graphics-cards

[arctic phoenix]

no real "reason" to upgrade unless youre running a better monitor

[gloomy walrus]

oh meep your getting rtx voice and video support for your gpu how do you feel

[arctic phoenix]

very fun

but tbh i might upgrade when i upgrade my monitor

[gloomy walrus]

fair

[arctic phoenix]

its hard to resist 2080ti for 450

yknow

[gloomy walrus]

i upgraded from a 580 for the rtx support and if the 2080 drops to 450 ima pounce

[arctic phoenix]

check your local used market

[fierce solar]

will the i5-9600k bottleneck the 3070?

[arctic phoenix]

in what?

which games, what monitor, etc..

[gloomy walrus]

i would say "yes" no pcie gen 3 however i dont think so

[fierce solar]

I have a dell 60 hz monitor, i am wanting to play vr my current graphics card doesnt quite hit the req for a lot of vr games

i have a 1650 superclocked

[gloomy walrus]

what games you playing in vr

[fierce solar]

i want half life alyx

[gloomy walrus]

oh

[fierce solar]

the new walking dead game

stuff like that

[gloomy walrus]

ok ya

i see that mostly you can get away with a gtx 980 but titles like that ya i can see that

[fierce solar]

yeah

im just wondering if it will be worth it to upgrade to the 3070

[gloomy walrus]

wait for the 20xx to become supper cheap XD

[fierce solar]

Yeah i should just wait for that

thank you

[gloomy walrus]

uhh till then have you oced your card?

[fierce solar]

yeah

[gloomy walrus]

oh ok

[fierce solar]

I think im just going to wait a month or two to get a 2070 or something

[gloomy walrus]

ya if not that 3070 looks sweet

[fierce solar]

it really does

how good is the 2060

[gloomy walrus]

do you want me to send a bench mark?

and if so wich

[fierce solar]

That would be awesome, what about hitman 2

or doom eternal

[gloomy walrus]

uhh i don't have those games. doom eternal looks awesome just don't have the money (dyeing car) and hitman never stuck me as a game of interest

i do got star citi i occasonaly boot

[fierce solar]

dang

what games do you have?

[gloomy walrus]

you know what does rainbow have a bench test mode?

[fierce solar]

I’m not sure

[gloomy walrus]

i can install gears 5 or 4

no mans sky

i should play more popular games lol

[fierce solar]

Lol

Gears five sounds good

[gloomy walrus]

aight installing it now will take a moment

[fierce solar]

Do you want to DM the benchmarks to me? I’m gonna be going to bed soon so I might not see it till morning

[gloomy walrus]

ok

[fierce solar]

Thank you

[orchid loom]

[burnt zodiac]

Anyone know the length of the Asus matrix 980? Want to know this for a reference of what I can fit in my case.

11.70" x 6.00"

Or in mm

[lone pond]

298mm

@burnt zodiac

[burnt zodiac]

mk thanks

[rapid herald]

when in october is the 3070 coming out

[lone pond]

Nobody knows yet

We will know when the month gets closer

[neat bronze]

does anyone know if the Aorus Master Z390 motherboard will be compatible with the RTX 3080?

[lone pond]

Probably

Just won’t run to it’s fullest potential

But tbh idk

[severe basin]

There's no incompatibility to worry about, as of yet.

You're looking at 4-5 years before PCIe 3 is phased out I would guess.

[elfin walrus]

some one explain pcie 4.0 to me in dummy terms, to see if its worth upgrading from x470

[lone pond]

It go fast

LOL

[dawn cedar]

it has the option for double bandwidth over 3.0 but its very rare that u see something that can even use that @elfin walrus

[elfin walrus]

ty

[lone pond]

Mine was in dummy terms 😦

[elfin walrus]

i was stressed when i saw no pcie 4 on my mobo

u good dallas

[lone pond]

Lol

Pcie4.0?

[dawn cedar]

lol

just a marketing gimmick

no performance difference with that thing over 3.0

[modest stump]

How much do you think I could sell a strix 2080s for

[elfin walrus]

400 bucks if u are lucky

[modest stump]

Damn

[elfin walrus]

just the way these 30 series destroyed resale market

[dreamy dragon]

Pulse Eman#7838 has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

[modest stump]

Shut up

Yeah what you said

How quick do you think the 3080 will sell out

[rich oasis]

Very

[elfin walrus]

faster than an f1 car

[faint kindle]

I wish they’d give a time frame of when it’ll be released

I wanna get it on launch but it’ll probably sell out before I can order it lmao

They say the stock is the lowest it’s been in years for the launch of a new card, apparently? Not 100% sure on that though

[lone pond]

who said that

dammit how am i gonna know if i can use it with a air cpu cooler without seeing reviews first

by which point everything is gone

[sinful crater]

Tuf

Ima be stocking the page all day

Ready with my 699

[celest wave]

Isn't it like 2pm on the 17th or something?

Sure they get review samples out by then

[lone pond]

i should hope so

ppl shouldn't be buying without seeing reviews anyway

[safe sigil]

@lone pond people shouldn’t be, but people will. Tough call when being faced with either buying it sight unseen or waiting potentially months for a re-stock.

[carmine iris]

is there any speculation/guesses on which board partner cards are probably the ones to go for for the 3070/3080 based on previous gens?

