🔀┃art-asset-workflow

[potent wraith]

You could write a simple automation script.

[fading vortex]

I've googled around looking for examples without too much luck. This almost falls under modding, because were this to be possible, it would allow users to drag/drop spritemaps into a folder and have unity dynamically import them as new assets.

Which is something I also looked into without too much luck, heh

For example when I drag/drop a subset of frames into the editor to make an animation file - I don't know what APIs would be needed to handle that.

[potent wraith]

That's definitely possible. The editor api basically allows you to perform any manual operation via code. You just need to know what exactly should be done.

[fading vortex]

Good to know. I've been kind of surprised there aren't more resources or guides for modding type stuff, which would have clued me into this. Seems the preferred route is more... force folk to DL unity and use it to make asset packs for your game.

[potent wraith]

A custom editor class would allow hooking to various ui events related to it, like drag and drop. At which point you would be able to retrieve the selected or dropped objects, cast them to whatever type you're interested and retrieve data, create new objects, assets, etc...

It's modding. It's called editor scripts. And you'd basically look at the api docs for that.

[fading vortex]

Ok

[potent wraith]

Could start here I guess:
https://docs.unity3d.com/6000.2/Documentation/ScriptReference/Editor.html

[fading vortex]

Well I mean, I've written extensive editor expansions.

[potent wraith]

Proper gamedev studios usually have people specializing in editor scripting specifically for the purpose of creating such tools.

[fading vortex]

A map editor and I often batch-script other shortcuts like filling arrays and generating organized data.

I just don't know the APIs for sprite/animation manipulation well enough at this point.

[potent wraith]

Well, then you just need to look up this api in the docs. Either search through it manually, or ask AI chatbot for api that could be relevant, then look through it's docs.

[fading vortex]

Amazing. I guess ChatGPT got familiar with this since I last asked. It did the whole thing in seconds and it worked w/o needing to change a thing? We're so cooked lol

Even in my day job, I try to be judicious in my use of it. Figured it was still dumb regarding this. Apparently not.

[late geyser]

Testing a WIP feature for my addon. Parallel COACD convex hull collision generation. It can work pretty well even for a building in a pinch, but you do need to split the building into alot of pieces first.
https://ultikynnys.github.io/Blender-CoACD-page/images/COACDExamples/Buildingex1.mp4

It definitely has sped up my workflow, I used to do most of my convex hull modeling by hand

[misty lantern]

Impressive but note that this channel is for questions and discussion about asset integration into Unity
There are showcase channels but they are for Unity stuff likewise

[late geyser]

ah sorry, thanks for the clarification.

[merry nimbus]

Hi, I'm trying to import a psb file with a bunch of sprites each in its own layer group so that I can use it like a sprite sheet. However, when imported into Unity using the psb importer, I'm unable to slice all my sprites into equal sizes because unity ignores the empty spaces. Is there a way to make them be equally spaced in the sprite editor or do I have to just them out into a sprite sheet in photoshop manually? Any help would be appreciated 🙂 (I'm using unity 6)

[misty lantern]

Do they need to be equal sizes?
In this case it likely only matters that the pivot is positioned correctly per slice to retain their original relative position

[merry nimbus]

Got it working now, thanks!

[lethal laurel]

Hi, I have a rigged and animated 3d asset made in blender and exported as an FBX into unity composed of different meshes. Is it possible to use the skinned meshes I have imported inside a prefab that already has the logic instead of adding the logic to the imported fbx?

[lethal laurel]

for some reason I can only see the bones in the hierarchy and not in the project files

[compact summit]

so i recently heard that mesh tessellation can optimize meshes by reducing the poly count in areas of your vision were u can't see the geometry in the first place but keeping the geometry at or near the silluette where u can see the sides of geometry high poly, now that sounds great but wouldn't that mess up the shading where the high and low poly geometry meet?

[potent wraith]

I don't think tessellation can reduce details. It can only add details or keep it unchanged.

[hoary kindle]

If you mean it would cause seams between different tessellation levels as needs to be taken into account usually when implementing terrain chunking (with LODs) yourself, it seems to be taken into account already by the graphics api. Some example figures of tessellated geometry on Metal can be seen here: https://metalbyexample.com/tessellation/. Most likely other graphics apis uses the same or similar pattern

[plush jolt]

does unity have an easy way to render outlines for objects?

i followed a tutorial . but the mesh creates a double inverted mesh which will become expensive since i am using it on a slightly complex character.

there must a simpler alternative.

[misty lantern]

No

[potent wraith]

Well, you'll need to render it twice regardless. Even if you do screen space outlines, you need to render a mask.

[misty lantern]

Not really
Inverted hull is probably the simplest to implement

Or rather is the simplest if you don't consider grabbing an outline asset that does it with no extra steps on your part

[potent wraith]

Thankfully, you don't have to use a complex material for the second pass. So you're mostly paying in vertex shader time.

[misty lantern]

Vertices are relatively cheap
More likely you'd compare the cost of worse SRP batching due to swapping shaders from mesh to mesh during rendering versus rendering a wholly another pass and compositing it
Depends on how many objects there are

[potent wraith]

Probably the only way to avoid it, is screen space with stencil in your actual material. But it's still a second draw in screen space.

[potent wraith]

Yeah, I wouldn't worry about the cpu side at all if it's just a handful of outlines objects

[plush jolt]

the asset is slightly complex

and also the outline is kinda not working correctly

it seems to be scaling from the center of the character rather than the pivot. Is there a way to change it?

[hoary kindle]

That is exactly what multiplying the object space coordinates do which only works for very primitive meshes like cubes or spheres. One other common way to offset the outline is to move each vertex along the normals. That often works decently well for more complex geometry, flat shaded geometry being an obvious exception. Moving along the normals would mean this: objSpacePos = objSpacePos + objSpaceNormal * thickness

[plush jolt]

i somewhat understand that statement. but i wish i understood how to implement this. i have 0 shader knowledge.

[hoary kindle]

What you are currently doing is objSpacePos = objSpacePos * thickness (Outline Scale). The shader graphs are evaluated kind of backwards from right to left (the positioning of the nodes don't actually matter, only how you connect them). You are basically setting the position to a multiplication between the position and some outline scale variable. What you want to do instead is set the position instead to an addition between the position, and multiplication between Normal (https://docs.unity3d.com/Packages/com.unity.shadergraph@7.1/manual/Normal-Vector-Node.html) and some thickness variable.

[plush jolt]

so i tried adding obj.pos and obj.normal geo and then multiplying it with the scale

[hoary kindle]

You have the right nodes, only the order is wrong now. Now you do objSpacePos = (objSpacePos + objSpaceNormal) * thickness. I should have probably used the parentheses there to make it more clear but basically the two nodes coming to Add are added together first in shader graph. It doesn't have any idea of the order of operations in the overall expression

Basically when you connect another node via line, only the value from the node on the left will be transferred through that line to the right. This means that the value of the node on the left (and any nodes that are connected to that node) must be evaluated before the node on the right is evaluated. The Add node for example takes in 2 lines, which means the values from the nodes these two lines come from are evaluated before the results are added up

[open vine]

@plush jolt this might be of interest to you https://ameye.dev/notes/easiest-outline-in-unity/ it should make the outline look a bit better. For a technical explanation on the shader I would recommend this article: https://www.videopoetics.com/tutorials/pixel-perfect-outline-shaders-unity/ or this one https://ameye.dev/notes/rendering-outlines/#vertex-extrusion

[misty lantern]

The geometry used for rendering the outline doesn't necessarily have to be the same as the character itself
If there's a lot of polygons that don't contribute to object silhouette, they could be dissolved from the outline mesh
Aside from those kind of polygons on the face area, it's relatively low poly

[frank eagle]

Hi, i am making a 2D game (not pixel art) but i am facing an issue. The outline of the image (a PNG file) once uploaded looks blurry. The image is created in Procreate and it's size is: 640W x 1280H (the idea is to downscale it to make it looks coherent with the game size). Once uploaded in Unity i have set the pixle size to 640 and set the compression to none, but stile the lines looks blurry. Can someone help try to understand how to properly export and import an image from Procreate into Unity?

[fluid oak]

Is that in game or scene view? Is it zoomed? Does changing the filter mode help?

[frank eagle]

Is the scene view, but also in the game view the problem is the same; i have tried it but nothing change

[fluid oak]

Are you atlasing it?

Is the actual image size larger than the max image size for your platform in quality settings?

[sick glen]

hi all, is there a way to enable wireframe on objects with a hotkey?

[raven elm]

Top right of the scene panel, you can enable wireframe

[tame matrix]

@fathom stag, two questions 1. Did you save the image after painting the texture? 2. What settings do you have in export? Can you show me a screenshot?

[fathom stag]

I was using Vertex Paint instead of Texture Paint

[tame matrix]

Hm, hm, hm. I haven't tried vertex painted materials, but maybe this will help:

In Unity there are those buttons to extract textures and materials, did you try to use them? For textures to show you need to use that, so maybe for your settings it will be similar?

[fathom stag]

I'll take a look right now

[fathom stag]

It doesn't help

I could only do this through a custom shader, but the problem is that I can't use it with the nature renderer.

[tame matrix]

Is there any reason you use vertex paint instead of texture paint?

[fathom stag]

As I understand it, in Terrain Paint Details, I can't put a model with 2 or more materials, so I decided to use vertex color to create a single shared material.

Maybe there are better ways, but I don't know about them.

[tame matrix]

There is a process called 'baking textures', I am actually upset now with myself because I was going to make a video about it a while ago and I didn't do it. Basically it allows you to combine multiple materials into a single one.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wG6ON8wZYLc - this is the video I initially learnt about it from years ago

This still works, as I still use the same process, used that in fact over last weekend

[fathom stag]

I'll take a look right now

[glacial vector]

Alt+1/2/3/4 to go between the four modes in the toolbar

[sick glen]

hey Ole good to see you here also

[glacial vector]

I'm everywhere 😄

[deep jetty]

Is there a way to make the Substance Painter viewport rendering look more similarly to Unity HDRP? Some materials (especially metals) look very different.

[glacial vector]

You're pretty limited in Painter tbh, I would say it's more worthwhile to have a quick export workflow so you can quickly tab into Unity to see the materials in context

[gusty pasture]

Yeah, I personally use Substance preview more as a way to see if the maps have the right values. Then tweak the actual final look in-engine.

[deep jetty]

I'll do the same, thanks for answers

[nova gyro]

Anybody know what causes prefabs to just flicker like strobe lights?

these are straight up albedo, no pbr, no emission, default lit shader(urp), did not do this the past 10 hours of work, now random things just start strobing

[nova gyro]

seems to be random "dark matter" causing it, even in an empty scene. If i move the entire structure outside the area of influence of this bug, the flickering stops, if I move it closer, more of the structure flickers

[maiden abyss]

I have a 2d sprite light that I'm trying to dynamically shape so it flows around objects.
I have a working mesh that wraps around the objects, but I'm struggling with applying it to the sprite light itself. Sprite lights don't take render textures. Is there any way I can dynamically alter the vertices of the 2d sprite light at runtime?

Think FOV/flashlight

[misty lantern]

Doesn't the 2D lighting system's shadowcasting do this already

[maiden abyss]

It kind of does, but that doesn't solve the actual thing I'm struggling with. I already have an FOV thing that produces a neat greying-out effect that works okay. But the flashlight in the characters hands shows through tall objects

When I think about it, I guess my actual problem is that my lights aren't sorted correctly by Y axis.

Which, it seems like maybe I can't? I find posts from 2020 talking about wanting this / unity thinking about developing it, has it been made possible?

[misty lantern]

The issue is the lights aren't designed to consider isometric sprites, rather all shadow casters functionally extend "into" the camera infinitely, and normal mapping assumes the lights are between the sprite and the camera

It's a more involved issue to solve than just Y sorting the light, I expect

[maiden abyss]

I don't necessarily need the shadow casting though

I'm mostly interested in resolving the see-through tall object effect

If the light appears as if it comes "under" the object that's less of a concern.

