💬-cells-chat

[lofty magnet]

Im that player that wants to finish. If i can't finish it all i dont start it. Because it feels wrong and not the point of the game

[turbid mica]

Ohh I see

[lofty magnet]

I love that even the hardcoure players seems to struggle with beyond. That the collection doesn't pay off as hard lol. Yeah it means months and months for me but finally in some reagrds

[fluid delta]

No, you see, that makes it easy! Just check every 5 min as you are watching, you can get events done easy

[lofty magnet]

With my brain is should be happy if I doesn't forget to eat lol

[fluid delta]

What counts as "all", here?

[lofty magnet]

To remember to check an app for min max is not the easiest thing lol

[lofty magnet]

All three badges

[quasi ivy]

yeah fair then id say start at like 1 day and 12 hours and if u play right u should be able to complete it and try those challenge levels to help getting ur top 10

[fluid delta]

Really? I do it often, when watching Youtube. I just know when 5 min is up and pause the vid, do the thing on the iPad, and go back to the vid. Or 10 min or whatever

[fluid delta]

That's doable, even for starting people, but it does take attention and time. It gets faster and faster each time the event comes up in the rotation

[quasi ivy]

im gonna make a guide on how to get top 10 consistantly someday

[lofty magnet]

Thursdays event ends works but the Monday is impossible due to when it ends on Monday.

[fluid delta]

I think there is a FAQ here already, not sure. It is no secret though

[quasi ivy]

just start it in like exactly a day from now and then just grind for an hour and rhen just check every now and then

[lofty magnet]

Im working on Mondays and it ends early afternoon here so can't min max at all before hand. Thursdays ends late evening and thats easier because im off on Thursdays

[fluid delta]

Nah.. you don't need to grind, you just need to go in and out of the event often (if mobile, and ofc you want that 4x ad boost too, or have infinity pass).

[lofty magnet]

Problem is tablet. Phone would be much easier but have tried export and it won't sync properly

[fluid delta]

Tablet is zero problem. Most of the time I play on a tablet (iPad Pro)

[lofty magnet]

Have just 45 % boost so won't happen that i finish in tome and I hate 45 because thats mean I have failed three badges once and that gets me slightly irriterad

[lofty magnet]

Tablet is not with me all the time. Can't look on event if im not at home

Sp the beyond will take its time. Perhaps I cave in if its some big sale on darwinum to boost it but likely it will take its time and thats ok also

For an example i just realised my sim had run for almost 17 days. Because haven't played for the last couple of days except for the daily log in and 5 darwinium. When beyond 30 drops im going to play more for a few days and then forget avout it. My life is slightly chaotic right now so my brain isn't with me

[quasi ivy]

im not saying you have to but if you do it will make your beyond progress a bit easier

wait lemme calculate how long getting ||flat universe|| will take without epic and rare cards

and level 5 traits for the sun

[lofty magnet]

I may now when the new beyond drops purley because im going to play more often. And hopefully some event happens that i have huge boost on or very easy to complete. Like cheese

[quasi ivy]

what a casual whould have in some way

[lofty magnet]

That would be fascinating yeah, because im not alone to be really casual

[quasi ivy]

yeah lemme calculate

im using 4 hours as how long it took me with the 2x offline gain thing

so 8 hours

and with 4x flux

so thats already 32 hours

then we got 64x income boost from epic cards

32x64 hours

and 16x boost from rare card

2^15 hours 💀

[terse latch]

anyone have advice for progressing on Beyond e9? unlocking ||pluto|| is brutal i'm only making 3.24e23/s and the things i need t oget like ranking up ||Ganymede, Triton, etc|| are like e27 or e28

[quasi ivy]

and for level 5 sun cards

thats x64 again

2^21 hours 💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀

becomes 2^19 with the 4x boosts active

[lofty magnet]

So 3, 4 months at least. But the thing is that along the way you may or may not find cards to help you

[quasi ivy]

what are your card levels at the sun?

[lofty magnet]

I know it equals years but in reality it may not take that long. Because of the fact you get stuff along the way

I will check my mess right know. The mess that haven't even the right constellations

[quasi ivy]

oh yeah i slso got the beyond capsule thing so 2^22

and constellations

[summer plank]

meow

[earnest steeple]

Has anyone had any issues with Beyond? When I go into it, just comes up with the camera and then won't let me out. I have to force close the game.

[quasi ivy]

so id avarage it at around 2^24 hours to get flat earth without rare and epic cards, level 5 sun cards and no other boosts from anywhere

[lofty magnet]

That is the cards on sun

[quasi ivy]

alr lemme see

so we take the 2^24

u got level 3, 2 and 2

so 8x4x4

2^24 ÷ 128

and u got extra levels on sun aswell

[quasi ivy]

so that number divided by 8

[lofty magnet]

Have a neutron star to pop but I will pop that when beyond 30 comes out for me and Im a bit in to the episode

[quasi ivy]

and what do the constellations that boost ur sun do?

[rough axle]

X3

Scorpio is x1.5 to all celestial bodies and Aries is x2 to all stars

[quasi ivy]

alr

[rough axle]

-# why do I have this memorized

[quasi ivy]

so that number divided by 3

[lofty magnet]

One is x2 speed and one is x1,5 speed

[quasi ivy]

snd then u got how long it will take you

[clear zenith]

No UI or anything?
-# (I'm not sure I can help with this, but if it does it again, it might be worth your time to screen record it and make a bug report)

[quasi ivy]

so 2^24 ÷ 2^7 ÷ 2^3 ÷ 3

thats how long it will take you on avarage

[clear zenith]

If it's not repeatable though, sometimes things just don't load in right and reloading the game fixes it

[quasi ivy]

in hours

[earnest steeple]

No UI, I will screen shot it and put it in the bug report, it has been going on since the last two updates.

[lofty magnet]

Around 5000

[quasi ivy]

about 2^12-2^13 hours

[lofty magnet]

So a year or so

[quasi ivy]

24 hours is a day

[quasi ivy]

damnnnn

[lofty magnet]

But it will be shaved of f purley because you will find cards and traits along the way

[clear zenith]

5000/24 is about 200, but still a long time

[quasi ivy]

flat universe going in the neutrino expansion gang

[quasi ivy]

if u add 4x boost from the u know what boost then its 50 days

[lofty magnet]

Ywah, a year or so. I think it was like 5400 hours but yeag

[clear zenith]

200's just over half a year lol

[lofty magnet]

I always have so.e boost on so it will be shaved off

[quasi ivy]

50 days to progress one trophy

[quasi ivy]

u gotta have it going for 50 days straight in that case

[lofty magnet]

And thays the beautiful thing of slow play, when you get there the feeling is great

[quasi ivy]

yeah

[lofty magnet]

Its the last episode so no rush. Is int even finished with prestige 3 on meso even if I have played for 9 years or so or when it was realised on android

[quasi ivy]

i can only imagine the horror people with no gold cards have to go trough

[clear zenith]

man all this discussion about late Beyond just makes me...so...excited...to get there very very slowly

[quasi ivy]

we can calculate your time if u show us your sun boosts

[lofty magnet]

The people that have just started beyond, because to get to 29 doesn't require that much really

[lofty magnet]

Join me in the slow quest lol. To be the weird ones that take its time and not rush it lol

[clear zenith]

well I'm only on e21 but here ya go

[lofty magnet]

Purley because I have played for so long I have gathered cards and traits but if you haven't played for more than a year you are really going to struggle.

[clear zenith]

oh look at that I could level it to ||20|| (that is the max, right?)

[clear zenith]

I've been playing since January 😥

[lofty magnet]

This year or last year?

[clear zenith]

this

[lofty magnet]

Oh man and you are that far in. That's impressive

Have played since 2020 because according to Google play the app dropped then

[quasi ivy]

in ur current state it whould take around 2^21 hours cuz of ur low sun traits and small epic and rare card amounts (im ignoring the upgrade boost and episode boost cuz those will be max when u get to e30)

[clear zenith]

Yeah I noticed early on that my Beyond progress was higher than most at my rank. Idk what I'm doing differently though 🤷‍♂️

[quasi ivy]

im gonna make chat gpt calculate these thing for me so i dont have to suffer estimating it myself

[lofty magnet]

Min max most likely. You joined when its the thing

[clear zenith]

I don't wanna math how many days that is, yikes

[quasi ivy]

in comparison

2^6 is 64

[lofty magnet]

Didnt play for two years or so, picked it up again after the reboot last fall.

[clear zenith]

for Beyond? other than choosing specific research missions I'm not really sure what that'd be

[quasi ivy]

so 64x64x64x8 hours

😭

or 8^7 hours

[lofty magnet]

People have accumulated strategies over the years. That wasn't a thing early on

This conversation wouldn't have happened 3 years ago for example

Because then it was just playing that was the thing. Traits and cards didn't matter etc.

