💻┃code-beginner

[slender nymph]

there are beginner c# courses pinned in this channel. and since this is a unity server any answers you get here will likely be unity and c# focused

[mortal obsidian]

Yeah but any personal recommendations?

[rich adder]

imagine wanting to be gamedev but then throw yourself in javascript

[slender nymph]

if you want general game development advice for different engines/frameworks/languages then ask in a general game dev server

[slender nymph]

imagine wanting to learn javascript at all 🤢

[mortal obsidian]

So people can use it more viably

[slender nymph]

this reasoning makes no sense

[rich adder]

wtf

[mortal obsidian]

Bro agar.io is playable on the web too😭

[rich adder]

seriously though why use JS

[naive pawn]

funny that that's allowed

[rich adder]

what does that mean?

[slender nymph]

okay, many games are playable on the web. including many unity games

[rich adder]

javascript performs like shit

[mortal obsidian]

U can make unity games on the web?

[rich adder]

Unity has Webgl format

yes

[naive pawn]

the web is pretty flexible. a lot of things can be made to run on the web

[mortal obsidian]

Oh good to know

[slender nymph]

did you do any amount of research before asking your question?

[mortal obsidian]

U don't need js tho right?

[rich adder]

I used three.js for a quick portfolio site and wanted to shoot my hands off

[mortal obsidian]

Uhm? That's why im asking here

[eternal needle]

Used it for a class in uni, same. That stupid teapot will haunt me

[rich adder]

it uses WebAssembly to embed your WebGL build you do not need any javascript

[mortal obsidian]

Alr alr

[rich adder]

yeah its pretty solid for a javascript engine goes

[mortal obsidian]

For android? Does it use kotlin?

[slender nymph]

unity uses c#

[rich adder]

nope

[summer stump]

#📖┃code-of-conduct
You are required to do research before asking here

[rich adder]

it all gets compiled to hardware code anyway

[mortal obsidian]

My question was different

[summer stump]

You can research in between questions
There are many unity games on the web

[rich adder]

You can use C# and Unity and Export to any platform (consoles too but you need special NDAs and approvals)

[mortal obsidian]

I asked for a recommendation based on experiences, since you guys know how to use unity

[rich adder]

check pins in this channel

lots of info there

[mortal obsidian]

Are they good tho?

[slender nymph]

why not find out for yourself

[rich adder]

You're not going to learn overnight of course, take a week to so play around and if its your thing then go for it.

[mortal obsidian]

Tbh I wanted to hurry, didn't wanna waste my time with wrong sources, that's why im asking ppl, regarding that, did any of u use the sources in question?

[mortal obsidian]

That's fine

[slender nymph]

I wanted to hurry
yeah good luck with that

[rich adder]

^ very true . this is unrealistic

[mortal obsidian]

I meant, I want to start right away with the right source

[slender nymph]

if you can't even be bothered to put in any effort to research for yourself how do you expect to be able to "hurry" to learn an entire game engine

[naive pawn]

did you not think to try official sources

[mortal obsidian]

Like, for instance, with java I started with a book and had good results, I followed recommendations too

[rich adder]

if you know java then c# will be easy

[mortal obsidian]

Researching can be misleading

[rich adder]

its essentially Microsoft Java.

[mortal obsidian]

Yeah

But is there an official unity guide everyone uses,??

[slender nymph]

oh in that case why bother learning anything at all? learning requires researching ideas, but if research is misleading then learning is useless!

[rich adder]

the docs and the learn site ofc

[slender nymph]

if only you'd bothered looking at the pinned messages as was suggested multiple times now

[mortal obsidian]

Alr, But did u guys learn from there???

[rich adder]

this was my first Unity course
https://learn.unity.com/project/beginner-gameplay-scripting

it mixes well Unity concepts into C#

[slender nymph]

i'm done engaging with this. this back and forth is useless since this person clearly wants to be spoon fed the information rather than putting in any amount of effort at thinking for themselves

[summer stump]

Why would they be pinned if they were not good?

[mortal obsidian]

Cool, thks, my focus was mostly a 2d game, so I suppose it takes less time

[naive pawn]

we can mislead too

[mortal obsidian]

Bro just stop being hostile, im asking ppl, sources are good but I wanted to get info first

[naive pawn]

do you trust 6 random strangers or an officially endorsed link on unity.com

[naive pawn]

at this point you're just trying to prove a point instead of actually going to learn

[rich adder]

only if they're from craigslist

[naive pawn]

we aren't on craigslist, so we aren't trustworthy, end of discussion 👍

[mortal obsidian]

👌👌

[rich adder]

thought this was a field for those passionate in R&D

[summer stump]

Again.. just so you are aware, you are required to research first
#📖┃code-of-conduct

No hostility intended. That is just the rule here, for future reference.

Wish you the best

[slender nymph]

i only use organically sourced courses from the stinkiest of brainrot farms. anything else is too complicated for my tiny brain to handle and is therefore misleading and worthless. if the course doesn't spoon feed me the information and give me step by step instructions without explaining the actual purpose of doing things a specific way then why even bother making it in the first place

[late burrow]

ok issue was i needed to provide base with parameters from parent class

but why i even need provide them if they not being used?

[mortal obsidian]

I did research tho, just wasn't sure what to get

[slender nymph]

you still haven't provided any proper context for what you are actually doing so nobody can really answer that

[summer stump]

I feel like you have ignored every single response you got today.
Can you please share code as requested?

[mortal obsidian]

I do hope the official docs are good, cuz for instance, I tried roblox studio docs and.. they were kinda disappointing

[late burrow]

whats the purpose of base

[slender nymph]

that calls the base class's constructor

[rich adder]

thats video game... this is a GAME ENGINE

[late burrow]

but i dont want create first class i want create second class

[summer stump]

What is the purpose of doing this?
This is likely not what you want at ALL

[late burrow]

multiple of them for same parent

[eternal needle]

You made a constructor with it being used. Of course you need to provide it then

[slender nymph]

but the second inherits from the first

[mortal obsidian]

Isn't it kinda similar when developing stuff? But ok, lets see those docs

[summer stump]

I would say no

[late burrow]

but second not creates first one so why it needs parameters for first one

[slender nymph]

so when you create an instance of the second it is an instance of the first. and the first one can only be constructed using that parameterized constructor because that is the only constructor that exists on that base class

[slender nymph]

yes it does because it is the first class

[rich adder]

no because not many business rely on a game like robolox studio

[mortal obsidian]

XD I mean its roblox

[late burrow]

strange i debug logged and i havent seen duplicates

anyway can i have many of second classes all pointing to first class

[rich adder]

exactly its a small market and its mostly kiddies.. A game engine needs to be suitable for big studios and keep their shit on par

but this is going on too long, just try the material and make your own decision as with everything you should do in life. Goodluck friendo

[slender nymph]

there are no "duplicates". an instance of test2 is an instance of test1 because it inherits from it. just like an instance of any of your components is also an instance of a MonoBehaviour. and a MonoBehaviour is an instance of a Behaviour

[slender nymph]

they aren't "pointing" to the first class, they are inheriting from the first class

[late burrow]

so i cannot have array of second class inside first class

[slender nymph]

why would you want that

[naive pawn]

if i have a room, with one person, and that room also has one adult, how many people are in that room

[late burrow]

so i can store array of arrays in more sane way

[slender nymph]

that does not answer the question

[naive pawn]

if you can't make the link between your classes and this example, you have not understood OOP yet, and you should go learn that first before trying to utilize it

[late burrow]

secondary class can hold variables and i can hold that class in array

[naive pawn]

yeah that's unrelated to inheritance

[slender nymph]

why does that secondary class need to inherit from the first?

[eternal needle]

This went from an XY problem to an WXYZ problem

[slender nymph]

just an average interaction with anuked tbh

[late burrow]

because it will generate variables using ones from first class

[slender nymph]

that does not answer why it needs to inherit from it

[stiff rock]

hey, never had this happen, but when i loaded my project neither the game or scene was showing up with anything, how do i fix? i spent 10 years on this game !

[naive pawn]

@late burrow read this example

[naive pawn]

no errors or messages? is the editor frozen?

[slender nymph]

you've spent 10 years on a game and don't know how to open your scene?

