graphics-cards

[night vault]

I ordered it online and picked it up I think

[brisk flame]

pretty much, dont know if its really gonna be called that tho

there are definetly cheaper ampere cards on their way

[night vault]

Idek what to do

Could it be my psu

[remote cargo]

idc about cheap tho

[brisk flame]

1760 ti kek

[night vault]

I have a 700w thermaltake smart

[remote cargo]

Not that much

[night vault]

Whatever Best Buy had at the time

I figured 700watts is enough for 5700xt and 3600

Idk it had amazing reviews so that’s why I got it

And the fact it was one of my only choices

[viral elbow]

are the 5700xt crashes issue still a thing?

[night vault]

My uncle runs his 1080ti off of an old antec psu just fine

[spice prawn]

@remote cargo re: 3060Ti: there is box art for one model floating around.

[night vault]

So Idk if it’s my psu

@viral elbow crashes I don’t experience much with mine

[viral elbow]

i see

[brisk flame]

no bad words

[night vault]

Except DX12 games but I just updated my drivers I’ll see if it still is like that

[brisk flame]

no bad words

[vagrant phoenix]

It's very salty in here

[brisk flame]

[spice prawn]

@vernal roost how about you back up the claims with at least "something" ?

[remote cargo]

Dehydrated ocean

[vagrant phoenix]

You brought it back up!

[spice prawn]

i can back up my experience with the 2+ decades i have been doing this.

and i can point to things like the tier list and Guru

you speak based on how many systems?

[brisk flame]

you speak your "experience" and we show you facts with evidence

[night vault]

Imo I don’t trust any of those and I just use them as guides

[vagrant phoenix]

Reality is over half of anomalous hardware issues and almost all catastrophic failures are related to subpar PSUs.

[remote cargo]

my parents ground me lol

jk

[spice prawn]

there is no need to be grounded IF your workspace is actually sane

no

[brisk flame]

[spice prawn]

i voice my opinion that you are recommending things that put other users builds at risk

and that is NOT okay

[remote cargo]

grounding is like anti static right?

[opaque stratus]

Do you even work with pc's, on only tell us what you little youtubers tell you?

[spice prawn]

@vernal roost read again please :)

[viral elbow]

unless you're living in a very humid area, then grounding yourself periodically is recommended

[brisk flame]

@remote cargo grounding is a way to remove any static charge that is built up on your body

[remote cargo]

Sassy thx

[ripe ivy]

Just touch your metal case, no problem

[brisk flame]

when you touch components and you have a large static charge built up, the discharge can damage components

[lone pond]

shouldn't this be in #cases-psu-and-cooling

or a different chat

[remote cargo]

Imma comb my hair right before building great idea

[brisk flame]

of course, you have to manage to build up such a static charge in the first place

[vagrant phoenix]

Such a strange hill to choose to die on lol

[remote cargo]

SmartMan I think so

[spice prawn]

@vernal roost go back, scroll down, then read. The sources are linked

[vagrant phoenix]

No one:
Fangs: Cheap PSUs are perfectly fine!

[remote cargo]

what even is the “right” price for a psu

[vagrant phoenix]

Who knows right now? They're inflated as heck.

By cheap, I mean subpar components.

[night vault]

I think I might’ve found my issue @brisk flame

Im on 4 months old drivers

[remote cargo]

rn I can get a 750 w from like 100$ to like 180$

[brisk flame]

@night vault rip

[ripe ivy]

That's not super unreasonable

[night vault]

It said I was up to date but then I restarted it and it’s like nop

This is my psu

https://www.amazon.com/Thermaltake-Certified-Continuous-Active-PS-SPD-0700NPCWUS-W/dp/B014W3EAX8

[brisk flame]

what even is the “right” price for a psu
@remote cargo the cheapest psu i would ever recommend goes for like 60 usd, and the most expensive for most gaming pcs is like ~180

[remote cargo]

so choosing a psu around 115 or even 130 seems okay for me

[ripe ivy]

I got a fully modular 80+ gold power supply for $100 last year

[remote cargo]

Wow

[brisk flame]

@vernal roost i dont build while rubbing my feet on carpet :P

[night vault]

I do not see very many bad reviews, maybe 5 people say it make their pc mess up so I got it

It’s like 70$ for 700w I’m not consoling

Complaining

[spice prawn]

@vernal roost go back, read what i said about grounding. :)

[vagrant phoenix]

You can get a 750w EVGA gold for $100 directly from their site right now

[remote cargo]

I feel like I should wait till next week when Black Friday is in full swing

[vagrant phoenix]

$108 sorry

[night vault]

Should I sell my thermal take smart for a different psu that is better?

Or should it do me fine

[spice prawn]

you are missing the point lad :)

[ripe ivy]

Bitfenix Whisper 750w, alleged A Tier on that tier list actually. I've known of that list too actually, so when I saw that for a good deal I jumped at it

[remote cargo]

unless it’s acting up I don’t see why you would

[brisk flame]

Naed is it cool if i just link the spreadsheet or not yet

[spice prawn]

want to field this one @brisk flame ? i am laughing too hard

[brisk flame]

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1eL0893Ramlwk6E3s3uSvH1_juom7SMG5SCNzP2Uov8w/edit#gid=1035809825

sources

to be fair if you read up like naed said you would find it

[vagrant phoenix]

It was in the original link posted 25 minutes ago

https://tenor.com/view/troll-trolls-ewww-i-smell-trolls-spray-gif-15460691

[lone pond]

I'm assuming no one got a chance to purchase any 6000 series GPU as of now

[pale knot]

Is the 6800 worth the 80 dollars more over the 3070?

[brisk flame]

i dont think so

[remote cargo]

not rly

[pale knot]

That is what I thought

[brisk flame]

but, you arent really gonna get your hands on a 3070

so

[remote cargo]

it depends

[ripe ivy]

Probably depends

[remote cargo]

If ur gonna stream and game then no, but if you want to just competitive game, then maybe

[brisk flame]

if you are in need of RT cores, tensor cores, a ton of vram bandwidth, NVENC, DLSS, or CUDA, then 3070 all the way

[remote cargo]

and nvidia broadcast

[brisk flame]

otherwise, 6800 just games

pretty well for the price

[remote cargo]

after like 5 or so years maybe

[ripe ivy]

I don't want kings of anything

[night vault]

I want two companies battling it out

[ripe ivy]

These Kings are tyrants

[spice prawn]

the big question would be: How successful do you (the buyer) think AMD will be with their DLSS-like project and their RT project

[night vault]

Everyone benefits

[pale knot]

My thought is that if the 6800 aib cards cost like some of the aib 3070s than should I just go like 6800xt

[ripe ivy]

Not always, but yeah I guess for a while

[spice prawn]

@night vault 3 would be better.

[remote cargo]

nvidia has a head start

[night vault]

Amd has pulled amazing performance out of their butt on cpu and gpu

[hoary sage]

The 3070 is not as scare as it seems

[night vault]

I’m confident in their ability to create a few programs

Or features

Or however you would articulate it

[remote cargo]

307O was in stock yesterday on Amazon for 1000

[spice prawn]

@remote cargo on DLSS and RT implementation? yes. Amd has the console dev support thou

[remote cargo]

Tru

[spice prawn]

@night vault its not a "simple" problem to solves

its a VERY complex one to solve

[night vault]

I never said it was

[spice prawn]

not saying you did mate :)

[ripe ivy]

It's an uphill battle, but they're clearly up for the challenge

[night vault]

But if they can, in one year, become competitive and even better in cpu and gpu I’m not worried about it

[spice prawn]

just a lot of people underestimate how much work nvidia has done on their DLSS

[jolly sandal]

2080 super for 450 USD

[night vault]

That is why I went from Nvidia and intel to amd and amd

[jolly sandal]

Should I cop?