[clear zenith]

assuming I can math good that's 200+ years

[quasi ivy]

yeah i like how e30 is like the hardest challenge in c2s so far

[quasi ivy]

😭😭😭

thats without 4x flux so if u got that one on its 50 years!!!

[lofty magnet]

Now you are screwed if you haven't the right thing purley because of the max min hard-core stuff that have forced the devs to a new direction and on the way screwed new players because they haven't the right tool

[clear zenith]

oh trust me I am not thinking that hard about it. took me too long to realize I shouldn't waste my dark matter on old cards

[nocturne osprey]

for whoever played beta, whats the strat for e30

[amber canyon]

Hey, I just saw the new Google achievement thingies. I know it's early days, but find the % players quite funny.

[quasi ivy]

only old cards u should consider using ur dark matter on is the ones for sirius and the sun

[quasi ivy]

irs cuz loads of people havent logged in yet after they added them

so prob gonna stay cursed for a while

[clear zenith]

ha. I can pull up some more accurate numbers on Steam (I also heard someone mention that they couldn't get achievements for things they'd already completed?)

[quasi ivy]

like 90% of the players wont check on it again so

we got rare badges woo hoo

[clear zenith]

huh.

[quasi ivy]

steam had those for way longer

so those are accurate

[nocturne osprey]

?

[lofty magnet]

For example I have a 1000 martain city's but not 1000 Martian factorys and to get that now is impossible. Most likely i had 500 Martian city's and then they changed to 1000 and got that anyway

[quasi ivy]

concerned how only 85.3% got that though

[clear zenith]

less than half of steam players have reached humanity

less than 40% have singularity

[quasi ivy]

get allot of epic and rare cards and boost ur sun and sirius as much as possible

[lofty magnet]

How do you fins achievements on Google play?

[quasi ivy]

new wirh the update

if you see those appear it means the update is out

[nocturne osprey]

do i wait til i get all new e30 cards before popping black holes?

[lofty magnet]

Haven't the beyond 30 yet

[quasi ivy]

yes

always do that

except if u finished e30 ofc

but u get the point

[nocturne osprey]

i heard someone saying the first new card was best, and to use all stuff to get as much of that first card as possible

[lofty magnet]

The beyond 30 is out now but is the achievements in the game or on Google play

[quasi ivy]

id consider completing e30 as a harder challenge then 200 gigantosaurus

[lofty magnet]

I see the achievements now in pmay

It took a second to load

But the update is out almost a day before schedule release

[quasi ivy]

theyve always been in the game just adding in googleplay now aswell

[amber canyon]

That seems weirdly high?

Like don't most people download it, poke around for 5 mins then never open it again?

[lofty magnet]

Haven't a single one. I hope they update when i launch the game lol

[dry cairn]

The part of e30 when the Sun is the best generator is where people are getting stuck and BH's dont help with that.

[lofty magnet]

They did indeed oops when i launched the game

[quasi ivy]

u need blue stars for that

[amber canyon]

Before the reboot the highest achievement on civs was for 250.

[quasi ivy]

hence to why i want there to be an option to choose between black holes and blue stars

[lofty magnet]

So how on earth did I get credit for 1000 then

[quasi ivy]

also i want that comet card

[lofty magnet]

Something feels off but not going to complain

[quasi ivy]

im gonna gamble again

[clear zenith]

I mean, plenty of early-mid game milestones like reaching Meso lvl50 or completing a constellation have completion rates less than 10%

[amber canyon]

I searched for the game, and when I clicked on it it showed me them.

[quasi ivy]

istg if i dont get it after like 30 episodes and 10 blue stars and 10 yellow stars

[clear zenith]

would've thought unlocking the reality engine would be higher than 10.6% of players after RR though

unless the trigger isn't right. I've definitely gotten some achievements at the wrong times and assumed the triggers weren't updated after RR

[lofty magnet]

The achievements did pop but it doesn't show on Google play. So great. Or not

[amber canyon]

If you had it for 250, you kept it when the Devs made it 1000. An odd decision imo.

[quasi ivy]

still nothing 😔

[lofty magnet]

Yeah because apparently I didn't have 250 Martian factory and now its impossible to get

[quasi ivy]

GAME WHY ARE YOU DOING THIS TO ME

[clear zenith]

what, the unknown silver trait? I think I unlocked that at like e19 or something dumb

[quasi ivy]

its a comet one

i dont need it for the boost

[amber canyon]

In a few updates it'll be possible.

[quasi ivy]

but i need it for the 100% beyond

[clear zenith]

I think I got all my missing ones from red dwarf missions

wait noooo

[lofty magnet]

Oh lovely, everything has popped in the game but google llay doesnt update so have 0 achievements even if I have done many of them. Great feature or not

[quasi ivy]

which makes it even more annoying that i havent gotten it when i have progressed trough 30 episodes of the beyond and opened several blue and yellow stars

[lofty magnet]

Hopefully

[quasi ivy]

they popped up after a while for me

[clear zenith]

yep, that's what I've heard. In game achievements you've already earned don't transfer to google play

[lofty magnet]

And thats sucks

Because i guess some of the secret one ypu can't earn more than one time and then you are screwed

[amber canyon]

Generally? I saw people discuss a few that seemed glitched, but not whole swathes not being awarded.

[quasi ivy]

i got most of them

missing some major ones though

[lofty magnet]

After like 5-10 minutes it still shows zero for me. So lovely. Hopefully it updates during the night. Its like 11 pm here so should start to think about bed. So won't start beyond 30 tonight but after work tomorrow

[quasi ivy]

like unlocking meso and beyond but also shark week

dw they will fix it

[clear zenith]

I forget who mentioned it and when but I swear I saw someone say that they weren't getting anything they'd already unlocked

[quasi ivy]

if it got reported they will go on it

[amber canyon]

Must have missed that.

[lofty magnet]

11 minutes after update and launched the game, still 0/41. So really bugged

[amber canyon]

You don't seem to be enjoying the game 🙁

[lofty magnet]

Have played for 6 years and have like 256/272 achievements in game is really weird lol

And thats not all of course thats just the prim sim

[clear zenith]

uh. is this off-center for a reason? (Meso)

[quasi ivy]

just calculated

if you got nothing that boosts the sun besides the episode boost and rank up boosts... it whould take about 500k years for you to get ||flat universe||

[lofty magnet]

Lovely. They maybe did make it a tad bit to hard lol

According to Google play I have played Cells for 59 hours, it seems low so dont now then they started the calculation

[quasi ivy]

dw ur like forced to have a couple base sun upgrades and some epic and rare cardss

[warm umbra]

https://tenor.com/view/fnaf-ignited-bonnie-jumpscare-meme-gif-4646093562718691418

[quasi ivy]

im gonna make a calculatorrrr

[warm umbra]

what if i have EVERY buff known to mankind on the sun

how long would it take

[lofty magnet]

We have entered the time of mjcro transaction to translate it loosely

Some achievements have popped but not all and weirdly it just shows in the summary and not if you look at all

[amber canyon]

Oooh. I just found my comment from when I first played the game. May 2019 (for about a month iirc)

[lofty magnet]

I may also have started then even if the apps says it was out on 2020

[amber canyon]

OP compared to reality. Devs pls nerf.

[white egret]

well it took us 4.5 billion years, so the game seems ahead

ah same joke lol

[quasi ivy]

truly lovely

[white egret]

i got my first ach on jun 2020, but i played for like 5 minutes then

[quasi ivy]

or u play allot of exploration events before episode 18

[lofty magnet]

The game has made its way to microtransactions if they dont fix this. Because it shouldn't punish casual players in that extended

[lofty magnet]

Yeah but that is not always the way. If they dont choose to put the beyond things earlier on the leaderboard.

[amber canyon]

Does it punish casual players?

It rewards players who engage with it. Not sure that's the same as punishing casuals.

[lofty magnet]

If you need rare cards yeah in some way. Because that is not easy obtain if you doesnt purchase back holes

[dry cairn]

Anyone that wasnt around when events used to reward Series1 cards might get stuck at that part of e30 for a while.

[polar viper]

only microtransaction which has actually impact is the last astronomy mission slot and infinity pass. all the darwinium stuff is just minor in the grand scheme of big boosts we always get left and right.
black holes -> play events?

[lofty magnet]

Also that. I dont think i was around the if I played the game at the time

[quasi ivy]

imean it can take ages if you dont got allot of epic and rare cards

[amber canyon]

That's still just a lack of reward though. Not a punishment.

And casuals won't care? Or are you suggesting an 'Easy mode'?

