#td2-general-chat

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warm blaze
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but honestly farm an ar targeted area and you should get a few exotic drops

edgy fable
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Good besides the high RPM I mean

south valley
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yall wont believe me but ive been farming the hell out of tageted AR in countdown not one exotic has dropped for me and ive been doing that for like 3 days not

silk otter
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retaliation is also ok alternative choice , i literally crafted memento backpack from there because it refused to drop from priority objective

edgy fable
south valley
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its been fun but rough on the drops

edgy fable
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Do Retaliations with other people in terms of loot, great source

south valley
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been buying the caches too im getting everything but ARs out of that haha shottys LMGs gloves pistols no ARs

edgy fable
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Keep at it, just a matter of time until RNG gives in :p

south valley
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oh ima keep rolling only a matter of time lol ima give this carbine 7 a try

edgy fable
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Long before Lexington, expertise etc. it took me half a year or so to get a god rolled Police M4 for instance

south valley
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thanks for all the info!

brave idol
edgy fable
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Those are good for exotics too

south valley
brave idol
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Imho the only thing countdown is good for is gear sets

edgy fable
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Play a bit longer and you'll notice it's good for several things

carmine kettle
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Hey this is kind of a weird question but I haven’t seen anyone answer it yet, why do the Outcasts do propaganda and how do they get new members?
Like i assume they don’t just have an infinite supply of people from Roosevelt Island and they seem to hate everyone who didn’t actively go and riot for them to fight for their freedom.

sweet needle
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Probably through other survivors of the Green poision, if I had to guess

carmine kettle
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Like the quarantines from the main-land?

sweet needle
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yeah, and others who sympathize with what happened to them

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Just a guess idk for sure

carmine kettle
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Well there’s always another potential way, through the magic of “poor planning” (not the first or last time that a game like this has had that issue, I’m willing to overlook it for that)

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Like everywhere has propaganda to recruit but the Outcasts have propaganda to keep their troops hyped up. They don’t actually get new recruits, it’s just that the people who made the game didn’t think it through and were killing clones of the same ones because it’s a fun concept and many people (myself included) are willing to overlook that for the deeper image

junior cipher
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Does anyone know the chance rate of the eagle bearer in the DZ ?

edgy fable
strange chasm
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i thought it only drops in raids, not in dz

edgy fable
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It can drop in the DZ

junior cipher
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Ok thx

edgy fable
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Together with the Ravenous and Bighorn

junior cipher
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With low low low drip rate lol

edgy fable
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Do the raids 😉

rocky harness
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This game is the best military warfare 3rd person game I ever played tbh

strange chasm
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well, i guess i'm lucky since i already have all 3

junior cipher
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I’ve never have people to do the raid with

quick wolf
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What about the Mastery Exos, are those exlcusive to the missions or are they available from DZ too?

edgy fable
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Raids have the better drop chances. Or wait until they're given out again like candy with an event

strange chasm
junior cipher
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I’ve been out of the loop on the events

edgy fable
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Tempest being an exception as it can drop from floor 100 Summit

quick wolf
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I figured as much, I really wish MSV does an in-game listing for which Exotics drop where and from which enemies.

junior cipher
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Does the summit rest or does it stay ? If it stays I have floor 60

quick wolf
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Something like a menu screen that shows weapon information on Exotics.

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Kind of like Destiny in a way.

edgy fable
junior cipher
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Ok kool

quick wolf
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Division 3 def should have an Exotic menu if you ask me.

strange chasm
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it only resets after you've cleared floor 100

edgy fable
vocal trout
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hi i have a few questions, is there a gun in d2 like the lmoa-c from division 1? i noticed they both got nerfed by being turned into rifles (lightweight m4 included) and idk enough about the game to figure it out on my own yet

quick wolf
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Yeah I got those, INF. I even frequent the community google doc at times.

edgy fable
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Lexington AR which is usually available during special events. There is no Lightweight M4 AR in Div2

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@vocal trout

quick wolf
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I wish I had image perms to show what I mean.

edgy fable
vocal trout
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when will the next event be so i could get this Lexington AR, is it exotic? named?

edgy fable
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Named item. Probably during the next Stretch Goal event but I cannot guarantee that

white tundra
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i just want the quickstep

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god bless me

edgy fable
white tundra
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yea issue is iv been trying

edgy fable
white tundra
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have already

vocal trout
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also uh, matchmaking in this game seems awful, so far, is there a world tier thing going on or is level 40 gear just universal access to all content end game wise

white tundra
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reddit as well

jagged prism
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goto your favorite streamer and see if they have a Discord. then check with peeps there

white tundra
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its ok it come back at some point im sure

jagged prism
vocal trout
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so theres no bs gear scores mechanic? i can hang at heroic with a build?

edgy fable
quick wolf
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Gear score was done away with after WONY released.

vocal trout
quick wolf
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It's still in the game for those without it, but Lv. 40 gear takes over post WONY.

white tundra
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ehhh with amount poeple ask for it i dont think there is a ton in the game anymore

jagged prism
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<=this guy solos mostly div2shrug

edgy fable
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The people who are willing to help out don't lose the bounty. They share it with you and then leave

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I'm sure there is still a decent amount of players having bounties

vocal trout
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are the dlcs worth it? do they add new darkzones, raids, incursions? are gear sets locked behind dlc?

jagged prism
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playing this game sinces it's inception, i'm kind of at a "need something new" but can't find anything that has a Div 2 pull 🤦‍♂️

quick wolf
# vocal trout i got the game 2 days ago ;-;

You'll have to deal with Gear Score if you don't plan to get Warlords of New York.
Once you start WONY, you'll be stuck in lower Manhattan until you complete the DLC. The level cap gets raised to 40, and from the point onward all gear drops at Lv. 40. No gearscores whatsoever.

quick wolf
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Oh wait, right. they removed that req like two years ago innit?

edgy fable
jagged prism
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WONY and BFB doesn't add any pvp
wony gives you 8 masks, 4 skills, 1 named Chest i think it was?
bfb 8 masks, 1 exotic mask, 1 named chest

quick wolf
# vocal trout im lvl 40 with no dlc so

Yeah, I forgot they removed WONY for the Lv. 40 cap. I think you still need the DLC, though, if you want the skills and specific gear associated with the DLC.

jagged prism
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BFB they gave the Rykers and Cleaner Control Points some interesting but annoying defense

edgy fable
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BfB is a little tougher than the rest of the OW

jagged prism
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you wont believe the cries we've heard people about not getting the exotic mask 😹

quick wolf
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Which one? Tinkerer?

vocal trout
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wut exotic mask

jagged prism
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Catalyst. when you're close to an enemy and get them under a status effect it increased your weapon damage

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because of that, i thought with hunter's fury it'd make hunter's fury stronger but was imagining things 😹 petter

vocal trout
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also 6 piece gear sets got moved to chest and bag traits? so you dont need all 6 slots of strikers, just the bag/chest and 2 other pieces?

quick wolf
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Or is the benefit weak compared to running another Exo? Like it's just underwhelming to use?

jagged prism
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think it was just underwhelming

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24% weapon damage, plus 24% status effects, at max stacks 25% bonus armor and 20% reload speed that's not affected by the stacks. just a flat out percent per kill while the enemy is under status effect

quick wolf
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Probably would have been worth if the DMG increase was calculated as an amp instead of a flat increase. A shame.

jagged prism
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yeah, was probably just another Additive damage instead of multiplicitive

smoky quest
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The status/hazpro on it don't help either

jagged prism
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the 24%'s are 2% per 1 stack at max 12 stacks btw
1 stack gained while your enemies experience any status effects
2 stacks gained while you're on fire petter

quick wolf
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By the way, quick question. I've been away from the game for like a year now. I don't remember how Obliterate works. It doesn't count pellets for shotguns right? Just the one round as a whole?

jagged prism
quick wolf
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I assume Obliterate only counts the one shot, not all 6 pellets? At least that's how I remember it.

jagged prism
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i'd assume each pellet as the pellets crits, but probably not all them crits

terse current
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Is d2 usually easier than d1? I’ve just begun and completed my first story mission and I seemed to one shot/ 2 shot enemies with my base sniper. I’ve also started accumulating green loot already, whereas in division 1, I remember replaying the first island’s final level like 6 times because I kept dying and enemies wouldn’t die easy. And got my green loot maybe 3-4 missions into the game.

quick wolf
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F it, I'll test it out and just look at the HUD when I shoot things.

jagged prism
vocal trout
terse current
quick wolf
jagged prism
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d1 and d2 are you talking about division games or you going on about destiny because i don't remember an island

terse current
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D2 I got it in my tutorial playthrough itself

quick wolf
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Wdym First Island's final level?

