💻┃code-beginner

[summer stump]

When it does, it's because it stole the code of course

[polar acorn]

Most professional programmers can't even make scaleable code

[wicked cairn]

All of it ran on the first try and worked, connected from unity to node on the host machine and printed the logs correct. No errors

[rich adder]

exactly, it can run basic checks on its own code but not actual systems connected together

[polar acorn]

It's not just a process of writing, it's a process of documenting, training, and refactoring that a LLM simply is not designed to do

[rich adder]

at least github copilot type of extensions, train on your own code

but those are cute fluff

[polar acorn]

Even if you buy into the LLM hype and don't assume it's just copy-pasting snippets it stole from the questions on StackOverflow, an LLM is not a knowledge base. If even one hallucination makes it into your documentation, every single bit of knowledge added after is potentially tainted and would need to be thrown out and rewritten

[wicked cairn]

Theres a right way to use and ask for things with gpt. Ive learned to describe well what you need and to treat it like its capable. It ends up giving very great code that is totally understandable and commented. If you do not like what it gave you, just ask it to rewrite the previous script using a different method and it will

[rich adder]

"Will AI replace my coding job"

Future Coding Jobs:

Must go through thousands lines of code to fix AI code

[wicked cairn]

I do not expect ai to write everything, I expect it to give a working script that is easily something to learn from

[rich adder]

You're better off tossing a coin

[polar acorn]

And then the next time you ask it about a different thing it has zero idea what it's already done and has no way of making interoperable systems

Because it does not store that information anywhere

[wicked cairn]

Give it a proper try

[polar acorn]

It literally cannot

[rich adder]

You make it seems like a i tried it once..and said Ok its broke

[timid hinge]

can someon help

[wicked cairn]

gpt learns from your chat history and changes the way it treats you

[rich adder]

I still use it to this day, just not for coding takss..

[scenic saffron]

Has anyone watched this tutorial an knowes if it also applies too Unity?

https://youtu.be/GhQdlIFylQ8?si=Xh6Eaj6wu8vvZk_Z

[rich adder]

at most maybe writing boilerplates
but I already know what to look for in that

[slender nymph]

did you read what it said?

[timid hinge]

yes but i have attack animations

[polar acorn]

It really cannot. Any sense of it "remembering" you is pure pareidolia

[willow scroll]

Definitely not. Unity would've been mentioned otherwise

[wicked cairn]

try it

[rich adder]

You're saying your prompting skills will magically fix a tool not meant for coding..

[languid spire]

C# is C#, of course it applies to Unity

[polar acorn]

It's programmed to pretend like it remembers you

[slender nymph]

okay, but what about an Attack parameter on the animator controller?
because that is what you are trying to set

[wicked cairn]

its quite brilliant at writing code if you ask correctly

[rich adder]

teach me how to "ask correctly" then

[timid hinge]

the problem is that i dont know what animator controller

[willow scroll]

They mean whether it teaches Unity directly

[wicked cairn]

because you created a new chat, intentionally erasing your history

[languid spire]

you still don't get it do you. LLM's cannot write code because they literally do not know what code is or how to apply logic

[willow scroll]

The questions apart from the current chat aren't saved.

[polar acorn]

All right so just make an entire game and web server database without ever closing the tab or shutting of your computer

[rich adder]

THE MACHINES ARE COMING

[polar acorn]

Yes that is exactly my point

[elfin nacelle]

Does anyone know how to make a good looking script because I’m pretty new to coding and I was able to make a walking script for the player but I don’t really know how to make a script for the player to look around?

[rich adder]

"goodlooking" script is a scrip that works xD

[wicked cairn]

Which is a awesome thing, because in one chat you may want to talk all about unity, in one chat you may want to talk all about food, in separate chats it learns that topic and about you so it can better help in that field

[languid spire]

I think he meant good, looking

[slender nymph]

check the documentation pinned in #🏃┃animation to learn how to use the animator

[elfin nacelle]

Ya

[rich adder]

yeah ik just being a smart ass

[elfin nacelle]

Oh

[rich adder]

there are so many online

did you look around?

best you follow a proper tutorial that covers both, or better yet build your own

[polar acorn]

...which also means that attempting to make a large program is going to mean your snippets have absolutely no consistency together since the previous ones aren't remembered. Did you lose track of the conversation?

Are you ChatGPT

[rich adder]

almost

[elfin nacelle]

OK

[wicked cairn]

You can copy paste your script and say "This is what I have now, my next question will be about that code"

[polar acorn]

So just open a tab, paste 4,000 files of code and say "hey man can you fix this"

[wicked cairn]

basically, not a problem. you dont paste a file, you paste the code straight into the chat and type your prompt at the end. If you want to upload actual files, thats gpt4 lol

[polar acorn]

So now you're manually opening 4,000 files and pasting them into one giant text document that you can then paste in as plain text. That's worse, you know. You do know that's worse, right?

[rich adder]

this reminds me of nam and this is like the new recruit coming in with the fresh gear after the academy

[wicked cairn]

My use is when I actually am lost on something I paste my code into gpt and ask it how I might add a feature into this script, and it sends back that feature. This example is great as a learning tool

Learn! not product

[polar acorn]

This whole thing was about the concept of writing "scaleable code" in ChatGPT. You're moving the goalposts

Scaleable means it needs to know everything that came before it in order to ensure everything is consistent with existing documentation and standards and that cannot be done with a chatbot that has no working memory or presence of thought

[wicked cairn]

Everything requires learning. For unity, quite some time. Im trying to say that its great to have a tool such as gpt which can show you awesome samples

[polar acorn]

Which is not what we are talking about

Every time I bring up a reason why it doesn't work for the thing we are talking about you bring up "But it works for this other unrelated thing!"

That's not the conversation right now

[wicked cairn]

you wouldnt want it to be scalable, youd want it to teach you everything about a topic and then you can easily write stuff yourself

[polar acorn]

Here's another thing a chat bot can't do: Stay the fuck on topic

[wicked cairn]

Seems you may not have learned how to use the chat rooms in it. you could try googling how to use the ai

[willow scroll]

Most people also cannot

[rich adder]

or saying we simply don't know how to ask it, to get good results? thats mental gymnastics

[polar acorn]

Christ on a cracker it's a fucking chat bot it's not a goddamn mystery box

I've written LLMs. I know how they fucking work

They can not do this sort of high level project management

Programming is not hard because of typing the functions. It can help you do the literal easiest and most trivial parts of programming and is absolutely worthless to do anything difficult

[wicked cairn]

Then maybe this is a good tool to help, if you are ever lost. A lot of tutorials online are not very great, but ive found that gpt is able to clean it up

[rich adder]

I bet they never used a Vector database before either

they have no clue how results get composed

[polar acorn]

ChatGPT is, at best, an intern who can't even get you coffee

Programming is 90% documentation and meetings. Typing the lines into a text document is a pittance of the job.

[wicked cairn]

im sure it could give you great suggestions on how to obtain coffee.

Youtube and google cant give you coffee...

[rich adder]

by that logic youtube and google can do the same on "suggestion how to obtain"

[fickle plume]

Let's not get sidetracked here

[wicked cairn]

Therefor you have multiple choices on learning tools.

[polar acorn]

At no point have I been talking about learning tools

Yet you continue to act as if I was

[rich adder]

This started by connecting database in Unity via Node

who said anything about learning

[wicked cairn]

Well you made it seem as if it were completely useless. So I wanted to provide a little bit of perspective. I dont mean to be way off topic, but just wanted to say that its a neat tool and its wonderful that it is capable of providing code.

Youtube and google have been long used, but theres quite a lot of wrong information. Either way, its all about learning

[rich adder]

just a reminder , also yes this is wayy offtopic at this point. I said my peace , you use whatever you think is good for you

[languid spire]

Classic

[rich adder]

Sparklez using it too much xD

[polar acorn]

"Hey I was just typing your symptoms into the computer here and it says you might have 'Network Connectivity Problems'"

[languid spire]

All I asked it to do was add a break; statement into a for loop

[wicked cairn]

Sorry if I misunderstood. To me it is great because I do not know much about backend, but if you dont like it thats ok. However, you should not call it useless, it is very helpful when learning.

[rich adder]

No one said it was useless though ? at least me personally, said the code isnt scalable. Maybe lookup what scalable code/ systems means

[fickle plume]

@wicked cairn This is #💻┃code-beginner don't bring up ChatGPT here at all. And this #💻┃code-beginner message argument is completely pointless because AI chat is a closed box and publicly posted solutions can be curated by commenters.

[wicked cairn]

Ok. I wont again. There are a lot of fair points in all directions. I see public posts can be helpful sometimes but always arguments on whos code is better, seen that on stackoverflow and stuff. Unity takes a lot of learning no matter how advanced you are, so I wanted to put it out there another tool that may be a option.

[timid hinge]

When i start the game this sprite appear but i dont select that sprite to appear there

[wintry quarry]

sounds like your code or your animator are populating it

[rich adder]

animator ?

[timid hinge]

what do you mean

[rich adder]

I see you have an animator, that typically swaps sprites for animation.
unless its code you have like Praetor mentioned

[honest haven]

if (currentHP <= 0)
{
return;
currentBattleState = BattleState.GameOver;
gameOverPanel.SetActive(true);
gameOverText.gameObject.SetActive(true);
} does return execute code underneath once even if its in update?

[rich adder]

it wont no

[honest haven]

cool thanks

[rich adder]

it returns out of the whole function

[honest haven]

wasnt 100% sure

[short hazel]

You'll get a warning also given that your code editor is configured. On the next line after return;:

Unreachable code detected
Which is pretty explicit

[nova wagon]

nvm

figured it out

[honest haven]

Yh it is grey out. but just wanted to 100% confirm this

[rich adder]

it grays it out a bit yea

[honest haven]

yh

[rich adder]

oh wow Rider grays it out completly

[wicked cairn]

Based on your function name and comment by it that you have not gotten the second delay yet, you can research "unity Coroutines" it works with float delays

[honest haven]

yh do others not then

[nova wagon]

it was working fine, i was just pressing the key in the scene window instead of the game 😂

[honest haven]

have used jetbrains for years .

