#cpus-mobo-and-memory | Newegg | Page 159

fresh river Dec 6, 2020, 9:10 AM

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I know it’s a RAM issue

long geyser Dec 6, 2020, 10:07 AM

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memory position x (an instruction) couldnt read what was in memory position y (probably a variable, but who knows)

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what caused it? Could range from anything from one of many random software issues to one of many random hardware issues. Too little info to go off of

scenic tree Dec 6, 2020, 11:40 AM

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I am trying to decide between a B550 Vision or an X570 Steel Legend. Which should I get? Price is irrelevant to an extent. Im not spending 1k on the Aqua. Hopefully you guys can help out with this.

My requirements were:
Has Wi-Fi (for the route im going its required)
White
Future Proof
Good VRM
No voltage limiter
Good overclocking

I'm open to suggestions, but those 2 boards were the main ones I found that met my needs/wants.

naive pendant Dec 6, 2020, 11:59 AM

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scenic tree I am trying to decide between a B550 Vision or an X570 Steel Legend. Which shoul...

Vision

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and why the voltage limiter requirement

scenic tree Dec 6, 2020, 12:00 PM

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Mando to the rescue again

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No limiter

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I dont want one

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The first mobo i got was an rog strix x570 i

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It has a voltage limiter on it

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Sent it back and got the crosshair impact

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Now im prepping for my 2nd build and it'll be inside the deepcool quadstellar electro

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I want it to be silver/white out

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Hopefully that provides enough insight

naive pendant Dec 6, 2020, 12:03 PM

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vision d should be good

scenic tree Dec 6, 2020, 12:45 PM

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@naive pendant I did a little bit more research and veered outside the range of mandatory wifi and all i could find was the:
ASUS Prime x570 Pro
Do you have an opinion on that one? Or should I just stick to the vision?

naive pendant Dec 6, 2020, 12:46 PM

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vision

spare gyro Dec 6, 2020, 3:26 PM

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It means that the application allocated memory and it was at that address but when it was accessed it was corrupted. Pretty much nothing more than what you said.

idle pumice Dec 6, 2020, 5:03 PM

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I currently have 32gb of G.skill trident ram 8gb x 4 (F4-3200C16Q-32GTZB). My motherboard has 4 more available slots and 64gb total capacity. Can I buy 4 8gb stick of Corsair Vengeance which is also DDR4 3200 and same latency. Or should I sell my old ram and buy 64gb of Vengeance.

silent lichen Dec 6, 2020, 5:05 PM

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I got a 8-core threadripper and am seeing CPU loads of 13-18 in my workloads... debating whether its worth upgrading to a 16-core CPU... thoughts?

paper island Dec 6, 2020, 5:14 PM

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Anyone have an alternative for the r5 2600

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I already have my motherboard so i cant switch to an intel

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Same price same performance and actually in stock lol

naive pendant Dec 6, 2020, 5:22 PM

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Can you return the motherboard

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or no

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Because 3600 is out of stock/overpriced

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10400F is way better

eager shore Dec 6, 2020, 5:24 PM

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wouldn't a 3100 be a cheaper option with performance being on par with the 2600

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if she's deciding to keep the mobo

gritty meadow Dec 6, 2020, 5:30 PM

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stock is the problem on the 3100 (normally that is)

naive pendant Dec 6, 2020, 5:32 PM

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eager shore wouldn't a 3100 be a cheaper option with performance being on par with the 2600

3100 never in stock

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and 10400f is like 170$

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so price difference isn't large at all

pale mist Dec 6, 2020, 6:03 PM

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amd has better OCing am pretty sure

patent cypress Dec 6, 2020, 6:05 PM

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help

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which is better, R5 2600 or R7 1700

gritty meadow Dec 6, 2020, 6:05 PM

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2600

patent cypress Dec 6, 2020, 6:05 PM

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R7 is cheaper on newegg but the R5 appears to be better in most ways

gritty meadow Dec 6, 2020, 6:06 PM

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why are you looking at products that old thou?

patent cypress Dec 6, 2020, 6:06 PM

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idk lol im not even supposed to be looking, my friend said he would find his old cpu but he still hasnt so i have to buy one.

gritty meadow Dec 6, 2020, 6:06 PM

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what mainboard do you have?

patent cypress Dec 6, 2020, 6:07 PM

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wait its under the tree rn let me go get it

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ASUS prime a320m-k

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nothing is built yet, i have all the parts except cpu

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my main concern is the ram speed, the 2600 runs up to 2933mhz while 1700 is at around 2666mhz

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and i bought 3000mhz ram

gritty meadow Dec 6, 2020, 6:09 PM

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ram will be fine

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it will downclock

patent cypress Dec 6, 2020, 6:09 PM

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ik as long as its closer to 3k im fine

gritty meadow Dec 6, 2020, 6:09 PM

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however, do note, that mainboard can support the 3000 series of chips

violet zealot Dec 6, 2020, 6:09 PM

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Those are the officially supported speeds, basically the motherboard will limit the xmp to 2933 typically

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It is possible to run it past that speed though through manual tweaking

patent cypress Dec 6, 2020, 6:10 PM

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no no no, see, i was waiting on my friend to get the cpu for me because im already going over budget, my cpu budget is at most around 220 and thats with MA 6.25% sales tax included

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because im being forced to buy since he cant find it

gritty meadow Dec 6, 2020, 6:11 PM

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also, keep the following in mind: the 2000 series cpu's support up to 3200 on the ram side

patent cypress Dec 6, 2020, 6:11 PM

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on the amd site it says it supports a max of 2933mhz

gritty meadow Dec 6, 2020, 6:11 PM

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(i just checked, i have the support list open here next to this window)

patent cypress Dec 6, 2020, 6:11 PM

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wdym support list?

gritty meadow Dec 6, 2020, 6:12 PM

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what you are looking at is what the cpu itself supports

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but ram support is a combination of mainboard + cpu

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which was part of the reason for ALSO asking about the mainboard model :)

patent cypress Dec 6, 2020, 6:13 PM

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oh

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the box says the mobo supports up to 32gb ddr4 3200

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i have 16gb ddr4 3000

gritty meadow Dec 6, 2020, 6:13 PM

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again

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not a problem

patent cypress Dec 6, 2020, 6:13 PM

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yeah

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so basically i should cancel the order for 1700 my mom placed last night

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and get the 2600

gritty meadow Dec 6, 2020, 6:14 PM

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its your call, but the 2600 is the better of the two

patent cypress Dec 6, 2020, 6:14 PM

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if its in processing cancellation will 100% work right

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not 100, but close?

gritty meadow Dec 6, 2020, 6:15 PM

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that is between you and the company you ordered at

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i have no idea

patent cypress Dec 6, 2020, 6:15 PM

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newegg

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oops

gritty meadow Dec 6, 2020, 6:15 PM

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and i dont work for newegg :)

patent cypress Dec 6, 2020, 6:15 PM

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not a company sry

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wait nvm

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it is just

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it is, just not the one.... nvm

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i cant word this well rn

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anyway

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is the 1700 better for streaming tho

gritty meadow Dec 6, 2020, 6:16 PM

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its equal

patent cypress Dec 6, 2020, 6:16 PM

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ok thanks im gonna go cancel the order now

gritty meadow Dec 6, 2020, 6:18 PM

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you are very welcome :)

trim dust Dec 6, 2020, 7:01 PM

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is it better to get 3200 cl16 or 3600 cl18 for a ryzen 3600

ocean phoenix Dec 6, 2020, 7:02 PM

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3600 cl18 is a hair better I think

violet zealot Dec 6, 2020, 7:03 PM

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I think they're about the same in terms of latency

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But yes the extra clock speed is beneficial

naive pendant Dec 6, 2020, 7:18 PM

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Hey which boards do you recommend for 5900x ?

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I’m not gonna do crazy custom water cooler, just gonna go for basic aio setup.

azure pulsar Dec 6, 2020, 7:19 PM

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any good b550 or x570 will do fine

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you can look at the pinned spreadsheet

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if u want a super detailed list

naive pendant Dec 6, 2020, 7:20 PM

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Where do i find that?

azure pulsar Dec 6, 2020, 7:20 PM

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https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1wmsTYK9Z3-jUX5LGRoFnsZYZiW1pfiDZnKCjaXyzd1o/edit#gid=2112472504

Google Docs

X570/X470/X370/B550/B450/B350/A520/A320 Motherboards (AM4-socket fo...

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naive pendant Dec 6, 2020, 7:21 PM

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Gracias

azure pulsar Dec 6, 2020, 7:21 PM

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np

tardy abyss Dec 6, 2020, 8:00 PM

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so maybe someone can correct me. I feel like i watched a video about getting a b550 because it would work with am5 ryzen. but this is simply incorrect right?

hollow thorn Dec 6, 2020, 8:02 PM

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Yea... Chips aren't exactly interchangeable between sockets...

tardy abyss Dec 6, 2020, 8:03 PM

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so then what's the point of even buying the b550

azure pulsar Dec 6, 2020, 8:03 PM

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are u telling me i CANT put my 5950x into my lga1151 socket?

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🤨

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and @tardy abyss bc its compatible with most am4 chips ?

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including zen 3

violet zealot Dec 6, 2020, 8:04 PM

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It supports PCIE Gen 4

hollow thorn Dec 6, 2020, 8:04 PM

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@tardy abyss for the chip it supports lol

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I mean, what else is the point of buying a board that supports the current generation?

azure pulsar Dec 6, 2020, 8:04 PM

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bc it doesnt support the last gen

violet zealot Dec 6, 2020, 8:06 PM

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That might be the only reason

tardy abyss Dec 6, 2020, 8:08 PM

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Aren't there bios updates for 5000 series with b450s coming though

violet zealot Dec 6, 2020, 8:13 PM

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It comes down to the manufacturer's discretion

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Most of them will be Beta bios which I've heard is a headache as it is regarding Zen2 on B350/X370. Some of them might have ample support but it's impossible to say until they're all out, might depend on the model really

gritty meadow Dec 6, 2020, 8:18 PM

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@tardy abyss you are aware that boards with AM5 sockets are about 1 year away right?

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so, something seems very off/weird about your question

tardy abyss Dec 6, 2020, 8:20 PM

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I guess I’m confused as to why people recommend b550 for 3600s

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What is the point

gritty meadow Dec 6, 2020, 8:22 PM

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its a confirmed upgrade path later down the line

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a b550 board WILL support a 5000 series cpu

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so its a safe investment in that regard

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and as a side effect, the IO is better on b550 vs b450

tardy abyss Dec 6, 2020, 8:41 PM

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i guess it's just hard because the am5 would be coming out so you would ideally want to go to that.

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i also didn't realize how much of a pain it might be for b450 transition to zen 3 support.

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thanks all

violet zealot Dec 6, 2020, 8:56 PM

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Maybe, I think we'll see DDR5 come alongside the new socket; and much like when DDR4 was first available I expect it to be pretty pricey

frozen schooner Dec 6, 2020, 9:02 PM

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Anyone else not that impressed with 5900x idle temps with type of oc?

long geyser Dec 6, 2020, 9:21 PM

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idle temps mean nothing, so not really

patent jewel Dec 6, 2020, 9:38 PM

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5600x just arrived

azure pulsar Dec 6, 2020, 9:41 PM

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pog

deep basin Dec 6, 2020, 9:48 PM

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what's a good idle temp for a cpu?

fallen lynx Dec 6, 2020, 9:50 PM

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40-45

deep basin Dec 6, 2020, 9:51 PM

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mine's a bit high then

worthy dome Dec 6, 2020, 9:58 PM

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deep basin what's a good idle temp for a cpu?

