td2-general-chat

[opaque lion]

finding sniper enemies and doing grenade kills is boring me rn

[hybrid ore]

the kill squad spawns as youre fighting the final wave of the CP, so you sort of need to ignore the NPC's shooting you in the back to go get them.
i assume it'd be simpler with more than 1 person, the other player distracts the CP.
just a little tweak where we need to signal that we're done would be nice.

[jagged prism]

you know when you take a control point normally you have to be in an open area to fire your flare?
retaliation we have a touch our watch mechanic to initiate the retaking process

[opaque lion]

retaliations are gonna be better if i have all modifiers

[desert crystal]

So theres no flare at all now

[hybrid ore]

You need to finish journey 2 to unlock them, which i probably should focus on first.

[jagged prism]

only during the retaliation

[jagged prism]

i tried. only manged to do the 2 asssault with headshots in 1 magazine

[desert crystal]

So is it just normal control points inless you get to journey 2

[hybrid ore]

Retaliation is underlated.

Journey 2 just awards the modifiers.

[desert crystal]

Is retaliation thre regardless

[hybrid ore]

Retaliation is something you build up by doing LZ stuff, then you can activate it.

[thick yarrow]

do military dog tags only drop from true sons during retaliations?

[thick yarrow]

it also builds up during countdown as well

[hybrid ore]

any particular faction?

[desert crystal]

Outher than that there’s no difference then

[thick yarrow]

depends on who takes over the power plant during the session

[jagged prism]

ok, i like the thorn hunter mask

[thick yarrow]

but do the military dog tags component only drop during true sons retaliations

[teal steeple]

Helloooo

[jagged prism]

believe so

[jagged prism]

in #ask-td2-community #ask-td2-community message

think they have it pinned in that channel

[teal steeple]

The new update is already out?

[torn beacon]

What is the fastest way to level up active modifiers? How long does it take from your PTS experience?

[jagged prism]

i say depends which way you go about it
activate and kill then wait on cool down probably a long time
over
running specific faction retaliations

[torn beacon]

The activate and wait sounds like it will take a long time! Do you have an example time of how long it took to take over 1 zone? Directives help or just like season XP where it has no impact, only world difficulty?

[fair adder]

whats this new gamemode all about?

[torn beacon]

I guess you can activate the modifer while taking over a faction retaliation to get a little extra @jagged prism

[thin oasis]

hahaha

[thin oasis]

The more you piss off the enemy...the more they will push back. Eventually they'll retaliate and attack all CPs in a specific region.

You're against the clock to stop them, or you can abandon and it'll give them all the CPs back.

[tiny oar]

i wonder why retaliation doesnt include black tusk

[torn beacon]

Do you really run out of time in retaliation? No time to look at our loot?

[thin oasis]

You're against the clock. If you run out of time, you lose.

There isn't enough loot to fill your inventory from any single gamemode....why do you need to check each piece?

[tiny oar]

its a time attack so yeah, also you need to loot before killing the last enemy, after that you get 20s and then everything is wiped

[solemn acorn]

whats up with the gian black tusk drones flying around, are those new or have i just never seen em before

[tiny oar]

the marauder ?

[solemn acorn]

i think so

it flies around and has misiles and shit

[fair adder]

That seems like a fun mode

[thin oasis]

That's been in the game a while

[indigo lynx]

Incursion

[solemn acorn]

first time i see em tbf

[tiny oar]

its normal, you can fight one at the end of pentagon mission

[torn beacon]

Is that a tactic to get a few seconds to look at the loot drops, open the control point chest or does the last enemy appear by themselves?

[thin oasis]

If it hasn't been fixed it's buiggy as hell and it's hitbox is hella broken

[tiny oar]

they spawn as waves

so be sure you can loot everything before its reset

[torn beacon]

Ok I see, thanks for that tip!

[thin oasis]

Pro tip: Stop looking at loot. Just pick everything up and check it later.

[torn beacon]

So like countdown

[thin oasis]

Like any game mode. Nobody checks loot before they pick it up

Just run around spamming F

[solemn acorn]

real

[dark flicker]

Had a guy last night in mm using mmr in full group, sitting all the way in the back and took 3~ mins to look in each area before going forward. I wanted to die

[torn beacon]

That is a long time lol. I was talking about a second to scan or deconstruct right there.

[fast quarry]

Hey agents is the one time offer bundle priced correctly on pc or is it a bug?