[misty lantern]

It would then seem to go through the wall under it

[maiden abyss]

Yeah but the lights reach isn't very far so the effect would be milder

[misty lantern]

And when you move below the wall's pivot, the wall should swap from being fully in shadow to fully lit

[maiden abyss]

I already kinda have that working with some aggressive normal mapping, it's just that specific flashlight effect that breaks

I might just have to block the player from walking behind tall objects, or not have tall objects like this to begin with, which would be a shame

[misty lantern]

Normal maps can sorta work like that, but not horizontally, and also not when the light is over the wall

Can't say if your proposed method would actually work, or how hard it'd be to implement really, but I know there's an asset that does the kind of lighting you're after
https://assetstore.unity.com/packages/tools/particles-effects/smart-lighting-2d-112535

[maiden abyss]

Yeah any light that's "behind" the wall just becomes "on" the wall

I'll take a look at that asset, thanks

[maiden abyss]

Increasing the normal angle in the normal map significantly also helped

[signal coral]

i'm trying to figure out how to get a sort of "transmissive" effect like when you have light being magnified through glass. i followed some tutorial on refraction (as a starting point) and the setup i have works great when the whole object is using the effect... but what if I want to limit it to just one part of the texture atlas using a custom grayscale map? it seems to behave differently and i am kind of not sure where to go from here.

on the sphere it looks like it properly is warping the scene behind it, but on the lamp where i have a map telling it where to enable this effect, it only appears to draw the scene at an angle when i adjust the IOR. here's the demonstration, and the shader graph (transmission map is really "refraction map" for now, and forget the tiling and offset part, i thought that might have something to do with it but those don't do anything now

[misty lantern]

This is a #1390346776804069396 question
@maiden abyss you too next time

[maiden abyss]

Was there a separate channel for general art/2d stuff before? I feel like the channels have become more confusing since last time I was here.

I wouldn't have guessed my request fit into "rendering"

[misty lantern]

Not for general art
There is #🖼️┃2d-tools which is technically fits, but because your question is primarily rendering related and second custom renderer feature or shader related, your odds of getting relevant advice in that channel are very small

[maiden abyss]

I read the description as "ask anything related to 2d, 3d or audio asset integration", but now I assume the intent behind the wording is specifically about "2d/3d/audio asset integration"

[signal coral]

Channel directory didn’t really specify where shaders go that I could find but ok

🫡

[old steppe]

I have 2 complex materials (ShaderGraph) and I want to combine them into 1 (Like using Overlay node). Do u guys have any idea ?

[abstract iris]

i think im in the right channel to ask this question. so why does this issue happens?

[misty lantern]

Modeling programs don't stop you from giving zero weight vertex groups to bones, but I think usually you have a checkbox to strip those either on export or import
Whether that's an "issue" or not I suppose depends on whether that causes visual issues or happens unexpectedly

[misty lantern]

Shader questions are for the rendering channel like we just discussed above
To "combine" materials you have to make them into one shader, by copy pasting the nodes or making them into subgraphs
(Note for performance that shaders will have to calculate all nodes inside them, unless branched with a keyword which allows features to be split into separate shader variants)

[swift jetty]

idk if this fits in this channel, But I want to know why the number and the icon are blurry.
In the editor I see all ok.
The text is TextMeshPro.

[misty lantern]

It doesn't look blurry, more like stretched
That happens when your Game window has a non-integer zoom level
Make sure to set the resolution of the Game window to match the resolution you expect the game to be played at, and set zoom to 1x to see what the rendered image looks like without being upscaled or downscaled for preview purposes
#📲┃ui-ux is for UI

[swift jetty]

Oh we have a ui channel, sorry I dont see it, thanks

[misty lantern]

#1180170818983051344 or #🏆┃daily-win are for posting creations and progress
This channel is for questions about making assets work with Unity

[abstract lantern]

Oh okay sorry about that

[abstract iris]

i hope this is the correct settings to export a rigged model

and also for the fact that theres an issue that doesnt exist at all

there is no other bones that are named head which im confused on why it says that

heres what im exporting just in case theres something wrong

[glacial vector]

You have a mesh called Head, and a bone called Head. Try changing the name of the mesh and try again

[abstract iris]

i cant really tell if thats the issue because im having this error keep popping up

whoops wrong error

yeah this one

[glacial vector]

That's not an error that's a warning

The question is whether the humanoid rig works as it should

[abstract iris]

i dont even know to check if it works properly

its my first time with this

[glacial vector]

Then you should probably be following a tutorial

[abstract iris]

i did specifically that

[glacial vector]

search youtube for "unity 6 humanoid rig"

[abstract iris]

alr

[misty lantern]

Don't recall off the top of my head if those are the "right" settings
I would use a script or a plugin to do the export right
https://polynook.com/learn/how-to-export-models-from-blender-to-unity
This page has specific instructions how to do it manually (though cloudflare is down now)
Most important is that you stick to a specific method that works well enough
You can always modify transforms and use parenting in Unity to use an imported mesh even if it isn't "correct" totally, but if you have meshes or particularly animation clips exported with different transforms they won't be compatible and can't effectively be used in the same animator

[abstract iris]

wow

[misty lantern]

If you have multiple different objects attached to an armature, I wouldn't export them together with the animations
FBX exporting attempts to create every action separately for every object, so you may end up with dozens or hundreds of junk animation clips
In Unity you want just one Animator Controller for the armature, and each mesh / skinned mesh attached to that armature
Not an individual Controller for every item as this kind of workflow would expect you to make

[abstract iris]

oh that makes so much sense because i have multiple body parts that are not joined

[misty lantern]

Maybe Blender's "bone parent" relationship can now be exported/imported through FBX but not sure
If not, you can try to make sure you have a default pose/position for all objects and parent them in Unity
With multiple armature deform parent relationships it may be more complicated, not sure

It could be the same process as importing a collection of separate objects, but instead of repareting you'd define the skinned mesh component to use the same armature in Unity
Could be some pitfalls on the way, like how Unity's importer expects an armature has to be attached to some specific skinned mesh primarily

Simplest workflow by far is to Join them and just export one armature and one skinned mesh

[abstract iris]

alr

maybe jkoining all meshes didnt help

i only get the same error

[misty lantern]

Warnings aren't errors

[abstract iris]

got it

[misty lantern]

So it doesn't mean the import process was interrupted

[abstract iris]

alr

[misty lantern]

In the case of excess clips you can delete them from a blender scene's file view

[abstract iris]

i dont even know how to find them since i dont see any clips

yeah nothing works

ive been having this issue for a month now, ill see if i can find any solutions if ic an

[dapper sonnet]

So im trying to add/overlay a png here in the shader but it works f¨perfectly in preview but in the actual game everything jsut turns white, this problem only happend when i add, or multiply with this png, ive tried to rexport the file and such. can anyone help?

[misty lantern]

You should show the whole graph, including the properties and how you're using the shader in scene
In #1390346776804069396 usually as that section is for shaders

[dapper sonnet]

ah alright

[signal coral]

again sorry if this is the wrong place, having a moment and i think i'm losing my mind. i could've sworn i could make prefab variants of one another with different underlying fbx assets. i have these 3 variations of a rail track, they're quite literally the same mesh with different endcaps for the head/tail section. can i not have them be variants of the "section" one?

[misty lantern]

They are imported meshes so the "prefab" part is auto-generated
It doesn't make sense to try to make them into variants, as the relationships would break if you ever had to update or swap any of the meshes

[signal coral]

i guess i'm not fully understanding the standard way of looking at these assets. would i make a variant of them all grouped together to form a single track group from 3 different prefabs made from the fbx models?

[misty lantern]

Makes more sense to make prefabs representing the gameobjects you're actually placing around the scene which can be variants of each other or contain other prefabs
The imported meshes would be inside their hierarchies

Because models might have / you may want them to have specific transform properties it makes sense to have them as children inside prefabs, and that makes them swappable as well

[signal coral]

ah

[misty lantern]

Well, why do you want them to be variants or grouped otherwise? Prefabs and prefab variants are a tool for you to make level building and gameobject editing easier

[signal coral]

i figured because they're so similar they should be variants. at least it sounds intuitive that way in my head

guess i'm mistaken on what they represent

each version of the track as an individual prefab so i can reuse them for other groups of prefabs makes sense

[misty lantern]

If they all contain just a mesh, and the mesh is different in each case, that would make them fully different

[signal coral]

like i want the initial track section to be a reusable prefab as well, which comprises of a few copies of the track sections and a head/tail

but a different one for a ceiling track

i assume thats the way to use them

[misty lantern]

You can have prefabs of prefabs

[signal coral]

yeah

[misty lantern]

So collections of track pieces would be prefabs
The track pieces inside them would be prefabs
The meshes inside the piece prefabs would be auto-generated import prefabs

[signal coral]

right

[misty lantern]

A prefab variant is the same prefab but with additional overrides on top

[signal coral]

right. ok i see now

so a different coloration of a monster for instance, with a material variant might be an example

i want them to share similar properties but have one scaled bigger

same base model

[misty lantern]

In my case I have a wall prefab that has colliders and some meshes every wall uses, like a shadow behind the wall, and a placeholder visual mesh
That prefab has variants that each replace the placeholder with different room types' wall meshes
Could also change the wall's physical material if needed

So if I want to change the original wall, every variant inherits the changes because they only override the visual mesh

[misty lantern]

For example yes
But note that "material variants" are a specific thing
Same principle as prefab variants though

They inherit everything which they don't override

[signal coral]

yeah i think thats what i was thinking of that i'd worked with in the past not prefab variants.

[river tree]

are there any tools out there for level design?
It feels daunting imagining going from this to proper levels. Not sure where to start.

[misty lantern]

You can start from concepts
Or even before that from references and inspirational material
After concepts (or concurrently) you can do mock-ups by sketching, or with placeholders in or out of engine
Then you probably already have an idea what kind of level geometry or modules you need to build levels that your gameplay requires

[ivory hornet]

I'm planning to implement a posterization style using posterized textures and for further post processing I'm planning to use Ooseykins QuickDither.

So for using this QuickDither there are two pipeline which seems to work as they claim -- URP and BRP. I'm planning to stay away from URP as we need to render the whole thing into a render texture and the workflow seems non intuitive.

I'm planning to go with the BRP pipeline. This QuickDither also seems to use the PostProcessingStackV2. Should I use a legacy version instead of Unity 6?

[wanton quail]

Hi all! I need some help with height maps in Unity HDRP (exported from Substance Painter). Basically, my height map in unity doesn't have a "default" value, or rather one that height DOESN'T affect, resulting in height being applied to all polygons of the mesh.

Since Substance exports a grey-like texture, I'm assuming the grey values should be 0 (no height), -1 should be negative height (dips), while +1 should be positive height (elevations). However, it doesn't appear to be working like that.

I tested clamping the value to exactly 0 in MinMax range (0 for no height, 1 for max height), but then it only gives me elevations, no dips. I'm kind of stuck, so any help is greatly appreciated!

[half field]

Does anyone use Blender but have modified it to use a camera setup more like Unity's? Or at least not middle-mouse button. I don't think I can use such a different setup!

[gusty pasture]

I'd recommend just getting used to it. The Unity editor is typically for navigating scenes, in Blender you'll work mostly on single objects so an orbit / pan camera works better.

[half field]

That is true, although emulating a 3 button mouse may work better for me than using the middle button which is surprisingly clunky on my logitech mouse

[ivory hornet]

use shift +` to fly walk

[sick glen]

I just had a quick q for environment art practices - if you have a modular kit which is made up of several meshes, is it better practice to export it to engine as one fbx and split it up in engine, or to export it as individual pieces and then piece and snap it together in engine?