[solemn panther]

We don't know yet till reviews drop

[faint kindle]

“One thing to bear in mind is stocks of the GeForce RTX 3080 could be very low at launch, as supply chain reports note that the launch of the new graphics card will be the smallest one in "many years." “

Woops can’t link websites

[carmine iris]

obviously we need reviews yeah, i was just wondering if there was anything such as "the 2070 from this mfr was top tier, so maybe the 3070 will be too"

i'm not familiar with nvidia cards is mostly why i ask

like i'm pretty sure the sapphire nitro+ is the go to 5700xt? so i'd probably expect their next gen to be good quality

[lone pond]

Will pcie 3 be a bottleneck on the 3090

Anyone?

probably not.. pci 3.0 x16 15GB/s.. when new games come out that can use the 3000 series for decompression, and the game has like, 8k+ textures.... it might push close to that.. right now games hardly use any bus

So basically, I can use pcie 3.0 on my 3090? Also should I go for msi 3090 or asus 3090?

meh what brand is more of a personal preference

I’m going for mainly performance

evga is arguably the best for nvidia cards and xfx is arguably the best for ati cards

but its really just preference, and what ceo u want in a new super yaht

Is there a huge performance difference between different companies?

just in there warranty and rma terms / agreement.. diff board partners also use diff wholesale compenents (the biggest factor)

i dont know the specifics on that

but lets say msi and gigabyte get japense caps from x manf

asus and evga might get caps for this whoelsap manf

etc

other than that, pretty much the same? ud have to wait and see someone like buildzoid/actualyhardwareoc to break down the super specifics

the biggest diff is there coolers though

ive been buying gigabyte lately

personally

there gamer oc edition gpu's are the cheapest on the market

Which company offers the best cooling for gpus? Also do u think that the companies that will sell the 3090 will price the 3090 under $1700?

gigabytes gamer oc 3080 should be the same price as the nvidia founders

er 3090

i would imagine

gigabytes gamer oc line has been the cheapest offering for 1080ti/2080ti, i would imagine it to follow suit for 3090

K ty

[solemn panther]

Mmmm

[lone pond]

Also I’m planning to build my pc in January, do u think it’ll be in stock in January?

u should buy in decemember 2 before christmas

if thats the case

Y?

i expect 3070's and 3090s to be very sold out

cause they gonna restock for christmas

[vocal saddle]

when do you think the 3070 is going to be released?

early october?

late?

[lone pond]

they said september diden thay?

[vocal saddle]

september for the 3080 and 3090

[lone pond]

oh no idea then...

they gota have enough failed 3080/3090 chiplets to make a good amount of 3070 product, 3070 is gonna sell like crack

so im sure they want enough supply ready

Is $200 cheap for a 1000watt psu?

what brand is it

Corsair

https://www.corsair.com/us/en/Categories/Products/Power-Supply-Units/hxi-series-config/p/CP-9020074-NA

any psu is good really, unless its rosewill...

u pay for the performance rating

Also will that psu work with a 3090?

mostly

thats a good psu

Also someone in build chat said 3090 will get bottlenecked by pcie 3 , im so confused rn cuz I was thinking about i9 10th gen

i dont think so...

lol

like i said, games hardly use ANY pci bus during gameplay, but the 3000 series can decompress on the gpu, so.. when games start using that.. its gonna put some data usage on the bus during play.. but i could not see that using more than 15gb a second

my 4.0 aorus nvme is only 4gb lol

so no its not gonna bottelneck, not a chance in hell.

Does fn use any pci bus?

fn?

fortnite?

god no lol

K

ur cpu is gonna bottleneck that card in fortnite though

less u play it in like 8k

the card wont hit 100% usage

pretty sure lol

i9 10th gen will bottleneck the 3090???

with fortnite yea rofl

What cpu should I get than for the 3090?

in what resolution

its more to do than cpu

the game engine and the game assets

and gonna utilize 100% of a 3090 in like 1080p lol

I’m running comp settings

u would need a 10ghz cpu

if ur buying a 3090 for fortnite to play on a 1080 monitor lol 🙂

even on the most expensive x series intel cpu at 5ghz, it would probably bottleneck the gpu

its ment for 8k or like triple 4k monitor sim setups

So what cpu should I get?

[lone pond]

Bruh how much fps do you need in fartnite to justify an i9 and 3090

[vocal saddle]

bro you gotta clap the defaults what do you expect?

[trim crown]

Soooooo.... I think my gpu is dieing....

Ive only owned it for a month and its starting to stuttered like crazy today

Utilization keeps jumping up and down

[lone pond]

is the fan spinning or is it reving up?

[trim crown]

It revs up and down alot

[lone pond]

try forcing it at max 100

and run a bench or play a game

[trim crown]

Ill try

Theres a ton of input lag too

So its trying to reach 100 but it drops rpm alot

Its sounds like its gonna explode

Theres a loud buzzing noise

[lone pond]

is it a blower gpu?

those fans do go bad all the time

[trim crown]

Its 3 fan

[lone pond]

hmm

[trim crown]

Gigabyte

I got it from newegg

[lone pond]

when ur computer is off

try to see if they spin freely

easly

with no resisitance

[trim crown]

To see if the bearings are the issue?

[lone pond]

or anything else yea

u should be able to tap them

and they should spin

if they abrubtly stop

or there is like a grindy feel

something wrong with them

[trim crown]

The fan closets to the back of the case abruptly stops

[lone pond]

ee, sounds like u got a bade then

happens...

[dreamy dragon]

wallabi#8489 has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

[lone pond]

gpu fans are cheap as f

i bought 2 ati 5850's from xfx

[trim crown]

But what causing my utilization to jump

[lone pond]

1 of the fans died within like 2 months

[trim crown]

?

[lone pond]

completly

thats because the fan cant keep it stable temp

so it cools down, util gos up spikes

fans cant keep up

then it shoots down the clock

and it cools down util drops

[trim crown]

My junction temp was in 60s tho?

[lone pond]

hmm dunno then

maybe its unrelated and its somthing else

[trim crown]

Looks like imma have to call gigabyte

[lone pond]

check to see

if there is a bios update

[trim crown]

[lone pond]

for ur card from giga

try that first, the ncall

cause they gonna be like update ur bios

[trim crown]

Thanks for the help

[rare rampart]

who from here is trying to get a 3000 series GPU?

[unkempt frigate]

i think majority if not everyone

[rare rampart]

Even the people who bought 2080ti's this year 😳

?

[unkempt frigate]

most likely

[rare rampart]

thats minimum 1300 most people dont have that typa money

[unkempt frigate]

well if the 3000 series is as good as they claim it is. people are gonna be selling there 2080ti's

[severe basin]

I may be looking to get something this year

But I want to get my new monitor first

And really I just finished putting together a second PC so I am probably 6 months out from buying anything except a monitor

I wanna keep waiting and see what happens with navi2 and the ti and/or super cards

[lone pond]

Most people are gonna end up waiting for the cards to get back in stock anyway :/

[severe basin]

And to be fair a lot of it hinges on what the US congress decides to do about helping it's citizens

[icy jackal]

?

