#cpus-mobo-and-memory

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crude path
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i am not human 😦

long geyser
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@urban ferry captcha maybe?

granite river
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discord is grabbing the the page meta tags

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but newegg thinks discord crawler is not a real people

naive pendant
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Hey guys if theres bent mobo pins and you put the CPU in the mobo and turn it on, will anything happen. Will CPU still work coz I found a PC with bent mobo pins

dusk oracle
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it wont work

floral jetty
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I really really wouldn't recommend trying that

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if you can bend the pins back though, it'd probably work

naive pendant
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But would the CPU work

dusk oracle
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the system wont even attempt to power on

floral jetty
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You said the mobo had bent pins

naive pendant
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I found on the side of the road

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Yeah

floral jetty
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LOL

naive pendant
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I took out the CPU and there was bent mobo pins

floral jetty
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in a non-bent mobo, cpu might work

naive pendant
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Yeah I know that

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I was wondering if the mobo would stuff up the cpu

dusk oracle
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It needs all its connections though

naive pendant
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Ok cheers mate

spiral fulcrum
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Can I use aura sync with gigabyte aorus pro X570

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Or can I link aura sync and gigabyte rgb fusion

dusky flicker
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Depends the products that your are linking

spiral fulcrum
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For example

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A RGB terminal

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With lots of pins on it

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Or maybe a fan?

dusky flicker
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With Corsair you can only use icue as far as I know. With gigabyte and asus MOST products that have the right connectors work with their software but not all of them do. You just have to do a little research.

spiral fulcrum
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Ok thanks

dusky flicker
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You’re welcome

oak sand
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@spiral fulcrum its a gigabyte product, therefore no ASUS aura sync

spiral fulcrum
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@oak sand what happens if I connect a aura sync rgb terminal

oak sand
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Not sure. Probably wont work though

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Get the asus tuf gaming x570(wifi)

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It will link

oak sand
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And is the same price I believe @spiral fulcrum

gritty meadow
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@oak sand i believe you are missing something there

oak sand
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Probably

gritty meadow
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look at the pricE

oak sand
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Ah

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Yes

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Was thinking of a different board

gritty meadow
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no no, look at the sentence you wrote up there

oak sand
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Oh.

gritty meadow
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:D

naive pendant
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Cheap ram links please

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Ddr4

oak sand
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Speed?

gritty meadow
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capacity and cpu?

naive pendant
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Normal regular ddr4 lol

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Cheap as u can go

oak sand
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Thats not specific

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You could get a 4 gb 2400 stick for like 30

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I think

oak sand
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How was that 117

dusk oracle
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cause it is not sold and shipped by newegg

naive pendant
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2133mhz is how fast?

dusk oracle
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slow

misty belfry
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timetec is hynix so the quality is good anyway

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hynix is only a concern if you have an HBM2 based GPU

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read: vega variant

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it overclocks poorly in that case

umbral valve
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what is the “red cpu light” i see people talking about on b450 boards

finite shuttle
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Is asus prime b450 worth?

gritty meadow
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which specific variant @finite shuttle ?

umbral valve
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wait theres better ram for certain cpus?

surreal pond
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ye

umbral valve
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fuq

surreal pond
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lul

umbral valve
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what's a "better" ram for a 2600x?

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i got 3200mhzc16 geil super luce

dusky flicker
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That’s pretty good.

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3200 MHz ram is good for ryzen 2000 series 3600 MHz is good for ryzen 3000 series.

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And them sometimes the timings matters

umbral valve
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so no need to refund?

gritty meadow
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nope

dusky flicker
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No. And if all comes to fail you could always overclocking your ram. I have a team group kit that’s 2666 MHz but I have it run on 3000 MHz

main pulsar
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CPU package temps never went above 41C

fossil helm
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Can I use F4-3600C16D-16GTZNC on MSI b450 tomahawk Max with ryzen 5 3600x ?
In gskill page couldn't find this mobo on qvl

main pulsar
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Sure

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Qvls are generic, if you see any ram on the qvl that runs 3600 cl16, then these ones will too

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I mean, they can't test EVERY stick of ram in existence

fossil helm
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Nice, that's realy tricky for the first built, which RAM to use, recomendations are different, still must find info if it has any problem, will calm down if won't find any isues with this RAMs on tomahawk Max 😊

safe wave
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Is OLOy ram good?

gritty meadow
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its okay

golden owl
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Hello guys

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If we were to consider

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Ryzen 5 3600 vs Ryzen 7 2700x which one will be better guys

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Ryzen 7 has got 8 cores 16 threads and 4.3 GHz

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But since it is 2nd generation does it make any difference

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Or will it be better to go with a intel core i5 9600k processor

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Help!

muted roost
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Depends on the use case

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What do you plan to use this pc for

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Just gaming or do you plan to stream or do editing etc

golden owl
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Gaming streaming as well as editing

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Because @muted roost. This is going to be my first ever PC in my life

urban ferry
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2700x definetly

golden owl
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Hmm okay

urban ferry
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well hold on

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what GPU are you planning on getting

golden owl
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GTX 1660 super or rtx 2060

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@urban ferry

urban ferry
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alright

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hmmm

golden owl
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Ehcih one can I go for graphics

urban ferry
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so those two options both have NVENC encoding which can be used for streaming

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so maybe the 2700x isnt better...

golden owl
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Okay

urban ferry
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the 3600 is better for gaming as it has better single core performance, and if you leave the streaming up to the GPU, then you can use the processor for gaming rather than gaming/streaming

golden owl
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Hmm so going for 3600

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Wut abt editing

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Will it be good

urban ferry
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mmmm

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yeah

golden owl
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Okay

urban ferry
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1080p footage?

golden owl
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?

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Footage??

urban ferry
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what resolution video will you be editing

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oh wait

golden owl
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1080p

urban ferry
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do you mean photo editing

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nvm

golden owl
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No no video editing onky

urban ferry
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got it

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yeah, the 3600 will be good for that

golden owl
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Will Intel chipsets be good ??