[rich adder]

VS just makes the color more grayish

but still keeps the colors

[honest haven]

oh i would find that hard to spot

[rich adder]

yeah prob bad for those who are not sensitive to color changes :p

[honest haven]

lol

but its free

[nova wagon]

oh what theme is this

[honest haven]

cant win at every thing

[rich adder]

There is no specific theme, I just changed my own colors in VS

[nova wagon]

looks cool

[viral creek]

using System.Collections.Generic;
using UnityEngine;

public class EnemyFollower : MonoBehaviour
{
    public GameObject playerPrefab;
    private Transform playerTransform;
    public int speed;

    private void Start()
    {
        // Find the player's transform
        playerTransform = playerPrefab.transform;
    }

    private void Update()
    {
        playerTransform = playerPrefab.transform;
        FollowPlayer();
    }

    private void FollowPlayer()
    {
        // Calculate the direction from the enemy to the player
        Vector3 directionToPlayer = playerTransform.position - transform.position;

        // Rotate the enemy to face the player
        transform.rotation = Quaternion.LookRotation(directionToPlayer);

        // Move the enemy towards the player
        transform.position += transform.forward * Time.deltaTime * speed;
    }
}

[rich adder]

this is the font I use
https://www.jetbrains.com/lp/mono/
funny enough its Jetbrains made it 😛

[viral creek]

the Player is a prefab btw

[rich adder]

is there a question here?

[viral creek]

ye the code no worky

it only goes to the players spawn origin rather than the location every frame

@wintry quarry here you go

i was thinking it wasnt updating position possibly

[rich adder]

you're setting position to a prefab

set position to the spawned transform

[wintry quarry]

It's doing exactly what you told it to do!

[viral creek]

i need to set position to the clone?

how would i do that if it hasnt spawned when it starts...?

[wintry quarry]

No you need the enemy to refer to the clone

[viral creek]

im sorry im like really new

[wicked cairn]

When the enemy spawns you need the code to grab the players object at runtime to grab its runtime location

[wintry quarry]

You just pass the reference on your code for the enemy spawner

[viral creek]

i thought i referenced the prefab already?

oh i see my issue

[wicked cairn]

The reference you put is to a prefab in the Assets folder, not the one in the game

[rich adder]

yeah but not the object Cloned from it

[viral creek]

i referenced the prefab not the one ing

how would i reference the one ing?

[rich adder]

when you spawn enemy, pass the Player

[viral creek]

so i need it in the enemy spawner script?

[rich adder]

yea dont u have one that spawns enemies?

[viral creek]

i do

[rich adder]

so in there reference the player that was spawned

[viral creek]

using UnityEngine;

public class ZombieSpawner : MonoBehaviour
{
    //Defines All needed for script to run
    public GameObject prefab;
    public Transform spawn1;
    public Transform spawn2;
    public Transform spawn3;
    public Transform spawn4;

    private void Start()
    {
        StartCoroutine(SpawnPrefab());
    }

    private IEnumerator SpawnPrefab()
    {
        while (true)
        {
            SpawnPrefabAt(spawn1.position);
            SpawnPrefabAt(spawn2.position);
            SpawnPrefabAt(spawn3.position);
            SpawnPrefabAt(spawn4.position);
            yield return new WaitForSeconds(30f);
        }
    }

    private void SpawnPrefabAt(Vector3 position)
    {
        Instantiate(prefab, position, Quaternion.identity);
    }
}

so i can use the public GameObject Player:

[rich adder]

yea but you drag the one spawned in scene, not the prefab again

[viral creek]

so i would have to do that everytime i hit play?

or is there a way for it to happen automatically

[wicked cairn]

Player = GameObject.FindGameObjectWithTag("Player"); on start. it would be something like this

[viral creek]

I SEE

[rich adder]

if your player is spawned at runtime you need a method that finds it

[viral creek]

i have a player tag

[wicked cairn]

    void Start()
    {
        playerPrefab = GameObject.FindGameObjectWithTag("Player");

        if (playerPrefab == null)
        {
            Debug.LogError("Couldnt find it");
            return;
        }
        playerTransform = playerPrefab.transform;
    }
```in this one

[viral creek]

okay so

what i understand is this

[rich adder]

the if statement is missing a return

[viral creek]

my issue was that i did not reference the Player clone i referenced the prefab, prefab doesnt spawn in a clone of it does

[wicked cairn]

true sorry, was writing trying to read his code at the same time

[rich adder]

if its Null assigning a null to a null is pointless

[viral creek]

hence why it just goes straight

is that correct?

[rich adder]

Prefabs are not objects

they are just blueprints to how gameobject will be constructed

[viral creek]

so it couldnt find an object

[wicked cairn]

prefab is only a gameobject once its in the scene

[viral creek]

and it was like well just go straight since there is no person to lock onto

[wintry quarry]

Prefabs are definitely objects

[polar acorn]

Actually a prefab is always a game object. It just doesn't actually exist in the scene until you spawn it

[wintry quarry]

and they definitely are GameObjects

And they have a position

whatever position is set in the prefab

[wicked cairn]

nave is the one who said its not. but in this case I meant that hes trying to grab a gameobject at runtime

[rich adder]

oh myb then

never really thought of them as gameobjects

makes sense though they do have position

[polar acorn]

It's weird because they are GameObjects but they also don't exist

[viral creek]

lol

they are and arent at the same time

[polar acorn]

Schrödinger's Thing

[viral creek]

using System.Collections;
using System.Collections.Generic;
using UnityEngine;

public class EnemyFollower : MonoBehaviour
{
    private GameObject Player = GameObject.FindGameObjectWithTag("Player");
    private Transform playerTransform;
    public int speed;

    void Start()
    {
        if (Player == null)
        {
            Debug.LogError("Couldnt find it");
            return;
        }
        playerTransform = Player.transform;
    }

    private void Update()
    {
        playerTransform = Player.transform;
        FollowPlayer();
    }

    private void FollowPlayer()
    {
        // Calculate the direction from the enemy to the player
        Vector3 directionToPlayer = playerTransform.position - transform.position;

        // Rotate the enemy to face the player
        transform.rotation = Quaternion.LookRotation(directionToPlayer);

        // Move the enemy towards the player
        transform.position += transform.forward * Time.deltaTime * speed;
    }
}

so this is what i have now

[rich adder]

oh god no..

[viral creek]

and it couldnt find the object

oh what did i do now qwq

[rich adder]

this is compile error

[viral creek]

actually it didnt error on compile

[polar acorn]

Can't use Find outside a function

[viral creek]

i see

[rich adder]

You can't run a method in initializer

[wicked cairn]

Read the code I sent again lol!

[viral creek]

okay sparklez

i mean wont it say that playerPrefab doesnt exist?

[rich adder]

dont just blindly copy code, you have to understand why you need the code you need

[wicked cairn]

it does exist tho in your scene as long as you have a player object with the tag Player

[rich adder]

Assuming that Start function runs AFTER player prefab was spawned

[viral creek]

okay so if i copy that to the code it says tjos

[rich adder]

otherwise ur back at square one

[polar acorn]

What is playerPrefab

[rich adder]

should configure ur IDE first

[viral creek]

in this case it was defined as the playerPrefab earlier

[eternal needle]

!ide

[eternal falcon]

💡 IDE Configuration

If your IDE is not autocompleting code
or underlining errors, please configure it.

Select one:

• Visual Studio (Installed via Unity Hub)
• Visual Studio (Installed manually)
• VS Code
• JetBrains Rider
• Other/None

[viral creek]

but i took it out perhaps if i readd the definition

[wicked cairn]

using System.Collections;
using System.Collections.Generic;
using UnityEngine;

public class EnemyFollower : MonoBehaviour
{
    private GameObject playerPrefab;
    private Transform playerTransform;
    public int speed;

    void Start()
    {
        playerPrefab = GameObject.FindGameObjectWithTag("Player");
        if (playerPrefab == null)
        {
            Debug.LogError("Couldnt find it");
            return;
        }
        playerTransform = playerPrefab.transform;
    }

    private void Update()
    {
        playerTransform = Player.transform;
        FollowPlayer();
    }

    private void FollowPlayer()
    {
        // Calculate the direction from the enemy to the player
        Vector3 directionToPlayer = playerTransform.position - transform.position;

        // Rotate the enemy to face the player
        transform.rotation = Quaternion.LookRotation(directionToPlayer);

        // Move the enemy towards the player
        transform.position += transform.forward * Time.deltaTime * speed;
    }
}
```Should be like this

[viral creek]

yeah i just saw that

and did that rn lol

[rich adder]

configure ur IDE first

[polar acorn]

Is playerPrefab a prefab or an object in the scene?

[viral creek]

whats an ide...

[wicked cairn]

in the scene

[polar acorn]

It's named prefab but you're getting a scene object

[rich adder]

Your code editor

[polar acorn]

Then why is it called playerPrefab

[wicked cairn]

they are instantiating the prefab so i called it prefab

they can name it whatever they want

[viral creek]

okay sparklez it wokrs now

but id like to see if i understand what i did wrong earlier

so, in short i referenced a prefab which isnt ing, so we defined the prefab instead of the prefab as the gameobject that gets spawned in

and from there my code runs normal

oh

and it finds an object with the tag Player and goes to that

[rich adder]

its like a gameobject ready to be spawned in, so whatever position it has its whatever it was when you created it

[viral creek]

so thats why they went to the middle

since that was the location i created it

[rich adder]

yes most likely going to 0,0,0

which is typically world pos default

[wicked cairn]

in a brief explanation, stuff like public GameObject stuff will create a empty field. Unless of course its going to use a asset instantiated. What we are trying to do is find a object in your scene that is newly created. In the start() function it will be run for each enemy once they spawn in, thats when they need to find your player active in the scene

[viral creek]

and by chance anyone know what causes this?

my wall is fine ing

[rich adder]

you have negative values on ur collider

[viral creek]

heres what it looks liek

only thing negative is position

[polar acorn]

What about its parent objects

[rich adder]

maybe during rintime this happens

[viral creek]

OH I SEE

its because i mirrored the original hosue

okay thanks!

how can i mirror the house wihtout just turning the numbers negative?