[lone pond]

i have the cash on side to afford a 3090, like i can afford it..

but i really dont need it, only a 2k monitor and i dont plan on changing that

but that said, i have a 1080ti, im not gonna downgrade my memory by a gig

so.... theres that

gonna wait for big navi/3080ti

[cold stream]

for a 2k wouldn't then like a "3060" fulfill your needs and reap the benefits of a newer card

[lone pond]

it could... but for how long

dont forgit new consoles coming out

[cold stream]

you said you aren't changing the monitor so

[lone pond]

games are gonna be drasticly more demanding

in a year

for ultra settings

i upgrade my gpu like every 3-5 years depending

i mean id be good with a 3070ti probably for sure...

[cold stream]

I think then, that a 3070 would be fine for you.

[lone pond]

meh, full tard.. nvlink 3090 YOLO

😄

what do u think 3dmark nvline 3090 scores are gonna be rofl...

[solemn panther]

3080 day one

[lone pond]

really? what card o u have now

[solemn panther]

With nvlink3090....I would say almost 80-90k

Rn a 2070s. It's on eBay so I'll have no gpu for 2 to 3 weeks

It going to be worth it

Hbu

?

Well honestly

Maybe a score of 50k

Who knows

[lone pond]

tbh i was debating puting my 1080ti on ebay yesterday

and doing the same

but i have the money in the bak, its not a issue to rush sell it, and i like having my old cards...

• i really want to wait for big navi, just to see what happens, nv prices, big navi performance, 3080ti yada yada

[lament yarrow]

Hm

[sacred stone]

Waiting is always smart

[grave vapor]

How much should I sell my 1070 ?

[rich oasis]

160

[lone pond]

About $55

[rich oasis]

I see 2060s going for 250-200

[grave vapor]

160? Hmm

[wind sierra]

after seeing the 3070, the 2060 looks like trash

[wary anvil]

Yup

[low niche]

is hdmi able to do 240hz

[lone pond]

Depending on the monitor

You’re better off using DisplayPort

[low niche]

ok thanks

[severe basin]

Hdmi 2.0 is capable I think

For it to work the source, cable, and input port all need to be hdmi 2.0 or better

[lone pond]

Will there be a 3060 ?

[spare relic]

I think so

I'm hoping for a 3050

and I'm hoping it's small lol

[trim crown]

What kind of performance are you expecting?@spare relic

[spare relic]

just 1080p, 60fps, high or ultra

Assetto Corsa, War Thunder, Minecraft w/ shaders, among other things

1650 Super would probably satisfy that just fine, but if a 3050 is released and it's the same price, and there's a card vendor that makes one small enough, I'd probably want to go for it

[trim crown]

Hmmmm hope you get that

[lone pond]

Are you guys going to be running an aio or air cooling for the 3080?

[rich oasis]

Air cooler?

Not sure how you would do a aio on a rtx3000 yet

Dont know if they have a aio mounting bracket for it yet

Even so too much money

[wet pebble]

You guys think a 3060 super will come@our?

Come out

[fervent obsidian]

well they would need to release a 3060 first

[severe basin]

EVGA is releasing a hybrid cooler for at least the 3080 and 90, EKWB will have water blocks available for them, and I'm sure gigabyte will have a hybrid and/or preinstalled water block model

[rich oasis]

@severe basin know that

But

He said aio

Hybrid coolers and water blocks arent aiod

Aios

[spice prawn]

imagine a full cover block for that https://www.techpowerup.com/review/nvidia-geforce-ampere-architecture-board-design-gaming-tech-software/images/rtx-3080-pcb-front.jpg

for its place in the product stack, it will be a small card

[brisk flame]

it would be cool to use the small empty space at the back to put the inlet and outlet

if they made a block

[spice prawn]

aye, there are some really interesting options

[granite juniper]

dang thats one dense pcb

[spice prawn]

aye

[granite juniper]

wonder if they could make a normal length waterblock with a pump on the right side

[spice prawn]

also, some of the "why are the founder cards priced like that" mystery has been answered

nvidia seems to be positioning their founder cards, not as reference designs, but "this is something you should aspire to" cards

they should be able to

the be quiet pump comes to mind Nachos

https://images.anandtech.com/doci/16043/PL_280_P_178.jpg

that one @granite juniper

[lone pond]

@rich oasis sorry I misspoke I mean air cooler or aio for the cpu
Am worried that the top facing fan in the 3000 cards is going to heat up the cpu

[granite juniper]

hm

[spice prawn]

not really going to be much of a problem @lone pond (is my personal take on it)

[granite juniper]

wow thats a small pump lol

[lone pond]

Really? I'm going to get a pretty beefy air cooler if anything like a noctua or drp4. Hopefully will be enough

[spice prawn]

well, pumps are not that big, its when they are integrated with other parts that size goes way up Nachos

[lone pond]

Shouldn't be much worse than any other modern gpu

[granite juniper]

true

i was also thinking of a d5 kinda pump didnt really think about smaller ones

[spice prawn]

:)

@lone pond my logic goes like this: It is quite unlikely that nvidia would have a bunch of simulation data that shows a fair chunk of systems catching fire, and still go with that solution :)

that does not mean that there wont be a bunch of journos/talking heads losing their collective minds about the 2-5 degrees raised temp

[lone pond]

I mean air coolers are still very popular, especially among the ryzen crowd. Doesn't seem like a smart decision to try and make them obsolete

[spice prawn]

(the 2-5degrees raised temp is just a random guess)

[lone pond]

Sure

[raven dirge]

question

[spice prawn]

and considering how much engineering work they do in their DGX boxes ... i would not be worried.

[raven dirge]

of anybody can answer my question

[lone pond]

Dgx?

