ask-td2-community

[narrow kraken]

Last part literally send a whole mini nuke on the map rofl

[narrow matrix]

I wanted to see that cannon in action ngl

Same with tidal basin story if u fail

[narrow kraken]

Yeah the vague what ifs would be so cool

Keener's end lets you see the gun at least shooting if my memory is correct

[narrow matrix]

They could have also done the roasts from MW2 when u die or fail 😂

[narrow kraken]

Oh god imagine dz with voicelines

💀

[narrow matrix]

Need to be toxic fr

[raw elk]

Really dumb question but doing the raid ( don't know if that is Iron Horse or not ) does it give you specific rewards or currencies like CD does ?

[narrow kraken]

Not really

Iron horse gives you a unique material for crafting the regulus but thats about it

[narrow matrix]

Just keys really

If you keep farming the raid

And I forget if its a 1% chance per boss per run and 10% box chance for rav per run or only first clear

[narrow kraken]

Per run im p sure but it does feel like first clear only sometimes lol

[narrow matrix]

I see the regulus pieces and get excited

[raw elk]

what was the regulus again? 😅

[rugged stratus]

Blueprints associated with the raids as well, right?

[narrow kraken]

On first clear yeah

[raw elk]

i meant it more as what weapon is it if it is a weapon ? ^^

[narrow kraken]

A revolver

I think highest damage on sidearm category? Not sure

[raw elk]

Oh ok thank you for clarifying 😄

Can we dye items from the store?

[narrow kraken]

Depends on the item, some allows you some doesn't

[pale pier]

anyone else kicked from countdown over and over?

[narrow kraken]

What shd lvl are you?

[pale pier]

almost 50

[narrow kraken]

Yep, people tend to kick low shd level players because they expect you to be clueless or not do enough damage to break through the extraction

A solution is to create your own countdown and then matchmake for people to join instead so you can't be kicked

[pale pier]

unfortunately people also leave immedately

[narrow kraken]

Ah then idk, what build are you using atm and how optimized on a 1%-100% is it you'd say?

[pale pier]

i have the relector shield build, gathering stuff for a oneshot shotgun firewall build

i do have the scorpion for doing debuffs

[narrow kraken]

Idk if one shotting things on countdown is possible at least on heroic cd,

Scorpio is nice for hunter spams but it's usually status/tank/healer builds that run it and generally youd want the rest all running red strikers

[pale pier]

i dont have those builds, just the one reflector shield build man, cant get any others because i need to do cd to get the stuff for them

[slim elk]

what difficulty are you matchmaking?

[pale pier]

heroic and challenging

[narrow kraken]

People are leaving even in challenging?

[slim elk]

forget heroic at your shd lvl, i also get kicked with shd 214
Challenging is actually confusing for kicking people

[pale pier]

the past 40 mins have been the same results, regaurdless of heroic or challenging

[slim elk]

they do, its annoying

[narrow kraken]

That sucks I didn't have much issue back then but by the time i was lvl 100 I already had a pretty good strikers

[pale pier]

i think i might take a break since people are being like this

[slim elk]

bruh, not even myself got kicked that much when I started going into CD with shd ONE

[pale pier]

cant even make a build like this

[narrow kraken]

You could try farming on world heroic if that's the case

[pale pier]

nope, the world has nothing that i need for my builds

plus its gonna be so slow if i do overworld farming

[narrow kraken]

What build are you planning to make?

[pale pier]

oneshot shotgun build that my friend recommended me

[slim elk]

summit is boring and slow for farming but no one will kick you tf out since you don't need MM

[narrow kraken]

Well that's the first issue I spot :/

Top 1 recommended build for everyone after shd is always a red strikers

[pale pier]

well unfortunatley i dont have the build for summit solo

[narrow kraken]

Most commonly needed/accepted in a bunch of different content

[slim elk]

try Hard Summit, not chall or heroic

[pale pier]

nah, going to be boring and long even then, so i rather not

it was long even with people

[narrow kraken]

The amount of people that are not even past lvl 100 that I carry on legendary 4+5 directives lol

[slim elk]

if you wanna be lazy, make a skill build, the turrets and drone make all the work for ya lol

[pale pier]

i dont want to do that, boring for regular gameplay, usefull for bosses or whatever

[slim elk]

I just want bighorn but people leave me by myself 😭

[slim elk]

that's the right answer

[narrow kraken]

I gotten so many I lost count because I actively farm floorr 10 still lol

[slim elk]

I did manage to clear floor 10 like 4-6 times but fkn warhounds are annoying

they make my hotshot build useless since there are only two warhounds and one of them is Elite Sniper Warhound.

[narrow kraken]

Well that's just part of division sadly, that's all I can say at this point... It's understandable why people are kicking you out specially on heroic and you don't want to make a little effort on open world to somewhat make a build that does impact on cd

[narrow kraken]

Eat nade and repeat is my way to do it lol

[slim elk]

I try but they run away when I throw one

[narrow kraken]

I meant on yourself 😂

[slim elk]

🤣

[pale pier]

a little effort? ive tried open world farming and it takes ages to get what i need for a build

[narrow kraken]

I bet you'll have a lot of fun once you realize how much of a grind it is to optimize your gears to 100%

[pale pier]

and my god you need a build just to do countdown, to get a build

[narrow kraken]

Matchmake open world

Distress signal also works wonders

[pale pier]

i dunno if you are being sarcastic

[narrow kraken]

People will come in with maxed build and will clear open world things in less than a few minutes

[narrow kraken]

I'm not :). that's just how the game is

[pale pier]

then why would you think i would enjoy grinding out max gear?

[narrow kraken]

Yes I was being sarcastic lol

[pale pier]

so what do i need for this "red stiker build" ?

[narrow kraken]

4 pieces striker and add 2 other pieces as a starte, people usually run it with coyote's exotic mask and 1 ceska gear

[pale pier]

never mind since its apparently a challenge

[narrow kraken]

How is it a challenge?

[rugged stratus]

#td2-build-advice has a pinned spreadsheet with a ton of builds including striker.
Hunters fury would also be worth looking into for early game. Both sets are very easy to build

[sand ocean]

Anyone in game right now? Can’t access my pc right now but I’d like to know the dedicated loot drop in the open world.

[pale pier]

from what im reading, it punishing you hard for your mistakes, and i rather not have be punished hard, or at all tbh

[narrow kraken]

So would a 1 shot shotgun build though??

[pale pier]

it uses a lot of armor

and i gain armor on kill

[narrow kraken]

So a dz 1 pump is what you meant alright

[pale pier]

idk got the reccomendation from a friend man

[narrow kraken]

Idk man, you won't get far in the game if you don't try out builds that would push you to the edge

[pale pier]

oh well, im not the guy that wants to be pushed to the edge

[narrow kraken]

[rugged stratus]

[blazing timber]

[pale pier]

since most builds really wants you to aim and such, and well, my aim isnt the best, so being pushed to the edge is really going to hurt

[blazing timber]

[narrow kraken]

Then go for a skill build like others mentioned but good luck finding any match with it in cd

[blazing timber]

Use eclipse ❤️‍🔥 the world build

[rugged stratus]

Striker or hunters fury are both spray and pray type of builds. They are dead simple to use

[narrow kraken]

Or that actually a good mention

[pale pier]

do they kill fast?

[rugged stratus]

Yes

[narrow kraken]

Very fast

[blazing timber]

Use Scorpio and he amazed

[narrow kraken]

He does have a scorpio but prob the mess of a build and low shd is causing him to get kicked every match on cd apparently

[blazing timber]

He needs to go to challenging cd than

[rugged stratus]

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1nrPBmOrtpkEW1j5fbcRT7L-AXgsGOqMqxXoVtopsiGM/edit?usp=sharing
Goto the hub(builds) tab , locate striker and hunters fury. Links to detailed build guides are at the end of each line.

[narrow kraken]

Still gets kicked in there according to him

[blazing timber]

Me using 6pcs 5.11

[sand ocean]

Can I use safeguard Alps for future initiative build?

Don’t have the Setup yet

[rugged stratus]

Non issue at this point. Build right and do open world/summit if cd not working out

[blazing timber]

Don't use safeguard on alps use opportunistic

[rugged stratus]

I ended up joining a match with my mortar build the other day with nothing happening

[narrow kraken]

I pray for the doomest fail for mortar builds

I nver quit dz lobbies as fast as when I see a mortar build

[blazing timber]

Don't deploy mortars so they can't be hacked

[rugged stratus]

I dont even think most challenging agents even look at builds.

