maps-discussion

[spiral bane]

Yeah but i still dont like the map

[stone tendon]

Why not ?

[spiral bane]

Because on medium side idk what to do and i mostly get rekt by some td. Also the only good scenario for this map is when i play a stealthy td or hulldown tank but i dont own such tanks

[stone tendon]

Ok well the main objective for the mediums is the spot the tds who are camping in 2 of the 3 sniper positions by flanking, then farming and heavy down in the pit

[spiral bane]

Yeah whatever…

[stone tendon]

In other words: git gud 🙃

[spiral bane]

😔

:(

[stone tendon]

🐸

[quaint bay]

#removemiddleburg

[stone tendon]

Restrict it to tier 3 and make it the wotb mittelburg

[faint lynx]

#addDeadRailtoo

[lament widget]

Make it the that old map with the ruined city in the middle and you spawn on a big hill on either side

[stone tendon]

Ye it was a fun little map

[lament widget]

THAT MAP was fun, just because there was no strategy, and all hell would break loose

Yeah it was called mittengard

[stone tendon]

I remember doing a blitzkreig in a toon of 3 t2 lights, we melted 4 tanks in the first 1 minute

[lament widget]

You could do that here (of course with only 2 people) pre 5.5. Or something like a t7 car

[stone tendon]

Yea the 25 round clip was really cool. To bad they babied this game :PP

[lament widget]

Back when I played wot it was always fun using the pz 1 c and racing other people around the train tracks of the map live oaks

Kinda like how people do the around the map challenge with things like the Dracula in blitz

The only thing I REALLY wish that they would add to blitz from wot is the music. I know we have music from wot, but they have unique songs to each map, all sounding amazing. Something small, and in my opinion easily doable

[stone tendon]

That would be really cool, as well as adding music during the battle, would make it a lot more atmospheric.

[lament widget]

fr

[brave pivot]

will we ever get the chance to select maps that we want to play like training rooms and if this will be implemented will we get maps like Castilla light dead rail light cause my pc sucks always 20 fps

[marble gyro]

Try to lower the graphics and if you cant run blitz anyway it's just your old pc's fault
What processor and graphic card u have?

[brave pivot]

i have everything low and my processor is Intel(R) Pentium(R) 3556U @ 1.70GHz 1.70 GHz and my graphics card is Intel(R) HD Graphics

[marble gyro]

Man thats a 2013 processor 💀

It's older than blitz itself

[brave pivot]

true but when i played this game 2020 still this pc i didnt have any probs

[marble gyro]

In 2020 blitz had graphics of almost a 2018 game, so it was almost fine

[brave pivot]

i think wg needs to like add an option where all the graphics is like the old one

[marble gyro]

Rn blitz has almost up-to-date graphics, which require a not-almost-10yo processor

[marble gyro]

Graphics are basically still the old ones unless u select max graphics

[brave pivot]

everything is in ultra low but i still see the new graphics the only setting that i had put on low (not ultra low) is draw distance so i can see the tracks

[marble gyro]

It's just your processor and pc man, it's just too old

[brave pivot]

i bought this pc in 2015 or 2016

[marble gyro]

Your pc is as old as the game itself 💀

[stone tendon]

if you really need to you can set the screen quailty of your PC lower through settings

[brave pivot]

where is it in the settings? i need now cause lag

[marble gyro]

Pc settings, and lower the screen resolution

[stone tendon]

settings > display > scale and layout

[brave pivot]

after 2 yrs of learning bout tech this is the only thing i havnt noticed

[scenic stratus]

These are the minimum spec requirements. Your system is inadequate. I doubt you were running 60fps before pbr started either.

[harsh warren]

game now 🙂

[cobalt aspen]

The map that i hate, is castila

[stone tendon]

Cope, seethe, dilate

[marble gyro]

Go medium side, ez

[patent topaz]

yolo b

[quaint bay]

same bro 😥

[acoustic perch]

6.1gb is with mods though

[stone tendon]

nope 6.1 is with steam

[halcyon wren]

half the reason i hate Castilla is just due to the fact it runs horribly on my PC

which can manage every other map at pretty mid-high graphics, at a constant smooth 60fps

but not Castilla.

best it can do normally is 20-45 fps

[wide shale]

Let me guess, you keep your graphics on high, but you don’t want to turn the graphics down for just one map

[acoustic perch]

What PC specs you got?

[halcyon wren]

got it in one

[scenic stratus]

Well if you have a reasonably good PC, you'd expect a game that runs on mobiles to run well on your system

[kindred pasture]

this, i guess many people just have really shitty PC's or tons of bottle necks. one thing these people should try is closing some backround process. so many people just dont do it and then complain about bad performance.

[scenic stratus]

Yeah that is quite true. But I will still mention that the PC ports aren't nearly as optimized as mobile. Not to mention PC doesn't get the dynamic resolution thing to maintain fps at the cost of graphics dynamically.

Even if the PC clients are optimized more in the next few months, more pbr maps will come and performance won't increase dramatically. You get 20 fps now on castilla, you'll likely continue to get similar performance on other remastered maps when they arrive. People will have to sacrifice visuals for fps.

[kindred pasture]

true, but thats there choice. if you complain about fps lower your graphics quality. and if you complain about bad graphics lower your fps. if you complain about both get a better pc/phone/computer and stop telling wg to "fix their game".

[solar solstice]

This is why I love castillia

Sat on a hill shooting on tanks with barely any depression

At the end it was a 1v4 the last guy was basically afk only helping at the end of the game

[hollow dew]

bots against you

[solar solstice]

Yep

The Churchill was the only real player

[torn escarp]

Free ace

[solar solstice]

Precisely

[brave pivot]

i have now fixed my lag issue (i didnt buy a pc) also i had 60 fps before pbr also because i fixed my lag issue i am now running 50 fps

[scenic stratus]

Care to elaborate how. It might help others

[brave pivot]

this is for pc only tho

[acoustic perch]

How did they respond to the WGCheck log?

Also if you want to boost performance, you could try Razer Cortex. They have performance boost things as well as other optimization options (such as cleaning unused RAM)

[brave pivot]

they still didnt respond but someone responded me for another question

[dreamy wave]

How about the devs try to introduce night mode in maps??🤔

[tall plover]

Faust, feels the same as day cause the map arent dark though

Would be cool if wg makes a tropical semi forest map including a hut village.

And more historically-based maps

[pearl berry]

Hey, would anyone tell me how medium tanks like the panther would be played on Black Goldville? I'm a beginner player LOL

[tall plover]

Dont be too exposed and keep the gun firing, the ground arent completely even (there are also on some spots at the cave) so at some spot the lfp arent visible

[pearl berry]

Okay, I'll see what I can do from that
Thank you! :D

[stone tendon]

I would rather they include different spawn layouts per map, would make the game a lot more interesting and it’s easy to do

[scenic stratus]

They should design new maps with that as a possibility. I don't think there are many maps that would allow for different spawns without giving one team a big advantage. Partly because of how maps have been designed so far(3 lanes)

[gray totem]

anyone agrees that Fort Despair is the ugliest map and should be eradicated?

why is it so orange? i have never seen grass this orange

[gray totem]

wow
its so uglee

[scenic stratus]

Fall be like

[wide shale]

Nah, it’s a good looking map, feels weird for how flat it is but the map is also used for the lower tiers

[tall plover]

Autumn season, imo low tiers should have more open field maps though, feels like early ww2 tank battles

[scenic stratus]

Isn't the map available for top tiers as well.

[wide shale]

Yes

[scenic stratus]

Nvm I read it wrong

[gray totem]

i miss that map which has waterfall in a corner

[scenic stratus]

Mirage. Been a while

It almost feels like they won't bring it back

[gray totem]

and the temple map was so good as well

[wide shale]

Med side was always weird to me in Lost Temple

But I only played Lost Temple in bot MM unfortunately

[scenic stratus]

I have played a lot of lost temple. Always a weird map for me but allowed for so much carry potential on lights

[gray totem]

beautiful

[wide shale]

I always remembered the heavies sniping each other across the town on heavy side 💀

[wide shale]

I never liked the color combination of that map, having such a green oasis next to a bone dry desert then most surrounded by a lake ocean thing

[scenic stratus]

Minecraft biome moment

[wide shale]

Quite true

[scenic stratus]

Yep that did happen a lot. those hills and numerous entrances to the heavy flank allowed for a lot of creative ways to attack

[wide shale]

I remember playing Uprising for the first time in that map with the tier V leopard xd

[gray totem]

best spot

[marble gyro]

e5 with cupola 💀

[wide shale]

Old 183 turret model

[stone tendon]

Wow hehe that brings me back

ever seen behind the temple on the hill?

[fringe pollen]

Where is mines on castilla

[lament widget]

on the beach behind the windmill hill. its very low res though, so itll be hard to spot.

[hollow dew]

Remove Castillia

[stone tendon]

Git gud

[hollow dew]

Already

[glad violet]

i remember trying so hard to get back there, always was a treat to get behind there

[ionic hill]

Mirage when?

[elfin moth]

Man non pbr castilla needs some serious optimization too

[acoustic perch]

There is no "non pbr" castilla anymore

[elfin moth]

Bro, when u play on castilla with object and terrain quality on medium or lower, u play on a castilla which does not hav pbr....
Plus ye, it needs better optimization

[acoustic perch]

Wdym by better optimisation?

[elfin moth]

So I always encounter sever fps drops, down to 30's when playing with pbr off
When moving, near the castill, near water and all
And it srly needs to be sorted out cuz many others are facing this issue too

Optimization means that a program should run properly for most devices which make a programs lowest common denominator(lowest end device)

[torn escarp]

Classic spot to go to

[acoustic perch]

I have noticed that Castilla has improved water reflections:
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/567498405744476170/985202825862717501/unknown.png

So that could be one reason.

Also tbh a lower end device isn't enough to run the game anymore

[marble gyro]

what device are u playing on?

[hollow iris]

Remove Castilla 👍

[marble gyro]

avarage wotb players wantig to remove what they cant understand

[hollow dew]

I understand that the map isn't good, u don't?

[wide shale]

“Remove 183” I can’t cope getting hit for 1.3k every time I stand in the open
“Remove Castilla” I refuse to lower my graphics for 1 map :(
“Remove Type 71” Why so much armor pls nerfffff

[scenic stratus]

"Remove 40er" I refuse to stop relying solely on my teammates

[quaint bay]

• looks at stats * right time for a reroll

[abstract pivot]

"Remove T57" Hull armor are nerf. But turret armor are buff. Still pen at turret plz buff

[stone tendon]

remove bushes please I don’t know how to use them 👶

[elfin moth]

Ooo yaa dat culd be a reason

[vital stirrup]

hey guys, a bug just ruined my tournament because we go to battle then i see the battle screen then it says please wait and it did tp me back to the garage

[stone tendon]

Map concept - 530x530 - redo of this:#maps-discussion message

[red lake]

Tbh I really dislike how a lot of the maps make the town segments in one corner of the map where most of the time fighting never takes place

[hollow stone]

What happened to that Asian map with the creek & bridge on med side then town with circle platform

[wide shale]

Lost Temple is gone

[tall plover]

Would be cool if wg adds more historical maps, maybe something like a 1944 normandy village that takes up 80% of the map with hedgerows, small farms and some other stuff. The terrain are almost flat with very small elevation changes so players would have to rely to buildings as main cover in the map.

