graphics-cards

[wicked hound]

I mean it can def help slightly, more money for business to expand. But sadly most of it wont be used for good use cases.

[zenith lagoon]

Exactly.

[lone pond]

gpu prices are dropping 😍

[summer condor]

Forgot how much of a chonker this card is

I wonder how much bigger the 3070ti will be

Ugh i cant wait!!!

Depending on the preset fan curve most newer cards dont spin when idle to conserve energy

[wicked hound]

Saves like 1w if the fans are off compared to low RPM. I'd say it's more of a noise thing, but still shouldnt be noticeable.

[summer condor]

Even then nowadays i really don't think fans produce much noise at all at low rpm

Idk but those wee 80 mm though but ive never actually seen one in person lol

[wicked hound]

Maybe it can save lifespan, but that is hard to tell as that'd mean more power cycles which is pretty harsh on motors.

Overall it is kinda a gimmicky feature. Hate the usage of it on lot of PSUs as many PSUs have it done badly. I ranted about it like two weeks ago in #cases-psu-and-cooling lol

rant: #cases-psu-and-cooling message

[summer condor]

Yeah. I know on the card i got coming in, evga's software lets you manually configure the fan curve yourself

[lone pond]

what’s bad about the 3070ti? like is it not good value for what you’re getting

[green harness]

It's not good value. If you could get a 3070 instead it'd generally be a better buy. It's not an inherently bad gpu

[lone pond]

i see

thanks

[sleek oasis]

Is there a difference between 1070 ti and 1070 ti founder edition?
I'm trying to sell my friend a used/spare Nvidia 1070 ti from my old rig and the prices are all over the place.

[vital oriole]

Well, not much

Apart from cooling cause obviously different designs

Slight clock speed difference

[sleek oasis]

Thanks, trying not to over charge him.

But also need sum dat cash

[royal kernel]

would it be worth it to buy a used overclocked card?

also a bit less than a 100 for a 1050ti?

[hot wave]

do u guys know when evga 3060s restock

[royal kernel]

pff if they do let me know

[hot wave]

im tryna buy one msrp cuz gyatt dayum the aftermarket

🥲

[green harness]

Somewhat often on random weekdays

[hot wave]

so just check weekdays to see if the site changes

[green harness]

They had em earlier today iirc https://www.evga.com/products/productlist.aspx?type=0

[hot wave]

?

nfjdbdkfjd

damn

[green harness]

Yeah, check for 3060s in stock.

[hot wave]

bet

tysm

[royal kernel]

https://www.newegg.com/p/0BD-01B2-000J2?item=9SIBB2THBF6340&nm_mc=knc-googleadwords&cm_mmc=knc-googleadwords-_-memory (usb flash drive)-_-na-_-9SIBB2THBF6340&source=region

what is this and should i care about it

[outer frigate]

seems a bit uhhh

just no

[royal kernel]

yeah lmao

doesnt sound exactly like a good idea

[green harness]

At best it's a lottery you're not going to win
At worst it's a scam and they don't ship the more expensive cards

[royal kernel]

anyone know why the 3050 isnt on this?https://imgur.com/a/WZBresN

or is it just too similar to something else to get its own spot

[green harness]

Probably just never updated with it

[fading glacier]

in any case is somewhat similar to a 1660s on perfomance

and yes, that list need an update

[ivory herald]

For the unknowing regarding 0rpm gpu fans. (Don't necessarily copy my exact "curve", haha)

[granite pier]

i need help undervolting

[livid idol]

Undervolting what?

[granite pier]

my 3070

temps to hot

[livid idol]

Desktop 3070?

[velvet grail]

Me being happy about GPU prices going down without realising that I don't have money for one

[livid idol]

Define too hot.
Usually the best way is to turn up your fans.

[granite pier]

like 67c

[livid idol]

That's not too hot

It's rated to run at or above 90 and still boost

[granite pier]

if u say so

[magic wing]

actually nvidia says so lol

[livid idol]

You can always set your fans to run faster to cool it better

[granite pier]

bruh and my cpu and like 48

why it so damn hot

[livid idol]

Because they're doing millions of calculations in fractions of a second

[granite pier]

is that safe?

temp

[livid idol]

100%

[magic wing]

48 is on the lower end tbh

[livid idol]

You could run it at 90C 24/7 for 5 years straight

[granite pier]

when should i worry about my 3070 temps

im running metro exodus rn

[magic wing]

When it hits above 85C

[granite pier]

cpu runs 52c

just checked

[magic wing]

LOL my cpu is idling at 62C

[granite pier]

how

plus i have prebuilt

with an ass aio

[magic wing]

Its currently around 40C where i am

ambient

[livid idol]

At least it's an AIO and not some low profile air cooler

[magic wing]

i mean its doing a great job at keeping that cpu cool tbf

[ivory herald]

if you say so

[granite pier]

i just reapplyed thermal paste to like a couple weeks ago

[granite pier]

bru

[magic wing]

I should probably repaste my cpu too

effort tho

cooler master mount sucks

hey chillin

are you uh chillin?

heh

[granite pier]

oops

[ivory herald]

I repasted mine. I don't care about prime95, so cinebench at 50c peak is decent. I "spread" it on. Xigmatek is a weird name but they had good CM212 competition.

[magic wing]

prime95 makes my cpu shoot to 105C

[granite pier]

damn

[magic wing]

so i just dont run prime95

[ivory herald]

Yeah this "3770" barely hits 60w on prime95 so obviously won't get very hot. Ok, 55c. "HDT" might've been a slight gimick, but still a great cooler. Wow, bought almost 9 yrs ago.

[covert plover]

any idea if this sound is normal? it's a brand new rtx 3060
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oKxbmAYSwDo

makes this obnoxious click noise
when it starts spinning
after it's spinning though it's fine and smooth, relatively quiet

[livid idol]

Sounds like they're off balance rubbing against the heatsink

[covert plover]

the gfx card heatsink?

[livid idol]

Yes, the one under the fans

[covert plover]

oof

is that something that would be RMA worthy?

[livid idol]

If it's annoying enough for you yes

[covert plover]

it's definitely an annoying sound

[livid idol]

Seems like they find their balance when they spin up so it shouldn't matter from a performance standpoint

[covert plover]

yeah, it's just a cosmetic thing

minor annoyance

[livid idol]

Well I know that the EVGA warranty is quite nice

[covert plover]

problem is, I don't want to go without a card, until then if I did RMA, but

[covert plover]

yeah I've heard great things

Idk, we'll see what they say. I reached out about it

for what it's worth, they might not even have another one to send

[livid idol]

iirc they do cross shipping for warranty so you'd be without a gpu for a very short time

[covert plover]

idk how bad of a shortage there is atm lol

oh nice

[livid idol]

Nah actually it's getting better, 3060 has been consistently in stock on their site

[covert plover]

oh sweet

this is the one with the backplate so I paid a little extra but honestly pretty solid

[livid idol]

The $429 one? It's in stock lol https://www.evga.com/products/product.aspx?pn=12G-P5-3657-KR

[covert plover]

yeah

that's dope

i dont see it in stock on their stie

it's just where to buy, microcenter, newegg, amazon

[livid idol]

Oops yeah you're right, it was in stock earlier today though

[covert plover]

i believe you 😛

yeah I mean, $450 total, coulda got away with spending less probs, but honestly, worth

[livid idol]

Nah that's a steal in the current market still

[covert plover]

yeah, definitely

it's around $500+ on ebay

[livid idol]

It was $700 just a month ago

[covert plover]

wtf

lol

these scalpers

[livid idol]

Tariffs got cut so getting closer to msrp

[covert plover]

ooo

yeah, hype for only 5% sales tax over here lol

[livid idol]

lol sponsored, they paid for that too

[covert plover]

XDDDD

dang someone got a decent price

[livid idol]

Assuming it wasn't a scam listing

[covert plover]

yea true lol

wtf

someone rlly paid $850?