[remote cargo]

amd has the ability to go full head on against nvidia, they just need more time

[night vault]

I would say yes

But it’s up to you

If you want to wait

[thick skiff]

idk anything about pcs but would drivers improve rt performance on the 6800

[night vault]

Yes and no

[thick skiff]

bc those benchmarks were pretty poor

[spice prawn]

the question is more on the strictly software side now @remote cargo

[lone pond]

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1eL0893Ramlwk6E3s3uSvH1_juom7SMG5SCNzP2Uov8w/edit#gid=1035809825
@brisk flame how long did this take

[remote cargo]

Yeah

[night vault]

They can improve the performance but only as far as the cores allow

[jolly sandal]

It does what I need it to do

[spice prawn]

the "best" thing that could happen imo, is that intel comes in from the side and drops a GPU that beats the living heck out of both amd and nvidia

[brisk flame]

im in class rn, i just finished giving a presentation lol

[ripe ivy]

As far as their RT acceleration with maturity it can only improve from here

[pale knot]

atm have there been any driver problems yet with the 6000 series gpu even though we probably don't know yet because of limited stock

[ripe ivy]

How much we're yet to see

[remote cargo]

the "best" thing that could happen imo, is that intel comes in from the side and drops a GPU that beats the living heck out of both amd and nvidia
@spice prawn that would honestly be hilarious

[night vault]

Yes it was a their first year to implement it

[brisk flame]

@lone pond thats not mine, its maintained by a bunch of people much smarter than me

[spice prawn]

@vernal roost heat and transistor density

[night vault]

Nvidia Rt performance was laughable 2000 series compared to now

[vagrant phoenix]

And latency

[lone pond]

oh ok

it must have taken a long time

[night vault]

So they just need time

Hopefully with new drivers I can play civ dx12

[spice prawn]

@night vault re: RT on Turing was laughable: not really.

its not that simple @vernal roost

[vagrant phoenix]

Latency would go through the roof

[spice prawn]

it actually is

[vagrant phoenix]

You talking about me?

[uneven portal]

*grabs popcorn

[spice prawn]

the latency from transistor A to transistor B is something that can be handled by using more power

which causes more power use

which would negate the "advantage" of more physical space

[brisk flame]

What I'm asking is why don't they just expand the cpu size to something that is 4x
@vernal roost the larger the physical die, the harder it is to cool, the higher the odds of manufacturing errors in the die, resulting in much lower yields, and voltage regulation becomes more difficult as the size of the die increases

[spice prawn]

every single transistor talk done in the last 15 years

[humble hemlock]

my idiot brain tells me it has something to do with too much heat generation? what do i know

[brisk flame]

@brisk flame Yes but cpu transistors are already at the point where they can't get much smaller
@vernal roost thats why amd is working building its cpus by using chiplets

or, multiple smaller dies stitched together

[spice prawn]

because there is no fixed answer. Its a field of research that is covered in so many NDA that its not remotely fun.

[vagrant phoenix]

Man there is something about this channel today. First the 5800xt gpu guy, now Fangs...wtf. I’m going to sit by the fire and have a bourbon. ttyl

[spice prawn]

which run up against the reticle limit @brisk flame

look at something like the Fury/FuryX for their interposer problem @brisk flame

[brisk flame]

had to google what the reticle limit was, didnt know thats what it was called

[burnt parcel]

Anyone hear anything from bestbuy?

[brisk flame]

Sassyfish actually provided an answer
@vernal roost what was your question?

[ripe ivy]

Yeah apparently they don't know

[brisk flame]

oh, right

then what are you asking Naed?

[ripe ivy]

Don't even worry about it at this point, check next week or whenever AIBs start launching

[brisk flame]

eh

tbf he knows more than me

[lone pond]

this is now cpu talk #cpus-mobo-and-memory guys

[frozen seal]

What is going on...

[brisk flame]

the more you know, the harder it is to give a direct answer, im sure theres a few things in what ive said that makes naed shake his head lol

[spice prawn]

yes

[brisk flame]

im used to it :D

[frozen seal]

yes

No u

Well

Smaller as in how small

[spice prawn]

that line was also said when we hit 25nm

[frozen seal]

Tsmc is already looking into materials other than silicon for smaller than 3nm

[spice prawn]

and when we hit 130nm

etc etc

[frozen seal]

And there’s also quantum computing which is starting to happen

[brisk flame]

quantum computing doesnt replace the kind of things that personal computers do tho

[frozen seal]

Which is exponential instead of linear when in comes to computing power-processing units

Yea, it’s a completely different kind of thing

[brisk flame]

so its cool (pun intended) but we still have to deal with silicon or something else other than silicon

[frozen seal]

I mean, there’s other semiconductors which might not have the same issues as silicon with quantum tunneling

It’d be a hell of a lot more expensive most likely

[spice prawn]

the next hurdle is going to be getting a variant of chiplets to work on a GPU

[brisk flame]

who can?

whats "It"

quantum computing doesnt replace the kind of things that personal computers do tho
@brisk flame ^ this?

[frozen seal]

I don’t think they can...

[brisk flame]

they dont

quantum computers dont run ms word

i want my laptop to make word document and excel spreadsheet tho

[frozen seal]

Maybe with some sort of fancy future stuff, we could turn the processing power generated by quantum computers into standard processing power, but not yet

[brisk flame]

using a quantum computer for that will never make sense

ever

[spice prawn]

technically, there is nothing that prevents a quantum computer from running something like a word processor. Will it make logical sense to do so in the remotely near future? no.

[brisk flame]

i understand you may be thinking 100 years in the future, but you clearly dont understand the kinds of things that a quantum computer does

but my laptop doesnt need to do more

[modern rampart]

Has anyone got a 30 series card and got their geforce now code?

[humble hemlock]

so how about those gpus that were supposed to launch today, whats up with that? am i right guys...

[brisk flame]

oh?

[frozen seal]

Arent quantum computers moreso just large number crunchers?

[modern rampart]

I just got a 3070 but theres no geforce now code inside the box do i need to boot up a pc with the 3070 installed to get it?

[frozen seal]

Do you actually know how they work?

Doing research? Lmao

[misty shoal]

Best Buy listed some new 3070s as "Coming Soon" but I don't know what time

Anyone have any idea?

[eternal locust]

They already had that for a week

[uneven portal]

Yes, soon

[eternal locust]

maybe more

[frozen seal]

New as in brand new unreleased partner cards?

[misty shoal]

Yes

[frozen seal]

Or just ones that are out of stock

[misty shoal]

Well at least for best buy

[frozen seal]

Oh

[eternal locust]

i wouldn't put too much hope on that

[misty shoal]

ones that werent there before

they just added them to their website

[eternal locust]

oh yeah just saw

they added two more

interesting

they in the 600s

huhhhh

[misty shoal]

I just don't know what time

[eternal locust]

bro why are they so much

[misty shoal]

they added MSI Ventus 3X for 560 and Asus Tuf for 560

[eternal locust]

nah those were already there for me, the ones in the 600s are new to me

[misty shoal]

Those are new for me

I just wish I knew what time they would go on sale

[steel smelt]

SO what is everyone thinking after all the reviews? Looks like the 6000 series is competitive in all ways but raytracing.