[stiff rock]

nope, nothing

[eternal needle]

You should 1000000% do more basics of c# outside of unity first. Basically all the terms you're using dont make sense and this isnt a proper way to learn. You're basically listing random words until someone explains what they think you mean

[naive pawn]

is the project in the editor

[stiff rock]

no it is open, the scene screen is showing absolutly nothing though

[slender nymph]

screenshot the entire editor with the hierarchy visible

[eternal needle]

Sounds like a corrupt scene file

[stiff rock]

see?

[summer stump]

Any changes showing in the version control you are certainly using?

[eternal needle]

Ah modded game

[stiff rock]

nope

[eternal needle]

We dont help with modding or decompiling

[summer stump]

Deleted a light?

[slender nymph]

you've got lighting in the scene view enabled and what appears to be pretty much no lighting

[summer stump]

Oh, modded

[stiff rock]

not modded, i had did that because i had accidently forgot my old acc

[rich adder]

monkee game gonna be the new VRChat

[slender nymph]

it's also very clearly not showing "nothing" considering we can see the objects in the hierarchy and even the outline of the object selected

toggle this off and show what you see

[stiff rock]

yes i know but why does it have 0 lighting, not modded or anything its my game, just forgot my old acc, and had to undo it

nothing

[eternal needle]

Accounts have nothing to do with it.

[stiff rock]

still nothing

[slender nymph]

i said show

[mortal obsidian]

Thks, speaking of which, I just found (for beginners) C# coding stuff, where can I find the beginners stuff for unity(in the pins)?

[stiff rock]

see

it was working perfectly yesterday lol

[rich adder]

@tender stag as long as script on the same object as the PlayerInput asset it works without references.
So I just have 1 class that handles Inputs by making a public Get bool for example. Basically same as what you got
my PlayerMovement just cares about V3 inside moving, it doesnt care where inputs come from (bot, player etc.)

[north kiln]

#💻┃unity-talk has the non-coding resources

[tender stag]

can u show me an example

im pretty sure i know what u mean tho

[mortal obsidian]

Alr thks

[stiff rock]

u guys here?

[rich adder]

yeah let me grab it rq

I mainly stole from the Unity example assets anyway, since thats how i first learned the input system lol

[slender nymph]

at this point you should move your question to an appropriate channel. it is not coding related and has something to do with your setup most likely 🤷‍♂️

[stiff rock]

send the channel

[slender nymph]

you can use id:browse to find a relevant channel

[naive pawn]

real quick, @stiff rock have you tried restarting

[stiff rock]

yes, ive also uninstalled my stuff and reinstalled it

[stiff rock]

there is no help channel

[naive pawn]

almost all of the channels are help channels

[slender nymph]

reading must be hard, huh

[summer stump]

There is a lighting channel..
Also #💻┃unity-talk

[slender nymph]

they disabled scene lighting so it's probably not lighting

[summer stump]

Ah, missed that part

[lethal bolt]

I know what the problem is but i dont know how to fix it..

[polar acorn]

What does the error say

[lethal bolt]

My console was lagging so it showed an old error. I found out i didnt make an float..

[naive pawn]

no that's not the issue

read the error

look where you put the declarations for scorepoint and score

[rich adder]

I think thats what they meant by saying "i didnt make an float"

one can only hope they understood. Also VSCode really colors local vars the same as Properites and fields??

[tender stag]

let me know man

just @ me

[rich adder]

gotcha just waiting on the project to open for some reason unity hangs sometimes on 2022

[tender stag]

np

im busy anyway

trying to figure out client side prediction movement

with all that replication and reconciliation data shit

[rich adder]

no prob. its very basic anyway

you prob already know what I'm doing in it

[naive pawn]

yeah

[rich adder]

oh yeah thats gross

I just noticed it on my mac

oh yeah thought it was my theme..
at least my props are diff color

[naive pawn]

the default theme doesn't have a ton of colors
keyword 1 (for, if, else)
keyword 2 (class, readonly, int, get, public, new)
var
const
type
func
string literal
number literal

[rich adder]

yeah and changing it is annoying because you have to mess with json files..bummer.

[naive pawn]

hey since unity uses yaml for its scene/meta/asset/prefab files can you replace that with json

[balmy rivet]

how would i stop my player from getting stuck like this?

[rich adder]

not really a code question

or maybe it is.. we dont know..

[balmy rivet]

its running, but it dosent move anywhere cus there's like a small small ledge between the tiles

[rich adder]

you probably need the tilemap to have the collider thing

compound? composite ?

[balmy rivet]

compound?

[naive pawn]

no that's not the right word

composite yeah

[rich adder]

forgot what its called

[naive pawn]

same lmao

[ancient holly]

yeah use composite colliders

[balmy rivet]

composite?

[rich adder]

https://docs.unity3d.com/Manual/class-CompositeCollider2D.html

[balmy rivet]

on the tilemap?

[ancient holly]

yeah

tilemap has many square colliders

[naive pawn]

have your tilemap collider be a composite and add a composite collider

[ancient holly]

which causes issues

that composite thing

turns it into

polygons

[rich adder]

make sure you put Used By Composite on the collider
and make the rigidbody it puts as static

[ancient holly]

which fixes the issue

you might need to set it from outlines -> polygons

for it to work

[rich adder]

make sure this is checked

[balmy rivet]

oh thanks so much!!

but how would i fix edges like this?

or jsut make the player walk over them

[rich adder]

that I'm not sure as i don't do 2D often. Try asking in #🖼️┃2d-tools or #💻┃unity-talk perhaps

[balmy rivet]

ok thank you!

[rich adder]

you might need to fix the physics outline on sprite, but I'm not positive 🙂

[balmy rivet]

yea ok thanks!

[naive pawn]

this is correct @balmy rivet

[whole parcel]

hey guys! im still trying to get the nodes from my tilemap into code. this is the method i'm trying, but it's giving me false data. anyone know why could that be?

    public bool[,] GenerateMap()
    {
        bool[,] map = new bool[tilemap.size.x, tilemap.size.y];

        for (int x = 0; x < tilemap.size.x; x++)
        {
            for (int y = 0; y < tilemap.size.y; y++)
            {
                Vector3Int tilePosition = new Vector3Int(x, y, 0);
                TileBase tile = tilemap.GetTile(tilePosition);
                map[x, y] = (tile == walkable_tile);
            }
        }

        return map;
    }

[balmy rivet]

yea thank you, worked

[rich adder]

https://gdl.space/nufepihati.cs
Dont mind the serializedfields were there to see them in the inspector without debug mode on

[whole parcel]

this is the grid

[naive pawn]

what do you mean by "false data"?

false values where there shouldn't be?

[whole parcel]

yea

[naive pawn]

make sure you're setting walkable_tile

[whole parcel]

i did

[naive pawn]

use Debug.Log to see if tile == walkable_tile is passing, or if it's not being reached for some reason

[whole parcel]

i did try that

it only passes for like five tiles

[tender stag]

yeah

[whole parcel]

but ofc there are a lot more

[naive pawn]

is walkable_tile just an empty tile

[whole parcel]

kinda

it's comletely black tile

[naive pawn]

(btw, sidenote, convention in c# is to use camelCase rather than snake_case for fields. if you use camelCase, unity will automatically split the words for you)

[naive pawn]

what about tiles that have dots

[whole parcel]

those are pellets

and are in a seperate tilemap

[naive pawn]

yeah, but they arent blank tiles

[naive pawn]

ah, ok.

[whole parcel]

the base are the walls

[languid spire]

you are comparing Tile References that will never be true

[whole parcel]

how come?

they are sometimes true tho apparently

[naive pawn]

no, the tilemap will give the same references

[naive pawn]

are you differentiating between an empty space in the tilemap vs the empty tile? try Debug.Log and see if there's more nulls than expected

[whole parcel]

more nulls than expected?

[naive pawn]

well, how many nulls are you expecting

[whole parcel]

it didnt show any

huh

[naive pawn]

well, that's a good sign

are there as many Wall_00 as you're expecting?

[whole parcel]

nope

shouldn't these be nulls tho

[rocky canyon]

love those colors

[naive pawn]

well, do you have a tile for that?

[whole parcel]

no

empty spaces

[naive pawn]

also, are you passing the right Tilemap?

[whole parcel]

yea

im passing in the nodes tilemap

[naive pawn]

and that's the one with walls?