[livid idol]

Non LHR

Some miner did

[covert plover]

ohh

how did they get non LHR

[livid idol]

There's a few ways, usually old stock

[covert plover]

dang

that's sorta crazy

[livid idol]

Or scalpers buying stacks and can't get rid of them for the 200% upcharge they want

[covert plover]

XDDDD

ohh

and then claiming it's non lhr when it's not

ouch

much scam

[livid idol]

You can claim buyer protection for that at least

Falsely advertised

[covert plover]

yeah true

most things right?

how does a scammer get around that

[livid idol]

There's a couple ways to scam on ebay still but I don't feel like explaining them, it's complicated lol

[livid idol]

I checked, this one was probably a scam. The seller hasn't sold anything on ebay before at all, only buying from the same few people multiple times.

Plus the absolute lack of description is suspicious too

[covert plover]

yeahh true

[livid idol]

Wait I just noticed too... THE PHOTO IS A SCREENSHOT OF A PHOTO from someone else's listing

Didn't even bother cropping lmao

[covert plover]

lmfao

good eye

so, how do they even successfully get away with that? buyer protection is so hard to avoid

buyer is most definitely going to get a refund

[livid idol]

There's 3 main ways I know of, and 2 can apply here.
Send a different item (sunglasses are popular for this for some reason), cash out, and run.
Send something to a different address from the buyer, so tracking says delivered but buyer doesn't receive item. Seller claims in dispute that it shows arrived and it may have been stolen.

Either way yes the buyer will get their money back with a little hassle (probably) but the seller will probably disappear

[covert plover]

yeah that sounds accurate

sounds hard for the scammer to win though

postal collects the scammer's real info

unless he commits fraud

[livid idol]

It's pretty easy to mail things anonymously. You can use a prepaid debit card to buy the shipping label online, then drop it in a random collection can.

The only goal of the scammer is to be able to cash out the sale before it gets to the end of the dispute process

[covert plover]

Oh dang

yeah true

ebay holds funds for quite a while though

i know this from experience as a seller

[livid idol]

In some cases yes

But not for sellers with a certain reputation threshold

[covert plover]

oh dang

[livid idol]

Which is where hacked accounts come into play

[covert plover]

yeah thats a yikes

[livid idol]

I'm a top rated plus seller, fast 'n free, I can cash out in 3-5 days

[covert plover]

wow

[livid idol]

Sometimes that's before the item even arrives

[covert plover]

i got 11 ratings lul

13 actually mb

lol

[livid idol]

It's also pretty easy to cheese the ebay seller rep system with a ton of fake listings and accounts

[covert plover]

yea its crazy i get some dumb ratings here and there

[livid idol]

Gotta look for those long term sellers, if someone has 300 sales in the last month and nothing past that, avoid

[covert plover]

like "great communication" and didnt even talk

they'll leave me lol

[covert plover]

yeah thats pretty sus

although, I found this seller with 101,799 positives lmao

in the past month

https://www.ebay.com/fdbk/feedback_profile/second.sale

i got some college textbooks from them

[livid idol]

Yeah an account like that is very likely to be honest, selling since 2002

[covert plover]

definitely a lot of rep

[livid idol]

Almost 1.8 million

[covert plover]

yeah thats wild

[sleek oasis]

Is removing a sli bridge quick and easy or so I need to do special shit?
Selling my extra graphics card to a friend and my old rig is used by my gf for games. don't want to brick it and I had it built for me originally (lazy)

[heady turtle]

afaik its just pulls out

[sleek oasis]

Cool

[keen nacelle]

You need to put butter on it so it slides out easier

And then bread it and bake it at 325°

[heady turtle]

Can you do it at 35° facing the other way

[keen nacelle]

Genius

[magic cobalt]

Does anyone know what the difference is between AORUS 3080 10gb vs the 12gb one

[keen nacelle]

Like 10% in gaming, if that

[heady turtle]

Like 5%

[dense cliff]

If I get a different Nvidia GPU do I have to Uninstall the drivers for my old card before putting the new one in?

Or will it just detect automatically?

[green harness]

2gb of vram and a bunch of money

[green harness]

You should run ddu in safe mode and delete the old drivers. A guide is in the pins

[dense cliff]

K thanks

[lone pond]

What would be a good gpu upgrade from a 1660ti? Should I wait for a possible 40 series snag or grab a 30 series when the price drops enough?

[keen nacelle]

Depends on your psu and what you do

I'd aim for 3060 ti or higher imo

Also depends on cpu

[lone pond]

I have a i7-10700f with a 850W 80+ gold psu

[normal hawk]

3060 ti would be good.

[lone pond]

What about a 3070?

[normal hawk]

Could go 3070 or 3080 depending on budget

[lone pond]

Under $700 preferably

Will gladly wait if it means to get a better price

So far 3070s are getting closer to $700

[cerulean rover]

under 700$ you can do 3060ti easily, 3070 should be decently simple

3080 is only FE for 700$

[normal hawk]

6800xt if you catch an AMD drop on AMD direct if you're in US

[lone pond]

I want a gpu be near future proof

[green harness]

That's not possible.....

[normal hawk]

6800xt if you aren't doing Raytracing, 3070 if you are.

[green harness]

Technology continues to advance so there isn't really such a thing as "future proof"

[cerulean rover]

We can hope, but uh, future proofing not really gonna happen

[normal hawk]

The 3090 already got replaced 😬 and it's replacement is cheaper than what many people paid for their 3090's. 😅

[green harness]

Well I think we all still want tech to advance though

[lone pond]

Rip, but as far as a gpu can last for its performance for years to come?

Like would a 3070 be good in the next 3 years?

2*

[normal hawk]

5 years or more

Depending on resolution

[lone pond]

1440p

4k is just too pricy for both performance and budget

[normal hawk]

Should be fine. The 2070 is still usable.

[green harness]

It's really going to depend on what an acceptable level of performance is for you, but I would wager 3 years at 1440p without much issue, can go longer if you're willing to drop settings/res.
This is all guesswork ofc

[lone pond]

So what about the 3080 then?

[normal hawk]

Games aren't moving that fast except in terms of VRAM

[lone pond]

Or should I end up waiting for the 40 series?

