graphics-cards

[stuck plinth]

Wow

[hot folio]

Between the 3060ti and 3070 there’s about 5-10%

[cerulean rover]

Ehm

Might be a bit high there on the estimate

[stuck plinth]

Hopefully by the time I have the money I can snag one

[hot folio]

I know it’s not exact I’m giving just a rough estimate

[stuck plinth]

Currently I’m running a 1060 though so any 3060 is a definite upgrade lol

[cerulean rover]

From TPU testing, looks to be 20-30% increase on average

From 3060 to 3060ti

[stuck plinth]

I just want a 1080p build for my first one. I really can’t afford a 1440 build and new monitors lol

[cerulean rover]

3060 isn't bad in general

[hot folio]

Really? I thought it used to be around 40%

If all you want is 1080p a 3060 should be fine

[livid idol]

3060 is still about the performance of a 2070

[hot folio]

Keep in mind it’s between a 2060 super and 2070

[livid idol]

You can do 1440p 60 fps with that

[cerulean rover]

Here's averaged testing, TPU had the biggest difference at 1440p

I'm looking at charts

Averaged from like 30 games TPU tests

[hot folio]

Actually it’s on par with a 2060 super according to Passmark

[cerulean rover]

Passmark isn't accurate for gaming performance

[stuck plinth]

If I can snag a super I’ll go for it

[hot folio]

True

[cerulean rover]

It's a good sense, but not accurate for gaming perf, I'd trust in-game benchmarks much more for games

[hot folio]

I forget most people are just looking at GPUs for gaming

[lone pond]

When do 3070tis drop on newegg ?

[hot folio]

Thursday

June 10th

They most likely will show up in the shuffle

[stuck plinth]

So do y’all just refresh until one pops up in stock??

Is that what the shuffle is?

[cerulean rover]

Nah, use something that notified you for stock

Shuffle is different

Shuffle gives you like a 2 hour window to enter, and random people get selected for a chance to buy

[livid idol]

https://www.newegg.com/product-shuffle

Most weekday mornings (PST) there will be a shuffle on that page, select the things you want, and you get put in the lottery for the available units

[stuck plinth]

Thanks I will def try that!!!

[hot folio]

Chances are really low but always a chance

I’ve been trying it for about 3 months before I got my 3090 with no luck

[livid idol]

Persistence pays off, took me a few months too

[hot folio]

I gave up on it and bought an NZXT prebuilt

[cerulean rover]

Some people get lucky and win their first one

Some take a few months

[livid idol]

And then some people win 9 times 😫

[green harness]

Just assume you are going to collect an L every time you enter the shuffle but make sure to check your email

Can't go wrong that way

[acoustic ginkgo]

I won a 3060 from the shuffle.

[slim vessel]

gg, buy me a rx

fingers got ahead of brain there

[limber flax]

Rule #9

No selling

[vital oriole]

ah yes already a potential scalper

[fading citrus]

Scalper

[vital oriole]

meh they cant sell here anyway

[limber flax]

but I HaVe A RTGTX42069 FoR SaLE For $82171231

[spare relic]

😳

[limber flax]

GoOD DEaL

[spare relic]

n o t sCa M

[glacial kelp]

I have a 1060 for sale, and the rule doesn't apply for 1060... It's 5k USD, or 4.5k Euro.

PM if interested.

[fading citrus]

@glacial kelp 5000$

[glacial kelp]

Bargain.

[fading citrus]

😳

Arm and a leg cost

[glacial kelp]

Worth every penny. State of the art technology. For the medieval times 😄

[fading citrus]

Not rich enough to pay Rs. 364950

[open lake]

im just trying to buy a 3080 and dump the 2060S i bought last year. got the 1440p monitor AFTER i bought the card 😅

[steel flame]

Hey guys. Just want to ask a quick question to you all. I'm pretty new to pc building and I just picked up a gpu (gigabyte rtx 2070 WINDFORCE 2x) so I could finish my build. I've overclocked the gpu and set the temp limit to 88 C. I've noticed that the gpu is running very hot while playing games like Ark and Gta. Even with the fan speed set to 100% and a custom fan curve, the gpu is still running at 87 C constant while gaming. I haven't noticed any thermal throttling. My question is: Is it bad for the gpu if it's running at 87 C constant while gaming?

[heady turtle]

You won't need to worry untill it's about 95c or so, but it could be your case holding you back if it's a bad airflow case

What case is it?

[steel flame]

That can be right let me look up the name.

Sharkoon pure steel rgb

[heady turtle]

Yeah your case is quite bad for airflow

[steel flame]

Does it really mater if it isn't thermal throttling?

[heady turtle]

Not really but just nicer to have lower temps it means less heat pumped into your room as well, your fans will die sooner more likely, if they're running at 100% all the time tho

[acoustic ginkgo]

Oh wow, even my case has front vents. That Sharkoon case just has a solid panel.

[steel flame]

Thanks for the fast reply and useful information. Luckily I still have a 4 year warranty😃

[heady turtle]

Yeah no problem, i would consider an airflow case for your next build/if you upgrade parts to anything higher end btw

[acoustic ginkgo]

I have a Phanteks Eclipse P360x...

[heady turtle]

Some of yall need to watch the first 20 mins or so of wan show btw about msrps and stuff

[hot folio]

Lancool II Mesh, easily the best airflow case

[cerulean rover]

one of the*

[magic wing]

Corsair 5000d airflow better

[magic wing]

I have a trash corsair case lol

[hot folio]

Personally I think the 5000d airflow is overrated unless you’re doing a loop

As well as any full towers

I have the black RGB version waiting to be built in

I got the black version 50% off

[lone pond]

rx 570 8gb or rx 580 4gb?

which one would be better to keep

or better in general

[fossil talon]

I meant to get that case but it's never in stock in Canada 😭

Ikr

I don't want to overpay and pay third parties

Also fully vaxxed today!

[glacial kelp]

Definitely the 570 for the 8gb of vram.

It's not like 580 is way better.

[normal hawk]

The microcenter has 6700xt's, a 6800, and a 6900xt in stock but the prices are dumb e.e

[heady turtle]

The 4000d/5000d just look so clean tho

[heady turtle]

Probs rx 580 4gb

[livid idol]

I'm planning on a 5000d myself for when I do my custom loop

[heady turtle]

My 4000d was soooo easy to build in and hide cables, I'd imagine it's the same for 5000d, 100% recommend

[karmic crag]

4/5000d are super slick, I'll probably get that case if I do a huge build overhaul

[livid idol]

First I have to figure out how to adapt the fittings that came with the gpu aio. I currently have no idea what the interior diameter is so I'll need to break the loop to figure out sizes. Then I'll figure out if I can reuse anything in my cpu loop too. It'd be interesting if I could keep both pumps running, I wouldn't need to worry about getting a strong enough pump for such a large case.

Picture the most ghetto rigged, mismatched loop you can and that's pretty much what it'll look like

[supple socket]

oh that sounds nice, im getting a 4000d, lookin to have a clean setup 😁

[livid idol]

I kinda have to because there's no custom water block that fits my gpu, it's this weird short pcb

[late haven]

whats the best gpu for a 500w psu

[vital pivot]

@livid idol is that a custom PCB on your 3090?

anyone see the video of snoopdog trying to buy a 3080ti

[livid idol]

Yes it's a gigabyte 3090 aorus extreme waterforce. Custom pcb. It's shorter than the reference.

