#cpus-mobo-and-memory

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dire wharf
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Idk I guess not lol don't know anything about wifi cards tbh

rose sonnet
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Its intel duo

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For server

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I found it

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Now I buy it

digital kernel
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I don't know much about wifi cards either, but my guess is you'll have better luck finding a gigabit capable card with a pcie x1 form factor

gritty patio
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Yeah I wouldn't waste the m.2 slot when they won't hinder the performance like they did on b450

icy juniper
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Hey guys, I'm starting my second build now. I had a good amount of spare money for the first one and just went for a Rog Strix X570.

neat glacier
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nice

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what cpu?

icy juniper
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I'm using a Ryzen 5 with a 2070 super, but I was wondering what (more budget) motherboard would you guys recommend?

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I was thinking of getting the Asus Prime X570 Pro which is a solid 200 usd less

neat glacier
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woooooahhhhh

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@icy juniper

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this is my rule of thumb when it comes to building a pc-

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your mobo should cost just about less than or equal to half the price of the cpu

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if it doesn't, then invest in a better cpu with the excess money from the mobo

icy juniper
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@neat glacier I was trying to go way over my head on the mobo to leave a lot of room for upgrading in the future

neat glacier
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@icy juniper mind if u send me the build? I can help you out, maybe make some edits for a future proofed build

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also need budget and usage

icy juniper
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For sure @neat glacier

naive pendant
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Is 1x8 or 2x4 better for RAM

neat glacier
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@naive pendant 2x4

warped scroll
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Single stick < two sticks < 4 sticks

midnight pollen
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< 8 stick < 16 sticks

warped scroll
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And etc

neat glacier
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< 32 sticks

warped scroll
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< 64 sticks < 128 sticks < 256 sticks

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Lol

sick raven
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Hey, I've got a quick question for you guys. I'm looking at getting the GIGABYTE B450 AUROS ELITE AM4 AMD B450 SATA 6Gb/s ATX AMD Motherboard from Newegg and wasn't sure if it would have the BIOS to support Ryzen 3000 series CPUs. Does anybody know if it will?

tacit hemlock
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It will

sick raven
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Nice! Thanks

naive pendant
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so the b450 tomahawk is now $250, up $125 from last weeks $124.99

charred venture
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reasonable

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microcenter has mobos back in stock tho

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with the XT processors as well

naive pendant
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something is up with pcpartpicker

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now it's listing it as $124

long geyser
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it's a bad board for the price anyways

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so meh

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whether $125 or $250, both options are overpriced

void egret
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hey I'm pretty new to building computers I was just wondering if any one could explain how a more expensive motherboard might help my computer in any way

wintry rose
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I think it depends on what you are trying to do with your PC

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Some offer more options to add stuff to it

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Sorry pretty basic answer but thats the best I got off the top of my head lol

long geyser
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depends on what you want:
-Better VRMs (power delivery) for OCing (overclocking)
-better BIOS with more features (like LLC [load line calibration] for OCing, Infinity Fabric OCing, etc)
-WiFi
-better sound processing unit
-more NVMe M2 ports
-more SATA ports
-more USB ports
-more PCIe ports
-10Gbe networking
-dual RJ45 ports (ethernet port)

Plus a lot more. It depends on what you are doing and what your needs are. It'll usually not make a difference for a standard consumer

hollow thorn
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But a decent board will do just fine for most people

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As long as a board is decent, incremental gains are meaningless

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For example, 1.5gb to 10gb lan doesn't matter to most people

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like 8 stages vs 12 stages doesn't matter unless you do OC

wintry rose
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More stages = more OC?

hollow thorn
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not directly

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just means more possible power

tranquil wolf
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Bought an msi mpg z390 gaming edge ac mobo today, swapped it in with my i5 9600k and 32gb 3200 ram, now if i have the xmp on it today random bsod

hollow thorn
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random bsod is random

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doesn't point to anything

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it could be anything at all

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what is the stop code

tranquil wolf
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It's never the same, one was Kernal mode heap corruption, one was kmode exception not handled, one was system service exception, last one i noted was Kernal security check failure

hollow thorn
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General fix for random windows problems

From an admin command prompt or powershell, run:

sfc /scannow

If that doesn't work, try:

dism /online /cleanup-image /checkhealth
dism /online /cleanup-image /scanhealth
dism /online /cleanup-image /restorehealth

Then, try running sfc again.
Repeat as necessary

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those are just random bsods that can be involved with just software

tranquil wolf
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Yet it only happens if the xmp is turned on

hollow thorn
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just try it

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Get that out of the way first

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windows is buggy

tranquil wolf
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Even with a fresh windows install?

hollow thorn
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sometimes yea

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its just wacky

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Better check software before hardware and before considering RMAs

tranquil wolf
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The only new hardware is the mobo, and that store is 1.5hrs away lol

mild jackal
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What sticks? Sometimes xmp doesn't work out of the box.

tranquil wolf
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Corsair vengeance

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4x8gb

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If i leave the BIOS default i am fine, if i go into BIOS and turn on xmp and reboot it shows they are 3200 but then 1 to 5min later i get the random bsod

tranquil wolf
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so i did all of the Powershell Admin stuff, no go still. So i removed 3 RAM and tried one at a time, each worked in XMP mode, then tried them in pairs, worked as well, then tried all 4,, now it appears to be working, so maybe it was loose in the slot? idk but it is working lol

mild jackal
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Can you post a parts list?

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Or the exact models of your cpu/mobo/mem?

