ask-td2-community

[earnest trellis]

Which can be detrimental if u use it too much

But then again, sometimes Birdie can clutch on final stage on the mission

[left ravine]

Yeah you can run out really quick. Your team should make sure they position themselves well. It's not your job to run after them begging to heal lol

If they want heals they need to pay attention

[earnest trellis]

But BTSU gloves overall utility cannot be understated

[topaz forge]

YOU ARE BEING HEALED. PLEASE DO NOT RESIST.

[earnest trellis]

Ik, that's why 99% of the time I'm just sit back and watch my teammates

Unless I run Refractor

[left ravine]

Can be quite an adventure with randoms, I know

[earnest trellis]

Been there, done that 🙃

[inner tendon]

I'm adding one more to the Refactor/Refractor count.

[left ravine]

😄

[earnest trellis]

So I guess that includes content creators like GCRock or RogueGold?

[cobalt sedge]

Should make an April's Fools version renamed Refractor - Receive repairs of 10% of the dramage drealt by your Skrills. Your rallies will receive repairs of 20% of the dramage drealt by your Skrill.

[left ravine]

Yes, definitely

[left ravine]

If you want decent advice check out #td2-build-advice

[earnest trellis]

https://youtu.be/2Qi8oxQZ5oo?si=sNuVDKFH5aiOpN-Y
Wut about this vid? I mean he said Amplified dmg is one of if not the best dmg type in the game, is this legit?

Cuz afaik, DTOC is usually the go to

[left ravine]

I have no nerve to watch that dude's videos, sry

[earnest trellis]

Owh?

[winter elk]

does pestilence passive not work with strikers

[slim elk]

no, Pesti ticks are based off of Weapon DMG

[earnest trellis]

Wym? I did use pesti with the striker and the Tick dmg does infact increase when I stack more striker's stack

[slim elk]

it doesnt

[earnest trellis]

💀

Wym it doesn't? I see it with my own eyes as I use it most of the time

[slim elk]

it really doesnt lol

[earnest trellis]

Bruh, I dunno wut ur on, but u definitely delusional or perhaps just ragebait me

[limpid girder]

i just got some weird "exotic" item that is like body armor something (but isnt an item) can someone explain to me what it is?

[slim elk]

@wispy merlin I summon the patient zombie

[bleak oracle]

pesti stacks also the more bullets you hit, are you sure that's not what youre seeing.....

[wispy merlin]

build to say 50 striker stacks, stop shooting and look at the tick, if you don't see the tick damage lowering, that tells you all you need to know

[winter elk]

dm me a screenshot of it idk what you mean

[novel root]

Is there a "best" way to cancel hunter's healing other than melee?

[limpid girder]

i cant i already picked it up,

[slim elk]

foam

[winter elk]

foam or banshee pulse

[wispy merlin]

status, stagger from explosions etc.

[cobalt sedge]

use the active modifier this season, blackout pulse - assuming you're not in a countdown with enemy hazard protection anyway

[winter elk]

is there anywhere besides the main lootpool that the big alejandro spawns, the spreadsheet is still blank on it

[earnest trellis]

Ok, if that's the case, Would Core Strength be good for Pesti's DoT? I mean, Petrov Lengmo would be obvious, but wut about Core Strength then

[inner tendon]

It has no unique spawn location, just gotta keep farming that TL: LMG. (targeted loot).

[lofty arrow]

how do the /join stuff works do I just open the ingame text chat and do /join (playername)

[wispy merlin]

no, because you don't gain more weapon damage with it than striker

the best gear set for it right now is concentrated company

[earnest trellis]

But u said the DoT doesn't scale with Striker

[bleak oracle]

yes

[lofty arrow]

rad thanks

[wispy merlin]

as in striker already doesn't do anything and core strength doesn't even give weapon damage

[bleak oracle]

dont even need to open chat can just type /join xxxx cus / opens it up for you and types it in

[wispy merlin]

striker: gives an amp that doesn't interact with its tick, but increases bullet damage, you run red cores with it

core strength: you run red cores with it, the set only gives bonuses for the cores you DON'T have, so you don't get any more weapon damage

so it's pointless

[earnest trellis]

Wym it doesn't give any weapon dmg? The talents said if u use other than red, u will get 40% of the total red core, which is weapon dmg, 75% if u use the chest piece

[wispy merlin]

think about it critically, in what world will you get more weapon damage than running reds with it

read and really think hard about it, you can do it 💀

The talents said if u use other than red, u will get 40% of the total red core, which is weapon dmg

okay... and if you run red cores only, you get... 100% of the total red cores

100% > 40% or no

[bleak oracle]

no cus 4 > 1

[wispy merlin]

xD

[topaz forge]

Core Strength is nice for Solo Play but the damage from 6 Red Strikers is just too good to pass up

[earnest trellis]

Well just want to know if I can build another build that just isn't a striker

[wispy merlin]

.

[earnest trellis]

Cuz everyone and their moms pretty run it

[wispy merlin]

you can also use something other than pesti because pesti is just that picki

[earnest trellis]

And how do u even stack the talents for it? Cuz it took me ages just to full stack the damn thing

[inner tendon]

Just so I can properly suggest when people ask: the spreadsheet one is up to date as far as it matters, right?

[wispy merlin]

that's the tradeoff for it, it stacks better in a group, but that's the only gear set option that fully buffs it

[wispy merlin]

yeah, @snow cargo keeps it up to date afaik

[snow cargo]

I try… I’ve been slacking..

[earnest trellis]

But even so, would it still take awhile to stack even in group? I mean u pretty much just competing with other teammates at that point

[wispy merlin]

it stacks by you landing a shot on enemies, not by killing them, so it's not as hard as you make it sound

you can land 1 shot on an enemy and have 3 others shoot them, that's how you get stacks

[dreamy sentinel]

game says journey reward available but then i cant claim it because nothing is there?? just did the fast leather belt thingy and i assume it was supposed to be a journey reward. how do i claim it then

[indigo wraith]

ok so does eb, ouro, rav, and bighorn still drop from their original sources and now they are also blueprints are do they no longer drop from their og sources

[earnest trellis]

Yea, if ur teammates willing to wait for u go that route

[bleak oracle]

ttk is not that fast man surely you can land some shots

[earnest trellis]

Then again ppl just go guns blazing, and will kill the enemy as fast as they could

[inner tendon]

They still drop in their old locations, and the blueprints are being removed from Retals (but you'll keep them) after this Season.
so make sure you farm them out ASAP.

[indigo wraith]

oh wtf why are they removing them

[earnest trellis]

Yeah but it's just impractical imo

[bleak oracle]

did you even read the talent...

[inner tendon]

It's MSV things, I'm guessing things will be changed at some point.

[indigo wraith]

what?

[ivory stratus]

would yall reconfigure a tinkerer with:

WD: 12.6
CHC: 5.1
CHD: 11.2

to try get better base or just optimise from there?

[wispy merlin]

i would just optimize anyways because exo comps are better spent for expertise

[earnest trellis]

Yea, I did read it, and like I said, impractical as the mark isn't last that long either

[inner tendon]

#div2things.

[bleak oracle]

so you just shoot one guy and leave him alone for 7 seconds?

its not as hard as youre making it sound

[ivory stratus]

how many does it take? like is there anywhere to see the exact amount it takes to go from 0 to 30?

[wispy merlin]

45

[earnest trellis]

🤣

[ivory stratus]

lord dayum

anywhere to see all the total?

wanna save enough to go from 0 to 30 just bc

[wispy merlin]

someone can probably paste a pic

just know that you will not have enough

[inner tendon]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/553520755103760385/1490146240531398806/expertise-upgrades-table-updated-to-y8s1-v0-z5znl6j04usg1.png?ex=69e22795&is=69e0d615&hm=2b8ab990c32948f62725c01bf8db102c8aea239c92827a92c2292b38d77a8f99& cough cough

[ivory stratus]

is this after the nerf from y8 launch or gotta half it myself?

[wispy merlin]

that is after the nerf

pre nerf is 90 total

[ivory stratus]

166 field ugh thats pain

[inner tendon]

Keep an eye on the 📌 pinned-message of this channel, it'll be updated as it needs to be.

[ivory stratus]

gotchaa thank you

[dreamy sentinel]

thats a lot of damn resources

[ivory stratus]

real

[inner tendon]

Originally it was what, 4x the amount of Exotics?

[dreamy sentinel]

so, if i understood correctly, you can get higher expertise level by being proficient with more and more items in the game?

[ivory stratus]

yea

[inner tendon]

Basically yeah.
You will get to 30 before everything is Proficient though, there's more than you need.

[ivory stratus]

im SHD 671 and expertise 30 but do not need all that yet loll

i think i hit 30 at 430 weapons done

or well items

[dreamy sentinel]

What the hell!!!

Im level 610 or whatever and expertise 3💀💀💀

[ivory stratus]

even crazier only got 280 hrs ingame

basically from the get-go i was farming expertise

[dreamy sentinel]

Oh i dont have a lot of hours either, 150 or so. But i first played thru the main game with missions etc i was clueless

[ivory stratus]

im not sure what things to make expertise 30 first

[frank storm]

what should my dmg/armor/health stats look like to do countdown on challenging?