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I'm not understanding that bit.

vocal trout
quick wolf
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Yeah, that's... not ringing any bells. The final mission was an assault on the UN complex that was under control by LMB.

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If that's what they meant.

vocal trout
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yeah that

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god i hated lmb rushers, so so much

quick wolf
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I mean... that mission wasn't particularly difficult, no. Legendary is the highest difficulty there is, and I'd say it's about as hard if not a tiny bit harder than Div 2's Legendary missions.

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I would honestly argue that Division 1 is a heck of a lot easier for the most part. You don't have things like explosive spam or anything like that in Div 1. It was just shoot without getting shot at.

cedar phoenix
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Bruh the game won’t stop disconnecting me😭 I genuinely dk what’s up it’s only the division games that are doing this

quick wolf
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Also Classified sets in Div 1 made the game stupid easy.

cedar phoenix
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But even division 1 which I have on ubi launcher still gives me delta

edgy fable
# cedar phoenix Yeah

Steam has its weekly maintenance on Tuesdays. Restart PC and modem/router, might help you. If not, gotta wait it out

jagged prism
junior cipher
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do i need to do pentco fairview main mission to access countdown ?

jagged prism
junior cipher
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ok

cedar phoenix
quick wolf
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For example, even with 4p Reclaimer, that was all you really needed if you had like 9K electronics.

jagged prism
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not playing it legendary. i meant on our first play through of that mission. i don't remember having classifieds back then when i first did that mission

edgy fable
quick wolf
vocal trout
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does paradise lost only have 1 difficulty level?

quick wolf
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I think so? It's like Raids I think.

iron tide
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does floor 60 boss give you higher chance of exotic loot than say floor 10?

edgy fable
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Discovery, easier and without exotic reward chances and the normal difficulty with exo reward chances

quick wolf
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Yeah, that. Discovery is meant for learning the ropes. But it's a pointless difficulty because mechanics found in Normal are either reduced or absent altogether on Discovery.

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Don't even know why it's there unless you just want players to learn the map, I guess.

edgy fable
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I never played them in discovery mode myself, can't say

terse current
quick wolf
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I distinctly remember asking about it once during a Raid, and the leader, who supposedly played Raids daily said no one plays Discovery for exactly the reasons stated above.

No meaningful rewards, and doesn't teach the full mechanics.

quick wolf
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No, that mission is pretty easy. Even on hard.

terse current
terse current
quick wolf
terse current
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Or could be I happen to spawn with better weapons in d2 than d1

iron tide
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i guess you dont know man chat is quiet

quick wolf
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Once you start doing Legendary, that's when you can't one-tap all enemies, even with a sniper build.

terse current
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In d1

quick wolf
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Right, but the point I'm making is that NPC scaling is pretty low in Div 1.

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They definitely go down really easy.

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If you really, really want to make a direct comparison, truthfully both games are pretty well balanced in their own contexts.

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You can make a case for when certain parts are harder or easier in either game, comparatively. But they're both about the same, I'd say.

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You can just about solo any content that doesn't strictly require multiple people to complete, in Div 1.

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Like... you can't do Dragon's Nest solo because it hard requires multiple people push buttons simultaneously.

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Or Stolen Signal, because you need to defend three hostages in quick succession.

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Clear Sky is doable solo, it's just the infinite ads spawning needs to be managed carefully.

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The point I'm making is, depending on the context you could say D1 is easier than D2, if your criteria is "can I fully solo this game?" Which for D1, you pretty much can, even on the hardest difficulty setting.

terse current
iron tide
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10 bosses on legend and 0 exotics.......

edgy fable
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Lol

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10 is not really much

iron tide
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i stoped counting at 10

vocal trout
iron tide
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for me L is hard so it makes it even worse

jagged prism
quick wolf
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I mean... early game experience for me was pretty easy, at least. Like I never was cornered into using a medkit or anything.

edgy fable
iron tide
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no the shroud

jagged prism
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becuase the npcs in div 1 were serious bullet sponges

edgy fable
iron tide
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i just said

vocal trout
edgy fable
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What activity / where? My bad

iron tide
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summit on L

edgy fable
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You don't have to do legendary to get the Shroud tho

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That only applies to the Bighorn AR

quick wolf
# vocal trout what was early game? 1.6?

I don't remember exactly when I joined. I think I started playing Div 1 right around when Falcon Lost was actual hell because you needed 1 guy dedicated to popping blue on Rusher waves, lmao.

jagged prism
iron tide
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no i dont

edgy fable
iron tide
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i just thought it was like BH as i farmed that too

edgy fable
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Run Countdown, Retaliations, open world targeted loot for instance

vocal trout
edgy fable
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Why did you think you'd have to do legendary for it?

jagged prism
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the time they took to run legendary for it, probably would've had the blueprint from Retalations and the materials to craft it by now 😹

iron tide
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id rather do no brain things

jagged prism
iron tide
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stuff i can do on repeat without thinking not new systems i have not touched

quick wolf
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Endgame was something else in those days, but I never had to use a medkit on anything other than Heroic or Challenging. In that sense, I thought D1 was easier than D2.

iron tide
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thats not a no brain thing

edgy fable
jagged prism
iron tide
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i just said i dont like cd

quick wolf
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But I mean... I still never armor kits in D2 either.

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So that's why I'm saying, they feel mostly about the same overall.

iron tide
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well i thought i did

edgy fable
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Well try open world targeted loot then

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Summit isn't a good place to farm, more to go fishing for items

jagged prism
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funnily enough you could've been running retaliations probably for a better chance of getting it 2ish ways.
getting the blueprint or getting it dropped 😹

quick wolf
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Like you could say D1 or D2 is harder, but I think they're about the same in their respective difficulties. Like I'd find D1 Challenging to probably be about as hard D2 Challenging.

iron tide
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what dont you get about no brain concepts like as in i dont want to do something new as its not a no brain thing to do something you have not done before

jagged prism
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div2shrug yet you're complaining about killing 10 bosses and no shroud

edgy fable
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Bro, if you want it bad then go farm for it properly

quick wolf
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What is it you're trying to do Zashk?

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Oh, he's farming for something? What is it?

iron tide
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get guns i have not got before

jagged prism
edgy fable
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You're given options here, up to you if you wanna farm or not

quick wolf
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I mean, yeah. Summit or CD is probably as good as you're gonna get for a farming environment.

jagged prism
edgy fable
quick wolf
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If he doesn't like CD or Summit, that's a personal problem I wish them Godspeed in dealing with however they see fit.
But the facts are that those two modes are the best for farming items without much effort.

jagged prism
quick wolf
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The rolls will definitely be better, but it's not really worth the squeeze,

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Legendary is what you do for like... min-maxed mods.

jagged prism
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the amount of time they spent there, probably would've had 2-3+ runs and 3-6 exotic caches to attempt at getting it Edit: via countdown challenging

south topaz
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U can't even reroll shroud now due to some bug

iron tide
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where did i say i didnot like summit im at summit as its the most brainless thing i can do in the game

edgy fable
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Overdogs too I heard?

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If you wanna farm Summit you should enable directives. And you can lower the difficulty to heroic

iron tide
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i dont care about xp

edgy fable
edgy fable
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I hope for you you set targeted loot to Marksman Rifles tho :>

iron tide
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yes i did

edgy fable
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Did you not know that directives increase drop chances of targeted loot?

