti will achieve 1440p 120+ fps?

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or should I upgrade my processor?

hollow thorn Jan 20, 2021, 8:22 PM

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Might get spikey

sonic scaffold Jan 20, 2021, 8:22 PM

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really?

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like frame jumps?

naive pendant Jan 20, 2021, 8:29 PM

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probably slight bottleneck but

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oh on 1440p

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yeah i doubt it

sonic scaffold Jan 20, 2021, 8:29 PM

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doubt what? good frames on 1440p?

naive pendant Jan 20, 2021, 8:33 PM

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120fps+

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not on that 2600

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i doubt it

sonic scaffold Jan 20, 2021, 8:34 PM

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darn..

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should I go for a 1440p 60hz monitor then?

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oh wrong channel

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I want higher resolution more than higher frames tbh

hollow thorn Jan 20, 2021, 8:35 PM

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I mean

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Still go for 1440p 144hz+ panel

sonic scaffold Jan 20, 2021, 8:35 PM

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just cap it on certain games I guess

hollow thorn Jan 20, 2021, 8:35 PM

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You just won't be able to keep 144fps+ stable on any demanding games

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Why cap it?

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Just g sync :p

sonic scaffold Jan 20, 2021, 8:36 PM

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oh yeah duh

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i'm new to high refresh rate

hollow thorn Jan 20, 2021, 8:36 PM

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G sync works from like 20-max refresh rate

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High refresh rate great

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It has spoiled me too much

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Now I hate gaming on iGPU laptop

jade bobcat Jan 20, 2021, 8:58 PM

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I have CL18 RAM right now, bought it recently on a really good sale, no issues and I like it. I'm making a new build in the next month or so and giving everything except my month old SSD and RAM to my wife for her build, and plan on using the same amount of RAM. I'm trying to save where I can, am I really going to notice a huge difference between CL16 and 18?

manic hull Jan 20, 2021, 9:01 PM

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not really, but having the same speed RAM with better cas latency will perform better.

nova hornet Jan 20, 2021, 9:02 PM

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depending on what brand the C18 ram is you might be able to tighten the timings up just fine too

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I'm using a 3600 c18 kit from team group at c16

jade bobcat Jan 20, 2021, 9:08 PM

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It's G.Skill 3600 2x16GB. I haven't had any issues but I'm upgrading from a pretty out-dated system (i5 6600k and 1050ti) and wanting to really boost things, but save where I can. I don't really think new RAM is necessary?

nova hornet Jan 20, 2021, 9:09 PM

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nah absolutely not, that ram should serve you fine

jade bobcat Jan 20, 2021, 9:09 PM

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Awesome, thank you.

fallen lynx Jan 20, 2021, 10:19 PM

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jade bobcat I have CL18 RAM right now, bought it recently on a really good sale, no issues a...

no, you won't notice a difference

river ledge Jan 21, 2021, 12:06 AM

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ruby laurel Jan 21, 2021, 12:07 AM

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that graph so uggy

cosmic horizon Jan 21, 2021, 1:01 AM

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I was wondering if anyone knows if this set of ram in particular would work on a AM4 chipset mobo? https://www.newegg.ca/g-skill-64gb-288-pin-ddr4-sdram/p/N82E16820374051?Item=N82E16820374051

hollow thorn Jan 21, 2021, 1:02 AM

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Depends on the board&cpu for actually reaching 4000mhz, especially on 1:1 mode

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otherwise ram is ram, nothing stopping you

cosmic horizon Jan 21, 2021, 1:03 AM

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So in all even if it specifies that it's an intel xmp ram it will still work on a amd mobo?

hollow thorn Jan 21, 2021, 1:04 AM

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I mean, "Intel xmp" only has Intel in the name because they developed the profile thing, it doesn't mean it's Intel only

cosmic horizon Jan 21, 2021, 1:04 AM

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ahh okay i just wanted to make sure thanks!

ruby laurel Jan 21, 2021, 1:04 AM

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hollow thorn I mean, "Intel xmp" only has Intel in the name because they developed the profil...

like how amd64 is a thing

hollow thorn Jan 21, 2021, 1:05 AM

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You're welcome, but keep in mind you may have trouble with xmp because of some chips not being to match the 2000mhz IF for 4000mt/s

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uncoupled, or downclocked to 3800mt/s or something will help if that becomes the issue.

cosmic horizon Jan 21, 2021, 1:06 AM

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hollow thorn uncoupled, or downclocked to 3800mt/s or something will help if that becomes the...

ram can be downclocked? just trying to understand this right here

hollow thorn Jan 21, 2021, 1:07 AM

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You can tell ram to be whatever frequency you want them to run, they'll be stable up to a point

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like b die kits rated for 3200 cl14 can usually do 3600 cl16 without a problem

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Downclocked as in just set a lower clock speed, you don't apply an offset

cosmic horizon Jan 21, 2021, 1:12 AM

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gotcha

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otherwise it sets it at a lower speed clock?

hollow thorn Jan 21, 2021, 1:20 AM

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Basically
If you don't touch anything, out of box, it will be at JEDEC defaults, something like 2133mhz cl15
If you enable XMP, it will be at whatever it says on the box (3200mhz, 3600mhz, 4000mhz, etc, along with the timings)
If you manually set frequency, it'll be whatever you set it to

sudden flax Jan 21, 2021, 1:37 AM

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Can anyone provide me with some help finding RAM suitable for my PC

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I have an Intel DP57DE motherboard. I need to know if I need 12800 or 10600 RAM and 204 or 240 pin

hollow thorn Jan 21, 2021, 1:43 AM

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@sudden flax You'll want 240pin 10666 ddr3 1333mhz ram

sudden flax Jan 21, 2021, 2:10 AM

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hollow thorn <@!508409353057992704> You'll want 240pin 10666 ddr3 1333mhz ram

Thank you sir

indigo vessel Jan 21, 2021, 4:32 AM

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naive pendant not on that 2600

u sure? 2600 isnt thaat bad

limber dragon Jan 21, 2021, 4:37 AM

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would depend on the game, overclock and ram, but 120+ fps should be doable on most games

smoky geode Jan 21, 2021, 4:56 AM

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is this the best mobo on the market https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/1543538-REG/gigabyte_x299x_aorus_xtreme_wf_x299x_aorus_xtreme_waterforce.html/?ap=y&ap=y&smp=y&smp=y&lsft=BI%3A514&gclid=CjwKCAiAxp-ABhALEiwAXm6IyZZlHsos8SIiDvVNmdwG5sP_Bvio1-0tQQuVhILcCkZQUqu6zIBuYhoCJZIQAvD_BwE

Gigabyte X299X AORUS XTREME WATERFORCE LGA 2066 XL-ATX Motherboard

Buy Gigabyte X299X AORUS XTREME WATERFORCE LGA 2066 XL-ATX Motherboard featuring XL-ATX Form Factor, Intel X299 Chipset, LGA 2066 Socket, 8 x Quad-Channel DDR4-4333 (OC), 8 x SATA III | 3 x M.2, 3 x PCIe 3.0 x16, 2 x Realtek ALC1220-VB 7.1-Channel Audio, Gigabit Ethernet LAN | 10GbE LAN, Wi-Fi 6 (802.11ax) | Bluetooth 5.0, NVIDIA SLI / AMD Cross...

manic hull Jan 21, 2021, 4:58 AM

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probably not

river ledge Jan 21, 2021, 5:04 AM

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📎 video0.mp4

naive pendant Jan 21, 2021, 5:11 AM

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indigo vessel u sure? 2600 isnt thaat bad

2600 is pretty bad

indigo vessel Jan 21, 2021, 5:12 AM

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yeah ig not great to pair with 3060 ti

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but ur using 2700 with 3080

main pulsar Jan 21, 2021, 5:13 AM

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2600 bad for current price

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well, if you're dumb enough to buy it new ig

indigo vessel Jan 21, 2021, 5:14 AM

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yeah ofc

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i wouldnt pay more than 150 for it

edgy willow Jan 21, 2021, 5:20 AM

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Could someone possibly help me with a wire

faint ferry Jan 21, 2021, 6:26 AM

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Does the 5800x have better gaming performance than the 5900x?

elfin warren Jan 21, 2021, 6:28 AM

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Higher base, but 100 mhz less boost

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5900x will edge it out slightly

desert nacelle Jan 21, 2021, 6:50 AM

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guys i have a b550 asus rog strix i currently have a 5600x

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can i upgrade to a 5900x

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later down the line

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will it be bad for my motherboard

elfin warren Jan 21, 2021, 6:52 AM

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Should be just fine

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As long as you're not massivle overclocking it

desert nacelle Jan 21, 2021, 6:59 AM

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offcourse not thanks

elfin warren Jan 21, 2021, 6:59 AM

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Welcome

naive pendant Jan 21, 2021, 7:37 AM

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indigo vessel but ur using 2700 with 3080

im on 1440p

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my 2700x easily beats 3600x

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not by much

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but its still a couple over in perf

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either way im upgrading

limber dragon Jan 21, 2021, 8:09 AM

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you mean a overclocked 2700x with high clocking ram vs a 3600x with jedec?

naive pendant Jan 21, 2021, 8:23 AM

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limber dragon you mean a overclocked 2700x with high clocking ram vs a 3600x with jedec?

when it was using high clocked ram yes

river ledge Jan 21, 2021, 8:24 AM

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I thought the r5 3600x was better then the 2700 but ok

naive pendant Jan 21, 2021, 8:24 AM

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it is

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2700x beats it if you get a decent silicon lottery via overclocking

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if you overclock both however

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3600x

limber dragon Jan 21, 2021, 8:25 AM

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if you give the 3600x the same ram as a 2700x, 3600x wins in every title

river ledge Jan 21, 2021, 8:25 AM

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naive pendant either way im upgrading

Forgot to say to intel 12th gen

naive pendant Jan 21, 2021, 8:27 AM

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plus i bought it in christmas 2018

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sooo 3600 wasnt even out

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169$ great deal

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idk why it was that cheap

vale oracle Jan 21, 2021, 9:53 AM

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Lads, new build time, what CPU should I get for 1080p gaming?

edgy willow Jan 21, 2021, 10:22 AM

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I dont a have gpu yet would that be why my mobo is give a 02 code?

digital falcon Jan 21, 2021, 10:33 AM

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What motherboard?

neon void Jan 21, 2021, 2:45 PM

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Is this motherboard any good?