Im not talking about the beachfront btw (since that already exists ingame), this one is the normandy campaign after the landings.

[red lake]

There’s already like 3 maps that have stuff like that Normandy already being one

[tall plover]

Which is the one map on the three you are mentioning aside the Molendijk and Normandy? Alpenstadt?

[acoustic perch]

Also, quick solution:

Upgrade your device, or get a better device

[tall plover]

Or just lower the graphic settings, no need to spend money.

[acoustic perch]

I mean some people have bad fps on Castilla even on low settings

[glad violet]

petition for new bay removal

[stone tendon]

Its more either just a place for lights to disappear into or for TDs to set up since there is an elevation in the town. That corner is pretty hard to reach and exit so going there with a heavy tank probably wont work.

[stone tendon]

Signed, that map is terrible

[river canopy]

If they're going to add a town, they need to make the entire map urban like Himmelsdorf, or it's just going to wind up being trash

[quaint bay]

bring back mirage!!!!!

[kind violet]

yessss

Basically i found a old hard drive with Blitz on update 5.6, that means that i was able to bring back the Mirage, however only for visual showcase

Same with the Lost Temple map

[gray totem]

lost temple with pbr

[dreamy wave]

They should bring this back ASAP.😤

[elfin moth]

Ahh well
I am not playing this month cuz of exams
Plus my device is an Asus vivo book 15 2021
8gb ram, 512 gb ssd, ryzen 5 with radeon 7
It used to run castilla pbr with other stuffs maxed very well pre 9.0.1

And actually last yr u had an fps issue which when figuring out it WG turned out to be some files that they put in their update packages :V

[stone tendon]

I really liked the original lost temple

The cap was easier to deal with (still hard if enemies held the temple) and the town area was nicer imo

[hollow iris]

(Type 71 is not OP and never was) No problem with any of these, just remove Castilla. And who even said about the graphics? The map is trash, graphics have nothing do to with it. Why do you think everyone is calling it "campstilla"? Its peak terrible map design, it's a textbook example of how to not design maps in this game, yet they somehow chose this for the pbr, awful.

[wide shale]

you ping me for the type 71 sarcastic joke
then you proceeded to rant all over me about your hate on castilla ok

[small badger]

Lol

[hollow iris]

Because out of all 3 of those jokes Castilla is actually bad, it can't be stressed enough how terribly toxic and unfun this map is. It's not even that it's hard to win on it, that's not the problem, the problem is just trash gameplay and map design overall, forcing or encouraging most players to camp.

[wide shale]

I do rather like Castilla now, I know how to play on the map and I can predict enemy positions most of the time, plus with the PBR update it lookers cooler imo

[hollow iris]

As I said, winning is not the problem, I just find the playstyle to be terrible, especially since it encourages bad players to play even worse than they already do.

[acoustic perch]

Question:

Do you plug your laptop onto charge when you play?

If not, plug it in to charge while playing, it helps.

But also its recommended to run Castilla PBR on a device that has a discrete GPU with atleast 2gb VRAM

[void shale]

Hmmm

[quaint bay]

Wait that's awesome, so you have any old tanks (visually speaking) that have been removed since then? Also what about old versions of maps like oasis palms and Rockfield etc. Have you got those?

[elfin moth]

Yaa when I don't, and play with pbr off, it does drop fps
But with it being plugged in, I still face fps drops near water :V
Again pbr off

But with pbr on, it runs smoothly everywhere ..... saw the curveball there? XD

[wide shale]

Aren’t you a little short for a Sherman?

[acoustic perch]

When you plug your laptop in, your CPU/APU can then clock up to its max rated frequency because you're supplying it with more power. Hence better performance and fps.

The water on Castilla is very detailed and probably has more polygons, making it more taxing

But that laptop isn't enough for Castilla PBR

[cobalt mist]

Depends what laptop too, mine's a Dell G5 SE, with 8GB of Ram, AMD Ryzen 5 4600H with Radeon Graphics RX but yeah I think only very decent laptops could

[acoustic perch]

I run a custom-built desktop with a Ryzen 5 3600, 32gb RAM at 3600Mhz CL18 (G.Skill TridentZ Neo) and an RTX 3060Ti (MSI Gaming X), so Castilla with PBR is a walk in the park.

But only laptops with either a very powerful APU (So like Ryzen 6000) or a discrete GPU (So like a mobile GTX 1650) could run Castilla PBR well.

[cobalt mist]

What a nice flex
That’s interesting to know thanks for telling me I was wondering what kind of laptops would run Castilla PBR well

[stone tendon]

I love Castilla I don’t know what you’re talking about

[stone tendon]

alpenstadt or faust on the other hand is garbage

[gray totem]

wheres this river/canal located? i dont see it whenever playing this map

ah there it is, shame we cant reach it

[acoustic perch]

You can reach it
People have been in the river before

[gray totem]

you know what i mean.. you cant reach it while playing normally

[scenic stratus]

Very nice rig you got there

[stone tendon]

Not anymore they placed invisible walls all above the fence

[acoustic perch]

Oh, what a shame

[stone tendon]

Many such cases

[acoustic perch]

I guess thats to prevent trolls from abusing it

[red lake]

It’s only abusable if a dedicated platoon uses it to throw matches

Otherwise easy fix for wargaming to simply ban them but random things need fixing

[lament widget]

So in theory all tanks are about 3-4 tall

This picture I found must be fake then

(For reference, this is not me)

[granite ermine]

mqaaiis

[elfin moth]

Yeye

[marble gyro]

Lol

[marble gyro]

it could be meters tho

the map is Polish if im not mistaking

[lament widget]

Czech, and “ is feet

[void shale]

does metric use ' and "?

I didn't think it does

[lament widget]

I just realized the sign says 7 feet to 8 inches

[marble gyro]

well sometimes we have signs with only the number and no other things, it could be a typo

[void shale]

gotta cover our bases

[lament widget]

For real

[void shale]

make sure the ants know how much clearance they have

[lament widget]

“ and ‘ are literally the signs used for feet and inches

[marble gyro]

oh well i guess ur right, i've never seen indications in feets n inches

[fallen socket]

😂

[quaint bay]

It was just a mirage

[modest scroll]

polygon plane

[tacit kayak]

🗿

[woven kindle]

how do i turn off pbr maps

[void shale]

You can't

You can lower your graphic settings

[faint lynx]

Or turn off HD textures i think

[ancient flax]

Delete the game and just redownload without the HD textures

[dreamy wave]

Mines has got to go😒

[stone tendon]

Lock it for tier 7 and lower, the design is fine just the size is too small

[tall plover]

• Td & hulldown tank mains
  Imo it should be removed for tier VIII-X though

[quaint bay]

Mines needs to be removed drone higher tiers

I often set just supremacy so that I don’t get mines

[lament widget]

It would be funny to see copper field in t10

[elfin moth]

Xd

[faint lynx]

Do you guys know some other current maps that are restricted to lower tiers (apart from copperfield)?

no to skeriiii
proceeds to crap behind TD bush

[lament widget]

There used to be 2 more but they were removed

[fair wadi]

Dead rail sucks 👎

[brave pivot]

best for camping tds

[fringe pollen]

Too many camping mts/lts

[wooden quartz]

Faust.

[stone tendon]

git gud

[faint lynx]

To his defense, if you do not have hulldown heavies / good heavy teammates, it becomes a tricky slugfest in Dead Rail most of the time, same stuff for medium side

[lament widget]

Medium side requires depression, if you don’t have it you’re better off going thru the town to try and get behind the enemy meds, but that’s a gamble in of its own

[white swallow]

A moment of honor for poor mirage map, that got removed 😢

[quaint bay]

I actually don't mind med side, it seems usable, and I think a map with crossfire lanes etc. is actually a good thing, I don't like the heavy side much though, @lament widget not quite, there's some good sidescraping spots, and some spots you can use to artificially create depression, they are a bit situational though

[north zodiac]

worst map imo is mines or faust, they are just annoying to play

[marble gyro]

On mines u just need to take control of the hill if u are anything but a td, and that's all (you lose the hill=autolost most of the time)
Faust is all centered on A, just go there no matter what you're playing and then change strategy depending on what happens (if you're a fast tank you could also rush B and then go from the rocket silo and shoot enemy meds in the back

[kind violet]

You can nicely see it with modded free cam (In replays, it's not a hack bruh)

[leaden wave]

you used to be able to go to the river by pushing on the fences, but as per usual they added invisible walls

[modern maple]

WG esports loves to promote these ‚unintended‘ positions and WG map loves to throw as many invisible walls as possible in the way

[dreamy wave]

New map when??

[kind violet]

Personally i would prefer new maps then reworking the old ones to HD/PBR

[elfin moth]

Soon
Only 1/3 maps planned for this yr has been released sooooo map no. 2 shuld be right around the corner

[stone tendon]

Some maps need a rework, like falls creek and desert sands

[kind violet]

Yeah but they arent reworking, they are just removing maps - Mirage, Lost Temple

[quaint bay]

They should be put back to the original design lol, desert sands with that cool looking sniping spot, and falls Creek with a bridge and more hilly terrain

[tall plover]

There should be semi jungle maps for wotb, preferably themed to pacific islands during ww2. the map gives more overall concealment and gives challenge for spotting, give it enough hard cover options so it wouldnt be a td farm fest. The cap circle would be on a hut village that has a radio station.

[wide shale]

Tbh that sounds like a nice idea, but for jungle maps you need trees but WoTb doesn’t really have solid trees you can’t knock down

[tall plover]

Probably tall bamboo plants and large trees like Narra tree that cant be knocked down as obstacles. there would be palm trees, banana trees which can be run over. Tall grass areas would give totally different way of concealing tanks rather than the traditional bushes. Imagine e25 hiding on one lol

[lament widget]

The trees in the park in new bay

[wide shale]

Pretty sure thats the only exception

[quaint bay]

hello

[lament widget]

I know, I’m just saying that they do exist in the game though

[quaint bay]

Hi

[dreamy wave]

Castila needs to be optimised more. The frames drop from 60 to 35 on this map it so annoying 😒

[faint lynx]

Dont enable* HD textures I guess

[gleaming pilot]

Add Free cam for mobile pls

[solid sable]

i wonder how are you able to control free cam on mobile...

[gleaming pilot]

Maybe with a joystick

But they don't add it

[acoustic perch]

What device you using? (And what are your device's specs)

[dreamy wave]

Samsung galaxy A52

[acoustic perch]

These are the system requirements for Castilla PBR

[gray totem]

is WG working on more pbr maps?