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Or better to be with amd

urban ferry
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since its an AMD processor, you need an AMD board

golden owl
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Yup I knew

urban ferry
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i would look for b450, x470, and x570 boards

golden owl
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If it is amd

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I'm going for Asus b450 f

urban ferry
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b450 and x470 both need bios updates to work with the 3600, but most boards should be up to date by now

golden owl
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Okay

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So Intel chipsets are not good ryt

urban ferry
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amd is better for price:performance right now

golden owl
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Okay

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Graphic card bro

urban ferry
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intel used to be better, but now they have to catch up lol

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the 1660 super is comparable to my 1070 which can handle anything

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2060 has rtx, but its not good for it.

golden owl
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Oh okay

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But it has ray tracing know bro

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And when I went to userbenchmsrk rtx was 13% better

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Than gtx 1660 super

urban ferry
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2060 cant handle RTX. It can, but like if youre fine at playing at 20fps LOL

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thats what i would do

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especially if its cheaper

golden owl
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Bro what??

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It is built for rtx only bro

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Then why can't it handle its own rtx

urban ferry
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its like trying to run ios 13 on an iphone 6

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it will work, but not well

golden owl
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Oh okay

urban ferry
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that make sense?

golden owl
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Yup

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I mean no

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So better to go with gtx 1660 super

urban ferry
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yes

golden owl
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Got it

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We should install Nvidia drivers ryt??

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For recording

urban ferry
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huh?

golden owl
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GeForce experience

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We should install ryt

urban ferry
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what does ryt mean

golden owl
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Right??

urban ferry
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ah

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well, geforce experience isnt necessary, but it is sorta nice

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for driver updates

golden owl
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Okay

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But what should we use for recording

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You told some NVEC

urban ferry
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ah yeah

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NVENC

golden owl
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We should download it from the internet

urban ferry
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im not sure exactly how it works, youd have to ask somebody else. All i know is that NVENC is good for streaming and takes the pressure off the CPU lol

long geyser
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NVENC is the encoder type. Using it only needs the drivers and some recording software (OBS, Streamlabs, Shadowplay, etc).

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Experience isnt needed for that

wicked gorge
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hello everyone! thinking of starting a new build (first one in about 10 years haha) there are alot of mobo out there now and iv been researching, but was wondering if someone can point me in the right direction with some recommendations! thinking of using amd ryzen 2700x, if it makes a difference, and im personally building the case so can build to specs

cerulean nova
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depending on your budget i would go with the tomahawk

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b450

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also that pretty cool that you are building the case

wicked gorge
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i like how newegg has the same listing like 20 times from 100-400 for same picture haah

cerulean nova
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lol

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do you need a link?

wicked gorge
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if you got a good one i would appreciate im looking at them now, to find a difference in all these prices lol

cerulean nova
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are you in the US?

wicked gorge
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i am

wicked gorge
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thank you kind sir!

cerulean nova
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you are welcome kind sir!

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have you used PCPP?

wicked gorge
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i have used it a bit

cerulean nova
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well you can use that to get links to parts

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like amazon and newegg links, and it shows you where it is cheapest

wicked gorge
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true, i was just struggling on picking mobo haha, i have ideas of the rest just mobo has too many options for my brain haha

cerulean nova
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ahh lol

cosmic tapir
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Anyone have an idea where i can get a 9900k that has a few broken pins?

fleet inlet
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On the used market, even though I'm not sure people sell expensive CPUs that are 'broken'.

cosmic tapir
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Yea im gonna try and repair it so i can get a 9900k for cheap since i dont have 600 dollars to drop on one

fleet inlet
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Imagine you fail to repair it...

cosmic tapir
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Yea that would suck ive never done it before but would be willing to try

main pulsar
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9900k uses pads, not pins

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The pins are on the board, there's no fixing a 9900k

fleet inlet
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That’s right completely forgot. Too used to Ryzen :/

hard badge
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What the big difference between an i9 9900K and an i9 9900KS?

oak sand
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@hard badge KS is factory overclocked to 4 ghz I believe

fleet inlet
cosmic tapir
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@main pulsar oh okay didnt realize that

hard badge
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Thanks!

surreal pond
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should I sell my brand new ryzen 5 3600x for 200$?

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or what is the average selling price

worn garnet
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If someone is willing to buy it, get as close to the price you paid for it new

vital fable
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hey so bought a new hp pavillion high spec pc with a i7 7700 a gtx 1050 and 2400mhz ram but my ram is only running at 1200 mhz so im confused as to why

quaint current
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ddr is double data rate, so ddr4 1200mhz=2400mhz

delicate bolt
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i need help finding what kind of memory this pc uses

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Pin count, sodimm?, etc.

quaint current
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looks just like ddr3

delicate bolt
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it's an AIO, i'm pretty sure it uses sodimm but not totally certain

quaint current
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cant find if it is or not

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most likely yeah sodimm

delicate bolt
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alright

quaint current
delicate bolt
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alright

quaint current
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the model is W240526IN8 if u want it

umbral valve
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y’all know if any of the following cpus are better than a 2600x and can fit into my budget

main pulsar
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probably not

quaint current
main pulsar
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i mean, i cant even read any of those

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but from the box art i can tell those prices are too low

quaint current
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yeah a 9900k isnt $250

umbral valve
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it’s intel

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intels store

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well employee store

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@main pulsar you can’t read them?

quaint current
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wuuut so ur sure those are legit

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whats ur budget?

gritty meadow
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@umbral valve there is no such thing

main pulsar
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1440x900 panel

umbral valve
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an employee store does not exist?

main pulsar
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too blurry

gritty meadow
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no, not that you would be allowed to post anywhere at least

umbral valve
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well my cousin sent them to me so

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anyways my budget probably 700 probably can sneak into 800

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too bad the ssds aren’t as cheap

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thought they’d be half off as well

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@gritty meadow oh were/are you an intel employee?

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didn’t know i couldn’t send pics

gritty meadow
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lets just say i have worked closely enough with them

umbral valve
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oh

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well i deleted them

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i mean my cousin sent them to me

umbral valve
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1600 AF FOR $85 IS BACK BOIS

cerulean nova
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yay!

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now lets just hope it stays there

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still not on pcpp

umbral valve
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it’s on amazon tho

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microcenter should sell 1600 af for like $40/50

gritty meadow
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why?

