archived-code-general

[swift falcon]

wym tho by absolutely necessary

like in what case would that be

[somber nacelle]

like if there is some actual technical reason you need a public field over a public property

[trim schooner]

In 15 years of Unity development - I have never come across a need to have a public field

Not that there won't be a use , just, you can pretty much easily never use them

[steady bobcat]

how have you never thought "dang i wish i could edit this serialized field outside this component!"

[naive swallow]

Good use case: Adding a temporary debug value you can watch in the inspector in such a way it'll stand out so you know to remove it later

[steady bobcat]

how does it stand out? I use [ShowNativeProperty] from naughty attributes for this purpose.

[trim schooner]

because that's what properties are for? 😄

[SerializeField] private SomeType someField;
public float someFloat;
[SerializeField] private SomeType someField2;

Makes it stand out in code. though I'd never do that

[steady bobcat]

Hey i like properties and use em a lot but some things can just be a field

[trim schooner]

If there's some additional code to changing the field (eg: checking for null, or clamping, etc), I want that done in one place and not everywhere I change the field. Regardless of whether or not it needs it now, it might change and require it in the future.. keeping away from public fields and using properties/ methods controls that and removes/ lessens the possibility of future tech debt

It's also how my first job taught me in their code standards

[safe flame]

actually this is a good topic for me, what is the difference between property and field?

or maybe what are they exactly

[dusk apex]

It mainly depends on preferences. Someone can equally say "I like fields a lot but prefer to have all of my public members be properties".

[trim schooner]

field = your class variables
property = getter/setter

[steady bobcat]

its trivial to update a field to a property in c# (if there is no risk of loosing a serialized value)

[safe flame]

ahhh ok i see

[steady bobcat]

a property makes a getter and setter function around a field for you

[safe flame]

the shorthand to do a getter for something like private int level is public int _level => level right?

[trim schooner]

public int Level => _level;

[dusk apex]

Properties are simply getter/setter methods in c# that behave like fields (variables).

[trim schooner]

Properties should start with a capital

[latent latch]

I like being verbose and showing the setter ;p

[safe flame]

i see i see, alrighty thanks

[steady bobcat]

public int MyCoolInt {get; private set;}

[safe flame]

(also most of my code right now uses the same level notation for public and private fields lol..)

[vestal arch]

-# camelCase?

[safe flame]

yep

[lean sail]

theres the whole argument of doing it the proper way from the beginning, follow this architecture, never do X because of Y, decouple everything. In game dev specifically, a lot of these things really don't matter. Sometimes you can be pretty sure that you wont need to change to a property. Truthfully i hate seeing a bunch of properties in my code "just incase"

[steady bobcat]

Usually it would be PascalCase for public things and camelCase for private/protected. Or you can do m_ if you are stuck in the 80s like unity 🤮

[safe flame]

wasn't it _camelCase for privates?

[trim schooner]

I don't add a property unless it's needed, who'd add code like that just in case? 😄

[dusk apex]

You could look up naming conventions in c# and practice a standard. It'll help you to be able to identify code written by others better, implicitly.

[steady bobcat]

Unless you maintain a public library there isnt an important reason to use properties to start

[vestal arch]

@safe flame the single most important thing in regards to styling is to stay consistent

[chilly surge]

The more practical reasons to prefer properties over fields are that:

• Properties can have different visibilities for getter and setter.
• Property getter and setter can have logic.
• Interfaces can have properties but not fields. If you ever need to make an interface to encapsulate something, you would never need to refactor anything if you default to properties.

[latent latch]

do people really unscore their private variables outside of python languages

[vestal arch]

js, yeah

[safe flame]

oh yeah i have two other teammates, and one teammate uses camelCase for functions, the other PascalCase

i try to follow what my IDE suggests, though i have ignored _camelCase for privates for the whole project

[steady bobcat]

js is cus there is no access restructions

[vestal arch]

i mean there is now but it's really new

and barely anyone uses it lol

[steady bobcat]

__SECRET_INTERNALS_DO_NOT_USE_OR_YOU_WILL_BE_FIRED

[vestal arch]

ah no that's just facebook

[trim schooner]

the same reason you'd do it for a public library is why you (people in general) would for a private.. your audience is just future you

[lean sail]

I meant it more like using a property rather than a public field just incase you have to change the logic. Or purely to adhere to "best practices". I still use properties for the most part anyways but I do find it annoying at times

[latent latch]

I've noticed ides nowadays will actually try to hide those variables even if there isn't normally access prevention

[dusk apex]

Old school C devs but I don't believe they (those individuals) are common on this server.

[vestal arch]

you guys know the thing about 2 people arguing and then a third person coming in with a really different one that unites the first two people against the third

uhhh so what do y'all think about this

member style/groups are as follows:

• static fields
• serialized fields & props (public)
• own components (no access modifier, assigned on awake)
• convenience values (no access modifier, computed on awake/start, don't change)
• containers (no access modifier, initialized immediately, can be mutated)
• state variables (private, often modified)
• convenience properties (no access modifier)
• exposed properties (public)
• inner types
• unity messages (no access modifier)
• inputsystem messages (protected)
• intercomponent messages/methods (public)
• coroutines (private)
  member naming: fields and props are camelCase, methods are PascalCase, no prefixes are used for fields/props

i mean.. i stay internally consistent lol

[steady bobcat]

indeed and I know best for me 😄

[trim schooner]

Gotcha .. can't say I've ever had that feeling :p

[latent latch]

anyway, snakecase is objectively the base (BEST, but also based) naming convention for variables because you can be verbose as much as possible and not feel bad

[steady bobcat]

rust user alert

[trim schooner]

Wish I was way more consistent though.. got some code I'm re-using and for some reason I used _varName but everywhere else just varName ¯_(ツ)_/¯

[safe flame]

hungarian notation

[leaden ice]

why, like, introduce punctuation in your words though

[vestal arch]

because-why-not?

[naive swallow]

Anarchy mode. Roll a d20 before writing any variable and consult a chart to see which standard to apply to this one

[safe flame]

i have a dartboard for that

[steady bobcat]

private bool __m_b_myBool; 🤡 🔫

[vestal arch]

d20 isn't enough, gotta do 2 and consult a 20x20 matrix

[safe flame]

private bool bool_-m_MyBool.bool

[lean sail]

this is unironically very close how most IDs are written in my job (not game dev)

[safe flame]

pain

[steady bobcat]

ancient rules from the 90s when ides were shit

[naive swallow]

Bee Movie notation.

public bool accordingtoallknownlawsofaviation;
public int thereisnowayabeeshouldbeabletofly;

[steady bobcat]

Go try to use openssl or any old c lib and then you will understand how bad names can be https://docs.openssl.org/1.1.1/man3/PEM_read_bio_PrivateKey/

[swift falcon]

How should I save each object and their position? I'm using a save/load system with a json file and I want to save every object in the scene + their position

[lean sail]

is there a specific part you're struggling with here? make a list, each element representing the objects ID and position. save that

[swift falcon]

Yea, each of them has their own script with its own values and I'm not sure what to do abt that

[naive swallow]

Store them too

[swift falcon]

Its gonna be hard but I will try

[steady bobcat]

If its just an object without any extra data to restore, you just need some ID to find its prefab later
If it has extra data, same thing but save this extra data too (e.g. health)

[naive swallow]

Math question: I need to interpolate a height of a 2D spot between its four corners.

Like, I have the height at four points, call em 0,0, 0, 1, 1, 0, and 1, 1. I have a height at each of these four coordinates. Now, if I wanted the height at, say, 0.35, 0.7, how would I lerp that value on both axes? Basically, how can I find the height of an arbitrary point on a theoretical quad given the positions of its vertices?

My first thought is "Average the heights of the X lerp and Y lerp:

(Lerp(height[0,0], height[0,1], x) * Lerp(height[0,0], height[1,0])) / 2

But that feels... incorrect. Am I overthinking it?

I'm pretty sure that only works if X and Y are equal

Wait, no, it doesn't work for any distance, I'm picturing a quad in my head, a quad that's angled down from it's highest point at 0,0, looking for the height at 0.5, 0.5, those two lerps will both be higher than the point I want to actually check

So an average wouldn't do

Graphic because it's also helping me think this through. There's not actually a quad or I could just do some raycast shenanigans or something, I'm working off of pure math here

[sleek bough]

I think quad is tricky because it can be folded two different ways, (midpart) it's not truly averaged if two opposite vertices higher or lower. Probably point on the triangle should be calculated.

[naive swallow]

If it were a mesh made of triangles it'd be one thing, but what I'm actually dealing with is a 2D array of floats representing the heights of a surface in a grid pattern. I'm trying to get the height of an arbitrary point that is between those array indices

[late lion]

My first thought is this is just bilinear interpolation

[sleek bough]

This has a solution for an interpolation https://math.stackexchange.com/questions/3349939/calculate-the-height-z-coordinate-of-a-point-on-a-flat-quadrilateral-plane
But I think it could be split into triangles to simplify.

[naive swallow]

[Checking wikipedia]
Okay, that does seem like what I need.

Please tell me there's a Mathf function or something I can use for this

[late lion]

Looks more complicated than it is when you write it all down like that. Bilinear interpolation is just three Mathf.Lerps. First, lerp between the top corners of the quad by the X. Then the bottom corners by the X. Then lerp between those two values using the Y.

For a grid of multiple quads, you find the 4 corners the point is within and calculate the normalized position within that quad and do the same.

[naive swallow]

Three lerps! That's the special sauce I was missing! I didn't think of three lerps

[naive swallow]

Yeah, I got all the math for that already, I have the corners and have InverseLerped between them to get the value between each, I just didn't know what to do from there

[late lion]

I had to double check, I don't often do bilinear interpolation manually. I just remembered having the same aha! moment. Bilinear interpolation is a combination of linear interpolations and trilinear interpolation is a combination of bilinear.

[wicked seal]

Hi, I'm trying to make a Joystick manually and I want to get a sprite to be rendered and updated real time as you move the stick so it looks like the base of a joystick Idk how to explain. I've tried creating a mesh but I just don't get how to update it in real time so it reshapes itself as I move the stick

Maybe a rookie doubt but I'm having a hard time with this thing. Does anyone have a good approach to constantly reshape polygons as the game runs?

[latent latch]

What do you mean by reshape? If you're working with sprites then you'd probably want different frames for each direction

[wicked seal]

That would be a good approach but I currently have it set-up so you can move it to literally any direction so it's not just like 16 directions

Like a mobile game joystick

[latent latch]

Well, your choice of 16 different sprite frames, or one mesh where you tilt towards the direction

bonus: make the mesh in blender then prebake it into 16 different sprite frames

[wicked seal]

is there a way to recalculate the mesh shape each frame? I was thinking on that more than switching between sprites depending on the position of the stick

[night harness]

A mesh/sprite that just looks right when rotated around the centre sounds ideal

[wicked seal]

oh god, that's true

just making like a cone sticking to a circle would do the trick

[latent latch]

you dont need to reshape anything. Just rotate/tilt the mesh

[wicked seal]

thanks guys

I was so immersed on the other Idea I couldn't think about that

[fiery steeple]

Wrote the drawers script but still doesn't work and I'm not sure how to use it

[somber nacelle]

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[autumn flicker]

Can Someone Help me fix a bug in my game?

[thin aurora]

If you want fixing your bug I suggest you explain in detail what the issue is and possible share any errors you encounter. Above all, share the !code.
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[autumn flicker]

nullreferenceexception object reference not set to an instance of an object

so i was making a tower Defense game and everything works fine, but after i press the retry button that loads the same scene my enemy object stops moving and going to the waypoint location. the error is in my enemy movement code that takes an array of waypoints(positions) and then orders the enemy object to start moving towards it. but i don't know why the array is null after i reload the scene and i don't know how to fix it.

im new to unity.

[ocean hollow]

is there a prettier way of doing this?

    private void Start()
    {
        if (transform.childCount > 0)
        {
            Transform child = transform.GetChild(0);

            string parentName = gameObject.name;
            Match match = Regex.Match(parentName, @"\((\d+)\)");
            if (match.Success)
            {
                string number = match.Groups[1].Value;
                string newName = $"Arrow ({number})";

                if (child.name != newName)
                {
                    child.name = newName;
                }
            }
        }
    }```

[thin aurora]

For starters you can revert the if statements and make them into guard clauses

if (transform.childCount)
  return;

Performance wise, put the Regex in a class-scoped variable and make sure to make it a compiled regex. There is an option for that if you make the regex

[night harness]

not to stackoverflow you but just curious, why are you doing this

[thin aurora]

For this we will definitely need your code so we can determine what the issue is. Also, please make a full screenshot of your console as it will contain a stacktrace where your code failed.