[tulip sapphire]

And software.

[steel smelt]

Yeah, and software lol

[tulip sapphire]

Software is still AMD's major weak point, which is why I took the risk and bought a 3080 when I could.

[spice prawn]

for everyone, it would be good IF they could get that part of things sorted going forward

[deft lake]

hi everyone can for me review this card https://www.newegg.com/gigabyte-radeon-rx-5700-xt-gv-r57xtaorus-8gd-rev-2-0/p/N82E16814932333

[steel smelt]

Picked up a 6800 this morning, thanks Amazon, but might try and hold out till there is a 3070 super or something along those lines.

[tulip sapphire]

Yeah, I went back and forth between the AMD and Nvidia cards for awhile, since the AMD's had more VRAM and that was really attractive, but I know they're software is just... not quite there yet. No answer to RTX Voice/Broadcast, no released answer to DLSS, much worse video encoding.

It does games well enough, but everything else is just. not there for me.

It's a start, and am really happy to see AMD back on better footing

But it's just not enough this time for me. Maybe by the 7 series they'll have closed the gap.

[spice prawn]

it wont hurt the broader community to have more competition :)

[tulip sapphire]

But that's a lot of features to loose for "about as good" performance right now.

[spice prawn]

agreed

[steel smelt]

Well AMD should have their answer to DLSS soon, I think along side the launch of the 6900.

[shut herald]

3070 or 2060

I'm on a budget

[spice prawn]

@steel smelt that seems VERY optimistic

[tulip sapphire]

Well I know it's coming, but we've not seen it in the wild yet at all. Nvidia has a lot of experience already in the AI improvement sector, so I'm a little worried that AMD's first crack at it will be a little janky, like how they do have raytrace support now, but it's just not as good since it's only first outing.

[spice prawn]

Q1-Q2 is imo a more realistic guess about that

[steel smelt]

I agree, I'm just going off what AMD said.

[tulip sapphire]

I think AMD did what they needed to do this time, which was put actual pressure on Nvidia. The went from being a non-option to a real option depending on use case, and the AMD diehards who refuse to buy Nvidia will actually get a good card the first time in years so that goods. Now that they've closed the hardware gap, hopefully they'll start to work on everything else.

[ripe ivy]

Well a good high end card, I would say the 5700 cards were and indeed still are good cards

[tulip sapphire]

Although, small, pointless note. The fact they have a "welcome to the red team" note in with their GPUs is a little weird to me since I was always blue team in Unreal Tournament, so the idea of being on the red team is somewhat offensive to my old gaming sensibilities.

[steel smelt]

Agreed. I gambled on AMD and was able to pick one up. But now I'm thinking to either use it until the next tier of the 3070 is in my pocket and sell the 6800 used, or ditch it now at what I paid for it and just wait.

[spice prawn]

@tulip sapphire the marketing is still bonkers levels of weird. i will happily agree to that

[limpid latch]

So anyone went to microceners and long lines how many cards ended up being there

[tulip sapphire]

Also, while we're on the note about colors. I don't like the red piping on the GPUs

That matches no ones setup unless their setup is red.

[steel smelt]

Yeah, I hate graphics cards have no custom colors on them.

[limpid latch]

Throw a waterblock on it then

[vagrant phoenix]

EVGA found out real fast how much people hate the red lol

[spice prawn]

@steel smelt just wait until the 25th

[viral elbow]

3070 went on newegg for like a minute and i'm still too late for that

[spice prawn]

partner cards ARE coming

[limpid latch]

So noone waited at stores for launch then? I'm just curious actual numbers at stores even canada ones

Partner cards will have same issue

[tulip sapphire]

My 3080 FE is just metal. No colors, it matches anything. But the Radeon's little enforced red theme would clash something awful with my otherwise black/blue cold tone computer.

Someone of reddit said at least one microcenter only had one of the 6900xt s

[vagrant phoenix]

@limpid latch Someone posted a photo of I think it was called "Canadian Computer?" and they had one 6800 and one 6800XT

[spice prawn]

example

[tulip sapphire]

and like 8 6800s

[vagrant phoenix]

I think that's their version of Microcenter

[limpid latch]

The main company that is pushing out alot of gpus is evga, and they only make nvidia

[steel smelt]

The big thing I don't like about the AMD founders cards are no rear exhaust.

[spice prawn]

@limpid latch Sapphire is the equivalent on the AMD side

[limpid latch]

Yea but I'm sure, the main unit core is the issue

[spice prawn]

you mean chip production?

[limpid latch]

Yea

[spice prawn]

could be

as ive said a every launch

give it a week

see what it is like then

[limpid latch]

Gonna be beginning of year I bet

[tulip sapphire]

I assume it will still be veryverybad. Everything this year has been, so not really any reason to expect otherwise.

[limpid latch]

Strange tho samsung did the ram for amd ugh

[tulip sapphire]

If not worse, since miners all think AMD cards are the bestest thing to mine with now.

[limpid latch]

This is true since its alittle less power usage

[ripe ivy]

Is Crypto mining even still viable for most people?

[limpid latch]

Yea

580s

I think prob most used

[ripe ivy]

doesn't power use have to be practically free?

Err not power use, but power cost

[lone pond]

do you think the 3080s will be back in stock by black friday/cyber monday

in canada

i am trying to get one for my build

[eternal locust]

We can only hope but stock will likely still be limited

😦

[limpid latch]

Keep an eye I've seen alot of evga come in stock, asus prob the rarest

Theres bios that help limit power to performance they put on those amd cards

[burnt parcel]

I wonder why bestbuy hasnt released the cards

[limpid latch]

Maybe their warehouse didnt get much ir delayed

Or

[burnt parcel]

Or

[dawn plover]

or

[eternal locust]

Or the shipment caravan got attacked by scalper zombies

and never made it to the bestbuy warehouse

[dawn plover]

or the dudes in the black and modded honda civics with a green underglow prob stole the trucks with the cards

dont know if you'll understand that reference

[eternal locust]

F&F lol

[dawn plover]

hahaha

[spice prawn]

the OST for that one is quite lovely

[deft lake]

evga they have more 2070 super on stock if someone want to buy it

[rose adder]

ew it's 540

it was on sale for $360 during midweek madness

at current price it is not worth

[dawn plover]

dang 360 for a 2070s

i'd snag that

[rose adder]

yep I got one

[dawn plover]

niice

[rose adder]

I'm waiting for a 30 series card with more vram before I buy

I can then sell the 2070 super and probably get most my money back

[dawn plover]

sell it for 400 bucks

[sinful crater]

@rose adder ill buy it for 1k and a foot pic

[dawn plover]

easy 40 bucks earned

[rose adder]

but like

I need a gpu

if I sell it and make $40, I will need to spend that 40 buying a new gpu to actually use lmao

[high tangle]

i just sold a asus 2070s for 550 lol

now im on the struggle bus like veryone else for a 30 series

[viral elbow]

that's close to msrp

[hasty shore]

yes

[high tangle]

it was a good day ebay is the way to go when selling your stuff

[paper depot]

Yo but I got dibs on the next 3080 for msrp

[magic prism]

If he is can we ban him

[high tangle]

i sold a 2070

chill dudes

[magic prism]

Ah

You good

[high tangle]

lol

[magic prism]

No firing line for you

[high tangle]

yay!