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why exactly should any retailer gut their profits when there are people willing to pay the price?

coral owl
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trying to build a budget mATX build, is the B450M PRO4 a good mobo?

tacit hemlock
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I'm pretty sure microcenter guts their profits to get people into their store. I dont think they offer that price online.

umbral valve
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@coral owl a lot of people don’t like asrock software and it seems msi has the lead on b450 products

coral owl
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ah

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what are some good msi b450 boards out there?

oak sand
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@coral owl budget?

coral owl
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hmm

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id say $100 or below for the board

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and my budget for my pc is $500~$600

oak sand
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Why msi?

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@coral owl

coral owl
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🤷‍♂️

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it doesnt have to be msi

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this Blue. person said " it seems msi has the lead on b450 product"

hollow thorn
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There's one Asus b450 board ppl like to recommend for it's sound card

coral owl
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what does the sound card do?

hollow thorn
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Sound

coral owl
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hmm

long geyser
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@coral owl two options that're good
b450 Asus TUF Pro Gaming (not to be confused with Plus Gaming)
b450 Gigabyte Aorus Pro WiFi

dusk oracle
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Or buy any board and get a better sound card installed 😛

long geyser
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yeah. but why get a board that is meh at its price point when you can get more for your money? sound chip is just one of the many reasons as to why tomahawk isnt super amazing for its price. Things like amount of M2 slots, amount of PCIe slots, WiFi, ethernet controller, how many of 12v/5v RGB headers, and USB ports

spice relic
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Msi mpg z390 gaming edge ac atx motherboard anygood ?

naive pendant
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Anyone have any tips on shipping a CPU? I don't have the plastic clam shell it comes with, nor the original box.

main pulsar
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lga or pga?

spice relic
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Lga

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@main pulsar lga

main pulsar
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do you have any antistatic bags?

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wait

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@spice relic srry i wasnt talking to you

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mb

naive pendant
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@main pulsar I'm not sure, I will have to check. Do you think putting it into an anti-static bag and then putting it in a padded envelope will be fine? 6700k no pins

spice relic
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Ok

main pulsar
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yeah, thats totally fine

naive pendant
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Awesome, thank you!

main pulsar
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just bubble wrap it up and put it in a bubble mailer

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boom

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if it were pga, it would be a little more difficult tho

naive pendant
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Yes and I'm glad it's not XD

crude path
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uhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

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i disagree with that

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oh wait nvm i misread

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i thought you said put a mobo in static bag and in envelope

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but yeah just wrap it well it should be fine

main pulsar
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lmaooo

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nah, cpu, static bag, bubbl wrap, bubbl mailer

crude path
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yeh

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i was worried cause ive seen mail that should not be bent, forced bent to fit in my mailbox.

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that clearly said "do not bend"

main pulsar
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ive seen that too

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well, it was my own mail lmao

crude path
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i bought a metal plaque thingy and it was bent in half ._.

main pulsar
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but it was just paper stuff

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😭

gritty meadow
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@main pulsar and done

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omiggy is finally on the way with his build

main pulsar
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phew

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finally

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gj

gritty meadow
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which is one heck of a world away from the starting point

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and reallly good job @main pulsar on finding that viewsonic

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that is a silly good price for it

main pulsar
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it was a killer deal lmao

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i assume he just wanted a small pc?

gritty meadow
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no availability and shipping made the cheapest board that fit the requirements an ITX one

main pulsar
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heh

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interesting

gritty meadow
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very

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and he ended up saying he wanted/liked the Fractal design style (in general)

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he had settled on accepting the price for the define mini c

main pulsar
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they make sleek cases

gritty meadow
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which is not a cheap case (125 aud)

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and then the mainboard stuff happended, and node304 ended up the choice

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and he is going to go out and try some mice/keyboards at local retailers to get an actual feel for them

main pulsar
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good idea

gritty meadow
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and then order/price-check online

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that is why there is a fairly hefty reserve for that

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although i think he is going to end up using more than that

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i would like to show you the abomination of a list he came back with today btw

main pulsar
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oof, i hope its not the one i made for him

gritty meadow
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it is not

main pulsar
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phew

gritty meadow
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i think that is the one

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hmm, he deleted it

main pulsar
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oof

gritty meadow
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shame

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it was someone else that had done a list

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it was effed up

main pulsar
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o wait, i think i saw that one

gritty meadow
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3600 + x570 + drr4-3000

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etc etc

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extra cooler paste etc

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it was imo just a mess

main pulsar
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yeah i saw it

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was bad

gritty meadow
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we had a "brief" 3 hour voice chat about it

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well, chat

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in that i talked, he listended

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i hope it sticks

main pulsar
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i didnt know pcpp had staff

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to help

gritty meadow
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pcpartpicker doesnt have staff

long geyser
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@gritty meadow note: SN550 is DRAMless

gritty meadow
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not for that

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i know @long geyser

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it is going to be fine for him

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availability is so bloody wonky over there

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and shipping is insane

main pulsar
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it IS a giant island

gritty meadow
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@long geyser but thank you for mentioning it :)

long geyser
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yeah, availability can be fun

gritty meadow
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especially when you remove newegg from the options of retailers

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because shipping

main pulsar
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is Australia a continent?

gritty meadow
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yes

main pulsar
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huh

gritty meadow
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heck, consider this

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the evga KO that is bouncing all over the place in price in the US?