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https://pcpartpicker.com/product/XQgzK8/asus-rog-strix-b450-f-gaming-atx-am4-motherboard-strix-b450-f-gaming

Asus ROG STRIX B450-F GAMING ATX AM4 Motherboard

elfin warren Jan 21, 2021, 2:47 PM

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Curious, what does the M-ATX not have that you need?

neon void Jan 21, 2021, 2:47 PM

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The micro ATX asrock B450M

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2 ram slots, no rgb headers ik we solved that but like...

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uh

elfin warren Jan 21, 2021, 2:48 PM

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Ok, that makes sense

neon void Jan 21, 2021, 2:48 PM

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looks better than my micro atx

elfin warren Jan 21, 2021, 2:48 PM

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what CPU?

neon void Jan 21, 2021, 2:48 PM

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Ryzen 5 1600

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I just gotta make sure it'll fit in my case

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I'm sure it will

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pc part picker found nothing wrong with it

elfin warren Jan 21, 2021, 2:49 PM

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If you have an ATX case, it'll fit

neon void Jan 21, 2021, 2:50 PM

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Alright

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yeah its an ATX

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Also this motherboard has more fan headers

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Its just overall bigger and has more of what I need

elfin warren Jan 21, 2021, 3:00 PM

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Ya, I get it

stark laurel Jan 21, 2021, 4:11 PM

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I GOT ONE

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5900X is on AMD Website Right now

tacit hemlock Jan 21, 2021, 4:19 PM

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Good job

vast granite Jan 21, 2021, 5:08 PM

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while idle does that seem good for stock or may have i messed up the cpu cooler install and maybe need to redo it with new paste

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limber dragon Jan 21, 2021, 6:05 PM

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Check load

cinder holly Jan 21, 2021, 6:06 PM

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Hello, my name is Ken Flucas. I am new here and new to discord. Please forgive me for not knowing how this works.

I have a question. Does the MSI Z490 GAMING EDGE WIFI LGA1200 INTEL MOTHERBOARD that I purchased on 6/19/2020 fully support the upcoming INTEL 11th gen TIGER LAKE CPU?

Thank you for your help.

elfin warren Jan 21, 2021, 6:06 PM

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It may need a BIOS update, we have to wait and see since the 11th gen isn't released yet. It should.

vivid pewter Jan 21, 2021, 7:16 PM

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Anyone happen to know what A4 chip is used in most school chromebooks ?

neon void Jan 21, 2021, 7:22 PM

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Hey, my power connector to the case is a 2 pin do you think its still compatible with this motherboard? https://pcpartpicker.com/product/XQgzK8/asus-rog-strix-b450-f-gaming-atx-am4-motherboard-strix-b450-f-gaming

Asus ROG STRIX B450-F GAMING ATX AM4 Motherboard

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And if it is where would I plug it in?

naive pendant Jan 21, 2021, 7:48 PM

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neon void Hey, my power connector to the case is a 2 pin do you think its still compatible...

thats standard for a motherboard

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bottom right

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look at a diagram to see which pins

drifting berry Jan 21, 2021, 7:52 PM

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i have an asus tuf x570, ryzen 7 3800x, 2070 super, and corsair ram any recommendations for the ASUS BIOS that i can improve perfromance

naive pendant Jan 21, 2021, 7:54 PM

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asus bios? wuuut

naive pendant Jan 21, 2021, 7:55 PM

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drifting berry i have an asus tuf x570, ryzen 7 3800x, 2070 super, and corsair ram any recommen...

you mean...OC profile for a card or cpu?

drifting berry Jan 21, 2021, 7:55 PM

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idk first time building

naive pendant Jan 21, 2021, 7:55 PM

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for a 3800x start with 4.2-4.3GHz in ryzen master

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~~though you can't download a oc profile so eh~~

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@stiff kraken whats max voltage for 3rd gen again ThinkingEgg

naive pendant Jan 21, 2021, 7:55 PM

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naive pendant for a 3800x start with 4.2-4.3GHz in ryzen master

oh right, ryzen master

drifting berry Jan 21, 2021, 7:56 PM

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im so confused

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so is it software

naive pendant Jan 21, 2021, 7:56 PM

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ok drag mouse to bottom left

drifting berry Jan 21, 2021, 7:56 PM

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or BIOS

naive pendant Jan 21, 2021, 7:56 PM

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click the yellow circle

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its called "google"

drifting berry Jan 21, 2021, 7:56 PM

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lamo

elfin warren Jan 21, 2021, 7:56 PM

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Just turn on PBO and forget it lol

naive pendant Jan 21, 2021, 7:56 PM

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what you are looking to improve perfomance is overclocking

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not "bios"

drifting berry Jan 21, 2021, 7:57 PM

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because i know that some settings are not configured correctly

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like intel xmp profile

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has to be turned on

elfin warren Jan 21, 2021, 7:57 PM

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In ASUS

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It's called DOCP

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SO turn that on as well as PBO

drifting berry Jan 21, 2021, 7:58 PM

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okay is that all i can do or is there other settings

hollow basin Jan 21, 2021, 8:09 PM

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man, getting my ram frequency and timings to stick for more than a few days seems kind of impossible

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always randomly resets to 1064.5 or whatever every like 10th time I go and check

cinder holly Jan 21, 2021, 8:10 PM

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@elfin warren ok thank you.

grave crest Jan 21, 2021, 8:47 PM

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Ram question, which would be better cl19 4400mhz or cl14/16 3600mhz

fickle iris Jan 21, 2021, 8:48 PM

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Depends on the cpu

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Also cl19 4400mhz will be tunable to the 3600mhz cl16/14 in most cases

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If you have the 9900k you should in theory be able to run the 4400mhz ram at that speed

grave crest Jan 21, 2021, 8:50 PM

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I already have 3600 cl16 rn but will be switching to a 5000 series ryzen

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So for say a 5900 or 5950

elfin warren Jan 21, 2021, 8:51 PM

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Just keep the 3600 and OC it a bit

digital falcon Jan 21, 2021, 8:56 PM

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What memory speed is good for the R9 5900x?

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And with B550 f gaming mobo

elfin warren Jan 21, 2021, 8:57 PM

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3800-4000

digital falcon Jan 21, 2021, 8:58 PM

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And what kind?

elfin warren Jan 21, 2021, 8:59 PM

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ballistix or Trident if you can

digital falcon Jan 21, 2021, 8:59 PM

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K ty

fickle iris Jan 21, 2021, 9:09 PM

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4000 can be hard to achieve sometimes

elfin warren Jan 21, 2021, 9:13 PM

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Ye

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Hopefully new AGESA fixes that though

dusty wedge Jan 21, 2021, 9:13 PM

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digital falcon What memory speed is good for the R9 5900x?

id recommend crucial over g skill

prime echo Jan 21, 2021, 9:22 PM

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When is the new AGESA coming out of beta? Thinkles

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any ideas?

clever flicker Jan 21, 2021, 10:22 PM

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I am looking at:https://www.newegg.ca/p/N82E16813299001?Item=9SIADGE75B2663 and https://www.newegg.ca/intel-celeron-g4930/p/N82E16819118080?Item=N82E16819118080are these compatiable?

hollow thorn Jan 21, 2021, 10:23 PM

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Doesn't look like it to me

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yea celeron g4930 is on lga1151v2

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only h310/b360/z390 etc

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@clever flicker If you already own the board and just want an upgrade or something, look around here
https://ark.intel.com/content/www/us/en/ark/products/90592/intel-b150-chipset.html

Intel® B150 Chipset Product Specifications

Intel® B150 Chipset quick reference guide including specifications, features, pricing, compatibility, design documentation, ordering codes, spec codes and more.

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and go to compatible products

clever flicker Jan 21, 2021, 10:25 PM

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hard to see i couldn't find anything on Newegg or basic research that would tell me

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what would i look for in specific?

hollow thorn Jan 21, 2021, 10:25 PM

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Intel ark is good resource

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Tells you what chipset is compatible with what chip and vice versa

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(for Intel that is)

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@clever flicker can you give me some background on the selection of parts?

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It's fairly old stuff so I assume you were trying to upgrade old hardware

elfin warren Jan 21, 2021, 10:26 PM

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Well, that's a mining motherboard so

hollow thorn Jan 21, 2021, 10:27 PM

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oh fun

clever flicker Jan 21, 2021, 10:27 PM

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Haha, I know how to piece a computer together, I just wanted a cheap MOBO and CPU, the rest I wanna use 3060 ti's for mining, just bought by the LGA 1151

hollow thorn Jan 21, 2021, 10:27 PM

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all I paid attention to was the chipset lel

clever flicker Jan 21, 2021, 10:27 PM

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So couldn't find much research on the B150 or w/e it says

hollow thorn Jan 21, 2021, 10:27 PM

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mining boards are fun

clever flicker Jan 21, 2021, 10:28 PM

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fantasic lol now I need to figure this stuff out, what would the cheapest CPU be haha

hollow thorn Jan 21, 2021, 10:28 PM

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Well, go to compatible products on this page and look them on newegg.ca and amazon.ca
https://ark.intel.com/content/www/us/en/ark/products/90592/intel-b150-chipset.html

Intel® B150 Chipset Product Specifications

Intel® B150 Chipset quick reference guide including specifications, features, pricing, compatibility, design documentation, ordering codes, spec codes and more.