30-40 is prime

deep basin Dec 6, 2020, 9:59 PM

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if I lower the voltage and have like 5% usage I can get to like 40ish

worthy dome Dec 6, 2020, 10:03 PM

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deep basin if I lower the voltage and have like 5% usage I can get to like 40ish

What cooler and what cpu

deep basin Dec 6, 2020, 10:04 PM

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ryzen 5 3600 and CORSAIR Hydro Series, H100i RGB PLATINUM, 240mm

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i had to look up the cooler to be 100% sure

worthy dome Dec 6, 2020, 10:06 PM

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For an AIO I think it’s odd to be above 40 idle

naive pendant Dec 6, 2020, 10:07 PM

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What is a good motherboard for the ryzen 7 2700? (Non-X)

worthy dome Dec 6, 2020, 10:08 PM

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naive pendant What is a good motherboard for the ryzen 7 2700? (Non-X)

As rock b450 pro4 (atx version), it’s not expensive

pale mist Dec 6, 2020, 10:09 PM

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asus prime b550 plus is good as well

naive pendant Dec 6, 2020, 10:09 PM

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ok

deep basin Dec 6, 2020, 10:09 PM

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idk what to say

worthy dome Dec 6, 2020, 10:09 PM

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naive pendant ok

You don’t need a b550

pale mist Dec 6, 2020, 10:09 PM

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true but there are some benefits to going b550 and the prime isnt expensive

worthy dome Dec 6, 2020, 10:10 PM

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It’s usually just more expensive

naive pendant Dec 6, 2020, 10:10 PM

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I wasn’t planning to get a b550

hollow thorn Dec 6, 2020, 10:10 PM

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B550 doesn't support 2nd gen Ryzen

naive pendant Dec 6, 2020, 10:10 PM

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They don’t have support for ryzen 2nd gen

worthy dome Dec 6, 2020, 10:11 PM

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naive pendant I wasn’t planning to get a b550

mAtx case or atx

deep basin Dec 6, 2020, 10:11 PM

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naive pendant Dec 6, 2020, 10:11 PM

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I have an atx-ish case

hollow thorn Dec 6, 2020, 10:11 PM

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smth like a B450m pro4/steel legend would be a decent enough board

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@naive pendant Either it supports ATX, or it doesn't, you might be thinking about mid tower/full tower.

worthy dome Dec 6, 2020, 10:11 PM

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naive pendant I have an atx-ish case

Then get a b450 pro 4 atx or mAtx, your choice

naive pendant Dec 6, 2020, 10:11 PM

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Actually it’s a mid tower

hollow thorn Dec 6, 2020, 10:12 PM

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So does it support ATX or no?

worthy dome Dec 6, 2020, 10:12 PM

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Personally I would go for an atx board if you have a atx case

naive pendant Dec 6, 2020, 10:12 PM

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worthy dome Then get a b450 pro 4 atx or mAtx, your choice

Well i will have to see after Christmas

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Actually I changed my mind I don’t need a new motherboard anytime soon

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But thank you

proven grotto Dec 6, 2020, 11:10 PM

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Guys, so I build my pc as of yesterday and turn it on and everything was working(fans and rgb) but it doesn't want to have signal with my monitor with dp port(tested monitor on old pc and it works) did a lot of troubleshooting with Sassyfish but nothing yet, specs are amd ryzen 7 3700x, ram corsair 32 gbs ddr4-3200, amd rx 5700 xt red devil, msi b450 gaming plus max, corsair case with 3 rgb front fans and one rear fan, psu 700 watts evga bronze 80+, and m.2 ssd of wd blue sn550 nvme

fallen lynx Dec 6, 2020, 11:40 PM

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you remembered to plug the DP cable into the GPU and not the MB right?

proven grotto Dec 6, 2020, 11:50 PM

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fallen lynx you remembered to plug the DP cable into the GPU and not the MB right?

Yeah did that and after putting things back to what it was like 6 hrs ago it works now lolll

fallen lynx Dec 6, 2020, 11:52 PM

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you have the 12 EPS/CPU power cables plugged in?

proven grotto Dec 6, 2020, 11:56 PM

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Ye, but getting signal now and everything

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But thanks for responding, not sure how it got solved from what lol

tardy abyss Dec 7, 2020, 12:10 AM

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Anyone have a good recommendation for b450 micro atx motherboard

pale mist Dec 7, 2020, 12:23 AM

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I have successfully used the ASrock b450m steele legend

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@tardy abyss

small tulip Dec 7, 2020, 2:44 AM

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What do yo do for WiFi, usb or pcie?

crimson turret Dec 7, 2020, 3:24 AM

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I'm CPU bound when I play Warzone. I have very slow ram. Is this also potentially limiting my fps?
I have an i7700k and a 3080

violet zealot Dec 7, 2020, 3:26 AM

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Maybe, the thread count might be involved too

crimson turret Dec 7, 2020, 3:28 AM

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because i only have 4 cores or whatever

vivid pewter Dec 7, 2020, 3:43 AM

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So I have to use a 32 gb or under usb flash drive to update bios or it won't work?

eager shore Dec 7, 2020, 3:44 AM

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the space doesn't matter as long as the usb has enough storage for it

vivid pewter Dec 7, 2020, 3:46 AM

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I heard something about problems with fat32 formatting on drives larger than 32gb or something like that

pearl zealot Dec 7, 2020, 3:46 AM

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Yes andy

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I ran into this

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If you're using bios flashback, it only reads fat32 and will not work with partitioned drives

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So the drive itself has to be one fat32 partition, and that only works on 32gb or less

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So to bios flashback, you need a small usb drive

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I didn't realize this when I was ordering stuff, luckily after like 20 min searching I found an old 8gb in a drawer

vivid pewter Dec 7, 2020, 3:50 AM

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Lucky that I have a 32 gb drive and not a larger one

pearl zealot Dec 7, 2020, 3:50 AM

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Although I didn't see this at the time but maybe it works? https://www.howtogeek.com/316977/how-to-format-usb-drives-larger-than-32gb-with-fat32-on-windows/

How-To Geek

For whatever reason, the option to format USB drives larger than 32GB with the FAT32 file system isn’t present in the regular Windows format tool. Here’s how to get around that.

woeful rampart Dec 7, 2020, 5:57 AM

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do b550 motherboards work out of the box with 5000 series or do you need to use the flash bios button? they still do have a flash bios button on them so

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sounds like you still need to use flash bios

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i think i will order a cheap usb stick on amazon and use it to update then return it with amazons easy returning

azure pulsar Dec 7, 2020, 6:06 AM

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@woeful rampart theres a chance it will work out of the box

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the later you buy your mobo, the more likely it is to work out of the box

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since itll be a new unit rather than an older one

woeful rampart Dec 7, 2020, 6:08 AM

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cool, also, i back ordered a mobo while it was on sale that had a $10 rebate included and the $30 steam card, do you think ill still get those promotions in the box? since its back ordered and they are shipping it after the sale

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like the manufacturer is shipping it to the retailer after the sale

azure pulsar Dec 7, 2020, 6:08 AM

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maybe idk

woeful rampart Dec 7, 2020, 6:09 AM

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im not looking forward to going through customer service if neither of them work

stone plaza Dec 7, 2020, 9:50 AM

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Yo quick question, do anyone here know if enabling 4x mode on PCIe-x16_3 on the ASUS ROG Strix X570-F GAMING disables 2 or more Sata ports? If it even has to be turned on ofc, upgrading from Intel

naive pendant Dec 7, 2020, 12:35 PM

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@crimson turret I have a 6700k so can kinda relate

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what performance do you get now?

boreal tundra Dec 7, 2020, 3:38 PM

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can someone recommend me a ram that looks good i need 2x8 3600 please

naive pendant Dec 7, 2020, 4:58 PM

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guys i have a question will the XPG spectriz d50 2x8g 3600 fit into the gigabyte b550m ds3h mobo

spare gyro Dec 7, 2020, 4:58 PM

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steel panther Dec 7, 2020, 5:00 PM

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@naive pendant check if they have the same socket

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oh what was ram

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i think if both are the same ddr they will work

naive pendant Dec 7, 2020, 5:02 PM

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on pcpartpicker it says they workd and they both are ddr4

steel panther Dec 7, 2020, 5:02 PM

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then they should work :))

naive pendant Dec 7, 2020, 5:02 PM

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ok thanks youuu

steel panther Dec 7, 2020, 5:03 PM

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np

fallen lynx Dec 7, 2020, 5:04 PM

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@boreal tundra G.Skill Trident z Neo

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if you want RGB

heady marten Dec 7, 2020, 5:10 PM

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rpg

crimson turret Dec 7, 2020, 7:41 PM

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naive pendant what performance do you get now?

pretty much 70-85 Fps no matter what

naive pendant Dec 7, 2020, 7:42 PM

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What's your RAM

fresh burrow Dec 7, 2020, 7:46 PM

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Hello everyone. A New Egg CS agent sent me here for help on locating the correct ram for a laptop I'm going to buy since their memory finder is not working right now.

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Not sure what the protocol is here but this is the laptop https://www.newegg.com/rog-strix-g-black-asus-rog-strix-g17-g712lw-es74-gaming-entertainment/p/N82E16834235461?Item=N82E16834235461&quicklink=true

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I want to upgrade the ram to 32gb

boreal tundra Dec 7, 2020, 7:55 PM

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you need 2933mhz laptop ram

fresh burrow Dec 7, 2020, 7:56 PM

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@boreal tundra ayyyye thanks a ton!

eager shore Dec 7, 2020, 8:04 PM

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make sure it's also the same voltage and form factor than the other modules

fresh burrow Dec 7, 2020, 8:07 PM

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@eager shore hmmm...ok...now it gets tricky LOL

eager shore Dec 7, 2020, 8:08 PM

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actually lemme double check on that

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ik for a fact that they have to be the same form factor but not sure about the voltages

fresh burrow Dec 7, 2020, 8:09 PM

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Perhaps I should wait until I get the machine then so I can look at the ram to confirm this?

eager shore Dec 7, 2020, 8:10 PM

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sure

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there might be markings on it to assure you

fresh burrow Dec 7, 2020, 8:11 PM

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I'd be completely swapping out the two 8gb sticks for 2 16's tho

keen vortex Dec 7, 2020, 8:59 PM

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hello

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i had an asus tuf gaming x570 plus mobo on my build

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but im going with a ryzen 5000 series processor

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and it doesnt seem to have usb flashback

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any of yall able to recommend another mobo?

hollow thorn Dec 7, 2020, 9:00 PM

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Let's say a B550 Aorus Elite ax at 170$ as an option to start off.

keen vortex Dec 7, 2020, 9:01 PM

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ooh alright

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i think i had a b550 aorus pro ac selected for a while