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Running a userbenchmark and posting the results works well

tranquil wolf
sterile spruce
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whats the diff between wi fi 5 and 6

main pulsar
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802.11ax compatibility

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so it doesnt really matter a whole lot if your router doesnt support 802.11ax

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the only way your router supports it is if you paid a ton of money for a router very recently

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like, mid 2019

sterile spruce
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i havnt

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we may upgrade because our att is doing fiber so we may upgrade i dont know enough about it

main pulsar
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ahh

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well, if you have the option, wifi 6 network cards really arent that much more expensive

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and most newer motherboards come with wifi 6 if the board has wireless networking capabilities

sterile spruce
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ive got the cpu and a case its mid tower

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Asus TUF GAMING X570-PLUS (WI-FI) ATX AM4 Motherboard

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how bout this its in my range

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well thats the one i getting lol

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not trying to be rude it just checked all of my boxxes real uick

tacit hemlock
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That's a decent board

tame narwhal
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anyone know good gaming mobo's that support ryzen cpu's

digital kernel
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Yup

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What CPU are you looking at getting?

tame narwhal
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Ryzen 5 3600

digital kernel
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Any b450 board should work

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If you want to maybe get higher tier components in the future, consider a b550

tame narwhal
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Ighty then thanks

warped scroll
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@tame narwhal why don’t you have the fish and lizard in your PFP

tame narwhal
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outdated council thing

vagrant mist
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where's linus

tawny dagger
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Yo

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Can someone tell me whether or not to cop the msi mpg b550 gaming plus

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I can't find any reviews on it

grim mica
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in short, b550 gaming plus is a good one, you can't go wrong with it

naive pendant
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What's a good mobo with an am4 socket, pairs with ryzen and has 4 memory slots for around $100 USD?

hollow thorn
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ds3h :P

charred venture
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microcenter had a bunch of restocked mobos

weary sluice
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Is there any information on when AMD Renoir APUs will be available for retail purchase?

digital kernel
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Soon

naive pendant
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I think within the next few months

weary sluice
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Damn, few months? Every article I read says the Pro versions are being released July 21st in 11 days.

digital kernel
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They might be

weary sluice
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But then articles say the Pro and regular series this time around will be all the same and not separate. But who knows.

digital kernel
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I'm seeing the same thing. Looks promising

pine flower
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why my pc do dis

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i can hear either the pump or fans throttling when it does it too

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seems like when i keep ryzen master open it sits at 47C but doesnt bounce in temp like that

quaint current
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the spikes are usually when background tasks run and stop running

pine flower
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but it stops entirely if i start ryzen master

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but also idle temp goes up almost 10C

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ryzen master closed

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ryzen master running

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maybe theres something like trying to fight for control of something?

frozen jackal
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Does Ryzen's specific RAM comfiguration still apply, or can I use all 4 RAM slots on my B450? Running a Ryzen 5 2600X.

digital kernel
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Zen+ is still a bit picky. Some kits will work in all four slots, some won't

frozen jackal
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noted. been thinking of getting another 16GB kit at some point, followed by the upgrade to 3rd gen Ryzen

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but I guess i'll just go straight to a newer mobo, then proc and ram

upbeat lichen
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yeah, i'd avoid mixing kits if possible, normally it should work no problem, but i've read stories of people having stability issues mixing ram kits, because one set struggles to support XMP timings or something along those lines

frozen jackal
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I mean, it'll be from the same brand and model (Corsair Vengeance Pro)

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would it still have stability issues then?

upbeat lichen
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it shouldn't, and probably won't, but i've still heard of issues happening, rare as it might be

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it's usually just best to buy a full matching set at once

frozen jackal
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alrighty then

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thanks

naive pendant
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I installed a set of 16gb oloy warhawk into my last build, a few months later I put another set in (same make and model) in. I don't know what happened but all 4 sticks fried and had to get completely new ones

frozen jackal
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when you got the new ones, did it work just fine then?

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cus it sounds like I'll have to just get the 4 sticks at the same time, rather than getting another set later

plain flume
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I have a msi gaming plus z390 i7 9700k and 32g of corsair ddr4 vengeance rgb (8x4). After installing the second set of sticks, I started to become unstable in just about everything (at their rated speed 3200). I've since lowered the speed to 3000 on the ram and my system is stable again. Would it be most efficient for me to run the ram at 3000 x 32gb or 3200 x 16g? I primarily game, began getting into streaming and recording, for context.

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I think the motherboard supported up to 3600 speed, 64gb, I can't quite remember, but I do know it was far more than I have installed

neat glacier
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@plain flume I don't know the solution to your problem, but I do know this: running RAM 200 mHz slower won't drop you more than 1 or 2 fps.

long geyser
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Probably secondary timings, IMC voltage, or mem voltage that is messing with you. Realistically streaming with NVENC or a capture card won't use much RAM, not will gaming. So I doubt you'll need 32gb. But also 3000 vs 3200 will make very minimal differences in perf on Intel.

ionic hamlet
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I'm sort of mulling over going with one of the MSI b550 boards. I really like the way they look and I don't seem to be hearing any callouts of them being really bad.

prime echo
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Im going for the B550M Mortar Wifi Mobo in my Micro ATX build. I got an eye out for the B550 Gaming Edge Wifi, but I wanna see temps in benchmarks from it first.

long geyser
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Doubt MSI b550 will be more then meh for the price. B450 was quite meh for price, usually almost always overpriced

hollow thorn
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MSI B550 looked fine imo

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(not for the 150$ or so launch price but)

long geyser
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ATX wise best cheapest b550 was Asrock Pro Gaming 4 at $115. Idk mATX

polar moth
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So my girl's build was completed yesterday and everything is fine. She ran the game Ark then it froze and locked up her pc. Weird she tried to run Elsworld it would crash within 2-3 minutes. Havent done the benchmark test but I think its due to incorrect or not up to date AMD drivers? Specs are Ryzen 5 3600, 16 gb 3000mhz, RTX 2070ko

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And the motherboard is Rog Strix B450-F gaming

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I havent done the BIOS update, could it be that needs update or two games were just having bad luck?

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yes I did windows 10 update and updated graphics card too

charred venture
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monitor/cable issues?

shadow ermine
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is the ryzen a good brand for cpu ??

supple monolith
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yep

hollow thorn
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AMD is a good company

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Can you call Ryzen a brand tho?

supple monolith
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True lol

hollow thorn
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Just a marketing term afaik

shadow ermine
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my bad

weak hamlet
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ryzen OP.

naive pendant
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Ryzen has Risen

polar moth
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btw she has pc hooked up to tv capable of 4k resolution, is that this why?

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I already set it to 1920x1080

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Ok problem seems solved with BIOS update

short sage
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@polar moth sounds like you figured it out but for the future just try to do any bios and/or driver updates first to narrow down the problem

polar moth
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Seems the ark is having a problem still

short sage
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Ark is very poorly optimized and super demanding, use GeForce experience to check all graphics drivers

keen arch
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guys i need help

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What's the best processor I can upgrade to? This is my current specs..