[narrow kraken]

Yeah idk tbh

[rugged stratus]

I just swapped to hp cc ep. Didnt need any Lootcifer sacrifices that day 😈

[blazing timber]

I have tried soloing challenging cd definitely plausible tried like 4-5 times 3 times delta 1 time was totally my fault and 1 time iirc unbreakable didn't proc

[narrow kraken]

Sounds like a total of 5 skill issues 🥂

[rugged stratus]

[blazing timber]

5.11 skill build to counter that

[rugged stratus]

I wouldn't worry about soloing tbh. I only do cd to stack exo and it goes a lot faster with a team

Exo/hr

[blazing timber]

I wanted to do it but delats ruined my mood haven't tried after that

[slim elk]

not rudolph typing for half an hour

[static trout]

Three builds to consider:
Hunter's Fury - play up close
Striker - best single target dps in the game, so easy to put together, kill or be killed
Heartbreaker - Functions akin to striker with stacking but has less damage, more armor.

This game is kill or be killed.
It's unlucky that you get kicked over and over, but your builds are, erhm, not even worth mentioning.
Look in the spreadsheet as local recommended, get the basic gear for Striker in the open world/summit (seriously, you're making it sound like it's gonna take you longer than it really is) and once you got the basic build down, you can go into Challenging Countdown without much trouble. Don't do Heroic unless you have a perfect Striker build or something on this level.

Give me a moment and I'll past in some important resources for you.

This is still relevant for you @pale pier

I just reached level 40 - what now?
What I can recommend you do:

• Look through your inventory UI and take note of everything. Brands, Gear Sets, Talents - get used to what you're looking at. What is a core, what is an attribute, all that.
• Familiarise yourself with the map, what can you look at, what info does it give etc.
• Familiarise yourself with the tinkering station and for christ sake read the tutorial popup, because it covers the basics
• Go into #td2-build-advice > check the pinned messages > Go to the sheet and then read the FAQ
• Pick a build from the hub and go for it, get to grinding
• Familiarise yourself with the power hierarchy | #ask-td2-community message

[narrow kraken]

That copy paste was ready to fly

[static trout]

Don't go for "youtube builds" or "a build a friend recommended" till you understand the basics of how to build a gearset.

[raw elk]

Wait I did not know the difference between striker and hearbreaker build till now 🤣

[static trout]

I don't type that fast on my phone, fight me

[slim elk]

make me.

[static trout]

Had to get my pc on for it, don't have them ready on my phone :((

[narrow kraken]

HB is forever in my heart

Best new watch friendly build

Kingbreaker HB build

Good damage as solo and good survivability

[raw elk]

oh don't get me wrong I am really enjoying striker but there is also a big risk that my mosquito brain did not remember the difference between the two 😂

[narrow kraken]

Oh yeah after I had a taste of striker I kind of never did go back to HB

But like I said it helped me tons when I was low shd

[raw elk]

yeah i can imagine ^^

[blazing timber]

No spreadsheet builds than

[mellow trout]

In fairness the spreadsheet does explain what the pieces are for

[glass pine]

Incursion based question - how often can u open the chest at the end? When does it reset??

Ran it yesterday and didn't get a key drop

[nimble spruce]

Should get a key once per week per character. It's supposed to reset on a Tuesday with everything else but not sure if it actually does yet.

[sudden matrix]

It resets monday.

https://divisiontimers.com/

It would be less confusing if it reset Tuesday like most other things but eh at least it works right?

[glass pine]

So a Monday reset, but no key drop on a Wednesday....i would say it kinda works

Thanks for the info

[sudden matrix]

Well if you ran it Monday then you would have gotten the key? Or have you not run it at all for a while?

[glass pine]

Played it on Sunday night and last night

[sudden matrix]

What's your time zone?

<t:1711353600:f> this is when it last reset so idk your time zone but maybe Sunday night was Monday for the reset?

[shy beacon]

guys, of I dont take cache from clan box, will I recieve it next week? or it will expire?

I just had 2 caches in clan box and I dont know why

[sudden matrix]

You might have gotten distinction of the week which gives you two. They do stack up in there. I think I've got like 10.

[shy beacon]

I was played with 2 characters of ots matter

[shy beacon]

aa really? didnt nkow that, thanks!

[mossy wing]

Once people get oros, is there anything else to farm?

[sudden matrix]

Oreo is great but only for certain things. Have you tried our lord and savior the Regulus?

[mossy wing]

No I haven’t gotten that. I thought it came from the raid

[sudden matrix]

It do come from the iron horse raid.

[mossy wing]

Right, then my question remains. Lots of people do the raid over and over and I’m curious if it’s just for the fun of it or if there are things I don’t know about

[sudden matrix]

Tons of people find their own fun. Some run countdown as their end game fun, some the raid, some open world or missions. Everyone likes their own thing and that's cool. Find your own ya know.

[mossy wing]

Of course! Just checking

[hot ferry]

where would one find this many keys?

[nimble spruce]

Bounties

[sudden matrix]

Gotta do named enemies too so ez

[hot ferry]

alr one other quick question: wtf

I closed shop and its still there

[sudden matrix]

Kinda a common bug, log out can fix it sometimes but that vendor has nothing of worth this week.

[hot ferry]

game did it for me

[sudden matrix]

Noice, I still haven't gotten one.

[hot ferry]

lucky

[light lotus]

can you only matchmake for normal for incursion?
Not challenging, hard, etc?

[wispy merlin]

there's only 1 difficulty for incursion

[sudden matrix]

Normal is only diff

[hot ferry]

bruv it was a genuine question

I know you said twitter and such

I was asking a server

[light lotus]

great thanks!
ive been matchmaking for quite a while now and still no one 😦
is game ded? (tot it was because its normal >_<)

[wispy merlin]

no, look in lfg

[sudden matrix]

Yeah tons have a bad time with in game MM so they don't use it and go right to discord LFGs.

[civic lily]

easier to yell at someone with a trash build then typing it out

[inner tendon]

Or you could try calmly discussing it instead.

I know it's a novel idea for some people, but worth a shot.

[tiny stump]

it helps if you call them honey before or after you make a suggestion

[drifting quartz]

I'm like 2 and half days behind this event, is it worth trying at least???

[sudden matrix]

Events can be completed in a couple hours tbh

[inner tendon]

That's a bit much, especially for a new player.
don't even worry about the Challenges, it's just extra stuff. Just enjoy yourself, GB is pretty great.

[drifting quartz]

Is there a particular area, LFG content to do that would gelp

[inner tendon]

Open world map (called the LZ by most people), bunch of Directives, on Challenging or higher.
then "call for backup" and re-call each time someone joins.

Then just do whatever, I'd recommend at least trying the Projects though.

That's about the same answer for levelling in general by the way.

[drifting quartz]

I've only done the backup a few times I waited a good 5 minutes no one turned up (was able to make a "cuppa" and go for a pee lol

[inner tendon]

It can vary but usually someone will join within a few seconds.

[wispy merlin]

or buddy, or pal

[tiny stump]

im not your buddy guy!

im not your guy, friend!

im not your friend buddy!

[wispy merlin]

I'm not your buddy pal

[narrow matrix]

Yes recommended guns are LMGs to maintain uptime bc mag size

But if you can get your time to kill on ARs down those are cool too I just hate having to reload and miss the buff

[drifting quartz]

I haven't had one name yellow lmg, I assumed they were rarer....I've got about 2 exotic assault rifles, a load of named yellow assault rifles, rifles...I've been trying to use Diamondback as it looks cool n seems to 1 shot the marked target

[sudden matrix]

Targeted loot LMGs?

[narrow matrix]

Unfortunately golden bullet is about high rpm high burst weapons so diamondback won’t cut it

I tried using an M1A and while it works it’s slower and requires more effort this isn’t the event for it unless you’re solo / duo

[static trout]

Before AND after. It's the compliment sandwich

[tiny stump]

aw yeaa

[static trout]

As for that vendor not showing the items, could always look at the one outside - they're linked, same items.

[rugged stratus]

M1a cqb is a melt machine under GB buff... bakers dozen turns into the the bullet prince under the gb buff 😆

[narrow matrix]

Have fun spamming the trigger I guess

[rugged stratus]

Ofc, it's the best part

[civic lily]

anything is a melt machine under gb

[drifting quartz]

I only seem to be able to do that in Summit....

[sudden matrix]

Summit and countdown have the option to pick but missions/regions of the map have a rotating TL(targeted loot) every day.

[drifting quartz]

Oh thanks, I'll have to use that Capacitor or St Elmo's.... (I'm just not a fan of them....I kinda want a nice smg or lmg

[sudden matrix]

To see the TL for today just open the map and press R(should show at the bottom of the map).