[vapid crypt]

It does seem overpriced compared to the last few

[dark flicker]

Should be bug

They said it would be $20 and its showing as $30

[torn beacon]

Some are saying it is a pricing error? Not a visual bug lol.

[dark flicker]

Yes if you buy it you get charged $30 and they wont refund you

[vapid crypt]

$50 here to the usual $30, pain...

[torn beacon]

Is it still listed as $20 on their official media outreach?

[dark flicker]

Hope its fixed soon i was gonna buy it and get a new outfit or two xd

[vapid crypt]

Right? It looks so good, I hope it's just a mistake

[thin oasis]

They will absolutely refund you, if they've made an error in pricing LEGALLY they will have no option but to refund it.

[dark flicker]

No pricing error would be it showing $20 and charging you $30

If it says $30 and charges you $30 they would have no reason to refund you

But i would be glad to be wrong

[dry stag]

Hi all. Is it still possible to get the Tinkerer Mask from Y7S1? I dont have the mission yet and cant get it anymore

[thin oasis]

It's a good job you're wrong then.

If they've advertised it at 20, and charged 30 through a pricing error then they'll have to fix it. Once they fix it, legally they will be required to refund those who bought it at the inflated price.

[torn beacon]

On the ubisoft webpage for The Pact, it says:

Don't miss out on this exclusive One Time Offer, available for $19.99 or your regional equivalent. It includes 2000 Premium Credits plus a bonus 600 Credits. And as a bonus, you'll walk away with rare Red Eye Headgear, a cosmetic built to turn heads as much as it protects them.

[vale rune]

Alle outfit sets are premium nothing is with texstiles why....

[dark flicker]

Yes, theres a tab to go do older manhunts

[vapid crypt]

Cheers for getting the info behind it, glad to see it was just a mistake

[thin oasis]

Legacy manhunts

[torn beacon]

This kind of stinks for the pricing if you want the season pass to get the extra 10% bonus XP

How well do all red ar builds hold up in retaliation heroic? Any build will do?

[dry stag]

Thanks for the info ❤️

[dark flicker]

Okay looking around online tells me they should but don't always have to, they can say it was a mistake and not have to honor it

Im not rlly trying to argue I just dont want ppl to buy it and expect their $10 back and not get it yk

[thin oasis]

Imo, Ubi doesn't need more bad press.

[dark flicker]

Very true

[short axle]

Bad reception is specific only to cleaner drone controllers right?

[spare cove]

Yes

[thin oasis]

You know what annoys me, and it's such an easy fix.

Global Modifiers being visible on your HUD from miles away and while enemies can't even be seen.

They should be invisible if the enemy isn't in sight

[dark flicker]

I got so used to seeing the symbols above enemies heads. I am about to play now and can alrdy tell im gonna be lost

[blissful lagoon]

W season

[thin oasis]

Really is, these ROF buffs are freaking nuts

[solemn acorn]

just did my first retaliation, pretty cool

[desert crystal]

dose retaliation only count for a CP

[solemn acorn]

didnt get any kill squad spawns though

[hybrid ore]

any activity by that faction counts for Retal'

the usual trick of "do the CP, then do anything connected to it" works well.

[torn beacon]

Is there matchmaking or backup calls for retaliation ?

[desert crystal]

so any hyena activaty counts for the hyena one

[lime fulcrum]

man im loving this season bro rpm is brrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr

[remote pecan]

Tempest goes brrrrrrr

[spare cove]

https://trello.com/b/F2RU9ia9/the-division-2-known-issues

Yeah, so they're aware of the pricing error.

[thin oasis]

SMG9 Killer striker is freaking nuts

[valid sable]

Chatterbox new meta? They knew it, thats why they released a premium skin for the gun

[grim rain]

Is it 3xp?

[vital aspen]

I was at season lv 150 but didn’t get the Lexington nor the Turnoil. How to get them?

[grim rain]

You get them on the 12th

[vital aspen]

Thanks

[thin oasis]

September 12th

[sinful jasper]

Who the hell is theatre vendor?

[grim rain]

The vendor at the theater settlement

The person under the sign that says vendor

[shrewd oak]

Can't be him

[grim rain]

Lmao

[thin oasis]

Of course it can, because that's who it is....

[fiery flicker]

Anyone else think they're building towards bringing back the LMB for this seasons climax mission?

[thin oasis]

Fast travel to the Theatre, it's literally the guy standing right behind you.

