graphics-cards

[odd siren]

Yeah cooler and psu you could definitely do better on

[wraith wagon]

179 for the case

[odd siren]

Case is fine

I dig a north

Lol

?

[wraith wagon]

Huh?

[odd siren]

Fractal north is an atx case

I have a motherboard suggestion at half the price just as good, but it's mATX

[wraith wagon]

Some people say thw AK620 is the best cpu cooler for the 13600k kf

[wraith wagon]

Which one?

[odd siren]

B760m pg riptide

It's called a b760

But it has overclocking and built like a z790

So it's really a z790 pretty much

140$

[wraith wagon]

Check this out on @bitter bear:ASRock B760M PG Riptide LGA 1700 DDR5 Micro ATX Motherboard https://www.newegg.ca/p/N82E16813162107?Item=N82E16813162107&Source=socialshare&cm_mmc=snc-social-_-sr-_-13-162-107-_-10062023

This?

[odd siren]

Ye but there's a cheaper place to buy it

We don't stick to newegg all the time here

Follow the best prices everywhere

[wraith wagon]

It was the first thing that popped up

[odd siren]

Ok so the psu I thought you could get cheaper but ig canada 850W are gross pricing anyway

But you can use a 750w with your pc so I'll put that in as a suggestion

[vital oriole]

i'd step down to 750w tbf

[odd siren]

Ye

https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/list/F96Zwg

Have a look at this and cross compare

See if you see anything cheaper

It's all the same performance

100% in everything

Things I'd recommend swapping are, mobo, ram cooler definitely

Ssd if you can

PSU optionally

But that said it's well balanced

That open box 968 4070 ti if you could pick it up would be an amazing buy btw

This is just a suggestion tho

If it means you can save hundreds by returning some of this, waiting a week or so, ordering this all instead?

I'd say it's worth doing

[wraith wagon]

Is something wrong with the AK620?

[odd siren]

Yes

Well, no but yes

Ak620 is great

Amazing

However

It's not worth 89

It's worth 50 at most

💀

The peerless assassin is as good or better for 41

Instead of 89

With all the money you save here, you could put that instead towards a really nice pc monitor

[wraith wagon]

I already have everything AHHHHHHH it might be cheaper but people keep recommending different things i have changed it 11 times already

[odd siren]

I can tell

[wraith wagon]

I already have a monitor

[odd siren]

The list looks, kinda ok? But it's not totally price optimised

Ima say you won't really go wrong with what you have at all, nothing stands out

But you could do better value is all

I'm not seeing anything that is objectively bad

So imo I'd just think about it, if you want to do one more leg to save a few more dollars

It's gonna be kinda worth it

Few hundred in the bank

[wraith wagon]

I just don't want to touch anything because I was playing on getting everything before the 9th but that is not happening and I really just don't want to touch anything so i don't mess up more

[odd siren]

Ye, it's alright

Go at the pace you can manage my guy

Don't rush into it

It's going to be a great pc whichever way you go about this

[odd siren]

Callback to this

[wraith wagon]

I just want to get my gpu and not have to think about it for a bit

[odd siren]

Lol fair enough

It's good that you sought advice tho

[wraith wagon]

I might go for that or bestbuy

[odd siren]

Ye the best buy deal looks quite good if you can get it

They don't pay me to be helpful here so newegg can suck it

[wraith wagon]

I have asked way to many people to the point where you don't know what to pick because some say this is bad or some will say this is good

[odd siren]

Fair enough

I can give a bit of a breakdown on my reasoning

We talked about the gpu

13600kf is basically all you need for top tier intel performance

[wraith wagon]

I was going to go for a prebuild so I don't have to deal with windows stuff but they add 1000 for no reason

[odd siren]

Right? Prebuilts are terrible value rn

B760m pg riptide has a bclk chip so you can pseudo overclock almost the same way as a z790/z690

It basically breaks the rules from intel

Has a huge beefy power design

[wraith wagon]

I do plan on buying more ssds in the future so got any good priced ones?

[odd siren]

Better than some z690/z790

Ye

Mp33

A60

P41 plus

Mp34

Uh

670p

I'll look in a sec

I picked the xs70 cos it's basically sn850/sn850x/980 pro tier without spending the 980 pro price

$20 cheaper

Fractal north is a beautiful case. It's far from the best value

Likely never will be, but it's great if you want an aesthetic

[wraith wagon]

I went with th WD because i was told was they are fastest and it was good quality and it was 50% off

[odd siren]

Yeah 50% off what they used to be

Foxxy was right the 850x is normally around that price already

It was one of those fake sales shops do now sadly

(it's not legally wrong, just morally disgusting)

[wraith wagon]

Ya my desk I am getting has the same coloured wood on the front panel and I like the look of it

[odd siren]

Damn, wood desk? That's gonna be nice

Lastly the psu

Rm850e is popularly considered "a tier" for it's great deal of overkill inside it

[wraith wagon]

Check this out on @bitter bear:WD_BLACK SN850X NVMe M.2 2280 1TB PCI-Express 4.0 x4 Internal Solid State Drive (SSD) WDS100T2X0E https://www.newegg.ca/western-digital-1tb-black-sn850x-nvme/p/N82E16820250243?Item=N82E16820250243&Source=socialshare&cm_mmc=snc-social-_-sr-_-20-250-243-_-10062023

[odd siren]

But for 159? It's a bit of a pass, your specs could run on a good 650w (we normally recommend a bit extra on top) so I suggested an RM750e

[wraith wagon]

Ya thus says 52 % off

[odd siren]

They have a udgm 750W for 100 but I figure you want a bit better than "b tier"

And not associated with the brand that is exploding gigglebyte lmao

[odd siren]

Here's what I mean, these are all sn850x 1tb

[wraith wagon]

I went with 850 to be safe same say u should go 1000 but I think u will be fine

[odd siren]

It's not really 50% off when everyone's doing it

850 is really overkill

I ran a 13900k and 4090 off a 1000w

You don't need 850w for half the power draw

(it was a good 1000w but the point still stands)

750w is more than ample, 4070ti is like a nominal 250-300W power all day

And a 13600kf is in games 80-90W?

[wraith wagon]

I know I don't need this much but it does not hurt if I was to ever upgrade a part

[odd siren]

Much lower than 750 or 850 lol

Oh yeah for sure

If you want to keep the rm850e go for it

Like I said nothing is objectively bad here

But if you want to save a little cos it's not necessary then you could swap is all

[wraith wagon]

I might plan on getting a 13700k or maybe a 14 gen in the far future IDK

[odd siren]

Hmmm

13600k is about as high as I'd go on a air cooler tbh

[wraith wagon]

But I will be fine for a while

[odd siren]

Ye

Anyway, that's all my reasoning for the suggestions

[wraith wagon]

So I won't worry about that for now

[odd siren]

Lemme have a look at cheap ssd's rq

https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/product/64MTwP/team-mp33-1-tb-m2-2280-nvme-solid-state-drive-tm8fp6001t0c101

https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/product/drwypg/silicon-power-p34a60-1-tb-m2-2280-pcie-30-x4-nvme-solid-state-drive-su001tbp34a60m28ca

https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/product/C3xbt6/team-mp33-2-tb-m2-2280-nvme-solid-state-drive-tm8fp6002t0c101

Not really seeing any sata ssds that could be worth it

Maybe a silicon power a58? But I'm not familiar with it

A55 and a60 are decent, not sure about a58

[wraith wagon]

So double check. So the Zotac will be fine right?