[magic prism]

Gulag-free zone

[uneven portal]

I scalp stocks, not commodities

[burnt parcel]

what if bestbuy accidentally put pm on the release

instead of am

apparently thats not the case

[spice prawn]

that is generally not something that can happen. the warehouses would grind to a halt if that happens

[burnt parcel]

They couldn't even make an announcement or anything

what happened man

[boreal isle]

2080s cost $300?

[spice prawn]

you would have to ask them about that @burnt parcel

[burnt parcel]

i tried, they said they dont know

[spice prawn]

but it is not something we would ever get an actual answer for

[misty shoal]

https://www.ebay.com/itm/Nvidia-Pny-Rtx-3070-Xlr8/373350255305

good deal or nah?

at least to try and get

to pay up to like 500 for

true

[humble hemlock]

https://www.reddit.com/r/nvidia/comments/jwr1h1/amd_vice_president_scott_herkleman_nvidia_sam_on/?utm_medium=android_app&utm_source=share

[limpid latch]

nvidia will get its own

amd is setup to force you to have ryzen 5000 cpus

[humble hemlock]

they said they will work with intel also

[limpid latch]

soon

nvidia has to do their own

[humble hemlock]

intel / radeon thats pretty cool from them

[limpid latch]

nvidia is working ;with intel to implement their own version

[spice prawn]

a lot gets lots in translation about BAR

its a spec that they can all support IF they want

[paper depot]

Just want to verify you guys respect the universal rule of dibs?

[ripe ivy]

It's all in the PCIE spec pretty much

[spice prawn]

correct

[ripe ivy]

If Nvidia globally supports it, then AMD must as well

At least that makes the most sense for them to do

[spice prawn]

PR wise? agreed

[humble hemlock]

only consumers win they also said prior gen ryzen should be able to access (SAM) soon

[paper depot]

Sounds good

[ripe ivy]

I'm just curious if they're tying it to gen 4 or not

[fossil talon]

I wonder when the update will occur, it would be interesting to see Nvidia's turn at SAM

[weary loom]

should i get a 1650 super or 1660?

[limpid latch]

is it your end all be all for now or what?

if you get more money along the way get an evga 1660 and save up and do a stepup to a better card, use for time being till its ready to be sent in to exchange for stepup

[civic harbor]

Whats too hot for a graphics card

[ripe ivy]

95C I guess

That's generally where stuff tends to thermal throttle

[daring tusk]

95c? laughs in gaming laptop

bet you cant beat my high score of 101c

[rapid plaza]

What can take place of 1650 super but can put out the same or almost the same amount of performance?

[hollow heath]

Lol helpppp

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07H4V2ZKF/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o00_s00?ie=UTF8&th=1

I have no idea how to install the RGB on the 8 pin

[stoic glade]

1660 ti good for first build?

[dawn plover]

would rather get 5600xt

[brazen rune]

nah get 5600xt

[stoic glade]

amd?

[dawn plover]

destroys the 1660ti

yeah its amd

[brazen rune]

yes amd

[stoic glade]

oh

[hollow heath]

Anyone help? lol

[rapid plaza]

I would get a 1660 supper for that. But a 1660 don’t fit in my budget so which other one is good

[ripe ivy]

I don't even know what that is

[stoic glade]

first time getting a pc so 😆

yeah my options were 1660 ti or a 1660 super

overclock is not required

[ripe ivy]

Those are basically the same card

[stoic glade]

[ripe ivy]

They're within 2% of performance of each other, the 1660 Super made both the 1660 and 1660 Ti obsolete

[stoic glade]

so super?

[ripe ivy]

Sure, the Super took the same price point as the regular 1660

[stoic glade]

thanks

[lone pond]

what is with nvidia and amd releasing products they know are going to have the highest demand of a product ever and opening up the shop with like 10 in stock doing some willie wonka golden ticket bs

jensen pulls a 500 dollar 2080ti unicorn out of his stupid oven, only to then later inform you that there is only about 1000 of them in the world, and no plans on anymore realy in any greater numbers any time soon... so amd finally comes out like HEY we got the nvidia killer! just in time to like, cure the aids everyone got from that horribe nvidia launch.. just to do the same thing but even worse with even less stock.. unreal...

[rose adder]

it's not really in their control

TSMC allocated their equipment many many years ago and could not have possibly predicted this year's greatly increased demansd

there are only so many silicon wafers that can be produced

[lone pond]

yea ofc, but these numbers are super low, its not even about meeting the increased demand

they would barely be able to satisfy 2002 levels of demand right now

is tsmc making chinas new china chips also?

[ripe ivy]

They might be really soon

[spice prawn]

everyone is impatient now

[lone pond]

dont understand how all of a sudden they cant handle the same volume for the same clients they have allways had

[spice prawn]

because they have the time to be impatient

[lone pond]

its not about being impatient, its just kind of insulting.. they give these cards to youtube royalty

and get u stoked

[spice prawn]

if this had been a normal year, i personally would not have had the time to even be on this server

[lone pond]

they know they have liek 1k cards to sell

they should get fined for that bs

[ripe ivy]

TSMC being the king of silicon right now is an apparent problem

[rose adder]

I'm not sure what you would rather these companies do, some people being able to enjoy the product is better than no people enjoying the product. Is it really that painful to you to see others happy with their computers just because you can't have the hardware right now

[lone pond]

they could of been upfront about there 'stock' before being like, OH YEA, there is 10

esp considering there a public company?

[spice prawn]

time will tell when the finance call comes

[rose adder]

if they are a public company the shareholders want to sell as many as possible as they are produced. Like they have no reason to hold on to stock to wait for more supply

[limpid latch]

microcenter westmont had 6 6800 and 2xt's

hows that for launch lol

[lone pond]

but how can they do somthihng where a market might think they might sell 200k 699 dollar cards in about 3 days considering they usally open with like 200k cards of stock? instead opening with a thousand...

[spice prawn]

its simple

[lone pond]

its bs and it should be finable

[spice prawn]

they dont talk about the actual numbers they have

[ripe ivy]

The cards haven't fully launched quite yet though, a rather flimsy excuse for the time being I suppose but AIBs are launching next week

[lone pond]

all im sayin

[spice prawn]

and let the public dig their own holes

and that is what the public did

(just like the public always does)

[rose adder]

you say it should be fixable but present no solutions

[spice prawn]

the solution is easy btw

dont believe hype

[lone pond]

i guess that is true the 'aib rumor'

[rose adder]

nvidia and amd know full well that they will sell anything they make at this point and are working to make as many as possible

so I am not sure what else you want them to do other than make as many as they can

[lone pond]

its not about wanting, its what they did do

technically they trolled and mocked

[feral flame]

any reason why i had the chance to buy almost five 3090s today

?