[clear zenith]

unless there's a series three I'm unaware of, I'm not that worried about my ability to get enough cards (I think). I've got 1-2 levels in almost all the rares and epics I've unlocked currently (at e21) - how many is ideal for e30...?

[quasi ivy]

maybe a beyond guide that tells people to not go to e18 but wait a bit till u got some blue stars piled up

[lofty magnet]

I dont care about time and are casual but it shouldn't take 500 years to complete something really

[amber canyon]

I could support an Easy Mode for those players who just want to see what everything is, but don't want to put effort in.

[dry cairn]

Speeding through the early levels of Beyond just got a downside

[lofty magnet]

Like prestige in meso. You finished it all but you can continue. They could have made some twist on that

[clear zenith]

if you're so casual you don't even notice that you can update cards I'd be a little worried. it's got to be impossible to not get some rare and epic trait cards by the time you get to e30, even if you don't do missions

[amber canyon]

It'll take me ages to complete any game I don't play often though?

[clear zenith]

that would (hopefully) reduce the amount of cheaters we get in here

[polar viper]

only temporary. if you properly do red dwarves all the time, the time you reach the point and you definitly dont have to wait 500 years

[lofty magnet]

Yeah I know. But yeah. It still a tad bit too long in my opinion. But I dont care, it takes it time it takes and have some rare cards and will certainly have more after a while

[coarse narwhal]

What is this constellation?

[lofty magnet]

The thing is that if you play like me red dwarfs isn't the way. Because sometimes It goes days before I even play

[lofty magnet]

Yeah but not 500+ years lol

[amber canyon]

I think we'll have to agree to disagree.

I mean if you opened Beyond once a year and only ever bought one Sun generator at a time, it'd take millions of years. The games progresses faster as you play it more.

From your comments today, it just seems like you want it to be easy (quick) for you.

[nocturne osprey]

does 1.5x universe speed mean all things in beyond or are universes there own generator?

[tranquil rivet]

(Beyond question) ||Is the trophy node leaderboard the same between the main game and beta? I saw #💬-beta-chat message which was 1,052, and all the more recent ones after the announcement don't go below that? As far as I can tell||

[dry cairn]

Same. Live started at 1200-ish

[white egret]

^

[amber canyon]

Probably?

[lofty magnet]

No absolutely not. It will takes it time and im okay with it but it shouldn't be that you are forced in to a strategy and ways but yeah. I

[white egret]

havent looked too deeply but im pretty sure its the same

[lofty magnet]

Because early days you wasn't forced in to a strategy at alm to finish stuff

[coarse narwhal]

Anyone knows?

[nocturne osprey]

?

[clear zenith]

it's only going to take 500 years if you actively avoid doing things like buying card traits, lol. it's meant to be that, by the time you get there, you'll go much faster than that. even a casual player who isn't perfectly optimal will be able to go much quicker than that

[coarse narwhal]

Buying card traits? Is that a thing?

[dry cairn]

I assume all.

[white egret]

just another way to say "upgrading cards"

[coarse narwhal]

Ah

[amber canyon]

Stingray Nebula

[tranquil rivet]

#💬-cells-chat message Bro playing singularity to cell

[polar viper]

took me 6h to reach flat universe, i play the game for 3 months and never bought any blue star
only red dwarf mission and my series 1 trait cards are all medicore. rares lvl 3-4. sun lvl 7. nothing crazy whatsoever

[coarse narwhal]

What? Constellation?

[amber canyon]

For finishing Ara.

[quasi ivy]

alr i effectively made a calculator for calculating the time it will take to get ||flat universe||

if yall wanna know what suffering you are going to endure send a pic of ur sun boosts

[white egret]

what is with the point about upgrading the sun? aint it the worst generator?

[quasi ivy]

beyond e30

[white egret]

tells me nothing

what abt e30 upgrades the sun

[amber canyon]

It gets boosted in E30.

[quasi ivy]

yeah u will see

[amber canyon]

A booster!

[quasi ivy]

can i see ur stats

like boosts on the sun

[white egret]

right thx

[warm umbra]

https://tenor.com/view/fnaf-ignited-bonnie-jumpscare-meme-gif-4646093562718691418

[coarse narwhal]

Thank you so much

[amber canyon]

You requested pics 🙂

[polar viper]

not accurate anymore because im far further now :S

[quasi ivy]

alr lemme see

id asume ud upgrade the sun traits

[lofty magnet]

Absolutely but it some rgn also but yeah. My brain has shut down. Its time for bed i think

[clear zenith]

sleep well 👋

[quasi ivy]

if u didnt upgrade any traits, it wont change anything for the calculator

[polar viper]

it did because of the next ending nodes.

[quasi ivy]

those dont matter to the calculator i need to see ur traits and boosts of the sun not the amounts

i can just ignore the post universe ones in that case

[amber canyon]

Got 2500+ cards for both traits.

[quasi ivy]

im gonna take 9 alr?

[dry cairn]

It took me over a year to do the 10 prestiges of Meso. I never felt any pressure to get to the end of the side simulations as soon as possible.

[clear zenith]

I feel like my motivation to do Meso has definitely tanked now that there's really nothing new to unlock. Prestige 2 rn

[lofty magnet]

Same, prestige 3. I want all the achievements but yeah. It takes time

[quasi ivy]

a grand total of about 2 minutes

with level 9 traits on the sun

[amber canyon]

I don't even know what emoji to use ...

[quasi ivy]

id say 4 mins cuz like ur not going afk for like 2 mins for that extra income boost

[warm lodge]

Time to open some of these bad boys.

[quasi ivy]

lets go gambling

[quasi ivy]

lemme calculate your time rn rq

[dry cairn]

I don't want to open them. Im leaving them until they become completely useless. 😁

[quasi ivy]

yeah u got overleveled epic and rare cards and high sun cards if u upgrade them so

[tranquil rivet]

😭

[quasi ivy]

that pushes down the time by allot

[amber canyon]

Yours are like a comfy but threadbare pair of slippers, right?

[dry cairn]

Yes. And I must hoarde the stash

[quasi ivy]

lemme recalculate ur estimated time btw @lofty magnet

[amber canyon]

Dragon imagery. Yup. Much more impressive sounding than the imagery I used. Sorry!

[warm lodge]

Does anyone know this highlighted (hidden?) achievement in the corner right under?

[amber canyon]

Not yet. Some ideas floating around in beta chat

[lofty magnet]

For beyond or meso?

[quasi ivy]

beyond and its an improvement

its about 21 days

about the time the 21 day strat took actually

but that is with the double offline income

[lofty magnet]

Seems right. To add to that im off next week because of Easter. So have 5 days off so plenty of time to play and log in frequently

[quasi ivy]

so 42 days really

which is close to the 50 days i estimated earlier

[quasi ivy]

and who knows perhaps you can double the speed by upgrading any sun related trait

[lofty magnet]

Exactly. Dome luck and I find the right cards in white dwarfs to boost late generators. And maybe have some red dwarfs in

[quasi ivy]

its 4x 42 days if u dont got the 4x speed boost active btw but u said ud have it active so

[quasi ivy]

just try getting any card that is on the sun interface

[lofty magnet]

Perks of mobile is boosts so it should be used

[quasi ivy]

yeah xd

[lofty magnet]

Or atleast have 2x if you dont boost enough ads before bed lol

[quasi ivy]

got so distracted with beyond, i forgot i gotta do arts event tomorrow

[quasi ivy]

yeah lets say its around 50 days of waiting

according to maths

[lofty magnet]

That's the downside of boost. The ads and sometimes you get really bad ones that goes on for hues and you can't report them

[quasi ivy]

yeah....

thats why i got my trusty infinity pass

[lofty magnet]

I donr want to use real money but perhaps it will happen. Did just splash out all of my points on Google play to another game. When you get 1000 points you get 70 kr (around 7 dollar i guess) to buy stuff on. I should have used them on an infinite pass is guess

And because of this point system I have many subscribtions tied to Google. Spend money and get points take its time but is worth it in the end

[quasi ivy]

i usually dont spend money but c2s deserves my money

[warm umbra]

@quasi ivy how long will it take for a fully maxed out sun to get me to flat universe

[quasi ivy]

its litterally my childhood and the gama im most dedicated to rn

[quasi ivy]

show me the boost on ur sun generator

[warm lodge]

Infinity Pass is expensive. At least in EU and USA.

[lofty magnet]

The length of beyond can perhaps make a month of infinity pass worth it.

[warm umbra]

playing terraria with my friend so i cant rn

[quasi ivy]

then i cant tell you rn

[warm lodge]

I get it via Turkey. Then it is good value.

