cpus-mobo-and-memory

[plain vortex]

In performance, warranty and reliability

[dull flint]

I would say they're all the same lol

[plain vortex]

My kit hasn't had a single problem in the 2 years I've had it

[dull flint]

Ram is ram, sturdy and unlikely to fail but it happens

Also for what it's worth, trident z heatsinks can randomly slip off and fall apart. Lol

I've experienced this first hand

Went to take a stick out, stick stayed in and I had 3 parts of a heatsink in my hand lol

[plain vortex]

I see

[dull flint]

So I had one of 4 sticks just randomly delidded and it was...bewildering.

[plain vortex]

Hahaha

You said all three have the same die?

Sk hynix?

[dull flint]

No didn't say that

[plain vortex]

Sorry

[dull flint]

But they'll all be able to run a light overclock if they can do 3600 I'm pretty sure

So your c16 (again not the important number) will be achievable I'm sure

If I were to pick between the 3, I'd go pny or tforce

Most likely tforce

[plain vortex]

Okay thank you so much then I'll go tforce then

[plain vortex]

So you'd recommend to just leave it with the docp profile and that it

The 3600 18cl and that's it

[dull flint]

You can do a light overclock if you want to but it'll take at least a day to get it stress tested

[plain vortex]

Ah

[dull flint]

https://github.com/integralfx/MemTestHelper/blob/oc-guide/DDR4 OC Guide.md

You can extrapolate "safe" values from this then do stress testing

[plain vortex]

If I oc I should only mainly focus for atleast 3800 or something

[dull flint]

Yea, going higher frequency is better on AMD

You sync the fclk or infinity fabric to it

So 3600 = 1800 FCLK
3800 = 1900 FCLK

You may or may not achieve higher than that

[plain vortex]

Okay

[dull flint]

But always stress test it

Unless you want to corrupt windows

[plain vortex]

I'll just leave it stock oc lol

[dull flint]

You test it and watch for errors, if you error? Need to switch something back and try again

Ok

[burnt spear]

no not really

[dull flint]

Lol

[burnt spear]

up to a certain point it is

but 4000 in gear 1 is not possible

well, not consistently on a non apu

my friends 3400g cant even run 3600

[dull flint]

I've seen 4000 synced

[burnt spear]

if youre lucky, yeah

[dull flint]

Hell I've seen 4133 synced

Wheas tho but works

[plain vortex]

Yeah I don't have much patience and I would probably screw it up

[burnt spear]

wheas means it isnt working

[plain vortex]

I'll just leave it as is

[dull flint]

Some whea errors can be ignored

[dull flint]

All good

[burnt spear]

ehhhh

[dull flint]

Yes, some

[burnt spear]

if there's wheas, you'll eventually crash

[dull flint]

No that's what I'm saying

They don't crash

Some are correctable

To the point where it's like

You can still see a perf gain with those errors still being corrected

And so I'm clear, I'm referring to Zen 3, not APU's, CPU's. Lol

[plain vortex]

Also

If I want can I just get a second identical kit right? Check this out on @Newegg: Team T-Force Delta RGB 32GB (2 x 16GB) 288-Pin PC RAM DDR4 3600 (PC4 28800) Intel XMP 2.0 Desktop Memory Model TF3D432G3600HC18JDC01 https://www.newegg.com/team-32gb-288-pin-ddr4-sdram/p/N82E16820331514?Item=N82E16820331514&Source=socialshare&cm_mmc=snc-social-_-sr-_-20-331-514-_-08012022

For this

That's the one you sent me right

[dull flint]

You could? But I wouldn't. 64gb at 3600 on Zen 3 is pretty difficult to run

It probably would but I don't want to guarantee it

[burnt spear]

64 gb is kinda pointless if youre gaming

for most other tasks too

[dull flint]

If you really want 4 sticks, go 4x8

[hollow thorn]

I mean, iirc the error is whea uncorrectable

[plain vortex]

Okay thank you for your help guys I'll just buy the 2x16 for $110

It's cheaper that way

As for the RGB controlling

I can just use open RGB for all of my Corsair things and that new ram right?

I just use the horrible icue app

[dull flint]

Ye

You can use openrgb

[burnt spear]

also if you ever require 64gb, better off getting 3200c16 on zen4

[plain vortex]

The only thing I can't control with icue in my rig is my 3070 evga xc3 ultra's rgb

[dull flint]

Ah precision x1

Lol

[plain vortex]

Yeah another horrible software lol

I should be able to sync my gpu through open RGB as well right

[dull flint]

Eh it's not bad for OC

I haven't tried evga on openrgb, can't comment tbh

[plain vortex]

Haven't oc anything on my rig

Should be able to though

[dull flint]

But it's easily removed so it likely won't break anything by trying

[plain vortex]

Have pretty good temp over head

[dull flint]

3070's have a lot of OC room

[burnt spear]

wait

[dull flint]

Good chance you'll get good gains if you ever look into it

[burnt spear]

why you looking at 64gb with a 3070 lol

[dull flint]

He just wanted to fill 4 sticks

Lol

[burnt spear]

can get dummy sticjks

[dull flint]

Can

[plain vortex]

When +90% use it stays under 67° C in the scorching heat in Puerto Rico haha

Summers are hellish

[plain vortex]

I have them with my current kit hahaha

I have this CORSAIR VENGEANCE RGB PRO Light Enhancement Kit (Memory Not Included) – Black https://a.co/d/84cutZc

Is there a dummy kit for the tforce deltas?

Can I just leave the dummy kit that I have lol

[hollow thorn]

Don't really need dummy kits lol

[dull flint]

Another $20 to match the dummies

And also vengememes

Would rather 4x8

Would rather 2 kits of this https://pcpartpicker.com/product/R7zFf7/silicon-power-xpower-turbine-rgb-16-gb-2-x-8-gb-ddr4-3600-cl18-memory-sp016gxlzu360bdb

[plain vortex]

Would there be any compatibility errors in games or apps with two kits?

Or less performance

[dull flint]

Unlikely on any decent ram kit that isn't vengememes lol

Slightly less performance but not noticeable

And that's due to the motherboard needing to configure for slightly slower timings on 4x8 vs 2x16

[long geyser]

It truly is a beautiful piece of software, soft bricking GPUs and coming close to hard bricking KP 3090s. It's just amazing.

[obtuse forge]

Tf how is the i7 3770 only showing 4 boxes shouldn’t it be 8?

[hollow thorn]

Right click and click like logical threads instead of physical cores

It's just displaying cores vs threads

[obtuse forge]

i did it and its still showing 4 boxes

i just put in a new processor prob thats why

[long geyser]

Logical Processors only show four threads. Prolly need to go into msconfig and change smth like this.

[obtuse forge]

let me try that

Only 4

right?

[long geyser]

Was it set like that when you opened it?

[obtuse forge]

idk i just put in the 3770 instead of my 3470

[burnt spear]

isn't the 3770 also 4 core

[obtuse forge]

yeah but 8 thread

so it should show 8 boxed in task mannager

[long geyser]

Ye, but was Number of processors checked and set to 4 when you opened Advanced Options?