[ivory stratus]

i mean on challenging i wouldnt worry too much

i was doing heroic with the most random stuff during expertise week

[frank storm]

i just dont want to go in and get smoked or be a hindrance

[ivory stratus]

i mean there is 8 people stay with the group and youll be ight

[dreamy sentinel]

Real

[frank storm]

that is true

[dreamy sentinel]

Even my ass was fine on heroic countdown where my highest crit didnt even hit 500k and i was made of a single sheet of paper

[ivory stratus]

real

hunter would look my way and i'd die

[dreamy sentinel]

I give all the blessing to the exodus glove

[frank storm]

This is what I currently have .. trying to play around and get the best all around build (I know, won't happen easily) but just wanna make sure I'm actually contributing

[dreamy sentinel]

For keeping me alive so many times with that smoke bomb

[dreamy sentinel]

You land shots, you contribute 🗣️

[frank storm]

That's true... Just overthinking it

[dreamy sentinel]

You really are : )

just get yourself a striker build with big alehandro and hold down that trigger lmao

[frank storm]

Been seeing that build talked about a lot and want to start getting the pieces put together

[dreamy sentinel]

Chestplate and backpack is a must

[wispy merlin]

backpack sure but not really chest

[dreamy sentinel]

Doesnt that give you the buff from 0.65 to 0.90?

[wispy merlin]

that's the backpack

[dreamy sentinel]

Then what gives the 100 to 200 stack

[slim elk]

chest is not a must

[wispy merlin]

chest...

[dreamy sentinel]

My bad

So those 100 stacks arent that important?

[wispy merlin]

building up to the chest is a big problem, maintaining it is another, in most content you can't really afford to get close enough to ACS to build up fast

and if you're not using ACS to build up to 200 fast, it's not worth using

most content is also not that tanky, incursion and escalation are the only 2 places rn where it's recommended

[dreamy sentinel]

I was fine getting to 200 stacks with alehandro tbh, but again my stats were not good at all at the time

[wispy merlin]

the thing is it doesn't deal that much damage building up, so getting to 200 with it is easier, but the goal isn't to get to 200 stacks, it's to kill the enemy faster

[somber spoke]

Strikers chest isn’t worth it. Just use the equalizer chest or a chest with obliterate

[inner tendon]

@somber spoke You mean Strikers Chest.

[somber spoke]

shhh you saw nothing

[indigo wraith]

what is this new compare thing why did they change it

[left ravine]

We don't know. Maybe it'll come back with the next planned update, maybe not

[indigo wraith]

it better this new compare is so buns it messes with me sm

[topaz forge]

do the Deathgrips have a lower drop chance or does the game just not like me in particular 😭

[indigo wraith]

Ubisoft hates you in particular and only you

[topaz forge]

i knew it 😔

[inner tendon]

@topaz forge Deathgrips are DZ locked, so they won't drop in regular TL.

[indigo wraith]

yeah that too

[topaz forge]

well, that'd explain why i haven't found any in Countdown @~@

thank

[inner tendon]

If you ever want to check, the spreadsheet over in #td2-build-advice > 📌 > "spreadsheet 2", has a list of where each item drops, either "DZ" or "LZ".

[left ravine]

Aside from them not being useful (use 1pc PS instead) you can get them from named item caches, Houndsman bounty and its blueprint can be farmed via Descent or Retaliations

[topaz forge]

good to know, thank you.
only reason i need them specifically is because of the Hazard Protection it gives at 3pc.
like, i initially ran it for the AoK (not realizing that there was a brand that gave AoK at 1pc -~-), but ever since finding out about the wonders of Hazard Protection, i figure the Deathgrips are the best way to get the best of both worlds

and this is specifically for my Solo build (i'm using Striker's in groups until i can make my own alternative, though i doubt that'll happen anytime soon)

[left ravine]

HazPro is only really useful in PvP. For PvE you waste damage that you'll need on higher difficulties.

If you really insist on using HazPro however you can use the seasonal modifiers to up it to a decent value so you don't have to spec much into it

[noble jackal]

can someone tldr what retaliations are? i see them advertised but 🤷‍♂️

[left ravine]

🤷‍♂️

[somber spoke]

What’re you confused about

[left ravine]

https://www.ubisoft.com/en-us/game/the-division/the-division-2/news-updates/15OjYSjEhS2rUfiDINkRxD/the-division-2-rise-up

[tiny flint]

Hey people I saw a picture with all the season perks and the max values but I cant find it ?

[left ravine]

Check out v1rtualzZ on twitter

[tiny flint]

oh his work is good! but im looking for the sheet that has already combined seasonal modifiers and gives us max values of each

I saw it yesterday in a quick build video but cant find the thing

[left ravine]

Idk what you mean. Search this discord for images then

[inner tendon]

Do you mean the calculator? https://billothewild.github.io/TheDivision/#lv=0,0,0&eq=none&p=none,none,none

[analog quartz]

Can anyone help me? If I want to get to Lvl 30 Expertise with Assault Rifles, do I need to be at Lvl 10 Proficiency with all Assault Rifles?

[left ravine]

Expertise is about all gear gear being proficient, roughly 430 items out of 470 ish

[pseudo tundra]

you are going to need ot be proficient with a lot of things more than just ARs

[spiral thistle]

For me its was 417 exactly

[tiny flint]

its Widdz own sheet, thats why I coudnt find it, I had to go thru my youtube history to find what I saw, found it

[tiny flint]

that is actually insane, thx bro

[left ravine]

There's a million of those AI made things

[tiny flint]

oh ? idk if u have a better one ill appreciate u sending

[left ravine]

Yeah my data might be outdated by now

[vale token]

When it shows mission completed what is the difference between like damage dealt 1961M and -1278M

[left ravine]

I don't use those, sry

[spiral thistle]

Tbf i think it might be slightly different for everyone but its definitely at least 417

[analog quartz]

Wow.. so to get to lvl 30 Expertise with anything on the game, I need to be proficient with weapons & gear? 😓

[tiny flint]

nw brother thx for the help

[spiral thistle]

Im so happy its over that expertise event was massive for me went from 25 to 30 in like 3 hours

[left ravine]

Integer overflow, it goes up to 2.14b before it goes negative

[vale token]

so the negative number is higher?

[spiral thistle]

Yes

[left ravine]

Yes and no. After it's negative it goes positive again

[spiral thistle]

Yeah but it has to go all the way to 0 again before it stars going positive

[vale token]

ill post a pic im just curious if i did the most damage lol

[spiral thistle]

You did

[spiral thistle]

Yeah you did by quite a bit

[left ravine]

Yeah I think you did judging by the kills

[mellow trout]

The star denotes best in class

[vale token]

i was the only one prototyped lol i was going to be like damn i need more work if mine was less

[left ravine]

Oh right, that too

[mellow trout]

But if it wraps back round to positive it forgets your damage so generally judged by kills

[vale token]

OH okay so thats what that stuff means

I always see it but never really knew what it all meant lol

[spiral thistle]

Wait i didn't even notice that. In all my hours I never saw that until now lol

[livid bear]

Whats the difference between raids and incursions

[spiral thistle]

Raids are 8 player mission and are generally longer with multiple puzzles and bosses and incursions are like mini raids with 4 people and generally shorter with puzzles and bosses to. Im sure there's more to it but thats the basic bit

[honest dome]

guys can someone send me the passive modifier table for this seasons thing ?

[left ravine]

#ask-td2-community message

[somber spoke]

Isn’t there only 1 infusion in the game

[spiral thistle]

Yes

They are bringing a new one this year tho

[inner tendon]

"Steel Creek".

[pseudo tundra]

surprised no one corrected the infusion part

[kind cove]

How difficult is it to get the blueprint for say, ravenous in retaliations

[pseudo tundra]

extremely easy

i got it like in my second or third BT retal

only did a couple more to get the mats to craft it

[slim elk]

easy asf

[kind cove]

Whats the list of blueprints again?

[pseudo tundra]

#news-and-announcements has a link to the site

clunky to copy and paste on mobile

[kind cove]

Wait, completion rewards? As in, guaranteed?

[honest dome]

what is tomorrows event any exp boost ?

[somber spoke]

not guaranteed but a good chance

[somber spoke]

weapon damage, headshot damage, weaon accuracy, stability>. No xp

[honest dome]

oh thanks

[mellow trout]

50 percent

[kind cove]

I hope I don’t have to farm like crazy, I want exclusively just rav

[somber spoke]

black tusk

[kind cove]

Thx

[pseudo tundra]

and blueprints dont have dupes

[somber spoke]

yeah

[pseudo tundra]

so pretty easy to get

[kind cove]

Kinda figured I just don’t like retaliations much so I never play it

[pseudo tundra]

imalso got tired of them quickly

[somber spoke]

retals are good for targeted loot and exotics. Guaranteed exotic and named for every heroic retal and you can focus loot like in countdown

[mellow trout]

I much prefer them over countdown given the choice

[kind cove]

I may play them now with the match making selection

My main issue was having to unlock it first just for more open world activities as a gamemode

[brisk wedge]

Is there a bug right now where your jammer pulse is shut off? I was playing on two different missions where the oulse wasnt able to be used. In the first one i just reloaded right quick and it turned to normal

[mellow trout]

Skill slots can bug out on occasion

[brisk wedge]

Ibe never had it happen in two missions back to back before..

