🏃┃animation

[harsh ivy]

I'm actually having an issue with the animation updating

Nevermind. fixed it

[drowsy cape]

Do u need to have every attack and idel and everthing animatible in the same spritesheet

I want to use both of these

[agile solstice]

No

[drowsy cape]

hot to fix

[late birch]

allright ive tried this but still no luck

the cells are 21 x 34 but unity somhow gets confused

[hybrid tinsel]

What do you mean by 'confused?' what are you entering in the slicing window?

[late birch]

i got slice by cell size

and put in the exact size

[late birch]

and get this mess

ok nvm fixed it

just spent a while tweaking it until it fit

[mellow zealot]

Is there a way to create animation events with custom parameters? like, rather than giving it one of each object type, I can give it multiple floats instead?

[rigid salmon]

I am using custom made animations in my project want to add animation events to the clip but the event option is locked.

[drowsy cape]

Is their a way to avoid remaking every animation when adding a animation to the sprite sheet

Is their a way to avoid remaking every animation when adding a animation to the sprite sheet

Is their a way to avoid remaking every animation when adding a animation to the sprite sheet

[celest crag]

@drowsy cape Did you mean to post multiple messages?

[drowsy cape]

YES

[celest crag]

@drowsy cape Do not spam the channel.

[twin musk]

Hey lads, is there no way to make multiple animations fire on one layer?

[agile solstice]

Blend trees are one way
But layers are usually the most practical

[twin musk]

Blend trees? hmmm

I don't know if that would work in my scenario.
I'm trying to get one animation to fire, stay fired, then have another animation fire on top up to 4 @agile solstice

[agile solstice]

Why not blend trees and why not layers?

[twin musk]

I haven't experimented w/ blend trees to see if that is viable for my scenario.
I already have like over 20 layers- it's complicating things

[agile solstice]

now I'm curious how many animations do you need playing at once?

[twin musk]

4

[agile solstice]

on 20 layers? 🤣

[twin musk]

I have a lot of other things in play

This for a different system on the same FX

Seeing VRChat only allows one FX for an avatar

[agile solstice]

That sounds about right

[twin musk]

If you want I can DM you to not to clutter this channel

[agile solstice]

You can make a thread but I don't know what else to say on the topic

[twin musk]

Is there a way to keep those four animations all active within a blend tree?

[agile solstice]

Not additively, I don't think, but you can have 4 active animations have blend them with various weights

[twin musk]

[nova finch]

How could I transition out of a sub state machine through one transition?

I was trying to use Any state then transition out into my base layer but it doesn't work

[twin musk]

you have to link the substate's transition to a transition outside of it

lemme word that better

[nova finch]

Yeah I have it transitioning to my Walking/Running Blend tree under specific parameters but it still doesn't work

is that what you meant?

[agile solstice]

I assumed you wanted 4, but just one blend tree can have more than that

[twin musk]

it wont keep all active though

thats what i need

[mellow zealot]

If you copy/paste the animation keys into a new animation, you're able to edit it in the new clip. You can add events there

[granite kite]

hi i have made animations for my player and dont know how to play them in unity any helpful videos?

[agile solstice]

@rigid salmon @mellow zealot The animation asset can be duplicated with ctrl+D to quickly create an editable duplicate of it, as well

[mellow zealot]

Ah, thank you. I could do with that tip

[twin musk]

hey i can't find many video about the subject if i make a top down gale in 2d with a 8 directional system do i have to make 8 animation for every weapons everytime?

[glacial quiver]

is posible to alter the alpha when animating a 2d sprite, so It just fades gradually?

[agile solstice]

I believe you can animate the color/transparency just the same as any other property

[glacial quiver]

I am trying to see what kinds of properties can you move when using the animator to achieve visual effects, and I'm wondering if there's probably a better way

[hybrid tinsel]

Either that or just rotate your character.

[twin musk]

ya but even with that for the weapons i have to Remake everything adding each weapons?

[hybrid tinsel]

Assuming that you are using the default sprite shader, you can just animate the alpha of the sprite color in the sprite renderer.

[hybrid tinsel]

I'm not sure what you mean; you can, like, just rotate the entire character with the weapons.