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i went with the tuf x570 plus because it was just about the same price for an x570 chipset

keen vortex Dec 7, 2020, 9:03 PM

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hollow thorn Let's say a B550 Aorus Elite ax at 170$ as an option to start off.

also to note i'll be using a 5900x and a 3080

hollow thorn Dec 7, 2020, 9:03 PM

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Mhm

azure pulsar Dec 7, 2020, 9:03 PM

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aorus pro ax is better imo but aorus elite is also vibe

hollow thorn Dec 7, 2020, 9:03 PM

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But it actually has better overall features than the X570 board

azure pulsar Dec 7, 2020, 9:03 PM

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b550 aorus boards are all good\

keen vortex Dec 7, 2020, 9:04 PM

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ooh

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okay

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i was trying to go for an asus tuf theme if possible but if the aorus boards are that good i'm willing to deviate

hollow thorn Dec 7, 2020, 9:08 PM

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I believe the Asus b550 board is good too, just can't think of the name atm

fallen lynx Dec 7, 2020, 9:17 PM

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should be $156 https://smile.amazon.com/GIGABYTE-B550-AORUS-Realtek-Motherboard/dp/B089FT8G44/ref=sr_1_1?_encoding=UTF8&ascsubtag=1ba00-01000-ubp00-win10-other-smile-us000-gatwy-feature-SEARC&dchild=1&keywords=GIGABYTE%2BB550%2BAORUS%2BELITE&qid=1603829484&sr=8-1&tag=opr-mkt-opr-us-20&th=1

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also there is apparently a V2 of it

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and i can't see what the difference is

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maybe a USB-C front panel connector?

violet zealot Dec 7, 2020, 9:20 PM

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The only difference I noticed, at least right away is they moved the Sata ports from being front facing to on the side

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Oh yes and the USBC port I see that there now

hollow thorn Dec 7, 2020, 9:24 PM

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V2 changes VRMs for the worse iirc

fallen lynx Dec 7, 2020, 9:24 PM

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the SATA ports are kind of split up on both of them

keen vortex Dec 7, 2020, 9:54 PM

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im looking at the rear i/o of the b550 board yall recommended and its a lot more lackluster than the rear i/o of the asus tuf x570

hollow thorn Dec 7, 2020, 9:57 PM

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which one? @keen vortex looking at B550 aorus elite ax, IO looks better in every way

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than X570 plus wifi

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oh only thing missing is a USB type C on Aorus elite ax, but Aorus elite ax makes up for it by having 2 more USB type A connectors

keen vortex Dec 7, 2020, 9:58 PM

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oh?

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im looking at them and the x570 plus wifi had a bunch of usb 3.2 gen 1 and 2 usb ports

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i dont see the usb type a connectors

hollow thorn Dec 7, 2020, 9:59 PM

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keen vortex Dec 7, 2020, 9:59 PM

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oh wait a sec

hollow thorn Dec 7, 2020, 10:00 PM

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keen vortex Dec 7, 2020, 10:00 PM

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ohhhh yeah it is missing the type c

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oooh and 2.5gb lan okay

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i was looking at the wrong b550 mobo for a while there too

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shouldnt i be trying to get a usb-c tho?

hollow thorn Dec 7, 2020, 10:01 PM

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Hm?

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If you don't need it, you don't need it

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even if you do need it, simple type a to type c converter

keen vortex Dec 7, 2020, 10:02 PM

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ohhh

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wouldnt that be slower though

hollow thorn Dec 7, 2020, 10:02 PM

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it also has internal usb 3.2, which means if you case has a USB type c on the front panel, you can use that

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@keen vortex type c is only the shape, doesn't say anything about speed :D

keen vortex Dec 7, 2020, 10:02 PM

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oh dang okay

hollow thorn Dec 7, 2020, 10:02 PM

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most type c run on usb 3.1/3.2 anyways

keen vortex Dec 7, 2020, 10:02 PM

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alrighty, sweet! thanks man

hollow thorn Dec 7, 2020, 10:03 PM

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:)

keen vortex Dec 7, 2020, 10:09 PM

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hollow thorn :)

ah another question actually

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dammit gimmie a sec

hollow thorn Dec 7, 2020, 10:10 PM

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Take your time

keen vortex Dec 7, 2020, 10:10 PM

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oh wait i cant post images

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that would probably explain it

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well

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im going with an asus tuf gt501 case

hollow thorn Dec 7, 2020, 10:11 PM

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you can post images in #building-and-recc-chat I'd think

keen vortex Dec 7, 2020, 10:11 PM

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and it has 2 usb 3.0 ports in the front

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oh okay

hollow thorn Dec 7, 2020, 10:11 PM

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~~what the heck is that~~

keen vortex Dec 7, 2020, 10:11 PM

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i was just wondering if the b550 elite pro ax had sufficient usb 3 connectors

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you mean the case? lol

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i can post an image of the case

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or actually just

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https://www.newegg.com/black-grey-asus-tuf-gaming-atx-mid-tower/p/N82E16811173034?Description=Asus TUF Gaming GT501&cm_re=Asus_TUF Gaming GT501-_-11-173-034-_-Product&quicklink=true

hollow thorn Dec 7, 2020, 10:12 PM

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I mean

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it's just

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what and why

keen vortex Dec 7, 2020, 10:13 PM

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ah i wanted to go for an asus tuf theme and i really liked that case

hollow thorn Dec 7, 2020, 10:13 PM

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eh alright, just doesn't look so good for the airflow...

keen vortex Dec 7, 2020, 10:13 PM

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it has mesh on the front

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er the sides of the front

hollow thorn Dec 7, 2020, 10:13 PM

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yea

keen vortex Dec 7, 2020, 10:13 PM

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the space for the fans on top and back

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its on one of the images

hollow thorn Dec 7, 2020, 10:13 PM

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that's the downfall of some cases

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like the Coolermaster H500p

keen vortex Dec 7, 2020, 10:14 PM

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oh?

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how so

hollow thorn Dec 7, 2020, 10:14 PM

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but some cases also do it well, like Pure base 500dx

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H500p doesn't get good airflow, despite side vents

keen vortex Dec 7, 2020, 10:14 PM

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aw damn

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i think it might be more similar to the pure base though

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or at least

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actually if you look at the second pic

hollow thorn Dec 7, 2020, 10:15 PM

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anyways @keen vortex it has a usb 3.2 and 2 x USB 2.0 internal headers

keen vortex Dec 7, 2020, 10:15 PM

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it has those filters up top

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oh damn

hollow thorn Dec 7, 2020, 10:15 PM

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You can't tell airflow from looks

keen vortex Dec 7, 2020, 10:15 PM

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well thats not too bad

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yeah

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thats fair

hollow thorn Dec 7, 2020, 10:15 PM

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Just saying the style has good and bad

keen vortex Dec 7, 2020, 10:15 PM

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is there any way to adapt a 2.0 internal header to be sufficient for 3.0 speeds?

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yeah

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i need to look into it more for sure

hollow thorn Dec 7, 2020, 10:16 PM

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thing is, usually they use one header for both usb ports afaik

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very little boards I know of have more than 1 usb 3.1/3.2 internal header

keen vortex Dec 7, 2020, 10:16 PM

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oh?

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so can you adapt that 1 header to use both the ports then

gritty meadow Dec 7, 2020, 10:17 PM

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1 header = 2 output/end-points

keen vortex Dec 7, 2020, 10:17 PM

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like an adapter that splits into 2 usb ports?

hollow thorn Dec 7, 2020, 10:17 PM

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^

keen vortex Dec 7, 2020, 10:17 PM

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oh sweet!

hollow thorn Dec 7, 2020, 10:17 PM

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I mean like from the case's end, a single connector comes down for both ports

keen vortex Dec 7, 2020, 10:17 PM

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i didn't know that

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wait so does the case usually come with an adapter?

hollow thorn Dec 7, 2020, 10:18 PM

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that's USUALLY the case, I can't double check for sure since, well, that's not exactly a thing they list.

keen vortex Dec 7, 2020, 10:18 PM

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er just

gritty meadow Dec 7, 2020, 10:18 PM

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its a question of the manufacturer (of the case) not being a silly goose and only using 1 of those 2 endpoints

keen vortex Dec 7, 2020, 10:18 PM

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the connector

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im a bit confused on this one

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but im getting that by some means

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i'll be able to use both of those ports as a usb 3 port

hollow thorn Dec 7, 2020, 10:19 PM

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On one end, we have the header on the mobo that can support 2 usb ports.
On the other end, we have 2 usb ports on the case.

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how the 2 usb ports are wired in the case is the uncertain bit.

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They should both be wired together into a single connector to be connected into the motherboard

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but I can't say for sure without checking

keen vortex Dec 7, 2020, 10:20 PM

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alrighty

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well regardless i've found the closure i need

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though i havent checked to see if the mobo supports usb flashback or not

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i am pretty comfortable getting this one

hollow thorn Dec 7, 2020, 10:21 PM

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@keen vortex B550 aorus elite ax does, right here, "Q flash plus" is Gigabyte's name for bios flashback

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keen vortex Dec 7, 2020, 10:21 PM

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aw thank god

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it would have sucked if it didnt have it and i had to choose another one

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bc i really wasnt looking forward to having to buy a second cpu to install the bios update

hollow thorn Dec 7, 2020, 10:22 PM

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ofc

gritty meadow Dec 7, 2020, 10:23 PM

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and just to be 100% clear @keen vortex ANY bios flashing should be done with the usb stick plugged in the IO shield (what Mr1111 posted a picture of above)

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NEVER in a case usb plug

keen vortex Dec 7, 2020, 10:25 PM

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okay, i'll be sure to remember that

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thanks yall!

hollow thorn Dec 7, 2020, 10:26 PM

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:)

boreal tundra Dec 7, 2020, 11:08 PM

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@hollow thorn a good case under 100?

hollow thorn Dec 7, 2020, 11:09 PM

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#cases-psu-and-cooling

neat estuary Dec 7, 2020, 11:19 PM

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I came accross a glitch with the last 2 PCs i built. both b550-e motherboards, one Zen 2 one Zen 3. Nividia and AMD GPUs. when they sit for a while in sleep mode or shutdown they will sometimes not boot without several hard resets.. both have QVL memory at XMP with no errors on 1000% memtest pass... If anyone is familar with this pls let me know

pale mist Dec 7, 2020, 11:21 PM

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uuh cant say i have seen that

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the only thing I could think of is a power supply issue

neat estuary Dec 7, 2020, 11:22 PM

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Ya they have diffrent PSUs and are in diffrent houses

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Im suspecting a bios C-state issue and have disabled it on one today to troubleshoot.. Im seeing issues like this on Asus Forum with no answers

gritty meadow Dec 7, 2020, 11:28 PM

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because its notoriously hard to actually track @neat estuary

empty urchin Dec 8, 2020, 12:37 AM

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anyone know a website like EVGA that lets you get into a queue to buy the new ryzen processors?

azure pulsar Dec 8, 2020, 12:38 AM

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b550 aorus pro ac also has onboard wifi and usb c

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😳

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poggers mobo

daring arrow Dec 8, 2020, 12:54 AM

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Good evening. Im getting an ff code on my mobo, but the pc is running fine. Any ideas?