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The elevator tells you that

iron tide
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does it?

jagged prism
edgy fable
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Si, it does

iron tide
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like i said im doing it brainless its 3am and im trying to play myself to slee

quick wolf
# iron tide where did i say i didnot like summit im at summit as its the most brainless thin...

Zashk, the problem with Summit, especially on Legendary, is that it's so slow compared to a lower difficulty or Countdown.
The amount of drops in a single Countdown match is like the equivalent of more than 15 floors of Summit. You're easily getting between 40-60 loot drops in Countdown.
Just the sheer amount of drops alone is already heavily tipping the scales in your favor. And if brainless is what you want, Countdown is as brainless as it gets. You just turn off your brain and go autopilot, following whoever is leading.

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If you don't like CD, then I'm sorry to hear that, but that's the facts right there.

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Summit is inherently slower paced.

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And playing on a higher difficulty does you no favors.

jagged prism
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only reason people like summit is going on Legendary to try and get a big horn multiple of times compared to farming 4 legendary missions in DC

iron tide
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if someone always counts pi to the thousnath place every night that too would be brailess when they get used to doing it

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i have not done cd enough to do it brainless as i dont like it

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i play games not to think

quick wolf
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Countdown is the epitome of don't think, just run, lmao.

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All you do is just run from encounter to encounter, that's it.

iron tide
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i just said something becomes brainless when you know it enough

quick wolf
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If you don't know where to go, someone else will and it's just follow the leader from there.

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Zashk, Countdown is literally brainless from the get go. There's nothing to learn other than run to encounter and shoot gun.

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What more brainless than that do you want?

edgy fable
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True, true

quick wolf
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If you don't know where to go, then follow people. That's literally it.

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There's nothing else to it, dog. It's a clown fest.

jagged prism
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imagine playing a game to not do anything new? think we'll never see them in div 3 when and if it releases in the future petter

iron tide
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i just said im doing it brainless its 3am and im trying to play myself to sleep how clear do i need to be i dont want to do anything new right now im trying to tier myslef by not using my brain by doing something so dull

edgy fable
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We should stop trying to convince them now

iron tide
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i dont know how many times i need to say why im doing it the way im doing it and why i dont want to do something i dont do as its by doing something different that will keep me awake

quick wolf
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I mean... I just don't understand what point is of arguing against CD.
He's literally asking for 3 things.
• Targetted Loot
• Brainless gameplay
• Fast Farming
CD literally ticks all 3 of these boxes without issue. But f it, I guess... I'd understand if he just doesn't like the mode.
But to then complain that farming is so slow while ignoring the game mode that provides everything he's asking for is truly something else. lol

undone timber
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It's going round in circles better to leave them to their own devices

jagged prism
quick wolf
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Yeah, I'm done. I'm not gonna say anything else.

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No point. div2shrug

iron tide
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something to me becomes brainless if i have done it so much that there is no new thinking inloved i have not done this with CD as i dont like it so why would i want to get to the state where it is brainless

quick wolf
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Yeah, Zashk. Whatever you say.

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Good luck farming Shroud, brother. Hope you get it soon.

undone timber
edgy fable
iron tide
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will be dead by the time 3 comes out anyway

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so no need to think about that game

edgy fable
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Welcome to my ignore list

quick wolf
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lmao

jagged prism
quick wolf
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This would be the perfect example of a case study on player behavior.

iron tide
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why would it

edgy fable
south topaz
iron tide
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shame i have to go to the effort of doing it too it should be both ways

jagged prism
silk otter
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on PC you can get something like Vencord that act like a mods that has option to truly hide the messages from people you ignored

still juniper
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which idiot at ubi decided to make turret parts used in 35s instead of 30s

edgy fable
still juniper
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you can only craft them in 30s, why in gods name make it usable in 35s

jagged prism
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speaking of ignore messages 🤔 do i click that show to see who it was?

vocal trout
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so am i j screwed on finding a team to do a raid? or if i post will people actually dm

undone timber
jagged prism
still juniper
quick wolf
vocal trout
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;-; no i got the game 2 days ago im new too all of this

still juniper
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ill dm it to you

iron tide
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now the game is trolling me i just got sweet dreams

quick wolf
south topaz
jagged prism
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nope, not on their server. pretty sure googling "GCRock" would find you a video with a link

maiden swift
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This golden bullet event can we get the Lexington from it?

jagged prism
edgy fable
iron tide
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you missed the xmas event you could have got them from it

vocal trout
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are the raid/incursion exotics any good? are they j guns or

jagged prism
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🤔 though i did have fun using EB with Zealot active modifier last season 😹

edgy fable
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Regulus is what I use most out of the four raid/incursion weapons

vocal trout
quick wolf
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Anyone got a map of all the BFB named enemy spawns?

jagged prism
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get headshot, oh i don't think i got enough kills. let me pop zealot to be sure

vocal trout
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also i got the bluescreen is it any good or nah

jagged prism
quick wolf
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There's a build that works wonders with, don't remember it tho.

south topaz
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EB needs more offensive power to use its talent they nerf it a lot

jagged prism
vocal trout
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whats a good gun to use with striker?

quick wolf
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Anything

south topaz
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Elmo lexi

quick wolf
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Literally anything works with Striker, lmao.

vocal trout
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yeah but

kind veldt
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wouldnt recommend slow rifles and bolt actions

vocal trout
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whats THE BEST gun to use with striker

kind veldt
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focus on high rof weapons

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lexi

quick wolf
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You can use an ACS-12 to build stacks and just swap over real quick for memeing.

vocal trout
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okay, whats THE BEST gun to use with striker that's OBTAINABLE

south topaz
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Lexi the best ikia stat certified

quick wolf
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But overall anything high RPM works.

vocal trout
kind veldt
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pick between, police M4, Famas 2000 and some other

edgy fable
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Go for Police M4 or Carbine 7 if you want close to Lexí

quick wolf
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Shotguns build stacks exponentially.

vocal trout
jagged prism
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basically each pellet from shotgun if it hits, gives a stack

kind veldt
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well striker was really bad on release here

vocal trout
south topaz
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Devs literally gave stack broker for stacking faster petter

jagged prism
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yeah remember. each missed shot = 2 stacks going poof petter

silk otter
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classified striker and normal striker in d1 is very different if i remember it right

quick wolf
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In any case, Striker is still just ooga booga firing me gun.
But there's plenty of really good DPS/bruiser builds that are equally great.

jagged prism
quick wolf
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Burning EP is fun if you want to be a ball of cancer toward NPCs, for one.

vocal trout
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yeah, i j picked striker bc it doesnt require me to know a lot, since im j now getting into division 2 but want a end game build

jagged prism
vocal trout
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is there seriously no gimmick smg like the house in this game? like at all no banger smg exotics?

kind veldt
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chatterbox is busted

jagged prism
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we vets tends to push new 40's to that build so they can feel they contributed to the mission and use it to grab other builds that may interest them

edgy fable
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Chatterbox with Golden Bullet is the best

vocal trout
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whats chatterbox ;-;

edgy fable
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Well, most fun at least

silk otter
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Exotic SMG

south topaz
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Ouroboros

kind veldt
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P90 exotic

jagged prism
vocal trout
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;-; and it does what

kind veldt
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gets faster ROF the more enmies are around

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also kills refresh the magazine

vocal trout
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ty

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dlc or nah

silk otter
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base game

quick wolf
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Jello, if you want a good DPS build that gives upfront DMG without any extra mechs or anything. The standard red DPS build is just Coyote with 3P Providence + Fox Kneepads + Ceska/Grupo piece. Glass Cannon + Vigilance.
This is literally the best upfront DMG for as little trade-off as possible.

jagged prism
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ouro = you experience any status effects. after you reload your mag gives that status effect back 😹

vocal trout
jagged prism
quick wolf
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^

vocal trout
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i like DESPERATELY wanna do a raid/incursion

silk otter
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i don't think WONY DLC had any exotic tied to it though (it does have new skills tied to it) , Brooklyn dlc does have one at the final mission

quick wolf
#

Why? What are you trying to get out of Raids?