[twin musk]

but if i wanna make multiple weapons like dungeons loot and stuff in 3d i just have to put the weapon as child for example but there i should Remake 5 time the weapon + the animations?

or is there an alternative on unity?

[agile solstice]

I'm not fully sure what you're asking
But if you want the weapon sprite to adapt to directional perspective change, then yes you do need multiple frames for it

Some games like Enter the Gungeon don't bother with that level of detail and it looks kinda okay still

[twin musk]

F*** ;~;

[glacial quiver]

you could move the weapon and or arms with code , but why bother?

[twin musk]

gonna go like that and dead cells i think yes x3

probably gonna add 1 animation per type of weapon and add vfx depending on the element like fire and stuff it should be enough i guess x3

thx for the help tough

[agile solstice]

Dead Cells I believe renders 3D meshes which are then pixelated to look like sprites
That'd would be another way to do it, but it has its own tricks to it

[twin musk]

seem so i need to look into it too 🤔

[agile solstice]

I'd say it shouldn't be your first or second option due to the complexity of it, but it's definitely an interesting technique

[twin musk]

yup i saw the eastward dev talk about it but i never really looked into it so

[rigid salmon]

How can I check in script if the particular animation in blend tree is running?

if (this.animator.GetCurrentAnimatorStateInfo().IsName())
Can work for Base Layer but how to approach the specific animation in blend tree

[timber rapids]

Hi! I'm trying to insert the animator on this script but I have no clue https://paste.myst.rs/8f5c7ikj Any advices or turorials?

[hybrid tinsel]

Technically, if that state is active then all animations un the blend tree are running. You have to get the blendtree weight and see which is highest.

[gaunt vortex]

https://youtu.be/gsmRfd8iYyY
need some help i'm following this game and trying to do something familiar, while looking for a reference for birds png i got an exact types of birds in the game but they are all combined so like how do i use them for animation.

[outer minnow]

Is my animation look good?

[hybrid tinsel]

Needs some hip/body motion but it is servicable

[outer minnow]

Unfortunately, I didn't use human bones

Just along body

Anyways thanks for the feedback!

[hybrid tinsel]

I mean, I almost never use humanoid since I mostly animate in 2d

It actually makes it easier to animate the hips since the humanoid rig is terrible for that 😄

[outer minnow]

Yeah

[hybrid tinsel]

Personally I like having the spine not parented to the hips, especially for cartoony characters

[outer minnow]

I rushed my dream game

[outer minnow]

That's cool

[hybrid tinsel]

https://imgur.com/8zSjTX7

[outer minnow]

Damn

[hybrid tinsel]

You can see around 15 sec how the hips work

[outer minnow]

Welp I forgot to put hips

[hybrid tinsel]

Though that is a bit more extreme than usual, it is going for a very stretchy, cartoony look

[outer minnow]

Oh ok

Thanks for the tip

[broken beacon]

Does anyone know why my camera can’t move in the Y rotation when I have the animation enabled and why the camera only moves in the X rotation.

[open wadi]

I'm thinking of hiring an animator to just fix up some animations. To specify, I'm not trying to hire here, I'm just asking for advice on pricing. I've got some animations from mixamo that I really like and would fit well with my game, but I need to add a gun to them, which I already have a model of. Just making the gun fit in the 4 animations I have is all I need. How much would be a fair price for this? I don't want to underpay, but I also don't want to get ripped off

[twin musk]

i am making a jump animation and i need a way to stop the jumping animation when i land, any tips?

[buoyant trellis]

Why is my 2d animation laggy? How can i fix this?

[granite kite]

my animations are on my player but i need to drag them somehow any help

[buoyant trellis]

Anyone?

Also how do i fix: 'Player' AnimationEvent has no function name specified!

Its annoying

[harsh ivy]

How do I avoid this Animator hell? I was watching a video by Lost Relic Games that suggests I use a code function to change the animation state instead of doing this thing but how will it have transitions?

[hybrid tinsel]

I fucking hate that term 'animator hell' that that jackass popularized.

Stupid strawman video.

That animator you have there isn't 'hell' at all.