[rich adder]

you shold prototype using Probuilder

using unity cubes is a bitch an a half to make levels

[wicked cairn]

Wdym by mirror? make more of it? click the parent object and press CTRL+D itll dupe the object in the current spot and you can use the arrows to move it

[viral creek]

miror across the y axis

so across the street

im making a zombie survival game

hence why zombies move to player

[rich adder]

you could Probuilderize the house and use the mirror tool

[viral creek]

i have no idea how to use that or where that even is

[wicked cairn]

oh is that why, i thought the player had donuts. (its a joke)

[viral creek]

he does!

the zombies beat him up for his donuts

[polar acorn]

https://unity.com/features/probuilder

[rich adder]

https://docs.unity3d.com/Packages/com.unity.probuilder@6.0/manual/Object_Mirror.html?q=mirror

[wicked cairn]

Other than probulder, CTRL+D to dupe it and change the rotation to 180 degree, then use the arrow to move it across the street. If you want to make more of multiple objects at the same time you can hold CTRL and click several objects in the hierarchy to select them

[rich adder]

unity also has a FBX exporter package if you want to make the house a whole object

[viral creek]

yeah but when i do the dupe thing the door is on the wrong side

i wanted the doors to all be in the center like its just mirrored

[wicked cairn]

the door should be a child of the house. and the house parent is what should be duped

[viral creek]

yeah look

and if i flip across the y using 180 it does the same thing where the door is the same spot

[viral creek]

i want them to be like this picture

[wicked cairn]

Hm. strange, hard to tell without messing with it. If you are going to model everything in unity, go for the links they sent (probuilder)

[viral creek]

can i put the house i made into there?

[wicked cairn]

its just a extra set of tools in unity to model stuff

[rich adder]

if you probuilderize it you can use the Probuilder tools on exisiting mesh

[viral creek]

so currently i have this version of unity

this is the one my professor told us to download and use

[rich adder]

its in package manager, the version is irrelevant

[viral creek]

how do i acces package manager?

[wicked cairn]

^ in unity Window -> Package manager

[viral creek]

thanks

[rich adder]

I would also grab the FBX exporter incase the house needs to be one whole mesh

[wicked cairn]

Ive not heard of that, does that combine cubes??

Looks like his house is made of a ton of cube objects

[viral creek]

it is lol

[viral creek]

hwo do i add that package?

[rich adder]

I dont rememeber if it combines them or you can choose, i think it usually makes its own hirerchy

[viral creek]

its not one of the options here

[rocky canyon]

its also in the package manager

[cinder crag]

could i perhaps do this in a better way and not have this mess in one void?

[rich adder]

https://docs.unity3d.com/Packages/com.unity.formats.fbx@5.1/manual/export-gameobjects.html

[viral creek]

found it

help this man

[rich adder]

just pass the SaveData object in the Save method?

[cinder crag]

wdtm?

[wicked cairn]

Neat. wonder if it truly mesh combines or if its just some data that its together. Will have to try it sometime. 10 years of unity, still always learning something new 🙂 (wrong channel for this chat lol, ill look it up thanks)

[cinder crag]

oh nvm

nah meh

idk

jsut gonna let it be like this idek

[cinder crag]

also nav i got a question

[rich adder]

I usually have a save method that is Generic

i just pass it an object

[cinder crag]

how can i cahnge the my project into my games name lmao

[viral creek]

where is the option for the mirror at

[rich adder]

Project Settings -> Player

[rich adder]

you have the make the whole house a probuildirezed object (save first)

[viral creek]

also is it possible to turn it night in the unity setting

okay how do i do that?

[rich adder]

https://docs.unity3d.com/Packages/com.unity.probuilder@5.0/manual/Object_ProBuilderize.html

also this belongs in #🛠️┃probuilder at very least now

its no longer code

[cinder crag]

thank you

[viral creek]

oh yeah my fault thank you navarone!

can you help me there navarone?

[quaint anchor]

Hello, I have a question! I am currently attempting to create a rhythm game esq gameplay loop, I'm currently trying to attempt to work out a way to spawn a projectile object that I have and then have it be destroyed upon being hit by the main player, then for the system to check how close the projectile was to being destroyed to a certain point, would anyone know how to do this ?

I have this scene set up, I want the projectiles to spawn from the enemy and then travel towards the player, then if the player swings at it, it gets destroyed and depending on the timing award a certain amount of points

[fickle plume]

check the distance to the player at collision event point

[quaint anchor]

how would i make it spawn and fire off in the first place ?

I created this script for the behaviour of the projectile itself

[wintry quarry]

It's best to compare the current song time at time of press with the song time of the note

[quaint anchor]

but I want to create a randomly generated pattern spawning system from the enemy object to the player

[wintry quarry]

The physical objects in the scene are more just for presentation

[quaint anchor]

its not a proper rhythm game, it wont have music in such regard, its meant to be moreso a reaction time game with the scoring system of a rhythm game

[wintry quarry]

Using physics definitely isn't the way to go for a rhythm game

[quaint anchor]

what would be the best method then ?

would it be best to have say like a circle point that indicates the place where youre meant to hit the note, then upon pressing space or something it checks that area for if a note is overlapping ?

[buoyant knot]

physics is mostly when you have shapes, and need to know when shapes are touching, and exactly by how much, what angle, etc

what you are looking for is a system that manages timings of notes, and separately draws a visual representation of said notes/timings to the screen

but no physics is needed, because you do not need to ask if the note and relevant note-hitting-object are touching. You just know based on the timing, and the shapes are just graphics.

in the case of a rhythm game, a physics engine would make everything sooo much more complicated for no reason

[wintry quarry]

As I mentioned already #💻┃code-beginner message

[hallow girder]

I'm making a game where I'm procedurally generating a terrain. I have it all down and it looks good, but I want to make it so that when the player hovers over the cells, it highlights. To do this, I'm trying to create an empty gameObject on top of each cell to handle those highlights, or any other colors. For debugging purposes, I'm trying to make all the gameObjects over the cells some random material, but they never show up. I'm super confused, all of my terrain is generated great, and the mesh's work, but it doesn't work for these game objects??? Ill send my fucntion in the next message

I also have another function that draws the textures for the terrain, but I don't think that should be a problem when just creating game objects? idk im confused lol pls help

void DrawTerrainMesh(Cell[,] grid) {
        Mesh mesh = new Mesh();
        List<Vector3> vertices = new List<Vector3>();
        List<int> triangles = new List<int>();
        List<Vector2> uvs = new List<Vector2>();
        
        // Loop through the grid to generate vertices, triangles, and UVs
        for (int y = 0; y < size; y++) {
            for (int x = 0; x < size; x++) {
                Cell cell = grid[x, y];
                
                // Check if the cell is not water
                if (!cell.isWater) {
                    // Create vertices for the cell
                    Vector3 a = new Vector3(x - .5f, 0, y + .5f);
                    Vector3 b = new Vector3(x + .5f, 0, y + .5f);
                    Vector3 c = new Vector3(x - .5f, 0, y - .5f);
                    Vector3 d = new Vector3(x + .5f, 0, y - .5f);
                    Vector3[] v = new Vector3[] { a, b, c, b, d, c };

                    // Create UVs for the cell
                    ...


                    // Add vertices and UVs to lists
                    ...

                    // Add a tag to the cell GameObject
                    GameObject cellObject = new GameObject("Cell_" + x + "_" + y);
                    cellObject.transform.position = new Vector3(x, 0, y); // Adjust position as needed
                    cellObject.transform.localScale = new Vector3(1f, 1f, 1f);
                    cellObject.transform.SetParent(transform); // Set the parent to your terrain object

                    // Add a tag to the cell object
                    cellObject.tag = "Land";
                    
                    // Optionally, you can add a collider to the cell object if needed
                    cellObject.AddComponent<BoxCollider>();
                    cellObject.AddComponent<MeshRenderer>();
                    cellObject.GetComponent<MeshRenderer>().material = highlightMaterial;
                }
            }
        }

        ...
    }

[deft grail]

which is the part of creating the hover

[hallow girder]

So I have a seperate script that's doing raytracing to figure out if the mouse is hovering over the game object, but I can't even get the game objects to show up in my game. Like they're all there in the hierarchy, but they dont have a mesh and are invisible

So I'm trying to really understand this game object stuff before I do the hovering

[fossil tree]

Hi i want make a game of life clone but i really dont see how i can make every square in my grid be editable like when i click on 1 square he become black how can i make that without making 500 gameobject (hope someone understand my request x))

[deft grail]

who become black, the square?

[fossil tree]

Yes

[deft grail]

you would just change the sprite/material

you change what you can instead of creating new game objects

[fossil tree]

Yes i know but they has like 500 square

[deft grail]

so what?

[fossil tree]

For making 500 square how i can without making 500 gameobject

[deft grail]

you would make 500 game objects

you would write code to create the objects and place them for you

but if your making any sort of maps, you have to create them
you cant just expect them to be done with a couple objects

[fossil tree]

This is what i want do

Every square become white when i click on

So i make a code who create all the black square ?