jagged prism
edgy fable
quick wolf
#

lmao

kind veldt
#

get the basic striker, get the police M4 or Famas 2000 and that is good enough for DPS role

edgy fable
#

Think you said you started playing two days ago

vocal trout
quick wolf
#

I'll warn you right now, Raids can be fun, but Divsion 2 specifically is very basic with its Raids. They're like stronghold missions with 7 other people. Most bosses are just DPS checks.

jagged prism
silk otter
kind veldt
#

hunter-killer

quick wolf
#

Hunter Killer no?

edgy fable
#

Hunter Killer

vocal trout
jagged prism
silk otter
#

oh that one

kind veldt
#

they are

#

raids are pretty much coordination check more than anything

quick wolf
#

Comms? A little bit. But you really only need a few people talking if at all.

vocal trout
#

does the game have an ingame text channel thingy

quick wolf
#

Like 2 or 3 if that.

silk otter
jagged prism
#

being on comms just to listen to people giving orders mainly

kind veldt
#

it has ingame chat

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but 99% of the raids are done using VC

jagged prism
#

has ingame voice chat as well, but it's turned off because you know internet

vocal trout
#

i dont have vocal chords which is why i ask, on shit like destiny 2 im fine, bc ik everything like the back of my hand but im in new territory so

kind veldt
#

if you want something that is harder on DPS check but easier on comms you can try the incursion

#

also it's for 4 people and has matchmaking

#

someone can just say o ntext what do before each encounter and should be fine

vocal trout
#

yeah this entire convo ive been matchmaking and havent found a soul, so i think im gonna try begging for people to play in the lfg server lmao

jagged prism
quick wolf
#

You can do text-chat just fine. Like I said, only like two or three people ever talk. Too many people on comms just muddies things unless everyone is just shooting the shit and having a good time.
But for actual, like coordination? No, not really comms heavy.

jagged prism
#

just hope people are quiet for them new people to learn the mechanics

quick wolf
#

Yeah. Just be very sure to do Normal mode and Normal mode only.

#

Discovery doesn't have the loot you'd actually care about and either reduces or omits mechanics straight up.

#

So Discovery doesn't even teach you anything at all.

jagged prism
#

could probably semi solo Dark hours story mode to get the lay of the map, but the mechanics is nonexistant

vocal trout
#

btw whats the most autistic, cancerous, slimiest, pos cheese build possible for pvp rn

#

i wanna be a total pos with the build

jagged prism
quick wolf
#

I'm very happy I've never set foot in DZ. :>

vocal trout
#

i love darkzone, i shit on servers in division 1, god i love it so much its so enjoyable

jagged prism
#

btw: roguegold said the PVP coordinator job position is delisted. so hopefully we'll see some PVP love sometime

vocal trout
#

im kinda butthurt bc the dark zones look so... depressing and soulless in this game compared to the joys of d1 darkzone, size and server count

jagged prism
kind veldt
#

well you are going to die in PVP because you dont have maxed out niche gear with lv 30 expertise

quick wolf
vocal trout
jagged prism
#

not sure if you can be annoying pre experitise 30. but i imagine having System Corruption + decoy would be semi annoying 😹

vocal trout
#

yes but darkzone 1 was so so fun to run across that gigantic map and just be evil and gank every living soul with reworked nomad

quick wolf
#

Couldn't you just run EP with Riot + Jammer and just never engage anyone?

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You'd be pretty effin annoying with that.

jagged prism
#

far as i understand it. Currently the top PVP builds are headshot + armor regen, heartbreaker, some iteration of pure Haz Pro

vocal trout
#

no, i want the cheesiest things possible so i can solo full squads and get called horrible things

jagged prism
#

we're not mentioning it, but cheaters are pretty rampant in all platforms from what i've read

quick wolf
#

Mmm. I wouldn't even really know. I never played PvP for Division.

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Yeah, that's another thing. Tons of script kitties in Division 2.

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Too many people with either fragile egos or hate when others having fun.

jagged prism
#

PC probably the worst with teleporters, 1 shot headhots. heard even an auto nemesis exotic sniper rifle

edgy fable
#

The pinned spreadsheet has a few too

jagged prism
quick wolf
edgy fable
#

Y7S3 I think I saw

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Oh Y6S3

jagged prism
edgy fable
jagged prism
#

i got level 30 Dark Zone but i did all that think before WONY? or shortly after WONY before we got the toxic builds we got out there now

jagged prism
quick wolf
#

Well, the thing about Nemesis, right, is that it's just overkill for anything in the sniper class.
It's does so much unnecessary damage, it's funny.

edgy fable
#

Idk, out of the five people I've seen in the DZ none of them used HB

quick wolf
#

I once did 114M damage with it. Not the highest ever in the game, but still. Overkill.

edgy fable
#

(I also have a three year gap and am not fully up2date)

quick wolf
#

Highest still goes to Regulus, I think.

jagged prism
quick wolf
#

There's a way to deal 200-300M damage with Regulus or something.

quick wolf
#

I don't remember the specifics though. I saw it one-shot the first boss of Iron Horse.

#

Funny af.

edgy fable
#

Kestrel is into one-shotting stuff a lot

jagged prism
#

why can i never remember the name of that pulse skill? but i hear that sound everytime i think of it? 😹

edgy fable
#

Archilles

quick wolf
#

Yeah, that one.

jagged prism
#

👴 here can't remember shit 😹

edgy fable
#

It refers to the archilles heel of your enemy to easily defeat them

#

In this case it highlights the weakpoint

#

And you deal massive damage

jagged prism
#

nods and coutns as a headshot too doesn't it?

quick wolf
#

I will never not find it funny that Devs will nerf the decent stuff that's usable but not broken, but they don't even touch shit like this that can oneshot a raid boss.

jagged prism
quick wolf
#

Also, is there no map for the open world bosses in Brooklyn? I can't seem to find one on Google.

jagged prism
#

so i imagine nerfing that is probably akin to "how much backlash would we recieve if we nerfed it?"

unique summit
#

determined is technically broken, so it would be a fix and not a nerf

quick wolf
#

Bullied by their own players.

#

They also nerfed Scorpio which was fine as is. It wasn't even the highest DPS shotgun in the game.

jagged prism
#

ubisoft was going backrupt, so if the players didn't fight back they'd probably be done and we'd be redoing seasons by now

#

div 3, resurgence and now the definitive div 1 would be in a trash can burning

quick wolf
#

Player Support is definitely one of the biggest flexes Division franchise can lay claim to. Most games definitely would not have gotten this far.

jagged prism
#

but now they got a strong backing it seems. as they've been giving us new stuff 😻

#

hearing we might get new challenging stuff, new items and PVP finally getting their time to shine

#

hopefully they rework System Corruption and then add other pvp brands/gear sets/weapons 👀

vocal trout
#

okay the incursion is ez

#

already done and got the chameleon

jagged prism
vocal trout
#

yeah these guys j drug me along

#

i surprisingly did dmg just, was at risk of being 1 tapped

jagged prism
vocal trout
#

yeah but i got the chameleon which im excited about, now i j need to farm an acs at some point

junior cipher
#

anyone know why this happens to me the raid boss door not opening after the i beat the boss razerback

vocal trout
#

if i were to uh

#

wanna do the assault shield thingy on striker

#

what would be the best method of achieving that

jagged prism
vocal trout
#

non

#

also does the shield health scale with duration on top of skill tier thingies

jagged prism
#

most people tend to use Memento Eoxtic Backpack to strengthen it by 2 cores

#

awww, if we did the pandora thing from yesterday = you done them all? 😹 sighs

vocal trout
#

whats the pandora thing

jagged prism
vocal trout
#

oooh i want fashion how do i get that

high river
#

i saw anubis bundle and i quickstepped on over

vocal trout
#

what gear set should i get from summit next :D

#

ew they brought back measured assembly?

high river
#

which did you get?

vocal trout
#

striker

high river
vocal trout
#

did they overhaul it or something

#

fugg it im choosing eclipse protocol bc it sounds interesting from the name and nothing else

#

dagnabbit i forgor im supposed to be killing hyena bosses rn

high river
#

it still does the anti kabooms but also gets skill tiers per teammate, overcharge with chest piece, all while healing cuz u need hive or smart cover

hybrid viper
#

Master difficulty meh. So not enjoyableZ

hybrid ore
#

You'll be able to handle it eventually, it just takes time.

fiery osprey
hybrid viper
#

“Strategic is keyword”

Take 4 mag to dump 1. Elite 👀

small spear
#

i mean scaling wise they're easier than leg so there's that

#

if you're taking more than half a mag to kill an elite idk what to tell you but you probably have too many blues

jagged prism
#

or an unsynergistic build

hybrid ore
#

Or not even trying it, and just assuming it'll be bad.