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yeah, that is the 3rd cheapest card over there

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with about 15 retailers having plenty of stock

green swan
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Hey y'all is this a good place to ask for help on deciding/choosing which motherboard to pick? I was redirected to the discord from the customer support chat

oak sand
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@green swan they made a good choice

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Budget,

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?*

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@green swan

spring terrace
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how much of a chance is there for ram to get damaged if i dropped them from ~1m while those were in their plastic packaging

gritty meadow
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just about zero chance

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but there is a chance

spring terrace
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it's been on my mind for a while, i was slightly worried

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i would be worried a lot more if one of those dropped while not in packaging, and if they had hit the pins

gritty meadow
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there are not "pins" as such on ram

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its contact pads

spring terrace
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oh yeah

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right

gritty meadow
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here is something for you to think about

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you have a ssd?

spring terrace
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yes

gritty meadow
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2.5 or m.2?

spring terrace
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an m.2 ssd

gritty meadow
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okay, those are a bit more fragile

spring terrace
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yes

gritty meadow
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so lets take a 2.5 ssd

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IF the case if hard enough, you can use it as a hammer

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i am not joking

spring terrace
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even though i knew those are hard to damage in such a way, i was still concerned

gritty meadow
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the "be carefull" warnings/labels that are on things are there because people run around with their head in the attic and their feet in a different country

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components in the consumer space are quite durable

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and by quite, i mean, very

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BUT, you have to remember, it is still mass production

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"stuff" happens

spring terrace
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sadly i will have to struggle a bit with the m.2 drive packaging

gritty meadow
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hm?

spring terrace
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it's in place very well, but it's hard to get out

gritty meadow
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cut the top of it

spring terrace
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yeah i know i could do that

gritty meadow
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its a clear double plastic case right?

spring terrace
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no

gritty meadow
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which model is it?

spring terrace
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that'd be simple to get out

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its a pny cs3030

gritty meadow
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that "looks" like a regular cardboard box with a antistatic bag?

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so what are you actually worried about there?

spring terrace
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nothing really

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also its not in an antistatic bag

gritty meadow
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and?

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just one less item to throw away :)

spring terrace
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true

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im pretty sure i have to keep the packaging if i plan on reselling it a few years later

gritty meadow
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that is your choice.

spring terrace
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yes

gritty meadow
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i have never had that problem here locally

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mind, i am also in EU

spring terrace
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im also living in europe

gritty meadow
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then the box should not be a problem

spring terrace
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still, if i would buy used hardware, i'd probably want to get it's box too, so im just going to keep it just in case

gritty meadow
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also, on the topic about being nervous about parts and packaging.

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those are cpu trays

spring terrace
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yes

gritty meadow
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now imagine a pallet with them on it

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as in, the kind you move with a forklift

spring terrace
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intel cpu's are harder to damage because they have pads, not pins

gritty meadow
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that is the method for ALL vendors

spring terrace
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it isnt a big issue on amd cpu's either if they're on trays too

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yes

gritty meadow
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no matter pins/pads/pogos

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point being, there is no padding, there is nothing

spring terrace
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i see

gritty meadow
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you get them like that, you store them like that

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and you pray to whatever you believe in that whoever moves the pallet knows what they are doing

spring terrace
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i'd be a lot more worried if that person handled hdd's roughly

gritty meadow
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hahaha :D

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you would not like being in a warehouse with components :)

spring terrace
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actually, i would

gritty meadow
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hdd's that are not powered on are just fine, they can handle a LOT of punishment

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the point of all this: Dont worry so much about the components, they are durable enough

spring terrace
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alright

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thanks for the help

gritty meadow
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you are very welcome :)

green swan
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@oak sand haha well I'm pretty certain I'd like to get a Ryzen 5 2600 processor. I'm not sure what all I should be looking at as far as motherboards go. I guess there is a A320 or B450 that tend to pop up, but I'm not really sure which one to go with, or brand, or any of the specs or whatever.

gritty meadow
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@green swan what is your total budget?

green swan
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for the motherboard, I'm thinking less then $150. Is that reasonable?

gritty meadow
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its plenty

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but try and put forth a total budget for all the parts you want to get

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if that is 600usd? fine. if it is 2000usd? fine.

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but having a general idea about what you have available, will help us (people here) give you sensible advice

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@unkempt tinsel i see you plotting?

green swan
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So the Ryzen 5 2600 shows for $120 on newegg, I'm planning on getting the $60 ripjaws 288 pin 2x 8GB memory cards, and then the motherboard. I think that's all I need for right now.

gritty meadow
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@green swan do you need wifi?

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IF you do, then the total will be about 15 usd higher than this.

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but that is a suggestion for parts @green swan

oak sand
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@green swan the 2600x is 80 at microcenter

green swan
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Will there be much difference between a "Micro" motherboard and a normal one? Is that just size?

gritty meadow
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for your outlined use? it is just a question of size

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and that is the cheapest board that gets you okay things

green swan
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OK cool, thanks! I think I can go from here. Thanks all, I appreciate the help!

gritty meadow
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you are very welcome

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keep this in mind, if you show this to people that make a bunch of assumptions about what you are going to do with the machine, you will hear a lot a noise about the mainboard being wrong etc etc etc. I guarantee you, it is not. is if perfectly functional for you @green swan

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and you are very welcome to send the people that might complain over here

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i will, if nothing else, be entertaining.

open idol
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Guys

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I have a serious question

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Also a problem

gritty meadow
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yes

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your

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enter

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key

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:)

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ask and we can try to answer @open idol

open idol
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@gritty meadow

hardy acorn
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Is it better for 2 8gb ddr4 memory sticks or 1 16 gb one

gritty meadow
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generally 2 * 8 in consumer stuff

mighty rover
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hey guys
I wanna ask about RAMs, i want to know if it's worth to buy G.skill with timing 16-16-16-36 over one with 16-19-19-39? even if the gap between them is over 100$, and this is their links
https://www.newegg.com/g-skill-32gb-288-pin-ddr4-sdram/p/N82E16820232860
https://www.newegg.com/g-skill-32gb-288-pin-ddr4-sdram/p/N82E16820232861
they are the same as i saw when i compared them, the only diff is timing, and idk if spending 100$ for a bit better timing is gonna be worth it
im planning to use it on ryzen 3900x or 3950x
also, is it fine to use any other RAMs with 16-16-16-36 timing? if they are other cheaper options, or this RAMs from g.skill are giving the best performance for AMD?

main pulsar
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its not worth it

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at all

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i dont think it matters what your doing with your system, tightening timings is for enthusiast bragging rights and minimal gains

buoyant relic
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I have a question.
Would it be easier to buy 3600 memory or overclock 3200?

quaint current
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depends on what die it is and how well its binned

hollow thorn
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Reasoning being not all 3200 ram can be overclocked to higher frequency

mild jackal
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@naive pendant is one of the higher bins of b-die /ddr4 in general.
Stock XMP at 3200 14 14 14 34 is great as is, but those kits are very flexible to manual OC.

mighty rover
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@main pulsar thank you

copper badge
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Should I go with the ryzen 3600 or 3700x?