[rose adder]

you are being too drawn in to the marketing

[feral flame]

yet no 3080 and I even got a 3070

[lone pond]

tiger direct is selling a 3090 for 200 dollars over msrp

no 1 seems to be buying them

[feral flame]

dell was too

i think the prices are coming down rapidly

[rose adder]

it's like you are personally offended that a company released a product just because you weren't able to get one

[feral flame]

i was able to get a 3070 twenty minutes after it was put in stock for base price

[rose adder]

it's still good that at least some people did

[lone pond]

i found a site selling a 3080 bundled with a i9 900k rofl... no 1 buying that ehter

captain

there was nothing fair about that launch

[spice prawn]

it was plenty fair

[lone pond]

fair is when 100 people camp outside every best buy in las vegas

and 50 get a ps3

at each store

[spice prawn]

there was products avaialable

[feral flame]

i think everyone was too focused on the 6800xt and thats why so much cards were abaiable

[dreamy dragon]

wallabi#8489 has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

[rose adder]

have you seen when Supreme launches a new line of clothing? the exact same thing happens. People line up for days, it sells out, then on ebay for 2x msrp

[spice prawn]

that is all it takes for it to be a launch

[rose adder]

this is a luxury product, you need to keep some perspective

[lone pond]

luxury product?

[spice prawn]

you personally might find that unfair, but that does not change the rules

[lone pond]

its a comptuer graphics card bro

[acoustic crest]

more people are getting ahold of 3080s, and 3090 interest is declining because of the price.

[lone pond]

its a peice of dirt and some glass

[spice prawn]

do you need it to live?

[ripe ivy]

The very definition of luxury

[spice prawn]

if no, then yes, its luxury

[ripe ivy]

It's not a necessity

[lone pond]

bleh

computer gpus where not a luxory 4 years ago they where gpus

[rose adder]

if you needed it for work you would probably use cloud computing in the meantime or just be willing to pay scalper pricing

[lone pond]

now all of asudden its a luxory?

please

[spice prawn]

you are quite wrong on that one @lone pond

there is nothing "new" about this

[ripe ivy]

Well you're attributing a different definition to luxury

[rose adder]

you should be thankful of how comfortable a life you must live if you don't consider a top of the line GPU a luxury

[spice prawn]

market demand is and will always be, market demand

[lone pond]

its because computers are trendy now so yes, now they are a luxory.. and ppl who like 'luxory' like it so they have somthing and someone else dosent to make them feel better about having it

[spice prawn]

no

[acoustic crest]

you're not getting it

[lone pond]

yep

k

[spice prawn]

it comes back around to this: Do you need it to live your life?

[ripe ivy]

What makes something luxury is not how trendy or expensive it is

A luxury item is simply something that is not a necessity to life

[spice prawn]

if no. Then you are talking about a luxury item.

[lone pond]

not really, i could buy the riger direct 3090 right now, its only 200 dollars over msrp.. or the 3080 bundled with a i9 i have the cash

its not the point

the stupid point is them over hyping something they dont have

while they have stock tradable on a market

[rose adder]

they are a for profit company... their job is to hype their products

[spice prawn]

they did what every other marketing department does all the time

the silly ones, are the ones that believed the hype

[lone pond]

its like insider trading almost

[rose adder]

their shareholders would hate it if they had a compelling product and sat on their butts waiting for more inventory instead of selling ASAP

[dreamy dragon]

wallabi#8489 has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

[rose adder]

do you know what insider trading is...?

[lone pond]

i said its like

among the same lines of its shady

why are u defending amd and nivida so much on this

[spice prawn]

there is nothing shady or wrong about what Nvidia or Amd did here

[lone pond]

kinda creepy btw

[rose adder]

I thought I was defending amd?

[acoustic crest]

how is it shady? if they held out until they had enough for everyone, guess what? you still wouldn't have a card right now.

[rose adder]

I am not even sure what you are saying anymore

[lone pond]

whatever i got better things to do later, dident want to start an entire moral debate about this

[ripe ivy]

Defending? Shady? What?

[rose adder]

guess I'm an nvidia shill then

Imma go trace some rays cya

[misty shoal]

If anyone is trying to get an RTX 3000/RX 6000/Ryzen 5000 this discord is actually REALLY helpful

[spice prawn]

@misty shoal see above

[misty shoal]

k

[rose adder]

one idea I had for high demand hardware launches is retails could do a lottery system

like for 30 mins after launch you can enter and they just select people randomly

[lone pond]

anything is better than what they just did

[spice prawn]

that is just punishing retailers for the hype nightmare that the manufacturers create @rose adder

[rose adder]

it depends on whether the positive pr would outweigh the development cost

people are irrational

[spice prawn]

consider this:

what happens when the customers complain that the lottery isnt fair?

who gets the bad PR for that?

[lone pond]

at the very least ebay would stop allowing ppl to sell products day of there release that are not linked to the actual retailer/manf/suplier to 'stop' scalpers.. it wouldent stop it completly ofc.. but it would surely make it allot less convient.

[rose adder]

customers already complain it's not fair so it's would at worse be the same

see example^

[spice prawn]

it would just move them to a different platform @lone pond

[rose adder]

I mean... there's nothing illigal about reselling something you purchased

[spice prawn]

re: already complain: right now the complaining is aimed at nvidia

to some extent

[rose adder]

like you aren't adding any value to society but also I don't scalping is really unethical unless you are doing it with things like masks / toilet paper / other essentials

[spice prawn]

if you involve a lottery, you take yet another step away from nvidia being the cause

[rose adder]

yeah I guess ur right @spice prawn it wouldnt really change anything

even with preorders people just complain they take too long to get filled

[spice prawn]

the only reason we have scalping is because people are unable to keep their CC in their pocket

[lone pond]

look at what b&h did

they immediatly, once they where allowed.. said stock is non existant

[rose adder]

nobody here is saying there was enough stock

[spice prawn]

consider this: Nothing prevents a vendor from saying: there is no stock.

IF any vendor tells you that? call them on the bs.

[lone pond]

well they couldent say they had extremly limmited stock a week ago, even though they had stock

[spice prawn]

they can say whatever they want

[rose adder]

I think there was probably an NDA from amd

[lone pond]

....

[rose adder]

for competitive reasons

[lone pond]

exactly

[spice prawn]

on stock levels its not from AMD

that is their own finance department

[lone pond]

then why dident b&h have theere redirect page up yesterday

[rose adder]

actually I could be wrong because newegg did say low 5000 availability before launch

[spice prawn]

ask B&H about that :)

[lone pond]

everyone expected that to be low stock

[spice prawn]

because i can think of a number of reasons for not having it up

[rose adder]

> everyone expected that to be low stock
> there was low stock

surprise picachu face

[lone pond]

yea low stock

not 10

[fathom bear]

If you got stock at the last minute, wouldn’t you want to sell it?

It’s not in the retailers best interest to disclose how much stock they have before it is for sale

[paper depot]

Bros i straight just want a 3080. Already 40$ down in gas trying to get stuff from a microcenter. Just big sad and frustrated

[lone pond]

what lol... how does that effect it selling or not.

telling ppl u have 5 and u can sell it in a week isnt going to efect u selling 5 cards

but it might help keep some peopel not calling in sic at work to camp outside of a store for 2 nights

[dreamy dragon]

wallabi#8489 has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

[lone pond]

stuff like that

[spice prawn]

again, that is people buying/believing hype

[fathom bear]

It helps the consumer, but it really does nothing for the retailer

[lone pond]

wow... this room is livid....

