archived-code-general

[leaden ice]

but it seems like it's probably a struct

[pliant gorge]

yes, that worked nicely, thanks!

[hard viper]

is there a simple way to set up moving between selected buttons via dpad/arrowkeys without using a script?

i’ve been coding everything by hand, but now that I get into more hard-coded menus, I’m wondering if there is a better way

[heady iris]

well, by default, you get automatic navigation

which tries to figure out where to go based on screen position

did you run into problems with that? I know I did.

[hard viper]

i have not tried

my arrow keys normally move a cursor on the screen

maybe i need to decouple it to gain that feature?

[leaden solstice]

StandaloneInputModule should handle it

New Input system also has ui input module

[sudden meadow]

is it fine to use the new keyword to create a new instance of a class that inherits from ScriptableObject, using a normal class constructor, or do SO's have some issues with new like MonoBehaviors do?

[jaunty needle]

Is this valid?
public event System.Func<IEnumerator> ShotBall;

This is the script that listens for the event but when I invoke it it seems to not be activated:

using System.Collections;
using System.Collections.Generic;
using UnityEngine;

public class DistanceDisplayer : MonoBehaviour
{
    [SerializeField] private float collisionDelay = 0.1f;

    ProjectileLauncher projectileLauncher;

    private void Awake()
    {
        projectileLauncher = FindObjectOfType<ProjectileLauncher>();
    }

    private void OnEnable()
    {
        projectileLauncher.ShotBall += DelayCollision;
    }

    private void OnDisable()
    {
        projectileLauncher.ShotBall -= DelayCollision;
    }

    private void OnTriggerEnter2D(Collider2D collision)
    {
        Transform passedBall = collision.gameObject.transform;
        print(passedBall.position.x);

    }

    IEnumerator DelayCollision()
    {
        print("Off");
        GetComponent<BoxCollider2D>().enabled = false;
        yield return new WaitForSeconds(collisionDelay);
        print("On");
        GetComponent<BoxCollider2D>().enabled = true;

    }

}

[rigid island]

dont think so

[sudden meadow]

as in it's not fine or it doesn't have the same issues as monobehavior? 😄

[rigid island]

its still an Object from unity, so it works similiar to MB iirc

[jaunty needle]

This works with a normal void function but I'm wondering if I can make it work with events

[rigid island]

if you want to create one at runtime use thishttps://docs.unity3d.com/ScriptReference/ScriptableObject.CreateInstance.html

also they do run Awake()

so thats kinda like your constructor for it ig (ofc is not a real constructor)

[sudden meadow]

hmm ok. this is fine, just wasn't sure. thanks.

[fervent furnace]

i havent use event (i use system.action) and i think this is weird if your event have return value

int i=ManyFuncReturnInt.Invoke();

how can you determine i value?
update: both invoke and () returns void

[hard viper]

afaik, garbage collector won’t destroy it automatically

the whole point of an SO is to not be destroyed

if you are creating an SO at runtime, your usecase is probably wrong

if you need persistent data saved between playsessions, you should save to a proper file like a JSON. Or use playerprefs.

if you need to just store data that can be created and deleted during runtime, a POCO might be better.

[sudden meadow]

yea I was simply creating a "bleed" status effect that was inheriting from "StatusEffect", and simply doing new Bleed() and send in the variables on creation was an easy way to generate new bleeds with variable values. However I also wanted other status effects that would work better as SO's so I was trying to see if it worked so just do new on an SO.

It does complain but it also works, so I guess it would be fine if I manage it myself, but I can also just instantiate the bleeds as SO's and then change the values on the clone so it's all fine I think.

[hard viper]

do not use an SO for this

use a POCO

[sudden meadow]

Hmm never heard of this before

[hard viper]

or a monobehaviour that manages a POCO

POCO = plain old C class.

[sudden meadow]

hmm

[hard viper]

ie don’t inherit from Monobehaviour, nor scriptable object

[thin aurora]

Not really, the point is that you have a single reference containing your data. The only reason why it does not collect it automatically is that as long as you use it, it is not destroyed or collected by the GC.

An SO is great because it reduces memory usage since all your reusable data is in a single reference rather than multiple primitive/complex fields

[quick elbow]

Anyone have any suggestions on how to store timestamped data for quick access? Essentially my gamestate is driven by IRL timestamped events. This is sort of a DSA question. I don't think a hashmap/dictionary would work well because the timestamp would have to match exactly when trying to key in on the time.

[hard viper]

if you use an SO, then you have to manually destroy it later to clear it

because you are creating it, and you are now responsible for destroying it

[quick elbow]

Users need to be able to navigate back and forth between the timestamped data, and ideally they should be able to change the time scale as well to essentially move through the data at say 0.5x or 2x

[knotty sun]

Linked List and Binary Search

[thin aurora]

It is not normal to use an SO and to use new() or anything like that. You are supposed to make an SO in your editor, and then reference that inside your components. Making multiple instances of the same SO beats the purpose of a SO.

[sudden meadow]

hmm maybe. it's just that i have some use cases where i'd like to have a custom status effect that I can then do a comparison to, where just popping in a scriptable object to compare to would be nice.

i'll consider POCOs so thanks for the suggestion

[hard viper]

and if you fuck up the creation/destruction process, your project will have a bunch of SO files lying around

[fervent furnace]

skip list/sorted set

[hard viper]

you should basically never make a new SO during runtime, and only in editor

[quick elbow]

I'm not familiar with a skip list, I'll check it out. Thanks!

[sudden meadow]

i make clones of them sometimes but that's it. i guess i need to handle destroying those too.

[thin aurora]

But why make clones? They store data

[quick elbow]

That's definitely possible. Lookup would be O(logn) though as opposed to O(1), but there may not be a way around that since I don't think I can use a hashmap as mentioned

[thin aurora]

If the data changes, make a new SO in the editor

[knotty sun]

but you cannot get o(1) unless you know the exact Timestamp

[quick elbow]

Yes, that's a good point

[hard viper]

so, I have an EntityDataOriginal class. This tells exactly all the vulnerabilities and deets of an enemy. It is basically an immutable SO. During runtime, I make a POCO duplicate of it, which is mutable. This way I can make multiple entities which can have their vulnerabilities change during runtime, separate from each other, without altering the original.

and the GC automatically clears the mutable copies whenever enemies are destroyed

this is an example for robin

[fervent furnace]

this maybe better but i havent implement a interval tree before
https://www.geeksforgeeks.org/interval-tree/

[sudden meadow]

@hard viper thanks

[orchid bane]

How do I know if a point is to the right or to the left of my character if the character might be on a tilted plane, tho not too much so?

[hard viper]

are you in 2D or 3D

and what do you mean by “right”

transform.right points to the right, after adjusting for rotation, but not for scale

so… what is “right”?

[orchid bane]

Let me draw

[orchid bane]

3D

The plane is tilted as you can see

[eager yacht]

Well you could use the dot product here, against the player's right direction and the direction to the enemy. If dot is greater than 0, it's on the right, if less than 0, it's on the left.

[hard viper]

does “right” depend on camera?

like, can your camera turn around

[orchid bane]

Depends on the character's rotation

[hard viper]

so you mean the character’s right

[orchid bane]

Yep

[hard viper]

can the character’s scale be negative?

[orchid bane]

No, never heard of anything like that

[hard viper]

negative scale mirrors you

[orchid bane]

Also it's important to consider that the player is always standing perpendicular to the plane it's standing on

[hard viper]

in this case. transform.right is a vector that goes to the object’s right

given any applied rotation

[orchid bane]

I need to know not the character's rotation but whether a coordinate point is to the right or to the left of the character

[hard viper]

if your character is straight on the plane, then transform.right is along the plane. If the character is always straight up (world up), then transform.right just points to the right given rotation

[hard viper]

this is important to establish because if you are mirroring your character, transform.right is pointing to the non-mirrored right

[orchid bane]

Okay

[hard viper]

so now you have a vector pointing from character to his right, yeah?

[orchid bane]

Yeah

[hard viper]

so (pointOfInterest - transform.position) is a vector that goes from your character to the point of interest

which could be an enemy’s position or whatver

then we have transform.right dot product with (pointOfInterest - transform.position).

if this dot product is positive, then the vectors share enough component to be in the same direction

if it is negative, they are opposite

if zero, then it’s straight perpendicular

do you understand so far?

[orchid bane]

Everything besides the dot product

[hard viper]

do you not know what a dot product does, or how to do it, or what?

[orchid bane]

School was so long ago I've forgotten it

[hard viper]

you should learn again. vector math is important for this sort of thing

vector v dot u = v.x * u.x + v.y * u.y + v.z * u.z ….

[orchid bane]

I also saw cross product being used for these things. Which is better?

[hard viper]

cross product and dot product are two totally different things

dot product takes in 2 vectors (can have any number of dimensions), and outputs a number

cross product takes in 2 vectors (usually must be 3D), and outputs another vector (also in 3D) which is perpendicular to both

totally completely different

dot product is bigger if two vectors are in the same direction

when working in spatial coordinates, dot product of zero means perpendicular. more positive means they are more oriented together. more negative means more oriented opposite

vector2.up dot vector2.up = 1.

vector2.left dot vector2.up = 0

vector2.down dot vector2.up = -1

make sense?

[orchid bane]

Does, does, tho I think I need to give it more thought to understand how it works with vectors which don't have a 0 parameter

[hard viper]

you need a lecture then

there should be plenty on youtube

[orchid bane]

Okay, thanks. Evidently I need to know at least this much

[hard viper]

yeah. it’s basically mandatory to work with vectors

i will say dot product shows up a lot more than cross product.

cross product gets you a vector that is perpendicular to 2 other vectors. dot product generally tells you how aligned 2 vectors are.

but i work in 2D, so I never need cross product

[orchid bane]

I wonder if you didn't consider some cases which won't work in 3D with dot product

[hard viper]

dot product is dot product

you can have 69-dimensional vectors, and its interpretation does not change

[orchid bane]

If we want to know how aligned are your vectors in 1 dimension still

[hard viper]

same thing

[orchid bane]

Not complaining, just stating

[hard viper]

linear algebra is rarely taught with a specific number of dimensions in mind

only bad teachers will force learning in specifically 2-3 dimensions

[orchid bane]

Okay, thanks, gonna code it fast and go learn right after that

[hard viper]

gl

[mystic ferry]

sounds like one of the gameobjects is destroyed when you switch scenes. It needs to be marked with DontDestroyOnLoad(this)

#💻┃code-beginner if your manager needs references to an object that's destroyed when you switch scenes, you need to find a way to make sure either that that object isn't destroyed or that you generate a new one

[orchid bane]

I have separate animations for when my character is going slightly to the left or slightly to the right, it's controlled by a boolean animator parameter called TurnRight. The character is moved by root motion. So when it moves to the left or to the right, it almost always gets a bit off and needs to slightly turn to the other side. It results in a twitching animation. What do I do with considering that I would like my character to go as straight as possible?