[deft grail]

then you just as an example you would have

void OnClick()
{
    SpriteRenderer.sprite = newSprite;
}
``` and thats all really it would take i mean if your just changing the sprite, or if you want just colour you can do that also

[rich adder]

nothing wrong with them being gameobjects

[deft grail]

well if its just one set of squares like a grid and no sort of manual look to it, then you would just use 2 for loops

[fossil tree]

Yes i know that dont worry the problem is for create the square i just want know if the only way is making a code for create the square

[deft grail]

you can manually place them also if you want?

[rich adder]

You can use tilemap but then you have less options for individual tiles data

[deft grail]

depends what specifically you are trying to do

[fossil tree]

I gonna check that ty

[rich adder]

I did this recently for a virtual guestbook, honestly went with gameobjects. It was easier

[fossil tree]

Ok but if they are so much gameobject that dont gonna impact the performance ?

[rich adder]

500 aint much

[deft grail]

wont do much, especially if there isnt a lot of action

[rich adder]

have over 1000+

[dusky pike]

Hey guys i got a rly random/weird problem.
I generated an Object in Unity. Somehow its not visible in the Szene Renderer but it is in the Game.

im pretty sure the problem is here;

The MeshFilter only gets assigned after i start the game

[deft grail]

because you do that through code?

[dusky pike]

i do

[deft grail]

so how can it be there before you run the code

[fossil tree]

Oh ok nice to know thank everyone

[dusky pike]

oh

I thought if i put it on "Awake" it would load before

[deft grail]

awake runs when the game starts

[dusky pike]

ah fucking hell

so there is no way to do that with code?

[deft grail]

you can make it so you generate with code through the editor while the game isnt running, im not sure how to do that specifically though

you need custom editor stuff i think

[dusky pike]

That makes not a lot of sense for my project tbh

but thank you

[deft grail]

yeah doesnt make sense for many projects
but once you start the game you can click the scene view and see it there if that helps

[dusky pike]

yeah, gonna do it that way i guess

[rich adder]

https://docs.unity3d.com/ScriptReference/ExecuteAlways.html

You can also just use a context menu on the generate mesh method code and it will run in editor

[dusky pike]

omg, thank you!

[rich adder]

this lets u run any function via editor right clicking menu
https://docs.unity3d.com/ScriptReference/ContextMenu.html

I use it often to generate lists, autoassign stuff before entering playmode

[dusky pike]

thank you!

[rocky canyon]

Naughty Attrib [Button()] 😈

[rich adder]

for that extra spiceee

[rocky canyon]

the only problem i have w/ it is sometimes I get editor errors.. like Null exceptions

from some hidden/ unseen part of NA

[rich adder]

yeah You can create it easily in a few seconds though and make your own attribute

I been meaning to do it but keep forgetting

[rocky canyon]

ya, i been meaning to look at the internals and see whats happening

[rich adder]

figure out the attributes part like getting the method reference and combined with GUI.Button = profit :p

https://docs.unity3d.com/ScriptReference/PropertyAttribute.html

ok yeah basically use this, grab script/method then run it thru button in a custom inspector.

[rocky canyon]

oops.. looks like I have some scripts to refactor now

[rich adder]

2022+ flex

[rocky canyon]

didn't appear until Unity6

[rich adder]

is it supposed to be more efficent or was there just naming change

[rocky canyon]

idk. i only have 1 instance.. so i use the FindAnyObject.. one

says faster so i just believe it

[rocky canyon]

i figured if it was a name change the old one just wouldnt work at all..

[rich adder]

Oh if it was just straight renaming yeah lol

[rocky canyon]

lol. ya ur right.. FindFirstObject.. thats basically what FindObject does

just realized that

[rich adder]

we cant even see the sauce code so who knows if its just the same thing in a diff name

[rocky canyon]

gotta wait for that next repo dump i guess

[vapid lintel]

Hello guys im working on AR game and since tutorials on youtube are old some things changed, how do i add an AR camera is it included in the XR origin ??

[rich adder]

the only way it would be efficient if we finally get new .net anyway lol

[ivory bobcat]

Differences relative to name:
FindObjectOfType
FindFirstObjectByType

[rocky canyon]

lol.. that raises even more questions for me

[rich adder]

I'd love to do a performance comparison but not even at workstation

[ivory bobcat]

This is the coding channel, try asking in #💻┃unity-talk or #🤯┃augmented-reality

[vapid lintel]

Ok thanks man

[rich adder]

first part done 😈
Apparently reflection was needed , but luckily unity has class built in of cached values from assembly, for better performance

[rocky canyon]

Verrry nice

i wouldn't know how to do it.. im very novice when it comes to editor scripts

[rocky canyon]

works just by including a namespace?

[rich adder]

its basically

[AttributeUsage(AttributeTargets.Method, AllowMultiple =false, Inherited =true),]
public class ButtonAttribute : PropertyAttribute
{
}
```and another class i'm doing
```cs
  var extractedMethods = TypeCache.GetMethodsWithAttribute<ButtonAttribute>();
  foreach (var m in extractedMethods)```

one problem is TypeCache is UnityEditor class only so I need to figure out how to run that function

[rocky canyon]

wheres the Alias get defined?

is it just xxxxAttribute?

[rich adder]

Yeah Attribute gets Remove ig automagically

wait no

wdym

alias?

[rocky canyon]

like [xxxxx]

[slender nymph]

now the real question is, will you actually be able to draw anything in the inspector with that without creating a custom inspector for the class

[rocky canyon]

wheres you saying Button means,

[slender nymph]

that's just how attributes work

[rich adder]

yeah like

[rocky canyon]

oh okay.. soo .TextWindowAttribute would equate to [TextWindow] ?

[slender nymph]

yes

[rocky canyon]

ahh okay gotcha 👍

[rich adder]

yeah exactly , trying to figure out how to run custominspector from attribute

[slender nymph]

i'm not 100% certain since I don't have a lot of experience with custom editors, but i don't think it would actually draw anything for the method with that attribute on it

[rocky canyon]

Im interesting in the drawing part

im more interested in the Method calling

[rich adder]

says in the Docs for PropretyAttribute

A custom attributes can be hooked up with a custom PropertyDrawer class to control how a script variable with that attribute is shown in the Inspector.

but how dammit..

[rocky canyon]

lol

[rich adder]

or just variables? how does naughty do this..might have to 👀

[rocky canyon]

cheater!

[slender nymph]

naughty attributes has a custom inspector for the MonoBehaviour class to handle that rather than using a property drawer

[rocky canyon]

lol

im going to import naughty real quick.. see if theres any issues w/ Unity6

[rich adder]

damm. this might be too much work for just a button..

lol

[rocky canyon]

probably why people just use Naughty 😉

or ur beloved context window

[rich adder]

ikr . I just dislike being at mercy of third party volatility

[slender nymph]

pretty sure naughty attributes still forces the inspector to use imgui instead of uitk

[rocky canyon]

im fine with context menu's
there is something spicy about a physical button ofc

[rich adder]

speaking of which I did find a forum post of someone doing it with uitoolkit

[rocky canyon]

i haven't even gotten around to scoping out the tk yet

[rich adder]

ah no its this
https://forum.unity.com/threads/how-to-make-attributes-to-draw-a-button-in-a-method-how-to-get-serializedproperty-value.1383171/#post-8711640
ofc in the same forum someone posted the "just use this" solution 😅
https://github.com/madsbangh/EasyButtons

[rocky canyon]

lol.. my discord be glitching 😄

[rich adder]

[rocky canyon]

ohh nice

its a less featured NA but a more customizeable Button

[rich adder]

button with parameters is kinda nice

[rocky canyon]

oh yea. thats my only complaint about Naughty's button.. which isnt a deal breaker..
b/c i usually use a public variable the Button method will use

and just populate it as i need when testing w/ a button

[rich adder]

these are only great to spend the time when you're working with Designers

[rocky canyon]

yea, more of a curiousity than a requirement

[viral creek]

how would I make it so that I have the on trigger from a hitbox but I can go through it? I am making a zombies survival 3d game but the zombies can kinda just trap you and insta kill you, I want to avoid that by the zombies allowing players to pass through but still damage them

[rocky canyon]

by marking a collider isTrigger you can pass thru it..

[deft grail]

trigger would already do that?

[rocky canyon]

instead of detecting it with OnCollisionEnter.. you just swap over to use OnTriggerEnter

[hoary yacht]

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[viral creek]

on another note

i have a script called BaseZombieScript which is a child of BaseEnemy prefab, I want to reference damage from there what would htat look like?

[deft grail]

reference damage from where to where, and what do you mean by "damage"

[viral creek]

a variable called damage from the script BaseZombieScript a child of BaseEnemy prefab, to go to the script for my player so that on trigger enter it does damage

[rocky canyon]

    private void OnTriggerEnter(Collider other)
    {
        if (other.TryGetComponent(out BaseZombieScript zombieScript))
        {
            int damageAmount = zombieScript.damage;
            Debug.Log("Damage Amount: " + damageAmount);
        }
    }```

something as so

other is the collider..
TryGet trys to get BaseZombieScript from the collider's gameobject

[viral creek]

using System.Collections;
using System.Collections.Generic;
using UnityEngine;

public class EnemyFollower : MonoBehaviour
{
    public GameObject playerPrefab;
    private Transform playerTransform;
    public int speed;
    public int health;
    public int damage;

    void Start()
    {
        damage = 1;
        health = 1;
        playerPrefab = GameObject.FindGameObjectWithTag("Player");

        if (playerPrefab == null)
        {
            Debug.LogError("Couldnt find it");
            return;
        }
        playerTransform = playerPrefab.transform;
    }

    private void Update()
    {
        FollowPlayer();
        HealthCheck();
    }

    private void FollowPlayer()
    {
        // Calculate the direction from the enemy to the player
        Vector3 directionToPlayer = playerTransform.position - transform.position;

        // Rotate the enemy to face the player
        transform.rotation = Quaternion.LookRotation(directionToPlayer);

        // Move the enemy towards the player
        transform.position += transform.forward * Time.deltaTime * speed;
    }

    private void HealthCheck()
    {
        if (health <= 0)
        {
            Destroy(gameObject);
        }
    }

    private void OnTriggerEnter(Collider other)
    {
        if (other.gameObject.tag == "Bullet")
        {
            health -= 1;
            Destroy(other.gameObject);
        }
    }
}

Base Zombie script

[rocky canyon]

damage would be a public int thats accessable

[deft grail]

#💻┃code-beginner message i mean

[viral creek]

public class PlayerHandler : MonoBehaviour
{
    //defines important numbers and such
    public int health;
    public int ammo;
    public GameObject Bullet;
    public GameObject BulletSpawn;
    private int BulletSpeed;
    private float cooldown;
    private Rigidbody bulletRigidbody;
    public int kills;
    public GameObject BaseZombie;

    // Start is called before the first frame update
    void Start()
    {
        damage = BaseZombie.GetComponent<damage>();
        BulletSpeed = 20;
        bulletRigidbody = Bullet.GetComponent<Rigidbody>();
        ammo = 100;
        kills = 0;
        health = 100;
    }

    // Update is called once per frame
    void Update()
    {
        HealthCheck();

        Shooting();

        if (bulletRigidbody != null)
        {
            Vector3 direction = transform.forward;
            bulletRigidbody.velocity = direction * BulletSpeed;
        }
    }

    private void GameOver()
    {
        Debug.Log("You Lost");
    }

    private void HealthCheck()
    {
        if (health <= 0)
        {
            GameOver();
        }
    }

    IEnumerator BulletLifespan(GameObject bullet)
    {
        yield return new WaitForSeconds(3);
        Destroy(bullet);
    }

    public void Shooting()
    {
        if (Input.GetMouseButtonDown(0) && (ammo >= 1))
        {
            ammo--;
            GameObject bullet = Instantiate(Bullet, BulletSpawn.transform.position, Quaternion.identity);
            Rigidbody rb = bullet.GetComponent<Rigidbody>();
            Vector3 direction = transform.forward;
            rb.velocity = direction * BulletSpeed;
            StartCoroutine(BulletLifespan(bullet));
        }
    }

    private void OnTriggerEnter(Collider other)
    {
        if (other.gameObject.tag == "Zombie")
        {
            health -= damage;
            Destroy(other.gameObject);
        }
    }
}

the script i want to reference from

[deft grail]

!code

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[deft grail]

and you already got the answer

[viral creek]

the script i want to reference to

[deft grail]

so idk what the code spamming is for

[rocky canyon]

another note.. instead of using other.gameObject.tag == use other.CompareTag("TagBeingUsed")

if (other.gameObject.tag == "Zombie")```
no need to even use a tag here.. if it has a script called `BaseZombieScript` then
```cs
if (other.TryGetComponent(out BaseZombieScript zombieScript))
{
         zombieScript.Foo(); // call function
         int damageAmount = zombieScript.damageAmount; // get variable
}``` would be plenty good enough..