[left ravine]

It often happens when you get downed while you activate a skill. Needs a relog to fix it

[compact furnace]

Why cant I upgrade this?

[inner tendon]

@compact furnace Is it equipped? If so, take it off first.

[compact furnace]

Oh, okay

[spiral thistle]

Also when you prototype weapons make sure you un equip the weapon attachments first and make sure your inventory isn't full

[left ravine]

If you keep the mods on does that cause all other weapon mods in your inventory to get unequipped??

[spiral thistle]

For me its removed the mods for every other weaponI had that was in a saved build so I had to go and re equip them all. For example let's say I have a crit chance scope and equipped. It would remove that scope from every othe weapon i had with that equipped in any of my builds

[left ravine]

Yes that's what I mean. It's mad annoying man

[spiral thistle]

Yeah its was so infuriating going back and having to re equip everything 😂😂😂

[inner tendon]

First time I've heard of that. I Prototyped a Lex and no mods missing.

[spiral thistle]

It doesn't happen every time

It didn't happen with the lmg I prototypeed

[left ravine]

Every mod and skin is removed from all my loadouts every time I prototype a weapon. Only exception yesterday was my Harvest

Haven't tried since

[spiral thistle]

I haven't had skins be removed yet tbf but now I know to do that lol

At least it doesn't delete them

Just un equips

[left ravine]

I've had to fix that shxt four times by now

I'll try removing mods next time

[spiral thistle]

I feel your pain

[left ravine]

Thx for the hint

[spiral thistle]

Yeah remove the mods and skin first and it shouldn't happen

[inner tendon]

Well I'm glad I was lucky then.
The 50 guns in my inventory thank Lootcifer.

[spiral thistle]

It only does weapons that you have a saved build for

Or loadout is the better word im looking for

[inner tendon]

I've got maxed loadouts, so no it doesn't always happen.

[spiral thistle]

I never said it always did

[left ravine]

Great, that means it'll take longer to fix

[spiral thistle]

Yeah the devs have got a lot on their hands tbf

[left ravine]

Would be nice if they prioritise fixing bugs for a while instead of pushing new content with priority

[spiral thistle]

I think thats their plan i feel season 2 has been overhauled is gonna be a big patch season for pvp and pve

We need an operation health or something

But good

[left ravine]

Project Resolve 2.0

[spiral thistle]

Yeah literally

They need to fix determined to as much as I love it. It really needs to go

[left ravine]

Let's see how they're going to use the new bug reporter platform. I hope they'll take care of it better than they did with their Trello board - and also get to action

[spiral thistle]

Yeah the new bugg reporter is really cool

[radiant coral]

Does the regular houndsman bounty drop the backpack?

[spiral thistle]

The apparel?

[radiant coral]

Yeah

[left ravine]

Mask, backpack, gloves I think, same as bloody Houndsman

Hard to find someone with that bounty tho

[spiral thistle]

Nope mask only all the other apparel was only attainable during the event itself which is super dumb

[left ravine]

Hmm

[spiral thistle]

I have the bounty it is mask only i wasted one testing it with a friend thankfully I have 2 spares

[left ravine]

I'm not sure rn

[radiant coral]

The backpack is so good 🙁

[spiral thistle]

Yeah I agree

[left ravine]

They made it a store bundle. Mention it in #1380126780152614944 and wait for it to come back

[spiral thistle]

I have the full outfits for both. The bloody hounds man one is rare because they literally didn't tell anyone that it was in the global event lol

And not dropped from the bounty itself

[radiant coral]

I have em both on xbox but i didn't play during the pc one more than just trying to get a bounty

Also somehow didn't get the boo jacket during the anniversary event.

[spiral thistle]

I used the hounds man bounty to grind expertise for named items was good fun

[radiant coral]

I've gotten so much expertise since last week just hosting for people.

[spiral thistle]

Yep I got two friends of mine from 19 to 28 and 20 to 30 over 3 days just grinding that during the expertise event soooo much loot

[left ravine]

I hosted a bunch for Halloween, couldn't be arsed to do it again for the Bloody Houndsman

[spiral thistle]

Can't blame ya

I had a blast hosting the krampus ones the amount of loot beams was crazy it lagged my game

To bad they dont drop anything anymore

[left ravine]

Was another great event

Well they do but it depends on TL

[spiral thistle]

Devs knew what they were doing when they removed the loot drops from the krampus bountys lol

[radiant coral]

I think krampus was happening when destiny was fun so i never did that one. Is it essentially the same?

[spiral thistle]

Pretty much just tripple the amount of nammed enemy's

[left ravine]

Yeah it scaled normally by amount of teammates

[spiral thistle]

They dont drop any gear anymore tho. Or at least no named gear

Which fair enough otherwise it would've been to easy

But I have like 20 krampus bountys that I cant do anything with hahah

I dont even think it drops the mask for killing him anymore

[left ravine]

Do them when gear mods are TL. Worth it

[spiral thistle]

True

In my like 4k hours in div 2 I have never ever seen a 13% PFE

[inner tendon]

Let's just say that they're .....quite rare.

Without having checked, I know I have at least 1.

[spiral thistle]

I think id win the lottery and get hit by lightning first

[left ravine]

What difficulty do you play on?

[spiral thistle]

Heroic

Should just sit in countdown tbf its just so boring

[left ravine]

Play legendary too

[spiral thistle]

Not as bad as summit tho

[left ravine]

I'm also around 4k hours I think

[inner tendon]

If you want your best chance at getting them, Legendary Summit w/ a bucket of Directives is a pretty good chance.
It's how I got most of my maxed red mods back in the day.

[rugged stratus]

ive had 2 drop in 8k hours

[spiral thistle]

Niceee thats awesome 👀👀

[left ravine]

I'd rather have maxed out skill mods lol

[spiral thistle]

Wanna trade i have loads of those lol

Tbf i barely use pfe

[left ravine]

Same

[spiral thistle]

I want it so I can say I have it but never actually use it

[left ravine]

Deconstruct a 13% PfE mod, record it and post it on Reddit

[spiral thistle]

Thats suicide 😭😭😭😭

Id be grilled publicly

[left ravine]

Priceless reactions

[spiral thistle]

How to get doxed 101

[left ravine]

Lol nah

[spiral thistle]

Trueee

[slim elk]

@rugged stratus

[echo mural]

anyone have access to the houndsman bounty?

[civic junco]

I do

[echo mural]

Willing to help me get a quickstep? If i even can lol im very new to the game

[civic junco]

Join me in game

type /join Rowdy_Rutabaga in chat window

[echo mural]

ty so much

[desert thunder]

Am I the only one who's keeping track of how many games a person is playing to get a prototype gear? Like what is the drop rate? Is it one out of 3,685 games before one piece drops? Like I want to know or is there a place where a person can see what the drop rate for prototype gear set

[left ravine]

It's called a carrot in front of your nose

[desert thunder]

nope dont belive you lol

[stray bobcat]

its random, the highest tier has like a 1.2%

[mellow trout]

1.5

tiers 8-10 have dramatically increased drop rates compared to others

[paper hill]

trying to do the hostage rescue tries the map reset every time i fast travel and spawn more question marks?

[versed harbor]

Why no stretch goals this time around?

[mellow trout]

the season started like 2 weeks ago man

[versed harbor]

I'm also not too upset with the drop rate, these things should be rare. However the materials needed to upgrade them need to be reduced. No reason EVERY single item I wanna turn proto needs a core AND the mats to get expertise 30 each time.

[versed harbor]

I need incentive to keep going while I piss and moan about prototype gear problems.

[mellow trout]

These are the least of the systems problems imo

[civic junco]

It's so you feel a sense of pride and accomplishment when you get a new proto piece

[versed harbor]

So you're cool with spending over 500 exotic components to fully proto a set? I'm not.

One time sure, but continuously if you don't get what you needed? No thanks.

[mellow trout]

[civic junco]

These hamster wheels ain't gonna spin themselves

[mellow trout]

I've done this plus a sacrifice and a hollow man and an archivist + lex and I still have 250 components in reserve

[versed harbor]

Are all those pieces perfect rolls that need no changes?

[mellow trout]

Well that's why I said it's the least of the problems

I'm more concerned about optimisation/recal and also augment reroll costs

[versed harbor]

That's.... Kinda what I was getting at.

If you don't get what you want, you have to re-expertise an item to 30. That's the main issue.

[civic junco]

It's the Classified Gearset argument. give it a year and everyone will be rolling in Prototype gear

[mellow trout]

I mean you don't HAVE to, it's kind of a silly thing to do

[indigo wraith]

does the new cs set bonus work with every main core on ninja bag?

[mellow trout]

By the time they iron the system out those components could've been used to prototype other pieces instead

[mellow trout]

Yes

[indigo wraith]

sick

[versed harbor]

I don't quite understand how trying to best optimize your equipment is silly? Seems like a cope to defend this awful system lol

[mellow trout]

The ninja bag is a direct upgrade to the CS bag in every way

[mellow trout]

If you wanna spend like 999 components trying to get a god rolled piece that's your prerogative but I'm waiting till they release optimisation to save myself the trouble

[inner tendon]

@rocky sierra There was never a set date for crossplay. AI answers are not actual answers, and you can ignore any article that has used them for info.
The official information we have for crossplay is "some time this year", If that changes, you'll know via an official source.