[hard viper]

it depends on how you are moving

you need to expess your turn in a variable that does not change instantly like that

[orchid bane]

Will make a blend tree I guess

Atm I'm trying to make a sub-state machine in my animation controller, but I can't find a way to exit from any state in the sub-state machine. I can make transitions neither to Up (Base Layer) nor to Exit. What do I do?

[urban lintel]

    public IEnumerator SpeedUp(float speedMultiplier, float duration)
    {
        float timeRemaining = duration;
        while (timeRemaining > 0f)
        {
            movementSpeed = Mathf.Lerp(baseMovementSpeed * speedMultiplier, baseMovementSpeed, 1 - (timeRemaining / duration));
            timeRemaining -= Time.deltaTime;
            yield return null;
        }
        movementSpeed = baseMovementSpeed;
    }

I have this decaying speedup function in my player script that basically enables on certain conditions (e.g. colliding with a speed boost causes the speed boost to call this function), however this has unintended behaviour once i pick up multiple speedups. How do i go about ending the previous coroutine? Can i store a reference of it on the player script?

changed my public method to be this instead:

public void SpeedUp(float speedMultiplier, float duration, string name)
    {
        if (coroutine != null)
        {
            StopCoroutine(coroutine);
        }
        coroutine = StartCoroutine(SpeedUpCoroutine(speedMultiplier, duration, name));
    }

I guess in the future i could hold a list of coroutines instead and iterate or key/value them if i have buffs that are multiplicative

[wanton wasp]

I would store a reference to the Coroutine.

private Coroutine _boostCoroutine;

void SpeedUp(...)
{
    if(_boostCoroutine != null) return;
    _boostCoroutine = StartCoroutine(SpeedUpCoroutine);
}

[urban lintel]

yep, ended up doing that! The coroutine there is the reference, i just made it stop and reapply a new one since in my case i wanted it to refresh

[dusk apex]

You could just not restart the routine but instead reset the time remaining (implies it's a class member) ?

[urban lintel]

True, that could also work if i stored the timeremaining outside the scope of the function

[wanton wasp]

The coroutine will stop as soon as the code has been executed.
So, he will have to have a while loop in a coroutine.
I don't think that it's an optimal solution.

[dusk apex]

He's already got a while loop and it's preferred over restarting coroutines, iirc

[wanton wasp]

I don't know if it even matter performance wise.
Coroutine is designed to do some stuff and exit.
Even it's name implies that it's a co-routine.

[urban lintel]

if there's a better way to handle that than a while loop i wouldn't mind changing that too. I just needed a decaying effect and am not too familiar with the tools unity/c# offers out of the box

[wanton wasp]

Maybe garbage allocation can be an issue though...

[dusk apex]

Generally you'd let the routine run as long as possible - often times with infinite loops (not preferable in your case though). The condition to continue is something you can easily manage as a member of the class.

[wanton wasp]

I don't think that it's the best approach, since coroutine runs on the main thread.

[spring creek]

A big reason to use coroutines is that they can yield the main thread for other code to run, and RESUME later.

[toxic helm]

Hey

So

sorry to interub yall

but

I tried to code something and it kinda buggs out

[spring creek]

Please type a paragraph instead of one word messages

[toxic helm]

I have a preety problem with that

I made a script that breaks a capsule in 2 when you press B, but that makes the capsule dissapear

[spring creek]

You can show the !code like the bot below will say. We can take a look

[tawny elk]

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[wanton wasp]

I just don't get why to use a coroutine not for a something task-like, if you need to run something 'forever' as Daphlat wrote, just use an update method.
It won't allocate anything.

[toxic helm]

https://gdl.space/azuwavisot.cpp

like this?

[spring creek]

For me, makes delays easier. I prefer a waitforseconds that I allocate once in awake over accruing deltaTime

But yeah, it's a choice

[spring creek]

Hmm, and that destroy call is destroying the miniCapsules?

Weird. They aren't being parented or anything

[jaunty needle]

Why do these have different positions when they're in the same place?

Talking about the x component here

[toxic helm]

I don't know :((

I suck at coding

[wanton wasp]

Do you have any other scripts attached to the capsule?

[dusk apex]

Definitely so and very applicable in his case however if you've got a lot of statements that require yielding at different intervals, it could be annoying to manage those states and the states of the delayed intervals.

[toxic helm]

No.

[spring creek]

Well, it was a question. Are the two minicapsules dissappearing?

[toxic helm]

They are dissapearing

[primal wind]

Do they perhaps have the same script on them?

[dusk apex]

It would be similar to using delegates with events versus calling functions directly.

[spring creek]

Can you show the inspector for the minicapsule prefab?

[toxic helm]

Sure

[spring creek]

They SAID no scripts attached. But that's part of why I asked for the inspector

[spring creek]

There is nothing in the code that should make them dissappear, and obviously no other scripts on them...
Can you make a short video showing it happen?

[toxic helm]

yes

[wanton wasp]

Can it be, that they spawn, but because of the prefab offset, they do it in the wrong place?

[toxic helm]

its a test btw

[wanton wasp]

They definitely spawn, try resetting offset of the prefab transform.
Also try freezing rigidbody position.

[toxic helm]

How would I do that?

[knotty sun]

man, look ar your heirarchy, they have not disappeared

[spring creek]

Order of ops SHOULD make the offset transform.position + (2,0,0) or (-2,0,0).

They are getting chucked, or are below the plane?

[wanton wasp]

Here, right click transform and then click reset

[spring creek]

The capsules tip, so the offsets are weird too, more up and down than left and right

Pause after you press b, select one of the minicapsules in the hierarchy and press f

[toxic helm]

Now what?

[ashen yoke]

where is it

[spring creek]

Well where did it take you

[toxic helm]

in the air

[spring creek]

Then they got chucked in the air

Didn't dissappear

[toxic helm]

hmmm

[spring creek]

Lower force a lot maybe?

[knotty sun]

debug.log your spawn position and force

[spring creek]

Also freeze the og capsules rotation

[toxic helm]

Why do they not have texture

like they arent capsusles

they are invisible

[spring creek]

You have no mesh renderer
#archived-code-general message

[knotty sun]

they do not have a renderer

[spring creek]

You may wanna recreate the prefab
Did you make an empty gameobject and add the collider and rigidbody?
Create a capsule instead

[ashen yoke]

just add capsule as a child

remove collider from child

[toxic helm]

so

I added a renderer

now what

I dont know

??

[ashen yoke]

well do you see it now?

[toxic helm]

no

i dont

[spring creek]

You ADDED a renderer? It should come with one...

[toxic helm]

Mesh renderer

[ashen yoke]

@toxic helm create a separate capsule

compare your capsule to the unity one

figure out the difference

apply the changes

[toxic helm]

on a empty smth smth

[urban orbit]

Guys, can someone get the exact world position of a screen touch with a perspective camera?

[ashen yoke]

on the way you can also read what different components do by clicking the help button to the right of the component title

[spring creek]

Don't use empty.. go to 3d, select capsule

[toxic helm]

After this what?

[ashen yoke]

there is no exact position for a perspective projection, you get only 2 axis x,y from the screen space, Z is arbitrary, you chose it

[spring creek]

Do whatever, that's it. In your case you wanted a rigidbody, right?

[ashen yoke]

describe your task and ill help with best method to find valid Z

[urban orbit]

I'm trying to do a top down game, can you get the position for only the z and x axis as if it was x and y for a 2D game?

[ashen yoke]

the height will remain constant?

doesnt matter really, this is a clear case of Plane struct

when you click, you create a Plane that points up, then you create a camera ray and do plane.Raycast

[urban orbit]

well, not really. But I basically don't want to get the y axis at all.

[ashen yoke]

this will give you the point on said plane

to modify height you just change the supplied position when you create the Plane

https://docs.unity3d.com/ScriptReference/Plane.html

[urban orbit]

is it possible to just ignore it and get the touch in the x and z coordinates?

[ashen yoke]

alternative to this is a cumbersome method of calculating distance from the camera

you need to provide a Z when you compute screen to world

since camera can be anywhere like -21.4f z

and your ground plane can be 1

the resulting Z of the point before convertion will be 20.4

you can do all that or just use the plane

[maiden junco]

tried. everything.

what the heck is happening

[simple egret]

It's probably not because of your code. Reboot, make sure your GPU drivers are up to date, install another version. That bright red Windows Update icon might have to do with it lol

[maiden junco]

just updated rtx drivers, imma try to update windows as well

ps. I changed ssd by cloning all of my data

[ashen yoke]

is that a laptop

[maiden junco]

nop

[ashen yoke]

any interfering programs

geforce experience, msi etc

[maiden junco]

idk

[ashen yoke]

did layout reset?

[maiden junco]

at first only hiearchy was rendered well, but when resetting layout everything turned to black

I also posted on #archived-hdrp for something similar

related also to the editor

[wanton wasp]

If nothing helps you can try DDU (Display Driver Uninstaller)
Download it from guru3d
Load in safe mode
Open it, select your gpu and click delete and reboot
Exit from safe mode
Install drivers again

[ashen yoke]

and install older drivers

half year old or more

[maiden junco]

im updating windows

and then if nothing helps ill try what you told me

[ashen yoke]

and dont install geforce experience

[maiden junco]

right

[heady iris]

GeForce: Experience Pain

[ashen yoke]

installed it once with the driver back when it released, uninstalled and never reinstalled it since

[wanton wasp]

So true

[primal wind]

Am i just so lucky to never have a bad experience with "dreaded" sofware?

[maiden junco]

uninstalled geforce experience

still black editor

imma try what R1nge suggested

[ashen yoke]

before that did you delete Library/Temp folders?

is that a new project?