[odd siren]

Ye ofc

[wraith wagon]

Ok

[odd siren]

The only thing

only thing

It may have

Is 100% fan might be a bit loud

[wraith wagon]

I just hear so much from other people I keep going back and forth

[odd siren]

But you won't ever need 100% fan

4070 ti's are literal fridges

It should be happy running under 40% fan tbh

Which will be quiet

[wraith wagon]

I was told not giga because of pci problems and zotac for bad build quality and stuff

[odd siren]

Pci problems?

[wraith wagon]

Something like that

[odd siren]

Nothing comes to mind? Not Sure what they were talking about

I'm familiar with why a lot of people bring up zotac, but that's really older gen stuff

Much like how people say msi ventus is rubbish but this new ventus stuff it works fine

[wraith wagon]

Pcb cracks

[odd siren]

Shouldn't

No pcie should ever crack if you build a pc properly

[wraith wagon]

Idk people say not because of that

[odd siren]

Sounds like they had a bad gpu mount or gpu sag

You can fix that with a gpu support bracket

Made of anything

[wraith wagon]

Reports from various users have substantiated the presence of physical damage in Gigabyte graphics cards, all indicating a design flaw leading to cracks in the same area near the PCI interface. Once the PCB cracks, the PCIe lanes are irreparably damaged, rendering the graphics card incapable of transferring data.

[odd siren]

Literally lego works to hold up a gpu n

[wraith wagon]

Idk

[odd siren]

Ohhhhhh

I remember this

God this was ages ago for 30 series pcb cracks

GA102 gaming oc's

I remember this

[wraith wagon]

This is from June 11 23

[odd siren]

When they told you? Or the article?

[wraith wagon]

Both 30 and 40 series

[odd siren]

Oooo ok I'm reading this now

[wraith wagon]

It says and people told me not to get one because of this

[odd siren]

Yeah I see

I did not know this happened on 40 series too

Ok I'll remember that

https://www.tomshardware.com/news/gigabyte-gpu-design-details-emerge-about-pcb-cracking

Leave the article here for later

[vital oriole]

a bracket or something to brace the gpu will eliminate the risk

[odd siren]

But yeah this problem they're talking about, gets fixed with a support bracket

[vital oriole]

and building the pc with it laid sideways to be safe

[odd siren]

Ye

It's quite simple, just something like a stick, rod, stack of lego on the far right side of the gpu when it's in the case, holding it up? Prevents that sort of issue occuring

[wraith wagon]

Now after I get my pc acembled I have to deal with windows which I don't really want too

[odd siren]

Lol

There are ways to save with windows too 👀

I'm not allowed to say here

[wraith wagon]

I can get it with out a license but I would be limited in some things

Ya those sites selling them for a very low price

[vital oriole]

there's ways like felix mentioned

[odd siren]

Yea ok you know what I'm talking about blazer

[vital oriole]

you don't need to go to those sites, just hit one of us up in the dm when you do need to activate lol

[odd siren]

We aren't allowed to talk about it

[wraith wagon]

20 buck hmmmm

The animal

[odd siren]

Or this, and you mean hit me up

Don't ask a mod for it

[vital oriole]

oh true

[odd siren]

That's inviting trouble @vital oriole lol

[wraith wagon]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/588979185687461908/1107824404978729080/5974D71E-2730-4111-8637-D8169855C6FB.gif

[vital oriole]

im a mod

[odd siren]

Kekw

[vital oriole]

i got too used to this

[odd siren]

Fair enough

[wraith wagon]

Caught in 4k

[odd siren]

https://tenor.com/view/anime-meme-gif-24380198

[vital oriole]

lmao

caught red handed on my tuf

[wraith wagon]

I have been using my new monitor to void the laptop bottle neck i did not even know about such a thing until I got around 150 160 fpwhen I normally got 60 70 on the laptop monitor

[odd siren]

Caught by the other tuf user

💀

[vital oriole]

yeah

laptops with no mux has that perf hit

[odd siren]

You're gonna enjoy life so much more off that laptop, that's basically a business laptop nowadays

[vital oriole]

since the igpu does the display, dgpu is bottlenecked by it

that and increased latency decreasing fps

[wraith wagon]

1650 and a i7 9750H will be no more soon

[vital oriole]

one time i was trying to shop for a 1650 laptop

but mom gave me opportunity to get 4050 instead

talk about unexpected upgrades

[wraith wagon]

Bruhg i got mine free :)

New

[vital oriole]

mine is also free and bought new

[odd siren]

That's quite nice for new

[vital oriole]

only having it for 3 months rn

[wraith wagon]

Because I get a type of funding

[vital oriole]

grant?

[wraith wagon]

Autism:) well I am not really that far on the spectrum I am right on the border for it

[vital oriole]

aha

[odd siren]

You'd be surprised how many people are these days

[wraith wagon]

16000 if we would have found out earlier but 6000 now

A year for computers is only laptops

Only 1500

But it is a pain to get anything with it but I could get a bunch of stress balls because why not

[wraith wagon]

All of my friends 2006 are autistic it like it was the autistic year IDK

[spare relic]

https://tenor.com/view/anime-tambourine-smiling-gif-14796425

[wraith wagon]

https://tenor.com/view/donald-duck-thats-me-only-me-gif-13516013

[spare relic]

https://tenor.com/view/pokemon-ditto-same-feeling-is-mutual-i-agree-gif-4483001

[wraith wagon]

If you don't mind could you DM these to me thank you

[odd siren]

DMs are closed my guy sorry

This is all I needed to see. FSR 3.having the chops of nearly being DLSS frame gen but instead of increasing latency, it reduces it

Nvidia frame gen is already dead tech

[keen nacelle]

that's hilarious

[odd siren]

They only have AI left now

That's literally all they have left and 40 series is disgustingly bad at it

AI and bloody blender

[spare relic]

gonna dm felix rn

https://tenor.com/view/ping_hub-discord-ping-spam-gif-19386667

[livid idol]

Plus no issues with UI since it's already decoupled from the generated frames

[odd siren]

Next we need an anti-lag refresh

Radeon boost do more brrr

:deviousfroge:

[wraith wagon]

Oh ok

I will just copy them over after school

[raven wharf]

whats the amd equivalent

[keen nacelle]

6800xt closest

Maybe 7700xt? Not sure where that places

[raven wharf]

is 6700XT near that kind of

thats the recommended specs for city skylines 2

[spare relic]

That's near like 2080 super

3060 ti

3070

[median delta]

@odd siren thoughts on this laptop from what we talked about like a week ago?