[obtuse forge]

yes

i tried to restart it now its on an update

( windows )

[long geyser]

Okay, makes sense as to what the issue seems to be. Number of processes is thread count that Windows boots with. Disabling it just uses max by default, so just disable it and reboot.

[obtuse forge]

ok

so i just uncheck the number of processors?

[obtuse forge]

its still showing up as 4

[long geyser]

What does msconfig show? Did Win pull big dumb and re-enable it?

[obtuse forge]

i disabled it

[long geyser]

Double check it tho? Cuz you know, it Windows

[obtuse forge]

its disabled

[long geyser]

And ye did reboot right?

[obtuse forge]

yes i did

[long geyser]

Is there a hyperthreading/SMT option in your BIOS?

[obtuse forge]

its on a dell mob

[obtuse forge]

so idk

i ran games on it and its not using 100% of it than the i5 i had

[long geyser]

Would be good to check. Luckily them BIOS' be basic so shouldnt be too hard to go through all options.

I dont know any other option in Windows for disabling threads. So idk if its a Windows thing or a BIOS thing anymore. I gtg for a bit now tho, maybe someone else could help soon-ish.

[obtuse forge]

ok

[plain vortex]

The evga software?

Damn

[hollow thorn]

Dunno, that sounds like something icue would do

[plain vortex]

Lol

Probably icue as well

[long geyser]

Yes, X1 forces firmware updates on launch. Time and time again EVGA has pushed wrong firmware to GPUs causing the GPU to brick itself. On cards like the KP the firmware is separate from vBIOS so it cant be fixed with NVFLASH, a program that actually works. Once the GPU is semi/completely bricked it can be hard to flash the correct firmware back due to X1 constantly failing to flash or just instantly flashing bad firmware again.

One person has created a third party flasher that works more consistently then X1 and has less hassle, but its still finicky as you need to know specific X1 versions for specific firmware flashes and it also will fail (just less often and easier to retry after failing). Said person has also done a deep dive into X1's source code with reverse engineering and saw quite a few things that were terrible engineered within the software.

Basically, X1 is trash. I wouldnt ever trust it. EVGA has really done a lot of bad decision making for GPUs/software during the Ampere era.

[long geyser]

Find any option in BIOS?

[obtuse forge]

yes

there are an option for enable hyper threading

[dull flint]

Enable it

[kindred rover]

Will a pc boot or if it boots, will it be able to run games without crashing if the processor is installed incorrectly?

[eternal helm]

no

wdym processor installed incorrectly?

[kindred rover]

I assembled my new pc in haste... I just put my cpu in and closed the lid.. now i was worried of i installed my cpu incorrectly...
My pc is running ok as of now.. boots fine and processor detects in bios and in windows.. also played farcry 5 amd origins for like 2hrs... Cpu temps are 76c while gaming.. should i be worried? I mean if i intalled it incorrectly will i be able to do all these?

[eternal helm]

oh yeah its installed right

[grizzled bloom]

76 is perfectly normal

[eternal helm]

100%

you wouldnt even get to bios with it installed wrong

[kindred rover]

Ok.. thanks..

[grizzled bloom]

It's also designed so the CPU won't fit in the socket without forcing it in unless it's in correctly

[eternal helm]

probs has ADL and had to use more force than they thought it should need imo

which is kinda annoying with adl, youll think you installed it wrong since the locking mechanism can feel so bad

[kindred rover]

76 with stock cooler... Idle at 33c

[eternal helm]

what cpu is it?

[kindred rover]

That was my main worry.. i was thinking that inccorect orientation will boot the pc but will crash my system

[kindred rover]

I3 10105f

[eternal helm]

yeah its all good

temps are fine and its installed right yeah

[kindred rover]

So incorrect orientation will not even boot my pc to bios also?

[eternal helm]

if you could even jam it in wrong, it wouldnt fit that way

youd know pretty quick is was wrong

[kindred rover]

Ok..

Thanks

[eternal helm]

np

[grizzled bloom]

Correct, if it was incorrectly installed it would not even get to bios or boot

Each of those pins has a specific purpose, and they won't work if they're touching the wrong things

[kindred rover]

Hey i have a psu of 450w thats currently in use with my build:
I3 10105f
Gtx 1050ti
8gb ddr4 ram
And a hdd

Planning to buy a ups of 1000va.. will it be able to hold the watt?

[midnight pollen]

A 1000va ups should work with that config

[quartz zinc]

Can someone tell me what lga 2066 cpus are used for in comparison to threadripper processors?

I know theyre both workstation but they perform differently in certain tasks

[vast meadow]

Threadripper basically dominates and lga 2066 was intel watching and going this is fine

[cursive epoch]

lol

2066 was honestly just sad

[vast meadow]

They where like oh crap we need to release a cpu for hedt because amd is

Uh have this

Competition

[naive pendant]

Burn?

[scenic solar]

Looks like it

[naive pendant]

Thought so

[vast meadow]

Looks like oil spill or something

[naive pendant]

I don't think i have to replace the motherboard. I have to remove the precision boost overdrive thing though

[cursive epoch]

3400g doesn't have pbo

[grizzled bloom]

It does, it's just not very good

[agile jolt]

Whenever I build a pc it feels like I'm gonna break something

So expensive yet everything feels flimsy

[amber canopy]

that doesnt look like a burn

[vast meadow]

Nah they're built like a brick

[agile jolt]

I know they won't break

Just feels like they will

Like a large Lego set imo

Very solid but feels off

[deep plank]

how do i see what my motherboard is? i need a new cpu

[cursive epoch]

look at your mobo box

or use hwinfo to identify your board model and brand

[cerulean wadi]

Even cpuz would say it.

[deep plank]

thanks

how do i go about finding the best cpu for my motherboard?

hwinfo is installed

[devout moth]

cursarius#6413 has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

[deep plank]

k

[cursive epoch]

that one isn't worth upgrading tbh

[idle nebula]

Can I ask about potential hardware issues in here?

[drowsy nymph]

Yes

[idle nebula]

hmm, can I add pngs?

[drowsy nymph]

You might need a role first actually.

So you can post images.

[idle nebula]

How do I go about getting a role?

[drowsy nymph]

talk in chat like usual.

[grizzled bloom]

You can DM me what you're trying to post and I'll put it up

[idle nebula]

Sent!

[grizzled bloom]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1004242582068543550/1004242665526792292/LGA1700PIN.png

[idle nebula]

Thank you @grizzled bloom

[dull flint]

bent pin?

[grizzled bloom]

Looks like it

[idle nebula]

I can't tell myself. Appears kind of like rust, though I know that's unlikely

[dull flint]

good thing you showed us this because that can make or break some mobos

you could rma, or alternatively, if EXTREMELY CAREFUL

try bend it back with something thin

[idle nebula]

Was about to pop the CPU in and took a quick look. Didn't see it at first.