[green harness]

Should give better performance over that period

[normal hawk]

Waiting for the 4000 or 7000 cards is viable.

But who knows what the prices will be then

[green harness]

Yeah, it's hard to know what 40-series pricing will be or if availability will be as bad as for 30-series

[normal hawk]

3090 ti is cheaper than my 3090 😔 and the AIB's are closer to retail so it'll probably be cheaper

[green harness]

40 series will almost certainly be pricier than 30-series MSRP though at each tier

And I'm talking Nvidia MSRP here. The AIBs all had/have their own MSRPs for each SKU, and it's harder to know where those will land imo

[lone pond]

I see

Ill prolly snag a 3070 ti or 3080 when the time is right

Thank you

[green harness]

EVGA has 70 Tis in stock rn https://www.evga.com/products/productlist.aspx?type=0

1. Among the lowest AIB prices
2. Good quality cards
3. Among the best customer service and warranty support

[dense cliff]

yeah my evga one just came today

[summer condor]

POGGERS

[dense cliff]

lol my pc isn't handling it very well

[keen nacelle]

how so

[dense cliff]

my rgb keeps randomly blinking and i keep black screening occasionally

[keen nacelle]

ddu

[dense cliff]

oooo i think i found the issue, I forgot to remove the GPU Tweak software and it still thinks i have the 2070 D:

yep now its working

[potent pendant]

i need a new gpu lol

[livid idol]

Check the EVGA website every day. They're restocking pretty frequently, and if you have any EVGA products already you can get special priority drops and B-stock.

[dire laurel]

Hi is Gigabyte Z690 UD, Intel Z690 mbo compatible with a Gigabyte GeForce RTX 3090 GAMING OC 24G card?

[heady turtle]

yes but i wouldnt buy that board

[dire laurel]

suggestion?

[heady turtle]

What country and CPU?

[dire laurel]

i7 US

going up to i9 with whatever mbo

[heady turtle]

I'd probs go with
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/pgKKHx/gigabyte-z690-aorus-elite-ax-ddr4-atx-lga1700-motherboard-z690-aorus-elite-ax-ddr4

[dire laurel]

https://www.amazon.com/GIGABYTE-Z690-AORUS-Thunderbolt-Motherboard/dp/B09J64TBJG/ref=sr_1_1?crid=3VVHEU31SYVPW&keywords=z690+aorus+master+ddr5&qid=1649280279&sprefix=z690+aorus+master+ddr5%2Caps%2C93&sr=8-1

would that work too?

[keen nacelle]

id get the msi z690-a pro

ddr4

ddr5 is a meme as of right now

[dire laurel]

even for future proofing?

[keen nacelle]

yes

[dire laurel]

Thanks guys

[quartz gull]

My 3070 already feeling weakkk

My 3070 has ruined me

I was content with a 2060, now a 3070 isn't enough

Why did I buy that 4k monitor... I should've seen this coming... Now nothing will satisfy me anymore

[slate galleon]

Do I plug this in, or grab another cable?

[keen nacelle]

3090 ti time

[cerulean rover]

Preferably another cable

[vital oriole]

Wait, is that.. 8 pin that also splits into 6+2? No, don't do that

You're gonna melt it lol

[slate galleon]

Is a 6+2 pin

I plugged in 2

Do I need to do anything else? I tried to get a game up and running but no fans seem to spin

[cerulean rover]

fans don't spin until they need to

[slate galleon]

Is everything ready to go out of the box?

[cerulean rover]

Should be fine

[slate galleon]

The game is going some really weird things

Are you sure there are no bios things I have to do

[cerulean rover]

might need gpu drivers

[slate galleon]

That would make sense

[vital oriole]

Ah if that's so

That's fine then

[slate galleon]

Already have the drivers

Lemme take a vid of the issue, maybe it’s just the game freaking out

[vital oriole]

It's likely the game

[wicked hound]

Only if the connector is trash or in poor condition. Pretty rare to overdraw on those, esp on a basic 3070Ti card.

[vital oriole]

Hm, alright

[wicked hound]

If the supplied connector is also so bad (ignoring maintenance issues) that it fails like that, then the PSU would more then likely be pretty questionable

[potent pendant]

I'm too broke to continue work on my PC..my latest is a 3050 and I lost my job so..yeah that sucks

[hot folio]

All of my cables split into 6+2…

[slate galleon]

its all working now, thanks for the help!

[potent pendant]

Noice

[potent pendant]

Guys want to see my set-up

Probs not the best but I'm proud of it

[potent pendant]

oh no! i can't send files big oof

[green harness]

Did you try #build-pics?

[potent pendant]

Yes

[green harness]

F

[potent pendant]

Damn

[keen nacelle]

You have to chat more to level up

[potent pendant]

Oh alright

Spamming count lol

[ivory herald]

And/or get discord nitro (or maybe boost the server)

[potent pendant]

Um no 😂

[ivory herald]

[potent pendant]

I don't have a need for it

[heady turtle]

Would not go z690 a pro for 12900k @dire laurel @keen nacelle

Vrms would be a bit too weak for that imo

[magic wing]

itll be fine

@heady turtle GN tested 12900k on z690 a pro btw

its very more than ok

https://youtu.be/VEkDVlv1FFg?t=254

[heady turtle]

yeah ik id just prefer to spend the extra 20$ for the gigab

especially if they mean 13thngen i9

Who knows how power hungry that could be lol

[magic wing]

fair but the a pro should still be OK

great great vrms for the price

[queen abyss]

so my gpu decided to have a red flashing light, whats going on

[heady turtle]

what model gpu and can you send a pic?

[queen abyss]

asus rog rtx 3060 and sure

i already plugged and unplugged in the pcie cables (with the power cable unplugged ofc) and the red light is still going off

could be that i have a weak psu

[heady turtle]

it could be the extension cables being bad

[queen abyss]

maybe

but when i had the cables and i first plugged it in it never really caused this much of a problem

and that i had this on sleep mode last night so

[heady turtle]

worth a try

[queen abyss]

true

ill prolly buy a new psu with a new extension cable just incase but we'll see

thank you for the help though

[heady turtle]

No need to do that just check the PSU with the normal cable first

[queen abyss]

mk

normal cable as in the cable im using right

[heady turtle]

As in the regular power supply cable not the extension

[queen abyss]

ok

ill check it out, i do want to see how much watts is my PSU so i'll prolly do that when i get home from school

ill tell you what wattage is the psu and see if we can do sumn along with the cable, but for now, im getting to my bus so we'll talk l8r

[keen nacelle]

That's what I said

[magic wing]

is a more than fine board from gn testing

[keen nacelle]

Oh

I missed the not

[heady turtle]

1660's are too sought after tbh

a 980 ti or 1070 would do just as good

[fading glacier]

price drop on the 30 series with the release of the 40 series

i dont know man...

[west dust]

Does the 3090ti really take 4 gpu slots

[ivory herald]

Nah, takes 3.7ish slots. 🤣

[ivory herald]

Fan mount setup on it is easily 2x as thick as they could be. It's about time they make some models that come w/ 120mm fans strapped on like the Noctua Asus, or give us an ez way to swap em on.