There's a sign above his head. It says "Vendor"

[shrewd oak]

WhAt hApPeNeD tO My BaCkFiRe bUiLd

[lunar hare]

why is my backfire hazpro striker ninjabike build not working

[thin oasis]

Honestly, NInja Bike backpack needs an addition to it "You are vulnerable to team fire while wearing this packpack in PVE"

[shrewd oak]

Lmfao

[dark flicker]

Dang, I am back to being overwhelmed and not know what to work on xD

3 weeks of mindless grind made me lose track

[vale rune]

Why cant i play Coop retaliation, ask for backup

[lunar hare]

i swear this devs doesn't make they're work right 😠 😠 I've been playing since released and never encountered such bad work 😠

[thin oasis]

The game itself hasn't changed, just the mechanics

[shrewd oak]

Let me equip an additional backpack and I'll accept that FF feature

[thin oasis]

I don't know, ask Eric why he won't play

[vale rune]

Whos eric?

[thin oasis]

Cantona. Since that is what your comment said before you edited it 😉

[dry drum]

hi

my freind delete his main he can recover it ?

[teal steeple]

ubisoft just out a tweet about the inncorect price

[vale rune]

But serious you cant play coop retaliation on heroic, when lower difficulty rewards , weapons and such wont be maxed out like atributes...so....? Dorky?

[dark flicker]

Just still new and gotta pick 1 thing to play and not stare at the screen thinking "crap which should i choose"

[teal steeple]

they said they know of the issue and trying to fix it, and if you payed for the incorrect price to reach out to the store provider once the issue is resolved and they will issue a refund

[dark flicker]

Im gonna look up how to get chatterbox and similar exotic cus never got any in caches xd

[dark flicker]

Nice

[lunar hare]

tell him to contact ubi support

[thin oasis]

As I said, they really don't need more bad publicity 😛

[unkempt flax]

Is the pricing for the Red Eye exclusive bundle with currency supposed to be $10 higher than it was stated at?

[thin oasis]

Did you literally look at the conversation happening directly above your message and decide to ignore it?

[unkempt flax]

Sorry, I can't read

[fervent cobalt]

What price should the pack be?

[vapid crypt]

$20 USD

[unkempt flax]

That conversation was 30 minutes ago, so excuse me for not assessing the chat expecting an answer for literally 30 lines prior.

[desert crystal]

Where the toddle to turn retaliation off

[thin oasis]

It was literally right above your message.

[teal steeple]

it isnt, they are fixing it rn

from what i read on twitter at least

[noble owl]

I got Lexi from event, Turmoil I had before that. I see no reason to have more than 1

[unkempt flax]

Thank you for a direct answer without being impolite

[teal steeple]

no problem

[thin oasis]

Different characters, different builds with different lexingtons without having to keep changing the talent

Many reasons tbh.

[desert crystal]

Did they hide the setting to turn retaliation off

[noble owl]

Well, that's a fancy way to play Division 2. I am happy with 1 Lexi and don't really know what to do with it since I have other preferences in named items.

Bit alright, point taken

[tender wave]

You can't turn it off afaik. You can simply ignore it, but the area CPs will go hostile again, so you'll have to recapture them afterwards

[spare cove]

I'm too lazy to make use of 2nd, 3rd, and 4th characters since I spend most of my time on my main

[hybrid ore]

Oh I figured out what the issue was before with the Kill Squad getting lost.
turns out, they always spawn during/after the 2nd CP is taken, so if a zone only has 2 CP's, you get less time to kill them.

do a zone with 3 and there's no issue at all.

[desert crystal]

So they dont stay friendly now onec you fill the meter

[tender wave]

Yeah, you've got a few hours timer but if you don't do the retaliation then they will go hostile in that area, nothing else you can do about it

[desert crystal]

oh so its no longer friendly until you decide to chage it back

[thin oasis]

They never "stayed" friendly anyway. They have always been retaken.

It's just more aggressive this season

[fluid meadow]

Imagine finishing the last mission to get off for today
And then a retaliation starts

[desert crystal]

as in happens faster

[hybrid ore]

You can remove the "for this season", part.
Retal' is permanent.

[thin oasis]

Well yeah, I should probably say it's now just more aggressive

[vale rune]

How can i help , join retaliation with other People, without starting my own?

[hybrid ore]

It's a win-win, people who want to fight more CP's get that, and people who just want to wander around, can continue to ignore CP's entirely.

[thin oasis]

Before enemies would attack CPs at random, if they weren't defended by yourself or allies they would be taken. This happened and still will happen whether you're active at it or not.

NOw, there is an additional more aggreesive form of retaliation.