[hybrid tinsel]

You either remove your empty AnimationEvent or give it a function

[hybrid tinsel]

Depends on what is causing the lag. Did you install mathematics and burst packages?

[harsh ivy]

well, I find it hell

because I keep coming across animation artifacts

and I have about 4 or 5 booleans set for each transition

which is less than ideal

by alot

[hybrid tinsel]

Lost Relic's method is the animation version of this

[harsh ivy]

yeah that's why I didn't watch the whole video

I am pretty sure somebody here has a better method

[hybrid tinsel]

That seems excessive.

[harsh ivy]

ok question, what does Fixed Duration mean?

[hybrid tinsel]

Making transitions via code is absolutely valid but you should do it when needed, not just as a 'fuck you' to the very concept of using an animation state machine.

[hybrid tinsel]

It means that the transition will be based on time rather than percentage of the animation length.

[harsh ivy]

and another unrelated question, how do I run the first few keyframes of an animation and then loop the rest?

[hybrid tinsel]

Best way is to make two animations; one for the looping part and one for the intro.

[harsh ivy]

but that adds even more animations

so even more spider web connections

also what's interruption source

[hybrid tinsel]

I feel like you can probably simplify your logic; my game only has seven variables for the player animator and several of them aren't for movement

[harsh ivy]

this is what mine looks like and it's only for movement

[hybrid tinsel]

Huh. That seems to have a lot of redundancy

[harsh ivy]

I could get rid of "IsWalking"

but I need the rest

and there will be more later, like crouching, firing, mantling, reloading

etc

[hybrid tinsel]

You have a walk speed, so why do you need 'frontwalking' and 'backwalking'?

Why do you need 'isidle'?

[harsh ivy]

oh yeah why do I need IsIdle

[hybrid tinsel]

You have grounded AND jumping, so why do you need a falling bool? And why is jumping a bool rather than a trigger?

[harsh ivy]

when I tried it without, it did not let me mirror the keyframes and play the walk animation backwards

said something about recorder mode

[harsh ivy]

What is the difference between trigger and bool?

[hybrid tinsel]

you can have the 'backwards' STATE without the 'backwalking' bool.

[harsh ivy]

so I need to set the requirements for the falling animation to be not jumping and not grounded?

[hybrid tinsel]

Just use the negative speed to transition into backwards walking

[harsh ivy]

oh that makes sense

good tips, let me implement them and come back

[hybrid tinsel]

A trigger is 'used up' once it causes a transition. A bool isn't.

[harsh ivy]

so if I trigger it once it works and if I do it again it reverts?

also to make IsJumping true, I made it look at the rb2D.velocity.y

same for falling

[hybrid tinsel]

I trigger 'jump' when the player hits the jump button while grounded.

[harsh ivy]

and does it keep looping until I start falling?

actually, how would I detect if I'm falling?

[hybrid tinsel]

No. Jump transitions directly to falling

Always

[harsh ivy]

but what if I double jump

[hybrid tinsel]

And then falling transitions either to landing or crouched landing.

Well, I don't have a double jump.

[harsh ivy]

I do, or will have

I will have to put back in the falling boolean

[hybrid tinsel]

Not really.

To double jump you need to already be in the falling state

[harsh ivy]

no you can jump while you're already jumping

[hybrid tinsel]

I'm not sure you are defining the difference between jumping and falling very well.

[harsh ivy]

Falling is when the player is not moving upwards

jumping is when the player is moving upwards

that's why I had it as a boolean

[hybrid tinsel]

Even if you hit the button to doublejump while moving upwards, you probably don't want it to trigger until they stop rising do you?

[harsh ivy]

no I do

so you get a quick high jump

or a controlled jump

I set double jump to reset the current y velocity and apply a force

currently it's broken but it's unrelated to the animation

[hybrid tinsel]

We're only discussing the animation, really. How your jumping works doesn't really matter. All that matters is 'what conditions trigger x, y, or z animation'

Double jumping complicated things, but not THAT much

[harsh ivy]

I can keep jumping as a boolean rather than a trigger

would simplify it

[hybrid tinsel]

That does the opposite of simplifying it, ESPECIALLY for double jumping.