[fading glacier]

the noctua asus was 4 slots as well right?

damn beautiful that owl card

[hard wren]

i thought it was only 3 but yeah I like that card

3070 i think

@fading glacier nope your right its 4 its chunky

[normal hawk]

shoulda been a 3080

[west dust]

Wow

[fading glacier]

its like a 3070 watercooled without the water involved

[west dust]

Yeah ok i need to mount cards sideways now

[heady turtle]

Some take 4 pcie slots ye

[fading glacier]

the rog strix takes 2

😛

however you need to account for the radiator as well 😄

personally i prefer a water cooled solution on such high end gpu instead of those bulky air coolers

[ivory herald]

Double 140mm fans when 🤣

[livid idol]

Nah, talk to me when the thicc 180mm fans that come with the fractal torrent are on there

Easy 6 slot gpu

[ivory herald]

Vert mount required, savage

[fading glacier]

or an external case just for the gpu, thunderbolt and all

[normal hawk]

the Aorus Extreme 3090 I have is 4 slots.

All of the Aorus Master/Extreme (Excluding water/aio models) are 4 slots from 3080 upwards. The 3070 and down are then 3 slot GPU's so they are all pretty big chonkers

Was expecting the 3090 ti from aorus to be 5 slot but they only have a 360mm radiator one.

which is huge in its on way ya

[west dust]

Yeah my current one is a 3070 ti… which somehow performs worse than a plain 3070????

So im going straight to 3090 ti

[ivory herald]

I know the normal setup helps cool vram, but would be hilarious to see a tower heatsink on a gpu

[normal hawk]

if you're just gaming, please don't. just get a 3080 ti. EVGA and newegg have them in stock.

[west dust]

Not just gaming
Workstation and protein folding box/working with some lab people 😅

But yes im going to swap my 3070 ti for a 3080 ti in the box that had the 3070 ti

[heady turtle]

nah basically the same

[ivory herald]

Gddr6x vram on 70ti running hot didn't help either

[normal hawk]

while the 3060 ti and 3080 ti are closer to the one above them. the 3070 ti is closer to the one below it.

Its kinda weird

the 70 series refreshes was one of the better ones to get. 970 ti, 1070 ti, 2070 super. like, all great cards. but then you get the 3070 ti. 😂

[west dust]

My 3dmark score is almost half with the ti vs the regular 3070 😦

[normal hawk]

There has to be something else causing that

[west dust]

Effective mem bandwidth is higher on the ti, it runs cooler than my 3070 … i couldnt figure it out

[heady turtle]

then you messed up something or youre looking at wrong score

[west dust]

I updated the firmware with evga precision x1

Didnt help

Will keep debugging though and update here when/if i solve it

[ivory herald]

Eh, try ddu then fresh nvidia drivers & later make sure you're at 3d clocks when 3dmark is running. I haven't touched firmware since my gtx 660

[heady turtle]

And completely reset any oc utilities

[ivory herald]

Yep. Heck, could even start out w/ just hwinfo or gpuz reading temps during a couple 3dmark runs, then install precision or AB.

[vocal lion]

does the 3090 ti have nvlink?

[normal hawk]

yeah

[vocal lion]

pog

[normal hawk]

dunno why you'd need it though tbh

[vocal lion]

just curious

[normal hawk]

don't do it

[vocal lion]

nah im not getting 2 3090 tis lol

[rustic pulsar]

but can it run crysis

[normal hawk]

a single 3090 can run the original crysis 3 at 4k high settings installed on its vram.

[ivory herald]

Bout time

[rustic pulsar]

[normal hawk]

https://www.pcmag.com/news/geforce-rtx-3090-vram-is-capable-of-running-crysis-3

[ivory herald]

Tbh not terribly impressive. Still had 9GB of Vram left over. Of course 4k by itself is pretty demanding when it's basically 4x the pixels of 1080p. Hey woof 11700F on route. (skylake 4.0 & 5.0 gang)

[rustic pulsar]

all jokes aside, why make it so demanding, 2013 what was the best gpu gtx 880 or something

[normal hawk]

you're finally upgrading. nice

[rustic pulsar]

As in ur getting one?

Nice

Nice, I’m prolly gonna stick with my i7-10700f for awhile, maybe I’ll get 15 series idk

Prolly wait until pci 6 or something

[ivory herald]

Got a z590 mobo & wanted all 3 m.2 slots tbh, otherwise I'd gotten same exact cpu . Haha, yea, even the 3090 is barely held back by pcie 3 x16 so that's good. Mainly the ipc upgrades is what's good since most games just use 4-6core/8-12threads. Oh yeah, Crysis 1-3 is for pushing boundaries & making people upgrade gpus more. 780 ti might've not been out yet, but yeah.👍 I like Anandtech reviews. Their older ones were pretty good.

[rustic pulsar]

i plan for my next upgrade to be a headset upgrade with a good mic, currently rocking a Logitech G432 which is okay mic quality is meh

[ivory herald]

Mhm, headsets often are said to have a mediocre mic. My razer kraken seems alright so far. Was a gift & not in a hurry to replace but I wouldn't mind good closed back headphones

[normal hawk]

Razer kraken is great. Just wish their warranty was better

[west dust]

ok 3090 ti installed
my cpu is the bottleneck

[keen nacelle]

the cpu being

[west dust]

epyc 7543

x2 (dual socket)

it's ok because i'm going to be running lots of VMs

[keen nacelle]

i cant tell if this is a joke or not

[west dust]

so yeah the cpu is bottleneck sadly

[normal hawk]

you workstation puts mine to shame 😫

[west dust]

it is ok my cpu bottlenecks my gpu

[normal hawk]

64 cores though

[west dust]

😅

[normal hawk]

Lol

[livid idol]

Half a gig of L3 cache lmao

[normal hawk]

a full gig. they have 2 of those

[west dust]

Half gig, windows combines it

😅

[normal hawk]

ohh lame

[ivory herald]

More ram than my current ssd. 🤣

[royal kernel]

My dad got me a 1050ti for 50 bucks and i am Very Excited

The metal cover thing at the end is a bit bent so it makes sense

but i can fix that later maybe

Going from integrated graphics this is gonna be a game gchanger

Other than that they said it was new

so yeah uh i might need help setting it up

[royal kernel]

So yeah it’s probably a fake card

it’s not outputting

[normal hawk]

does that have a VGA output on it?

[royal kernel]

yeah

[normal hawk]

oh no

ya its fake

[royal kernel]

Fun

[normal hawk]

I saw the shroud and I was like, no way

[royal kernel]

and then also the fact that it doesnt have a psu input lol

[keen nacelle]

theres 1050 tis that are pcie powered

[normal hawk]

1050 ti does have LP models without the pins

[royal kernel]

i would have been happy if it would have at least been better than the integrated graphics i have currently

which is not a hard bar to cross

at a whopping 1.3 gigs of vram

[west dust]

@royal kernel what gpu do you need

or rather
idk
i feel bad you got a fake gpu

[sullen panther]

F in chat

[vernal fern]

i7 8700k or Amd ryzen 5 3400g

[hot folio]

Oh boy, that’s a classic wish.com fake

[royal kernel]

lmao

i mean it was off fb marketplace

but yeah that’s not the best place either

[hot folio]

What was the listing?