[grizzled bloom]

Depending on which pin it is and if it's contacting the wrong pad it may or may not work if you put the CPU in

[dull flint]

yea I check the pins too before I pop it in, good eye

[idle nebula]

Yeah, I don't think I'd be able to. Shaky hands and all

[grizzled bloom]

If you're within your return/exchange period you can get it replaced

[idle nebula]

Just delivered yesterday

[dull flint]

ye rma then

it's very hard to do

even if you have good hands

[grizzled bloom]

Take a pic from a slightly different angle first

[idle nebula]

Sure. 1 min

[grizzled bloom]

But yeah you can just claim shipping damage or something, DOA

[idle nebula]

bah, I think I'll just RMA. It sounds like it's a pretty obvious defect—thanks for confirming, y'all. I really appreciate it.

Good nights!

[grizzled bloom]

G'night, sorry it's not better news

[naive pendant]

What was it then? It felt oily when I touched it

[cerulean wadi]

Looks like it was a liquid/oil of some sort, but idk

[naive pendant]

Guess so, it didn't smell burnt. Something else probably smoked last night

[naive pendant]

Someone said it was flux so my mobo was so hot it was melting the solder

[grizzled bloom]

Flux? I doubt that, most of it burns off in the soldering process

But if it was in there from the factory it's possible they spilled it

[naive pendant]

My vrms caused it. Have to remove the heatsink

[vast meadow]

That doesn't sound right

Just looks like cosmetic damage from oil or something anyway

[naive pendant]

still, i wanna remove the heatsink just to be sure

[dull flint]

There's talk of the 13400 having e cores

[vast meadow]

I hope so

[dull flint]

6c 4e

[long geyser]

0p 6e lets goooooo

[burnt spear]

I've mixed feelings about it

I still want to stay on w11

[dull flint]

you mean w10

lol

[burnt spear]

Yeah that

Brain no work

Supposedly in leaked benches 7600x beats 13900 in single core

Not sure how much I believe that, but if that's true am5 might be the way to go after all

[long geyser]

AMD really need to work on issues like USB dropout/audio issues tho

[burnt spear]

I know they're big issues, but I've never had any of those issues with my 3600

I know they exist, sips has had it

[long geyser]

Still just considering Intel as AMD has yet to solve such issues on AM4, despite how long its been. Luckily its not as often as it once was, but it should be near non-existent now.

[dull flint]

I've had the issues too but enough bios updates and a mobo swap and they've been gone for a while now

[burnt spear]

I'm fine wirh either one, I'll just go whichever is better price/perf

[dull flint]

but new platform, issues are def gonna happen

[long geyser]

Fair enough. Ill most likely go Intel unless AMD perf is way better or price/perf is utterly terrible on Intel. The issues I have are much easier to deal with then what Sips has, but I have lost my trust in AMD actually fully fixing software issues now.

They seem to like to half fix things. Which do be kinda sad. Hopefully AMD does well this time around, but I dont feel like waiting a year to see what issues pop up and what issues get fixed

[burnt spear]

Ddr5 is also a big part of it for a lot of people

With intel I'll be able to use my current ram, but again if amd is that much better I'd spend the extra on ddr5

Since I'll have a full pc to sell it'll more than pay for it

[long geyser]

Oh also that. Will def be a fun part to upgrade

[dull flint]

I really wonder what the scaling will be like tbh, ddr5 will do a fair bit with the infinity fabric, then also the node upgrade

I feel like in that sense it's gonna be really good, but also barely any data and then meanwhile intel cramming everything with e cores and also this

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/980676251779997746/1004227098489127074/unknown.png

4.7/4.8 e is insane even if it was sub ambient

This is threadripper power

[long geyser]

Potentially, havent really looked at leaks for what IF clocks could be like. Tho current gen is already limited by IF for nice mem OC, so just moving to DDR5 with a meh IF upgrade might be not so interesting.

[dull flint]

maybe

if it's all gear 2 IF IMC then I will be disappointed

needs to be gear 1 synced to really be game changing imo

[burnt spear]

I like your funny words magic man

[dull flint]

but that's a weird thing with AMD even if desynced it'll still be a bit

[long geyser]

IF will need a pretty massive clock boost to keep up with DDR5, or a massive change to not care as much about IF/MEM sync, or a massive change to not lose as much perf in 1:2 IF to MEM ratio

[dull flint]

yeah pretty much

[long geyser]

Or just keep it at DDR5 4600MT/s 😄

[dull flint]

well that's what I was saying yesterday

It would be some deja vu if they prefer low frequency ddr5

suddenly 16gbit samsung b becomes prime for z4

[long geyser]

With how adamant AMD is on DDR5, I dont feel like they'd try to stick with low freq DDR5

[dull flint]

low frequency but tight timings

ofc they probably wouldn't if they can help it

Also fwiw btw I don't think I can see the frequency bump being all that works to keep it relevant now btw

[dull flint]

not after this

[long geyser]

I mean ye, there always do be more then freq

[dull flint]

ofc, but the 14%-ish gain of going to TSMC 5nm I don't think is quite enough

imagine this, the gains of a 13900K going to 7800 MT/s on newer Hynix ddr5, running some 5.7-5.8/ then say, 4.6 e. If we consider the clock gains and node shrink, I feel like the IF and ddr5 and how they do it will really be the difference there

fwiw 12900K on older hynix M doing 6800-ish as a good sample already pretty plenty fast even against x3d both at a full tune

but then again I see b650 and low end zen 4 too hard to ignore

cos you don't really get that push that you will from an Intel K chip

But also Intel 13th still ddr4 so

ima wear myself out with all these numbers if I think too hard about it

[long geyser]

Rumors be rumors, need to wait until tested info comes out before real decision. Dont wear yourself out yet lol

[dull flint]

NEED MOAR Z4 LEAKS

[hard leaf]

i wont count on 650 mobos until next year xD, probably only 670s this year 😛

also a lot of infor on rpl, but almost none about am4 😦

[dull flint]

yea but also 13th gen and ddr4 prolly gonna sweep a lot of that

[hard leaf]

the lack of leaks on am4 is diturbing

[vast meadow]

Well there's some, amd have an upcoming conference in the next few weeks iirc tho

[hard leaf]

yeah but no unnoficial benchmarks like raptor lake

thats what i mean

to compare with raptor lake leaks

[vast meadow]

And could just have better control of the people with ES's lol

[dull flint]

UB

• grabs tin foil hat *

[vast meadow]

Oh yeah there was a 7600x review on UB

[dull flint]

[vast meadow]

"review"

[vast meadow]

[dull flint]

[long geyser]

Truly what an accurate review it was

Im glad UB exists so we can get completely unbiased reviews

[peak sail]

I am wondering why only two of three of my AIO cooling fans are spinning?

[amber canopy]

tbh.... 7800X > 7800X

[dry nacelle]

I'd first check to make sure it's fully plugged in. Then I'd disconnect it and try a different power source. If it still doesn't work you probably have a dead fan

[peak sail]

It's the bottom fan, I'll dig it out this weeked

[burnt spear]

disagree

7800x>7800x

[amber canopy]

im sorry but you're just wrong. the 7800X is better than the other 7800X because it appeared in a slightly different position on the vertical axis compared to the other one on a yotube chonnel i watch.