[marble gyro]

Yes, we should have a pbr map every 2 updates

[gray totem]

is that sarcasm? I'm a pbr artist, it's not hard at all making pbr textures

[marble gyro]

well that's what they said Xd

[gray totem]

I only do it as a hobby nowadays, if its up to me i would turn every texture with pbr lol

[tall plover]

Probably got something to do with game performance, Castilla frequently gets bad feedbacks due to it "not being optimized enough" or "very laggy" since pbr model was added.
Falls creek seems to be the next map to recieve it basing from the IS-2S leak but i dont know when that would be added to the game.

[stone tendon]

They have alot on hold, they have already made a small rework of desert sands too, and have entire new map ready for release. The question is just when.

[dreamy wave]

2 new maps that is this year

[elfin moth]

Desert sands rework will come in 9.3
New map 9.4 or.5

[orchid minnow]

Pog

[quaint bay]

Bruh my phone is sensitive they won't handle these high HD maps

[humble anvil]

Proof?

[hollow stone]

Also what ever happened to those maps

[marble gyro]

they got removed cuz they needed map balance rework, even tho they've been away from the game for almost 2y now

[dull urchin]

Playing mediums like progetto46 i've gotten Castilla 44 times in 2 months. Nearest high visit map is Faust at 20. With heavies Castilla still top visit map but others closer behind.

[dreamy wave]

Where did u get this info bruh🤔

[marble gyro]

they just made it in hd, so it's reasonable they slightly increased the chance of players it; such large disparity is due to the fact that 30d aren't a long enough period of time imo

[dull urchin]

about 60 days. I keep personal score to see heavy vs medium map success/fail

[elfin moth]

9.3 desert sands rework was confirmed by testik, awesome amd blitz bogar
9.4/.5 new map is my estimate cuz 1/3rd of the yr- 1 new map therefore 3 new maps in a yr

[humble anvil]

Haha Testik? Nah, they don’t know anything. No set release date for the Desert Sands rework until we find it in the files for an upcoming update.

Alright, I guess your estimate for new map isn’t wrong or right but I wouldn’t say it as guaranteed until WG says something themselves.

[river canopy]

Just want to put out a quick PSA. Do NOT sit in this corner. Your future teammates will thank you

[tall plover]

Campstilla moment

[marble gyro]

more like, don't go c at all in early game

[leaden wave]

true, unless you want to get farmed by spawn sniping tds and the meds at the church

[stoic field]

My strat for Castilla is to have some heavy’s go heavy side and some go castle with meds. That way the Heavys on heavy side can spot up other heavy and the meds can snipe the heavy or fight the other meds with the heavy at med side

[marble gyro]

The whole point in Castilla is to crush the med side with whoever is there; C part of the map is completly usless, you just get sniped from every direction providing minimal if not none spotting advantage to your team

[stoic field]

But if your team dosnt push med side quick enough your entire team is stuck there while the enemy heavy’s can farm ur team

[marble gyro]

it's a race for the med side, as in mines for the hill
That's all, if you're in any other part of the map and the enemys take the curch you're done

[stoic field]

Well everytime my entire team went church side we got farmed by enemy heavy’s and tds

[quaint bay]

BTW would it be possible for wg to restore all the old maps that have been removed/reworked for an update? As an event type thing, older players would find it nostalgic and newer players really interesting, idk if it could be a game mode or something (probably make the game ridiculously large) just one of those silly ideas that everyone has that probably isn't even possible let alone probable that it will happen, I thought the idea was kind of neat though

[stoic field]

Like adding in mirage and the other Chinese themed map back in just in a game mode?

[stone tendon]

If you don’t hold C your TDs are completely open to being flanked and picked off

[marble gyro]

tds should push toghether w the team ofc, sniping isnt really viable except in early game

[stone tendon]

For map control holding your spawn TD positions, atleast in pubs is pretty important. in my experiance.

[marble gyro]

If you rush and win the med side it's autowin.
Any other strat may be effective yes, but not nearly as effective as just full rushing the church

[quaint bay]

Yeah, basically restoring blitz to V 1.0 maps wise, but adding in any new maps that have been added, but the original version of all maps

[stoic field]

So like old rock field, and old copperfield

[quaint bay]

Yep, old oasis palms (there's like three of them lol), old mines, old desert sands (with that amazing camping hill lol), old dead rail, and some others I've forgotten i think, a lot of them have been reworked more than once

Oh and the old falls Creek which was very different on med side at least, old Middleburg

[leaden wave]

its possible to see those old maps by modding them in by replacing another map, the terrain wouldnt be the same but eh its something

[quaint bay]

Huh? How is that possible? You mean just to look at, you can’t play on them unless everyone else did too

[leaden wave]

you can play on it, but the surface hitboxes would still be of that of the replaced map

like for example if you modded molendijk to the old rockfield, itll look like the old rockfield but the surface is still molendijk

[quaint bay]

Yeah, but I didn’t know it would be possible to have in reality a new map but drive across an old one, surely surfaces will show that aren’t there

I guess it’s similar to a tank skin, seems hard to understand how it would work though

[leaden wave]

a guy driving on old middleburg, see how the tank isnt level on the ground because the surface is that of the new map

[quaint bay]

For instance the td sniping spot on old desert sands, if you modded the new desert sands to add that you couldn’t use it to snipe, the actual map doesn’t have the range to let you fire from it, your shots would hit buildings, cause in reality you’re driving across flat ground even though it looks like you’re going up a hill

[leaden wave]

yeah pretty much that, youd either clip into old hills or climb on to an invisible hill

[quaint bay]

Ah thanks, that tells me what I was asking, so it doesn’t really work out gameplay wise

[leaden wave]

no problem

[stone tendon]

That’s just because the old map is being displayed locally but the actual current map is being used server side

[quaint bay]

Enjoying Castilla only because sniping spots 🥱

[fallen socket]

soon

[faint patio]

Soon™️

[quaint bay]

Berlin and Stalingard Map when

[tall plover]

Himmelsdorf are sort of close to the bombed out city of Berlin on the near end of war, the WoT PC Himmelsdorf includes two buildings that can be found at Berlin irl.
Would like to have another map like it though but on spring theme, preferably themed to 1945 Cologne, Germany

If it has to be something "new" then a ww2 pacific theatre themed map would be nice imo.

[quaint bay]

Himmelsdorf needs the Bradenburg Gate. It's the way to make it cool

Second, where is the Reich Building?

Luzon could be a good map :)
But it will be an Asian version of Normandy eh

[tall plover]

Maybe add that as a seperate map called Berlin since Himmelsdorf are fictional place mixed from various real cities.

[tall plover]

Yep, maybe that or something like on Iwo Jima

Image below:
M4A3 "Classy Peg" of Company C, 716th Tank Battalion, drives by a destroyed Chi-Ha-Kai, Luzon, 1945.

[quaint bay]

" Chi-ha-kai " ? Is that a variant of Chi-Ha medium tank?

[tall plover]

Yes its an improved version of the chi-ha, similar to the ingame Chi-nu & Chi-nu-kai (Shinobi)

[quaint bay]

I was thinking, would Tunisia 🇹🇳 be a good map?

[tall plover]

Maybe but it would be mostly open desert.

[quaint bay]

No hiding spots for any annoying tanks like LTTB and SU-152 🥳

[stone tendon]

If its in the south yea but the north of tunisia is pretty mountainous and has vegetation

[hollow stone]

Su152 ain’t annoying it’s just scary

[ancient flax]

why would lttb need to hide? its got the armor to bounce stuff and the speed to dodge stuff

[quaint bay]

Annoying for me lol

[quaint bay]

The lttb can't even dodge my slow AT Tank ammo lol

[hollow stone]

It ain’t got no armor

[wide shale]

Yes the LTTB has trolly armor that can cause bounces

[gleaming pilot]

Maybe add Berlin (it might be great for ww2 references)

[stone tendon]

I don’t think we need another carpet-bombed city map

[hollow iris]

I'm sick of not being able to play at max graphic settings because of one stupid map (which is also the worst map in the game and should be removed permamently).

Normally, I can play the game at highest setting in stable 60fps, but on Castilla it drops drastically. Because of literally one map I have to play on medium settings. It doesn't even look that good, it's supposed to be HD but still looks like it was made 10 years ago, it's simply not worth over the performance.

[wide shale]

imo dead rail would be worse then castilla

[acoustic perch]

I mean PBR castila has its own set of hardware requirements.

[dreamy wave]

Same here mate they have got to optimise that map more

[atomic folio]

Mine and castilla are connected

[wide shale]

yeah

[orchid minnow]

real

[obtuse verge]

well if you go to mines there is a secret pole that points to castilla. but i dont think you will ever read it because everyone will knock it down

[stone tendon]

Because somehow Spain and Poland are right next to each other

[wide shale]

the world according to WG

[lament widget]

Look at the sign in the cap circle of mines

[wooden quartz]

How dare you to use logic on wotb?

[hazy pecan]

add dead rail somewhere and you get the trifecta of terror

[wide shale]

Pretty sure the map Hellas is also connected somewhere, at least I think that is the map name

[hazy pecan]

greek, poland, and spain

jeohlahgee

[gleaming pilot]

Mines,castilia,middlerburg and vineyards are connected

[wide shale]

Middleburg? Haven’t heard that one before

[elfin moth]

@atomic folio and @gleaming pilot , look at that pic

That I hav replied to

[atomic folio]

Ok

[verbal hedge]

I don't think mines are in Poland

[stone tendon]

it’s file name is rudniki

[verbal hedge]

You are right there is a place where there is a hill from the mine on middle od the village

[wooden quartz]

I go city in middleburg. They say "Go hill". I went hill. Team retreated to city. I had a 4 vs 1 and managed to kill one of them 👍

E100 is simply immortal

[verbal hedge]

they could also be inspired by this location but they gave it to another country

[wraith rain]

I have no idea where tf you found vineyards but here's Castilla, Mines and Middleburg

[wide shale]

I honestly thought the first picture was all mines because it also has the same lighthouse placement along with the ship

[lament widget]

Yeah that’s not middleburg

@wraith rain there’s a sign in mines in the cap circle that says Castilla and Vineyards

[left comet]

yeah this one in particular

[fringe pollen]

When will that dog stop barking in ghost factory

[lament widget]

When wargaming adds artillery

[quaint bay]

Yep, the part circled as mines is merely the right hand side of the map, where base cap is, and the hill is included of course

[autumn needle]

Why is it so hard for people to play on Castilla, use what's left of your brain for once, gods

[river canopy]

Because Castilla is a stupid map. You can't do anything to make anything happen. All you can do is wait for the enemy to make mistakes

[quaint bay]

https://tenor.com/view/think-smart-gif-22411928 or make the mistakes yourself

[somber sigil]

or u blind shot the meds on the church🤡

[quaint bay]

Or they blind shot the heavies on the hill....or the they blind shot the tds in spawn lol

https://tenor.com/view/theres-so-many-delicious-choices-theres-so-many-tasty-choices-theres-so-many-delicious-options-i-cant-decide-too-many-options-gif-17067192

[wide shale]

Just shoot somewhere

[quaint bay]

Ah yes, thats why people randomly shoot just after starting the game, hoping for the odd glitch that will let the shell pass through mountains to get into the enemy spawn

[elfin moth]

😂 no mate, that middleburg part is not there on castilla
There is a lighthouse and a ship on mines island.... and that's what's depicted there on castilla

[red matrix]

Interesting...
Should not be able to get there but ok (you need pushing assistance at the start, rest is just the tank alone)

[gray totem]

bout to change every other texture>>first stop the sky

[gray totem]

nostalgia 🌉

[stone tendon]

I still consider that map new :PP

Oh yea now thats nostalgia

I remember drowing a kv1 in that river with my tiger

[wide shale]

Never knew how to play that map since I was still sub 5k battles when it removed

[lament widget]

I know river side usually went into chaos after the first few shots

[wide shale]

I couldn’t figure out where to go river side

[stoic field]

I miss that map

[arctic ivy]

Me gusta el mapa se ve bien bonito y bien bueno para estrategias

[wraith rain]

But I don't miss Mirage I didn't rly enjoy the map I remember peeking with a hellcat and every time there is a KV-2 or a SU-152

[ocean haven]

I think it's very beautiful map
Idk why WG "delete" it from the game
I want it to come back

[sturdy dagger]

it would be awsome if WG would add a beach map bc its still summer

[somber sigil]

what does it mean?