[rose adder]

if you call in sick to wait for 2 days to get a new gpu, you clearly already know the demand will be high and the store telling you about limited supply wouldn't change that either

[spice prawn]

@lone pond i think this channel is just puzzled about your stance on this

[lone pond]

im just in shock

@spice prawn

[paper depot]

Yeah them saying they have 3 would just make people camp out more tbh

[rose adder]

you're in shock? this has happened many times before

(10 series launch)

[lone pond]

what was wrong with 10 series launch lol it was fine with plenty of stock

hundreds of thousands of cards

[spice prawn]

no

we lacked stock

a LOT of stock

[paper depot]

We all just want what we want and it sucks when others wanting the same thing takes away from ourselves but thats just how it is

[rose adder]

yeah it was pretty bad, and that was without covid crippling the supply chains

[fathom bear]

If anything 30 series has been better

[spice prawn]

it might not have hit you directly, but there was a lack of stock

[lone pond]

i was able to buy a 1080ti no problems

[rose adder]

I meant when the 1070/1080 first came out

I haven't really tried buying a gpu since so I don't have that much experience tbh

[spice prawn]

the 1080TI was NOT the launch of the 1000 series :)

[lone pond]

2000 series had plenty of stock

[fathom bear]

That’s because no one wanted it lol

[rose adder]

lmao nobody wanted the 2000 series

[paper depot]

Well just remember guys that I called dibs

[fathom bear]

Less hype

[lone pond]

haha

that is true

[rose adder]

it had a new technology barely any games supported and not much performance increase

[spice prawn]

there is a reason that the term paper launch exists @lone pond

[fathom bear]

It didn’t even have any ray tracing games at launch

[rose adder]

I feel like the type of person who would play ray traced games would want to play them at higher framerate and resolution than is possible on 20 series gpu

[lone pond]

still dosent have any ray tracing games really

i dont count a game that uses it for 1 little thing

[spice prawn]

@rose adder tech like that, has to start "somewhere"

[fathom bear]

There are ray tracing games, I have several

[rose adder]

yeah from a company perspective and industry perspective it's good to move technology forward

[lone pond]

when u just use it for shadows, or a type of lighting, or reflectings... its kinda like why even bother

[spice prawn]

remember, its been a while since the first Geforce 256

[rose adder]

but I'm not paying a premium to be a beta tester

[fathom bear]

Is it worth the hype? In my opinion no

It’s neat, but it crippled your performance

[rose adder]

honestly rtx voice is actually pretty cool and something I could see using on a regular basis

people get annoyed at my mechanical keyboard sounds

[lone pond]

was way to soon for rtx...

esp since 4k gaming is becoming a norm almost now

[fathom bear]

@rose adder Haven’t heard about that. That sounds sweet

Could definitely use that for work

[lone pond]

yea rtx noise cancelation is really good

[rose adder]

I am hype for my rtx 2070 super

[lone pond]

youtube it, its pretty insane

[rose adder]

I will also play some minecraft rtx although it will be a bit choppy

[fathom bear]

Minecraft is supposed to be one of the better rtx games

[rose adder]

the big brain way to take advantage of a gpu launch is to refresh evga b stock site

[lone pond]

i mean my 1080ti is fine.. i rarely play anything demanding anyhow.. right now im playing sunless skies mostly

[rose adder]

$360 2070 super is the deal of a lifetime

[fathom bear]

1080ti still is a great card

[rose adder]

1080 ti was a good investment you can still play modern games

[lone pond]

ive only hit the vram limit in 4 games

[rose adder]

honestly if you want a card to last a long time I would wait until mid 2021 when nvidia releases 3080 ti with double vram

[lone pond]

1 is heavly model kerbal space and the other is heavly moded skyrim

[rose adder]

the 3080 will age worse because some games really eat up a ton of vram

[lone pond]

thats why i dident buy a 3080

[fathom bear]

Yeah probably

That’s my biggest gripe with 3070

[rose adder]

I am def sticking with my 2070 super until nvidia releases a high vram card

[fathom bear]

But I can’t complain for the price

[rose adder]

I use CUDA so I can't switch to team red

[lone pond]

3080 with 10gb is another slap in the face discussion regarding jensens ethic and moral values

[rose adder]

3090 is a ripoff

[lone pond]

that also

[fathom bear]

Also if you didn’t know, nvidia posted record profits today

😄

[lone pond]

3080 should of had 12gb of vram

[limpid latch]

well gddr6x is more expensive than 6

but 3090 is quite a high price

[lone pond]

isnt 3090 like the most least cost to performance valued consumer card ever released?

[limpid latch]

compared to 2080ti?

[rose adder]

ever released?

[remote cargo]

would 8gb gddr6 be worse than 6gb gddr6x?

[lone pond]

hmm

[rose adder]

I mean I guess it's not really a titan card

no titan drivers

there are some workloads rtx titan still outcompetes 3090

which is really stupid

[fathom bear]

@remote cargo No. GDDR6 is totally fine

[remote cargo]

okay then

i was just confused

i seriously want a 3070

[fathom bear]

There are a few cases where it degrades performance

[limpid latch]

imo its better to atleast have a card, if someone bought a 3090 they dont care about price too much

[spice prawn]

@lone pond look at some of the dual GPU on one card from ages past

[fathom bear]

But they’re few and far between

[remote cargo]

do you think i can get one for chrismas?

[rose adder]

for lower capacities, vram amount is the limiting factor more than vram speed

[fathom bear]

I think of all the recent cards, the 3070 is the easiest to buy

[rose adder]

it doesn't make sense for a low vram gpu to use g6x

[lone pond]

so thats how bad the 3090s value to performance is, we have to argue it comparitably to a dual gpu card? lol..

[remote cargo]

but still, i live in the west coast and its pracically impossible to find stock

also since i live nowhere near a microcenter

[fathom bear]

Try Zotac’s website

I’ve heard people have good luck there

[rose adder]

Zotac seems to restock a lot, I see lots of posts on r/buildapcsales

you need to make an account with them to check out quickly tho I think

[remote cargo]

zotac's gppu's look all weird tho

[viral elbow]

how do you guys think about this year's black friday

[spice prawn]

@lone pond nah, that is just the last time i can easily remember the AIB being that silly with their price

[limpid latch]

hell my friend in airforce in alaska is gonna have me get him his 5900x since microcenter is 15min from me.. if he told me the plan today i could have gotten one today for him

[rose adder]

black friday would be a good time to pick up ryzen 3000 or last gen video card potentially

[remote cargo]

black friday is scuffed this year

[lone pond]

did u see the steampunk 2080ti from colorfull @spice prawn ? lol

[remote cargo]

its all confusing

[fathom bear]

It will be bot Friday if there’s any real deals

[remote cargo]

but the deals are kinda nice

[rose adder]

I feel like given the increased demand the deals will be a bit worse than last year

[spice prawn]

that is just a custom card, done for a special reason. Nothing silly as such about that

[remote cargo]

i just ordered my mobo today

i prefer the fe

[viral elbow]

yea saw this analogy on reddit about zotac. Zotac is like the girl that you are last to ask to go to prom with because nobody wants to go with her. And the ones that you want to go with are already taken.

[remote cargo]

zotac would reject me

[lone pond]

i thought that was pny

[viral elbow]

pny?

that's the one we all forgot about

[rose adder]

I thought that was intel

[viral elbow]

[lone pond]

pny has the best looking 3080

[remote cargo]

i love the FE designs

[viral elbow]

the glow up duckling?