[vital pivot]

interesting

[glacial narwhal]

is there any expected release time for the 3050 series?

[tender mulch]

Not yet. Currently theyre laptop gpus

[mellow glen]

Best Buy should be restocking this week ye?

[karmic crag]

no one knows, ever

[livid idol]

They just did on Thursday

For the 3080 ti launch

[karmic crag]

3080 tis only, though

no other ampere/amd cards

[crystal dust]

no shot

[hot folio]

I’m excited for this Thursday

[cerulean rover]

It'll be interesting

[hot folio]

A friend’s brother is going to try to save a 3070ti for me so I have decent hopes

[cerulean rover]

Peripherals question but iirc actuation force, different springs.

[hot folio]

Wait yeah my bad

Sorry

Yep it does

Depends on the store

Microcenter it’s 10

[hollow frigate]

Does anyone know why all the non reference amd cards are like $500 more than MSRP from every retailer?

[livid idol]

If you're in the USA that's partly due to tariffs against China, if you're in the EU there's VAT tax on imports. AIB partners always charge a little more for their cards too, usually 10-20% over msrp.

[hollow frigate]

Oh ok. I noticed amd cards come in stock more often, but they are very expesive.

[livid idol]

They are definitely more expensive than their RTX competitors, I don't know what AMD was thinking besides $$$$$$ charging that much.

You probably only notice them in stock more because the RTX cards sell out in under 0.5 seconds, but the more expensive and less full-featured RX cards have a lower resale value so they stay in stock for up to a minute.

[hollow frigate]

I'm in a discord were you can set it to ping you when certain cards come in stock

[cerulean rover]

there are multiple

some notify earlier than others

Best chance is to just enter a good few and just get the notif first xD

[livid idol]

By the time a RTX card is in stock it's already out of stock, so the stock bots those discord channels use don't even get to see it in stock

[hollow frigate]

I have gotten a card in my cart like 8 times

Buy the time I get through the address and stuff they are gone

[cerulean rover]

Hey, I got a 3070 in cart once even though I was like 3 minutes late to a notification xD

[livid idol]

Me too but the bots can get it in the cart and purchased in under a second, while you're still loading the cart

[hollow frigate]

Yeah

Rn I'm just hoping to win a shuffle

[livid idol]

Shuffle seems to be the most fair chance yeah

[cerulean rover]

yea

[opal sage]

Sad but true

[glacial kelp]

Hilarious :)) So we are not alone.

[glacial kelp]

Install a browser add on that automatically fills the fields.

Go to another product, make the add on fill the fields properly, so it's ready for the GPU, and wait.

For chrome, you can use this https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/autofill/nlmmgnhgdeffjkdckmikfpnddkbbfkkk?hl=en

[heady turtle]

Great choice

[heady turtle]

As long as it has 2 pcie powered connectors, rtx 2060

[hollow frigate]

It is already filled, Amazon makes me select it evertime.

[twin prairie]

hello, is it still posible to fix a gpu that can still boot and the fan still spinning but no display? cause I want to buy it, it's only 40$ rx570 and go to repair shop pay 5$

[heady turtle]

Ehhh it's possible but you would have to do it yourself and it would not cost 5$ to fix even if there were a shop for it lol

Quite unlikely tho and usually not worth the effort unless you got it for free then mb

[glacial kelp]

Get another browser addon that fills it so you don't have to make it.

[hollow frigate]

It is already filled. I have multiple addresses on my Amazon account, so it ask me everytime which one I would like to use.

[twin prairie]

where to buy these square on store? what type of store? i want to practice myself repair gpu

[magic wing]

dont

not in this time

where getting another one is difficult

[twin prairie]

why? i am bored and curious

[magic wing]

take it to a pro

[magic wing]

Literally told you why before you asked...

also if ur calling them squares there is no way you even remotely know what your thinking of doing

[spare relic]

mm yes get the beep boop square and put it in the thing

[twin prairie]

here is the pic, i just try maybe i become one of the genius if i sucess this 😂

[cerulean rover]

@twin prairie I'd just do a lot more research before just diving in like that...

That 'square' could be some controller, could be transistor, could be mosfet for vrm, could be sensor, who knows without research...

[vital pivot]

@twin prairie if you really want to know more about the various components of the card, look up buildzoid on you tube. He does card analysis and breakdowns.

[warped ravine]

If you arent set up for working with surface mounted components, even if you manage to solder those pieces youll most likely fry them from excessive heat.

[torpid garden]

Great channel for gpu repair https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCds8ge1czX9hNqWX8xRVmhw @twin prairie

[rich wraith]

[tender mulch]

$80 shipping wat

[granite obsidian]

Scalp

[lone pond]

Is the i 10500k grapics better then a gts 250

[heady turtle]

Do you mean 10600k?

And yes i think so

[heady turtle]

Asdf?

[flint vigil]

asdf movies

he's got a nose!!!

[stiff ruin]

Do you guys know what model this is

[tender mulch]

Just a 2070 black

XC ULtra had uber thick heatsink

[fossil talon]

Poor PC it's so dusty

[tender mulch]

Could be XC Gaming as well

[fossil talon]

Irrc, 2070 Black doesn't have a backplate versus the 2070 XC Gaming which does

Therefore it's a 2070 EVGA Black

Yep definitely is. Also can tell via the 8 pin vs 6+8pin

[cerulean rover]

Hm

Single 8 pin on a 2070, wacky

[fossil talon]

Yee

And oops didn't see I messed up the #s, having slight migraines from 2nd dose

[cerulean rover]

Is ok, go get some rest

[brisk dune]

Hey, I'm new here. Looking to know if some parts that I recently got will work well with this gpu that I'm looking at. Any tips and or advice is greatly appreciated!

[finite oak]

How much are 2080s worth?

[drowsy kiln]

$900-1000 usually

https://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_from=R40&_nkw=RTX+2080&_sacat=0&rt=nc&LH_Sold=1&LH_Complete=1

[inland mesa]

absolutely crazy to me that one of today’s best deals is a 2060 for nearly $600

Check this out on @bitter bear: ASUS GeForce RTX 2060 Overclocked 6G GDDR6 Dual-Fan EVO Edition VR Ready HDMI DisplayPort DVI Graphics Card (DUAL-RTX2060-O6G-EVO) https://www.newegg.com/asus-geforce-rtx-2060-dual-rtx2060-o6g-evo/p/N82E16814126349?Item=9SIAPBUD732142&Source=socialshare&cm_mmc=snc-social-_-sr-_-9SIAPBUD732142-_-06062021

[inland mesa]

maybe a little more info would allow us to help?

[lone pond]

any advice on how to get a gpu? not sure if talk about botting is allowed or not here, I assume its not

[analog wolf]

Brand new was a tested card at AMD and was 80 dollars it's a rx480 btw

[tender mulch]

Is it yours?

[analog wolf]

Yes

[tender mulch]

Can discuss it rather you didnt try and get a bot here.

[analog wolf]

I diming him

[tender mulch]

About?

[tender mulch]

What are you doing eith the card?

[analog wolf]

Using fir build

The thing about the card us since it was one of the first cards it says in the board of the card it's a 470 but o. The tag it's a 480 and clocks at 480 speeds

This is the build

But I'm buying a different board

The cpu is a 5800x I know it's over kill I'm just waiting for the rtx 3060 to be msrp or close
A 5000 series fan
A rx480
A msi tomahawk arsenal b350 motherboard
And 8GB ram
All at the price of 220 dollars
My friend works at amd so i got it from him:)

[lone pond]

is a 3060 or 2080 more worth

[livid idol]

2080 is more powerful and higher value (in theory)

A 3060 is slightly below a 2070

[tender mulch]

350 with a 5800x and a single 8 gb sodimm of ram????