[maiden junco]

ohhh

[heady iris]

always worth doing that

[maiden junco]

nop

[heady iris]

you can get some wild gremlins in there

[maiden junco]

nope

[ashen yoke]

create new project

see if same happens

[maiden junco]

ok imma try

ps. the project was with HDRP

should i create it completely blank? (i assume so)

[ashen yoke]

shouldnt really affect basic unity gui

blank yes

[maiden junco]

okk

[heady iris]

I could see a rendering error in the scene view causing the rest of the editor to explode

[ashen yoke]

true

may crash the driver even

test blank, if ok, test empty hdrp if ok, its Library/Temp or something specific to the project

[maiden junco]

right

Its kinda better but I still see weird behaviors that i've never seen, like wrong icons on wrong buttons that if i hover they look what they should look like

and still weird things

[ashen yoke]

tried reinstalling the editor itself?

[maiden junco]

I tried to reinstall it three times

even different versions

nothing helped

everything happened after I changed SSD nvme

which I cloned

from my old 256gb ssd nvme with a tool

never had these problems before

[maiden junco]

Just did what you said

[wanton wasp]

Did it help?

[maiden junco]

Im just going to install drivers

[maiden junco]

same

thing

I could try to install january drivers

idk tbh

[urban orbit]

Can someone please explain to me why having a perspective camera affects things like converting screenToWorld position or ViewportToWorldPos when you put the z-axis to 0 even though you don't want to use it?

I just want to achieve the same result as by using an orthographic camera

[rigid island]

https://unity.huh.how/programming/specifics/screentoworldpoint

[urban orbit]

is there a drawback of using a number I got from trial and error? I tested using distance of 10 and it now works and clamps devices with different screen sizes.

[opal bison]

The first one is a range variable, whats the second? I wanna look up a tutorial but no idea what to even search

[rigid island]

not sure about that one sry

[rigid island]

https://dbrizov.github.io/na-docs/attributes/drawer_attributes/min_max_slider.html

[loud wharf]

Sounds neat.

[valid blaze]

how to connect to planetscale, and get data? I am currently stuck on:

Assets\Database.cs(5,7): error CS0246: The type or namespace name 'MySql' could not be found (are you missing a using directive or an assembly reference?)

but I can't
dotnet add package MySql.Data --version 8.1.0 to unity
from terminal in project folder, ./Assets, or parent

[valid minnow]

if i had a function in a script that i wanna ignore if i check a box in unity editor, how would i write that? basically when i turn on the checkbox it turns on the function to appear in the editor like the variables in the function

[spring creek]

if (boolVariable) return;

^ this is an early return. Put it at the top of the function

That's the best I can say

The method will still be CALLED. It just won't do anything

[valid minnow]

well i know that but what i want, is if its check to true, the variables of the function being checked show in the edtior, and if its checked to false, the variables dont appear

[spring creek]

Is this an editor script? What do you mean "variables of the function"? Like local variables?

Are you using "function" to mean script? Maybe that's why I'm confused

[valid minnow]

yes, like when i check the box to say i wanna use that function, THEN everything having to do with that function appear in the editor

[valid minnow]

no

[spring creek]

I have no idea what this means. Sorry. Maybe someone else does?

[valid minnow]

think about it, when i check a bool in the inspector, saying for example, "i wanna use jumping" then the variables in the script for jumping appear in the inspector, but only when the "i wanna use jumping" box is ticked to true

[spring creek]

Those aren't local variables like I asked before. Those are just variables in the script. I think the confusing part is that you're talking about a function, but really that is kinda irrelevant to what you want.

But no, I have no idea how you'd do that that without a custom drawer

Maybe something like naughty attributes or odin could get you that functionality

[valid minnow]

yeah i explained it weird myb

[scarlet kindle]

is there any easy way to change all the fonts of every TMPro textfield in the editor? only other option I'm seeing is to make a script TextManager that deals with it on runtime... but that seems crappy

[valid minnow]

ehh well i dont really need it to do that but i was just thinking it help organize my scripts easier

[spring creek]

What you want is to toggle serialization

And I don't know how

Sounds interesting though

[valid minnow]

just use "find objects of type" then make a array and put each one in the array, then make a for loop saying to change each or font

[scarlet kindle]

o that sounds nice.

good idear

[valid minnow]

yeah idk i just thought there was a simple function or something to do it but maybe not

[spring creek]

I found this
https://stackoverflow.com/questions/47430785/how-to-hide-variables-depending-on-other-variables-values-in-unity-inspector

Seems like what you wanted

Like I thought though, it's a custom editor script

I didn't find any attribute for that unfortunately

[scarlet kindle]

so that works for my scene objects, sadly it doesn't for procedurally generated objects, since they are initialized after Start() I would need to somehow put a timer in update and only run once there instead?

like wait 0.2 seconds in update with a Coroutine, then check all the GameObjects?

damn i dont like this solution 😦

[valid minnow]

dang uhh well for the editor idk about that

[valid minnow]

you could just get the objects every time you instantaite them tho, but that would be resource heavy maybe

[valid minnow]

hmm intresting, thanks for looking 🙂

[scarlet kindle]

maybe there's a way I can just override the default loader for TMPro

to force a font whenever anything loads it

so that way it's before runtime

ya know?

well, sorta at runtime

sorta before

[valid minnow]

yeah look at the TMPro documentation maybe

[spring creek]

Do find at the beginner, and keep that in a list. And like ghostguy said, keep a reference when you instantiate them and add that to a list? Then just iterate the list

Might be a better way but I dunno

Maybe the Localization package could help?

Nothing I've ever done

[scarlet kindle]

yea but when do i iterate that list? cuz its after Start(), it could make some wonky looking behavior in the game

as in all the fonts will visibly change on the screen

[spring creek]

Whenever you wanted to change the font.
Are you saying you want to just change them NOW, outside runtime? Must have misunderstood, sorry

[scarlet kindle]

yea i just want a way to load one font into all my TMPros

before the game starts

i used a font i dont like, and i want to change it. but i dont want to have to change every tmpro in my editor

and also, if i want to change again later, its even more work

im investigating an override solution for some of the TMPro classes

[spring creek]

Uhhh, this looks really hacky.... but
https://gamedev.stackexchange.com/a/202702

[scarlet kindle]

LOL! i was thinking of doing a nameswap thing too, but so janky

so keep same name, but replace the reference in that file. it would work

there's gotta be a better way

maybe I just change the default font, and then remove the font from all the tmpros in my editor?

so then it just falls back to the default

ill try that out and see

nah doesnt work, it just changes them at the time you set it to None in the editor

do the default

short of just attaching a script to each tmpro and then hooking that up to a textmanager

yeah I mean that works, its annoying to attach a script to every TMPro GO, but it's only the ones that are prefabs

so not too bad

[tardy basin]

Is it the correct behaviour for the Editor to crash on stackoverflow? Isnt there a way I could somehow keep it alive (if, for example, I catch the exception in debugger).

[cosmic rain]

You can catch the exception in your code.

I'm not sure if a debugger attached to unity editor can break in error automatically. Might want to check the relevant settings in the debugger.

And yes, depending on where it is thrown, stack overflow might crash the editor.

[night harness]

    [SerializeField, HideInInspector] private GameSettings gameSettings = new GameSettings();
    [ShowInInspector, ShowIf("@gameSettings.hasLoaded == true")]
    public GameSettings GameSettings
    {
        get 
        {
            if (gameSettings != null)
                return (gameSettings);
            else
                return (null);
        }
    }

GameSettings is a POCO class with [Seralizable], Would my GameSettings property be getting a reference to gameSettings here or making a new instance/copy of it

[fading trail]

any advice for getting like the framework of 3D dungeon generator

like placing rooms, etc.

would i need to have a room prefab, or could i just generate using the floor tiles, wall tiles, etc. of a room

[cosmic rain]

Classes are passed by reference, so yes.

Also that null check is redundant. As well as the parenthesis around gameSettings and null.

[cosmic rain]

Either one is possible. It's all up to your system design.🤷‍♂️

[ashen yoke]

will never be null

[urban orbit]

guys, how can I create a plane to get the worldpos like in this article? https://unity.huh.how/programming/specifics/screentoworldpoint#interactive-diagram

[ashen yoke]

page doesnt load

what is there Plane struct?

[urban orbit]

What I don't understand is the warning

[night harness]

Yeah was just figuring that out haha, swapped it out for a better check 👍

[ashen yoke]

some gibberish

[ashen yoke]

what i mean is that SerializeField will create an instance

unity doesnt allow nulls on objects

[night harness]

yee

[ashen yoke]

and if it were null at any point

@gameSettings.hasLoaded == true would throw

whats up with the ( ) btw?

[night harness]

i just like ()'s around my returns...

[urban orbit]

My camera is set to perspective and I'm trying to clamp my player's movement with this code and it worked. Just that I solved it with trial and error until I ended up with the number 10 for the z-axis (for some reason).

Do you know a better way to do it? Or should I just leave it like this?

[ashen yoke]

i explained this already in detail to you

the 10 comes from distance of the camera to ground

reread our previous conversation its all there

what are you clamping?

player position?

[urban orbit]

yes

[ashen yoke]

make a trigger collider, use its .bounds to get min max

modify it in the scene to setup the playable zone

bounds are axis aligned so dont rotate it

[urban orbit]

okay

[worn oasis]

Hey guys, I'm receiving this error when trying to open a script to see its content in the inspector. Any ideas as to why this might be happening?

---

[cosmic rain]

Something wrong with your class definition I'd assume.

Or one of it's fields.

[worn oasis]

public class DischargedSpellcast : NetworkBehaviour

[cosmic rain]

Share the whole script.
!code

[tawny elk]

Posting code

📃 Large Code Blocks
Large code blocks should be posted as links to services like:
https://gdl.space/, https://paste.ofcode.org/, https://hatebin.com/
https://paste.myst.rs/, https://hastebin.com/

📃 Inline Code
Surround code with three backquotes. Not quotation marks.
To get C# formatting the first line should only contain cs or csharp.
Add a comment with a line number if there is an error message.
```cs
// Your code here
```
Do not share screenshots of code unless requested.