[whole parcel]

the black tiles

[robust turret]

quick question...

should I worry about security or effectiveness of my game from the start? If I am just messing around...

[naive pawn]

what do you mean by effectiveness?

[cosmic dagger]

effectiveness of game?

[robust turret]

It seems like I do find ineffecitve but workable solutions

[polar acorn]

What do you mean by "Security" or "effectiveness" for a game?

[naive pawn]

and you only have Wall_00 that's the black space?

[rich adder]

https://marketplace.visualstudio.com/items?itemName=johnpapa.winteriscoming
(Dark Black)

[robust turret]

like setting everything public for my convenience

[polar acorn]

1. Make it run
2. Make it right
3. Make it fast

in that order

[whole parcel]

yessir

[polar acorn]

That's not a "security" thing, that's an organization thing

So you don't accidentally change something where you shouldn't

[robust turret]

if it runs, then its right... no?

[naive pawn]

have you tried just logging out all the tiles yet?

[polar acorn]

no

[naive pawn]

make it do what you want it to do

[polar acorn]

but making it run is the first step

[robust turret]

ah okey

[cosmic dagger]

everything is private by default. that's more about encapsulation . . .

[robust turret]

at what point I might start considering the limitations of unity?

[polar acorn]

when you hit them

[whole parcel]

okay wait

i get a bunch of Nulls

[rocky canyon]

^ lol maybe a few weeks before.. if u got that hindsight DLC

[cosmic dagger]

limitations? just make the game. when, or if, you hit them, worry about it . . .

[whole parcel]

and a few wall_00's

[robust turret]

So I should just mess around. without worrying about writing the most optimized code?

[naive pawn]

@robust turret quick reality check, you're in analysis paralysis right now

[rich adder]

correct.

[naive pawn]

is that what you're expecting?

[robust turret]

There is too much to start from. and hard to grasp the startin point

[whole parcel]

no

[rocky canyon]

just start..

[whole parcel]

i hv tons of wall_00's

[rocky canyon]

thats part of the rollercoaster

[rich adder]

Just DO IT ™️

[naive pawn]

check your tilemaps

[naive pawn]

you are at the starting point. now go

[robust turret]

aight

[polar acorn]

Depends on what you mean by "Optimization". Things like "Iterate your for loop backwards so you can break a few elements early and save 0.0004ms" is a bit excessive. Things like "Don't do GameObject.Find in Update on every object" should definitely be considered

[cosmic dagger]

not really. make a to-do list of what you need for your game. start and cross them off one-by-one . . .

[robust turret]

btw any good 2d free assets suggestions?

[naive pawn]

i don't know what this is, you do

[polar acorn]

But nothing runs slower than code that doesn't exist

[rich adder]

itch.io. unity asset store

[whole parcel]

those are all wall_00's

[polar acorn]

so make something go first

[naive pawn]

try disabling your other tilemaps and look at them one at a time

[whole parcel]

what will that do tho

[rocky canyon]

https://github.com/SpawnCampGames/Resources/blob/main/GameAssets/readme.md

[naive pawn]

and which tilemap is that in

[whole parcel]

nodes

[rocky canyon]

itch.io has some bad ass tile maps

only if i had the will to use 2D

[robust turret]

should I worry about any malware when downloading assets?

[naive pawn]

make sure the reference is correct? not sure at this point

[rocky canyon]

just dont open exe's

[robust turret]

okay thanks

[rocky canyon]

assets are gonna be .blend, .fbx, .obj, .png, .mp3 etc

[naive pawn]

on itch.io? just make sure they're popular to a degree

[rocky canyon]

ive never come across malware in unity assets

and i been collecting for 3 years

[robust turret]

okay thanks ^^

to y'all

[rocky canyon]

find a good art pack

and let it inspire u

https://streamable.com/xur7u1 i've peaked

editor code + console commands + reflection stuff

ive maxed out my brain.. it hurts now lol

[rich adder]

ayee

[rocky canyon]

BUT i have a console tied into anything i chose to make a singleton from

it just works

now time to crunch some polish.. get my motivation back

[rich adder]

oh I thought the "Trace" command would show you debug rays or something

[rocky canyon]

it shows a stack trace following the function u pass into it

[rich adder]

neat!

[rocky canyon]

time does a similar thing.. where u pass in a function and it logs the time it takes

soo in theory i created all my back-end systems already.. pickups, actions, health, shield, attack damage, etc

i can call all of it via the console..

now the hard part is putting it all together

[rich adder]

always is

[rocky canyon]

i have 1 issue tho.. is editor hotkeys.

when i try to search Player.. the Shift + P breaks out and pops up the Project Settings

[rich adder]

wdym ?

you can disable those

[rocky canyon]

(i had that off the side of the screen) thats why i have to reclick on the console after i type P

[rocky canyon]

im sure i can

ohhh theres a button?!

[rich adder]

indeed!

[rocky canyon]

🙏 Unity

[remote osprey]

Is this way of comparing two instances ok?

        if (Instance == null)
        {
            Instance = this;
        }
        else if ( Instance != this)
        {
            Destroy(this);
        }

Or should i make a isEquals() method?

[rocky canyon]

then thats a NON-problem

and im going to ignore it lmao

[rich adder]

me crouching and move backwards, unity telling I cant save in playmode :

[naive pawn]

what for?

[rocky canyon]

it shouldnt happen in builds anyway

[rocky canyon]

🤣 one of the first bugs i encountered too

[remote osprey]

I just wonder if the (Instance != this) is valid for Unity to compare two different objects of the same type

[rich adder]

that button discovery was literally a godsent a i had a video on it but it didn't post a short so I just said fuckkkit

[naive pawn]

why wouldn't it be

[rich adder]

we dont even have the #archived-unitytips anymore

[rocky canyon]

best code i've ever used

using UnityEngine;
public abstract class Singleton<T> : MonoBehaviour
where T : Singleton<T>
{
    public static T Instance { get; private set; }

    void Awake()
    {
        if(Instance != null)
        {
            Destroy(gameObject);
            return;
        }
        DontDestroyOnLoad(gameObject);
        Instance = (T)this;
        DoAwake();
    }

    protected virtual void DoAwake() { }
}```

[rich adder]

Generics 💪

[rocky canyon]

dude, i love it..

now if i could learn to do it on my own

[rich adder]

I see a lot of save systems without it and I cringe

[remote osprey]

I don't know, maybe Unity doesn't understand it this way, maybe theres another IsEqual() method I should use

I'm implementing a singleton, btw

[summer stump]

Yeah, that looks fine. Assuming for a singleton? That is pretty standard

[remote osprey]

OK, cool

Thanks!

[summer stump]

https://unity.huh.how/references
Check out singletons here for how vertx would do it

[rocky canyon]

whats wrong with this?

[rich adder]

imo thats a good starting point , do it for a save system.. Instead of making save method only Save(SaveData)
Make the method Save<T>(T data)

[rocky canyon]

lol, funny u should say this.. thats where i found my generic singleton code

[naive pawn]

this for a singleton though? this would be cycling through objects rather than keeping a single object for the duration of the runtime

[rocky canyon]

my save system is held together with ductape

[summer stump]

How so?

[rocky canyon]

i may try this in the future once i get more the overall project stable

[naive pawn]

oh wait im dumb

[rich adder]

big fan of flex tape myself

[rocky canyon]

zipties are my fav

actually turns out my save system is in a project all on its own.. and the rest of my stuff is in another

this oughta be fun

[remote osprey]

Yeah, i'm gonna use Aethenosity's suggestion

probably safer

[rocky canyon]

use that Generic implementation

you wont regret it

[naive pawn]

nah i read it wrong yours is fine

[rocky canyon]

public class TurkeyTrampoline : Singleton<TurkeyTrampoline>
{
    // can't beat it
}```

and u still have ur Monobehaviour acess

[summer stump]

Dang, too much to hope there was a trampoline react...

[lost hamlet]

I should do that with mine, then make it a lib

[rocky canyon]

fresh idea 💡

[rocky canyon]

i find it easier to work on bigger systems in isolation

[rich adder]

lasts night long hour session fever/dream , though not as exciting as your project lol

[lost hamlet]

I typically use folders for that, unless it's big enough and i think that i might reuse it

[cosmic dagger]

that's how i started creating packages for my stuff . . .