[spice prawn]

AI workstation

[raven dirge]

@spice prawn For my case wires can u show me where to put it on a $h

(B450M PRO-VDH Max)

[spice prawn]

@raven dirge read the manual, it has a chart for it

[raven dirge]

@spice prawn i didnt get the specific part yet lad

[lone pond]

Well thanks for the reassurance lol
Probably will stick with the noctua d15 in the end

[spice prawn]

@raven dirge page 12 in the manual

[raven dirge]

@spice prawn do u have that specific (B450M PRO-VDH Max)

motherboard

[spice prawn]

i have worked on it about .. 50+ times

but no, i personally dont have it in any of my rigs

[long pond]

hey guys

[spice prawn]

and also @raven dirge this is a better fit in #cpus-mobo-and-memory :)

[long pond]

so I bought an 2060 recently before the 3070 was announced, the 2060 is still within the 30 days to return. should I return it and spend my money on a 3070 or keep it? Thanks

[spice prawn]

@long pond that is entirely your choice.

[raven dirge]

@long pond return that gpu and get the 3070

tbh if its much faster you should get it to improve gaming

[spice prawn]

there is a fair distance from the 300 msrp of the 2060 to the 499 starting price of the 3070

[long pond]

ok thanks @raven dirge @spice prawn I might be able to swing it

[trim crown]

@long pond if you cant swing for 3070 you could probably get a higher end card for the same price of the 2060.

Things are gonna shift in price soon hopefully

[long pond]

@trim crown ok thanks for the info. I will certainly look around

[frigid anvil]

Buy a 3090.

[ivory rune]

Hey, I've never tried to purchase a card on release day, especially without pre-orders. What time will the release likely be? Maybe based on previous release days. Midnight est? midnight pst? What do you think is the most likely

[spare relic]

3050

:peepo_sign:

[lone pond]

do you guys think I should buy the parts already before the 3080 comes out

so I have everything ready and just have to put the card in

or should I get the rest of everything after it's finally out

[spice prawn]

@ivory rune we will know closer to launch

[lone pond]

Naed

[dreamy dragon]

Varitek#5667 has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

[lone pond]

do you know if we order directly from the Nvidia website

or do we purchase the card from a computer store like Newegg?

[spice prawn]

see what i just said :)

[lone pond]

I see I see

[ivory rune]

Is that info they release or is that more of like rumor/leak stuff

Again I've only ever purchased cards a year+ after release

[spice prawn]

@ivory rune all previous product launches in the gpu space has been with info released as we get closer

[ivory rune]

Aight sounds good

[spice prawn]

in the world of shipping/logistics, its still very far away

[ivory rune]

I'll just keep an eye out like everyone else

True

Thanks

[spice prawn]

you are very welcome :)

[finite oak]

I want a rtx 3080 so bad

[granite juniper]

then buy one :v

[lone pond]

I'm getting the 3080 too

it would be nice to finally be playing 4k properly

so graphic is going to be top notch I'm going to research on sound too for my new system

I want a sound card

[spice prawn]

@lone pond IF you are serious about your sound, ask in #peripherals-and-displays

[lone pond]

not super serious

but I think it'll be a great experience along with 4k gaming with the 3080

lol the word they used

audiophile

[finite oak]

I want one beucase it's supper good but I feel like it would make make computer I am building even more over kill
Ryzen 9 3900x slight oc as well
All sad no hdd
Nzxt x63 cooler
And as of now a 850w 80+ gold psu
With 32 gb of gskill trident

[lone pond]

that sounds like such a dirty word

[finite oak]

Ssd* gosh at times I hate auto correct

But the problem is I don't have the money for something like that

[lone pond]

dear god

I'm on the Canadian site I'm Canadian

"you want to utilize the 3080 haha plebs dream on"

[rigid crag]

4k + high refresh rate is not an easy pair

[brisk flame]

as of now im using F@H to justify my future 3080 purchase lmao

also the ability to literally use it for the next decade

[rigid crag]

Lmao

I just want ddr5 lmao

[severe basin]

woof

I'm glad 2k 240hz is slightly more reasonable

[celest wave]

@lone pond you are really stuck on the 4k high refresh dream huh

[onyx edge]

Should I wait for 3070 n get a 2080 fo 400 in the meantime

[arctic phoenix]

3070

[onyx edge]

I wanna build so bad but u rit

[arctic phoenix]

if u want, u can buy another older used card for cheap

that way you lose 30$ instead of 100$

[torn tundra]

Gpu
Gaming pee urinal

[rigid crag]

[vague scroll]

so where can i get one?

[merry orchid]

Hello Can someone help me

[onyx edge]

You think the 2080 resell value gonna be 300ish after 30 series launch? @arctic phoenix

[arctic phoenix]

after 3070 launch

so october maybe

right now its around 350 for good deals

[onyx edge]

alright thanks

[torn tundra]

@vague scroll japan sega urinal

[vague scroll]

haha thx

[grave vapor]

Looks like I’m not gonna have a graphics card till the 3070 launches

[lone pond]

me with intel hd 250 from 2012 graphics that run minecraft at 720p at 20 frames

[faint kindle]

Everyone is so against the FE 3080 and I’m fairly new to the market so I’m a little sketched out about buying it on release but I really want it

Had a 2080s but returned it

So now I want a 3080 ASAP

[lone pond]

Why are people against the FE 3080

[faint kindle]

I guess to work out bugs and stuff idk

Not really sure

But we’ll see, if nothing else/if it ends up being bad I’ll find a 2080ti for sale somewhere and hopefully it’ll be a lot cheaper by then

I saw one on Facebook marketplace earlier that was nearly brand new and $600 so we’ll see

[lone pond]

I don't get it are FE cards normally bad?
Cuz I'm gonna buy whatever I can get my hands on first lol

[upper mural]

YA in the past the cooling solution sucked.. But these new ones seem like they will be ok

Of course Nvidia thinks its ok for their cards to run at 80c. we usually disagree and try to keep it below that

[spice prawn]

what to keep in mind is that nvidia seems to have changed their reasoning for the FE cards this time around. They used to be (in prior generations) akin to reference designs. This time around, they are building them as "milestone/gold" cards that the other card manufacturers should/could aim for IF they want a solid card.

case in point being the 12pin connector, fancy pcb and cooler design on the 3080/3090

also, while on the topic of pcb, that FE pcb on the 3080/3090 is going to be quite nifty for small-ish waterloop setups.