Prossecor: AMD Athlon II X4 630 (upto 2.8GHz)
Motherboard: FOXCONN 2A92
Installed RAM: 16.0 GB (DDR3)
Storage: 1TB HDD (Just ordered a 500GB SSD on its way)
GPU: NVIDIA GeForce 8400GS

neat glacier
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@keen arch budget?

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dammit lmao I hate it when ppl here ask for a reccomended upgrade to without giving budget, use, or any other important info abt what u need in the build

finite elm
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That looks like a fairly old PC

neat glacier
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@keen arch

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budget?

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also i'de u[grade everything

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that looks like it can barely do 720p medium

keen arch
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my budget is $300 -500 if i have to get a new pc i will just want to take the right route

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@neat glacier @finite elm

naive pendant
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can someone help me with my ram?

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i had 16gb of ddr4 at 3000mhz and i added another 16gb and now it won't go passed 1866mhz

midnight pollen
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try to find some parts used at that budget, but something like storage and psu i'd probably get new

naive pendant
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no matter what i set in bios 😦

midnight pollen
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xmp?

naive pendant
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Any idea what I should do!

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This xmp preset doesn’t work I believe never did even though ram was 3200

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Most I could do was 3000

midnight pollen
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xmp profile should work, sometimes doesn't play nice when overclocking. are you relying on what the bios is saying or did you check in windows to see the speed

naive pendant
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Windows is at 1866

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I did the xmp last time and just kept turning on and off and I had to remove the cmos battery

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Will try that profile again and hopefully don’t need to reset bios again lol

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Nope that xmp profile still at 1866

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Windows shows 16gb on the left but 32gb on the right

midnight pollen
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you use 4 sticks?

naive pendant
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Yes

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4x8gb

neat glacier
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quad channel

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good man

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or woman

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good human

naive pendant
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Man I’m so confused

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Just reset bios to defaults

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Will try again

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But if it doesn’t work I’ll pay someone to help me 😂

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I wonder why windows is showing only 16gb on left but says 32gb on right

midnight pollen
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strange, could try a bios update

naive pendant
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Latest one

midnight pollen
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was this always like this, or did this problem happen recently

naive pendant
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It happened when I went from@16gb

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To 32

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I had it running stable at 16gb 3000mhz

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And I put another 2 sticks and dropped to 1866

midnight pollen
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might just be appearance, there is something about detected ram speeds i can't remember. i am no expert with ram tho

devout mothBOT
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Joee#4652 has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

naive pendant
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so frustrating

midnight pollen
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doesn't look like it has on board but could get a pcie wifi/bluetooth card

polar fern
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is it the b450m steel legend

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i got the same mobo

naive pendant
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yes

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i put the same ram sticks

slim kelp
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Can you link me one?

naive pendant
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all the rams are the same

slim kelp
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A bluetooth card?

polar fern
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so i had this issue, where it wouldn't detect my ram, is that your issue?

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or what is it

naive pendant
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the ram is detected

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in bios

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i see all 4 sticks

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but

polar fern
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ok

naive pendant
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in windows it ays

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16gb usable

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sec

slim kelp
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@midnight pollen can u link me a bluetooth card?

naive pendant
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says 32gb (16gb usable)

slim kelp
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I didnt care to check at the time for wifi/bluetooth because i was going to run ethernet

polar fern
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ive never had that issue, but the one thing that did work for me was when i reinstalled windows 10

hollow thorn
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windows might be going crazy

polar fern
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im not sure what else to do

hollow thorn
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try the repair thing

polar fern
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i tried repair to fix my ram not being detected

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did not help at all

midnight pollen
naive pendant
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did u overclock ur ram

polar fern
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reinstalling windows did help though

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consider that

midnight pollen
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oh idk if there are cards just for bluetooth

polar fern
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I did for a bit and turned it back down to regular

naive pendant
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im using 3200mhz ram and it's running at 1866

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lol

polar fern
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im not using xmp

hollow thorn
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1866 mhz base?

polar fern
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i see no difference in games

naive pendant
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yeh

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it wont go up

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at all

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but

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i had 16gb 2x8gb

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at 3000mhz

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worked perfect

slim kelp
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Yea cuz i dont rlt need wifi

naive pendant
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upgraded to 4x8gb

slim kelp
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How would i install it?

hollow thorn
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Like true frequency or ddr frequency

polar fern
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try re seating the ram

naive pendant
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ddr frequency i guess

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here

hollow thorn
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okai

naive pendant
polar fern
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if only half of it is usable try re seating

hollow thorn
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might want to just run every stick at 2133mhz cl15

naive pendant
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i tried

polar fern
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im running every stick at 2133

hollow thorn
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Jedec defaults

naive pendant
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it wont budge over 1866

long geyser
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effective and actual freq exist for RAM

polar fern
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wait so it wont even run at standard speed?

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2133?

naive pendant
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it's running at 1866

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thats it

hollow thorn
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prob timings

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you got cpuz?

naive pendant
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i tried anything over that

polar fern
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yea i have no idea

hollow thorn
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wait you mix matching sticks?

naive pendant
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no

long geyser
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what voltage, timings, RAM models, mobo

naive pendant
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same 4 sticks

hollow thorn
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ye cpuz would help

naive pendant
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i just used the xmp setting

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the same ones that worked

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at 2x8gb

long geyser
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So you put it at "XMP 2.0 DDR4 3200..." and then what?

naive pendant
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and i hit f10 saved it

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and rebooted

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with CPUZ

midnight pollen
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931mhz oof

hollow thorn
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oh it's actually 1866 effective

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go to SPD

midnight pollen
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cl13

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huh

naive pendant
hollow thorn
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and then do slot 2

midnight pollen
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i am even more confused now

naive pendant
long geyser
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XMP kill itself?

midnight pollen
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lol

naive pendant
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no idea but

hollow thorn
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hmm

naive pendant
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could reformatting windows help?

long geyser
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no

hollow thorn
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I was thinking maybe same model different part somehow

polar fern
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i reinstalled windows and it fixed my ram detection issue

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try that if nothing else works

long geyser
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well, put the freq, timings, and voltage in manually

hollow thorn
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Try using the Memory try it thingy
(Or whatever equivalent you have in your bios)

naive pendant
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hold up let me go into bios

hollow thorn
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manually doing all the subtimings is hard :P

long geyser
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subtimings shouldnt change all too much hopefully. Should at least be good enough to do 2133 effective I'd hope

hollow thorn
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also not too sure why it's running at 2t command

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should prob be 1t

naive pendant
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Okay so now I’m in here and set the profile to whatever

hollow thorn
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is there a memory try it thing

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or is that only MSI

naive pendant
hollow thorn
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Hei what mobo do you have, and do you have a memory try it profile thing

long geyser
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MSI

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so welp

naive pendant
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Nope asrock

hollow thorn
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Let's try XMP settings manually

naive pendant
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Those are the current settings

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What do I put?

long geyser
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So it put 13 manually?