MSI Stealth 17 Studio Laptop: Intel Core i9-13900H, GeForce RTX 4070, 17.3" QHD 240Hz 3ms, 16GB DDR5, 1TB NVMe SSD, Thunderbolt 4, Cooler Boost Trinity+, Win 11 Home: Core Black A13VG-019US https://a.co/d/iQFhZ0I

just started looking for laptops but its hard to find all the criteria + the laptops have reviews

[keen nacelle]

Msi isn't great for 40 series, that 4070 likely performs worse than most 4060s

And 4070 generally isn't worth it in laptops, its not far better than 4060

But msi has very low wattage for their 40 series mobile gpus

[median delta]

i see

[keen nacelle]

So like 60w 4070 vs 100w 4060

Also if you're taking the laptop around a lot, id go for 15.6in or smaller personally, 17" is huge on a laptop imo

But if you want the extra screen size then go for it

[median delta]

i would probably be setting it down for long periods of time, not like super mobile travel

but yeah 17 is big

[keen nacelle]

Ah alr

[median delta]

the biggest thing for me was the accurate colors + a good gpu for gaming

[keen nacelle]

I thought I'd hate anything smaller than 15", but my laptop is I think 14" and it's really nice for school

[median delta]

oh nice nice

[keen nacelle]

I'd just go for the 4060 though, foxy could explain better than me why the 4070 sucks

Or atleast more detailed

[median delta]

i was actually looking for a 4080 but this just came up so i sent it

[keen nacelle]

Ah

I've no clue how the 4080 is

[median delta]

not a lot of dci-p3s with good gaming stuff too

at least from what im seeing

or they just dont advertise the colors

[keen nacelle]

I mean, there's this https://www.ebay.com/itm/295671743764?mkcid=16&mkevt=1&mkrid=711-127632-2357-0&ssspo=VbCS6q0NQ6a&sssrc=4429486&ssuid=r8em-zv_qyc&var=&widget_ver=artemis&media=COPY

Screen might not be the best, as well as battery life

[median delta]

yeah sadly the screen is pretty important for me as a filmmaker / photographer

gotta have good colors

so it limits choices

[steel tide]

I'm very sorry for interrupting, where would I find a topic on power supplies? Is there one?

[median delta]

i dont need dcip3 100 but just close

[median delta]

best chats might be #overclocking or this chat, since theres no dedicated one

not exactly sure tho i dont come here often

[keen nacelle]

#cases-psu-and-cooling

[steel tide]

Thank you.

[keen nacelle]

I'll help you over there in a sec

[median delta]

oh wait psu xd didnt see that

thanks bacca

[keen nacelle]

The screen might be fine, im not sure

I dont know anything about the exact panel

[median delta]

yeah i dont think it’s listed anywhere on that link

ill look at other spots to see if it says anything

[keen nacelle]

Also as another option btw
https://www.walmart.com/ip/Acer-Predator-Helios-16-PH16-71-948L-Intel-Core-i9-13th-Gen-13900HX-2-20GHz-NVIDIA-GeForce-RTX-4080-Laptop-GPU-32-GB-DDR5-1-TB-PCIe-4-SSD-16-WQXGA-24/3462901695?clickid=VcpXLOV8cxyNUE8zH91MswszUkFUojSTE0LBwY0&irgwc=1&sourceid=imp_VcpXLOV8cxyNUE8zH91MswszUkFUojSTE0LBwY0&veh=aff&wmlspartner=imp_2553023&affiliates_ad_id=565706&campaign_id=9383&sharedid=

[median delta]

this actually seems really good, dcip3 99% too which is great

thank you!!

[keen nacelle]

Yeah no problem, I'm still weary of heat with a 4080, but maybe that's why I see a lot more 17" laptops with 4080s/4090s, for more cooling

[median delta]

every laptop is probably gonna be terrible for cooling especially with powerful insides

[keen nacelle]

Fair enough

[median delta]

but most of the time ill have it on a desk so i think i should be okay

[keen nacelle]

Even my 3050 ti laptop uses to get up to 80c gaming

[median delta]

as long as its not loud

[keen nacelle]

Not that that's that hot for a laptop

[median delta]

whats hot for a laptop?

my pc’s gpu gets like 70 i think

[keen nacelle]

If it does have temp issues, felix or someone else could guide you through applying liquid metal

Once it hits 90c I'd put some effort into bringing Temps down, but 95c is where you should be concerned for laptops I believe

[median delta]

ah okay sounds good

[cyan vault]

I've noticed my temps getting a little wonky. Is 60C normal with 90-100C hotspot odd on a 7900 XTX?

Makes my fans go crazy, but only on a few games.

Like, party animals is killing it but RDR2 max settings is fine

[random walrus]

do you mean 60C at idle? or under load gpu core reading is 60C and theres a 30-40C delta

[cyan vault]

Under load. Idle its like 30-50 respectively

[random walrus]

ok

30-40C difference seems a little high to me, could be the paste/thermal pads are a bit off somehow. I don't know for sure though

my 3060Ti sees a ~15C difference under load but a 7900XTX is a higher power card

[cyan vault]

Oh. I had it at 15% extra power lol

Now its 71-91

[odd siren]

Paste could be drying out, keep watching it to see if it gets more skewed

[stiff zodiac]

any 5700xt gang here

[spare relic]

In a parallel universe where Kenzie gave me his

[keen nacelle]

My partners build has one

[normal hawk]

I have one that's not being used right now

[wraith wagon]

Would it be worth getting the OC version of the 4070 ti like the Asus tuf or is this just fine? https://www.bestbuy.ca/en-ca/product/zotac-gaming-nvidia-geforce-rtx-4070-ti-trinity-oc-12gb-gddr6x-video-card/16649537

[keen nacelle]

Oc is a maybe 2% difference, any gpu can oc it doesn't have to be labeled oc

Normally less than 2%

[wraith wagon]

So not worth the money anyways is the one from best buy good here is the one I was taking about https://www.newegg.ca/asus-geforce-rtx-4070-ti-tuf-rtx4070ti-o12g-gaming/p/N82E16814126606?Item=N82E16814126606

[keen nacelle]

Cheapest one you can find

If you're just gaming I'd recommend a 7900xt or 7900xtx over the 4070 ti though

4070 ti really bad value atm

Only nvidia gpus that are atleast decent priced are 4070 and 4090

[wraith wagon]

The 7900xt and xtx is more expensive here IDK why and I already have my other parts ready for the 4070 ti just waiting to buy

[keen nacelle]

Ahh alright normally they're cheaper

How much is the 4070 ti?

[wraith wagon]

which on the Zotac?

1039

cad

and 7900 xt is 1142

[keen nacelle]

Wow, cheapest 7900xt is $1120

Crazy

[wraith wagon]

and 1300 and some for the XTX

[keen nacelle]

There's this one for $1000
https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/product/VgtLrH/gigabyte-windforce-oc-geforce-rtx-4070-ti-12-gb-video-card-gv-n407twf3oc-12gd

[wraith wagon]

I don't really want to go with GIGA because of the PCI proplem

[keen nacelle]

Pci problem?

[wraith wagon]

they have the same problem has the 30 series https://www.tomshardware.com/news/gigabyte-gpu-design-details-emerge-about-pcb-cracking

So I am thinking about going Asus or Zotac I might just go with Zotac because it is cheaper

[vital oriole]

it's not a concern as long as you brace the gpu

[keen nacelle]

^^

My 3060 ti without even having a pcie lock is fine, though obviously it's much lighter than a 3080/3090

Three slot gpu though

Or maybe 2.5 I forget

[wraith wagon]

I did buy a Tuf but Newegg went brrr and it it double clicked when I order it so AHHH so I have to wait for the refund it takes 3-5 business days I think right

[wraith wagon]

I do know that the Zotac 4070 ti has a Brace thingy IDK about the tuf and since you have TUF in your name do you know?