#

too meta?

sonic portal
#

Why are all of the collectibles saying to unmark them as objective but won't change when I do such?

hybrid ore
#

Are you asking why are the collectibles being marked as uncollected if you've already gotten them?

sonic portal
#

No, I can't mark them as an objective (GPS)

hybrid ore
#

Honestly can not check that, as I've finished mine.
Anyone can give them a hand here?

jagged prism
#

i imagine if you're far away enough, it'll give you a GPS to it, but once you're in the vicinity it'll go away. so you gotta figure the puzzle from there or Google the thing you're looking for and see if a video gives you the direction

#

at least that's the only time i lose my GPS tracking

hybrid ore
#

Yeah the GPS likes to just vanish when you're close, like a real GPS in a car does.

#

Ya know, when you get close to your destination and the boss music kicks in.

sonic portal
undone timber
#

And this is why we have favourite as an option

sturdy echo
livid niche
#

yo i just started playing this game

#

can any1 help me

hearty river
#

Can i get emperor knee pads on name item cache?

jagged prism
daring kiln
#

So I already had the cipher mask but when I killed him again he dropped a key.. what's up with that?

#

Also I have a lot of DC hunter masks but only a couple of keys lol

jagged prism
#

i'd say either you didn't pick it up last time you hunted them or it's a bug

livid niche
#

could any1 guide me through the game rq i just started

thin oasis
remote lynx
#

I wish if we had funny Reddit flairs like "Negative Ramos" or "They got Alex" in here 🙂

thin oasis
# livid niche alr bet ty

If you get stuck you can always use the call for back up feature.

However it's likely you'll be joined by a high level player with at least a half decent build and you'll just be a passenger while they tear through the enemies.

Part of the game is figuring out how to complete things when they seem tough.

Use the environment and learn to position properly to take minimal to no damage. It'll help you in the long run

proper marten
#

whole game

thin oasis
#

Don't be afraid to run missions more than once and try higher difficulty early on.

It gives you a better feel for the mission. 90% of endgame is learning the enemy spawns and behaviours

proper marten
#

for some people 3 hours for some people 4000 hours who knows

remote lynx
#

I think my game time in D2 is 3k hours or smt

proper marten
sonic portal
#

I'm confused. After getting Keener, is that it for the main story?

thin oasis
#

What was the last mission you did?

sonic portal
#

Liberty Island

thin oasis
#

Thats the final mission of WONY.

BfB is next

sonic portal
#

Ok

terse current
#

Are the PS servers down?

smoky quest
#

How the hell are you supposed to loot everything at the end of retaliations in 30 sec?

hybrid ore
#

If you play Retaliation well, you have plenty of time to loot stuff as you go.

#

Just leave one enemy alive and go get stuff.

smoky quest
#

I had to chase the last guy 50m outside the CP. There was no way to get back to the loot room...

hollow hill
#

^ it's not supposed to

smoky quest
#

What? You can't go in until he's dead and the targeted loot changed back to the zone's instead of the custom once it kicks you out.

terse current
#

Guys I keep getting kicked out of the game

#

Getting delta 3 error. How do I fix it?

smoky quest
#

Not snipers

#

That's more of a workaround than a solution. It's just odd that the timer is so short for no reason.

tacit yoke
#

i totally didnt just scream as i got disconnected when i was doing retaliation

hollow hill
#

Nothing more fun than being mid CP fight and a kill squad spawns directly behind you from a sewage drain and you die. Hive drops, a late rusher runs over my corpse and self detonates, making my hive go bye bye too. I had 7m on the clock. Instantly failed the retaliation. I haven't played since

tacit yoke
#

what is the best non exotic pistol

hollow hill
#

I run heroic always, as challenging to me feels like a cakewalk. Mainly due to the reason being that I've played Master/Legendary solo and cleared them a dozen or so times. When that situation happened to me, the game felt so rigged to tip me at a guaranteed loss 😂 I got so pissed. I've been on a div 2 break

@tacit yoke Quickstep pistol bc sanic movement speed

tacit yoke
#

like i have prof m45a1 at 10 right now

hollow hill
#

You'll want quickstep because movement speed

tacit yoke
#

man i got born great doing more damage than lexington

hollow hill
#

That's because G36 has slightly more up front damage compared to Lexington. G36 also shoots decently slower and has worse accuracy than the Lexington

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You'd be better off trading a little bit of that up front damage and pooling into rpm for more burst DPS. Nevermind the fact G36 accuracy at range is awful. Lexington can take a damage talent

#

Basically what I'm saying:

Take Lexington

thin oasis
#

Outside of 10m you might as well throw G36 rounds at the enemy...you'll hit more

tacit yoke
#

true, i havent swapped it out unless i got my shotgun as i use it as long range

#

i have the ouroboras as my exotic

hollow hill
#

Born Great also probably is the one that has the stability and accuracy talent stuff so it will probably be a laser

thin oasis
#

Exotics arent always needed

hollow hill
#

And ouroboros is kinda meh rn

tacit yoke
#

i have a decent amount of exotic but its my most used

hollow hill
#

Depends on what build it is

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I stopped touching ouro the day they nerfed it

tacit yoke
#

its a mess idk what im even doing lol

hollow hill
#

Sounds accurate

thin oasis
#

Ouro and Chatterbox kind of fall off at higher difficulties. Mainly due to poor magazine damage. Chatterbox struggles to keep itself up and Ouro requires you to take hits to get something out of it
..which you want to avoid

tacit yoke
#

yeah chatter was the original but i hated how random the fire was, ouro was more consistent

hollow hill
#

Chatterbox is stack dependent on the # of enemies you have within like 15m of you

#

So if you reload with 4, it'll shoot however much 4x stacks is worth

thin oasis
#

If you want to use an SMG then you're better off just using a high end SmG9 with Measured/Unwavering or the Dark Winter

tacit yoke
#

let me see my list of exotics and tell me if i have any decents, i know eagle is good but im always stuck

hollow hill
#

Eagle Bearer? It's okay, at best. St Elmo's overall has the most usage right now VS Eagle Bearer

#

You'll find eagle bearer used more in pvp or solo play

tacit yoke
#

strega, bluescreen, iron lung, overlord, sweet dreams, dread edict, nemesis, diamondback and bittersweet

thin oasis
#

There are actually surprisingly few exotic weapons that are good, and very few that are top tier.