[lost hamlet]

Spent my whole day yesterday making a multiplayer lib

[swift crag]

this is the lockpicking lawyer

[smashes all of my tools into pieces]

[lost hamlet]

And it somehow got downloaded on nuget

76 times

I don't even know if it scales lol

I know it works fine tho, connected 4 clients together on a server

[rocky canyon]

nah mines all back-end garbage.. theres no substance yet this is cool

[rich adder]

the backend is the meat and potatoes. I was just trying to find this mechanic and all the videos kinda sucked they all did some wonky shit, I kinda enjoyed doing my own way of it turned okay

[rocky canyon]

and 1 hour.. thats quickness

[rich adder]

Oh def not 1 hour lol it was a long "coding hour"

my time is 1 min of coding time is like 1 hour in real life xD

[lost hamlet]

The fact that i can feel the lag on lan is pretty weird

[rich adder]

is this netcode?

[lost hamlet]

Nope, my own lib

it uses LiteNetLib under the hood

[astral falcon]

did you log the latency at some point?

[lost hamlet]

i made a test app and i got around 7ms from client to server on both LAN (my address) and localhost

it was a bit worse from client to client

like 12

[robust turret]

another quick question...
Can the Game Objects 2,3,4 inside the Game Object 1 branch be recognized by Game Object 1's script?
Or I should specify it

[rich adder]

is this server auth ?

[lost hamlet]

That's probably partly because of event polling

[swift crag]

"branch"?

[lost hamlet]

Nope, but it can be (kinda)

[swift crag]

are you talking about the hierarchy, perhaps?

[rich adder]

you can find it via code but you better off making a reference

[rich adder]

those are Transforms children

[swift crag]

in this case, Bird is an object with two children: DownWing and UpWing

You can iterate over all children of a Transform:

[robust turret]

so should I reference them?

[lost hamlet]

I have a Func<NetPeer, Packet, Packet?> that i can use to do stuff with packets before they get sent back to clients

[iron wing]

okay basically im having a lot more problems than i should with this. im trying to use unity's new input system. how can i simply detect when a button is pressed from my InputActionReference?

[swift crag]

foreach (Transform child in transform)
{
  // ...
}

[robust turret]

or Bird script knows it already

[rich adder]

if they are child of same script is prob better to do so

[swift crag]

You can also just directly reference the children.

[SerializeField] Transform downWing;

then drag "DownWing" into the Down Wing field in the inspector

[rich adder]

bird script doesn't know anything , you have to tell it things lol

"find this here, put it here do this" yadayada

[robust turret]

I should also learn the terminology🥲

[slender bridge]

#🖱️┃input-system

[rich adder]

scripts are just text files of instructions

[rocky canyon]

true story

; is end of a single line of command

domagic();

[iron wing]

thank you raah

[rich adder]

or a statement

[slender bridge]

you're welcome raah

[robust turret]

okay. I was just wondering if I can find better solutions

[rocky canyon]

whats this for?

[robust turret]

thanks ^^

[rocky canyon]

cleanest way to do it imo.. I've also made a few packages.. and just to avoid any kind of conflicts i use Fresh, empty, stripped down unity projects

[rich adder]

not sure yet I needed it for my own project but now, I'm thinking to make an asset

was inspired by playing dying light again recently and they had this mechanic

[rocky canyon]

yea, those are the best kinds.. means u put attention to detail (it being something u were gonna use)

so when u share it, its pretty solid to begin with

[rich adder]

yeah i was very picky on going for the almost same feel and look of DL

[rocky canyon]

i need a lockpick mechanic in my game too.. but its dystopian future stuff soo im still brainstorming for a mini game

[rich adder]

I just need to find a good 3D model of a lock but its been difficult (for free and cc)

[rocky canyon]

what type of lock? jsut a keyhole one?

[rich adder]

yea

have you seen the dying light one before

or even fallout

[rocky canyon]

i seeen the first episode of fallout

b/c of the hype but i havent gotten around to seeing dying light yet

[rich adder]

oh no those aren't shows

i meant the game

[rocky canyon]

ohh, ofc ive played fallout lol

skyrim had a picking mechanic too

i enjoyed that one

[rich adder]

yeah its basically that

since bathesda just copies and pastes

changes the skins

[rocky canyon]

bethseda!

don't slur bethseda's name 😅 whats wrong with u

most glitch-free games ever made

[rich adder]

last good game was oblivion

and Fallout nv

[rocky canyon]

i have sooo many hours in that game is pathetic

i think i did 3 full playthroughs when i was younger

[rocky canyon]

how is the code involved in this?

is it just RNG stuff?

[rich adder]

can't speak for the original but thats what I'm doing

it does seem it can be rng

[rocky canyon]

with a skill modifier?

[rich adder]

i use a curve

[rocky canyon]

interesting

[rich adder]

the more diffuclt the lock, the less give the turn has

and easly breaks your pick

[rocky canyon]

you wanna friend me? i want to ask u some other questions but the channel isn't right for it lol, asset related*

[rich adder]

the the great revealo!

[rich adder]

sure

[rocky canyon]

this is bad ass bro

[rich adder]

you can see the green is the range, the harder the difficulty of lock the less of a range

[rocky canyon]

thats basically all minigames summed up in a gif

[rich adder]

I was thinking it was angles at first
(all the videos i seen were doing some shit with angles)

but my brain cant brain rad too well

[robust turret]

mp3 is supported by unity right?

[lost hamlet]

yes

[robust turret]

ok

[lost hamlet]

https://docs.unity3d.com/Manual/AudioFiles.html

[rocky canyon]

mp3 and wavs are ur two go-tos most likely

[polar acorn]

* ogg vorbis has entered the chat *

[robust turret]

my bad wrong format

m4a seems to not work

[rich adder]

the OG

[cosmic dagger]

oh yeah, i start a new project and create a folder for editor and runtime. nothing else is added . . .

[rocky canyon]

do you utilize project templates?

like make custom ones? im thinking of making a basic scene w/ all ur basic stuff included.. and use that as my starter projects

got to stress test it first and find any instabilites

[cosmic dagger]

i made one for packages; that's about it. they were empty except for the necessary folder structure . . .

[robust turret]

best way to edit mp3 sounds?

Audacity?

[cosmic dagger]

i do have script templates for MonoBehaviour, custom class, struct, interface, etc. when i create and name a script, all the boilerplate code/setup is there . . .

[robust turret]

U want to create templates for yourself? To not start from scratch every time?

[rocky canyon]

basically what im doing

stuff like DoTween, TMP, Cinemachine, 2D package all that stuff i have to repeated add

[robust turret]

I believe there are ppl who share their templates for free

[rocky canyon]

soo i thought why not add all the stuff i need.. make a few simple things that everyone uses.. (include a Character Controller) and tada got me a phresh prototype project each time

[robust turret]

tho idk where XD

[rocky canyon]

ahh nah, i dont want someone elses template. 😄 im just curious when people actually do it themselves

[robust turret]

as you want... there is a saying
a good artist creates a great artist steals

[rocky canyon]

lol.. not sure i agree with that.. but i wont judge

[robust turret]

there is a legit saying

its not smth I made up

[polar acorn]

To steal from one is plaigarism.
To steal from many is research.

[robust turret]

exactly

[naive pawn]

to steal from all is programming

[whole parcel]

@naive pawn

is there a good way to check

if my grid in code is accurate

[rich adder]

draw it

[whole parcel]

how?

[rich adder]

depends what kinda grid you got

[whole parcel]

rectangular

[rich adder]

i meant in the code..

[whole parcel]

oh

matrix

[rich adder]

You can draw them as a mesh probably

[whole parcel]

yea i hv no idea how to do that

[rich adder]

found this
it might help you
https://gist.github.com/mdomrach/a66602ee85ce45f8860c36b2ad31ea14

basically you can do mesh.SetIndices

or just use line renderer and call it a day

[whole parcel]

right

[spiral rain]

Can someone help me I am having a problem and so posted it on stack overflow https://stackoverflow.com/questions/78594391/weird-behavior-of-a-spline-unity-3d but no one is answering anyway here is what my problem is. I am using https://github.com/CMDRSpirit/RollercoasterDesigner this package is to make your own roller coaster. Sadly it is not very polished but I have one problem with it. When I set the StartSlope Variable it sets its own. Around 0.7 for y and 20 for z

I tried to get Chat GPT do help me fix it but that didn't work. I am at a loss I have no clue why this isn’t working. Please help.