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I'm guessing one of these

📎 unknown.png

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but they're pretty old, so one of the more 'powerful' chips might be cheaper

clever flicker Jan 21, 2021, 10:29 PM

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hmm

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ok well this makes sense why my mobo turns on, and then off lol

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I'll buy another mother board to match this CPU and another CPU to match the motherboard and I guess now I am forced to get another mining rig. "oh darn" as he says sarcasticially

hollow thorn Jan 21, 2021, 10:33 PM

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Well, you could return the cpu and get a new one?

clever flicker Jan 21, 2021, 10:33 PM

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All good, I was going to get another rig anyway

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Thank you for the help 🙂

hollow thorn Jan 21, 2021, 10:33 PM

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:)

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Good luck!

clever flicker Jan 21, 2021, 10:35 PM

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thank you!, Looks like i missed that one small but important detail. sheesh I honestly know what I'm doing... i think 😄

hollow thorn Jan 21, 2021, 10:36 PM

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Well blame Intel, they called it both lga1151, except half the boards support only half the chips, and the other half supported the rest

clever flicker Jan 21, 2021, 10:36 PM

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haha very true eh

hollow thorn Jan 21, 2021, 10:37 PM

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Intel ark good place to go if Intel confuses you more, compatible products section for any part

clever flicker Jan 21, 2021, 10:38 PM

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thank you - the more you know

pale mist Jan 21, 2021, 11:06 PM

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idk if yall know the song astronomia

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IE the coffin dance

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but this aliexpress listing legit rips it off lol

devout mothBOT Jan 21, 2021, 11:07 PM

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pale mist Jan 21, 2021, 11:07 PM

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wat

elfin warren Jan 21, 2021, 11:08 PM

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weird link with lots of letters and numbers

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Bot didn't like it

pale mist Jan 21, 2021, 11:08 PM

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well

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thats annoying

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it was a mobo listing with a video in it lol

safe elk Jan 22, 2021, 5:52 AM

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curious if anyone here can help. I have an I7-8700 on an Asus Z370-e gaming MOBO. I pulled the cpu from a prebuilt hp omen pc about a year ago and ever since my cpu temps will spike pretty high in certain games. after looking at the temps in afterburner I identified 2 cores that are running significantly hotter than the rest. Cores 3&4 will hit temps of 100c regularly in short burts whereas the rest of the cores never hit above the high 70's I have a Cooler master 212 CPU cooler with a relatively aggressive fan profile set, but i still hit high temps. Since it is a locked processor I have little control with trying to over/underclocking, but i do have a -.130 core voltage offset applied through INTEL XTU which I thought was helping for a while, but I'm again seeing high temps. If anyone could help me identify or remedy the problem I'd appreciate it greatly.

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edgy willow Jan 22, 2021, 6:05 AM

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I have a rog x570e everything but a gpu. It's give a 02 code

elfin warren Jan 22, 2021, 6:09 AM

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safe elk curious if anyone here can help. I have an I7-8700 on an Asus Z370-e gaming MOBO...

Use HWINFO64 for CPU temps

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MSI afterburner is more for GPU's

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If temps high in HWINFO64, repaste the cooler or replace it. The 212 is honestly kind of a bad cooler

loud escarp Jan 22, 2021, 8:43 AM

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can a ryzen 5 3600 handle vr or would i have to switch to like a 8 cor like the 3700x

manic hull Jan 22, 2021, 8:47 AM

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loud escarp can a ryzen 5 3600 handle vr or would i have to switch to like a 8 cor like the ...

3600 will handle VR, what matters is your GPU. What GPU do you have?

loud escarp Jan 22, 2021, 8:57 AM

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sapphire 5700 xt

manic hull Jan 22, 2021, 9:55 AM

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That’ll work.

jagged remnant Jan 22, 2021, 12:42 PM

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Hello everyone, would to get some suggestion which PSU with 8pin 12v cable for cpu power connector

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Or can i use 4pin to 8pin adapter with an existing psu?

hollow thorn Jan 22, 2021, 3:07 PM

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@safe elk that's likely just because of Intel being dumb and having to put thermal paste under the ihs, so heat dispersion from core to core varied and it was just a sucky time for every chip before 10th gen

slate phoenix Jan 22, 2021, 4:17 PM

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is the i5 6400 good

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well i might have gotten the name wrong its a Intel i5 with 4 cores at 2.7 ghz

eager shore Jan 22, 2021, 4:19 PM

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good for what

long geyser Jan 22, 2021, 4:19 PM

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it'll work for budget systems, but it's still about equal to the second lowest end modern CPU

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so in comparison to the modern product stack, it's pretty terrible.
Either way, still need to know the use case of the CPU

slate phoenix Jan 22, 2021, 4:21 PM

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like for EXTREME budget gaming

eager shore Jan 22, 2021, 4:22 PM

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extreme budget gaimg

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how extreme, i might ask

slate phoenix Jan 22, 2021, 4:23 PM

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yea REALLY EXTREME

long geyser Jan 22, 2021, 4:23 PM

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I'd try to get a newer CPU. Intel CPUs basically dont have price differences between generations

slate phoenix Jan 22, 2021, 4:23 PM

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Already have so...

long geyser Jan 22, 2021, 4:23 PM

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used 8100 or something

eager shore Jan 22, 2021, 4:23 PM

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is it like sum office pc you're trying to flip

slate phoenix Jan 22, 2021, 4:23 PM

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yep

eager shore Jan 22, 2021, 4:24 PM

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i see

long geyser Jan 22, 2021, 4:25 PM

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For GPU, I wouldnt go more then a 480/580 or 1060/1650S

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otherwise it'll work as a budget system

elfin warren Jan 22, 2021, 4:25 PM

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The office PC won't support that Hei

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240 W PSU

eager shore Jan 22, 2021, 4:25 PM

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it depends on other factors as well

slate phoenix Jan 22, 2021, 4:25 PM

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Have a 240w psu so probably going with a used 1050 ti

long geyser Jan 22, 2021, 4:25 PM

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elfin warren 240 W PSU

ye, there is that I guess

slate phoenix Jan 22, 2021, 4:26 PM

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thx guys this is great!

eager shore Jan 22, 2021, 4:27 PM

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do some more research on your system

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and check if the psu you have has the connectors it needs or if you are using none, check if the motherboard can handle sum like a 75w power draw

elfin warren Jan 22, 2021, 4:28 PM

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It'll handle slot power only

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There are no GPU connectors

slate phoenix Jan 22, 2021, 4:42 PM

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ok cool

lilac pawn Jan 22, 2021, 5:05 PM

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Able to grab that 5800x from best buy today!

eager shore Jan 22, 2021, 5:06 PM

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😳

rotund hull Jan 22, 2021, 5:23 PM

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Hey guys got an amateur ram question... I'm looking to add 32 gb of ram to my comp because SC is extremely ram intensive/ poorly optimized... anywho... I've got 16gb in it now on 2 8gb sticks... I have 4 dimm slots... do I move the 8gb sticks to the secondary channels or do I just add the 16gb sticks to the secondary channels?

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Or does it even matter?

manic hull Jan 22, 2021, 5:27 PM

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just add them, doesnt matter

rotund hull Jan 22, 2021, 5:28 PM

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Sweet thanks

jade bobcat Jan 22, 2021, 5:29 PM

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R7 3700x vs 5600x? Sounds like the 5600x is impossible to find but the 3700x is sitting right in from of me at microcenter at the same price.

elfin warren Jan 22, 2021, 5:30 PM

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5600x has faster single core

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3700x has faster multicore because more cores

jade bobcat Jan 22, 2021, 5:33 PM

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Okay. I'm going to get the R7 then. Just easier to find.

elfin warren Jan 22, 2021, 5:33 PM

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I have 3700x/3070 and it 's honestly great

limber dragon Jan 22, 2021, 5:35 PM

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elfin warren 3700x has faster multicore because more cores

Should be about equal in mt, 30% more cores vs 20% ipc + 10% clock speed

manic hull Jan 22, 2021, 5:38 PM

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they are closer with those improvements but the 3700x is still better at mt

elfin warren Jan 22, 2021, 5:38 PM

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Yeah, in benchmarks the 3700x is slightly ahead in MT

jade bobcat Jan 22, 2021, 5:47 PM

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Perfect. Thanks guys. For the same price more cores and threads seems great

lone oar Jan 22, 2021, 7:22 PM

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Does anyone know any good overclocking motherboards for under 100 bucks?

manic hull Jan 22, 2021, 7:22 PM

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What CPU do you have?

lone oar Jan 22, 2021, 7:23 PM

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Im thinking of getting the Ryzen 3 3100

elfin warren Jan 22, 2021, 7:23 PM

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Any AMD board except A320 can OC

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B450/550/x570 etc

lone oar Jan 22, 2021, 7:23 PM

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well yeah

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but any motherboards that are better

elfin warren Jan 22, 2021, 7:24 PM

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For that processor? Doesn't really matter

lone oar Jan 22, 2021, 7:24 PM

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yeah it doies

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for OCing

eager shore Jan 22, 2021, 7:24 PM

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isn't a 3100 defective silicon or sum

lone oar Jan 22, 2021, 7:24 PM

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huh

elfin warren Jan 22, 2021, 7:24 PM

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SIgh. Not for that low power processor. If it was something higher end, then you'd need to consider VRM's, etc

lone oar Jan 22, 2021, 7:24 PM

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elfin warren SIgh. Not for that low power processor. If it was something higher end, then y...

for OCing?

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like pbo

elfin warren Jan 22, 2021, 7:25 PM

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B450/550/x570 all have PBO

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A320 doesn't

lone oar Jan 22, 2021, 7:25 PM

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so youre sure that it doesnt matter?

manic hull Jan 22, 2021, 7:25 PM

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it doesnt

lone oar Jan 22, 2021, 7:26 PM

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alr

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wtf mobos have gotten expensive

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the cheapest b550 is 90 bucks

eager shore Jan 22, 2021, 7:28 PM

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yeah under 100 bucks, you don't really get much

lone oar Jan 22, 2021, 7:28 PM

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there used to be ok 70-80 dollar ones

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whatever

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still under 100

eager shore Jan 22, 2021, 7:29 PM

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well there are ok 70-80 dollar b450 mobo's on the market

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such as the b540 aorus m

lone oar Jan 22, 2021, 7:31 PM

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https://www.newegg.com/asrock-b550m-phantom-gaming-4/p/N82E16813157966?Item=N82E16813157966&nm_mc=AFC-RAN-COM&cm_mmc=AFC-RAN-COM&utm_medium=affiliates&utm_source=afc-PCPartPicker&AFFID=2558510&AFFNAME=PCPartPicker&ACRID=1&ASID=https%3A%2F%2Fpcpartpicker.com%2Fproduct%2FTG9tt6%2Fasrock-b550m-phantom-gaming-4-micro-atx-am4-motherboard-b550m-phantom-gaming-4&ranMID=44583&ranEAID=2558510&ranSiteID=8BacdVP0GFs-0tooRQuUe3zMjOfxguEjPQ is this better than the b450 aorus m?