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Both are within budget

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It's going to be primarily for gaming

gritty meadow
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@copper badge what is the tradeoff you are making elsewhere in that system?

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because the 130 usd difference between those should enable other things. [Edit: -should]

copper badge
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Either with an AIO or an air cooler

gritty meadow
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logically that does not fly.

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could you link your build?

copper badge
gritty meadow
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question: have you asked anyone else about this build?

copper badge
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Yes

gritty meadow
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as in, has someone looked at this and gone : "yep! that looks fine!"?

copper badge
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Yes

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I know about the driver issues

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With the 5700 xt

gritty meadow
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How do you feel about paying for stuff you will never use?

copper badge
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?

gritty meadow
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that mainboard is silly levels of overpriced

copper badge
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I'm going with it for the PCIE 4.0

gritty meadow
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which you are going to use for what?

copper badge
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Eventually when the 30xxs come out

copper badge
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Uh

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Wajt

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What

gritty meadow
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so, what other reason do you have?

copper badge
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Is there a sale on it

gritty meadow
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no

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that is a x570 board

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look at the price history of that board

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it is the semi-expensive part of its price history

copper badge
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Okay

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I was thinking of the PG X

gritty meadow
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what else beyond pci-4, do you think you will use from that board on your list?

copper badge
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Definitely not a 2.5 gigabit port

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The 1 should do

gritty meadow
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what are you talking about?

copper badge
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Ethernet ports

gritty meadow
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the Taichi board only has 1, 1gb port

copper badge
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Exactly

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I'm just saying I'm not gonna need more than that

gritty meadow
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odd way of saying.

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what else is worth it then?

copper badge
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Im also planning on OCing a bit

gritty meadow
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then your premise for asking about which cpu is wrong.

copper badge
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Boost up the CPU to 4 ghz

gritty meadow
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because you had not specced for at cooler at the start

copper badge
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Oh right

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I mean a good air cooler

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Would work

gritty meadow
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70+usd is used on that

quaint current
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also 850w is overkill bump it down to 750w

gritty meadow
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shush @quaint current

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dont ruin the fun and games :P

copper badge
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Anyway

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My time is up

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We're done driving

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So I gtg

lilac stream
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anyone know why the g.skill lighting software will not dectect my ram

gritty meadow
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do yourself the favour and listen to someone else from who originally spec'ed that list of yours @copper badge

tacit hemlock
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@gritty meadow Do you have time to help me understand something

gritty meadow
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@tacit hemlock i have time, i cannot guarantee that i can help, but ask away :)

tacit hemlock
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Im sure you can help :p
So we talked like a week ago. I was telling you my plans to upgrade my motherboard and cpu to a ryzen based one

gritty meadow
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@lilac stream sadly, i have no experience with that software. so no help from my end on that.

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@tacit hemlock go on :)

tacit hemlock
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I don't fully understand the process on the software end because ive heard conflicting reports

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I am going from an intel core i5 6400 and a prebuilt mobo so im sure that i can't just plug and play with the new components

gritty meadow
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nope, only thing that can potentially be used is GPU, Stoarge and ODD's

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maybe case/psu. but quite unlikely

tacit hemlock
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I recently did a case and psu swap in anticipation of this change so theyrre compatible now

gritty meadow
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ok

lilac stream
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do you think that a different mobo would help i have a msi b350 tomahawk rn

tacit hemlock
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I don't know what to do with my copy of windows, my data, and my drivers, nor do i know how to perform these changes

gritty meadow
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@lilac stream i honestly have no idea about it. none.

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@tacit hemlock you got time to jump in a voice chat to talk it over? details are easier/quicker to explain then

tacit hemlock
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think so lemme get my mic real quick

gritty meadow
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@tacit hemlock no rush, i will need 5-7 minutes before i am ready here.

tacit hemlock
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aight im ready when u are take your time

gritty meadow
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@tacit hemlock just jump into General 1

tacit hemlock
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k

naive pendant
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whats a good mobo that would fit an i9 extreme

gritty meadow
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What budget?

naive pendant
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under $300 about

gritty meadow
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for which i9 EE?

naive pendant
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all i know it is a preproduction extreme

gritty meadow
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yeah .. no

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not happening with that level of info

tulip talon
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Budget bored for Ryzen 7 2700?

tacit hemlock
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@gritty meadow hi again. So real quick I wanted to point this out. The asus tuf mATX board we decided on only supports memory up to 3200 mhz so there would be no point in getting the 3600mhz RIP jaw set right?

gritty meadow
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that is the old support page

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that hasnt been updated

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it will work. and as mentioned, that memory is so cheap (right now) that it does not make sense to go with anything but that 3600 memory @tacit hemlock

tacit hemlock
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Alright lol thanks again

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👍

gritty meadow
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you are very welcome :) and please remember, there are no stupid questions, only silly answers :)

tacit hemlock
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Sounds good

rocky thicket
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hello everyone. I have a question and I am new to Ryzen 5. I've noticed when i play certain games, my cpu memory went up to 12000MHz. all background programs are not running at all. so i am not really sure why. Does my game become slower with this cpu memory. Thank you in advance.

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edit. sorry i said it wrong. my cpu clock when playing games is 4100mhz. and ram 12000mhz. are those numbers ok when playing games?

oak sand
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Ram isnt that fast @rocky thicket

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Thats literally impossible for ram

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But for the cpu, simplify it to ghz so it would be 4.1

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Which is normal

hollow thorn
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12000 what the hecc

oak sand
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Right

hollow thorn
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you sure its not 1200?

oak sand
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Thats what thinkin

hollow thorn
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tho 1200 is VERY low for ram, unless you're on ddr3

but ryzen is on ddr4

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I dont even think theres 1200mhz ddr4 ram

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oh wait

oak sand
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He underclocked it

hollow thorn
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unless they have like 4x8 gb sticks of 3000mhz, and they're adding the mhz maybe?