[harsh ivy]

or use the velocity as a float to trigger either jumping of falling

[hybrid tinsel]

and I don't think you should use velocity for either

[harsh ivy]

why? I don't have a separate double jump animation

[hybrid tinsel]

That is a very bad idea.

Using the y velocity to trigger jump/fall animations breaks slopes or elevators.

[harsh ivy]

nope, because I will make it also dependant on if the player is grounded

so it doesn't break it

[hybrid tinsel]

That is why. With a trigger you can just use the same trigger for jump and doublejump.

[harsh ivy]

also quick question, how do I make something work if a float is at 0? it only says greater or equal

[hybrid tinsel]

Use an int

[harsh ivy]

ok no I need the IsIdle parameter

I set the running forward and backward animation to both be dependant on walk speed and being grounded

and I set the idle animation to be dependent on if it's grounded

so I need an idle parameter too

[hybrid tinsel]

Just use a low float value

Like for me I use

[harsh ivy]

no cause if horizontal is negative

it will play the animation

[hybrid tinsel]

Then add a 'greater than' too

[harsh ivy]

isIdle sounds like a better option

but I will try

[hybrid tinsel]

That kind of thinking is why you had a million bools in the first place 😛

[harsh ivy]

yeah I will try to cut down and rething after I make it work again and not broken 😅

[hybrid tinsel]

So just why can't you play your walk animation backwards?

[harsh ivy]

it didn't work

said something about RecorderMode

[hybrid tinsel]

Can you be more specific?

Both about the error and how you attempted to do it?

[harsh ivy]

said that the AnimatorRecorderMode should be != AnimatorRecord.offline

or something

[harsh ivy]

I believe I set the multiplier to the walk speed float

and the walk speed was determined by my horizontal input

[harsh ivy]

when it was negative, it didn't work and gave me that error

unity crashed wut

[hybrid tinsel]

That sounds like a problem with the unity recorder package

[harsh ivy]

there's a package for that?

NO I LOS TMY PROGRESS

I'm back here 😢

and that is why you save often

[hybrid tinsel]

Are you SURE about that? Because that error is usually caused by setting the Animator.Speed

[harsh ivy]

might be that

but I removed that

oh yeah it must be that

definitely

now my animations don't play at all

only the idle one plays

[hybrid tinsel]

Maybe it is time to tear it all up and start fresh with what you know. Might be easier than trying to retrofit each piece

[harsh ivy]

no I'm pretty sure something as actually bugged

let me show you

these are the conditions of going from idle to walking

[hybrid tinsel]

I understand what you meant. That is why it is easier to sart fresh; much easier to debug.

[harsh ivy]

and this is how the run animation is set up

[harsh ivy]

kinda is fresh right now

[hybrid tinsel]

Why do you need a grounded condition?

[harsh ivy]

a player can't run in the air

anyway

walk speed is updating correctly

it's either 0, -1 or 1 depending on movement

but the animation never plays

[hybrid tinsel]

If the player is in the air, they won't be in idle state

[harsh ivy]

the player is grounded

always

something is bugged I'm pretty sure

[hybrid tinsel]

Might be a script problem, too, if the conditions aren't updating

[harsh ivy]

the conditions are updating

they show in the animator

with correct values

but the animations don't play

hell, I only kept idle and run animations in the animator and it still does not run

[hybrid tinsel]

Is the state changing?

[harsh ivy]

nope

[hybrid tinsel]

Are the transitions lighting up?

Did you set the animator speed to zero?

[harsh ivy]

wait

[hybrid tinsel]

Do you have a state soloed

[harsh ivy]

the zero part

hold up

let me check

[hybrid tinsel]

https://docs.unity3d.com/Manual/AnimationSoloMute.html

[harsh ivy]

nope something is still wrong

ahhhh

It's 2am

[hybrid tinsel]

Ok. Breathe.

[harsh ivy]

I am

But I am frustrated

the conditions are being met

but the transition is not happening

why would that be?

[hybrid tinsel]

You have the right instance of the animator? you don't have anything soloed or muted?