fallen lynx Dec 8, 2020, 12:59 AM

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look up what the code means

daring arrow Dec 8, 2020, 1:01 AM

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Fault found. Everything I've read says that their pc won't boot. Mine is fine.

neat estuary Dec 8, 2020, 1:07 AM

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u sure it isnt transfer to OS code?

ornate juniper Dec 8, 2020, 1:38 AM

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What is a good mobo to pair with the 5800x?

pale mist Dec 8, 2020, 1:39 AM

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the Asus Tuf x570 is a classic choice @ornate juniper

ornate juniper Dec 8, 2020, 1:44 AM

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Thanks

azure pulsar Dec 8, 2020, 1:55 AM

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@ornate juniper b550 aorus boards are all good

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if you dont need onboard wifi then the b550 aorus elite is a good one

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but if you do, the b550 aorus pro ac is also epic

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all of them come with flashback so you can update the bios if necessary

quartz niche Dec 8, 2020, 2:01 AM

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Hello, I have a question about RAM. So I am looking at a G.skill TridentZ RGB 2x16 kit, but see multiple "models" or variants and was wondering if anyone can tell me what the changes means. I think I have a decent understanding for the frequency, but I see this "latency" that I am unaware of and was wondering if anyone can help me better understand it as well as the "Real World" impact it has on applications.

azure pulsar Dec 8, 2020, 2:06 AM

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latency just impacts the speed

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less latency = better

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so lets say its ddr4 3600 cl18 vs ddr4 3600 cl16

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the cl16 has less latency so its better

quartz niche Dec 8, 2020, 2:07 AM

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For farther context here are the two models as shown in pcpartpicker:

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i cant seem to send pictures so nevermind 😅

azure pulsar Dec 8, 2020, 2:08 AM

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send the link

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s

quartz niche Dec 8, 2020, 2:09 AM

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https://pcpartpicker.com/product/jxH8TW/

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/6z6qqs/

azure pulsar Dec 8, 2020, 2:09 AM

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uh

quartz niche Dec 8, 2020, 2:09 AM

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its a 50ish dollars difference and i was wondering how much of a performance boost does the better timing have against the other

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idk if im just being very picky and shouldnt worry about it

azure pulsar Dec 8, 2020, 2:10 AM

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its pretty much the same thing

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and its such a steep price increase

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i say just get the cheaper one

quartz niche Dec 8, 2020, 2:10 AM

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really? damn, then here i am trying to find info on it for nothing xD

azure pulsar Dec 8, 2020, 2:10 AM

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lol

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yeah the timing isnt supre important

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more just first word latency, cas latency, and speed

quartz niche Dec 8, 2020, 2:10 AM

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azure pulsar i say just get the cheaper one

perfect lol

quartz niche Dec 8, 2020, 2:11 AM

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azure pulsar more just first word latency, cas latency, and speed

lost me there too but i'm just going to say okay 😂

azure pulsar Dec 8, 2020, 2:11 AM

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ah lol

quartz niche Dec 8, 2020, 2:13 AM

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also, since u mentioned it, and if you dont mind, is there a big difference between CL18 and CL16?

azure pulsar Dec 8, 2020, 2:13 AM

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sort of but not rly

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yours is cl16 tho so ur fine

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and 8.89 first word latency so its pretty good

quartz niche Dec 8, 2020, 2:14 AM

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okay

azure pulsar Dec 8, 2020, 2:14 AM

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this chart can kind of show u what to look for

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quartz niche Dec 8, 2020, 2:14 AM

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thank you very much!

azure pulsar Dec 8, 2020, 2:14 AM

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its kind of bad quality but

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in the pinned messages

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the original image zooms in more

quartz niche Dec 8, 2020, 2:16 AM

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oh wow thanks!

trim mauve Dec 8, 2020, 3:05 AM

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I had issues with my whole pc lagging everywhere after a windows update, and after 4 hours i got it restored back and fixed, but in one specific game, i still lag very often and ive never done this before, i think it has to be my cpu, but does anyone know how to fix this? it only happens in that game, no other games and not while using the computer normally?

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the game is overwatch btw

vital vine Dec 8, 2020, 3:50 AM

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try and download HW monitor. See if it's throttling, the cpu or gpu

visual marten Dec 8, 2020, 4:11 AM

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best mobo for maximum $250 for ryzen 7 5800x

eager shore Dec 8, 2020, 4:19 AM

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you looking for any specific features?

visual marten Dec 8, 2020, 4:20 AM

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@eager shore just good cooling and good mobo overall

eager shore Dec 8, 2020, 4:23 AM

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ah, in that case a cheap one that does the job well is a b550-a pro

visual marten Dec 8, 2020, 4:26 AM

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eager shore ah, in that case a cheap one that does the job well is a b550-a pro

people also say the Gigabyte B550 Aorus pro is also a good option

eager shore Dec 8, 2020, 4:26 AM

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yeah it is

azure pulsar Dec 8, 2020, 4:29 AM

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aorus mobos are rad

trim mauve Dec 8, 2020, 4:54 AM

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@vital vine im not throttling, my gpu and cpu never go above 70 C

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like rarely, and i was playing red dead redemption with medium settings

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and on overwatch i use all low settings, so it cant be worse

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idk what it is, all my other games are fine. even though they have higher settings

green terrace Dec 8, 2020, 5:22 AM

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main pulsar Dec 8, 2020, 5:24 AM

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you call 8 dollars overspending?

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ok buddy

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also, i really dont trust a word that comes out of this dudes mouth

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go find a GN vid on it, sheesh, you people gobble up all these clickbait tubers like candy

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9IY_KlkQK1Q

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heady marten Dec 8, 2020, 5:49 AM

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@green terrace

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ryzen 5000 only man

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and scalper prices are way too high right now

naive pendant Dec 8, 2020, 6:22 AM

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can someone explain to me the difference between these

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sudden onyx Dec 8, 2020, 6:26 AM

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Well, since I recently got into PCs but I have been around the whole physics stuff, it says that the frequency is 2.3 times faster than when you got it. I don't know if that's called an overclock but it's definitely better than when it was stock

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But well, I still don't know anything about that type of stuff so better ask someone who has the knowledge

naive pendant Dec 8, 2020, 7:43 AM

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I haven't overclocked it

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I don't even know how

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it's an i7 tenth gen cpu in an msi laptop

neat estuary Dec 8, 2020, 9:01 AM

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It’s the boost clock. It’s normal.

gritty meadow Dec 8, 2020, 9:53 AM

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@naive pendant when the cpu has thermal headroom, it will run faster than the stock, it will keep on doing that, until it gets too hot, then it will clock down to something closer to stock or stock.

ember scroll Dec 8, 2020, 1:26 PM

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I have a question for a smarter person than I, I have https://www.newegg.com/g-skill-16gb-288-pin-ddr4-sdram/p/N82E16820232880 but I was wondering if this https://www.newegg.com/g-skill-32gb-288-pin-ddr4-sdram/p/N82E16820232863?Item=N82E16820232863 would give me any improvement. I have a 10850k tomahawk z490

slate night Dec 8, 2020, 2:11 PM

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@ember scroll just buy an other kit of 16gb g skill

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if you have 4 ram slots on your mother board

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because theres no difference between the two other than rgb

ember scroll Dec 8, 2020, 2:23 PM

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Figured. Just a 200$ aesthetic

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Thanks!

fierce pumice Dec 8, 2020, 3:43 PM

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hey so i have an amd rx 460

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and i need a new cpu

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are there any combos for that

eager shore Dec 8, 2020, 3:44 PM

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what cpu do you currently have

fierce pumice Dec 8, 2020, 3:44 PM

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uhhh

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let me loook its a big name

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its rlly bad but

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CPU
Intel(R) Xeon(R) CPU X5677
@ 3.47GHz 4 Cores

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i believe thats from 2010

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and i hate it

eager shore Dec 8, 2020, 3:44 PM

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ahhh so you're also looking into getting a new motherboard?

fierce pumice Dec 8, 2020, 3:44 PM

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yes

eager shore Dec 8, 2020, 3:45 PM

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ok

fierce pumice Dec 8, 2020, 3:45 PM

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if i play games like

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and i have discord running

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or like at most 5 tabs on google

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my game gets choppy and i drop fps like by 50

eager shore Dec 8, 2020, 3:45 PM

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understandable

fierce pumice Dec 8, 2020, 3:46 PM

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can u think of anything that would help

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and im a gamer on a budget so

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anything affordable?

eager shore Dec 8, 2020, 3:47 PM

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how much are you willing to spend?

azure pulsar Dec 8, 2020, 3:47 PM

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whats da budget

fierce pumice Dec 8, 2020, 3:47 PM

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100-150

azure pulsar Dec 8, 2020, 3:47 PM

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holy

fierce pumice Dec 8, 2020, 3:48 PM

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200 at most

trim mauve Dec 8, 2020, 3:50 PM

#

I had issues with my whole pc lagging everywhere after a windows update, and after 4 hours i got it restored back and fixed, but in one specific game, i still lag very often and ive never done this before, i think it has to be my cpu, but does anyone know how to fix this? it only happens in that game, no other games and not while using the computer normally?

eager shore Dec 8, 2020, 3:50 PM

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fierce pumice 200 at most

mobo + cpu?

naive pendant Dec 8, 2020, 3:56 PM

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Thats a tiny budget if it's for a cpu+mobo.

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Also that xeon isn't bad aswell.

atomic haven Dec 8, 2020, 4:03 PM

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What is a good mobo for 5900x

eager shore Dec 8, 2020, 4:03 PM

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atomic haven What is a good mobo for 5900x

what kinda features you looking into?

atomic haven Dec 8, 2020, 4:04 PM

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Performance

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I only have a 400 budget for mobo

eager shore Dec 8, 2020, 4:05 PM

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dang that's a lot money for a mobo

atomic haven Dec 8, 2020, 4:05 PM

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Oh

eager shore Dec 8, 2020, 4:05 PM

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what system will you be running?

atomic haven Dec 8, 2020, 4:05 PM

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3080 and 5900x

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Windows

stark laurel Dec 8, 2020, 4:08 PM

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5800x is in stock on the AMD website right now

atomic haven Dec 8, 2020, 4:08 PM

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Really?

stark laurel Dec 8, 2020, 4:09 PM

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yeah

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just wanted to see, not getting one but I added it to my cart and got to checkout

eager shore Dec 8, 2020, 4:09 PM

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well to start off, there's the b550 aourus lineup, which are pretty solid boards, and a cheaper option might be the b550-a pro or the b550 gaming x

stark laurel Dec 8, 2020, 4:09 PM

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website says it is still in stock

atomic haven Dec 8, 2020, 4:10 PM

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Ok thank you

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They are out of stock now

atomic haven Dec 8, 2020, 4:10 PM

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eager shore well to start off, there's the b550 aourus lineup, which are pretty solid boards...

Thank you!

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Gigabyte B550 AORUS PRO ATX Motherboard

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This one?