[cosmic rain]

Sharing the details of the error/info messages would be helpful as well

[worn oasis]

Unity.Netcode.Editor.NetworkBehaviourEditor.RenderNetworkContainerValueTypeIEquatable[T] (System.Int32 index) (at Library/PackageCache/com.unity.netcode.gameobjects@1.6.0/Editor/NetworkBehaviourEditor.cs:146)
System.Reflection.RuntimeMethodInfo.Invoke (System.Object obj, System.Reflection.BindingFlags invokeAttr, System.Reflection.Binder binder, System.Object[] parameters, System.Globalization.CultureInfo culture) (at <1c8569827291471e9db0dcd976e97952>:0)
Rethrow as TargetInvocationException: Exception has been thrown by the target of an invocation.
System.Reflection.RuntimeMethodInfo.Invoke (System.Object obj, System.Reflection.BindingFlags invokeAttr, System.Reflection.Binder binder, System.Object[] parameters, System.Globalization.CultureInfo culture) (at <1c8569827291471e9db0dcd976e97952>:0)
System.Reflection.MethodBase.Invoke (System.Object obj, System.Object[] parameters) (at <1c8569827291471e9db0dcd976e97952>:0)
Unity.Netcode.Editor.NetworkBehaviourEditor.RenderNetworkVariable (System.Int32 index) (at Library/PackageCache/com.unity.netcode.gameobjects@1.6.0/Editor/NetworkBehaviourEditor.cs:102)
Unity.Netcode.Editor.NetworkBehaviourEditor.OnInspectorGUI () (at Library/PackageCache/com.unity.netcode.gameobjects@1.6.0/Editor/NetworkBehaviourEditor.cs:268)
UnityEditor.UIElements.InspectorElement+<>c__DisplayClass59_0.<CreateIMGUIInspectorFromEditor>b__0 () (at <a47f8e4b37a644dfaac5a6945ff77d47>:0)
UnityEngine.GUIUtility:ProcessEvent(Int32, IntPtr, Boolean&)```

[cosmic rain]

Something with a network variable I guess.

[worn oasis]

beast

it was a declared network variable that was never used

I'm surprised it would throw such an error

what gave it away?

[cosmic rain]

There's RenderNetworkVariable method in the stack trace.

[worn oasis]

Awesome, thanks again

[valid blaze]

ERROR:

Unable to resolve reference 'Google.Protobuf'. Is the assembly missing or incompatible with the current platform?
Reference validation can be disabled in the Plugin Inspector.
Unable to resolve reference 'K4os.Compression.LZ4.Streams'. Is the assembly missing or incompatible with the current platform?
Reference validation can be disabled in the Plugin Inspector.
Unable to resolve reference 'BouncyCastle.Crypto'. Is the assembly missing or incompatible with the current platform?
Reference validation can be disabled in the Plugin Inspector```

CONTEXT:
can't find any of these in C:\Program Files (x86)\Microsoft SDKs\NuGetPackages even though it seems they are installed in nuget in VS. also in VS there are issues, but in unity I get the above err and 
I have tried to solve the missing MySQL.Data.dll in 2 ways. Through nuget, which wasn't recognized in namespace in Database.cs file, and by installing MySQLConnector and OBDC and copying a MySQL.Data.dll to Assets/Plugins which was recognized by both unity and VS..

ADDITIONAL ERRORS:
```Assembly 'Library/ScriptAssemblies/Assembly-CSharp-Editor.dll' will not be loaded due to errors:
Reference has errors 'Assembly-CSharp'.
and 
Assembly 'Library/ScriptAssemblies/Assembly-CSharp.dll' will not be loaded due to errors:
Reference has errors 'MySql.Data'.```

or should I just try to connect to DB through python script? what an annoyingly difficult task this is.

[cosmic rain]

Your message is really hard to read. It starts with an error and it's not even clear where the error ends and where the explanation of the issue is... Some proper explanation of what is going on is required: what happens, when happens, what causes ?

[spring creek]

You can format errors with this
```
```

So it looks like this

Mah big error stuff
Is bad
Don't like

[quartz folio]

they are installed in nuget in VS
Unity doesn't use Nuget

[valid blaze]

it seems as though it does? I was able to target the unity project in VS by selecting a file in scope, then Project->Manage Nuget packages

[quartz folio]

It doesn't

Unity generates its own csproj files

Either use a package that makes it support it via an editor window https://github.com/GlitchEnzo/NuGetForUnity or install all the dependencies manually.

[valid blaze]

so, I manually satisfy the missing Google.Protobuf','K4os.Compression.LZ4.Streams','BouncyCastle.Crypto' and also put them in Assets/Plugins?

ooh, ill try

😖

I.. I think I got it. I had to install Nuget for Unity. Then I updated 'Google.Protobuf','K4os.Compression.LZ4.Streams','BouncyCastle.Crypto.dll'
And I changed the .Net target to .NET framework from Standard 2.1
and was getting another error for System.Text.Encoding.CodePages and updated that through NuGet.
Kinda silly to have old broken dependencies on a fresh install of newest LTS, and had to third party plugin manager

Is there anything else I should know as a Unity noob? (aside from Scriptable Objects, I got that one)

[quartz folio]

Kinda silly to have old broken dependencies on a fresh install of LTS
It's not a fresh install, you added a random DLL to the project without the dependencies

[valid blaze]

DB connectivity is not stock? Or is it just Azure

[cosmic rain]

Most games don't use databases. You'd usually use a database for backend server, not necessarily based on unity engine.

[edgy ether]

so im not sure if this is the best place to ask this, but how do i change the "simple name" of an assembly file?
apparently i imported an assembly with the same name and im trying to keep both, so im opting to try to rename one and keep the other. but simply renaming the file doesn't change the fact that it's "simple name" is still the same.

[quartz folio]

Afaik, you don't. Why do you have two with the same name?

[edgy ether]

ah, 2 different unity packages uses the same name, but they're different versions so i wanted to keep them both and designate one as old

[quartz folio]

Is there not a way to just use the latest? What packages import the same assembly but different versions? Usually it'll just use the latest

[prime widget]

I need a list<T> that only keeps the 10 latest items added to it. Does a collection like this exist for c# already?

something that works like this?

        var list = new SomeTypeOfList<int>(3);

        list.Add(33);
        list.Add(71);
        list.Add(22);

        //after the following is called remove the oldest added value(in this case 33) from list and add 12 to the list
        list.Add(12);

[fervent furnace]

queue

[prime sinew]

https://discussions.unity.com/t/how-to-build-fixed-size-queue-with-c/127447/2

[prime widget]

that just constantly resizes past the size selected in instructor

[prime widget]

Awesome. Funnily enough the last post is the best answer.

public class FixedQueue<T> : Queue<T>
{
    private int threshold;

    public void FixedEnqueue(T value)
    {
        if (Count >= threshold)
            Dequeue();

        Enqueue(value);
    }
}
``` this is what i came up with and it appears to be working

[thin aurora]

To avoid using the wrong method by accident, you can completely replace it with your new method.

public class FixedQueue<T> : Queue<T>
{
    private int threshold;

    public new void Enqueue(T value)
    {
        if (Count >= threshold)
            Dequeue();

        base.Enqueue(value);
    }
}

Also, I suppose you want to make a constructor that accepts a threshold parameter?

[somber nacelle]

you'd probably want to make that Enqueue(value) to be base.Enqueue(value) or else it end up with infinite recursion

[loud wharf]

Totally.

[thin aurora]

Ah right, my mistake.

[swift aspen]

How do I assert for a Debug.LogError in a [Test]?

[mellow sigil]

https://docs.unity3d.com/Packages/com.unity.test-framework@1.3/manual/reference-custom-assertion.html

[ocean osprey]

So im making a game but every possible collision detectiong tutorial i find dosent work i have rigid bodies, colliders and everything but nothing works, anyone know a way i cat get collision to work?

[mellow sigil]

You'll have to show what you have for anyone to tell what you're doing wrong

post the code and screenshots of the inspectors of both objects

[ocean osprey]

ok

    void OnCollisionEnter(Collision col)
    {
        if (col.gameObject.name == "Player")
        {
            Debug.Log("It Worked");
        }
    }```

[prime sinew]

https://unity.huh.how/programming/physics-messages

[ocean osprey]

oh now ive seen what i've done

thankyou

[prime sinew]

what was it?

[ocean osprey]

i had it on enter instead of stay

[junior falcon]

Does anyone know if there is a setting to hide/show these:
I have various projects that don't show them, and some that do. Others working in the project have them, but I don't

Maybe that's more of an editor question but I don't know where to ask or what terms to search for.
I like to double click these to open the script, or single click to locate in project. Impossible to do the latter now without typing a search

[halcyon radish]

They could be using a custom inspector for the script on their system. Is it the same scripts that you're referring to that is not visible on there system?

[junior falcon]

There's no custom inspectors involved, for me it's every script in the entire project, for them, they're all there

[halcyon radish]

And the panel isn't set to Debug mode i'm guessing.

[junior falcon]

I can see it the equivalent in debug mode, but not normal

If it's not Unity it may be a plugin, like Odin, but I've spent too long looking, and I don't know what it would be called

[halcyon radish]

Is that how it looks on your side right?

Can you show a small snippet of how it looks?
Have you tried creating an empty project to make sure that everything is working fine in your version of unity?

[junior falcon]

Yeah this is all my side, the screenshots are from a personal project, I'll show one where it's not, 1 sec..

[halcyon radish]

Hmm, that's a strange one. I'm not sure now, just thinking about it.

So every script you make for that projects, even an empty one, will look like that?

[junior falcon]

Yeah 💯

[halcyon radish]

Does it happen in a new empty project?

Which would suggest there is something in the project that is causing this override.

[junior falcon]

Just checking

[junior falcon]

True, though we have ~24 projects that we're all in, I have the issue in all that I've recently opened

[junior falcon]

No 🤔

[halcyon radish]

You mentioned Odin, are they using this package in the project? There could be some conflict somewhere. I'm assuming you are not the original creator right?

[potent helm]

Could someone pls help me? Im trying to make player movement for an endless runner but i don't really know why my code doesn't work.

[junior falcon]

Yes Odin is in all of them, I'm not the original creator.
I thought the same there could be a clash. The ones blurred are part of our SDK, Odin is in one of those, it's the only editor plugin we use 🤔 I don't see anything else that would be causing it

[halcyon radish]

I haven't used Odin personally. But does it affect new script that you create? if its not an Odin script? (Sorry i'm not sure on the setup of it).