First major thing is that there is no branding whatsoever on the card

[royal kernel]

idk someone else bought it but they said it was for their daughter and she wasn’t able to use it very much before she had it taken away

the listing was for 100

[heady turtle]

uuhhhh neither? theyer both pretty terrible to be buying in 2022... what is your budget

[hot folio]

Also the card is probably a GTS 450 or 420 so your integrated graphics will be the performing just as much as that GPU or better than the GPU

[royal kernel]

but i might want to wait to get a gpu until i get a better pc because that thing was like barely in the pcie slot

like it was covering other slots and the cmos battery

and also i have like a 250w power supply so that doesn’t help

[hot folio]

Usually a GPU covers more than one PCie slot considering they are often 2+ slots cards

But yeah I’d just stick to the iGPU for now if you have the 250w PSU until you have more money to spend

[royal kernel]

ah ok

guessing igpu is integrated

[hot folio]

Yep

[royal kernel]

ok thanks

[vital oriole]

if the 1050ti has no vga port

it's not a scam

cause pascal doesn't have analog output support

unless it's an oem card

but that thing-

that looks like scam lol

[vernal fern]

no i have a 5 3400g right now but i can switch to the i7 8700k

But i can get a Ryzen 9 5950x for 275 dollars

[heady turtle]

is the 8700k and motherboard for free? if so yeah 8700k but 3400g depending on the motherboard you have with it has a better upgrade path

[heady turtle]

thats verrrry low are you sure?

also whats your motherboard?

might bot be able to handle it

[vernal fern]

Asus prime b450 plus

[hard wren]

I like my 8700k but its getting a little dated

and its throttling my 3090 😭

[vernal fern]

or i can get a Amd ryzen 9 3900x for 200 dollars

[sullen panther]

Woah how you getting this deal

[vernal fern]

FB

[sullen panther]

If it is real I would buy it asap

[vernal fern]

Ya but im a lil low on cash

[hard wren]

I mean if the 5950x is 275....

[sullen panther]

It's probably broken or something cause that deal is too good

[vernal fern]

They said i can come and test it first

[hard wren]

i mean that would be the best cpu and thats a great price

[sullen panther]

Yeah

[hard wren]

and it would work with a b450 plus

[sullen panther]

I'm trying to find it on market place but I just see 450+

[vernal fern]

I live in Sweden

[sullen panther]

Oh

[hard wren]

a 5950x is a beast if it works and that price of 275 is a good deal in sweden monies

[sullen panther]

Yeah I'm not gonna find that then. So it's 275 euros?

Sweden doesn't use euro?

[heady turtle]

yeahhh your poor motherboard would struggle but you get like a 5700x

[hard wren]

I have no idea

[vernal fern]

No Swedish kronor

[sullen panther]

Oh yeah that make sense, I don'tEU think Sweden is in

[vernal fern]

i can get a 9 3900x for like 200 dollars

[hard wren]

how does swedish kronor monies convert to dollars/euros

[vital oriole]

sweden is in eu

[heady turtle]

assuming youre not doing multi core work - ryzen 5000 would be better

[vital oriole]

eu countries could use their own currencies

[sullen panther]

Oh

[vernal fern]

i think 1 dollars is lioke 8 kr

[heady turtle]

its in the trade union or something but not actually in the EU

think they have special agreement

[vital oriole]

ah

[sullen panther]

I see

[hard wren]

$1 = 9.49 Swedish Krona. Is that a Kronor?

[heady turtle]

roughly 100 swedish krone is 100€

10*

[vernal fern]

NO 1000 KR IS like 100 dollars

AMD Ryzen Threadripper 2920X 600 dollars LUL

[heady turtle]

ew thats horrible price

[vital oriole]

it takes different slot anyway

[vernal fern]

Amd ryzen 7 3800Xt 250 dollars

[vital oriole]

won't fit am4

[vernal fern]

Ta i know

[vital oriole]

yuck, don't do 3800xt

[heady turtle]

@vernal fern are you gaming or doing multi core ?

also yeah i guess if youre only doing gaming get the cheap 5900x

for 250€

[vernal fern]

I play but wanna do some work but my pc is not the best

[heady turtle]

what kind of work?

[hard wren]

it will be a lot better with a 5950x in it 😉

[sullen panther]

^^

[vernal fern]

Photoshop and like 3d rendering and more

Btw i have a Rtx 3060 right now

[hard wren]

thats great

a 5950x and a 3060 will tear up some photoshop and 3d rendering

[vernal fern]

And im trying to stream but i get to low Fps

[hard wren]

what was your current cpu again?

[vernal fern]

5 3400g

[vital oriole]

you can try using nvenc

i bet it's running on x264, which is a cpu encoder

[vernal fern]

?

[vital oriole]

3400g couldn't handle that running a game

x264 is heavy on cpu

it's just inefficient honestly

[hard wren]

and are you using shadow play or obs?

[vital oriole]

^

[sullen panther]

I think I have mine set on nvenc but it's been years since I looked at my obs settings

[vital oriole]

shadowplay uses nvenc by default, obs doesn't

[vernal fern]

I stream on Streamerlabs obs

[hard wren]

if you get the 5950x you can keep doing that with much better results or switch to nvidias shadow play with the 3400g

[vital oriole]

check your settings for obs then

change it to nvenc

it'll use the gpu's encoder to stream

[vernal fern]

the 5950x has i buyer today 😦 and i cant go becuase my house is snowed in

[hard wren]

shovel?

[vital oriole]

nvidia gpus has dedicated encoder and decoder

so it doesn't have much perf impact at all

[hard wren]

yeah the 3060 can stream much better than the 3400g

[vital oriole]

amd does too but nvidia one is better

[vernal fern]

had it on alredy

[vital oriole]

hm, odd

[vernal fern]

but its in Gpu 0

[hard wren]

shadowplay is still better optimized for it but you lose out on a lot of bells and whistles from obs so i completely understand not wanting to switch

[heady turtle]

i mean i get the 250 5900x or 5950x whichever it was - will need a new cooler and you can just strap a fan right on top of the vrms

[vernal fern]

Im getting a 240mm Aio soon its on the way

[hard wren]

noooo

[heady turtle]

ehh no

[hard wren]

dont do it

[heady turtle]

280mm minimum

[hard wren]

360mm or air imo

[heady turtle]

and it has to be a good 280mm

[heady turtle]

280 vs 360 is close ish tbh

[hard wren]

true and thickness matters too

[vernal fern]

then air is my only option becuas my chassi can only take a 240mm

[heady turtle]

and a 280mm especially arctic or ek or lian li galahad would kick d15s ass

[heady turtle]

uhhh what case?

thats a rip

[vernal fern]

Nzxt h510

[heady turtle]

ouch

[hard wren]