oak sand
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Oh true

hollow thorn
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@oak sand I'm pretty sure 2133 is the lowest ddr4 goes, even if you try to underclock, I remember that as the lowest option you can set it to, at least in MSI bios

oak sand
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Yeah it is

hollow thorn
tacit hemlock
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So um apparently they sold out of the tuf motherboard last night and the ram went up in price so I guess I'll be waiting for a little bit now @gritty meadow

long geyser
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Could be 1200 actual clock, 2400 effective clock

hollow thorn
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could be that too, tho I wonder where they are getting the info from

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like hwinfo? or like task manager?

tacit hemlock
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What's better, 3200mhz at 16-18-18-36 timing or 3600mhz at 16-19-19-39

midnight pollen
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I would say 16-18-18-36 I think

long geyser
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3600 one

tacit hemlock
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Is it really a big enough difference to notice?

long geyser
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depends on what you do and what your CPU is

tacit hemlock
#

R5 3600

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Mostly games

long geyser
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So average FPS will be close to same but lows will be better. So basically less stuttering

tacit hemlock
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For the 3600mhz?

long geyser
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yeah

tacit hemlock
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Aight

mystic pecan
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Any deals on a Ryzen 5 3600

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?

oak sand
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Its 175 on amazon

broken forge
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What would cause a red light on my motherboard to randomly come on and play a 3 beep POST code on startup. Can still boot into windows perfectly fine without issues. No crashes or anything. Ran for hours on high settings gaming without issues. Tried different RAM, bios update,clearing CMOS, and a fresh install. MB is ASUS prime x470 pro.

midnight pollen
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Not sure about 3 beep but a 1 long 3 short beep could be an issue with gpu, like not enough power

gritty meadow
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@tacit hemlock is the TUF not listed as coming back in stock?

tacit hemlock
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It doesnt mention it

gritty meadow
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hm

tacit hemlock
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I'll check again

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I still have the tomahawk max as a backup tho

gritty meadow
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let me have a look around

sage sequoia
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will do

tacit hemlock
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Is this it? Cuz if so they restocked😂

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Ya they restocked it. It was 100% not in stock this morning

gritty meadow
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and yes, that is the board @tacit hemlock

tacit hemlock
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Theres two of them this is the one that is on pcpartpicker

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What's the difference

gritty meadow
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look at the names

tacit hemlock
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ah plus and pro

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So we were going for the pro then right?

gritty meadow
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the B450M-PRO Gaming is what you want

tacit hemlock
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Alright then, that solves that. Once again you fix it😂

gritty meadow
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:)

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what did the ram go up to btw @tacit hemlock

tacit hemlock
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82 I think

gritty meadow
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still a bit cheaper than normal

tacit hemlock
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Ya it's still a good bang for the buck

oak sand
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Wht ram is it

gritty meadow
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the ripjaws

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it was down at 74

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the cas 16 sticks

oak sand
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3600?

oak sand
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Ah yes

gritty meadow
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look at the price history

oak sand
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I have those

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They say "intel xmp ready" and "intel supported" on the box

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Idk if that means no amd but whatever

gritty meadow
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it does not

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it just means that intel paid money to have that sticker there

tacit hemlock
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Lol

oak sand
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Lol

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Nice

gritty meadow
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there is memory sticks that have both the intel version of that, and the amd verison

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on the same package

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the whole "supported" sticker stuff is imo bs.

oak sand
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Yeau

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Like "ryzen optimised"

gritty meadow
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because there is no manufacturer that would make a set of sticks for the consumer market that doesnt work with everything

long geyser
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I mean, some memory doesn't work with Ryzen. Tho that is rarely an issue

quaint current
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mainly a first gen issue, not a lot of ram worked with them. Second/third gen basically any kit will work

grizzled holly
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I'm looking at cable extensions on cablemod

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What connector do I add that powers the CPU?

gritty meadow
quaint current
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eps

naive pendant
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whats a good x570 matx mobo?

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with am4

gritty meadow
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budget?

naive pendant
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around $150-$200

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can go a little higher or lower

gritty meadow
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there is nothing lower than 170

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that is currently the onlyl one around

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as in, in stock

naive pendant
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I mean i could go a little higher if it gets some more performance

gritty meadow
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let me ask in a different way: What do you think you will gain with a x570 board?

naive pendant
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pcie 4.0

gritty meadow
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and use it for what?

naive pendant
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also i want a vertical gpu and what ive heard is that it wont work properly with a high bandwidth card and an b450

gritty meadow
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who told you that?

naive pendant
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my uncle

gritty meadow
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your uncle does not know what he is talking about.

naive pendant
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he might have said somehting different but im too stupid to know about it

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and yea he does know what hes talking about

gritty meadow
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the statement you repeated above = false.

naive pendant
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well I dont know how to explain it lol

gritty meadow
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there is no limit like what you are talking about

naive pendant
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is there a filter system on newegg?

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also by the time I build it the X6xx series would be out

gritty meadow
devout mothBOT
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Nervous Wreck Avalanche#6969 has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

astral cobalt
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oh yeah

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thats a rule

gritty meadow
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nothing to curse about :)

astral cobalt
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sorry!

gritty meadow
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nothing to be sorry about either :)

astral cobalt
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i swear like a sailor

gritty meadow
#

it will just make the people that are interested in OC'ing be more likely to answer you :)

astral cobalt
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ok, thank you

wet bone
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am i dumb or the seller is dumb

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i7 7900k

weak hamlet
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probably meant 9700

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it happens.

neon sky
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Hey I’ve been trying to find a mobo that could fit a dark rock pro 4 comfortably on the x570 chipset. Does anyone know which boards can fit this cooler?