Uh. Ok.

[chilly spoke]

[livid idol]

^

[analog wolf]

The ram he scrapped from computer and gave to me for free I know you can't use it in these motherboards

[tender mulch]

I hope different ram as well

Good. Cant use 5000 series on b350 lol

[analog wolf]

If I did I would be screaming in pain

Plus the motherboard is actully not opened

And if you live close to me you will know the over 350 of these boards are being donating

I actually recommend the rx480 and rx470 they perform really well as the 470 performed identical to the gtx 1060 and the 480 performs better than gtx 1070 and are usually under 200 on ebay normal scalper prices

[lone pond]

No......the 480 does not perform better than a 1070

not even close

[tender mulch]

1060 6 gb beats out a 480 in most games lol.

[jaunty mango]

hey @tender mulch i have a question

so i have my gt710 overclocked and i am having small instability issues like itll glitch the whole screen out and then black screen then come back and in some cases just lock up no bsod

does that mean an unstable oc or is there another issue

[tender mulch]

Get rid of the OC

That will tell

[jaunty mango]

ok

i slightly lowered the oc

The weird thing is the oc had no instability before it just now cropped up

[green harness]

Wait. Why are you overclocking a gt 710? This makes me so curious

[jaunty mango]

I’m using it as a temp card for the tile until I can save enough for something like a 2060 or rx 5500xt

Because the iGPU in my ryzen 5 is screwy cause of the drivers

And I’m gonna maximize the performance sine I don’t really care about longevity

[jaunty mango]

ok so i had to bump it down further to +175 on the core clock since that was the "safe" oc on this one site i found

[tender mulch]

Overclocking should be done with testing, not numbers found on the internet. 😉 Something like Timespy, etc

[jaunty mango]

ah well it hasnt done anything yet with +175 so ill just mess around and see if it does it again

Ok I take that back it just stuttered real bad and then bsod with a DPC_WATCHDOG_VIOLATION stop code

Yea I think it was obvious but I don’t think overclocking a gt710 was a good idea

Lmao

I feel like that was fairly obvious but I just wanted to max out that gpu and see what kinda performance I can get

I’m gonna see if the memory clock causes any instability

[tender mulch]

Well, to be fair, this is why you don't just use numbers from other forums, etc. It's why overclocking takes some time to do with benchmarks, etc. Probably can overclock it, just not as much as you think.

[jaunty mango]

Yea

[tender mulch]

my 3070 OC took a few hours but it was worth it

before

after

[jaunty mango]

Yea

Yea although I don’t think that the gt710 was exactly meant for being pushed to its limits

[livid idol]

It's possible that the specific BSOD you just got is another driver entirely as well. If you still have issues after going back to stock run whocrashed or upload the dump files so I (or someone else) will analyze them

[jaunty mango]

Ok

Luckily I still have whocrashed from a previous troubleshooting of an issue

[livid idol]

That's always handy to have

[jaunty mango]

Yea

ok here is what it spit out at me

On Sun 6/6/2021 8:44:52 PM your computer crashed or a problem was reported
crash dump file: C:\WINDOWS\MEMORY.DMP
This was probably caused by the following module: nvlddmkm.sys (nvlddmkm+0xbfc91)
Bugcheck code: 0x133 (0x0, 0x501, 0x500, 0xFFFFF804410FA320)
Error: DPC_WATCHDOG_VIOLATION
file path: C:\WINDOWS\System32\DriverStore\FileRepository\nv_dispi.inf_amd64_1108979a670abe46\nvlddmkm.sys
product: NVIDIA Windows Kernel Mode Driver, Version 466.63
company: NVIDIA Corporation
description: NVIDIA Windows Kernel Mode Driver, Version 466.63
Bug check description: The DPC watchdog detected a prolonged run time at an IRQL of DISPATCH_LEVEL or above. This could be caused by either a non-responding driver or non-responding hardware. This bug check can also occur because of overheated CPUs (thermal issue).
A third party driver was identified as the probable root cause of this system error. It is suggested you look for an update for the following driver: nvlddmkm.sys (NVIDIA Windows Kernel Mode Driver, Version 466.63 , NVIDIA Corporation).
Google query: nvlddmkm.sys NVIDIA Corporation DPC_WATCHDOG_VIOLATION

[livid idol]

Yep that's a Nvidia driver

[jaunty mango]

Yea

[tender mulch]

"This could be caused by either a non-responding driver or non-responding hardware. This bug check can also occur because of overheated CPUs (thermal issue). "

[jaunty mango]

well it isnt my cpu over heating cause at idle i sit around 40 degrees

and the gpu is at about 30 degrees

[livid idol]

Non-responding driver or hardware is more likely than heat, and that's very likely your overclock causing that

[jaunty mango]

yea

well i removed the oc and so far it hasnt done anything but based on any other time i trouble shoot im gonna give it a couple minutes and ill say if i find anything

ok so still same issue but it didnt fully crash the computer so im just gonna completely remove the oc and not really try to mess with it

[green harness]

Have you tried slowly stepping up the OC or are you just jumping straight to +175?

[jaunty mango]

i jumped straight to +175 but bumped it up to +200 with no issue and the issue like just started when i just got home today and i played for a while and it just started causing instability

even at +175 now it throws a fit

[green harness]

You could try stepping up from 0 to +25, +50, etc

[jaunty mango]

yea ill try that later but im just gonna play without an oc for now

[green harness]

You just want to verify that performance improves

[jaunty mango]

yea

[green harness]

gl!

[jaunty mango]

thank you

Interesting the bsod that I had plus some issues are persistent even though the oc is completely disabled

[jaunty mango]

Yea @tender mulch the problems don’t appear to be cause by the over clock

[idle idol]

is newegg dropping older GPU models?

the 16 series?

[spare relic]

nvidia no longer produces 16 series

[vital oriole]

^

and 16 series ain't that popular

[fossil talon]

was popular amongst fortnite PC builders aka the 1660 reign

[magic wing]

not only fortnite

[spare relic]

I really wanted a 1650 super

[magic wing]

1060 still top charts

steam hardware survey wise

[spare relic]

😎

[fossil talon]

lol

[spare relic]

[glacial kelp]

I have never OCed gpus, but why does it take so long? You need to test various setups?

[heady turtle]

Need to run stress tests in the middle of each oc to test stability

Would probs take 1hr ish

[glacial kelp]

I see, so it's setups. I thought there are enough tests online so you know what model goes where.

So you have to do limited testing.

[heady turtle]

Well every single card will differ, silicon lottery

But you just do an oc, test it in timespy or something

Then oc again until crash

Then bring back a bit

Then test

[glacial kelp]

I only oced RAM, but those tests take a lifetime

[heady turtle]

Then up the memory or something

[glacial kelp]

And I am not sure I feel comfortable in OCing CPU and GPU

[heady turtle]

Gpu is easy to oc without touching voltage, so if you don't touch voltage you can't hurt your gpu

Cpu if you just keep under the max recommended voltage for your chip people would be able to help, but gpu oc way easier

[glacial kelp]

How does it affect lifetime?