[dull flint]

Hey I think we can at least all agree that,
7800X>7800X=7800X

[burnt spear]

dude

you can't say something so controversial here

that aint right

[amber canopy]

that's almost as bad as naming the brand that shall not be named

[burnt spear]

nzxt?

[amber canopy]

no

[burnt spear]

c*rsair?

[amber canopy]

yes..... 💀

[dull flint]

No, 7800X

[amber canopy]

https://tenor.com/view/kaboom-boom-nuke-nuclear-bomb-gif-20734003

[frosty depot]

Corsair is bae.

[amber canopy]

https://tenor.com/view/kaboom-boom-nuke-nuclear-bomb-gif-20734003

[vernal cosmos]

/ban

[cursive epoch]

get banned

for saying sus word

[frosty depot]

Only their 4000/5000D :P

[grizzled bloom]

Corsair power supplies though

[burnt spear]

cv and cxm would like a word

[grizzled bloom]

CXM isn't that bad but you have admit, they have a lot more good models than bad

Which is more than EVGA can say

[burnt spear]

fair

[hollow thorn]

Smh

[hollow thorn]

You underestimate EVGA

[burnt spear]

doesnt outweight the overall amount of terrible products they have tho

[hollow thorn]

EVGA just has more psus

G+ G2 G3 G5 G6 all from good to great

[burnt spear]

gt also good

just not great

[grizzled bloom]

I'd do a spreadsheet with % power supplies from the tier list in each tier from each brand but it's bed time lol

[hollow thorn]

Ye going for the numbered g- psus

[burnt spear]

also a good few other hoinorable mentions

p2 and p3, iirc

[hollow thorn]

Yes yes

Plat and titanium variants of all those psus

[grizzled bloom]

Does that outweigh ask the N and W models though, all of which are E or F tier?

There's like 3 of each

[hollow thorn]

Iirc w3 and n3 are tier c instead

[grizzled bloom]

And the B ones

[hollow thorn]

And the B's are either tier C or tier B

[grizzled bloom]

E tier "EVGA | B <=600W – BV – W2 / W2 / W3"

No idea why they have W2 twice

[hollow thorn]

Oh yea just B is a thing

Lol

But iirc b3 b5 etc are tier c and tier b

Br and ba were low priority c iirc

Too lazy to actually check

[grizzled bloom]

Low C "EVGA | BA – BR – GD 2019 -B* – Supernova M1 1300W"

How did they manage to get a 1300W unit in low C

[hollow thorn]

Probably really old unit

Same with like Corsair iirc builder 2013 or whatever on the older ltt list

[grizzled bloom]

Wait that was speculative C

[hollow thorn]

Cultist one removed most older psus

[grizzled bloom]

There's isn't a N3 on the list but W3 was E

[hollow thorn]

Dunno

[grizzled bloom]

M1 appears to be a fairly recent mining focused unit

[hollow thorn]

Wacky stuff, just never heard of it

[grizzled bloom]

Possibly only sold in China

[amber canopy]

and 900D

and some of their ddr3

[vast meadow]

And txm, rm, rmx

[amber canopy]

oh yea those too lol

I did have an RMx unit explode though

💀

[vast meadow]

Skill issue?

[frosty depot]

Yeah. Skill issue.

[amber canopy]

more like OCP issue

it was 4am when it exploded

you know how badly that scared me lmao

[burnt spear]

Have you tried turning it off and on again

[amber canopy]

[frosty depot]

I.. was having issues with my computer at work last night not ringing up items... I... turned it off and on again as my first form of troubleshooting and.. it was fixed 😄

[left steppe]

on the b560M asus mobo can you take off the shell for the usb and mobo slots go? there’s screws on them and i’m not sure if you can remove it. i have pictures of what i’m talking about

[vast meadow]

Do you mean the io shield? And if so why would you

[left steppe]

i think so because my gpu just barley needs more room

wait not the io shield

i sent them to you

[vast meadow]

Ohh

It shouldn't have any issues

Gpus are lifted above and asus would have checked that

[left steppe]

and if i can’t remove it could i use the other pci sloth

[vast meadow]

Technically yes although that slot might not have the full 16 lanes and even if it does it might perform a bit worse cuz it's going through the chipset instead of going straight to cpu

[hollow thorn]

time for fun stuff
https://youtu.be/105IJiGbGsg

[peak sail]

The 7800X is a thing

[cursive epoch]

in the future

unless you meant intel

[amber canopy]

honestly. the 1650 is better than the 1650

let's be real here.

[cursive epoch]

huh??

[amber canopy]

The 1650 is just flat out better than the 1650

I guess you could say the 1650 v2 is better too

[cursive epoch]

[amber canopy]

And the 1650 v3 is better than the 1650 v2

And the 1650 v4 is better than the 1650 v3

[cursive epoch]

oh

i get it now lol

[amber canopy]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/avatars/632973476705206284/a_15305d14452480141eb5e10dd6214c8f.gif?size=4096&ignore=true).

[dry nacelle]

I disagree. It's not as good as the 1650

[amber canopy]

well, the 1650 technically has more "cores" than the 1650

[cyan raft]

But the 1650 has more “vram” than the 1650

[long geyser]

But the 1650 has more "1650" than the 1650

[eternal helm]

oh we're talking about the 6500xt? sweet

[amber canopy]

no, we're talking about the 1650 and the 1650. duh.

[eternal helm]

6500xt close 'nuf

they both have a 650 in them 👀

I think I'm onto something here

[dull flint]

Well we definitely know 6500 is better than 1650

[grizzled bloom]

Is it though? It's pretty close at gen 3

[dull flint]

More number making more betterer

[grizzled bloom]

Can't argue with that logic

[vernal cosmos]

1630>1080?

[cursive epoch]

9800gx2 world's best gpu

[dull flint]

Bro 13900K wait for it

[cursive epoch]

that's cpu

[cerulean wadi]

1 of my favs. Back when dual gpu & SLI specifically was pretty good. With how tech is now they could easily make a good dual gpu card, even if it was like a 4060GX2. Perhaps make the OS think they're 1 gpu (but actually work good, idk).

[grizzled bloom]

What do you think AMD is doing with multi chip module next gen? That's basically dual GPU right there

[eternal helm]

But sadge only MCM for cache and io

The concept is neat but rdna3 is just gonna be dipping their feetsies in the water

[vast meadow]

Rdn4

[dusk canopy]

Is it okay to ask a quick tech support question here? I’m looking at my mobo, and the manual, and I can’t tell which are my CLRTC pins. Been trying to fix this for almost 5 hours already and I’m desperate

[cursive epoch]

What are you trying to do with it?

[dusk canopy]

Just clear my cmos, because removing the battery and letting it sit overnight/putting a brand new one in didn’t work

[vast meadow]

Did you remember to also unplug the pc from the wall?