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or 16?

hollow thorn
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wait that is xmp timings

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right side is changes left is before

naive pendant
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I think yes

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But why does windows only say 16gb useable or is that normal?

long geyser
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when you opened up the OC Tweaker did it have CL at 16 or 13?

naive pendant
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Says what I showed you

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It’s running at 13

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But I can change it

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To 16

hollow thorn
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change it to 16

naive pendant
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On the right side

hollow thorn
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and try frequency at 3200mhz

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like xmp

long geyser
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so you changed it to 16 and then took the pic?

naive pendant
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No

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It was like that

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I didn’t touch anything

long geyser
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BIOSes arent fun

naive pendant
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Let me try but you’re sure windows reformat won’t do anything?

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Was working fine with 16gb damnit

long geyser
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well try going back into windows and CPUz

naive pendant
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cause from this screenshot

hollow thorn
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(save and restart?)

naive pendant
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Says my ram is not all usable

long geyser
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based on what I can tell it was already trying to run at CL16, but CPUz is showing CL13

naive pendant
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Yeah I saved and restarted

hollow thorn
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open cpuz again

naive pendant
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It’s open

hollow thorn
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screenshot?

naive pendant
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seems like values didnt even change lol

hollow thorn
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Wait

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did you turn off xmp in bios?

naive pendant
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no

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its still set at

hollow thorn
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xmp might be overriding manual settings

naive pendant
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but without XMP on

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like

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on Auto

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I can't change the dram stuff

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its greyed out

hollow thorn
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excuse me what

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Oh there might be like a "expert mode" or whatever in the bios to let you edit subtimings and such

naive pendant
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Check

long geyser
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can ratios like FSB or whatever it's called effect timings?

hollow thorn
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Hei you used asrock bios before?

long geyser
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BLCK I think it's called

naive pendant
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Everything on auto it’s greyed out the timing thing

long geyser
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you know what? Reset CMOS

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pull the battery out for a min and then put it back in on the mobo

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coin battery

naive pendant
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Okay fk

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Gotta remove graphics card

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Lol

long geyser
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this is getting too whack for understanding

naive pendant
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Lmao

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If I click on dram information tho

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SYs this

hollow thorn
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ya jedec defaults

naive pendant
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Jedec?

hollow thorn
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That's LAN? I thought you needed bluetooth or smth? @slim kelp

slim kelp
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My bad i sent the wrong one

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Yea i need bluetooth

midnight pollen
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lol

slim kelp
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😂

midnight pollen
hollow thorn
vale oracle
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right fellas, im back after a while.

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Planning on moving to Ryzen from Intel, Because I find it'd be a good move and DDR4 ram goes brrrr in my brain.

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2 Questions:
What do you think a pre-owned i7-4790 would be worth in NZ?
Is i7-4790 to Ryzen 3 3100 a good move? Userbenchmark in all its bias places then dead on top of each other, and I'm pretty sure I dont need anything better.

naive pendant
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So@tried everything and when I remove the two new rams and set the xmp to 3200 it works

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As soon as I put another stick in it’s locked at 1866 forever

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So weird

vale oracle
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is that a compatibility issue?

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bruh nvrmind its above in chat

gritty patio
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@vale oracle i would say a 3300x if you could get your hands on one

vale oracle
#

yeah thats my end game

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im not looking for an upgrade tho

#

just a switch

#

only one place here sells the 3300x anyway

gritty patio
#

oh

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b&h??

polar fern
#

uh amazon?

#

you got access to it?

grizzled holly
#

on the asus rog maximus formula, what cables does it use to power the cpu and what are they callled?

#

i'm asking for a friend since i've never seen or have had experience with that motherboard

short sage
#

Definitely, but the 1600 AF would probably be the better choice as it has virtually the same performance for less price. They’re hard to find though

supple monolith
#

I think Amazon still has em for $100

tacit hemlock
#

105 last time I checked

midnight pollen
#

Last I checked it went oos, only found it for 150 and up

tacit hemlock
#

Ya your right, its oos

finite elm
#

I'm just glad you check to see if something's out of stock tbh.

r/buildmeapc and r/pcmasterrace don't.

#

They're still suggesting the 3300x to everyone even though it's oos in a lot of areas. Including mine. I waited 6 weeks for it to be back in stock when I was building my brothers pc before I gave up lol

lethal glacier
#

Good motherboard under $150? Amd

keen arch
#

Whats a better motherboard B450 Aorus M or B450M DS3H for these hardware?

AMD Ryzen 5 2600
Gigabyte Radeon RX570 4 GB Gaming Video Card
EVGA BR 600 W 80+ Bronze ATX Power Supply
G.Skill Ripjaws V Series 16 GB (2x8) DDR4
Thermaltake Versa H18 MicroATX Mini Tower Case
WD Blue SSD 500GB

warped scroll
#

@lethal glacier for what CPU

neat estuary
#

Haveing a super annoying Audio issue with the Gigabyte b550 Aorus Pro. It recognizes my headset and mic in the front jack but after a full day of driver uninstall/install, configuration, watching vids online. That darn thing won’t work. Welp!

lethal glacier
#

7 3700x @warped scroll

warped scroll
#

B450 tomahawk maybe

desert seal
#

@neat estuary Oh f*ck, glad that I didn' upgrade yet. I'm not sure if I'll do though

neat estuary
#

???