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I’ve tried using there compatibility checker but it gives me some odd warnings

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Like the pro4 fits no problem but the smaller slim won’t.

quaint current
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afaik any mobo should fit it (maybe a few of the top top end ones like $500 motherboards don’t)

neon sky
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Without covering pci slots or ram slots?

quaint current
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yeah

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ram compatibility would be the only issue, just check to make sure

neon sky
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Hmm ok thanks!

grim grove
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I press reconnect and nothing happens

long geyser
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@naive pendant Whether you get b450 or x570 is eh for the bandwidth. There isnt any decent Gen4 compatible extenders for it as realistically any increased wiring length can get screwy with Gen4 You'd be best off with b450 as the default gen mode would be set to 3 and thus no annoying issues will occur with it. If you get x570 you have a very, very, high chance of needing to set it to gen3 manually in BIOS

grim grove
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Ffs

austere elm
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anyone bit of help wit ram nonsense and qvl
https://prnt.sc/r4b02m
screenshot has text in it
and this ddr4 DIMM DDR4 4GB 2400MHz Kingston HyperX Fury CL15, HX424C15FB3/4

Lightshot

Captured with Lightshot

naive pendant
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U
p @long geyser ok yes that's what he was saying but I just didn't represent that correctly thank

austere elm
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its asrock b450m pro for 2400g @long geyser

long geyser
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kits have different part numbers
HX424C15FK4/64
HX424C15FB3/4

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those numbers dont correspond to the kit size afaik. So basically cant say much. However you rarely have to care for QVLs now

austere elm
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will it break the motherboard

long geyser
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no

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worse case scenario (which is less then 1% chance), you get BSOD

austere elm
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im looking for a bit cheaper ram

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bsod means?

long geyser
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blue screen of death

austere elm
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well ill buy new ram then

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and wont waste twice the money

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for 4 dimms

long geyser
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again, it's very unlikely

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but as a note, save money with getting two dimms

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unless four is cheaper

austere elm
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nah

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its like 20 diff

long geyser
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four just means more issues, technically speaking. More points of failure

austere elm
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92 vs 48 for 2 dimms

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our tech is extra spicy

long geyser
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just spend the extra money on more memory (24gb/32gb), or some food for take out, or something else. I personally wouldnt go for 4 dimms

austere elm
#

Ty BTW 😄 very much appreciated

long geyser
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np

brazen cradle
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Is 3600x worth the extra money

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Then the 3600

brazen cradle
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And is this board good ? I’m most likely going to use a ryzen 5 3600

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ASUS ROG CROSSHAIR VI HERO (WI-FI AC) AM4 AMD X370 SATA 6Gb/s ATX AMD Motherboard

oak sand
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@brazen cradle no lol thats an x370

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Buy a b450 for a 3600

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Unless you meed gen4 speeds

long geyser
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When giving reasons to buy/not buy something you need to make sure it's correct. Like instead of that you could say for the same price you could get a newer and better board

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List out what is good/bad is also something to notice. (haven't checked but examples) like say maybe the sound chips isn't that good, VRMs are meh, and maybe BIOS sucks, idk

waxen marsh
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question i have corsair vengeance pro ram and one of them rgb kinda faded does anyone know anything

weak hamlet
#

Are you using Icue @waxen marsh

waxen marsh
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@weak hamlet sorry, but no i've been using mystic light so i can sync all the color

weak hamlet
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that couold be the issue.

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that or the actual led went out and will need to be rma's

urban ferry
#

my ram's colors go crazy too, but i found that controlling it with icue worked best

waxen marsh
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surprise

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now the light is on but one of the ram that is not broken change it's color while the broken one is static

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now it's fixed thx

midnight pollen
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rogue rgb

oak sand
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@long geyser my bad, but at 200$ you may as well just buy an x570

sage sequoia
#

@urban ferry what's your mobo?

urban ferry
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msi mpg z390 gaming edge ac

sage sequoia
#

You tried mystic? Only issue I had is the ram color change is a bit delayed compared to the rest of the system.

urban ferry
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icue and mystic light fought over control

long geyser
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@oak sand yeah, def use that price to perf point instead

tacit hemlock
#

@gritty meadow can you help me again when you get the chance

gritty meadow
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ask away @tacit hemlock

tacit hemlock
#

So... i hate to be a thorn in your side but i was gonna buy the mobo today and either i can't find it or it went up 30 bucks in price

gritty meadow
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:)

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paste the build list?

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and dont worry about it :)

tacit hemlock
#

alight one sec

gritty meadow
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it is just out of stock

tacit hemlock
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alright so should i wait

gritty meadow
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well, lets start by actually making that list useful :)

tacit hemlock
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lol ok

gritty meadow
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which parts have you already purchased?

tacit hemlock
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...none

gritty meadow
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okay

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then, could you explain why there are 2 ram sets on it?

tacit hemlock
#

ya sry i forgot to get that trident outta there

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im not getting the trident

gritty meadow
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i will fix things up and post a link at the end of our chat, okay?

tacit hemlock
#

sounds good

gritty meadow
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what was your budget again?

tacit hemlock
#

for which parts?

gritty meadow
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oh yeah, you are the one that has some of them already?

tacit hemlock
#

I was planning on 300 for the R5 3600 and mobo combined

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yes sir thats me

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i have everything but the mobo cpu and ram

gritty meadow
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okay, let me just fix that up then :)

tacit hemlock
#

Thx

gritty meadow
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can you confirm that @tacit hemlock

tacit hemlock
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Looks good

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i didn't know you could do that😂

gritty meadow
#

now, i seem to remember that your audio gear was mini jack based?

tacit hemlock
#

correct

gritty meadow
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okay, this will take a bit, i have to find a replacement board with the same chip.

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5-10 minutes and i should have an answer

tacit hemlock
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ok take your time

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take 15! 🙂

long geyser
#

15?... 15 years maybe?

tacit hemlock
#

15 decades perhaps

long geyser
#

15 millennia

tacit hemlock
#

15 eons

long geyser
#

15 15s

gritty meadow
#

there are 2 boards that are options.