[dusk canopy]

The issue is the manual is weird and I think im looking at the right pins, but it’s not working, and I can’t tell because the label is also weird

[dusk canopy]

Yes :)

[vast meadow]

Then your cmos is cleared

[dusk canopy]

Thought so

[vast meadow]

What happened? Just not turning on? Crashed?

[dusk canopy]

I have an ASUS 99x-A and it’s throwing 00 after a power outage (I have a good surge protector and it’s been through worse) so it seems like a normal bios issue but I’m wondering if it’s actually borked. Literally everything is showing signs of life, except no boot

Even tried usb bios backflash

[vast meadow]

Hmm

I'd start by just reseating ram and power connectors

[dusk canopy]

Did that too, sadly

Still getting solid red light for CPU and 00 on mobo

Took out GPU, disconnect peripherals, disconnected extra SATAs except boot drive, out of ideas other than spending money lol

[cursive epoch]

What cpu and mobo are you pairing with?

[dusk canopy]

Intel i7 6800k, Asus x99-A*

[cinder saffron]

Anyone have trouble upgrading ram in an Alienware aurora r12?

[frosty depot]

I already found the problem.. Alienware.

[naive pendant]

I got a few questions. I'm currently looking for a new motherboard as my current one is very, very bad. I'm looking at the b550-A pro which retails at $130 my total budget is $140 I really don't want to go over that. Here are my questions.

1 ) What should I look for in a motherboard?
2 ) What is a DIMM slot?
3 ) What is Direct X?
4 ) How many PCIE slots should I have?
5 ) What is a PCIE slot?
6 ) Are there any other motherboards that are similar to this one that are better and the same price?

[eternal turtle]

you should look for something that fits your needs of rear io and general features

dimm slot is a memory/ram slot

direct x is a graphics api that any modern gpu can utilise (dont worry about it essentially)

you should have as many pcie slots as youre going to need

pcie slot is for devices like gpus, wifi cards, etc

[vagrant mist]

2-5 could also be googled, though

[eternal turtle]

question, especially for a new buiold, why are you getting a new board

[naive pendant]

Ik im just very dumb and like to ask here because I normally get a more in depth explanation

[eternal turtle]

at least if you have a 5900x, why are you upgrading the board

[naive pendant]

because it bottlenecks it badly

it has 1 vrm

[eternal turtle]

your 580 bottlenecks it 💀

is it an a320 board?

[naive pendant]

no its a b450

[eternal turtle]

send a pic if you could, please

[naive pendant]

one sec

[eternal turtle]

not a great pic

[naive pendant]

It’s a bad pic cuz my coolers in the way

[eternal turtle]

what model of board is it

[naive pendant]

It’s the b450m hdv R4.0

Is that what you mean?

[eternal turtle]

mhm

that has a lot more than one vrm

[naive pendant]

oh someone told me it had one vrm

and that it needed to get replaced

[eternal turtle]

thats a 6+1, 6 for cpu, 1 for ram (all you need, anything more is overkill for ram)

i really dont think that your board is hurting erformance in any meaningful way, focus on upgrading that poor 580

[naive pendant]

Ok sweet I thought the board needed a upgrade because a lot of people told me it was horrible

[eternal turtle]

its not a great board, thats for sure, but its not holding your cpu back

gpu is what you should focus on, especially as the 580 is a pretty old card now

5 year old midrange card

[naive pendant]

So should I save up my money for a 3070 or a 3080 next or should I upgrade my ram because my ram is bad too

its oloy 16gb ram 2800

[eternal turtle]

focus on gpu, then ram, then board if you feel the need to

[naive pendant]

ok souds good

thanks!

[eternal turtle]

mhm, no problem

[vast meadow]

1. wanted IO and good vrms and good price
2. ram slot
3. an api used for gaming literally 0 to do with a motherboard
4. you need one pcie slot for your gpu, and maybe another for an m.2 expansion or wifi/Bluetooth card
5. ^
   6)https://pcpartpicker.com/product/nHxbt6/gigabyte-x570-aorus-elite-atx-am4-motherboard-x570-aorus-elite

[vast meadow]

That was a joke because the vrms are awful, it would hold back a 5900x @eternal turtle my b450 ds3h can get up to 91c in low ambient temp with a ryzen 5 3600 ffs

[eternal turtle]

thats 20c off of rated max, and with how much airflow he seems to have on it, i dont think it would be throttling, afterall, people get 3600x's working great on a320

[vast meadow]

Yes but he has a 5900x

I have more airflow on my board

More fans n stuff

[eternal turtle]

i really dont feel like his bottleneck is his board, especially in such a gpu limited scenario

maybe prioritize board over ram, but not over gpu

[vast meadow]

No but his board is melting rn lol

[naive pendant]

Wait so what should I do get a new motherboard or am I good

@vast meadow and @eternal turtle

[grizzled bloom]

Your board is probably fine, you won't be using all the cores at full load usually anyway

[naive pendant]

Ok thanks

hey, does the A320M/ac work with the 5600? it says the a320m works with Am4 and the 5600 is am4 socket but some websites say it wont.

[grizzled bloom]

Technically yes it will but you'll need to update the bios using another CPU first

[naive pendant]

alright. will my 2600 work to update the bios?

[grizzled bloom]

Yep

[naive pendant]

alright, thanks!

[grizzled bloom]

It's the asrock one right?
I double checked and the latest version 7.20 supports the 5600

[naive pendant]

yes its asrock!

yeah thats what i found too

[vast meadow]

You can wait yeah

[hard leaf]

yummy, am5 confirmed on september 15th :3

[naive pendant]

do i update with this? https://www.asrock.com/support/index.asp?cat=BIOS then just the a320m pro 4 one?

[grizzled bloom]

Is yours the pro 4 model?

[naive pendant]

idk but thats rhe only bios update i see

[grizzled bloom]

https://download.asrock.com/BIOS/AM4/A320Mac(7.20)ROM.zip

[naive pendant]

thank you!

[grizzled bloom]

It's this one right? https://www.asrock.com/mb/AMD/A320Mac/index.asp#BIOS

[naive pendant]

yeah it is

[burnt spear]

Hmm

Any release dates for rpl you know of?

Am5 looking more and more tempting

All I can find is sometime in late 2022

[hard leaf]

no, only rumors

am5 on the other hand was officially announced

rumors on rpl point to mid october at the earliest

yeah am5 seems pretty good so far

[burnt spear]

Mm

Yeah I'll probably end up doing that then

[hard leaf]

they seem very good on paper

still want to see the infinity frequency with ddr5

[burnt spear]

I should have enough for ddr5 anyways, since I've got about $450 for cpu and mobo atm, and will be selling/parting out my pc which will easily cover the rest

[hard leaf]

i have 900 stashed for mobo/cpu/cooler/mem as well

[burnt spear]

I'll probably go for 7700x if I end up going am5

[hard leaf]

either rpl or am5... intel need to make an official announcemnt soon

or am5 will eat some of the users

[burnt spear]

Yeah

I'll also consider 12th gen if prices drop enough

[frosty depot]

I have had $ set aside just waiting for 13th gen to drop.

