maps-discussion

[civic phoenix]

Why? I am never going up from that beach in my e3 to go hulldown in the middle. It takes forever. My suggestions is to remove the lower beach spawn and only have heavy spawn.

[past oxide]

There is no spawn in the beach area

[scenic stratus]

They do need to have fixed spawns tho. It sucks to spawn beach side in a maus.

[faint patio]

Honestly i believe all event maps should A; be usable in training rooms and B; have a small chance to appear in reg cue, they are all so unique and could be really fun without gravity

[lament widget]

wasteland was added to random battles for a brief period and it was aweful

[fleet orchid]

campstilla

[faint patio]

I love it as a map idk why it was hated on

[civic phoenix]

I know, but i called it the lower beach spawn, cause it is closer to the beach then heavy spawn

[vivid goblet]

Will the "mines" map be updated?

[midnight fractal]

i can't find this video would you source it for me ?

[civic phoenix]

https://youtu.be/bQYEqe4Y6b8

[midnight fractal]

dashing ty

[civic phoenix]

U welcome

[spring cosmos]

wait what? all the maps have same size?

[scenic stratus]

Roughly yes. But maps have different playable area. That and the way lanes are designed by wg make maps like mines feel like a matchbox house in new York and maps like Normandy and other recent maps feel much bigger

[lament widget]

There are different maps which have physically different sized borders though

[spring cosmos]

fr normandy rlly feels larg

[ruby dove]

I've been thinking about the camouflages and three is definitely not enough. Some maps just don't fit into those categories.

There really needs to be more categories. And I'm sure Blitz wants to sell more skins, and I'm sure other players besides myself would like to have a larger selection of skins they can use for different maps. It would be great for realism!

Maybe some of them could be
Forest/Jungle 🌲🌳🌿🌴 (mostly shades of green and browns, foliage, grass, wood, flowers, rocks)
Wetlands/Swamps 🌿🏞️🐊 (Greens, browns, foliage, moss, sludge, slime, mud)
Fall Foliage🍁🍂 (reds, browns, oranges, yellows)
Dirt/Mud 💩 (Shades of brown and beige)
Mountainous/Rock 🏔️🪨 (mostly shades of gray)
Urban/Towns/Residential/Industrial 🏙️🌇🏢🏘️🏭 (shades of gray, white, beige, blue, red, & brown)
Snow/Sludge ❄️☃️(shades of white and gray)
Ice/Water 🧊🌊 (Shades of blue and white)
Deserts/Dunes/Plains/Basins/Beaches 🏜️🏖️ (Shades of beige, yellow, light browns)
Scrubs/Sparse Vegetation🌵🪴🌱 (Shades of beige, light browns, some faded shades of green)

[quartz zephyr]

the camouflage fitting in the map doesn’t matter, it’s the concealment bonus

[quartz zephyr]

If they add more categories F2P players or players who don’t have any camo let’s call them certificates, will have to spend more credits on the camos if more categories are added

[stone tendon]

They don't, you can go on map inspector and see the playable size for each. Also maps with larger elevations and depressions feel bigger than flat ones for obvious reasons

[ruby dove]

I've barely spent any money on this game and that's never been a problem for me.

There's plenty of events where you can get skins, plus giveaways, rewards, and ways to buy them without spending actual money.

Selling skins and avatars you don't want to buy new skins is one way to do it.

[ruby coyote]

While more catégories would be impractical, they could probably make sub-catagories.

[ruby dove]

A really good example is fort despair. The summer camouflages that work on Forest maps don't work on that map. That map has a lot of oranges, yellows, and greys in it. It just doesn't work. It doesn't look good.

[prime pewter]

The categories don’t matter as most people I assume just run 1 camo, legendary or reactive maybe battle pass camo in each slot. It’s only the base camos that are exclusive to each slot so unless they want to rework what map falls into each category. Seems a lot of work for no profit

[ruby dove]

They at least need to have maybe two more, for fall colors, mud, clay, etc. Lots of oranges, reds, browns, maybe a little bit of gold. I wonder what you would call that. And one more for more urban, residential, and industrial areas. Colors mimicking cement, brick, wood, metal.

[ruby dove]

You know that could actually work.

But fort despair is definitely not a summer map. If they're going to break it up into seasons, they left out fall 🍂🍁 and spring 🌱🌺🌷

And they didn't even do that. Summer, winter, desert? 🤦‍♂️

That's two seasons and one environment.

I really don't think it makes any sense to categorize camouflages under seasons. Seasons can look like many different things depending on the environment you're in.

I mean compare Bora Bora to Alaska in the winter. Very big difference.

I think they need to throw out seasons, and start labeling the camouflage skins under categories of specific environments, not seasons. Then these maps are going to start to make a lot more sense in the way that they go with camouflage.

And like you said there's many subcategories under main categories of environments.

[supple pelican]

can we have a map that is just water

concept art

[modern maple]

Seems like a promising concept

But what is that white over the water? I thought it‘s just water?

[ruby coyote]

WG needs to get some spongebob licensing and put it under the water.

[stone tendon]

seems pretty balanced

[wide shale]

I like it

But the U-Panzer will definitely be overpowered in this map

[uncut pike]

And we could use our new Pirate ARL V39’s

[timid palm]

blitz maps suck for the most part but at least we dont have any flat bushy maps like pc

[scenic stratus]

Prokharovka is one of the maps of all time

[stone tendon]

those maps are pretty nice considering you can actually use bush mechanics on them. Blitz maps are almost all made ignoring that feature.

[timid palm]

if ur the guy that thinks wotb is a watered down, poor mans version of wotpc, ive once be that guy. trust me, go back, its like hell over there. most maps have three lanes like league, one city, one hilly for light tanks and one full of brushes. if u go to the bushy ones, u might reconsider ever gambling again as players on both sides slowly pushes until someones spotted first and ate a buffet of shells in less than the time for that light bulb to show up

[ruby dove]

🧽🍍 😂😂

@ruby coyote I made a night map a long long long long long time ago called Sandcastle for another video game. It was a giant sandcastle with ramps and towers for hover tanks, in the middle of a shallow tropical ocean with small islands around it. It was actually a lot of fun! I can totally see something similar to that in this game being really popular. Everyone who played it loved it. It had a multi-floor tower of sand in the center of the Castle, that could be a single capture point, or one of many. I guess the others could be on islands sheltered by rocks and sand dunes... and maybe a shipwreck?

[ruby dove]

I've been thinking about this.

I would make island #1 mostly sand offering some sand dunes for hulling down, some palm trees, a few rocks for cover, and a tavern made out of a wooden shack and a dock.

Island #2 would be large rocks with a nice sized hill with several perches for destroyers with some scattered bushes, lots of vegetation.

Island #3 (shipwreck) would be rocky with some sand and sparse vegetation, with lot of cover created by several trails leading to the capture point, protected by hills made from sand, rock, and parts broken off by the ship. The capture point would be behind the largest part of the ship hull.

The castle in the center would have ramps, collapsed bombed out walls, and stairs tanks could drive up to get to the chemin de rondes (walkway along the tops of the walls) which would be around the entire perimeter of the castle, with some areas of the battlements destroyed where destroyers could defend the castle from.

I really miss making maps. I don't even have a computer anymore. Not to mention the time...

❔🤔 Honestly, do you guys think that map would be popular?

[midnight fractal]

Itd be either loved o hated, a really polarizing map

[ruby dove]

Funny, that's what I typically aim for. 😂

[ruby coyote]

Why not try and draw it?
(FYI WG is hiring if your interested)

[elfin moth]

In this day and age, any map wuld be having polarised opinions xd

[ruby dove]

Meh, I was more focused on map design. I never learned how to make the props and and stuff. To get a job like that you have to learn how to literally make everything for a map and do it all yourself. It's a thankless job, it's ridiculously hard difficult demanding work, with little recognition or pay.

[devout notch]

we actually we need a bigger map bru

[midnight fractal]

Cringe take

[stone tendon]

I made this a while ago #maps-discussion message

[ruby coyote]

What If WG did à map contest say for a game-mode map?

[acoustic perch]

Ngl that map already exists, but in WoWS

Theres a map called "Ocean" and its just that, an ocean, nothing else.

[supple pelican]

ok but what if that in wot

[ancient flax]

"plains"

[wide shale]

Yes yes yes
Massive flat plains with very few hills for realistic

[elfin moth]

Facts tho

[knotty island]

okay, this will make the game just boring. Removing a sixth of the maps interchangibly between months

[knotty mirage]

Too bad they aren't temporarily removing Hellas. I would have appreciated a break from that one. But we all have our most hated map though don't we.

[red lake]

That explanation is absolute garbage

“New players overwhelmed by amount of maps”
????
Not kidding Ik wg literally just doesn’t test a few things sometimes but that’s incredibly stupid it’s one thing that hooks you into a game if there’s a wide variety of maps how in anyway does it overwhelm players that’s like turning off all tutorials or red “click me” icons because it overwhelms the player and prevents them from exploring or literally looking around in the garage

I’d buy game size is getting big I’ve gotten the most performance issues this year

[kindred scaffold]

Currently in the game is 30 maps (+3 are for game modes [so total 32] - Wastelands & Everfrost & Sea of Tranquility)
5 maps will be removed so that's 24 and lagoon will be added so 25 [28, if we include game modes maps] maps.... am I right?

[knotty island]

In the training room map screen there's 29 maps, lagoon will make it 30. And the mode maps won't be removed because they are mode maps. So they are removing exactly a sixth of the maps every 3 months. What is your point exactly?

[kindred scaffold]

I forgot moon map then
so 29 maps

[knotty island]

They are not doing anything about the mode maps, which are only around when there's modes around... which is super rarely, so they are just dragging the 5 maps out of the normal regular queue.

The point is that they are going to remove 1/6 of the maps and rotate it every 3 months. Which is a utterly stupido move from WG

[wide shale]

why is it stupid

[knotty island]

lol, why isn't it stupid?

They are using the excuse that new players have a too grand map selection and don't learn the maps as good as they could be. With this change players will just have to learn 25 maps in regular queue battles, instead of 30. Which still is a heck of a lot, and isn't much easier for a player to learn than 30. And since they are rotating maps, the new player will suddenly find 5 maps that they've never even seen before and have no idea of how to play. Worsening the disadvantage of new players greatly, and working countereffectively to "helping new players learn the maps".

hence a stupid move. With a very stupid explanation that makes absolutely no sense whatsoever

[wide shale]

rotating maps isn't stupid in any sense
and if WG's argument doesn't make sense then we shall leave it out of the equation

[knotty island]

They are removing a sixth of the maps, for 3 month intervals. Don't you enjoy playing on different maps?