[narrow matrix]

LMGs worth using

RPK
L86 custom

IWI Negev
GR9
Bluescreen
Iron Lung
MG5
Infantry Mg5
Black Friday

Everything else kind of sucks

New Reliable is a strong mention I forgot that one

[sudden matrix]

Rip sleipner

[cedar schooner]

sleepner

[narrow matrix]

That one too but I included that as mg5 😭

I think that stinger lmg is also a mg5 if you can get ur hands on it

Wish they’d get rid of the friend referral thing already

[inner tendon]

Stinger is an m249.

[narrow matrix]

Talent is still pretty cool

Thanks for the clarification tho

[raw elk]

I would also Stoner to the LMG list

[narrow matrix]

I got killed by a hyena tank using it 😭

It’s strong if you run strained on it and get ROF as attribute

[inner tendon]

Going by the iKia big list of meta, it's not half bad in certain categories, although not great in burst.
so like, worth adding I suppose.

[narrow matrix]

Is that the list where he uses strikers as a baseline

And flatline…

[cedar schooner]

no but that one is good too

[sonic loom]

what happen with that things

[inner tendon]

haunted shop.

[narrow matrix]

Run

[tiny stump]

thats some wicked poltergeist activity

[sonic loom]

Just entering the shop and surprised by that trolley

😂

[inner tendon]

It honestly seemed like it was the surprised one.
give it a biscuit, it'll calm down.

[sonic loom]

ok I'll try, thanks for the advice folks

[dark tiger]

Hey, if I’m focus farming chainkiller. I should TL walker harris right, not chest pieces?

[cedar schooner]

yep

[drifting quartz]

Right time to try and get a few challenges done for this golden gun malarky

[hot ferry]

am I dense or smth?

[sudden matrix]

Me watching your credits not drop, do you have it in your inventory?

[hot ferry]

nope but it gave me a "modular holster" from the same brand

[sudden matrix]

Maybe inventory space would help?

[tiny stump]

thats almost def the problem

[hot ferry]

151 outta 150 lmao

[slim elk]

I thought ubi was the one breaking the game

[hot ferry]

delta-3 is just when I get full inv

yall must suffer for my actions

my inv is too much for the ubi servers

yet again that aint sayin much

[bold kernel]

how are you getting 10k+ keener watches?

128 hours and only 90th level

[true siren]

lotta time, efficient grinding

[bold kernel]

any tips so far?

[drifting quartz]

So I've just done a daily mission can't remember if it was the tombs, but had 3 people join....did 2 levels of the GG event was thinking it be a huge grind lol

[rugged stratus]

Grind challenging or heroic controlpoints with directives you can manage . Heroic 4d cp is an shd per takeover

[lament bison]

Wrong channel, sorry**. Movinng to #td2-build-advice

[narrow matrix]

How do you fix the bug where you can’t go past the elevator after the infirmary in the tombs

I had rogue agents and twice now it’s bugged (like the summit door glitch if someone opens the door before last ad is killed)

[nimble spruce]

Maybe travel to DC and back to make sure it fully resets the mission?

[red thunder]

what should i do to get high crit damage mods?

[nimble spruce]

ideally farm legendary summit with gear mods targeted and lots of directives (if you're up to the challenge)

[red thunder]

summit goes up to legendary?

[nimble spruce]

yup

heroic countdown would be next best bet I guess, a lot easier than legendary too

[red thunder]

alright thanks

[rain thorn]

D2 is crashing on startup. Verified the files and still no go. If I uninstall the game, then re-install, will that wipe out all my time played, characters, equipment, achievements, etc., and make me start from scratch? 😕

[static trout]

Not at all (your progress is stored on the account, server) - however, have you tried restarting your pc?

[rain thorn]

Yes, restarted the pc. No help. The only thing that I can see from a few days ago (when it was working) is that I seemed to have switched to the new Ubisoft Connect version. When I hit the Play button, I get a message on the UB window saying that the "Game is currently running". I even get this right after a reboot.

[turbid igloo]

I found this echo but i can't enter there it's in a lab near the white house

[static trout]

Hmm.
Two ideas I have is clearing the DirectX Cache (can be done via Windows) and getting a program called RAMMAP, pressing the "Empty" drop down menu and clearing the two Standby lists at the bottom.
After that, I guess you could set it to reinstall overnight (you know, depending on internet speed), it might fix something the verify files didn't.

[charred badger]

Hi gents, i got to lvl 40 and finished the WONY dlc, i know that now im supossed to grind but idk where to start, anyone can guide me a little bit?

[inner tendon]

It's part of an early (late) game mission, between World Tier something and before WONY.

[charred badger]

im not sure if my loot is good or not or what i'm supossed to do

[slim elk]

Get yourself comfy.

Grind for a red Striker build, with that one you'll be able to farm for any other build, content or resources very fast and without getting bored that much

[charred badger]

sounds like fun but i have no clue where to start the grind or where to farm the loot

[slim elk]

Check out the spreadsheet pinned in #td2-build-advice
Start playing Challenging Countdown with targeted loot set as Strikers Gear

[static trout]

HOLD UP I GOT A THING FOR THIS

[slim elk]

DO IT RUDOLPH

JUST DO IT

[static trout]

I just reached level 40 - what now?
What I can recommend you do:

• Look through your inventory UI and take note of everything. Brands, Gear Sets, Talents - get used to what you're looking at. What is a core, what is an attribute, all that.
• Familiarise yourself with the map, what can you look at, what info does it give etc.
• Familiarise yourself with the tinkering station and for christ sake read the tutorial popup, because it covers the basics
• Go into #td2-build-advice > check the pinned messages > Go to the sheet and then read the FAQ
• Pick a build from the hub and go for it, get to grinding
• Familiarise yourself with the power hierarchy | #ask-td2-community message

[slim elk]

copypasta wildin'

[rugged stratus]

was there any other updates that would coincide with the crashing? like video card update.. i think there was an issue not too long ago with an nvidia update but i dont remember the particulars.

[static trout]

True, yeah, either nvidia or windows updating a driver/something, could check for that aswell

[civic forge]

Is heroic countdown the chameleon and Elmo’s engine the same drop chance?

[spare ether]

am I just unlucky, im trying to get a ninja bag, out of 15 caches and double digit countdown runs ive got like 18 exotic bags all of them but one being acosta bags, is my rng really that bad or does it not drop from countdown.

[rain thorn]

Thanks but it is magically working now. It took several verifies and reboots, but it suddenly came back. Ugh, black magic.

[cedar yacht]

Just get luckier ig

[drifting quartz]

I've got spent 20 red coins for an exotic....got shocker punch seems it's paired up with st Elmo's is it worth using

[cedar yacht]

Not worth

[charred badger]

i got the set

took me like half an hour

though i lost like 500k points of armor, i feel hella weak now but i hit way harder

though i don't think this gun is good enough, how do i target for good guns?

[civic lily]

Rng is trying to save you

from getting noobtrapped

[static trout]

@charred badger

[slim elk]

okay, but strikers build is not meant to be used with the 6pc

Make it look more like this, attributes are CHD and CHC.

CHC may NOT surpass 60% (check your stats tab in the inventory)

[worldly fjord]

i was doing it on heroic where those rogues killed me, i was expecting to spawn at the beginning of the mission since it was on heroic and it actually spawned me at the last checkpoint

[sudden matrix]

@narrow kraken Not too bad honestly.

[narrow kraken]

rip me

[civic lily]

congrats on the 3 player incursion clear

[mellow trout]

[sudden matrix]

Not sure who said the "oh a skill build" for turrets but that was funny.

[narrow kraken]

all i said is id go left, but you took care of both of them before i even got there

[sudden matrix]

I did say I was gonna take care of the turrets, just with skill tags directive I only had 4 at the start. It's enough so eh.

[narrow kraken]

3 exotic components in 17 minutes, im pretty happy bout that

[mellow trout]

Oxi?

[sudden matrix]

yur

[mellow trout]

Ayy

[narrow matrix]

Yea rogue deaths you spawn in the room you encounter them

Same with hunters in missions

[sudden matrix]

I'm just super happy we all pushed out the gate, bro people forcing gate strat gives me anxiety now.

[civic lily]

nah deceit hunter sends you back to the start

[narrow matrix]

The one from Schaffer?

[civic lily]

Yes

[narrow matrix]

Oh that’s true

I just thought it wasn’t that bad cause he isn’t that far to get to

[sudden matrix]

Isn't that like almost half way in?

[narrow matrix]

Not really

[sudden matrix]

I don't run that mission often so idr.

[mellow trout]

Real

[civic lily]

it's an older mission so it's literally 90% red enemies until the last parr

Also the last part doesn't have a checkpoint

[mellow trout]

It's virtually halfway in

You gotta go through the pier and haunted house and the theme park

[narrow matrix]

Schaffer?