[zealous hatch]

NullReferenceException: Object reference not set to an instance of an object EnemyPatrol.FindTarget () (at Assets/Scripts/Enemy/EnemyPatrol.cs:90) EnemyPatrol.Update () (at Assets/Scripts/Enemy/EnemyPatrol.cs:44)

the if statement is the line 90

private void FindTarget()
{
    float targetRange = 50f;
    //Change GetPosition probably need to create a function in playermovement names that + have a look into this instance stuff
    if (Vector2.Distance(transform.position, PlayerMovement.Instance.GetPosition()) < targetRange)
    {
        state = State.ChaseTarget;
    }

`

 public Vector2 GetPosition()
 {
     return gameObject.transform.position;
 }

Gets position of the player.

I dont know why im getting the error

[cosmic dagger]

check every reference variable on line 90 and make sure they're not null . . .

[timber tide]

something there is not like the other

[cosmic dagger]

only reference variables can be null. first, identify which variables are reference types. then check the value of each, one-by-one . . .

[zealous hatch]

all of them are giving normal numbers back

[iron wing]

I was initally going to use AddForce to make my Character Controller jump. Although, since it is not a RigidBody. There is no method for this. What can I do instead? I'm using SimpleMove, because I would rather not take the time to make my own gravity.

[cosmic dagger]

which variables did you check and where (in your code) did you do the null checks?

[rich adder]

well then its time to learn

also "custom gravity " is a simple v3 calculation, nothing insane about it.. the CharacterController Move method has an example

[timber tide]

gravity implementation is like two lines of code

[iron wing]

whaat

[zealous hatch]

I did transform.position inside FindTarget,
PlayerMovement.Instance inside FindTarget and the functoin
and targetRange inside the findtarget function

[iron wing]

okay hold on lemme check this out

[rich adder]

what don't you get? lol

[iron wing]

no no i just expected it to be weirdly difficult

[rich adder]

ohh nah that shits ez

[timber tide]

force accumulation is the hard part

[zealous hatch]

PlayerMovement.Instance.GetPosisiotn is the problem

[rich adder]

the only thing weird is the cc.Move should be called once, and the Example code calls it twice.. Just combine them into one call

[cosmic dagger]

targetRange is a float, which is a value type. it cannot be null. the same applies to GetPosition which returns a Vector2. check if PlayerMovement.Instance is null as that is a reference type . . .

[zealous hatch]

yeah just thought i would check targetRange just in rare case. Got it fixed tho

[summer stump]

Just to be clear, for the future, there is no rare case. That would be impossible. Value types cannot be null

[cosmic dagger]

a rare case is impossible. value types cannot be null. that's just a fact . . .

[zealous hatch]

what if some rare insane unity error happen

[robust turret]

quick help with particles needed pls
I have clouds and I want them to spawn from the rightside of the screen at different speeds and move till the end of the screen and disappear
but somehow they are not accepted as a material for particle system

[summer stump]

There is no error that would cause that

[zealous hatch]

what if my unity got corrupted and that just happen

[summer stump]

That is not what would happen. Not possible

[rich adder]

yes sprites are not materials

[robust turret]

oh rip

[summer stump]

I am rarely definitive like this, but it simply is impossible, in any situatiom
I have a bad habit of hedging my bets, but that is not necessary here

[robust turret]

what should I do then?

should I just write a random spawn code with different speeds?

[rich adder]

just make a new material that is a sprite shader and add you sprite inside?

or particle system shader, forgot which..prob latter..

also not a code question #✨┃vfx-and-particles

[robust turret]

no answer there -_-

[rich adder]

i mean it was only 10 mins..

[summer stump]

Yeah, it can take some patience sometimes

[rich adder]

the cycle of perceived dead channel continues

[robust turret]

or fingers crossed ask here where there is more activity

[summer stump]

#📖┃code-of-conduct #854851968446365696

[rich adder]

yeah how about don't be rude to others who need to ask about code get flooded by someone asking about vfx

also not everyone who knows code might know how particle system works well

[robust turret]

but I wasn't rude to anyone 0_0... there was only 1 code related conversation going on

[summer stump]

#763499475641172029

[prime ridge]

Thank you

[summer stump]

There is a server for it

[rich adder]

do yourself a favor and just learn the code lol

[robust turret]

ohhh I see... not allowed to post in multiple channels

my bad

[remote osprey]

Hello

[rich adder]

especially when its not fitting to the channel

[remote osprey]

I have a link to a discord VFX exclusive channel if you want

DM in case

[rich adder]

at minimum #💻┃unity-talk would've made more sense

[summer stump]

You will get muted if you share it here btw

[remote osprey]

I know

which iss why i'm suggeting the person in need to DM

[summer stump]

Nav just got hit by it haha

[rich adder]

oh yeah if you hit it more than once you're done lol

it gets autoremoved anyway

[summer stump]

Yeah, I typed it before you said that

Slow phone is slow

[rich adder]

I hit it twice and got muted..second time with no http in link

[remote osprey]

Sent the person in need to the VFX discord server in question

hope they find what they're looking for

[robust turret]

thats why fingers crossed. realising that anybody answering here will be simply of pure desire to help without a slightest responsibility to answer

[summer stump]

Those people will answer in the right channel. Just post it and wait a day
There is a good reason for the rules being that way

[rich adder]

Just putting you in the heads up, if the mod tells you don't say you didn't know lol

they certainly won't agree with that viewpoint of yours now,
its literally in the rules not to do it. but moving on..

[robust turret]

checked community conduct don'ts,,, nothing I have done wrong from there I believe
and in read-me... just spamming in different channels I suppose?

here is my logic...
somebody specialising in coding has higher chances of knowing a little bit of everything, while somebody specialising in other spheres (such as graphics, art, music etc.) can afford to go entirely into that sphere only

not acceptable?

[rocky canyon]

im artist turned developer. i post thru-out the channels.. but different topics each related to the channel

[rich adder]

its not me you have to make a case to

if its a VFX question it belongs in VFX esp if its only been 10 mins you dont post in a code channel..thats just saying "ey I need to know this now, let me do as I please"

smells entitlement lol

[robust turret]

Or maybe saying, This is not a too specialized question and it does not need a 10 years of VFX experience professional's opinion. Even an amateur in this field can answer this.
And I assume amateurs can be found in different channels as well.

[restive bone]

Idk how to word this without sounding suspicious so here we go lol

[rocky canyon]

🫣

[restive bone]

Is it possible for my game to scan a user's file folder and do something with the information? The idea is to search for specific files and turn them into objects on a shelf that you can then interact with.

[rocky canyon]

lmao..

[swift crag]

sure, you just use the standard System.IO stuff

[rocky canyon]

system.io is awesome

[restive bone]

What's that?

[rocky canyon]

its a library that interfaces w/ the OS

save files, read files, move files, copy files

[restive bone]

(I'm ngl I've never touched Unity, I'm making this music project purely for fun and I'm just asking so I can keep notes)

[rocky canyon]

etc it can all be done w/ System.IO

[restive bone]

I want to turn downloaded albums into physical records

[rocky canyon]

sus indeed

[restive bone]

Well, not literally physical

[slender nymph]

System.IO is not a unity specific thing. it's the namespace that contains all of the stuff you would regularly use for reading/writing files in c#

[restive bone]

But like, records on a shelf in the game

[eternal needle]

you should just let the user pick a file, which you may use System.IO for, and then do whatever shenanigans you want.

[rich adder]

just because the channel is called VFX doesnt mean its not the same people answering... has nothing to do with being experts in VFX.. its more fitting for the question to be there , and someone who wants to help with VFX question will look there..
(anyway aint going back n forth with this lol test your luck with doing it with mod around idk)

[rocky canyon]

yea i see what ur wanting to do

[eternal needle]

Users will absolutely hate it if you just automatically get all audio files u can

[rocky canyon]

similar example: populate a bookshelf w/ all the TXT files on a user's machine

[restive bone]

For full transparency I've purchased these albums legally and expect my users to do the same

[eternal needle]

That isnt the issue, its just about how a user will feel if u go ahead and scan random folders in attempt to find audio files.