[dawn flint]

At the time they removed Mirage and Lost Temple, they said they’d bring those back later… meanwhile…

[kindred scaffold]

02_desert_train_dt - Desert Sands
03_erlenberg_er - Middleburg
04_medvedkovo_md - Dead Rail
05_amigosville_am - Falls Creek
06_rudniki_rd - Mines
07_fort_ft - Fort Despair
08_idle_id - Yukon
09_savanna_sv - Oasis Palms
11_plant_pn [Will be removed] - Ghost Factory - And that map is not even that old!
12_malinovka_ma - Winter Malinovka
13_pliego_pl - Castilla
14_port_pt [Will be removed] - Port Bay
15_ordeal_ord [Removed => Old tutorial map] - Proving Grounds
15_lagoon_ln [NEW] - Lagoon
16_holland_hl - Molendijk
17_karelia_ka - Rockfield
18_canal_cn - Canal
19_himmelsdorf_hm - Himmelsdorf
21_mountain_mnt - Black Goldville
22_italy_it [Will be removed] - Vineyards
23_karieri_kr [Will be removed] - Copperfield
24_milibase_mlb - Yamato Harbor
25_canyon_ca - Canyon
26_holmeisk_hk [Available only in Mad Games] - Wasteland
28_rock_rc - Mayan Ruins
29_skit_sk - Naval Frontier
30_grossberg_sh [Will be removed] - Dynasty's Pearl
31_lumber_lm - Alpenstadt
32_faust_fa_night - Faust
33_neptune_nt - Normandy
34_forgecity_fc - New Bay
35_rift_rt - Hellas
40_moon_mn [Available only in Gravity Force] - Sea of Tranquility
41_iceworld_ic [Available only in Gravity Force] - Everfrost

[wide shale]

half the maps they are removing are the ones I hate the most, so I'm fine with this change

[knotty island]

they are gonna get back in 3 months again, then perhaps your favorite 5 maps are going to be removed

[kindred scaffold]

But they are removing 4 maps, that are played on Tier 10, which kinda sucks

[knotty island]

Yeah. it sucks. There's no other way to say it, this change is utterly terrible.

It doens't kinda suck, it is a huge pile of suckiness

[wide shale]

get used to the change then, WG clearly won't revert this

[kindred scaffold]

Like this was one idea of reworked Port Bay in 2017 not sure with the year tho

[knotty island]

I don't get how you aren't up in fire about this, they are removing a sixth of the maps every 3 months, how are you even okay about this? And for what? It's not to help people learn the maps, that is a nonsense explanation. They are doing this for no reason. Wg wont revert this, as they've nver done. You shouldnt think this behaviour is fine

[knotty island]

I'm very glad that wasn't let into the game, that map is just designed for house peeking, mediums and lights weren't even thought about

[wide shale]

I don't get why are you so fired up about this
it's only 6 maps, and they will be rotating them, they aren't removing 6 maps every single update until we only have 2
I also barely care for these changes as it barely effects me or any other good player in the game

[kindred scaffold]

@potent shore clean it up

@glad crystal please?

[potent shore]

he's already banned, sometimes it takes a while for the messages to be auto-deleted by the bot though

[knotty island]

It does affect the variation of the game, the things that will happen in battles will be much less varied. I've played well over 50k games in wotb, and it gets very unvaried as it is, I really don't need less variation. And I know they just are rotating them, that's what I've been saying the entire time, but they are removing a sixth of the different scenarios that can happen in your sessions of playing for 3 month intervals

[wide shale]

it sounds like to me that you have just played so many battles for so long you're already too used to the game

[knotty island]

yeah, and now you're gonna have to play the same amount of battles on less maps and get even more used to the game

[wide shale]

I would suggest not playing as much then

[kindred scaffold]

Sorry, but someone has to say "unpopular" opinion about very bad choice that WG will try to do.

[knotty island]

And If I'd assume your ingame name from the -nox- clan I'd assume you're noobie_playYT. You have 200 more games a month than me, it's really not a great argument

[kindred scaffold]

His ign is Clone_5555 👀

[wide shale]

I don't understand, are you calling my opinion "unpopular?"

@knotty island no I'm Clone_5555, and I don't really care for comparing stats, I'm not trying to prove any point here

[knotty island]

no, gonnahetzme said you had an unpopular opinion. But yeah, you totally have an unpopular opinion

[wide shale]

I don't care if my opinion is popular or not, I'm just stating how I feel for these changes

[kindred scaffold]

Can I have question? Have you ever played any kind of tournaments?
Because I am kinda certain, these maps will be missing from map pool

And I kinda like them to be honest, because I have really good memories on them

[wide shale]

I don't participate in tournaments, and yes I have not taken that into account for what I have said earlier

[kindred scaffold]

@knotty island I am certain you know the current map pool well, because of your clan tag, are these map played?

[knotty island]

It's mostly wineyards that is played in tournaments that people enjoy, I for one love that map. But the other maps are kinda meh for tournaments or don't exist in them at all, but they are nice maps non the less, except for ghost factory, which is the most uneven spawn map in the game

[kindred scaffold]

Just, I feel "that rotating maps" mechanism will be chaotic and mostly weird. I disagree with that change.
Feature that NOBODY asked for

[knotty island]

But after these 3 months they are gonna remove 3 other maps, maybe they are maps that everyone likes? And all for a non explanation from wg, they could have said something like:

"We need to remove some maps to releviate the stress on the game engine, and we'll try to move over to a different game engine to not have to do this in the future"

Which is the real reason they are doing this, but they are not moving engine. This will just continue to happen with future updates adding more content, the game has outgrown it's engine from 2014 by far, and it's therefore we're having the really long waittimes before battles and load in a minute after the game has started, and the ping issues are so terrible some days. And now they are just continuing to cope, and not change engine anytime soon.
And yet they are adding new mechanics every line to add further strain onto the game, making it more unplayable. They should have changed game engine a long time ago, but they haven't. And are made to have to make such decisions as this, just for their utter stupidity in developing the game. That's the true story about it

and we have to suffer because of it's consequences, and their attempts to solve the problem

[kindred scaffold]

"stress on the game engine" doesn't make sense. Engine can handle a lot more than most of people think, but limit is in our hands (phones, tablets).
There is not any relevant reason to "rotate" these maps. If they rather said "we will remove 3 maps for 3 months, but we will remake them in to PBR", that would be a lot different.

Engine used to be opensource till 2018 and development still continues to this day by Wargaming & Lesta studios (closed source). So saying "outdated" engine is kinda not the right reason.

[knotty island]

This engine is not made to handle a game of this size, wot has outgrown it's engine, it needs to so many files to function. Other games this size have no problem running, and the game is so poorly optimized that pc's that are way stronger than the game ever should have a problem with are having performance issues. It's true that calling it outdated is kinda a misuse of words, but in a way it is. It's made for games much smaller than it's size, which blitz was back in the day. And players need to take so much resources of the files into every battle, that it puts a strain on the engine

[kindred scaffold]

What do you mean by "handle a game of this size" tell me specific issues that you are having.

[knotty island]

Long loading times, on both pc and phone, really slow response when clicking tabs such as missions, techtree, profiles or such. Performance issues on pc, and I by no means have a bad pc, totally on the contrary, long frametimes in battles, especially on hdr maps. And generally just slow in all things game related

and I don't have bad issues, I'm speaking on behalf of every player I know. I'm quite lucky in the small amount of annoyances in comparison

[kindred scaffold]

Long loading times, have you ever played WoT? 😂
Yeah second part I agree (UI is not really optimised). Regarding frametimes, that is problem on PC right?

[knotty island]

Yeah, I've played Wot, I load in in about 10 seconds from the wargaming hud thing. Which i really don't do in blitz

[kindred scaffold]

Like to garage? 😄 Shush, I don't even with my PC and I think I don't have bad PC

[knotty island]

yes, to garage.

[kindred scaffold]

Steam version is still 32bit, but we should get soon 64bit I hope so. That should fix performance on maps with PBR, hopefully.

[knotty island]

I don't have that much confidence in the game using more ram to solve the issues

[kindred scaffold]

That's not about ram, but it's about native support on current hardware.
Most of the devices, that we are using (on PC), are 64bit (32bit platform for gaming died long time ago, thanks Steam Hardware Charts). WoTB is 32-bit application that is being currently "emulated" to run on 64bit system, that can hurt performance during shader calculations, etc.

[knotty island]

wotb in general has a issue of using pc hardware, it barely get's over 2% cpu usage for me

[kindred scaffold]

That's the problem, Can't use full resources of HW

[ruby dove]

Interesting idea for a map, I like the overall concept. It needs some work, but you've done a really good job so far.

[elfin moth]

My guy, big world dava engine was specifically made to handle wotb and was made in such a way that it can handle future detailed textures as well
On top of that, game engines can be progressively upgraded to meet up with the current demands of the game

But this engine is capable and will be able to meet the demand for future content as well

[swift crow]

Finally, those maps are going to be rework. Hope to see their new appearence. Chinese town and Port Bay are the ones to be worked for players. They are so unbearable

WG just removing those maps to improve them doesn't sound so shocking and frustrating.

[wary wraith]

They aren’t. They’re just gonna add them back in the next season, unchanged, and remove 5 more maps.

[river canopy]

It shouldn't even be a rotation. They should just remove those maps and never bring them back

[wary wraith]

The only ones I would be happy to see fully gone are Port Bay and Copperfield. Dynasty’s Pearl is actually a decent map, Ghost Factory is fairly well-liked and wouldn’t be too hard to rework, and Vineyards could also be easy to rework.

[civic phoenix]

I am the only one who dislikes Black goldville? The caves is bad, heavy side is bad. And the middle is very hard to play correctly. Any opinions?

[wide shale]

I dislike that map too, it’s hard to rotate out of med side due to the sightlines TDS can get sitting close to the back

[ruby coyote]

Honestly I'm looking forward to the new map, it looks like it will be almost entirely usable.

[stone tendon]

It is, there is cross fire through the whole map. You heard me right, they actually added crossfire into a map

and its huge enough not to get spotted while trying pull a crossfire. finally.

[karmic wyvern]

Bring back FATA MORGANA

[rigid ivy]

I disagree I love copper field

[still pine]

One of the worst map in wotblitz:
Explanation why: if one heavy tank of your team goes to the port city the game for your team is almost a guaranteed lose and also when the meds/lights of your team don't cross the river as fast as possible at the beginning of the match it's almost a guaranteed lose for your team🚮. The only playable place/flank/spot/side of the map is the field but only for tanks that have good gun degrees down (kranvagn,concept 1b,...)

[radiant nexus]

I’ll be more than happy to see Port Bay disappear. I just hope & pray it’s gone permanently.

[drowsy ibex]

i miss the map that had a beach and a hill on the other side.

[ancient flax]

mirage?

[drowsy ibex]

@ancient flax Yes!!!

[eager wharf]

Now that I think about it, I agree

[slender siren]

When are they going to rework the map structures? And when will they make available more climbing spots? They blocked them all off and you can’t go up anything anymore.

[scenic stratus]

Can't say about structure but wg is very much against climbing so I doubt they will reintroduce old climbs and climbs on new maps may get blocked eventually

[steep steppe]

Agreed. Map is very bad and has always been. Also the top right corner is very lame. Perfect for fast hull down tanks

[thorny stratus]

I feel like the teams I get do better in the city (or maybe its just me, IKD). But I do agree that the map is Kinda bad.

[mild hare]

of the maps that are going away, most I didn't really like. Copperfield is low-tier only and kinda whatever, Dynasty's Pearl is only good if you're well armored, Port Bay looked great but only playable in hills, but I did like Ghost Factory, and vinyards was good. although you'd get shredded in city if you weren't a sidescrapper

[wicked turtle]

What are some good sniping places for the challenger? All maps

[remote halo]

anywhere in general where td snipe from
but it will be better to 2nd line than to snipe in it to unleash its potential

but thats prob just my playstyle. snipe or support is entirely your choice

[fringe dust]

castillia worst map, camping on one hill or second hill change my mind

[fresh quest]

When is Oasis Palms and Lost Temple coming back?

[meager inlet]

I miss Oasis

[thorny stratus]

I think you mean mirage and lost temple. Oasis palms was uses in the NA tournament yesterday.