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@eager shore

eager shore Jan 22, 2021, 7:36 PM

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well it's on the b550 chipset, so that's a plus, lemme compare them rq

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the aorus m has more usb ports, more audio ports, m.2 heatsink (doesn't really matter), the phantom gaming has 2 m.2 slots and more sata ports, they both have the same number of usb headers, phantom gaming has more fan headers, the aorus m has detectors that can help you if sum is overheating or if a fan is failing, and that's all that a person with a 3100 would care about tbh

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it's up to you to choose which one fits your needs

median lance Jan 22, 2021, 7:49 PM

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Does anyone know of top notch ram for a 5900x? I’m using the aorus x570 master. I had to return my last kit as it was defective and my return was just processed.

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Preferably 32gb or 64gb

limber dragon Jan 22, 2021, 7:49 PM

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https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1Xz_rQgNFQF3Dm0yHJBzldVkal5jmfI9Ug9tnpjky5Bc/edit#gid=0 if the xmp matches, then its good

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XMP Rating,Speed,Cas Lat,RCD,Voltage,XMP CL,XMP RCD,1.35v,1.4v,1.45v,1.5v,1.55v,1.6v,1.35v,1.4v,1.45v,1.5v,1.55v
3200 14-14-14 1.35 *,3200,14,14,1.35,8.75,8.75,8.75,8.44,8.15,7.88,7.62,7.38,8.75,8.44,8.15,7.88,7.62
3600 14-15-15 1.4 (EOL),3600,14,...

median lance Jan 22, 2021, 7:55 PM

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The 3600 16-16-16-36 kit is the one I had previously would you recommend getting it and trying again? 14-15 seem out of stock @limber dragon

quaint geyser Jan 22, 2021, 8:08 PM

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when you're putting in ram how do you know what slots are 2 and 4

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there aren't numbers

eager shore Jan 22, 2021, 8:08 PM

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i think it's from left to right

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or check your manual

elfin warren Jan 22, 2021, 8:12 PM

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There should be

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A1/A2

nova hornet Jan 22, 2021, 8:12 PM

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the basic rule of thumb is that you populate every other slot, starting with the slot furthest from the board

elfin warren Jan 22, 2021, 8:12 PM

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B1/B2

nova hornet Jan 22, 2021, 8:12 PM

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assuming there's 4 on one side

limber dragon Jan 22, 2021, 8:15 PM

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median lance The 3600 16-16-16-36 kit is the one I had previously would you recommend getting...

yeah, if you want to enable xmp and go

calm drum Jan 22, 2021, 8:18 PM

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is the i5 10400 better than the r5 3600

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I’ve heard people say with the right ram and motherboard it gets marginally higher FPS but idk if that’s true

elfin warren Jan 22, 2021, 8:20 PM

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It does get marginally higher FPS

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But like, 4-5 FPS

eager shore Jan 22, 2021, 8:21 PM

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it is significally cheaper than a 3600 as well

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but then to get the big ram speeds, you'll need a z series chipset and well, it evens off right there

elfin warren Jan 22, 2021, 8:22 PM

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Don't need big ram speeds

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just 3200 mhz

calm drum Jan 22, 2021, 8:23 PM

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If it’s cheaper for the same and slightly better performance, why are people still recommending the 3600 over the 10400?

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I guess just for the overclock

elfin warren Jan 22, 2021, 8:23 PM

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Because AMD fans

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nothing more or less

hollow thorn Jan 22, 2021, 8:24 PM

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It's for no real reason, just out of date information and fanboy

eager shore Jan 22, 2021, 8:24 PM

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i am amd fanboy

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except when it comes to lower tier gaming

hollow thorn Jan 22, 2021, 8:24 PM

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3600 used to be the performance per dollar king

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So people latch on to that

calm drum Jan 22, 2021, 8:24 PM

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I see I see

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I was like so close to getting a new motherboard and the 3600 until I did some research and found the 10400 was a cheaper and better bang for buck

eager shore Jan 22, 2021, 8:26 PM

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that happened with the tomahawk as well, people latched on to the tomahawk b450 and forgot about other motherboards smh

calm drum Jan 22, 2021, 8:26 PM

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Is the MSI Z490-A PRO a good pair? It’s the cheapest z490 motherboard I’ve found

river ledge Jan 22, 2021, 8:53 PM

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quaint geyser Jan 22, 2021, 10:44 PM

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is RAM cpu specific

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cuz the one I just got says it supports intel

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and I have amd

median lance Jan 22, 2021, 10:45 PM

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Check the qvl

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On the mobo website or memory manufacturers website

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should be listed under the support section

quaint geyser Jan 22, 2021, 10:46 PM

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ok

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what is the qvl

median lance Jan 22, 2021, 10:46 PM

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Qualified Vendor List

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Should just be listed as Qvl on either website

quaint geyser Jan 22, 2021, 10:46 PM

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ok

median lance Jan 22, 2021, 10:46 PM

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It will show if your memory is compatible with your motherboard

quaint geyser Jan 22, 2021, 11:00 PM

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what chipset is the MSI tomahawk b450 max

hollow thorn Jan 22, 2021, 11:00 PM

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Btw, there's no Intel or amd only ram

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"Intel xmp" only has Intel in the name because they came up with the idea of ram profiles

quaint geyser Jan 22, 2021, 11:01 PM

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ah

hollow thorn Jan 22, 2021, 11:01 PM

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B450 is the chipset

quaint geyser Jan 22, 2021, 11:01 PM

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ok

hollow thorn Jan 22, 2021, 11:01 PM

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Qvl also don't have all the kits of ram in the world

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Only what the manufacturer bothered to test

quaint geyser Jan 22, 2021, 11:01 PM

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the b450 isnt on the qvl of my ram, will it still work

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ohh

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so if it isnt on the qvl it will likely still work?

hollow thorn Jan 22, 2021, 11:02 PM

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Yes

quaint geyser Jan 22, 2021, 11:02 PM

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ok

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whatll happen if it simply dosnet work

hollow thorn Jan 22, 2021, 11:02 PM

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As long as like the basics, like ddr4 ram for a ddr4 board, that kind of thing matches up

quaint geyser Jan 22, 2021, 11:03 PM

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ok yeah it it

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is*

hollow thorn Jan 22, 2021, 11:03 PM

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Uh, it doesn't boot

quaint geyser Jan 22, 2021, 11:03 PM

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makes sense

hollow thorn Jan 22, 2021, 11:03 PM

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But there's a ton of different factors to not booting

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Most sticks are compatible with most boards anyways

quaint geyser Jan 22, 2021, 11:03 PM

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my pcpart picker list didnt show that there was a problem so will it likely work?

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ok

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ty for the help!

hollow thorn Jan 22, 2021, 11:04 PM

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:)

quartz vortex Jan 23, 2021, 1:28 AM

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Built new PC, having an issue with no video and mouse/keyboard won't work. Have a Intel Core i9-10900 Comet Lake 10-Core 2.8 GHz LGA 1200 65W processor and a Gigabyte Z490 Vison G LGA 1200 Intel Motherboard. Used Qflash to take it to revision 20, didn't work, same issue. Also tried revisoin 8 to see if that helped and still have the same issue. Everything lights up like the pc should start. USB mouse and keyboard do NOT have power but the water cooler fans work normally and the front case fans also work properly too. POST lights work but do not display any error. Tried running PC outside of case as well to no avail. Please help. Also lights and fans on the video card are working.

manic hull Jan 23, 2021, 1:59 AM

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Remove the GPU and plug the display cable into the motherboard to see if it posts

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@quartz vortex

quartz vortex Jan 23, 2021, 2:33 AM

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@a real human - Thanks for the suggestion. i will try that and let you know.

rich musk Jan 23, 2021, 2:36 AM

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I had a screw from my motherboard fell into its vrm and I can’t get it out and I’m really worried about it

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If anyone can help me please do

manic hull Jan 23, 2021, 2:36 AM

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tooth pick or magnetic tipped screw driver

rich musk Jan 23, 2021, 2:36 AM

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I can’t see it though and don’t want to damage it

limber dragon Jan 23, 2021, 2:37 AM

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turn your mobo upside down and shake

manic hull Jan 23, 2021, 2:38 AM

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as long as you arent digging it into the mobo it is fine, all the of traces has some level of protection. make sure it doesnt have power though

rich musk Jan 23, 2021, 2:40 AM

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I’ve been shaking it and nothing has come out and I can’t see it with a flash light

manic hull Jan 23, 2021, 2:43 AM

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are you sure that it is in the mobo? it didnt fall else where?

rich musk Jan 23, 2021, 2:55 AM

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I think it might’ve actually fallen out because I looked and shook all through it and couldn’t find it or hear it

static rock Jan 23, 2021, 2:58 AM

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Is the 3100 still an ok cpu

bold sky Jan 23, 2021, 3:00 AM

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depends on what you want to do with the pc tbh

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like for esports games it should be more then enough but if you want to run anno it will probably struggle

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I think if you pear it with like a 1050ti or something similar it would run games fine like I have a kaby lake i5 which tbh is probably weaker then that thing because it's a laptop and as long you don't overload the cpu like game runs fine just don't expect like 144 fps lmao

static rock Jan 23, 2021, 3:10 AM

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Yeah im not expecting too much out of it. Im pairing it with like a 3060 or 2070 or something around there. I think medium level games should run fine, right?

bold sky Jan 23, 2021, 3:11 AM

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they should do tbh most games are more gpu then cpu

static rock Jan 23, 2021, 3:12 AM

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ok thx

bold sky Jan 23, 2021, 3:14 AM

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you can run hardware encoding on obs if you want to record or stream anyway so I think you should be fine not everyone one need like 6 cores 12 threads or can afford that so yeah

river ledge Jan 23, 2021, 5:35 AM

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lime quartz Jan 23, 2021, 5:38 AM

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pepeThinking

stark laurel Jan 23, 2021, 7:26 AM

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For anybody who has ordered a new processor from the AMD website and saw their order as "order in process", how long was the order status listed as "order in process"

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because for two days straight now my order status has been listed as " order in process" and I'm wondering how long I should expect to wait

naive pendant Jan 23, 2021, 7:33 AM

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couple more days

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you're not gonna instantly get it just because you ordered it