[harsh ivy]

I have the transition to and from walk and idle soloed

that's it

[hybrid tinsel]

Unsolo everything

[harsh ivy]

ok

[hybrid tinsel]

That'll just confuse things

[harsh ivy]

nope

doesn't work still

[hybrid tinsel]

What happens when you manually transition

[harsh ivy]

how do you do that?

OH I DID IT

I removed the dependancy on walk speed to do the transition

eventhough it wasn't broken

I need to rest

I can not thank you enough, Pinballkitty

[hybrid tinsel]

Hope it helps!

[gaunt vortex]

is there anyway to create a common animation regardless of position of object in game space?

i want to animate birds but if i use the same animation on another bird it takes the previous birds location and moves the object there

[hybrid tinsel]

Don't animate the root.

Leave the root with no keyframes; all animation is spatially relative to the root.

[gaunt vortex]

it does not have a root motion, those sprites i'm trying to animate

[hybrid tinsel]

And you aren't animating the position of the gameobject?

[gaunt vortex]

not right now but i want to move them too in different directions

[hybrid tinsel]

Because I can clearly see a row of keyframes aside from the sprites.

[gaunt vortex]

currently i'm doing seperate animation according to object podition

[hybrid tinsel]

The 'root' of an animation is the object with the animator on it.

If that gameobject has animation on it, then the object will snap to that world position.

[gaunt vortex]

no the object does not have an animation

it was just a sprite which i'm animating

[hybrid tinsel]

Show your whole animation window?

[gaunt vortex]

okay

Here like this sprit bird i have animated the sprites and position, so when i hit play it will translate forward , but when i use the same animation clip for another bird which is animation at a point that object also translates to this birds position

[hybrid tinsel]

Please reread what I said

[hybrid tinsel]

So you either need to have a parent object 'hold' the animator, or have a parent object to use to place it. Either way, you want no keyframes on your root object(the one with the animator component)

[gaunt vortex]

i'm sorry it's going above my head

[hybrid tinsel]

Use the empty object as the 'origin'

[gaunt vortex]

oh okay

lets say the empty object(pos -10) moves in x direction starting from pos 10>20>30>40>50. Okay
so now if i use this same animation clip on different object(pos - -50) so when the animation will play it will immediately animate as -50>10>20 and so on right?

like your character should animate in prefab view ?

[gaunt vortex]

for that if the prefab has animator controller then there is a small window right_down in the panel itself so just drop your character there to se the animation attached, yeah but it wont work if the animator has parameters because you can not pass it in the prefab.

also the animation needs to be selected to view the animation

[hybrid tinsel]

As long as the root object has no transform keyframes, then yes.

[visual saddle]

Anyone know why my model's blendshape list isn't showing in unity? I've had this issue before and all I had to do is untick "relative" in blender but that's not working

[frosty delta]

is this wrong? the only thing that plays is the run animation

[hybrid tinsel]

What the actual fuck is that? I'd ask to see it in a resolution that would make it readable but that would probably hurt even more.

[frosty delta]

what

just click it

that image is fine there no resolution issue??

[hybrid tinsel]

Seriously though, that is one really fucked up animator.

[frosty delta]

well i got that much figured out

[hybrid tinsel]

Not even sure where to begin, since it seems like the answer to 'what is wrong' might actually be 'everything in it'

I really can't tell what is supposed to be happening there.

[frosty delta]

well first i linked everything to any state

then i linked everything to entry

[hybrid tinsel]

Yes, I can see that. Which means that either you don't understand how state machines work or you are trolling me very successfully.

[frosty delta]

bro i spent the last 20hours downloading this

im the biggest beginner possible

[hybrid tinsel]

Have you looked at any of the documentation or tutorials that explain how to set up an animator?

[frosty delta]

yes but they dont got nearly as many animations as this does

so it gets set up different

[hybrid tinsel]

Start small, build up.

[frosty delta]

like, why does this one work but when i put a two way transition between idle and run it just goes back and forth

and i cant set mine up like that cause i dont have a land or spawn animation

[hybrid tinsel]

AnyState is meant to be used VERY SPARINGLY.

And unity will always take a transition that fits the criteria, in order of precedence. So if you just have a connection each way it will take them back and forth.