[acoustic perch]

Death, lots of it

[river canopy]

Basically, game data is sent between your device and the server in “packets”. A packet might include data such as the inputs from your joystick, server-side enemy positions information, etc…

That % Loss indicates how many of those data packets are being lost. Packet loss will result in things like choppy gameplay and non-responsive controls

[somber sigil]

oh💀

[fallow iron]

😭

[void shale]

I have recurring nightmares of getting slapped by a Hetzer with 105 in my SU-85B

[wraith rain]

its so nostalgic seeing lost temple because my greatest memory of the map was me getting 3.2k dmg in a kv-13 it was the first ever tier 7 I got sad they removed it from tech tree

[somber sigil]

looks op

[river canopy]

KV-13 is still in the game. It’s just that no one plays it cuz it’s kinda garbage

[somber sigil]

😔

[jaunty lake]

what happened to the Mirage map and why is it unavailable?

[quaint bay]

There should be a map with a duststorm, or lighting and rain, or a night map. But you can see the dust, but other people to

[lament widget]

Wasteland has a sandstorm

[quaint bay]

Rip i must have bad graphics @lament widget

[lament widget]

It starts after a couple minutes of the round starting

[quaint bay]

Huh never noticed

[stone tendon]

They tested such a thing but never fully implemented it

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PQ6BdAjRYFY

[quaint bay]

Yea bac graphics for me

[stone tendon]

man... alpenstadt is garbage

[pallid oar]

They removed it over a year ago alongside Lost Temple for reworks.
Wargaming indicated they want to make the maps accessible in high tiers, as well as make Supremacy an option for Mirage.

[jaunty lake]

Thanks 🙂

[quaint bay]

Oh I didn’t know Mirage was encounter only; I wonder if they will remake mines and/or copper field some day with supremacy. Btw Mirage was in higher tiers at first wasn’t it, like copperfield, or not?

[left comet]

mines is pretty small for a supremacy map ngl, also copperfield already has supremacy, don't it?

[quaint bay]

Copperfield hasn't got supremacy, well unless I remember wrongly cause I don't play lower tiers much, and yes mines is pretty small but you could have one on the island side and on cap base side, and have them asymmetrical so each team gets one, then have a third contested one in the little spot between the rock and the hill where everyone dies 😈 (it would probably need a rework, possibly a cap on the hill with the map like the original version with easier access to the hill might work)

[left comet]

Sounds chaotic, I'm in dawg

[quaint bay]

Lol yeah don't know that it's a good idea

[scenic stratus]

Copperfield does have supremacy. One on top in the heavy lane(A cap), one in the warehouse (B cap) and one on the med flank (C cap)

[elfin moth]

Yup that remained in closed test
Plus that was for testing PBR models, for snow settles, dust, sand and water

[stoic field]

So can someone explain why the 2 maps were removed (mirage and the other Chinese themed map I keep forgetting the name of) and when (if they are at all) will come back into the game

[tall plover]

Mirage and Lost Temple was removed the same time as mines for a rework, no one but wg knows when they would be added back

[quaint bay]

Oh ok my mistake, I should play more of the lower tiers 💀

[quaint bay]

Wait so mines only got reworked recently? Or did it have two reworks

[tall plover]

Two, the second one was last year, now you can see a sawmill on the hill and planes flying over

[lament widget]

And the original rework was like 7 years ago

[leaden wave]

in the old mines you could get up the hill without going through the main entrance from one of the spawns lmao

[quaint bay]

Ah ok thanks, yeah I was thinking what kaypeezee said, but was surprised it only changed last year, makes sense it sounds like it was purely a cosmetic rework

[stone tendon]

yeh I remember doing that in my T2 light hehe

from south spawn it was possible

[leaden wave]

i remember doing it in my uc-2
good times

[pallid oar]

@stoic field you can refer to this for the why.
For the when, only Wargaming knows. I believe they will eventually come back, I think they may have focused on other projects and sidelined those maps which is why they have been gone for so long. Or maybe their plans changed. It’s a guess really

[stoic field]

Ok thanks 🙂

[dreamy wave]

🤔

[river canopy]

@dreamy wave those top 2 screenshots are of an early Ghost Factory prototype

[dreamy wave]

Ohh really

[jagged panther]

WG said they would rework mirage and lost temple. Why havent they brung it back yet? :(

[elfin moth]

Yup

[twin panther]

do you also have that glitch in middleburg where the tracks glitch

[stone tendon]

Final image is wotblitz version of Pearl river

[dreamy wave]

You even know it's name😐

[stone tendon]

Its a map in PC WoT, and a pretty old one too

Like Mines, they are making a blitz version of it

[fringe pollen]

When will wg let me play mines in my t54e2

And why wg keep forcing me to play mines when I have weak turret armor tank

[stone tendon]

you’re not allowed to enjoy this game, read the terms and conditions

[lament widget]

Tfw ghost ping

[acoustic perch]

No

You need to pay to enjoy the game.

You need to pay in order to not get mines each time

[wide shale]

Plays supremacy only:

[stone tendon]

Pbr middleburg? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jnmwubi_6Qk

i dont understand anything hes saying but the buildings look alot more detailed, so maybe it isnt fake

[dreamy wave]

Looks pretty clean though

[scenic stratus]

If it is indeed true, I don't understand why they would choose Middleburg next.

[leaden wave]

isnt desert sands is the next pbr map? also the reflections on those cars seem a bit off

[wide shale]

WG choosing the worst maps to do PBR on:

[stone tendon]

Yea honestly I wish they would just remove that map, or atleast just keep it for tier 4.

[stone tendon]

Ye I’ve seen that it’s in the works too

https://youtu.be/usskmLqp9TM

[lament widget]

I remember seeing somewhere in like December/January that himmelsdorf might be getting the castle area, if that does happen maybe it would come with a pbr revamp? Just a thought

[quaint bay]

Where is this map ? 😕

[wide shale]

poof gone, dissipated into atoms

[quaint bay]

😦 yes

[ocean haven]

WG delete it
Heart breaking me
I love that map

[chrome burrow]

Are all maps same size, or is there an actual “biggest” map?

[scenic stratus]

Officially they keep claiming that all maps are of the same size, atleast they did. But they clearly are not, look at Copperfield then Normandy or Yukon.

This just speaks of dimensions. Maps differ in playable area too. Mines that has like a third of the map unplayable (out of bounds) vs something like Middleburg which has far more area that is playable

[stone tendon]

That would be really cool, no more csgo style gameplay for that map.

[stone tendon]

You can look at the dimensions of each map on mapinspector, they’re all different.

[lament widget]

I just hope that if they do add the castle area, they add a few places you can jump off onto people

[stone tendon]

The reason they never originally added it is because they stated it causes “gameplay issues”

Maybe they found a way to rule out those issues

[paper plover]

theres a light house and a warship in castilla too, i think thats just the whole map of castilla

[quaint bay]

What’s the “castle area” on himmelsdorf? You mean make all the surrounding destroyed buildings accessible?

[verbal hedge]

does not look like a pbr map

[stone tendon]

On WoT PC, the east of the map has a castle on a hill. This section of the map was added on the blitz version but the map dimensions where changed and the castle was cut off because of “gameplay issues”. It gave himmelsdorf a rectangular dimension of 442x516

[quaint bay]

Ah ok thanks 👍

[dreamy wave]

Do you play wot pc???You seem to know alot of info about their maps

[chrome burrow]

Thanks

[stone tendon]

Used to play it alot maybe 7 years ago but nowadays its not so great

[lament widget]

Correct me if I’m wrong, but I’m reading this as the castle area was once accessible in blitz

[stone tendon]

only in testing, it was never released with the castle area open.

[lament widget]

Ah, alright. I was going to say, I’ve only been playing since ‘16, but I don’t remember any mention of that being a thing

[stone tendon]

You can go into free cam mode and see that they did actually work on making the castle area

[bitter hinge]

Hello
Anyone want to play Maus vs kv2?

[stray matrix]

anything to do with maps?

[bitter hinge]

oo sorry

[meager garden]

I do hope they expand to the castle area, but of course map size is an issue for mobile yet if we look at the size of canal, expanding to make the castle area part of the map may not be much of a stretch if done carefully. #maps-discussion

[meager garden]

They removed Mirage, this is sad, even though it was small it was still beautiful, I hope they don't wreck it as it's colour pallet was vibrant and captured the scene quite vividly. I did hear they may be reworking it but I hope the rework is just an expansion of this particular environment and not a rework of how it functions terrain wise. It just needs to be a bit larger. #maps-discussion

[meager garden]

I hope not, I think and know the colour pallet for Middleburg currently is great. I don't think it should be changed yet again after its first iteration. #maps-discussion

[meager garden]

I feel the same on this one, I loved Lost Temple with it's ambience and it's scene. It was actually big enough for tier 10's I don't see where people got the idea it wasn't but it was brilliant. I'd be very happy to see either the first version of this map, or this version reinstated how it was in these images, maybe just a slight expansion of this current version for additional size of the area. You do not have to rework an entire map if it needs slight refinements. #maps-discussion

[meager garden]

I hope this isn't the Lost Temple redesign, this deserves to be a new map entirely. Please let it not be Lost Temple. #maps-discussion

[meager garden]

I agree, this would be a brilliant expansion of Dynasty's Pearl. It would give the map another layer of gameplay diversity, consequentially making it more interesting to play on, they would have to add some bridges & a land mass to join the rivulet effectively or some other sensibly creative idea with the rest of the map though. This map is nice, except I really don't like playing on it as it's way to restrictively small for the environment it's set in. iv'e noticed a pattern to this with the recent map implementations. More maps with diversity similar if not better than Canal would be appreciated. #maps-discussion

[meager garden]

I have one additional suggestion directly to the WG Map Developers, Please reinstate the burnt top bushes to Black Goldville as this is extremely realistic due to the climate and setting of this map. The current bushes that are visible should only be in areas with less direct or no direct sunlight. Also, there should be less of them as this is the only time they will not be burnt by such climate situations. #maps-discussion

[meager garden]

Suggestion For Map - Vineyards Please consider bringing back the Dusk version of this map alongside the current daytime version, this can add to the map-pool additionally, allowing two different time situations for the map in-game, if this is not possible, i'd suggest the dusk version be fully reinstated as this was a good ambience and suited the map and map location extremely well. #maps-discussion

[acoustic perch]

People have modded that in, as well as evening rockfield

[sand venture]

We need more map

[stone tendon]

We need to remove some maps, like dynastys pearl

middleburg should be accessible only for tier 4 and lower, I find it pretty fun there since you don’t just get stuck in a stale mate at the hill

[lament widget]

It’s kinda like that old map on pc where it just descended into chaos

In low tiers I mean

[wide shale]

Descended into chaos in Middleburg 😂

[dreamy wave]

Any map news for update 9.3???