[lone pond]

Sooo what is gonna be better FE or aftermarket stuff

[lucid matrix]

I’d say FE has just closed the gap

[severe basin]

I dunno about all that

Asus strix 3090 can provide 150 more watts than the FE

[granite juniper]

its also gonna be like 200 more

[severe basin]

I'm sure it would be more expensive, but if Asus found a way to give it that much more power, I think that means that Nvidia left some room in the table with the vFE

[lone pond]

Should I buy I broken gtx 1070

[severe basin]

As like a project?

[lone pond]

It’s like really cheap and it says the fan and card lights up

[spice prawn]

@severe basin time will tell on the FE's :)

[severe basin]

I wouldn't buy one hoping to use it

[lone pond]

But it won’t signal to the monitor

Yeah it’s a project

[spare relic]

go for it if you want something to tinker with

[severe basin]

@spice prawn

[spice prawn]

hm?

[severe basin]

I was just responding to your "time will tell..."

[spare relic]

he memeing the wait :p

[severe basin]

Yeah I've got a bunch of those

[spare relic]

xd

[spice prawn]

ah :)

hey, if having something i said become a meme makes just a single person actually wait for reviews? then that is a good thing.

[severe basin]

Yeah I don't mind waiting for anything

Except football season

[merry dirge]

\

[lone pond]

Little ridiculous how far away the 3070 is. Everyone said "wait until Sept 1st" and now it's wait another month. It's the card most people will want anyway

[spice prawn]

well, what is silly is the people that expected a hard launch (cards available at the announcement date)

so, if you want to blame anyone for anything. Blame the people that dont read the full answer to their questions :)

[lone pond]

Yeah. Those people suck

What questions tho

[spice prawn]

"when will 3000 series cards be released"

[upper mural]

I have opportunity to buy a 2070 super FE for 300$ still sealed in the box 2 months old. Someone talk me out of it

[severe basin]

Yeah please don't

You can probably pick up a 2080super or 2080ti for not too much more than that

Otherwise think of this: you've got about a month or so to turn your$300 into $600 and get a card that performs better than a 2080ti

[split prism]

im not sure he can get a 2080ti for a bit more than 300 bucks

[upper mural]

The minimum for 2070 super atm on eBay is 400$. 2080 super is 500$. 2080 ti is 650$. Of course prices will come down. But it will takes months due to availablility

[severe basin]

Either way, buying a card at the end of it's generation is not seeing I'd recommend

[lone pond]

I hope they go under 200 dollars even if it’s unlikely

[severe basin]

If you can't wait you can't wait, but I don't want you to be disappointed when Nvidia's 3050 that they release in February for $150 beats a 2070

All speculation of course

[upper mural]

Oh hell by then I’ve flipped 3 more systems 👀

[lone pond]

I hope the 350 is

3050*

[upper mural]

I still look at it like this. The 2070S can run a 1440 27inch display at 130-144 FPS. It’s nothing to scoff at

At max settings too usually!

[spare relic]

3050 gang

[ancient crystal]

3050 might be a really good 1080p card, assuming it exists

it might be like a "1750"

and not have RTX

that's my bet

if an actual 3050 is released, it will have to match the power of the 2060 to be even half-reasonably considered for RTX

[spare relic]

it probably would anyway

if the 3070 does actually perform better than a 2080Ti

[ancient crystal]

a 3050 would be interesting

and very price-disruptive

but it's probably a while out

[spare relic]

I want 3050 😭

[ancient crystal]

we'll see a 3060 first

i will be salty if a 3050 running on board power and beating the 2060 comes out after buying an RX 5600 XT

wait meme requested

[spare relic]

rip

[ancient crystal]

teh 5600 is good now though, and i'm gonna have money next month

so what is there to even be salty about

[upper mural]

Ok I’m buying it. You guys suck at talking me out of it.

Peace.

[ancient crystal]

buying what?

[upper mural]

🙃

[split prism]

nooooooo

[ancient crystal]

Cru4y

[split prism]

dont do it

[ancient crystal]

wait

[upper mural]

Brand new 2070 super for 300$

[dreamy dragon]

Grey#3002 has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

[ancient crystal]

oops

that's a good deal

[split prism]

wait brand new?

[ancient crystal]

i was expressing my exasperation

[split prism]

hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

[ancient crystal]

i thought you said it was broken

[split prism]

HMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM

[upper mural]

Ya it’s sealed

[split prism]

ohhh

[ancient crystal]

what is the question mark about this though

other than

wait

[upper mural]

So you dudes can’t read??

[split prism]

get it

[ancient crystal]

okay so buy it

absolutely buy it

do not waste a moment

[split prism]

there are some used 2070supers on ebay for that much

[upper mural]

👍

[split prism]

and yes i cant read

[upper mural]

I have been going threw EBay for days. None under 400$

Most 450$!!!! And they are bidding on them!

[ancient crystal]

i refuse to believe anyone here is anything but a cat typing on a keyboard

and cats can't read

[upper mural]

Lmao

[lone pond]

Can I get an explanation how a gtx 1070 is 1000$ in my country but the rx 580 is like 250$

[ancient crystal]

what is your country

[lone pond]

Romania

[ancient crystal]

okay romania is kinda hecked up with pricing in general ,i have heard this from other romanians

[split prism]

yeah pc parts are rlly cheap in the us

[lone pond]

And I also found a case with 3 fans that apparently don't even work and are only for design, it's a 60$ case

[ancient crystal]

fans just for design

hwat

[lone pond]

Apparently they barely even spin

[split prism]

thats stupid

[lone pond]

Just have rgb

[split prism]

you can get a phanteks p300 mesh for 60 dollars

with fans i think

[ancient crystal]

that is absolute butt

the case with no fans

[split prism]

yeah

i doubt it should be 60 dollars

honestly diypc cases are better

[celest wave]

?

The 300q

300a?

[split prism]

what

?

[lone pond]

Also what you guys think about this case: SI-5200. I bought it for pretty cheap and only because it was the only one that had a mounting space small enough at the back for my psu fan

[split prism]

@celest wave wdym

[celest wave]

Tbh looks choked

@split prism you were saying diypc cases were better than the 300a?