[wide jolt]

Not really. Running the CS bag allows you to run another exotic. Its a bit situational.

[civic junco]

The only activity that needs the gear is the activity you get it from

[versed harbor]

Brother. THAT'S WHAT I'M SAYINNNNNNNNNNNNG

It's a problem nowwwwww and it shouldn't be like this.

Also you have alot of confidence in a dev team that thought expertise was a good idea lol

[pseudo tundra]

Well all additions to the game have been reworked to be more accesible and polished

[versed harbor]

I'm always in favor of giving us things to do after endgame and grind to make our character better, but expertise separates veterans and newcomers far too much. The grind to 30 is a slog, and being 30 gives you a massive advantage especially in places like DZ.

Just saying proto costs to upgrade without the ability to change them after is far too much, and Massive hasn't even said they're looking into it afiak so.

[pseudo tundra]

What did they say again on developer notes

[mellow trout]

I mean we just recently had a triple xp event for it

Which means we now have triple digits shd players who are max expertise

There was one last season as well but that was shorter

[pseudo tundra]

We also heard the community feedback about recalibration, and we will start to explore options to address this feedback in the future. However, as it was not part of the original design to have it with Prototype Gear, we don’t have a timeline for that yet.

From developer notes

[versed harbor]

Yea, and I'm ok with that. The expertise grind is dumb.

[real cypress]

half baked feature

[versed harbor]

In other words, it MAY happen but in Massive time so not any time soon.

[real cypress]

pushed out in this state to farm player retention

[versed harbor]

The fact they did not prepare for people to be upset spending this much crafting materials lol it's kind of insane. Makes you feel like they give 0 F's about our time.

[left ravine]

100% on point. They do not know or don't care what the community likes about this game, apparently

[inner tendon]

Oh good, we're still on this drama.

[pseudo tundra]

Well summit was considered so horrible that people thought the game had no one working on it got reworked, countdown had no difficulty, expertise got changed multiple times

[left ravine]

Ofc we are. It will not go away like that

[versed harbor]

I suppose we can just push it under the rug and hate the game we love? Idk what you want.

[inner tendon]

It's being updated on the 21st, it's not going to be "swept under the rug", or whatever other dramatic statements people want to use.

[real cypress]

hey guys this is my 67th post about why prototype gear is bad, ill not mention anything new about it and just regurgitate everything bad about it that has been said for the last 20 posts

[inner tendon]

There's a wide difference between constructive criticism, and just saying over and over "game ded".

[pseudo tundra]

If they said nothing about changing the system then sure complaining would be more valid

[left ravine]

Whatever it takes to get heard

[pseudo tundra]

If changes were already announced just have to wait for them

[versed harbor]

I thought I kinda was being constructive? Idk if you read my messages from before, I was absolutely not just saying "Lol Deadstiny."

[inner tendon]

This is not constructive in the least.

[real cypress]

im just complaining that they released prototype gear in this state despite some push back from testers or something

content creators were like "wow amazing system 10/10"

[inner tendon]

It's in fact, destructive.

[versed harbor]

That was the very last thing I said from a few other critiques but you read what you wanna read.

[pseudo tundra]

Oh PTS feedback have always been bad, in the sense they happen so close to season that they only get fixed like a season and a half.later

[real cypress]

in my perfect world escalation could have been legendary difficulty... and thats good enough coz i never felt like we were underpowered in endgame

[inner tendon]

Escalation isn't about us being underpowered in endgame, it's the exact opposite.

[pseudo tundra]

From another game that had a similar game mode, starting bellow the hardest work better as warm up

[pseudo tundra]

They meant more that we are strong enough that legendary feels where the starting point, starting bellow sounds redundant

But i think it gives more variety of missions and factions to do

And then number scalling becomes bigger that starting with legendary would make tier 3 already a extreme nightmare

Still think a surprise white tusk spawn would be a good modifier to add

But it appears their spawns are a bit finnicky considering how they are used

[real cypress]

honest to god escalation t5-7 still feels easy compared to leg because can you imagine black tusk on escalation lobbing grenades cross map like its cod mw2 grenade spawn killing

[hollow reef]

I feel like escalation is a good example of devs running out of ideas.

[mellow trout]

im of the volition that escalation is still easier then legendary just because of how aggressive white tusk are

[pseudo tundra]

Well its made so people have to try harder and harder

[mellow trout]

and how the special archetypes are tuned to the max

[hollow reef]

Legendary Difficulty > Escalation

[mellow trout]

brain broke

[pseudo tundra]

Legendary isnharder than low escal, but easier than later

[bleak oracle]

did a legendary a few days ago after some t9 and 10 and we breezed through it

never cleared dua mall that quick before

[pseudo tundra]

Legendary was designed in a world pre busted striker

[hollow reef]

Theres more strategy in Legendary diff than Escalation imo. When there are Grenadier, and Drone Operator, you might want to focus on them first.

[wide jolt]

Probably because of the god awful modifiers in escalation

[bleak oracle]

thats definitely part of it, their hp is just a lot higher as well

[mellow trout]

legendary enemies dont have crazy hp values so theres that

[pseudo tundra]

Also their spawns are kinda customized to screw you over with unique enemy compositions

[wide jolt]

Oh you are trying to take cover in a cover based shooter, shock you

[bleak oracle]

arent legendary spawns set

[pseudo tundra]

Yeah

[hollow reef]

Yeah they're set but inexperienced players usually gets caught off guard when the White Tusks dropping in behind them.

Happens a lot in Roosevelt island.

[bleak oracle]

ah yea the plane part

[pseudo tundra]

Or having grenade dogs waaay back while rushers with shock nades and heavy are rushing you

[civic junco]

Shoot the knees

Trip the rushers up

[hollow reef]

Now that I think about it, in small map like District Union Arena, there are 2 sections where 3 tanks rushed in.

And those tanks got Stinger hive.

[real cypress]

genuinely hate black tusk coz they are just spamming nades with pin point accuracy and drones

but they feel like much more of a challenge compared to escalation w/ regular factions

[pseudo tundra]

I am just presenting scenarios that the group comp are important because its planned instead kf random

[civic junco]

Shoot the ammo links and they are toothless

[bleak oracle]

those sections are made easy with just dps

its like a funnel for them into your bullets

[mellow trout]

on their own chungas are trivial but like bird said the compositions are designed to be challenging

[hollow reef]

I dont think I want to touch Escalation ever again.

[real cypress]

t6 gives u 1 exo comp btw

but it has hot foot

[mellow trout]

beats playin normal heroic

[pseudo tundra]

Well thankfully stuff is going to get reworked

[hollow reef]

and so is heroic Retal.

[hollow reef]

Escalation?

[real cypress]

i never said it was a valid reason

[left ravine]

I'm sure they'll do it in the best way possible in favor of the community, right?

[bleak oracle]

surely its gonna get better than rn

[real cypress]

but otherwise its good to play 2-3 escalation matches... sometimes

[left ravine]

Well the more we are vocal about it, they more they realize that f-up and make changes

[pseudo tundra]

Prob

[hollow reef]

not

[pseudo tundra]

Dont have crystal ball, not going to make promissed in place of others

Countdown got reworks, summit got reworks

Its hard to find a game mode that didnt get rework

[left ravine]

True that

[civic junco]

PvP

[left ravine]

But it took time and people being vocal about it

[wraith ridge]

can you get stack broker and lexington from reconstructed caches?

[civic junco]

They need to rework PvP to bring back 16v16

[real cypress]

honestly could have just added leg difficulty to every mission and bonus modifiers that increased prototype drop chance + target loot instead of whatever this is

[left ravine]

You seem to misunderstand a thing here: legendary is all hand crafted. I don't think it's possible to easily recreate that via spawn point RNG and changed settings

[inner tendon]

I see what you mean 'Bird, and yeah weird Modifiers sound good, but honestly, I think that would just cause more complaints in the long run, and definitely more issues.
As they said before it's out though, this is a work-in-progress mode, it needed to come out when it did for whatever reason (no one here knows that reason, despite claims otherwise), and tweaks would be forth-coming. And yep, the 21st has some being announced.

[left ravine]

If you randomly add White Tusk somewhere it also wouldn't be balanced at all

[inner tendon]

That is correct, White Tusk are not capable of just being added to any area. It's why we don't have Legendary Open World.

[serene sky]

I have an issue with Retaliation. I've done like 10-15 retal recently and all I ever get is Descent comms. No blue prints

Is this a bug or intended? starting to piss me off.

[wide jolt]

Check your blueprint library and see if you got them all

[serene sky]

Nope. That's why I run Retal

[real cypress]

i always get at least 1 from either kill squads or the end

[pseudo tundra]

Yeah if you got a lot of rewards the menu doesnt properly show all of them

[wide jolt]

If not, it should tell you from where (either defend or kill squad) and from which faction you get it from

[inner tendon]

The blueprints are faction-specific, to be clear.