[magic wing]

not even a little if done properly

[heady turtle]

Gpu? None because you're not touching voltage

[magic wing]

uhh

why no touch voltage

[heady turtle]

Not needed for gpu oc, just krank the power in afterburner, up the core and mem

[magic wing]

undervolt overclock best

[glacial kelp]

Interesting thing, I thought lifetime goes down a lot in OCing

[magic wing]

not even a little

what parts you got?

[glacial kelp]

Now the question is, would you OC a 5900? Or do it later, next year, when it's older.

For now I have an old GPU, 1060, hunting a 3060ti on msrp.

[heady turtle]

For beginners it's easiest to just leave the voltage alone

[glacial kelp]

That 1060 is not really worth OCing, since the gains are minimal 😄

[heady turtle]

Oc that 1060 boi

[glacial kelp]

Hm, going to search the pins for tutorials.

[magic wing]

I would just slap on PBO for that tbh

[glacial kelp]

PBO?

Chinese 😄

[magic wing]

Absolutely OC that 1060

[heady turtle]

Precision boost overdrive

[glacial kelp]

Woaaaa, need to check the pins cause I have no idea what these are 😛

[magic wing]

crank up power and temps in the bios

[glacial kelp]

PBO sounds like PO box 😛

[magic wing]

voltage shouldnt cross 1.3V

[heady turtle]

Stefan download msi afterburner and 3d mark timespy demo on Steam and we can help ya oc that gpu

[magic wing]

yep

[glacial kelp]

MSi I already have, 3d mark going to get it.

Starting steam and downloading 3d

[magic wing]

Heaven is also an option

actually better for testing OC than 3dmark

and smaller download

[heady turtle]

Nah

Heaven isn't as power hungry

And timespy gives you a score you can compare too

[magic wing]

It strains the GPU more from experiance

[heady turtle]

I don't think so?

From my experience not as much

[glacial kelp]

For some reason clicking on 3d Download in Steam does nothing

[magic wing]

I can run far higher timings on Timespy than heaven

[glacial kelp]

A popup appears and disappears quickly

[heady turtle]

Make sure you download the demo?

[heady turtle]

Wth really? Wack ¯_(ツ)_/¯

[glacial kelp]

I think I was on the wrong page 😄

[magic wing]

yep

[heady turtle]

If you google 3d mark timespy demo steam it should bring you to the right one

[glacial kelp]

Yup, I just did that and it installed fine.

[magic wing]

should take a hot minute

[glacial kelp]

Still downloading, it seems it's big

[magic wing]

its what 6.something GB

[heady turtle]

Yeah it's a bit big

[glacial kelp]

35 mb/s

[heady turtle]

Should take like 5 mins or so

[magic wing]

mb/s or MB/s

[heady turtle]

Damm nice

[magic wing]

Thats 200mbps wifi

[glacial kelp]

38 now

[magic wing]

Very nice

[magic wing]

STOP THE FLEX

[glacial kelp]

Well, I also got a 1060 😄

[magic wing]

I hate my isp

[glacial kelp]

No tell 😄

[magic wing]

I have an RX570

[glacial kelp]

Our RTX wait for us

[heady turtle]

Probs more because i only get like half my rate usually

[glacial kelp]

Done

What do I do now?

[magic wing]

I was talking real world speed wise

[magic wing]

launch both

[heady turtle]

Ohh yeah zooomy

[glacial kelp]

Just a sec to close everything else.

[magic wing]

go 10% on core

10% on mem

keep voltage same

[glacial kelp]

Where? 😄 In MSI?

[magic wing]

yes

[heady turtle]

Krank the power all the way to the right

[magic wing]

no need

[heady turtle]

Useful

Lets oc bit further

[magic wing]

not without adjusting voltages

[glacial kelp]

So how do I do it? 😄

[magic wing]

try +50 on both

[glacial kelp]

Goood

Done

Do I have to click Apply somewhere?

[magic wing]

yep

[magic wing]

bottom

[glacial kelp]

Save

[magic wing]

the tick with circle

[glacial kelp]

Dischete

[magic wing]

not save

[glacial kelp]

Ah, ok

Yup, done.

[magic wing]

now in 3dmark hit run

[heady turtle]

Just for the sake of it pull power all the way to the right, it does help

[glacial kelp]

Power limit?

[heady turtle]

Ye

[magic wing]

if it freezes or shuts off on its own then the OC isnt stable

safe but not stable

dont worry too much about it

[glacial kelp]

Clicking Run 😄

I salute you.

I also went full right on power

[magic wing]

download gpuz as well

[glacial kelp]

Already have it.

And cpuz

[magic wing]

run GPUz and screenshot

[glacial kelp]

Let's see, now my 1060 is as good as a 3090

Underclocked 😄

[magic wing]

put the mem at +300 actually

and core at +200

[glacial kelp]

FYI, the GPU is still on the old PC, I haven't assembled the new one because I will go to a friend in another city to help me.

[magic wing]

aight

put the mem at +300 actually
and core at +200

try this

[glacial kelp]

Ok, closing test

[magic wing]

your card should be able to run it

[heady turtle]

+200 night crash but worth a shot i guess

[magic wing]

we can drop to 175 if crash

[heady turtle]

Just remember the overclock for when you change system then

[magic wing]

crash isnt harmful in this circumstance tbh

[heady turtle]

Yeeyye

[glacial kelp]

Definitely going to save print screens.

Running 3d again

[magic wing]

200 and 300

[heady turtle]

Don't do 211

[glacial kelp]

Ah, ok

I thought +200 means a bit over 200 :))

[heady turtle]

The core goes up in 25s basically

[glacial kelp]

I am such a noob

[heady turtle]

Nah like in the box +200 lol

[magic wing]

Nah we will give you the exact values dw

[heady turtle]

It's fine lol dw we all started somewhere

[glacial kelp]

Thank you very much both of you

[magic wing]

yep go for it

apply and start test again

[magic wing]

NP

[heady turtle]

Yeah yw :)

[glacial kelp]

Applied, running now.

Done, no crashes.

Can't wait to see the 5900 test with the 1060 😄

[heady turtle]

Try +250 +350 then

[glacial kelp]

Thank you.

[magic wing]

225 350 is a better bet

[glacial kelp]

250 350 crashed.

Trying 225 350

[heady turtle]

Yeah was gonna say 225 but would have gone to 250 anyway

[glacial kelp]

225 350 went fine.

[heady turtle]

Nice now try 400 mem

Leave the core as is

[glacial kelp]

Gooood, doing it now.

[magic wing]

Im back

[magic wing]

i see pato had you covered

[glacial kelp]

225 400 went fine too.

[magic wing]

try 425 mem

[glacial kelp]

Gooood, thank you. Doing it now

[magic wing]

btw keep gpuz open and monitor what Core is at

[glacial kelp]

Gpu core clock?

Sensors tab?

[magic wing]

yep

GPU clock

keep an eye on that and while timespy is running

wait timespy quits itself if you pull another app in the foreground

Download heaven benchmark

[glacial kelp]

225-425 ran fine, no need to download anything else cause I have dual screens. 1st graphics test the core was stable around 2062, 1nd graphics test was 1999-2062

And now i have to live to run some errands, please let me know what to test text, thank you.

[drowsy kiln]

Quick question, do you think that an RTX 2080-Ti will be stable with a 650w 80+ bronze PSU.