[mellow trout]

Ye

[drifting quartz]

What are the chances of getting the same exotic 3 times in a row

[civic lily]

Yes I've died on the schaeffer boss and I went to the start

[mellow trout]

If deceit kills you on heroic runs dead

[narrow kraken]

@drifting quartz if its chameleon and youre doing open world pretty good

[civic lily]

I think this is the only mission that does this

[narrow matrix]

I got 2 chameleons in 1 go

[civic lily]

devs forgot to put a checkpoint at the end

[mellow trout]

Yeah even on leg and other heroic stuff you get one by the final encounter

[narrow matrix]

Bro the end of Schaffer is so painful too

All he does is spawn helicopters nonstop

[civic lily]

yea you have to kill him

[narrow matrix]

What about challenging

[mellow trout]

Challenging has checkpoints

[civic lily]

idk but the elites at the last part all have their own voice lines

[drifting quartz]

Nope, it was shocker punch again.....spent 20 of those golden gun event points for a exotic hest

[narrow matrix]

Schaffer was one of the most brutal fights in encountered

[mellow trout]

I was expecting a squad of named enemies but nah they were just normal BT with unique voices

[civic lily]

what joining late into the game does to a mf

[narrow kraken]

ngl, i had a pretty rough go trying to run the firedog season boss with directives on

[narrow matrix]

Faye Lau is just as painful

[mellow trout]

Real

[narrow matrix]

Nonstop DRONES bro why

[civic lily]

Skill issue

[mellow trout]

Joined during Anderson and thought pentco was gonna be another normal mission

[narrow matrix]

Pentco was bearable but I only ran it on story and normal

Captain Lewis mission confused the fuck out of me

[mellow trout]

Id be surprised if they didn't bring back sparkles or just flame dogs in general

[civic lily]

When you shove the solo player on a map designed for 8 people

that's Anderson manhunt

[narrow matrix]

Hornet is a pain too

Bro spams rushers nonstop

[mellow trout]

"let's pack a room full of those silly Conley jammers and then have the enemies nonstop spawn"

[civic lily]

give them to outcasts

[narrow matrix]

I want a named outcast rusher

Please just one

@mellow trout have you done kenley college

[mellow trout]

Once

Never again

[narrow matrix]

The amount of outcast rushers

I did it in world tier 1 and you need bleed ammo

[mellow trout]

I only even did it because it was before I bought warlords so I couldn't do summit or countdown for the diamondback

[civic lily]

When I did kenly the enemy spawns were ez

[narrow matrix]

Where was I going to get bleed ammo and explosives looool

There’s like 2 crates

[civic lily]

but the objectives stank

[drifting quartz]

So if scanner pulse is 100% haste surely its never got a cooldown?

[mellow trout]

The only thing I'll give kenly credit for is the directives are funny

[narrow matrix]

Db was my first ever exotic

[mellow trout]

The puzzles are so ass and it be Hella boring

[narrow matrix]

Got it from a cache from wt5 weekly project

[narrow matrix]

10 seconds

[civic lily]

the math isn't mathing

[mellow trout]

Mine was cham

[civic lily]

same

[narrow matrix]

15 second or so duration of pulse and 10 second cooldown

So 100% uptime of pulse

[mellow trout]

It served me well till I was shown the ways of the FAMAS

[narrow matrix]

I like the famas but initial kick gets me

I prefer carbine 7

[civic lily]

use elmo

[narrow matrix]

I like Elmo but I don’t really like it’s talent (the downtime)

[mellow trout]

Elmo shill

[narrow matrix]

Ik it’s a top tier gun and I use it when I need a clutch

[drifting quartz]

Ok I'm confused, haste is the speed of the cool down right? If it was a 10 second cool down, 100% haste surely means no cool down and 100% duration

[narrow matrix]

I just prefer fast hands or strained

[civic lily]

It refreshes every 3rd reload maximum its pretty good uptime

[mellow trout]

No

[narrow matrix]

Ik but to me it’s not really practical for my purposes cause I like to matchmake for 4 player scaling (I don’t really like fighting red enemies - it’s boring) and the shock duration isn’t long enough to warrant any loss of damage

[civic lily]

Good uptime for a talent that allows you to stop enemies from doing anything

[mellow trout]

It just means your haste is increased by 100 percent of base

[wispy merlin]

so based

[mellow trout]

[narrow matrix]

Plus the one thing that throws me off with Elmo is I feel like I’m losing on most of my builds cause you could have so much more crit damage and I’d end up having 80% chc 😂

[civic lily]

Shocked enemies means usually 100% rounds on target which is the most important damage edition in this game

[narrow matrix]

20% of which I can’t use

[mellow trout]

Roll off all that CHC goddamn

[narrow matrix]

Most of my builds are specced to accommodate the 1886

[mellow trout]

Wh-

[narrow matrix]

I love it but it has no mod slots 😔

TLDR my builds are nerfed

[mellow trout]

I really wanna like the Virginian but it's an 1886

[narrow matrix]

Bro what 😭

[civic lily]

named weapons are cool mindset

[mellow trout]

Perf boomerang would be godly on a good rifle

[narrow matrix]

I love it … I pull it out on chungas and just keep getting boomerang off them

They die in 5 bullets and I usually get 4 back 😂

3 -4 shot warhounds

[mellow trout]

What is it like 75 percent chance for bullet return and 50 percent increase damage?

[narrow matrix]

So here’s my practical use for why I like the 1886

Its based on bullet damage and not burst dps (M1A cqb)

So I can play very casually and for hours without my hands hurting or having to play aggressively to do the damage I want (3-4 shot most enemies)

[civic lily]

How's the damage against heroic elites

[mellow trout]

The problem is the handling

[wispy merlin]

uhhhhh 🤓 addition

[narrow matrix]

Depends on how you build it, you can 3-4 shot them (3 shot if you get boomerang)

[civic lily]

autocorrect failed me

[mellow trout]

If perfect boomerang was on an m1a id use the hell out of it

[narrow matrix]

M1A also deserves perfect ranger

[wispy merlin]

Elmo turned out to be very practical for me in legendary runs

[narrow matrix]

It’s wasted on a MMR

[wispy merlin]

so take that as what you will

[narrow matrix]

Elmo is very good when you are in need of utility

It’s amazing for that, free crowd control and the shock ammo works on doggies

[mellow trout]

If no Scorpio Elmo is definitely a practical choice if you could use some cc

[wispy merlin]

i mean its mods are competitive with other guns' damage talents too

[mellow trout]

Pumps stats too yeah

[civic lily]

it's mods are dumb

[wispy merlin]

disregarding the talent it's only a little bit worse than strained

[narrow matrix]

The only bad thing I will ever say about the Elmo and Scorpio for utility use is if you take them away from some people they can’t face harder content or harder enemies like multiple rogue agents / hunters without it

[wispy merlin]

just accept that it's powercreep lol

[narrow matrix]

It’s worse than that some guy kept stealing all of the golden bullets in Wall Street earlier with that thing

It was pissing me off so bad 😂

That thing has marksman rifle range fr

[civic lily]

sounds like average golden bullet gameplay

First guy to kill the glowing yellow guy solos the room

[narrow matrix]

I wish there was a directive to turn it off 😂

Find the golden bullet at random loool

[civic lily]

turn off the global event

[narrow matrix]

But why does the golden bullet keep going to chungas bro wtf 🤣

[mellow trout]

If only you had a high capacity, high fire rate, accurate weapon capable of shredding plating

[narrow matrix]

Which is 👁️

1886 👁️

[civic lily]

Where high capacity and firerate

[narrow matrix]

You never specified how high 😏

Oh fun note the 1886 can 4-6 shot the riker tank shield

[wispy merlin]

six12

[narrow matrix]

So a trick with the 1886 if you have to use it is use booster hive for tanky enemies

[mellow trout]

six12

[wispy merlin]

naval have you seen me use six12 yesterday yet? i forgor if i used it

[civic lily]

the mop

[wispy merlin]

not scorpio

[mellow trout]

Uhh Scorpio yes six12 idts

[wispy merlin]

or the mop

I'll whip it out in incursion

[sudden matrix]

Famas boi yesterday

[wispy merlin]

famas boi forever*

[narrow matrix]

Famous*

[civic lily]

elmo*

[wispy merlin]

👎

[mellow trout]

I wonder how much faster it is than an ouro

[narrow matrix]

I need your opinion on this @wispy merlin

[sudden matrix]

Eh for boss fights good, Tanker ehhhh

[narrow matrix]

Be serious pls

How good is the pestilence

[civic lily]

obviously using it for the bosses

[mellow trout]

For wright and lovebirds though where you can slam them

[mellow trout]

Meh

[sudden matrix]

Yeah but I'd feel like scorp would just be better at that point.