[fresh quest]

yes you are right. my bad

i hope WG makes Copperfield and Mines a bit bigger for high tier tanks

[kindred scaffold]

Only real OG's remember

[lament widget]

[kind violet]

Why removing maps like Ghost Factory? What about completly redoing New Bay or Mines, they're the most hated ones

I just hope they wont completly dissapear like Mirage or Lost Temple (removed 2 years ago for a "rework,, 🥲)

[lament widget]

I still believe that Lagoon is mirage revamped

[modern maple]

The only map where capping was a great strategy

[stone hearth]

I miss lost temple. Large, beautiful, have position for TD camping, can play with high depression or no depression

Also balance base position from both teams

[vale hinge]

not gonna happen, if there's a climbing spot on a new map

that does not require a help of other player (not talking about speed boosting) is almost impossible to happen nowadays

if you're sneaky enough you can find a way up no matter how much invisible walls you get through.

after all wg didn't stop me from entering the water zone on naval frontier
i always found a different way in no matter how much walls they put

[dark obsidian]

Whose idea was map rotation? Nobody asked for it, game is going to be so stale with fewer maps to play. I hope enough people give negative feedback and they eventually reconsider

[modern maple]

Nah, I don‘t think the map rotation affects the gameplay a lot

The number of maps only increased with time and it was probably a strain on the MM and making it more difficult for new players to orient

[dreamy wave]

Naah it's still a bad idea

[rigid ivy]

Just got platinum just in nick of time will get camp for the tanks now been trying for a while and first time actually getting platinum!!!!

[heavy fractal]

I thought NA had a bigger player base than ASIA

[stone brook]

I for one, am very happy about it. The sole reason for this is the fact that dynasty pearl is going to be gone. Its worst map ever made, I hope it never comes back.

[dark obsidian]

@stone brook it will come back though, because they are doing a season-to-season rotation. So the season after the first one, Dynasty Pearl and the rest going away soon will come back, and 5 OTHER maps will be temporarily removed. This means you'll actually be playing more Dynasty Pearl than normal the season it comes back, since it will be in and 5 non Dynasty Pearl maps will be out.

[pallid oar]

based

[tacit pagoda]

New map looks so bad legit

[stone tendon]

you are an egg

[lament widget]

canal is literally one of the best maps in the game

[stone tendon]

I love canal, literally pocket WoT

[frail latch]

Toaster Easter egg in lagoon Map

[raw glade]

tried the lagoon map in a solo training room.... it looks like it has a lot of reasonable concealment for TDs...

[crystal drum]

I think that Easter egg above probably explains a lot

[gray sundial]

Mirrage houses?

[stone tendon]

good eye

[tawdry gorge]

yep good eye for detail

[ruby dove]

I was thinking about a type of map I haven't played in a long time, and especially never in this game.

I think it's called attack and defend. Basically there's an offensive team and a defensive team, and the map has three stages separated by gates. You respond if you die.

The offensive team starts at the beginning of the map and the defensive team has to protect the gate from being destroyed, which would give access to the second stage of the map if the offensive team is successfully destroys it.

[honest aurora]

Can WG add more maps?Ill really like to see Ensk,Berlin or Province coming to wot blitz

[ruby dove]

If the offensive team can work their way through both gates, and destroy the defender's base at the end of stage 3, then the offensive team wins. However, if the timer runs out and the defenders successfully stop the offensive team from destroying the base, then the defenders win.

All you would have to do is destroy the gate by dumping enough shells into it until it breaks. And of course the same thing for the enemy base

Or maybe you would only have to capture the base?

[honest aurora]

Its obvious,we need more game modes

[ruby dove]

I think a map like that would be hella fun! There's so much they can do with this game that they just aren't doing. They seem to be recycling the same old ideas and just putting a new spin on them each time. I want something different.

[honest aurora]

You know the time WG did Experimental modes ?

[ruby dove]

And whatever happened to good old fashioned CTF? Where you carry a flag from your side of the map to the enemy side of the map to the enemy capture point?

[ruby dove]

No. I don't know anything about that. What kind of game modes did they try?

[slate brook]

i found an easter egg!!!

[ruby dove]

Hmmm..... I would make egg and ham salad... Mmmmm

It's basically egg salad and ham mixed together. You know like tuna salad but with egg and ham instead of tuna

[slate brook]

yea

[honest aurora]

They did weird game modes completely not connected with the tank warfare,and they were testing new features,like there was a mode were everything is blocky and you can Only play with Karl(SPG),and that was like mode wee they experimented with dynamic structures

[ruby dove]

Stupid. They went too radical. They weren't practical enough, that's why it probably didn't work out.

[honest aurora]

That was only testing but it was hella fun

[ruby dove]

I've also seen another game mode where one team has to push a cart loaded with explosives to the enemy base to blow up the enemy base, and the other team has to try and stop them

I also remember seeing another mode where the map is broken up into regions controlled by capture points. It works a little bit like supremacy but with twice as many capture points, but with the added twist that if one team manages to capture all points the game immediately ends giving them an automatic victory.

Unlike supremacy, the regions of the map glow green or red on the map depending on who's controlling them. The entire region, not just that one spot.

[hardy pebble]

make castilla td hills( both north and south spawn) have a slope at an high angle so that tanks take damage if reversing at high speed

[acoustic stag]

wouldn't be consistent and probably not very effective because of the low height

• you only climb on north and you should never go back all the way

[narrow vector]

I'm ngl, I still stand by what I said almost a year ago. That this new map is inspired by mirage. And If I had to guess, probably started out as a mirage revamp before changing scenery and becoming its own map. The layout is pretty similar except for the new middle.

Old message from then

[stone tendon]

That would be really funny, to see a 183 just die instantly after being scared from 1 shot

[knotty quartz]

banaaninraiskaaja69.cum#3928 was banned.

[kind violet]

Why are the LODs popping in like 10 meters in front of me 😂
I have the game at max settings

[quaint bay]

My too 🤣

[acoustic perch]

Because Blitz is designed for mobile devices

[kind violet]

Fair enough, but they also release the game on PC - it should have some quality features upped a bit

[scenic stratus]

If they are going to release it on a platform, you cannot say it is not a priority for them anymore. This isn't emulation. They chose to release the game on PC.

[modern maple]

It literally is not a priority though

I can also build a model train and even though I am doing it, it most certainly is not a priority

[scenic stratus]

Well that's true. But it shouldn't happen that low priority means that they never get around to it. But I suppose in this case they already have their hands full with optimizing mobile devices

Besides wg is not a small indie studio. They can afford to focus on more than one platform. But there is no point in debating over this. You're right, mobile platforms take priority

[quaint bay]

....

[stone tendon]

your hitmark textures are missing

[kindred scaffold]

For real that platoon hangar is for 3 people ._.

[modern maple]

I believe the third slot is for advertising

[wide shale]

ah yes you go toon with your buddy and a tiny Panzer II J appears there for sale

[subtle raft]

LOL now imagine amx 40 giga Chad being there (note to weegee I'm not a tester I just happen to be a tech tree mod user)

[wide shale]

ah yes, French superheavy

[subtle raft]

XD

[ruby coyote]

Extremely necessary

[subtle raft]

I wonder if this will be free?

[wide shale]

are those "skirts" supposed to be skirts or main armor, because armor inspector said it's main armor

[subtle raft]

And I also wonder how much we will be scammed on this if it's 100 dollars or something like that imma cry

[zinc trout]

Those are supposed to be spaced 😂

[ruby coyote]

They are probably integral skirts, so not main-armour.

[wide shale]

rip, they looked weird as main armor so I was wondering

[zinc trout]

Having them as main armor would completely ruin any armor it has

[wide shale]

iirc it had like 84mm of armor so it's not overmatchable, as if anything low tier would overmatch anything really

[ruby coyote]

Lol

[subtle raft]

I wonder when this will come back imo this should be brought back every memorial Day

[ancient flax]

thats a british tank... and memorial day is an american holiday 🤔

[left parrot]

Maybe for like some anniversaries related to WW1, maybe Battle of the Somme or end of WW1, would be cool to see a remastered Mk.1 mode

[kindred scaffold]

Nice to see my mod

[clever heath]

lagoon

[kindred scaffold]

Still a lot to do 😦
PBR maybe soon

[red dirge]

No you

[clever heath]

lol i was testing slowmode speed in each channel

[thorny stratus]

I'm 90% certain that its an event tank for the birthday event

[velvet crow]

nice minecraft mod for wot blitz garage
mind if I use this

[kindred scaffold]

Yeah, you can use that video if needed.
But for now I'll try to make that hangar better, which will take a lot of time... This is just basic texture and If I want to make it PBR, then I have to make MISC, NM, BC, RM and lightmap... + Optional stuff like animations

[stone tendon]

Map concept 530x530

[ruby coyote]

What are you running it on???

[elfin moth]

Noicee

[somber falcon]

How much long has this tank existed in game in never knew about it

[wary wraith]

It was leaked

It hasn’t been added into the main game yet.

[fierce gate]

play the game normally by driving a tank
you'll notice the LOD Popping really isnt as noticable
the LOD in the game was optimized for gameplay, not freecam
there are options to enable extended LOD for PC, but it then messes with gameplay

[acoustic stag]

it's a lil empty, you might want to scatter rocks all around it and make it wayyyyyyy less flat

[fickle crystal]

that's inspired by war thunder isn't it?

[stone tendon]

it’s supposed to be open and flat

[fathom smelt]

Did you make the 3d assets yourself? (Just curious)

[acoustic stag]

td hell

[stone tendon]

Nope imported them from unity store

[stone tendon]

If you have a light or fast medium then hunting them down will be fun. They have no escape.

[acoustic stag]

a lt or mt won't be able to push, it'll just get deleted once it gets spotted

[red lake]

Wouldn’t this basically be Stalingrad from pc

[stone tendon]

I was implying that you spot them then your team shoots

[indigo crown]

Ht = Win

[stone tendon]

If they have support then yea a Maus would do really well. It’d be like a battle ram.

[indigo crown]

Which is the problem. Stat for Stat, HT are better than the other classes (few exceptions ofc). We don't need a/another map designed specifically to promote HT use.

[stone tendon]

If they are caught out in any moment they can be melted, the map is very open.

[indigo crown]

Which is why, the tanks with more HP and Armour (HT) thrive. I can see TD keeping up, camping at the back to farm damage, but not a chance for LT, MT

[stone tendon]

You’re not very creative

[finite vine]

If its not just another tank reskined then how do you have it in your garage?

[indigo crown]

I prefer not to heighten the minimum skill bar on MT and LT (while at the same time boosting HT viability in every possible situation).

[past oxide]

At least it’ll be a change from the usual hull down

[indigo crown]

I think it would only be made worse, as the few places of cover would force everyone to use the bumps and holes in the ground as hulldown positions.

What I mean is, we are trading HT domination for more HT domination.

[past oxide]

We need a map that’s just a huge hill so the heavies take half the game to get to the battlefield

[subtle raft]

It's new

[wide shale]

that's the mark I Heavy tank from an event ages ago, he is just viewing the tank through a modded client

[finite vine]

Okay thanks! I know it was an event tank because I played it too but there are a few players that still have it for some reason. Like Meadsy

[drifting pawn]

we need city map in gravity

[past oxide]

Nobody has it, after the event ended it was removed from everybody’s accounts

[elfin moth]

Hello, this is the lagoon full map pics....

Red is the map border; Yellow is what u can see on the land area and violet is all that you can see from you tank!