See the bot message for sharing code

The stacktrace should show the file paths of your code and what method/operation it did on what line. This is a very important detail

[ocean hollow]

i have a ton of objects that i want to easily find by name from the hierarchy. renaming each of them manually would take so long

[night harness]

i see

hopefully not find by name as in Find?

[ocean hollow]

i actually am doing that! in update too! on a lot of different objects!

jk lol

[night harness]

the snip is at runtime but if this is just like a editor tooling thing its super easy to have something like this in a menuitem where performance doesnt matter as much

[ocean hollow]

yeah i thought that i might as well add an execute always attribute to make my life easier

[thin aurora]

Thank you. From the stacktrace you see it fails at EnemyMovement line 16

So this bit

[autumn flicker]

yeah

[vestal arch]

see the bot message for sharing !code

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[thin aurora]

Now generally Update is called AFTER Start is called, but there are some exceptions

To begin, could you change your Start method to Awake?

One possible issue is Target might not be set when you use it

The second issue could be that Waypoints.points[0] results in a nullvalue

[vestal arch]

do you have a the Waypoint thing set up

[thin aurora]

transform is always set so this will not be null

Once this is done, and the exceptions till appears, the next thing to do would be debugging the incoming data

https://unity.huh.how/debugging

[autumn flicker]

yeah it works the problem is after i reload the scene

[vestal arch]

are they in different scenes or something? what's your setup here exactly?

[night harness]

what exceptions?

[autumn flicker]

just one scene and it works fine but after i press the retry button that loads the same scene it stops working

[thin aurora]

What happens if you log the result of Waypoints.points.Length inside your Start method?

And also, log the result of Waypoints.points[0]
https://unity.huh.how/debugging/logging/how-to

[vestal arch]

ok so the static field is referring to objects that have been deleted after reloading the scene

wait it should delete and reawaken Waypoints too

unless it's DDOL...?

[vestal arch]

what's the first error you see in console?

scroll all the way up

is it the same one, or does it perhaps point to somewhere else instead?

[thin aurora]

Execution order might vary if objects are disabled

[vestal arch]

Start won't be run after Update for a given component instance though?

[night harness]

i dont think so

[vestal arch]

ok sounds like your waypoints array was empty

which meant target wasn't getting set, since it errored before that

check your set up, do you actually have children in the object that has Waypoints?

[thin aurora]

If object X is disabled it will run its start method after object Y's update method

[vestal arch]

is anything DDOL?

do you have multiple Waypoints in the scene?

[night harness]

oh yeah but was this not in the context of the same object?

[thin aurora]

Alright so waypoints is empty

I suggest you do the logging I told you about

[thin aurora]

In this case I'd also log the child count specifically in your waypoints method

See if it has any. I assume it either doesn't log, or it logs zero

[thin aurora]

No, didn't say it was

[vestal arch]

why'd you bring that up then lol

[autumn flicker]

i did

[thin aurora]

I assume this is the first log before you reloaded?

[autumn flicker]

yeah

[autumn flicker]

yes and after the reload is just errors

[thin aurora]

Do these waypoints even exist on a reload?

[autumn flicker]

yes

[thin aurora]

So it doesn't log on the reload meaning it keeps the old objects int he static array

One thing you can do is get rid of the static context and make it a singleton, but ideally it just gets called again

What happends if you change the log to Debug.Log("message", this); and press it when it shows. Where is your waypoints object?

The object should have its Awake method called when it initializes, which is what it would do on a reload. In your case this does not appear to happen judging by the single log message

[autumn flicker]

i try the Debug.Log("message", this); and it loged but its the same output

[thin aurora]

Just for clarification, this log message appeared once, and not twice in any way, right?

[thin aurora]

Oh, but here there are two now?

So it does run?

[autumn flicker]

the second one is after the reload

[vestal arch]

@autumn flicker how exactly are you achieving the reload?

just SceneManager.Loading the same scene?

[thin aurora]

What is EnemyMovement.cs line 13? Did you change the code?

It does not point to anything from your previous screenshot

I assume it's the first index of your waypoints still?

[autumn flicker]

i added a debug.log

[thin aurora]

Your second Debug.Log still points to the same location with the waypoints when you click it?

It seems like in the case of a reload it does not fill the array anymore because it has no children

And in turn Target remains null

But now the question is why it would no longer have them on a reload, suggesting the way points might be loaded at a later stage?

How are those waypoints added?

[thin aurora]

No I mean the actual game object instances in the hierarchy

[thin aurora]

These

Are these added by code?

[autumn flicker]

No

its in the scene

[thin aurora]

You could also just suffer from some sort of race condition in that case

These are prefabs though. You have these added through the designer?

Then we can rule it out at least

[autumn flicker]

the pink dots are the waypoints

[night harness]

if the waypoints are in the scene their awake will always fire before any enemymovement start fires?

[thin aurora]

The waypoints have no behaviour as far as I know

The parent game object collects them, then it will tell the enemy where to go

So far this all makes sense, I just don't see why it would break on a reload

[autumn flicker]

same

[steady bobcat]

Perhaps its time to use a debugger

[vestal arch]

what's in the DDOL

[narrow summit]

just to be clear, the first log is the only log during the first playthrough, and rest are after the scene reload?

[autumn flicker]

yes

[autumn flicker]

i don't know what a DDOL is im new to unity

[vestal arch]

the DontDestroyOnLoad part

you've marked some stuff as DontDestroyOnLoad, so just to make sure, you haven't put anything that relies on waypoints in there?

[autumn flicker]

nothing its just the debug updater

[thin aurora]

I'd take Rob's advice and look into learning how to use the debugger

[thin aurora]

See the topic for Debugger

[steady bobcat]

Its often the best way to actually figure out an issue

that and useful logs

[thin aurora]

I think there's not much else to do here because it's likely there might be an issue that fixes itself before you even notice, but the code is invalid at that point

[night harness]

what scenario can actually trigger an outside index error on an array at index 0?

i thought it would be throwing a null ref on the array

wasnt aware an array could exist with no indicies?

[thin aurora]

The array has a size of 0, so index 0 is out of bounds

[night harness]

ah

[thin aurora]

And in turn, Target remains null and will always throw a null ref

So we initially started there, but the issue is the empty array

But hey, we learn debugging which is always good

[night harness]

well more specifically accessing at 0 throwing the error was what i was curious about but yeah

[autumn flicker]

yeah i know but i don't know how to use a debugger because im new to this stuff so i preferred to ask people to help me out. Anyway, thank you guys.

[autumn flicker]

so i logged each waypoint when its adding to the array and its adding them to the array after the reload so the array its not empty

[vestal arch]

try logging points.GetHashCode() in Waypoints.Awake and EnemyMovement.Start

see if they're consistent once you reload the scene

[steady bobcat]

What you should do is use a debugger and put breakpoints where the exceptions are happening to investigate more. You can also put a breakpoint where the array is filled to make sure it is happens correctly on scene reload.

VS code has a debugger you can use with unity as long as you have the unity vs code extension + set vs code as the editor in unity.

[autumn flicker]

the selected one is last hash code before the reload

[vestal arch]

put it outside the loop, have it run only once
then add the similar log (to Waypoints.points) in the other Start method, the one that's erroring

[autumn flicker]

i did and the selected log is the last log before the reload and its from the start method log, but after the reload only the awake method logs and we don get the start method log.

[vestal arch]

why do you have so many logs

do you have multiple Waypoints components?

[autumn flicker]

yes

24 waypoints

and the awake method logs them all

but the start method only logs one

[vestal arch]

you shouldn't

..you have Waypoints on each of your waypoints, don't you

Waypoints should only be on the container for the waypoints

otherwise you're just overwriting the static array when it loads for the children

[vestal arch]

thta doesn't answer my question

im not psychic lol

[autumn flicker]

each one has the waypoints script

[vestal arch]

yeah see above

[autumn flicker]

it workeeeeeeeeeeeeed!

you were right

only the parent object that hold the waypoint should have the script

not every one of them

thank you alot

[vestal arch]

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[thin aurora]

I am confused

How did this even work in the first place then

Also, how did they not all log a message if they have the script? You only had a single log and they didn't collapse

So many questions

Also because when I said to add this to the parameter and click it, it would've gone to the parent game object

Anyway, glad it's fixed

[autumn flicker]

I even don’t know how it worked I followed a tutorial and it created it like this and it worked. The main question is why it worked at the start of the scene but not at the reload

[autumn flicker]

Thank you man
I Appreciate that

[thin aurora]

Indeed, pretty funny it would work there

[autumn flicker]

Exactly

Thats the thing that confused me

[sturdy holly]

not sure the best place to put this but we are using I2 for localization and it works fine EXCEPT we have some key values such as 75% and on import it seems to be converting this to a value 0.75 etc can we stop this?

[chilly slate]

Hey is it possible to utilize system level actions in unity?

[vestal arch]

could you elaborate on what you're referring to

[chilly slate]

Basically making a project for school stuff atm, I need to essentially implement stuff like how inscryption is able to read through your hard drives. Or just ways generally to interact with the system like being able to create textfiles on your desktop or shutting down a PC through the game

[vestal arch]

oh, syscalls?

but uhh shutting down the entire pc i think could constitute as malware so maybe don't lol

[sturdy holly]

yeah you generally dont want to mess with peoples systems like that, can you do it? yes

[vestal arch]

a little googling seems to indicate that you can use normal c# fs apis (System.IO) except on browser where there isn't an fs

[chilly slate]

Well good thing this isn't a general situation then
I dont intend on being malicious with system stuff its for school research for my bachleors

Not a project meant to be distributed through like steam or something like that though im still gonna look at the terms n agreement for unity tho

Thanks anyhow

[sturdy holly]

yeah no worries but you can do it fine, you can access anything you need via win32 api and even some in build unity functionality

[vestal arch]

i don't think you'd need to go directly to win apis, just use the .net interfaces

[soft shard]

Although if you do decide to go through win APIs, a cool one ive discovered is that you can set the name of the application when its in windowed mode, helpful in multiplayer

[fiery steeple]

anyone please ? 🙂 ☝️

[vestal arch]

maybe try #↕️┃editor-extensions

[fiery steeple]

alright

[thin willow]

I am having a bit of confusion about mathf.smoothdamp, and why it is at all framerate dependant in my setup in-game (VRChat world, which uses unity).

• I have a test script to simply move a cube from y=0 to 1. Run in Update(). Using unity default (time.deltaTime).
• the parameters are all typical initially:
  current value=0
  target value=1
  currentVelocity=0
  smoothTime=0.1
  maxSpeed=default (mathf.infinity)
  deltaTime= default (time.deltatime)
• My understanding is, mathametically, the overall duration to reach say 0.95 should be similar or equivalent for different framerates. Becuase the actual movement curve is the same, just the steps are different in different framerate.
• I asked GPT (I know, dont trust AI etc) to make a calculator to check the overall time to reach 0.95. It generated a code that runs the unity smoothdamp and measures the time it takes. I ran the code seperately and it seems to confirm, the times are about the same.

Time to reach 95% of the target at 15 FPS: 0.2667 seconds
Time to reach 95% of the target at 30 FPS: 0.2667 seconds
Time to reach 95% of the target at 60 FPS: 0.2500 seconds
Time to reach 95% of the target at 120 FPS: 0.2417 seconds

• However my in-game measurements (using similar method, by comparing the starting time, and the time it reached say 95%) are like this:

15 FPS, ~466 ms
30 FPS, ~666 ms
60 FPS, ~1100 ms
90 FPS, ~1567 ms
120 FPS, ~1.9 seconds

which is a whole lot of difference and cannot be explained simply by step size resolution.
Moreover, in VRChat you can press esc to open a menu which will lower your FPS for maybe a few frames. I can visibly "speed up" the cube movement by pressing esc therefore lowering the FPS for a few frames.

[leaden ice]

showing your actual code might help

[thin willow]

oh this maybe difficult because it is done in VRChat's udon graph

[leaden ice]

how does udon graph handle ref parameters?

[thin willow]

interestingly, it does not, i have to leave the nodes unplugged to get it to work, i assume this is handled in the background

you are talking currentVelocity correct?