#

I think its something really simple that im missing. I can hear it buzz when i restart the pc etc..... some how my old headset just cant pick up signal from the fancy audio system

long geyser
#

@desert seal swearing and avoiding the filter for swear words (including censor) isn't allowed on the server.

#

Be wary before mod gets angry

neat estuary
#

Im of half a mind to get one with a USB to actually use the HD quality i get with the board

peak flax
#

Looking for advice on a motherboard. Do any offer built in raid 6 ? (If not, any advice on a raid card?) Also, I'm new to this forum, so not even sure if this is the right channel to ask for such things.

buoyant niche
#

does anyone know if exposing the bus on a motherboard would wreck it. there 2 spots the size of a toothpick tip

grizzled holly
#

ay yo wth

#

i'm kinda jealous of my uncle...

#

if you're wondering, i helped him out pick some stuff

vale oracle
#

b&h??
@gritty patio Mighty Ape, what is b&
uh amazon?
@polar fern find somewhere that ships to NZ cheaper than I can get it here and it’ll be lit

#

Alright so:

#

3300x is what im going for, what motherboards work out of box with it, and i dont need like X470 boards because I dont do any overclocking.

grizzled holly
#

then just get the msi b450 tomahawk max

vale oracle
#

oh no

#

not the msi b450 tomahawk max

grizzled holly
#

how come?

vale oracle
#

idk

#

thats like the board everyone reccomends

#

shows MSI's on it tho

grizzled holly
#

wdym shows msi's on it?

vale oracle
#

b450m mortar max?

grizzled holly
#

and everyone recommends it because of the total experience everyones' had with it

#

and the quality of it

#

is immaculate

#

for it's price oto

#

too*

vale oracle
#

idk man, if everyones reccomending your product, and its that good, youre on top of it man. youre winning.

grizzled holly
#

wha

#

what's

#

your budget for it?

vale oracle
#

im tryna just sketch out costs, budget rn is around 400$

#

im just looking to get the 3300x and and mb

grizzled holly
#

for the whole pc?

vale oracle
#

nah

#

just those two parts

devout mothBOT
#
GOD [DORIME]#0277 has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

vale oracle
#

and im in nz

#

so bad market

grizzled holly
#

damn

vale oracle
#

looking to aus as well but

grizzled holly
#

is there a pcpartpicker in nz

#

so i can look at the prices for products for you

vale oracle
#

there is

#

but

grizzled holly
#

can you link it

vale oracle
#

sure

#

i tried looking through before, nothing too good

grizzled holly
#

OH MY GOD

#

PRICES...

#

ARE TERRIBLE

#

405$ FOR A 9600K?

#

@vale oracle what are you gonna be doing with the system?

vale oracle
#

gaming

#

mainly

grizzled holly
#

YO WTF

#

500$ FOR A 1660S

#

you weren't lying about a bad market

vale oracle
#

yeah, thats why the market here is mainly pre-owned

#

trade me is a god send

#

GPU prices are bad, its rough

grizzled holly
#

only gaming?

vale oracle
#

mainly gaming yeah

#

Asus TUF B450M-PLUS GAMING Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard?

#

anyone know if thats alright?

gritty patio
#

mmm

#

for what

#

are you ocing??

grizzled holly
vale oracle
#

nah

gritty patio
#

ok

#

then no

#

dont get that

grizzled holly
#

nah to who

vale oracle
#

i thought b450 boards couldnt oc

#

both

gritty patio
#

no

vale oracle
#

intel is bad, at least on my end

grizzled holly
#

who'd you hear that from?

gritty patio
#

they can

#

lmao

#

this mans info is crazy

vale oracle
#

i dont want intel, moving from a i7-4790 lol

gritty patio
#

you can oc on anything

grizzled holly
#

hey that cpu isn't THAT bad

gritty patio
#

^^

vale oracle
#

ik, but i want choices later down the line

grizzled holly
#

intel is still good on some cases

gritty patio
#

gaming

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and thats it

grizzled holly
#

besides, intel changed a lot since the 4000 series

gritty patio
#

lmao

vale oracle
#

yeah ik theyre good, its not a bad cpu, but im talking choices specifically

gritty patio
#

??

#

just throw in a nice gpu

grizzled holly
#

bro the prices for this stuff

vale oracle
#

like where i can go

grizzled holly
#

wait

#

what is your g pu?

gritty patio
#

^^

vale oracle
#

GTX 980, im upgrading to a 1070

gritty patio
#

oh

#

y

grizzled holly
#

yo the 980 is still really good

gritty patio
#

^^

#

i'll buy it off of you for $20

grizzled holly
#

same with 4790

vale oracle
#

u p g r a d e s p e o p l e

gritty patio
#

no cap

grizzled holly
#

or whatever it's called

vale oracle
#

u p g r a d e s

grizzled holly
#

AY DECLINE THAT LMAO

#

DECLINE THAT OFFER

gritty patio
#

no

#

dont

#

i want it

vale oracle
#

i'll buy it off of you for $20
@gritty patio keen

grizzled holly
#

i'll buy it for 150$ USD

gritty patio
#

no

vale oracle
#

thats like a 4000% profit loss

gritty patio
#

ok

#

so

grizzled holly
#

lmao

gritty patio
#

you're being nice if you do

grizzled holly
#

hey kisuke

vale oracle
#

lol

#

im selling it for 300 nz

grizzled holly
#

i'll give you my 560 2gb for 50$ 😉

gritty patio
#

spell it right

#

and no

grizzled holly
#

fine how about 9000$

gritty patio
#

my toilet paper rolls are worth more than that gpu

grizzled holly
#

tough bargainer, 100M

gritty patio
#

no

grizzled holly
#

FINE, final choice

#

1 billion dollars

vale oracle
#

wait anyway, is the the tuf b450 any good

gritty patio
#

no

vale oracle
#

Why

grizzled holly
#

okay okay i'll be flexible

#

100 trillion dollars

grizzled holly
#

why don't you want to update the bios?

gritty patio
#

???

grizzled holly
#

he said he wants it to be ryzen 3000 ready outta the box

gritty patio
#

cause

vale oracle
#

yeah, i like, am on intel my dude

#

so cant upgrade them

gritty patio
#

its convenient

vale oracle
#

Gigabyte B450 Gaming X ATX AM4 Motherboard

#

bet

gritty patio
#

if you dont really like the ports on that mb then its understandable

#

but its a great budget option

#

and no

#

that board is like 2 years old i'd get something newer

grizzled holly
#

yo i have an idea

#

just get a z77 mobo with your 3300x

#

perfecto

gritty patio
#

???