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you should be getting it within a week

stark laurel Jan 23, 2021, 7:42 AM

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ok thank you, very excited to get my new CPU!

rich musk Jan 23, 2021, 8:17 AM

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Okay so would a screw make any clinking noise if it was stuck in the vrm of a motherboard because (I know I brought this up earlier but I am worried since this is my first build) when I was looking for it I didn’t hear it rattling around and didn’t see it when I shined a light in there

deft inlet Jan 23, 2021, 8:39 AM

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stark laurel ok thank you, very excited to get my new CPU!

i got mine on b and h

median talon Jan 23, 2021, 6:40 PM

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should i get a 3700x or 5600x? its gonna paired with a 3070

hollow thorn Jan 23, 2021, 6:40 PM

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For what workload

median talon Jan 23, 2021, 6:41 PM

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for gaming and some designing and stuff

hollow thorn Jan 23, 2021, 6:42 PM

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Gaming, 5600x better, for video editing/cad, 3700x likely better

elfin warren Jan 23, 2021, 6:43 PM

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Ye, 3700x multicore still pulls slightly ahead

magic cedar Jan 23, 2021, 6:43 PM

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bc more cores

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lol

elfin warren Jan 23, 2021, 6:43 PM

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It's not by much though

magic cedar Jan 23, 2021, 6:43 PM

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would still recommend 5600x

median talon Jan 23, 2021, 6:43 PM

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Okay ill be going with the 3700x

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thank you

magic cedar Jan 23, 2021, 6:44 PM

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wait huh

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i thought u were gaming? @median talon

median talon Jan 23, 2021, 6:44 PM

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and CAD designing

magic cedar Jan 23, 2021, 6:44 PM

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oh then yea 3700x

pallid bloom Jan 23, 2021, 11:23 PM

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newbie here -- wanted to see if anyone can help me with picking the right RAM for my motherboard.

limber dragon Jan 23, 2021, 11:24 PM

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what cpu?

pallid bloom Jan 23, 2021, 11:26 PM

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intel core i7 4770k ||

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https://www.newegg.com/p/N82E16813131979?Item=N82E16813131979 this motherboard

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old build but still doing me justice lol

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i have gskill 16gb wanted to upgrade to 32 or higher if my MOBO can handle it

ruby laurel Jan 23, 2021, 11:28 PM

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ddr3 will be ok

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https://www.ebay.com/itm/G-Skill-RipjawsX-32GB-4X8GB-F3-2133C10Q-32GXM-DDR3-2133MHz/313392701561

eBay

G.Skill RipjawsX 32GB (4X8GB) F3-2133C10Q-32GXM DDR3-2133MHz

32GB (8GBx4). Fan Included. Error Checking.

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this is good

pallid bloom Jan 23, 2021, 11:29 PM

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newbie i have no idea what that means sorry. my tower was built from a friend in 2014

ruby laurel Jan 23, 2021, 11:29 PM

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this is the best ram you can get

pallid bloom Jan 23, 2021, 11:29 PM

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ahhh ok

ruby laurel Jan 23, 2021, 11:29 PM

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grab it

pallid bloom Jan 23, 2021, 11:29 PM

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32gb the max i can have coo

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im going to try to find NEW.

ruby laurel Jan 23, 2021, 11:30 PM

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impossible

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give up rn

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lol

pallid bloom Jan 23, 2021, 11:30 PM

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dammit haha

ruby laurel Jan 23, 2021, 11:30 PM

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used ram literally means nothing either

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as long as it passes memtest ur good

pallid bloom Jan 23, 2021, 11:31 PM

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https://www.newegg.com/g-skill-32gb-240-pin-ddr3-sdram/p/N82E16820231569?Item=n82e16820231569&Tpk=n82e16820231569

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not good?

limber dragon Jan 23, 2021, 11:31 PM

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search ebay for the same kit, its probably like $50

hollow thorn Jan 23, 2021, 11:31 PM

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Slower

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And yea you'll find much better prices used

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Afterall, ddr3 is like 5 years out of date

pallid bloom Jan 23, 2021, 11:32 PM

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thank you for the help guys ok im going to buy the one you sent me lili

ruby laurel Jan 23, 2021, 11:33 PM

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❤️

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2133mhz ddr3 is nuts tbh

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if ur lucky you can oc to 2800 on that board

pallid bloom Jan 23, 2021, 11:34 PM

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my computer does me good no problem i run current games and design without a problem so before i kick to buy new tower imma use this as much as i can

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i did have to swap gfx cards at one point it went out gtx 1080 now

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again thank you all for the help

ruby laurel Jan 23, 2021, 11:40 PM

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np :))

lofty socket Jan 24, 2021, 1:47 AM

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does anyone know where to get just like a bag of black motherboard standoffs

wicked saffron Jan 24, 2021, 3:47 AM

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hi

naive pendant Jan 24, 2021, 5:11 AM

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lofty socket does anyone know where to get just like a bag of black motherboard standoffs

Does it really have to be black?

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https://www.amazon.com/dp/B08NDJC524/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_fabc_7fqdGbSQVRX6S?_encoding=UTF8&psc=1

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Swagged out standoffs you'll never see

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Standoffs aren't standardized so you might run into issues depending on the case

hard fjord Jan 24, 2021, 5:35 AM

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Hey

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If a b350 mobo (specifically msi b350m gaming pro) says that’s its 2000 series desktop ready

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Will it work if I put a 2600x in it?

elfin warren Jan 24, 2021, 5:36 AM

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Yes

neon void Jan 24, 2021, 5:37 AM

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Hey, is it normal for my computer to say "sorry your computer ran into some problems collecting info" then restart?

split copper Jan 24, 2021, 5:38 AM

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Mhm

neon void Jan 24, 2021, 5:39 AM

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Ok

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Its an AMD

split copper Jan 24, 2021, 5:39 AM

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Wondews is designed to do that to avoid substantial damage to data

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And you should be able to find info about what caused it in Event Viewer I think?

naive pendant Jan 24, 2021, 5:41 AM

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CMD or Powershell in Administrator mode "sfc /scannow" to find and fix any corrupted files

split copper Jan 24, 2021, 5:41 AM

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I've used a BSOD program that retrieves the actual bluescreen information as well

neon void Jan 24, 2021, 5:41 AM

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Alright thank you.

nova hornet Jan 24, 2021, 7:14 AM

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are new ryzens still hard to get?

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I see a couple posts near me on fb marketplace selling cpus for about msrp and it makes me tempted

naive pendant Jan 24, 2021, 7:58 AM

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Anyone got any b550 motherboards they would recommend under $150 (amd socket)

naive pendant Jan 24, 2021, 9:15 AM

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All B550 are AMD 😕?

steel panther Jan 24, 2021, 10:39 AM

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@naive pendant yos

naive pendant Jan 24, 2021, 10:40 AM

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steel panther <@456226577798135808> yos

I know that. My message was the other way around.

steel panther Jan 24, 2021, 10:40 AM

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oh well im dumb

naive pendant Jan 24, 2021, 10:43 AM

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steel panther oh well im dumb

No you're not. It's easy to see my message the way you saw it. It's my fault.

steel panther Jan 24, 2021, 10:43 AM

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well ty :))

sour musk Jan 24, 2021, 4:54 PM

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do i have a bad mobo if my peripherals not lighting up or my ethernet

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and when i turn my pc on it turns off

elfin warren Jan 24, 2021, 4:55 PM

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Or a bad power supply if it's not POSTing

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Error/debug LED's?

sour musk Jan 24, 2021, 4:56 PM

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my mobo lights up orange for a second then it turns off

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and my mouse/keyboard and my ethernet dont turn on

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i have a gigabyte b365m ds3h

elfin warren Jan 24, 2021, 4:58 PM

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ccpu?

sour musk Jan 24, 2021, 4:59 PM

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i3 9100f

elfin warren Jan 24, 2021, 5:00 PM

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Should work. Double check all your power connections and your ram placement.

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make sure the CPU cooler is plugged into the CPU_FAN header

sour musk Jan 24, 2021, 5:01 PM

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it is

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the keybaord and mouse arnt reciving power but the gpu is

elfin warren Jan 24, 2021, 5:03 PM

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Well that's because the system isn't POSTing

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Cpu isn't booting

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Usually a power issue

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Something isn't hooked up right

sour musk Jan 24, 2021, 5:04 PM

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ok i will check

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brbr

naive pendant Jan 24, 2021, 5:08 PM

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Try to reseat your RAM

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Where does the orange light up on? Which printed label

sour musk Jan 24, 2021, 5:20 PM

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it on the bottom left

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the orang light

elfin warren Jan 24, 2021, 5:21 PM

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Oh, that's just the onboard RGB

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THe little strip lights

sour musk Jan 24, 2021, 5:21 PM

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oh

elfin warren Jan 24, 2021, 5:21 PM

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The error LED"s will be up by the ram

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I think?

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Lemme grab a manual

sour musk Jan 24, 2021, 5:22 PM

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ok

elfin warren Jan 24, 2021, 5:23 PM

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Oh dear, doesn't look like that board has error LED"s at all

sour musk Jan 24, 2021, 5:23 PM

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:(((((((

elfin warren Jan 24, 2021, 5:24 PM

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Without something like this, a little speaker, it's impossible to say what the error is

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https://www.amazon.com/Motherboard-Speaker-Desktop-Computer-Internal/dp/B079DKDSJ9/ref=sr_1_4?dchild=1&keywords=Motherboard+Speaker&qid=1611509050&sr=8-4

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NO LED's and no POST codes means it could be anything

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CPU, RAM, VGA, etc

sour musk Jan 24, 2021, 5:27 PM

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oof well im screwed

proven sparrow Jan 24, 2021, 5:28 PM

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I NEED RYZEN THREDREPER 3600

elfin warren Jan 24, 2021, 5:29 PM

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There isn't one?