[leaden ice]

yep

[thin willow]

would the currentVelocity not being updated create such effect? i mean visually it seems to be damping just fine

[leaden ice]

absolutely yes

i mean i don't think it would be working at all though if it wasn't handling the velocity properly

[dire pelican]

How would I go about getting rid of seams between different meshes?
I think Im supposed to recalculate the normals by hand so they take in account the vertices of neighboring meshes but im not sure how to do this with a noisy sphere

[hexed pecan]

You should share your mesh generation code

!code

[tawny elk]

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[dire pelican]

Here's my attempt at implementing manual normals calculation(it didn't work)
https://scriptbin.xyz/wokozetoza.cs

[hexed pecan]

So does the sphere consist of 6 parts?

[dire pelican]

I just calculated normals by normalizing the difference between the vertex and the center of the sphere

[dire pelican]

no I added the ability to subdivide the cube-sphere further.

so it depends

[hexed pecan]

How did it look when you tried RecalculateNormals?

Are you even sure that it's a normals issue and not a vertex color issue?

Oh you aren't using vertex colors

In that case maybe a UV issue

[dire pelican]

If I use the built in function, the shadows are fine for the most part but there are visible seams between meshes. By using my handmade approach, the seams are gone but now the shadows are pretty messed up

the shadows are just lacking

[hexed pecan]

What renderpipeline are you using

[dire pelican]

URP

[hexed pecan]

Have you looked at the mesh with rendering debugger on

Check how the normals look
https://docs.unity3d.com/Packages/com.unity.render-pipelines.universal@15.0/manual/features/rendering-debugger.html

[dire pelican]

Let me see

this is the lighting with "lighting with normal maps"

there's a visible seam, altho im not sure if thats what im supposed to do

[dire pelican]

meanwhile my implantation creates terrible shadows

[hexed pecan]

Does your mesh have duplicate vertices at the seams?

I'd recommend to rework it so that the vertices are shared. Then RecalculateNormals should produce smooth normals at the seams

[dire pelican]

How would that work?

[dire pelican]

should there?

[hexed pecan]

The normals are calculated per-vertex from the neighbors of the vertex. If your mesh has disconnected parts (like at the seams here), these seams will appear

[hexed pecan]

You can try using something like a Dictionary<Vector3, int> to check for duplicates. The vector is the vertex position, the int is the index of the vertex at that position

[dire pelican]

It seems like the meshes are sharing vertices but lemme check

[dire pelican]

alright.

Hm I don't think there are duplicates.

Let me try to see if I can fix that.

[hexed pecan]

You don't want duplicates. You want shared vertices at the seams

[vagrant blade]

There are no memes here, thanks.

[fiery steeple]

Any help please with propertydrawer 😬 👉 #↕️┃editor-extensions message ? I really don't understand these, they look complex

[sturdy holly]

I just found out about the "GameplayMessageSystem" but I cannot see it in the plugins list, was this nuked/renamed etc?

[rigid island]

what is that?

nothing shows up relevant to unity..

you lost from /unreal ?

[sturdy holly]

haha yeah wrong channel 😄

[signal moon]

Hi! How do I restart the game? Like completely in the exact state as if I launched build again or clicked play in editor. I tried simple scene one, but I saw massive amount of unassigned things out of nowhere and non reseted variables. Any workaround?

Ofc finding every single variable and setting it to what it should be is out of the question lol

[steady bobcat]

if a scene is reloaded then it will load fresh (as in create new game objects with new components.
Existing class/struct instances and static vars wont be affected

[vestal arch]

we don't support modding here #📖┃code-of-conduct

[rocky heron]

oh okay my bad 😢

[vestal arch]

though it seems like you just might be getting different amounts of random values

also UnityEngine.Random is shared across everything, so maybe consider System.Random for a localized deterministic thing

[rocky heron]

but it all gets called in one function so nothing should be able to interfere?

welp i wont pry any further, my bad didnt know about the modding thing

[vestal arch]

the reason modding discussion isn't allowed here is partly for legal reasons and partly because modding covers some topics that aren't relevant to general unity development

but i skimmed your question and it doesn't seem particularly bound to modding, so maybe try booting up an empty "test" project (to eliminate the modding aspect, in the sense that it doesn't have an effect on the behaviour), and if you can replicate the behaviour there, you could ask about that

im not sure if that would count as rule evasion, so.. if a mod smites the convo don't be surprised i guess lol

[rocky heron]

sure i guess ill boot up unity

just gonna make a cool shuffle function rq ^-^

[signal moon]

Yes, i get that, I just want to completely restart the game, and maybe run a function to skip the menu. Like if I closed the app and opened it

[steady bobcat]

Then do that, unload or go back to some intro scene to unload everything so you can load it again

[signal moon]

Im not following. Reloading scene 1 won't work, but loading scene 0 then scene 1 will?

[rocky heron]

just made it in a test and it works fine in there 😔

 void Start()
 {
     Random.InitState(2);
     List<int> list1 = new List<int>() { 1, 3, 12 };
     List<int> list2 = new List<int>() { 1, 3, 12, 10, 100, 5 };
     Shuffle<int>(list1);
     Shuffle<int>(list2);
     print("list 1:");
     foreach (int i in list1)
     {
         print(i);
     }
     print("list 2:");
     foreach (int i in list2)
     {
         print(i);
     }
 }

 void Shuffle<T>(List<T> list)
 {
     for (int i = 0; i < list.Count; i++)
     {
         Swap<T>(list, i, Random.Range(0, list.Count));
     }
 }
 void Swap<T>( IList<T> list, int i, int j)
 {
     T val = list[j];
     T val2 = list[i];
     T val3 = (list[i] = val);
     val3 = (list[j] = val2);
 }

this i think is about the same and it just works

now im super confused

[vestal arch]

what's with the val3 lol

[steady bobcat]

If you use additive scene loading you can remove and re load the scene. Otherwise you need to load into some other scene to then load back to the first.
Remember that stuff in DontDestroyOnLoad is kept always

[rocky heron]

idk its in the swap method so i just included it

[vestal arch]

that's built-in?

[rocky heron]

its swap is a list extension that the game adds

[vestal arch]

wdym "the game"?

oh repo?

[rocky heron]

yes

[vestal arch]

why would they do it like that...

oh

it's from decompilation

[rocky heron]

yeah

ofc

prob not perfect

[vestal arch]

definitely not perfect

[signal moon]

So it didn't work as I went from scene 1 to loading scene 1, but it should work when I would go from scene 1 to 2, and from 2 to 1

[steady bobcat]

Tbh i dont know what unity will do if you single load into the same scene as you have loaded already

[vestal arch]