#

lmao kys

vale oracle
#

brilliant

#

will do

grizzled holly
#

too late already dead

#

speaking to a ghost rn

gritty patio
#

@vale oracle whats the budget rn mayn

#

i'll whip up sum rq

grizzled holly
#

wait a minute\

#

don't you need ram?

gritty patio
#

nah

#

just hop in the vc since we homies now

grizzled holly
#

bro prices there actually sucks

gritty patio
#

tired of typing tbh

#

on where?

grizzled holly
#

can't talk im a ghost

#

nz

devout mothBOT
#
GOD [DORIME]#0277 has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

grizzled holly
#

500$ for a 1660S

gritty patio
#

rip

#

ew

vale oracle
#

im gonna get kicked

#

i stg

grizzled holly
#

lmao

#

just don't cuss it's easy stupid

vale oracle
#

join general ig

#

shush monke

gritty patio
#

mans spent 5 mins typing and none of it came through lmao

grizzled holly
#

lmaooo

gritty patio
#

ok

vale oracle
#

ASRock Fatal1ty B450 GAMING K4 ATX

#

Gigabyte Aorus B450 I WiFi Motherboard

warm path
#

Which would perform better an i9-9900KS or i9-10900K

warped scroll
#

10900k

upbeat lichen
#

got my i7 build up and running and 2 of the ram sticks i bought are bad, womp womp

#

seller is just sending me an entire new set of the same type though, and letting me keep the set i initially bought though, so that's awesome

charred venture
#

:0

warm path
#

Nice

winged kiln
#

Hey Everyone!!! Just joined. Wondering if any of you could shed some light on whether or not the asus tuf b450 should be compatible with ryzen 3rd gen out of the box w/o needing a bios update. The info I can find seems to be conflicting

upbeat lichen
#

At this point in time, it shoudl be. that warning was really only applicable when there were still boards coming out of the factory with an old BIOS. by now, they should all have the right BIOS when built

#

there is still a very small chance, if any retailers have really old stock in the warehouse kicking around

#

but unlikely

winged kiln
#

thats what I was thinking

#

I did buy from newegg and all mobos seem to be selling like hot cakes

potent dew
#

Does anyone have any ideas why my mobo's RGB isn't the same color as anything else in my PC?

#

Gigabyte

winged kiln
#

do you have connected to argb or rgb?

potent dew
#

My fans and cooler are connected to it if that's what you mean

#

RGB on them is

winged kiln
#

is it a three pin connector or 4 pin?

potent dew
#

Pretty sure 3

#

Seems like it's just a lighter color than everything else

#

My mobo

winged kiln
#

ok, If the mobo changes color but its different... like ones blue and ones red, try rgb swapping in the software

upbeat lichen
#

yeah, the supply issues with things like motherboards means that anything you get will probably be pretty fresh from the factory, so BIOS issues shouldn't crop up at all

potent dew
#

?

#

Oh I did

winged kiln
#

but if mobo is same color as your fans just a different "temperature... not sure what could be the issue

potent dew
#

Nvm it's only when I use the preset light blue it's lighter

winged kiln
#

thanks chauntalel!

potent dew
#

Maybe a different temperature

#

than the fans and stuff

winged kiln
#

hmm if its only the presets. probably just a software bug

#

Im having some problems with asrock polychrome and razer synapse as well

potent dew
#

Not only with presets

potent dew
#

Could I clock my RAM over the 3200 it says it can go to?

hollow thorn
#

Depends

gritty patio
#

technically

#

yes

#

should you

#

no

potent dew
#

My CPU doesn't like 3200 so I was wondering if I could go over

hollow thorn
#

Not with a 2700x you won't

#

2nd gen doesn't like going over 3200mhz

potent dew
#

Oh

gritty patio
#

okok so

#

i have speedfan running rn and ryzen master

#

speedfan says the cpu is at 37C and ryzen master is at 43C

#

which one is right

#

and i also always run afterburner in games and ryzenmaster and afterburner always match up

#

so is speedfan wrong??

hollow thorn
#

speedfan might be wrong

gritty patio
#

was thinking that as well

#

i wish my temps were that low

#

they used to be at least

ember ermine
#

So does all ASUS strix mobos support razed cpus

#

Do

hollow thorn
#

razed?

#

what

quaint current
#

ryzen?

polar moth
#

So help, my girl's pc now freezes within minutes after the startup. could it be RAM issue?

hollow thorn
#

freezes in what way

#

bsod

#

crash black screen of death

#

just slow

polar moth
#

Froze or as in crash

hollow thorn
#

???

polar moth
#

Actually from what I see, Windows 10 just froze after few minutes.

#

BSOD and black screen of death is same thing -_-

hollow thorn
#

not really

#

blue screen of death vs black screen of death

polar moth
#

oh my bad I didnt see "black"

hollow thorn
#

one is windows crashing, which means most likely software/driver issue

#

one is just straight complete crash, prob hardware issue

polar moth
#

So no Black screen. just win 10 froze within minutes

hollow thorn
#

and then what does it do

polar moth
#

Nothing

#

Also her Asus rog Strix board has light that goes from green to orange to red.

hollow thorn
#

prob debug led, normal for those to switch around on boot

polar moth
#

It started with orange light

hollow thorn
#

It's 4 lights right next to the 24pin right

#

like this

polar moth
quaint current
#

haha led go brrr

hollow thorn
#

BRRRR

naive pendant
#

Thinking about pulling the trigger on getting a dual kit of 32gb 3600 CL16 ram for Ryzen 4000 build I am gonna do but not sure if I should wait or not to see what will work the best with the new cpu

keen elk
#

I just bought ram with same specs for my new build.. nice!

mild jackal
#

Buy 3600 mhz cl(anything) ram for ryzen 3rd gen

neat estuary
#

And again. Every time I do some stress testing on my B550 Aorus Pro it will not start the next morning until the battery is reset. Anyone have this issue?

autumn aspen
#

is this right spot to talk about the sleep/hibernation functions on the PC?