I'm asking as trying to keep things efficient in case you have to re-export the meshes later on and maybe the origin points changed or something.... then you pieces that are going to fly off everywhere as maybe the pivot on the object has changed, its happened to me before

[sick glen]

I just changed my move rotate and pan to be like Maya's

[signal coral]

@misty lantern (or anyone) since you are knowledgable with this stuff... that discussion on prefab variants the other day. am i doing this the right way?

i made a single material for this wall with 8 variations of texture using UV offset to have 8 variation possibilities of wall. now i'm building the actual hangar wall array and to keep some variation (it doesn' tneed to be dynamically variable).

i'm creating an empty root (pic #1)

Then creating a prefab variant but replacing or reordering where each panel is in the stack (pic #2)

Each tile is a prefab variant of the first one I made (pic #3) as shown, Hangar Wall 01-08

It's the same mesh but with 1 of the 8 material variants applied with the UV offset shifted by 0.25U at a time or 0.5V for the bottom half of the texture variant. (pic #4)

The material variants only difference is the UV Shift property value on my custom shader (pic #5)

am i understanding this system correctly?

feels very tedious putting this scene together, but probably will get faster as i reuse these prefabs

[wary latch]

Hey artists. I'm pretty new to 3d modelling and have been working on 3d assets in Blender. Modelling, texturing, seeing how they look in Unity. I'm wondering how exactly you make an asset the correct size, for example if I were making a couch, how do I make it the exact size it would be in real life while modelling it? I tried throwing a bed model I made in Unity only to realize that the bed model was way to big.

[signal coral]

You probably need to apply transformations in blender and check your export settings. There’s some differences in blender vs unity, namely the fact it’s XYZ in blender becomes XZY in Unity. There’s some settings typically required to translate correctly.

Should be -Z forward, Up is Y, make sure use space transforms or whatever (I forget but I have a custom exporter for Unity that does a lot of this without having tor remember)

Is there a reason you’re using Unity? Blender is already solid for mockups of furniture and architectural layout.

[wary latch]

No what I mean is I'm using Blender for 3d modelling, and Unity as the game engine. I'm putting the models I made in Blender in Unity to see what it looks like in game.

[signal coral]

Ah. Well it still stands what I said. There’s some conversions so you need to look up details on blender to Unity export settings. Also if you don’t apply transforms it’ll carry over to Unity because it reads the model exactly as you export it

If you have a 25x scale on the object it’ll blow it up 25x from the base size too.

Check your model after you import it. If it has inherent scaling applied to it it’s probably because of your export settings or your transforms aren’t applied.

If you do it right it should have a 1:1 scale match in Unity world units. In blender the default is meters. That should translate 1m = 1 unity world unit

[torn willow]

Made these shaders, there all unlit and it's Unity 6.2
If you guys have any improvements or ideas on how to make it look better let me know!

[mild otter]

Hey I'm trying to make a decal but I really don't understand what's happening, what's up with this barcode render. You can see in the material that my texture looks fine
I'm in URP, I've added the Decal Render feature

Here's the image importSettings also

.dds, .png or whatever, every single image I can find is rendered like that

[woven dome]

The decal projection is at 90 degree angle compared to the surface (the white arrow)

[mild otter]

Oh my god thank you, feeling dumb right now

[fast sparrow]

why is my shader not working like in the tutorial?

this is the tut

this is mine

tut looks like this

mine looks like this

[potent wraith]

What exactly are supoosed to look at?? The sand?

Is that water? Foam? It's really hard to tell. Please be more explicit in your questions...

Also #1390346776804069396

[misty lantern]

Advertising is not allowed here, with the exception of #1080140002849214464 for your assets that are sold through the asset store

What is unclear?

No, "ask questions and discuss" is what the channel description says
Showcasing is only allowed on channels under Project Showcase category as per those channels' rules
Advertising paid assets is only permitted in #1080140002849214464, for assets you are selling through that site, as mentioned

[sullen plank]

Read the actual warning message and pinned posting rules where you are posting. The channel is Asset Store only.

Pinned in the Asset Store channel where you attempted to post, also post guidelines when you fill up the post and in #📖┃code-of-conduct

Again, that channel is for Asset Store links only. Stop spamming the channel.

!ban 940311776409567253 Bye.

[lofty glade]

@markkaminari00 banned

Reason: Bye.
Duration: Permanent

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[raven elm]

"Reason: Bye" lol

[vale acorn]

I have a 3d model asset, a cool animation assets for 3d models, and one character controller. How can I connect them all? Is there a good tutorial for this?

[lusty beacon]

You should cover unity basics first

Search for an animator tutorial (for example) to learn how to "connect" animations

Is your controller a script or more than that? It should probably come with a readme file

That's assuming these are separate assets as otherwise they should probably be "connected" in the prefab

[eager mist]

why is a psd file rendering like this in a 2d project

😆

[outer halo]

Turn on point filtering in the import settings.

[vale acorn]

I know the basics mostly animators etc. I used to make 2d games a lot so 3d is a first for me

Yes they are seperate assets

[misty lantern]

It really depends on the assets
If both character models and animations are made to use the Humanoid Avatar convention, you can use that system to make them work together
If only one of them is Humanoid or they're not designed for each other, then it's not practically possible
Character controller is separate from meshes and animation, visual objects can exist as its child and use whatever method necessary to translate movement into Animator parameters or whichever needed

[vale acorn]

thx

[signal coral]

How deep and how much do yall abstract your prefabs/variants?

anyone got anything like a sample project showing a typical hierarchy of prefab derivatives? Do you go so far as to start with a basic empty object with a tag/static or non static and branch out from there? I’m trying to get a handle on an optimal way to structure my prefab trees and I’m just kind of winging it

Do you only go additive with nested objects or start with a tree and swap objects (overrides showing a bunch of deleted and adds for instance) or only make variants that add on to an empty parent?

Mainly thinking environmental objects - props etc

[icy night]

Pixel art character, sprite animation, pixel background for game. What's your take on these assets

[analog anchor]

Looks great! Really love the filter that you added to the background of the first one, makes it look so much alive

[icy night]

Wow, I'm glad to hear this from you, it motivates me to do more. Thanks 😊

[misty lantern]

This channel is for development, #1180170818983051344 or #🏆┃daily-win are for showcase and feedback

[misty lantern]

It all really depends on how you prefer to do it in a given project
But if working with a team you usually want to create standardized guidelines

My only rule universal of thumb is that prefab's root gameobject should not have any components that rely on Transform properties, unless there's a compelling reason to
Like character movement or rigidbody physics are such reasons
But meshes, colliders and effects I'd contain in an empty GO
The hierarchy and overrides are up to how you expect to want to modify them as you use them, and often that becomes clear only as you go

[signal coral]

It’s only me for now.

So something like this isn’t excessively OCD’ish?

Environment Base (empty, has Environment tag) ->

Environment Static (empty), marked static) ->

Lamp Base (empty) ->

Array Lamp Base (empty) ->

Array Lamp 01 (adds array lamp mesh with LOD group and default Lit material on all renderers)

These next two both derive from “Array Lamp 01”
Array Lamp 01 (Blue) (changes material to the base material I made for it with blue emission)

Array Lamp 01 (White) (changes default material to a white material variant of array lamp with white emission)

I always set prefab root to default transform

The child objects may have displaced transforms tho

[misty lantern]

I dunno if it's necessary to have prefabs for containing environments, or gameobjects at all necessarily
Prefabs are for re-using gameobjects across multiple scenes or instantiating them procedurally
Also not sure what purpose Array Lamp Base serves in between the root and the visuals

But those are just nitpicks
When you use your convention you'll quickly discover what it needs
Or what seems unnecessary

[signal coral]

environment is just my tag for "props" really

[misty lantern]

Then there's no need for it to be a prefab it seems
Nested prefabs quickly get confusing because it can be very ambiguous at which level you're applying overrides on
If you don't apply the overrides to a prefab it's not really doing anything

[signal coral]

guess i'll find out soon enough

this seemed like an intuitive way to handle my current setup, but wasn't sure if it was too out there to go that route

[edgy sluice]

Hello everyone, I have a question: can I use a graph shader in a trigger zone, for example to change the transparency of the object if it is outside of this zone?

[fluid oak]

Yes.

[ivory hornet]

I have this shelf on my scene. But I use totally different materials, not the ones on the screenshot. Should I remove them? if I try to, then I'm getting 'cant delete soft reference'

[potent wraith]

These are part of the imported asset file. Unity does not let you modify the assets themselves by design.
You could maybe configure the asset import settings to not import materials, though I'm not sure if that would help removing them entirely.

[misty lantern]

If your goal is to use different materials, you can use the material remapping from import settings, or what I do typically is assign new materials in the prefab the mesh is being used in, which they typically will be

[ivory hornet]

This is exactly what I've done.

[misty lantern]

Setting materials to not import avoids creating unnecessary material assets if they're bothersome

The file itself will still have them but they're trivially small and stripped from builds anyway

Textures work the same way, but can be very large so exporting meshes without them packed in the file becomes more important

[split lance]

how do i set up UDIM textures in unity?

[split lance]

does unity even support udims?

[tribal pivot]

i found this on google https://discussions.unity.com/t/unity-has-udim-support-now/777848
why do you need them tho?

[split lance]

for a class we set up our chareacters with udims and i wanna try them out

[misty lantern]

I guess it depends on what you mean by "support"

UDIMs are a workflow

As is mentioned in the thread the simplest way to use them is to convert them into separate material slots, which Substance seems to do automatically

The core concept of UDIMs is that a material can use an arbitrary number of textures, which in realtime engines tends to break every typically used method of runtime rendering optimization

So there's little point in going through the trouble of implementing the whole feature, when you can just as well convert the meshes into a more common format

[winter tendon]

how do i apply this opacity map onto my texture?

im using urp unity 6

[potent wraith]

Write it to the alpha channel of your base map texture.

[winter tendon]

howd i do that, sry im kinda new

heres my base map texture

[potent wraith]

I think you can change the alpha source to point to your texture, but I'm not 100% sure.
Usually, you'd do that in an external image editor, like gimp or photoshop, not in unity.

[winter tendon]

idk cus i bought an asset and this is what it came with

[potent wraith]

So I guess you can't do it here.

[potent wraith]

What asset? From unity store?

[winter tendon]

nop

just some vegetation assets from here and there

[winter tendon]

so is the only solution to just manually edit all the textures?

[potent wraith]

Yes.
Sifferent engines and frameworks have different work flows for materials. Game engines usually have transparency as part of the color texture alpha.

[winter tendon]

damn ok

[potent wraith]

Well, you could make a custom shader that would sample the alpha texture explicitly, but that's like worsening your game performance on purpose.

[winter tendon]

i dont like the custom shader stuff 😔

imma just manually edit them ig

thanks

[sullen plank]

I've just told you to not inflate messages. Also you've left previous one hanging.

[hard surge]

how can i ask question then?

I used the channel you told me

[sullen plank]

Again. Just don't inflate your messages with spaces.

It is quite obnoxious.

[hard surge]

So, I need to shorten my message?

Hey! I need help with a dismemberment mechanic.

I want my monk character to lose an arm during combat.
Right now I’m not sure what’s the best workflow in Maya/Unity.

My idea was to make 3 versions of the model (full body, no left arm, no right arm) and switch them in Unity when the arm is cut. But I'm not sure if this is the correct approach, or if I should use separate meshes / bones for the arms instead.

How do you properly prepare a rigged character so that one arm can be removed during gameplay?
Any tips or recommended workflow would really help!

Thanks!

[outer halo]

That is the correct approach, toggling on/off meshes based on the state of the character. The character would have the full arm, and then a dismembered (attached) version you toggle between. The actual limb that falls off would be a separate model you would launch with some physics.

You can see it here in this thing I made for someone's project.

[hard surge]

thanks a lot!

[green ice]

Hi guys , I have some little problem
when I export FBX files from blender to unity and I do all setup exporting setting correct and the problem is texture is messing or not fit correctly

[tardy surge]

Applying transforms (scale mainly) and then if it still is messing around drag and dropping the texture in unity onto the object usually does the trick for me. I see on your screenshot "Apply transforms" is not checked. You can do it in project by ctrl + a I think? (muscle memory, idk keybind), if that warning is telling something scary.