(fyi, swap only needs 1 extra variable

void Swap<T>(IList<T> list, int i, int j) {
  T temp = list[i];
  list[i] = list[j];
  list[j] = temp;
}
```)

[signal moon]

I had a lot of nulls and other problems, suddenly 50 critical warnings

[vestal arch]

well if you're seeing different behaviour in 2 scenarios, identify what's different lol

[steady bobcat]

xor swap would like a word

[vestal arch]

that only works when you have access to the underlying bits; this is the general case

[signal moon]

When I looked in inspector half of the things were unassigned

[rocky heron]

i am xD only thing i see is that repo takes one of the lists from a dictionary and the other thing is that repo has classes in the lists

but i dont see how itd make a difference

since im not looking at the list from dictionary

but a different one

[vestal arch]

xor swap still needs an extra variable

void Swap<T>(IList<T> list, int i, int j) {
  list[i] ^= list[j];
  sanity--;
  list[j] ^= list[i];
  sanity--;
  list[i] ^= list[j];
  sanity--;
}

[steady bobcat]

Huh isnt there one where you can use 0 extra vars?

[vestal arch]

...are you cloning it? because if not, then it is the list from the dictionary

[steady bobcat]

probably doesnt work in c# though

[vestal arch]

-# yes, xor swap. i made a joke

[vestal arch]

xor swap only works when you can actually xor the underlying data, which is accessible in c# fixed-width integral types

[chilly surge]

You can just do the tuple swap (a, b) = (b, a);.

[steady bobcat]

Ha im slow
yea in c/cpp or using unsafe in other langs

[rocky heron]

it shuffles a list from the dictionary, then it shuffles the other list
if it shuffles the 2nd list before shuffling the list from dict it gives consistent shuffles (of the 2nd list)across multiple tries otherwise it doesnt

[vestal arch]

-# so apparently "cs type" gives results about caesarian section types

[vestal arch]

maybe like.. copy over the code you used that had the initial issue to begin with?

[rocky heron]

^^?

[vestal arch]

yeah but what you just showed doesn't seem very close to the structure you had originally

make dummy dicts and stuff

[rocky heron]

ill redo every class in there then ig

[vestal arch]

you don't have to replicate the entire project structure

just the parts relevant to this

at least keep the original flows you tested

[rocky heron]

i found it out but thanks for the help :) for some reason the count of the first list was going up by 3 after each reload of my save, which it shouldnt. every time i reset the game and loaded it the count stayed the same

[dawn nebula]

Let's say I have a collection of Sprites that represent the elements in Unity. I want his collection to be used across many GameObjects. How should I set this up?

ScriptableObjects?

[night harness]

sounds about right

[dawn nebula]

If I have a lot of collections of types of things (Textures, Materials, Sprites, Colors etc), should I also just SO them?

[night harness]

I tend to, depends on what kinda workflow you end up prefering

[eager yacht]

In a work project we basically just have this (an SO) and some functions on it to grab what we want from ids and such. It's nice and simple tbh.

[dawn nebula]

what does it contain, just sprites?

what are the Ids? Ints or strings?

[eager yacht]

Contains whatever we want to access in various places. Prefabs, sprites, settings, etc. And we just have a static class with some constant ids for things like items, otherwise we can always just search with a string (such as a prefab name).

[hard mantle]

Why Unity's IPointerDownHandler interface event giving a 6 digit and different pointer id in eventdata.pointerID. it used to give touch Id like 0, 1 before Unity 6. It broke my game!

[cosmic rain]

Could be a bug. Or maybe the event data is just not initialized or something

[hard mantle]

How to initialize it? It works when pointer is down on the UI raycast

I really hope it is bug

[cosmic rain]

Well, where are you seeing it producing the weird numbers? Can you share the relevant code?

[hard mantle]

I just debug on event callback eventData.pointerID.

Whenever I click on the UI where the script is placed. It gives me different pointer id every time like
3562651
3562652

It used to give 0 when only 1 finger is there

And when 2 it give 1

And so on

[cosmic rain]

It also seems that the implementation is dependent on the input system

[hard mantle]

There's no connection with this interface and input system

It works on my unity 2022 project

The same script produces different pointer id in unity 6

[cosmic rain]

There is. It ultimately gets triggered by the input system/manager

[hard mantle]

Ohh

I am using new input system in unity 6 project

[cosmic rain]

And in unity 6 I think the input system is set to be active by default

[hard mantle]

Yes

[cosmic rain]

Maybe try switching to input manager and see if that affects the pointer id

[hard mantle]

Why it's needed to me.

I made a touch area for mobile users where they can move cinemachine camera

The touch area is a ui

And I need finger ids to make sure the touch on UI will move the camera and not the touch outside ui

[hard mantle]

Sure

[cosmic rain]

Then you'll probably need to figure out where these ids are coming from. Perhaps they're defined somewhere in the input system.

[hard mantle]

Yeah, I'll see

Thanks a lot for your time @cosmic rain

[sturdy thorn]

Excuse me I need help
I have a scene and there is an input field, a code must be written in order to play the game.

The thing is that the code is generated in a html website

how do I connect Unity to my website?

[cosmic rain]

A web request

[sturdy thorn]

Sorry

[chrome sage]

is there a resource for best practices for pixel perfect 2d collisions? preferably with rule tiles? I'm apparently doing something weird.

[vestal arch]

you didn't want collisions tho did you?

you just wanted a traversable grid, right?

[chrome sage]

with walls, yes

[deep echo]

yo, for some reason when i bake, its not showing me what i baked? any ideas? i am using navmesh surface

and also i am tryna make a cube follow it, for some reason it isnt,'

[young tapir]

This does not seem like a #archived-code-general question

[deep echo]

beginner?, i mean i already sent

mb

[young tapir]

Yea

[chrome sage]

since i didn't get an answer ill ask again, is there a resource for best practices on detecting overlap for collisions?

[vestal geode]

I'm not sure if there really are resources exactly
The documentation tells you pretty much what's there to know

[steep herald]

Sanity check please. Anchor's parent is container, so essentially giving the view object the same parent, then assigning the same position and rotation.

Works fine the first time this is displayed, second time the view prints (0, 0) and the anchor prints (the real non zero X, 0)

Something does mess with the parent's scale but it should still work fine afaik

var view = ObjectPool.Instance.Take<BasicSpellView>();
view.RectTransform.SetParent(container);
view.transform.localScale = Vector3.one;
view.transform.SetPositionAndRotation(anchor.position, anchor.rotation);
print(view.RectTransform.anchoredPosition);
print(anchor.GetComponent<RectTransform>().anchoredPosition);

[olive ridge]

guys how do i make a mesh that looks something like this?

the big dot is a city, the small dots are vertices, the blue part is the mesh/triangles

most tutorials just tell you how to make a square with it

[steep herald]

@olive ridge same as you'd make any mesh but there's a default import setting that trims loose verts, you have to turn it off if you want to keep them

[hexed pecan]

Are you asking how to generate it with code?

[olive ridge]

pretty sure you cant generate it any other way right?

[hexed pecan]

You can make meshes in a 3D modeling program. People come here with non-code questions all the time so that's why I'm asking

[olive ridge]

oh no i want to make it with code

[hexed pecan]

What would the mesh be used for?

[olive ridge]

as i want it to be a map game so the territory around cities would be dynamic

[olive ridge]

just showing the territory around a city (big dot)

[hexed pecan]

Delaunay triangulation might be useful if you want to turn a bunch of points into a triangulated mesh

And/or voronoi diagrams

[olive ridge]

that thing you can get on github?

https://github.com/Scrawk/Hull-Delaunay-Voronoi?tab=readme-ov-file

[hexed pecan]

Those are just algorithms, but yeah there are implementations on github

[olive ridge]

oh

[hexed pecan]

I have used this https://github.com/nol1fe/delaunator-sharp

[olive ridge]

well how do i do it?

are there tutorials?

[steep herald]

Yes

[olive ridge]

could u send?

[olive ridge]

also whats the setting?

[hexed pecan]

I feel like that advice was more for premade meshes, not generated ones?

[olive ridge]

oh

[hexed pecan]

(Which prompted me to clarify that you are generating it)

[bitter hill]

I want to get the number of frames or just the time left in an animation clip with the animator, is this possible?

[chrome sage]

except I've used overlap circle and its not working. clearly I'm too stupid for this

[steep herald]

Post your detection code

[gray thorn]

    public int FrameNumber;
    public uint SeedState;
    public ReplayFrameFighter[] Fighters;

    public ReplayFrame(int _frameNumber, uint _seedState, int _fighter_count, BaseFighter[] _fighters) {
        FrameNumber = _frameNumber;
        SeedState = _seedState;

        Fighters = new ReplayFrameFighter[_fighter_count];
        var n = 0;
        for  (var i=0;i<_fighters.Length;i++) {
            if (_fighters[i] == null) continue;
            Fighters[n] = new ReplayFrameFighter(i, _fighters[i].input.inputs[0]);
            n++;
            if (n >= _fighter_count) break;
        }
    }

}```
hey im getting a gc.alloc in the `ReplayFrame` constructor. obviously to do with the array, but is there not anyway to just have a fixed array in a struct without generating garbage?

ReplayFrameFighter is a struct if that matters

[vestal arch]

well arrays are ref types if that's what you're asking?

[leaden ice]

You're creating a new array. That's the memory allocation. The contents of the array are irrelevant

also clearly it's not a fixed array because you're initializing it based on _fighter_count

new ReplayFrameFighter will also create garbage here if ReplayFrameFighter is a class

[steady bobcat]

You can use Span<> + stackalloc to allocate an array on the stack to avoid heap gc in a function.

https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/dotnet/csharp/language-reference/operators/stackalloc

[chrome sage]

https://paste.mod.gg/dvgmgkkoeacz/0 last time i did the guy was just freaking out i had a RB in there and wasn't listening when i said 'ya i think its a problem with colCheck'

[steady bobcat]

I was interested what it took to get an array to be allocated inside a struct and from what I can tell, its unsafe only 😦

public unsafe struct MyStruct
{
    fixed int span[5];
}

poo poo c#

[glossy ledge]

sphereOverlap might me a way to check collisions

[thick terrace]

looks like you're likely to be creating a lot of arrays of the same size here so might see some benefit from pooling the arrays rather than allocating new ones per call, depending on how frequent this is

[vestal arch]

fyi, you don't need n here at all
you can just use i

also, do you really need this? could you perhaps add a properties to BaseFighter that give it similar capabilities to ReplayFrameFighter?

that way you could just use the same array in a different way, rather than making a new one

[steady moat]

You could use ArrayPool instead. https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/dotnet/api/system.buffers.arraypool-1?view=net-9.0

[rugged storm]

yo I'm figuring out non mouse UI navigation, how when a new peice of UI to move the selection to that

like for existing Ui at the start of a scene I can use the first selected think in the event system but i dont know how to make that work with seperate UIs, like say the options menu or pause menu

[leaden ice]

make your code select an element in the menu when the menu opens

[swift falcon]

using UnityEngine;

[RequireComponent(typeof(Rigidbody))]
public class PlayerMovement : MonoBehaviour
{
public float moveSpeed;
public float rotationSpeed;

private Rigidbody rb;
private float moveInput;
private float rotationInput;

void Start()
{
    rb = GetComponent<Rigidbody>();
}

void Update()
{
    // Inverted vertical input so W = forward
    moveInput = -Input.GetAxis("Vertical");

    // Left/right rotation input (A/D or Left/Right)
    rotationInput = Input.GetAxis("Horizontal");
}

void FixedUpdate()
{
    // Move forward/backward
    Vector3 move = transform.forward * moveInput * moveSpeed * Time.fixedDeltaTime;
    rb.MovePosition(rb.position + move);

    // Rotate left/right
    float rotation = rotationInput * rotationSpeed * Time.fixedDeltaTime;
    Quaternion turn = Quaternion.Euler(0f, rotation, 0f);
    rb.MoveRotation(rb.rotation * turn);
}

}

i hace a problem. When using the S and D forward, it acts ok, but when i face the error which the right is left and righht is lwft. How can i fix it? (it is for a tank)

[leaden ice]

!code

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[swift falcon]

wjat can i do with that?

i never used that

[swift falcon]

ah

it ccreates

a code like box

i don't get it

fr

[rigid island]

its very easy, copy the code, paste it on the site hit save and send link..

[swift falcon]

https://paste.myst.rs/en0k8alx

[swift falcon]

does it work?

[rigid island]

yes

[swift falcon]

are you able to help me?

it is the sript of making a tank respond to w a s d commands

it partially does

but backwards takes a as d and d as a

[rigid island]

are you talking about rotation ? why not just put -

[swift falcon]

now they are entirely switched, even when i drive forward

what could be the source of problem

[rigid island]

idk check the gizmos of the object is correct

[rigid island]

..lovely you cropped one of the important parts

[swift falcon]

entire

[rigid island]

1. its still in global mode.
2. MovePosition is meant to be used with a kinematic rb

also this should belong in #💻┃code-beginner if even a code problem at all..

[swift falcon]

i am a code beginner but checking is kinematic fixed it. Thanks

[swift falcon]

well, not entirely

[ivory wagon]

anyone know how to fix this it happens when i enter playmode and move my mouse i have a code that makes the camera and character follow the mouse but its not working -_- im trying to get my guy to turn left in right in a first person view but the camera and person is messing up

[chrome sage]

do you mean overlap CIRCLE? because yes i use that. i still pass though the walls only going up still

k is there an up to date top down dungeon tutorial for unity 6? i feel like i should go shoot myself since i cant seem to figure out this basic fucking problem

[rugged storm]

i see like coding wise how? do i get the event is there a "selected UI" variable or the like in the event viewer i just set or a function or?

[leaden ice]

In whatever function you use that opens the menu

Or in OnEnable in a script on the menu

[rugged storm]

i figrued it out was just looking for eventSystem.SetSelectedGameObject

[chrome sage]

so do you people not use rule tiles because they break collisions? or is there other reasons why you should never use rule tiles?

[leaden ice]

Hard to help without seeing your code

[ivory wagon]

ok

ill send it

[leaden ice]

Using MoveRotation in Update is a no-no

also multiplying Time.deltaTime into mouse input - another no-no