[livid idol]

It depends but I have always been refunded without issue before

[vital oriole]

don't think it does

but really any gpus would be best off using some brace

4070ti is still heavy

[wraith wagon]

I was worried at first I bought it on wed and have to see if I get it tomorrow so IDK

[vital oriole]

i don't use tuf products in the form of pc parts lel

i use the laptop

[wraith wagon]

So this is going to be my choice then https://www.bestbuy.ca/en-ca/product/zotac-gaming-nvidia-geforce-rtx-4070-ti-trinity-oc-12gb-gddr6x-video-card/16649537

[wraith wagon]

But but you have "TUF" in your name :(

oops wrong link

Well its my B-day tomorrow so let see if Newegg will gift me with my money back tomorrow

[wind sable]

Also fantastech starts tmr or day after tmr, you get more deals then

[odd siren]

Wtf coolermaster

Chad CoolerMaster doing the rgb software for mba amd cards

[wraith wagon]

So tomorrow is not a business day right?

[random walrus]

Why wouldn't it be?

[wraith wagon]

Opps I meant today because its thanks giving

[random walrus]

thanksgiving isn't till november but yeah today is columbus day/indigenous peoples day. It's a federal holiday but most private businesses don't acknowledge it afaik

[wraith wagon]

I am in Canada we have it in October

[random walrus]

huh

[wraith wagon]

which today is Thanksgiving

[wraith wagon]

2nd Monday of October. Germany is the 1st Mon of Oct and it goes down the line to US on the Tues the 4th of November I believe something like that

[balmy magnet]

US is Nov 23

[lone pond]

hi. my little brother has this office pc that is fairly new
link here: https://www.bestbuy.com/site/hp-pavilion-desktop-amd-ryzen-7-16gb-memory-1tb-ssd-natural-silver/6477687.p?skuId=6477687
and he wants to play games like cs2, fortnite, r6, rust etc and he was wondering if he could just get something like a 1080ti or a 1660 or a 2060, some sort of gpu and either use an egpu enclosure or just install it in the pc himself so he could game on it.

if you dont feel like clicking the link
-ryzen 7 5700g
-16gb ram, task manager says its running at 3200mhz single channel, will probably put another stick in there too
-1tb ssd
-no gpu

[random walrus]

it's a 180 watt PSU so no 1080ti or 2060

not sure waht the 1660 pulls but probably not that either

maybe a 1050ti

[lone pond]

could very well just put in new psu

i could just do it for him lmfao

ty for pointing that out though, appreciate it

[random walrus]

prebuilt PSUs are often proprietary

[lone pond]

rip

[random walrus]

there is a review saying they upgraded it though

[lone pond]

oh, yeah that sounds good lol

thanks for the help, i didnt even read the reviews lol

[random walrus]

well

that review might be of a different PC. The case looks different than other reviews

might just be becuse there's more stuff crammed in there

[livid idol]

Not in a HP you aren't. At least, not without digging around the used market for the upgraded model of the same unit.
You'd need an adapter for the motherboard and you'd probably need to get a SFX power supply and 3D print a bracket.

[cedar creek]

I have a question that I would like some opinions on. I currently have a 6950xt but I got a trade offer for a 4070 as a straight trade. Just curious on what people think about that!

[odd siren]

you've been offered worse

@cedar creek someone thinks they can outsmart you

4070 = 3080 10gb < 6800xt

make sense what they're offering now?

[cedar creek]

Yeah I know it’s a bit worse than what I currently have I just apparently need a better psu for this thing

[odd siren]

no?

[cedar creek]

My pc will just shut down randomly here and there and restart

[odd siren]

if you have no problems with a 6950 then you'll have no problems with the gpu that peaks at half the power almost

[vital oriole]

4070 is big downgrade

[cedar creek]

Every time I undervolt the thing it’s fine though

[odd siren]

It's a lot worse my guy

you're trading a gpu worth 350 used with your gpu worth like, 500 used

I legitimately mean you're being ripped off

what's your cpu and psu?

[cedar creek]

I know I know

[odd siren]

well if you're aware, then it's ok

[cedar creek]

Cpu is r5 7600x and psu is 850w 80+ gold

I assume psu isn’t enough

[odd siren]

that

[vital oriole]

psu is plenty

[odd siren]

sounds like enough

uh

what's the psu tho?

[vital oriole]

your system is probably having other issues, but yeah, what psu

[cedar creek]

Even though it should be but I didn’t know amd likes to overdraw

[odd siren]

transients would still put you under 850w

[vital oriole]

still enough power

[odd siren]

you won't overdraw that psu

like physically

[vital oriole]

gotta know the exact unit tho

[odd siren]

tell us what's going on

ye what's the psu's full name

[vital oriole]

im thinking problem might be overheating cpu? assuming psu is good

[cedar creek]

Lol about that, it’s an apevia galaxy atx-gx850

[vital oriole]

oh no

[odd siren]

ah that's why

[vital oriole]

yeah, you got a bad one

[odd siren]

ok rq lemme look up a psu that does work

[cedar creek]

Didn’t have the money at that moment to get a better one

So Yee lmao

[odd siren]

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/9GLdnQ/thermaltake-toughpower-gf-a3-750-w-80-gold-certified-fully-modular-atx-power-supply-ps-tpd-0750fnfagu-l

$75

[cedar creek]

I know it’s cheap and uhhh apevia so

[odd siren]

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/h8RgXL/super-flower-legion-gx-pro-850-w-80-gold-certified-semi-modular-atx-power-supply-sf-850p14xe

$89

[vital oriole]

apevia has one ok unit

and that's the prestige

[cedar creek]

Yeah I figured when it first started happening it was my psu

[odd siren]

does it randomly just restart

[cedar creek]

Yep

[odd siren]

bingo

ye

[cedar creek]

Unless I undervolt the gpu

Then it’s fine

[odd siren]

sadge

it's just not built for the transients

[cedar creek]

Makes sense

[odd siren]

but the fact it's tripping means nothing is broken rn

it's working as it intended to, just not great in this situation

[cedar creek]

It’s been a whole ordeal with the new build that I just wanted to get the thing working again so

[odd siren]

fair enough

yeah pick one of those psus my guy

imo

you'll be up and running again

[cedar creek]

Okay I def will, cause I wanna oc this card but rn yeah I can’t Lmaoo

Went from a 2080 and r5 5600x to that and 1440 been nice so far but I definitely am limited with that psu

[vital oriole]

you're lucky it's just shut downs

could've been worse y'know

[odd siren]

oh yeah

coulda been like

thermaltake white

https://tenor.com/view/house-explosion-explode-boom-kaboom-gif-19506150

[cedar creek]

Oh I know it could’ve been

[vital oriole]

crisis averted

new psu and all is well

[odd siren]

it'll be a far better net gain imo

cos like

what's to say you get the 4070 and it still happens?