Edit: Grammar
Edit02: If your leafs are made with nodes, apply scale only on original leaf should do it.

[green ice]

its not about scale

[crimson karma]

The blender material might not transfer to unity perfectly, setup a new material in unity and use the textures in there

[green ice]

Leaf texture not exportet correct

[crimson karma]

Is that an external texture file or did you generate it in blender somehow?

[fallow summit]

can you show the shader graph for the leaf texture?

if its a procedural material in blender you cant just export it into unity 1:1

[crimson karma]

from his screenshot it looks like its just texture image files

[fallow summit]

thats the tree bark

[crimson karma]

oh nvm

[green ice]

I baked it

[fallow summit]

you baked it to 1 map?

[green ice]

yep

[fallow summit]

yeah but where the hell is your bsdf in blender?

when you bake something you typically bake it into like a diffuse, roughness and normal

youre plugging a texture straight into the surface

thats why it looks different in unity lol

[green ice]

im really confused and forget it

holymolly

thanks bro i got it

[acoustic pollen]

Hey, so the game I'm developing pretty much all revolves around fragment shaders. Most of the development effort is going into those shaders for results that I believe to be pretty unique.
I am wondering how feasible would it be to have the shaders decompiled (and how readable the results would be) if someone wanted to steal that code. And are there any extra steps I can take or configuration I can set to protect it better?

[potent wraith]

While it can definitely be decompiled, the code would be pretty unreadable, given compiler optimizations and lack of debug symbols.
I don't think there are any extra steps that you can take. The shaders binary code is exposed when used on the gpu.

They might be able to reuse the shader, though, probably not as is in unity.

[misty lantern]

I've heard of tools to decompile and recompile shaders from asset bundles (since VRC users trade those for notable sums of money), which might work for built applications if they're compiled the same way

But outside of that I can't imagine why anyone would want to go through the trouble

[potent wraith]

I don't know how super amazing your shader is, but people that can decompile and reuse it, probably can write as good of a shader themselves.

[misty lantern]

And would prefer to make their own

[potent wraith]

Yep. Using decompiled code in any a little bit serious project is unsustainable.

[acoustic pollen]

I see. I suspected decompiled HLSL would be pretty unreadable any way, thanks for confirming.
I believe there's no situation / platform in which the shaders don't get compiled in the release buids?

[potent wraith]

Debug(development) builds might include the source code in the debug symbols depending on the graphics api and platform. Just make sure your debug builds are not publically available.

[gusty pasture]

Even the DXIL bytecode is fairly readable on its own, so it can definitely be stolen.

Take solace in the fact that there's nothing you could do about that.

[fluid oak]

Unless you are patenting it, not much you can do.

[proud sleet]

I'm making an armour equip system in my game. I'm currently doing it by swapping the mesh in pre-made skinned mesh renderers. But I want to make skirt/Cape physics.
I was thinking of rebuilding the system to swap entire skinned mesh renderers then rebind the skeleton and using skinned cloth for the physics. Is that a good way? My rig uses the humanoid skeleton and idk if I want to make a bunch of bones which will only be used by some armour pieces.
Would love to hear good ways to do this. Thanks.

[quiet aspen]

i have these beer bottles with a liquid, glass/bottle and label mesh on them. they are urp lit materials set to specular and transparent. sometimes when looking at them from different angles the liquid will render overtop the glass or the labels will be under the glass. i tried using sorting priority but this causes some other issues, like in the photo where the label of the back bottles appears overtop the liquid of the bottle in front. i tried messing with render queues but i can only change it in the debugger and its not persistent. any tips for this sort of thing would be great

[misty lantern]

https://www.cyanilux.com/faq/#transparent-sorting
Give opaque parts an opaque shader, avoid both-sided rendering and if you've got self-containing semitransparent parts you could separate and rejoin them in a particular order so that internal vertex order can be used to sort them correctly

Objects with a transparent material are sorted against each other by their origin's distance to camera on a per-object basis, but internally their geometry is sorted in the order it's written into mesh data

[quiet aspen]

okay, i set the labels as opaque and that looks good. i have to have my liquid and bottle as separate objects because i scale the liquid mesh at runtime based on how much is left in the bottle. would what you described be possible with my current setup?

i really like how the double transparency works when it actually does but its not consistent. its not the end of the world if i have to make the liquid opaque as well

[misty lantern]

Won't exactly be
Making the liquid opaque too would avoid this problem, and might look okay with some interesting shader
Or alternatively combine the mesh but scale the liquid part in a vertex shader, or with bone weights
A bit more involved but gives you a lot more control than plain scaling

I guess the simplest method would be a script that offsets the liquid a minuscule distance away from the camera relative to its starting position
Just enough to make the bottle always get prioritized in sorting

You can change render queue persistently in scripts too but I find that more cumbersome as now that object is sorted differently from everything else

[misty lantern]

You'd look for modeling advice and showcasing opportunities on Blender or art communities
This server is for Unity development strictly, and the channel for asset implementation into Unity

[rancid kayak]

I was planing to use it for unity

Nvm anyways

[misty lantern]

If you need advice using it in Unity this is the right channel
And once you do put it in Unity then I believe it qualifies for #1180170818983051344 or #🏆┃daily-win

[quiet aspen]

alright thank you. i appreciate it. i might end up just making a shader for the liquids

[misty lantern]

Custom shader or no, the predicament and choice is the same

[wise osprey]

Not sure if this is the right place to ask but seems like it is. I got these assets from the fab store. I have imported them and done the following:
Generate Lightmap UVs ✔️
Created Materials and used the material tab to import the materials ✔️
Marked them as static in the editor ✔️
Tried flipping the normals ✔️
Tried different materials ✔️

The only thing I usually do different is tell the material creator mode that no materials are on the mesh, and I create and apply the material from unity itself, but because some of these meshes have got 3 materials on them, I need to use the import settings material tab

[wise osprey]

I think I foud the issue. The packed textures were packed for Unreal and not Unity . I am making the assumptoin that the packed RGB values do not map 1:1 from Unreal to Unity as I think the R G B maps that get packed are diffeernt for the 2 engines. Removing the Packed AORM map (AO Roughness and Matalic) from the material fixed the issue for me. so my best guess is the packing layout. I am guessing though

Confirmed!! the packing channels are different between Unreal and Unity:
Unreal:
R - AO
G - Roughness
B - Matalic
A - extra

Unity:
R - Roughness
G - AO
B - Metalic

[gusty pasture]

The way Unreal materials work - can't you just decide this yourself?

Of course you can remap them in Unity too without much hassle.

[wise osprey]

correct. Remapping using the Swizzle

[gusty pasture]

I also think Unity may be using smoothness, not roughness 😄

[wise osprey]

ehhh same same

[gusty pasture]

So 1 - roughness

[wise osprey]

XD

But ya, you are correct

[lusty beacon]

So, if you're talking about hdrp lit, that is not the channel layout

Red is metallic, for exampl3, and alpha is smoothness

[wise osprey]

urp.

[lusty beacon]

If you're talking about urp, then the standard shader doesn't pack textures, they are separate samples

And if you're making a custom packing shader, then the layout doesn't matter because YOU choose it

[wise osprey]

URP does have packed maps though.. I have full control after just flipping the packed RGB maps .

[lusty beacon]

If they were packed, they would be in one slot and called mask map

You're just inserting the same packed texture into different slots

[wise osprey]

oh ya, thought we were talkging about the same thing 😆 my bad

[lusty beacon]

So if you wanna use it with the standard shader, you would need to extract the maps as separate textures in some external software.

faster would be to make your own shader that outputs the rgba channels to the layout your mask map texture uses

[wise osprey]

I mean,, would save me from adding the same map 3 times

[lusty beacon]

And it would also work. What you're doing right now doesn't work as intended.

It just "accidentally works" as it's adding white values so you think it's working, but those are not the intended textures for those channels

[winged obsidian]

I'm chasing down some very nitpicky issues involving mesh tangents. I'd love to be able to click on a vertex on a model and see its exact vertex attributes (position, normal, tangent, UVs, etc.)

Is there a tool that lets me do this, or should I just handroll something?

[worthy merlin]

Hello, has anyone experienced a problem where static batching doesn't work with custom (shader graph) shaders?

[potent wraith]

I don't think shaders should matter here. Or rather, them being shader graph or not. Static batching has mainly 2 conditions: the objects are marked as static, and they are using the same material instance. Well, I guess there's also the condition of static batching being enabled in the project(iirc it's disabled in SRPs by default).

If all these conditions are true, I'd look at the frame debugger. I think it shows the reason why the object is not batched.

[fallow summit]

Has anyone ever made a Disney BRDF shader for unity URP? 🤔

[eager mist]

Anyone knows why light objects are not working on 3d objects rendered on a 2d project?

[potent wraith]

Because 2d renderer doesn't do anything in terms of 3d lighting. Why would you even think that they should work.

[eager mist]

im interested in working on a 2.5d project

and the universal 3d project does not read my 2d psb/psd files at all

[eager mist]

actually, it just worked, i guess you were wrong and i chose a wrong light object last week

xD

[potent wraith]

There are definitely aspects of 3d rendering that don't work with a 2d renderer. I don't remember what exactly though. It might be that there would be more differences in the build too.
You should really use the 3d template(or rather 3d renderer) if you want to mix. As for psd files, you're likely just missing a package.

[eager mist]

ill look into packages again >:P

[winter tendon]

when i added the occlusion map to my material, nothing happened to it

i tried adjusting the value but still no effect

heres the setting of the occlusion texture

im using unity 6 urp and ambient occlusion is turned on

[misty lantern]

What are you expecting to happen?
What kind of lighting does your scene have

Occlusion mapping is not related to ambient occlusion
Even though occlusion mapping occludes ambient light

When referring as "ambient occlusion" to either SSAO or lightmap AO

[winter tendon]

i want to be able to adjust the models occlusion

im not sure if thats what u call it

basically the higher the value, the stronger the shadowy bits are

it worked before in a different project

[winter tendon]

ah mb

[potent wraith]

Can you show screenshots of what it looks like and what you want it to look like?

[misty lantern]

That's roughly how it works
The map multiplies indirect light (so 0 value is dark), the slider lerps out the map's effectiveness (so 1 is the darkest value)
But only with indirect diffuse lighting specifically
Direct lighting and indirect reflections/specular aren't affected

[potent wraith]

<@&502884371011731486> some kind of sus file sharing.

[obtuse oyster]

?ban 1272792139914416168 suspicious uploads across multiple channels

[lilac edge]

maunderscore_ was banned.

[winter tendon]

this is what it currently looks like. I have no idea if this is with AO on or off because removing/adding the map has no visible changes

[winter tendon]

so is my scene lacking light or indirect light or ??? sry im kinda new to this stuff ;-;

[potent wraith]

Can you show how it looks in blender? Or where did you get this asset and it's occlusion map? Surely there must be a reference somewhere of what it's supoosed to look like..?

[winter tendon]

lemme get back to u with what it looks like in substance painter

cus someone else makes the models, and i try to make it work in the game

[misty lantern]

Looks like it
Shadows are dark or even black, which would be lit by indirect lighting so there probably is no indirect lighting to occlude

[queen epoch]

Guys what you can recommend me to use global shader for 2 sided normals? Some of the faces are not visible from the back of the trees. Because of the normals.

[hoary kindle]

You would want to enable double sided, sure. On the back faces I believe the normals to be flipped there so lighting won't look correct. You should use a shader that flips the normals for the backfaces (shader graph has Is Front Face Node which you can use to detect back faces in the fragment shader and flip the normals)

[misty lantern]

I recommend you duplicate the geometry of the leaves and flip their normals in the mesh itself, to avoid needing a custom shader

[queen epoch]

The forest is 200k in total, although it is lowpoly, it is still a good value that I can use for the forest, if I do as you say, the polygon value will increase even more. For now face both worked for me, I thought that setting was not in the default shader.