[ivory wagon]

ok

thanks

[leaden ice]

And if you plan to move this into FixedUpdate - reading mouse input there would also be bad

you need to read and accumulate the mouse input in Update, then apply/consume it in FixedUpdate

[ivory wagon]

ok thank you i will fix it

[leaden ice]

It's also not totally clear what this is actually for - first person controller?

[ivory wagon]

yeah fps shooter

[leaden ice]

then don't use moveRotation

just do rb.rotation *= Quaternion.Euler(0, mouseX, 0);

and get rid of Time.deltaTime

and you'll be good

(no FixedUpdate)

[ivory wagon]

ok will do this was really helpful thank you.

wait so would something like this work?

using UnityEngine;

public class MouseLook : MonoBehaviour
{
public float sensitivity = 2f;
public Transform cameraHolder;
public Rigidbody playerRigidbody;

float xRotation = 0f;

void Start()
{
    Cursor.lockState = CursorLockMode.Locked;
}

void Update()
{
    float mouseX = Input.GetAxis("Mouse X") * sensitivity;
    float mouseY = Input.GetAxis("Mouse Y") * sensitivity;

    // Vertical camera movement
    xRotation -= mouseY;
    xRotation = Mathf.Clamp(xRotation, -90f, 90f);
    cameraHolder.localRotation = Quaternion.Euler(xRotation, 0f, 0f);

    // Horizontal  body rotation
    playerRigidbody.rotation *= Quaternion.Euler(0f, mouseX, 0f);
}

}

[fathom cove]

!code

[tawny elk]

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[ivory wagon]

what?

[rigid island]

read the bot message

[ivory wagon]

ok

[rigid island]

format the code correctly for others

[neon pivot]

Hey, I'm trying to animate a position from point A to point B using an AnimationCurve, how would that be possible?

[surreal forge]

yo, question, i use playmaker, how i can made a bubble for make some asset invisible when my character go on back of them ? thx ! 🙂

or when we don't see the player

[leaden ice]

make a curve that goes from 0 to 1 in whatever way you wish. Then use the Evaluate function output on the animation curve as the input to Lerp

e.g.

public AnimationCurve myCurve;
public Transform start;
public Transform end;
public float duration = 1f;
float timer;

void Update() {
  timer += Time.deltaTime;
  timer %= duration; // make it loop, just for demonstration purpsoses
  float t = myCurve.Evaluate(timer / duration);
  Vector3 position = Vector3.Lerp(start.position, end.position, t);
  transform.position = position;
}```

[night harness]

Would obviously need to profile it to get contextual answer but just curious, There’s a notable amount of overhead in the act of instantiating something right? Like if I instantiated a prefab that had 8 other prefabs as children that’s gonna be lighter than if i instantiated the first prefab than instantiate each child prefab?

[rigid island]

most likely that's the case

I think I read that in reverse, I meant my assumption would be its heavier doing more objects all at once than spanned over time @night harness

ofc also depends what's on those children / prefab in term of components

[night harness]

oh interesting, im guessing that might depend on the scale in question though right? I'm talking like pretty small overall (eg. imagine an enemy spawning with 3-4 prefabs under it). where i'd imagine maybe there would be more overhead in sending the instansiation requests 4 times rather than just once but i guess it's fairly hard to guess

[rigid island]

imagine you have 8 Start methods running at once doing work , big hitch

[leaden ice]

probably, yes.

Nav has a point but it's more about spreading the work out over multiple frames vs there being less work overall

"notable" is going to be subjective though

[night harness]

fair. I guess in the context of what I was asking about doesn't help though (which i didn't provide so my bad on that, early in the morning aha). Doing fairly vague prototyping of how I want to handle code architecture for generic content in various prototypes and weighing up various solutions to problems i'm running into

In this case I'm thinking about how I kind of want the root of any content prefab to be kinda a BehaviourController/EntityManager with the different types of behaviours (eg. hurtable, interactable, valuable, movable etc.) as children of the parent whether that's literal or just logical rather than just having those behaviours be the main prefab script so i can mix inheritence and composition and all that

but there's a lot I gotta consider when implementing that kinda thing in how everything talks together, what the prefab setup would look like, what the scriptableobject would look like etc. etc.

so just messing around with stuff

[rigid island]

how much work each component does plays a huge part in it as well

[night harness]

yeah forsure. im happy thinking about all this when it comes to items, player, enemies etc. but then my mind panics thinking about how much work i'd be adding to projectiles that die in half a second 😭

I know those should really have just a different solution altogether but i enjoy the idea of having everything managed the same way

[rigid island]

anything you're going to reuse don't forget about Pooling , oh and polling can be other things besides gameobjects too

really does help recycling what you already allocated rather than cleanup , re allocate cleanup and repeat

[night harness]

if you have a serialized base/poco class stored on a prefab there's nothing in the scope of the class itself that is able to tell when it's been created right? since the constructor is run when the prefab asset was made?

[leaden ice]

What's your use case?

You might be able to use https://docs.unity3d.com/ScriptReference/ISerializationCallbackReceiver.html

the constructor will be called on your serialized POCO just... maybe not when you think it will be

[night harness]

I wanted the equivalent to an awake call in my poco class

[leaden ice]

for what purpose though

what do you plan to do there?

[night harness]

I wanted certain logic classes in my monobehaviour that initialized by themselves to certain extents, more-so curious if it's possible than any ironed out vision

it's fine if the answer is just no

[leaden ice]

It just... depends on what kind of initialization we're talking about

that's why I'm probing

if you mean like "I want to do something right after the serialized fields are assigned by the serializer", then the link I posted above is for you.

[night harness]

nah i mean like runtime game logic typa stuff

[leaden ice]

this is for runtime

[night harness]

I just honestly did not consider those run at runtime

even though yeah that makes sense huh

[next estuary]

hi! i just wanted a bit of advise, i have some bugs and i wanted some help, do i ask here or on the beginner one? (i know its dumb)

[leaden ice]

If you're a beginner, then #💻┃code-beginner

[next estuary]

thx

[fair silo]

Hello, I have a code that works for 3 of 4 of my players, but not my 4th player for some reason. Even with the code being the same it just won't assign anything keepint player4Choice void

void BypassSelection()
{
Debug.Log($"BypassSelection: Player 4 choice is {player4Choice}"); // Add this debug log to verify assignment

    player1Choice = "1";
    player1FeedbackText.text = "P1 selected: 1 (Testing Mode)";
    HighlightSelectedButton(player1Buttons, "1");
    DisableButtons(player1Buttons);

    player2Choice = "2";
    player2FeedbackText.text = "P2 selected: 2 (Testing Mode)";
    HighlightSelectedButton(player2Buttons, "2");
    DisableButtons(player2Buttons);

    Debug.LogError("Testing mode: Player 3 choice is set to 5.");
    player3Choice = "5";
    player3FeedbackText.text = "P3 selected: 3 (Testing Mode)";
    //HighlightSelectedButton(player3Buttons, "3");  
    //DisableButtons(player3Buttons);  

    player4Choice = "6";
    player4FeedbackText.text = "P4 selected: 4 (Testing Mode)";
    HighlightSelectedButton(player4Buttons, "4");
    DisableButtons(player4Buttons);

[leaden ice]

whenever you have variables that have numbers like this, it's going to be better to use arrays or lists instead.

Likely you made some kind of copy/paste or typing error somewhere in your code

those errors can be eliminated when you just use arrays and loops instead of duplicating code N times.

anyway this code doesn't make much sense to me, so it's hard to say what's going wrong. It's not clear what this code is supposed to do.

[night harness]

Is serialization synchronous? as in if X object runs OnBeforeSerialize will it's OnAfterSerialize always run before any other objects OnBeforeSerialize will run?

[cosmic rain]

It could be. It could be not. This is probably something you shouldn't rely on.

Work performed in these callbacks must be done with care, as the Unity serializer runs on a different thread from most of the Unity API. It's recommended to process only fields that are directly owned by the object, to keep the processing burden as low as possible.

https://docs.unity3d.com/6000.1/Documentation/ScriptReference/ISerializationCallbackReceiver.html

We can't say for sure if it's just one thread or a pool of threads and there's no guarantee it would stay the same in the future.

[night harness]

Yeah 🤔

Was playing with something like this to allow for a prefab to reference itself as an asset rather than it's own instance

public class PrefabBehaviour : MonoBehaviour, ISerializationCallbackReceiver
{
    private static PrefabBehaviour _serializationTemp;

    [field: SerializeField] public PrefabBehaviour Self { get; private set; }


    void ISerializationCallbackReceiver.OnBeforeSerialize()
    {
        _serializationTemp = Self;
    }

    void ISerializationCallbackReceiver.OnAfterDeserialize()
    {
        if (Self != null && _serializationTemp != null)
        {
            Self = _serializationTemp;
            _serializationTemp = null;
        }
    }
}

I noticed this in the serialization guide

Unity runs the same serialization code in a different variant to report which other UnityEngine.Objects it references. It checks all referenced UnityEngine.Objects to determine if they’re part of the data Unity instantiates. If the reference points to something external, such as a Texture, Unity keeps that reference as it is. If the reference points to something internal, such as a child GameObject, Unity patches the reference to the corresponding copy.
and realised in theory you could use these callbacks to quickly chuck the reference out of the patchers eyesight and slide it back in after the fact

[cosmic rain]

Feels a bit unstable to me. What's the purpose of this?

Why not just hold references to the prefabs in, say, other prefab or an SO?

[night harness]

Def giving osha violation vibes, just testing the waters abit

Potentially has some nice benefits when dealing with networking for specific reasons that im forgetting but i remember I was looking for a way to do this

I think it was due to how it could help manage the order of execution of content spawning because without multiplayer i'd tend to just spawn a prefab via reference on a so then give the instance the so so it knows what data to care about, but in networking as a client I can't directly get a reference to the object i requested to spawn because that's an rpc that has to travel to everyone? something like that

would be cool to reliably do in general just for the sake of doing it though

[cosmic rain]

Well, just don't instantiate objects via an rpc. Make a proxy method that handles the instantiation and initialization on the client.

There are probably many good ways to go about it without relying on the approach with serialization that you brought up(there are probably other issues with it).

[night harness]

Probably

To be honest I think there's an aspect to it where I just don't like that I can't do it 😛

[cosmic rain]

That's something you just have to accept when working with third party close sourced engines.

You have to accept the rules of the game.
Or go and write your own engine/modify an open source one.

[night harness]

we'll see i guess 😄

[wild nebula]

In Unity Localization, how do you add a list as argument?
{0:list:{typeName}: {fromValue} -> {toValue}|\n}
Right now I am trying to make item description from these.

Example description:
Damage: 5 -> 7
Agility: 3 -> 5
Defense: 1 -> 2

[glossy ledge]

I see you use transform to move your collider(https://paste.mod.gg/dvgmgkkoeacz/0) , you should probably use moveposition (https://docs.unity3d.com/6000.1/Documentation/ScriptReference/Rigidbody.MovePosition.html) and definitely check what type of collision detection you are using (Discrete/continuous etc) , as teh default collision is good for basic stuff, not so much when things get a bit more complicated

[olive ridge]

le issue: it seems that whenever i move circles it seems that theyre too stupid to realise that their target circle's position also changes relative to them and ends up causing what you see in the video, how do i fix it?

the relevant code for it is this

    {
        List<Vector3> points = new List<Vector3>();
        float circumferenceProgressPerStep = (float)1/sides;
        float TAU = 2*Mathf.PI;
        float radianProgressPerStep = circumferenceProgressPerStep*TAU;

            for (int currentStep = 0; currentStep < sides; currentStep++)
            {
                float currentRadian = radianProgressPerStep * currentStep;

                GameObject dot = Instantiate(spawnDot, new Vector3(Mathf.Cos(currentRadian), Mathf.Sin(currentRadian), 0) * radius, Quaternion.identity);

                Vector2 Dpos = dot.transform.position;
                Vector2 Tpos = targetCity1.transform.position;

                anotherfuckingscript targetScript = targetCity1.GetComponent<anotherfuckingscript>();

                float distanceFromTarget = Vector2.Distance(Dpos,Tpos);
                
                    if(distanceFromTarget < targetScript.radius)
                    {
                        float angle = Mathf.Atan2(Tpos.y - Dpos.y, Tpos.x - Dpos.x) * Mathf.Rad2Deg;
                        dot.transform.rotation = Quaternion.Euler(0,0,angle);
                        float distanceFromRadiusEdge = Mathf.Abs(distanceFromTarget - targetScript.radius);
                        dot.transform.Translate(-distanceFromRadiusEdge/2f, 0f, 0f, Space.Self);
                    }

                points.Add(dot.transform.position);
                Destroy(dot);
            }
        return points;
    } ```

[vestal arch]

what's the expected behaviour? that the unmoved circle stays the same?

[olive ridge]

no, that the moved circle properly recognises where target circle is and deforms properly

[vestal arch]

you're leaving out quite a bit of context here
what would "deforming properly" be? which is the target?

[olive ridge]

ok, so i decided to see where the said vertices spawn and it seems they dont move with the circle

[olive ridge]

you ever played agario? you seen how the circles deform whenever theyre close to one another? i want roughly that to happen

[vestal arch]

so the unmoved circle is deforming correctly, but the one you're moving should also deform in a similar way?

[olive ridge]

ok yeah you dont know what i want

[vestal arch]

yeah im not psychic lol

is getCircumferencePoints the function that generates the circle? check where it's being called from

[karmic sand]

Im trying to make procedural terrain and its working fine when i have no falloff but if i do then the X axis works fine and the chunks for it line up but the Y(Z) axis has massive gaps between the seams and i cant seem to figure out why that is. i can provide more code if needed but i think its an error in this code here somewhere.