#

I'm just curious about Sleep mode, I recently had an old OCZ power supply that died on my music workstation (it was about 10 years old) and often I'd have the computer sometimes on, but in sleep mode. Does this harm the PSU in anyway?

#

like, I'd use my workstation for an hour, take a break for like 30 minutes, sometimes a few hours if I have to run errands.. the computer would be asleep. I'd leave all my applications running just to come back to it

#

Partly why I ask is because I also have a PC for gaming, and frequently it sleeps after 10 minutes of being AFK. I'd imagine it saves power usage no?

hollow thorn
#

@mild jackal don't buy cl20 ram tho

woven vault
#

Hello

neat glacier
#

hi

#

wassup

woven vault
#

I have some problem with my asus tuf x570

neat glacier
#

coolio

#

wassup with that

#

also what cpu

#

@woven vault

woven vault
#

Ryzen 9 3900x

neat glacier
#

k

#

whats the issue

#

@woven vault

#

:
]

woven vault
#

I have 2 cpu connectors

waxen current
#

I'm about to buy a asus tuf x570 to overclock my 3900xt, so I'm interested on errors

#

lol

woven vault
#

I am using the 8 pin connector

#

Should I conect the other connector

neat glacier
#

ew @waxen current there's supposed to be issues with x570 not working well with xt cpus, and 470 is supposed to be better

woven vault
#

Even if i wont overclock

neat glacier
#

hm

#

not sure

upbeat lichen
#

@woven vault do you mean the big 24 pin, or another 8 pin?

woven vault
#

Ill show you

neat glacier
#

@waxen current don't do x570, it's not suppoed to be gr8 for xt cpus

#

linus did a thing on it

#

wow ur typing for awhile

waxen current
#

What i really want is a mobo compatible to a ryzen 3600 and the best 4000 series cpu overclocked in the future

#

I dont wanna spend money on a mobo now and when i buy a 4000 cpu

neat glacier
#

what gpu r u using? j curious

woven vault
#

It has one 8 pin and one 4 pin for cpu

waxen current
#

right now 1660 super, but planning to upgrade when i get the processor

woven vault
#

It is going swell

neat glacier
#

bc if u wanna upgrade, also y get a r9? get an r5, or r7 if u rlly need it...

woven vault
#

But can i connect 8+4 pins and overclock when I want

waxen current
#

i "skipped the line" here, so im gonna wait for irontiger to finish 😄

neat glacier
#

ask #general-chat @woven vault, u would probs get an answer faster

#

i can't rlly help sry lol

#

@waxen current ye

waxen current
#

hahaha

neat glacier
#

y get r9 if planning to upgrade?

#

doesn't rlly make sense...

#

also 1660s kinda bottlenecks it

waxen current
#

Let me tell my plan... I have a fx-8350 from 2014 on an old mobo (ddr3 ram)

#

I want to upgrade it

#

but step-by-step

#

ending up with a 4900x (if it comes up to be like that) and a 2080ti

neat glacier
#

damn

waxen current
#

right now, i only need a good budget cpu that works well, so i thought about 3600

neat glacier
#

lemme tell u rn 2080 ti is only like 10-15% better than 2080s

#

not a giant performance boost

waxen current
#

gotcha

#

and way cheaper

neat glacier
#

i'de settle on a 2070s, and i7 / amd equivalent... that can do 4k144 on ez games like valorant and 2k144 on most games

waxen current
#

i mostly play cities skylines heavily moded... even with a 3900x and 2080ti it runs around 50fps

#

its terrible

neat glacier
#

on 1080p?

#

or 4k?

waxen current
#

yep

#

1080p

neat glacier
#

it's not exactly like that

#

closer to 25-30%

#

but price differences

waxen current
#

true true true

#

that 2070 s it's a little expensive, isn't it?

neat glacier
#

no

waxen current
#

isn't the 2080 super around that price as well

neat glacier
#

nope

#

2080s is around 650-700

waxen current
#

truue

neat glacier
#

600 if u find a good deal

#

but those are rare on rtx cards

#

well

#

@waxen current I don't think you're gonna find a build under 4.5k$ that can run cities skylines above 60fps on 1080p

#

:/

waxen current
#

unfortunately that's true

neat glacier
#

what other games do you play?

waxen current
#

but im walking small steps

#

any game really...

#

shadow of the tomb raider

neat glacier
#

damn

waxen current
#

ac odyssey

neat glacier
#

you only play the most taxing games, don't u

#

lmao

waxen current
#

hahahahah

neat glacier
#

cities skylines mdoded

#

tomb raider

waxen current
#

i think i get them because i watch too many benchmarks

#

my next one will be rdr2

neat glacier
#

kk

#

well gl

#

consider 2070s-with an i7 combo

#

intel is best for gaming

#

super high boost clock speeds

waxen current
#

gotcha

#

but i don't plan to spend much money on cprs as of this Friday (im getting paid lol)

#

cpus*

neat glacier
#

k

waxen current
#

i might get a 10400 then

neat glacier
#

it's not way more expensive than an r7 tho...

waxen current
#

to upgrade to a 11900k

neat glacier
#

ahhH don't do that

#

bc then ur gonna have to get some 1200$ 3080 ti when it comes out

waxen current
#

i expect that

#

but only waaaay later

neat glacier
#

wdym?

#

any gpu short of 2080 ti will bottleneck that kind of cpu

waxen current
#

right now, im looking for a budget cpu and a great mobo to run the best possible cpu overclocked for gaming

#

and then in the future i'll look for an excellent cpu/gpu combo that runs fine on my mobo

neat glacier
#

well... cpu won't do as much... usually u wanna try getting the cpu and mobo at the same time, bc there isn't a garuntee a mobo will support a cpu as well as a next gen mobo

waxen current
#

i see what you mean... it makes sense

#

should i get a budget mobo/cpu pair for now? and then whenever i have $3k spare i'll get new gpu/cpu/mobo

neat glacier
#

duudeee

#

3k is enough for a op mobo with 10900k, 2080 ti, nice cooling, etc etc!

#

it's a whole build

waxen current
#

i just exaggerated lol

#

but you got what i meant right?