[misty lantern]

The "both" option causes incorrect lighting as AleksiH mentioned, because it calculates view angle for shading using negative values
And I may be wrong but afaik has a render cost comparable to just drawing another polygon, because even with double faces one of them would always be culled
But it would be more mesh data

[queen epoch]

I still have some questions about fog, I wonder what kind of thing I can do. I tried to add fog with volume but things didn't go exactly the way I wanted. I added a dithered effect, but it really messed up the look of the game, so I removed it because it wasn't what I wanted. I added environment fog in the render settings, which is actually nice, but it gives a weird glow effect to the whole map, and if I could add a dense procedural fog with a constant movement of the character, that would really help. Any thoughts?
I'm trying to get more of a silenthill, lethal company kind of ambience. The way it looks now is fine, but it's too clear, so the fog is really important.

[misty lantern]

So a custom shader that flips normals based on view angle is the best in that sense, but the downside is that alternating between shaders a lot within a scene can hinder batching

[queen epoch]

I haven't switched to the game's lighting yet, but if I have a problem I will definitely do as you say.

[misty lantern]

Can you rephrase the question?
We don't see the removed dithering effect so can't comment on it
Not sure what a "procedural fog" would be as opposed to environment fog

[queen epoch]

How exactly should I add the fog effect, what I want is actually 2 fog systems, one is something like noise moving on the ground at the foot level of the character, like white tiny clouds. One is a dense fog effect that prevents the character from seeing 15 meters ahead.

like this ones, noisy fog

[misty lantern]

Most games use environment fog, together with a skybox that is the same color or blends to the same color near the horizon

[queen epoch]

With environment fog it looks like this picture, it looks like it adds a little bit of shine.

[misty lantern]

These are large billboard particles, which can fade away by distance to camera and by distance to depth buffer to make them blend smoothly

Lethal Company uses HDRP's volumetric fog in addition to environment fog

[queen epoch]

How can I make the fog clouds moving around this character, I think it's something like a volume noise effect, right?

That's what I meant by procedural fog.

No, I think I misspelled the name, volumetric fog.

[misty lantern]

In Silent Hill 2's case they are billboard particles, and they are set to move as particles

There isn't technically anything volumetric about them beyond that they float in space

[queen epoch]

Oh, I thought it was something like volumetric fog, but I guess it would be easier to make it with particles.

ok then, thanks man

[misty lantern]

It's not easy to make billboard fog particles look like they're not separate floating chunks, but SH2's effect artists are skilled

[queen epoch]

What would you suggest me, what kind of effects do you think I should add for this game?

[misty lantern]

Volumetric effects tend to be more complex, usually using raymarching against voxels to determine how much of and how something exists in the space between the camera and geometry
This allows for the fog to be precisely illuminated by light sources, which is a big reason you might want volumetric fog

[misty lantern]

Hard to say on your behalf
I suggest trying out and seeing what particles can do and how HDRP's volumetric fog works to get understanding and familiarity to help you decide

[queen epoch]

What if I lower the opacity and make the objects that look like clouds fly around the character through particles. Do you think this would be similar to silenthill's in a shortcut?

I guess I can't use HDRP stuff because the game I'm making uses URP.

But thanks anyway, you've helped me find answers to a lot of things in my mind. I always thought volumetric fog was what I was looking for.

[misty lantern]

Well, particles are "objects" in the sense that they're geometry
They can be billboard quads or more complex meshes just as well
A particle system is just a tool for rendering and controlling many instances of geometry with simulated forces together
A mesh could give a cloud some depth, but it might make it look too solid too, depends on how you present it

[pallid hound]

did yall ever used TrenchBroom to create levels/maps for your Unity game?

[mystic scarab]

Whats that?

[pallid hound]

a level editor for Quake, half life and other valve games

i saw it was used by some unity and godot devs, and because i need low poly maps i tought this was perfect for me but not sure how to take measures so im asking here

as google isnt useful

[fallow summit]

why would anyone use anything but hammer for levels in valve games though

oh it only supports half life 1 "experimentally"

its also pretty pointless you might as well use blender at that point and import your level as model sized chunks

or the best option of course

probuilder

[signal osprey]

Hello everyone! I am working on a scene in Unity in which I additively load 3 floors of a house environment. Every floor has it's own Unity scene with a completely baked lighting set up. All scenes use the same lighting settings and set up, the only thing that might vary is the amount of lights, intensity, etc. Now everything seems to look fine except for this one part in my scene. In the editor, the lighting looks completely fine, but when I play and load all the scenes, you can see (2nd image) the look of the walls/trims change. Does anyone know how to fix this/why this is happening?

[fallow summit]

if youre additively loading the scenes you might be having some sort of lightmap conflicts

which might be causing issues

one floor could be indexing the lightmap of another for example

[signal osprey]

That seemed to be the case indeed. I split this mesh into two pieces and added the trim to the bottom floor (so a different scene) and it did pick up the correct lighting. However, I am still wondering if there is a better way to fix this or potentially a better way to set this up?

[fallow summit]

is there any reason each individual floor needs to be a seperate scene?

what is the goal with doing that? procedural house generation?

[signal osprey]

We're using fully baked lighting due to this being a web game so after doing some research I found this workflow and thought it would be useful to avoid light bleeding through the floors and also to keep things a bit more optimized

[misty lantern]

Baked lighting is per scene
There are methods to associate it with prefabs instead but it can get tricky especially together with light probes and has very few advantages
Light baking already deals with light bleeding through objects, and occlusion in general

#1390346776804069396 is for light and rendering related things

[queen epoch]

Is there a solution I can use in Unity for a custom texture roads that is shaped with the terrain? Currently, I am placing the roads using a Blender curve.

Also, I need a solution for the trees. I have two tree models which I scattered across the entire map using Geometry Nodes. However some end up floating. Even if I export it as a single mesh and import it into Unity, all the individual trees are selectable separately. How can I select all of them in Unity and place them precisely on the terrain without any gap between the tree trunk and the ground?

[winged folio]

Hello, im having trouble importing objects from blender, some normals inverted once imported.

On blender all normals are good, i have the normals viewer, all modifiers are applied and all transforms too.

I export it as FBX with all the textures packaged etc. and some objects have the normals wrong.
the images are an example, but several more parts are like that

[tribal pivot]

perhaps your object has negative scale

[winged folio]

all transforms and modifiers are already applied, the scale is 1x1x1

[potent wraith]

This doesn't seem like an issue with normals, but rather the uvs or the way you sample textures.

[winged folio]

i think is normals because if i go inside the object, i can see all the faces with their texture

[potent wraith]

Normals don't stretch or invert the faces textures. They only affect lighting.

The right side looks like alpha channel is ignored.

[winged folio]

but if the normals are inverted, you only see the faces from the inside because the game render only renders faces facing the camera right?

[potent wraith]

Maybe makes sure you have alpha/transparency enabled on the imported texture.

[winged folio]

ignore that, im using a PSX shader and i didnt apply the cutout alpha setting yet because im fighting the other thing

[potent wraith]

It depends on the shader/material. But then you wouldn't see anything at all, since back faces would be invisible.

In your case they seem visible(unless it's a bad screenshot), just not showing the correct texture laid out correctly.

[winged folio]

what i see on the object is the faces on the back, the closest one being invisible, as its facing the other way

from the inside all tha faces are visible

[potent wraith]

Oh, okay, then this is a bad screenshot.

[winged folio]

becasue theya re facing inwards

[winged folio]

sorry lol

[potent wraith]

I that case the normals must be inverted.

Just to be safe, I'd check with a standard shader.

[winged folio]

i tried importing and calculating the normals when importing the asset but made no difference

[potent wraith]

Or even urp lit, so that you can test with backface rendering.

[potent wraith]

I don't think that would help with all faces inverted. How is the engine gonna know if that's intended or not?

[winged folio]

well, just letting you know, becasue i been fighting this the whole afternoon and i tried everuthing

[potent wraith]

Try what I suggested and share the results.

Share the face normals view of the mesh in blender too.

[winged folio]

the screenshot i sent before already has the inverted normals painted red

[potent wraith]

I don't see that in any of the screenshots you shared recently.

[winged folio]

just to prove it

[winged folio]

because the normals are good in blender XD

[potent wraith]

Mm... That's not what I'm familiar with. From my memory, you should see ALL faces tinted in blue/red for forward/back faces accordingly.

[winged folio]

i think its a new release thing

you can see "face orientation" is enabled

[potent wraith]

Isn't there something like this?

Ah, OK.

[potent wraith]

Does it apply to all the objects in the scene though? Or only the selected ones?

[winged folio]

everything

[potent wraith]

Okay. Then the next thing to do is to confirm the face orientation in unity by using a default(ideally urp lit) shader.

[winged folio]

on the scene editor its urp right? all the materials are standard too, didnt make them the PSX stuff i was talking about

sorry, this is my first Unity project haha

[potent wraith]

It depends on the template. The material should show what shader is being used.

[winged folio]

yep, standard

just for clarity sake, applying the PSX material still renders it the same way, with the wrong normals

[potent wraith]

OK, well that means that the faces are inverted.
Id try exporting the meshes again from blender into a new directory and import them in unity again, to make sure you are not confusing anything. If that doesn't help, perhaps there's another issue.

[winged folio]

i did that 100 times already haha, im going to do it again to show how im doing every step, give me a minute

[potent wraith]

Maybe record a video of the process.

I'm going to sleep though. Will have a look at it later if you share it.

[winged folio]

okay, thanks for the help

[winged folio]

well, i dont know what the issue is, but if i separate the objects with normal issues to a different blender file and import them separatedly they work fine...

[cold musk]

anyone know a way in blender to export only the actions so if I want to add new actions I don't have to re-export the whole FBX every time?

[gloomy cairn]

Does anyone know how to create a really nice lookin outdoor environment and what to use? I have a reference image.

[smoky beacon]

Hello just switched to a new laptop but got a model that has to exported with a tool could anyone help it will be too late if I wait for unity assets download to finish

[mystic scarab]

skybox and volumetric fog

[fallow summit]

can you define enviroment here? are you talking about the entire thing buildings included or just the atmosphere and skybox?

[gloomy cairn]

Some buildings, the terrain, atmosphere and skybox. Doesn't have to be the whole city but I'd really like the ground with the puddles and detailing.

[fallow summit]

yeah i mean look up enviroment art guides and start from there

theres no like 1 tutorial that will show you something like this, this is a culmination of a lot of different skills being applied at once

if you want to know about something more specific like the post processing and that you can always ask but in terms of "knowing how to create a really nice looking enviroment" all you are going to have to do is study and learn!

[gloomy cairn]

Also do you have any suggestions for this? I'm working on this as a test at the moment

@fallow summit

[fallow summit]

well first identify the important elements first

oh wait

this is yours?

have you baked the lighting?

[gloomy cairn]

It's all realtime

[fallow summit]

yeah you can tell

[gloomy cairn]

And yes it is mine

[gloomy cairn]

Wait what

Is it bad?

[fallow summit]

i mean i can tell its realtime lighting lol

not that its nescessarily bad

but like you have almost no shadows in the scene

[gloomy cairn]

They are there lemme show you a diff angle

[fallow summit]

theres too much repetetion in certain textures like the snow and dirt near the water

the distant mountain skyline is also pretty monotonous without any variance in depth

[fallow summit]

everything i said still applies

[gloomy cairn]

It's really hard to find good textures

The ones I'm using are atually from unity

[fallow summit]

do it proceduraly using free textures online.