[grizzled bloom]

They're trying to rush for an October launch so supply might not be great

That gives AMD at least a full month advantage on what many sources say is a good platform

[burnt spear]

Mm

Yeah am5 is looking more and more tempting

[grizzled bloom]

Personally I'd wait for Zen4 3D if gaming. Zen4 is expected to be VERY close to rpl in performance, so 3D will totally wreck it. It's expected around Q2.

[burnt spear]

I've already waited like 3-4 months for this, I'm ready to build

Zen 4 will already be overkill for me anyways

[grizzled bloom]

Fair 'nuff

[brisk cedar]

Do you guys think the B550 is a good option for a Ryzen 5000 series

[hard leaf]

it is

[austere epoch]

Would only plugging in one of these cause an issue?

[hard leaf]

no

you only need one 8 pin eps cable to work properly

[austere epoch]

will it make my cpu run slower? or

[hard leaf]

the second connector is there just in case of extreme overclocking, if you dont do that then its ok to ignore it

[austere epoch]

Dont plan on it!

Im just gonna run stock anyway

thanks!

[hard leaf]

👍

[vast meadow]

Only if you're doing sub ambient oc

[hard leaf]

gotta love those LN2 cooling towers

[vast meadow]

Got a problem?

[hard leaf]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-6VGXLW6hWM

#computerofffloorteam

[cursive epoch]

when i have no desk space

[vast meadow]

Problem there is they assume you have carpet

[cursive epoch]

i deal with it by cleaning a lot

and my house lacks carpet

[vast meadow]

Bro you should see how little desk space sips has

[cursive epoch]

yeah i saw

[vast meadow]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/574740748801540107/938929526975643698/IMG_20220203_144741.jpg

Tinny

Like why

Pain

[hard leaf]

i like what i see

[cursive epoch]

oof

i have way less

[hard leaf]

👍

[cursive epoch]

only enough space for mouse, keeb and monitor

rig is on floor

kek

[vast meadow]

Meanwhile i have a steel series qck heavy

[cursive epoch]

it's not really a desk

it's like a shelf

[vast meadow]

Oof

[cursive epoch]

which isn't very tall

can act as a desk

but a tiny desk

[vast meadow]

I uploaded a pic of my setup in #build-pics :p

[hard leaf]

thats a 4000d?

love the chair tho

[vast meadow]

Yeah it is

Chair is okay

Would be better if back wasn't screwed to base

[long geyser]

Okay, lemme imbed computer in floor so it off floor

[grizzled bloom]

Suspend it from the ceiling

[scenic solar]

No need for a case tho...

[dull flint]

"Yeah, I have a high airflow rig"

[scenic solar]

Roomflow

[dry nacelle]

point a box fan at it for maximum airflow

[dim cloak]

Just put it in the freezer

[grizzled bloom]

Too much condensation

[amber canopy]

i have my server on the floor

[dry nacelle]

that's not a server, that's a desk

there's a mouse and keyboard on it

[amber canopy]

bruh

lol it basically is a 2nd desk though

[errant grail]

is it normal not to see my integrated graphics in my task manager?

[grizzled bloom]

Yes

The bios might disable it if a dedicated GPU is detected

[errant grail]

oh isee i saw some ytber have dedicated gpu and have integrated gpu at the same time so i was just wondering if it was normal

[dim cloak]

what mobo you got?

[errant grail]

auros

[dim cloak]

oof

[rancid nest]

Hey guys I have a
Ryzen 5 5600G and a
B550 mobo
I just built it and it isn’t booting, question is do I need to flash the bios?

[vast meadow]

Possibly yes

[rancid nest]

Should I go ahead and try?

Cause the pc turns on and all but doesn’t boot to my monitor

[vast meadow]

Yeah no harm

[vast meadow]

If you pull up your manual look up the d4 code

It will tell you what's wrong

[rancid nest]

This is what it says

[vast meadow]

Weird

If nothing on the screen at all when you turn on probably update bios yeah

[rancid nest]

Ok I guess I’ll try that

[dull flint]

16 e cores looking strong

[grizzled bloom]

As buildzoid called them, cinebench asics

[dull flint]

Lol

They do help for some other benches too tho lol

But I like his definition

[frosty depot]

@stiff kraken my LGA1700 CPU Bracket thing says it has left the shipping country.

[stiff kraken]

yeah same this morning

woke up to an email from aliexpress about it

[frosty depot]

Noice. Must be on same boat :P

[stiff kraken]

probably is

[frosty depot]

Oh. Apparently I got the email yesterday

I thought I got it today. I must not have checked email yesterday.

[stiff kraken]

maybe not the same boat then

you in the US?

[frosty depot]

Still though.. I'm curious to see who gets theirs first

Yeah I'm in the US

You are too right?

[stiff kraken]

yeah

my email came 2 hours ago

22:35 china time i guess

[frosty depot]

Hm. Let me see what mine is

[stiff kraken]

saw someone on hws today selling a 12900K + contact frame for $430

[frosty depot]

Oh nice

Idk if I can find the time on mobile. I might have to wait til I wake up to check

[frosty depot]

Is that on aliexpress website?

[stiff kraken]

yeah

[scenic solar]

How much time do you guys usually wait for AliExpress - products (from China) to get to the us?

[stiff kraken]

3-4 weeks

[grave crest]

could someone be in a call rq and help me undervolt my 9900k

I know how to get in there n all that but idk what I should actually be changing necessarily

rn my pc runs quite hot bc hits 1.35-1.4v

[eternal helm]

How hot does it run in cinebench?

[grave crest]

like 95c

with a 240mm aio and 2 noctua a12s with good airflow

i'm not even overclocked at all, under 5ghz

(actually it's 4.86ghz but I just realized it's dropping bc of the temps : ( )

[frosty depot]

@stiff kraken tracking updated. Said it passed customs at 9pm last night.

So.. we may very well be getting it much sooner than projected delivery date?

[stiff kraken]

seems like it

fingers crossed

[magic forge]

So, quick question about the Reset-SW pin headers.

Is it normal that if I reset via chassis, it doesn't reboot my PC via ACPI? It flat-out kills the operating system and starts it back up.

[grizzled bloom]

Sounds like something a bios update might fix

[magic forge]

a

[stiff kraken]

@frosty depot

cleared customs apparently

[frosty depot]

Not sure why mine says the 10th at 5:30am when its only midnight. Lol

[stiff kraken]

china time

[frosty depot]

Ah. So 9:30pm on the 9th

Lookin like you're gonna get yours first lol

[flat hound]

is the 10105 good?

[dull flint]

what are you intended to use it with?

it's worth spending a little extra for a 12100F btw

[flat hound]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/WVL88r

was trying to go on cheaper side

[dull flint]

is this just an office pc

?

[flat hound]

low end gaming

[dull flint]

you can definitely do better than this

gimme a minute

[flat hound]

ok

[dull flint]

wait lemme fix something

@flat hound wifi?