[lofty magnet]

Yeah. Let me check of much it is in Sweden

[warm umbra]

all i remember is sun being lvl 20

[quasi ivy]

then id suggest gettng the beyond accelerator thing instead cuz it gives a shorter infinity pass but 2 black holes, and 2x gain for everything

[white egret]

could u link the current thoughts? i wanna see what ppls ideas r

or js like what ppl thought itd be

[coarse narwhal]

What?!?

[white egret]

if you got top place every event thisll still be like 2 and a bit months

[warm lodge]

I saved them up so I can get the new trait cards with them.

[amber canyon]

Mainly the three in this message and the one after - #💬-beta-chat message

[lofty magnet]

Infinity pass 30 days is 179 kr, around 20 dollar. Beyond accelerator is 265 kr, around 28 dollars. The infinity pass is way cheaper for a longer time and boost every sim

[coarse narwhal]

But how you got them

[white egret]

ah so just easter or april fools?

[quasi ivy]

true

but u can choose in the end

[warm lodge]

Being in the top 10 with explorations.

[quasi ivy]

i might make a calculator for sirius and messier aswell

(messier becomes the main generator later down the line)

[lofty magnet]

The thing with beyond is the dark matter perks but 100 kr more is not much but not little either

[white egret]

itll only take a week to find out then (unless its a secret 3rd thing)

[lofty magnet]

I can buy 5 1 liter lactosfree milk for 100 kr here in Sweden just to throw out some value of the currency. So infinity pass is not the cheapest here

[dry cairn]

I dont spend money and havent spent much time in the game on a per day average. Years of a few minutes per day. You get to the end game eventually with any playstyle.

[white egret]

does CL even price match? they could just be using currency conversion only

[quasi ivy]

there are some smaller packages in the main sim that give you 3 day and 1 week pass for cheaper prices with 2x idea and 2x entropy gain

[lofty magnet]

Not me either. Only time I have had infinity pass is when its free amd after the reboot you had it for three days for free

[dry cairn]

I did buy the Black Friday deal for $3 or whatever it was.

[quasi ivy]

yeah i got that one aswell

i forgot the price too xd

[lofty magnet]

Ywah. A big sale would be a benefit now. And one thing they could have done is give a free pass now when the last beyond is out. Like a slight nudge and thanks for playing. Special because they see how have played since the beginning or not

[bitter sonnet]

what rank do people get their common traits by rank 50 of the first prestige?

[fading drum]

E30 tomorrrow trust

[quasi ivy]

hey its lou brawl stars

anyway interested in knowing how long ur ||flat universe|| grind will be when u get e30

[dry cairn]

Upgrade the cards for the best Dino at the moment if things feel slow. Other than that, no reason to take high.

[quasi ivy]

YES

FINALLY

THAT TOOK WAY TOO LONG (and way too much darwinium)

finally got all traits

i can sleep peacefully now

oh yeah i should prob finish e30 first

[bitter sonnet]

thanks! I will see then about putting a level or two to the high ones, since I have at 9-10

[sand slate]

That beyond 30 update really changed the scaling😔

[quasi ivy]

good for me i got them all before the change

[lofty magnet]

Not to be that person but I may have that and just stumble across that

[quasi ivy]

everyone has it but me and the game refused to give it to me

like spend atlast 1.2k darwinium trying to get it

thats insane

[lofty magnet]

And not to be that but its level 2. And haven't purched it with darwinum

[quasi ivy]

my hard earned darwinium 😭😭

fair

[lofty magnet]

In fact I have spent a few darwinum on stars but not many.

[quasi ivy]

i hear that allot of people are having issues getting the oort cloud one

[lofty magnet]

I just stumbled across it I guess

[warm lodge]

I'm not using normal notation. What changed there?

[bitter sonnet]

the game doesn't bias getting lower levelled common traits from geodes, right?

[lofty magnet]

I have one rare unknown series one star but thats it is

[sand slate]

Graviton used to be by faarr the most expensive thing there

[quasi ivy]

might be the oort cloud one

send a screenie of ur collection

[warm lodge]

I think the game is biassed by a lot to give you cards of the highest generators you have.

[amber canyon]

If you go to https://discord.com/channels/488478892873744385/751513380413505618 and type /help there's a useful Meso guide.

[lofty magnet]

Perhaps yes

[sand slate]

Like idea speed booster used to be like 400-500 sep knowledge per upgrade

[quasi ivy]

oh thats an epic card... thaat one decreases the cost

[bitter sonnet]

says to join a server

[sand slate]

Wait thats an epic not a rare

[quasi ivy]

its completly useless

so dont worry

[lofty magnet]

Its late and my brain is not functioning

[bitter sonnet]

so maybe I gotta go back in history

[quasi ivy]

almost

[lofty magnet]

But wait. When I check out cloud it says I miss one but not If I check in series 1 collection

But it may be that one

When I think about it

[quasi ivy]

just go look in ur tree for locked cards

[lofty magnet]

Of course it is

[warm lodge]

PSA: If you are opening expensive diamond geodes or black holes (etc.) you can save first, then open one or a few. And if you don't like what you got: just load game and retry opening them to see if you get different cards.

[quasi ivy]

yeah its really nice but i refuse to do that since it feels like cheating

[bitter sonnet]

okay my bad, there's like 50 bots with the /help, I wasn't aware that a specific one did. Thanks!

[lofty magnet]

Its that. The same. The useless one. Haven't started beyond 30 so stuff will be missing but have one neutro to pop after o have got all the generator of course

[quasi ivy]

its only gonna be important if you want to 100% beyond

otherwise u can just have it be locked

[lofty magnet]

And because of the sun business in 30 you may stumble into that

Because you need the red dwarfs to find sun and if you are stuck its only 20 darwinum to get a yellow one and thats not much when you can get 10 a day if you look at an ad

[quasi ivy]

yeah your not gonna need anything oort cloud related so u should be fine

[quasi ivy]

also dont forget the ressearch stars

[amber canyon]

It misses out that you want to start saving mutagen up around prestige 3-4 (or earlier). This is so you can get the last achievement quicker. The more the better, but ~3M is considered a good target.

[quasi ivy]

thats like max 90 dwarfs a day if u play every hour

[lofty magnet]

Yeah but with limited spots red dwarfs isn't a priority there yet for me. Run the dark matter ones and white dwarfs and the guarantee constellation there

[quasi ivy]

yeah

thats what i was doing aswell

but i should start your preparation for e30

[lofty magnet]

But perhaps the dark matter will be replaced if I start to play a lot. If I can pop 2×2 red dwarfs a day it may generate as much dark matter as the dark matter missions it self

But i also know its new missions and they take a spot. They should have added another spot in 30

But I have heard remours that white dwarfs have a constellation now that decrease time, is that correct?

[quasi ivy]

yeah

they nerf the time to 24 hours tho so not that crazy

[lofty magnet]

One takes 24 hours already so thats really bad actually

Why not decrease it to 12 hours. 6 hours more than the red dwarfs

[mellow carbon]

Interesting that they added a level 77 glitch in the beyond update. It switched it so bronze age is now the dominant civ generator.

[lofty magnet]

So good, one constellation is useless atleast

[bitter sonnet]

oh okay, thanks, dang 3m, and I barely have 70k right now oof

[quasi ivy]

lesss gooo

[mellow carbon]

It's intersting to me that everyone's racing through the beyond content. I'm playing it without 4x since I figure it will be months before we get another update to it.

[quasi ivy]

yeah idk

[amber canyon]

It gets easy(ier). As you get golds and silvers and other things, you don't need to spend much upgrading normal traits.

[quasi ivy]

if ever

since it says simulation completed

[lofty magnet]

This one is the last one

[mellow carbon]

They'll probably have a prestige system.

[quasi ivy]

yeah true

but still its the same as what happend before

[lofty magnet]

Weird. Really weird. Its the last episode so why not take the time down to 12 and add on more also. And i saw that its says constellation 1 on the star thing and we haven't gotten a second one.

[quasi ivy]

anyway i like to have stuff maxed so that i can focus on the events

[quasi ivy]

u could maybe suggest that

to make it less

anyhow since i completed the beyond, im going to sleep

[lofty magnet]

Perhaps. I think they will fix that sowmtime

[lofty magnet]

Mee too. It's 00.19 and definitely time to bed because work tomorrow

[quasi ivy]

also who knew messier was gonna be our final top generator

[mellow carbon]

Conversely I consider Mesozoic done -- it hasn't changed in over 5 years.

[warm lodge]

Ep 30 truly made the universe messier. :p

[dry cairn]

It would have been neat if they balanced it and all generators contributed roughly equally at the end.