[civic lily]

only thing I know is it was the only lmg that didn't get buffed

[mellow trout]

What if hypothetically you had someone else proccing the Scorpio amp

[civic lily]

ye

[wispy merlin]

then you use six12

[narrow matrix]

Yea I think it might have gotten nerfed… but this could be a shooting range issue… it doesn’t refresh the debuff if you hit it again in the shooting range

[mellow trout]

DPS on another six12 would go ham

[narrow matrix]

I have yet to try outside

[mellow trout]

It got nerfed in PvP

[wispy merlin]

i run six12 and elmo against DUA boss stage

[mellow trout]

But otherwise untouched

[wispy merlin]

striker 200

it shreds the boss

[narrow matrix]

What about super 90 / SASG?

[mellow trout]

DUA is the headshots only one right

[civic lily]

good until you reload

six12 has big reload advantage

[mellow trout]

I still want an enforcer

[narrow matrix]

I use the 1886 you assume I don’t spend my entire life reloading 😂

[civic lily]

Boomerang doesn't come with super 90

[narrow matrix]

I was able to get one when I bought ultimate edition on pc last year

[civic lily]

fast hands six12 damn

[mellow trout]

I bought ultimate edition yet still don't have one😔

[narrow matrix]

I was thinking of using a rifle with rifleman for that part do you recommend?

[sudden matrix]

Breh so close to one shotting him yesterday, one little buff would have done it lol

[narrow matrix]

On console it’s restricted sadly

[mellow trout]

I heard the capitol defender pack comes with certain versions on PC but it's gone for console now

[wispy merlin]

you won't get the same results like that clip

[wispy merlin]

yeah we were in 4 man, it really struggles without FI buff tbh

wait it was 2 man

[sudden matrix]

Yeah we were duo

[wispy merlin]

anyways yeah no FI or achilles = two shot needed

[sudden matrix]

Sledge would have done it tbh

[narrow matrix]

Fast hands? @wispy merlin

[wispy merlin]

yeah

[civic lily]

fast hands good now since it stacks per pellet

[narrow matrix]

R u using bloody knuckles or no?

[wispy merlin]

no

just coyote ceska

60% chc

using coyote close buff to get 25% chd

[narrow matrix]

The placement of the enemy health bar haha

[narrow matrix]

I’ll have to look into this, last time I encountered him I used mp7

[wispy merlin]

if you can get close like this shotguns give best results tbh

[narrow matrix]

But if his bp wasn’t fully broken how come he didn’t stinger hive you

[wispy merlin]

he doesn't have stinger

[civic lily]

Cuz he has a healing backpack that heals his entire health bar in one shot

[wispy merlin]

he has restorer hive

[sudden matrix]

That's DUA lego boss.

[civic lily]

and said healing backpack is almost as tanky ss the boss

[narrow matrix]

I actually didn’t think to use one, mostly cause my team was Random’s with tank builds and I kept going down whenever he would shoot me with the minigun

The bleed ammo shreds man

[wispy merlin]

that's if you let him reload

you have to stunlock him or kill him fast enough

[turbid igloo]

So you're telling me i wasted a echo from pre WONY

[sudden matrix]

In groups you can perma stun him if you break his chain and interrupt him from fixing it.

[civic lily]

me with elmo shock

[wispy merlin]

you already can stunlock him solo with just scorpio

[narrow matrix]

Found in world tier 4 I think

[turbid igloo]

Can i still open that door tho, like do i need an key

[narrow matrix]

It’s what advances you to tidal basin

[sudden matrix]

Yeah there is some side mission thing where you go down in the bunker.

[narrow matrix]

You needed to watch it to go to tidal basin

If you’re boosted that could mean

[sudden matrix]

This is why people say if you want all the things don't boost. You can always make a second character if you want it tho.

[turbid igloo]

I didn't boost myself

[turbid igloo]

I always played the whole DC thing and used one and only character with no boost

[narrow matrix]

Anyways that door requires a key

Look around near one of the labs there’s a computer

[turbid igloo]

Two Labs?

[narrow matrix]

There’s a room where you enter and inside there’s a bunch of computers

[turbid igloo]

O

Ty @narrow matrix

[narrow matrix]

If you’re still having issues I have it unlocked you can join my world later and do it

But once you use said computer the computer will turn off

[narrow matrix]

Best to spend your points on named item caches, exotics caches can be gotten in other ways through weekly projects or countdown

[turbid igloo]

I don't have plus but maybe i can restart in different difficulties to do it

[narrow matrix]

Price of exotic cache per star is ridiculous

[narrow matrix]

Only way to break the 10 second threshold is with tag team talent, named empress chest (Caesar guard), overcharge with BTSU, hardwired talent, rigger backpack talent. Otherwise I believe the minimum cooldown is 10 seconds which is why 100% haste is 10 seconds

This is why haste on turret drone is absolutely useless stat

[turbid igloo]

I guess i progressed too much on the game it ended up crashing the computer system

[narrow matrix]

Not a bad way to think about it

[mellow trout]

Turret and drone cooldowns are pretty short so haste isn't that valuable

Especially considering their uptime

[narrow matrix]

Yea I’m going to convert my skill build to either armor regen or headshot damage with dodge city

[slim elk]

Excuse me?! 😃 wdym Floor 100

[turbid igloo]

The Eldritch gods of the summit and the division decided to put you in there to test how well would you go

[mellow trout]

Clear 100 then reset to floor 1 and get to floor 10

[slim elk]

@mellow trout

[mellow trout]

Everything's rolled to headshot and handling right

[slim elk]

yas

[mellow trout]

On solo you should definitely be one shotting everyone

[slim elk]

Legendary elites are left with almost nothing when determined hits

[mellow trout]

Just gotta work on optimisation then

[slim elk]

I can even one shot Named heroic enemies

[mellow trout]

Prioritize the red cores

[slim elk]

I ran out of recon data rn 🥲

[inner tendon]

buy it with your SHD watch, GB global event is the perfect time to farm it out.

[mellow trout]

Perhaps farm better hotshot gear tbh you can get a good core or attribute then roll the other off

[slim elk]

let me see if i can craft some

[slim elk]

I am buying HSD on the watch and GB is also activated

[inner tendon]

What's your current SHD level?

[slim elk]

237

[inner tendon]

Ah okay this explains quite a lot.
Don't worry about having a perfectly optimised build. 20% extra HSD is not going to make or break your setup.

In fact 150% is all you really need to proc Chainkiller.

[slim elk]

I know, I was just wondering if that Heroic 4D CP4'S gave some credit than just a ton of recon data and bps

[inner tendon]

Well you do get credits for doing it, and more named items since Named Enemies and drop chances and such.
tl;dr find out what damage it takes to 1-shot a named heroic and try to get to that, if there's no way then don't worry about it and focus on being able to 2shot them.

[mellow trout]

One player named heroic is like 19-20 mil

[inner tendon]

Isn't it like 24mil?

[slim elk]

I do 27.8mil-ish iirc

[inner tendon]

actually my div2 is almost open, i can literally go check.

wait nvm its doing that cycle thing. I'll check later.

[slim elk]

FUUUUCK
I got bighorn but a drone killed me 😭

[mellow trout]

You can always just spawn and pick it up

Must've been a boss floor so checkpoint

[slim elk]

YEEES ty naval

[mellow trout]

[slim elk]

now the question here is, dtoc as third attribute?

[mellow trout]

As always

[slim elk]

why did I bother to ask lol

[inner tendon]

Well LMG's exist :p
in all seriousness, there are some incredibly niche cases where an argument can be made.

and of course obligatory: 2nd copy of ouro with RoF.

[turbid igloo]

Did the hunters do some hand to hand combat in any comics

Never saw them use that axe other than brutally ripping your vocal chords

[narrow matrix]

So does anyone use the gift for sniper builds?

[inner tendon]

The Hunters used the axe in div1, it was a 1shot IIRC.

just "ded"

[narrow matrix]

Cause I recently got one and I’ve seen d&h and alraldi being used

[clever fjord]

That execution they did when they downed you in survival was brutal

[inner tendon]

Airaldi is good because it's all about that MMR and even with the lack of actual 10% from it, still worth it.
Gift is a decent alternative.

[narrow matrix]

Time to make space for 2 new backpacks 🥲

[inner tendon]

I tried out a somewhat modified version of the Hotshot setup recently where I rolled dta on the sr-1 and used contractors with it, and yep still hits like a truck.