[junior falcon]

Cracked it! It's odin. There's a setting in preferences. (Literally the very first one) However something is borked with my installation because that page of the preferences is blank

@halcyon radish ^ Thanks for your help!

huuh - @ tag fixed

[jagged rampart]

i have a question and im not sure what i need to show to get help, i have a animation for run jump fall and idle, run and idle work just fine, i have a SetBool for IsJumping and i have code for it to be true on jump. issue is when i jump no animation but the weird thing is if i jump again before i hit the ground the animation will then play, so the jumping animation only works if i press jump two times

[loud wharf]

Very, very late reply but if you want to have the same functionality, you can use this.
Used like this [Restrict(Restriction = typeof(IMyInterface))] public Monobehaviour _iMyInterface;.
Can't do IMyInterface as a field type, it won't show in the inspector, so ya have to cast it.
public IMyInterface I_MyInterface => (IMyInterface)_iMyInterface;

[halcyon radish]

Awesome. Glad i could help.

[junior falcon]

What package is the [Restrict()] attribute from?

[vague tundra]

Oh that's really cool, thanks @loud wharf !

[loud wharf]

Literally on the attached cs file.

[junior falcon]

Clicks expand and facepalms, sorry looked past it. Nifty!

[loud wharf]

I actually just copied this code off a yt tutorial, then added Exclusion and Attributes.
Idk, might be handy. Maybe not.

[junior falcon]

I've needed similar in the past and it was a custom attribute solution then, would be a nifty one to be a unity native

[heady iris]

I ~really~ wish you could just make a field of type IWhatever that gets serialized as a UnityEngine.Object

[loud wharf]

Yeah i tried it whilst having that attribute, unity won't serialise it.

[heady iris]

just trust me, editor 😦

[loud wharf]

[heady iris]

i swear i'll put the right thing in it

but yeah, that's not a half bad idea

the property smooths over the wrong type

[loud wharf]

Unity could just do interface fields as implicitly scriptable-objects/monobehaviour only but explicitly accepts any scripts that implements said interface.

Or maybe an attribute.

🤷‍♀️

[heady iris]

yeah

[celest iron]

How do I change a tile based on it's neighbors?
Not talking about changing the sprite (this I know how to do), but changing this tile to another tile if all of the neighbors aren't this tile.
For example, if water tile is surrounded by 8 ground tiles, change this water tile to a ground tile
The solutions I find online only changes the sprite, which isn't what I want.

I didn't know where to ask this tho, I assume here because talking about scriptable tiles

[runic granite]

hi, i want to make a curtain that simulated real life, and i am bit struggling where i could fold the curtain in realtime, anyone have a solution for that?

[steady moat]

You could try unity cloth system. Or use an animation software to create an animation

[runic granite]

i tried using cloth system but can i attached it to other game obj?, i only know that it could be interacted by assignt collider on what obj that can be interacted with

oh,and this will be used in VR

[steady moat]

Cloth in VR is not a good idea.

Make an animation

[runic granite]

i see, thanks for the suggestion

[regal flame]

genuine question, why would cloth in vr be a bad idea?

im guess GPU is already pushing limits being vr and all, never worked with cloth stuff before. is it that bad?

[runic granite]

if im not wrong cloths mainly use CPU to calculate physics

and VR basically just glorified android phone

for quest 2 at least

[regal flame]

ah makes sense.

[delicate zinc]

bit of a question regarding marking a game object as static

If i where to instantiate the gameObject that's marked as Static at runtime, would that still conserve the usefulness of static game objects?

asking because i've been working on a dungeoncrawler and the time to make the dungeon generation has come, i've been thinking about multiple ways to approach this and i think the best one would be having rooms as Prefabs and instantiating said rooms at start to build an explorable dungeon

however, i dont know exactly if this still allows said prefabs to leverage the ability of being static, considering i'm spawning the rooms on dungeon creation

if i do this prefab aproach i would ideally use or create some assets like this one on the asset store, but i'd still like to have some sort of feedback/ideas on how to tackle this issue in the best way possible
https://assetstore.unity.com/packages/3d/environments/dungeons/ultimate-low-poly-dungeon-143535

at least i know that i'd have to use bounding boxes to detemrine the sizes of rooms, thankfully i've already solved that issue by using the bounds.encapsulate method, pretty handy

[green breach]

From the unity docs: https://docs.unity3d.com/Manual/StaticObjects.html

if a GameObject
does not move at runtime, it is known as a static GameObject. if a GameObject moves at runtime, it is known as a dynamic GameObject.

Many systems in Unity can precompute information about static GameObjects in the Editor. Because the GameObjects do not move, the results of these calculations are still valid at runtime. This means that Unity can save on runtime calculations, and potentially improve performance.

[swift falcon]

i have a json file
which has some data in it,and i want to upload it into my c# script and put it inside a dictionary
what is the most straightforward method to do this

[simple egret]

How does the JSON looks like? You might be able to do it in one line of code

[swift falcon]

{"Data":[{"Name":"name1","Job":"Job1"},{"Name":"name2","Job":"Job2"}]}

[simple egret]

That would map to a class containing a List<T> more than a Dictionary, but that's still doable

[swift falcon]

and how would i really approach it

[simple egret]

You need a class to contain individual { string Name, string Job } objects, and another class that stores a list of it (the outer object { List<TheClass> Data }

[swift falcon]

do i have to add [System.Serializable] over the classes ?

[simple egret]

No

[swift falcon]

public class EmployeeInfo
{
public string Name;
public string Job;
}
public class EmployeeList
{
public EmployeeInfo[] Data;
}

[swift falcon]

something like this right ?

[simple egret]

Yes

[swift falcon]

and use json.fileutility ?

[simple egret]

JsonUtility.FromJson<EmployeeList>(str)

[swift falcon]

public TextAsset fileData;
public EmployeeList eL=new EmployeeList();
public class EmployeeInfo
{
public string Name;
public string Job;
}
public class EmployeeList
{
public EmployeeInfo[] Data;
}
private void Start()
{
eL = JsonUtility.FromJson<EmployeeList>(fileData.text);
}

good ?

[simple egret]

Yes, but you don't need to do new EmployeeList() in the field initializer, as you'll be replacing it anyway when Start runs

[swift falcon]

got it

[simple egret]

FromJson takes care of creating a new instance and filling it out for you

[swift falcon]

public TextAsset fileData;
public EmployeeList eL;
public class EmployeeInfo
{
public string Name;
public string Job;
}
public class EmployeeList
{
public EmployeeInfo[] Data;
}
private void Start()
{
eL = JsonUtility.FromJson<EmployeeList>(fileData.text);
Debug.Log(eL.Data.Length);
}

[simple egret]

Error on line 21, you tried to access something on a null reference

[swift falcon]

Debug.Log(eL.Data.Length); this

is line 21

[simple egret]

Either el was null (deserialization failed totally) or .Data was null (failed partially)

[swift falcon]

this works if I use [System.Serializable]

[simple egret]

I guess JsonUtility needs it to be serializable

[simple egret]

I use the Far Superior™️ Newtonsoft.json

[swift falcon]

yes

how to work with that

[swift falcon]

how to solve this error

[simple egret]

More information in the stack trace, as always

[delicate zinc]

i mean, yes, i did read the documentation, but i'mm still curious as to wether spawning the prefab and keeping it there constantly would mean its static or not

[simple egret]

Select the log to see more information in a box below the console

[floral kiln]

Anyone know how I can structure a class to be the deserialized version of this json object?

{
  "totalPages": 1,
  "data": [
    {
      "lastUpdate": 1694187564809,
      "targetName": "Black Box VR Global Feed",
      "actors": [
        {
          "name": "qatest"
        },
        {
          "name": "city_m"
        },
        {
          "name": "deejed"
        }
      ],
      "actorsCount": 58,
      "description": "qatest, city_m, deejed and 56 others posted in Black Box VR Global Feed"
    }
  ]
}

[simple egret]

Don't crosspost please

Keep the question in one channel

[fervent furnace]

dont cross post
{}=object
[]=array
so [{},{},{}...] array of some objects
and "key": value of this key, (the data type is implicitly stated here eg string is quoted, bounded by ")
eg the first field of this json will be

public int totalPages;//the value is 1 means it is an integer

[floral kiln]

Sorry about that guys, but selfishly so, I got help here and not there, so I'll delete it there.

This is what I had so far:

public class AmityNotificationPage
{
    public class Data
    {
        public long lastUpdate;
        public string targetType;
        public string verb;
        public string v_tarid_uid;
        public bool hasRead;
        public string imageUrl;
        public string avatarCustomUrl;
        public string targetName;
        public Dictionary<string, string> actors;
        public int actorsCount;
        public string parentTargetId;
        public string lastActionId;
        public string lastActionSegmentNo;
        public string targetId;
        public string description;
    }

    public int totalPages;
    public Data data;
}

so since [] = array, data should be an array?
But it has key and value pairs?

Ah so it's an array of <string, string> pairs

[simple egret]

actors is not in form of a Dictionary<T, T> in the JSON yeah

It would be more of a class containing a single name field of type string

[floral kiln]

I'll simplify the original json I sent here cause once I know how to do 1 of them, I can do the rest

[heady iris]

data would be a list of Data

notice how the json you posted above looks like this

data: [
  {
  
  }
]

[floral kiln]

The hard part is just how to structure data and then actors

[heady iris]

actors would also be a list of Actors

where Actor has just one field in it, yeah

[floral kiln]

True, since they both have the same [{}, {}, ...] form

List of type string?

[heady iris]

No. List<Data>

[simple egret]

List of string would be serialized as [ "a", "b", "c" ] so no

[heady iris]

your Data class is mostly correct, except that actors is wrong

because actors should be a List<Actor>

Every time you see a [ ], that means you need a List of whatever you see inside the square brackets.

[floral kiln]

hmmm why can data have its own class, but actors doesnt need to.
is it cause actors has the same key for each entry ("name")?

[heady iris]

actors does

actors is not a list of strings

it's a list of objects

[floral kiln]

Doesn't this imply there can be more than 1 data in this single object?

but you're right... that's exactly it, true

[heady iris]

Indeed.