One of the largest maps in terms of overall area of the combination of playable and aesthetic terrains

[ruby coyote]

How...

[elfin moth]

Ngl, it's a bug of all things mate😂

[lament widget]

It would be cool if they showed a little of Mayan ruins like they do with castilla and mines

[elfin moth]

Ye ikr

[devout flower]

The lagoon map is worse map in a while.

[remote halo]

Its a new map, people are still learning to play in it

[tawny ice]

They should create a mode where the community can create their own maps and playing them separately would be much more fun than playing the same old maps.

[snow ruin]

I’d say it’s definitely meant for mediums, hull down spots everywhere and lots of places to run if you’re out numbered

[devout flower]

Yeah basically go hull down or go to garage. No place for tanks without armour or gun depression to influence the battle other than wait and see if your team is good.

Also the map is big and there's no way to support even at medium range. If team is split and other team pushes it's a straight loss.

It may be a good comp map but for regular battles with the kind of average iq players have these days, this map is just bad design IMO.

[quaint juniper]

meds go base c, heavies go base a (or c)

[ancient flax]

and yoloers go b

[elfin moth]

C

[steep forum]

Did they changed tank looks? i saw tiger I and 53tp markowskiego and look different

[wary wraith]

If you’re armourless, then you have speed. You can use that speed to outflank enemies who are hemmed in by the tight corridors of the map.

[wary wraith]

Nothing’s different with them. If you mean PBR, both tanks have had that for a while now. The 53TP was PBR on-release.

[misty bear]

Fix deadrail

[weary snow]

It only works in wot pc

[nocturne nimbus]

Is there any place I could find recent strats?

[jolly cedar]

there isnt really defined strats, mostly just somebodys personal playstyle with others

[nocturne nimbus]

ok thx

[civic berry]

seversk 13?!

[ruby dove]

I was just thinking Theodore Roosevelt national Park would make an awesome map!

[austere lark]

I love the pure chaos of this idea

[ruby dove]

Canyons galore!

[austere lark]

The amount of people trying to jump on other tanks from the top rope😂

[ruby dove]

😂

[ruby dove]

I remember once I destroyed a VK 100.01 (P) on black goldsville in a really funny way. It just happened that his tank was the exact height of one of the canyon walls. So I drove my T28 HTC right on top of him. He turned to fire at me so I drove backward so he couldn't shoot me. Then a light tank started harassing him from the other side. When he turned his turret to face the light tank, I drove on top of him again. The light tank and me were taking turns back and forth harassing him until I killed him by driving on top of him over and over again. 😆😂🤣. I think that's the hardest I've ever laughed in this game!

I actually sat on top of him and used him as a firing position to shoot one of his teammates while he was still alive. 😂

I can only imagine what that guy was thinking that I was shooting, who saw me shooting him, while sitting on top of one of his own teammates.

Something along the lines of "Useless VK!" I'm guessing 🤣

[ruby dove]

I don't know what's going on.... But one of my messages is stuck trying to send above, and I can't delete it.... And for a while I was unable to post anything at all.

I think I just broke discord....... What the heck. Don't you just love it when they focus more on adding features Instead of getting an app to just work properly?

[modern maple]

The fact that I can read this suggests that it works again

[ruby dove]

I restarted discord a couple times and it finally went away. That was really really weird. Something I did pissed off the bot hardcore, triggered some kind of administrative action where I wasn't allowed to post. Wow. What the heck...?

I've never seen anything like that before. That was extremely weird.

😐

[modern maple]

You can talk to the moderators if you think something went wrong with Dyno (the moderation bot)

[ruby dove]

I wonder if I should report it to discord. That was a pretty bad glitch.

What happened was I tried to make a post with some pictures, it wouldn't send all the way and got stuck permanently trying to send. I got a warning that I was posting too many times which I wasn't. I deleted the pictures but it still kept trying to send the message and was permanently stuck. I waited to see if it would go away, no dice. Asked around for some advice. Decided to just go ahead and force stop the app a couple times. Eventually it just went away after some time.

Everything seems back to normal now, but that was a pretty bad glitch.

[modern maple]

I‘m sure they‘d appreciate if you report any bugs you encounter

I am unsure what happened to you because I never heard anything like that happen before but eh, not like it matters. I‘m not the guy who has to reproduce it

[ruby dove]

I think some kind of connection issue with discord may have caused it. I'm just glad it stopped.

Whatever caused it, the bot definitely got angry. Bot no happy.

We should give the bot an offering of batteries and ram stick upgrades....

[heavy fractal]

the waffentrager auf panzer 4 is such a fast tank lol, engine is at the front and tier 5, ez to immobilize and damage. The new map is a perfect example of wargaming's ignorance of good map design. A bunch of corridors promoting hulldown. There no point going around and flanking if they have hulldown heavies camping behind as well.

[modern maple]

Because the corridors are so isolated it‘s fairly easy to flank on the new map, as long as you are prepared to fight fairly close to the enemies you flank

On the other hand disengaging is also easy because of how much cover there is everywhere

[wary wraith]

A) There was never a mention of the Waffenträger anywhere

B) It’s a great map to flank on if you know what you’re doing.
Get good.

[strong linden]

Its so happy when they’ve removed Dynasty Pearl map

That map is hard to play TD

[heavy fractal]

what if all the enemies were spread out and hulldown??? You can't flank that, and not to mention that I don't see you showing a real example

[heavy fractal]

No wonder all the meta tanks have the most firepower or the most armour as its distinguishing feature. What's the point of having a VZ when it has ez to hit cupolas and an ok gun

[wary wraith]

You’re bringing up scenarios that will rarely, if ever, happen. How about, instead of you strawmanning my arguement, you actually think for a moment and come up with a realistic example yourself.

[heavy fractal]

bro I already said I understand ur argument and retried my tactics

[modern maple]

If the enemy is spread out and hulldown you find one or two friends and yolo one of them

Being spread out is generally a disadvantage in Blitz so it won‘t happen often anyways

[heavy fractal]

love the yolo with autoloading meta. Especially prominent in ASIA

[ruby dove]

Seychelles in East Africa would make for a great map location! I never even knew about this place until now. Lots of boulders and rock formations to use as cover, some interesting terrain, great beaches, interesting land formations, lots of interconnected islands with shallow water, and the location is really nice. You guys up for some epic beach battles?

I think a tropical map like that would be a great addition to this game. Lots of little islands connected by shallow water you can drive through, with lots of rock formations and tropical vegetation, with a larger island in the middle

[civic phoenix]

They have it in Wot, oyster bay

[wide shale]

That looks so weird to have a tank battle on
Like how did the battle start on the island

[wide tree]

That would be super awesome in blitz

[ruby dove]

Oh something like that would be awesome! Especially if it had some little islands around it in shallow water you could drive through.

I would go to one of those islands, Wade down in the water behind it and hull down on the far side of the island in the surf where the sand dips down under the water. Perfect occasion for an armored destroyer. A nice clear view of the island, protected by a hill.

But of course not deep enough to take damage.

[red lake]

Armored warfare has a map like it you drive through water to reach tiny islands for cover while circling a massive abandoned base

[analog rune]

U-tanks. Like the U-panzer. But i doupt that it would be realistic if a maus is there.

[wide shale]

That makes sense, but the map looks like a loner island, it has an airstrip too so I would assume mainland, or at least allied mainland is not nearby

And why would you station tanks of such a small island too, you would transport tanks but not station them there indefinitely

[ruby dove]

A swamp map would also be welcomed.

Shake things up a bit.
Also a forest with large old growth trees.... maybe autumn.

You know I hate to say it but the only way mobile devices get better is if software developers keep pushing spec limits. Got to keep those hardware manufacturers on their toes, keep them improving devices so they can't slack off and just recycle old technology for premium prices. Apple does that crap all the time which is one of many reasons why I don't buy Apple.

[safe ivy]

man legit just decided to make a troll account today, tried to get banned, and failed. how sad is that?

[ruby dove]

Yeah I reported him to a mod

[safe ivy]

like 30 people tried to report him

[ruby dove]

😂 speech to text wrote "Ahmad" instead of "a mod"

[frosty ruin]

We should get a winter woods map of sort

[amber lotus]

So as you know sometimes you just push one side in maps like middleburg or new bay, right? But what if I’m running super slow superheavies like Maus or Kv-4, or tanks with zero depression like the 263 line? I’d be too slow to make it to the top to support my mates, or have the depression to work the ridge lines. So what should I do?

[ruby dove]

That would also be nice!

I also have to wonder if the devs were giving us a clue of maps to come with this artwork....?

[frosty ruin]

263 is quite fast and u shouldn’t really frontline with it
And when playing in the maus dont be shy to block your teammates from upcoming shells or just taking shells in general thats the whole purpose

[amber lotus]

How should I play the 263 line tanks

[frosty ruin]

Sit at the back of the map

[zinc trout]

263 is not fast

[frosty ruin]

Faster than jag and 183 wdym

[zinc trout]

That doesn’t make it fast lol

[scenic umbra]

can oasis palms map be banned in realistic mode ?

[kindred scaffold]

I hate that map tbh, heavy side is unplayable because, if someone crosses to the small island, they practically won the side.

[heavy fractal]

Every new map in wot is just acorridor hulldown meta map. The only fun ones are prokhovoka and malinovka and maybe himmelsdord. Plenty of room to move around. Flank, spot, hulldown etc.

[analog rune]

I mean isn’ it one of the fastest t10 td? 50 top speed is good and the acceleration is workable.

[scenic stratus]

That's just top speed. Because of p/w even 268 ends up being faster

[analog rune]

I said acceleration after.

And without top speed but more p/w you end up like centurion mk5 which always stop at 45km/h even thought the acceleration is really good.

[zinc trout]

Thing is you never get to 50.

[analog rune]

True, true.

[elfin moth]

I used to think that as well

[wary wraith]

Not really. The artworks don’t depict in-game maps.

[ruby dove]

Oh you work for them or know somebody who works for them? Or have you seen them say that?

[noble grove]

Bro where is :
-Lost temple
-Mirage

[wary wraith]

It’s called basic logic…

[graceful cave]

They died

[inland canopy]

Baller

[wide tree]

Yes. Why was that necessary

[ruby dove]

Sounds like it might be time to humble your ego a little bit.

[wary wraith]

Sounds like it might be time for you to work on your critical thinking.

[ruby dove]

Lol. Keep thinking that. Unless you personally know the person who made that picture, and you know exactly what they were thinking about when they were drawing it... You don't know anything. You're talking out of your backside.

And I'm not going to waste any more time on you. Blocked.

If it's one thing I really hate it's people who waste my time with their egos.

Humble yourself.

[wary wraith]

So a big company with an art department makes art to go with their vehicle advertising, and often bases it off of themes or Camos the vehicle has? Wow, that’s definitely a new map!

[noble grove]

:/ was that necessary?

[wild sand]

absolutely, 100%, how dare you doubt him

[noble grove]

Nostalgic map

[magic oasis]

it would be awsome if chernobyl was added... also like a radiation meter in nuclear maps!

[tall plover]

Let me guess, that thing slowly reduces the tanks' hp
So burning games gamemode? @magic oasis

[noble grove]

What if they added chetnobly and if the player gets near the Water it will radiate the tank and then corosive damage the tank + the crew

(Realistic map)

[misty bear]

Deadrail better be getting pbr and a rework

[ruby coyote]

Nah, it would just be à cool thing just for the funni.