[flat hound]

usb wifi adapter

or lan

[dull flint]

lan would be better

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/mX3Ld9

this will be a lot better, it's cheaper, and it'll have the headroom to stick a decent gpu in later (RX 6600/6600 XT will do well here)

[burnt spear]

I would do this https://pcpartpicker.com/list/L2vBzf

it is definitely worth the extra over the 5600g build

[vast meadow]

No wifis tho

[ruby thistle]

Hey guys i recently got gifted a rtx 3070 from my cousin and i was wondering whats a good mobo thats powerful enough for it?

[cursive epoch]

mobo doesn't matter for gpu

if your current cpu is good enough it'll be fine

[ruby thistle]

How about psu?

[limber dragon]

probably need at least a 750w

[cursive epoch]

a good one tho

you can refer to cultists network list pinned in #cases-psu-and-cooling

[ruby thistle]

I should be good with psu i got a 750

But for cpu i got a ryzen 5600x

[eternal helm]

Which model specifically?

For psu

[cursive epoch]

that's fine if the psu is a good unit

but we do need to know which exact one you have

[ruby thistle]

Got a 850w*

EVGA 850 GQ, 80+ GOLD 850W, Semi Modular,

[cursive epoch]

that should be good enough

[ruby thistle]

Even with the ryzen 5600x?

Just making sure before i put this bad boy on

Alr ty ty

[frosty depot]

@stiff kraken My order is 2 states away from me on the West Coast.

[stiff kraken]

nice

mine hasn't updated since customs cleared

[frosty depot]

Mine arrived customs on the west coast shores in cali. Idk where you are.

[brisk cedar]

Is 60-70 degrees a normal temp for a 5800X while under load

[cursive epoch]

yes

that's pretty good

for cpu anything below throttle point is all fine lol

which is usually 90-100c

[brisk cedar]

Highest its ever been was 80

[grizzled bloom]

5800X is notoriously difficult to cool, you're fine if it's under 95

[dull flint]

https://www.ghacks.net/2022/08/10/security-vulnerabilities-found-in-intel-and-amd-processors/

that AMD one, big oof reading on it. Suggesting SMT disabled for best case scenario

[vast meadow]

Oof that would be a huge perf hit

[dull flint]

[vast meadow]

[dull flint]

what's a big takeaway from this is there's an extremely high chance Zen 4 is also affected

[cursive epoch]

oof

[final eagle]

b550 or x570?

[dull flint]

b550 normally

unless the x570 is terribly cheap a b550 will usually do everything you need a mobo to do

[vast meadow]

Neither if you're buying new unless you're going 5950x for workstation reasons or something

Then it honestly depends on the selection of specific board models for the price

[dull flint]

yeah if this is a new system, B660 imo

[vast meadow]

X570 aorus master was like 130 last week or something

Very few niche cases where 5950x would be better option

Like multiple vms

[dull flint]

Cinebench macheen

[vast meadow]

Iirc 12900k beats/equal to 5950 in cb

[dull flint]

it is but we don't talk about that

[final eagle]

I got an ASUS ROG b550 that I havent put in yet. I am seeing x570's going for pretty cheap rn

[dull flint]

is this a new system tho or are you upgrading your AM4?

[final eagle]

building a new pc, I have a 5900x

[dull flint]

how long have you had the 5900X and how long the mobo

[final eagle]

5900x for 6 months and just bought the mobo

[dull flint]

ah ok

Strix boards on AM4 are very meh if you ever plan to do any OC

[final eagle]

probably wont OC

[dull flint]

Aorus Pro/Master/Vision D-P do a lot better

[cursive epoch]

ocing would be a nightmare on h510 elite anyway

[dull flint]

eh?? H510 elite????

[cursive epoch]

yes

[dull flint]

ok forget the board, change the case

[final eagle]

no, I have a lian li lancool 2

[cursive epoch]

ah

[dull flint]

oh lancool 2 is good

[cursive epoch]

different case now

that's good

[dull flint]

if you can take the board back without any restocking fees tho I would swap for Aorus pro

aorus pro is a goat

[vast meadow]

Just use that then unless you can still return it and get a cheaper option

[cyan raft]

What’s wrong with them?

…other than Asus’ weird PBO settings

[final eagle]

not in any hurry, just returned my 6800xt

[dull flint]

just meh topology iirc, so ram oc is not great

most strix b550's I seen didn't handle ram oc well

ofc exceptions to every rule

[cyan raft]

Ahh ok

Do the Crosshair mobos also have that same issue?

Because I’m already getting pretty damn good results with it

[dull flint]

crosshair is really good

both dark and regular

[cyan raft]

Love my Hero lol

[dull flint]

I really should have got one, instead I got an aero g and it's been meh

but on the flipside, it's been solid too. No issues unlike on asus where it did random stuff like bios resets

[cyan raft]

I got mine when X570 was first released in a bundle with a 3700x for $400

[dull flint]

that's pretty good

[cyan raft]

Still using it to this day except with a 5900x now

Had to RMA it at one point since the first one had a faulty BIOS chip

Got a brand new one from Asus within a week

[dull flint]

still, you got a crosshair

[cyan raft]

they stole my box

[dull flint]

[orchid salmon]

whats a cheap way to get 3800mhz cl14 ram?

[cursive epoch]

erm, well

look at hardwareswap on reddit i suppose

there's no "cheap" way to get 3800c14

[orchid salmon]

alright thanks

[vast meadow]

Get ballistix and oc it manually is the only real cheap way

[orchid salmon]

like a 4000mhz kit?

[vast meadow]

Nah 3000mhz or 3200 or 3600

Ballistix is great for manually ocing

Although they're no longer in production so you might have to buy used

[orchid salmon]

wow thank you

[vast meadow]

np

[mild jackal]

Could find some 3200c14 2x8 b-die for <$100 if you look around. Especially used.

[dry nacelle]

new ram finally installed and set up

[sage kernel]

is crossair good

[vast meadow]

Corsair make some good products some not soo good

[amber canopy]

crossair

[hollow thorn]

assuming board, which crosshair

[vast meadow]

Well wasn't sure if they meant crosshair or corsair lol

[naive pendant]

my friends pc keeps rebooting on him everytime he tries to start it he can get into the bios but he cant get to log in screen

anyone know any fixes?

[cursive epoch]

sounds like it overheating

[naive pendant]

Tell him "F5 in bios" Set it all default and try it.

[naive pendant]

Otherwise - we need more info, or a video of it failing so we can figure that missing information out.
Troubleshooting requires as much info as possible about the problem.

[sage kernel]

what about ram

[vast meadow]

ddr3 yes, dd4 no ddr5 ehh

[sage kernel]

what’s the dif

[grizzled bloom]

Between what? DDR versions? They're different generations

Corsair DDR4 is almost exclusively garbage. Some of it is so bad it can't run at rated speeds.

[kindred rover]

Whats the max limit vcore voltage for i3 10105f? Anyone any idea on this?

[grizzled bloom]

You can only change it on a Z490 or Z590 board so it doesn't matter. It's also locked so you can't increase it, only decrease.