It's 800w reccomended but pulls similar amount to a GTX 970 and I've ran a 970 on a 450w before so I'd assume it should be fine to at least verify that it is indeed a 2080-Ti (picking it up locally).

[heady turtle]

Don't need to, after every run timespy shows the clocks

[heady turtle]

I'd try +450 on mem

[magic wing]

those arent completely accurate

I wanna look for dips in core

because mem taken too high can start reducing core clock

[heady turtle]

It doesn't run the same power as a 970 nono

[drowsy kiln]

Thought both were 300w, maybe not

[heady turtle]

Although if you're just checking the card type, yeah it will turn on

[heady turtle]

970 is way less

[spare relic]

970 is 145w spec

980ti is 250w I think

[drowsy kiln]

Likely thinking 980-Ti then, but yea assumed it would be stable enough to turn on and boot into Windows

[heady turtle]

Fine to very its a 2080 ti yeah

Like it'll boot just don't load it

[magic wing]

tecnically you can set power linmit to 65-75% or so and use it normally

for games

[spare relic]

I'm pretty sure I remember people suggesting 2080Tis were fine on good 550w psus back when they were new

[drowsy kiln]

Oh yea I'd get a 850w or something, but its listed for $450 local so might as well meet at a coffee shop or something and test it.

Worst case I waste time driving, best case I will not have to upgrade for 4+ years

[dreamy dragon]

Syaple#9503 has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

[glacial kelp]

Doing it now. Thank you.

[glacial kelp]

So I should follow if core clock dips

[magic wing]

use heaven benchmark

and keep the sensor tab of gpuz open

[glacial kelp]

No need, I am dual screen, I have all tools open in the right screen, test running on left screen

[magic wing]

Ahh then u can use 3dmark

[glacial kelp]

Yup

right screen

[magic wing]

keep sensor tab open on one monitor and follow core clocks

yep start the benchmark

[glacial kelp]

3 2 1 😄

[heady turtle]

Just keep upping mem in 25mhz/50mhz intervals then until crash then real it back 25mhz until stable

[glacial kelp]

No clock dips, I will follow that each run.

[glacial kelp]

After I find the crashing values for both, should I test 5 5 5 5 5 ?

[magic wing]

25 mhz under crash

is what I would daily

[glacial kelp]

Good, then core clock is set to 225, and mem clock still needs testing, GPU z shows no dips in testing while increasing it, it's the same values each test for now.

Thank you both @heady turtle and @magic wing , now I am a master chef for ocing gpus 😄

[magic wing]

NP mate

enjoy the free extra FPS

[heady turtle]

Np :)

[glacial kelp]

Definitely! It's now closer to a 3060ti 😄

[tribal birch]

Plz sir can I have some more 😔

Just one more 3090

[heady turtle]

One more.........

Jeez let some people get 1 first

[drowsy kiln]

Yes SLI 3090s best investment to make here in 2021

[heady turtle]

[spare relic]

I would like to get my brother a gpu but nomoney

[drowsy kiln]

Me over here with 7 GPUs... not for myself of course but for friends builds.

[heady turtle]

Well that's fine lol

[drowsy kiln]

Yea, not like I'm hording 30 series or something. Just a bunch of RX 570s and 970s

[heady turtle]

Also anyone that doesn't need 24gb of vram should just be getting a 80 ti and be happy about it if they were already looking at the 90

I just wanted a 1660 or equivalent ;-;

[drowsy kiln]

Yea, I'd love a 3060-Ti or 3070 for myself don't really need either tbh but if I get lucky with a BB drop wouldn't mind the upgrade. Can easily sell my current 1070-Ti for $400 give someone a deal and only end up paying $200-300 on a 30-series card (Paid $90 for the 1070-Ti).

[dry pecan]

Is the EVGA 3080ti really worth the $1400? Thinking about trying for it in the shuffle but 1: really want an Asus, and 2: $1400 is a bit steep.

[rich wraith]

What are the chances that the 3070 ti will be available in person at Best Buy like the 3080 ti was?

[drowsy kiln]

3080-Ti is just overpriced at MSRP to begin with, so $1400 is reasonable in that regard.

[dry pecan]

The TUF wasn't.

[drowsy kiln]

But good chance you can trade an EVGA for an ASUS for someone with cash on the side, people do that all the time.

[dry pecan]

THE TUF was right at MSRP.

[dry pecan]

True...I keep forgetting this factor lol

[drowsy kiln]

Yea, once you have the card pretty easy to find someone on r/hws or something that wanted an EVGA but got an ASUS or whatever

[rich wraith]

Guess I have to camp out that day at BB

Wish me luck lads

[drowsy kiln]

If you get there are there are 50+ people in line might as well head out think 3080-Tis only about 40 people got cards per location.

Should be a similar amount for 3070-Ti.

[karmic crag]

https://www.newegg.com/product-shuffle
newegg souffle

not too bad today

[glacial kelp]

Removed links 😛 Haven't checked the price because there is no 3060ti

Yes there is. I missed it.

[green harness]

What're you doing posting eBay and stockx links?

[glacial kelp]

Oops, I didn't know. Removing them.

[magic wing]

to none

[rich wraith]

I’ll be getting there at 6 am

[tender mulch]

People will be camping overnight.......line will probably be long at 6 AM

[livid idol]

People will be camping for at least 2 days tbh, good week to be a grubhub driver

[drowsy kiln]

Yea, getting there at 6am easily going to be 50+ maybe even 100+ people waiting

[livid idol]

I know you're probably joking but #rules number 9

[nova marlin]

Good deal or nah?

[tender mulch]

650 Euros?

Not good

[nova marlin]

Yes

Really?

[tender mulch]

That's new MSRP for an older card

In this market it's passable I guess

[nova marlin]

True but it’s a 1080ti

[winged pendant]

I wouldn’t go for it, even with the market it’s in right now.

[tender mulch]

It is

[nova marlin]

Okay thanks

[tender mulch]

I woulnd't either, 650 Euros should get you a 3060TI or 3070 if you can wait for one

[nova marlin]

What is MSRP for 1080ti

Or retail

[tender mulch]

$699 USD back when it was new

[nova marlin]

Oh

Goddam

What would you say is a good price range for it?

[halcyon plover]

400 -500 maybe

I wouldnt buy it for more then 400 tho

If you want dlss and rt just get a 3060ti or 3070 for abit more

[nova marlin]

It’s most likely for low demanding games, and competitive games

But I want a stable 144fps

[tender mulch]

1080TI still pretty capable TBH

[nova marlin]

True but people literally ask €800 for it

That’s straight up stupid

[halcyon plover]

Yeah its a great card just doesnt have dlss and rt

[nova marlin]

Even with this market

[tender mulch]

Raster wise it should fall between 3060 and 3060TI

Just none of the other features

[nova marlin]

True

Well I guess i’ma buy a 1660 super than 🥲

[halcyon plover]

1660s is good for 1080

If you can get it for around 300 its good

[nova marlin]

Yeah but I can’t find a decent price

[halcyon plover]

Maybe a prebuilt if you dont have other parts

[nova marlin]

I already have a pc, but it’s garbage so i need to upgradr

[halcyon plover]

Oh ok

[devout flax]

I have an unopened evga xc 3060 12gb what should how much should i ask before it becomes scalping

[nova marlin]

i5-4460
Rx 480

[nova marlin]

How much did you pay for it

[devout flax]

650

[nova marlin]