[cunning nimbus]

Even though today WG open the test sever, they just keep the secret to the end :/

[stone tendon]

Sadly nope

[cunning nimbus]

Is this a mistake from WG? Said that there would be a PBR map each 2 updates...

[stone tendon]

Yea I remember them saying that, so I was expecting to see such a thing.

[left parrot]

maybe it will come out later? Like not be on the test but in the update itself if they're not done with it yet

[cunning nimbus]

My guess is that they need putting effort to implement new things, events, tanks currently cuz the 9.3. As well new map designs and PBR maps reworked. Tons of work months after months...

[dreamy wave]

Well that was unexpected. I thought was getting a new map. They said 3 new maps this year

[stone tendon]

I think the Castilla pbr might have counted

[twilit moth]

Castilla should be removed

To team dependent

[agile pewter]

Or just play better??

[lament widget]

minor spelling error

[stone tendon]

Eh i find it to be a nice map

[fallow iron]

The map can be very slow paced

[hollow bluff]

What's your most hated map? For me it's Hellas I just don't like the map

[ionic bone]

I want lost temple back, I liked it

[scenic stratus]

Either Middleburg or dynasty's. Used to hate campstilla, don't like it even now but I don't hate it anymore

[tall plover]

Same as Jedi, Canal as 3rd

[honest current]

@hollow bluff hellas or oasis palms. nothing good ever happens on oasis palms

[stone tendon]

Dynasty's pearl, Alpenstadt and middleburg

[dreamy wave]

Middleburg and mines need to go😤

[lament widget]

This is gonna be controversial but I despise black goldville

[knotty quartz]

Fifty50#0472 was banned

[stone tendon]

Yea understandable

it’s not too bad in public matches but in ratings I remember it being terrible

I preferred the old version so much more, I really hate how flat they made the whole map

[lunar pulsar]

My most despised map is probably dead rail. Disgusting campfest where you can't make one move without being rained on with prammo

[hollow stone]

Maybe Himmelsdorf because it’s too open

[elfin moth]

Hmmm

[stone tendon]

Yea ive never liked that map

Its like playing csgo but with tanks

[fallow iron]

Same, I dislike Castilla too, all the games are way too slow paced or just easily won by one of the teams just because one has better meds than the other.

And new bay can be annoying too, since one spawn has a clear advantage on the heavy side than the other

[lament widget]

I actually only hate dynasties pearl when in a glass cannon, otherwise I’m fine

[unborn ingot]

I don't like Castillia on heavy... But it still playable

[dreamy wave]

Worst unbalanced map is middleburg !!!!!End of discussion...😤

[quaint bay]

What exactly do you mean by unbalanced? 🤨 It's pretty much the same for both sides, like the majority of wotb maps

[stone tendon]

South side of the hill is more elevated than the north side @quaint bay

[quaint bay]

Right, still not a major difference

[cunning nimbus]

Many maps which i hate, namely Castilla, Hellas, Dead Rails, Mines, Canal, Black Goldville, Port Bay, Oasis Palms, Rock Field, etc.

The unbalanced terrain is noticeable

[stone tendon]

If you hate half the maps I think it’s more of a skill issue

[cunning nimbus]

That happens to me when i raged and slapped my phone, mostly the teammates affect the battle seemingly the situation i hold a line and the team just at the back camping, yolo or failure moves let them dies so damn quick (2 years experience with some stressed)

[left comet]

anger issues moment

[cunning nimbus]

English only pls

[simple torrent]

When are you going to fix the PC Bug with wrong map files?
Its ridiculous.
Few maps are not working at all

[stone tendon]

probably you should reinstall the game :PP

[meager garden]

Terrain in reality is not always balanced. It’s good to have a mixture of balanced and “unbalanced”. Otherwise every map will be the same both sides. Some places are definitely symmetrical but it should only be symmetrical or unsymmetrical if the particular battlefield location requires it.

[meager garden]

No

[meager garden]

It is a nice map, when it didn’t look dull.

[stone tendon]

Yea I don’t like the new colour scheme either

[lament widget]

How does this pertain to maps

[hollow stone]

He just spams it in about every channel

[lament widget]

Ah

[faint patio]

the best map though, most definitely for I, is the wasteland

i got my first tier 6,7 and 8 on battles on that map, each time. the first ever game of mad games in the scavenger will be forever ingrained, the perfect tank on the perfect map, 👌

i am a connoisseur for that map, it is scrumptious

[quaint bay]

That’s cool, unfortunately I don’t see it enough, I will say there’s an epic spot that controls multiple routes, and is hull down able with 5 degrees, epic game in the t 34 2 lol

[shy crest]

Canal has a very unbalanced mt side. The mts at the green dot can spit the enemies crossing the red square while there's no bush on red square. Please add a bush here(red square)WG

[buoyant frost]

It's legit an excellent hulldown spot... why would they add a bush if it's a strong holding position

[shy crest]

The green spot is hulldown too......? It's just so stupid when you are say a batchat, Sheridan or leopard. You don't have any other choice except crossing and while crossing you get spotted

[quaint bay]

I would only cross if you're faster than all your enemies, imo crossing isn't necessary always, although I do enjoy that bush I don't find it particularly annoying when facing it, easy to blind shot even if you felt like it.
The hull down spot is actually a lot better where the red square is, the bush side can't be used nearly as effectively due to the ground layout.

[buoyant frost]

No the red square

[elfin moth]

Imo
The bush is there to help lights spot and not be detected
Plus huldown helps them get a few bounces on their gun mantelet

[shy crest]

What I'm saying is,if you are at the green spot in a paper tank you can just sit in the bush till the enemy crosses over but in the red square there is no scope for light armored tanks. They can either cross(and get spotted) or wait for the hull down( armored) team-mates to spot(yeah,like that's possible nowadays)

[modern maple]

This is the counter position. You also sit hulldown, also use most or all of your gundepression and also have bush camo

(These are pine trees which is why they cover you all the way to the bottom)

[quaint bay]

I don't think they count as cover, there's a large clear gap you can see through, if you pushed it over it would make good cover

[modern maple]

If you don‘t take my word for it go ahead and try it out. I only know theory and I might be wrong

[quaint bay]

Right, well I’ve never tried it so I’ll have to test it, it’s not that I don’t trust you I’ve just never heard of it, but lots of things I’ve still got to learn : D

[worn eagle]

Delete ghost factory

[raw glade]

think we'll get Lost Temple back soon? I kinda miss it

[rain frost]

English is the only chat language that is allowed on this server.
And your battle results screen does not relate to maps.
@solid maple

[stoic field]

Isn’t wg making a WoT pc sized map for some kind of mode like Fromtline? Or is this false?

[elfin moth]

According to a 2021 leak by CMM
Wg is working on a pbr map(s) of 1000x1000 for a special mode in which we would have access to wheeled vehicals

[lament widget]

Maybe something for Christmas/New Years if I had to guess

[stone tendon]

I dunno, I think they are more interested in putting useless features in the game :||

[quaint bay]

The map sounds cool, but I hope they won't put wheeled vehicles 😬

[dreamy wave]

What.??💀

[dreamy wave]

Would be very interesting

[elfin moth]

Wheeled vehicles mode on big maps wuld actually fun, like gravity or uprising uk

[quaint bay]

I guess it would be ok in a fun mode, hate the very idea of seeing them in normal matches though, this is a tank game lol (I actually hate the idea more than arty, and that's something a lot of the playerbase detest)

[wide shale]

yes, imagine half the German tanks just falling like a house and landing gracefully

[austere lark]

Seems like a short lived game mode

[stoic field]

oh no. Wheeled vehicles

That oh no is for anyone I’m playing against as I have been anticipating something that would incorporate wheeled vehicles and I have been researching how to play fast tanks and I am good at trolling in fast tanks. Can’t wait for them >:)

[hollow stone]

Ribble said wheeled tanks would not be introduced

[elfin moth]

Yea, not in random or ratings
Wheeled MAY be introduced in a special game mode with larger maps as wg had started working on it

Imo it would be fun as it will be a special game mode⚡

[ornate sand]

Add Berlin Map

[stone tendon]

on PC that map is terrible

[dreamy wave]

Why does wargaming take long to make new maps??

[wide shale]

Other priorities

[red lake]

It’s already almost the end of this year and unless you have a date when they said or this was leaked last year it’s been over a year and if not a new leak has come out this rumor project is dead then

Which is also strange considering Castilla was target for the first PBR map and it honestly was a pretty mediocre do over especially taking fact in mind wargaming have stated they will continue to cater to low performance device players and have no plans for wheels

[hollow stone]

Such as "ranks"

[elfin moth]

1stly, PBR castilla is a homage to WoT getting its 1st ever HD map, Abbey, in 1.0
Hence Castilla was chosen to get it

2ndly just join CMM on vk or telegram, or join Blitz Hub(imo its better)

3rdly, no the project is not dead

[faint lynx]

That sums up the entire R35 Himmelsdorf glitch

[quaint bay]

@strange haven ( don‘t mind ping )

[noble idol]

Like this?

[short bronze]

the Russians made plans for a flying tank to be brought in by plane, but they scrapped the idea do to a fuel problem, I think.

[knotty quartz]

Vlad.#2788 has been warned.

[halcyon wren]

also it just doesnt make sense

why waste so much just to get a light tank into battle

plus it had to ditch the ammo to fly

[stoic field]

Lol. I can imagine the enemy seeing a some kind of flying thing and the enemy shooting it down cuz Its heavy and slow or the crew upon landing just get captured cuz the tank has no ammunition to defend itself XD

[halcyon wren]

like one well placed AA shell brings down the whole thing

[wide shale]

didn't the US try to do something like that with the M22 Locust?

[stoic field]

Air deployable isn’t the same as a flying tonk XD

[wide shale]

why would you need a flying tank when you could just drop a thousand bombs from so high up nothing else can touch you

I'm pretty sure in an air fight anyway mobility is better then tanking hits

[stoic field]

True

[quaint bay]

I think the purpose was to give heavier firepower support for paratroopers, you can't away maintain air presence, plus the tank is always cheaper

[void shale]

You are thinking of the M56 Scorpion

Minimal protection for the crews but it could be air dropped and it had a 90mm gun which was capable of good fire power for where it needed to be

The fact it's not in Blitz yet is very surprising

It's been in PC and console for ages

The M22 had a similar but less useful concept

Instead of being airdropped it was Sent in on basically a glider that had to be released from a plane

[quaint bay]

I think WG is holding it for a Steyr style event

[short bronze]

They should put the new moon maps in training rooms

[wide shale]

Ah I see, also wanted to check, was the Sheridan able to be airdropped in any way?