it would act as a conditional.. (to know if you collided with zombie)
and it would automatically grab the reference to the script (so u can access variables/functions from it)

what is this?

u dont even have a variable defined for that, heres what i notice

• no damage variable declared (unknown source)
• is damage a variable from BaseZombieScript or is damage a script of its own..
• rigidbody gets assigned in start (im assuming with a prefab's rigidbody)
• it should be assigned to the new instance of the bullet after it gets instantiated (like you have now but no need to set it in Start like you have)

i also suspect that your !ide isn't configured.. since you would get errors provided the last script you sent..

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[viral creek]

i have in the zombie script a public int called damage

i just wanted to reference that int

[rocky canyon]

then it would be damage = BaseZombie.GetComponent<YourZombieScript>().damage; <-- this would Grab YourZombieScript from the gameobject you assigned to BaseZombie in ur script.. and then access the damage variable... that is if its public

[viral creek]

oh so thats how it works

thank you

i was trying to find it out online but it wasnt much help

[rocky canyon]

you dont need to do any of that tho.. you can get the damage variable From the zombie script as soon as you collide with it..

if (other.TryGetComponent(out BaseZombieScript zombieScript))
{
         int damageAmount = zombieScript.damage;
         health -= damage;
         Destroy(zombieScript.gameObject);
}```

then you could remove public GameObject BaseZombie i dont see any reason for that..

[viral creek]

is zombieScript the class name?

[rocky canyon]

same thing with ur private Rigidbody bulletRigidbody; you could just access it when you need it (each time u spawn a bullet you need that Exact bullets rigidbody

[deft grail]

BaseZombieScript is the type, zombieScript is just the name of the variable you create

[rocky canyon]

  GameObject bullet = Instantiate(Bullet, BulletSpawn.transform.position, Quaternion.identity);
  Rigidbody rb = bullet.GetComponent<Rigidbody>();```
this is good enough for that..

[deft grail]

you really dont know any basics of C# tbh, should follow a tutorial

[rocky canyon]

i agree, no hate.. but the way that script is structured, its bound to give you lots of issues

[viral creek]

so basically what i used was this

EnemyFollower enemyFollower = FindObjectOfType<EnemyFollower>();
enemyDamage = enemyFollower.damage;
``` now that i know how to pull the script

and this works

i was just trying to learn how to reference another script

if i wanted to do it simple i could have used a return damage kind of thing

[rocky canyon]

ScriptName referenceName = theObjectYourSearchingIn.GetComponent<ScriptName>();

[viral creek]

yeah thats what i figured out when you sent the thing earlier!

[rocky canyon]

GetComponent w/o a prefix would search the gameobject the script ur working in is on

[viral creek]

it was a really big help

[rocky canyon]

and the . accesses the prefix so, script.MyVariable; would access MyVariable from the script thats refrenced by the name script

good luck.. referencing scripts and variables is a big hurdle for beginners.. once it starts making sense coding gets alot easier

https://gamedevbeginner.com/how-to-get-a-variable-from-another-script-in-unity-the-right-way/ heres a good resource i go to from time to time

[viral creek]

okay thank you!

also i think this was answered earlier but i didnt quite understand, I have this model of a zombie I made and I want to be able to passthrough it but still be able to detect collision

[rocky canyon]

set it the collider to isTrigger in the collider component..

u'll automatically be able to pass thru it (hence what a trigger is)

to detect it.. Instead of OnCollisionEnter like u'd do with a hard collider
its OnTriggerEnter

the rest of the stuff is basically the same

[viral creek]

i use on trigger enter

except for some reason i still get stuck inbetween them

[rocky canyon]

you have to actually mark the collider to be a trigger

not just change the code..

the code is only detecting

[viral creek]

i mean

oh

perhaps the parent needs it?

cuz right arm left arm head and torso all have colliders but the basenemy and arms dont

[viral creek]

ye look

[rocky canyon]

each collider u want to be a trigger u have to mark every one

[viral creek]

okay so i want the arms to be a collider for damage and the torso to be collider for it to take damage from bullets

[rocky canyon]

https://docs.unity3d.com/500/Documentation/Manual/class-BoxCollider.html#:~:text=To add multiple Colliders for,being calculated on your object.

some useful tips/hints in here about using multiple colliders

probably going to have to use multiple child objects for each collider.. and possibly with tags for each type so u can evaluate what type of collider it is after you collide with it

• Torso Collider
• Limb Collider

just depends on your setup.. and how you are interacting with the colliders.. (raycasts/ collisions/ triggers etc)

[viral hemlock]

should I call rigidbody2d refrences in the start or awake function

[rocky canyon]

Awake <- Set up self
Start <- Set up others

if you're setting up references to Rigidbody2D components that other scripts might depend on, do it in the Awake function to ensure they're initialized early in the object's lifecycle

if its only important to the script itself.. then it wouldn't matter which one you did it in

[wild rivet]

when i click play my charector i added wont render

i added sprite render

and added my sprite

[rocky canyon]

is it in front of the camera?

[wild rivet]

when im in scene view i can see my charecetor

[wild rivet]

its in 2d

and its in the camara area

[rocky canyon]

sprites usually are

[wild rivet]

idk why it wont work

its super frustrating

[rocky canyon]

press play and then click the sprite and hover the scene window and press F

it should focus on the object. and you'll be able to see if its off camera for some reaosn

[wild rivet]

i tried it

but it wong work

anything else you think of?

[rocky canyon]

nope, the only thing i can think of.. and usually the case is the sprite is either on the same Z coordinate as the camera.. or its behind the camera..
and then if not.. lowering the camera's clipping plane..
when you focus on the sprite it should atleast show you in the sceneview where it is.. after you press play check both the sprites Z value and the cameras Z value

[wild rivet]

ok

[rocky canyon]

https://forum.unity.com/threads/tile-sprites-dont-appear-in-the-game-view.995194/

[wild rivet]

thx so much

it worked!

[rocky canyon]

camera usually uses a -10 z value

as long as ur sprites are > than that u'll be able to see em fine

[wild rivet]

i had to set the sprites z to 1

well keeping the camara at 0

[rocky canyon]

all good 👍

just keep an eye on the Z values if they go missing

[wild rivet]

thx so much

[viral creek]

do you know how I can make it so that my gun object from here can move up and down where the player is looking

[rocky canyon]

most times people have controllers that rotate the camera up and down.. Guns can be parented to the Camera.. and it will rotate as well.

[viral creek]

so drag the gun parent to the camera?

[rocky canyon]

if not u can write a script that can rotate up and down using the mouse..
you can also raycast from ur camera and get a hit point.. and then have the gun point at that point..

[viral creek]

the camera looks up and down fine just the gun doesnt move

[rocky canyon]

if ur camera already rotates.. u can just put the gun object as a child and it will also rotate

[viral creek]

nice

ye that worked perfect!

if (Input.GetKeyDown("escape"))
{
    Cursor.lockState = CursorLockMode.None;
}
if (Input.GetKeyDown("alt"))
{
    Cursor.lockState = CursorLockMode.Locked;
}
``` and for this how would i use left alt

just '''leftalt''' or is there a specific name?

i tried alt and it was like nuh uh i have no clue what that is

[wild rivet]

how do i assign/change the x and y position of a gameobject?

[tiny wave]

for moving in x and y, do transform.Translate(*xamount*, *yamount*, 0)
for setting it, do transform.position = otherGameObject.transform.position

[rich adder]

assign a new Vector3

[wild rivet]

ok

[rich adder]

thats not how you add a new ConstraintSource object

[rocky canyon]

you can either change the keys inside the input manager (settings)
or you can use the exact keycode.. which is https://docs.unity3d.com/ScriptReference/KeyCode.LeftAlt.html
Input.GetKeyDown(Keycode.LeftAlt);

[viral creek]

i see

i used string for left alt i think that worked

[rich adder]

create a new ConstraintSource object

[viral creek]

but if i hit escape i have to click the game again to press alt for it to work

[rocky canyon]

when you use a string "likeyouhavenow" its either defined at the top of the script.. or its using a preset in the

[rich adder]

new () creates a new object

[rocky canyon]

like Input.GetKeyDown("Fire1") that works b/c its a preset

[rich adder]

var constraint = new ConstraintSource()
{
    sourceTransform = theTransform,
    weight = 1,
};```

[rocky canyon]

or Input.GetKeyDown(Keycode.LeftCtrl);

Input.GetMouseButtonDown(0);

[rocky canyon]

thats a built in feature of Unity.. that wouldn't happen in a Built version of the game

[viral creek]

ight thanks

[rocky canyon]

i usually use an alternative for Escape until im done working in the editor

back-tick works great

[safe hull]

idk if i'm saying this right, but I want to set the tile at a position in a tilemap based on perlin noise(last part is done). I have no idea how to get the tile and set it though

can anyone offer help?