[gloomy cairn]

Also what water are you talking about

[fallow summit]

i assumed this was water

but now i see its just snow

the point still stands

anyways you really need to bake the lighting here if you want it to actually look nice

like thats step one

[gloomy cairn]

Do I just set my reflection probe to baked, and then bake the lighting or

[fallow summit]

anyways as for your textures a good way to break up repetetition is to blend certain textures together using custom shadders

[fallow summit]

you set static objects as static

and go to your lighting tab and bake the lighting

[gloomy cairn]

Do I need a reflection probe

[fallow summit]

yes they help a lot but are not nescessary to bake lighting itself

you need light probes if you want to mix realtime and baked lighting

[gloomy cairn]

I'll try baking it and letting you know how it looks after

[fallow summit]

anyways to return to this theres a ton of ways to use shader nodes to procedurally mix different textures and blend between them

also your transition from snow to dirt is too sudden and unnatural

[gloomy cairn]

I wasn't sure how to fix that

Should I use a different brush with less opactiy?

[fallow summit]

look at real life references at how snow transitions into dirt

most of the time its not a clear cut line like you have

heres a good example of what i mean

[gloomy cairn]

If I have tree animation shaders will it work for static baking

[gloomy cairn]

I see, I'll try using another brush for more detail

[gloomy cairn]

@fallow summit I don't think it's supposed to take this long... I started it when we last talked

[fallow summit]

depends on both your pc's strength and the settings you used

[gloomy cairn]

Well I just used default settings, if I have shaders would it take a lot longer?

[fallow summit]

not nescessarily but like i said it depends on your pc as well

if your pc is weaker then yes its gonna take a long time to bake lighting

[gloomy cairn]

A bake has never taken this long 😭

I think it might be better to just do realtime

[fallow summit]

realtime is never going to look half as good as baked or mixed

just saying

whats your gpu and cpu?

[gloomy cairn]

How do I check

[fallow summit]

are you using a laptop?

[gloomy cairn]

Yea

I think I might just use regular lighting cuz it doesn't look like garbage, and I'm not going for complete ultrarealism here

Also do you know how to do god rays from skybox source? @fallow summit

I'm not using a directional light, just skybox lighting for now

[fallow summit]

yeah if youre on a laptop baking lighting is a pipe dream

rip

[gloomy cairn]

Also do you know much about blender?

[fallow summit]

yes, a lot

why

[gloomy cairn]

Can we talk in DMs?

[fallow summit]

just ask here

[gloomy cairn]

Alright

So I'm trying to texture something to have like a worn metal look, with some scratches

As well as edge highlighting

Lemme show you

[fallow summit]

oh is this just a blender question in general?

[fallow summit]

you should probably just go to the blender discord for that

[gloomy cairn]

I mean if you know I may as well ask you, how about DMs?

[fallow summit]

ok just tell me what specifically you need help with here

setting up a material with scratches and edge highlighting and getting into unity?

[gloomy cairn]

Yes

[gloomy cairn]

Wrong reply but yes

I understand how materials work, and that you export them as a png into unity

But I don't know how to get the look I'm looking for

[fallow summit]

well you can create a procedural material in blender

and bake the textures and import it like that in unity

but if you need realtime control of the material within unity you need to recreate it with a custom shader node set up

[gloomy cairn]

I don't need realtime control

I just don't know what nodes to use for this

I also don't want it to look like a silly roblox texture

[fallow summit]

well you need to start off with some textures

for your metal and scratched off metal as well

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_wEXl3LncAc heres a good video on how to do edge wear

as for scratches its just a matter of applying some textures over your diffuse and roughness or using textures with scratches already on them

[gloomy cairn]

Thank you so much this is exactly what I was looking for

[gloomy cairn]

I assume it is just noise right? I could do some sort of stretched out noise?

[fallow summit]

maybe with the wave node im not too sure

im sure theres videos on that too

[gloomy cairn]

And I can export a material from texture with all the proper maps to create a normal unity material? AO, height, normal, etc

[fallow summit]

actually

probably with a voronoi

[fallow summit]

youre going to need to bake any of the procedural materials from blender into texture sets, but yes

[gloomy cairn]

Do you have a tutorial or a simple set of instructions for that

[fallow summit]

you know not to sound too rude but you know you can google most of this stuff right?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Se8GdHptD4A

[gloomy cairn]

Sorry I've tried a lot and never found a solution

[deep jetty]

Is there easy workflow with Photoshop and MaskMap for HDRP? I want to add alpha channel for Smoothness but PS will only export alpha channel if it's applied to layers and then its on all channels not only alpha

[fluid oak]

You can add an explicit alpha channel in the channels panel.

[chilly citrus]

I couldnt find any channel that was intuitive enough to post this question, so Im droping here, Im sorry if it isnt the right place.

Since polybursh is deprecated, what tool can I use to sculp scenario on Unity 6.3 ?

[hoary kindle]

Even though it's deprecated you can still probably use it (though people seem to have had some trouble with it). You can look for alternatives on the asset store. Of course the traditional workflow would be to use any external 3D modelling software and import the models to unity

[green latch]

Hi there so i wanted to change the texture of an object to add more damages and change colors, is this done trough texturing or with a shader? I wanted to do it with substance designer, but i don't know if that would even translate the smart material properties, do i just export the damage masks created from the smart material to use it on a shader or thats not how things work?
I don't know the first thing about shaders so i don't know if i'm searching on the right spot, is there any tutorial on what i want to do?

[fallow summit]

you cant import smart materials from substance into unity and then adjust their properties

you can only bake them into textures

but this means you cant do any realtime changes

if you want a material in unity that has adjustable realtime damage and wear you are going to need to use a shader graph

[lusty beacon]

DO NOT use the substance unity plugin imo

Bad idea

You can do these things via a shader and possibly decals if you wanna project some bullet holes, cuts, cracks, whatever

You could also just do it all with a shader

[green latch]

is it bad?

[misty lantern]

Iirc the plugin keeps the material "smart" even in Unity, which gives a whole lot of control but typically would be absolutely untenable for realtime performance in a game

[green latch]

So if i want to add more wear and tear to an armor the more damage it has taken should i make it with a shader or just swapping
textures?

[lusty beacon]

it absolutely destroyed my performance when I tried it. The engine was dying.

Even after removing all materials. I had to deinstall the plugin to restore performance

[lusty beacon]

yeah, you could possibly even lerp between the two textures for many levels of wear but essentially you'd probably want to do this with a shader

[misty lantern]

Both good options
The Lit shader also supports detail maps which may be helpful for overlaying generic wear textures over any material (which isn't using detail maps or detail normals already)

[green latch]

Is youtube good enough to learn about shaders?, because i've been finding some dead ends on some topics there

[potent wraith]

It depends. It should be good enough for general hlsl.

[lusty beacon]

You're 100% right that it's a dead end on many topics

You may learn the basics and some general stuff

Also, for unity a lot of the tutorials are for shader graph specifically

If you are ok with that, then I recommend ben cloward, he has many, many useful videos

But you may struggle to learn skmething specific and are going to have to resort to asking around or blindly trying out for yourself

[fluid oak]

Youtube as a whole is terrible but you can often find good specific tutorials.

[hardy ermine]

i need help exporting a humanoid model from blender to unity

[fallow summit]

help how?

be specific

[hardy ermine]

the axes are always misaligned in at least one way

either on the mesh or on the bones

this mesh is misaligned, for example

and these leg bones are backwards

[fallow summit]

you applied all transforms inside of blender right?

show me your fbx export settings

[hardy ermine]

i did, yeah

sorry, away from computer, one sec

i remember it though

primary bone axis is Y, secondary is X
forward is +Z
up is +Y
scaling is all correct

but i feel like i’ve tried all combinations of everything and every combination causes at least one issue

[fallow summit]

i think it might just be the nature of exporting so many individual meshes per character ig?

[fallow summit]

are you doing it before exporting or are you using the one in the export settings?

[hardy ermine]

both

[fallow summit]

it could be altough im not positive

that some of the meshes had negative scale values in blender

and i think issues caused by that might persist even after you apply the scale

[hardy ermine]

rig

blender export settings

unity import settings

each bone has a +Y tracking axis and a Z up axis

[fallow summit]

are you applying the scale on the armature* as well?

[hardy ermine]

yes, all scales are 1 on everything

😭 help

[proud sleet]

I have an equip system for different body parts but want to add physics to some clothing like skirts, waistcoats etc, is there a good way to do that? I know bones are the most efficient way but how do you add bones for unique clothing items?

I'm currently swapping meshes on skinnedmesh renderers for each body part and was going to look at skinned mesh physics but it theres a way i can do the bone based method thast'd be awesome

[fallow summit]

yeah bones would be the easiest way

a lot of people use the pretty famous "dynamic bone" asset just for that

https://assetstore.unity.com/packages/tools/animation/dynamic-bone-16743?srsltid=AfmBOorsPWZMlGFdbxJkZK2iyJDy7MYhwz-NAhP2jLBhqAJDdUPGYO3O

i can testify its really good and saves a lot of time but its also nothing you couldnt create on your own given some effort and time

[proud sleet]

Nice thanks, I'll take a look.
Would this mean I'd have to have for example, have all the skirt bones on the main character rig?
I'd like to avoid that if possible, for example if one armour piece has a unique flappy bit, I don't want to update the main rig just to accommodate that.

[fallow summit]

i think you should be able to have multiple armatures?

im not too sure

[hardy ermine]

crazy example model

[fallow summit]

yeah he has a very particular obsession apparently

but you gotta give it to him

the asset is fire

[proud sleet]

I'll do some reading on that, it's my first time doing a more complex character setup with all the modular armour 😅

[hardy ermine]

i'm gonna lose it this still isn't working

[proud sleet]

Ok, idea, but idk if it works like this. So I have a base character avatar, skinned mesh renderers for base body and the base humanoid rig.

For adding, let's say a skirt, could I add all the skirt bones in blender to the base rig, export the skirt into unity, then make a prefab with a skinned mesh renderer, add the skirt and set up dynamic bones.

Then when I'm equipping the skirt in game I instantiate the prefab, then retarget the base rig bones in the skinned mesh renderer to the base rig bones.

Would this work or am I missing something? I would try it but I can't access my PC rn

[flint sentinel]

Hey, I was wondering how you can go about fixing these baked light issues?
I already let unity generate the lightmap, and attached my bake settings in case I am doing something wrong.
Please @ me and thanks in advance!

[lapis elk]

Are the steps single meshes? If yes, merge them. You will always have seems between Meshes

[flint sentinel]

The stairs are a single mesh, it is multiple faces tho to avoid ngons.

And the thing is, I have 4 sets of stairs(8 sides), and only this one has the issue.

[lapis elk]

Is there a face "inside" the stairs, like between the steps that you only see when you look at it from inside?
Did you smooth the surface or are there the edges "made sharp"?

[flint sentinel]

I don't have any faces inside, it's the same geo for all 8 sides as I use an array mod.
As for smoothing, yes, I use shade smooth and then have hard faces as seen in the image.

[lapis elk]

I don't have any faces inside, it's the

[thin sierra]

: is there anythign special u need to do to get mesh lod working in unity 6.2, i cant see it working

[potent wraith]

Well, you need the lod group component that manages the lods.

Basically the same as before 6.2

[ivory hornet]

Is it feasable to create an environment made entire out of voxels with such lighting in unity? For instance this model in this sample image alone seems to have 40k faces. Are there any voxel based engines, which could optimize voxel based workflows?

[potent wraith]

40k is not that much. And for distant objects Lods could be used.

[ivory hornet]

I was just thinking of a static farm top down environment and the plants/foliage rapidly keep changing.

That would easily be millions of polygons right? But maybe, instead of treating them as regular meshes, could they be treated in a more efficient form?

I know there are few voxel engines for this, but not sure if they work for these kinds of cases

[gusty pasture]

With ray marching you wouldn't have to treat them as polygons at all.
See: https://github.com/Arlorean/RaymarchVoxels

[ivory hornet]

wow, this is sweet

Just in case this does not workout are there any paid options which would do the job as well

Like the voxel play 2 for example, do they help in this case?

[brisk nacelle]

yo!
does anyone have workflow experience with Blockbench to unity? Im especially interested in stuff like scale.
Trying to avoid making big models I have to scale down in Unity itself, any resources yall can share? thx 🙂

[fallow summit]

1 unit in block bench is 6.25cm

in unity its 1m

in other words, 16 units in blockbench is 1 unit in unity

[gusty pasture]

Cursed

[pale sand]

I want to ask something about how to pack PBR for assets, is it the place to ask here?