[short bronze]

Don't think so

[nocturne mortar]

https://youtu.be/50cpPAVoxJQ
Yup here it is in action

[short bronze]

Oh, wow

[wide shale]

Pretty cool

[stoic field]

M56 Scorpion was also an air deployable Td. Was hated by its crews. The M50 Ontos was also an air depoyable td but only the Marines (for obvious reasons which are the Marines being well…Marines) requested them

Anyways can’t wait for the 1000by1000 map event

[gray totem]

what is this thing? map is rockfield

[wide shale]

I noticed that before, was told it was just a easter egg
Like the Sturmtiger behind the doors

[gray totem]

Weird it only shows up when you aim at it. I thought something was gonna come out

[tall plover]

Afaik thats a LoTR (Lord of The Rings) easter egg, theres also a wand and a ring somewhere in the map.

[hazy pecan]

lord of the rings :)

go read the books bro

[gray totem]

I don't like reading 😥

[hazy pecan]

watch the movies then

[gray totem]

I don't watch old movies

[agile pewter]

the movies aren't old lol

at least not that old

[gray totem]

some of us werent even born yet

[agile pewter]

Doesn't mean it's an old movie though

[short bronze]

What do you mean Lord of The Rings, I'm very familiar with the series, (I own the Hobbit and The Lord of The Rings movies and books).

[short bronze]

I am hurt, I am very much hurt.

[hazy pecan]

bro the books and movies are revolutionary and like toptier for eternity 💀

[short bronze]

agreed

[left parrot]

Am I alone in thinking WG stopped adding Easter eggs to maps? Like the maps added after Mayan Ruins (I think there was a tog hidden somewhere around the waterfall) don’t seem to have any Easter eggs

[meager garden]

Notice something else in this image?

[stone tendon]

ghost factory has the ship that blocked the suez canal

[left parrot]

Any found on Hellas or Molendjik? (Maaaybe you can classify the airship as one but it’s obvious)

[leaden wave]

hellas has a huge thor easter egg and i think some other ones that i forgot, as for molendijk, no clue

[stone tendon]

Molendijk doesn’t have any

[patent topaz]

on hellas there is a Greek ship + a volleyball from a movie

[gray totem]

you made me do this

Imma watch it all tonight better be good lol

[lament widget]

Wow

@gray totem those things are long so good luck

[short bronze]

good luck

[dreamy wave]

We need more maps for God's sake 😭

[void shale]

We have over 30 different maps

And 2 of them are in Limbo right now

[stone tendon]

The problem is the game play of all the maps is really similar

with a few exceptions like castilla and himmelsdorf

[stone tendon]

and vineyards

[dreamy wave]

Over 30 maps ?????🤨

[void shale]

With Lost Temple and The other desert one I'm forgetting the name of 31

[dreamy wave]

We still need more wot pc has like 50 I just checked right now.

How can we be having one map every year. It's ludicrous.Devs should work hard in making more

[void shale]

This is a mobile game

The fact there are over 500 tanks in the game is already impressive

As for the maps

It's not as easy to make a map in this game as you'd think

Even porting the maps

The battle format is different

[wide shale]

a bunch of maps were listed in #important-about-tourneys

[lament widget]

For at least as long as I remember, there have been 2 maps at least coming each year.
And with wot having more maps, well believe it or not, it has been a game for longer than blitz has

And there are probably more people working on wot than blitz

[left comet]

I do not understand anything but that last word

[elfin moth]

https://80.lv/articles/setting-up-graphical-improvements-in-world-of-tanks-blitz/

Hi all, found this super interesting article on pbr castilla, a developer interview. It's super in depth

But I highly recommend reading thr conclusion!!!
Global illumination is in the works!!!!!👀⚡

[potent shore]

cool article

[left comet]

That is indeed, a cool lookin article

[hollow stone]

Agreed

[quaint bay]

Hmm Graphical improvement, I wonder if it change the game

[cunning nimbus]

Imagine wotb ray tracing ultrahd 4k, 120fps

[acoustic perch]

Might be possible to mod RTX into WoTB using RTX Remix (when it comes out)
https://www.nvidia.com/en-au/geforce/news/rtx-remix-announcement/

[dreamy wave]

Give it 5-10 years 🙂

[river canopy]

@cunning nimbus You can use reshade to give it pseudo-ray tracing and sharpen up the picture quality. Here’s an example of what my Blitz looks like

[dreamy wave]

Looks clean af bro

[trim osprey]

120 fps is smooth af

[cunning nimbus]

Seems to be dope, crappy devices would cry...

[dreamy wave]

Mirage

Take them with a pinch of salt though

[modern maple]

That looks nothing like the old mirage

If that is actually the „rework“ then Mirage is truly gone forever

[zinc trout]

That’s a new map, the teased it ages ago

[lament widget]

If I had to guess “rework” means keeping the general locale the same but making gameplay different

[modern maple]

Yeah, I remembered the shape but I wouldn‘t rule out that they replaced Mirage with it

[stoic field]

There is one of those big planes that flies at the beginning of the battle on dead rail (I forgot the name it’s like BV- something or ME-something) so maybe that plane crashed there? WoT lore confirmed?

[quaint bay]

Any info on Lost Temple?

[zealous fiber]

It has quite nothing in common with mirage except general visual tone.
And I’ve seen screenshots of this map since ages

[red lake]

It’s an old Wip map should also give wg some credit they wouldn’t undo mirages theme

[shy crest]

Looks like a BV 238

[cunning nimbus]

So familiar with this image, beta version i guess...

[stone tendon]

That map and mirage are not the same thing obviously, I don’t know why you would claim such a thing

From what I know that map has been basically on hold for a couple years now

[stone tendon]

Also weird they are using Mayan ruins models, probably just as a placeholder until they model something else :PP

[tall plover]

I photoshopped Mirage over the new map and outlined distinguishable areas

Imo the new map doesnt look like a "reworked" version of Mirage

I would like Mirage to come back ingame as what it was before

[modern maple]

I have a grudge with them removing the Mirage lake as you called it

F for Mirage

[cunning nimbus]

WG will not gonna remove Mirage, consider it was an ancient map in Blitz, either renovation or expansion... The truth they had told us to bring those back

[zealous fiber]

The thing good with Mirage in my opinion was it's general open feeling, the exact opposite of Dynasty's Pearl for example. That open sensation made so heavies doesn't have advantage except where they're supposed to be at.
This map is completly different. There is a playground on middle but completely surrounded by walls, cliffs and other obstacles which in my opinion will make this spot a dead area, reinforced by these chokepoints.

[tall plover]

Mirage offered alot of cover opportunities, although last time i went multiple rounds there (Tier V, 2020 Holidays) the battle was mostly decided by which team wins the heavy side (Waterfalls).

The map are fun in the lower tiers though especially that the AI were just driving over the dunes

[hearty osprey]

Does anyone know when uhh Lemme think this map with Submarine easter eag cames Back?

I mean this one

[modern maple]

That is Mirage

[stone tendon]

I really don’t understand why you guys mourn so much just for that tiny map.

New player nostalgia : P

[zealous fiber]

Because it was one of the funniest, and since it was only low tiers the size didn't matter.
Another example why size doesn't matter: Dynasty's Pearl is the of, if not the most hated map and it's even smaller

[elfin moth]

Good job tbh

[hearty osprey]

👍

[knotty mirage]

🎃 One year they had a halloween theme variant of Rockfield at dusk, illuminated by jackolanterns. It would be SO COOL if they did that this October 👻

[dreamy wave]

Nothing for now

[stone tendon]

I see alot of inspiration from El halluf from wot PC

[knotty mirage]

😮 I found it! (well Google found it) Halloween Rockfied map! 🎃

[dreamy wave]

Huh???

[knotty mirage]

I found a pic of the map I mentioned earlier:
One year they had a halloween theme variant of Rockfield at dusk, illuminated by jackolanterns. It would be SO COOL if they did that this October

[red lake]

That’s the ancient one there exists a Halloween version of modern rockfield

[knotty mirage]

That's the only one I could find. Glad to hear there's a newer one. Maybe that'll make it easier for us to get a Halloween map this year🤞

[lament widget]

From what I have to guess maybe the map this year is a re do of desert sands with pyramids

[jolly glacier]

Omg is that a night map?

[quaint bay]

Yes please wg bring this back. I barely remember playing it but I remember loving it

[tall plover]

More images you guys can use for comparison

[summer bough]

What’s that map with the waterfall with a North African beach? Had a hidden submarine under the shore waters? Was it mirage? With the duck season?

Ohhh sshhhh …. IT IS!!!

[knotty mirage]

🎃 I can't find any pics of the modern Rockfield Halloween night map. Do you have any pics? Hoping with all the excitement of a little kid that they will have that map back this year! 🤞

[kindred scaffold]

I think, i have somewhere whole map saved. Mayen i can do video from it

Like i have almost all game versions :C so its question of the time

Like this 😄

[red lake]

https://images.app.goo.gl/X6ZAp6GLaDyv5CXP9 here it is

Dunno why it’s a google link but @kindred scaffold here’s old-modern - halloween rockfield

Wrong ping @knotty mirage

[stone tendon]

Wow weird ive never seen that in my life

also lol at the game chat haha

[red lake]

AFAIK this map has for some reason never appeared again since the Dracula and helsing first dropped

[summer bough]

Imagine if all the tanks’s headlights and taillights are functional in a night map. Would be interesting

[errant frigate]

Mirage was a fun map, I look forward to its reintroduction to the game.

[kindred scaffold]

I mean, game files...

[hazy pecan]

port bay is an autoloss :/

[lament widget]

So how do both teams lose?

[hazy pecan]

because its port bay

map is so bad it makes everyones instantly die

[jolly glacier]

Draw

[cunning nimbus]

Graphics like that can be implemented nowadays, I'd love to see... Oh and, playing realistic battles at midnight and having light turns on🌝🌚

[gray totem]

flanking in a waffle, brave or stupid?

this map is so easy, people don't expect anyone flanking ever. and i survived that battle btw

[river canopy]

That literally never works for me because there’s always a TD who sits at the southwest corner of the map with no shots all game until the moment I try to go up and over and rush the guy across the rail

[finite pulsar]

Weres Lost Temple? An incognite...

[wary wraith]

Got removed for reworking alongside Mirage

[quaint bay]

Wargaming could you add the old maps back please

[stone tendon]

it'll never happen, instead they will "rework" a map by making it flatter and removing more vegetation

[quaint bay]

Wrong one sorry

[plush aspen]

is the wasteland map in burning games a new map?

[orchid minnow]

There's a wasteland map?