[narrow matrix]

Anyone still use aces btw?

[slim elk]

at that time I forgot about the game, came back in February

[clever fjord]

Ehh

Probably crit sniper or dread edict and that's it

[narrow matrix]

Or high end ?

[clever fjord]

Not crit sniper as in nemesis tho

[inner tendon]

"crit sniper" is just paradoxical.

Aces is kinda an unfortunate situation where it's almost always outclassed by Hotshot, it's just kinda the case now.

[clever fjord]

High end for sniper is honestly replaced with 3 pc hotshot leaving you with 3 choices for high end

[narrow matrix]

Ah I wanted to be able to have both in my inventory but it doesn’t seem I will have any space

Oh rivens since you’re here

[inner tendon]

sure

hah, just got another godrolled Brutus. Wish I liked that gun more.

[narrow matrix]

These are my HF configurations

[inner tendon]

they seem like quite decent setups. not overcapping on chc?
I like to take a longer range thing for my 2nd gun just in case the enemy decides to hide 5 miles away, but ymmv.

[narrow matrix]

No there ms no over cap

[narrow matrix]

I love the outsider talent for this haha

[turbid igloo]

Yeah i know but like

[narrow matrix]

I used to run savage wolverine with crit chance as attribute for this

[turbid igloo]

An intense hand to hand combat

Instead of the touch of death

[narrow matrix]

Or dttoc and use coyote far buff

[mellow trout]

The division doesn't really do hand to hand

[inner tendon]

If you're hoping for an anime fight, this is not that kinda franchise.

[mellow trout]

Closest you can get is deceit

Or any hunter in survival

As long as you're not running all gold gear cuz that makes them a joke

[narrow matrix]

Worn gear then?

[mellow trout]

Purple

In survival you gotta invest Hella time if you wanna gear up properly but if you do you can steamroll the entire dz

[turbid igloo]

Like that deimos vs sam fisher fight or something near

But wouldn't be too much with a really easy to handle axe that could rip off your heart

[inner tendon]

If your heart is able to be ripped off, please consult your nearest cardiologist.

[turbid igloo]

That was kind of funny tbh

Everytime i use nemesis i feel like it would be a 10/10 sniper a influencer would use

[turbid igloo]

It literally records enemies

[low hill]

Live streaming to Twitch

[turbid igloo]

Hey chat check out me clipping this black tusk bot

[low hill]

Alright chat 100 bits if I nail this True Sons Rusher in the dome

[turbid igloo]

Ok but what if it actually recorded for a live leak footage 🗿

[low hill]

You'll know when the live leak logo appears

[turbid igloo]

"trash black tusk mf get's obliterated"

What If hunters existed irl and were good guys?
Answer: criminality rate decreased to 10%

Nobody would have the balls to dare death itself

Hunters are the best definition of reaper or death tbh

Like a "time's up" guy

[low hill]

The hunters are the good guys

[turbid igloo]

They don't seem tho

Also not even rogues are safe

[low hill]

The Hunters go after Agents

[turbid igloo]

But the agents are trying to do something good

[low hill]

Are we though?

[turbid igloo]

Idk if our character is canon to the actual division lore

If so millions of enemies dead rn

And factions destroyed

Mix up just cause and a mute main character

Congrats you got your own agent

Idk if they're canon tho

[graceful terrace]

Do specialization objectives get completed in missions/countdown or only open world? Trying to unlock gunner atm and I need to kill bleeding and burning enemies

[civic forge]

Can I get coyote mask from countdown

[graceful terrace]

Yes you can, you just have to target masks and get lucky with the drops

[narrow matrix]

I’d stick to just open world / summit

It’s how it was intended really … countdown might complicate it (other players to mess it up and such)

[graceful terrace]

I was just curious cause I haven't done them, only unlocked Technician a while back running only in open world

But thanks for the advice, now I just need to get bleed and burn weapons to do the challenges

[civic forge]

How do I target

[narrow matrix]

Press down on dpad whilst on the map

Look for the thing you want on the map

Or use the Dpad to select it at countdown/ summit

[plucky pelican]

Is there a trick to the manhunt in camp white oak? This last area seems stupid strong

[civic forge]

Nothings coming up

[narrow matrix]

Lau infinite spawns helicopters n drones till you execute her sadly

[plucky pelican]

This one is johnson i think

[narrow matrix]

Scorpio cause she pops armor kits after 1% of damage

[mellow trout]

Just gotta find the boxes and shoot them all

Clear everything then it's just a 1v1 between you and the recruiter

[plucky pelican]

I'm getrting murked before I can get to both weakpoints to even get past the first wall

Might just have to normal mode it to get it over with, it's just pissing me off at this point

[mellow trout]

What difficulty are you on

[plucky pelican]

Challenging

[narrow matrix]

You mean I’m not getting drone spammed by black tusk ? 🤣

[mellow trout]

What build you running

Ember

[plucky pelican]

I've got a few i've trieed, but my best luck has been my one-shot hotshot build. I've also got a ehartbreaks and strikers build though

[slim elk]

First impressions:
Get rid of that Elmo's and put on an ACS-12 or Lefty
Remove blue cores and attributes and replace with WD and HSD, hotshot is meant to oneshot everything, you do not count with survivability with this build.

[mellow trout]

Hotshot won't work as well on the recruiter because you can't stack HH off anything

That and you're running blues so your damage after HH applied will get wrecked

[slim elk]

Instead of seekers (optional) use scanner pulse

[plucky pelican]

Can the HG set roll with Red's?

I haven't had an issue 1shotting anything without a helmet so far on challenging one I get a headshot

[mellow trout]

Nope

[plucky pelican]

At least on challenging. Named enemies might take 2

[mellow trout]

All gear has fixed cores, you gotta get all the right attributes and talents if you wanna reroll the core

[mellow trout]

On challenging yes but when you move to heroic youre gonna want all red

[slim elk]

Or else get butter'd

The only survivability you need (imo) is the Extra armor on cover of the Sharpshooter spec

[mellow trout]

Hotshot will make up for survivability if you can chain shots without missing

[slim elk]

(👆 again)

[plucky pelican]

I'll work on keeping an eye out for the right chest and backpack rolls for it then

[slim elk]

Yeah, and look for either M700tac, M700 carbon or SR-1 with Determined
As all of those deal a lot more damage

[plucky pelican]

My m700 carbon does 99k vs my m700's 1.1mil

990k*

[slim elk]

Does your m700 carbon have dtoc?

[plucky pelican]

dtoc?

[slim elk]

damage to target out of cover

[plucky pelican]

No but my Model 700 does

[slim elk]

That's what you primarily need with Hotshot and most builds that require making dps

I run this on Heroic with 4 Directives

It's not perfect but works just fine, it only needs optimization and will one shot Legendary enemies

[raw elk]

what would be the best way to farm the coyote mask ? Doing hyena bounties ?

[sudden matrix]

Countdown targeting mask for loot.

[raw elk]

ok thanks

[narrow matrix]

Hyena mask targeted loot in an area

So bounties work but most down to rights chance is mask targeted loot Jefferson trade center

[raw elk]

thanks

[narrow matrix]

Negotiators used DTA to transfer damage? What about DTTOC? How do these work?

[static trout]

When you critically hit a marked enemy, all other marked enemies
take 100% of the damage dealt. 