[split prism]

no

better than the case with 3 fans that dont work

[celest wave]

Ok lol

[ancient crystal]

DIYPC lmao

some of their cases look really attractive

[split prism]

yeah but there are huge problems

[ancient crystal]

but i can't think they'd be any good

[celest wave]

@ancient crystal they really have the 2012 gamer PC case feel

[ancient crystal]

Gaben you didn't wait for my reply

[split prism]

ok

sorry

[ancient crystal]

@celest wave I love that feel

also I was joking Gaben

[split prism]

lol

wooosh

[lone pond]

guys am I dumb or something cause I just can't figure out where my included fan for my psu is supposed to go for all of those cases... Like there's no where to mount. And my psu isn't modular and it comes with an annoying fan that constantly runs

[celest wave]

@ancient crystal I like futuristic looks too, it's just I like performance more

[ancient crystal]

indeed

[celest wave]

@lone pond included fane for psu?

[split prism]

you have an included fan for ur psu?

[lone pond]

yeah

[split prism]

the fan inside of ur psu?

[ancient crystal]

this is why i have a define mini C - it's a full mini tower almost but for my ITX board and looks futuristic while giving stunning performance

i didn't get a window :3

[split prism]

the nzxt 710 looks really good

[ancient crystal]

i love how fractal offers windowless cases

[lone pond]

not the psu fan it's a different wire that's connected to the psu and it has a fan

[celest wave]

@ancient crystal as much as I like Lian li cases, really just considering slapping everything into a nr600

[split prism]

and apparantly it has better airflow than most nzxt cases

hmm

[ancient crystal]

Lian-Li are a favorite of mine from back to the 90s

[split prism]

@lone pond what psu do you have

[celest wave]

@split prism it's expensive though?

[ancient crystal]

it's just too bad they're kind of stuck in the 90s

[split prism]

yeah it is pretty expensive

[celest wave]

@ancient crystal eh the new lancool stuff ain't bad

[ancient crystal]

true

[celest wave]

I like the cable covers

[lone pond]

Element bronze II 700W

[split prism]

lancool and o11 dynaamic are really good

[ancient crystal]

i just don't like RGB nonsense

like it irritates me

[split prism]

really

[ancient crystal]

like i said my case doesn't even have a window

[split prism]

the lancool is really clean

wow

[celest wave]

Like the panels you out over your cables clean up a build

[ancient crystal]

the internals of my PC are not a thing to behold, they are boring

the cables are managed well

it's just like

i don't like showing it

[split prism]

@lone pond im not sure how to mount that fan

i assume its included as an intake fane

[lone pond]

Well on old cheap cases is a space at the back

[ancient crystal]

the aesthetic of the black monolith is pretty rad imo

[lone pond]

Small enough for the fan

And I think it's exhaust

For the cpu

[ancient crystal]

those 40mm fans

lmao

remember those

[split prism]

oh my

thats a throwback

[celest wave]

Has these pretty nice panels you place over cables to hide them

[ancient crystal]

oh that's beautiful

[lone pond]

Alright so what can I maybe do

[split prism]

woah a space grey case

[celest wave]

Because they have two glass panels

[split prism]

that looks nice

[ancient crystal]

apple!!!

make a hackintosh in that case

it will be on brand

[celest wave]

? Its the lancool 2 lol

[split prism]

rlly

[celest wave]

Yeah

[split prism]

the lancool two is black or white right

[celest wave]

Cap pulled from Steve's vid

[split prism]

theres a grey version?

ahhhhh

cop

[celest wave]

No that's the black

[split prism]

rlly

[celest wave]

Yeh

[split prism]

ok it must be the lighting

[celest wave]

Maybe

[split prism]

@lone pond you can try to stuff the fan under the psu shroud

along with the rest of the cables

cause its pretty small right?

[celest wave]

Btw why we talking about his case and stuff in the gpu channel

[split prism]

true

lol

[lone pond]

wdym under

[split prism]

we are in the graphics card channel

we should move

[lone pond]

ye

[split prism]

to #cases-psu-and-cooling

sorry mods

[dry jetty]

is 3090 better than A100 in AI

[hardy hare]

What do you guys think about the 3080 availability?

Will it go out of stock fast or can I watch reviews and then get it?

Or will I have to try to get it right on release?

[split prism]

idk about how the 3080 will sell but i think that the 3070 will sell out fast

considering its 500 dollars

[sacred stone]

Imma bet that the 3080 is gonna go out fast

[fervent obsidian]

i'm going to go for a 3070, was planning on getting a 3080 but a little much for my budget

[sacred stone]

For one, the time that the card goes on sale ppl already know

[hardy hare]

So what would you recommend I do, wait or hunt it on release

[sacred stone]

I mean do you care for AIB cards?

[hardy hare]

Aib?

[sacred stone]

asus, msi, gigabyte

board partner cards

[hardy hare]

Oh I dont mind if they offer similar or better cooling or good aesthetics

[sacred stone]

They're typically better just need an extra 50-100 dollars

[hardy hare]

Oh ok

[sacred stone]

6AM Pacific is when FE cards go live just fyi if you're trying to buy a FE card

17th obvs

[hardy hare]

Is Pacific ahead of central or behind?

[sacred stone]

behind

3:53 pacific rn

[hardy hare]

That time works

Do the aib cards typically go oos or is it mostly the fe?

[sacred stone]

Do aib cards sell out?

[hardy hare]

Yes

[sacred stone]

Yeah but it's hard to say since alot of these aib cards are extremely ugly lol

[hardy hare]

Lol

[sacred stone]

evga for example, sure some people dont mind the red tint on it but what the hell

[hardy hare]

Do they only produce limited stock or will they restock once sold out?

[sacred stone]

they restock

for the 20 series FE cards I think it took em a month

I could be completely wrong

[hardy hare]

Oh ok

[sacred stone]

i mean hell, see if ur local best buy has one

[hardy hare]

Cause I'm planning to order my parts for my build on the 24th for my birthday, just wanted to see if I needed to order the GPU ahead of time or not

[sacred stone]

so you haven't ordered any pc parts atm?

[hardy hare]

No

Is that bad?