[cedar creek]

Lol glad I came here about that though, I knew it was my psu but amd is a lot different than what I’m used too

[odd siren]

all good

[cedar creek]

Only reason I went with that 6950xt is I got it for a hell of a deal. New

[odd siren]

I'm on my 5th amd card

[cedar creek]

Lmao

590 usd new it’s the xfx merc 319

Which I heard is the best one from the 6950xt but idk for sure

[vital oriole]

yeah that's a hell of a deal

for a decent model too

[cedar creek]

I play a lot of fiveM and graphics mods and all make my fps uhh

[odd siren]

that's a brilliant buy

keep it

xfx is good

[cedar creek]

That’s what I thought before I bought it

[upbeat sable]

https://a.co/d/9wIUnBn
Would the power supply above come with the cables necessary to plug into and power this gpu (Asrock Phantom Radeon RX 6950 16GB)?

[keen nacelle]

Yes

[upbeat sable]

OK bet

[wraith wagon]

@vital oriole Do you know if I should wait to build my PC until I get my GPU or build it now and put the GPU in once I get it?

[keen nacelle]

Doesn't matter

[wraith wagon]

I don't have a IGPU so would it be fine to test if the parts work or no?

[keen nacelle]

It won't boot to windows without the igpu, but I believe you can get to bios

And maybe install windows?

Not sure

[livid idol]

If you don't have a GPU or iGPU you won't pass post

What you can see is it'll have the VGA debug light on. It's one of the last stages of post so if it got that far it'll be good.

[hot bough]

What's the average bottleneck of a 4090 + 7950x3D at 1440p?

[vital oriole]

none

[spare relic]

All of it

[odd siren]

Some.

[livid idol]

yes

(but fr the 4090 is wasted at anything less than 4k)

[spare relic]

Gimme so I can plug it into my little tube TV

[hot bough]

Can the 4090 push 200+ fps with RTX enabled in most games at 1440p?

[livid idol]

A lot of the time the GPU is not the limiting factor there

[hot bough]

Cpu

Right?

[livid idol]

It's more often the CPU, memory, game engine...

Drivers too

And no you won't be getting 200 fps on ultra rt in any games

Even at 1080p

[hot bough]

What about without RTX?

[livid idol]

Without rt it's a lot easier. In games that support frame gen you can get there pretty reliably.

[hot bough]

Can the 4090 hit 144fps in UHD pretty consistent or no?

Assuming max settings without dlas or RTX.

[livid idol]

Without DLSS? No

[hot bough]

What's the average expected number?

[livid idol]

Depends on the game, it varies wildly between 40 and 400

[hot bough]

Games like MW2, Ark, Halo, and I'm looking into trying out Star Field and other similar games.

[livid idol]

Starfield there's no way in hell anything reliably hits 144 fps

It's poorly optimized

[hot bough]

Oof.

Oh and Minecraft, xD.

[livid idol]

Shooters you can definitely hit that, but the 4090 would be asleep most of the time

[hot bough]

Gotcha.

Mind if I ask you some more questions?

[livid idol]

This is when you know it's bad

XTX beats 4090

[livid idol]

I'll be here a while, go ahead

[hot bough]

Damn autocorrect.

Holy shii that's bad.

What's the thickest and or longest 4090 models?

[livid idol]

1080p it's the same, with xtx barely getting over 100 fps

[hot bough]

Ouch.

[livid idol]

Longest 4090s include the HOF, aorus master, various strix models...

That aorus master I think is the heaviest

It's like a 4 slot cooler

[vital oriole]

pcb cracking ensues

these bricks all need braces

[wind sable]

So like FSR3 is like making frames right?

Why doesn’t it work in every game?

[vital oriole]

no, that's a separate feature

[livid idol]

It's still a preview feature, only certain games that worked directly with AMD have it enabled

It'll eventually work in every game that supports FSR, assuming the devs bother to tick the box to enable it

And it should also work on nvidia GPUs too, back to the 10 series iirc

It might have been 20 series

[hot bough]

Gotcha.

[vital oriole]

1650 works with fsr 3 frame gen

[wind sable]

It that a gpu feature or a cpu feature

[vital oriole]

And these features are up to the devs and game engine to support it

It's a gpu lol

gpu feature i mean

[hot bough]

Thankfully my case has one built in.

[wind sable]

Oh ok cuz like I heard fsr works on nvidia gpus, I thought it would be a cpu feature

[livid idol]

It's a game feature that uses the GPU hardware

[heady turtle]

It'll eventually work in every game at a driver level for the rdna cards

[zealous lion]

It works on NVIDIA as well as Intel Arc because unlike NVIDIA... AMD lets their FSR products be open source to be able to be implemented on any gpu that has an equivalent of AI accelerator cores.

It is like DLSS but open to the public instead of walled garden

Similar situation with Intel's XESS but XESS is optimized for Arc graphics because of an architectural design in a specific type of core in the gpu architecture found in Arc cards and Alder/Raptor architecture cpus with integrated graphics

[hasty monolith]

I cant use amd fluid motion frames on my 6800xt. It says in driver afmf is not support on ur current display setting

[wind sable]

Oh ok, thanks

[livid idol]

It's still a preview feature so yes but not yet

[zealous lion]

Hardware Unboxed said one of the flawa is you need to have FSR upscaling active too to be able to turn it on.

You can't run it at native res for whatever reason

[livid idol]

As it stands yes. They'll probably change that for the full release, or at least in an update. But that could very well be his problem.

[oak rivet]

you can in immortals of aveum last i checked

native aa is native res

[hasty monolith]

I will go back to amd driver that isnt the preview with afmf. Its not worth the hassle

[hot bough]

Would there be any issue with having a AMD and Nvidia gpu in the same system?

[fading glacier]

why would you do such a thing?

[hot bough]

I am in a giveaway and the giveaway is for a system containing a 7900XTX which is great for gaming however it performs way worse then my 3070 in productivity apps so I was wondering if I could use both in the same system so I can game on the XTX then use the 3070 in blender and the such.

[keen nacelle]

Yes

[hot bough]

Gotcha. Thanks for confirming.

[fading glacier]

if its a whole system containing an xtx then i dont see the point of not using the whole system to game instead

a giveaway system containing and xtx will be for sure way better for gaming than your 5700g/3070 system anyway

[hot bough]

I would use their system yes, however I wanted to know if I can install my 3070 into it.

[fading glacier]

oh, then waht bacca said

those 2 gpus will lead to imcompatibility issues left and right

[hot bough]

This is all assuming I'm one of the two lucky winners that is.

[hot bough]

Oh they will?

Assuming I win it I might consider selling the XTX to buy a Nvidia gpu if that's the case.

[fading glacier]

thats.... painful to read

[keen nacelle]

Use cases vary

[keen nacelle]

To be honest that wouldn't be a bad idea, in leui of a 4080 or used 3090

Sell xtx, buy 4080, sell 3070

Very similar gaming perf, much better blender perf

Honestly you might make money, $800 atleast on xtx atleast $275 on 3070

[random walrus]

My advice: don't waste time talking about this unless you actually win the giveaway

[keen nacelle]

^^

Very low odds

[random walrus]

Assuming In the unlikely chance I win

[fading glacier]

not saying is right or wrong, just that is painful to read

[harsh compass]

have a 4070 gigabyte windforce 3x fan.. and im just sitting on roblox in a game (dont judge) temps on gpu is 40 degrees and cpu is 33 degrees.. why is my gpu coil whine so loud?

[random walrus]

high fps can cause coil whine sometimes

[hot bough]

High FPS sometimes causes that but most often I find that it's due to a bad fan curve.

[hot bough]

True, though I was also curious as to if it'd work or not in general.