Meh

I dunno

3060 is a good card, but pricewise it’s bad so idk man

[halcyon plover]

I mean just sell for what you can get tbh

[nova marlin]

Exactly

Do u wanna make profit

[halcyon plover]

It doesnt matter if you scalp it or not

[nova marlin]

Or was it just a stupid buy

[devout flax]

thanks i just ordered a ftw 3080ti so im getting rid of my other two cards

[halcyon plover]

You can probably get 800

[nova marlin]

Ahh than it’s fine, just ask 700-800 if your lucky

[devout flax]

800 is alot for that card

[rich wraith]

How the heck are you getting these

[nova marlin]

People will buy it believe me

Some people think that 30 series card is the best of the best. However they don’t know that 20 series cards can still outperform 30 series

So they will pay much more

[devout flax]

i got the 3070 from the newegg bundles before they went to the shuffle in dec then i got the 3060 from a person i know and im elite member evga and got into the que fdor the 80ti at 730 just got my email today and ordered

[rich wraith]

Wow

[nova marlin]

Damn

That’s some good deals you got there

650-800 try in between there

[devout flax]

if you go regester to get elite statues youll have a better chance at the 70ti when the release you will get 24hr early que access

[nova marlin]

Yeah I don’t have money for those cards XD but thanks.

[devout flax]

can i post the link for the elite program for evga

[nova marlin]

I don’t think you allowed to

[devout flax]

ok just google search it if anyone is interested in a better chance to get a gpu

just trying to help

[halcyon plover]

3070ti on evga will probably be around 700$

[tender mulch]

You can post the link

But only Elite members can see it

[nova marlin]

That’s still too much for me xd

[halcyon plover]

Oh ok

[nova marlin]

I just want to game xd I don’t need a 3090 for apex 😂😂

[tender mulch]

Nothing wrong with posting the EVGA elite program

[halcyon plover]

You posted the 1080ti for like 800 but i guess there is taxes and shipping

[devout flax]

its the refereal link to sign up for the elite program

https://www.evga.com/member/elite/?referralid=JU49MI24FKIAKQBW0UHT

vintage i ordered my 80ti today

[nova marlin]

How does it work?

I don’t understand the queu

Idk how to spell it

Qeue

[tender mulch]

queue

odd word

[devout flax]

when you click on notify me button you fill in your information and go on a list to get a card no money involved so when the new 70ti get released and if your elite you get 24hr access to the notify me before anyone else

[solemn panther]

😩

[rustic pulsar]

Can mining damage the GPU (if i dont oc)

[tender mulch]

Only if it gets hot

[rustic pulsar]

But if I limit the temp to like 80 it'll be fin right?

[tender mulch]

Ideally you want to tune it

Power limit it or V/F curve, underclock the core and OC the mem

[halcyon plover]

80c is not good for mining

Depends on the card if its a 1060 then 60c is probably fine. If its a 3070 50c is probably fine 3080 and above you can see memory temp so make sure it is under 100c

[heady turtle]

Mining oc is good in every, less heat less energy, so more profit

Less heat=good no risk of mem overheating

[rustic pulsar]

its for a 2060

[halcyon plover]

Well you cant see memory temps i wouldnt want it to go over 60 just keep fans on 70%

[heady turtle]

Also more mh/s

[halcyon plover]

Yeah oc the memory and limit the power

[heady turtle]

And turn the core down a bit too until you start loosing mhs

[halcyon plover]

^

[mellow glen]

Do we know if 3070ti is gonna be in store only for Best Buy again?

[livid idol]

We can assume as much but no official word I know of

[winged pendant]

So is a 3070ti just gonna be a 3080? Kinda silly

[dreamy dragon]

nals#3582 has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

[green harness]

No. There's a substantially larger performance gap between the 70 and 80 than the 80 and 90, and the specs of the 3070Ti and 3080 differ a fair bit

[fossil talon]

3070ti is not close to 3080

in fact its only 7%ish faster than 3070

3080ti performs similar to a 3090 but with half the vram

[upbeat holly]

is there Best Buy walk ins for 3080’s

[drowsy kiln]

Done in drops online, there will be walkins for 3070-Tis on the 10th but your going to have to get there on the 9th and camp out.

[upbeat holly]

What about 3080’s I need onna dose

[drowsy kiln]

Yes, 3080s are done in drops online

The only in-person for the current moment will be the 3070-Tis on the 10th, at least that I've heard of

[upbeat holly]

Oh kk

[livid idol]

3080 ti and (presumably) 3070 ti are in person for launch day, but besides that only online

[verbal cedar]

do you think if I show up to a bestbuy carrying a 3070 ti drop at like 3:00 on the 9th I'll be early enough?

[brave violet]

hi all. Anyone gotten a email from Newegg about the shuffle today?

[verbal cedar]

do you think if I show up to a bestbuy carrying a 3070 ti drop at like 3:00 on the 9th I'll be early enough?

[verbal cedar]

yeah awhile ago

[brave violet]

I haven't gotten mine

[verbal cedar]

7 hours ago I got mine

[brave violet]

I got into the shuffle right when it started

ok, I guess I have two hours and 15 minutes to find out

[verbal cedar]

wait were yo talking about the announcement of it happening or if you got picked

cause idk if I have been picked haven't gotten that email

[brave violet]

same here. Been waiting. So not sure if anyone gotten pick yet or what>

[rain ether]

When I won the shuffle on the 3rd I got the text/email at 1803 CST

[verbal cedar]

I mean odds are neither of us got picked

[verbal cedar]

what did you win?

[brave violet]

so around 403PST then

will see

[rain ether]

EVGA 3080ti FTW3

[brave violet]

niceeeeeeeeeeeeeee

[verbal cedar]

nice

[brave violet]

let me take a shower and get ready for work

[verbal cedar]

what are you putting it with?

[rain ether]

I also only have until 2100 CST to finish my purchase

HAD*

[rain ether]

i9-10900k, 64g 3600ram

[verbal cedar]

64g what do you do?

[rain ether]

Play games ... yeah I know.. 64g is over over kill lol

[verbal cedar]

sooo overkill lol

what did you have pre 3080 ti?

[rain ether]

EVGA 2070super

[tender mulch]

Nope, not here thx

[verbal cedar]

oh sorry

[rain ether]

Not selling !!! I'm an APE I'm giving it to my friend so he can game better 🙂

[verbal cedar]

APE?

[rain ether]

It's a meme about not selling a certain gamer stock lol

[astral mist]

Man I'm still on a 3080 waitlist

[last hatch]

aren't we all LOL

[astral mist]

I put my 3060ti and 3080 on backorder on the same day. 3060 came 2 weeks later. It's been 4 months.

I wanna cry

[solemn panther]

Yep its a real pain in the neck to wait for products

[brave violet]

Alright, best of luck to everyone. I haven't gotten an Email yet.

[rustic pulsar]

How are the Eagle GPUs?

[heady turtle]

Better than dells

[last hatch]

Yeah, I didn't enter this one. Probably should have tried

[tame birch]

anyone know the secret to actually getting selected in a shuffle? is it just that it's like winning the lottery at this point?

[last hatch]

Yup, luck o' the draw

[young estuary]

you guys think $900 is way too overkill for 3060?