[sacred stone]

no not at all

prices are fluctuating like hell right now

[hardy hare]

Oh

[sacred stone]

plus if u order all ur parts way before you get your hands on ur gpu and find out that some parts are DOA you can't RMA it

[hardy hare]

Wym?

[sacred stone]

so if you buy your parts too early and can't test out the parts to see if anything is wrong, you can't rma it

[hardy hare]

Oh ok

[sacred stone]

essentially you'd want to aim to get everything at the same time to see if everything is good to go

[hardy hare]

I see

Are there any parts which I should order ahead of time

Bc of long shipping or availability?

[sacred stone]

depends on what product you're buying

you're gonna have to go through all the parts you want to buy yourself and see

there is a shortage of psu's tho

[hardy hare]

I heard about that

[sacred stone]

we're definitely straying away from channel topic here lol

[hardy hare]

We started out on the right topic but now are staying away

What channel can we continue?

If ur able to

[sacred stone]

probs #building-and-recc-chat

[hardy hare]

Makes sense

[sly wolf]

Is a 750 ti worth 50

[unreal crystal]

@sly wolf check Ebay to see what they go for.

[ancient crystal]

anyone here have an RX 5600 XT?

curious about someone's actual experiences with the card because i have a hard time finding actual experiences other than "this card is perfect" and "BAD BAD AMD AMD IS BAD"

like just trashing the brand rather than the individual item so it makes you think there's inherent bias there

or maybe the reviews were early

(because i'll acknowledge there were problems earlier on with both drivers and vBIOS)

[split prism]

@ancient crystal my friend has one and he says that he has no problems with it

[ancient crystal]

thanks

it appears the problems are resolved

they were very bad at the beginning

black screens, rebooting

[split prism]

yeah he did just get it 2 months ago

[ancient crystal]

but, never buy an AMD card at launch

worst idea

[split prism]

so after the driver issues i think

but atm he says that he hasn't had any problems with it

[ancient crystal]

there shouldn't be any

[split prism]

yep

if you wanna buy it go for it

[ancient crystal]

AMD hasn't hecked up the drivers that i am aware of

i will probably

since the price is amicable

and the performance hovers around 2060 to even touching 2060 Super sometimes

from what i'm reading

[split prism]

yeah it does

i would look into used cards on ebay if i were you

[ancient crystal]

this tells me, as a poor person, that value for money is important

[split prism]

i've been seeing some really good deals lately

[ancient crystal]

also if i bought used i'd just get an RX 5700

because better card

[split prism]

true

[ancient crystal]

1080s are pretty cheap

also

$220-250 at times

[undone totem]

5700/5000 series drivers were effed up last Dec to early Jan

as well as my Fury

[ancient crystal]

i mean pascal is so good nvidia is actually telling people to upgrade to 30x0 because it's finally better than pascal

which i find hilarious

[undone totem]

HOWEVER, amusingly, my friend had graphical glitches in Death Stranding cutscenes on his weeks old drivers on his 2080Ti whereas i didn't with my Mar or Apr AMD drivers

[ancient crystal]

it seems like AMD just hecks everything up on occasion eh

[split prism]

amd's cpus arent bad

[ancient crystal]

CPUs are good

[split prism]

but im not a fan of their gpus

[undone totem]

AMD Master Race

[ancient crystal]

i have an R7 2700

it's a beast CPU even now

[undone totem]

i wanna get a 3900X as soon as my taxes come back

for AV1 encoding

[split prism]

ik that the 5700xt

compares

with the 2070

[wicked idol]

Ryzen 5 3600X and RTX 3070 good combo?

[split prism]

we dont know yet

wait until benchmarks come out

[undone totem]

i wanna get a 5600XT just to prove to the naysayers re: AMD drivers

or, i'll bxtch if there are issues, too

and file support requests

[split prism]

@wicked idol there might be some bottleneck

but we won't know until it releases

[ancient crystal]

wait.jpg

[wicked idol]

Yea but with a budget of 1200 I don’t think I can fit in a Ryzen 7

[split prism]

you might be able to fit a 2700x

[wicked idol]

Ryzen 7 2700x?

[split prism]

yes

it is a generation behind

[ancient crystal]

i would not recommend going back a generation

even though i have one myself

[split prism]

it wouldn't be bad

[wicked idol]

Is it better then the Ryzen 5 3600x

[ancient crystal]

well, a 2700

it has more cores

it works with ECC RAM

[wicked idol]

The only problem is that, I don’t know what cooler it comes with

[undone totem]

3600/3600X is better at video encoding but slower at blender

[ancient crystal]

wraith spire probably

[undone totem]

by like a couple percent

[split prism]

it has a spire cooler i think

wraith spire

[ancient crystal]

the X all do

[wicked idol]

O

[ancient crystal]

i use a hyper T2

it has the AMD clip

which i enjoy

[undone totem]

ew @ hyper t2

CM?

[ancient crystal]

yes, got a problem?

my CPU is very cool

[undone totem]

i graduated to larger, quieter coolers 😂

[ancient crystal]

buh buh buh i graduated

[undone totem]

Ninja 4 + Noctua fan i stole off my U12S TR4/SP3 on a 3600

[split prism]

i have not graduated from my wraith stealth

[ancient crystal]

my define case works to block the sound

i literally can hear nothing from my computer

[undone totem]

i have a ridiculous Grand Kama Cross 3 on my 2400G (daily driver)

[ancient crystal]

it has all of the panels, no window

[undone totem]

and a U14S on my 1700X encoding box

[lone pond]

Will the 10700k bottleneck with the news cards?

[brisk flame]

dont worry about it

wait till your ready to buy a system, then balance the budget you have across the entire system based on what you need your pc to do

because "bottleneck" isnt a yes or no answer. the question i would follow up with is "bottleneck what?"

[ancient crystal]

oh also pipboy

what about waiting for benchmarks with various CPUs

that's bound to be a thing

you can see if a 10700k will affect performance or not

[somber vine]

you wont bottleneck the 30 series cards from nvidia your welcome.