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Or GIGABYTE B550 AORUS Master

eager shore Dec 8, 2020, 4:17 PM

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and also tbh it also depends on your needs and features you want

atomic haven Dec 8, 2020, 4:18 PM

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I need to be able to run vr, cod cw, warzone, and minecraft as well as school stuff

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Rainbow 6 and red dead 2

eager shore Dec 8, 2020, 4:21 PM

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ahhh so a small motherboard with some nice io is the b550m aorus pro

atomic haven Dec 8, 2020, 4:22 PM

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Okay I will check it out. Thanks

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How much ram is good for the cpu

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Dual channel

eager shore Dec 8, 2020, 4:24 PM

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tbh 16 gb will do for gaming

atomic haven Dec 8, 2020, 4:24 PM

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Ok

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Thank you. Have a good rest of your day!

eager shore Dec 8, 2020, 4:25 PM

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something like this https://pcpartpicker.com/product/2TFKHx/crucial-ballistix-16-gb-2-x-8-gb-ddr4-3600-memory-bl2k8g36c16u4b

Crucial Ballistix 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3600 CL16 Memory

atomic haven Dec 8, 2020, 4:30 PM

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Ok

summer abyss Dec 8, 2020, 5:05 PM

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can someone ELI5 me this? like how the new layout provides better performance

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harsh grotto Dec 8, 2020, 5:29 PM

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eager shore something like this https://pcpartpicker.com/product/2TFKHx/crucial-ballistix-16...

I was looking at that for my build but then I heard people say that g.skill and Corsair are the only ones that like test the ram out or something for ryzen chips. The. I got confused and added a trident z neo

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but the trident is 105$ and that kinda seems like a bit much for ram

eager shore Dec 8, 2020, 5:30 PM

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😳

fallen lynx Dec 8, 2020, 5:34 PM

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if hes got a $400 budget for a MB he can afford 32GB RAM

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16GB is sufficient for most games today but not for much longer

unreal lily Dec 8, 2020, 5:35 PM

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and newegg has https://www.newegg.com/g-skill-32gb-288-pin-ddr4-sdram/p/N82E16820232905?Item=N82E16820232905****

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what i bought for the 5900x i can't get

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very nice ram, markup is for lower latencies, but its also DUal Rank, so don't need to deal with 4 sticks

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(if you care about those things)

fallen lynx Dec 8, 2020, 5:36 PM

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@summer abyss on Zen 2 (left side) if a core connected to the bottom cache needs data from the top cache it takes a performance hit to get it. In zen3, all 8 cores have full access to all 32MB of the cache.

summer abyss Dec 8, 2020, 5:38 PM

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@fallen lynx aights thanks, and is that really big of a difference? also where do you typically notices such differences at play

fallen lynx Dec 8, 2020, 5:39 PM

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that is one of the things that contributes to the ~20% improvement in IPC between the generations

summer abyss Dec 8, 2020, 5:40 PM

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I see thanks

warm path Dec 8, 2020, 5:46 PM

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How different is the heat output from a 35 watt cpu compared to a 45 watt cpu? Just assume I am using the same stock cooler. Ping me if you have an answer.

fallen lynx Dec 8, 2020, 5:49 PM

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hardly anything

warm path Dec 8, 2020, 5:51 PM

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So your saying a 10 watt difference is not much?

fallen lynx Dec 8, 2020, 5:52 PM

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thats right

warm path Dec 8, 2020, 5:54 PM

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What if I jump from 35 watts to 65 watts?

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Would the difference still be small?

fallen lynx Dec 8, 2020, 6:00 PM

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its almost double

warm path Dec 8, 2020, 6:00 PM

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Hm

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Double the temp or 15 degrees C max?

fallen lynx Dec 8, 2020, 6:01 PM

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theres no way to know without knowing what CPU and cooler you currently have

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65 still isn't too high even though its almost double the 35w

warm path Dec 8, 2020, 6:02 PM

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I already said same stock cooler whole time.

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Maybe 50 watt on stock

fallen lynx Dec 8, 2020, 6:07 PM

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you haven't said what CPU you have, only asked questions about wattage

warm path Dec 8, 2020, 6:07 PM

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Yea

fallen lynx Dec 8, 2020, 6:07 PM

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so "stock cooler" doesn't really give any details

warm path Dec 8, 2020, 6:07 PM

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I am on a 35 watt intel cpu.

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using a 50 watt cooler

fallen lynx Dec 8, 2020, 6:09 PM

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well if the cooler is small enough that it can only handle 50w, then it will probably have trouble with 65

warm path Dec 8, 2020, 6:09 PM

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Yeah, but I won't be loading the 65 watt cpu much.

fallen lynx Dec 8, 2020, 6:10 PM

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at low usage it won't be using all of the 65w

naive pendant Dec 8, 2020, 6:18 PM

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warm path I am on a 35 watt intel cpu.

Laptop?

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Or pentium?

warm path Dec 8, 2020, 6:43 PM

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@naive pendant I am using a Pentium. They are real slow and bad.

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@fallen lynx I also heard a cpu won't use all of its tdp. Maybe it will only use 41-42 watts.

pastel monolith Dec 8, 2020, 6:51 PM

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thats true most of the time

warm path Dec 8, 2020, 6:52 PM

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So yeah, my 50 watt cooler can keep up most of the time when I do upgrade to a 65 watt i7-4790S.

pastel monolith Dec 8, 2020, 6:52 PM

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I would agree

warm path Dec 8, 2020, 6:52 PM

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Even a fully loaded 65 watt cpu uses only 42 watts right?

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Which means a TDP of 42 watts.

pastel monolith Dec 8, 2020, 6:53 PM

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well no if its fully loaded it will be closer to 55-60w

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usually have about 5-10w for overclocking headroom

warm path Dec 8, 2020, 6:53 PM

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I mean I did some research and it was closer to 45 watts.

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The extra 5-10 watts is for turbo boost?

pastel monolith Dec 8, 2020, 6:54 PM

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no im including turbo I mean additional manual overclocking

warm path Dec 8, 2020, 6:54 PM

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The CPU is a i7-4790S not a i7-4790K 🙂

pastel monolith Dec 8, 2020, 6:55 PM

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and your research is probably assuming all the cores in the cpu wont be at 100% very often at all hence their average number of 42-45w

warm path Dec 8, 2020, 6:55 PM

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Hm, ok.

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Still wondering why is Intel binning the Pentium CPUs to be slow and plain horrible.

pastel monolith Dec 8, 2020, 6:56 PM

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like unless you are putting a 3080 in there or planning to run cinebench over and over again you should be just fine

warm path Dec 8, 2020, 6:56 PM

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an AMD 3080 or a graphics card?

pastel monolith Dec 8, 2020, 6:56 PM

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gpu nvidia 3080

warm path Dec 8, 2020, 6:56 PM

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oh

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Yeah, these gpus do eat the cpu resources up.

pastel monolith Dec 8, 2020, 6:57 PM

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better gpu = more work for the cpu

warm path Dec 8, 2020, 6:57 PM

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mhm

pastel monolith Dec 8, 2020, 6:58 PM

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tdp is just the max it can draw wont usually do that

warm path Dec 8, 2020, 6:58 PM

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True

pastel monolith Dec 8, 2020, 6:59 PM

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like your wall outlets are rated for 110v -120v but you probably can only push through like 102v but its the peak rating not average

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same concept

warm path Dec 8, 2020, 7:00 PM

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Yeah, you are correct.

pastel monolith Dec 8, 2020, 7:01 PM

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a 4790S can still hang in there

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any older than the 4700 series I would say you need to upgrade soon

warm path Dec 8, 2020, 7:02 PM

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Technology advances real quick.

pastel monolith Dec 8, 2020, 7:04 PM

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moores law and all that

warm path Dec 8, 2020, 7:04 PM

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Yeah

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Intel and AMD is constantly moving to smaller transistor sizes and increases core counts/clock speed.

fleet anvil Dec 8, 2020, 7:05 PM

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I am looking to upgrade the memory and add a SSD to one of my nephew's Dell Latitude E6540 Laptop. It appears that there are many choices for potential CMS Products on the NewEgg site, I am am hoping to get Part Number recommendations before I purchase to make sure the parts are the correct ones right out of the box. Are there any NewEgg Support Technicians that can make these recommendations? (I was directed here from a NewEgg Chat session to obtain this information.)

warm path Dec 8, 2020, 7:06 PM

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hm

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I think I can help you with that.

pastel monolith Dec 8, 2020, 7:06 PM

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checking the manual

warm path Dec 8, 2020, 7:06 PM

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Same

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@fleet anvil are you looking for decent or max upgrade config?

fleet anvil Dec 8, 2020, 7:07 PM

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Considering the age of the system, I would probably go with decent unless the max is nearly the same price

warm path Dec 8, 2020, 7:07 PM

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What is your current drive and ram congif?

pastel monolith Dec 8, 2020, 7:09 PM

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so you can have up to 2 sticks of 8gb 1600mhz SODIMM 1.35v DDR3 ram

warm path Dec 8, 2020, 7:10 PM

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Yeah, he can

fleet anvil Dec 8, 2020, 7:11 PM

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256GB HDD and 4GB of Memory

pastel monolith Dec 8, 2020, 7:11 PM

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and a 2.5" SSD sata 6 hard drive

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so the best you could do is get 2 8gb 1600mhz sodimm 1.35v dd3 and any sata ssd that is 2.5" or smaller

warm path Dec 8, 2020, 7:12 PM

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Upgrade: MAX CONFIG

https://www.newegg.com/crucial-16gb-204-pin-ddr3-so-dimm/p/N82E16820148614?Description=crucial 16 GB DDR3L laptop&cm_re=crucial_16 GB DDR3L laptop-_-20-148-614-_-Product&quicklink=true

https://www.newegg.com/crucial-mx500-250gb/p/N82E16820156172?cstrackid=8b77092d-7b6b-4a37-9daf-dde1e133a4c0&utm_source=crucial&utm_medium=channelsight&utm_campaign=button&utm_content=8b77092d-7b6b-4a37-9daf-dde1e133a4c0

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You can always look for higher storage on the SSD.

pastel monolith Dec 8, 2020, 7:13 PM

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you could also just get 1 4gb 1600mhz sodimm 1.35v ddr3 to add to the 4gb you have to have 8gb which is double what it had although the max is 16gb

warm path Dec 8, 2020, 7:13 PM

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But 16 GB is highest memory supported.

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Yeah

wise jackal Dec 8, 2020, 7:14 PM

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helo

warm path Dec 8, 2020, 7:14 PM

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hi

wise jackal Dec 8, 2020, 7:14 PM

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what is the difference between the 10900k and the 10900f

fleet anvil Dec 8, 2020, 7:14 PM

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Yes, I have looked at quite a few options and it would appear that the CMS Memory & SSD would be the most cost effective and 16GB of memory and a 512GB 2.5" SATA III will be the way to go - just looking for part number recommendations to make sure I get the right thing the 1st time

warm path Dec 8, 2020, 7:14 PM

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The 10900k is unlocked and the 10900f is locked and is missing a igpu

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Oh

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Ok

pastel monolith Dec 8, 2020, 7:15 PM

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no

wise jackal Dec 8, 2020, 7:15 PM

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so if i get a 10900f is it bad

warm path Dec 8, 2020, 7:15 PM

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Not really

wise jackal Dec 8, 2020, 7:15 PM

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even if i dont want to overclock

warm path Dec 8, 2020, 7:15 PM

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If you arent overclocking you are fine.