Whenever a marked enemy dies, gain +2% critical hit damage,
stacking up to 20 times, or until combat ends.
``` (ND with backpack)

DTH/DTA/DTTOC (works similarly) applies on the target you hit first, to calculate the damage.
Whatever that damage is (based on if they're health/armor/out of cover) is then sent to the other marked enemies where it then checks if they're health/armor/out of cover and multiplies the transferred damage accordingly (if that makes sense)

I can't remember if it was in here or in build, but someone was talking about Perfect Boomerang - and while I like it on paper:

If a bullet is returned to the magazine the next shot gains 50% increased damage."```
Assuming 60% CHC, mathing it out, only 45% of your shots will return the bullet to the magazine - making the talent an overall 22.5% increase in damage.
(0.6 x 0.75 x 0.5 x 100 = 22.5%)

Regular Boomerang is an overall 12% increase in damage
(60% CHC, 50% chance to return, 40% increased damage | 0.6 x 0.5 x 0.4 x 100 = 12%)

[static trout]

#ask-td2-community message

[lunar osprey]

last time I test, damage don't benefit by ooc any more but dta still apply

[raw elk]

I am confused , did I post my question wrong?

[civic forge]

Is it easier to farm coyote mask in countdown or in trade center?

Also is the Smg cold equations good?

What’s the best weapon for dps? I’m using Elmo rn

[hot ferry]

yall know where the textile patch guy is rn?

I want patch lmao

[static trout]

#ask-td2-community message

[static trout]

ND wise they all (DTH/DTA/DTTOC) work and double dips (if applicable) - maybe @thorny swallow could confirm.

[hot ferry]

when you say "move about 5-10 steps" do you mean forward?

[nimble spruce]

Afaik both headhunter and ND only double dip from DTA, could be misremembering though

[static trout]

No, that's the drop rate math for coyote's mask in different scenarios, not including countdown as - from what we can gather - exotic rate is reduced both overall (non TL) and for TL in Countdown - sure you get access to buying an exotic cache rather quickly, but at its base you roll for 1/29 exotics if you specifically want the mask.

[static trout]

Yeah. You fast travel, turn 180 and move 5-10 steps

[hot ferry]

alr one more question before I piss off again, does this have a cooldown?

[blazing timber]

@rugged stratus challenging cd solo

[static trout]

The math formula mjx uses for his guides in the sheets has them all doubledipping iirc (not at my pc right now to confirm)

[rugged stratus]

yeah i think nego double dips if target and mark are both have armor. ig for headhunter its not really double dip but with dta, the whole value has it applied rather than just the initial shot damage, iirc

[civic forge]

Is it faster to get coyote mask for Jefferson trade center or countdown

[rugged stratus]

cd offers more chances of it to drop. if mask target is jtc then itll have a high chance as well

[static trout]

#ask-td2-community message

That's the drop rate math for coyote's mask in different scenarios, not including countdown as - from what we can gather - exotic rate is reduced both overall (non TL) and for TL in Countdown - sure you get access to buying an exotic cache rather quickly, but at its base you roll for 1/29 exotics if you specifically want the mask.

For specific exotic, I wouldn't go to countdown. For mass of loot/random exotics, yes.

[raw elk]

Oh like that yeah that makes sense

[static trout]

I just checked the formula I reverse engineered from mjx, he has DTH/DTA/DTTOC double dipping for ND, which is what I go by aswell

[rugged stratus]

not all double dip tho. if target is out of cover and you have dttooc, then that full damage transfers to the mark, but if mark is out of cover it wont calculate a second time.
if it was dta it would calculate on the target, and on the transfered damage before its applied to the mark , obv if mark has armor.

dta is the only value that has a second calculation on the mark

[static trout]

Look, I checked the formula from mjx - which is from the sheets, I'm not here to argue. That's the information I have, so that's the one I'm passing on.

[rugged stratus]

nobody arguing . its just not correct info.

[static trout]

Take it up with mjx then

[rugged stratus]

just "passing on the info" , im sure someone will sort this before too long 🤦‍♂️

[hot ferry]

does grupo have backpacks?

[nimble spruce]

Yes

[hot ferry]

they any decent?

[nimble spruce]

Well, you get the grupo brand bonus, a core stat, two minor stats, and a talent, so yeah pretty decent in the right build

[hot ferry]

are there any named grupo bags u know?

[nimble spruce]

No, don't think so. Check the pinned spreadsheet in #td2-build-advice for all named gear

[hot ferry]

one more backpack related question, is there any scenario that an acosta's go-bag would be good?

[nimble spruce]

Some healer build variants use it for the overcharge I think, it's not a commonly used version though

[hot ferry]

alrighty, thank you for the advice and knowledge, have a good one :]

[nimble spruce]

Np

[oak talon]

just to confirm what other have already said, it is only dta that double dips for ND, the others don't.

[oak talon]

but more importantly, that calculation is flawed, the amp would atleast have to be a multiplier at 1.50/.140. the calculation you are doing there you dont have a increase, you have 22.5/12 % of the original number

[thorny swallow]

double dip is only DTA

[oak talon]

boomerang is around a 4% increase for normal and around 6% for perfect, depending on wd

also it is not a amp to begin with, it is 40/50 AWD

[thorny swallow]

id be happy to see the formula you came up with to reverse engineer the numbers, maybe I can help point out any gaps or misunderstanding if there are any! :)

tldr, standard damage calc applies to the target you shoot. that damage is applied to marks, but DTA is additionally applied to any marks that are armoured too.

[drifting quartz]

So this pulse scanner, headpiece I have that gives 100% haste...is it worth using s a skill

[static trout]

I can only get your numbers (the ratio from ST to 2 and 3 targets (from bluescreen dilemma) by having it all doubledip then averaging it out.
I'll show it after the weekend - if I remember - as I'm not at my pc much (Watching the CS2 major in person)

[thorny swallow]

ill dig out the formula from the code over the weekend too if you're still interested when you're back!

[static trout]

Ah, well then it hella sucks ahah

[rugged stratus]

Not really, it's on a bad brand for dps. The only reasons you would need pulse scan is for flatline and spotter talents, or heartbreaker. In either case it's better just to use the linked laser from tech class that pulses npcs you aim at.
That being said it is a named mask and would be worth using for a short time to make it proficient.

[wispy merlin]

or pvp

[hot ferry]

what is ensnare? (chem launcher)

[wispy merlin]

the status's name

for riot foam

trapping an enemy with riot foam is called ensnaring them

[hot ferry]

ah alr

thanks

[manic ice]

What happens if you get reported? Got in an argument with someone on a team and they reported me for telling them to ‘get f-d’

[tiny stump]

My question is. If they do anything about it, how long is it gonna take to happen

[inner tendon]

What happens depends on what was reported and kinda more importantly: if you've been reported for it before.

It's honestly best to just ignore people who trash talk like that, no one comes out of it looking shiny.

[lament bison]

How does actually the invaded missions works? I mean, I know they are sort of "bound" to the strongholds, my question is how to know which missions will get invaded in that day

Bc there are like 5 missions in the stronghold district

Is there a schedule or is it random?

[cedar schooner]

RNG

[lament bison]

💀💀💀

Well, ig it'll take forever then

[cedar schooner]

you waiting for Grand Washinton Hotel?

[lament bison]

Yea

I played it yesterday, but it wasn't invaded

[cedar schooner]

I've heard that it took as long as 8 weeks to come back into rotation.

so who knows how long it'll take

but yeah, gotta be invaded

[lament bison]

Man,is there another way to get the nemesis?

[cedar schooner]

someone who already has the BP can share it if it gets dropped for them.

[mellow trout]

that

[lament bison]

But that still relies on the invasion thing

[rugged stratus]

They take away your birthday...
They probably deserved it anyways.. nothing to worry, alot of ppl talk a lot of shit

[cedar schooner]

nope

[lament bison]

How does it work then?

[mellow trout]

someone else gets a nemmy drop, they can share it with you

though you'd still wanna do gwh at some point after to get the blueprint proper

[mellow trout]

while they're in your group

[inner tendon]

Just to confirm: you do have the rest of the parts right?

[lament bison]

Yep, the barrel, scope and idk the others name lol

[mellow trout]

tally iirc

[inner tendon]

Just to clarify: there is the base part from Adrestia, then 3 more from Strongholds, and the BP.

[mellow trout]

two needed to drop the print iirc but you still need them all to craft it

[inner tendon]

Aye, and once you have the BP it actually gets added to your own TL, so you can farm extra copies out whilst you wait for the Project to complete.

[rugged stratus]

As long as you have the blueprint, it can drop prior to project completion

[mellow trout]

can farm tl for one if you have the print tho

[rugged stratus]

Great minds 😅

[inner tendon]

Join us in the collective. We have t-shirts.

we won't eat your soul.

[mellow trout]

that sounds like something a band of soul eaters would say

[rugged stratus]

It would be a poor meal anyways 😆

There is probably a few weeks before gwh is invaded again. It wasnt that long ago the last time it was invaded.

Zoo can drop a random missing piece if it is invaded

[manic ice]

Thx for the reply

[manic ice]

Thx for the reply. Never been reported that I can think of but you’re totally right. Should’ve just ignored it