[restive bone]

I know EmuVR does this with ROM files instead of audio files

[rocky canyon]

ya, not sure i'd be down w/ giving those permissions to a game

u could probably make em feel better if its a folder inside ur build files..

that u can move ur audio files to.. to then see them in the game

not sure about u just willy nilly lookin around my machine tho

[summer stump]

Correct, not acceptable.

[restive bone]

Ah, so having the music folder be inside the game files instead of scanning the user's C\Music

[rocky canyon]

ya, i feel like thats more acceptable

[restive bone]

Probably a lot easier to implement too

[rocky canyon]

or even let them chose which folder u look thru

[eternal needle]

or, #💻┃code-beginner message
as every website does when you want to upload a file

[rocky canyon]

so they can manually pick their own library folder

[restive bone]

Dunno how I didn't think of that, I'm 99% sure that's what Emu does

[rocky canyon]

oh i missed this.. this is exactly what i'd do

[restive bone]

That was the idea, I forgot to say that

[rocky canyon]

oh yea, thats fine then

[restive bone]

I kinda suck at typing, I carry myself much better over vc but I'm in the middle of 50 things atm and this was the most convenient way to ask

I just want to give people an interesting way to enjoy their music in VR

[rocky canyon]

👍 good luck with that.. sounds like it could be cool

[restive bone]

Now to find a good tutorial

[rocky canyon]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YCWtFG3Jv80&ab_channel=AbolfazlTanha-Game%26XRmaker

check this out

[restive bone]

Oh cool! I didn't expect such a specific one to exist

[rocky canyon]

ya, i figured they'd be a simple one like upload custom avatar

that'd have all the same logic ud need for audio files as wel

System.IO makes an appearance!

[restive bone]

I was looking around at the more general ones to get myself used to the basics of Unity since I've never used it. I've seen a lot of people talk about Brackeys' videos, but they're almost a decade old and the UI is completely different.

[rocky canyon]

dont use brackeys please

[restive bone]

Is there some drama I need to know?

[rocky canyon]

his tutorials are okay but they're sooo "to the point" that they're hard to expand on

and alot of em are full of little bugs

[rich adder]

the code is usually not very easy to extend on

or its at times very wrong and gets corrected only sometimes in later video

[restive bone]

I see

[rocky canyon]

https://github.com/SpawnCampGames/Resources/blob/main/101/readme.md

check out Sebastian Lague's stuff

[rich adder]

the gpt one 😬

[rocky canyon]

it really helped me when i first started

[rocky canyon]

its kinda meant to discourage you

[restive bone]

Before I really start working I do have one more question

[rich adder]

well thats good at least its not like "use chat gpt "

[rocky canyon]

ohh no, gosh no 🤢

not until u understand what ur doing

then i mildly approve

[rich adder]

Yeah it has helped me only a few occasions when I could not find specific formula online and surprisingly it did

[rocky canyon]

AI is only as good as the user commanding it

[restive bone]

Considering that

A. I've never developed before

And B. My Quest 2 has the battery life of a domestic hamster

Would it be easier to build my experience from the ground up for VR, or make a pancake build and then port it? Most of my friends don't own anything for VR so I would have more playtesters, but it might be harder to port interactions with almost 0 coding knowledge.

[rich adder]

Yeah that can be true

[rocky canyon]

id do it flat-screen first

and then move into VR

its not gonna be a pleasant experience with a shitty Headset w/ no battery life

[rich adder]

indeed. VR is not too different anyway just the interactions change

[restive bone]

The Q2 is admittedly not the easiest to work with lol

[rocky canyon]

yup, but you wont be very good at that stuff from the get-go..

so best learn ur way up to it

[restive bone]

Alright, I'll take a look at those resources

[rocky canyon]

i made a VR type scene w/ just mouse controls.. mouse movement move the head.. left click simulated grabbing somethign with ur left hand.. right click -> right hand

but since i only have a Windows Mixed Reality headset.. i never expanded on it

[rich adder]

I should grab a vr headset and start doing some stuff 😮 I'm wayy behind on that

[rocky canyon]

me and u both

it'll be cringe by the time i get aruond to use it

[restive bone]

Quest 3 should be going on sale this holiday season

[rich adder]

Yea that might be the next move, I bet a nice HDRP project would be finee on that

[rocky canyon]

Google Cardboard FTW

forget yall rich folks

[restive bone]

Never again.

[rocky canyon]

someone had a baaad experience

[rocky canyon]

u started on HDRP yet?

[restive bone]

I can play BONEWORKS for hours and feel nothing, but cellphone VR is truly the antithesis of the gods' light.

[rich adder]

Not sure if you rememeber the water project

[rocky canyon]

ohh i do

[rich adder]

also played around with Unity's RTX but my graphics card was crying, it did look good. HDRP still looks really good

[rocky canyon]

that was HDRP wasn'

t it.. i peaked on URP

[rich adder]

there is someothing about 6 the graphics on HDRP seemed to have improved

[rocky canyon]

not sure HDRP is worth the upgrade

[restive bone]

Oh dude, Unity has RTX support?

[rich adder]

for a while

[restive bone]

Wait til I find a way to badly implement this

[rich adder]

https://docs.unity3d.com/Packages/com.unity.render-pipelines.high-definition@14.0/manual/Ray-Tracing-Getting-Started.html

also we're kinda in a code channel so uhmm back ontopic 😅

[rocky canyon]

fr.. dang yall

[lost hamlet]

People have been making their own ray tracing and path tracing for a while

Which typically have the advantage but also disadvantage of not depending on ray tracing hardware

Weirdly enough I feel like the path traced games that perform the best are the ones using their own implementation, like Teardown for example

That thing runs on my 3050. Tried it even at 4K and it was kinda playable

At 900p (my monitor resolution) it runs over 110fps, max everything

Tho denoising isn't comparable to what Nvidia has

[vast sandal]

This is from the standard Unity ThirdPersonController Script:

` private void Update()
{
_hasAnimator = TryGetComponent(out _animator);

        JumpAndGravity();
        GroundedCheck();
        Move();
    }`

Is the ' _hasAnimator = TryGetComponent(out _animator);' part neccessary during update()?
It gets called during Start()... I thought stuff like this is quite "unideal" performance wise?

[slender bridge]

uhh that dont need to be in update

[slender bridge]

What is _hasAnimator even being used for.

[vast sandal]

`private void JumpAndGravity()
{
if (Grounded)
{
// reset the fall timeout timer
_fallTimeoutDelta = FallTimeout;

    // update animator if using character
    if (_hasAnimator)
    {
        _animator.SetBool(_animIDJump, false);
        _animator.SetBool(_animIDFreeFall, false);
    }

    // stop our velocity dropping infinitely when grounded
    if (_verticalVelocity < 0.0f)
    {
        _verticalVelocity = -2f;
    }

...
`
I assume for this

[teal viper]

It is not ideal. Unity docs and samples would often provide not the most optimal solution, because that is not what they're aiming for.

[slender bridge]

You only need that once unless you have some weird code somewhere else that removes the animator

[vast sandal]

Hm.. maybe it is neccessary in order to update the animator on every frame?
But even than wouldn't it be better to get that component once and store it globally?

[teal viper]

There's probably no hidden meaning behind that code. It was just implemented like that for simplicity

[vast sandal]

Aight gotcha..
So.. what would u suggest?
Get that info once and store it in a persistent variable?

[slender bridge]

If you have no reason the animator should ever be destroyed from the GO then I see no reason why this wouldn't be approached like any other referenced component, serialize it in the inspector or use awake to get it. If you are worried, then null check or require the component.

[slender nymph]

Don't Ask To Ask

[ruby ember]

what

[slender nymph]

click the link. read it.

[ruby ember]

no

this is getting bullshit

[slender nymph]

then don't get help

[ruby ember]

fuck this server

[slender nymph]

you're welcome to leave 👋

[rocky canyon]

imagine getting all pissed off b/c someone sent you a resource that would actually prove to be beneficial to you... and even learn you a way to get help more often, and of better quality.. and then rage-quit taking all the bad etiquette w/ u

[slender bridge]

DVUnit doesn't have to imagine.

[ember tangle]

UnityEngine.Random vs Unity.Mathematics.Random?