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Not really screwed

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Amazon prime those speakers

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Plug it in so we get a beep POST code

sour musk Jan 24, 2021, 5:31 PM

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ok

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how does it work the speakers

elfin warren Jan 24, 2021, 5:34 PM

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It goes on the front panel header connector

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It will give a series of beeps that will say what the issue is

sour musk Jan 24, 2021, 5:34 PM

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oh ok

elfin warren Jan 24, 2021, 5:34 PM

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One single beep is good, means things are working

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You can remove it after everything is working

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Don't have to leave it in

sour musk Jan 24, 2021, 5:34 PM

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so does it tell you a issue

elfin warren Jan 24, 2021, 5:34 PM

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Yes

sour musk Jan 24, 2021, 5:35 PM

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like if its ram

elfin warren Jan 24, 2021, 5:35 PM

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Yes

sour musk Jan 24, 2021, 5:35 PM

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or somthing

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oh ok thats cool

fringe spade Jan 24, 2021, 5:39 PM

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Any ideas when theAMD Ryzen 9 5900x will be available?

naive pendant Jan 24, 2021, 5:41 PM

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Fixitfixitfixit Discord Server is great for live stock updates

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Mute everything else and set to notify all on CPU channel

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5800X is your best chance most of the time as it's the least desirable, but still try to snag a 5900X instead.

atomic pasture Jan 24, 2021, 7:10 PM

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Hey, im looking to buy a Amd ryzen 5 3400, and I've benn watching its price. is there any reason I shouldn't get a 3600? Because I found one for $200 so its actaully cheaper. Idk I would love some feedback! (the 3400 is 254.34)

ruby laurel Jan 24, 2021, 7:11 PM

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i5 10400

hollow thorn Jan 24, 2021, 7:24 PM

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@atomic pasture yea I'd suggest you just go 10400 right now

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3600 and 3400g both overpriced as hell

atomic pasture Jan 24, 2021, 7:25 PM

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how much does it cost?

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im looking for about 200

hollow thorn Jan 24, 2021, 7:39 PM

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10400 is like 160usd

rapid thunder Jan 24, 2021, 7:41 PM

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So, I rebuilt my Rig around Thanksgiving last year and I love it. I got an RX 580 as a stopgap GPU and though I look forward to getting a more powerful card in future it is still a big step up from my GTX 950 that I had before.

However, I found out recently that I built the thing with the memory in single channel mode. I knew about single and dual channel at the time of construction, but the MOBO manual didn't exactly make clear to me what the difference between the A1, A2, B1, and B4 RAM slots was and I just put both of my 8 GB sticks in A1 and A2.

Yesterday I tried moving one stick from A2 to B1 figuring that's how I'd put the RAM into dual channel mode. Instead the machine refused to boot and refused to post to BIOS. I also tried booting with just a single stick installed. The machine went into a loop of powering on and off without ever getting to BIOS. I finally replaced the stick back into the A2 slot and it's functioning as normal again.

My MOBO is an AS Rock Phantom 4 Gaming B550. What did I do wrong?

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Also when I replaced the stick in the A2 slot I found the MOBO had reset my Memory profile and I had to switch it back to run the memory at full speed (3600 Mhz).

hollow thorn Jan 24, 2021, 8:07 PM

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Single stick not booting in B1 is somewhat concerning, otherwise it's possible the board was confused, and you just needed to reset cmos to reset ram settings

sonic scaffold Jan 24, 2021, 8:17 PM

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how many more frames would I get on PCIE 4.0 vs PCIE 3.0 with a 3060 ti ?

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is there a rough estimate for this kind of difference because I can't find much on it online

hollow thorn Jan 24, 2021, 8:31 PM

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It shouldn't matter

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we had pcie 3.0 vs 4.0 testing early in with like 3080s and 3090s

elfin warren Jan 24, 2021, 8:32 PM

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None

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No difference lol

rapid thunder Jan 24, 2021, 8:44 PM

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hollow thorn Single stick not booting in B1 is somewhat concerning, otherwise it's possible t...

It was a single stick not booting in A1 specifically. Do I just pop the battery out and put it back in or is there a reset jumper on the board?

hollow thorn Jan 24, 2021, 8:45 PM

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battery method is good

rapid thunder Jan 24, 2021, 9:15 PM

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How much performance gain is there going from single to dual channel?

elfin warren Jan 24, 2021, 9:18 PM

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A bit

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20% maybe?

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15-20%?

ruby laurel Jan 24, 2021, 9:28 PM

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igpu is like 50% lol

sonic scaffold Jan 24, 2021, 10:23 PM

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what is the point of PCIE 4.0?

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is that a stupid question?

wind karma Jan 24, 2021, 10:28 PM

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will there be a cpu bottleneck on a laptop with an i5-9300H and an rtx 2060?

ruby laurel Jan 24, 2021, 10:29 PM

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sonic scaffold what is the point of PCIE 4.0?

more bandwidth

tough junco Jan 24, 2021, 10:31 PM

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is amd ryzen 5 a decent cpu

neat drift Jan 24, 2021, 10:31 PM

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Does anyone have an MSI B550M Pro VDH Wi-Fi?

tough junco Jan 24, 2021, 10:31 PM

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im building my first build so making sure on everything

wind karma Jan 24, 2021, 10:32 PM

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tough junco is amd ryzen 5 a decent cpu

which ryzen 5?

tough junco Jan 24, 2021, 10:32 PM

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3600 3.6 GHz 6-core

wind karma Jan 24, 2021, 10:32 PM

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yes its a pretty good cpu

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what GPU are you pairing with it?

elfin warren Jan 24, 2021, 10:33 PM

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Go intel 10400 instead

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Cheaper and more game fps

tough junco Jan 24, 2021, 10:33 PM

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i'm not 100% sure yet but its probably going to be the powercolor radeon rx 5700

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i'm trying to find cheaper options for gpu

ruby laurel Jan 24, 2021, 10:33 PM

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dont get 5700

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lol

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my daughter has one and its driver issues out the ass

tough junco Jan 24, 2021, 10:34 PM

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yeah i saw some stuff on the reviews abt it so i wasnt sure

wind karma Jan 24, 2021, 10:34 PM

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5700 is bad even with driver updates

ruby laurel Jan 24, 2021, 10:34 PM

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i mean if you like blackscreens and game crashes its the perfect card

ruby laurel Jan 24, 2021, 10:34 PM

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wind karma 5700 is bad even with driver updates

weird way to spell "basically any amd card"

tough junco Jan 24, 2021, 10:34 PM

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any suggestions then

ruby laurel Jan 24, 2021, 10:34 PM

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keeeek

ruby laurel Jan 24, 2021, 10:34 PM

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tough junco any suggestions then

nvidia

wind karma Jan 24, 2021, 10:35 PM

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3060ti

tough junco Jan 24, 2021, 10:35 PM

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i'll check it out thanks

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which 3060ti one cause theres a lot

ruby laurel Jan 24, 2021, 10:36 PM

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i like EVGA

elfin warren Jan 24, 2021, 10:37 PM

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I see you dont believe. 7 fps over the 3600 lol

📎 Screenshot_20210124-143636_Chrome.jpg

tough junco Jan 24, 2021, 10:38 PM

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intel isnt bad but i feel like amd can survive longer but idk cause this is my first build

ruby laurel Jan 24, 2021, 10:38 PM

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elfin warren I see you dont believe. 7 fps over the 3600 lol

buh,,,, buh amd bad intel good????????????

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wait oops

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other way around

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wtf linus lied to us in all his amd ad spots!!!!1111!!!111!!!!!!111!!!

nova hornet Jan 24, 2021, 10:43 PM

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But what ram was in the ryzen builds 🤔

ruby laurel Jan 24, 2021, 10:45 PM

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guessing some 3200mhz cl16

elfin warren Jan 24, 2021, 10:49 PM

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Yup, that's all that really matters for the 3600 anyway

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It doesn't really benefit any faster

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until you go 3700+ or 5000

river ledge Jan 24, 2021, 11:27 PM

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tough junco intel isnt bad but i feel like amd can survive longer but idk cause this is my f...

Intel is better then amd

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12th gen is coming in 2021 with 11th gen shakek

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No more 14nm+++++ now it’s 10nm

tough junco Jan 24, 2021, 11:33 PM

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i’ll pick at the end when i know what else do have for my build but what do you thinkwoukd be a good like intermediate gamer intel cpu

naive pendant Jan 24, 2021, 11:35 PM

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river ledge No more 14nm+++++ now it’s 10nm

Micro jump in performance

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And they're doing big.LITTLE design

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Good luck with that

naive pendant Jan 24, 2021, 11:55 PM

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ruby laurel my daughter has one and its driver issues out the ass

naaaaaaaaaaa

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never happened

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doesn't exist

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my 12 do just fine lul

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harold

rapid thunder Jan 25, 2021, 12:10 AM

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hollow thorn battery method is good

So I did reseat the battery, and it boots now with the sticks in the A1 and B1 slots, but now the bios isn’t letting me set the RAM frequency properly. I set the desired XMP profile but it keeps defaulting to 2133 MHz even after I save my settings

hollow thorn Jan 25, 2021, 12:11 AM

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That's a start

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Try manual freq&voltage

rapid thunder Jan 25, 2021, 12:14 AM

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It even changed the timings. The default is 16-19-19-39, but it changed it to 15-15-15-36.

hollow thorn Jan 25, 2021, 12:14 AM

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JEDEC defaults are 2133 15-15-15-36

rapid thunder Jan 25, 2021, 12:14 AM

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JEDEC?

hollow thorn Jan 25, 2021, 12:15 AM

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forgot what it stood for, the organization that made the standards for ram

rapid thunder Jan 25, 2021, 12:16 AM

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Oh. So those are the basic default speed and timing the RAM will go to in lieu of other settings.

Looking at the manual now.

hollow thorn Jan 25, 2021, 12:18 AM

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Yea

rapid thunder Jan 25, 2021, 12:20 AM

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📎 image0.jpg

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📎 image0.jpg

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I’m not sure what to get out of this

limber dragon Jan 25, 2021, 12:21 AM

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you just need to enable xmp in bios

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wait nvm, didnt scroll up

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A1 and B1 are the slots closest to the cpu right?

rapid thunder Jan 25, 2021, 12:23 AM

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📎 image0.jpg

limber dragon Jan 25, 2021, 12:23 AM

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looking at the motherboard, you want [cpu] [empty slot] [stick] [empty slot] [stick] [24-pin connector]

nova hornet Jan 25, 2021, 12:23 AM

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so a2 b2

rapid thunder Jan 25, 2021, 12:24 AM

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So shift both sticks on slot to the right. Got it.

limber dragon Jan 25, 2021, 12:24 AM

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yup

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xmp should just work

rapid thunder Jan 25, 2021, 12:24 AM

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📎 image0.jpg

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Any reason why it isn’t?

limber dragon Jan 25, 2021, 12:25 AM

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you're in the wrong slots

rapid thunder Jan 25, 2021, 12:25 AM

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Also it now power cycles twice when exiting the BIOS when it didn’t do it at all before.