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It is still good.

pastel monolith Dec 8, 2020, 7:15 PM

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10900f can be unlocked pretty easy and is almost identical to a 10900k

wise jackal Dec 8, 2020, 7:15 PM

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is it fast

warm path Dec 8, 2020, 7:15 PM

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Just make sure you get a gpu.

wise jackal Dec 8, 2020, 7:15 PM

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i will get a gpu

warm path Dec 8, 2020, 7:15 PM

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It is identical to the 10900

wise jackal Dec 8, 2020, 7:15 PM

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dedicated

warm path Dec 8, 2020, 7:15 PM

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So yes it is fast.

wise jackal Dec 8, 2020, 7:16 PM

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thanks

warm path Dec 8, 2020, 7:16 PM

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no problem

wise jackal Dec 8, 2020, 7:16 PM

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i salute you soldier

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https://tenor.com/view/respect-davis-boreanaz-salute-uniform-gif-11216021

Tenor

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if i get a prebiult

warm path Dec 8, 2020, 7:17 PM

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Thanks, I guss.

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?

wise jackal Dec 8, 2020, 7:17 PM

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with a 3070

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and i swap out for a ryzen 5 3500x

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will it bottleneck

warm path Dec 8, 2020, 7:18 PM

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Oh no, you got to swap out the entire motherboard also because the ryzen is amd and the i9-10900f is intel.

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And no there will be no bottleneck.

wise jackal Dec 8, 2020, 7:18 PM

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yeh i know

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what about a 3080

warm path Dec 8, 2020, 7:18 PM

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Not a much bottleneck, it is a 10th gen i9.

wise jackal Dec 8, 2020, 7:18 PM

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no..

warm path Dec 8, 2020, 7:18 PM

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Nope, barely any bottleneck.

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The 10900 can handle it.

wise jackal Dec 8, 2020, 7:18 PM

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thanks

warm path Dec 8, 2020, 7:19 PM

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No problem!

pastel monolith Dec 8, 2020, 7:20 PM

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3090 will bottleneck it 😦

wise jackal Dec 8, 2020, 7:20 PM

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obviously

warm path Dec 8, 2020, 7:20 PM

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Yeah

pastel monolith Dec 8, 2020, 7:21 PM

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but no affordable cpu out there that wont bottleneck the 3080/3090 a little bit

warm path Dec 8, 2020, 7:22 PM

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@fleet anvil are you ok with buying two quantities of 8GB RAM stick because CMS don't sell 16GB in a set.

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@wise jackal use this to calculate bottlenecks: https://pc-builds.com/calculator/

PC Builds

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Bottleneck Calculator - PC Builds

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fleet anvil Dec 8, 2020, 7:24 PM

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Thank you, I am signing off now

heady nacelle Dec 8, 2020, 7:44 PM

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gunna go ourt of stock soon https://www.amazon.com/gp/offer-listing/B08166SLDF/

violet zealot Dec 8, 2020, 7:52 PM

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Soon is an understatement phaWesker

heady nacelle Dec 8, 2020, 8:01 PM

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lol

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its gone

naive pendant Dec 8, 2020, 8:18 PM

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warm path <@!762580830630445107> use this to calculate bottlenecks: https://pc-builds.com/...

Not accurate site to check for bottlenecks

pearl zealot Dec 8, 2020, 8:57 PM

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I love how it told me my 3080 and 5800 was great for 1080p

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Cuz I wasn't sure

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:p

naive pendant Dec 8, 2020, 9:15 PM

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pearl zealot I love how it told me my 3080 and 5800 was great for 1080p

Thats kinda obvious...

pearl zealot Dec 8, 2020, 9:33 PM

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Yeah I know

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That's why I did the sarcasm below it

midnight pollen Dec 8, 2020, 9:36 PM

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No no 3080 only good for up to 480p

trim mauve Dec 8, 2020, 9:40 PM

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480 u mean 144

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Tf

azure pulsar Dec 8, 2020, 9:42 PM

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480p.

heady nacelle Dec 8, 2020, 9:51 PM

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AMD Ryzen 7 5800X 8-core, 16-Thread Unlocked in stock https://www.amazon.com/gp/offer-listing/B0815XFSGK/

brittle dock Dec 8, 2020, 10:58 PM

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in stock for outrageous price 😛

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might as well get i7-10700k for 50% less and similar performance

eager shore Dec 8, 2020, 10:59 PM

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ah, yes, 800 bucks for a 5800x

analog crater Dec 8, 2020, 11:04 PM

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anyone here know anything about the alienware aurora? 2010

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looking to upgrade the RAM on it and i could use some help with what to order

faint ferry Dec 8, 2020, 11:59 PM

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Is 3600 CL18 or 3200 CL 16 better for Ryzen?

heady root Dec 8, 2020, 11:59 PM

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pretty sure 3600 cl18 is slightly better, but get 3600 cl16 if you can

magic light Dec 9, 2020, 12:00 AM

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anyone know when the ryzen 5 3600 will restock nd be back t normal prices or any good substitutes for it?

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i got an rtx 3060ti to go with it rn

heady root Dec 9, 2020, 12:01 AM

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i've seen it relatively recently at best buy, randomly pops in at 200 for a little bit

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that's how i got mine

magic light Dec 9, 2020, 12:01 AM

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how often do they restock

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or how do you know when they restock

heady root Dec 9, 2020, 12:02 AM

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i don't know how often but it is worth checking occasionally

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also walmart tbh

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stock sometimes there

silk ice Dec 9, 2020, 12:27 AM

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Hey so I've heard a lot about people not liking MSI's bios is there a particular reason? I was able to find a pretty good deal on an MSI B550 board from a friend and was wondering if it was worth getting it from him.

green terrace Dec 9, 2020, 12:42 AM

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You go in the bios maybe twice unless you’re overclocking

brittle dock Dec 9, 2020, 12:44 AM

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^
only time ive ever gone into bios is when i first boot up pc to ensure hard drives and ram were detected...
and then a 2nd time to enable virtualization so i can run hyper-v lol

robust ermine Dec 9, 2020, 1:02 AM

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i never had any issues with msi bios

green terrace Dec 9, 2020, 1:28 AM

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I’ve heard more complaints about gigabyte honestly

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Not that it really matters

trim mauve Dec 9, 2020, 2:50 AM

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I have the asus tuff x570 and I like it a lot. I think the bios on other mobos is easier to understand and find your way around in, but overall the board is very nice for the price

devout fiber Dec 9, 2020, 3:15 AM

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Yo anyone using the MSI MPG B550 Gaming Carbon Wifi for their build? I need your experiences on it lmao

pale mist Dec 9, 2020, 3:19 AM

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@devout fiber using the same board minus the wifi and am loving it

devout fiber Dec 9, 2020, 3:24 AM

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Thanks for the review

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Anyone else?

silk ice Dec 9, 2020, 3:36 AM

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Can't remember what the other differences were but I do know that in Hardware Unboxed's testing found the VRM's performed worse than those on the Gaming Edge Wifi which is actually the cheaper board of the two

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Can't seem to attach the image let me see if i can find the video

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Can't link it, anyways the video is called "All Boards Tested B550 Roundup, Part 3 $180 - $300" from Hardware Unboxed

naive pendant Dec 9, 2020, 3:48 AM

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https://youtu.be/JxczZChFaZI

YouTube

Hardware Unboxed

All Boards Tested B550 Roundup, Part 3 $180 - $300

Join us on Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/hardwareunboxed

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MSI B550 Gaming Plus: https://amzn.to/3iKJJvC
MSI B550M Mortar: https://amzn.to/3iHjRke
Gigabyte B550 Gaming X: https://amzn.to/3h5jRu7
Gigabyte B550 Aorus Pro: https://amzn.to/2DQk7Pj
Asus TUF Gaming B550M-Plus: https://amzn.to/3h4urS5
Asrock B5...

▶ Play video

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Link here

hollow thorn Dec 9, 2020, 3:51 AM

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Smh just go Buildzoid if you're interested in VRMs

pliant cypress Dec 9, 2020, 3:52 AM

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(actually hardware overclocking is his channel)

silk ice Dec 9, 2020, 3:52 AM

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Thanks @naive pendant idk why I had issues with it

winged crater Dec 9, 2020, 3:54 AM

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wait, does gskill ripjaws work with and?!?

hollow thorn Dec 9, 2020, 3:55 AM

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why not

pale mist Dec 9, 2020, 4:00 AM

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Ram (while marketing sometimes gets annoying) is almost ALWAYS compatible inter-platform (remember that generation gaps and possible SI locks can change that)

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@winged crater

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all mainstream sticks from brands like that are inter platform compatible

hollow thorn Dec 9, 2020, 4:06 AM

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as long as the protocol match

stable timber Dec 9, 2020, 4:06 AM

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Uhh lads

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Did you see Intels 11th Gen benchmark?

prisma nymph Dec 9, 2020, 4:07 AM

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i feel like the maximus, master and taichi would be the easy winner in that video tho ;-;

winged crater Dec 9, 2020, 4:10 AM

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pale mist Ram (while marketing sometimes gets annoying) is almost ALWAYS compatible inter-...

oh okay, sounds great. thanks bro 😊

devout fiber Dec 9, 2020, 4:15 AM

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Thanks everyone❤❤

pale mist Dec 9, 2020, 4:31 AM

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@hollow thorn actually I have had protocols not work w each other bc of SI locks

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I have been fooled before by the sweet dreams of cheap ram

pastel monolith Dec 9, 2020, 4:34 AM

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gskill aegis is the best cheap ram I've had recently

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who needs heat spreaders when you have stickers that look like heat spreaders 😎

pale mist Dec 9, 2020, 4:35 AM

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Truth man whos profile looks like zoidburg from futureama

pastel monolith Dec 9, 2020, 4:35 AM

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LOL

terse forge Dec 9, 2020, 5:11 AM

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Need help just built a i9-9900k with asus z390-E board the fan lights come on but it doesn't post and fans do not spin

brittle dock Dec 9, 2020, 5:19 AM

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tough one. double check 24pin and 4/6 pin power connectors on motherboard... make sure u used standoffs... try only 1 stick of ram and disconnect hard drives to try to isolate issue

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could be a bad psu too ... if u happen to have another one try using it to see if at least the fans come on

eager shore Dec 9, 2020, 5:25 AM

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terse forge Need help just built a i9-9900k with asus z390-E board the fan lights come on bu...

how do you have your fan connectors configured?

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because if you have the led connectors connected to a controller with its own software and the fan connectors connected to the motherboard, it might be that your motherboard is not receiving any power, not sure if that makes sense

terse forge Dec 9, 2020, 5:26 AM

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The psu is a super flower brand new

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I have this little led switch

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📎 20201208_222659.jpg

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Could it be cmos and do I need to use the jumper things to clear it!