Elmos, Backfire, Shroud, Regulus, Scorpio are some of the best

#

Bluescreen, Iron Lung too are good

tacit yoke
#

yeah but its crap i cant use the shield with it lol

hollow hill
#

Strega is okay with 3 piece unit (equalizer + salvo), Ceska bag Vigi, Grupo, and overdogs gloves

thin oasis
#

Strega has a crit issue, thats its only draw back

hollow hill
#

If you go full Vigi and glass cannon, it's basically stackless

thin oasis
#

Only 5% CHC on the gun

hollow hill
#

On gearsets it's a bad choice. On high end due to Unit Alloys now, it's definitely worth considering strega

thin oasis
hollow hill
#

A decoy will be your best friend

thin oasis
#

Decoy/Drone or Turret, all will pull aggro

hollow hill
#

Even using foam is an acceptable option

thin oasis
#

And EMP sticky to proc the bluescreen

hollow hill
#

My top 4 non shield skills are easily Decoy / Sticky / Foam / Banshee Pulse

thin oasis
#

Drone and EMP feature on most of my builds lol

tacit yoke
#

i have the revive as im a liability and sheld

hollow hill
#

I've been on a high end brand set build compared to our overly used gearset metas we've got rn

#

DPS, HH/Determined, Shotgun, Pistol, etc

#

I'd really like to see SMGs get another gearset. One that's actually good

tacit yoke
#

i just feel as long as i can kill i feel accomplished lol

umbral yew
#

Hi guys, is Countdown with AR loot set still the best way to Farm St elmo ?? No luck yet

unique summit
#

the targeted loot for countdown also applies to retaliations so there's a chance you'll get a drop too

graceful imp
#

Goodmorning, returning player here and have a quick question. is there a way to get the lexington without having to wait for an event ?

acoustic aspen
#

I apparently have years worth of unopened clan efficiency crates in my storage

graceful imp
full zinc
#

Habsburg unicorn detected 👀

lunar hare
#

WHERE

full zinc
#

👆

native turtle
#

It sucks that you can't customize your true sons Ally

full zinc
#

You've already been replied where to post this, to make it more clear you post it in #lfg-playstation . Ill be deleting this again. Post it in the correct spot moving forward

full zinc
#

Alive and slow dripping coffee intravenously petter

still juniper
#

I wish I could do thar brother

#

I've been trying to drink a bit less coffee lately

small spear
#

I'm tending to the animals

#

the crocodiles and the birds

full zinc
#

🔥

potent nest
#

so is div 2 worth getting back into? gonna be mostly solo unless i can find lfg groups

still juniper
#

lfg groups are very available

potent nest
#

last time i played div 2 was iron horse release i think

still juniper
#

as a guy just getting back into the game as well i've hardly ever been alone, though lfgs here are quite slow so i and many others recommend using the gcrock server

#

birdshot and riven if i remember correctly also recommend the same, and they're mods so dont just take it from me

valid sable
still juniper
#

wrong again, i've been finding folks for retaliations, legendary/master mode content, incursions, everything

potent nest
#

not to toot my own horn but i dont mind solo,in other games ive played ive down challenging content solo like soloing destiny dungons flawless or raids etc,im asking if its the game is worth it to get back into

#

u know what i mean

valid sable
potent nest
#

do i have to do raids? other than raid exotics do they offer something that u cant get in legendary missions and what not

still juniper
#

no lmao

#

other than exotics they offer basically nothing unique but gameplay

valid sable
potent nest
#

i mean when i played eaglebearer was like a must have because it was so broken,and aces and eights was a broken set too

remote pecan
acoustic kindle
#

the only way to farm Catalyst mask is from army terminal only right?

small spear
#

the most consistent way, yes

acoustic kindle
#

aight

cinder nacelle
#

Loving the new AR brand set. I'm overhauling my basic AR general purpose loadout and it shredds now.

native turtle
#

Hopefully the division 3 game location is on the west coast

still juniper
#

Honestly I hope div3 is a lot bigger of a game, give me vehicles and stuff

potent nest
remote lynx
#

This makes less sense... why items from retaliation just disappear when the state of things like whether a control point has already been looted persist.

#

The only solution to this bug is leaving one bad guy alive so I can run around and loot as much as I can before taking them out so I don’t miss anything.

valid sable
#

do you have the Quickstep gun? that solved the time problem for most

naive cypress
#

I can't progress properly in TD2, can't find anyone to matchmake with

valid sable
#

have you tried calling for backup?

kind veldt
heavy ocean
#

So... we get Anubis skin which has been taken fron asia version of this game and now i find out they added Paragon Valkyrie skin in Rainbow six siege which clearly looks like a Valorant skin, im very scared in what direction this both games goes, Rainbow six siege which meant to be a SWAT/tactical game with irl special forces unit and The Division in "apocalypse" world with goverment secret agents.

kind veldt
#

rainbow six was already going full crazy with those skins for years

#

remember ricky and morty skins?

heavy ocean
valid sable
#

They are just following the money my man. If you want a hyper realistic tac-shooter without any trace of goofiness...

kind veldt
#

while i cant promisse the division skins being the same forever, at least all i know they are toned down version and the exagerated ones from china havent come so far

#

R6 was already beyond saving waaaaaay before the new paragon skins, i absolutely hate R6 cosmedics

heavy ocean
#

Im just hoping that The Division will be not a next victim of the CoD/microtransaction skins for crazy prices

valid sable
#

it already is? that Anubis skin is the price of a DLC

heavy ocean
#

which, Anubis for 3k premium credits is already a crazy price

coral rock
#

I hope that stopwatch like thing as a bacpack troophy mentioned for the D1 Survivor will be added to D2 store for those who does not play D1.

remote pecan
heavy ocean
remote pecan
#

I don't like it either, but that's how it is

kind veldt
#

i find that unlikely since we also dont know how well those sell

still juniper
kind veldt
#

busy with summer showers

still juniper
#

We're still getting battered by snow

astral jacinth
#

Anyone know how many extracts needed to get the backpack trophy for survive fest?

kind veldt
karmic dust
#

So if I buy The Division (first game) do all the. DLC still hold value? Or basically buy the game and then survival DC js really all you need

#

Haven’t played first Division Game since month it came out

ember yoke
karmic dust
#

I mean the first game

ember yoke
#

Ah sorry!

karmic dust
#

Sorry original Divsion game, seeing so much talk about it

#

Also, does buying it on Steam matter at all than getting it from Ubisoft store?

karmic dust
#

Oh ok, gonna see if it was cheaper on Ubi Store

valid sable
karmic dust
#

Is all the DLC still playable or are people mostly just playing Survival

valid sable
#

I played Underground last week on both PS5 and PC and it was full of people grinding. I'm guessing is a smaller playerbase than Div2 (10 year old game after all) but its still pretty alive

karmic dust
#

What’s survive? Basically like a free for all

#

Battle royale without the storm?

#

Seems like whenever someone mentions D1 always mention that game mode

valid sable
#

don't worry about the DLCs, you have many hours ahead just by playing the base game. If you can't get enough, get the DLCs after. Survival mode is a separate mode from your main character, like a rogue mode where you always start from scratch without anything, and with added mechanics like disease and cold.

karmic dust
#

sometimes I’ll be on D2 (PC) trying to matchmake and I can’t find anyone….if I am matchmaking for a mission, and if I enable two global directives (like fog of war), does that mean the game will only find other people who are matching with those same parameters? Sometimes it takes forever and never find a group.

#

Oh, you can die by the cold in D1?

valid sable
valid sable
cinder nacelle
karmic dust
#

Any tips to find people easier? I am thinking obviously playing current stuff (like whatever missions and stronghold are the focus for that week are) and maybe current missions (like Avatar and Golden Bullet for instances) but any suggestions to find people quicker? Or find people at all

valid sable
karmic dust
#

Countdown and Descent have a bigger player base? What about the raids? I don’t care what I play in D2 I just love playing with a group of people. Mainly because I am a healer and don’t want to redo my whole build. (Always been healer type)

#

Sometimes I’ll matchmake for a mission, actually frequently, and never find anyone.

valid sable
karmic dust
#

2 Gig download speed (wired) very fast

#

That’s one thing I don’t mess around with. Always have good internet where I live and always wired

valid sable
#

yeah internet is not the issue

kind veldt
#

callfor backup usually finds people to join you

#

what has an active matchmaking varies a bit from timezone and activity

karmic dust
#

Ahh I could try backup. Just thought matchmaking is a way of showing people what you are trying to do without using chat

cinder nacelle
kind veldt
#

countdown is always finding groups in less than 30s, random missions varies a bit if you are matchmaking and expect people to join you or you are trying to join any mission

karmic dust
cinder nacelle
#

Yes

valid sable
karmic dust
#

What about raids? Are they hit or miss?

#

I know back then Raids almost required voice chat and that’s kind of unheard of in this game now

valid sable
#

Raids still requires voice chat for coordination, and a full group.

kind veldt
#

cant mathcmake in game

#

so need to people to invite you

karmic dust
#

I never really did voice that much so I never really did raids. When I did, I never had any significant role and usually got carried. Honestly still don’t know exactly what’s required for each raid. Never been explained to me

valid sable
#

they are pretty basic videogame mechanics BUT requiere coordination of many people for them to work

karmic dust
#

So basically all activities in the game have a decent amount of people playing at any given time??