[rose adder]

I have a friend who was going to get me employee discount on intel chips

but they can't even stock their employee store

small brain intel

that's why I went amd lmao

[lone pond]

speaking about stock again

wtf is up with frys

[viral elbow]

thats crazy

[lone pond]

all they sell is like generic stuff now.. i was there 2 months ago.. all the isles are empty, except in like 1 shellf down the row, and its all generic knock off crap u never heard of lol

[paper depot]

Yo wallabi were you at westmont?

[remote cargo]

frys is like obsolete lol

i can never find anything i need there

[limpid latch]

i know someone at westmont

the microcenter is 15min from me as well

frys is dead they just try to act like they are not

[lone pond]

nah im in vegas

its so creepy in there

[limpid latch]

they put all their inventory to westcoast stores

in cali

[lone pond]

empty empty ilses, thne u find 1 with stuff.. and its the most generic crap u ever seen

[paper depot]

Damn piranha I'm about 10x farther away from the microcenter 🥲

[rose adder]

I've never been to a microcenter

Not stonks

[limpid latch]

microcenter is a great store

[burnt parcel]

i dont live near any

[limpid latch]

30 35 min from the chicago one

[remote cargo]

closes one to me is a 6 hour drive

[burnt parcel]

closest is 2 for me

[rose adder]

It would be so fun to walk into microcenter and buy everything for a computer right there on the spot

[burnt parcel]

that would be fun

[remote cargo]

imagine being able to buy a graphics card in 2020 for msrp on launch day

legit all i need to finish my build is a 3070

[limpid latch]

stated earlier they only had 2 xt's and 6 6800 at westmont

some 3080s apparently were there

[remote cargo]

ive been waiting like 4 moths for the 3070 to launch

and then i find out scalpers and bots exist

so now im forced to wait like another 3 months

[viral elbow]

found out they exist in the pc world too

[remote cargo]

for stock to be normal

i never experianced scalpers ever in anything

except Monopoly

[viral elbow]

the more you know i guess

[remote cargo]

its just sad

i was so excited in may when my parents told me i could build myself a pc

ive been doing sooo much research for the best parts, prices, deals etc

[limpid latch]

well its a great and not great time to build

lol

[remote cargo]

i guess so

[paper depot]

Lmao i asked for a 3080 and they said they didn't have any

Rip me

[remote cargo]

asked who?

[topaz furnace]

Is nowinstock.net a good site?

[remote cargo]

i heard it was

[limpid latch]

kryso just get a prebuilt w/ a card in it they seam to stay for sale longer

[remote cargo]

but i already bought a bunch of my other parts

[topaz furnace]

I think best buy website is broken

[limpid latch]

true

[remote cargo]

which is just bad on my side

best buy is going wack

[topaz furnace]

On nowinstock.net it said that best buy out of stock at 9am est

And best buy still says coming soon

[remote cargo]

for 6000 series right?

[topaz furnace]

I just wanted a gpu. An actual pearson who will use it and not try to be a scum and buy it just to sell it for more knowing it will be out of stock. Titles be like "Omg SUPER EXCLUSIVE 6800XT" $300 more

Yes 6009

6000*

Maybe I'll be able to get an aib

[limpid latch]

lol more like double i havent seen an xt on offerup yet but on ebay im sure

[topaz furnace]

Ye

[limpid latch]

1400 1500

[topaz furnace]

Wow

I hate scalpers soo much

[limpid latch]

lol some ppl are bumping ppls up lol

5900 42 bids

[topaz furnace]

How can these companies not making enough cards

[limpid latch]

😆

[topaz furnace]

They are multi billion dolla companies

[limpid latch]

lol 99k 109 bids

[topaz furnace]

And they like ohhh yeaa such good gpu but u know we forgot to actually make them

[lone pond]

LOLOLOLOLOLOL

ONLY THING RESTOCKED AT BEST BUY Ps5

LOLOLOLOLOL

[limpid latch]

best bet is evga queue

evga has been pushing out alot of gpus

[topaz furnace]

Evga isn't an amd partner

[limpid latch]

nope

[topaz furnace]

Wish they were

[limpid latch]

but if you stream or like the extra features of nvidia

[topaz furnace]

Is nv still better

3080 vs 6800xt

[limpid latch]

4k and ray tracing, dlss

[topaz furnace]

6800xt can do 4k

[limpid latch]

1400p is mosh up

[hexed badger]

should I try to get the 6800xt

[lone pond]

not counting ray tracing and 4k, its back to normal..

some games its better some its worse

[hexed badger]

or get something like a 1650 super for now

[limpid latch]

yes can do 4k but nvidia still alittle better at 4k

unless you 1080p exclusive then amd all the wya

[topaz furnace]

Well the 680pxt IS $50 less

[limpid latch]

way

[topaz furnace]

6800xt is $50 less

Than 3080

[limpid latch]

prob have easier time getting a 3080 over 6800xt depends on the aib

[paper depot]

Oh do we know when the next big drop of 3080s will be?

[limpid latch]

16th last list on nowinstock

[topaz furnace]

How much tax on the 3080s?

[limpid latch]

most been evga

[frigid bluff]

Just take what comes first if you are in need of a gpu that quickly. I mean throw preference out the window for the time being lol.

[limpid latch]

if you stream and use 1 pc no capture card nvidia will be better w/ nvec encoder

[remote cargo]

for 3070 it doesn't even matter that much

any 3070 is good

at msrp

[lean flicker]

My friend managed to get a 3070 backordered

In canada

[limpid latch]

https://www.nowinstock.net/computers/videocards/nvidia/rtx3080/

[lean flicker]

He used memory express or something

[remote cargo]

linus has all of them

[limpid latch]

16th last date

[topaz furnace]

I'm just keeping an eye out for 3080 or 6800xt

Whichever gets in stock first

[limpid latch]

hell if i didnt have this msi ventus 3090 a guy was selling a 3080 strix by me for 1200

id prob have taken it tbh

[remote cargo]

the thing is that onle best buy and microcenter will have 3070 FE and since i dont live near a microcenter, best buy is my only choice

so unless im lucky (which i rarely ever am) i cant get a 3070 FE until at least next year

[topaz furnace]

Whats the difference between the evga FTW ultra gaming and the XC3ultra?

[limpid latch]

3 pin

higher power output, higher base boost

cooler maybe alittle beefier

[topaz furnace]

Oh

[lone pond]

with DLSS and RTX on Nvidia is still superior

[vagrant phoenix]

Hello fellow night owls

[lone pond]

the thing is that onle best buy and microcenter will have 3070 FE and since i dont live near a microcenter, best buy is my only choice
@remote cargo best buy hasn't gotten any FE restocks in like 2 weeks

[limpid latch]

ftw3 has 450w bios update for 3080 500w for 3090

[vagrant phoenix]

Those are beta BIOS just FYI...use at your own risk

[limpid latch]

its fine it can take it no problem

i tried both 3080 and 3090

i couldnt get the 3090 past 418watts tho

the 3080 easily went to 450

[vagrant phoenix]

Silicon lottery strikes again

[limpid latch]

yea that too

the ftw are not binned.. only the kingpin will be

[vagrant phoenix]

Looks like you got a great 3080 and an ok 3090

Yup

[limpid latch]

the 3080 wouldnt ram oc tho

[vagrant phoenix]

Do you competitive OC or just mess around for fun?