[harsh compass]

havent found a good fan curve.. still kinda new to pc only had mine about a year now

[hot bough]

I'd set it so that the fans only kick in once the gpu hits 70-80c.

For me it makes it so that the fans pretty much never kick in.

[viscid vault]

i used icue to color code temps

found a decent fan curve

but your setup and case are different

[hot bough]

True.

[hot folio]

7900xtx is about on par with a 3070 for blender from benchmarks im seeing

[odd siren]

Yea it's not terrible

Just not equivalence/amazing

[raven wharf]

It better be for being amd’s flagship

[odd siren]

AMD doesn't really have an answer for optix yet

Definitely come a long way over a couple years from basically useless in blender though

Optix is a true advantage of nvidia, if you use a program that needs it then you are definitely taking the W on team green there

Optix just doesn't have a lot of niches tho

[wraith wagon]

So 4070 Ti will run blender just fine? Because I will be doing some blender animations and what not

[keen nacelle]

Yes definitely

[hot bough]

Yes.

[wraith wagon]

Well I am using a GTX 1650 laptop and it runs fine doing animations so far so ya I should have guessed that the 4070 ti will be hitting home run with what I would be doing

[keen nacelle]

If you're fine on a 1650 4070 ti will be snoozing

[hot bough]

Yeah definitely.

[keen nacelle]

I'd consider going down to a 4070, it's a lot better price/perf

$520 versus $770-800 for like what, 15% worse perf?

Yeah actually almost spot on, 15.2% difference lol

https://www.videocardbenchmark.net/compare/4795vs4699/GeForce-RTX-4070-vs-GeForce-RTX-4070-Ti

[hot bough]

Worth considering.

[wraith wagon]

I am getting it at $1039 CAD which is around 764-ish

[keen nacelle]

4070 ti is top three worst value cards this gen

How much is 4070?

[hot bough]

Buying tech outside of the US is a painful experience.

[keen nacelle]

Canada isn't too bad

[wraith wagon]

800+-ish

[keen nacelle]

Certainly not the best though

[hot bough]

cries in pain, being in Mexico

[wraith wagon]

Buying AMD here is bad 7900 XT is around 1200-ish

[keen nacelle]

Eh, up to you

I'd take the 4070 but I'm not the one spending money

[wraith wagon]

I am already getting the 4070 ti so

[hot bough]

30% tax on tech and it's shipping cost.

[keen nacelle]

Ah alr

[wraith wagon]

12% here

[hot bough]

If you can afford it may as well enjoy the luxury.

[wraith wagon]

Damn

[hot bough]

Can we switch homes?!

[keen nacelle]

Yeah cheapest 4070 is $760

[hot bough]

Mexico has really $#!tty taxes.

[wraith wagon]

like little over a meter of snow?

[hot bough]

I lived in Truckee, California.

That's nothing.

[keen nacelle]

I'd take that over the US political system and sociopolitical climate

[hot bough]

We got 12-14ft of snow in Truckee last year.

[keen nacelle]

Gah damn

Most I've seen is three feet and that's once in a blue moon where I live

[wraith wagon]

That's just just the average weather here the higher you go the more snow I live in southern BC

[keen nacelle]

3 feet=9/10 of a meter

[hot bough]

And I am the one stuck digging the car out half the time.

[wraith wagon]

I have a Skid steer for that

[hot bough]

But yeah, personally I'd go 4070 to if I can afford it.

[wraith wagon]

I got the 4070 ti for a little over kill and also to play CP 2077 and other games like that because with my current laptop it would go BRRRRR

[hot bough]

I'd imagine.

I get around 50-60 fps on medium settings with DLSS no RTX on my 3070.

[wraith wagon]

But I am using the monitor I bought to get over the laptop bottleneck

[wraith wagon]

4070 Ti from what I have seen can run the game around 70-ish fps Raytracing ultra with DLSS

[wraith wagon]

3.3 feet = a meter

[hot bough]

Nice.

[keen nacelle]

I just remember it by yard is three feet, or 90 in, meter is 100 in

[hot bough]

I am currently buying a graphics tablet and some more ram for my system for Adobe then I am saving up for the 4090 or hopefully 4090 ti if rumors of a refresh are true.

Looking forward to the day I join you in the high fps CP27 gang.

[wraith wagon]

I ain't there quite yet still using my 1650 laptop but when my 4070 ti arrives I will be free from all this

[hot bough]

Neat.

[wraith wagon]

So your currently doing better then me performance wise

[hot bough]

I play mostly ark, MW2, and Minecraft nowadays tbh.

Ark makes my my GPU, CPU, and ram all suffer...

[wraith wagon]

I play a lot of BeamNG and plan on playing more games like 2077 and what not

[hot bough]

What's BeamNG?

[keen nacelle]

Racing game

[wicked hound]

Vroom vroom simulator

[hot bough]

Oh okay.

[wraith wagon]

My brother plays with a IGPU laptop that ment for very light office work and it got over 110 degrees C

[keen nacelle]

That needs a repaste

[hot bough]

Dayum.

Yeah, repasted, fans, or something.

Sounds like a MacBook Air to me.

[wraith wagon]

The most realistic car softbody physics game out there very fun

[hot bough]

No active cooling.

[hot bough]

I see.

You wanna play some games together sometime?

[wraith wagon]

What do you got?

[hot bough]

Ark, Minecraft, MW2, Halo, are my main games and I got like 40 other ones I install and delete as needed.

Sons of the forest, The Isle, Ghost Watchers, Phasmaphobia, Elden Ring though I haven't played it yet, Fortnite, etc.

[wraith wagon]

https://youtu.be/3TUs6LWEeGw totaly not me but anyways this video is almost 3 years old but this is BeamNG

[wraith wagon]

I only have one of those and it is Minecraft oof

[hot bough]

What do you have?

[wraith wagon]

Both Java and Bedrock

[hot bough]

You down to get Crafty sometime?

I play Java btw.

[wraith wagon]

Sure first off what time zone are you I am Pacific Daylight Saving Time

[hot bough]

EST.

Not to far off.

I am two hours ahead.

[raven wharf]

What’s everyone’s thoughts on XFX as a whole? I love the look of the cards but i don’t know much else

https://www.newegg.com/xfx-radeon-rx-6950-xt-rx-695xatbd9/p/27N-0002-00172

[hot bough]

Been a while since I checked but I think I remember it being a decent mid tier AIB.

[wraith wagon]

Looks good I don't know much about AMD cards but it says it is similar to the RTX 3080 it is a little more powerful then it then the RTX 3080

[hot bough]

6950xt is a 3090 competitor in games.

AMD is horrible for production applications though.

[wraith wagon]

Or the RTX 4070

[hot bough]

I gotta go cook now but we should play together sometime and I'd be fine with downloading a new game if it's free.

[wraith wagon]

Yep sounds good

[raven wharf]

I don’t plan on using it for that

[wraith wagon]

Then it should be fine

Might be worth the price since I bought the 4070 Ti for 1039 CAD but I want to overkill a bit because why not

[wraith wagon]

https://tenor.com/view/me-when-the-when-the-beamng-gif-22226593

[hot bough]

Better to have some headroom then not.