[gusty pasture]

I guess

[brisk nacelle]

thx!

[fallow summit]

I think because it keeps it to a 2^n ratio

Its why they chose it

[pale sand]

I want to make assets to sell on unity asset store, is there any correct way to pack PBR maps that'd fit all three rendering pipelines?

I mean, I am not sure whether I should use mask maps, or whether I should pack smoothness into Alpha channel of metalness map, and leave other maps separate.

Or I should make separate PBR setup for each Rendering Pipeline?

[gusty pasture]

It's usually done in a separate package

[misty lantern]

They use mostly the same setup
HDRP's "mask map" maps RGBA to metallic, occlusion, detail mask and smoothness
URP's "metallic map" is the same except for not using blue channel in favor of a separate detail mask map
Using base texture alpha for metallic map is probably the less standard method

Detail maps diverge more, as HDRP expects those packed also while URP has them separate

But because you can include .unitypackages inside the asset you can provide as many optional workflows as you want

[pale sand]

So should I basically make Albedo, Normal, and Mask Map per asset for each Rendering Pipeline?

[misty lantern]

Not when it's redundant
As with metallic/mask maps
And not necessarily when it's optional
As with metallic from albedo alpha

[pale sand]

Thanks.

[fluid oak]

It blows my mind that there still isn't a 'import all maps and it just packs as needed for your pipeline' option.

The image importer has most of the needed functionality but it is still a manual process

[eager mist]

Anyone have a good workflow to get MagicaVoxel -> Unity?

as it turns out, Unity doesn't do well with MagicaVoxel OBJs, the pivot and anchor points are messed up, and you have to assign the material manually. Any clues?

[misty lantern]

Like mentioned before, this isn't a promotion channel

[icy night]

I'm just showcasing but not promoting. Do I have to take it down or not needed

My apologies for going against then

[misty lantern]

Per the rules you should

[icy night]

Ok noted

Done but is there anywhere that's best to showcase my project in the server?

[fallow summit]

long term showcases #1180170818983051344

[misty lantern]

#1180170818983051344 for ongoing projects and #🏆┃daily-win for smaller one-off thigs, but the showcases should be using Unity in some relevant way
So a good opportunity to make the showcase interesting with a project

[fallow summit]

theres no casual/general or off topic here

every channel except those 2 is pretty much a help and questions channel

[icy night]

Ok thank you boss 🙏

[icy night]

Alright, noted and thanks 😊

[icy night]

Aiit, noted

[earnest sparrow]

why is unity auto divide my imported sprites? how do i stop it from doing this everytime i import new sprites into my projects

[spark orbit]

I had problem with a workflow where I have to 3D model around 800 houses in a low-poly style. I couldn't find assets or a fast workflow to make a lot of simple houses in Blender. So I'm developing a different kind of workflow of creating towns with unique houses, I've made this house editor: https://tistougames.itch.io/houseeditor
The idea is that the base mesh is created in this house editor, to get many different basic shapes, then initially use those in the game, and upgrade with adding normal maps etc.
In my specific case, I'm making a replica of a real town, the one I'm living in, and the houses doesn't really look the same, like I can't reuse houses for example. Each house needs to be fundamentally a little different.
I decided to share the tool for the public in case someone needs it.
What do you think? How would you solve a problem of creating a lot of simple houses?

[fallow summit]

This is not a self promo channel

Use #1179447338188673034 or #1180170818983051344

[spark orbit]

Thanks, I'm doing self promo there but the post here is a genuine question. It's a new kind of workflow I'm experimenting with, the tool is just one example of a solution but might not be the best solution.

[silver merlin]

can anyone help i dont know how to export a animation as a fbx

[winged obsidian]

what are you trying to export from? Blender?

[misty lantern]

This is automatic sprite slicing
You want to slice by sprite count or size
The importer cannot know how a texture should be sliced, so it defaults to automatic

That also means you cannot define importer presets or rules that would always know how to slice a sprite sheet

Unless your sprites are all the exact same size

[wise osprey]

Apologies, but I did not see a lighting channel so this makes the most logical sense.

I am getting these terrible seems between my modular pieces. Each piece does not have a UV2 and I allow unity to generate the lightmap UVs as it's simple squares.

[fluid oak]

Wouldn't a hard angle of 90 ish be more typical?

[wise osprey]

Lemi try! at ths point I am just messing with numbers

[fluid oak]

180 basically means no hard angles at all, which when you do have hard angles will almost always give you weird lighting issues like that because it will be trying to curve the normals around between the top and side.

If you imagine your modular meshes meeting like this, the red would be what a 180 degree smoothing angle is trying to represent.

[fluid oak]

Also, they inexplicably combined the lighting channel into #1390346776804069396, though I think that your problem does seem to be with the importer

[green latch]

Hi there. if i wanted to have a bottle with something inside should i model the bottle, the inside of the bottle and the contents?

[misty lantern]

If you want them modeled you probably should model them
What do you propose as the alternative?

[green latch]

I don't know, if there's a way to fake it so it looks the part and save on polygons

[flint sentinel]

Hey, not sure if it's fine to post a forums help request here, let me know if I should delete the message.
I've been dealing with this issue for quite a bit and wasn't able to fix it, and the forum post has been inactive for over a day, so I thought I might aswell ask here too.
https://discussions.unity.com/t/broken-lightmap/1701522

[fluid oak]

There are lots of tricks for faking it, you need to break down precisely what you want

[meager pike]

I've been working with 320x180 and 640x360 pixel art canvas sizes to get a feel for my game and assets. However, I feel like something right in the middle would be most suitable. 320 is too zoomed in, and 640 is too zoomed out. Anyone know how I can achieve something in the middle while still scaling to 720p, 1080p, etc. and not messing up pixel proportions?

[misty lantern]

Pixel perfect camera component can enforce pixel proportions, but not necessarily zoom or cropping
There are limited possible zoom levels for fitting pixel sprites into screen pixels without stretching

[potent wraith]

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[tawny grotto]

unsure where to post this but this keeps on appearing with my render texture whenever im trying to get it to work

[misty lantern]

#1390346776804069396
Also provide more details about how you're trying to get it to work and how is it meant to work

[hybrid crow]

Does anyone know some sites places to get free assets and textures from?

[outer halo]

The Unity Asset store?

[green latch]

Is this enought geo to add some dynamics to this cape, i was planning to use magika cloth something, the character is kind of furthish away from the camera, the whole model would be at like a 1/6 of the screen in size

[misty lantern]

Depends on the kind of movement and fidelity you need
You probably will have to just test it

[fluid oak]

I'm not sure what magika prefers but most cloth prefers an even density triangle mesh

[tawdry tinsel]

my mesh and rig works fine in blender but it doesnt work at all in unity... any tips?

this is what i get from trying the same pose in unity

the lower leg is not connected, the head is not connected, the arms arent connected and cant move, and the eyelids are not even close to the model

oh blender screenshot without bones just for reference

& heres what the armature looks like

[gloomy cairn]

If anyone can help me make something like this that would be great. Issue is that my textures look so flat and I don't know what I should do.

Honestly if someone were to just make it and send me the package I could learn how to make it myself after. But if anybody has any suggestions or ideas that would be great. Or any assets that might work

[tawdry tinsel]

Can you show me what your scene looks like by comparison?

This is a pretty complex scene & if you're a beginner who hasn't done anything like this you should probably go for something simpler

Do you know how normal maps and PBR works?

[gloomy cairn]

Yes just about everything

I haven't tried remaking it yet

I'll try to whip something up that looks like it

[tawdry tinsel]

try ur best! i can give you some tips

https://www.materialmaker.org/ @gloomy cairn heres a free and open source node based procedural PBR material software

this is what i use, its basically a free alternative to substance designer

its not perfect but it gets the job done

additionally, if you dont want to have to make materials yourself, this website contains a lot of free PBR materials! it doesnt have everything but it has a lot of stuff and is overall pretty solid!

[tawdry tinsel]

a lot of the assets in this image would pbe relatively easy to throw together in blender/probuilder as well

[gloomy cairn]

Thank you so much

I'll try it out and let you know

[tawdry tinsel]

for the background mountains, what i personally would do is find a heightmap of a real mountain that looks kinda like it and use a displace modifier in blender to make a 3d model of it

[tawdry tinsel]

good luck!!!

[earnest pecan]

I need some help trying to setup a map like this.

I've taken my NavMesh, triangulated it to a mesh and then captured it to a render texture. Which gets me most of the way there. But how would I get outlines on something like this?

[peak forum]

What is the recommended workflow for making it so you can customize colors/textures on your mesh? I know we can for example have several materials on the same mesh that we then color differently based on their assigned faces but I understand that is a lot of draw calls and expensive.

I can also make several "identical" texture atlases with color variations that we apply to the same mesh material.
I can also do multiple RGBA mask maps depending on amount of unique regions I want to color. But what is the standard or ”best” approach?

and probably 5 other methods of doing the same thing with pros and cons.

Anybody can give guidance?

[misty lantern]

Is your character made of separate objects, or non-mesh objects moreover
Simplest way to do it is to convert everything to mesh, join into one mesh and weight onto the armature as one object

[tawdry tinsel]

i left them as seperate objects to make it easier to modify later if i need to

ill make a copy of the file and do that though. thanks

[misty lantern]

You can keep them as separate, but you have to parent them to appropriate bones in Unity, as the exporter isn't likely to repect object-bone parenting
And in my experience it usually generates a redundant copy of the animation clip for each object that's moving with the rig, which you may need to remove at import or prevent them from being created on export

[manic ginkgo]

can someone please help me. I'm trying to make a dream core/ backrooms kinda thing and this is what i want to make and i just don't know how can someone please help me?

I heard i havent been asking questions but I'm new and just want someone to guide me through it

[fallow summit]

honest to god i still have no clue what im looking at?

are those clouds?

ice?

[manic ginkgo]

okay so

its a tunnel

its icy so when you walk on it you fall into the hole thats at the bottom and it kind of looks like a tornado,

i need help making the thing

i think its called a mesh

[fallow summit]

well the tunnel itself would just be a simple rectangle

you can make a model for it

as for the material

it looks like it could be procedurally generated with some noise

[manic ginkgo]

its not just a rectangle its kinda complicated i think my friend has a video of what im talking about, ill see if i can show you

[fallow summit]

i mean at the end of the day creating the mesh itself is probably going to be the easiest concept here lol

[manic ginkgo]

thats the physical thing right?

im sorry im very new here

[fallow summit]

do you have any experience in 3d modeling?

like at all

[manic ginkgo]

no

not at all

[fallow summit]

theres some fundamentals you should probably learn first

[manic ginkgo]

well i have made a very simple animation first but it wasnt anything crazy

like a few walls and thats about it

This is the whole thing

[manic ginkgo]

like what?

thanks

[fallow summit]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=peSv5IT5Ve4

this.

[manic ginkgo]

oh okay

thank you

[fallow summit]

Anyways my main point is that this is a pretty simple challenge to overcome in general and you should be able to do it given you learn some basics

[manic ginkgo]

yeah im watching it now

[fallow summit]

here just to prove my point i did something similliar in a few mins in blender

[manic ginkgo]

i already now some of the keybinds but im learning some

oh wow

[fallow summit]

mind you this video wont show you everything you will need for this

[manic ginkgo]

can u send me the pic or gif u used for the clouds?

[fallow summit]

but you need to start with the basics before you move onto stuff like procedural materials

[manic ginkgo]

your right thanks

[fallow summit]

there is no pic or gif.

its all procedural

[manic ginkgo]

no for the material

[fallow summit]

there is no image texture in that material

its all done procedurally

[manic ginkgo]

dang

i didnt know u could do that

[fallow summit]

the good thing is that it gives you a lot of control in how certain things look and turn out

its very useful

[manic ginkgo]

how did you make that?

what keybind

[fallow summit]

Keybind?