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one is a m-atx

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one is a atx

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the m-atx one is already on your list, and is currently out of stock

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it costs 95

tacit hemlock
#

ok

gritty meadow
#

the other is a ATX version of the same board, that costs 120

tacit hemlock
#

ok could you send it to me?

tacit hemlock
#

ok so no main difference between the boards besides size right?

gritty meadow
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that is the only difference (that matters to you)

gritty meadow
#

yes

tacit hemlock
#

ok

gritty meadow
#

keep in mind the shipping

tacit hemlock
#

So do you think i should wait for a restock or just get it over with and get the atx

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it has free shipping for me

gritty meadow
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that is your call 100%

tacit hemlock
#

ok

gritty meadow
tacit hemlock
#

Technically... the atx board is better in that fact of more pcie slots and such, whether i need them or not, right?

gritty meadow
#

"technically a big barn is better" <- that is the same question :)

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:)

tacit hemlock
#

lol i guess so. i only have a few cows so i guess i don't need that big of a barn 🙂

gritty meadow
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aye

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but like any farmer, you like to think you need ALL the space :)

tacit hemlock
#

So, i know for 100% the two boards for me (I will not be closing those tabs) and i guess ill give it a few days to restock

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I think ill still buy the cpu tho

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because its on sale rn

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I like mATX boards a little better now anyway

gritty meadow
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you can use the different lists

tacit hemlock
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ya

gritty meadow
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aye, get the cpu

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and perhaps lurk a bit on the ram

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it goes up and down a bit

tacit hemlock
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Thats the plan

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ok well thanks again

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you should get paid for this :p

gritty meadow
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:)

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you are very welcome @tacit hemlock

tacit hemlock
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have a good one

gritty meadow
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likewise :)

gritty meadow
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and hello again @fossil bridge

fossil bridge
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hello

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basically im asking what atx board i should get for a r5 2600

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oc'd to 4.1ghz

gritty meadow
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the OC part is not something that can be promised.

fossil bridge
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thats ok

gritty meadow
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do you currently have it OC'ed?

fossil bridge
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yes

gritty meadow
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then, save the money and be happy

fossil bridge
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so just keep my current board then

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?

gritty meadow
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yes

fossil bridge
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okay

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thanks

gritty meadow
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save the money and buy something later on, fx a better cpu next year or something.

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or a better psu

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or gpu

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just dont invest in something that only gives you a bigger board

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especially not when you dont have to :)

fossil bridge
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it would also give more ram slots too

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mine only has 2 rn

gritty meadow
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aye, i know

fossil bridge
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okay

gritty meadow
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but do you "need" the ram?

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or do you "want" the ram?

fossil bridge
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i dont need it atm

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16 has been fine

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but it would be nice just in case yk?

gritty meadow
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that is "want" running around screaming "need" at the top of its lungs :)

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also known as the "ooooh! shiny!" part of all builders :)

fossil bridge
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true

crude path
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im gunna take arctic's side here cause MATX in a full atx case looks bad imo. i bought a new mobo just for looks lol. why would you say no to just getting a new mobo? i would assume if he can oc on a b450m he could do that same oc on an x470 right?

gritty meadow
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but yeah, save the money, mark it as "for pc parts" and keep saving up

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there is no promise about that @crude path

crude path
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i like to build for looks tho anGroovin

gritty meadow
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and as i said above, that is "want" running around

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you dont actually "need" it

fossil bridge
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ye

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i dont need it yet at least lol

gritty meadow
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there are plenty of other things that could be upgraded way before the mainboard

crude path
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well yeah and that was my case too. i went to microcenter on a whim and the mobo i wanted dropped from like 150 to 110

gritty meadow
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a bigger ssd would be nice for you

crude path
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i was like "STEAL"

fossil bridge
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im planning on swapping the hdd with an ssd

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and bigger boot

gritty meadow
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aye, that sounds sensible, i would still keep the hdd around thou.

fossil bridge
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oh i am

gritty meadow
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just tell windows to let it spin down

fossil bridge
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lol

gritty meadow
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hey, i have 4 hdd in my case here

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with ssds too ofc

fossil bridge
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i was planning on throwing it into another pc for storage/streaming

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even though i have like 3 other hdds for it lol

gritty meadow
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:)

fossil bridge
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though i would like to have a few hdds in my current build

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i currently have one in the 3.5" spot and one just resting on my gpu atm

gritty meadow
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i solve that, by having external docks

fossil bridge
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true true

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speaking of

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i need to move the other hdd

gritty meadow
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enjoy :)

fossil bridge
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well remove it

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anyways thanks for the help nayuSway

gritty meadow
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you are very welcome :)

tulip talon
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What’s the best budget mobo for Ryzen 7 2700 that’s a tax board

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Atx

fleet inlet
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Are there some mobo ‘features’ / ‘specs’ you particularly need / want

gritty meadow
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@tulip talon that depends entirely on your budget.

tulip talon
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Let’s just say like 120$ for it

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That’s my budget lol

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I was think about the rog strix bored for 125$ is it any good?

gritty meadow
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fairly overpriced IF you dont actually take advantage of what it offers

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is there any particular reason that the board has to be ATX?

tulip talon
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Idk if the td500 mesh white supports it or I’m just dumb

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@gritty meadow

fleet inlet
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That case supports ATX but also M-ATX boards.

gritty meadow
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@tulip talon the TD500 as @fleet inlet said, supports ATX, M-ATX, ITX, so there is no problem there.

tulip talon
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Ok cool what would be a good one tho either or

gritty meadow
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we still need an answer for the question @fleet inlet asked earlier

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"Are there some mobo ‘features’ / ‘specs’ you particularly need / want"

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because without some details, we cannot suggest anything

loud adder
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Hello all, I was looking to upgrade my motherboard. I have an i5-9400f and I don't know which motherboards I should look for that support it

gritty meadow
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why do you want to upgrade you mainboard?

loud adder
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One of the reasons is the ram is limited to 2666mhz

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Another PCI Express slot would be useful as well

gritty meadow
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memory speed aint really going to help you all that much

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just saying.

loud adder
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So I've been told haha. But either way, I still would like to look for a new one

gritty meadow
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next question: what will you use an extra pci-e port for?

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(and i am not trying to deny you an answer, i am just trying to make certain that there is actual logic behind a potential upgrade)

loud adder
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Potentially sli gpus at some point

gritty meadow
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sli is a dead tech

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buy a faster single gpu

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not a joke.

loud adder
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Tru. The main focus here is just wanting a newer motherboard that has faster DDR4 speeds. And more m.2 slots would be useful as I only have one

gritty meadow
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it is your money

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but that sounds like "want" screaming at the top of lungs while waving a "need" flag

tulip talon
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I look for 64 gb maybe m.2 slot and just a motherboard that’s gonna last and rgb would be nice

gritty meadow
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the socket you need is 1151, the trick is to remember to look at the mainboard and check that they have 9th gen cpu support.