[vital oriole]

4070 isn't 6950xt competitor in games

it's the 4070ti's

[raven wharf]

[wraith wagon]

Well then how about a block of Cheese? It is 1000% faster at everything

[vital oriole]

lmao

[wraith wagon]

You know what they should make a GPU look like a block of cheese ya know what how about a full cheese pc build

[vital oriole]

Cheesy pc

[wraith wagon]

Yes

[odd siren]

Chuckie cheese 4070 Ti

[raven wharf]

whats your opnions

on

xfx

[odd siren]

I like xfx

Understated brand

Most of every gpu I know of from them is decent just noisy

[vital oriole]

xfx is gud

just not the silent option

usually

but their merc series is fine

[odd siren]

And noisy is an overstatement

Relatively speaking? At least from what I know? Not that much worse compared to what their competition is

The thing for me that I like the most tho is while decent they're usually one of the cheapest

It's not like...

Say

PNY or Gigabyte on the nvidia side

Where you take a known dip on design quality

[raven wharf]

mk

cause im eyeing up their 6950

[odd siren]

Palit another one of these

[odd siren]

The 500 or 530 6900 would be better

A 6950 is worth, maybe 25 extra?

Realistically speaking

That said a 600 6950 is ok

Creeps very close to a 700 7900xt tho, which is better value

[wraith wagon]

Gib

[odd siren]

@wraith wagon is the money back in ur account yet

[wraith wagon]

I almost for got who chuckle cheese is also why did it say watch me language when I put a "y" instead of "ie"

[raven wharf]

yeah but it looks cool

[odd siren]

Lol

I mean if that's worth the probably 30$ value hike then go for it

I'm not fussed about someone spending a small bit for aesthetics

[wraith wagon]

Waiting for my bank to check it out Newegg never received the money so my bank most likely has it rn

[odd siren]

Ah ok, nice

So the pending should clear by tomorrow

[raven wharf]

what happened with you?

[odd siren]

If not, chase them up

[wraith wagon]

Stuff

Purchased a 4070 Ti I canceled within a sec of buying and it still charged me

[wraith wagon]

I sent an email to my banks customer service and they are 3 hours ahead so I should get some news about it tomorrow

[raven wharf]

[wraith wagon]

https://tenor.com/view/cleaning-money-squidward-mr-krabs-spongebob-squarepants-vacuuming-money-gif-25761430

This is the best way to put it

[raven wharf]

https://tenor.com/view/mr-krabs-money-spongebob-gif-8454828

[raven wharf]

@odd siren will xfx's 6950 implode my 750w psu

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/YRJp99/corsair-rm750e-2023-750-w-80-gold-certified-fully-modular-atx-power-supply-cp-9020262-na (my psu)

[odd siren]

No

[raven wharf]

[oak rivet]

gonna downgrade my gpu for a bit just to try out AFMF

take a look at anti lag+ aswell

[heady turtle]

https://tenor.com/view/brooklyn-nine-nine-terry-jeffords-why-b99-brooklyn99-gif-21715381

[random walrus]

You should uhh, send it along to me once you're done and go back to your 4090

[hot folio]

You should play CS2 with it on

[raven wharf]

mans doing the side missions

[oak rivet]

lmao

[wicked hound]

Wonder how quick Valve could push a hotfix to stop players from playing the game with AntiLag enabled. Feel like that'd take fair bit less employee time then dealing with all the CS of AMDs heckup

[dreamy laurel]

Theyve been pushing updates daily with big fixes daily

[wicked hound]

Good to know I suppose

[random walrus]

They really released an unfinished game and deleted csgo smh

Not what I'd expect from valve

[wicked hound]

Valve has done a fair few unsavoury things before. Refunds only exist cuz they've been sued twice

They are better then average, but they are still a business looking for money

[dreamy laurel]

I didnt expect it either

[dreamy laurel]

For example they made artifact

[frigid anvil]

5090 Ti when?

[oak rivet]

hopefully as soon as possible

[keen nacelle]

Mm yeah we need 5090 ti, 4090 isn't enough for us gamers

[oak rivet]

oof the stagnation thought process

[keen nacelle]

Difference between being content and being stagnant

[vital oriole]

it's not stagnant

when a 4090 doesn't have an easy time running native 4k with path tracing

[keen nacelle]

When 4090 can't run all of my games at 240 fps 8k 49in path tracing with no dlss

Bad gpu

[oak rivet]

yeah path tracing is heavy its expected

the fact we can even do it in real time

what ass backwards mentality

[wicked hound]

When 4090 can't run all of my games at 500 fps 16k rasterized pathed ray tracing with no dlss but with DLDSR

[oak rivet]

truly meme worthy some people definetly gonna have a laugh seeing this

[spare relic]

I use my 4090 to scan barcodes

[wicked hound]

I use my 4090 to make barcodes, by cutting it up

[keen nacelle]

I use my 4090 as a gpu sag bracket for my 780 ti

Actually four 4090s stacked on top of eachother, I've an mitx board in a 7000d airflow

[wicked hound]

Prolly only need like two cuz 4090 be massive
I actually have 200 4090 PCBs stacked on top of eachother, I've got an itx board on wall mounted PC

[dreamy laurel]

i have 4 4090s to use as feet for my mini itx build

[dreamy laurel]

ok but like what benefit does it give to gameplay

because from what i know it changes nothing about the gameplay outside visuals

[spare relic]

You can see the kidney stones in an NPC's pee

[dreamy laurel]

suiiiii

[dreamy laurel]

adding onto this

visuals arent that important to games

if you want visuals go watch a james cameron movie

[spare relic]

I want my visuals in Minecraft

Anything else I'm fine without

[dreamy laurel]

slap luma or sildurs on there and call it a day

[spare relic]

SEUS PTGI

[dreamy laurel]

ngl seus is mid asf

looks so flat and monochrome

[spare relic]

https://tenor.com/view/muzeke-gif-27066381

SEUS is the prettiest of all the shaders I've evaluated

Sildurs is just clown colors

[dreamy laurel]

ok but it looks so desaturated

• it hasnt been updated in 2 years

[spare relic]

I want shaders that reflect a more realistic image

And I can't imagine sildurs has had any update to meaningfully work towards that

If we're talking not updated in a long time, think about LUMA being literally abandoned for years

With several issues that eat into its merits

KUDA is at least more complete than its successor

I use it for the shoujo/slice of life weeb look in my Japanese creative worlds

[wraith wagon]

Is this good https://www.bestbuy.ca/en-ca/product/zotac-gaming-nvidia-geforce-rtx-4070-ti-trinity-oc-12gb-gddr6x-video-card/16649537

priced

[keen nacelle]

For a 4070 ti, it is the cheapest in Canada atm

[dreamy laurel]

Kuda runs like crap tho

[spare relic]

Lol how

It's the lightest weight vs LUMA and SEUS

Do you have a GTX 260 or soemthing

[dreamy laurel]

Last i tried on my 2070S i got like 40-70 on stock

Luma i was getting 90-120

[spare relic]

Must be less optimized for performance

Which would make sense with its more comprehensive puddle behavior

And LUMA has nice raindrop effects that are really graphically simple

[zealous lion]

$1000 is not justified for a 4070 Ti. Unless you're playing Ray Traced games you're better off with a RX 7900xt or xtx

[keen nacelle]

In Canada 7900xt is a good bit more

[zealous lion]

When you say a good bit like how much?