[serene sky]

I get some from Kill Squads, but NEVER from defending territory. And this is across all factions (I need BP from all factions). Maybe my RNG just sucks

[civic junco]

And not 100% as I still don't have Ravenous

[pseudo tundra]

And some kill squads are given on defeating them which can go by fast

Got ravenous in like 3 retal

[wide jolt]

Always check your blueprint table after a succesful retaliation completion.

[pseudo tundra]

But had to do more for the mats

[serene sky]

as long as it's not some intended feature/known bug I guess I'll just keep trying

[pseudo tundra]

What difficulty?

[serene sky]

Heroic

[mellow trout]

its 50/50 for completion blueprints

[left ravine]

+45% magazine size is max, right? (seasonal modifiers)

[mellow trout]

so id imagine its just bad luck

[pseudo tundra]

Yeah should be good, probably got them and menu didnt show due the amount of extra rewards

[wide jolt]

I know I am missing Diamondback (Black Tusk Defend) and Beacon chest (Rikers Kill squad, which I can get from the NY Kill Squad Cache)

[pseudo tundra]

Diamondback being in the BT just feels out of place

Always felt like an outcast vibe

[wide jolt]

This should help. Can keep track of what you need and what you already have

[hollow reef]

The owner of Diamondback is an Outcast.

[pseudo tundra]

Wasnt a crazy zoo keeper?

[serene sky]

is big al in LMG loot pool yet?

[pseudo tundra]

Yes

[hollow reef]

Blue Screen and BTSU Datagloves arent from BT looks funny.

[pseudo tundra]

Just regular LMG exotic drop

[civic junco]

There should be a way to turn targeted loot off in retal

[hollow reef]

Why?

[mellow trout]

why would you not want TL

[wide jolt]

why ?

[hollow reef]

You know you can just pick whatever.

[wide jolt]

They are already dropping loot (you cant turn that off). Might as well pick what you want them to drop

[pseudo tundra]

They have everything and dont care for anything

[wide jolt]

Pick as junk and sell

[civic junco]

I don't have everything but sometimes just getting loot at random would be nice

[hollow reef]

Then, dont play retal.

[wide jolt]

Bruh what ???

[hollow reef]

Reset your world so every control points belongs to the enemy, that way, you're fighting multiple factions as well.

[mellow trout]

??????????

[hollow reef]

Not just one.

[civic junco]

I reset my world all the time

[mellow trout]

not sure if youre aware but literally everywhere in the game has designated target loot in rotation

if you want the grind to be that hard go play div 1😭

[wide jolt]

Everywhere else on map - Targetted loot changes everyday
Summit, Countdown, Retaliation - You set your own targetted loot

[civic junco]

Div1 grind is way easier than this

[mellow trout]

never mind man

[wide jolt]

Even in that people farm specific sets during specific Global Events.
They are not even the same thing.

[civic junco]

It would be nice though

[inner tendon]

So you do and don't want Targeted Loot?

I guess you could play CD and pick the wrong thing?

[pseudo tundra]

Since nothing is targetted maybe something unusual might just appear out of pure random drop

[civic junco]

Just add a random loot button so that nothing is targeted. Even with TL you can go multiple runs and just deconstruct everything anyway

[pseudo tundra]

Thats what i understood i think

[glass talon]

Hello people how does one acquire le quickstep?

[pseudo tundra]

Ask for it and the bounty on #lfg-pc

[glass talon]

oh its from a bounty got it thanks

[charred hollow]

Anyone have over dogs and quick step they could possibly drop for me?

[mellow trout]

loot cant be traded

you can only drop stuff for people who are in your group when the item drops, and within 1 hour of playtime

[charred hollow]

If they acquire it while I’m in the group they can share it with me right?

[mellow trout]

yes

[charred hollow]

That’s what I’m wanting

[inner tendon]

You can find a hand down in #lfg-xbox, or using the in-console matchmaking.

[civic junco]

le Quickstep is easy I gave a few of those away tonight, you might find it faster to hunt the blueprint for Overdogs though as that is less common

[pseudo tundra]

Its more that people have to get lucky and share, not directly hand you from just getting there

Quickstep should be easy

[earnest trellis]

Is Flatline better than Streamline?

[civic junco]

Where do Overdogs drop now is that world loot?

[earnest trellis]

I mean, Flatline counts as Amplified dmg, where as Streamline is total weapon dmg

[glass talon]

is there any chance you still have some left?

[civic junco]

not tonight, going to bed in a min but I'll be on tomorrow if you haven't gotten it by then, usually only take a couple runs at most to get

[glass talon]

all g ill keep an eye out have a good one

[pseudo tundra]

Go to #lfg-pc

[fickle ravine]

no, streamline is weapon damage, not total weapon damage. that's the reason why the 42% is actually a lot worse than it looks at first

streamline just adds onto your AWD + SWD, but TWD is a separate bucket

[earnest trellis]

So I guess flatline it is then?

[pseudo tundra]

Are you using tech or pulse constantly?

[earnest trellis]

Laserlink

[fickle ravine]

you need to keep the enemies pulsed, which means LLP, which means tech spec, which means you lose 5% CHC, can't use any short barrel weapons, and no gunner spec benefits

[pseudo tundra]

Then flatline is fine

[fickle ravine]

it's definitely not bad but imo something like measured would be just more convenient

especially considering that LLP likes to misbehave

[earnest trellis]

Wut categories does measured falls into?

[strange harbor]

Mathwise streamlined is better. But not using skills is really handicapping.
I don't like flatlined because the lazer may decide to stop working randomly.

[desert thunder]

I'm going to ask the division community "Do you think say by next month that they'll give out prototype gear like how they made it where new players were allowed to boost to level 40 without playing the whole game?

[pseudo tundra]

I like streamline on AK since number go big

[mellow trout]

No

[pseudo tundra]

I honestly dont understand thr question

[mellow trout]

For the umpteenth time, prototype gear is designed to be the endgame of the endgame

It is not a system intended for new players

[pseudo tundra]

That said i ser more people low SHD than high level farming

People between 0-299 SHD

[earnest trellis]

But then if u use streamlined, u cant use any skills

[fickle ravine]

they already addressed that

[earnest trellis]

So I guess streamlined suited for LMGs and Flatline suited for AR then?

[strange harbor]

I tried to explain to a person like that (SHD 250 ish) in my server but they just refused to listen.

[pseudo tundra]

Escalation?

[strange harbor]

Yeah

[fickle ravine]

are you referring to shield

[pseudo tundra]

They were able to hold their own they were fine

[earnest trellis]

Yes

[fickle ravine]

you generally don't even want a shield at very high difficulties

[pseudo tundra]

Streamline for weapons with big damage

If brazen didnt exist it might been busted for shotguns

[earnest trellis]

Ik, but then again, I use shield as a emergency cover

Not as a Frontline tanking

[fickle ravine]

streamline means you can't use stuff like decoy, emp sticky, banshee pulse, foam chem

not having these skills to take the heat off of you will hurt you a lot more than you will realize

[strange harbor]

At the end of the day, they can do whatever they want with matchmaking.

[pseudo tundra]

you can probalby use it in a weird streamline + sadist OD build thinkerer

[blazing ruin]

**asking for opinion: **should i switch from tipping scale + Big Alejandro + Overdog
to Striker ? they said Striker "Weapon hits increase total weapon damage by 0.65%, stacking up to 100 times. 1 stack lost per second between 0 and 50; 2 stacks lost per second between 51 and 100" is better than Tipping Scale

[pseudo tundra]

both are very good

[fickle ravine]

striker and TS are similar, they just have different gameplay

[pseudo tundra]

tipping scales doenst need to hit to get stacks, striker does

strikes buffs every damage and not just crits

[blazing ruin]

TS got that LMG dmg that is why i hesitate

[pseudo tundra]

considering that big al has insane rof and magazine, it makes getting striker stacks absurdly fast

[fickle ravine]

that LMG damage is not as valuable as you might think

[blazing ruin]

ohh

[fickle ravine]

lmg damage is additive with all weapon damage and specific weapon damage, it's not as significant as it seems

[strange harbor]

A x B x B = C x B x A
Order doesn't matter 😑

[fickle ravine]

...frick did i forget basic math

[slim elk]

sir, it's all multipliers, order doesn't matter

[fickle ravine]

yup i forgot basic math. i hate myself

[slim elk]

don't hate yourself, let me hate you instead for not using NBB FB

[fickle ravine]

is this why i keep getting a B in all of my calculus midterms so far

[real cypress]

despite TS being rly good for lmgs...

i just used strikers with lmgs instead coz spraying with the mk46 is fun

[blazing ruin]

ohh ... i may switch as well.

should i change Shirt>

[real cypress]

funnily enough, strikers lmg with the chest offers you competitive damage with TS

also more consistent to stack up but maybe not the best way to run it in case someone points that out

[fickle ravine]

the big issue with TS imo is that you need to stay still, you gain stacks at a fixed rate, and you lose stacks really fast

[fickle ravine]

use equalizer chest, and drop the blue core on your knees

[slim elk]

that blue core is there for emotional support

[real cypress]

yuh lmgs can roll 9.5% chc on the third attribute so u should get the equalizer chest

and get rid of the blue core lmao that aint helping u in any situation and ur not running a shield

[slim elk]

btw, you need 60% CHC on TS, it's a must

[blazing ruin]

hahaha ...