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?

brittle dock Dec 9, 2020, 5:28 AM

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cmos just holds bios info.. if youve never been in bios then its not likely

terse forge Dec 9, 2020, 5:28 AM

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I took the ram from my ryzen system.

eager shore Dec 9, 2020, 5:29 AM

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the ram shouldn't matter

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you could try to post with one stick at a time

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try to post using the igpu

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reconnect your connections

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and as trevor said, take away things that are unnecessary to post like drives, fans, etc, to narrow down any possible problem

brittle dock Dec 9, 2020, 5:31 AM

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what was the motherboard in your ryzen pc

terse forge Dec 9, 2020, 5:31 AM

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X470 msi pro carbon

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That mobo has some issues with pcie wifi cards and dropping the internet connection to kps

eager shore Dec 9, 2020, 5:32 AM

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sheesh

terse forge Dec 9, 2020, 5:32 AM

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Do I need to remove the name ssd

brittle dock Dec 9, 2020, 5:32 AM

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never used onboard wifi before always used USB lol

terse forge Dec 9, 2020, 5:32 AM

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It's possible.thag thing is defective

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Nvme*

brittle dock Dec 9, 2020, 5:33 AM

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unlikely..

terse forge Dec 9, 2020, 5:34 AM

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Do I need to put an non xmp profiled ram in?

brittle dock Dec 9, 2020, 5:35 AM

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the motherboard only supports the 9900k if the BIOS has been updated to version 1005

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or higher

eager shore Dec 9, 2020, 5:35 AM

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is it an old mobo?

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if it's new then i doubt you'll get a mobo with an old version, judging by how old the 9900k is

terse forge Dec 9, 2020, 5:38 AM

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Is it possible I need to get another intel chip just to troubleshoot?

brittle dock Dec 9, 2020, 5:38 AM

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it would be a major pain in the ass but yeah

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AMD has this program where, if you have an AMD cpu but cant boot into bios, they send you a cheap CPU that you can borrow so you can get in and update the bios, then you have to mail it back to them... i dont know if intel has something like that too

eager shore Dec 9, 2020, 5:40 AM

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yeah and also it doesn't have to be an expensive cpu whne doing that kinda stuff

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i think that you're able to use a pentium gold g5420 just to troubleshoot

terse forge Dec 9, 2020, 5:43 AM

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Well the fans are spinning I took out the cmos battery and put it back in

brittle dock Dec 9, 2020, 5:43 AM

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😮

eager shore Dec 9, 2020, 5:44 AM

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😳

brittle dock Dec 9, 2020, 5:45 AM

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that is strange ... but still no boot?

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Tom's Hardware Forum

Computer won't boot and mobo fans not spinning

Hi, I am having a problem with my computer. It is fairly new (built it a couple of weeks ago) and it won't boot. It was running fine, with no hiccups, until it just randomly shut off and when restarting, it will not boot or power monitor and the fans that are connected to the motherboard don't...

terse forge Dec 9, 2020, 5:48 AM

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Can I just use the wires already plugged in with the other psu I have a evga I can use

brittle dock Dec 9, 2020, 5:50 AM

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not sure what you mean ... are they both fully modular psu's?

green terrace Dec 9, 2020, 5:50 AM

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Just to check because I can’t see

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You do have 12V connected yes?

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It’s a 4 or 8 pin on the motherboard

brittle dock Dec 9, 2020, 5:51 AM

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yea hard to see... cuz the heatsink blocking view

terse forge Dec 9, 2020, 5:52 AM

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4 pin

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8

green terrace Dec 9, 2020, 5:52 AM

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Right usually they are 4

terse forge Dec 9, 2020, 5:52 AM

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I used this cable

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📎 20201208_225302.jpg

green terrace Dec 9, 2020, 5:53 AM

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Ok... when you turn it on is there a post code?

terse forge Dec 9, 2020, 5:53 AM

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No

green terrace Dec 9, 2020, 5:53 AM

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There should be a led somewhere

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Hmm

terse forge Dec 9, 2020, 5:54 AM

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How do you clear cmos without the jumper caps

green terrace Dec 9, 2020, 5:54 AM

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Take out the battery

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Put it back in

terse forge Dec 9, 2020, 5:54 AM

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For how long?

green terrace Dec 9, 2020, 5:54 AM

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It’s a little coin cell

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Idk, 30 seconds

terse forge Dec 9, 2020, 5:56 AM

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Pretty sure these are jumper caps

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📎 20201208_225703.jpg

brittle dock Dec 9, 2020, 6:00 AM

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from ur manual:

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📎 unknown.png

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📎 unknown.png

terse forge Dec 9, 2020, 6:02 AM

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I put the little thing in the picture on that

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Did it for 20 secs took out the cmos battery and unplugged but still won't post

brittle dock Dec 9, 2020, 6:02 AM

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cmos battery should be in while u short it

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power unplugged but battery in

terse forge Dec 9, 2020, 6:05 AM

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I wonder if it's the pins that were a little bent but I don't really see that as an issue

brittle dock Dec 9, 2020, 6:06 AM

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😦

terse forge Dec 9, 2020, 6:07 AM

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I don't think it's the monitor

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So the next steps are to get a new batt, reset ram to non xmp, try a new power supply, try a new cpu, cry if nothing works

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How can the fans be spinning if the CPU is bad

brittle dock Dec 9, 2020, 6:08 AM

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xmp settings are stored in the BIOS or auto-detected by the motherboard if supported

terse forge Dec 9, 2020, 6:08 AM

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I meant psu

brittle dock Dec 9, 2020, 6:09 AM

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could be supplying just enough power to get the fans moving

terse forge Dec 9, 2020, 6:10 AM

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Let me get a new batt if that doesn't work I will try my battle hardened psu the evga 850 gold though super is their oem

brittle dock Dec 9, 2020, 6:10 AM

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let us know how it goes

devout mothBOT Dec 9, 2020, 6:11 AM

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OmegaFruitPunch#8991 has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

terse forge Dec 9, 2020, 6:11 AM

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Could it be the mobo is not working I know the cpu works

brittle dock Dec 9, 2020, 6:12 AM

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thats possible too... i had a gigabyte motherboard that died... fans spun but monitor wanted to act like it was in sleep mode... rma'd it with the same exact motherboard and everything was working again

terse forge Dec 9, 2020, 6:17 AM

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Does it matter if I use the cables.from superflower for my evga

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Psu

terse forge Dec 9, 2020, 6:37 AM

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Z390 should support the i9 without a bios update

naive pendant Dec 9, 2020, 7:38 AM

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Team T-Force, Corsair Vengeance RGB or other for memory? I’m not experienced so just asking for my first build.

boreal zenith Dec 9, 2020, 7:49 AM

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idk

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I'd check the compatibility list first and then recommended speed for you cpu and then smth with good cl, after that its just aesthetics

naive pendant Dec 9, 2020, 8:14 AM

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Thanks, just checked.

boreal zenith Dec 9, 2020, 8:41 AM

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no worriessss

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peepoSadSip i can't get my new ram to post i might have to return

pastel monolith Dec 9, 2020, 9:10 AM

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is xmp on?

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I always turn it off when installing new ram then turn it back on

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sometimes it holds old values

boreal zenith Dec 9, 2020, 9:11 AM

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i've tried it on/off

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i've tried setting the timings/speed/voltage manually

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peepoSadSip it's 4000mhz and the highest i can get it to post at is 2133

pastel monolith Dec 9, 2020, 9:19 AM

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so it does post

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just wont clock to 4000mhz

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AMD?

boreal zenith Dec 9, 2020, 9:22 AM

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yea

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:c amd is tilting me

cinder sphinx Dec 9, 2020, 10:16 AM

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how do i check what bios version of a mobo without cpu? mobo is msi mag x570 tomahawk wifi

boreal zenith Dec 9, 2020, 10:19 AM

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https://www.msi.com/Motherboard/support/MAG-X570-TOMAHAWK-WIFI

Welcome to the MSI Global official site. We are the top Gaming gear provider.

meager river Dec 9, 2020, 10:28 AM

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So, at my motherboards manifacturer's site (ASUS), they posted a new bios update for my x470-mobo that states the following:
"1.New CPU support
2.Offer a Re-size BAR Support option to enhance GPU performance.
3. Remove AMD 7th Gen A-series/ Athlon X4 Processors support"
Does this mean that it's updated the bios to support 5000-series processors?

stray sandal Dec 9, 2020, 10:30 AM

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yes

meager river Dec 9, 2020, 10:30 AM

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Pog

naive pendant Dec 9, 2020, 10:30 AM

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pog

boreal zenith Dec 9, 2020, 10:53 AM

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update: i spent more time trying to get my ram to post bc i didn't wanna pay restocking fee and finally got it to work properly

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🤔 now what to do with old ram, idk if it's even worth trying to sell

trim mauve Dec 9, 2020, 11:57 AM

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What is it? U may as well try to sell it

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With Covid happening I’m sure any half decent parts will sell rn lol

boreal zenith Dec 9, 2020, 11:59 AM

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https://www.newegg.ca/g-skill-16gb-288-pin-ddr4-sdram/p/N82E16820232530

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it's this, i'm just not sure if it's worth the effort of going through facebook market place or stuff like that if no ones gonna buy it bc it's 3200mhz

spare gyro Dec 9, 2020, 12:28 PM

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Asus posted a beta bios for the b450f gaming for zen3.

naive pendant Dec 9, 2020, 12:28 PM

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bruh a lot of people still buy 3200 mhz kits

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you should still try to sell the ram @boreal zenith

boreal zenith Dec 9, 2020, 12:31 PM

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okay I'll give it a shot tmrw ty

naive pendant Dec 9, 2020, 12:38 PM

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np

trim mauve Dec 9, 2020, 12:40 PM

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Yea

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LMAO

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3200 is very very valid still

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People aren’t really pushing past 3600 unless they have too, and at that it’s only gonna be decent with a Ryzen chip since Intel doesn’t benefit off higher speeds like Ryzen does

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Maybe with the Ryzen 5000 series, getting in to the 4 thousands for ram speeds will be common and relevant?!

boreal zenith Dec 9, 2020, 1:12 PM

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well

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i know for 5900x/5950x cpu that they recommend 4000mhz

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so i bought 4x8 gb of that

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but obvs can't use my 3200 sticks anymore

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by they i mean amd

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idk if anyone has done they own testing but ram gets expensive anyways 4000mhz and up

hollow thorn Dec 9, 2020, 1:17 PM

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What

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They do?

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Afaik 3800 is still the highest IF will let you run at 1:1

boreal zenith Dec 9, 2020, 1:23 PM

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yea last time i searched

trim mauve Dec 9, 2020, 1:23 PM

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If your mobo only supports dual channel, and u have 4 sticks, doesn’t the frequency of each stick decrease in half.

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By*

boreal zenith Dec 9, 2020, 1:24 PM

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i think so?