#

instead of invest on a good mobo right now, should i do it only when i buy the high-end cpu/gpu?

neat glacier
#

mhm

#

or buy the gpu now

#

nothign super revolutionary is happning there

#

except ofc ampere

waxen current
#

hmmm

#

quick question then

#

what is the best mobo for 3900xt oc?

neat glacier
#

not sure yet

waxen current
#

an x470 probably?

neat glacier
#

x470 does work better

#

but I wouldn't do 3900xt

#

for gaming, intel OP

#

10900k is gr8

waxen current
#

hmm

#

thanks then

peak sail
#

Here we go yet again...

#

@neat glacier for the record I building 4x budget gaming pc based on i5 4690K cpu's

neat glacier
#

cool

peak sail
#

I will plant them on four Msi B85-G43 Gaming mobo with 16gb ddr3 1866mhz with Gtx 1060 6gb Vga's

neat glacier
#

ko

peak sail
#

all the parts are used of Ebay to save money, new parts are the monitor, psu, case, reb keys and mouse.

#

my min specs are always 1080p 144mhz with a 1ms response

#

kids aren't playing much but roblox, fortnite, and maybe pso2

#

And the Asus monitor is a great deal for the specs, locally I paid $275.00 for this unit.

#

if not alternatives on newegg or ebay

#

time to game seeya in a bit

woven vault
#

Ips 1 ms is worthy than curve VA panel??

wintry rose
#
#

Hmm it looks like ASUS TUF only supports 2nd gen Ryzen.. so does that mean only Ryzen 2000's?

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Hmm think I prefer the ASRock B450M based off of what it comes with. I do like the ASUS TUF for the looks but this build is form over function.

quaint current
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yes

wintry rose
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It just saddens me that MOBO prices shot up. The ASRock 450m used to be soo much cheaper

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Thx for the confirmation Nachos.

peak sail
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interesting

hushed plume
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httpss://pcpartpicker.com/list/Xj4tTC thoughts?

hollow thorn
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switch cases plox

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PSU is out of stock

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Mobo is too expensive imo

hushed plume
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ik

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need to find a cheaper one

hollow thorn
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MSI B550-A pro is 140$

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just as an example

hushed plume
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can it support fast ram?

hollow thorn
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Yes

hushed plume
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link?

hollow thorn
hushed plume
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thx was having trouble with finding a board

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and you said the PSU is out of stock

peak sail
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i was eyeballing this

hollow thorn
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Expensive rn

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200$ for a b550 board
No thanks

hushed plume
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yikes

peak sail
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you have to understand I am on a am3+ mobo now, I built a Asus B350/ryzen 1500x mobo/combo as a gift.

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I want to distance myself away from that even if cost me an X570 combo.

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I was looking to a 3800/3900XT cpu

hushed plume
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yikes

peak sail
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lol I am sorry but the system will sub as a development server

hard egret
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Is there anywhere to find a 3300X, it seems to be either out of stock, or for some outrageous price. What's going on?

quaint current
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covid and its a great value

hard egret
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Do you know if/when they might do a restock?

quaint current
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nope

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if u want to grab one it might help to get notifications for when its in stock

hard egret
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Will do

vale oracle
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Thoughts on the MSI B450 Mortar Max?

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Also sucks you can't find a 3300x, they arent out of stock here

tacit hemlock
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A 2600 runs hotter than a 3600 right?

warped scroll
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Nope. They both have a 65w TDP

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Same with 1600 AF

waxen current
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What do you guys think about this: Corsair Vengeance RGB Pro 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR4-3200 CL16 + i5-10600K + MSI MPG Z490M Gaming Edge WiFi MicroATX MoBo

main pulsar
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what are you doing with this build?

waxen current
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Gaming

main pulsar
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32gb is kinda alot

waxen current
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I play cities skylines heavily moded

main pulsar
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are you planning to run dedicated game servers in the background?

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oh

waxen current
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It requires like 18-19 GB of RAM

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lol

main pulsar
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lmao

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hey, if you know you need it, thats the only reason you need to justify buying it

waxen current
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thanks for the feedback!

main pulsar
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do you know how much a game like city skylines is multithreaded?

waxen current
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I think it uses up to 6 cores

main pulsar
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ahh

waxen current
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not sure though

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do you like the motherboard choice? i wanted a matx just because i wanted a smaller build... but if an atx is way better i wouldn't mind that much

main pulsar
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its all just form factor

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the only benefit to ATX is you get more PCIe slots

waxen current
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hmmm

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yea, I'll probably need ony the pci for the gpu

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I plan to overclock it

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the most as i can

main pulsar
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yeah, basically, motherboard choice for a midrange cpu is nearly irrelevant

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all Z490 boards are designed with running a stock 10900k in mind

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so, an overclocked 10600k? no problem

waxen current
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that's good then! hahaha

main pulsar
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however, some brands are better at overclocking than others in terms of bios support and ease of use

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iirc, gigabyte and asus have good overclocking bioses

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you should ask what mATX motherboards are good for ocing a 10600k in the #overclocking chat, and someone will get back to you at some point

waxen current
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coool

main pulsar
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cuz idrk

waxen current
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that's great

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thanks a lot!

main pulsar
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np

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also, cities: skylines is not very multithreaded

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apparently the unity engine is quite limiting in that regard, so the 10600k is the best choice

waxen current
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awesome

heavy saffron
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anyone know the best budget B450 board that has 2 fan headers? Also AMD socket

neat estuary
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@heavy saffron I’m gonna challenge you to find ANY board with less then two fan headers

heavy saffron
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@neat estuary I think the Gigabyte B450M DS3H does

neat estuary
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You want to build in a tiny case? That’s a ITX board

heavy saffron
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nah

neat estuary
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Then look at ATX

supple monolith
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Even if it doesn't you can get fans splitters for like $5 free shipping

heavy saffron
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just trying to find a good motherboard for my buddies build

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@supple monolith ill look into that

supple monolith
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What is your budget?

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Do you have a parts list?

heavy saffron
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1000

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yes i do

supple monolith
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Dm me with it?

heavy saffron
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i sent it

supple monolith
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I see, looking at it now 🙂

weak hamlet
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my bad, Im late

heavy saffron
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its okay

supple monolith
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I would get a 1600af over the 2600

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The same CPU in all but name for $40 less

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Wait nvm, rn it is the same price