float[,] heightFinalValues = new float[width, height];
for (int x = 0; x < width; x++)
{
    for (int y = 0; y < height; y++)
    {
        float noiseSum = 0;
        float maxPossibleVal = 0;
        for (int k = 0; k < heightMapSettings.noiseLayers.Length; k++)
        {
            noiseSum += noiseLayers[k, x, y] * heightMapSettings.noiseLayers[k].strength;
            maxPossibleVal += heightMapSettings.noiseLayers[k].strength;
        }
        int chunkSizeInVerts = meshSettings.numVertsPerLine;
        // Adjust based on chunk's world position (coord)
        int chunkOffsetX = (int)(coord.x * (chunkSizeInVerts - 1));
        int chunkOffsetY = (int)(coord.y * (chunkSizeInVerts - 1));
        // Falloff map's center
        int halfFalloffMapSizeX = fullFalloffMap.GetLength(0) / 2;
        int halfFalloffMapSizeY = fullFalloffMap.GetLength(1) / 2;
        // Calculate global indices with offsets
        int globalX = x + chunkOffsetX + halfFalloffMapSizeX;
        int globalY = y + chunkOffsetY + halfFalloffMapSizeY;
        // Clamp to avoid out-of-bounds access
        globalX = Mathf.Clamp(globalX, 0, fullFalloffMap.GetLength(0) - 1);
        globalY = Mathf.Clamp(globalY, 0, fullFalloffMap.GetLength(1) - 1);
        float falloff = fullFalloffMap[globalX, globalY];
        float baseHeight = heightCurve_threadsafe.Evaluate(noiseSum / maxPossibleVal) * heightMapSettings.heightMultiplier;
        heightFinalValues[x, y] = baseHeight * falloff;
        if (heightFinalValues[x, y] > maxValue)
        {
            maxValue = heightFinalValues[x, y];
        }
        if (heightFinalValues[x, y] < minValue)
        {
            minValue = heightFinalValues[x, y];
        }
    }
}
return new HeightMap(heightFinalValues, minValue, maxValue);

heres an image of the issue

[glossy ledge]

What am I missing here?
I am trying to draw a line (using linerenderer) in the inverse direction of the touch position, which in and of itself works, but as the video shows for some reason I can only draw it from the world origin if I want the linerenderer to stay "flat"(so no banking) , or draw it from the right position but getting back that annoying rotation stuff.

The code is in the video and here as well:
https://pastebin.com/TpiUuVwF

[cold parrot]

looks like you're accumulating a small offset in the Z axis while iterating

[wide bobcat]

im using unity 2D and i dont get what i did wrong here, stafield not even showing up in the front no matter what i did

i've tried for almost 2d now and dont understand why it isnt showing up

[cold parrot]

not a code issue

[wide bobcat]

oh

where can i actually get help

from that

[karmic sand]

hmmm, weird that its doing it for the Z and not the X, ive checked pretty much everywhere and it calculates it the same way

[cold parrot]

there is probably just a tiny mistake in that generator code

i would check all + operations

[wide bobcat]

what is the proper channel for help for what i need

[cold parrot]

#✨┃vfx-and-particles

[wide bobcat]

alr thanks

[devout ruin]

Hi! I have a silly question, I use the fbx exporter to export my various Unity assets to FBX. However, when I select my 400 assets and export them all at once, they will all be in a single .fbx file. My question is: can I export them all at once, but have them all be independent (one .fbx per asset, as if I were exporting them individually)?

I've coded a Python program to automate some mesh modifications on Blender and I need them to be individual .fbx. Thanks 😉

[dire pelican]

!code

[tawny elk]

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[cold parrot]

you can make yourself a script that exports them individually

[steady bobcat]

The unity glfast package is better and will keep objects seperate by default when exporting game objects as GLB
https://docs.unity3d.com/Packages/com.unity.cloud.gltfast@6.12/manual/index.html

[cold parrot]

but you wont have an FBX 😕

[steady bobcat]

if its just to edit in blender and then re export i dont see a problem

[devout ruin]

Mmmh, I'll have to see, because if the scale ratio isn't the same as for the FBX exporter, it'll bother me a bit, but I'll just have to adjust my .py script. I'll test it.

[devout ruin]

Thanks, I just wanted to know if it was already planned 😉

[steady bobcat]

well do whats best for you, its another option

[quartz sun]

Hi I'm trying to create a wall jump mechanic but i think I'm going about it the wrong way? Here is my code:

[steep herald]

@quartz sun Vector2.left is (-1, 0), Vector2.up is (0, 1)

By multiplying the vectors, ur scaling 1 vector's components by the other.

x => -1 * 0 = 0,
y => 0 * 1 = 0
result (0 ,0)

and then it doesn't matter what you scale the vector with

[quartz sun]

The player movement is better now but there is the issue now with the updated code I added which makes the jump very rigid

[steep herald]

So when youre applying an impulse, you dont scale with the delta in time. It's not a continuously applied force, it's a response to an action that should be consistent across all occurrences of that action.

Here, even scaled by the dt(and it shouldn't be) the impulse is still very large. You need to reason about the final value of that impulse and how it'll affect your movement.

[sweet fulcrum]

getting this error when dragging in gridview

[dire pelican]

I'm trying to make this building area but my current method of collision detection is pretty dumb. I'm just drawing a ray from the camera to the cursor and setting the position of whatever object I'm holding to the intersection between the ray and other objects

And that's leading to stuff like this where one object clips inside another. How would I go about fixing this?

I could do something along the lines of- inch the object I'm holding forward in the direction of the ray starting from the camera until it touches something, but that sounds inaccurate and pretty annoying. Is there a better way?

Turns out sphere/capsule casts are a thing. Thanks anyways

[cold parrot]

Depends what on what your goals are. One way is to place objects only on allowed surfaces that define a grid. Then check all grid positions nearby and pick the best one based on some metric you define

[dire pelican]

A grid could work but I'd rather use something continuous. I got it now though, thanks

[cold parrot]

A grid can be arbitrarily small and solve a lot of issues that continuous solutions have

[dire pelican]

That's fair.

[cold parrot]

Float solutions are just using a grid that scales based on number size and is unpredictable

[dire pelican]

That makes sense

[whole sorrel]

Is there a cheat sheet for what type of level procgen algorithm to use depending on the use cases?

[unkempt meadow]

How is it possible that my coroutine gets called multiple times even when the first lines of the IEnumerator are flipping the higher and lower bools?:

if (lowCrawl && lower &&!higher &&!transitioning)
{
higher = true;
lower = false;
StartCoroutine(GetHigher());
}

[dire pelican]

A grid for things like capsules sounds like a nightmare though.

[vestal arch]

well, look at where you're resetting them, maybe that's getting called when it shouldn't.
if you can't figure it out just from looking at those, time to start debugging those values

[unkempt meadow]

What do you mean? I'm setting them right here in the code snipper.

The other bools are irrelevant as the coroutine is getting called multiple times, meaning they are the right value anyway

The question is why should the coroutine be called again when higher is true and lower is false?

[vestal arch]

where are you resetting them back to higher = false or lower = true

[vestal arch]

well if it's called from here, then higher is true and lower is false is wrong
like i said, try debugging the values over time in Update or something

also maybe you have multiple of this component, whether that's on purpose or not

[unkempt meadow]

I'm sorry I don't understand. Conditions are met, then I flip them so the coroutine doesn't get called again...I did that flip in the coroutine and moved here just in case, but that didn't fix it

[unkempt meadow]

nope, one script and one object

[vestal arch]

and you never flip them back?

where else are lower/higher getting set?

[unkempt meadow]

oh my god I'm a moron

nvm fixed

it wasn't that, it was something stupider than that

[cold parrot]

obviously thats not how you'd implement it, a grid doesn't actually exist in a scene, its just a discretization of a continuous space which you perform during your calculations.

[unkempt meadow]

I want to check whether the tunnel in front of my is getting narrower. So far I'm sending two rays, one higher than the other, towards move direction

If the higher ray hits and lower doesn't, that's a positive result for me...but that's very unreliable. How can I improve this?

For example, I could extend the distance of the rays and compares the distances between the two hits AND check surface normal angle for better certainty.

Is this better? Anything else?

[chrome sage]

i didn't realize 'four directional grid movement' qualified as 'a bit more complicated', my bad i guess. i don't even think transform vs moveposition even mattered here, turning off my composite collider on the walls fixed my issue, now the box collider seems to move one square south too far and one square north not enough. (had the south issue before the composite turn off)

[leaden ice]

Use a CapsuleCast or SphereCast

[rugged storm]

how would i add sound effects to UI, navigation? like more specifically i guess how do i detect the event system switching selected UI elements, i can figure out the playing sounds part

[leaden ice]

UI OnSelect event / ISelectHandler

[rugged storm]

also another issue is i notice that what ever UI is selected, gets deselected when clicking, how do i disable this or reselect when a controller input is detected or something?

[leaden ice]

It's a setting on your input module

[rugged storm]

tysm!

Yo does unity have godot like autoloads? Or only normal singletons?

[night harness]

There’s no official implementation of that but you could recreate it in a couple different ways

[rugged storm]

How so? Currently the closest I've had is putting my 'dontdestroyonload' singletons in basically every scene I plan to run regularly

[cosmic rain]

Is it something intended for editor or the final game?

[rugged storm]

Besides the ones on the starting scene the rest are for the editor ofc, a autoloads system like godots would eliminate the need for that

[cosmic rain]

There's initialize on load attribute that can be used to initialize stuff outside of scenes. As well as some editor callbacks.
If it's an editor tool, you should make an editor script or something. Other than that, placing a singleton in the scene is the right way.

[winter crescent]

i got a error message saying i need a animator conponment, what does that mean

[leaden ice]

Show the actual error message

[swift falcon]

I want to create a separate object that I can use in multiple classes derived by mono behavior. I have been looking for references relevant to that. It's poco, something we use in normal c# programming.
I have an idea how to code it but Monobehavior restricts a lot of it.

[leaden ice]

#🏃┃animation

[cosmic rain]

This sounds like something related specifically to VR chat, so you should ask in their community. !vrc

!vrchat

[tawny elk]

Join the growing VRChat community as you explore, play, and create the future of social VR! https://discord.com/invite/vrchat

[leaden ice]

You can use any and all C# features in Unity. There are no restrictions on using POCOs.

[swift falcon]

That's what I have been trying to figure out.

[leaden ice]

Do you have a specific question?

[swift falcon]

It is in my previous message?

[leaden ice]

I answered it

There is nothing preventing you from doing anything you do in "normal C# programming" in Unity

[swift falcon]

perhaps if I share my code you'll understand what specifically I am trying to achieve?

[leaden ice]

that would be great

I don't understand what you're asking

what do you mean by "my code breaks"?

Also are these snippets from two different classes?

You didn't share what any of this is: RockPool.rockPoolInstance.GetPooledGameObject();

so it's hard to tell what that;s calling

[swift falcon]

this is the same class

[leaden ice]

or what's going wrong

so what do you mean by "my code breaks"?

What are you expecting to happen and what actually happens?

It might be helpful if you made a thread

[swift falcon]

okay

[swift falcon]

I think I figured it out, thank you. This was a confusing question to ask even for me. This was do-able but we don't normally think about scalability unless it is a big project, so maybe that might have confused everyone when I asked if they know any references for SOLID.

thanks again.

if you initialize it in the same FixedUpdate, it will keep refreshing the index

[leaden ice]

I'm gonna be honest, I still have no idea what you were asking here.

[swift falcon]

but you at least made effort to understand and try to help me out, even if you were clueless, so I thanked you for that. I left a code up there, it might help, because it is working now. The problem was setting the values once every time the timer is 0. When I tried it it started refreshing index but it wouldn't give me the error or anything.

if you still like me to move this to thread, I'll do that.

[lean sail]

is there still an issue here? because I also have no clue what you're asking here, even from reading the initial message.
that is some extremely questionable code too

[swift falcon]

how is it questionable?

I am not going to keep on repeating myself if you guys don't understand you guys don't understand. Lets just leave it at that.

line 41 is ShootSytem.play(); and gunscriptable object is the glock model it says i have an error while shooting my gun and i dont see any errors

[swift falcon]

this is a null reference

you need to initialize your gun

or the game object that you're trying to use here.

[lean sail]

Well for one, the hardcoded GameObject.Find calls in a row. But since you've deleted it I cant answer more...
As for ur 2nd message, people are trying to help, the way you've worded questions are extremely vague and just generally dont make sense. Repeating it or saying you wrote it above doesnt help yourself get help.

[lean sail]

Dont crosspost #📖┃code-of-conduct

[swift falcon]

ok my bad

[swift falcon]

Oh that, it is wiser to get the objects from your game scene or from the resources. Thankfully I didn't post my object pool code where I am getting prefabs from the resource folders. The second message was I was looking for a way to initialize an object once and reinitialize an object when the timer runs out without using any coroutines because coroutines is an expensive call, or so I've heared.

so I asked here if anyone have any reference or a site or even a section of this community that has any remote reference of pocos being used to code in unity.

[lean sail]

When I said 2nd message I was specifically referring to the 2nd message in your response to me #archived-code-general message
You also dont need to get prefabs via resources. You can literally just drag and drop them as a reference

[swift falcon]

What if you have many prefabs and you want to cycle through them with random index?

[lean sail]

In regards to your coroutine part: Using a timer vs a coroutine is fine here. I doubt you'll ever run into issues with coroutines here. Youd really have to be starting a lot of them to see a performance difference. The profiler would give you more insight to these things too