[tall plover]

Might as well add NBC protection system mechanic for the tanks that have it like the T-55A

[gaunt kite]

NBC protection stat would be something lol

[drifting stump]

Bruh. There are no maps for TD’s anymore.
WG keeps adding buildings and hills so it takes all the fun out of a TD. Honestly, I liked it better when I was able to nuke someone from across the map.

[civic phoenix]

Wdym, there us plenty of tds maps. U are just driving the wrong places.

[drifting stump]

Then tell me the right places please

[civic phoenix]

@drifting stump Which maps?

[drifting stump]

Practically all of them

[civic phoenix]

Castilla, canal, dead rail, normandy, oasis palms and naval frontier are very good tds maps

[drifting stump]

But where in the maps

[wary wraith]

That is a massive skill issue. There are many maps with great TD positions, and if you can’t find any, then change up your gameplay.

[mellow moat]

I have a map idea!

A boat x2

A massive destroyer (boat) parallel with another in combat with like 2 paths between them like on other maps. Each team has a boat and there would be indoor hangers on each boat and there are other rooms that can fit a tank or 2. The whole map has cool immersive features like guns firing boat to boat. It would provide shelter for snipers, a place to combat with or without cover on the bridges to each boat and heaps of places to move to and around with a new strategic map!

If you have any ideas or suggestions to add please dm me!
React to this suggestion if u like and let's see if we can get it added

[wide shale]

where base caps

and gameplay sounds worse then Mines for this theoretical map

[modern maple]

Idea sounds cool but gameplay will probably be a completely stale heavy brawling nightmare. I just hope there‘s a plank so I can end it should I ever end on that map with a light tank

[tall plover]

It seems like a two pirate ships map from games like Pixel Gun 3d (one that i could remember), odd place for tanks imo

[wide shale]

lets not talk about how goofy it would be to have tanks fight each other on battleships

[modern maple]

I just need the option to take control of the main or secondary guns of the warship. Or maybe the torpedoes, so you can sink the other ship with the entire enemy team

[tall plover]

Leave the passageway between the two ship spawns open and it would be like medieval ships exchanging cannon barrages side to side

[wide shale]

just shoot the bridge and take out the entire command crew with a single HE shell

[void shale]

Damage saturation

[thin bluff]

They should add a 50v50 mode

[thorny stratus]

L A G

[thin bluff]

Yeah but just imagine rushing forward at a whole field of tanks while your comrades die at your side
Make the map a few kilometers in size and you can literally see 50+ shells flying in each direction like a barrage yk

[river canopy]

See, if you think that’s how a 50v50 mode would go, you’re sorely mistaken.

What would actually happen is everyone would be camping because even stepping one toe out of line would mean instantly dying to the 20 or so guns waiting for you to peek

[thin bluff]

:/ flat map maybe?

[thorny stratus]

Once devices get more powerful (ie. years in the future) they should make a map resembling the areas of France that have all of those thick hedgerows.

[thin bluff]

All those moving objects and shadows would need some powerful devices

If my history is correct, im pretty sure those hedgerows were a slaughter for both the french and germans
Would be cool if they added tank carcasses

[frosty ruin]

I think a 10v10 with a new big map would be better (maybe the fields of Europe)

[thin bluff]

Yeah thats a fair balance between chaos and not destroying wg’s pc

[green gazelle]

Boys I need help I am playing on mobile but cant play on the full map I am playing on half the map is it something on mobile or another issue

[jolly cedar]

if your new its a learning thing, you will unlock the full map and 7v7 battles after cmpleeteing the tutorial

[green gazelle]

I have completed the tutorial i think

I am playing with the bt 7 now or if its a download thing I dont know

[jolly cedar]

can you send a screenshot of your garage?

[green gazelle]

U see the map its only half

[frosty ruin]

Play for a bit

[remote halo]

thats indeed the map and matchmaking for new player
still a bit long way for 7v7 and full map

[green gazelle]

Okay thank u

[wheat elk]

@thorny stratus @thorny stratus

[thorny stratus]

???

[pure summit]

Maps update is now too high ping, I prefer old maps

[stark island]

how was the old desert 2015 map called?

the one with the waterfall n lake, some houses

[tall plover]

Mirage

[stark island]

they wont give it back in the future?

[tall plover]

No idea, only WG knows when

[stark island]

i wish they will, i remember my first battles on that map

[eager olive]

Phone will turn into an IED if that happens

[quaint bay]

Plis help where can I find the text settings so that I can change the language from English to Polish !!!?

[thin bluff]

💀💀<- people who play 50v50

[stark island]

in game ?

ig u'll find it in general settings

[fierce imp]

people who play cyberpunk >>>>>

[inland canopy]

How long u been playing bruh

U need to unlock 7v7

[gray sundial]

Wait, in the lagoon map in med side, it looks like that these crack when i drive on it

[wide shale]

They do
They also crack when you shoot them

[noble grove]

💀

[red lake]

This was advertised in the video showcasing the map

[left comet]

though it doesn't really effect anything, it's kinda cool to have that

[rancid imp]

f35 lightnin

[stoic field]

F-35 > A-10. Fight Me

[wraith basalt]

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[north cloud]

is that cropped porn bruh

[bold tapir]

Guys is vineyards in game?

[river canopy]

No. It was removed from the map rotation in the last update (thank god)

[inland canopy]

Screw you no A-10 better

[north cloud]

lmao

[stoic field]

A-10 pilots have to use binoculars to identify targets. An A-10 pilot once mistakenly saw orange panels on vehicles to signify they were friendly… the A-10 pilot thought they were rocket launchers and strafed a friendly convoy of British IFV and lightly armored vehicles. Also it’s not the 70s anymore where there are close in gun dogfights. I know the A-10 is a CAS aircraft that it goes for it to. Why use a gun when we could use a guided bomb or other precision weapons. It’s not Vietnam anymore so get your head out of the idea that it’s still the 50s-70s and gun fights are likely to happen

[inland canopy]

Gun does better then a guided bomb against small targets like tanks and be side the spotting and radar has been upgraded did u not see the upgraded A-10s that were sent to Ukraine and the ones we are using currently which is the upgraded model

[noble grove]

💀💀

[stoic field]

Why is the F-35 bad?

[inland canopy]

It’s just worse model of F-22

[stoic field]

It’s not made for air superiority like the F-22 is. It can do air to air but is less capable than the 22 cuz it’s not expected to. It’s a multi role fighter. Ever heard of that?

[wary wraith]

It isn’t. Let the reformers cope.

[wary wraith]

“Guns do better than guided bombs against small targets like tanks”

It’s like they don’t know what they’re talking about!

[thorny stratus]

better cheaper

[stoic field]

Amen. Kv2 pfp is going Pierre spray montage lol

[wary wraith]

Time to go laugh about this in the Lazerpig discord server

[inland canopy]

It’s cheaper and the Brrrrrtttt is amazing. Besides the A-10 is just superior then a bomb, the time to calibrate and aim the bomb takes much more then just spraying the tanks

[inland canopy]

And a guided is better for bigger targets not small ones

[zinc trout]

What even is this? The F-35 is a 5th generation multi-role fighter, the A-10 is a specialized CAS aircraft designed in the 70s. Yes, the F-35 is a better aircraft lol, it was also designed 40 years after the A-10.

[wary wraith]

Man does not understand modern technology

[inland canopy]

And a guided bomb is better for bigger targets not small ones if you need to get rid of small targets just use unguided cluster bombs

[zinc trout]

That’s… yikes. There is definitely a lack of understanding here

[inland canopy]

Cluster bombs are more effective against small targets

[zinc trout]

In specifically the CAS role, the A-10 wins. Who would’ve thunk that the specially designed CAS aircraft would be good at CAS. In every other scenario, the F-35 is better. Who would’ve thunk the gen 5 multirole fighter would be good at just about everything

[inland canopy]

F-35 just worse F22

[zinc trout]

Neither would carry cluster bombs though. They generally carry 500lb bombs.

[inland canopy]

Sorry I forgot bout that but other wise

[zinc trout]

Again, a clear lack of understanding. Don’t believe everything you see on the internet.

[inland canopy]

The F-22 has proven itself combat way more times, has better armament,and has outstanding radar capabilities

[zinc trout]

Is the F-22 a better air superiority fighter? Perhaps. But overall, the capabilities the F-35 provides are unmatched by any aircraft in the world

[zinc trout]

The F-22 got its first air-to-air kill this year against a balloon.

[inland canopy]

How about the time 5 F-22s shot down several Chinese fighter jets on the coast of China defending American Hawkeye radar planes

[zinc trout]

Would have happened recently

The F-22 is a great plane, but it’s still not a gen 5 like the F-35. The ability of the F-35 to track and designate targets to other planes is something the F-22 just can’t compete with.

[stoic field]

Don’t be like Pierre Spray: “Guns are better and will always beat the missile” like it’s Vietnam

[inland canopy]

Fair argument 🤝🤝

[stoic field]

and that my friend is why the F-35 is better than the A-10. Is simply more capable with all the new technologies. Now the F-35 does have its own issues like the $44,000 of maintenance it requires etc

[inland canopy]

It is more advanced but the F-35 is a pain in the butt for maintenance lol

We should’ve had this chat in general discussion

[stoic field]

Yeah. The mods are gonna get real mad

[inland canopy]

Yea

[random grove]

question

[wary wraith]

What?

What’s your question @random grove

[inland canopy]

That.That’s his question

[random grove]

why cant we have a specific tank system

that if we shot lets say the engine

then it willl temporarily dis able the tank but there is hit point system

[wide shale]

This is an arcade game
If you want the system you are talking about War Thunder has it fairly good

[random grove]

my question in simpler terms is that why cant we have kill system like war thunder

[analog rune]

Cause it’s not war thunder. The wg games never have those kind of system.

[wide shale]

Because this game is based around a hitpoint system, in a very arcade game
You literally revive the loader at the press of a button when he dies

And this is the map discussion channel

[random grove]

ohhhh

[analog rune]

Just wait a bit, war thunder coming on mobile 👍

[random grove]

yes

thank you for ur time

[cyan portal]

When lost temple back

[wide shale]

We don’t know

[analog rune]

Probably like at the 10 years anniversary of wotb.

[inland canopy]

It is on android but not IOS

[analog rune]

It won’t come on ios anyways. Android one is in beta.

[inland canopy]

Oh

[analog rune]

Ios won’t permit war thunder mobile for the same reason fortnite was banned on ios.

[inland canopy]

Oh right

[wary wraith]

Because the game isn’t meant to be realistic. It’s meant to be a “casual” yeah right arcadey sort of game.

[inland canopy]

If u want a realistic game just play warthunder duh, and WoTB is an arcade style game meaning it uses hit points also talk about this in #off-topic-discussion

[high dust]

Why cant we, why cant we

We do have "war thunder" like kills, ammorack explosion instantly kill anything

[quaint juniper]

to make the game more competitive and unique i guess

[noble grove]

Theres no actual crew in WOTB and how the heck did we get our crew injured

[analog rune]

There is tho.

[midnight fractal]

for the love of everything 😔 please fix this in fun modes. i just got graviton'd up and couldnt do anything and now well i can't get out

[patent moon]

Just a LTG on a building

[noble grove]

Tankman

[sharp isle]

Hacks

[noble grove]

Glitch (Look at his Health)

[coral onyx]

Spidertank is real, his name is Peter Panzer

[fleet phoenix]

His gf M4-RY J, and nemesis Green Tanklin

Doc. FV Octovius, Tanknom, Scorpion, Tanksand…

[noble grove]

Into the Spiderverse

[coral onyx]

Top 10 new ideas for Spiderverse

[fleet phoenix]

This one I just made up, Prowler the Smasher

[knotty jetty]

Lagoon - I have always 200-400 PING on that map and I'm not able to help the team. No shots hit targets, my tank is dancing around. It's so easy for an App to detect that my net is too low for that particular map and don't play it.