[wide shale]

it's been here awhile

[plush aspen]

@orchid minnow yeah I just played it about 15 mins ago

[orchid minnow]

I haven't even play in that map lol

[plush aspen]

ah right just the first time I have seen it

[knotty mirage]

I loved the "garage" (camping in the woods) in the La Reunion event. Ever since then, I've wished they would make a new map around that garage spot. Instead of less vegetation, I'd like to see more! I think it would be the best to have forest/jungle maps, even swamp maps where your tank can get stuck in the mud. But dense forest maps like the North of France would be the coolest to me.

[tough flint]

Like the Black Forest?

[wary wraith]

Same. That was great.

[ruby coyote]

Biggest problem is Flora = lag.

[wary wraith]

Would anyone else like to see some sort of Pacific or Jungle-Themed map?

[quaint bay]

That would be cool

[stone tendon]

Japanese-occupied island, so it’s as if we are island hopping

if you understand what I mean 🙃

[wary wraith]

A rudimentary idea for such a map

[leaden cargo]

Port bay needs a rework. South spawn is critically disadvantaged in almost all games:

• meds have a harder time crossing, easier for them to get shot by TDs and there seems to be more incentive for less skilled players to go town.
  Heavies do not have easy access into lower cover behind base C, and are extremely easy to snipe from across river if you try to stay on the pavement against the hill. Enemy team always has an easier time pushing up and getting hull down positions, sweeping into c and getting on the hill just past it to shoot across river. I would love if we could see map stats on WR for each side? Town is almost always disadvantageous from the start regardless, so that doesn’t improve your chances much anyways. Are there any plans to rework the map? I think at this point everyone knows it’s not in a good state. Nobody even goes to the heavy side more than 1 in 15 games anyways

[meager garden]

I was thinking recently about a thick jungle map too, seems like we had similar ideas

I’d love to see a map that was entirely jungle, (sky nearly not visible). Would be awesome if it was done well.

[scarlet wraith]

I wish there is more urban map cuz new bay has no war atmosphere

[stiff quest]

Wat about an island map?
Maybe like a desert island style or something like that.

[stiff quest]

Oh

[stoic field]

Is Mirage coming back soon?

[stone tendon]

WG teasing pyramids in Desert sands PBR rework

As well as 2 other unnamed maps?

funny how they put desert sands in tunisia lol

[void shale]

Hellas just takes place in the ocean

[stoic field]

Isn’t Hellas in Greece or Rome?

[void shale]

look at that map

[stone tendon]

hehe yea I think the video editor is confused

maybe its atlantis 🙃

[stone tendon]

Hellas means Greece in Greek

[stoic field]

So we are playing in Greece then lol. How did tanks get to Greece? WoT lore confirmed

[stone tendon]

Balkans campaign 1941 comes to mind

[stiff quest]

Ye

[stoic field]

Ah nice. Also that one desert map with a boat stuck on a rock that’s way up there somewhere has one of those planes that flies across dead rail at the beginning of battle ( I still don’t know the name it’s like BV or ME something) and because we know that the Austrian painter sent supplies in those planes to North Africa which is in the desert maybe an allied fighter shot down one of those bug supply planes and it crashed on that map? More wotb lore confirmed?

[tall plover]

Those are two different planes though, those that fly over on Dead Rail are larger and has 6 propellers, the ones on Desert Sands only has 2.

[tall plover]

Only WG and God knows when, if it will be readded ingame even.

[stoic field]

Aww 😦 I really miss that map

[feral musk]

Hellas has water tho

[knotty mirage]

Hellas means Greece in Greek

Hellas translated to English means, "getting shot in the rear regardless of which direction you face" if I'm not mistaken. 🤣

[stone tendon]

Hehe checks out too for that map

[lament widget]

“You really need to be aware of your surroundings on this map”

[void shale]

I've honestly never seen a map with both so much and so little cover at once

[leaden wave]

my guesses for the 2 unnamed ones are himmelsdorf and fort despair

[lament widget]

They mentioned there were like 2 other monsters native to those maps too. Something like a sea monster on Hellas, I think. Forget what the other was.

[meager gate]

i was gonna say new bay but its big

[stone tendon]

The PBR looks very nice here

[austere lark]

Assassins creed origins?😂

[stone tendon]

LOL dude way off

[austere lark]

It’s just a joke😉

[stone tendon]

Ok ok 🙃

[elfin moth]

Yuppp but how did u get that shot?

[stone tendon]

Just put garage files in a playable map then went into spectator mode

[elfin moth]

Wow, steam?

[stone tendon]

You also need to change the 2 sc2 and scg files names to match the map’s

[knotty quartz]

ori_Z_ona#1152 was banned

[verbal python]

castilla honestly should just get removed or should have a forced number of meds/lights on both teams
its unplayable if one side has either just top tier meds and the other doesnt
its also impossible to push when both sides get the utterly stupid amount of 3 tds per team
and you cant spot the meds camping on hill either because rotating would get you killed by all the camping TDs

@austere lark i know that i cant do that thats why im asking for same top/low tier numbers of meds/lights on that map
its impossible to play on that map if people just claim hill and hold heavy line
if the numbers/ tiers of meds lights are different for both teams the meds are even less likely to go where theyre needed becasue they see that theyre at a disadvantage but they dont know thats its almost impossible to pull of a win if they dont do it

Castilla is literally one of the most imbalanced maps there is imo
one spawn has the insane TD positions that you somtimes cant even spot from hill unless you go into the open which gets you killed easily
on the other side you barely have any space for the TDs and thyre instantly spotted from hill
the spawn with the really good TD position also has the more useful bush and easier hulldown on the med hill imo
and the other sides also has a weaker heavy line because its easier farmable from med side

[quaint bay]

I actually like Castilla, it’s a decent size with some nice crossfires, although heavy side can be a bit of a nightmare. Sure it’s kind of a TD map but not if meds are decent, it can be a real nightmare for TDs. At the same time it’s good the way TDs can help support where needed. Yes this is gonna get a lot of negative answers lol

[austere lark]

You can’t force people to go to smart positions though

[stone tendon]

I also like the map, you need to use you brain a lot

[quaint bay]

That’s the only thing I don’t like about it 🤭. But seriously I agree, not just a brawling map with no room, and crossfires are a double-edged sword so take some thought

[wide shale]

All I see for Castilla is med side, to go to heavy side is to die by the TDS and med side snipers

[meager gate]

its unplayable if one side has either just top tier meds and the other doesnt
i agree, especially when you are only med in the team and enemy has 2 meds and that happens most of the time

[quaint bay]

I play meds mostly, so I don’t notice that too badly. I agree heavy side can be annoying, at the same time it’s a very important crossfire and needs to be spotted, and if you’re cautious it should be fine to work up that side

[stone tendon]

If you leave the heavy side open, then your TDs are vulnerable

[wide shale]

most of the battles I play everyone goes to med side anyway, I don't really care for my TDS much because they don't usually amount to anything in the end

[quaint bay]

Not a good way to think of TDs, especially on Castilla. And crossfires are quite important, so heavy side shouldn’t be left unattended imo, unless maybe your entire team rushes straight across the bridges on med side through to in front of enemy spawn sort of area

[wide shale]

my TDS can't do much of anything on Castilla is the enemy is playing smart and hiding and fighting in places out of view from my TDS

most of the fighting happens on the hill, TDS can't snipe through the buildings
or fighting happens by the A cap, and again TDS can't snipe through buildings

[quaint bay]

Yeah, well that’s when you have to use your brain cells (whatever’s left of them after talking to me on here 😂) and play cautiously to bait them into the TDs, don’t worry they’ll be scared of them. And that’s where I kind of like Castilla too, one med can potentially hold off a lot more due to TDs, although sometimes it won’t work if TDs don’t pay attention or something. But same thing with heavies, they can crossfire our tanks trying to push you, and you can do the same to help the heavies getting pushed

[quaint bay]

Hello

[rich obsidian]

i can show u the world

[static rampart]

@rich obsidian what happen to discord💀

[rich obsidian]

wat?

[static rampart]

why ur discord pfp looks soo (EDIT SSSHHH)

[rich obsidian]

0-0 sus

😑hmmm

[rich obsidian]

I have plenty more discord svatars

[static rampart]

ovo lemme see?

[rich obsidian]

Id have to get my other device ill dm later

[quaint bay]

Guys this is #maps-discussion let’s not clog it up, you should go to #pfp-discussions or possibly #off-topic-discussion 😁

[rich obsidian]

It was originally about a map (from my end anyways) then it turned into this .-.

[rich obsidian]

ill send it in dms if u accept fr coz u got friends only mode on .-.

[stone tendon]

Island map concept - 600 x 600 - inspired by YackythatGacky's drawing: #maps-discussion message

[modern maple]

Interesting concept. I find the lack of corridors especially radical

[surreal valve]

Bring back mirage

[stiff quest]

Noice although I think maybe a bit more cover?

[meager garden]

Reminds me of a console map

[meager garden]

Definitely needs a few more defining features, more jungle? And some terrain diversity.

I really like it tho. Also 600 x 600 May be a little small

[hearty osprey]

I love it!

[knotty mirage]

I like the concept, but would like to see a big brother to it.

My concept being a Pacific island just barely large enough for one air strip for refueling in the Pacific theater. Basically, a larger version of yours with two sets of docks (that's how the tanks get on shore) so spawns are near docks. Air strip with NO COVER down the middle (sniping from end points). On one side, base housing/quonset huts and a hangar (small city side). On the other side there's a small refueling depot and a jungle area.

[primal hinge]

Pov He Remember This map

[wide shale]

Finally, an answer

This is from #devs-answers if you need to know

[stone tendon]

Full rework, should be interesting to see how they turn out

[dawn lintel]

Respect from Ukraine bro 🇺🇦

[junior fog]

no politics on server please

[lament widget]

Literally has only been a year and a half

[quaint bay]

"if everything goes well" i guess we're not getting it back in 2023

[broken palm]

Wargaming should delete The Mines map 🗺 and put the mirage back,
this emoji ✅ if you agree
this emoji if you disagree ❌.

[tall plover]

Just bring back Mirage and Lost Temple, then restrict Mines to tier VI and below matches.

[broken palm]

Yea

[stiff quest]

Yup

I miss mirage and lost temple

[wary wraith]

Yooo dude that looks sick! Thanks for using me as inspiration!

[wary wraith]

This is a great day! We can rejoice!

[quaint bay]

Mines is fine, I know it can be a pain, but at least it’s another map you can get, I wouldn’t like to see it removed or restricted. One thing that can be said about it is that it’s unique lol

[wise elm]

It's cool but there's too many trees, which i don't think works in blitz

[analog rune]

No they should add more trees. Cause there’s random tree in maps and you just ask why tf are they there. Like they should do a forest map

[wise elm]

If they make a forest map they need to make large trees that can't be destroyed, large amounts of trees will just make low end devices go boom

[analog rune]

To be honest people be complaining about lag but they play on their nokia and blame the server and them Wargaming

[agile pewter]

?????

[cunning nimbus]

Or just a map with no trees at all, just walls, walls...