I don't understand how to get use x and y to then get a tile from the tilemap and set it to a different tile based on the value the perlin noise returns for that position

[rich adder]

Custom tiles most likely

[safe hull]

more research! I can't wait. . .

[rich adder]

for changing tiles
https://docs.unity3d.com/ScriptReference/Tilemaps.Tilemap.SetTile.html

[safe hull]

world.SetTile(What do I do here?);

I have this

but the issue is you have to input a tile

and I don't know how to get the tile

wait

[rich adder]

you dont have tiles in your project folder?

they are just assets
public Tile tile
you can drag one in the inspector for example

[safe hull]

nvm

does a ruleTile work?

[rich adder]

haven't played too much with rule tiles, just scriptabletiles (basically the same tiletype usually)

[safe hull]

alright

[rich adder]

this blogpost might be able to help you out
https://blog.unity.com/engine-platform/procedural-patterns-you-can-use-with-tilemaps-part-1

[safe hull]

alright

I got it working

[edgy prism]

When I use List.Count does my count start at 0 for example if I have a list with 5 elements the count is 4 or does it start at 1?

[deft grail]

starts at 1

[edgy prism]

Ok thankyou very much

[gaunt ice]

index start at 0, count start at 1

[deft grail]

you can check that with a Debug.Log

[gaunt ice]

or 0 if the list has nothing

[inland latch]

Hi does anyone know if there's a way to simulate lag in unity? i want to simulate lag to test how well my game handles it etc, but i can't find anything online about this. is there a simple way to do it in unity? i know there's the frame step but that isn't exactly what i want, does it have to be done in code by limiting the framerate?

[strong wren]

Network lag can be be simulated with https://github.com/jagt/clumsy on Windows.

[inland latch]

what about just general lag from single player games?

[wintry quarry]

Single player games don't experience "lag"

If you mean a framerate/performance issue, you can use Thread.Sleep

[inland latch]

isn't that lag?

[wintry quarry]

No

Lag is a network term

[inland latch]

how do i use thread.sleep?

[wintry quarry]

You just call it

And it waits as many milliseconds as you ask it to

[eternal needle]

You wont really get the results you want by doing this though

[gaunt ice]

thread.sleep will sleep the whole editor iirc

[wintry quarry]

I don't really understand what the point of such an exercise would be

[inland latch]

im trying to make a rhythm game and it uses timescale for the beat etc, and im trying to make sure that lag etc doesn't cause it to come out of sync

[wintry quarry]

You mean low framerate

[inland latch]

or sorry, "framerate/performance issue"

[wintry quarry]

Use thread.sleep

[teal viper]

If you're trying to optimize your game, you should test and profile it on target platform/hardware and use the profiler data to optimize it if needed.

[wintry quarry]

You can use a random range if you wish or put it behind a button press

Or Application.targetFramerate

[strong wren]

These are fine ways to test how logic behaves at different framerates, but this isn't a way to test performance in general.

[inland latch]

im not trying to test performance in general more how my game handles lag spikes which doesn't always mean the game has bad performance

frame dips*

[teal viper]

These are performance issues

The solution is not to have lag spikes in your game.

[inland latch]

so if someone decides to suddenly extract a zip bomb mid game it means my game has a performance issue

[strong wren]

Hooking Thread.Sleep to input or Random will probably do the job then

[viral creek]

when I turn is trigger on my capsule collider for my player to on it sinks through the floor, how can i prevent this

[deft grail]

dont make it a trigger

[wintry quarry]

Don't make your collider a trigger

[deft grail]

and do you know what trigger even is? or are you just doing things randomly still

[viral creek]

it needs to be tho for my player to detect collision with the enemy

[wintry quarry]

It seems you don't understand what a trigger is

A trigger doesn't physically collide with things

That's the point

[viral creek]

oh i see

so on collision would work better?

but when i did that earlier my player would get stuck inbetween zombies and not be able to move

[deft grail]

it wouldnt "work better", it would make it work

[coarse frost]

I got bullets with rigidbodys I want to make it so that they dont interact with each other but they interact with everything else

[wintry quarry]

Maybe separate colliders for platforming and for enemy interaction then

[deft grail]

turn of the collision between them in the layer matrix

[rich adder]

do layer based collision

[viral creek]

would using raycast be the better option here?

[coarse frost]

alright ty

[deft grail]

what would that change

[viral creek]

for collision between my player and zombies

[deft grail]

your still going into your player

[wintry quarry]

Layer based collision detection is what you and @viral creek both need

[rich adder]

that will not help

[viral creek]

i see

will my pill still collide even though its collider isnt a trigger?

[summer stump]

It WILL collider BECAUSE it is not a trigger.
Triggers do not collide physically

[viral creek]

OH WAIT I SEE

triggers is for passing through objects

but detecting collisions works great for non passing through

but what if i get trapped between them they just constantly drain hp and theres no way of getting out

[deft grail]

#💻┃code-beginner message

been said 3 times already

[viral creek]

okay im sorry im like extremely slow

[rich adder]

that would make you phase through them

[viral creek]

on collision would?

i thought you just said that triggers what makes passthrough

[deft grail]

again, OnCollision OnTrigger Raycast, does ABSOLUTELY nothing for the collision

[viral creek]

okay

[rich adder]

if you disable collisions betwen layers (player/enemy) they wont collide

[viral creek]

i understand that

how would i disable the layer collisions

and put them on different layers?

its a 3d game

[deft grail]

https://docs.unity3d.com/Manual/LayerBasedCollision.html

[gaunt ice]

the physics engin will handle all "overlap events" for all colliders (but the callback depends on the rb/layer)

[coarse frost]

if i want a bullet (OnCollision) to bounce off a wall do both need rigidbodies or can i remove it from the wall? they both already have colliders

[deft grail]

the wall doesnt need it

that doesnt make sense

[wintry quarry]

You need a Rigidbody basically for anything that moves

If it doesn't move, it doesn't need one

[frosty lantern]

my bad, everything is in vector3int

from the moment I saw there was an int version I used it for essentially everything except worldpace transforms

[abstract finch]

I saw this done one time but forgot how, how would I be able to predefine an animation curve to be Linear?

[teal viper]

Does this not work?

[abstract finch]

ah nvm it does but i still would like to know if I could predefine what type of curve it is

[teal viper]

There are no types of curves. The curve is generated from the key frames.

[teal viper]

Though there seem to be a static method that provides a linear curve as a shortcut. Check the API docs.

[abstract finch]

thanks

[frosty lantern]

So I seem to be able to capture the king, but it's not calling the hidden method. do I need to ensure I am calling the king script that inherits from shesspiece or smth?

[timber tide]

Hidden method?

if you're doing new on a derived method it's probably breaking polymorphic relations if you're calling it as a less derived type

[slender nymph]

you need to mark the base class's method(s) as virtual and override the method and call its base implementation if you want that behavior. right now you are hiding the base class's method which means for all intents and purposes it does not exist when interacting with that object as the derived class

[safe hull]

@rich adder I did your method and I found that the textures weren't lining up properly. any idea why?

[frigid sequoia]

I am kinda messing with the camera of my game now cause I not sure if I am really happy with it just floating on top of the player for a cenital view. So I am trying something more typical 3rd person behind your back. And now I am wondering... how the heck do I make the inputs now relative to the camara position?

[safe hull]

I tried mirroring and rotating it and it didn't do anything

[frigid sequoia]

Is this just by parenting or how?

[safe hull]

wait nevermind it started happening with my other tile as well

[frosty lantern]

Thanks I'll fix that

[odd mason]

does anyone know what im doing wrong? trying to get the "elevator" the square thing to detect when its overlapping with object with the despawn tag and its just not working, even though i think i setup everything right, i know it isnt working cause yeah it isnt logging the yousuck string

[summer stump]

I see no trigger collider

also no rigidbody

Both are required for OnTrigger messages

[odd mason]

hm alright mustve missed that where i found this thank you

[frigid sequoia]

Passing this again just cause I see it so usefull for these cases

[rocky canyon]

Kinematic RB will cause a collision event w/ a regular RB? interesting

[slender nymph]

yeah, it's the dynamic rb that sends the collision event there

modding discussions are not permitted here

[iron steeple]

Hey im making a movement physics based and i wonder which is the best at handling movement in general and overall

[charred spoke]

There is no best, each movement solution eventually hets fined tuned to the specific game it is meant for

[timber tide]

grab yourself a kinematic character controller and start developing your own

[iron steeple]

What do you guys usually use for general use physics movement

I do not know how many ways to move the character using physics

Could you tell me a few that usually used

[timber tide]

rigidbody is the full packaged physics controller provided by unity, otherwise you have the character controller (which surprisingly is more common to see in unity's templated projects) which has a few physical component integrations, but gives you more freedom to append your own physics logic to it.

There's also kinematic rigidbody controller which I'd say is similar to the character controller, but more tied to unity's physics system.

they both have different APIs for the most part kinematic rigidbody will still use the related rigidbody methods for movement

And then there's this custom character controller which I've heard good things about:
https://assetstore.unity.com/packages/tools/physics/kinematic-character-controller-99131

[blissful spindle]

https://hatebin.com/tjdqlcmhvd Hi, this is my weapon script in my game and I want to implement some kind of weaponbobing so it moves up and down when I am walking, can someone please help me with that?