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dual channel though kekw

trim mauve Dec 9, 2020, 1:25 PM

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LMAO

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imagine using dual channel

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KEKW

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Couldn’t be me

hollow thorn Dec 9, 2020, 1:26 PM

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What

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@trim mauve no

trim mauve Dec 9, 2020, 1:26 PM

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So it doesn’t split in half

hollow thorn Dec 9, 2020, 1:27 PM

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It doesn't

trim mauve Dec 9, 2020, 1:29 PM

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Ok coolio

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I feel better now LMAO

boreal zenith Dec 9, 2020, 1:29 PM

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yea thats what i said

trim mauve Dec 9, 2020, 1:29 PM

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my task manager says my ram is at 3600, but my nzxt case software says each stick is at like 1787 or something like that, and that’s basically half of 3600

boreal zenith Dec 9, 2020, 1:30 PM

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i think so = no

trim mauve Dec 9, 2020, 1:30 PM

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LMAO

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yea for sure ;)

hollow thorn Dec 9, 2020, 1:30 PM

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Because that's the actual operating frequency

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Software like CPUz will tell you the actual operating frequency

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The transfer rate on DoubleDataRate memory is double the frequency

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That's where the 3600MT/s comes from

trim mauve Dec 9, 2020, 1:31 PM

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So if it was dual channel would the operating frequency be 3600? (Sorry I’m super stupid)

hollow thorn Dec 9, 2020, 1:32 PM

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No

trim mauve Dec 9, 2020, 1:32 PM

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Oh ok

hollow thorn Dec 9, 2020, 1:32 PM

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Dual channel doesn't eat frequency like that

trim mauve Dec 9, 2020, 1:32 PM

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Sounds good!

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Thanks

hollow thorn Dec 9, 2020, 1:32 PM

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Yw

devout fiber Dec 9, 2020, 2:27 PM

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My mobo has a bent pin on one of the fan headers

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Not the cpu fan header but like the case fan headers

gritty meadow Dec 9, 2020, 2:28 PM

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as long as its just bent

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and not touching something else

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it does not matter

devout fiber Dec 9, 2020, 2:28 PM

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So i can align it back?

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With like my fingers?

gritty meadow Dec 9, 2020, 2:31 PM

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if you can get access with your fingers? sure

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a small set of pliers or a tweezer would most likely be easier

devout fiber Dec 9, 2020, 2:32 PM

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I just did

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And i didnt break anything

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Phew

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Thanks for the help tho

gritty meadow Dec 9, 2020, 2:32 PM

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those pins are fairly durable :)

devout fiber Dec 9, 2020, 2:32 PM

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Still questioning why theyre bent bruh

gritty meadow Dec 9, 2020, 2:34 PM

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thats between you and the pins

pastel monolith Dec 9, 2020, 2:34 PM

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hard to tell manufacturing, shipping, you anyone could be responsible

gritty meadow Dec 9, 2020, 2:34 PM

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i dont want to get involved in a lovers quarrel like that

trim mauve Dec 9, 2020, 2:36 PM

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Imagine booting your first build and finding out a CPU pin came off PepeHands

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That was me a year ago with my Ryzen 3 2200g KEKW

pastel monolith Dec 9, 2020, 2:39 PM

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thats terrible

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I thought I killed a 10980XE one time but I just destroyed the brushy pins on the motherboard....

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not even my $1000 cpu lol

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was "helping" a buddy

trim mauve Dec 9, 2020, 2:44 PM

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F

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That sucks for him KEKW

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I feel confident in everything I do on my brothers pc, but I get so nervous about anything I do on mine

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Like legit everting that isn’t playing a game, or using an application I have installed

devout fiber Dec 9, 2020, 2:51 PM

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I dont want my first build to be my worst build lmao

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I know what to do but do i have the guts to do it

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Dont*

trim mauve Dec 9, 2020, 2:59 PM

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U can do it

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It’s easier than u think

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Hardest part is running into the issues that relay only to your parts. And u have to figure it out yourself

devout fiber Dec 9, 2020, 3:01 PM

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Is it okay to like touch the back of the motherboard, cuz sometimes i need to when i like carry it out of the box

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And pull it out of the static bag

gritty meadow Dec 9, 2020, 3:03 PM

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@devout fiber generally yes, try and stick to the edges of the board

trim mauve Dec 9, 2020, 3:04 PM

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Yessir

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^^

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I thought u couldn’t touch the back at all, and then I almost dropped my x570 board cause of it

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Oof

warped scroll Dec 9, 2020, 3:36 PM

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Bruh what

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I basically give all my motherboards a full pat down

devout fiber Dec 9, 2020, 3:47 PM

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thanks for the help y'all ❤️

trim mauve Dec 9, 2020, 3:53 PM

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devout fiber thanks for the help y'all ❤️

Yw peepoLove

hidden monolith Dec 9, 2020, 4:36 PM

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Im getting a ryzen 5800x and msi b550 tomohawk for my next build, and have this ram currently: https://www.newegg.com/g-skill-16gb-288-pin-ddr4-sdram/p/N82E16820232476. Will this work with my ryzen chip? and if it will, would it be worth it to upgrade to something like this: https://www.newegg.com/g-skill-16gb-288-pin-ddr4-sdram/p/N82E16820232859?

fallen lynx Dec 9, 2020, 4:49 PM

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the Neo version was specially made so ryzen has less problems detecting it during POST, so you would be a little safer getting that type

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but the first one SHOULD work

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also try for 32GB if you can fit it in your budget

hidden monolith Dec 9, 2020, 4:51 PM

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Is 32 actually worth it tho? like will it make much of a difference ?

boreal zenith Dec 9, 2020, 4:52 PM

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yea

inner relic Dec 9, 2020, 4:53 PM

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i was thinking about a new mobo with 4 ram slots instead of 2 and 2 m.2 slots instead of 1 looking for one from the price of 100-160 any recomendations

boreal zenith Dec 9, 2020, 4:53 PM

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there's a chart in the pins thats helpful for that

pearl zealot Dec 9, 2020, 4:55 PM

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Careful about using 2 m.2, some motherboards have the second m.2 either disable or share throughput with some other busses. Make sure to read the manual

inner relic Dec 9, 2020, 4:55 PM

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ok thanks

manic forge Dec 9, 2020, 5:11 PM

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Hi, following up on my issue with an Asus Tuf gaming z490 (wifi). I have a pair of G.SKILL Ripjaws V Series 32GB (2 x 16GB) 288-Pin DDR4 SDRAM DDR4 3200 (PC4 25600).

I can boot just fine with one installed, can't boot with 2. I reset CMOS by short cutting the 2 pins on the MOBO, removed / put back MOBO battery, tried all possible combination on memory installation... no luck.

I am also unable to activate XMP with even 1 stick installed.

eager shore Dec 9, 2020, 5:12 PM

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have you tried testing each module independently ?

manic forge Dec 9, 2020, 5:12 PM

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Yes, working fine

hollow thorn Dec 9, 2020, 5:15 PM

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@manic forge tried testing each stick with memtest86 or a similar tool?

manic forge Dec 9, 2020, 5:15 PM

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not yet indeed

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I can try than

hollow thorn Dec 9, 2020, 5:15 PM

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(that'll tell us if the stick themselves are at fault)

fallen jungle Dec 9, 2020, 6:09 PM

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The Ryzen 7 3700x is a really good cpu, right?

fallen lynx Dec 9, 2020, 6:11 PM

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yes

pliant cypress Dec 9, 2020, 6:12 PM

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midrange I'd call it

fallen jungle Dec 9, 2020, 6:15 PM

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awesome thank you 🙂

trim mauve Dec 9, 2020, 6:52 PM

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its best price to performance imo twinky

pliant cypress Dec 9, 2020, 6:53 PM

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3600 is better price to performance

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3700x is just very slightly faster with an extra 2c 4t

prisma nymph Dec 9, 2020, 7:53 PM

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3600 is king

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2600 is technically price to perf king tho

violet zealot Dec 9, 2020, 7:57 PM

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It was when you could get it brand new for $120 for a bit last year I think, personally I got it for $150 last year in the summer though. Pretty good I think

naive pendant Dec 9, 2020, 8:11 PM

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prisma nymph 3600 is king

It was
Rn it's pretty bad value & stock compared to intel 10th gen

fresh wren Dec 9, 2020, 8:17 PM

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anyone here with a 5xxx series processor see higher than advertised boost clocks?

pale mist Dec 9, 2020, 8:23 PM

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Not for a couple months

fresh wren Dec 9, 2020, 8:37 PM

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What do you mean?

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It's only been out for a month

azure pulsar Dec 9, 2020, 9:31 PM

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v

atomic haven Dec 9, 2020, 10:06 PM

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If I get a 3080 Fe and I have $2300usd left what cpu and mobo should I get.?

heady root Dec 9, 2020, 10:07 PM

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if you're just gaming a 5600x works

atomic haven Dec 9, 2020, 10:08 PM

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Okay.

violet zealot Dec 9, 2020, 10:09 PM

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I mean since you have the budget get the 5900X

atomic haven Dec 9, 2020, 10:09 PM

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Okay thank you for your help.

naive pendant Dec 9, 2020, 11:26 PM

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5900x is really overkill for gaming but uh...if the money is not a issue, a 5900x could do.

violet zealot Dec 9, 2020, 11:28 PM

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As I see it, 6 cores is the absolute minimum. If you're just gaming then it's fine for now, but I don't think it will be adequate for too much longer

naive pendant Dec 9, 2020, 11:30 PM

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violet zealot As I see it, 6 cores is the absolute minimum. If you're just gaming then it's fi...

You kinda right but i would save money for am5 though

violet zealot Dec 9, 2020, 11:32 PM

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I don't think it will be worth upgrading to from Zen 3

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Sure you could save about $250 now, and in two years upgrade but swapping out the motherboard, RAM and the CPU is gonna be more expensive as it is. So it's better to spend a bit more now and have a CPU that's plenty fast for honestly I would say easily 5 years

naive pendant Dec 9, 2020, 11:36 PM

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Well...i guess that depends on person
The highest i would go is 5800x
It should hold for years

violet zealot Dec 9, 2020, 11:36 PM

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It does depend on the person yeah

naive pendant Dec 9, 2020, 11:36 PM

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Unless we get another core increase like what happened when amd came with ryzen

violet zealot Dec 9, 2020, 11:36 PM

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I still think the 5900X is the better buy over the 5800X though since it is literally only $100 more and you get 50% more cores

naive pendant Dec 9, 2020, 11:38 PM

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Didn't pay much attetion to the 50xx X price though

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I am.more interesed on the G series and the non X series...

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I wonder if amd gonna release a non X 50xx

violet zealot Dec 9, 2020, 11:39 PM

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Yeah there was mention of a 5600 for 229 coming out next quarter

naive pendant Dec 9, 2020, 11:39 PM

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Nice

violet zealot Dec 9, 2020, 11:40 PM

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Nothing on a cheaper 8 core option though, I would think they would put one out though

naive pendant Dec 9, 2020, 11:41 PM

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I wonder if amd gonna release the budget apus on 50xx series

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Or they gonna like

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Wait for ddr5

violet zealot Dec 9, 2020, 11:41 PM

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The Zen2 APUs stayed in the OEM market only

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I don't know if that means anything for future releases though

naive pendant Dec 9, 2020, 11:42 PM

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Yeah, 4000g series was oem only

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I am still waiting to see 50xxg

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Also intel should step up their game and introduce the xe max on their core I3s but might take too much space i guess.

terse crater Dec 10, 2020, 12:02 AM

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what's a good m-atx board for a 5600x

hollow thorn Dec 10, 2020, 12:03 AM

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What's the budget?

terse crater Dec 10, 2020, 12:03 AM

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as long as it doesnt go over 200 dollars