[amber canyon]

Return of an old friend. For those of us who had it as top for nearly a year in E28 🫠

[quasi ivy]

so basically the beyond e30 got 5 phases
|| unlock universe, unlock microwave, the sun grind, the sirius grind and then the messier grind ||

[quasi ivy]

i got allot of traits for the cool black hole thing i refuse to name cuz its complicated but really cool so it was about as good as messier

anyway farewell im going into my slumberrr

[warm lodge]

Sweet dreams of black holes holding you tight.

[glossy cosmos]

Lol

[amber canyon]

Summon Wikipedia editor Elec???us Roman numerals should be IX (I assume). From https://cell-to-singularity.fandom.com/wiki/Observable_Universe#Astronomy_Mission

[rain junco]

Is the timer for White Dwarfs messed up? Feels like I've gotten way more than normal

[dry cairn]

the same 4h as usual

[white egret]

electorus?

[rain junco]

I guess we've gone early Roman Republic

https://teddybaldassarre.com/blogs/watches/iiii-roman-numerals?srsltid=AfmBOooAB6ysZs1NJ9dPlUdHQaqhESaI2aJivAN5q0PRyniMvegB8EB6

[amber canyon]

Yup. Just continuing my exploration of how good their auto alert thingy is.

[amber canyon]

Early, and can't count?

Anyway, 💤 for me.

[steep yew]

I had to start over cells because it somehow got deleted from my phone

Im... working on it.

While having NKG's ost playing in the background

[rough axle]

Did you back it up to the cloud

[warm lodge]

I guess your game storage got corrupted. I hope you have a crossplatform save to load.

[steep yew]

yeaaaaaaaa about that...

i didn't...

[rough axle]

https://tenor.com/view/pettyratz-gif-22155363

[limber pebble]

What does the star mean?

[steep yew]

Byeee :)

[warm lodge]

See if you got any local saves. If you got nothing at all, your last option is to contact Cell to Singularity support via e-mail.

[fluid delta]

I think it means you completed Beyond

[torpid minnow]

yes

[fallen sand]

You're playing without 4x because you want to extend its lifespan
I'm playing without 4x because I don't have it

[warm lodge]

I took most of my black holes and got everything at at least rank 8 (excluding rares and epics)

I had some bad RNG with Galactic Seeds, so I did some loading and retrying until I got that one to 8.

Messier is still the King with 1.19 E299/sec

[raw pawn]

Wait, am I reading it right that they want us to buy 1500 Observable Universe & CMB generators?!

[warm lodge]

Yes, and it is doable. You earn a TON more now.

Balance is completely different now.

[mellow carbon]

We both win then?

[fallen sand]

Yes, but s l o w l y

[mellow carbon]

I'll bet I still finish before they release a prestige system.

[fallen sand]

Given how long Meso has gone without new content, I wouldn't bet against you

[mellow carbon]

How many BH's did you use?

[raw pawn]

Okay, that's a bit of a relief. (the "earn a TON more now" bit) Looks like I'll just hafta put a pep in me step in getting the CMB unlocked

[warm lodge]

I opened 22 of them now. I opened more in the past.

But I had 25 saved. Now 3 left.

[wind summit]

the fact they havent changed this is crazy

[clear zenith]

when did they release it again? about a year ago?

[wind summit]

i think

[clear zenith]

I guess that was a time when they released new ones more frequently, so they never bothered to fix that considering there'd obviously be a new one a few months later

obviously

[wind summit]

ig

also can yall give me tips on how to make progress in the beyond

[warm lodge]

If stored well. Cheese can stay like new or age to become better than new quite well. :p

[wind summit]

i dont eat queso

[warm lodge]

I eat cheese every day. But I'm European and Dutch so yeah...

[clear zenith]

not every day but I'd say cheese definitely makes an appearance in my diet most days (the realness of the cheese varies :/)

[clear zenith]

depends how far along you are 🤷‍♂️

[wind summit]

im at the galaxies

like triangullam galaxy

[devout ruin]

Hey! I have all the amphibians and whatnot but am stuck with no progression in the primary simulation rn… any tips?

Like leveling up to 65 is just a struggle rn

Currently 63

[fallen sand]

The best strategy is ||patience||

[viral sphinx]

where can i find the local save on the steam client?

[fallen sand]

Really, though, it takes forever
Check the pins/faq for constellation priority, you can get a little boost there
Make sure you're running missions constantly (discount > dwarfs > rest)
Remember that rank-up gives a 3x multiplier
Probably not worth leveling the cards being rank 4 or 5 as a general rule

#🏠-general message

[wind summit]

ok

ty

[fallen sand]

Might be time to do empty sim runs

[devout ruin]

What are those

[fallen sand]

https://www.reddit.com/r/CellToSingularity/comments/1qx1neg/i_need_advice_on_the_time_crystal_stuff/o3tf6k4/
Or search the discord for 'empty sim'

The idea is you do a reboot and then buy nothing, wait for Time Chambers to max out, then play normally

It sounds dumb, but because of the way metabits/knowledge gains work it's necessary for the Time Chamber multiplier to be effective

[warm lodge]

They got nerfed HARD tho. It still works, but 100x less efficient as it was. And it now takes 14 days.

[devout ruin]

Yeah I just saw that in the post

But if all else fails I’ll def try that

[fallen sand]

True, but afaik they're still more effective than standard runs as early as Neoaves

I wish there was an 'end-game' bonus to side-sims

Like, finishing Meso is great for Primary but it doesn't help The Beyond at all. Would be nice if 'maxing out' a sim gave a global boost or something

Especially now that the Beyond is 'content-complete' as well

[devout ruin]

Yeah I am also not very close to finishing Mezo

I’m only prestige 1, 27 rn

[fallen sand]

It speeds up as you go

At least until you get blocked waiting on cards/Mutagen

[devout ruin]

I’m not very low on mutagen rn

So that’s chill

[fallen sand]

You might never be mutagen-bottlenecked if you're frugal with cards (or just unlucky)

[warm lodge]

If you can, open some diamond geodes once you are at (prestige any) rank 50

(Only open them at 50. Otherwise you get far less cards)

[devout ruin]

Wait that’s actually really smart

Alright I should be level 64 by like 7 o’clock

[warm lodge]

I mean at dino level 50. (or prestige level 50)

Not research level 50 in the main sim

Or am I getting confused?

[dry cairn]

Im confused that this is a real news headline today, though I should probably save stuff like this for general.
Quadruple amputee corhole champion arrested for shooting his friend.

[devout ruin]

Sorry yeah I switched topics without saying anything

I followed everything u said!

[dry cairn]

I predict that I can get from 79 to 80 in 2 weeks, so in reality, I'm sure it will take much longer 😃

[warm lodge]

Cool. You're really far.

I'm 79. But in the beginning of it. It will take long, very long before I'll be 80 in the current build of the game.

[mellow carbon]

Yea, it seems really unfair that I've got more metabits/knowledge then it would be possible for someone to get in a year.

[warm lodge]

Don't feel bad about it. Next game update will probably lift everything to a whole new level. And then all of out empty sim runs will be a marginal difference.

The only advantage for us, by then, is that we can get some of the new Reality Engine upgrades immediately. While players who did not do the 21 day strat have to complete a run fist.

[mellow carbon]

Depends on how much they boost things, but yes, I expect the difference to smooth out for knowledge on the next update (IR2 is next AIUI). It will be even longer for metabits.

[warm lodge]

Maybe the metabit side will stay in our favor for a longer time. But knowledge will be paved over with the next big update.

[mellow carbon]

Seems likely, but the people that were a fair bit ahead of me in previous updates have stayed there.

[dry cairn]

We have enough saved up to buy Tachyon Funnel thousands of times over.
Like you guys are saying though, they will probably make the next expansion be a big increase to make it negligible.

[mellow carbon]

Huh, math for me says 29k days to get to 80; bar seems to be going up faster than I would have expeted though.

[fading drum]

Wait is it out yet

[dry cairn]

Some mobile people did get e30 today

[fading drum]

dawww

tomorrow

[mellow carbon]

Yea, arrived mid-day for me.

[dry cairn]

I was just guessing. I should do quick math to test.

[mellow carbon]

I wonder how many objectives I'm going to complete beyond the 10 (and later 20) astronomy missions before I complete those objectives.

[dry cairn]

The 15 minute dark matter with 5x boost = 3 minutes

[mellow carbon]

Yea, I got 310k dark matter. It's not worth it. 6hours 2x/day

[fading drum]

noo Lunch I still don't have all the constellations

[dry cairn]

Just to complete the 20 astronomy missions quickly

[hollow pelican]

The achievement for mobile is broken, I tested it from steam and it worked fine, what is happening

[warm umbra]

https://klipy.com/gifs/low-cortisol-agnes-tachyon

[mellow carbon]

Since you can complete them out of order, and the reward is almost irrelevant (a white dwarf-like?) I'm just going to wait it out. I'd be amused if those were the last two objectives I complete.