[sage kernel]

so what memory should i get

[vast meadow]

one that matches what your cpu and motherboard uses

[dull flint]

Easy answer is the cheapest 2x8 or 2x16 DDR4 3200 kit you can find

That's usually silicon power in the US, iirc this is a ddr4 build

[limber dragon]

ngl all of my corsair ddr4 has been decently solid

sr cjr on z390 https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/328891236918493184/727243761716953189/unknown.png

and sr 4gbit edie on z590 https://hwbot.org/submission/4804354_fitvelkiz_aida64___memory_read_ddr4_sdram_67556_points

[modest bear]

If I ran two m.2 ssd's on my Gigabyte X570 Aorus Elite motherboard, would I have to lower the amount of dedicated lanes to my GPU?

[cursive epoch]

no

[modest bear]

how many lanes would my GPU get?

[cursive epoch]

it would still get full x16

[scenic solar]

@modest bear this is how you should calculate the PCIe lanes available, you jus have to Google how many your chipset and CPU offer

[limber dragon]

or ya know

[scenic solar]

The manual

[hollow thorn]

just a btw but that won't matter for how specific boards split pcie lanes

[limber dragon]

and that's why ya

[hollow thorn]

yup

[cursive epoch]

RTFM ftw

[modest bear]

I'm blind and illiterate, can't rtfm btw

[cursive epoch]

lol

[cerulean wadi]

No excuse, have butler read it out. I just hire an old homeless professor to do so.

[modest bear]

have butter read? bro butter is food

[cerulean wadi]

Illiteracy strikes again

[frosty depot]

My butter reads to me every night. Yours don't?

sounds lonely.

[dull flint]

I can't believe it's butter

[modest bear]

You must have some fancy exotic butters

[frosty depot]

the most creamiest of creamy butters

[hybrid grove]

So my sister has a asrock a320m hdv r4.0 with a 2300x. She games and streams and was having issues. So I found a cheap ryzen 3600. Could her board handle that cpu?

I planned on getting her a better board at some point but for the short term would it be okay?

I just worry about the vrm temps

[grizzled bloom]

Technically yes that would be fine but unless that 3600 is under $100 it's not worth it. It's a low power processor, VRMs aren't a problem.

[long geyser]

Idk if a 3600 is even worth $80. Pretty low end now

[hybrid grove]

Forsure but It's gonna be a heck of a lot better than a 2300x lol

[long geyser]

Aye, just be careful on price was my point. Make sure to haggle and such for an alright price.

[hoary echo]

anyone know good pairing for a radeon 6600 (non xt) that im getting from my brother when he upgrades?

[grizzled bloom]

12400 is good with a B660 board like MSI Pro-A

[hoary echo]

amd options?

[grizzled bloom]

5600 and just about any B550

[hoary echo]

alright cheers

ill have a look at what there is nearby

[cinder marsh]

My PC's wifi in particular is awful and currently I am blaming my wifi adapter

Problem is, I don't know what's wrong with it

[vast meadow]

Have you installed your wifi drivers? And do you have the antennas screwed in properly?

[cinder marsh]

Yes and yes

Thiugh as of late it has been incredibly slow

[vast meadow]

Slower than usual?

[cinder marsh]

Well

I used to download at 25mb/s

[vast meadow]

Try uninstalling the drivers and installing an older version?

[cinder marsh]

I'll do that

I hope tplink wasn't a bad decision

[vast meadow]

May also try flushing dns etc

[cinder marsh]

?

[frosty depot]

I was just about to say this, then I got a customer

[vast meadow]

https://blog.hubspot.com/website/flush-dns

[frosty depot]

Hm, its missing

ipconfig /flushdns
ipconfig /registerdns
ipconfig /release
ipconfig /renew
netsh winsock reset

Restart your pc after doing these commands

[hard leaf]

man, looking at those rumors on am5... those prices are off the charts

[frosty depot]

@cinder marsh I know this is a basic question, but.. have your tried unplugging your modem/router for a few minutes and plugging it back in?

[vast meadow]

Ah my b i not a big windows troubleshooting fanatic

[cinder marsh]

Yes

I wish I could just Ethernet

But unfortunately I am subjected to wifi

[frosty depot]

Aye me too

[frosty depot]

@cinder marsh if reinstalling drivers doesn't work, try this next. Type each line and press enter

You'll need to use CMD prompt with admin

Restart pc afterwards.

[cinder marsh]

Alright, I will give that a try

[frosty depot]

Like type the first line then press enter. Type 2nd line press enter, etc.

[frosty depot]

Have you moved your pc around at all since you had good speeds?

[cinder marsh]

Once

[frosty depot]

Further or closer to the router?

And are there more walls or objects in between the router and your pc than there were before?

[cinder marsh]

Ehhhhhh it's in approximately the same location, but lower

[frosty depot]

Alright.

[cinder marsh]

There might be a couch in the way now

[errant grail]

is there a way to reset bios settings to default? in bios i have auros mb

[dull flint]

In bios it should be in like the last tab "Reset setting to default" *then save and reset

Otherwise turn the pc off, turn off the power at the psu and wait 10 seconds/press the power button to drain the system, get a small piece of wire/screwdriver and bridge the clear cmos pins on the board (need to check the manual to find them)

Not gonna go looking but some boards also will have a reset cmos button on the back io where the usb plugs are

Either way should reset the bios settings

[vast meadow]

You only need to unplug for taking out battery method btw

[frosty depot]

No holding power button ?

Just unplug then pull bat out and plug bat in, then plug back in?

[vast meadow]

I'm saying that for clear cmos pins you don't need to unplug pc or hold power or anything, just short the pins. For bat method, power down, unplug from wall, drain power, take out bat, wait 3 mins, replug

[frosty depot]

Oooo.

Man, I've been doing it the pull bat method for just shorting the pins xD

That makes life easier.

Thank you all knowing Lord Pato.

[dull flint]

I learned a thing lol

[frosty depot]

You're welcome.

[dull flint]

Thanks not pato, luv u

[frosty depot]

[vast meadow]

[frosty depot]

Is this.... what they call a love triangle?

[dull flint]

Love arrow perhaps

[vast meadow]

https://tenor.com/view/eating-popcorn-im-watching-interested-gif-14656217

[cinder marsh]

@frosty depot@vast meadow I did not try those things yet because I was on my way to bed at the time, but I just booted up my PC and got... Interesting results

I think an app or my activity later on is what slows down my PC's wifi

Because other devices in my house can maintain a consistent speed

[vast meadow]

Weird

[grizzled bloom]

You mean they've been producing DDR3 still this whole time? I thought that stopped years ago https://wccftech.com/samsung-phases-out-ddr3-memory-to-focus-on-ddr5-production-lowers-ddr4-pricing-as-demand-drops/

Yay cheaper Samsung DDR4 though

[vast meadow]

Not gonna be b die get your hopes down x)

[amber canopy]

ddr3 :(

no more gdie

time to start hogging

[untold jay]

I just got my new 5600x

But now my system won’t power on

No lights no fans nothing

[burnt spear]

Did you update bios?

[untold jay]

I don’t think I need to?

It should be on the newest

$hw