[swift crag]

UnityEngine.Random uses a static rng state, so you don't have to manually create a random instance and then ask it for random values

This can be a problem in some cases (like if you want to have multiple distinct RNGs)

Everything in Unity.Mathematics was designed to be usable in Burst-compiled code (which can run much faster, but requires you to use only a subset of C# features)

I would use UnityEngine.Random unless you have a compelling reason to use the Mathematics random

[ember tangle]

its telling me that Random is an ambiguous reference between the two so I need to pick one or the other I guess. I added a line that used Mathf.PerlinNoise

Okay looks like UnityEngine.Random it is for me

[slender nymph]

https://unity.huh.how/compiler-errors/cs0104

[swift crag]

you may have accidentally added the using Unity.Mathematics directive

[ember tangle]

I think it was automatically added when I used Mathf.PerlinNoise

[swift crag]

Mathf is part of UnityEngine.

Get rid of the Unity.Mathematics directive and see if you get any new errors

[remote osprey]

Hello

Is there a Deque data structure implementationin Unity?

[swift crag]

oh, a double-ended queue

[remote osprey]

yesss

[ember tangle]

No errors. I wonder why it automatically added in the first place?

[rocky canyon]

IDE's tend to do that

[remote osprey]

Double Ended Queue

Deque

[rocky canyon]

sometimes i'll have 3 or four unneeded crap up there i have to remove

[swift crag]

LinkedList<T> lets you access both the first and last elements

so that should provide efficient insertion and removal at both ends

[slender nymph]

gotta pay attention to what you are auto completing, you may have accidentally autocompleted something from that namespace so it was added

[remote osprey]

Cool, that's exactly what I need! thanks!

[swift crag]

I turned off automatic namespace insertion

I kept getting a really goofy directive for..

this one is especially funny because it's a UnityEditor class

so it'd randomly explode my builds

[rich adder]

obscure af.
I love getting the Visual Scripting ones

apparently Start is a class in the Visual Scripting namespace

[vast sandal]

public bool TryGetComponent<T>(out T component) { return gameObject.TryGetComponent<T>(out component); }
Does this return the component or just a boolean when it finds said component?

[swift crag]

The return type is bool

Therefore, it returns a bool

It's impossible for it to return anything else.

It will also assign the component it finds into that out parameter

[rich adder]

the reason this returns a bool and not a component is because its already doing a null check for you
Same as writing

MyComponent myComp = GetComponent <MyComponent>();
if(myComp)
//do stuff```
the `out` is just a way to return a value or more from method without changing return type

[vast sandal]

so..

`If(TryGetComponent(out component)){

changeSomething(component)

}`

would work..?

[rich adder]

assuming you already defined type of component

other wise you need to include it after the out

[vast sandal]

Fair! Tyvm 🙂

[iron wing]

why cant i modify the return value of Transform.position inside of my Character Controller? It says it's not a variable, even though I can modify it's position in the editor.

Cannot modify the return value of 'Transform.position' because it is not a variable

[rich adder]

position is a property that returns a copy thats why you cannot modify it directly but assign a new value to it by replacing

https://unity.huh.how/compiler-errors/cs1612

[hasty sleet]

Does if (!component) do the same thing as if (component == null)? I use Jetbrains IDE and sometimes it corrects me but sometimes it does not

[rich adder]

they do the same thing yes

[hasty sleet]

I saw something about the null check being overridden but i do not recall

Oops yeah

[rich adder]

yes unity does its own method of null check, thats why ? doesnt work

[slender nymph]

it will warn you about the second being expensive, it doesn't check for the implicit cast to bool, but the operations are exactly the same

[summer stump]

There was a conversation about this earlier, a rider dev said it is.. a bug? They said it wasn't right

[rich adder]

must be second one today it seems lol

[slender nymph]

also if you are curious what exactly the null check entails, it does this: https://github.com/Unity-Technologies/UnityCsReference/blob/master/Runtime/Export/Scripting/UnityEngineObject.bindings.cs#L124
both the equality operators and the implicit bool operator call that method

[hasty sleet]

Awesome, thanks

[hasty sleet]

Love Rider. Someone in this chat mentioned it like ~2 weeks ago so I gave it a shot and the Unity integration is outstanding relative to visual studio. Love the QoL features

[restive bone]

Can someone explain this code error? my code is the following:

using System.Collections;
using System.Collections.Generic;
using UnityEngine;

public class Test1 : MonoBehaviour

int frameCount;

{
// Start is called before the first frame update
void Start(){
print ("Start");
}

// Update is called once per frame
void Update()
{
    frameCount += 1:
    print ("Update");
}

}

Assets\Test1.cs(18,24): error CS1513: } expected

[rich adder]

!ide

[eternal falcon]

💡 IDE Configuration

If your IDE is not autocompleting code
or underlining errors, please configure it.

Select one:

• Visual Studio (Installed via Unity Hub)
• Visual Studio (Installed manually)
• VS Code
• JetBrains Rider
• Other/None

[frosty hound]

Your int frameCount is outside of the { } surrounding the class

[restive bone]

I see what I did there

[restive bone]

Lmao I forgot to do this

Wait a minute

This is already how it's set up

It naturally uses it

[rich adder]

wdym "naturally uses it"

[restive bone]

My bad

What I mean is, it was already set up that way

All my scripts open in VS

[rich adder]

that doesn't mean its configured

it would be underlined red where it was missing

[restive bone]

I'm colorblind

Things tend to fade into the UI easily

[rich adder]

ok just heads up having a configured IDE is required to get more help on code in the future

syntax errors are equivalent to spelling errors

[restive bone]

I have it installed, connected, and I have the extension. What more do I need to do?

[restive bone]

That makes sense

[rich adder]

depends. are you using Visual Studio or VSCode

[restive bone]

Uhhhhhhh, I think I use the first one? The menu is solid black and it runs smoother than it should for being a Microsoft office product.

[rich adder]

you can literally look at the logos that match the taskbar icon..

how are you unsure

[restive bone]

As previously mentioned, I am profoundly (and legally) blind

[restive bone]

It is the second icon

[rich adder]

mentioned where ? you said color blind, I said look at the shapes of the icons are differet

[restive bone]

My bad, I thought I did. I apologize for the aggression.

[rich adder]

its fine no worries

do you have any errors in Output tab in vscode?

[restive bone]

I don't think I've ever seen it

However, I do get a million messages about not having the .NET something or other

[rich adder]

yup

that would be it

you would need to install the .NET SDK and restart the PC so the PATH properly updates to include the dotnet command , helps for Intellisense to work

[ivory bobcat]

When you finish, this would be the solution (ide highlight would suggest what is wrong):

[restive bone]

So what does the .NET SDK do?

Installing now

[restive bone]

Thank you, code works fine now! Turns out I misunderstood how brackets worked.

[rich adder]

help the C# devkit extension & unity one run the dotnet command so it can connect together to editor

[restive bone]

Ah, that makes sense

Well now it is installed

[rich adder]

make sure you have restarted the PC, removed the Visual Studio Code Editor package from Unity Package manager , and click Regen Project files in unity for good measure

[summer stump]

Btw, both are microsoft.

[olive galleon]

Does anyone know a solution to my problem: Each time a create a new Enemy gameobject it shares the same health as every other enemy, is there a way to decouple them? I'll provide code is necessary but don't know what exactly to send, my Enemy script or HealthManager script or the Script that casts the attack function.

[summer stump]

You made it static?

Or is the health in an SO?

[olive galleon]

I have a HealthManager class in an object and it's a singleton that the enemy scripts calls, i dont believe it's static

[summer stump]

Is there a single health variable in that healthamanager class?

And all the enemies use it?

Where is health? That is what I'm trying to find out

[slender nymph]

it's a singleton
that doesn't sound right

[summer stump]

Health should be in a script attached to each enemy

[olive galleon]

Oh ok, thank you I'll try that !

[summer stump]

In the future, a single variable would of course be a single thing. If all the enemies are using one health variable, they all share the same health.

Anything you want to be separate needs to actually be separate

[feral sapphire]

How do i make a button that plays random musics (audios) ? I made a empty object and put a small script on it with "randommusic" and made a button with the click "playrandommusic" but nothing happens once clicked.

[slender nymph]

hint: read the warning in your IDE, it's helpful.

[spare mountain]

all you're doing is assigning randomClip
why do you expect anything to play?