[forest anchor]

Got it

[dry cairn]

The one with 20 astronomy missions is what unlocks the new generators

[mellow carbon]

well crap

[forest anchor]

Should be fixed

Elec???us does not show up in search tab btw

[dry cairn]

Rough math with auto clicker running 24/7 = 3 years to get to 80.
This sounds crazy.

[fluid delta]

A 15 minute (3 minute @ 5x research) Dark Matter mission counts. If you don't mind spending (200 total?) DW to rush them, you can get that 20 done in a few minutes

[dry cairn]

And under an hour for those that dont want to spend dw. (As long as you have the 5x boost)

[fluid delta]

True, since you can get some of the 1 hr (12 min @ 5x) ones in as well

[sacred wharf]

Approximately 105 per finger...lol

I feel like I've gotten 1112 before but sadly there is no record...

[dry cairn]

4 digits is always nice to see.

[thin notch]

Oh i thought the update is gonna be a week away

But nah, it's today

[gilded ravine]

Playing on Android. In the updated Beyond (Episode 30), I seem to be stuck in progress because I need to complete more astronomy missions, but it also tells me that there are no missions available.

[rough axle]

It’s impossible to run out because only the discount missions are limited

[fallen sand]

Electorus? No, Electoryou

6h to next upgrade in event

[dry cairn]

I got distracted by e30 yesterday. was lazy today. I'll start the event tomorrow

[forest anchor]

???

[fluid delta]

The dark matter stuff counts too. 3 min per mission (with 5x research), total 1 hour, though the 1 hr (12 min @ 5x) you can do concurrently, so it's actually a bit less.. or spend 200 DW total to speed them up and do it in a couple minutes

[dreamy echo]

probably because most punctation is ignored

? mightve got erased

it definitely did

it counts "elec???us" as "elec us"

[fallen sand]

Always "electorus" never "electoruk"

[acoustic thicket]

I finally turned 18 today

[fluid delta]

Congrats! You gonna celebrate?

[acoustic thicket]

for sure

[rough axle]

Hmm… what about electorth

[fallen sand]

Electorio

[mental stump]

I have a question about the Roblox server

[fallen sand]

Ugh, perfect nanobot uptime is only +28% so that's still 5h to wait

[vocal creek]

So if I've been hoarding black holes, episode 30 is the time to use them right?

[mental stump]

I saw in game there is one but ai couldn't find it in Roblox

[fluid delta]

Yup

[dry cairn]

wait until you unlock the 2 new generators so that youre getting cards for them.

[fallen sand]

I don't think I've seen any mention of that in game. Where did you see it?

[vocal creek]

That was my plan! Just wanted to make sure I'm not missing something. Thanks!

[fluid delta]

Right. So click on the Dark Matter tab

[fallen sand]

That tab is only for Discount missions. Don't the other tabs (Dwarfs, Constellations, Dark Matter) count?

[fluid delta]

they do!

[fallen sand]

Lend me some of your badge bonus, I want to finish this event

I'll give it back, I promise

[gilded ravine]

The 3rd tab, dark matter? It just let's get more dark matter. How does that help with missions?

[fallen sand]

All missions are "Astronomy Missions" and thus will progress the checklist

[fluid delta]

it's an astronomy mission. that's what you need to complete 20 of

The box there that has the 4 tabs literally says "Select Astronomy Mission". That's how you know.

[gilded ravine]

That's really confusing. All these years, you had to do the missions off of the missions tab.

[fluid delta]

That's not a missions tab

[fallen sand]

As you can see, even with the Dark Matter tab selected it still refers to them as "Astronomy Missions"

[gilded ravine]

Okay, let me do a quick one and confirm that the number goes up.

[fallen sand]

Thank you for reminding me to restart my WD though

[dry cairn]

There may have been an objective in the past where you specifically had to do a Discount Astronomy Mission so I understand the possible confusion.

[fallen sand]

There are definitely a few of those, but I don't recall the verbiage used

I believe they call out the specific mission name

[gilded ravine]

Yeah, all of the ones that looked like that were the discount astronomy missions so I assumed that these were the same and have felt stuck all day.

[fluid delta]

We're glad you asked!

[forest anchor]

Okay this is getting annoying. Please stop

[gilded ravine]

Yeah, it's been a while. I don't recall the exact language either.

[fallen sand]

Well, uh...good news! You're not stuck!

[gilded ravine]

Yeah, thanks for the help. It was confusing enough that it took multiple people giving me that answer for me to understand.

Yep, now 17/20 instead of 16/20.

[hollow pelican]

gonna abandon the event

[torpid dagger]

What? Rank up ||Observable Universe|| and ||Cosmic Microwave Background|| to Rank 20? All before Episode 30 is over? How the heck am I going to do that, considering that ||just 100 Cosmic Microwave Backgrounds right after unlocking it costs over 200 Qiqig, never mind 1,500 Cosmic Microwave Backgrounds? https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/734257024920977540/1486216502058160219/image.png?ex=69c4b27a&is=69c360fa&hm=7634acc84601d578d98f0b196cd85651f0969ecfde53033de00790768e6ebc94||

[fluid delta]

It's much easier than it looks. That Cosmic Geometry thing, that's what you want to get. That'll increase your income, and will reveal another thing. Keep going. You'll see.

[mellow carbon]

Also you have probably 6 months to finish it before any new content comes to beyond.

[steady dune]

Got the update on my phone

And bump up many Google play achievements

[mellow carbon]

Same here, I wasn't sure if it was intentional.

[steady dune]

Maybe people living in other countries have not got it

[surreal imp]

Anyone still here on pre time capsule version?

[hollow pelican]

Time chamber*

[surreal imp]

Yes haha

[hollow pelican]

anyway... No, I'm on the E30 rn

[clear zenith]

<@&535129309648781332>

[surreal imp]

Just finished another 21 days and now feeling like doing E30

Though its not released yet

[devout ruin]

How come it’s over half way done yet only a 3rd of it is applying?

[surreal imp]

Could be exponential

[devout ruin]

I’ll be waking up tmr so happy then

[spare fulcrum]

ban @low beacon hes a spam bot

[prime vale]

yeah

<@&535129309648781332> @low beacon scammer in #💬-beta-chat and #🎨-cells-art

[steady dune]

And every channel

[prime vale]

yea

[spare fulcrum]

so this is a real account?

[prime vale]

no someone prob hacked him

i dont even know how they get hacked by looking at some images

[spare fulcrum]

how would that even work

odd

[prime vale]

they probably go to the website on the image and download something and get hacked

but its a really obvious scam

[spare fulcrum]

a chinese guy is about to fall for it on the international chat

[prime vale]

is he chinese?

[steady dune]

... I just spoke they( use same picture as a progress to ...

[prime vale]

yeah he's chinese

[devout ruin]

Did you use google translate or do you speak (I’m assuming) mandarin?

[spare fulcrum]

no im korean

i used google translate

[devout ruin]

Ah Ggs

[spare fulcrum]

💔

[devout ruin]

I was about to pop off

Your like the 7th Korean I’ve meet through the server. Is C2S really popular over there?

[spare fulcrum]

i guess so

[devout ruin]

Neat

[spare fulcrum]

peak

[devout ruin]

You guys know what’s up

[prime vale]

this server might somehow be an attractor to scammers because i havent seen anyone send this scam outside cts server

[clear zenith]

I've seen it plenty

And sometimes in really quiet servers too

they just go anywhere they can it seems

[twin lagoon]

Btw does anyone know the current update version number

[prime vale]

44.86

[twin lagoon]

Wait really? So I do have it now then if that's the case

[prime vale]

why did mesozoic valley chat got removed after reality reboot update 🤔

[clear zenith]

because you don't have any Meso roles

[hollow pelican]

Haw haw

[clear zenith]

It's still there. I was chatting in it less than an hour ago

[hollow pelican]

there're 3 roles to access that chat, Paleontologist, Progressive Paleontologist, and Paleontologist Legend

[fathom stirrup]

Is it just me or I really don't like your name changed to purple color 😅

[clear zenith]

that's a different guy with a similar name to the other event hater/lover

different actual username

[fathom stirrup]

Oh great 🤪

[hollow pelican]

it may be just you, I like the red and purple

oh wait I thought...

yeah whatever

[fathom stirrup]

I thought it was kirby...

[clear zenith]

poyo?

[hollow pelican]

we might have a new number 1 lover/hater trend

[fathom stirrup]

Btw I also joined Beyond E30 club. Well it is 25th now so it was about the time.