D15 it is

[heady turtle]

gonna need a new case

[vital oriole]

the classic h510

[heady turtle]

or take out the dremel

[vital oriole]

it's everywhere

[heady turtle]

or deepcool ak620 whichever is cheaper

[vital oriole]

it haunts everyone

[hard wren]

oh yeah I like that one too also looks better

[vital oriole]

ak620 is just amazing

[dreamy dragon]

Benkorv#0582 has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

[heady turtle]

putting an aio in the h510 actually just makes it worse

[vital oriole]

don't get u12s tho

[heady turtle]

which is lel

[vital oriole]

that thing is meh

[vernal fern]

or i take out the botten thiong and mount it like half of the screws

[heady turtle]

nah

thats not the problem

theres no air there

soo

[hard wren]

a dremel can fix it

[vernal fern]

i have a plan for that

[heady turtle]

you would need to cut off the front of your case

[vernal fern]

well thats ,y plan

[heady turtle]

well then you can get a 280mm or 360mm it just wont look good at all lol

[vernal fern]

Ok

[hard wren]

fixed 😀

[vernal fern]

well im 15 whit no money thats my biggest problem right now

[heady turtle]

would aim for an arctic liquid freezer ii 280mm/360mm or ek rgb /lian li Galahad 280mm/360mm if theyre cheaper for some reason

[vernal fern]

done that alredy side panel is off

or mabye get one of FB?

[hard wren]

now you just need the hole cut in the front

[vernal fern]

Thats my plan

[vital oriole]

there's mesh mod for h510 elite on etsy

but normal h510 doesn't fit the panel

[hard wren]

and then if you cut up the top you can mount a 280/360mm rad up there

[heady turtle]

idk if they work - afaik the front was structural

[vital oriole]

they actually work

[heady turtle]

i just meant hanging out the front :D

[vital oriole]

case isn't too compromised it seems

[hard wren]

lol or that

[heady turtle]

nice to have you back nilboggen 😛

[hard wren]

yeah it still looks sturdy the motherboard will help hold it together lol

[vernal fern]

ya but i need money to buy the parts and i dont know how

[hard wren]

yeah been super busy just havent had time lately

[vital oriole]

free solution to better airflow is to uh

run caseless

[heady turtle]

i recommend using money to buy the parts :D

[vernal fern]

ya i can sell things but i have no things to sell

[heady turtle]

fair enough - maybe look for something like a 5600x / 5700x then

would mean you can cheap out on the cooler

a bit more anyway

[hard wren]

at least you already have a 3060

[vernal fern]

ya

[vital oriole]

a 5600 if possible is a great choice too

if it's cheaper than 5600x

[vernal fern]

i mean i can like sell the 3400g and buy the otyher parts

[heady turtle]

yeah no point keeping the 3400g after you upgraded

[vernal fern]

Should i sell my xbox?

[livid idol]

Which xbox?

[vernal fern]

xbox series s

[livid idol]

I would personally now that you have a gaming pc, unless you have game pass and certain games you want aren't on pc for some reason

[vernal fern]

no i have all games on Pc

[heady turtle]

if you dont use it might as well sell then yeah

[vernal fern]

i watch netflix on it but i have a apple tv to

ya the ones where i live sells for 3000 Sek

[heady turtle]

yeah might as well

[vernal fern]

and whit that i can buy a new Cpu

and then a AIO

Is the AMD Ryzen 5 5600X good?

[keen nacelle]

Yes

And it doesn't require an aio

[vernal fern]

What about the 7 3700x

[keen nacelle]

Not as good for gaming, same multi core

[vernal fern]

Oh okey

what Ryzen do you recomed for gaming?

[keen nacelle]

5600x

5600

5700x

[vernal fern]

okey thanks

or i can buy the Thermaltake Core p5 for good airflow

[livid idol]

5600 is nearly as good as the 5600X for cheaper

[vernal fern]

so like the 9 3990 is not good for gaming?

[livid idol]

It is, it's just you'll get better fps from a 5600 for far cheaper

[keen nacelle]

Yeah, but I'm assuming some countries in Europe will have messed up prices or stock will come later

[heady turtle]

The what?

[livid idol]

The 5600 non-X?

https://youtu.be/ifI9nnmW5sg

[keen nacelle]

i5-5600 ofc

[heady turtle]

sorry meant to reply to the guy above you

[livid idol]

Oh so you meant the Ryzen 9 3990X? It's a threadripper

[heady turtle]

yeah wasnt sure if they meant tr or 3900x or 3950x lol

[normal hawk]

At least it's not a 1st gen tr

[livid idol]

No

Not always

And the mounting holes are often in different places too

If they're both reference design boards it would work most likely

But if it's custom designed no

[keen flower]

How can I get TOR to upload on Windows 11. I have tried many times and Windows 11 keeps blocking it even though I tell it to unblock. It works great on Windows 10 Pro. Any suggestions would be appreciated.

[hard wren]

run tor as admin disable windows firewall for tor

[keen flower]

Ok thanks I will give that a try...

[hard wren]

I have a few more things you can try if that doesnt work just ping me

[hot wave]

how much do u guys think a 1080 would sell for right now (cad)

[wicked hound]

$400 - $500 CAD if on HWS. Might be able to get tiny bit more on Kijiji/Marketplace

$500 CAD is probably pretty hard to do on HWS. 1080Tis go for $450 - $550 CAD now on HWS, but you might be lucky with low supply of those deals

[heady turtle]

@keen nacelle did you try overdriven to oc your 6800xt btw

[vernal fern]

Is the Ryzen 7 3800xt good?

[wicked hound]

It's okay, how much are you getting it for?

Seems like 3800x (not XT) is going for $180 USD used, which is hilariously sad as 12400F is $180 new and is effectively the same multi core perf and way better single core

[vernal fern]

Okey

[hot wave]

K ty:D

[ivory herald]

Yeah seems tons of 1080s for sale lately, & their value dived quite a bit also. If I waited til now to buy 1, would've been an extra 9 months w/ the 970. Gonna "lose" $200ish when I sell, but oh well.

[velvet grail]

I was thinking of making a homemade GPU backplate for my 1070 but I need a RGB led strip that can be cut and at which I can solder some 3 or 4 pin RGB connector (jrainbow/jrgb for MSI MB)

I'd like the RGB strip to be cheap but I can't find one

If it's possible, also an adapter for Corsair lighting node core to 3/4 pin RGB woul be nice so I don't have to install more programs that may interfere with my fans/RAM RGB

(I can also build it myself if I find the Corsair RGB fan header)

[velvet grail]

Not sure if lightnin node core supports RGB strips
I know the lightning node pro does (the one with only two outputs)

[livid idol]

Adapters don't work with Corsair stuff. They do completely different signals.

[velvet grail]

https://youtu.be/ZIZeHtF8AIU

https://youtu.be/a32X9lGNr2A

Check this

Un both videos they use adapters and they work ~fine~

[vital oriole]

It could be jank

I wouldn't put too nuch trust on it

But if you're willing to risk, it's up to you really

[velvet grail]

Mmmh

Can jrgb and jrainbow be controlled with software that don't interfere with icue

What's the pinout of the 3 pin Corsair RGB connector?