[lean sail]

You can make a list and it will show in inspector. Drag and drop them into the inspector either way

Cycle through them with a random index isnt related to the whole Resources vs drag and drop

[swift falcon]

So you'd rather suggest dragging and dropping 100s of objects into inspector than selecting them by labels, names, and tags?

interesting

in that case maybe I am asking questions that no one here ever heard of, makes my questions sound vague.

[night harness]

sounds like a pretty standard question

[swift falcon]

No, one isn't related to the other, but you still have to select them some how.

[lean sail]

If you're using resources or GameObject.Find on 100s of objects in the first place you're gonna have problems. It's not like you're dealing with 100s of objects in random folders, or different sets of 100 objects every day. You can select them all > drag and drop.

The code you deleted above literally had line by line GameObject.Find to populate a list so I dont see how you're thinking dragging is worse here

[night harness]

Or depending on the context /type of content break that big list down into a list of lists

[swift falcon]

I will post it again if you like, I was selecting them for testing by using GameObject.Find later on it would've been resources.loadAll("folderpath");

[night harness]

Yeah in most cases a ScriptableObject holding a list is preferable than resources

[swift falcon]

I got scared because bawsi said "your code is questionable" so I deleted it

[swift falcon]

ya, I think I am just reading into code.

Thank you guys for this discussion.

void Start()
    {
        rockSpawners.Add(GameObject.Find("rockSpawn1L"));
        rockSpawners.Add(GameObject.Find("rockSpawn2L"));
        rockSpawners.Add(GameObject.Find("rockSpawn3L"));
        rockSpawners.Add(GameObject.Find("rockSpawn1R"));
        rockSpawners.Add(GameObject.Find("rockSpawn2R"));
        rockSpawners.Add(GameObject.Find("rockSpawn3R"));
        rockSpawners.Add(GameObject.Find("rockSpawn1T"));
        rockSpawners.Add(GameObject.Find("rockSpawn2T"));
        rockSpawners.Add(GameObject.Find("rockSpawn3T"));
        rockSpawners.Add(GameObject.Find("rockSpawn1B"));
        rockSpawners.Add(GameObject.Find("rockSpawn2B"));
        rockSpawners.Add(GameObject.Find("rockSpawn3B"));
        time = 500f;
        index = Random.Range(0, rockSpawners.Count);
    }

    void FixedUpdate()
    {
        time--;
        if(time == 0)
        {
            Debug.Log("TIME IS: " + time);
            index = Random.Range(0, rockSpawners.Count);
            spawnerTransform = rockSpawners[index].transform;
            rock = RockPool.rockPoolInstance.GetPooledGameObject();
            ReInitObject(index, spawnerTransform, rock);
            time = 500f;
        }
    }

    void ReInitObject(int index, Transform spawner, GameObject rock)
    {
        PooledObject currentPooledObject = new PooledObject();

        currentPooledObject.currentIndex = index;
        currentPooledObject.currentRockSpanwer = spawner;
        currentPooledObject.currentRock = rock;
        
        if(rock != null)
        {
            currentPooledObject.currentRock.transform.position = currentPooledObject.currentRockSpanwer.transform.position;
            currentPooledObject.currentRock.transform.rotation = currentPooledObject.currentRockSpanwer.transform.rotation;
            currentPooledObject.currentRock.SetActive(true);
        }
    }

Here is the code bawsi, have at it.

[lean sail]

Either one should pretty much be avoided here. The list should just be exposed to inspector by [SerializeField] and drop the items in. You could use a scriptable object if you see a purpose there, you'll be putting the items into the SO then referencing the SO in your monobehaviour.

[swift falcon]

!!Interesting, I'll keep that in mind

is GameObject.Find("object") is an expensive call too?

[rigid island]

it has to scan all objects , also string are very error prone

[lean sail]

You probably wont notice any lag from this but it's definitely relatively expensive. Since this would be searching the entire scene compared to already having the reference.
Its better to avoid it because its fragile. If the name of the object ever changes 3 months later, suddenly this code stops working and you'll be wondering why

[swift falcon]

That's actually a good point.

never actually thought of it this way, I only thought "what if you were to select 100-1000 objects"

Thank you guys

[night harness]

Also if multiple objects have that name

[wild nebula]

Anyone familiar with using list for localization?

I need to pass down list to an argument, I assume its done this way?
{0:list:{typeName}: {fromValue} -> {toValue}|\n}

Right now I am trying to make item description from these.
Example description:
Damage: 5 -> 7
Agility: 3 -> 5
Defense: 1 -> 2

I have a struct with Enum StatsType, float fromValue, and float toValue.

So I have a List<StatOptionDescription> that I can pass down to.
But I am not sure how to properly pass them down so that it can work with LocalizedString.

[hasty canopy]

Hello, does Unity's playable API support target matching?

[quick elbow]

Anyone know how I can enable nullable for just my scripts? I'd like to get warnings in both Unity and Visual Studio

[young yacht]

void Start(){
        playerInput.UI.Click.Disable();
        playerInput.Player.Disable();
        playerInput.UI.Disable();
}

does anyone know how to disable mouse clicks? i have this main menu and everytime i start the game and click with the mouse it deselects the button selected

[last quarry]

How is a single LogStringToConsole call taking 60 milliseconds?

[quartz folio]

presumably to do stack trace extraction

[last quarry]

So this goes away in a release build?

[quartz folio]

Not if you've got stack traces enabled

#if !UNITY_EDITOR && !DEVELOPMENT_BUILD
      // Remove stack traces for Debug.Log and Debug.LogWarning.
      // If something is important enough for traces it should be an error or exception.
      Application.SetStackTraceLogType(LogType.Log, StackTraceLogType.None);
      Application.SetStackTraceLogType(LogType.Warning, StackTraceLogType.None);
#endif

[last quarry]

Thanks, that makes sense

[unkempt meadow]

Yeah, that too

Although what I added seems to be working fine for now

But I should maybe replace rays with capsules

[regal crag]

could someone have a look at this and tell me why do I accelerate when I slide upwards? is there some error in my math?
https://paste.mod.gg/pwxbljplxhyv/0

[cosmic rain]

Try adding a breakpoint and inspecting the relevant variables when the issue happens

[regal crag]

gimme a sec lemme check some numbers

my computer is so potato

ffs give me a bit more time

[mossy wedge]

can someone make this make sense to me?
Code snippet:

        Debug.Log($"Keys in playerGameObjects: {string.Join(", ", playerGameObjects.Value.Value.Keys)}");
        Debug.Log($"ContainsKey({LocalClientId}): {playerGameObjects.Value.Value.ContainsKey(LocalClientId)}");
        Debug.Log($"playerGameObjects.Value is null: {playerGameObjects.Value == null}");
        Debug.Log($"playerGameObjects.Value.Value is null: {playerGameObjects.Value.Value == null}");

        if (playerGameObjects.Value.Value.TryGetValue(LocalClientId, out var player))
        {
            Debug.Log("Entry found");
            localPlayer = player.MapToANetworkObject().gameObject;
        }
        else
        {
            StringBuilder stringBuilder = new StringBuilder();
            stringBuilder.AppendLine("Player Remapping Failed");
            stringBuilder.AppendLine("Context dump: ");
            stringBuilder.AppendLine($"Local id {LocalClientId}");
            foreach (var item in playerGameObjects.Value.Value)
            {
                stringBuilder.AppendLine(item.ToString());
            }
            Debug.LogError(stringBuilder.ToString());

        }

Logs:
Keys in playerGameObjects: 0
ContainsKey(0): False
playerGameObjects.Value is null: False
playerGameObjects.Value.Value is null: False
Player Remapping Failed
Context dump:
Local id 0
[0, NetworkEntityRef]

[cosmic rain]

Might want to explain what the issue is. The logs make total sense to me.

[mossy wedge]

i am trying to access a dictionary by TryGetValue with the key LocalClientId, but the TryGet fails and logs the remapping failed, but the logs do indicate that the LocalClientId (0) is present

[cosmic rain]

I'd try stepping through that code with a debugger.

[quartz folio]

What type is the ID?

[mossy wedge]

ulong

and the key is a custom struct

[quartz folio]

Well that seems likely to be the issue

[mossy wedge]

whats wrong?

[quartz folio]

Have you implemented GetHashCode and Equals appropriately with your struct?

[mossy wedge]

no

[quartz folio]

Is your struct simply a wrapper on your ulong?
If you're using it as a key to a set you should override both of those methods for performance reasons anyway

[mossy wedge]

ye it wraps a ulong i use to track objects (with some utility functions)

[cosmic rain]

I'm not sure why you think a ulong would be equal to a struct then.

But anyways, I'd start with debugging the code with a debugger.

[mossy wedge]

i didn't expect them to be equated directly

implemented those functions and now stuff works

Thanks for the help

[regal crag]

looks like friction is applied incorrectly because of the increasing acceleration

but the maths work out logically

another point might be my code blocking people from riding slopes

and the maths there didn't work out

                {
                    // check to see if player is in same direction as the resultant velocity
                    if (Vector3.Dot(movementForce, currentVelocity + movementForce) > 0f)
                    {
                        // get the normal of the obstruction
                        var obstructionNormal = Vector3.Cross
                        (
                            motor.CharacterUp,
                            Vector3.Cross
                            (
                                motor.CharacterUp,
                                motor.GroundingStatus.GroundNormal
                            )

                        ).normalized;

                        // prevent movement force that would boost the player
                        movementForce = Vector3.ProjectOnPlane(movementForce, obstructionNormal);
                    }
                }```

so presumably i either flipped a vector here or the ProjectOnPlane actually accelerated the player

when i was sliding upwards

my deduction is since the code only have problem when I slide upward, the vector here is wrong

[cosmic rain]

Well, debug it. Either add debug rays to see the relevant vectors in the game or step through the code and see their values.

Project on plane can't produce a vector with bigger magnitude than the input vector.

[regal crag]

I used some debug rays and did find out that the magnitude was much larger than expected, which confused me when I reviewed the code

can't seem to pinpoint where it got wrong even with breakpoints

[cosmic rain]

To me the obstructionNormal calculation is weird. I'm not sure what you're trying to achieve with it and why.

[regal crag]

I'm trying to get the normal of the obstruction so the player wouldn't slide upwards by spamming the slide button

[cosmic rain]

I don't see anything related to obstructions in it though. Only ground normal and character up.

[regal crag]

whenever when the player isn't grounded (is not stable on ground) but still find ground (obstruction)

[cosmic rain]

You should probably visualize the related vectors in the game to see if they match your expectations

Or as I said earlier, step through the code and see if the values match your expectations

[regal crag]

I'll try again and see if the grounding normal has any problems

[azure frost]

So, I'm working with a modified Kinematic Character Controller, and I used it's "Charging" tutorial to make a Rolling ability.

https://assetstore.unity.com/packages/tools/physics/kinematic-character-controller-99131?srsltid=AfmBOop1MQShdPTUeQwhp7wgt997XCZpNYBhj53IB21WHlD1f6iriIT-
(This is the thing.)

However, the whole ability is quite bork'd. And it has strange interactions with Water.

Here is how water should behave, roughly.

And here's what happens when I try rolling into it.

But curiously, it ONLY happens the first time I enter water, and ONLY when rolling into it.

And here's the error that comes up.

[somber nacelle]

show code

[azure frost]

Should I just post the C# files wholesale?

[somber nacelle]

!code

[tawny elk]

Posting code

📃 Large Code Blocks

Use links to services like:
https://paste.mod.gg/, https://hastebin.skyra.pw/, https://paste.ofcode.org/, https://paste.myst.rs/, https://scriptbin.xyz/

📃 Inline Code

Surround code with three backquotes. Not quotation marks.
To format as C#, add cs to the first line:
```cs
// Your code here
```
Add a comment with a line number if there is an error message.

[somber nacelle]

wait, it doesn't even seem to be your code, the error points to example code from the asset

[azure frost]

https://paste.mod.gg/glndxvydymrt/0
Okay, this is the Character Controller Script.

(And I edited the Example Code, just to clear that up.)

If I need to post the motor script as well, let me know.

[somber nacelle]

_waterZone is null there. i'm not going to comb through code that isn't even yours to find out why it might be null though.

[azure frost]

Okay, I have turned "private Collider _waterZone;" into public.

The water zone appears to be whatever water volume the player is currently swimming in. And somehow, Rolling causes the player to enter the swimming state without getting an assigned water zone.

[junior flicker]

the slightly blue cells should be way more blue basically, if they weren't affected

[leaden ice]

Doesn't seem code related

[junior flicker]

partly, but you're right it's mostly visual I'll move this, thank you

[azure frost]

Okay, I fixed my problem. I just had to update the water detection function to be extended to all states that weren't swimming.

[cosmic rain]

Not just grounding but all the intermediate vectors as well

[safe flame]

hey yall, losing my mind over what i "think" is code logic again:

The idea behind what i'm trying to do is to make the camera fade to black during the monster's kill animation, however the fade never happens for some reason and you can see the void as the player is being teleported back to the beginning

I've verified that the camera DOES fade if i change the priority within inspector, and the player.FadeToBlack() function is also called during runtime

The flow of the script goes:
Player is killed, monster's kill animation starts
-> during the monster's kill animation, it calls ResetMonster(), which just makes it so that it's not triggering the player kill multiple times, but also invokes the GameOver() event for the game manager
-> Gamemanager tells player to fade to black (change priority of the fadetoblack camera on the player), then triggers an event to reset the game
-> Roommanager.RestartRoomManager() is called, which teleports the player and monster back to their beginning positions
-> player.RespawnPlayer() is called, sets fadetoblack back to 0 so the camera should be in its normal state

https://paste.ofcode.org/QQdgJLazdUCiZBt9jh6gUW

[somber nacelle]

the issue is likely that you're changing the priority to 2 and then back to 0 all within the same frame within the same method chain so nothing else is happening during that time that the priority is 2