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I’ll move the sticks and see what happens

limber dragon Jan 25, 2021, 12:26 AM

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power cycling is it attempting to train the ram and failing to do so

rapid thunder Jan 25, 2021, 12:26 AM

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Train?

limber dragon Jan 25, 2021, 12:27 AM

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making sure the cpu can do the timings

rapid thunder Jan 25, 2021, 12:27 AM

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Ah.

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I’m about to move the sticks. Will I need to reset the CMOS again to get into BIOS?

limber dragon Jan 25, 2021, 12:29 AM

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shouldnt have to

nova hornet Jan 25, 2021, 12:30 AM

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just mash delete key when booting

limber dragon Jan 25, 2021, 12:30 AM

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memory traces go like this, if there isnt a stick in A2 or B2, it has issues getting to A1 and B1

📎 Untitled.png

rapid thunder Jan 25, 2021, 12:38 AM

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About to reboot

📎 image0.jpg

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No power cycle on exiting BIOS

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So far so good

limber dragon Jan 25, 2021, 12:40 AM

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https://tenor.com/view/nice-very-nice-well-done-gif-4295060

Tenor

Borat Very

▶ Play video

rapid thunder Jan 25, 2021, 12:41 AM

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Now I’m booting into Windows. Before I go back to BIOS to see if it worked, does the system throttle down memory speed like it does the CPU when idle or under light loads as a power saving measure?

limber dragon Jan 25, 2021, 12:41 AM

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no

rapid thunder Jan 25, 2021, 12:43 AM

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So what does that default clock speed in NZXT cam mean?

📎 image0.jpg

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The timings are back to normal (I don’t manually mess around with those yet)

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But the speed isn’t showing in Windows so I’m curious how that works.

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Going back to BIOS now

elfin warren Jan 25, 2021, 12:44 AM

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Taht's DDR 3600

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Should be fine

rapid thunder Jan 25, 2021, 12:45 AM

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I don’t know what to make of the clock speed though

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In NZXT cam

limber dragon Jan 25, 2021, 12:46 AM

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default of 1066 (x2) = 2133

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current of 1800 (x2) = 3600

elfin warren Jan 25, 2021, 12:46 AM

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Yup

limber dragon Jan 25, 2021, 12:46 AM

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useless information that shouldnt be there

rapid thunder Jan 25, 2021, 12:47 AM

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Oh. Neat

elfin warren Jan 25, 2021, 12:47 AM

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NAXT CAM is kinda oof anyway

rapid thunder Jan 25, 2021, 12:47 AM

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Looks like I’m back up to full speed.

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📎 image0.jpg

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First, thank you all for your help.

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Second, was I just being an idiot or is this something that wasn’t explained well in the manual?

limber dragon Jan 25, 2021, 12:48 AM

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manuals can suck at it, probably an asrock issue

rapid thunder Jan 25, 2021, 12:48 AM

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📎 image0.jpg

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Looks like the XMP profile is loaded and everything

limber dragon Jan 25, 2021, 12:49 AM

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https://github.com/irusanov/ZenTimings/releases can always use this to double check

GitHub

Releases · irusanov/ZenTimings

Contribute to irusanov/ZenTimings development by creating an account on GitHub.

rapid thunder Jan 25, 2021, 12:52 AM

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I even watched a bunch of Linus and Jayztwocents before building to try and avoid mistakes like these and while they mentioned that dual channel usually necessitates using alternate slots none of my research indicated that I should use slots 2 and 4 over 1 and 3.

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I didn’t even know the traces thing until you posted your little graphic

nova hornet Jan 25, 2021, 12:55 AM

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it's explained in your motherboard's manual, asrock did a real bad job at it

rapid thunder Jan 25, 2021, 12:55 AM

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Oh...

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Shoot, you’re right.

nova hornet Jan 25, 2021, 12:55 AM

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📎 unknown.png

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this chart is...not very helpful if you're looking at it for the first time

rapid thunder Jan 25, 2021, 12:56 AM

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📎 image0.jpg

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I thought number two was referring to using either one or three sticks

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Not slot numbers

nova hornet Jan 25, 2021, 12:57 AM

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no, that is what that is saying, that's referring to something different

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that's talking about utilizing dual channel memory, which it needs 2 or 4 physical sticks to do

rapid thunder Jan 25, 2021, 12:58 AM

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Is the chart the explanation we seek?

nova hornet Jan 25, 2021, 12:58 AM

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the chart I posted is right under that, and talks about what slots to use with certain ram configurations

rapid thunder Jan 25, 2021, 12:58 AM

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Because I’m not sure what to make of it. Are ranks a synonym for channel?

nova hornet Jan 25, 2021, 12:58 AM

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but again, they did a real bad job of trying to explain it

rapid thunder Jan 25, 2021, 12:59 AM

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And my memory has a default speed of 3600 MHz which isn’t even on the chart

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G.Skill 3600 CL16 memory.

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Well, regardless of ASRock's poor manual writing, I'm up and running at full capacity. Thank you all for your help.

ruby laurel Jan 25, 2021, 3:42 AM

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#links-and-selfpromotion

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delete and put it there

bright shoal Jan 25, 2021, 3:42 AM

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YOO IM SO SORRY

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my brother shares the same computer as me

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he wanted to promote his video

ruby laurel Jan 25, 2021, 3:42 AM

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uh huh

nova hornet Jan 25, 2021, 3:42 AM

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this dude really pasted it in every channel

bright shoal Jan 25, 2021, 3:42 AM

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ill delete all the links

nova hornet Jan 25, 2021, 3:42 AM

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then pulled a "my bro"

ruby laurel Jan 25, 2021, 3:42 AM

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delete it before i call a mod to do it for you

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@copper solar pls clean spam lol

copper solar Jan 25, 2021, 3:44 AM

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https://tenor.com/view/anime-sleeping-im-dead-gif-15157935

Tenor

nova hornet Jan 25, 2021, 3:44 AM

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even ranks and levels kekw

ruby laurel Jan 25, 2021, 3:45 AM

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exact same username on yt and discord keeeek

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"my brother" my ass

nova hornet Jan 25, 2021, 3:46 AM

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"my bro was on my computer" is right up there with "my uncle works at nintendo"

ruby laurel Jan 25, 2021, 4:10 AM

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imagine the one kid whose uncle literally works at nintendo getting bullied

median talon Jan 25, 2021, 6:55 AM

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I think I already know the answer to this but can there be something wrong with a CPU even if the pins are fine

elfin warren Jan 25, 2021, 6:57 AM

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Of course

median talon Jan 25, 2021, 6:59 AM

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Hmm I figured, wanted to see if I can get a deal on a 5800x but a little scared it might not work

weak notch Jan 25, 2021, 8:05 AM

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rapid thunder And my memory has a default speed of 3600 MHz which isn’t even on the chart

default speed of 3600CL16

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thats some wild JEDEC sir

weak notch Jan 25, 2021, 8:06 AM

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rapid thunder I even watched a bunch of Linus and Jayztwocents before building to try and avoi...

ok so basically the reason why you lose slots 2 and 4 over slots 1 and 3 is pretty straightforward to understand with modern mobos

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its because the memory topology (Daisychain) puts the two dimms in series of one another, 1 and 3 are in series of 2 and 4 respectively

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if you use 1 and 3 you are technically decreasing signal integrity (not by a margin that really matters unless you're doing wacky overclock things)

limber dragon Jan 25, 2021, 8:08 AM

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#cpus-mobo-and-memory message

weak notch Jan 25, 2021, 8:08 AM

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limber dragon https://discord.com/channels/500085440221806603/500101047612604427/8030591956781...

lol was looking for an appropriate picture that works well

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i like this one

📎 ramanbidnungi9jat1wk0b.png

median lance Jan 25, 2021, 4:11 PM

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For 64gb kit is 16-18-18-38 a bit slow?

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Tempted to get that over a bdie 32gb kit

elfin warren Jan 25, 2021, 4:12 PM

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what speed

median lance Jan 25, 2021, 4:12 PM

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3600

elfin warren Jan 25, 2021, 4:12 PM

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For Ryzen that's fine

median lance Jan 25, 2021, 4:12 PM

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Cool ty!

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Would there be much of an FPS difference? Between a 3600 16-16-16-36 kit and that one?*

elfin warren Jan 25, 2021, 4:14 PM

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No

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Probs none

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B-Die is for overclocking mainly

median lance Jan 25, 2021, 4:14 PM

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Oh okay I just enable xmp and leave it

elfin warren Jan 25, 2021, 4:15 PM

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Yep

median lance Jan 25, 2021, 4:15 PM

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Cool ty! ^^

elfin warren Jan 25, 2021, 4:16 PM

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YW

median lance Jan 25, 2021, 4:19 PM

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I think they have a spreadsheet somewhere

elfin warren Jan 25, 2021, 4:19 PM

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If Ryzen, then 3600 C 16. If Intel, then 3200 C14/C16

median lance Jan 25, 2021, 4:20 PM

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Or ryzen 3600 c14 if you wanna overpay I think

elfin warren Jan 25, 2021, 4:20 PM

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C14 isn't really worth it. Ballistix if you can find it for Micron Rev E

median lance Jan 25, 2021, 4:21 PM

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BL2K32G36C16U4B that’s the one I’m looking at it’s ballistix

elfin warren Jan 25, 2021, 4:22 PM

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$350?? ouch

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That ram is fine but don't expect an overclock on Gskill

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It'll work then

median lance Jan 25, 2021, 4:23 PM

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yeah it was either that one vintage or F4-3600C16D-32GTZN

elfin warren Jan 25, 2021, 4:24 PM

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Are you going to OC your ram?

median lance Jan 25, 2021, 4:24 PM

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me? Nah just xmp.

elfin warren Jan 25, 2021, 4:24 PM

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If not, just get the rated speed and timings you want