[timber tide]

If your weapon sway is working there, why don't you migrate some of that logic over

[blissful spindle]

I tried but the problem was that it just didnt work idk why I could try again tho and then ask I guess that would be proppably smarter 😄

[timber tide]

AngleAxis does seem like a good idea here, and you probably want to move it up and down the x axis (tilt)

maybe some z for the roll

[blissful spindle]

yes... I will add some kind of rotation to it too

[blissful spindle]

yep

[blissful spindle]

well I will try and then come back when I am stuck

[timber tide]

I think you'd probably want to use slerp here too considering you're working with quaternion rotations

https://docs.unity3d.com/ScriptReference/Vector3.RotateTowards.html
This would also provide constant rotation speed if you prefer that

Er I mean the quaternion method:
https://docs.unity3d.com/ScriptReference/Quaternion.RotateTowards.html

[young fossil]

Hi. So currently my design looks a bit like this:

• Scene.cs are scripts that deal with specific functions inside each scene. (Example, MainMenu.cs PlayAdventureMode() )
• MenuUI.cs / GameplayUI.cs are scripts associated with the game state that handle UI functions. (Example, healthbar changes, button press noises) Main menu has a MenuUI.cs but not a GameplayUI.cs for example.
• AudioManager.cs manages audio sources aka creating, setting values, etc and puts them through AudioMixers.

So currently my AudioManager has a .Play() method which is called in Scene.cs and MenuUI.cs scripts.

Would it be better to have a SoundPlayer.cs script which deals with audio, then those other scripts depend on it?

[topaz mortar]

bawsi you around? I'd like to talk about designing a good client/server interaction that prevents cheating, but is also fast
my currently implementation is pretty slow, we talked about it a bit the other day

[nimble apex]

how to print list or array or any collections without iterating and concatting any values inside the collection

like calling a toString() and everything is printed nicely

which tostring() isnt working here

[gaunt ice]

impossible, even you own toString() need to iterate the whole collection
you can use debugger or format it by json

[young fossil]

Don't get what you mean? You want to print all index of an array without iteration?

[nimble apex]

yeah

json

it works

[nimble apex]

lets say List<string> list

list[0] = "Apple"
list[1] = "Orange"

if you ever trying to look up any printing tutorial for unity, u will notice stackoverflow teach you by concatting and iterating the whole collection and then debug log the value out

which is really trobulesome and time wasting

but theres really a way, without having to iterate anything inside the collection, just by calling a function and it does magic

 ["100-10000","150-15000"]```

[young fossil]

Not sure how concatting is required there? Unless you want a message next to it?

As for iteration, yes it needs to happen. You can't just say "hey array, print out the whole thing" to my understanding

[nimble apex]

or

["Apple","Orange"]```

[nimble apex]

you can

[young fossil]

How then?

[nimble apex]

you serialize the whole collection into json, unity treats all serialized json stream as string, thats why u can print them all out

[young fossil]

There you go, it's a specific unity API. Usually it wouldn't be possible

[nimble apex]

yeah i just forgot it

[young fossil]

Just so you know that isn't printing values, it is parsing the c sharp to json. So it doesn't read any values apart from the written text

[nimble apex]

its enough, i just want to see what value does the collection has

[young fossil]

bump

[blissful spindle]

https://hatebin.com/iqqriyqoyd this is what I come up with but its all wrong I am not sure what to do cus it needs to go up and down not just up so how do I change tha trayectory YK I am just lost

[blissful spindle]

also it needs to have a transform which I dont want to have I want to make it whole code made

can someone help me with this please?

[blissful spindle]

well if someone wants to help me just respond to my message I will be online again in like 3 hours from now THX

[tawdry nymph]

Does anyone know why this code returns pretty much the 32 bit integer limit, dropppoint: x: 2147483647 y: -2147483642

    private int x;
    private int y;
    private RectTransform Rect;
    void Start()
    {
        Rect = gameObject.GetComponent<RectTransform>();
        x = (int)(transform.position.x / Rect.rect.width) - 1;
        y = 6 - (int)((transform.position.y - Rect.rect.height) / Rect.rect.height);
        Debug.Log(transform.name + ": x: " + x + " y: " + y);
    }

[eternal needle]

debug what each value is, shouldnt be hard to find the culprit after a few seconds of debugging. Also what you're doing there seems weird, dividing a position by the rect dimensions

[tawdry nymph]

it is on multiple objects and i want to get values for a 6 by 12 grid

[eternal needle]

still, debug what each value is. itll be clear once you see the math being done

[tawdry nymph]

it returns 0 for the width and height for some reason

[young fossil]

bump, please give me advice if anyone knows

I want to know, if I make some scripts that handle different components of the engine, example: Sounds, UI, Animation, etc... Can I then use events to decouple them?

[eternal needle]

probably something about the canvas or ui not updating yet

[young fossil]

An example is like an event/listener in UI then the Sound and Scene.cs methods subscribe to it

[tawdry nymph]

yeah ill just fill it in myself since those values shouldnt change anyways

[fierce shuttle]

I dont see why you wouldnt be able to use events to decouple your logic, though it seems like AudioManager is already your highest-level controller, so splitting that further into a "SoundManager" sounds like repeating a lot fo what SoundManager already does

[whole idol]

yo guys, what happened to ProGrids in Unity 2024

[eternal needle]

i just saw this, but im definitely not the best to ask in this. your best bet is probably google or the #archived-networking peeps as i stopped doing multiplayer. I know ngo also has the network profiler, so you can see whats taking awhile to do.

[whole idol]

I got unity 2022 right?

[young fossil]

Yep I see your point. I am over engineering it by creating that script I guess. It feels a bit weird that the Audio methods are referenced everywhere though... Do you think it is okay?

[whole idol]

Im trying to find out how the whole Grid thing works

does anyone know why I dont got the ProGrids thing on my window panel?

[young fossil]

I don't mind revising my design if the event approach is better

[eternal needle]

this isnt a code question

[young fossil]

It really depends on what is the most decoupled and practiced

[fierce shuttle]

At some point in your chain, a script is going to need to reference something, I often put those higher level systems into a namespace, it helps for organization, but also gives me a second moment to think "does this script REALLY need this system? If I have to go through the effort of referencing it, that means it depends on this namespace... Does it need to or is it trying to do too much?" - though I dont think in your use case an audio reference would be "doing too much", though I think events do sound like a good idea (maybe a bit bias, as I tend to use events to communicate between a lot of systems like UI and gameplay)

[young fossil]

So referring to your first sentence: relying entirely on an event based design is unrealistic?

Not that I intend to do it... Just considering every option

[fierce shuttle]

I wouldnt say "unrealistic", events are used in many projects, though at some point youll have to have a class reference something specific, even if you have global events/broadcasters, some script will need to reference those global classes, or pass data/objects through events for another system to respond correctly

Another option you could explore are interfaces, though I find they can be a bit tricky to understand and implement effectively, but it can allow a system to become multiple systems, like a IAudioListener, or a IMenuManager, if your various audio implementations/menus have more-or-less the same code in a different flavor

[young fossil]

Could you expand a bit on the Interface solution? Also thank you massively for the help

I use Interface for my gameplay implementation

So it should be easy to understand if you could just expand a bit

[fierce shuttle]

Say you had functionality that would be similar in pretty much every menu you make, like public void ToggleUI(bool fadeIn), you could have that in a IMenu interface, and for everything that needs to act like a menu, it can inherit for example MainMenu : MonoBehaviour, IMenu, CharacterSelect : MonoBehaviour, IMenu, etc - some other system can just call IMenu.ToggleUI(true); and have that character, or main menu or whatever fade in, but that same menu could also have IAudioListener if it has common logic with playing audio or subscribing to something audio based, your audio manager could call IAudioListener.Play() without needing to know if its coming from a main menu, a character select page, etc, though in that specific example, it could be overkill compared to an event in your audio manager that other scripts can subscribe/unsubscribe themselves with

[quaint anchor]

Hello was just curious, I'm currently attempting to make a small game where projectiles are fired at a player and the player has to slash to destroy them, I have set up the projectile's behaviour alongside given the player an attack but have no idea how to go about spawning the projectile itself and laso randomising the spawn to say spawn 3 back to back and then maybe like 1 every second, could anyone help?

[young fossil]

Thanks!!

[queen adder]

hi there, i creating a game, for a school project, and i need help with adding a door, i want to add a door, and when i get close to it, it says " Press E to exit", and if we pressed the game end, i am new using unity, so i dont know how to do that, any help is welcome.

[burnt mantle]

Use google , or youtube "Unity create door" you have some good tutorial

[queen adder]

thank youu

[nimble apex]

in unity, UI will register an event , or listen to an event and call certain functions to do stuffs

onclick is an intrinsic event given , but can you invoke onclick by script, not clicking on the UI?

oh you can, NICE

[eternal needle]

This projectile sounds like it can easily be a rigidbody with a collider, then spawn it and launch it by either setting velocity or using addforce.
As for spawning them in intervals, you either use update and keep track of a timer or use a coroutine

[quaint anchor]

ive given the collider a rigidbody with a collider

how would i go about spawning them and using addforce? im new to unity so have no idea how to do this

[eternal needle]

You would make a prefab for the object, then reference that prefab from a script. You can directly reference the rigidbody component from the prefab instead of the GameObject. When you instantiate it, it will return the rigidbody, which you can call the addForce method on

You also dont have to use rigidbody motion, since I see you are directly moving its position.

[quaint anchor]

oh is that not necessary ?

[eternal needle]

The rigidbody is needed if you want it to have collision with walls and such

[quaint anchor]

okay i see, well currently the only collision it would need to have is with the player or the player's hit

since if it collides with the player the player takes damage

or if its slashed by the players weapon its deleted and adds a score to their score counter

[celest holly]

rigidbodies give the projectile physics if u want that too though

makes them more realistic

[quaint anchor]

I'm getting this error but im not too sure what it means, this is the line that it takes me to in the players combat script

[burnt vapor]

This is a common c# error indicating you tried to invoke logic on a variable that is null

So you should take a look at this line and figure out what could be null

Hint: it can only be one thing

[quaint anchor]

the get component ?