[slender nymph]

more specifically assigning it to a local variable and then never using that local variable (which is the point of the warning i mentioned)

[spare mountain]

exactly

[feral sapphire]

im just thinking basic stuff. audio - music haha xD.. so if mention a audio it should play in my head

[spare mountain]

random question - why should monobehaviors not be instantiated directly?

(like new Class)

[slender nymph]

because unity manages the creation of components so they are added on the C++ side of the engine. if you construct it directly it won't do that so it won't receive messages like Awake, Update, Start, etc. nor can it be added to a gameobject

[spare mountain]

you're basically saying "this audio clip is named randomClip" and doing nothing with it

[slender nymph]

and if it doesn't need any of that then it doesn't need to be a component

[spare mountain]

ohhh interesting
so were I to be using it like a class and not as a script I should just remove the inheritence of MonoBehavior?

[slender nymph]

yes, no point in inheriting from MonoBehaviour if it doesn't need any of the inherited behaviour of a MonoBehaviour

[spare mountain]

gotcha, thanks!

you're very knowledgeable

[slender nymph]

just comes with experience, i've been using unity for several years now and i try and dedicate at least a little time each day to utilizing those skills/knowledge

[spare mountain]

yeh I definitely use unity more on and off
so your skill level, even if you may not think it's crazy high, is still admirable to me at least

[feral sapphire]

how come the Audio source gets removed from the Object once play testing in editor?

[teal viper]

You're probably removing it via code.

That or it's not actually removed🤷‍♂️

[feral sapphire]

managed to fix that now :3 ty

[iron wing]

for whatever reason, this block of code in the update method, doesnt actually seem to reset my velocity when my charactercontroller is on the floor, unless I'm walking up some slope. has anyone had this issue?

{
    Velocity.y += Gravity * GravityMultiplier * Time.deltaTime;
    Character.Move(-Velocity);
}
else
{
    Velocity.y = 0f;
}```

[charred spoke]

Are you calling move after setting the y comp of the velocity to 0 ?

[burnt vapor]

What is logged if you log Character.isGrounded and expect your character to be grounded?

[iron wing]

I didnt realize you could log that!! thank you a ton that helps so damn much, I didn't realize it might be a problem with that. although I don't really know why it's acting the way it is, still

[burnt vapor]

Best thing to do with issues is to isolate the main problem. In this case I would have definitely checked that variable first, and then move from there 😎

[iron wing]

thank you oh wise one 🙏

[burnt vapor]

So now that you know this, why does it not update to the new value? Is this a variable you control? If so, when is it changed and why doesn't this apply? At that point you can start doing more logging

[iron wing]

does it matter at all that my character controller is placed above my ground? if so, can this be a result of some of my code or should i be looking in my player's properties?

[burnt vapor]

Depends. What exactly checks if you are grounded and how is this checked?

If it's the collission that floats above the ground then it probably isn't aware that you are grounded due to the distance

[iron sand]

I need some help figuring out why i can't get my grounded checks working

everything i've tried has done nothing to help

i've looked up tutorials on youtube and even showed my code to chatgpt

[burnt vapor]

Please share the !code of your system so that we can get debugging

[eternal falcon]

Posting code

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Add a comment with a line number if there is an error message.

[iron sand]

https://hastebin.com/share/sotebuhupo.csharp

[burnt vapor]

So what is the issue? Does GroundCheck() not work?

[iron sand]

apparently not, because every time i try to jump, the debug log says i'm not grounded

[burnt vapor]

Then likely Physics.BoxCast is not returning what you think it does

[iron wing]

Uri above solved my issue!! that took like 5 hours but I'm really glad it kind of works now.
but yeah, i still haven't figure out why IsGrounded isn't working. Which I do need later. I'm not sure why it's hovering above the ground. Nothing should really be changing it in the code I don't think.

https://paste.ofcode.org/tkxNjubRZ5dkvJQwKNCNXX

please excuse the messy code this is my first ever project 😟

[iron sand]

probably. i also haven't been seeing a box being cast to the scene in the first place

according to a video i watched, that code from line 110 downward should be casting a box, but there isn't one no matter what size i put

[spare mountain]

https://docs.unity3d.com/ScriptReference/Physics.BoxCast.html

are you expecting to see a literal box appear?

[iron sand]

yeah

[spare mountain]

read the docs and tell me where it says it draws a box on the screen

[iron sand]

here's the same thing from the video

[spare mountain]

he must be doing something else

boxcast doesn't render anything

[iron sand]

well that's what the gizmo is for (i think)

[spare mountain]

possibly

[eternal needle]

U might have the gizmos button off on the game or scene view. Should be in the top right of either window

[iron sand]

oh yeah, I can see it now

on an unrelated note I no longer need help with this, after some irl discussion i'm gonna be using a prebuilt controller moving on with my project, rather than building my own from scratch

[flint thicket]

hi i have a problem

where my keycode dose not work

so i cant turm left or right

i dont think is a programing error

nvm

i restarted my unity and everything works fine

[sonic dome]

how do i fix this

[burnt vapor]

You add the correct header, in this case Content-Type and with the application/wasm header

[sonic dome]

correct?

[burnt vapor]

The header it requests

The error is clear

[sonic dome]

so its in the html file?

[burnt vapor]

No, it's part of your HTTP request

[sonic dome]

where is that

[burnt vapor]

My guess whatever is the "connecting" part of your game

Or don't you have any specific web requests in your game?

[sonic dome]

my connection part just takes the url like example.com/?room=id

[burnt vapor]

Okay, so what is the relevant code here?

Please share it

[languid spire]

I think, in this case, it is a server configuration problem. The server is not set up for the correct Mime type for .wasm files

[sonic dome]

from untiy project or index.html

[sonic dome]

how is that done

[languid spire]

presumably you have a web server, configure it correctly

[sonic dome]

im using pun 2

[languid spire]

but your code is being served from somewhere

[sonic dome]

yep

which code should i share here

[languid spire]

why do people do stuff that they understand absolutely nothing about?

[sonic dome]

i mean it worked fine in local host

so it has some issue when i sent it to hostinger

[languid spire]

is hostinger where you are serving your build from

[fossil drum]

How else would you learn about new things?
Try Fail Learn Repeat is a mantra for a reason, especially in a beginners channel.

[languid spire]

RTFM and do research first. Not just blindly dive in

[sonic dome]

yes

[languid spire]

So, that is where you need to change the configuration as I said above

[sonic dome]

so it has nothing to do with the build rather the server config?

[languid spire]

yes

[sonic dome]

okk let me see

[languid spire]

the Unity docs contain a section on how the server should be configured

[sonic dome]

okk let me try to find it

figured it out

wasnt the server issue

now works fine

[stuck palm]

Is a list FIFO?

[iron wing]

for whatever reason IsGrounded is really confused on what it wants to be. I'm using a singular Move(); method inside of the Update method. I have no clue why this is happening, I'm using the default properties for a capsule and it's CharacterController.

https://paste.ofcode.org/SHU5yQZmKJBBzEtT7Z8UZ5

The messages printed in the output are simply the result of print(Character.isGrounded);

[ivory bobcat]

A list requires you to provide a target or index when removing individual elements - what you're probably thinking of are queues and stacks.

The isGround variable updates when the character moves so if it's fluctuating that would mean that you're likely moving and colliding into the ground (possibly with gravity) but not always - if the delta time factor is minuscule that frame, you just might not have triggered is-grounded to be true (my assumption)

Was the CharacterController touching the ground during the last move?
https://docs.unity3d.com/ScriptReference/CharacterController-isGrounded.html
Maybe have your own isGrounded property that would be true (grounded) unless you've been ungrounded for a set amount of time (some threshold, for example 200ms). @iron wing

[naive pawn]

that's for problem solving, not for learning everything
doing is a supplement for research, not a replacement

[vast vessel]

will the static DialogEventCallback method at the bottom, modify EventInstances that was passed to it on line 85?
will the mthod like actually modify the dictionary and remove an item from it?

[burnt vapor]

Please properly share your !code

[eternal falcon]

Posting code

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[burnt vapor]

Also,

[vast vessel]

i dont want to crash unity again

[burnt vapor]

Log the list of known instances before removing it and after removing it for example

[vast vessel]

it takes so long to boot up

[burnt vapor]

I don't see how a crash is relevant here, sounds like a different issue