[brisk flame]

looking at benchmarks isn't gonna magically increase his budget

and you sound stupid using the word bottleneck ten vi, it's a stupid, meaningless term.

if you're so confident about your answer how about you back it up with some facts, eh?

show me how hardware can "bottleneck"

[slim talon]

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[forest locust]

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[slim talon]

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[brisk flame]

[granite juniper]

[ancient crystal]

what is even

[undone totem]

Intel's CPU suffixes

( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)

[ancient crystal]

also @brisk flame to be clear i was suggesting to this person they look at the benchmarks in order to get information. not to inform their choices

i look at benchmarks that have nothing to do with my actual purchases sometimes

though not often

[sacred stone]

Guess this is just for those who haven't seen this lol

[cold stream]

CHONK

[sacred stone]

The card isn't mounted onto the motherboard, it's the motherboard that's mounted onto the card

[severe basin]

Lol that's true that motherboard is like an inch off the ground

[violet dock]

hope you have a gpu anti sag bracket for that

or it might damage the card if it gets jolted

[severe basin]

Yeah I think that's a necessity

But now I really want that exact setup with a 10700k

[violet dock]

its either that or theres going to have to be a new design standard for card mounting systems

[severe basin]

And I don't even like Asus cards typically

[violet dock]

that allows a 3rd point of contact

[severe basin]

I mean 3 8 pin cables

That's enough to suspend a much heavier object by the cables alone

[cold stream]

why a 10700k and not a 3900x smdh

[severe basin]

Might look weird in your case, having your PCIe cables drop down from the top of the case

Because Intel does audio latency better than amd

[cold stream]

I've never even begun to hear that be an issue

[lone pond]

Ok I'll rephrase will I be able to get the most performance possible out of a 3080 at 1080p with a 10700k

[undone totem]

was going to say "probably most of it" (it's not a 10900K) ...but then again, it's PCIe 4.0

so we'll have to see

for many games, tho, you're talking 200 vs 220 fps

[lone pond]

I mean the 10900k and 10700k are almost identical performance

And what is pci4? Intel motherboards are not

[cold stream]

Ooooooo I forgot

[lone pond]

I'm assuming it will be fine
People are saying 3700x will handle a 3080 which is slower in games

[cold stream]

I honestly don't know how much more you'd need than a 3700x

I'd think it would be $100 per 10 fps past that point

[wind sierra]

Would you guys get the RX 6000 series or the RTX 30 series?

[cold stream]

Wait for benchmarks

I'm betting nvidia though

[lone pond]

Wait? Only if you will

[wicked ferry]

im still gaming with an nvidia gt 750

[solemn panther]

Rip

[lone pond]

I am gaming on intel hd 250 which gets me 20 frames on minecraft at 720p

[craggy hornet]

Don't really feel like looking back through the comments, so is anybody interested in what AMD is going to be offering?

"The silence is your answer"

[spice prawn]

@cold stream I've never even begun to hear that be an issue <- its not an issue for a lot of consumers.

@craggy hornet short answer is yes.

[craggy hornet]

I'm just taking a wait and see approach. But secretly, I hope they give Nvidia a run for their money

[granite juniper]

everybody is :)

[gray narwhal]

Hey y’all what do u think gtx 1650 or rx 560 low profile

[severe basin]

So. Rumors of a 16gb navi2 card that performs between a 3070 and a 3080 for $550

[brisk flame]

amd better announce it soon tho

before they lose all their market to hungry gamers

[severe basin]

If that turns out to be true, it won't knock anyone's socks off but that is solid competition

[brisk flame]

who gonna buy up the 3080 and 3070

[severe basin]

I think they will announce before the 3070 drops

[brisk flame]

they really should announce something at least before the 3080 drops

[severe basin]

From what I gather from this and other forums demand will be very high

[brisk flame]

nvidia may adjust their price and/or amd will get more people to wait for their cards

[severe basin]

Wouldn't be surprised if they both sold out their stock within a week

There's a pc builder on a FB group that I'm in that said his supplier can't get him a single 3080.

And he usually has new parts about two weeks out from release

[brisk flame]

huh

[severe basin]

Yeah I'm hoping this isn't the case, but I could see people scalping their cards on ebay for double the msrp until stock levels out

[craggy hornet]

I'm sorry to say it, but I don't think there will be anything good coming from Nvidia price wise. People keep saying that it's so much better price to performance with the 30 series. Yeah, in a capitalistic society, that's how that sh*t works. Nvidia ain't knocking my socks off with anything. The way I see it is as more of the same. Can AMD impress me? That has yet to be seen.

[severe basin]

I'm with you on that batty

Nvidia raised prices with the 2000 series and when they left those prices alone this time no one seemed to care.

But I remember not too long ago the 1080ti was $700

[trim crown]

I just hope amd has something cool and different besides their own style of ray tracing

I want more of a reason to buy amd other than pricing...

[lone pond]

[ancient crystal]

decided to hold off on GPU this coming month

buy other technology items

such as cool computer parts

want to wait for prices to sink

because the 30x0 series will make prices sink

2060 won't be as exciting of a proposition with the 3070 given it's $170 more and a bit of saving or extra spending will get you a much better card

so, price go down

[quick pawn]

Theres something Im confused about

The rumored 3070 super/ti is thought to have 16 gbs of vram but the 3080 would only have 10? How would the two compare

[spice prawn]

i have the perfect answer for you

do you see the reviews?

[sonic mural]

Rumored

[spice prawn]

no? you dont see the reviews? neither do we :)

we simply dont know yet.

[sonic mural]

Rumored does not = confirmed

[spare relic]

when the perfect a nswer is a question 😩

[spice prawn]

its a question that deserves a silly answer

[quick pawn]

It’s really not lmfao

I’m not saying will the “3070ti to be better?”

[spice prawn]

we dont know how extra memory will impact the architecture

we simply dont know.

[sonic mural]

Has the ti variant even been confirmed?

[spice prawn]

no, it has not.

[sonic mural]

Exactly

[spice prawn]

there is a lenovo part listing.

[sonic mural]

Oh is there?

[spice prawn]

which we dont know the actual reason for

[spare relic]

dang lenovo

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Lenovo suks

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I curse them

my computer is Lenovo

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Chromebooks ftw

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they make nice workstations.