[burnt vapor]

How would you figure out if it is?

[quaint anchor]

probably because i copy pasted code from another enemy with the component named Enemy and forgot to change the line of dialogue LOL

[burnt vapor]

Perhaps

[quaint anchor]

am i able to have more than one of those lines ?

[burnt vapor]

One way to figure it out would be logging if component == null https://unity.huh.how/debugging/logging/how-to

[burnt vapor]

One of those lines?

[quaint anchor]

like this

[burnt vapor]

I don't know what you mean

[quaint anchor]

since i have these two that i want the player to be able to hit

but currently my code is only accounting for the enemy ocmponent

[burnt vapor]

If you want to access the enemy component it must be part of the enemy gameobject you use here

I should correct myself, two things can be null here

So please take a step back and start logging #💻┃code-beginner message

Because not only the component can be null, the enemy variable can also be null

This is the very first thing you should be figuring out

[quaint anchor]

im confused where the log goes? just in the line above ?

[burnt vapor]

Yes, definitely before the code or it will not trigger because of the exception

[quaint anchor]

right

im confused exactly what i should be logging though ? since the code works fine when trying to attack the enemy object just not the projectile object

[burnt vapor]

First log enemy, then log enemy.GetComponent<Enemy>();

Debug.Log(enemy);

[quaint anchor]

so like that

[burnt vapor]

Yes

Note there will be another exception popping up if enemy is null but the whole point is figuring this out anyway

[quaint anchor]

oaky well when i run nothing comes up in the console

just the same error

[burnt vapor]

Try Debug.Log(enemy == null)

[burnt vapor]

So the second one is null, which means the call for the component is null

This means the enemy variable you are using doesn't have an Enemy script attached

[quaint anchor]

okay right yes that might be the issue

i dont exactly want it to hav ethe same script though as I want to make adjustments to the enemy's health without changing the current script

ah wait i think i was being stupid this whole time

yeah okay so if I attach the enemy script it should work now

[burnt vapor]

Yeah it always needs that, I'm not sure what you tried to do

Note if the component is optional you can also use GetComponent and then check if it's null

[quaint anchor]

I was trying to create a seperate script using the enemy script's code since they'd have the same properties just altered a little

[burnt vapor]

The exception is only thrown if you actually apply logic to a null variable

[quaint anchor]

right

[burnt vapor]

I'm confused. If you want different properties then why not expose some variables in the inspector to adjust from there?

[stuck palm]

Does timescale= 0 stop coroutines?

[quaint anchor]

im extremely new to unity so kinda just learning through tutorials and just testing about so im not too certain on what works and what doesnt

[burnt vapor]

Yes, I think it does, but why not try this?

[gaunt ice]

stop wait for second

[burnt vapor]

I see, consider looking up SerializeField at some point and see how you can expose variables in the component inspector

[stuck palm]

I'm not at a computer right now so I just wanted to ask for when I get back

[hexed terrace]

https://www.google.com/search?q=does+unity+coroutine+use+timescale&oq=does+unity+coroutine+use+timescale

[quaint anchor]

I have ran into another issue though which is that im no longer getting the error but for some reason it appears as if theres no collision with it

[burnt vapor]

It definitely did because the exception is being thrown

But my guess is that TakeDamage has no effect?

[quaint anchor]

TakeDamage has an effect on the other enemy i was testing out on earlier so if im using the same script should it not function the same ?

[jaunty coyote]

idk if im stupid or what but why does does return an empty array? **
Collider[] hitColliders = Physics.OverlapSphere(Vector3.zero, 1000);** scene is set up fully empty with just a default box collider cube at 0,0,0

[burnt vapor]

Well if you suspect it's not called then try the same logging technique, but instead see if it's logs in general to confirm it actually runs

[hexed terrace]

have the cube toggled off , press play.. then enable the cube and see if it's found then. Other than that, we can't tell you because this single line isn't enough information to know what's wrong.

[young fossil]

Hey guys, I do have another design question: what is the best way of finding scripts in the scene.

• FindObjectsByType/FindObjectsOfType, for this I have only been using for singletons. Still, I know it is slow and although I used sparingly am aiming for lower-end devices so want to replace it completely.
• GetComponet with SerializeField and drag and drop inspector. This way seems to be the most intended although I run into issues. If there are multiple scripts of many types, it can be confusing to go through all of them and attach relevant scripts

One "solution" to this problem is to use the Drag&DropInspector->SerializeField->GetComponent way but instead attaching all scripts used in the current scene inside a "management" gameobject, then you reference that single script.

Want to hear other's opinions on it, or if you have a video/resource please share it

[jaunty coyote]

yep, still doesnt detect, but what more info do you need?

[hexed terrace]

https://unity.huh.how/references

afaik - singletons aren't slow..

[hexed terrace]

the setup and more code..

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[young fossil]

Oh okay coool, so your approach is predominantly serialized references. How do you deal with missing references after changing the reference inside the script though? Also, it relies on the editor's inspector to remember and store the references which I have previously had lots of references lost from minor changes to scripts

[jaunty coyote]

figured it our, had a bigger code problem

[young fossil]

I wish Unity supported the rename feature in Visual Studio

Because you make a reference and then have to change the name, then you're caught with a bunch of missing reference errors

[young fossil]

It could be dependency injection that I'm looking for then

Still run into the inspector problems though. Unless there is a way I'm using the inspector wrong?...

[strong wren]

You can also inject dependencies through code, which would just be setting references and/or calling methods with the dependencies/data as parameters.

[young fossil]

In your experience, what is your preferred way of referencing? Let's say you have AudioManager and you need to play a sound in PlayerEffects, how would you go about it?

[languid spire]

tbh if you find yourself frequently having to rename classes it means you are not designing your systems you are just making them up as you go along and that is what is causing your problems

[young fossil]

Yes, you are correct in the fact I do not plan every single field/property in advanced. Although, I do UML diagrams of the design, even then, names change, systems grow. You can't be telling me that the flexibility is not a big advantage

[strong wren]

Recently I've been injecting almost everything. I use inspector serialization when available, then drop down to code based injection when needed.

[young fossil]

Is your method of dependency injection the same as this

Does the DI prevent the issue with the inspector I am adressing too?

[strong wren]

Yes.

[young fossil]

Thanks, I'll try it out!

[strong wren]

Initializing through code allows you to pass scene references to runtime instantiated objects.

[strong wren]

Oh, this shouldn't happen at all. You should be able to rename stuff without things breaking

[young fossil]

Wait, how?!

[languid spire]

rename the script file in Unity then rename the class name in VS

[fervent mulch]

Hi, chatgbt told me use Rigidbody or CharacterController for zombie movement, but i want ask you which one is better? (i use rigidbody rn)

[strong wren]

It should work out of the box. Unity uses IDs stored in .meta files to handle those references.
Make sure your !ide is configured?

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[strong wren]

Renaming in VS should work fine too

[young fossil]

Just tested, it removes the reference 💀

[languid spire]

no it wont because the .meta file will not be renamed

[strong wren]

Make sure to use the rename functionality

[hexed terrace]

It does. Ctrl+R+R on a class name changes the file name

[strong wren]

Oh wow, it actually doesn't seem to work

[wintry quarry]

In Rider when you rename a Unity serialized field it automatically adds [FormerlySerializedAs] which avoids this issue

[young fossil]

That is unbelievable

Every project I've done in Unity, we have used VS exclusively

[hexed terrace]

Oh you meant renaming a variable. Yeah, use the attribute Prae said

[young fossil]

So... What is the solution here?... Because the whole point of renaming references is usually to improve readability when refactoring, so if that effort is countered with the time waste of dragging the script back again, what is the solution

I care about performance so to avoid Find() and other similar methods, but I also care about time efficiency as a developer

And yea, you could say "get Rider" but that fixes the issue for a single person in potentially a group of other members

[wintry quarry]

The other members get to manually add the attribute 😉

I think - without question - it's the responsibilty of the developer who does the rename to fix the references afterwards.

If you use the attribute that still can look like a process of:

• Rename (with attribute)
• Reimport/Re-save all assets that have that reference so they get the new serialized name
• Remove the attribute

Rider of course has another useful feature here in that it tells you exactly where in your Unity project serialized fields have saved values

So that makes it easy to track down all the assets that need to change

Sorry if this is sounding more and more like a Rider advertisement

[young fossil]

I am hooked. Though I thought it was subscription?

[wintry quarry]

It is not free

unless you're a student

[young fossil]

Seems like the most supported IDE

[young fossil]

Any student?

[wintry quarry]

I think so?

Idk, I just pay for it. Well worth it in my eyes

[karmic kindle]

Is this the right place to ask about camera problems?

[young fossil]

Does it work well with C++?

[wintry quarry]

If it's camera code

[brave compass]

And gets significantly cheaper the longer you stay subscribed (to an annual subscription)

[wintry quarry]

Rider is for C#. They have CLion for C++

[shell sorrel]

Rider is for C++ as well

[wintry quarry]

Is it?

[shell sorrel]

CLion for Cmake C++

[wintry quarry]

Oh you're right

[shell sorrel]

RIder for vs soultion C++

[wintry quarry]

https://www.jetbrains.com/cpp/#choose-the-tool

Ok then yes

[shell sorrel]

so Rider for C++ on windows

Clion for cross platform or mac/linux since its all cmake

[karmic kindle]

No matter what values I set for BoundsX/Y/Z, the camera will still move, but it works for ZoomBounds - https://hatebin.com/ibgwmenuuk

[young fossil]

Ugh... Well anyway thanks guys. I'm happy I learned that attirbute exists at least

Also does Ride work well for Unreal

[strong wren]

My current Unity instance wasn't handling type renames for whatever reason, but yes, it does work.
@languid spire .meta file is also renamed with the ID intact.

[wintry quarry]

Your code is only clamping position when using the mouse. Not when using wasd

[wintry quarry]

no idea on that part I'm afraid

[strong wren]

Yes, variable names do need the attribute when renaming, but type renames can be done as is with the renaming functionality.