[limpid latch]

atleast that specific

try to get best can with what pay for lol

they got to like 2145mhz

[vagrant phoenix]

Ahh

[limpid latch]

kid who traded for 3090 got my ftw3 to 2185

[vagrant phoenix]

I was checking out the undervolt thread on EVGA forums...pretty interesting results they're getting

[limpid latch]

something with the shunts on the power delivery are messed up i read

and not allowing enough power to draw

[vagrant phoenix]

I hadn't seen that.

[limpid latch]

its something, cause my friends card didnt overclock or get good scores either

even with only 418watts i got better benchmark scores lol

https://www.corsair.com/us/en/Categories/Products/Custom-Cooling/Blocks/GPU-Blocks/Hydro-X-Series-XG7-RGB-30-SERIES-GPU-Water-Block/p/CX-9020014-WW

i just want my waterblock ugh

[vagrant phoenix]

EK is coming any day now

[limpid latch]

for which card of urs

[vagrant phoenix]

FTW3

[limpid latch]

oh they will list it online?

[modern rampart]

has anyone here claimed their geforce now membership from their 3000 cards?

[limpid latch]

i know they got xc3 blocks

[vagrant phoenix]

We noticed that you're thirsty for RTX 3080/3090 FTW3 and Trio water blocks. To show you that we're working on them and to quench some of that thirst, here's a bit of a tease.

[modern rampart]

i got a card that told me i would get geforce now membership but dont know how to redeem it

[limpid latch]

i know they prob waited on getting the ones done for evga first with the hydrocopper i bet

[vagrant phoenix]

EK didn't do the HC this time

@modern rampart REDEEM YOUR BUNDLE THROUGH GEFORCE EXPERIENCE

Install your qualified graphics card.
Update or install the latest version of GeForce Experience (Version 3.18 or higher).
Open and log in to GeForce Experience.
Go to the Account drop-down menu in the top-right and select “REDEEM”.
Enter your offer code from your qualifying purchase.
Follow the remaining instructions on the screen to activate your promotion.
After redeeming, visit geforcenow.com/download to download the GeForce NOW app to your device to start playing.
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[limpid latch]

oh i thought it was who did it

[vagrant phoenix]

They did the 10 or 20 series I think

They said they did not do 30

[limpid latch]

that could be alphacool

they doing asus

[vagrant phoenix]

no idea

[lone pond]

they stil gave cold war keys

[vagrant phoenix]

I got both Mando

[limpid latch]

oh no wait asus is doing ek waterblock combo

evga prob doing alphacool

they got sooo many reference blocks for alphacool right now

[vagrant phoenix]

Hope it isn't Corsair lol

[limpid latch]

corsair fixed the issue

[vagrant phoenix]

Oh did they? I haven't been paying attention to it

[limpid latch]

3rd screw mount in middle

[vagrant phoenix]

Good for them

[limpid latch]

more stable i can see in pics

[vagrant phoenix]

They have pretty solid products

[limpid latch]

except the older gpu blocks and pump/res combos i had 4 and all grinded

[vagrant phoenix]

eww

Pre HydroX?

[limpid latch]

but got preorder for the ventus for 165 shipped

xd5

or something

was nice mounting for it but that pump ugh

[vagrant phoenix]

Man I am going to go bonkers starting Friday...off for 9 days and will have everything for my rig except the watercooling stuff

[limpid latch]

hydro xd5 rgb pump

[vagrant phoenix]

Loud anything sucks

[limpid latch]

so its just sitting n cant use

esp if you have fans at 1100 rpm noctua so quite quiet

[vagrant phoenix]

I have Noctua in mine current box...just put them in about 9 months ago. So quiet. Now I have to clean out my wife's because her fans are starting to hum. Driving me crazy.

[rose adder]

Lmao what

Apparently sam's club listed a 3090

[vagrant phoenix]

no way

[rose adder]

These are strange times

[limpid latch]

keep in mind noctua will be louder pulling with a radiator, they are designed to push through more

[rose adder]

Maybe you can bundle with 10 lb of ketchup

[vagrant phoenix]

I have Lian Li Unifans for the new rig

LOL @rose adder

[limpid latch]

ekwbs are pricey if they had ventus one though id prob already bought it

esp since gotta buy backplate separate

[vagrant phoenix]

Yah

[limpid latch]

alphacool was like 203 shipped

corsair with free shipping and 10% off 165 out the door

[vagrant phoenix]

This is my once in twenty years "money no object" build. I spent almost $5000 building a 486DX2 back in 1996 when you had to picks parts out of the Computer Shopper catalog and call in your order by phone.

Then built several budget systems since then

[glad saffron]

2080ti hybrid with 2 noctua fans and powerlink for 600 a good deal?

[limpid latch]

hmmm

[vagrant phoenix]

Sounds like 60% off to me and that sounds like a yes

[glad saffron]

Sweet

[limpid latch]

if you cant wait for other cards why not

[vagrant phoenix]

Yah

[glad saffron]

Planned on either waiting til supply is stable enough to buy or just get top end last gen and skip this gen

[spice prawn]

@vagrant phoenix the period of 1mb edo-ram modules :)

[vagrant phoenix]

You seem like you have a level head...you in the right place?

@spice prawn Haha yes. And $500 for a Paradise 16-bit sound card

[spice prawn]

thats not a name i have heard in decades :)

[limpid latch]

ok need some sleep gluck whoever on search for a card

[vagrant phoenix]

Peace

[spice prawn]

mine was a Gravis Ultrasound

[vagrant phoenix]

I was so excited about the DX2 because it had a math coprocessor so I could run my bootleg Autocad 12 for my engineering drawing course

[spice prawn]

which could NOT play both soundtrack and soundeffects in a game like Dune 2

it was either or :)

[vagrant phoenix]

Gravis rings a bell

I miss the giant catalogs of those days

[spice prawn]

they did some fantastic music oriented cards back then :)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gravis_Ultrasound#/media/File:Ultrasound_classic.jpg

[vagrant phoenix]

I didn't get into them too much but my neighbor who got me into PCs did all kinds of music stuff on his

[spice prawn]

what i remember the most from that machine was this: The CD-rom drive came with a license for corel draw

[vagrant phoenix]

nice...I remember my grandmother got me my first CDROM drive for my birthday one year...when they were stupidly expensive

[spice prawn]

oh this one was very much stupidly expensive :D

[vagrant phoenix]

Weren't they like $800 at first for one? I cannot remember.

[spice prawn]

its been too long :)

[vagrant phoenix]

I remember my neighbor Frank being real excited about it and he ran over a copy of Windows 95 to me

[spice prawn]

but i would not be surprised

but i remember the printer we got with it

[vagrant phoenix]

He is the CIO of one of the big pharma corps now

[spice prawn]

which weighed about as much as the machine itself

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/d/da/Gravis_UltraSound_PnP_Pro_V1.0.jpg

the ram on that should be quite familiar to you

[vagrant phoenix]

We didn't have a printer for a long time...

Yep, I remember those well

They were a pain to seat

[spice prawn]

i cant help but smile at how many people here dont know about 80% of the connectors on that card :)

you want sound from your cdrom ?

you better have that top 4 pin connected

[vagrant phoenix]

Yep ATAPI connection...good old IDE. You know I just tossed an old IDE cable I had buried in my PC parts box lol

[spice prawn]

i did that a number of years back for the majority of that stuff

i still have a few, just in case.

[vagrant phoenix]

I didn't realize I still had them. Had two old CDROMs I kept around as spares sitting on top.

[spice prawn]

:)