[tiny oar]

why are people farming the manager manhunt on repeat right now ?

[fervent cobalt]

I love a bit of late night open world MM tbh. Is always oddly relaxing.

[fervent cobalt]

Apparently the tempest has been dropping but i think it is unconfirmed.

[vale rune]

I mean is it possible to jump in random retaliation, when i click matchmake, open world?

[blazing citrus]

so... whats the general consensus of the new season so far?

[fervent cobalt]

If you MM open world and find someone trying to do it then yes. Will depend on the host you find

[vale rune]

Other ways, I understood how i should do it to get People, but if i want to join others, help?

[fervent cobalt]

Call for backup or MM and don't join anyone and eventually people will join you then go about doing the retaliation

[thin oasis]

SMGS are insane

[vale rune]

Ok 🙂

[desert crystal]

Is the retaliation version more like legendary

[blazing citrus]

backfire meta?

[thin oasis]

SMG 9 is nuts. Give me a second

[safe jungle]

waht are answers Scout 1

[blazing citrus]

.

[safe jungle]

TY

[blazing citrus]

credit to lolol934

i just remember seeing it earlier

[tiny oar]

time to farm then

[wise basalt]

which mission has snipers near the beginning?

[half mason]

What's the fastest way to grind lvl 31-40?

[tender wave]

Air and space museum on story difficulty

[echo arrow]

Hey gents. Getting back into the game after YEARS away. Just got all the content now, was hoping to find someone to play with long term that can help me er-learn and see what this has to offer.

Headset ready to go, make some friends and get back into it. I would be wanting to start over, but isnt that half the fun?

[small spear]

recruiter manhunt also

[feral mural]

I'm already seeing people with the Tempest

[frank cloak]

yep lots have it, groups for the master mission is almost instant now

[feral mural]

lmao

[full zinc]

-# sorry in advance for super late spam

Grand Washington Hotel is invaded this week.
Perfect week to start the Nemesis project, or get that blueprint you been waiting for.

After you get the Tidal Basin piece , change mode for invaded stronghold back to invaded. Complete again for another nemesis piece (stronghold dependent). With any 2 pieces in hand set GWH back to invaded and the blueprint will drop. Nemesis can be farmed from Marksman Rifle Target Loot after that, regardless of project completion.

[torn beacon]

How do you start retaliation mode? Do you have to do the faction open world and mission activities first? It looks like the agitation circle is filling out by doing control points for example.

[thin oasis]

Easy:

Piss off enemies until they're annoyed enough at you to retaliate.

Then go to the retaliation screen, accessible from the map, and initiate it.

[torn beacon]

Thank you lol. So you have to do this each time to do that faction's retalation mode after you captured everything?

[desert crystal]

do missions fill the bar though

[thin oasis]

Any activity fills the bar.

[torn beacon]

This isn't a permanent bar right?

[desert crystal]

includeing missions in the area

[torn beacon]

and if you reset the open world or control points?

[thin oasis]

Once the retaliation is done, the bar goes to 0 again.

This is a permanent game mode.

[thin oasis]

They're faction specific, not region specific

[desert crystal]

so if the factions the same in the mission it would still count

[tepid horizon]

Hi, can someone tell me which category on Discord to report bugs in the game to, please?

[compact frost]

so what comes after new york and broklyn

[desert crystal]

open world

[desert crystal]

whitch have you finished

[compact frost]

im nearly done with all of them

[desert crystal]

you just do what you want after finishing broklyn

[compact frost]

ok then

so after gen anderson theres nothing else?

[desert crystal]

is that the broklyn boss

[compact frost]

yea?

[desert crystal]

only hunter masked but there optional anyway

[distant pelican]

hey guys i got the qestion. is new tempest pistol drop on countdown? i need to know

[feral mural]

No. Climax reward

[desert crystal]

was last seasons climax potomac

[small spear]

ye

[strong wigeon]

rip

[distant pelican]

and in must do this last mission on the master dificulty to have chance on this exotic pistol?

[hybrid ore]

@signal sigil You're looking for #lfg-xbox, but also don't try and use the "everyone" tag, it doesn't work.

[distant pelican]

okay i will try do this mission a few times

[signal sigil]

ok

[wraith girder]

no, master guarantees it. but you can only launch master after doing any other difficulty. also mission is not gonna be available for months

[desert crystal]

is this the second to last season this year now

[grim shale]

Meep. Need to find me a good way to grind for mats. Any suggestions?

[desert crystal]

any one no if the payday event aparal will be an store item at any point

[grim shale]

Maybe not. That's just my opinion.