you don't want to set it back to 0 until after the transition

[safe flame]

Ok ok, I'll take a look at what i can do

[safe flame]

Though how could i achieve this? Because in Type.ResetLevel I'm teleporting the player & monster, and then right after that's done, the priority is set to 0

[somber nacelle]

and that all happens within the same frame.
Imagine this scenario:
I have a $5 bill, you want this $5 bill to buy a drink from a vending machine. I then stop time, place the money in your hand, then immediately take it back and resume time. Were you able to spend that $5 at the vending machine?

This is essentially what you are doing with the priority for the camera, there is no time that passes between when you set it to 2 and when you set it back to 0

[safe flame]

Oh yeah I understand that, I mean how do I make the time flow "as intended", I thought maybe coroutines would've helped but no dice

[somber nacelle]

wdym "no dice"? that definitely would work provided you actually wait in the coroutine

otherwise, you might need to unspaghettify your code and use some more events (like an event that triggers when the transition is complete)

[safe flame]

Alright, I might've screwed up with the coroutine placement when I tried, I'll take a look again

I also did spend quite a bit of time unspaghettifying the code (it was way way worse than this lol), but I'm not against doing more of that

Though i might ask assistance regarding that when the time comes, the current state of the codebase is as much as I could do

[naive swallow]

I think this happened in an episode of JoJo's once

[safe flame]

Dio did kind of fuck with Polnareff like that

tried to go up some stairs and Dio kept placing him back down

being on topic, not sure what i did before with my coroutine, but i got some form of progress now

[hardy pasture]

Well did you search it? What did you find? Here's what I found:

https://www.reddit.com/r/Unity3D/comments/sr69a2/how_do_i_enable_nullable_reference_types_for_my/

[quick elbow]

I did, but it doesn’t seem to be working for me so figured I’d ask here to see what others have tried

[chilly surge]

The csc.rsp part will get Unity to compile with NRT.

For VS/VS Code, I use a Directory.Build.props file:

<Project>
  <PropertyGroup>
    <Nullable>enable</Nullable>
  </PropertyGroup>
</Project>

I don't know if Rider respects it or not.

(Instead of Directory.Build.props you can also use an editor script to modify the generated .csproj files, but that's a lot more work for the same result)

[heady iris]

I have a List<TrackInfo> here. TrackInfo contains a number of [SerializeReference]-attributed fields. All of them have field initializers, but when I add an item to the list, everything starts out null anyway.

I added that "huh" field to check that default values work at all. It's a regular int field, and that works fine.

I also checked that field initializers work for [SerializeReference] fields that aren't part of an object stored in a list, and that works fine too.

I guess I'm going to need to add a button to the inspector that adds an item to the list and populates its fields

[zinc flax]

I think unity particle is broken because I forced every Z axis of my particles and they ALWAYS drift away from camera in Z axis!!!

Only solution I found was fixing their Z axis inside shader in vert function... But this is not an actual fix.
https://pastebin.com/cKZ1cmTY
what is going on here??? Why are they always drifting away in Z axis? This is stupid...

[quick elbow]

Tried what you suggested, but VS is still giving me warnings 😦

[chilly surge]

Where are you putting the file?

[quick elbow]

@chilly surge At the root of my assembly

I have an asmdef at the root of my assembly in a folder. I put the csc.rsp and the Directory.Build.props next to the asmdef

[chilly surge]

Hmm I'm not sure that work, I think the file has to be on the same level (or above) the .csproj file.

[glossy ledge]

In case anyone else has had similar problems I finally managed to fix it:
https://pastebin.com/aQXt2dNQ

Still want to clamp the length of the arrow , but am happy that it finally works

[astral fiber]

when I am in a scene and I look at the Scene view, the text looks perfect, not blurry at all, but when I go into game it has like weird rectangles around the letters. I tried increasing padding to 10-15-20pixels but it fixed the rectangles but it made the letters feel weird like choppy, in the scene it looks decent but at the game the letters are like low quality, anyone knows a fix?

[hexed oak]

If I have an event that is supposed to trigger at frame 10 of a video playing, but the video happens to skip frame 10, is there a way to try and make sure that event is hit anyways?

[zinc flax]

has anyone else had problem with particles velocity? Im creating a 2D game using meshes and creating particles with meshes. I completely locked their Z position everywhere even added a Z clamp in update for every particles. I also tested disabling any velocity completely. Particles always drift away from camera in Z axis no matter what!! im getting frustrated , I have been trying to solve this the entire day.

[hexed oak]

screenshot?

[hexed oak]

gravity being applied to particles?

[zinc flax]

try frame == 11 ? or check previous frame and current frame then check if frame 10 has been skipped.

also no I even tested no gravity with my particles.

[hexed oak]

I'm trying to cover if arbitrary frames are skipped, not specifically frame 10.

[zinc flax]

so you need to detect for any frame skip happening?

[hexed oak]

yep

[zinc flax]

then do something like this:

float expectedFrameTime = 1f / 60f;
float skipThreshold = 0.005f;

void Update()
{
float delta = Time.unscaledDeltaTime;

if (delta > expectedFrameTime + skipThreshold)
{
    Debug.Log($"Frame skipped. Delta time: {delta:F4}");
}

}

[hexed oak]

what does your emission collider look like

[bronze maple]

im not to sure on where to go to ask for help for this im starting to get into some sort of developing and trying to run this starter project file i have to test out movemtn/animations etc but i cant get it working due to error codes i dont know how to fix if anyone could help it would be great

its these 4 errors here

[zinc flax]

My particles doesnt show any collider

[last island]

I'm unsure, using the InputSystem, how to read if any mapped action is in use or not. I tried "IsPressed()" but it returned true all the time. So tried something else instead which always returns false.

private static bool GetAnyActionHeld()
{
    foreach (InputAction action in InputSystem.actions)
    {
        bool? state = (action.ReadValueAsObject() as bool?);
        if (state.HasValue && state.Value) return true;
    }
    return false;
}

Is there a better way? I can't imagine that Unity made this system without a way to check if any input is in use (Like for "Press Any Key").

[leaden ice]

https://docs.unity3d.com/Packages/com.unity.inputsystem@1.14/api/UnityEngine.InputSystem.InputActionMap.html#UnityEngine_InputSystem_InputActionMap_actionTriggered
or maybe
https://docs.unity3d.com/Packages/com.unity.inputsystem@1.14/api/UnityEngine.InputSystem.Keyboard.html#UnityEngine_InputSystem_Keyboard_anyKey
depending on what you're actually looking for?

or just bind an action to anyKey

[last island]

So I have a Credits scene where when you have held any action mapped button for x amount of time, then the credits will prematurely end.
So it needs to be that I can read any of the input actions I have in my maps and check if any of them are in use. If they are, I can assume a button is being held down.

I'm open to suggestions on doing this differently, if there is a better way to approach that problem

[leaden ice]

Well I think you could use <*>/* as the control path in your binding and it will capture literally everything

[last island]

Oh that's handy

So GetAction() but with that instead?

Or "FindAction" I guess.

[leaden ice]

Or perhaps "<*>/*[Button]" for any button control

[leaden ice]

No you can just set this up as a binding in the asset, no need for calloing GetAction or FindAction at all

[last island]

InputAction action = InputSystem.actions.FindAction(@"<*>/*[Button]");
So instead of this, how would I then prompt the InputSystem to figure out if a button indeed was pressed?

Or is being held, I guess

[leaden ice]

Make an action in your asset of type Button
Make a binding for it, and use <*>/*[Button] as the binding path

then treat in in your code like any other button action

so like InputSystem.actions["MyAction"].IsPressed()

or give it a Hold interaction

and listen for WasPerformedThisFrame()

[last island]

So instead of "InputHelper.GetButtonDown("Exit Credits")" I would do "InputHelper.GetButtonDown("<*>/*[Button]")

[leaden ice]

no

I don't know what InputHelper is

that's a custom thing you made, so it's hard for me to say how to use it

[last island]

Ah yeah, sorry that's a utility class. Forgot about that.

So this is what the code currently does to see if a specific action is being called

public static InputAction GetAction(string action)
{
    InputAction inputAction = InputSystem.actions.FindAction(action);
    if (inputAction == null)
        Debug.LogError($"The InputAction \"{action}\" doesn't exist. Check if the spelling is correct or if the action exists in Project Settings -> Input System Package.");

    return inputAction;
}

So for example "Settings Menu" might be an action that is then passed on to this method via the InputHelper class.
It then returns the InputAction object, if any, so that you can perform things on the action like reading from it.

In my scenario, I need to be able to read if any mapped button is being held currently, so that I can advance a timer while the buttong is being held.

[leaden ice]

It would be this way then InputHelper.GetButtonDown("Exit Credits")

But in the input asset, you would bind the Exit Credits action to <*>/*[Button]

[last island]

Aah, okay. I getcha.

Sorry for the confusion there. I think I got it now.

It is odd to me that Unity does not have an easier way of doing that, but there is likely an implementation detail as to the why.

[leaden ice]

I mean, I feel that's pretty easy

maybe a better shortcut for it in the UI is needed

[last island]

I feel like InputSystem.IsAnyButtonHeld() would be the easiest

Rather than having to assign an "Any key" like this

[steady bobcat]

The point of inputsystem is to move away from doing keyboard only stuff

[last island]

Sure, although I don't see what that has to do with what I am envisioning

Controllers also have buttons

[leaden ice]

but then how does that work for local multiplayer? How do you exclude certain buttons or devices?

It makes it super simple for your one, hyper-specific use case at the expense of flexibility and extensibility. Which is basically reverting back to the old input system

[steady bobcat]

There is a "any action triggered" event for PlayerInputs and the arg given can be used to read the state and duration: https://docs.unity3d.com/Packages/com.unity.inputsystem@1.14/api/UnityEngine.InputSystem.PlayerInput.html#UnityEngine_InputSystem_PlayerInput_onActionTriggered

[last island]

Making a convenience method is not really taking away from what everyone else is doing and I can assure that "any key" detection is far from uncommon for use cases like this.

[steady bobcat]

blah blah unity not wanting to presume or overstep with such a function blah blah

[last island]

I doubt it's that. They had in the old input system if I'm not mistaken.
I think it was simply overlooked in the new design when it was made.

Just odd after this amount of time 🤷‍♀️

[steady bobcat]

I presume it was keyboard + mouse only but this new system is trying to make make us avoid being keyboard centric. Anyway you have to do whatever works yea its nice to wish for a nice solution to already exist

[last island]

And I want to point out again that, what I asked for is not keyboard centric

It is input method agnostic. Every input has buttons of some kind.

[old elk]

Yeah, the new input system is...missing quite a few things that seem like common sense

I suppose that in the code for your event handling, you could just route the InputAction.CallbackContext into a custom input handler and have that increment a value if context.performed/decrement that value if context.canceled, then check if any button is held by querying that value. It's a bit like a counting semaphore lmao

is it legwork? yeah, you have to make sure you slap that method call into every event handler. could be worse though

[leaden ice]

Yeah that sounds... way more complicated than simply making a binding for all buttons.

[old elk]

Can you make a binding that just accepts "any button"?

[leaden ice]

Scroll up

you are about 15 minutes too late in the conversation

[old elk]

ah i see that

[leaden ice]

er, 30-40 minutes

[old elk]

my bad, I missed that lmao

[cold parrot]

no two people have the same idea what common sense is

[last island]

On an abstract level perhaps, but there are people who agree on what "common sense" is.
However to believe that common sense is...common is the illogical thing to do, as paradoxical as it sounds.

[old elk]

this is not the first time i've seen a relatively common use case be missing from the inputsystem

the other time was actually brought up in a thread some years back and one of the Unity devs said "yeah we're looking into this next" but it was never implemented lmao

[leaden ice]

Just because something is a relatively common use case doesn't mean it necessarily needs its own special API.
This is an input system.
Sort of like how Unity is a game engine, yet doesn't have a "First Person Shooter" module.
It's a general purpose system, and the API needs to be powerful and flexible, and yes, easy to work with, but if you over-opinionate your API you end up with a more complicated API with tons of caveats and multiple ways of doing the same thing.

[old elk]

right but

this isn't a "special API", this is just "is any button held"

[leaden ice]

that's a special API call

[old elk]

i think we have different ideas of what consitutes a "special API" then

[leaden ice]

¯_(ツ)_/¯ seems that way yes

[spare dome]

Would anyone happen to know how I can find how far a ray intersected a Gameobject?

[leaden ice]

The RaycastHit from your Raycast has a distance property

[cold parrot]

subtract the hit point from the ray distance

[spare dome]

sweet

[last island]

What you are saying, and what I requested (the anyButtonPressed) are not incompatible. They are in fact not related.

You could argue that any convenience call, of which the InputSystem has many, would be a "special API call" by your own definition, which to me would be an absurd notion.

[naive swallow]

Here's a point against a universal anyButtonPressed: Motion controls. If I have a game that reads input from, say, a Joy-Con controller, moving the controller is an input. Do I want to include waggle in "Any button" or not? It's not really a button, but it is an input in my input actions map

[leaden ice]

Somewhere between "all the possible convenience methods" and "no convenience methods" is the right number of convenience methods.

[naive swallow]

If I'm making a "Press any button to continue" menu, do I want it to continue if the user moves their hand at all?

Probably not.

[last island]

It is an input, but it is not a button, unless you present it that way. I see no counterpoint here.

[old elk]

Button presses are discrete values. Movement, such as kinetic input or positioning devices, is continuous.