[jolly cedar]

His health is fine

[noble grove]

Tiger battle 🥶🥶🥶

[low lodge]

Just because you can’t see doesn’t mean they aren’t there.

[wide shale]

radio operator isn't real

[rich rock]

nah man, i aint gonna believe in your woke nonsense. there are only people people, no rectangle people.

[low lodge]

Sorry, I’m a crappy artist 🤣

[modern maple]

The two loaders were ignored 😦

[wide shale]

they don't exist
the Commander is the loader

[modern maple]

Is this meant as a joke?

Because if it isn’t, who are the two guys right behind the gunner and commander? Stowaways? Mounted infantry?

These guys are also the reason why the Grille has a comically large hitbox for the turret

[wide shale]

I have never seen the loader die on the Grille
and when my commander dies the load time is doubled, plus the loaders don't move with the turret in armor inspector

[river canopy]

They’re improvised armor😏

[noble grove]

Wait what website is that

[noble grove]

What website is thattttt

[modern maple]

https://armor.wotinspector.com/en/blitz/12305-e-50-ausf-m/?mode=xray.armor
But the app is better for mobile

[cinder arrow]

do they change map rotation every month?

[wide shale]

every 3 months

[lavish flower]

Bring back Mirage❗️❗️🗣🔥

[stoic field]

It also an app. Armor inspector

[quaint bay]

From now till somewhere in 2024, you will see it come back.

[lavish flower]

So they say

[humble valley]

Why can't i rotate the tank in armor inspector?

[modern maple]

Because the web application is kind of bugged. Try the app

[humble valley]

Desktop app?

[knotty quartz]

memegaming#0 was muted.

thereal_clown#0 was muted.

mekanox#0 has been warned.

[frosty ruin]

The grille experience: either gun broken or on fire

[analog rune]

Gun on fire?

[frosty ruin]

Tank on fire u dumdum

[analog rune]

You said either gun broken or on fire.. You should have said either the gun is broken or the tank is on fire. Be more clear even tho i understood. Remeber here that some people don’t speak nor understand english and use a translate.

[wide shale]

Bro got annoyed at a single grammar mistake

[analog rune]

Maybe i was bored anyways. 👌

[wide shale]

Happens

[analog rune]

I am the first doing those grammar mistakes anyways.

[stark granite]

Quando vai voltar os mapas?

[noble grove]

Ye

[small tangle]

Could someone explain me the difference between amx CDC, fcm 50t and amx bourrasque ?

[noble grove]

Medium tank , Heavy tank , light tank

paper armour , Some Armour , Some armour
2.7 m (8 ft 10 in) height , 3.02 m (9 ft 11 in) height , ???
Big , Big , Small

[past oxide]

They’re all medium tanks in game

[noble grove]

Wait what--

[jolly cedar]

Yep, all meds

[small tangle]

And in terms of gameplay?

[jolly cedar]

Cdc- fast and peekabo
Bc- big damage and run away
Fcm- trash heavium

[wide tree]

They all require skill to play, but the BC is the best and the FCM is the worst. The BC is the only one I’d recommend buying

[past oxide]

CDC is great fun - until you get HEd by a sneaky borsig

[opaque raven]

Rockfield is unfair.
There is a spawn where the med and light tank can have a advantage

[wary wraith]

Bro what 💀

Man’s complaining that the most underpowered class of tanks in the game have an advantage for once 💀💀💀

[wide tree]

I think he means how the one spawn can allow a fast tank to climb onto the cap hill on med side from the ridge (if that makes sense). Of course it’s just hot air, as that spot is a gamble and needs a lot of team support.

[patent walrus]

I miss oasis map

[quaint juniper]

mirage you mean?

[patent walrus]

Yep

[noble grove]

Tanks in theyre natutal habitat

[quaint juniper]

please make the löwe king

[quaint juniper]

https://tenor.com/view/wow-oh-my-god-omg-shocked-surprised-gif-15089848

[noble grove]

"The M4 Sherman waits his Victim to come a long the river as it watches the His victim drinking the water of the river" -National Tank Graphic

[lucid grove]

beautiful

[stone tendon]

Sherman crocodile 😁

[quaint bay]

a vietnamese guy already posted them before

[obtuse kelp]

when will we be allowed to blacklist maps? I don't want to get on castilla ever again istg

[stone tendon]

Heavy tank driver?

[obtuse kelp]

anything tbh, but yeah these days mostly HT/MT driver

[jade thunder]

M 36 Jackson please

[cinder arrow]

hey guys, does anyone know when the map rotation is switching and what maps will be in rotation?

[jolly cedar]

Wdym? It already in the game

[wary wraith]

Map rotation occurs at the end of every season. We don’t know what the next maps being removed are.

[stone tendon]

Medium tank experiance on castilla can be fun f you know what youre doing, same with Heavies. But for new players I can understand why you dont like it, since its very different to the usual brawling maps and actually requires teamwork

[river canopy]

Nah, medium experience is sit on your side of the castle and wait for the enemy to make mistakes so you can punish them. And you can't push them either, so you just have to sit there and hope the enemy makes your mistakes then your teammates

[obtuse kelp]

am not new player lol. not saying I'm any good at the game, but at least after 8 years I have some understanding of the theory of the game.....and also what would constitute a fun battle

and it is NOT sitting on one end waiting for some poor (and unfortunately nonethewiser) soul venturing slightly forward

[stone tendon]

randoms is different from ranked.. a lot of times you can push the hill through the side and eventually dig out the TDs. Or create a helpful cross fire onto the heavy hill.

[wide tree]

^
That’s been my experience as well. In random games you can usually brain on the enemy and take castle or at least help clear the heavy side quickly so the rest of your team can push onto their tds and allow you to move up. Ranked is a lot harder and pits more of what Posit1ve is saying, where you need to rely on the enemy to make a mistake first. Which is slow and boring.

[raw glade]

@patent moon should probably have posted that here, not in #vehicles-discussion but yeah honestly... New Bay is kind of a boring map in regular game modes, but in any of the limited time modes it quickly becomes a problem map.... I cringed whenever I got it in Big Boss.... twice I got perma stuck in a spot where I couldn't get free or support my team... and once I got perma stuck somewhere where I was basically perma-hulldown in a 121B where nobody could really aim at me, but I had a limited area of effective fire... the enemy's JPz E100 threw a tantrum about it... it was pretty funny tbh

[hexed echo]

The Löwe King

[patent moon]

Oh

[patent moon]

I do that on training room

Here another one

[quaint bay]

Cant wait to jump into safe zone in gravitizing

[wide tree]

There’s no jump ability in gravitizing as far as we know 😬

[quaint bay]

Then just get yeet there, no problems

[sinful glacier]

F

[meager vessel]

The reason why is so maus players can become steel bricks on wheels with an impressive speed of 65 km an hour. Maus normal speed around 25 + 20 from gravity and + 20 from supernatural power II

[jolly cedar]

Dont forget wolfstrike 2 that will cause many 1 hit kills with ramming

[rancid imp]

never sry kermit

[obtuse kelp]

gonna cry my froggy behind to copious amounts of sleep within the mountain of counter-sniped TDs

[warm merlin]

Why can't I get my rewards for playing tournaments?

[low lodge]

Great view from up here!

[patent moon]

Do you get there by enemy graviton or enemy boss?

[low lodge]

Their Boss and I both used our explosives at the same time. It blew me across the map and I hit the edge and landed on the roof. I was actually able to shoot some reds on the bridge. They couldn’t get me at all. It was quite funny.

[coral onyx]

I stayed here and couldn't get out for the rest of the game

[patent moon]

I flip a ltg upsidedown,(kinda) on the center of the map
(Can see almost the whole map)

[wintry basin]

mi server es NA_C0

[honest oxide]

thats why gravity games on this map could be really funny
i really hope it will be available in the new gravitising game mode
playing with the buildings could add some really fun mecanics and moments

[thorny stratus]

bro literally broke the physics engine 🤣 (upside-down is impossible in this game)

in more ways than one I see... (flying without gravity force...)

[iron stream]

Bros an upside down tank

[quaint bay]

Hi

[high needle]

yo guys

is it just me or anyone else that ghost factory does not come in the battles now as a map

[left parrot]

It, along with I think 2-3 other maps (don’t remember them exactly, ik vineyards was one of them) were temporarily removed, will be readded in about a month or two when the season ends

[mild hare]

it was Ghost Factory, Port Bay, Vinyards, Dynasty's Pearl, and one more I can't remember rn

[high needle]

yaa 2-3 maps . oh ok thank you

[high needle]

oh ok

[quaint bay]

I once did that amx glitch, got there and survived

[undone horizon]

Hey, so am I like the fist person to find this on Lagoon map? , if so please let me know how I can tell WG….

[quaint juniper]

for clarification, this guy is NOT the first one to find this. this guy is the one who found it

https://youtube.com/shorts/byAcZdrf1F8?feature=share

[fierce imp]

no

[dawn lagoon]

where can I find guides for better map positioning?

[stone tendon]

You can find on YouTube probably, but positioning yourself right just comes with you getting to know the map

usually the video will tell you to go here or there but everything is situational: your tank and the matchup that you are against

[shadow geode]

go with the lemmings

[thin bluff]

I go with the 183

[knotty quartz]

josheyboss592#0 was banned.

[errant nimbus]

Does anyone know when they reintroduce in game the maps they took out a few months again??

In rotation I mean

[remote halo]

in the next season rotation obviously

[errant nimbus]

Yea I know, but when is that gonna be

[remote halo]

in around 1.5 month if im not mistaken
end of august

[errant nimbus]

@remote halo thx mate

[noble grove]

Immq check that out

[noble grove]

Bro where is ittt

[winter moth]

Maybe your graphics are too low

[noble grove]

h ok

[quaint trout]

winter malinovka?

im pretty sure everyone in high teirs know that Camping the House in medium side is the best way to not get shot by everyone lmao

[river canopy]

I don’t really like those house positions. It doesn’t put any offensive pressure on the enemy, and if you lose either the mound by your spotting bush, or the corner, that puts you in serious danger.

The thing about medium side is that you cannot allow yourself to get stuck down there. If you go med side, you need to go in; crush the enemy, and get out to seize the spawns. Otherwise, if the enemy gets tanks in the spawns and/or the middle, you’re toast. If you just camp at the house, you’re contributing absolutely nothing to help your team to get out of that position, and you’re committed too far to run away if needed

[quaint trout]

Ah so the best way to win as Medium in Winter Malinovka is to go Aggressive, no wonder most of my wins as MT/LT on that map is going aggro.

[river canopy]

Yeah. The way I play med side, is if I think we can overmatch them, I just hold W key and try and smash them in the first minute. No spotting, just full W key.

Otherwise, if I don’t think my team will overmatch the enemy, I usually just fire a few blind shots at the spotting bush as a delaying action, then run away

[quaint trout]

Thanks for this, now whenever I get winter Malinovka in my MTs i will now know what to do at the start of the match instead of getting rekt.