[floral kiln]

it just so happens we only have 1 here

[heady iris]

One way to do this is to work from the inside out

start at the innermost object or array you can find

if it's an object, make up a new class for it

if it's an array, then remember you need a List<T> (where T is whatever's in the brackets)

[floral kiln]

public class AmityNotificationPage
{
    public class Actor
    {
        public string name;
    }

    public class Data
    {
        public long lastUpdate;
        public string targetType;
        public string verb;
        public string v_tarid_uid;
        public bool hasRead;
        public string imageUrl;
        public string avatarCustomUrl;
        public string targetName;
        public List<Actor> actors;
        public int actorsCount;
        public string parentTargetId;
        public string lastActionId;
        public string lastActionSegmentNo;
        public string targetId;
        public string description;
    }

    public int totalPages;
    public List<Data> data;
}

This look better?

[heady iris]

so I might take these steps

{
  "totalPages": 1,
  "data": [
    {
      "lastUpdate": 1694187564809,
      "targetName": "Black Box VR Global Feed",
      "actors": [
        Actor,
        Actor,
        Actor
      ],
      "actorsCount": 58,
      "description": "qatest, city_m, deejed and 56 others posted in Black Box VR Global Feed"
    }
  ]
}

{
  "totalPages": 1,
  "data": [
     Data
  ]
}

AmityNotificationPage

and then we're done

[heady iris]

That's looking good.

[floral kiln]

oh I seeee. Makes it simpler to break it down

Thank you @heady iris and @simple egret

[heady iris]

np!

[swift falcon]

using System.Collections;
using System.Collections.Generic;
using UnityEngine;
using UnityEngine.SceneManagement;
using System.IO;
public class EmployeeB : MonoBehaviour
{
    public TextAsset fileData;
    public EmployeeList eL;
    [System.Serializable]
    public class EmployeeInfo
    {
        public string Name;
        public int Wage;
        public int Number;
    }
    [System.Serializable]
    public class EmployeeList
    {
        public EmployeeInfo[] Data;
    }
    private void Awake()
    {
        
    }
    void LoadDataFromJson()
    {
        eL = JsonUtility.FromJson<EmployeeList>(fileData.text);
        
    }
    void SaveDataToJson()
    {
        string j=JsonUtility.ToJson(eL);
        File.WriteAllText(j,fileData.text);
    }
    public void BackButton()
    {
        LoadDataFromJson();
        eL.Data[0].Number += 1;
        SaveDataToJson();
    }
    private void Start()
    {
       
    }
}

here is my code

i can't seem to get the hang of writing the data into json file

please suggest me a better way to handle the json

[gray mural]

Hello! First of all, you have to understand what parameters File.WriteAllText takes.
It takes path as its first and contents as second parameter. Both are strings.

so in your code I don't see where you are supposed to get a path to your file

you should probabaly create a method for this ?

public string GetPath() => $@"{Application.dataPath}/Your/Desired/Json/Location/fileName.json";

so you get a string from a class and write is using a path

[swift falcon]

This smol registercallback invokes a StackOverFlow Exception. Any idea "why"?

Oh let me send you updateRotationCallback too

[gray mural]

!code, please

[tawny elk]

Posting code

📃 Large Code Blocks
Large code blocks should be posted as links to services like:
https://gdl.space/, https://paste.ofcode.org/, https://hatebin.com/
https://paste.myst.rs/, https://hastebin.com/

📃 Inline Code
Surround code with three backquotes. Not quotation marks.
To get C# formatting the first line should only contain cs or csharp.
Add a comment with a line number if there is an error message.
```cs
// Your code here
```
Do not share screenshots of code unless requested.

[swift falcon]

Sure

public override VisualElement CreatePropertyGUI(SerializedProperty property)
    {
        // Create a new VisualElement to be the root of our inspector UI
        VisualElement container = new();

        // Load and clone a visual tree from UXML for next values
        VisualTreeAsset visualTree = AssetDatabase.LoadAssetAtPath<VisualTreeAsset>("Assets/Scripts/Addressables/Editor/InstantiationParametersSerializableUXML.uxml");
        visualTree.CloneTree(container);

        // Get Properties
        SerializedProperty rotProp = property.FindPropertyRelative("m_Rotation");
        SerializedProperty rotHintProp = property.FindPropertyRelative("m_RotationHint");

        // Bind Vector3 m_RotationHint property to Quaternion m_Rotation property with a callback
        var rotationHintElement = container.Q("RotationHint");
        
        // This is the callback causing the StackOverFlow
        Action<Vector3> updateRotationCallback =
        (value) =>
            {
                rotProp.quaternionValue = Quaternion.Euler(value);

                property.serializedObject.ApplyModifiedProperties();
            }
        ;

        // Initialize Rotation for first time only
        updateRotationCallback(rotHintProp.vector3Value);

        // Update current Rotation based on m_RotationHint's VisualElement value on change
        rotationHintElement.RegisterCallback<ChangeEvent<Vector3>>(
            (evt) =>
            {
                updateRotationCallback(evt.newValue);
            }
        );

        // Return the finished inspector UI
        return container;
    }

This works when you create the object of property drawer normally. But when you create an array of that object, it gets broken somehow.

[gray mural]

I haven't ever worked with VisualElements, hope you don't mind if I try to help you

you trigger the same callback when you call updateRotationCallback and modify serialized property

so it leads to infinite while loop

[swift falcon]

What i first try is, putting property.serializedObject.Update(); which is aborts the unsaved properties and i got this error:

UnityEditor.RetainedMode:UpdateSchedulers ()```

Okey i am going to remove it

Gave me the same error

[gray mural]

I don't know if it's gonna work, but you can try to check if you're not modifying it right now

using mere bools

bool isUpdatingRot = false;

Action<Vector3> updateRotationCallback =
(value) =>
{
    if (!isUpdatingRot)
    {
        isUpdatingRot = true;

        rotProp.quaternionValue = Quaternion.Euler(value);
        property.serializedObject.ApplyModifiedProperties();

        isUpdatingRot = false;
    }
};

perhaps you should try it

[swift falcon]

Sure

No not works. Now i will try to edit the UXML

[gray mural]

what if you check if they are not the same?

Action<Vector3> updateRotationCallback =
(value) =>
{
    Quaternion newRot = Quaternion.Euler(value);

    // Check if the new value is different from the existing one
    // They may be the same and this can cause an infinite while loop
    if (rotProp.quaternionValue != newRot)
    {
        rotProp.quaternionValue = newRot;
        property.serializedObject.ApplyModifiedProperties();
    }
};

[swift falcon]

Hm it does downgrade the exception to

UnityEditor.RetainedMode:UpdateSchedulers ()```

[gray mural]

oh..

it probably existed before, but was not send due to stack overflow

google doesn't have this error

[swift falcon]

Yep people usually face this issue with unity's packages lmao

I think i need to recreate this one

To solve

[gray mural]

I guess you have to make sure that all properties are set correctly

[shell scarab]

#↕️┃editor-extensions will probably be more helpful

[gray mural]

@swift falcon also make sure that the path is correct

[swift falcon]

Ive been here for months but never saw this channel lmao

[shell scarab]

lol

can someone help me name my class? It just holds a few cancellation token sources and cancells them when needed. right now it's called AsyncApplicationCancellationManager but that's a bit unwieldy.

[gray mural]

CancellationManager, TokenManager

[ashen yoke]

AsyncHandles

[shell scarab]

I like that one

[gray mural]

what is the best way to make a grid with 1x1 squares?

[ashen yoke]

what sort of grid

[gray mural]

to spawn my items

so I will drag them on that grid

I actually can do that via code

but it should be done with grid better?

[ashen yoke]

what are you asking, how to create the ui, visuals, underlying structure?

[gray mural]

is there are nice way to create a non-ui grid for GameObjects?

[ashen yoke]

its just a 2d array + positions snapping

[shell scarab]

nested for loop probably:

for(float a = startPoint.x; a <= endPoint.x; a += spacing) {
  for(float b = startPoint.y; b <= endPoint.y; b += spacing) {
    // grid stuff
    GameObject a = new();
    a.transform.position = new Vector2(a, b);
  }
}

for a vector3 just add another for loop.

[gray mural]

oh, it's spawning gameobjects

[shell scarab]

oh, you're asking how to snap to a grid?

[gray mural]

I instantiate different items on an empty area, those items are not saved in any list now, they are then saved in the json file (from Transform _environment)

[gray mural]

yeah, probably ?

if that's possibly

[shell scarab]

point *= Mathf.Pow(PointDistance, -1);
point.x = Mathf.Round(point.x);
point.y = Mathf.Round(point.y);
point /= Mathf.Pow(PointDistance, -1);

this is what I use currently.

where PointDistance is your grid size

[ashen yoke]

class Slot
{
    public GameObject value;
    public Vector3 position;
}

Slot[,] grid;

bool TryPlace(GameObject obj, Vector3 at)
{
    Slot slot = grid[(int)at.x, (int)at.z];
    if(slot.value != null)
        return false;
    slot.value = obj;
    obj.transform.position = slot.position;
    return true;
}

[shell scarab]

I do the inverse power to get the denominator of the fraction that the decimal represents (essentially. Not actually what's happening but easier to understand). So if I make my grid size 0.25, it would correctly snap to 4 positions along a 1 unit line. If I did not do the inverse pow like i'm doing I would have to make my grid size 4 to snap to 4 positions per unit, which is a bit conter intuitive imo.

[gray mural]

I see, so there is no smth like build-in way to build a custom grid

[gray mural]

but why do you have to pow it..?

[shell scarab]

no but that's easy enough, it snaps a position to a point.

[shell scarab]

I explain here @gray mural

you could drop the pow, but then when you set your grid size it's a bit counter-intuitive. A grid size of 4 would not be 4 unity units per grid unit, it would be 4 grid units per unity unit. (if I don't pow it) If I do pow it, a grid size of 4 would be 4 unity units per grid unit.

[robust dome]

grid snapping exists in the editor but it is for non runtime

[shell scarab]

I hope that makes sense, it's a bit confusing to explain.

[gray mural]

it's quite confusing for me as well

[shell scarab]

let me draw something rq lmao

[gray mural]

I actually don't want to make a fixed size for it

I just want to to drag my items in grid

[shell scarab]

no there is no fixed size for my method. It just rounds the object's position to a point in space.