[lament bison]

This is what I've got so far:

MR: Barrel - the scourge
MR: Bolt - the scales
MR: Scope - the tally

[lament bison]

You mentioned 3 more... So there are 4 in total?

[mellow trout]

a lot easier said than done but we ought to strive to deny buzzkills attention

[inner tendon]

Scope from Tidal, then Bolt from Roosevelt Island, Stock from DUA, and Barrel from Capitol Hill.
and of course the Blueprint from GWH.

@lament bison Technically 5 in total including the BP.

[lament bison]

So I'm missing the stock

I'll do dua now

[inner tendon]

great timing Agent

[lament bison]

[inner tendon]

always worth doing the Invaded missions each week anyway, they give a nice little boost to xp over a regular mission.

[lament bison]

+golden bullet event

[hot ferry]

I might be insane but it didn't work let me follow you through my exact steps:

log out
log in
tp to space admin hq
turn 180 walk 10 meters give or take
retry 3 times

please tell me if I messed up somewhere

[inner tendon]

There are 40 something spawns for it to appear, might take you more than 3 tries.

[hot ferry]

idk they said 3 tries and I'm not in a position to question the words of the all mighty Rudolph

[inner tendon]

well theres a few words that no one has ever used to describe rudy before.

there are other methods to find the snitch if you are truly stuck, but the store isn't even open right now so

[hot ferry]

wait it isnt?

[inner tendon]

its on a set rotation, closed for x time, and open for y time.

[hot ferry]

ig I gotta save my 40 trillion textiles 😔

[hot ferry]

when is it next open?

[inner tendon]

few hours last I checked.

there are a limited number of caches you can buy each week just an FYI, although with 3.4k you'll run out quite fast.

[hot ferry]

run out of caches or textiles? 😟

[inner tendon]

both in your case.
the exotic one is about 500 IIRC.

[hot ferry]

any way I could get a list of what patches are in which cahces?

*caches

[tiny stump]

field proficiency caches, yr 5 season cache, exotic cache. not sure how many he has in stock

[inner tendon]

Wait, patches?

[hot ferry]

I'm sorry but am I on smth bcs I remember hearing word of patch seller

[inner tendon]

Ah yeah they're not in the game yet AFAIK.

[hot ferry]

thank god I'm not insane

[inner tendon]

yep, that's the "textiles for cache" vendor, no patches.

[hot ferry]

danny weaver is the supposed patch guy

have you checked this guy out yet?

[inner tendon]

Once a week of course, not that I buy anything but I like seeing new NPC's.

I don't need new gear tbh.

[hot ferry]

it is in the game already

this is a screenshot from IN THE GAME

there is a whole of 2 options here:
1: ubisoft had type moment
2: he does sell em

I think it woulda been corrected by now tho

[sharp knot]

hello complete noob here, should I get specific uppgrades first?

[inner tendon]

sorry i dont speak youth

[sharp knot]

I literally started to play

[inner tendon]

With the SHD watch? Doesn't matter which order, but it's recommended you get crit chance (CHC) first.

you'll eventually get them all.

[sharp knot]

on this

[hot ferry]

alright understandable,:
1: its really a typo and they meant caches when they said patches
2: he does indeed sell the patches you simply misunderstood the caches
3: you are blind
4: bomb has been planted (check inside your left kidney)

I love mispelling typo

[inner tendon]

oh nah anything is fine, you'll get them all.

[hot ferry]

that is an A tier L

[sharp knot]

ok cool

[twilit otter]

No patches being sold

[hot ferry]

so classic ubisoft L?

[inner tendon]

I have no idea what that means.

It was announced that they were going to be added "at a later date" and also announced that they were added in to the game but that was retracted.

[twilit otter]

I'm just saying there's no patches, not here to put down ubisoft lol

[hot ferry]

why didn't they say anything?

its still in the steam event log

and ingame

[inner tendon]

They literally did say that they're going to be added in later.

I read the same info sources as you do, just gotta check them. They're up in the various #news-and-announcements +categories surrounding it.

[hot ferry]

I feel betrayed by the season primer

[inner tendon]

just a heads up, we get this mistake a lot. Most people aren't going to default to "ubisoft sucks" on here. I mean this is an official server after all and people are here because they enjoy a MSV made game that's published by Ubi'.

[hot ferry]

I have a full 180 sorta on topic question that you may or may not know the answer to

can I put an xps3 on a cmmg banshee

bcs I wanna go spend countless hours doing control points for the eotech xps3 but I only really want it for the banshee

the needlessly raiser'd sight is killing me

[inner tendon]

modding guns in div2 is fairly simple overall: if you are using a crit based build, you throw on crit chance mods in every slot and the +20 mag size.

some times you change that chc mod to a chd (crit damage) instead, but it varies.

[hot ferry]

I purely mean will teh game allow me to put the xps on it

*the

its the eotech 552 but short

and I can't put the 552 on it

[inner tendon]

It might help if you mention what an xps3 is, I don't know guns.

I assume some kind of scope?

[hot ferry]

please read just above

short version of this

it is called the xps3

[inner tendon]

okay i just checked the spreadsheet and it's the +3% hsd sight.

not uh, not super useful on an smg.

[hot ferry]

"hsd"?

[inner tendon]

headshot damage.

[tiny stump]

yea dont go for weapon attachments based on their look

[hot ferry]

I wasn't asking for stats I simply want to know if the game allows me to attach it to my weapon

[hot ferry]

I can spare a little function for drip

[inner tendon]

if fits on both long and short rails, so it should fit.

[tiny stump]

might have to craft it first

[hot ferry]

my problem is I don't know if it can fit on short

[static trout]

Do you have the attachment?
If yes, open scope on weapon and check. Is it there? Yes? Then you can?

[hot ferry]

I do not

its only unlockable via lvl 3+ checkpoints and such

[inner tendon]

long and short. means it works on both.
long only is usually stuff like the big scopes and such.

[static trout]

I'm just gonna plainly ask if you know how the snitch looks and if you know what I mean with the green arrow - because this will work within a few tries for a simple reason. Despite him having 40+ spawn points, he doesn't spawn into the world till you get near one.

[hot ferry]

green arrow is the little indicator above npc's heads, it is usually small and points down to them, friendlies are green, standard enemies are red, vets are purple, and elites are yellow or orange

[static trout]

#ask-td2-community message

Picture for example, Snitch will be in there :3

[turbid igloo]

How do i create a pet seeker mine they look cute:(

[narrow matrix]

Just have a airburst or explosive or even mender seeker mine follow you around lol

At skill tier 0 they’re not very effective so 👁️

[turbid igloo]

Is there a way to create them irl and call it jeremy

[narrow matrix]

Get a hamster

[turbid igloo]

Jeremy the great seeker mine

Have you ever thought of how scary they would be if seeker mines started flying

[inner tendon]

put a roomba in a big hampster ball and set it to "roam".

[turbid igloo]

I'll make sure to plant C4 explosives with motion detection

[narrow matrix]

No pls don’t there’s already enough homing flying things in this game

[turbid igloo]

Imagine a drone carrying a seeker mine

[narrow matrix]

That would be the cleaners

[turbid igloo]

That's the scariest thing in the division universe

[narrow matrix]

No the scariest thing would be a named*** outcast rusher

[turbid igloo]

LOL

[narrow matrix]

😭 autocorrect

[tiny stump]

dang

[turbid igloo]

Did anyone screenshot this

For funny moments later

[tiny stump]

i wish

mine got erased the moment i hit send

[turbid igloo]

They should rework the bomber drone skill

[narrow matrix]

No that was rivens 😂

[turbid igloo]

My man is literally at the deep corner of forgotten skills

Make it a suicide drone like a seeker mine

[turbid igloo]

Meta incoming lol

[sharp knot]

should I buy the DLC from the start? or its at lv 30?

[tiny stump]

doesnt really matter when you get it. i bought a version with the base game and wony bc it was on a really good sale

[narrow matrix]

Play the game and see if you like it

[sharp knot]

I bought the game on release

but never really played it

but ive heard goood things about the game recently and Im looking for smth to play so

[cedar yacht]

play without the dlc and if you like then buy it

[static trout]

Put a claymore in front of your roomba

[static trout]

I mean. You just shoot the bomb

[narrow matrix]

You assume it’s not a nuke 👁️

Or an eclipse payload

[turbid igloo]

Imagine how cursed it would be if a seeker mine got human legs

And started running away

[inner tendon]

there's no hip joint so would they just sprout out either side and kinda flail on the ground?

[turbid igloo]

Imagine the whole body (the ball) is the hip joint

And they started running away

[inner tendon]

I think what you are looking for is the headless bombers from Serious Sam.

shout out to their endless yell. Never stops being funny.

[turbid igloo]

Fr

[hot ferry]

okay I think I'm going insane and I have the incorrect understanding of the alert system, could I get a refresh please?

[static trout]

Control points alert level?

[hot ferry]

yes

[inner tendon]

@hot ferry Lvl 3 is basically Challenging, Lvl 4 is Heroic.
at lvl 4 a Named Enemy spawns at the end of each "wave" (capture, then defense)
both Lvl3 and Lvl 4 drop 1 BP from the same pool of blueprints.

[hot ferry]

so whats the point of lvl 4?

[inner tendon]

more xp, named enemies for projects/more loot, more credits I suppose.

but if you're farming the blueprints and want an easier time, cp3 is enough.

[hot ferry]

alr, thanks for the info :]