[tender mulch]

Heck yes it is

[green harness]

Yes

[young estuary]

i understand that it is but i’m really not looking forward to waiting a year for prices to drop

[tender mulch]

Double MSRP.....at least get a 3060TI

3060 is pretty weak, 3060TI is 30% faster

[drowsy kiln]

At $900 honestly even a 1070-Ti for $500 or less would be such a better buy. Yes it's older architecture but pretty similar performance other than ray-tracing of course.

[lime basin]

what do we feel like is a fair price to sell a lightly used 6Gb 1060 for? I don't want to gouge anyone but I also can't ignore the market rn

[drowsy kiln]

They usually go for $300-350, so anything below that and your cutting someone a decent deal in this market.

[lime basin]

alright I as gonna list my power supply and the card for $350 together so I guess that is fair

thank you

[drowsy kiln]

My peasure, used market pricing is definitely something I've gotten to know well so happy to share info.

[lime basin]

I figured someone here would know much better than I, cause I saw them from anywhere from $300-900 online

you could get a 3070 new for 900 lmao

[brave violet]

I got my email. I wasn't selected =[

[drowsy kiln]

Well feels bad for whoever possibly paid $900 for one

[lime basin]

rip

[lime basin]

I mean I saw that on Ebay I think, so maybe just a delusional seller

[drowsy kiln]

Ah, yea on eBay you can sort by sold listings as well btw helps with averaging out costs of parts.

[lime basin]

good to know, I'll have to make sure I filter out the stupid selling prices

[drowsy kiln]

Yea, it's usually safe to average about the recent 10 or so sold listings

[lone pond]

How good is a Radeon rx580 8gb or a gigabyte 1660 compare to a MSI 780ti? Which would be worth it. Radeon for $200 or 1660 for $300-400

[drowsy kiln]

Don't know where your getting an RX 580 8gb for $200... but thats a good deal market value currently is around $500

But between 580 and 1660 around 10% performance depending on games, I'd go 580 due to price difference but if your planing on streaming the 1660 would be a better option due to Nvenc

[lone pond]

Ok

Also, FB marketplace for local pickup

@drowsy kiln

Only issue is a broken fan blade

[drowsy kiln]

Honestly think I saw that listing the other day then remember some 500 series for around $200 with broken fan blade. But you can buy new fans for like $15 on eBay

[lone pond]

A SINGLE fan blade

Yeah

[drowsy kiln]

Yea. Even $215 total for an RX 580 8gb isn't bad at all

Paid $115 for mine back in 19' and due to shortages a $100 price jump isn't bad at all

[naive meteor]

One message removed from a suspended account.

[lone pond]

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B08LQNHG4D/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_glt_fabc_03NP0NP1GJADQ3EZ17KV?_encoding=UTF8&psc=1
Found this

[drowsy kiln]

What? An RX 580 8gb is a GPU?

[lone pond]

Ummm yeahhh?

[drowsy kiln]

Why say #cpus-mobo-and-memory?

[lone pond]

?

Idk

[vital oriole]

asiahorse

[drowsy kiln]

yea no clue either ¯_(ツ)_/¯

[vital oriole]

that brand sounds like nightmare

[lone pond]

Lol

Replacement fans

[drowsy kiln]

Not for an RX 580

The fans are no where near 120mm

[vital oriole]

They wouldn't even fit there anyway

[lone pond]

Oh...

[vital oriole]

If you wanna replace the fans

Get ones off your part number off that fan

It's the only ones that fits

[lone pond]

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07YV3Q7C6/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_glt_fabc_4626RTNM3VMFHTMAAX19

There

[vital oriole]

You can't slap case fans into it

[lone pond]

Would look at Newegg, but photos won't load

[drowsy kiln]

Something like this, while this is for an ASUS RX 580 this is what you need - https://www.ebay.com/itm/304004702858?hash=item46c817a28a:g:uqEAAOSwBfNgpyt~

[vital oriole]

Yep

You need something like that

[lone pond]

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B08L4YQJG3/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_glt_fabc_73MW3SAJTTKKEMDC7940?_encoding=UTF8&psc=1
This is interesting, but expensive

Not sure if it's work either

Probably gonna go thru the reviews

[drowsy kiln]

Your better off just getting the fans for your card on eBay or something

They run around $15

[lone pond]

Yeah

It looks like an msi

[drowsy kiln]

Oh no thats ASUS

[lone pond]

Really?

Ok

Well I asked anyways

[drowsy kiln]

Mhm, not the stock fans the card usually comes with but thats definitly an ASUS shroud

[lone pond]

Yeah, the missing stickers don't help either

Also, those fan blades look upside down

On the one I posted

[drowsy kiln]

Nah, just not stock fans. They are still in a pull config

A lot less blades than original had

[lone pond]

You sure they're the right way?

[drowsy kiln]

They are definilty pulling air into the card which would be correct

[lone pond]

It's a power color

[drowsy kiln]

Totally forgot about PowerColor. But yea thats it, replacement fans here - https://www.ebay.com/itm/174713187993?hash=item28adb7ae99:g:348AAOSwOYZgZE3H

[lone pond]

How much better performance will I get vs my 780ti?

Confirmed Power color Red Dragon

I have the msi twin frozr 780ti

[drowsy kiln]

Give or take 20% in any 3DMark benchmark from what I'm seeing; similar in Passmark. Main difference spec to spec would be the 8gb vs 3gb of VRAM

[lone pond]

Ok

[drowsy kiln]

But anything older than GTX 900 series is loosing driver support soon, just means your not going to get any updated drivers once they drop support later this summer iirc.

[lone pond]

Huh according to userbenchmark.com, the 780ti is better than the 580

[drowsy kiln]

Yea UB is generally incorrect

[lone pond]

Ahh

[drowsy kiln]

It's the "go to" cause it's the first thing that shows up. But in a lot of cases even personal testing it's a good bit off. But I had an RX 580 and felt no need to upgrade earlier this year.

Only upgraded to a 1070-Ti cause ended up getting it as a "free" upgrade. Ended up buying a system with it in it for $600 and just sold it again for $600 with my 580 8gb.

[lone pond]

Ok I went to gpucheck.com and it's showing the 580 as better

https://www.gpucheck.com/en-usd/compare/amd-radeon-rx-580-vs-nvidia-geforce-gtx-780-ti/amd-ryzen-7-3700x-vs-amd-ryzen-7-3700x/ultra/ultra/powercolor-red-dragon-rx-580-oc-8-gb-vs-gigabyte-gtx-780-ti

the difference is more apparent at medium quality vs ultra

[lone pond]

And I'll be at 1080p anyways so...

[slim vessel]

still no email from newegg

[livid idol]

Reject mails are already going out for a few hours now, you weren't selected sorry

[slim vessel]

to quote adam savage, "I reject your reality and substitute my own."

[dry pecan]

I got mine about 3 hours ago and my heart sunk just a little bit lower 😆

[weak cape]

580 8GB is definitely going to be better than a 780ti

8GB of VRAM gets you a lot more texture quality room

Compared to 3

[livid idol]

580 is going to be between a 970 and 980

[weak cape]

580 8GB will perform just as well as 1660 in some cases too

[livid idol]

At higher resolutions maybe

[weak cape]

Probably closer to 1650 though

Especially in scenarios where those textures really make the VRAM capacity count

[livid idol]

Maybe a 1650 Super to a 1660

[weak cape]

Yeah

[lone pond]

Playing mostly borderlands, Skyrim, Warframe, and Minecraft

[livid idol]

Skyrim is 60fps locked anyway

[weak cape]

Minecraft is gonna be CPU intensive as all hell

But yeah for borderlands and warframe 100% 580

Over 780ti*

When you get to the 1650s-1660 point, it could depend

[lone pond]

3700XT

[weak cape]

Yeah 3700xt will do well

[livid idol]

Good enough

[weak cape]

Well low settings for minecraft will run on anything

But you could prob run max @ 12-16 chunks

580 vs 780ti wouldn’t matter all that much I’d imagine

(In minecraft)

[lone pond]

I also do Modpacks so...