[keen nacelle]

Cheapest is $100 more

Xtx is $270 more

[odd siren]

Tmw Canada gets it

💀

[wicked hound]

7900XT is ~$1070 CAD on bhphoto.

[wraith wagon]

Where I live there 100 200 dollars more IDK

IDK why it is just Canada thats all

cheapest XT is CA$1158.98 and cheapest XTX is CA$1,339.50

[wraith wagon]

The total cost and shipping makes it more then what the 4070 Ti from Bestbuy is

[wicked hound]

Shipping is usually free on BH, you sure?

[wraith wagon]

About CA$1,298.49 after taxes and shipping when the 4070 ti I am getting is CA$1164.79

[wraith wagon]

NVM ya no shipping cost but it is still more

Its a 134 dollars more

And I have been planing on getting the 4070 Ti and I already have my other parts

to go with it

[wicked hound]

XT is $759.99 USD, plus $1 customs. Which is about $1070 CAD with MasterCard conversion rate and 2.5% FX fee. Both retailers will have 12% tax (or whatever you have). It should be $1198.4 CAD posttax to $1164.79 CAD posttax.

Regardless, go for whatever works for you

XT card Im getting price from: https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/1739786-REG

[wraith wagon]

Oh I thought you ment the XTX

[wicked hound]

Thank you AMD for the best and least confusing naming ever

[wraith wagon]

I am thinking of doing my next PC with AMD. I just want to go with NVidia; you know you have to flex that RTX. Actually, because the PC I am building is already set to put the 4070 Ti in, I am just waiting to get my refund after a certain Newegg problem and a bank problem.

[odd siren]

@wraith wagon is that still not cleared?

[wraith wagon]

And also I heard that NVidia is better with Blender

[odd siren]

Yes it is

[wraith wagon]

It is a weekend

[odd siren]

Is that still not cleared?

Yes but it was 5 days on friday

Check monday and chase them up for sure

[wraith wagon]

My bank is holding the money

[wicked hound]

For rendering it is by a fair margin ye

[wraith wagon]

IDK why

[wicked hound]

Banks are banks

[wraith wagon]

Ok ya I am doing a lot of BLEEnder things

[wicked hound]

Ye, pretty ideal to stick to Nvidia then

[odd siren]

Bleender is a pretty decent margin yeah

[wraith wagon]

I am not the best but I guess this is more of a goof https://youtu.be/eT_r_jWh1Io

[wicked hound]

Goof can be fun tho

[wraith wagon]

Very much

[proper egret]

How do you guys find asus is for RMA when it comes to GPUs?

I am gonna have to RMA my card sadly

[lone pond]

How pricy is it to water block a GPU? Asking for my packard bell sleeper build due to the problems I’m expecting

[livid idol]

Usually pretty painless

[proper egret]

I just got done with them actually, currently packaging the GPU right now

[livid idol]

The water block alone varies in price between $150-350, not including the other loop components which can run you $500+

[lone pond]

Good to know, might not be worth it, maybe side mount it like original and use a flex cable for the goofy twists

[wicked hound]

Bykski GPU loop prolly $350 or so. Maybe $275 if you can find the cheap kits that sellers have seemingly stopped selling.

[lone pond]

👍

[turbid stream]

same price wich is better an msi rx 6700xt or a gigabyte 3 fans 3060 ti?

[wind sable]

How much vram on the 3060

[keen nacelle]

What price?

[keen nacelle]

3060 ti is always 8gb

And what country?

[turbid stream]

276 dollars

[keen nacelle]

Nice price, new or used?

[wind sable]

Isn’t there one for 12gb

[keen nacelle]

If used there's a refurb 3060 ti for $255

[keen nacelle]

Nah, 4060 ti has 8gb and 16gb

3060 ti is only 8gb

3060 non ti is 12gb, but also 30% worse

[turbid stream]

used

just found a pulse rx 6700xt for 255 dollars

Opinions?

255 dollars

used

I want to buy it but not sure

im from romania btw

[keen nacelle]

Ahh Romania

Then any of the above are fine

Since you said dollars I assumed usd

[turbid stream]

yea i translated it from ron

So its safe to say its worth a shot?

Of course i will tell him to test it in front of me

[keen nacelle]

Yeah any of the three are good options, 6700xt has better raw perf than 3060 ti

[turbid stream]

But i dont really know how to tell its good other than on games

[keen nacelle]

Extra vram is also nice

[keen nacelle]

Have him run a gpu benchmark

[turbid stream]

and the app will tell if its good?

[keen nacelle]

Yeah

[turbid stream]

im asking because if it will give only numbers then..

ok thank god

[keen nacelle]

If it completes the benchmark without failing, you're almost gauranteed to be good

3dmark timespy is good, the demo is free on steam

[turbid stream]

the demo will do just fine ?

[turbid stream]

ok thank you so much

[keen nacelle]

Yeah its the exact same thing as the actual thing

A ton of people here use it for benchmarking including myself, it's fun to see the highest score you can get with your system

Ie I spent hours overclocking my graphics card and doing everything I could to get a score in the top 100 entries for 3060 tis worldwide

[turbid stream]

Very nice to hear

[turbid stream]

So u are into these stuff, cool

[keen nacelle]

Moderately, there's plenty of people who are much more into it than me

I've only messed with gpu overclocking, tons of people here have done a lot more than me

Like sips, felix, forks, far, falcie, and a good few others

[livid idol]

You're probably thinking of the 3060 8GB which is almost as bad as the 3050

[heady turtle]

you mean the 3060 scamGB version

[livid idol]

The 3050 ti

[heady turtle]

honestly

[wraith wagon]

Would a vert mount for my 4070 ti help with cooling in anyway case Fractal North mesh or just leave it how I would normally put it

[fading glacier]

normally vertical mounting hurts air cooled cards (sligthly) but in the case of your case it could help indeed

[livid idol]

Mesh sides are good for airflow

[wraith wagon]

I went with the mesh since the inside of my pc won't look the best and also for better cooling

[livid idol]

Stick a fan on the side rail and you'll get even better GPU temps when vertical mounting

[raven wharf]

how worth it is to upgrade from a 6700 xt to a 6950 xt

obv its a huge performance jump

[odd siren]

You asked this before

It's a whole tier up

If you're eyeing another 6950 deal get it now stop waiting

You'll miss the deal again

[raven wharf]

idk now the 7900 XT looks cool

even though thats too expensive

i cant do the extra like 120ish

[raven wharf]

do you expect them to go OOS soon

[odd siren]

I've watched you try and fail enough times now to know if you hesitate you'll miss whatever the deal is

[raven wharf]

hey hey

we dont talk about that

[odd siren]

No no it's very relevant

💀💀

Less talk more buy

[raven wharf]

i was gonna cop that OC 6900 if it didnt go oos in like 5 mins

i was at class

[odd siren]

Every minute we spend is closer to you missing out on the deal 5 minutes after it goes oos

[raven wharf]

btw felix whats in your personal rig

if you have one

[vital oriole]

he runs xtx rn methinks

has many different gpus

[odd siren]

I have multiple

Rn my gaming rig tho 7950x3d and 4090

[vital oriole]

ah 4090

[livid idol]

https://tenor.com/view/im-so-jealous-jealous-im-a-little-jelly-gif-14074659

[raven wharf]

give me 8950 XTX