[wise elm]

Desert sands

[cunning nimbus]

Or dead rails

[kindred pasture]

Mine really sucks at t10 for one main reason. There is no viable other flank, the river side doesn’t work cause everyone has enough view range to spot you and the town doesn’t work because they just drive onto the hill and your now useless

[tall plover]

Minimize the amount of destructable trees but the map are mostly surrounded by undestructible trees. It would be cool if its themed as ww2 pacific, something like Iwo Jima

[kindred pasture]

The problem isn’t the lack of skill on my end, it’s that the only viable position is just hulldown cupola sniping which is not a lot of fun

[dreamy wave]

Am surprised there is no new map for update 9.4😐

[stone tendon]

Not even pbr rework 😪

Makes sense though, it’s not profitable to make maps 🙄

[dreamy wave]

how??🤔

[hearty osprey]

But Italian TD's will come

I WILL FREE XP THEM SOOOO LETSSS GOOOOOO

[stone tendon]

There are no direct transactions

with techtree vehicles you can buy free xp with gold, or premium tanks that you just buy

maps are free for everyone though

[dreamy wave]

There has only been one map this year and it was in February . That sucks to be honest

[stone tendon]

Yep

[zenith vigil]

you only get to tier 6 or tier 7 Italian tds from bp free exp and missions

[hearty osprey]

Dude i grinded 2 months until now i have 470k free xp

[zenith vigil]

🗿

[hearty osprey]

Wanna see proof?

[zenith vigil]

no thanks

[hearty osprey]

Hmmm ok

[earnest spruce]

Who else jams to Oasis Palm's loading screen music "Sand River"?

[hearty osprey]

Me

[earnest spruce]

Best loading screen OST in the franchise

[dreamy wave]

I value maps more than broken vehicles coming into the game. These devs are lazy af 🤨

[stone tendon]

They value your money more soooo….

😪

[terse snow]

Need new maps pls

[kindred pasture]

Exactly and that’s not fun, I don’t think you understand what I’m saying, I don’t want the only viable position on a map to only suit one type of tank

[sand venture]

But new map means more chance to get killed from an unknown location you will never know

[hearty osprey]

Heavy side Supporter?
Medium side is always better even when i drive e100 i go med side

[river canopy]

Questionable plays reveal

[quaint bay]

its better for having a high chance of winning but your dmg will be way lower than on heavy side. It depends tho if there are more heavies i go heavy side to farm and more meds=med side

[zinc trout]

Just go hill. Whoever wins the hill wins the game, there’s no reason to go anywhere else

[quaint bay]

I think tanks like the 50B, T 57 etc. may have a place going heavy side on mines to try to get some early shots off, and farm an approaching heavy by outtrading it. But that would only be if hill had enough support to hold while you did that

[hearty osprey]

Depends on map

[river canopy]

Town is literally the worst position on that map, and it's not close

Town on Mines is literally the best way to simultaneously rob your team of much needed help on the hill, but also to get shot by tanks on the high ground on hill, AND shot by unspotted TDs in the enemy spawn

Literally exposed to 3 different angles with no cover while causing your team to play a tank down

[storm bone]

Add a jungle with small mountains idk i just tought of this lol

or something that is thymed for these pyramids

[round pumice]

You guys think that the Oasis map will return soon?
I hope that it will

[lament widget]

Just so ppl aren’t confused, he’s talking about mirage, not oasis palms

[round pumice]

I tought it was called Oasis buuut you're right, sorry mate

Also it would be cool if there was some kind of a cave system map

[hearty osprey]

We have already one but it isnt one entire map its just a small one and its black goldville or how its named forgot sry
But its just a very small area

[round pumice]

Yeah ik, but I mean like the whole map and everything is underground, i think i'd be cool

[wary wraith]

No, that wouldn’t be. Gameplay would be incredibly limited, light tanks and fast TDs would dunk all over heavies with no time to react, it would be hard to get much real terrain differences, and it would turn into a massive brawl with no real strategy or nuance.

[stark phoenix]

I always go town on Mines unless I'm a medium or I have very good gun depression.
Town is okay as long as your team has Hill covered, which allows for a flanking maneuver in which you can use buildings to prevet TDs from making you have a bad day.
But... don't go directly to the down area. Go to the area next to the hill.

Wanna know what the worst area to go in is? Lake/Oceanside.

[left comet]

unless your spawn is the north side, there's a small island that you can use to get a shot or two early game

[quaint bay]

Firstly, the majority of the time your team will need you on hill, so no, going town is not a smart idea.
Also, the islands have a good spot on both sides for covering the entrance to the hill, and some nice flanking opportunities depending on the enemy line up. They can also be used to farm spotted TDs from a distance, without having to peek hill. But that's fairly situational.

[velvet pumice]

When will Mirage and Lost Temple map come back?

[quaint bay]

This is all we know.

[quaint bay]

@velvet pumice this is all that’s officially been said

[hollow portal]

Ugh more pbr maps , more unplayable maps , more reasons to leave

[quaint bay]

Yeah the pbr maps look worse than they did before and they utterly destroy the whole mobile side of the game. Luckily I got a strong iPad and phone but not that many people have the devices needed to run this so called mobile game now

[glacial sundial]

They should do something similar with the tank models when pbr were introduced. If you set the graphics at high instead of ultra, you get the version without pbr. Personally, I have no performance issues, but it would be a nice touch for people with lower end devices

[glass moth]

lost temple POG

[quaint bay]

Yeah and the most OG map is oasis

[hollow portal]

A year ago before all the pbr crappy maps , i could run everything on high and now i have to keep everything on low and only tanks on high which is bs , i want there to be an option for pbr and non pbr maps while i keep every other setting the same , wg is just ugh , unable to explain without swearing and hurting snowflakes

[quaint bay]

Yeah but they changed the lay out of maps with pbr compared to them before. Which is stupid

[red lake]

There’s only 1 pbr map in the game right now? The remodels are HD maps

It’s not like they’ve been ignoring low end devices they’ve been mentioning they’ve been hearing the game for low end support for the past year now and are starting to let that go

[stray jackal]

Can we all agree that vineyard is the worst map rn? Its tiny, one side is better than the other and coincidentally is french based.

[river canopy]

Middleburg says hi

[stray jackal]

💀

[potent shore]

i do hate Vineyards

especially north spawn

have to agree with all 3 points

[river canopy]

North spawn is literally an instaloss unless a substantial portion of the enemy team goes town

[potent shore]

for vineyards? yeah

or do you mean Middleburg as well

[river canopy]

Vineyards yeah

[hollow portal]

Extremely bad map imo , next one is castilla definitely

[quaint bay]

I like vineyards lol. I like the way it’s a continuous map, heavies don’t all have to rush med side for fear that the enemy will do the same. Some decent crossfires etc. I hate the way on a lot of maps the heavy side is isolated and therefore unplayable

[wide shale]

Darn you maps with half a city for heavies 💀
Makes med side infinity better just because there isn’t a city on med side

[river canopy]

Yes. Someone who finally understands why mixed type maps are garbage tier map design

[wide shale]

Mostly because of you xd
I also dislike how those maps just have the city super tiny, and then you look outside the map and see 400% more city

Like, why is there this tiny portion that has been clearly separated from the rest 💀
And why can’t we just fight in that city instead of driving up a mountain

[quaint bay]

All the maps need to be larger

Some of them are so small that it’s not fun

[loud echo]

Go play pc?

[hearty osprey]

Gold Spam meta that aint funny and op tanks like t95/chieftain and obj 279e

[wary wraith]

T95/Chieftan is in the game my guy. Blitz is meant to be a small and quick game to play. Go to PC if you want big maps and long matches.

[verbal python]

new bay needs a change one side has an absolutely massive disadvantage for the city side and absolutely no advantage anywhere else
and unfortunately people tend to go city no matter what u tell them to do making one side an instant loss

[hearty osprey]

Bruh k my mistake but i mean this FV4202/chieftain or how it was called

Edit its called t95FV4201/chieftain

[stone tendon]

That map should just be removed, it’s so unnatural for tanks

[stone tendon]

They feel tiny because maps these days are a lot flatter, and a lot less open. Castilla feels huge right? Well believe it or not it is smaller than a map like ghost factory or Naval frontier.

[quaint bay]

Castilla doesn’t feel that big. It would just be nicer for the maps to be a little more spread out making tds a bit more usable and lights have a more prominent role in the meta

[quaint bay]

Copperfield is really small, that’s why tier 10s can’t play in it. Might not happen but I would prefer an extension to the map. And possibly Mines?

[ruby coyote]

Idk alot of the maps are pretty trash.

[stone tendon]

It’s supposed to be in Italy not France

There are pizzas everywhere

[quaint bay]

People mostly go to the city, other side it’s rare to see people go there.
Also a fact about Vineyards it’s based in Italy

[prime wedge]

For me its ghost factory, its just bad

[dreamy wave]

Uninstall game😂😂

[stone tendon]

Eh, for Tds it sucks, for lights it’s not too bad. It’s a mid tier map in blitz

[hearty osprey]

Nope you can also play t10 on it and already t5 can

[stone tendon]

I meant if you were to rank maps

[patent briar]

What do u think about HT camping in hill of Castilla dude

[verbal hedge]

you mean campstylia

[steep plover]

Wg do balance maps not just balance tanks... the maps has different advantage positions and that's unfair, do balance positions same as you done to wot pc.

[hearty osprey]

You mean Capstillia?

[quaint bay]

Caps are very bad tbh, highly exposed, only good in a game where the teams go one side or something, or later game when the team doesn’t have them all covered. B cap is actually ok thinking about it, but doesn’t get used all too much

[quaint bay]

Which maps do you have in mind? While symmetrical maps are good and fair, I like asymmetrical ones that have different points for each side, as long as one doesn’t have an out right advantage over the other side of course

Maps with different sides make for more interesting gameplay IMO, so I wouldn’t want them all to be identical. But yes they need to be balanced of course.

[strong fractal]

I would love a dieppe map or carpeqet

Maybe berlin

[steep plover]

Port bay is the one in my mind, one side had all advantages like medium tanks side, you can't stay there when enemy med tank using hulldown and if you try to go back you get a shot from the other side easily like it has more advantages than the other position and our Alice are difficult to support med tanks... not only that position same as heavy sides, the reason why med tank side has a big advantage is, that position is a bit higher than the other side means they see your whole body using hulldown and td only see them their turret that's why mostly medium tanks leave that position immediately when they face other tank or they will sacrifice...

[quaint bay]

Right, I’ve heard complains about this map being imbalanced but I’m not too sure why. It may be bad, but if so it seems equally bad for both sides? The real problem is that like a ton of maps, heavy side/town is unusable in the current meta most of the time. Meds also really need to take the super risky position on the far side of the med side across the river. Yes that’s really painful if you’re not in a hull down tank and the enemy med is. But mostly I think the issue you’re talking about is that you can’t reverse safely cause your rear peeks out and you get nuked by heavies across the river. However, that only happens if heavies don’t go to the forward position around the hill. That’s where this map is really frustrating, it relies heavily on crossfires which means team mates have to take the correct position or you get nuked. Which is very annoying sometimes. But it seems balanced equally for both sides to me, not sure if I’m missing something.