[empty belfry]

nice

[quaint bay]

Why 4 maps got deleted lol

Perle der Dynastie , Weinberge , Kupfer Minen , and Geister Fabrik (The German Map names)

[analog rune]

It’s map rotation each 4 months some maps get removed from the match making.

[thorny stratus]

nice view lol

[quaint bay]

and we get new?

[solemn arrow]

first time see this bug, I think it's somehow related to here

[solemn arrow]

and they gonna remove 4 from the ones we play nowadays and place the taken 4

[quaint juniper]

peak blitz gameplay

[quaint bay]

ah , but when we get new

[noble grove]

Nobody :
My brain after seeing that :
"Darkness Mode :

• Maximum Distance that is able to be see is 10 meters
• Locked in Aiming mode
• Creepy noises"

[lone delta]

just realized if you click the boombox thingy in hangar it plays some really good music

[lone delta]

ik about that

[quasi palm]

i wish wotb will have a wot mode where rules are like wot with their big maps and their long play times

[silver meadow]

that's so cool!

[wary wraith]

Just play WoT then

[jolly pier]

I think i was the one to yeet u out of the map💀💀

[quaint trout]

mobile phone gamers seeing the next update is going to be 2GB because of WoT maps

[quasi palm]

tbh its fine, players can have options to download the map if they want access or something

[quasi palm]

i cant cuz been playing mobile since being gamer, i dont even know how to use wasd lol + account progress doesnt transfer

[quaint trout]

play Counter Strike 1.6 on a PC to learn WASD, or many other basic PC games out there

[quasi palm]

lol on a mac dont think wot on mac

anyways my hopes is that once phones get even better we can start having big maps

[indigo raptor]

💀 that dude drive out of the map or something when i taking a break

[jolly pier]

Idk i was in a tog 2 remember hitting an amx light tank with inferno then it was yeeted out of map so i told the rest of the team to cap base

[indigo raptor]

wait u in that match too?

[jolly pier]

I suppose yeah

[indigo raptor]

but howyou are in eu but this is asia what da hellllll

[jolly pier]

Well i have also an asia acc

[indigo raptor]

oh ok

[cold lake]

What do you expect

[blazing bronze]

why there is certain maps i dont see anymore in blitz?

[cold lake]

Indeed, there are some gone,like ghost factory, but it will come back *they said

[hot path]

I've seen worse but yeah, it's wild

[blazing bronze]

the pearl one too

[red lake]

Map rotation

[quaint trout]

why the hell do we need map rotation? i want to play those maps in regular bro

[river canopy]

I honestly wish that the maps that were rotated out never come back. All of them were garbage

[quaint trout]

Bruh I like Ghost Factory, Dragon Pearl or whatever that map is isn't the best but is good for gamemodes

[jolly cedar]

Vineyards was a good map

[river canopy]

Lol no. Vineyards was absolute garbage because South spawn won literally like 80% of the time since the map was so ridiculously unbalanced. The only way North spawn could win is if the South spawn team all went town

[jolly cedar]

Personaly its my top 5 fav maps

[river canopy]

I love that they pulled vineyards because it means I no longer automatically lose games just because I load into the wrong side of the map

[stone tendon]

in ratings and tourneys it’s painful. OK. In public matches it’s fun : P

I would rather carry in Vineyards then Faust any day

you have much more breathing space on that map

[sharp isle]

Next year rebalanced lost temple???

[granite ermine]

i want to seee the map back on old blitz

[quaint bay]

I wish they reintroduce the blue foggy map that was there so long ago

[past oxide]

Night vineyards/rock field?

[quaint bay]

No this one it had fog and was fun in an update but then they changed it an ruined it old ones were fun it was blueish once i loved color

This see

[past oxide]

That’s just lost temple before they reworked it, and they didn’t ruin it

[vague wyvern]

even thout i never played on the first version of the lost temple, i think that it still looked the best

[quaint bay]

Yea i loved it

[quaint bay]

I wish they’d bring it back

Was so fun to go to the center by the stair and rain down damage in my t29, those were the days

[red lake]

I do not remember lost temple being a pre existing map

[quaint bay]

It was and was so fun

@quaint bay lol yea

🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥

[kindred scaffold]

I have files of it

Maybe i can make video from it

[digital hound]

Weegee is remaking lost temple and mirage?

[red lake]

For the past 2 1/2 years at this point consider it never coming

[sand void]

When are desert sands and himmelsdorf getting removed/reworked

[placid hamlet]

idk

[karmic wyvern]

Bring back Fata Morgana and some nice old maps i didnt see for like 5 years

[quaint juniper]

desert sands is apparently already in rework, here are some screenshots

idk about himmelsdorf though

[wide shale]

Unfortunate
Another mid map gets PBR before any of the better maps

[past oxide]

Those screenshots are old, from the last time it was reworked

[scenic stratus]

Yeah those changes are already in the game if I am not mistaken

[meager garden]

It does need to come back

[quaint bay]

Yea old maps were fun

[stone tendon]

Looks like just a visual improvement

[elfin moth]

Himmelsdorf is said to be expanded by adding the castle area, so is the mines map

[shut egret]

if your not capping then im actually gonna be quite happy about a map for once

[elder tiger]

How do you get up the hills near spawn in Canal? Apparently you can only do it in a certain spot and I haven't been able to figure it out

[quaint trout]

i remember it being easier last year, i can climb like 3 hills in my Jagdtiger 88cm then bam, now i can only climb two in the south spawn.

as for north spawn, you need a fast and light tank like vickers LT or charioteer to do it i think.

[elder tiger]

oh dang it only works for one spawn (for slow TDs)?? that's fair and balanced

[radiant kettle]

pls add mirage back. its litterally one of the most OG maps and every one loved it

[stone tendon]

Look at the texture on the hills, if it is dark green you should be able to climb up it, usually you approach the from an angle. Both sides are possible obviously…

[quaint bay]

Could someone share screenshots of the experience heat maps for Alpenstadt, Faust, Naval Frontier, Normandy, & Oasis Palms?

[elder tiger]

Appreciate the videos man, thanks

[glad star]

Remove mine from top tier

[quaint trout]

and add mirage back

[wary wraith]

This already happened

[scenic cedar]

And Lost Temple both were goated and better than most of the current maps

[unreal nebula]

Wastelands blows and I will not take any counter arguments

[quaint bay]

Agreed

[quaint trout]

i agree

[modest niche]

is vineyards a map anymore? it used to be a lot of fun

[shut egret]

Still exists, just not in this current seasons map rotation iirc

[modest niche]

ok i see. thx

[quaint trout]

why the hell do we need map rotation

[quaint juniper]

so that c1b tryhards can make their wr higher

[quaint trout]

map rotation is lame.

and like what, they only added just one map

[stoic field]

Yeah wg needs to make their terrain/traction more realistic. Ive gotten stuck in a slight bump that one of my tracks was on

[hybrid locust]

why has Lost temple and Mirage got removed?

[quaint juniper]

according to wg they were going to “rework them”

[quaint bay]

its been a year now

[quaint juniper]

two years actually

[quaint bay]

wow

[hybrid locust]

damn

[lucid dirge]

lol

[odd glade]

Might as well announce it wont come back

[stone tendon]

It takes practice

[wide shale]

It’s still stupid to lose over half your speed and momentum by “tripping” on a lump in the ground

[quaint bay]

Make a completely flat map with no cover cuz memes

[dawn flint]

Call it Minecraft Flat World…

[still karma]

Agreed vickers
...btw, this is my spare acc from Elliott_Unconquerable

Someone like SpongeBob SquarePants?

I often get stuck on bumps too

Wg needs to fix those issues...

[fleet phoenix]

Ye I would like to see what would happen

[stoic field]

…

[small tangle]

Is there any kind of ressource referencing all the best tank destroyer spot ?

I'm trying to figure out those spots so I can switch. Most of time I end up waiting for the enemy getting in my sight, but that means my team already lost the flank

[karmic wyvern]

bring back old maps!!! FATA MORGANA for example. i have so many memories with these maps

[wary wraith]

Fata Morgana? What are you talking about?

[karmic wyvern]

Yes Fata morgana an old Map

i dont know english name for the map

[kindred scaffold]

Fata Morgana, you are right...

[wary wraith]

Lost Temple?

[past oxide]

Mirage

[white rover]

Some maps are straight away bad for TDs and u gotta play aggressive by pushing mid.

Hellas for example needs to be played aggressive if u have a fast moving TD like Jgpanther II

[snow cedar]

i miss lost temple so much

and copperfield

[west token]

wait does copperfield have a tier restriction

i think its t7 cuz i rememby being able to use bulldog on the map

[dawn roost]

What do people think of adding Event game modes to practice room?

[chrome shell]

Mirage is gone

[shut egret]

And would be just fun in general, realistic form for hide and seek, and gravity for rvr or uprising for having multiple life's

[quaint juniper]

i hate the idea, what’s the point of having special gamemode events and tourneys when you can just open a room and play it without having to wait for it to release? it removes the excitement of those gamemodes and tourneys

[shut egret]

It's balanced out by not earning any credits or XP so it'd be just a waste of time if we're grinding, and aren't tournament battles just regs with the rating system built in?

[sand herald]

Why I Never Get Ghost Factory Map. Why?

[quaint juniper]

remember that gamemodes are not just for grinding, but for the fun too. also i’m not talking about those tourneys, i’m talking about tourneys with special gamemodes like big boss tournaments or burning games tournaments. and no, regular tournaments aren’t just reg with rating system since you are sometimes matched with players better or worse than you by a margin, unlike in ratings

[velvet shoal]

Ghost factory is removed on the map rotation along with other 2-3 maps, it should come back in the next season

[shut egret]

Yeah but considering the horrible teammates I've been having I don't see the fun element anymore, but I still get your point

[rare solar]

Make mines bigger. For T8-10 battles it just feels too small.

[barren dew]

No its not u just have to learn how to play it , no map is to small it just depends on the player u are

[remote halo]

mines is indeed too small for high tier match, theres not much you can do there
its either hill rushing for mt/lt
stalemate for hts waiting for the other side to peek
sleepfest for tds at the back cuz no one dares to peek
or being almost useless if you go to river or cap side if you dont extend alot with the risk of getting shot by tds

[shut egret]

not to mention the problem of players on map themselves

[wary wraith]

I can’t believe that a comp player is dumb enough to think this.

Some maps are indeed too small for high tier gameplay, an issue that is emphasized when said maps has areas that do not provide benefits to gameplay (Island and Town on Mines) and can weaken a team if players play there. Mines is too small and should not be allowed in high tier matches, that’s it.

[barren dew]

No matter how small a map is (unless for if it's copper field) u have to always learn how to adjust whether u like it or not

Don't get me wrong the maps are small and hard to work but as long as it's not copper field no map is to small as I said u need to learn how do adapt

[red lake]

No mines is hated very much for this reason

Not only does it come down to whoever rushes the hill first but even if the hill is successfully taken they still have to rely on team mates putting pressure on the enemy and games always turn into stalemates of heavies slugging at the rocks or attempting to flank

[left comet]

yeah mines should atleast have a tier limit of 7 like copperfield, rather small for t8-10 games

[shut egret]

or me in my type hulldowning and just popping shots when people poke

[quaint trout]

but how else is WG supposed to make money off of Hulldown HT meta if they removed one of the maps where having a hulldown HT is the only way to play?

[barren dew]

Fair point

[pine snow]

ищу людей в турнир

[rustic flax]

@pine snow гоу я напишы в лс

[finite jetty]

Language bruh

[wet warren]

Add mirage back pls

[rough bear]

:!
What do you even do on lagoon?