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Only worry about Dies if you want to OC

median lance Jan 25, 2021, 4:25 PM

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I thought xmp was kind of an auto oc tho no?

elfin warren Jan 25, 2021, 4:25 PM

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It is

median lance Jan 25, 2021, 4:25 PM

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so I didn’t know if it mattered much for FPS

elfin warren Jan 25, 2021, 4:25 PM

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It does with Ryzen

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not so much with Intel

median lance Jan 25, 2021, 4:25 PM

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So I was just debating between the two kits

elfin warren Jan 25, 2021, 4:25 PM

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Well, the two kits have the same speed and timings so

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It will only matter if you want to OC past XMP

median lance Jan 25, 2021, 4:25 PM

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Cos one is bdie but only 32gb tighter timings

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The other is a little looser

elfin warren Jan 25, 2021, 4:26 PM

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Sub timings don't matter a whole lot

median lance Jan 25, 2021, 4:26 PM

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Ah okay

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I’ll just get the one then I only plan on gaming/streaming and stuff

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So more capacity probably the better

elfin warren Jan 25, 2021, 4:27 PM

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Get the lesser expensive ones if you're just going to XMP

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Honestly, 64 GB isn't needed unless you're rendering Blender or something

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Gaming/streaming 32 GB is more than enough

median lance Jan 25, 2021, 4:28 PM

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Oh, okay! Pairing with a 3090 so I was just going all out on the last part I have every else but the ram

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I’ll get the 32gb then 😛 ty

elfin warren Jan 25, 2021, 4:28 PM

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YW

median lance Jan 25, 2021, 4:33 PM

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3700 is still solid tbh.

elfin warren Jan 25, 2021, 4:33 PM

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I have one

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It's perfectly fine

median lance Jan 25, 2021, 4:34 PM

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^^

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The asus tuf motherboard is one of my favorites

elfin warren Jan 25, 2021, 4:36 PM

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I have

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Super good

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WiFi fast if you set it up right

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📎 WiFi_lol.JPG

median lance Jan 25, 2021, 4:37 PM

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probably a bit lol

elfin warren Jan 25, 2021, 4:37 PM

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I'm on the second floor

median lance Jan 25, 2021, 4:37 PM

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daisy chained the wifi vintage?

elfin warren Jan 25, 2021, 4:37 PM

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Nay

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Straight from modem to me

median lance Jan 25, 2021, 4:37 PM

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Oh damn

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^^

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I’m actually using the asus tuf 3090 I really like a lot of the “tuf” edition stuff

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Usually super sturdy

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yeah like the mobo pcie brackets are super reinforced

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Sounds good !

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Ciao

hollow thorn Jan 25, 2021, 4:41 PM

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it's going to be okay

median lance Jan 25, 2021, 4:44 PM

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yeah things are totally different than 5 years ago

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I don’t remember a 2k usd gpu back then but it probably existed just not to much in the consumer market i imagine

loud escarp Jan 25, 2021, 7:46 PM

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What would be the recommended cpu and platform for a home server that could be used to host servers in some games

ruby laurel Jan 25, 2021, 7:46 PM

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loud escarp What would be the recommended cpu and platform for a home server that could be u...

intel is better for home servers

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but wdym

loud escarp Jan 25, 2021, 7:51 PM

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Something for file storage, some game storage, and hosting WAN servers/private servers in games

ruby laurel Jan 25, 2021, 7:53 PM

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whitebox or buying nas or buying server?

loud escarp Jan 25, 2021, 7:55 PM

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Wym?

ruby laurel Jan 25, 2021, 7:55 PM

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you building a server, buying a nas, or buying enterprise hardware

loud escarp Jan 25, 2021, 7:56 PM

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Building a server

ruby laurel Jan 25, 2021, 7:56 PM

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id go with 10400 non f

loud escarp Jan 25, 2021, 7:57 PM

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Can I ask why Intel in specific?

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Price wouldn't matter either

ruby laurel Jan 25, 2021, 7:58 PM

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whats budget

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because intel has quicksync

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and intel igpu god tier tbh

loud escarp Jan 25, 2021, 7:59 PM

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Oh nice, and budget would be about 2.5-3k

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Can go more

ruby laurel Jan 25, 2021, 8:01 PM

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how much storage?

loud escarp Jan 25, 2021, 8:03 PM

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5- 2TB HDD and 5- 1TB SSD

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Or knock it down to 2 SSD's

ruby laurel Jan 25, 2021, 8:04 PM

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do you already have those?

loud escarp Jan 25, 2021, 8:05 PM

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The HDD yes, ssd no, gotta pick them up

ruby laurel Jan 25, 2021, 8:05 PM

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what hdds did you get

loud escarp Jan 25, 2021, 8:05 PM

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2TB Seagate Barracuda at 7200rpm

ruby laurel Jan 25, 2021, 8:05 PM

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ok so its time to return those

loud escarp Jan 25, 2021, 8:06 PM

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Oh?

ruby laurel Jan 25, 2021, 8:06 PM

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lol

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yeah send those back

loud escarp Jan 25, 2021, 8:06 PM

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What should I get?

ruby laurel Jan 25, 2021, 8:06 PM

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so

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https://shucks.top/

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go here

loud escarp Jan 25, 2021, 8:07 PM

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Alright

ruby laurel Jan 25, 2021, 8:07 PM

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also lets go to the correct channel since now its a server build lol

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#storage-devices

loud escarp Jan 25, 2021, 8:07 PM

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Ok lol

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@ruby laurel any mobo on intel platform that would support that many drives?

ruby laurel Jan 25, 2021, 8:10 PM

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most

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since raid card

loud escarp Jan 25, 2021, 8:11 PM

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I'm talking on physical sata ports

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Also, could I go amd for more core/threads and get like a cheap 2gb gpu for output? Would be doing anything graphically Intensive

crisp ingot Jan 25, 2021, 8:38 PM

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what cpu should i pair with a 1050ti 4g

manic hull Jan 25, 2021, 9:00 PM

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crisp ingot what cpu should i pair with a 1050ti 4g

depends on the budget and use case but maybe a 3400g or i5 10400?

naive pendant Jan 25, 2021, 9:35 PM

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Is 370 euros a good price for Ryzen 5 5600x or should i buy Ryzen 7 3700x for 315euro

river ledge Jan 25, 2021, 10:40 PM

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naive pendant Is 370 euros a good price for Ryzen 5 5600x or should i buy Ryzen 7 3700x for 31...

Try i7 10700k if it’s in your budget

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Better then ryzen 7 in multicore when oc

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If your not gonna oc, ryzen 7 but less FPS in gaming

naive pendant Jan 25, 2021, 10:52 PM

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340 euro for i 10700k mhm i would rather spend 30 euro more and go with 5600x

jagged pier Jan 25, 2021, 11:21 PM

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Anyone understand what the effect of memory latency is on a 5000 series ryzen processor? like how important is cas 16 vs 18 or 14?

hollow thorn Jan 25, 2021, 11:22 PM

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lower = better >:P

jagged pier Jan 25, 2021, 11:22 PM

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lmao

hollow thorn Jan 25, 2021, 11:23 PM

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@jagged pier Yes this is on a different topic, but GN had a lot of data on different freq&timings, mainly 3800c18, 3600c16, and 3200c14
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-UkGu6A-6sQ

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jagged pier Jan 25, 2021, 11:24 PM

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i literally just watched that lmao

hollow thorn Jan 25, 2021, 11:24 PM

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So you should know the basics

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3200c14 is at or above 3600c16

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which is at or above 3800c18

jagged pier Jan 25, 2021, 11:24 PM

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so low latency at lower speeds is better than high latency at higher speeds

hollow thorn Jan 25, 2021, 11:25 PM

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I know the cas latency ns is flawed, but it'll give you an idea of how they kind of compare

📎 iu.png

jagged pier Jan 25, 2021, 11:26 PM

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i have ascended in colors

hollow thorn Jan 25, 2021, 11:26 PM

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pictures galore

jagged pier Jan 25, 2021, 11:27 PM

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my brother said "much appreciated coomlord"

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XD

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im helping him spec out a pc

hollow thorn Jan 25, 2021, 11:28 PM

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lmao

jagged pier Jan 25, 2021, 11:34 PM

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at what speed does the ram not scale? i know 3200 was the limit because of the infinity fabric or something for 2000 series is that still the case?

hollow thorn Jan 25, 2021, 11:35 PM

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Max wise, IF wise, (ram freq wise)
3200mhz max iirc in terms of IF for Zen+
3800mhz max in terms of IF for Zen 2
4000mhz max in terms of IF for Zen 3 (recent AGESA update promised it)

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Sweet spot wise, 3600mhz (cl16) for zen 2 and zen 3 for now, not enough testing with 4000mhz on zen 3 yet

jagged pier Jan 25, 2021, 11:36 PM

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will latency continue to scale where clock speed wont?

hollow thorn Jan 25, 2021, 11:37 PM

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of course like 3600c14 will perform better than 3600c16

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but at that point it's expensive as hekk

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for very little performance

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3600c16 best spot for not spending a lot of monies

jagged pier Jan 25, 2021, 11:38 PM

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we gotta spend that covid unemployment money somewhere

hollow thorn Jan 25, 2021, 11:39 PM

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I mean a lot when I say a lot

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something like 80$ for a kit of 3600c16 against maybe 160$ for a kit of 3600c14

limber dragon Jan 25, 2021, 11:41 PM

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If you're just doing xmp, get 3600 16-18-18 crucials

hollow thorn Jan 25, 2021, 11:41 PM

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ya ballistix is great

jagged pier Jan 25, 2021, 11:41 PM

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https://www.newegg.com/ballistix-32gb-288-pin-ddr4-sdram/p/N82E16820164186

hollow thorn Jan 25, 2021, 11:42 PM

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is good

river ledge Jan 26, 2021, 12:09 AM

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shrexy

📎 ASUS-ROG-Maximus-XII-Extreme-Gundam-Edition-Motherboard_1-1-1160x839.png

hollow thorn Jan 26, 2021, 12:10 AM

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wack

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@river ledge look at the z590 Unify

📎 msi-17.png

fickle iris Jan 26, 2021, 12:22 AM

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now that is a nice mobo

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dem vrm's aswell

hollow thorn Jan 26, 2021, 12:25 AM

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reported price sad tho

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390usd msrp