[clear zenith]

tbf I haven't actually checked to see if it's updated but I've got 22 hours to go until it's guaranteed to be out

on that note it's 2am I need to go to bed

buh bye

[hollow pelican]

28, sooner or later

[fathom stirrup]

Nighty

Does the icon of the game changes every time there is an update?

[hollow pelican]

Yea, every single time

Makes the game more interesting actually

[fathom stirrup]

Nice touch. I didn't notice it changed when Time Chambers update happened.

[hollow pelican]

I was literally disappointed, because they nerfed the 21 days

[mild viper]

Atp, release all the achievements in mobile already 🪦

[fathom stirrup]

Yeah that sucks people don't get to do nothing for those 7more days 😅

[hollow pelican]

I can't seem to get all the beyond achievement and all the secret achievement although I already unlocked it in the game

[mild viper]

https://tenor.com/view/fentcord-true-coyote-gif-2599436844608872721

[hollow pelican]

Tomorrow is the 21st day and when you wake up... the limit becomes 14 days.. 7 days wasted 😭

[polar viper]

lol they even added the unobtainable ones like 1000 of each birds and mammals

[forest jolt]

Imagine if we were all in simulation

then some kid ends our reality for metabits

[hollow pelican]

c2s effect

[strange lark]

Hi that's me

Yall got 5 years left

[hollow pelican]

Tf is bro doing in our simulation

[amber canyon]

I'll be doing the same once I get to the end of E30.

All my stage 1 normals are at 7.
All my stage 2 normals are at least 8 (I want them to be 9)
All my stage 2 Intergalactic normals are at 9 apart from 4 of the E29 ones (I want them to be at 10).

[hollow pelican]

Please, you can wait 14 days (in your time) to finally reboot tho

-# extended

[strange lark]

My 14 days is your 14 years

[hollow pelican]

oh shit

wait you cheated

you can't have an 8 billion human generator

how many times have you rebooted

[rocky owl]

wooo cosmo 30 finally 😄 time to farm

[polar viper]

OK im done with e30. I kinda got over 200 darwinium from all the generator rank ups and missions 👀

Cant wait for beyond prestige to get even more

[gray yew]

Damn that was fast

[fathom stirrup]

Question rises: are we living in pre-nerf time?

[amber canyon]

Chat full of people saying it's to fast, and people saying it's too slow. Poor Devs 😭

Not long till I get it 🤞

[forest anchor]

Hopefully we'll finally get a goddamn Dev Diary or at least a Roadmap after PAX East

Like based on past ones

[amber canyon]

Yours is the official diary isn't it?

😁

[fathom stirrup]

I think it varies depending on how much BH and how developed trait cards are for each individual.

[amber canyon]

100%.

Well, hopefully the clear break between pre E30 and post E30 scaling will mean such a wide completion time range will be easier for the Devs to manage in any Beyond prestige.

(although if so, I'll no doubt be slightly grumbly about old-timers not getting any advantage over newer players 🤪).

[warm lodge]

Wow, congrats! You generally only do that once per lifetime.

[fathom stirrup]

if they keep the model of meso prestiges (keeping gold and silver cards) old timers would still have an adventage

[amber canyon]

The Devs said at one point they wanted to do Beyond prestiges once they did the last episode, but not like Meso. How different, and if it happens 🤷.

Although given how much buzz Beyond updates get I imagine they'll want to continue releasing content for it (or Space-themed anyway ... Human colonists are still out there, waiting).

[keen mango]

tapping funny evolution game > homework (ewww)

[desert flax]

plus you learn more

[keen mango]

i hate the fact that there are no brown dwarves in the beyond

like atleast add lugman 16 A and B/Teide 1

[wary warren]

What is this monstrosity of an amount of requirements

[hollow pelican]

i give up beyond

[mellow carbon]

People who have finished say that you're going to get really strong generators.

[mellow carbon]

I've cleared ~5 objectives after the astronomy mission and I'm not running at 4x -- I want to have content for a while.
Also it's likely to be 6+ months before the next beyond content update. You've got time.

[frigid grail]

Anyone else having trouble redeeming codes? Tried different internet connections, rebooting the game and clearing cache it just doesn't let me, says server request timed out

[gray yew]

If you count a mass extinction as a nerf, I'd say we're either pre-nerf or experiencing one (if you think we're living through a mass extinction right now, which I do).

[desert flax]

anthropocene

because of humans

[desert flax]

em dash! (some humans probably still use them)

[vivid mirage]

Omg once you reach the trophies, it is a pain to get through

I know that I complained on the previous episodes being quite easy, but isn’t this overkill?

[hollow pelican]

jesters laughing at your statement

[prime vale]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/993209232881090561/1483510281752809644/togif.gif

[indigo atlas]

Did you know that there were already mollusk achievements in the Reality Reboot trailer?

[hollow pelican]

Yes?

[indigo atlas]

I think this was an oversight in the trailer

[warped skiff]

are modules worth it, and if so, which ones

[true vigil]

the alpha beta things?

[hollow pelican]

Yes, and the most expensive one is the most worth it one

[true vigil]

i mean ofc the most expensive ones give the biggest boost

or is it actually the most cost efficient

[warped skiff]

I'm asking more on cost efficiency

[kindred comet]

coming back to the game after a year, what'd i miss?

[polar viper]

Everything that boosts metabit/knowledge gain is priority if you want to be efficient

The other stuff is whatever

[warped skiff]

this is probably the best one then?

[polar viper]

I cant look atm

But you could do the math

[true vigil]

i mean realisticly the idea/entropy/whatever production dont do much

[somber robin]

New reality engine, new beyond episodes, new animals, new civilization stuff

[somber robin]

The 300 costing one is the best

[true vigil]

main sim is basicly completly revamped

[somber robin]

Im still waiting for indus revamp

[true vigil]

cant wait for indus on beta

[somber robin]

Im already done with the (probably last) beyond episode

[true vigil]

how 😭

god dammit shoulve been farming those events

for the epics

[somber robin]

Theres already 2000 people done with it

[true vigil]

cuz rn i have to wait 50 days to get the next upgrade

and i started a few weeks ago on beta

[somber robin]

Probably lots of darwinium spent on stars and astronomy missions

[true vigil]

ok im kinda progressing i got .3 qasxg overnight

im deadass

[warped skiff]

that's a lot of clouds

[warped skiff]

there are 2 300 costing ones

[somber robin]

Then buy the both of them

[warped skiff]

wow

[somber robin]

Go by scientific terms so you know how many digits the number is

[true vigil]

i would but normal notation gives me more precision

[somber robin]

I am utterly confused by normal notation

[true vigil]

ok let me do this in scientific

i got 3e194 overnight

and i need 5e196

[somber robin]

Hmmmmmmmm

[prime vale]

this screenshot was taken in umbrella alpha that had mollusks since august 2025 or even earlier

[fringe lake]

i broke something

planets models didint load properly

[static ledge]

Hi, I have a question. Why GooglePlay showing some of my achievements? Today a got almost all of them but some I didn't get?

[prime vale]

they are currently bugged

you dont get some achievements if u had them before this update

wait for a bug fix

[static ledge]

Thanks for info ❤️

[fringe lake]

i broke more stuff

[tawdry parrot]

https://s8.ezgif.com/tmp/ezgif-8beed870f28de325.gif

bruh 😭

[hollow pelican]

Same problem here

[errant shore]

somebody who unlocked it, what did you do?

[hollow pelican]

grind

[errant shore]

what if I have 6,24e167 per sec 😭

that would be like 10 years to grind

[quiet frost]

Check which Generators are boosted by the unlock, the order which generators are the best may have changed

[errant shore]

could you please tell how can I check I’m really bad at seeing info

[quiet frost]

I wrote a PN not to spoiler any further

[errant shore]

okay thanks man

[tropic berry]

is this rng

[warped skiff]

semblance simulating the entire universe from start to end but forgetting to add treefrogs

https://tenor.com/view/doyobug-mind-gif-21088087

[prime vale]

we have anteater but no ants

[fathom stirrup]

99,9% it is random

[kindred comet]

i have 418 darwinium, what should i spend it on?

[clear zenith]

last Beyond research mission if you don't have it

otherwise anything that's permanent, really 🤷‍♂️

[kindred comet]

what is it?

[clear zenith]

mission slot I mean

[fathom stirrup]

an extra slot for missions so you have 5 instead of 4

[fathom stirrup]

tell us a little bit more about yourself how far into the game are you 🙂

[kindred comet]

well, just got back to the game, rn im beyond10, mezo25, main52

[compact pasture]

hi all!!