#

Yeah and I am not one of those who cared to do easy mode or whatever mode they added later on

valid sable
karmic dust
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If I am not getting rewards, I don’t feel like doing it

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Oh ok yeah I am Eastern Time Zone

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So basically it’s a crap shoot; any activity has a decent level of activity?

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What do you think are most popular if you had to guess? Countdown….

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Descent? Any specific raids or missions or strongholds? What about anything else in particular? Thanks for your help

valid sable
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Everything but descent and raids is popular.

karmic dust
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Descent is going down ….and what’s the one going up?

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Like I thought they had one going up in levels

valid sable
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the Summit

karmic dust
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Ahh yeah

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Someone mentioned one called Retaliation

valid sable
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Thats the newest one

karmic dust
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Thumbs up or thumbs down in your opinion?

valid sable
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Retaliation is amazing lol

lunar hare
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retals are fun and an alternative for solo players or console players without an active sub

karmic dust
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What do you mean active sub?

lunar hare
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on consoles you have to pay a subscription to play multiplayer on most games

karmic dust
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I thought if the game wasn’t free to play, you had to pay the monthly fee for your console

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So like Fortnite, Warzone, all free

small spear
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there's a multiplayer fee if you're on console

karmic dust
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But like any game that requires you to buy it requires a subscription

small spear
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no u can play div2 for example without that online subscription

karmic dust
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You mean on top of the fee to play online?

small spear
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no they're separate

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div2 u buy at a flat price

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but to play in multi u need that online subscription

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whatever it's called, without it u can only play solo

karmic dust
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Is that for both Xbox and PS?

small spear
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seems to be so

karmic dust
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Is a fee that Xbox and PS requires

small spear
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it's pretty stupid imo

karmic dust
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So like if you pay PlayStation to do Div multiplayer, and then you ge game on Xbox, have to pay again?

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I only thought there was a fee to play online for games that weren’t free to play

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And that was basically the fee you paid to have internet on your console

kind veldt
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playstation + and xbox gold usually

karmic dust
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Because usually online gaming is multiplayer

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Usually if you are online, you are doing multiplayer. Wild they would make that separate

kind veldt
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nintendo also has paid online

karmic dust
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Oh so the free to play thing is only for Xbox

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So PlayStation players still have to pay for multiplayer for games like Warzone

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On top of whatever they pay to have internet at home??

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In your opinion, do you see more PC players or console players playing Division 2

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I remember when game came out, you couldn’t matchmake for longer than 2 secs there were so many PC players but overtime it switched and for some reason it became less popular on PC but if you were on console, matchmaking would happen so quick

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And lately, well even like a year or two ago, you would try to matchmake and sometimes not even find a group

lunar hare
kind veldt
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i admit i havent keeping up with xbox rebranding

lunar hare
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Well, it was rebranded and not deleted

karmic dust
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But for games like Warzone, and games you don’t have to buy, online multiplayer is free or is not free?

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Sorry confused at that part

karmic dust
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Or free for Xbox players but not free for PS players

lunar hare
karmic dust
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Oh ok

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Seems like maybe the line is drawn around cooperative multiplayer

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As opposed to versus multiplayer

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But like you said, varies.

Is that for every call of duty game?

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That you could play multiplayer but not zombies??

lunar hare
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I may be wrong but BO6 went FTP

oh no, not even multi

karmic dust
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Oh I see

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Well if you bought the game, and say you wanted to play deathmstch, you had to buy the ability to play deathmatch

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But Warzone would cost you $0 to play no matter the platform (no cost for the game obviously and no subscription needed to play it)

lunar hare
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yeah, as Average said, it's ridiculous and unnecessary but they have to get their own money somehow

karmic dust
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So when you buy a higher tier (like above essential) you basically buying the ability to play through cloud and/or streaming the game remotely in some cases ??

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Does Xbox or PlayStation still give you free games to play? I am guessing you only get access to those games if you stay subscribed??

lunar hare
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yup, cloud is great for old gen players as long as they have good internet connection

lunar hare
karmic dust
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Cloud is basically like Netflix of games (they have a choice of games, new and old, you can play through cloud)

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And correct me if I am wrong, but you don’t have to download any of those games to play on cloud

lunar hare
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exactly, it's awesome

karmic dust
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Like the game itself and everything about the game is handled remotely

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So all it takes up is your internet data

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Which for many is unlimited

kind veldt
karmic dust
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Does that let you say, play a game on your PS Plus, say, a couple hundred miles away??

lunar hare
karmic dust
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Oh I’m gonna peace out anyways. Thanks for the talk

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I might hop on The Division 2 later

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Thanks for the nice chat ya’ll

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Real quick, anyone have a link to a really good offensive type build…like either a link or a quick screenshot or run down of equipment

lunar hare
kind veldt
karmic dust
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I prefer assault rifle but also have this pretty dope automatic shotgun that I really like.

lunar hare
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If you want I can get on and teach you the basic stuff

karmic dust
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Hey @kind veldt all the pins aside from 1 are almost a year old

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And a couple are 5 years old…or are they updated to stay recent?

lunar hare
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oh don't worry about that, the Spreadsheet is up to date

kind veldt
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the link is the important part

karmic dust
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Well not to be rude, but I don’t want to spend time staring at a spreadsheet and comparing numbers. Just kind of want maybe a couple decent offensive builds and what to look for

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Okay thanks man

kind veldt
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thats how i know you didnt click the part that just shows what you need for a build in the link

karmic dust
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Oh ok let me check it out

lunar hare
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The builds in there are very straightforward and some are a little more detailed than others

kind veldt
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most of the time it's XYZ piece, A exotic and this couple of weapons

karmic dust
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So where it says Link to Spreadsheet, click that

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Thanks man. Just realized this is a hella of a lot easier on a desktop to check out.

lunar hare
jagged prism
karmic dust
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Thanks for the help. I really appreciate it.

Last question about builds,

Is it still viable to go for 4 of 6 pieces when making a build or is it better to just find independent pieces??

lunar hare
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I don't find it hard to understand, for me it's a scaled down version of the desktop one 😆

lunar hare
hybrid ore
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There's apps that make reading google.docs much easier, if you're having trouble.

karmic dust
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Are gearsets still what people go for or are people just looking for independent pieces?

jagged prism
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brand sets (gold color) 1-3 pieces is good, for gearsets (blue (colorblind) or green) you need 4 to make the talent work or you're basically nerfing your build because they come with a core and 1 minor attribute

kind veldt
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depends a lot of what you want to make

lunar hare
jagged prism
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think Hotshot is the only one you can make work with 3 pc. i go 4 or none

kind veldt
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stick to gear sets if you want easier time

karmic dust
small spear
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it's mostly gear set meta rn, high end is only the strongest option for only 2 build types

hybrid ore
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I like to think that's just google messing with apple users, but it's probably just a multi-resolution thing for phones.

jagged prism
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<=still goes to a high end 3pc providence, fox's, contractor's, grupo mask or if i'm feeling adventurous coyote's when i just want brainless damage

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do have a highend 3 pc unicorn lengmo pestilience build. thing was a monster farming for, especialy backbone backpack petter

lunar hare
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I hate unicorn pieces but I also love them but I hate them more than I love them

jagged prism
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funnily enough, i'm doing a skill tier unicorn build as well. my alt account. i'm missing 1 pc 😱

still juniper
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I finally got overdogs, took so damn long

jagged prism
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basically it's 3 pallisades with crit chance and damage so i can freely change the core (fixed talent) chest or brazos de arcabuz piece, then 2 brazos pieces with chance and damage on it. maining a capacitor with memento

hybrid ore
north obsidian
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ya posting here just in case, we've been waiting for a bit

hybrid ore
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Sorry, can only in the right area.