[weak cape]

Modpacks will typically include something like optifine

So usually you just need more RAM for modpacks and you’ll get better perf

[lone pond]

Tekkit Legends and Hexxit for the most part

[weak cape]

Because Java edition is actual doo doo optimization

(Hopefully will be better in 1.18!!!)

90fps 64 chunks max settings w shaders

[dry pecan]

And here I am happy with 30fps in Minecraft, jeez...

[livid idol]

As long as there's not too many frame drops 30 is totally playable

20 is generally considered the playable minimum

[dry pecan]

It's a good steady 30. If I turn off the frame limit it hovers between like... 45-50 iirc

But it is running on only a GTX870M behind a 4th gen i7 after all.

[livid idol]

If it works it works

[dry pecan]

I'm curious how well it'll work on my new build. It doesn't have a GPU yet tho.

[lone pond]

I could use that 870M lol

My laptop has dual 670M

[weak cape]

Expect like 45-60 FPS when 1.18 comes out

[limber drift]

Is there a risk if I buy a 2060 from China or Hong Kong ?

[weak cape]

Yeahhh more than likely

If it’s too good to be true

[limber drift]

Ok ty

[livid idol]

Possible that A: it'll never arrive or B: it's a fake card, since China has very different regulations on "imitation" products

[weak cape]

Mhm

[lone pond]

What’s best card I can get for under $1000 (I’m not sniping or waiting in line for them)
I have a micro center near me

[weak cape]

Nothing 30 series probably lol

[lone pond]

No

[weak cape]

But uh

[lone pond]

I was told a 6700xt may be best

[weak cape]

6700xt goes for 1000$ yeah

[lone pond]

2080 go for around there aswell if I get a good price on one but looking for other opinions

[weak cape]

Sometimes 900$

[lone pond]

Yea he said I can get one at micro center for $900 possibly

[weak cape]

Honestly I’d just not pay the increased prices and if you need a gpu get a good APU temporarily

but if it’s needed that bad, 6700xt might be your best bet

[jaunty mango]

that is if you can get one is stock lol

[weak cape]

At 1,000$?

That’s not a problem

[lone pond]

U can go on eBay and get them for 1000

[jaunty mango]

yea

[lone pond]

$900 is somewhat rare

[weak cape]

Amazon drops 6700xts for 1000 every hour lol

[jaunty mango]

i just have heard that the 6000 series was kinda hard to get

[weak cape]

Not at increased prices

[jaunty mango]

yea

[weak cape]

1000$ for a 479$ card? Sounds like a good deal to me

[lone pond]

Pog

[jaunty mango]

i mean the temp gt710 was $100

[weak cape]

Yeah no ima hunt for my 3080 just like I did my 5900x

[lone pond]

Well I’m not waiting a year nor am I gonna drive an hour to the nearest micro center and show up a hour early every day

Lmao

I have a 580 4gb atm

So could just stick with it

[weak cape]

11th gen intel APU will perform better lol

[jaunty mango]

yea

[lone pond]

How’s i9 10850k apu

Out of curiosity

[jaunty mango]

well i mostly bought it to test the mother board for if that was faulty or not

[lone pond]

Idk anything about apus

[weak cape]

No idea cause I haven’t ever had the need to look into intel’s APUs too far

But it’s prob UHD650?

[lone pond]

I think so

Was just wondering if it was good, my 4gb 580 will obviously do better though

[weak cape]

4gb 580 does fine yea

I have 8GB 580

[lone pond]

Those sell for a lot

$400 used

[weak cape]

I’ve even seen 600

[lone pond]

U can mine btc with them so

People love them

[weak cape]

Yeah I’ll be able to sell this thing and get a large chunk of the cost of a new 3080 covered rather quickly

[fossil talon]

No one really mines BTC on gpus, more so ETH. ASICS for BTC

[lone pond]

Yes

But if it can mine btc

It can mine eth

Already

Someone look in #building-and-recc-chat and give me an estimate

[livid idol]

Once that 5700G APU hits the market it's going to be the top seller for people that don't have a dedicated GPU

[fossil talon]

Yea its possible but not as efficient nor as profitable as ETH mining

Oh for sure

[weak cape]

AMD APUs good

[fossil talon]

The mobile 5000s series are insanely powerful

And the G models

[livid idol]

There's a couple ASICs for Eth but they're not as good ROI since they have no resale value

[fossil talon]

Like I might upgrade my sister's PC which is running a 1050 to a 5700G

[lone pond]

Ik I was just using btc as an example since it takes 8gb

[weak cape]

But sad that the 5000Gs are gonna be running on VEGA

still

Probably gonna be pretty good

[livid idol]

Vega still beats the crap out of Intel's iGPU

[fossil talon]

^^^

[weak cape]

Yeah

[livid idol]

You can do GTA V on 1080p with a 4800U

[weak cape]

Yeah fr, AMD APUs are just hard to beat

[fossil talon]

Yep

[weak cape]

Been doing APUs well for awhile now so

Looks like they’ll continue said trend

[fossil talon]

Ok, getting an EK 360 AIO then the 5900x (ordered confirmed)

I give up on 5950x

[weak cape]

I got a Corsair 360mm AIO to match the Corsair fans I have lol

Still I’ll water block the entire system later on anyways

[fossil talon]

Lol nice

Gotta see that custom loop

Especially with the 5900x/3080 combo

[weak cape]

Yeah I have the O11D XL so I’ll hopefully have a nice loop by the end of summer

EK sells a distro plate for the front of the case too

[fossil talon]

Ooh, sweet build

[livid idol]

I'm eyeing the 5000d for my custom loop case

[fossil talon]

Nice^

[weak cape]

Yeah, but the distro plate will look seriously cool, I’ll need to get a bigger desk in the fall so I can have my PC on my desk to the left of me

[fossil talon]

I already have a build, and building a secondary. Don't have the time nor money for water loops

[weak cape]

Less dust and I actually get to see the internals

Yeah I only have my main build but I really want to go with a loop for it so that’ll be my summer project

albeit hunting for the 3080 alone will take more time than anything else by a long shot

If I get the FE the water block will look super cool for it but it’ll be super small

[fossil talon]

Oh for sure lol

Will look weird inside an 011

[slim vessel]

i might see if i can just get a r7-5700g and not worry about a gpu for now

[weak cape]

Mhm

[weak cape]

Yeah AMD will probably be stockpiling them so

[fossil talon]

3080 stock is looking a bit better compared to January, hopefully you can get one soon'

[weak cape]

It may not be insanely difficult to get them on release

[fossil talon]

I have a 3080 EVGA XC3 Ultra coming next Monday

[fossil talon]

At release is always easier

[weak cape]

3070ti is this Thursday

[fossil talon]

I was there on both the 3070/3060ti release

[weak cape]

Hopefully 3080s will drop with them

[fossil talon]

Yep, so potentially another drop

[weak cape]

That’ll be my first 3080 drop more than likely

I started entering shuffles last week