[fickle ravine]

doesn't TS give you like 592859359258485000% 350% CHD or something

the 13% from grupo isn't going to help much, because of dImNiShInG rEtUrNs

[blazing ruin]

well i copy this youtuber build .. nad he put armor on

[fickle ravine]

div 2 yt is full of bad advice

[slim elk]

diminisukahowbsyoqbgsownsvdlsvsoakgsasgwnspudgskdijhwbdidgsbkdj returns blyat

[real cypress]

honestly ceska is just more valuable back then coz it was +10% chc and grupo was 15% chd

crit was like 1:2 ratio

i think its still is coz its 8% chc right while grupo is still 15%

[blazing ruin]

where can i find equalizer chest

[real cypress]

hop on countdown, set unit alloys to targeted loot, good luck

its very easy to drop with essential rolls fyi compared to ceska obliterate

[fickle ravine]

grupo is 13%

[real cypress]

doodoo

now i just run equalizer coz i like ROF

[blazing ruin]

can i do retaliation and TL on chest ?

[real cypress]

no just do TL on UA, its more narrow

you have like 30+ potential chests that can drop compared to 6 gear pieces in UA

[fickle ravine]

only time you want to TL the item type is if you have no option (all weapons) or if you're looking for an exotic

[blazing ruin]

er what is UA

[fickle ravine]

unit alloys

[real cypress]

unit alloys, the brand set. equalizer is a named item from the UA brand set

[fickle ravine]

i cling to the sacrifice

[real cypress]

shore

i just like not dying to a sneeze

[fickle ravine]

beach

[real cypress]

mean 😔

[slim elk]

whoa

sir is corrupted- makes sense

[blazing ruin]

ok. so if i switch to striker should i use striker chest? or not need? due to Increases max stacks of Striker's Gamble from 100 to 200. 3 stacks lost per second between 101 and 200 stacks.

[slim elk]

nope, you cannot maintain all 200 stacks outside of Incursion and Escalation

[blazing ruin]

ok understand.

time to grind retaliation then lol.

[real cypress]

the only time u need the chest is when ur playing in contents with tons of bullet sponges

otherwise just use equalizer + overdogs is the most common combo

since everyone is using overdogs, im now the only remaining population who still runs coyote in group cd matches

[blazing ruin]

thank thank for all advice everyone

[fickle ravine]

i run no exotic gear pieces

[winter mason]

After updating, game size is 96.7 GB dang

[real cypress]

madman

[slim elk]

except when I'm in your group, Birdies is always there for me

[fickle ravine]

i forgo the striker backpack

exotic gear pieces make it hard for me to hotswap to birdies

[real cypress]

u dont need birdies if team does not go down

[fickle ravine]

unfortunately i always get grouped with idiots, including me, im also a massive idiot

[clever fjord]

Running no exotic pieces to hotswap to any exotic ❤️‍🩹

[cloud topaz]

How do you restart a mission, this guide said restart it from the map screen

I can't see that option. It's a mission I'm currently playing and I want to keep restarting it to kill the first 4 guys

[left ravine]

Open map, hover mouse over mission location, press and hold G, select difficulty again

[cloud topaz]

Ok thanks

I'm trying to finish journey stage 4

[lofty arrow]

would farming countdown or retaliation have better chances at dropping me overdogs

[candid sand]

depends on what you like more . if u have a full team of friends or known people who all focus for gloves and drop it for you if they get it , countdown works . we did our 30 expertise that way . just dropped everything for one person and they leveled up a lot in a week. got most exotics that way .

[lofty arrow]

I have no friends so I'm assuming retaliation is the way

[candid sand]

but for overdogs hyena retaliation completions have a decent chance. my friend was doing it for a week straight getting all the other exotics

only got it yesterday

[lofty arrow]

got it thanks how do you trigger a retaliation

[blazing ruin]

💀 er is doing retaliation now got disconnect ..

[candid sand]

open map move over to retaliation tab and if anything is over 100% it will let you launch it .

[lofty arrow]

I mean whats the best consistent way to get it to 100%

mine is all at 0% with true sons being 20%

[candid sand]

kill the guys from the faction u want

[lofty arrow]

oh alright

[candid sand]

there's also a daily agitation project for a random faction

[lofty arrow]

can you select tl on retaliations

[candid sand]

you can see which can be done and the progress it has .then kill the ones you need to progress it higher and once it gets to 100% u can launch it . also if u are matchmaking , do it before u launch it . check in the matchmaking menu. retaliation has a tab for it on the list . matchmake for retaliation and you can do the teammates retaliations too. like you only have true sons but need hyenas* and the matchmade person has hyenas* , ask them and activate that so u have a chance at overdogs.

[lofty arrow]

wait cleaners can drop overdogs too?

[candid sand]

ah my bad , meant to type hyenas . sorry

[hasty sentinel]

does anyone know what the capacitor does for shields?

[stoic axle]

not much other than use any Skill cores you have for wpnDmg

as you cannot use the reflect shield with an AR

[acoustic jolt]

i optimized attributes once and now I can’t optimize it again why?

[left ravine]

Ran out of mats maybe?

Also don't confuse optimization with recalibration

[acoustic jolt]

I have mats but it tells me ( slot attributes needs to be extracted)

[left ravine]

Oh you don't have said attribute in your library yet. Extract it from another piece

[acoustic jolt]

Ohh i got it now thank you man👍🏻

[calm harbor]

How do i get pfe mods?

[slim elk]

you dont

[calm harbor]

what u mean

they not in game anymore?

[oblique fjord]

The game decides for you

[slim elk]

they are a rare type of mods so you cant specifically target them

[calm harbor]

i have not got a single one

[lofty horizon]

Around a month ago you could buy 12% in the shop

And a couple years ago there was a bug that allowed all mods to be maxed, they never reverted accounts

So some people have maxed of every single mod and they never stopped them

[humble knot]

am i right in assuming that when people specify 300% retaliation they mean the 3 circles filled up? or is there another mechanic to retaliation that i'm missing. still new to endgame so havent run that many of them

[somber spoke]

there a way to dcrease the artificier skill refresh time from 13 seconds?

[humble knot]

wondering because i'm going to attempt doing heroic ones soon and i'd probably want to lfg for those if able

[somber spoke]

yes

[humble knot]

thank you

[blazing ruin]

👍 💀 done farm

good melt so far after testing

[somber spoke]

there any way to increase the speed at which artificer hive heals my shield?

[blazing ruin]

oh understand .. what is prototype gear. but such a shtty stat

[ivory stratus]

Just rerolled sheriff and got all 3 perks maxed, do i keep (3rd is headshot dmg) or do I just sacrifice and gamba dttooc

[slim elk]

dtoc always

[ivory stratus]

i know thats the worst part

[blazing ruin]

what is dttoc

[slim elk]

did u just reach lvl40?

[blazing ruin]

yeah .. i just play like 1 week ago

[slim elk]

read the Lvl40 Starters Guide

btw it's short for DMG to Target Out of Cover

[blazing ruin]

💀

[blazing ruin]

oh yes i had it open now also

[hollow reef]

I've got an absurd favor to ask. Can anyone create a GIF where Weasel, Dizzy, or Ricochet doing the EMP grenade animation? They're the 2nd bosses in Dark Hours raid.

[wide patrol]

question can paradise lost be farm for proto cores or no?

[nimble spruce]

Yes, but only once per week per character

[wide patrol]

cool

[hollow reef]

Both raids as well right?

[dim pewter]

yes

So basically 12 Proto Caches or w/e theyre called

Actually even more

[feral karma]

unlimited if you keep making new characters

but im pretty sure the cores dont get shared between characters so only good for upgrading to proto

[nimble spruce]

You can move your proto gear through the stash though if you want to use them to upgrade/reroll augments

[lapis mauve]

Is T10 escalation worth it or is it better to farm T5

[dim pewter]

T10 is not worth it unless you're a masochist

[nimble spruce]

Entirely up to you, depends what you enjoy, how well equipped and capable you are.
I'm lazy and farm T3 solo to keep things relaxed

[strange harbor]

If the team can handle it in a reasonable time, yes. My team can consistently clear T10 in 30 minutes.

[dim pewter]

That.. does not sound worth it

[lean hare]

whats this ?

[dim pewter]

Seasonal Modifier

[steep void]

anybody tried one shot on T5 with this event? worked wonderfully well in tidal leg

[lean hare]

which one should i keep ?

[steep void]

none

[hollow reef]

None, go get Dtooc.

[lean hare]

👀

[lean hare]

whats Dtooc

[hollow reef]

What SMG is that btw?

[hollow reef]

Damage to target out of cover.

[lean hare]

interchange

[steep void]

if named item then keep first one and change optimal to dtooc

[hollow reef]

Oh yeah thats a good idea. Its a named item.

Just change the sub attribute then optimize the rest.

[lean hare]

what about this one. this overdogs

[vague hedge]

If I get killed by a hunter when doing the mask challenges. Is my best bet to just lie here and call for backup? So he doesnt respawn?