[velvet grail]

Found it (I was wrong, it is 4 pin)

(the connector below is not the right one)

[rustic cove]

Guys what should my GPU usage should be at?

I have a GIGABYTE GeForce 1660

[green harness]

99-100% if you're GPU bound

[rustic cove]

dont know what that means

I have a GIGABYTE GeForce GTX 1660

[magic wing]

depends on what ur doing

[twilit roost]

Hey, i got a 3070ti and once i plugged it in, it doesnt want to give output

I took it away and put it back, but still doesnt work

[livid idol]

Power plug in the GPU?
Monitor cable on the GPU?
Do you have a riser cable?
Try another pcie slot

What motherboard and CPU do you have?

[twilit roost]

Z390-p with an i7-9700k

Power is good

Gpu is well put

Whats a riser cable

[livid idol]

Riser cables are often used to make the GPU vertical

Try another PCIe slot then

[twilit roost]

ill see

Now a friend is helping

[mossy fox]

Hi can i ask?

[velvet grail]

Of course

[wicked hound]

Dont use icue and use OpenRGB? Should have more control over interference issues, slightly confused about your question tho so idk if Im answering correctly

[livid idol]

!ask

[dreamy dragon]

https://dontasktoask.com/

[velvet grail]

Open RGB can't set my RGB brightness to max

Like signal rgb

And I prefer icue because of the many RGB profiles

[wicked hound]

OpenRGB has profiles tho, as for effects you should be able to get plugins for that

Idk about brightness issues, dont have corsair stuff so cant say much

[twilit roost]

tried on the second pcie slot

didnt work

and no riser cable

went with linux to see if it recognize over there, nothing

[livid idol]

You might have a bad cord. If it's an older one it might not work for the newer specs.

[twilit roost]

it worked with a 3070 tho

that a friend gave to me

[livid idol]

Ah that's useful info

You might have just gotten a dud GPU

[twilit roost]

dud?

[livid idol]

Dud as in DOA, dead

If you can try the gpu in another pc that'll tell you for sure

[twilit roost]

ill see

but i dont have a spare pc

although a friend has

[velvet grail]

Only Corsair RGB, ram stays at like 50% brightness and fans have strange colours

[wicked hound]

How long ago was this, Do newer versions work?

[normal hawk]

https://wccftech.com/amd-radeon-rx-7700-xt-navi-33-rdna-3-gpu-faster-than-6900-xt-higher-efficency-nvidia-lovelace-graphics-detailed/

How come AMD's GPU'S haven't been to impacted by slower buses?

128 bit bus for 8gb gddr6 on the 7700xt?

[livid idol]

Infinity fabric

[normal hawk]

Ohh

Pretty cool actually

That's probably how they get the prices down huh?

[livid idol]

A small part of it but yeah

[normal hawk]

I was wondering about that for a while cause like, the 3060 has a 192 bit bus and we laugh at it. But the 6700xt also has a 192 bit bus but it's 12gb isn't nerfed like it. Ya know?

[livid idol]

Yeah, the bus width isn't the whole story with AMD. That's why I laughed at early predictions of VRAM sizes for 7000 series based on the bus.

[normal hawk]

They must have improved it even more If they can drop down to 128 for 8gb ddr6 👀

Oh wait no it's the same rate

64bit per 4gbs

[ivory herald]

It's more about bandwidth anyways. 128bit could give plenty of bandwidth w/ decent speeds. Lower end cards also obviously don't exactly need 400+ GB/s like higher end stuff.

[knotty turtle]

Is a 1660 super good for an entry level build?

[lone pond]

fine for 1080p

[normal hawk]

The 7700xt is leaked to beat the 6900xt in performance so is it really "lower end" although tbf it's MCM

[ivory herald]

Actually I had in my head that it was more like a 7600 or 7500, so cancel that. Well, 128bit sounds/feels lower end to me, even though nowadays we don't need 512+ bit to hit good bandwidth.s

[vital oriole]

what price is it going for tho?

[ivory herald]

To answer them simply though, yes it's good for 1080p. High settings in most games, but not in some newer games.

[normal hawk]

128bit is the same ratio as the 192bit in the 6700xt.

64 bits per 4gbs of VRAM.

And the 6900xt has the same ratio too. At 256 bit for 16gbs VRAM. 🤔

[livid idol]

Yep. And the infinity fabric makes up for the reduced bus size.

[normal hawk]

Imma get one of those when my 3080 ti is worth 20$ at the end of the year

Probably not a 7700xt. But you get the point

I'm curious as to what they'll upgrade in the next gen refreshes in 2023-2025.

👀 Ps5 pro and the next Xbox Series gonna be crazy if they use these MCM GPU set ups.

[livid idol]

Well it's looking like next gen nvidia might be one to skip anyway with it still being monolithic. Power draw is looking to be a bit out of hand.

[ivory herald]

40 series is gonna be almost like Intel's 11gen vs 10gen.

[livid idol]

Nah at least the 4090 will be better than the 3090, unlike Intel 10900/11900

80%+ better I've seen, depending on power limit. Up to 120% at 600W.

[ivory herald]

Twice as fast? Yea.... sure, ok Nvidia. Actually decent efficiency VS a 3090 Ti, especially OC'd models. Of course it's something like the 4070 we're really itching to see.

[livid idol]

80% better at 450W (100W higher than 3090 FE) is possible. Generational jump of 50% per Watt isn't unheard of.

4070 is slated to match the 3080 ti, maybe 3090

[ivory herald]

cool, I might be hunting for a 4070 then unless it's literally a price similar to a 3080 has been. Speaking of 11gen, I finally bought an 11700 from hws that'll go on the 500 series mobo I've had. Waiting 2 days for a ram auction to end.

[livid idol]

Oh I 100% promise it'll be a ridiculous msrp for these, now that these companies have seen just how much we'll pay for a GPU

[ivory herald]

Ah that's right. Well at least 30 series continues to get better stocked and priced. Gotta keep my eyes on deal threads. There are some wacky low sales sporadically

[royal kernel]

remember that fake 1050ti from earlier?

i kinda wanna get it running just to see if it can work

how would i go about installing drivers so it can display

[lone pond]

If it’s fake then the manufacturer/seller should provide some weird drivers or windows might auto install whatever seems to work for the card (not 100% sure)

I think you can just try safe mode and it’ll use the default windows driver

But why get a fake card

Lol

[cerulean rover]

Usually they make the card believe it's actually a 1050ti

even though its a gt460 or smth

See if GPUz can tell you what it actually is, and download that driver specifically

[royal kernel]

lmao i already have it

[lone pond]

good idea

[lone pond]

Oh

[royal kernel]

that’s the problem it just doesn’t display

and i can’t start it up while plugged into integrated graphics

[cerulean rover]

If it just straight up doesn't work, it might not even be a graphics card

[royal kernel]

previous owner says it works fine on his computer

like what i’m saying is can i find a way to install whatever drivers it needs without it being plugged into the system

[cerulean rover]

Wack

[royal kernel]

or is there anything i can do on my pc that lets it do what it needs to do

like clean the pcie slot or do something like that

[cerulean rover]

dunno, set the pcie slot to like gen 2 in bios maybe?