[kindred comet]

that is locked behind beyond 12

[fathom stirrup]

I was just checking that 🙂

so bear in mind to have around 80 DW when you get there 😉

[kindred comet]

so, what else do i spend it on

[fathom stirrup]

in that case modules (#💬-cells-chat message)

[hollow pelican]

Jester tomorrow

[amber pelican]

I'm playing on Steam, and when in the Beyond simulation, my game keeps stuttering. It doesn't do it when in other modes

[sullen jolt]

Nope it’s April 1st

[hollow pelican]

It's a reference

[brisk island]

so ur saying i gotta wait alot

to get that upgrade

[rain rain]

is observable universe bugged for anyone else?

[autumn galleon]

Why can't I do astronomy missions. All telescopes are active

[fathom stirrup]

you are in discount mission tab (you finished all discount missions that were available to you) - switch to Dwarves or Dark Matter ones

[tawdry parrot]

forgetting plants 😭

[tawdry parrot]

howd u get darwinium out of this

[polar viper]

The others count too.
Do the fast dark matter ones

[rain rain]

welp. Observable universe just refuses to progress

[fluid delta]

how so?

[glass breach]

Oookayyyy what the hell.

[forest anchor]

👀

[fluid delta]

You didn't grab the 3 new constellations with Beyond 30, that's why

That's what that 2nd spot at the bottom is for. The achieve for having them

[forest anchor]

How are the 3 newest constellations related

Pretty certain the achievement is achieved by doing another thing, ||getting 3 other constellations||

[fluid delta]

... maybe. Hmm. At any rate, the named constellations for it are || Carina, Vela, Puppis ||

[acoustic jolt]

Hmmm, what's that one after π?

[forest anchor]

Currently unknown

[rain rain]

it doesn't progress offline at all

[clear zenith]

Like the fill? I'm pretty sure that also happened for me recently with a generator I didn't have automated (||Trappist|| iirc?)

Maybe that's by design but I don't pay enough attention to be certain

Wait no it totally is I remember triggering generators in Meso with a 5sec fill and changing sims and then it only fills when I get back. If it's not automated, I don't think it's supposed to progress offline

Real pain, isn't it?

[fluid delta]

Do you have the first card for it, that automates it?

[rain rain]

I'm pretty sure that even without automation it's supposed to fill completely anyway, and 'no auto' just means that next cycle won't start. Anyway, yes, I do have automation
upd: double-checked, yes, it's automated.

[clear zenith]

Oh weird

And one would think that how you describe it would be how it works but in my experience it's not :/

[fluid delta]

No, fairly sure it won't increment without automation, and therefore no offline benefit. But if you do have automation, then I'm not sure what to say.. either you are overlooking something or it's buggy for you. It worked fine for me though

[tawdry parrot]

'art degrees are useless' mfs when playing this event:

[fathom stirrup]

it's time for another Meso grind while waiting for to accumulate enough

[tawdry parrot]

ur saving so much mutageng j

[fathom stirrup]

Yes. Benefit of discord community - you can be prepared in advance for stuff

[dense flint]

can never have too much mutagen

I should probably work on my Meso, only like halway to prestige 3

[glass breach]

FAHHHHHH 💔

[fluid delta]

???

[modern yew]

Does anyone have a fully upgraded simulation, and I mean a Fully FULLY upgraded one, (all upgrades for etrophy and idea generators and purchases) just the primary simulation, not including Reality Engine

[fluid delta]

Yes, I do

If you mean Reality Engine

Mine is fully done

[modern yew]

Do you still have nodes like this?

[fluid delta]

If I do Primary as much as possible, then yes, you are going to have a bunch of those. That's for future content.

[modern yew]

Oh okay. I've had these for Years and I started losing hope. I thought I had to purchase more of the generators to unlock them 🥲

[clear zenith]

especially around Ind Rev I'd assume there's a bunch since that's up next in the list of coming updates

[fluid delta]

Years? Idk about that. Things got reworked last November with the revamp, so there certainly are such trails now

[modern yew]

I have this acc for like 3-4 years I forgot when I started, I always had nodes like that around industrial revolution

[fluid delta]

I honestly forget if those existed before the Revamp. I don't think so, but I'm not 100% sure. Regardless, it doesn't matter, there definitely are such now.

[modern yew]

About the industrial revolution 2, I had that glitch appear about it, and now it's doesn't show up, is the update close to getting released?

[fluid delta]

Yes. They are showing it off at Pax East in a day or two. I would expect it within a month.. maybe even a couple weeks.

We'll know it's imminent likely, when it appears in the #🧾-beta-patch-notes as being almost ready for production

[quartz lance]

If I lock

in on the mesozoic zone, how long will it take me to get from 1 to 50

after I rebirth for the first time

[fathom stirrup]

it is a really hard question to answer

[clear zenith]

I'd say you could probably get at least most of it done in a week if you tried, maybe even less

[quartz lance]

Nice

First rebirth will still take some time though

I am at 36.3 for some reason

same with my bits

[granite hemlock]

I just want to know, is vega in beyond?

[clear zenith]

that's a bug, I've seen the same happen to another player with Beyond episodes before. I believe that can cause issues when you trigger an extinction, but I don't remember the details

[fathom stirrup]

what version are you playing? - Latest one seems to be 44_86

[quartz lance]

I have had this for months

through updates

[clear zenith]

but I'm not sure that this should trigger any issues, other than obviously you can't buy anything with a quarter of a logit

[quartz lance]

I had it with my darwinium also

[amber canyon]

We do have a frog in a tree though

[amber canyon]

Did you do alpha? And move your alpha save to beta or production. That's the normal reason for stuff like this.

[clear zenith]

My first thought is that it's either a bug, a glitch, or it got messed up by hacking (not that I mean to accuse you of it, I'm just throwing out anything I can think of)

[quartz lance]

Yes, that's also probably the reason

[warped skiff]

i was more referencing the earlier simulations

[quartz lance]

Is that a fixable issue or do I accept my faith

[clear zenith]

well you see, that's not a tree frog, even if it is on a tree

[clear zenith]

I may not be correct on this but I believe the last person who had the issue had to get in contact with support to fix it. If you've created an in-game account, they can go in and correct these errors on your save file

[quartz lance]

Interesting

[amber canyon]

Not fixable afaik. The Devs said several times not to do it, and that they wouldn't provide support if you did it and had issues.

[quartz lance]

Thats a shame

Own fault I guess

[clear zenith]

do it as in move an alpha save around, I assume?

[amber canyon]

Move a save from the alpha version of Reality Reboot to the beta version.

There were fundamental incompatibilities.

[quartz lance]

What if I try to go back in Alpha and make it a whole number

[clear zenith]

I mean, fafo. Maybe it'll work, maybe not 🤷‍♂️

any consequences are your own doing

[amber canyon]

No idea 🤷.

[quartz lance]

The damage is done

why not

[clear zenith]

that's what I figured

[quartz lance]

https://tenor.com/view/interstellar-gif-24103478

now I have to figure out how to make it a whole number

[clear zenith]

Honestly I think worst case scenario, just hope it resets to 0 when you prestige, assuming the game lets you get that far? idk

[amber canyon]

Just cracked open the update. Lots.of GooglePlay achieves popped (not all). I'm heading Beyond-wards!

[clear zenith]

nice

hello??? (art garden spoilers, dk if this showed up late-exploration or if I just noticed)

[quartz lance]

nothing worked

[clear zenith]

darn

[quartz lance]

😔

[clear zenith]

but if it keeps letting you progress, maybe it'll reset back to 0 when you prestige?

[quartz lance]

who knows

[clear zenith]

one way to find out

[quartz lance]

I dont have the time to play this game that much though

[clear zenith]

no rush, it's not even a finished game

[amber canyon]

Hope it never gets finished 🙂

[brisk island]

any ideas how to make this faster

[rocky owl]

already 27 very nice

[clear zenith]

I agree. In my experience, idle/incremental games "ending" usually means the devs just stopped adding more content. It's hard to really reach an ending

[brisk island]

soooo is there any way

or do i just wait it

[amber canyon]

From what people have said, it's likely you need to boost your Sun generator.

[brisk island]

i kinda tried

i went all in

just doubled my gain

there was an upgrade i didnt notice

[clear zenith]

I don't believe it's a generator, but it is mentioned in the descrption for ||the constellation Lyra, which it's a part of||

[amber canyon]

Farm red dwarfs and DW for blue Stars 🤷.

[brisk island]

red dwarfs will prob help me out more

[amber canyon]

Maybe.

[brisk island]

alright thank u

[granite hemlock]

Oh ok, I was hoping it had a little more mention, but I guess I'm a little biased due to it being my favorite star.

[brisk island]

yae cuz like the sun is generating 90%+ of my income