[timber eagle]

No reset, always something lol

[inner tendon]

If everyone in the group dies during a Hunter Puzzle attempt, the Hunter will smoke-bomb despawn.

You'll then have to re-do the entire Hunt from the start.

If you're having trouble killing them at the end, try turning the World Difficulty down, you still get the Key+Mask if it's on Normal.

[vague hedge]

Pretty sure Ive done it before where I just stay on the ground until someone comes

[inner tendon]

Maybe you got lucky, maybe I got unlucky.
Regardless: it's best to not rely on it.

[vague hedge]

I can usually just melt them but this time I got set on fire and died haha

[honest dome]

guys does the %60 crit chance cap include the crit chance from the weapon attachments ? like I have %52.9 crit chance rn in my stats page and I have %15 crit chance coming from attachments is my total %67.9 or its capped at %60 ?

[hollow reef]

yeah its capped at 60%

Might want to change two CHC stats from two of your gears to CHD.

[honest dome]

oh I seee

[nimble spruce]

It's a hard cap that includes everything, can only be bypassed by 'guaranteed crit' talents like diamondback, or the occasional 'redline overdrive' event

[ivory stratus]

is railsplitter worth keeping or just nah

[craggy rune]

Bit of a targetted loot question.

For those that are already expertise 30 (don't need to target gear mods for PF for proficiency), what is your targetted loot setup?

Is it basically to rotate between:

• Weapons for receiver comps & (+ Steel)
• Gear Sets for Protective Fabric and 🔵 mats (+ Ceramics)

[hollow reef]

Most endgame players are farming in escalation i think

[nimble spruce]

Depends what I want. If I haven't expertised a new season's brandset/gearset then I'll target that for donation, otherwise whatever I can deconstruct for whichever materials I need, if there's anything I need.

[craggy rune]

So I'm at that stage where I'm level 30 expertise, but I'm grinding mats to get my optimal loadouts to 30

Once I've done that then I'm into escalation for those prototype cores

[limpid agate]

Does anyone have some tips for getting the last few expertise levels? Currently only missing expertise on named items/exotics and some skills.

[nimble spruce]

Farming mini warhounds in the Houndsman bounty can help with named items, some can be crafted, otherwise equipping them or donating materials would be best

[limpid agate]

Alright thank you.

[agile swift]

Are true son retals generally the best method to farm steel, running very low on that stuff

[nimble spruce]

@winter elk this would not be a good place to ask - see #rules 6

[atomic barn]

if i need chainkiller do i target the set or the chest?

[inner tendon]

If you need a named item, always target the brand.

"type" is for Exotics only, basically.

[austere wren]

is there difference in summit between challenging / heroic for loot? im looking to farm backpack so if its today's set loot theres more chance for exotic backpacks right?

[robust sedge]

Hey you know if this overdrive event also works for raids? What about descent?

[mellow trout]

Couple of things

1- Summit has selectable target loot, so you don't have to wait for something to be in rotation there

2- the same is true for countdown and retaliations which are both infinitely more efficient

3- yes, higher difficulties have higher exotic drop rates

But most exotics you get will come from targeted loot drops which are a separate drop pool

[daring edge]

directives also help drop rate

[mellow trout]

For TL yes

[austere wren]

Thank you
Yeah i keep hearing that retallation and countdown are better because more enemies spawn but i didnt know that target loot is separate pool

[vague hedge]

Is there XP even now? No?

[left ravine]

No

You can check the Events Timeline in-game for running and upcoming events

[deep ingot]

next month i'd assume a xp event would be coming

[vague hedge]

Have I understood it correctly if I think that I need to play with alot of different gear to max out my expertise level to 30?

[nimble spruce]

Yes

Or donate gear and mats to level stuff without using it

[vague hedge]

I donate everything I find atm

[deep ingot]

huge advice, only donate mats to gear that you cannot physically access (rare exotics/named items from events)

[vague hedge]

How many items do I need to max out to get 30?

[deep ingot]

like 415-425 items

[nimble spruce]

All except maybe 10-20

[deep ingot]

seems like alot, but it is intended to be a grind and not very fast.

i hit 30 prof at 1800 SHD just playing my cards right and making sure i was farming during 3x xp events

[vague hedge]

And Prototype gear is locked behind it?

[deep ingot]

yes and no, you can find proto gear and equip it

BUT you cannot turn your gear into a proto piece until you hit expertise 30

alot of low shd players think Proto gear is the end all be all. but its just for the already endgame players to slightly increase their numbers

you do not need proto gear to clear all of the content in division 2 at all.

[pseudo tundra]

You can farm for proto, you cant upgrade regular stuff to proto until you get expertise 30

[storm bronze]

So I wanted to ask, if I were to play division 2 on for example PS4 (or any other console) is there aim assist (as in for console controllers) or not really?

[earnest pawn]

What's the most effect way to collect exotic part?

[hollow reef]

Heroic retaliation.

[bleak oracle]

priority objectives

[earnest pawn]

is it playable with solo? i heard retaliation is for party

[bleak oracle]

Yes but priority objective is just better

no needing to grind agitation and have 3 chances to roll away bad objectives you don’t want

[hollow reef]

Oh right my bad, forgot about priority objective.

[bleak oracle]

If there’s no exotic reward just pick the shortest one to do

[hollow reef]

+60% Headshot damage
+30% Weapon damage
+40% Accuracy
+40% Stability
+40% Weakpoint damage

From Overdrive event, is the +30% weapon damage worth 2 red cores?

I also heard the +30% Weapon Damage from expertise is only worth around 1 red core.

[nimble spruce]

Weapon damage is additive with other weapon damage, how much it is 'worth' depends how much you have already, the more you stack the more diluted it gets

[nimble spruce]

So this sentence doesn't really make sense as both are the same type of damage, 30 expertise is worth exactly the same as 2 red cores but neither will give you 30% more damage in total

[hollow reef]

So the 30% weapon damage from expertise always worth 2 red cores?

[nimble spruce]

Yes

But that's less than the 30% amp damage you'd get from overdogs or perfect glass cannon, for instance

[hollow reef]

Different bucket?

[nimble spruce]

Correct

[hollow reef]

Or uh... whats the term, multiplicative?

[nimble spruce]

Each bucket is multiplicative with every other bucket, amps like glass cannon always get their own unique bucket

Things like dtooc have small buckets so although they're additive in some senses, they never get very dilute compared to the big buckets (weapon damage, crit, headshot)

[hollow reef]

Ah ok thanks for explaining.

[nimble spruce]

It gets a bit weirder (eg striker or heartbreaker stacks all go in one bucket but intimidate stacks go a single stack per bucket) but you get the general gist. Crit and headshot actually share the same bucket.

[kindred ledge]

So I basically need to make 16 items proficient to be expertise 30 (basically only exotics left).
What would be the fastest way to just farm proficiency exp? I know you get proficiency exp by just killing stuff, doing objectives and so on. What would be the most efficient way? (I hope its not countdown, sick of that mode)

[cobalt sedge]

(It's countdown)

[fallen breach]

@kindred ledge donate resource

[north pier]

Do retals on heroic.

Targeted loot set to mods, deconstruct the mods for printer filaments and donate.

Retals also give one exotic each after completion. You either get lucky and donate or scrap for exotic components to use for proficiency upgrades.

Better than countdown in my opinion.

[cobalt sedge]

Countdown you can slap a few garbage items on to level up as you go

[north pier]

With the global event, you can make a few more weapons viable as well so you can use those shit-ass exotics.

[cobalt sedge]

While also getting equivalent or more in printer filaments

[north pier]

The guy is sick of countdown.

So am I. I found retals more enjoyable and the amount of drops to time invested is very similar.

[cobalt sedge]

Donating exotics sounds insane to do, but you are right you get a lot more exotic components from them. He also asked for the most efficient way!

[calm harbor]

Is headshot dmg bugged atm?

[cobalt sedge]

Unfortunately the most efficient way isn't necessarily the most enjoyable, so you gotta sacrifice one or the other

[calm harbor]

i have -48% hsd on my striker build

nvm relog fixed it

[kindred ledge]

Ya Countdown might be better but honestly im sick of countdown so @north pier recommendation is kind of a nice toss up for inbetween, ty for the ideas guys

[north pier]

Does anybody know if muting people on global chat is permanent? Does it persist forever?

[cobalt sedge]

Just bring your best stuff instead of worrying about levelling things, put a buncha directives on at heroic and juice your watch so you can turn the salvage points into stuff to donate if you really wanna go faster

[north pier]

Do not use watch to get materials for donations. That's a waste.

[cobalt sedge]

'if you really wanna go faster', there's an important caveat there. Can turn it into credits to buy mods to turn into filament to donate

[north pier]

Really not worth it. Terrible reward ratio.

Watch should be for SHD calibration primarily, FRD secondary if needed.

[kindred ledge]

Might also be a great idea
I think in the end it will be a mix of everything, i was just sick of running countdowns all day

[cobalt sedge]

You gotta read whole sentences my dude

[north pier]

.... Whatever you say.

[kindred ledge]

all good guys we chilling, I just needed some inspo to mix up stuff, you helped me a lot already, thank you

[sleek yacht]

anyone know wher i can find the snitch today?