[frosty delta]

wait why? shouldnt it mean you can go from any animation to the on linked

i thought thats what anystate meant??? you link it an you can go from any animation to whatever is linked

[hybrid tinsel]

Yes. Overwriting the normal flow of states.

[frosty delta]

so then why doesnt the first one work

couldnt it just overwrite the run and go into like jump

[hybrid tinsel]

There is no logic to it at all that I can tell. It'll be based on the transition conditions.

[frosty delta]

the wha- theres conditions...? oh no...

[hybrid tinsel]

Yeah. You're gonna wanna peek at the manual.

[granite kite]

Hi i have made animations in blender and now want to attach them to my animator however i dont know how to access them

[hybrid tinsel]

Drag the animations from the project inspector to the animator window

[noble pond]

Posting this here instead of the general thread: I've spent a long time getting an animation controller script working for my top down 2D game. Was this really silly? Should I just use blend trees like a normal person? My movement script basically pings a cardinal direction script which sets the direction parameter of the character, the animation script then gets the direction and plays the right animation.

[granite kite]

how

[hybrid tinsel]

Assuming you have it imported correctly, the animations will show up as children of the animated object file you imported. They can be dragged into the animator window.

[hybrid tinsel]

Without seeing your exact use-case I won't call it really silly. It was PROBABLY really silly, though.

[open wadi]

i'll repost because i don't think anyone saw it

I'm thinking of hiring an animator to just fix up some animations. To specify, I'm not trying to hire here, I'm just asking for advice on pricing. I've got some animations from mixamo that I really like and would fit well with my game, but I need to add a gun to them, which I already have a model of. Just making the gun fit in the 4 animations I have is all I need. How much would be a fair price for this? I don't want to underpay, but I also don't want to get ripped off

[hybrid tinsel]

That's a good question; I'm not really sure, honestly, since when I do work for hire it tends to be fairly small things and pricing is always tricky.

[granite kite]

Yeah the only thing I have is the cube and armature there is animations on the player but it isn’t a child I’m not at my computer rn

[hybrid tinsel]

It seems like you have something setup incorrectly somewhere along the process. Hard to really guess where.

[turbid quail]

Can someone tell me this is a unity problem with depthTest?

I don't remember but I think I saw this normal in previous versions...

using Unity 2022.1.10f1

[white coral]

Hey! I'm wondering how you would make it so that a hand could be moved to the grip of a gun using ik instead of extremely precisely animating the aim animation to be directly forwards like I have been doing so far. This is how it currently looks but this took me an hour to get right and I'm gonna have multiple rigs with multiple weapons so I'd really not like to do that again. I was thinking I could just aim the weapon with code like I normally would then use ik to get the arm to properly place the hand on the gun, but I don't know how to do that.

One thing that makes this even more annoying is the animation is slightly off while pausing or before running the game so I have no adjust it, export from blender, run the game, see what I need to adjust further, and then repeat.

[hybrid tinsel]

Yes, that is a very good use for inverse kinematics

[white coral]

I've used IK in other engines and procgen projects but never in 3d on a rigged, animated character :P

[hybrid tinsel]

If you are using a mecanim humanoid then there is IK built into the animator. You can also use other IK tools like Animation Rigging package, of course.

[noble pond]

Well I remember reading a unity forum thread about the animator being relatively resource intense, with some people having FPS issues in their 2D game with a lot of entities. I'll try to find it. The gist was that these tools were made for 3D and it's dumb to use them for 2D frame based animation.

[noble pond]

I think this is the thread I'm thinking of: https://forum.unity.com/threads/we-removed-all-our-animators-and-gained-30-fps-alternatives-to-mechanim.540162/

At the crowded end there'll probably be like 50+ entities on the screen at once, it's kinda like an RTS

[hybrid tinsel]

@noble pond first of all, that is a four year own thread from before they added burst support to speed up the animator. It was also from someone who was making literally hundreds of 'no logic' animations- that is, simple loops with no states or anything.

[hybrid tinsel]

You are, instead of skipping functionality you don't need, remaking the animator yourself from scratch.

[noble pond]

That reply is from 2021

Oh well, learned some shit along the way