[manic ginkgo]

yeah

[fallow summit]

Theres no "one" keybind to do that.

Thats not how it works

[manic ginkgo]

extrude and rotate?

[fallow summit]

Oh you mean the tunnel?

Just a hollow cube with a a lot of loop cuts

And proximity rotation

[manic ginkgo]

yes

[manic ginkgo]

sorry to keep bothering you but what is this and how can i use it?

[earnest pecan]

Any ideas or suggestions on this?

[tribal pivot]

do you want to have an outline on the outer edges or the insides too? because i only know how to do it for the outside. and the simplest way for that is to do the inverted hull outline technique. since its 2d you can even do a simpler version of that

[earnest pecan]

I've tried inverted hull, but the triangulated NavMesh does not have the topology to support that. It creates holes/gaps basically everywhere.

[tribal pivot]

instead of an inverted hull try selecting all the edges in blender and just extrude (E) and thicken (alt+S)

[earnest pecan]

Oh, I can't do that either sadly. My maps are procedurally generated and not static. That's why I've been going the NavMesh route.

I bake the NavMesh and triangulate it at runtime. Then project it to a render texture.

[tribal pivot]

ah, what about an outline shader then? one that doesn't use the inverted hull technique. there are probably tutorials for how to make one but you have to make sure it doesnt use the inverted hull technique since it cant handle your mesh

[earnest pecan]

I've been working at this for a few weeks now, and I've definitely tried a generic outline shader. But I can't remember what the issue was. I will whip up another one and then post the results.

[gusty sequoia]

How do I add a material to one specific thing like the floors instead of one texture going to the wall and the roof of my map? How do I use material slots?

[misty lantern]

Assuming you're using blender you'll have to look up tutorials for assigning material slots to your mesh with it

You will probably need to learn UV unwrapping after that

[manic ginkgo]

@fallow summit How did u make the clouds? you said it was like ai or smn how did u make it?

[fallow summit]

Not ai

Staunchly against ai mind you

Its procedural noise

[manic ginkgo]

im sorry i dont understand

i want to get the same "cloud" effect

but idk how to

[potent wraith]

Research it. Look it up. Procedural and noise are very common concepts in gamedev.
You need to get into the habit of researching stuff yourself if you want to improve.

[manic ginkgo]

I looked it up and I wasn’t sure what he was talking about when he said procedural a noise or whatever, and so I wasn’t able to find an answer

My bad

[potent wraith]

I can see a lot of results that would help you start understanding it. There a lot of text results as well.

[manic ginkgo]

Mb, I also wasn’t quite sure what he was talking about I thought he used ai or some kinda code to do that, I’ll look more into it. Thanks ig

[potent wraith]

Code most likely, yes.

Or at least visual scripting/nodes.

Procedural basically means that you generate it with some algorithm in real time.

Procedural generation, you know.

[teal orbit]

Idk if this is the right channel, but I was thinking about faking movement on a mesh by having some sort of 360 camera project on to a render texture that is applied to an inverted sphere mesh that goes around the target gameobject.

I don't even know if this is possible in Unity. But the idea is that the target gameobject will stay stationary while the textures around it make it seem like it's moving around. Is this possible?

[potent wraith]

Sure. That's possible. If the texture is static, you could just rotate the uvs before sampling it in a shader.

[fallow summit]

In fact it was a total of 6 nodes in blender that created that effect

Its also relatively simple, just perlin noise fed into a color ramp, the other 4 nodes are the mapping, coordinate and a split node for the pixelization

[olive hollow]

I am trying to make a good looking environment for a group project but they all end up looking crap. Could someone help me?

The first scene is a dungeon so I was thiking making the 2nd scene an outer dungeon area but I have no idea where to start

How do I find inspiration

[fallow summit]

Would be better if you showed us what you created so far and what your references are

[olive hollow]

True. One sec

This the 2nd scene I was building before I scrapped it

And the first scene was just https://dkanese23.github.io/ecs657u-build/v0.3/index.html

And obviously the first scene is more poly like (mainly just assets) so I have no idea

[olive hollow]

Anyone?

[fallow summit]

Honestly i have no clue what you expect us to tell you

[manic ginkgo]

if i make a map in blender and i import it to unity is there a easy way to have a mesh collider?

[fallow summit]

You should not make the entire map in blender and import it in unity

Its not a good workflow

Greybox in unity, use blender to replace greyboxing with individual assets, replace in large logical chunks

[manic ginkgo]

if im understanding correctly that was what i was going to do in the ifrst place

[tribal pivot]

just put it into unity and put a mesh collider on it. if there's multiple objects you can select them all and add a mesh collider to all of them at once

[manic ginkgo]

thanks! if i do that with a model like the photo will it work or will it act like a cube if that makes sense

ig ill find out

[tribal pivot]

it doesnt have to be convex unless its a physics object, so yeah it will work 👍

[fluid oak]

I always start with the playable surfaces and adjust the terrain to fit instead of the other way around.

[manic ginkgo]

question how do i know if i need to check convex or not

never mind i think i got it

[manic ginkgo]

when im in side of my build my "box" is invisible and from the outside its normal can anyone help me fix this? i thought to flip normals but i cant

[misty lantern]

You can if you don't simply try to recalculate automatically
Face orientation view and flipping faces manually will solve it
Automatic recalculation only works if the object has clearly definable inside and outside with no discontinuities between them

[manic ginkgo]

I had to enable something in blender

[sacred grotto]

Hi all. Can anyone recommend how i should organize my texture files?
I'm targeting webgl. I'll do pixel art texture for a 2.5D game, so the tex file can't be compressed

I considered having several 4k atlas. Diffuse, normal, smoothness
But first, maybe 2k is enough
Then, maybe no need for diffuse and just use vertex color for color. So the "shape" of the surface is entirely from the normal and smoothness map

Then i thought, texture atlas means gotta load everything? If i wanna work with addressables then better to have many smaller textures for specific objects, right?

Maybe a compromise is also, not like i'll have no atlas at all. But i'll have smaller size atlas, like a 256x256 for all wood, wood board, wood pattern, related
And maybe a 128x128 for all mechanical, nuts n bolts, atlas
Plastic kinda material might not need much, but they do have shapes and patterns, so maybe having a material with a general pattern atlas, and its own smoothness map of choice?

Also then i thought, maybe for smoothness i only need a small "smoothness gradient map" which consists of.. idk 10x1 pixel of greyscale level of smoothness

So this means, vertex color for color. 1 UV map for normal map mapping. 1 UV map for the smoothness mapping. Having several texture atlas for the same "family" of material surface
And then the rest is the smaller texture set for all the specific textures and unique objects, and these gotta be each individual textures to allow addressables

For the more experienced ones, please comment on my plan
Cheers!

[misty lantern]

What kind of materials/lighting and textures do you have if you can consider replacing albedo and smoothness both with vertex colors or gradient values

And what are you optimizing for

Atlasing, addressables, vertex colors, gradient/palette maps are all compromises for alleviating specific issues

[sacred grotto]

Ooh ya i was also thinking of having VC.a for smoothness
But then how do i get alpha for cutout (which can't be VC and must be texture..)
Maybe from normal map's alpha?
So probably can achieve only having normal map

[sacred grotto]

Webgl, and android. I don't think i need a super optimized, low texture file size kinda thing (it's not like i'm planning to have >1000s types of props/textures), but addressable is for load time
And... i guess asset organization too

[misty lantern]

If you want concrete advice you'll have to demonstrate a bit what you're working with
I have no idea how you plan to represent 'pixel art textures' with vertex colors

[misty lantern]

WebGL and Android includes a lot of different devices
Even if you knew exactly how to optimize, you would not know which optimizations to implement before you've found out what your real world bottlenecks will be

Will the batching benefit of atlases beat the memory and vram benefit of individual textures? Will it be worth it to replace textures with additional vertex streams? You cannot say for sure unless you have something to test on the target platform and graphics API

[sacred grotto]

Sry i'm still being hypothetical for now. Gonna make the shader and test making barrel/crate tomorrow
I'm basically making octopath. Specifically this part
https://youtu.be/K6wW0pO08LE?t=1083
In there they're doing full pixel art texture on "bulging quads" kinda, instead of full 3D mesh. I wanna make a full 3D mesh instead (they'll be thrown around and spinning etc). So they can't be static batched

This is what my artist made, and i'll be going over it n figure out where to go from here

And anyways, i'm just not so experienced with graphics yet in general. Rather than trying to optimize early, my goal is to learn what kinda optimization and organization methods available, given my art style etc, so that i can work towards that
I just don't wanna end up with a workflow that goes against every existing possible standards/workflow

[tribal pivot]

dont check it unless you want to put a rigidbody on it and turn it into a physics object. which you dont want to do for your map 😉

[misty lantern]

These have color so I don't know how the color could be represented with vertex colors
Unless every pixel was a whole quad with its own verts

@sacred grotto Whether to use atlasing or not is just one optimization decision out of many
And I understand it's hard to plan around optimized and effective workflows before having experience of actually optimizing performance issues
But there isn't really a shortcut around that, eventually you have to face the issues that appear and start treating them directly
Performance tests can get you to those issues quicker, to potentially avoid having to rework so many of the systems later

[indigo jolt]

How do I make Unity use a specific UV for lightmapping my custom model? I've run into a problem where Im relying on smoothing and normals that I've set up by hand in Blender, and Unity's Generate Lightmap UV automatic functionality doesnt work (I'm smoothing angles that are more than 90 degrees, etc).
Im kinda drawing blanks everywhere. I know I can create multiple UVs in Blender, but how do I make Unity use anything other than UV0 for uuuuh lightmapping/lightbaking?

[ivory hornet]

I have this environemnt ready in Blender and I'm gonna have to get this to Unity. There is no way, I could get the same quality of lighting on Unity right?

[fallow summit]

you can get close but yeah, not the same

is this eevee or cycles?

[ivory hornet]

I tried recreating it on Unity, the lighting was ugly.

[fallow summit]

well it really depends on your approach lol

[ivory hornet]

Although I have very little experience

[fallow summit]

getting good lighting in blender is far easier because performance is not really a factor compared to unity

[ivory hornet]

Cycles

[fallow summit]

well yeah thats going to be tricky

[ivory hornet]

That's right

[fallow summit]

are you on urp?

[ivory hornet]

yes

[jovial niche]

you could get pretty similar stuff

[ivory hornet]

I tried for about 6 hours! I'm ready to settle for a slightly different approach as well.

[fallow summit]

have you been using baked lighting?

[jovial niche]

did you try post processing

[fallow summit]

also this

tonemapping is pretty important

cycles uses agx by default, you can use aces in unity

[ivory hornet]

No I haven't used baked lighting.
If its going to be baked, there is no way I can rapidly replace meshes in game

[jovial niche]

no you don't have to

[fallow summit]

yeah i was just asking

if you tried it

its not nescessary

imo the most important factor here is for you to nail your directional light and enviroment lighting first

that will have the most influence on your scene

[ivory hornet]

Right

[jovial niche]

add a volume to the scene too

[fallow summit]

add tonemapping set it to aces

some color adjustments and bloom

[ivory hornet]

Volumes don't work in urp?

[jovial niche]

fr they do

just create one

[fallow summit]

volumes is how you get post processing in urp...

youre thinking of volumetrics

and even then, it can be done

[jovial niche]

do right click>volume>global volume

[ivory hornet]

I'm also fine with delegating this to someone with better knowledge. If you guys know someone lmk.

[jovial niche]

in the scene

[ivory hornet]

Alright.
I'll try the volume
Bloom postprocess
and try tweaking the directional lighting

[fallow summit]

its always better to learn something even if you have to suffer through it

[ivory hornet]

I suffered enough ig.

[fallow summit]

you never stop suffering when learning

[jovial niche]

lol

[fallow summit]

thats the name of the game

[ivory hornet]

Sounds too optimistic. Is it even possible to get those soft shadows with reasonable performance?