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You can post in the community/GCrock servers for more reach.

jagged prism
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think here, most people got the raid exotics and never went back unless they're feeling generous and help someone else out

north obsidian
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at this pt im largely playing for story since ive never seen the raid in its entirety

hybrid ore
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I used to raid in a certain other online game with a regular team, and we ran it wayyyyy more than we got proper rewards for it.

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Sometimes you just do it for the fun of it.

north obsidian
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im guessing they've stopped making raid content because most of player base doesnt care enough

jagged prism
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well, they had other projects they put probably most of their team on and only gotten manhunt targets consistently
some of their teams went to Avatar game and Star wars game

hybrid ore
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Incursions are likely the way of the future, as they're well, easier to get into for players, and don't require a dedicated pre-made group system.

jagged prism
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so i think it's more they didn't have the resources to make new raids. even if they did, with how we ran DH and IH gotten exotics never go back for the most part

north obsidian
jagged prism
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incursions? yeah would be nice to see more. least 1 for each faction 🤔

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don't need to tie an exotic to it, just give it to us for more content 😹

thin oasis
hybrid ore
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The current Incursion we have for div2 was called "the first incursion", so I think it's fairly safe to assume it won't be the last.

jagged prism
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i honestly thought we would've gotten 1-3 since they put it in div 2

velvet widget
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how does one complete mutiny challenge 2 if the federal triangle is completely surrounded by true sons preventing hyenas events from happening

stark heron
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That way they control the named zone

jagged prism
exotic halo
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Quick question, how does one get those watches on your backpack looking like some sort of accessory/trophy

I also started doing the Keener manhunt which is not too bad, when do I get the foam sticky nade? Are there other rogue agent tech / abilities out there?

stark heron
jagged prism
stark heron
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Foam Grenade is part of the Gunner Specialisation

exotic halo
jagged prism
exotic halo
jagged prism
stark heron
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That or the Memento Exotic

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Probably the apparel though

jagged prism
stark heron
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Fair

jagged prism
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wasnt a fan of it "the picking up trophies bit" and a serious misunderstanding of the short and long term buffs

stark heron
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Its a different sort of playing style

hybrid ore
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It's really not that different, since even just collecting some every now and then still makes it excellent.

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There's a reason why most folks in the know, consider it the best Exotic in div2.

jagged prism
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<= i assumed the bonus armor bit was the strong bonuses and was like "why do people like this?!" found out the hard way 😹

hybrid ore
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Think of Memento as a playstyle reminder.
Stay aggresive, and you stay strong.

high river
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i like memento’s because it almost fits any pve build

kind veldt
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works great for solo, bit iffy on groups

jagged prism
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nods if you're not getting kills you're not getting trophies

thin oasis
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Its good for solo or carrying. Good to hotswap too if you answer a call for backup where they're struggling

south valley
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Any good way to find elite patrols instead of running around like a chicken lol

jagged prism
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Maybe a white panel van with a "free item" will bring them out

random cairn
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Just bought the game on steam.. having some annoying glitches though. My the game's button UI switches to keyboard and mouse when I am using xbox controller.. any fix ?

green badge
lunar hare
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you can refill with ammo boxes, gunner helps too, or have enough dmg to kill without wasting too much ammo maybe div2question

random cairn
kind veldt
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double check the steam input thing

random cairn
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Turned of steam input - even rebooted after just to make sure. Still mixed inputs. No clue why. googled this problem, it's not super uncommon apparently.

grave narwhal
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anyone new wanna play?

brave idol
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did you see ubisoft announcements today? they are shutting down stockholm branch and moving division, ghost recon and splinter cell brands into a seperate branch

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combining that with the exec producer leaving feel a bit sour for divison 3

fading tide
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The new splinter cell animated show deathwatch is solid 👌 so far

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Very solid tbh so far

half jay
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Anyone know where the snitch spawn is?

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I've only found him once

jagged prism
lunar hare
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there's no set spawn, its random

half jay
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Gotcha, it's different per person

jagged prism
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he stalks me 💀

half jay
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They should add another snitch that tells you where the snitch is

safe jungle
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waht are answer scout 8

tepid sluice
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Has anyone had horrible ping issues lately?

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Latency issues

jagged prism
tepid sluice
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my latency is 60ms and up nothing im doing is working

edgy fable
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Since when is 60ms "bad"?

tepid sluice
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you're kidding right?

edgy fable
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I'm not

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I'm usually between 50 and 60ms since the game is out

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I played CS with up to 60ms ping. Nothing bad there. As long as you don't have packet loss and your ping isn't jumping you're imagining things

jagged prism
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i think you made it on someone's ignore list 🤔

edgy fable
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Me?

jagged prism
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yeah, they haven't responded since you said you were not kidding 🤔 you'd think by now they'd say something

edgy fable
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Let's see. If so, I couldn't care less, lol

jagged prism
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i remember hopeing i'd play a game having 60ms 🤔 which seems close to playing as if you were in a lan party

kind veldt
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during middle 00's due servers in my region being rare

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got used to playing on 130+ ping

weak edge
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hello all, when is realistic mode coming out?

kind veldt
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we dont have an exact date on that yet

jagged prism
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we got as much information as you at this moment

kind veldt
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just vague information from the japan event

edgy fable
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I used to play CS 1.3 or so with dial-up modem, so nobody can tell me 60ms is bad

weak edge
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ok np, just would really like to try it

jagged prism
edgy fable
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ISDN! Was a great boost back then

tepid sluice
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this game is lagging like crazy

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my other computer in the house is at 30 ping

edgy fable
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In Div2?

tepid sluice
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yes

jagged prism
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🤔 if you got wifi, i'd double check all you have connected to your wifi

edgy fable
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Sounds like an issue with your PC then, lol

tepid sluice
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hardwired cat6

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i was thinking so but other games ping is lower like 18ms

jagged prism
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besides the point. if your connection to your ISP has Wifi and it's enabled. anyone near by can connect if you don't have it set up with a password

edgy fable
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I mean if one PC in your house is at 30ms and the other at 60, it could be your internet (hardware) but it could also be your other PC

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Given they're both hardwired

kind veldt
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i mean it could be the game for sure, what region are you on?

tepid sluice
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in north america, but it just started happening

jagged prism
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i almost wanted to ask if you're on a VPN

tepid sluice
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no vpn

kind veldt
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well cant do much other than keep an eye on to see if more people will appear in the similar issue

jagged prism
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<=west coast, but i'm not playing atm so couldn't tell ya

edgy fable
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My server US West all good

jagged prism
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didn't seem bad when i played but that was probably hours ago at this point

tepid sluice
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yea im at a loss, flushed dns and reset winsock

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done everything except reinstall the game

edgy fable
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Could try verify game files but I doubt that'd help. Did you try restarting your internet hardware? Guessing you're on fiber?

jagged prism
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like i said, make sure your isp connectiong doesn't have wifi on it and enabled. in case you live in a close place like apartments, where someone can be on your wifi watching minecraft youtube vidoes 😹

tepid sluice
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nah not on fiber

edgy fable
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Try resetting modem/router then

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Restart PC on top, wait 'till internet is back and try again

jagged prism
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for me it's almost like it's standard you pay an ISP for interent they send you hardware that has Wifi on it. they probably have it enabled but no password set for it or some easy password to use it like 12345 or password

hybrid viper
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OD build you want status effect or Crit?

edgy fable
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Crits

thorn light
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are servers down?

jagged prism
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probably for you and your region

edgy fable
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Not for PC at least

thorn light
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im on PC right now and was in a retal then poof... server is down

lunar hare
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delta error?

tepid sluice
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im logging in

jagged prism
tepid sluice
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what coast are you on?

tepid sluice
thorn light
edgy fable
jagged prism
thorn light
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no, got disconnected then at the bottom of my screen there was a server closure thingy, forgot what it said exactly

edgy fable
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Oh

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That means the server you were on was restarting. Reconnect and you'll get thrown into another server

thorn light
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i alr closed and reopened the game but ill try it again incase i did it to fast

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yeah thats it fixed

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is there way to also add the PC role to me to also show that i am on Ubisoft app?

edgy fable
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Yes

jagged prism
thorn light