[quaint trout]

Lagoon sucks, and we cant play other maps because of map rotation, all because of that map, darnit

[river canopy]

Win heavy corner, then camp on the ledge overlooking middle. And if enemies accidentally isolate themselves in the spawns or in the B cap area, you can go over and annihilate them

[primal peak]

What is map rotation is it the reason why i cant play on other maps anymore?

[quaint trout]

yeah, they made ghost factory adn some other maps i forgot the name of unavailiable for this season, for map rotation

[primal peak]

Ok

[hidden thistle]

Please fix this bug

[idle flax]

...

[white rover]

Gosh fix the map bugs. Once stuck, can't get out. Literally lost 2 matches bcoz of getting stuck.

[ancient flax]

faust is great

[quaint juniper]

6/10

[wide shale]

my favorite map
also the only night map
and the only active military base map

[shut egret]

old nighttime vineyards and rockfield pls come back 🙏

[scenic stratus]

Active enough that they launch a missile right as you start the battle

[snow cedar]

i like faust

has a lot of options for heavies with different armor profiles and the crossfire from med side gives the meds an incentive to decisively win their side

[quaint bay]

am I the only one who doesnt like invisible walls

[steel sail]

no

[naive bloom]

we honestly do need more night maps, its more fun.

[analog rune]

They could add them for realistic? What would you think about that? Then if they see lads like it they could add them.

[shadow geode]

We need night maps with massive amounts of artificial lighting

[digital hound]

How about night map?

[stone tendon]

🤮

[elder bear]

Mirage is bad (this is a joke dont find me and hunt me down)

[stone tendon]

it was pretty bad, felt smaller that copper field

[quaint trout]

It's bad in competitive, like Mines, but man, is it beautiful.

[raw harness]

I think that if we reduce the spot area just for tank and heavy fighters by half, and for light and medium fighters by 25%, the maps would be much better used and matches would not last too long or rely too heavily on ranged hits

[mild hare]

I just wish all maps were still in training rooms, even if you can't battle on them. Being able to drive around Mirage, Lost Temple, that'd be great

[quaint trout]

yeah, if they really reworked mirage i hope we can still drive in the old ones.

hell even teh old versions of other maps would be nice

[naive bloom]

too late.

[granite arch]

Give us Ghost Factory, Vineyard, Dynasty's Pearl and Port Bay back

[jolly cedar]

they didnt even leave forever,there comming back in a month

[jolly cedar]

map rotation

[barren sage]

mirage n lost temple when

[granite arch]

Ik, but this map rotation is quite dumb tbh

[quaint trout]

we have no reason for map rotation and i hope they remove it

[shut egret]

I remember hearing something about low end devices but it doesn't make sense that they're still in training rooms

[quaint trout]

my phone is low end as hell yet it runs ghost factory,vineyards,and port bay darn well better than the new map Lagoon

most of my memories of those 3 maps are me playing in a low end device yet still have stable 60fps at ultra low(cant say teh same for ping)

[shut egret]

Considering that I'm on a highendish PC I can't say Ive ever had a problem with any of the maps obviously, for me it just gets annoying having to see the exact same map every five to six games

[scenic stratus]

Well ghost factory, vineyards and Port Bay are not PBR maps so their performance is better than on the newest PBR map

I suppose PBR is not enabled because of the settings but it still is a map with more polygons

[quaint trout]

honestly, i see absolutely no reason for map rotation to exist in this game, unless we get 20+ maps availiable in matchmaking

they should just remove map rotation honestly, these maps over and over are boring as hell

[scenic stratus]

We do have like 30 maps tho

[quaint trout]

not for regular though, maybe if you add skirmish but skirmish maps are like sawed off versions of regular maps anyways

[scenic stratus]

30 regular maps. Although some of them are tier locked.

[quaint trout]

wait which ones?

[scenic stratus]

Hold on

Copperfield is the only one not available at high tiers. So 29 tier 10 maps. If we ignore map rotations

[quaint trout]

wow neat, it felt like just 10 for me, maybe its also because of map rotation

[scenic stratus]

Well 5 maps less is 24. And it just feels like you get the same few maps in a play session

Eh I just play tier 8 and 10 so yeah I suppose.

[quaint trout]

what happened to mines lol

[quaint trout]

map rotation sucks

[barren sage]

normandy

[agile jolt]

i havent gotten some maps in weeks

[wide tree]

They were removed temporarily by the new map rotation. They’ll be back next season and several other maps will not be in use.

[quaint juniper]

i hate lagoon

[quaint trout]

absolutely mid map and the fact that it was probably the reason for the map rotation too

[analog rune]

Legit one of the best map for mediums / lights tho. More spots tompop off of. Multiple place to hulldown, alot of place to flank enemies.

[wide tree]

It’s one of the hardest to play correctly because of all the inlets and outlets. I’m still learning how to play it well even after all this time.

[stone tendon]

Personally don’t like it, not open at all

[wide shale]

I think it’s a pretty fun map, lots of opportunities to do stuff and isn’t hard to rotate anywhere since TDS aren’t locking down every single lane after they get into position

[wide tree]

That is true. I could name several maps where once a td is spotted, it’s trapped for the whole game. I enjoy the map because I find a new spot almost every game 😂

[summer pulsar]

I wonder when can have something actually historical maps like Berlin and Paris map

[shut egret]

when they can figure out how to make it pander to td's

[quaint trout]

they dont want TDs now considering how hard of a nerf Grille is getting.

they want to make it pander to Hulldown HTs with impennable narrow turrets like Concept 1B and Tornvagn

[stone tendon]

someone gets it

[magic vine]

imagine if the grille got a 400mm buiff on its turret and 12 degrees of gun dep frontally

[shut egret]

and hulldown mediums for some part (im looking at you stb)

[modest plover]

if you shoot guided rocket at something from exaclty 300 meters, this happens

[wide shale]

You’re missing textures

[celest frigate]

Really genius?

[quaint trout]

dead rail is decent for T10 imo.

but Mines is just a absolute meme at this point for tier 10 you know your gonna suffer when you see it as the map you got for a match

[stone tendon]

noobs will be the death of this game

[quaint juniper]

that means this game is already dead

the true death of this game is if they make it unfair and p2w like wot pc

[stone tendon]

wot pc is unironically so much more enjoyable because of the amount of flexibility maps offer

And the fact that low tier is actually playable.. I can’t even load into a game below tier 5 in blitz

[quaint juniper]

true, but how about the tank balance in that game? like the bz176 or ebr 105? (even though ebr is a tech tree)

[stone tendon]

Well it doesn’t really affect me considering that it’s 15v15 and a single tank can’t really do much. in a 7v7 format, 2 smashers for example just messes up your whole game.

[covert latch]

Heavy crossings in some maps are F’d up

[quaint juniper]

thoughts on naval frontier? i think it’s a really good map, heavy side is great for hulldown and second-line tanks, the spotting positions are juicy good and the camping positions are really nice

[full gate]

Fav map behind canal

[white rover]

Someone tell me how to play oasis palms effectively. That map literally turns my confidence to 0

[trail mist]

There is no correct way to play a map, it will always depend on what your team does and the tank you have but usually or at least that's how I play it using heavy and td is pushing from the center being heavy or camping from base being td

Usually it is good to be in the center while the mediums and light detect from south and where you see many enemies decide if you push from the center or you are going to support them always avoiding that the fights are going to be very unequal

If the mediums or light don't detect anyone from south then stay in a well covered point of your base as they are most likely coming from the north so you wait for your scouts to flank them

but as I said, this varies a lot and it will depend on whether you don't get a team full of campers or that they have less than 3 neurons

[white rover]

Most of my oasis palms match is a loss cuz nobody flanks and just keeps swarming around the spawn

[trail mist]

Tank tier?

[white rover]

Tier 8 to X

[trail mist]

In case your team doesn't flank, just stay in points with good vision and coverage and try to spot one.

wrong images hmm

These are the points with the best vision and coverage of the map

In case the enemy comes from the north, if they are pushing, try to exchange damage from the base, if they stay in the base and you know where everyone is, then try to flank using the the center channel for the fastest and stealthiest or through the south if you are a fast tank for the safest

[trail mist]

wow that's weird, mine are almost always kamikazes

[white rover]

Thanks for the tips! @trail mist

[trail mist]

you're welcome

Hmm I thought I already did, delete and reinstall the game seems to reset the settings, I'm going to do that, thanks

[misty bear]

Fix dead rail

[quaint juniper]

dead rail’s balanced honesty

hate on me all you want

[misty bear]

I won't Hate on you but I would like to know why you think it's balanced

It has one big issue that needs fixed and then it will be the average map

[austere lark]

How

[misty bear]

It just needs like rocks or a wall because if you make a push on medium side you get obliterated by a td camping in the complete opposite corner
(Yes I get that's why it's set up that way but it's painfully op on dead rail)

[austere lark]

Sounds like a skill issue

The map itself is fairly mirrored north/south so one side doesn’t really have that much of an advantage over another

Why don’t you assume there’s a td until proven otherwise then?

[misty bear]

It's not a side based problem

[austere lark]

It’s a lack of thinking problem

There’s three places for a td to go

[misty bear]

And also I'm not going to let the enemy heavies steamroll ours and then flank our meds

[austere lark]

Left corner, middle rails or right corner

Just assume they’re in front of you until they get spotted

[misty bear]

True

[austere lark]

You know the small sharp hill on the right red line?

It’s middle of the right hill

Go up that at some point and peak very slightly over

[misty bear]

Tbh it's just annoying to hear droodles complain about dead rail every time he's on dead rail

[austere lark]

Usually it spots the corners fairly well

Listening to him is a choice

You could listen to him, or not

[misty bear]

He too funny when he's mad

Which is all the time lol

[austere lark]

Long story short, play passive and scared. You’ll live longer and win more

Thank you for coming to my ted talk

[lilac creek]

We need it

[ornate breach]

Wg developers should now speed up in bringing maps with better graphics and I think the maps should be enlarged more, it's been a long time since the game got a graphics update

[red lake]

Nah

[quaint trout]

the problem with large maps for WOTB is that my laptop would run the game as slow as War Thunder if that happens

[remote halo]

if you can even run wt some bigger wotb maps shouldnt be a problem

[pearl marsh]

point all the tanks to hill on mines ffs
like just stop suggesting that players should go town

[upper dome]

deadrail is a fine map

[quaint juniper]

keep in mind there are players out there with devices that can’t handle those

[upper dome]

the problem is how y'all play it. Way to many heavies rollplay TD's on it, to many people camp on it.

[quaint juniper]

anyways hate on me all you want but i think castillia is a balanced map. ya’ll just call it bad because you can’t yolo in your is7

[upper dome]

especially annoying when front line TD's like the E3 camp in the back when we're down a heavy from med side.

[upper dome]

All TD maps are balenced. doesn't mean they're good. IMO td's shouldn't exist. If I wanna get nuked from tanks in the back of the map who are never going to get spotted I'll play wot.(opinion)

Yah I can't yolo in an IS-7, but it'd sure be nice if heavy side wasn't a farm fest for the mediums that went hill and the TD's on the ridge. I don't play heavies, but heavies seem kinda useless on castila unless they go med side.

[quaint juniper]

castillia’s heavy side is one thing i couldn’t argue about. it generally feels lackluster and unexciting.

and yes, balanced doesn’t always mean good

[noble grove]

History 🗣️🔥🔥🔥🔥💯💯