[gray mural]

so it's probably just manipulations with an item using mouse position

[gray mural]

I see, and will the object be in the middle of the mouse this way?

[ashen yoke]

if you use mouse position, it will be the position from which you derive object position

mouse moves freely, object snaps

[gray mural]

oh, yeah, that makes sense

[ashen yoke]

should be some offset

[gray mural]

I will just have to make it snap just when the mouse is inside the 1x1

[ashen yoke]

initial click to object position, which is then added to current mouse position, from which you get the snapped position

i think we already had this discussion before

you can also lerp the object pos for juice 🙂

[shell scarab]

Each black square is a unity square unit. The left is with the gid's size powed to -1. The right is if it's not.

So if I put a grid size of 0.5 without powing it, the right is what I'd get. With powing it, the left is what I'd get.

If I put a grid size of 2 without powing it, the left is what I'd get. With powing it, the right is what I'd get.

I think. May be wrong on the right side one, but the left side one is correct. I hope this gets the point across.

[ashen yoke]

i think i use this for snapping/

        [MethodImpl(MethodImplOptions.AggressiveInlining)]
        public static float RoundTo(float value, float to)
        {
            return Mathf.Round(value / to) * to;
        }```

i think it works, so far

[shell scarab]

that's what I do too, but for me it's easier to think that for example 0.5 grid size is a point every 0.5 units instead of a point every like 2 units or whatever it would be. So instead of passing in 2 as to, I would pass in 0.5 as to and then pow it with -1 (which gives 2)

[gray mural]

so I may be wrong, but using that formula, if I have (5, 5) vector, it will give me (6, 6)

[ashen yoke]

yeah it works

    public static Vector3 RoundTo(Vector3 value, float to)
    {
        return new Vector3(
            RoundTo(value.x, to),
            RoundTo(value.y, to),
            RoundTo(value.z, to));
    }

[gray mural]

oh, hold on, the size isn't 2 this way..

[shell scarab]

it depends on what your grid size/spacing is. If your grid size is 6 with my formula, then yes (I'm pretty sure at least. Not good at quick maths.).

[gray mural]

but why do we have to use grid size if it fully depends on it?

we can just round it actually?

[shell scarab]

Im just calling it grid size. it' just the grid spacing

I am rounding

[gray mural]

I think we can just round it without using grid size?

[shell scarab]

no

[swift falcon]

What [MethodImpl(MethodImplOptions.AggressiveInlining)] does there?

[shell scarab]

you cannot pass a float to round towards in the round function.

[ashen yoke]

instructs compiler to attempt to inline this AGRESSIVELY 😡

[shell scarab]

@ashen yoke ik what it does but I was gonna ask why you thought it was needed?

[ashen yoke]

because those things tend to be hotpaths

im happily trading exe size over performance on hotpaths

[gray mural]

just round all floats like .cache did?

[ashen yoke]

most of my utils have this flag

[gray mural]

maybe I don't understand something

[shell scarab]

he posted his own code for the RoundTo function

[shell scarab]

according to the docs "Unnecessary use of this attribute can reduce performance. The attribute might cause implementation limits to be encountered that will result in slower generated code."

[gray mural]

yes.

[ashen yoke]

yes, may, can

[gray mural]

but it looks cool ?

[ashen yoke]

but tests i did shown massive gains, generally

[shell scarab]

as I said. It's easier for me to imagine a grid as spacing. So if my grid spacing is 0.25, I want my objects to be placed every 0.25 units, not ever 4 units.

[gray mural]

oh.. that's what you mean...

[shell scarab]

because the whole round(number / to) * to moves towards smaller rounding increments the larger to is.

[gray mural]

but it's very strange ?

if you have 100x100 grid

you want to make small blocks .01x.01 ?

or by grid spacing you mean space between objects?

[shell scarab]

I guess I explained it badly, my apologies. yes.

[gray mural]

not the size of objects?

[gray mural]

I guess I am just too dumb to understand it

[shell scarab]

because here, as to gets larger, it rounds to smaller increments.

anyways @ashen yoke why not AggressiveOptimization then? or did you test it?

[gray mural]

I see, it probably will be possible to do with spaces, but it's not needed, because I don't want any spacings

[ashen yoke]

did you use it?

[shell scarab]

no. I just trust the compiler to be smart enough.

[ashen yoke]

did you use AgressiveInlining?

[shell scarab]

no

[gray mural]

so I will try to round my mouse position and add a little offset if needed tomorrow, thank you both for your help ;D appreciate that

[ashen yoke]

its just that AggressiveOptimization is not available on 4.8

[shell scarab]

oh really?

well all it does is skip T0 compilation and does not do regular JIT on it.

[ashen yoke]

ill check it out when we move to unity version supporting new features

[shell scarab]

I wonder how many references/calls a method needs before [MethodImpl(MethodImplOptions.AggressiveInlining)] improves performance. I have 5 references but one is in a loop. I tried it but it did not change anything.

[ashen yoke]

how are you testing it?

[shell scarab]

I'm logging the time and subtracting the time for my existing code already. I just added that to two methods and it didn't change the time it took.

[ashen yoke]

about the JIT and trusting it, you know of the intrinsics initiative? core clr and so on, when it went open source and the amount of optimizations skyrocketed?

[shell scarab]

no i don't know of that

[ashen yoke]

well the jit is open source, people improve it all the time for years

problem for us is that this started after 4.8

when unity will finally introduce updated new .net i will have to relearn everything

[ashen yoke]

i mean, is that in vs standalone project, which .net, if its unity, release mode or not

build or editor

[shell scarab]

i would think it would effect the timing even a little even not in release mode?

[ashen yoke]

no

optimizations only apply to release mode

[shell scarab]

Why?

[ashen yoke]

thats how .net apps work afaik, a flag is set for compiler optimizations to be enabled or not

in debug mode they are not enabled

[shell scarab]

does unity run it in debug mode? I don't have debug mode enabled.

[ashen yoke]

yes its by default in debug build mode

editor itself

same as a new project in vs

defaults to debug build with pdb and disabled optimizations

[shell scarab]

what is the debug mode for unity then

[ashen yoke]

its .net terminology, unity uses it

[shell scarab]

i mean this little button

what's it do

[ashen yoke]

switches release/debug compilation mode

create new vs project for 4.8

[shell scarab]

and by default it's off so the optimization should affect it, no?

[ashen yoke]

open properties, see the build modes, see that release has optimizations enabled, debug doesnt

[shell scarab]

anyways, I tested it in a build. It's like .2 ms faster so i guess I'll keep it.

[ashen yoke]

yes, editor by default runs with disabled optimizations, builds have them enabled

release mode will compile assemblies as if it was a build, with all optimizations enabled

its still not indicative of build performance, but its closer

[shell scarab]

I thought I've been in release mode cus it's the bug crossed out.

[ashen yoke]

yes you were, didnt notice

[shell scarab]

I usually just stay in release mode unless I have errors leading me to the wrong lines, which can sometimes happen in release mode...

especially with the damn burst compiler lol

[ashen yoke]

just thought more about it, im basing my intuition about inline on the struct based ecs i did shortly after unity announced its own, and there inline in some cases improved performance x10 and more, mostly with granular small methods on hotpaths

i observed actual massive gains, and since barely anything changed since then in unity's .net im still relying on those observations

oh and unity seems to agree

[shell scarab]

?

[ashen yoke]

        [MethodImpl(MethodImplOptions.AggressiveInlining)]
        public uint3x4(uint3 c0, uint3 c1, uint3 c2, uint3 c3)
        {
            this.c0 = c0;
            this.c1 = c1;
            this.c2 = c2;
            this.c3 = c3;
        }

[shell scarab]

ah lol

[ashen yoke]

all of Unity.Mathematics is covered by it

[shell scarab]

yea, hotpaths make sense for aggressive inlining.

I also have a question about assemblies. Is it just an organizational choice to split your project up?

[ashen yoke]

depends

if you have setup the asmb hierarchy properly you can save up on compile time, generally assemblies are treated as the main player in .net, everything is designed around it having a public and internal sides

[swift falcon]

does json files not work in android build ?

[shell scarab]

hows it speed it up?

[ashen yoke]

unity takes away direct work with assemblies, linking them, chaining projects, with closest thing being asdefs

[ashen yoke]

https://docs.unity3d.com/Manual/ScriptCompilationAssemblyDefinitionFiles.html

[shell scarab]

ah so the correct way to do it is to chain it one-way?

[ashen yoke]

thats the only way to do it, afaik from out of unity experience

[shell scarab]

does it give you an error if you try to reference an essembly that is referenced by the assembly you're trying to reference?

[ashen yoke]

yep

[shell scarab]

ah

also reminds me of a project I want to try. I want to make a c++ DLL with some stuff in it and call it in unity. Wonder if it'd make my pathfinding faster... I'd have to manage the threads myself tho...

[rancid frost]

I want to enable and disable those UI object(red line right side), on a certain animation keyframe. How do I do that?

[shell scarab]

this button I believe. It can let you trigger script execution on certain frames. So you can disable it without it being a child.

[ashen yoke]

press record, disable

they have to children of the object with animator on it

[rancid frost]

ahh I see

[shell scarab]

if you make a script disable it you can use this method

[ashen yoke]

you can do it without event if you make a script that relays state on Enable/Disable

[rancid frost]

Got it it works now!

[ashen yoke]

sounds dirty, but events are dirty to me themselves, how they are implemented

[shell scarab]

unity events or events in general

cus I'm biased towards events.

[ashen yoke]

unity anim events in particular

[shell scarab]

lol

[ashen yoke]

i mean..

lets find why animations broke, simple maintenance task - go through all animations and compare the strings in events to the method name

[rancid frost]

I used enums with those strings

much better

[ashen yoke]

i use animancer and custom events

[rancid frost]

is that a custom animator?

[shell scarab]

never seen this before

mine just has a dropdown of methods to select once I add it to an object.