[royal kernel]

hmm

[summer condor]

talk about silicon lottery

[magic wing]

!ubm

[dreamy dragon]

`UserBenchmark is NOT a reliable source of information and has been blanket banned in many hardware communities such as r/hardware and r/intel for what started as an anti-AMD bias but has spiraled into delusion.

In fact, they tried so hard to skew results in favor of Intel's midrange that they even cannibalized Intel's own high end. For example, according to UserBenchmark, the i3-9350K is rated higher than the i9-10980XE.

For a similarly convenient quick-and-dirty hardware comparison website, we recommend using PassMark instead of UserBenchmark.

PassMark CPU comparison: https://www.cpubenchmark.net/singleCompare.php
PassMark GPU comparison: https://www.videocardbenchmark.net/singleCompare.php
Want to know more?: https://youtu.be/RQSBj2LKkWg`

[magic wing]

userbenchmark is garbage

dont trust it

use 3dmark timespy demo

or passmark

userbenchmark doesnt really test

[summer condor]

okay bet

[rustic pulsar]

Use timespy on steam

[summer condor]

wtf you have to pay for it now?

[magic wing]

theres a demo

thats free

and contains timespy

[summer condor]

took me a minute to find it

Currently boosted to 2205 MHz waiting on download to finish

[summer condor]

time spy keeps crashing and the demo movie is too annoying to deal with it

ill try passmark

[magic wing]

unstable overclock

[summer condor]

ran fine on heaven

didn't crash until around 2210~ MHz

[magic wing]

heaven is like 10 years old at this point

Its great

but its not as great as timespy

if timespy crashes, ur oc is unstable

simple as that

@summer condor

[summer condor]

still not bad

ill give timespy another try

[magic wing]

if crash, oc is unstable

its not a timespy error

[green harness]

I'd go further and say an OC can be Timespy stable and unstable elsewhere. I've been able to get OCs to complete TS, PR, etc and had them reliably crash in games.

There are degrees of stability

[magic wing]

Indeed

but timespy unstable is 100% unstable

[green harness]

For sure

And yeah ubm is trash

[magic wing]

Pato has passed timespy and crashed in overwatch

[green harness]

I never test an OCs stability in multiplayer

[magic wing]

He wasnt testing

he was done testing

[green harness]

And actually my daily drive OC is pretty modest because for daily use I want stability more than an extra 1-2% perf

[green harness]

Oof

[magic wing]

also overwatch is a cpu bound esports title

which is the funny part

[green harness]

I don't know if others have found this, but I've found games with rtx on (metro Exodus for example) crash more readily due to an OC than other games on my card

[magic wing]

hmmm

interesting

running a stress test at 4k instead of monitor res will do that too tho

[green harness]

Huh, I didn't realize that. I've run Timespy extreme even though I have a 1440p monitor (works fine ofc) but I don't think I've done a stress test at 4k

[magic wing]

basically more stress on the gpu one way or another i guess

[summer condor]

used the msi oc scanner tool to find a stable clock. clocked around 1995 to 2010 MHz

[magic wing]

Dont use any auto oc app really

they all be crap

just do it yourself

[heady turtle]

I did 4 runs of TS and crashed in overwatch and I play low settings in a cpu limited game lol

[normal hawk]

Are you sure it was a GPU crash at that point? Genuinely curious as to how you tell the difference

[heady turtle]

Yes lol in event viewer you see the driver crash

And when I tuned down GPU oc it never crashed again

And Overwatch is a very stable game never randomly crashes

[wicked hound]

Apex and Atomic Heart Demo are good core stability checks. TSE and SuperPos 8k are good memory checks.

As for GPU thung pato got, GPU was most likely stable at full load but not at light loads. Think back to Ampere release and the fake news about lack of MLCC caps caused crashes when it was just OCing too hard at lightish loads.

[fossil talon]

lmao in stock online now

BB Canada

[main sandal]

they've been in stock for a long time in the best buy in anderson/greenville SC

[rugged thunder]

Thinking of getting a 3060 and putting it in my prebuilt

Lol

It should be fine with a low powered cpu

400 watt psu

[livid idol]

That's cutting it VERY close even with a 65W processor

[rugged thunder]

I know

But doable

And funny

[livid idol]

What model power supply is it? There's a fair chance it'll just burn out under sustained load. Or catch fire.

[rugged thunder]

It's a prebuilt, dunno

Its premium efficiency

Platinum*

[livid idol]

lol that means nothing

[rugged thunder]

Nor premium

[livid idol]

Oh is it one of those Dell ones?

[rugged thunder]

Hp

Not dell

I don't touch dell

Every laptop I've owned from them as a kid died in like a year

[livid idol]

Ok. Here's the deal with those. It will do 400W max. The second you ask for more it will shut down.

There's also a chance you won't have all the pcie connectors you need

[rugged thunder]

True

I don't know many gpus that are a good upgrade from the 1660 super

That'll be fine on the 400 watt

I do think HP makes 500 watt models for this pc

[livid idol]

What model?

There's often adapters, and if it's what I think it is you can get a standard 12VO power supply with an adapter

[rugged thunder]

Model of PSU?

Or pc

[livid idol]

PC model. I can find the PSU model from that.

[rugged thunder]

Ah

TG01-0023w

Pavilion line

My bad

[livid idol]

HP really doesn't want us to know anything about their power supply. I couldn't find a lot of info on it.
If you have a multimeter I can tell you how to find the pinout of the main 4 pin connector and CPU connector. It's almost certainly a modified 12VO power supply. If they didn't change the pinout you should be able to use one of those.

[rugged thunder]

Yeah HP doesn't really say much about the parts

[livid idol]

Or if you don't have one you can just get the 500W model for $105 shipped from asia

[rugged thunder]

Probably

The gpu uses those weird 6+2 connections

I think that's what it's called

[livid idol]

6+2 is normal for GPUs

[rugged thunder]

Ah

[livid idol]

It's the motherboard using only 4 pins instead of 24 that's different

[rugged thunder]

When I got the 1660 super I was initially upset it took 8 pins

Then I saw the extra 2 pins on the cable

[rugged thunder]

This?

I aint good with recognizing internals

[livid idol]

Yes that's it

I guess I could figure out the pinout from the cable colors

Oh dang I just realized there's no pwr_ok or ps_on on that, an adapter won't work without further rewiring and modification

[rugged thunder]

Ah

Pain

Probably have to rebuild the pc

[livid idol]

That's typically what happens with these prebuilts. Just a bunch of scrap once any one part is no longer usable.

[rugged thunder]

Like

I think It was a fair deal

Just dumb how they handicapped it

Was like $500 at Walmart

Can't complain too much

[fading glacier]

especially hp prebuilts.. a lot of oem parts

[rugged thunder]

Yea