[cobalt sedge]

https://division2map.com/

I like to go to the american history museum, turn around and go into the park, go right and around the round building and he's usually behind there. Works right after logging in

[craggy harness]

why is my healing so much less when in smart cover?

ravenous bonus armor doesnt cause the issue

[left ravine]

There were plenty bug with smart cover, IDK what was fixed and what not.

[craggy harness]

for some reason it halfs the repair over time of the che mlauncher

like wtf is this spagetthi 😭

[sleek yacht]

do you only have to find the snitch one time or is it every time the vendor is open? sorry kinda new

also anywhere to find a lexington/

[random field]

do we have a full back dye?

and if so how do i get it :p

[lean hare]

finally !!

last att is dmg to armor is it good or need to change it ?

[craggy harness]

kill all NY hunters

[vernal loom]

That’s good but you want it with damage to out of cover.

[lean hare]

ill change it later

[vernal loom]

Also make sure u work on that proficiency if you really like that AR.

[random field]

how do i check how many ive killed

[craggy harness]

check your mask/key collection in the NY base

[inner tendon]

@random field Go to Haven in NYC, downstairs where the barber is, there's a wall nearby with the WONY Masks on them.

Same with DC in the server room, and in Brooklyn.

[random field]

💔 not even 1 i guess

[umbral ore]

Where's the best place to get the gun "bullet king"

[left ravine]

Any activity with TL or exo caches/items as reward

[umbral ore]

TL?

[left ravine]

Targeted loot

[umbral ore]

Ah nice ill have a look thank you. I need to set the TL to LMG right?

[left ravine]

Correct

[umbral ore]

Thank you for helping

[left ravine]

Any time

[umbral ore]

Ive just got back into the game. SHD level 113. Running a 4 piece core strength build currently and bittersweet/lightweight M4

[left ravine]

I would not recommend CS in PvE, honestly. It's a fun way to play hybrid builds but later on it will reach its limits really quick

[grand mountain]

Err I just done the level 40 boost I have no idea what to do now someone help

Idek what specialisation to use

[left ravine]

Just create a new character and start over if you want to

[grand mountain]

Wouldn’t that just waste my level 40 character tho

[random field]

so another question

is it better to buy the ultimate edition or brooklyn deluxe (i have base game+wofnw)

[inner tendon]

You can keep it as an alt character, free inventory space!

[inner tendon]

Ultimate Edition comes with 1k of the Premium Currency too, which is the full price of a single Season Pass.

Just get it on heavy sale.

[random field]

ye that was the plan but was confused which to get thanks

[slim elk]

boosts have infinite uses

[grand mountain]

Ohhh…

[umbral ore]

Any recommendations?

[left ravine]

I usually advocate for full red DPS builds. IDK what you like playing

[umbral ore]

Neither do I 🤣🤣🤣

I like assault rifles thats all ive ever used

[left ravine]

I'll ping you in #td2-build-advice in a moment

[warm drift]

THis might be a dumb question. I saw attribute increases for the event this weekend. I fired it up this morning. I didn't notice a change at all when using a sniper. I noticed a change when using AR or LMG. Is there something I'm missing? With sniper I'm seeing the same damage numbers as two days ago.

[left ravine]

HSD def increased

[fallow cradle]

How do yall increase the bt retals to full

[pseudo tundra]

make sure no other retaliation is active

[left ravine]

Invaded missions, Tidal Basin, bounties

[pseudo tundra]

bounties

[fallow cradle]

BT bounties?

[pseudo tundra]

y

[left ravine]

That too; you can only have one faction active

[fallow cradle]

active, like the full one only or what

[left ravine]

Si, red ring around it

For instance I cannot get any other Retaliation other than Hyena atm

But I can stack Hyena Retaliations up to three times

[fallow cradle]

Aight i get it, means only the red ring that needs to be cleared first b4 doing the other

[acoustic jolt]

How can i get (rock n roll) shotgun ?

[left ravine]

DZ, named item caches, blueprint from Reconstructed Caches, mini warhounds from Houndsman bounty

[acoustic jolt]

What about conflict cache?

[left ravine]

Maybe, not sure rn

[low mulch]

How do i make black tusk retaliate if they are nowhere on the map? Is there any way?

[left ravine]

#ask-td2-community message

[mild herald]

does matchmaking taking long is normal?

[left ravine]

Descent is a dead game mode

[mild herald]

in terms of players? or content or both?

[left ravine]

#lfg-pc try your luck there

[mild herald]

is it doable solo?

[left ravine]

Sure

[fluid night]

I'm fairly new since getting back into the game since release, I have a few questions regarding what to do

What is a solid roadmap on what to farm to increase my overall toons capability to do all (most) content?

Currently lvl 47 SHD watch
Have a strikers build w/ St Elmo's (not maxed/optimized for the build its just something I'm wearing rn)
Trying to get season journey done
Should I be farming other builds right now as well?

Pretty much just asking for a TLDR on what I should farm and what order to it in to maximize my character faster --- if possible

ANY information would be appreciated bc these guides I'm reading and all that are all over the place

Thank you to anyone that can help

[left ravine]

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1Tc2UDqrX0vBw-f18opih3idHlueXN7ca2HSEP_yAZDM/edit?tab=t.0

This should answer a bunch of your initial questions

[fluid night]

Thats huge thank you so much

[low mulch]

But im asking the community, tf u mean?

[fluid night]

As for the SHD watch level should I just do that passively or should I actively exp farm for levels at times? Sorry to bother

[winter crypt]

It’s a forward

Click the blue and it send you to your answer.

[left ravine]

I linked you the answer

[low mulch]

Ooooo

I'm sorry then

[left ravine]

Accepted, all good

[torn hemlock]

Stupid question but how to add people on pc version

[ivory stratus]

Is it 1 prototype core to upgrade something from expertise 30 to prototype?

[slim elk]

yes

[somber spoke]

What do you mean

[bleak oracle]

Add them on ubisoft connect

[kindred mason]

Im testing out different weapon talents for a dps build, is there a way to get stats on how much dmg you did after a mission? Or do I just have to pay attention during the mission?

[quaint dock]

Does anyone know if Rock n Roll can still drop from named caches?

[cedar stag]

after it concludes wait around for a sec then hold z

to show the past activity or w/e

[civic junco]

I just record the mission and then play it back and add all the numbers up in the Calculator App.

[pseudo tundra]

yes, any named DZ item can drop from them

[warm salmon]

there's a dps calculator in the pins of #td2-build-advice

i wouldn't rely too much on the post mission numbers, a mission with more enemies would have a higher damage number(not to mention the overflow)

[pseudo tundra]

and not sure if it counts overkill damage

[wispy merlin]

it doesn't

[alpine sedge]

guys i can o get fast to shd 1000 ?

[stray cobalt]

I want to activate my recombinant, but I dont know how to. It says I need to do some journey mission

[civic junco]

I'm embarrassed to say this but it took me a google search to find this

That is where you activate it

[stray cobalt]

I don't mean the bench. I mean how do I acticate the modifiers. It says I need to do journey missions

[civic junco]

Then do the missions

[stray cobalt]

I played 30 hours since the season pass and havent found it yet

Sorry I don't know which missions. There is no journey category for me

[civic junco]

You need to complete Journey 6

[stray cobalt]

Does it give me any benefit, this recombination? I will just skip it if it does not give extra damage?

[civic junco]

Watch that

That's where the missions are

[stray cobalt]

ah thank you. It seesm I have not finished much. Do I get any advantage when I do the recombination?

[civic junco]

Yeah there are a bunch of diffferent bonuses

[trail bobcat]

What does that number mean?

[civic junco]

Commendation Score

[trail bobcat]

How do you raise it? Sorry I’m new

[proven rock]

Who is this hunter, I dont remember there one being here

[proven rock]

Complete achievements (commendations) and in return u get patches

[tawny wagon]

Look at progression -> commendations.

[trail bobcat]

Thank you

[kindred mason]

Is there a way to turn off the "Recommended Activity: Projects" thing? It annoys me how it keeps showing up

[mild herald]

is there a way to level up gear ? or is it level locked?

[civic junco]

Apparently you have to claim them because I just went from 570 to 1365 lol. I haven't been keeping up with my orange marks

[mild herald]

like from level 25 to 30 or something

[bleak oracle]

if youre still lvl 30 you find better gear as you level up

[mild herald]

but is it possible?

[bleak oracle]

generally no

[mild herald]

what to do with the old gear? deconstruct or sell?

[potent shard]

I accidentally deleted my main character. Is it possible to restore it? Has this happened to anyone before, and was it successfully restored?

[bleak oracle]

i would probably deconstruct

[civic junco]

Holy moly I had a whole bunch of unclaimed commendations

[stray cobalt]

I joined countdown on challenging by accident, usually I always run on Heroic. Someone said that you never run on Heroic, only on challenger, the rewards are the same he said. Is that true? The item rols were worse in my opinion

[deep ingot]

countdown is a xp farm simulator, if everyone has random gear on to level up and no real builds, then playing heroic will only get you killed/waste time

its more efficient to run challenging and get in and out fast, heroic you have to kill hunters which alot of player still die too even on challenging