[rancid frost]

that dropdown is actually anoying

no scrollbar?

like cmon

[shell scarab]

better than whatever that is

[rancid frost]

lmao

you can click on them individually @shell scarab

[shell scarab]

yea

hold on

@rancid frost

[rancid frost]

You guys ever feel guilty playing video games ever since u started making video games?
Now i get guilty knowing I oculd be making a game instead of playing it

[rancid frost]

ive seen that too sec

Ahh, so its when u click on an animation object vs when you dont

[simple egret]

You get the dropdown version when you select the animation event while focused on an object in the scene (or prefab) that has your Animator attached

Else you get the generic "enter anything" version

[rancid frost]

if u click on the object(right) directly, u get that

[rancid frost]

this

[ashen yoke]

that i never seen before, thanks

still, profoundly flawed approach in large projects

maintenance hell

[shell scarab]

idk, never had it break on me and I've been in a few large projects.

just don't ever rename the method haha

[zealous dawn]

I posted this the other day in #🏃┃animation but I have a feeling this problem is going to require a more… custom solution

I'm trying to record a specific texture and audio while in the production game, not in the editor, but I can't find a great tool for the job. Unity Recorder only works in the editor and is a non-option, sadly.

Right now I'm using Spout2 with OBS for the texture along with a window recorder also in OBS for the audio, but it has quality and desync issues that I'm trying to avoid, plus it's just an overall complex way of doing things.

Does anyone have any recommendations or ideas on how I could record all of this?

[drowsy holly]

quick question: I have a simple script that I attach to lamps from a prefab pack to change their material (from non-emissive to emissive). Is there a way to have defaults through the editor for every prefab that uses the script? (to avoid manually setting the on/off material on numerous lamp prefabs)

[leaden ice]

Yep select the script from the project window and set the script defaults

[drowsy holly]

I tried that but I get this, and after assining the materials here the prefabs still don't have it by default 😦

[leaden ice]

You get what?

[leaden ice]

Yes

That's expected

Isn't that what you are doing

Adding this script to objects in edit mode?

[drowsy holly]

hmm, is the expected behavior that prefabs that have this script will have those materials by default?

[leaden ice]

The expected behavior is that if you attach the script to an object in the editor after setting the defaults, the references will be set

If you attached it before setting the defaults, nothing will happen

[drowsy holly]

OH

that's exactly what I did - I thought they'd update dynamically or something

[leaden ice]

No

[drowsy holly]

ok yeah, that works

thank you

[green radish]

would it be more performant to iterate through more small tilemaps, or less big tilemaps?

trying to decide how big each chunk of tiles should be for my sandbox game

[steady moat]

It depends on the game.

Usually, you want to have as few as "unused" tile activated.

With the least amount of chunk

[green radish]

so as few active tilemaps as possible in the project?

[steady moat]

So, if you have a game that use large amount of tile, larger chunks make more sense.

[steady moat]

Both. Tile maps and tile

The ideal scenario, is 1 tilemap that contains all the used tile and no non used tiles.

[green radish]

is it mainly just as few active tiles as possible or do tilemaps themselves have a considerable computational cost by existing?

[steady moat]

Without even knowing the cost of tilemaps, the only fact that you have more than necessary should be enough to you to know that you want to reduce them.

However, that being said, it is if you strives to have the best performance.

In most case, you can just profile and see for yourself.

Sometimes, inefficient method are not enough inefficient to matter.

[green radish]

I ask because the idea I had was for each chunk to be its own tilemap, then a 2D list/array storing the tiledata for that chunk

[steady moat]

Yeah, and you want the least amount of tilemap with the least amount of useless tiles.

It is a multiconstraint problem that varies on the type of game you are doing and the actual cost of having useless tile vs having more tilemaps

[ashen yoke]

what does iteration imply

[green radish]

accessing the type of each tile to see what, if anything, should be done with it

[steady moat]

Dont you want to have the tile to actual make that decision instead of iterating on every tiles to ask them ?

[green radish]

tiles in a tilemap cant store unique data though

[shell scarab]

Perhaps have each chunk saved as a hashset?

[steady moat]

What do you mean, you definitly can instantiate a gameobject or C# object that represent each tile.

[green radish]

arent tilemaps storing gameobjects more computationally expensive on account of the gameobjects running individual code?

[steady moat]

Instead of operating on the tilemap, use it only as a renderer

[steady moat]

Yes and no, if most of your tile does nothing, then you lose less time than iterating on all tiles and only updating a few.

[shell scarab]

Why do you need to loop them anyway? I read through everything, maybe i missed something

[steady moat]

accessing the type of each tile to see what, if anything, should be done with it

[green radish]

for instance a sand tile shouldnt hover midair, it should start falling

so when checking a sand tile it should then check surrounding tiles to see if they are air, if so, spawn a fallingsand gameobject

[steady moat]

Yeah, and it makes more sense for the sand tile to do that than somebody else.

[green radish]

I plan to have upwards of roughly 6400 tiles on screen

[steady moat]

Personally, I think you are way better off using a C# representation of your game and only using the tilemap as renderer and initializer.

[shell scarab]

if you want to do that then maybe store it as a hashset and iterate through that as a 2D array and that would probably be quickest. You dont need to constantly loop, you can just signal whenever something happens to update that chunk.

[green radish]

the tilemap basically is doing that as it stands, like I said I plan to store the tiles data on the tilemap gameobject inside of a list/array

[shell scarab]

like each chunk would just simply store the min x/y and max x/y, and a hashset for the state of all the tiles. Then you would just update the tilemap visually

[steady moat]

Yeah, then, do not iterate the tiles, but the array.

(And only those that needs to be updated)

[green radish]

so only reference the tile when it comes to creation or deletion

[ashen yoke]

example usecase?

im sorry im half afk

reading

[green radish]

sand tile

[shell scarab]

@ashen yoke

[ashen yoke]

that does not imply full iteration

to become mid air the tile state has to change

a change in state is an event

[green radish]

or it started midair for some reason

[ashen yoke]

still, initialization

one time event

[shell scarab]

if you want it to constantly be updating your best bet imo is to multithread it, otherwise you should use events

[green radish]

if a sand tile has adjacent tiles it would just be skipped, same applies to the logic of any dynamic tile

[shell scarab]

Usually sandbox games to my knowledge use different threads in some capacity to update the world

[steady moat]

It is Unity, you going to be highly limited.

Also, this can be done further down the line if needed.

[shell scarab]

I disagree

[ashen yoke]

80*80?

[green radish]

Unity can multithread but when you do that the syntax of practically everything changes and you are forced to use the DOTS system to some level

[ashen yoke]

what format is the game in?

top down 2d rimworld like?

[steady moat]

You cannot do any call to any Unity API. (except a few)

[shell scarab]

Then don’t call unity API

[steady moat]

Unfortunatly, when you are doing a Unity game, you kinda need to call Unity function.

[green radish]

it's side view, like Terraria

[ashen yoke]

pixel art?

[shell scarab]

constantly check if the chunk needs to be updated. If it does, notify the main thread and it would update it. That way you offload the checking loop to a different thread and the main loop can focus on rendering and other game logic.

[ashen yoke]

hard alpha?

[green radish]

yes

[ashen yoke]

then you can use quad per chunk

rather per layer of the chunk

[shell scarab]

Doesn’t require and unity API calls to do this @steady moat

[ashen yoke]

draw tiles on the shader

one atlas per layer

256 tiles per atlas

to control you update pixel in the control tex

[steady moat]

Sure. I'm not saying it is impossible, I'm saying that you have a lot of restriction which means that your gain are limited.

[ashen yoke]

this will provide the best control/performance

for changes in the chunk you dont need to iterate everything, you need to collect modified tiles, and the batch process them

one modified tile = 9 tiles added to processing queue

if tile was added, ignore it, very fast

[shell scarab]

Simply not true. Not constantly looping through active chunks would be a significant help. Additionally it could control what chunks are active based on the player position if the player constantly copies its position to a readonly public value.

[ashen yoke]

whole thing screams Job system

[shell scarab]

I only dont use job system bc it wont let you use managed objects

and i like my queues and stacks

there is no NativeStack either.

[ashen yoke]

yeah it may not be necessary at all

terraria doesnt use jobs, works just fine

[spring creek]

Pretty sure Tertle's repo (bovine labs or whatever) has that, you can ask them in the dots channel if you want

[green radish]

the reason using the DOTS system is a problem for me is because last time I tried to use it I ran into the issue that it's an unfinished feature, and thus not fully functional

cant do everything gameobjects do

[shell scarab]

I could make my own implementation tbh i just dont think the job system would give me much more performance over my current system, which I use for pathfinding.

[shell scarab]

Don’t use DOTS (which is “released”), use jobs

[quartz folio]

That's by design

[shell scarab]

DOTS is a whole set of packages

[quartz folio]

Jobs, collections, and burst all function as they are designed, with limitations to get maximum speed

[shell scarab]

also dots is just… complicated (imo) for how you’re suppose to code things

using only the job system on the other hand, much more doable. And you can burst it too since it already wont let you use managed objects.

[quartz folio]

the job system is a part of DOTS. Do you mean Entities/ECS when you say complicated coding?

[shell scarab]

Yes

i feel like DOTS refers to all the dots packages, not only specific parts

[quartz folio]

Either way, you can multithread however you want, most of Unity's API can't be used in it, Jobs+Native Collections+Burst is really really fast if you're up for getting your data prepared correctly

Yes, it's Jobs/Burst/Collections/Entities/Entities packages in one big pile

[shell scarab]

Yea

i mean burst can get a bit complicated to program for me since I’m not used to or experienced with pointers, but ecs is just weird to me bc it’s data oriented not object oriented, with a separation of systems components and entities. At least in. Jobs/burst i can still pretend there’s objects.

[quartz folio]

You don't generally need to do anything with Burst apart from putting the [BurstCompile] attribute on a job that doesn't use anything managed

Anything pointers is just additional and irrelevant to getting most things done

[shell scarab]

There’s some more stuff that’s needed, for example you must use native arrays or references to read stuff from a job, wont let you just read a float from the job.

[quartz folio]

Yes, and you don't have to deal with pointers directly, you just allocate a native collection type, pass it in, write to it in the job, read from it when it's done, and dispose of it.

[shell scarab]

How? It always wants you to use a native array/reference or a pointer to pass things around or for primitives pass by ref. I wouldnt say irrelevant

[shell scarab]

Ah yes, but it’s still a pointer under the hood and it helps to think of it as one, at least for me.

[quartz folio]

I don't; it's just a struct with a reference to the backing array in it. Sure it uses pointers but you don't have to even know that