[shrewd cosmos]

Is there a tldr on broken shd watches somewhere?

[desert crystal]

@shrewd cosmos do you have both platforms or just one

[wise basalt]

for the daily retaliation description says true sons, but requires an outcast bounty? so which modifier should i put on?

[shrewd cosmos]

Both

[swift temple]

Anyone having some weird aiming bug? When I aim, it sometimes just "twitches" to the left some. Very annoying. On PS5

[desert crystal]

as in moveing on its own

[swift temple]

Yeah, it just like "snaps" to the left

[desert crystal]

as if your pressing left

[swift temple]

Yeah, the "ADS"

Nothing if I hipfire

And dont think it has anything to do with my controller. Nothing weird in other games

[desert crystal]

have you tried chageing your dead zone to 0

[swift temple]

Will mess around with it. But never had it like this before and have not changed any settings.

[twilit rivet]

what is busy little bees bbest secondary attribute

[small spear]

it doesn't really matter

[twilit rivet]

i agree but it wnat it to be as good as possible

[hybrid ore]

I always throw Swap Speed on a secondary that's not there to deal damage.
otherwise the answer is the same for about 90% of gear in div2: dtooc.

[twilit rivet]

is that out of cover?

[dull cypress]

yes

[twilit rivet]

thank you

swap speed makes sense especially for this

[hybrid ore]

I also recommend swap-speed on the TDI Kard, lets you get back to your damage faster on a red DPS setup.

(e.g. hold the Kard out > throw your rez hive > go collect the hive if you just use 1 charge > put the Kard away)

[frozen relic]

I don’t think it has a minor attribute

Not that I remember

[small spear]

yeah it doesn't, it's the +1 skill tier

unless the gun mods have swap speed but i don't think so

[hybrid ore]

I distinctly recalll.....wait yeah I'm thinking of WH rolls with it.

since those give swap speed.

same principle.

[modern temple]

I have a question so which twitch do we watch to get the twitch drop rewards for the new season? Ubisoft or the division 2 one?

[hybrid ore]

Any of these should work: https://www.twitch.tv/directory/category/tom-clancys-the-division-2?filter=drops

If you ever want to double-check, the drops tab in "all campaigns", has a "more" option, or it does for most things.

[valid sable]

im not feeling so well today guys... I think I have to go home early today

[modern temple]

Okay thank you @hybrid ore do you know how long I gotta watch the stream

[small spear]

you calling in sick so you can play huh

[jagged prism]

i bet Averageplayer approves but you gotta carry them through retaliations (> <)

[unreal depot]

the new modifier is a bit crazy

[spare cove]

And what about it?

[trim lily]

Yoooo how we liking the new season? 👀

And also Rivens I bet you're getting asked this a lot but when do I get my lexington?

[unreal depot]

never they gave it to me instead

[spare cove]

On Friday, as long as you got to level 150 from the Stretch Event.

[cyan musk]

*130 150 was turmoil

[sharp oak]

where does the lexginton reward go to ?

[trim lily]

I was 205 but I don't have it, checked stash don't have it 💔

[sharp oak]

i reached 130 just for lexington and i dont have it too

[spare cove]

Wart, what day is it right now?

[trim lily]

Today is tuesday

[spare cove]

September 12th

[trim lily]

Oh I get it on the 12th bet thanks!

[spare cove]

You're welcome

[noble isle]

Oh. Figured people were talking about that. I was like... 👀 where's the free loot they promised. Ended at 170. I had no life for like a week. 🥹

[unreal depot]

do retaliations have difficulty levels

[spare cove]

It's scaled based on your global difficulty

[jagged prism]

so is journey 2 all active and passive modifiers?

well, that was rude of delta03.....

[languid bay]

Alright how long is it gonna take for me to fet sanitizatoon

Got the OD Iron Lung build ready

[hollow hill]

At least it wasn't Mike

[jagged prism]

however long you procrastinate journey 2 i think?

[hollow hill]

Or for the bugs to be fixed

[dry gate]

@jagged prism how long was the maintenance? were you right about extension?

[hollow hill]

If y'all don't know, you can get Tempest pistol rn

[jagged prism]

nah, came up much much earlier

[dry gate]

reaaally? what like 5 hours or even less?

[hollow hill]

About 2h early. I was here with em when it went up

[dry gate]

oh sheeeett.. good job Massive 🙂

[languid bay]

I saw lmao

[jagged prism]

nods .drib came on chat "servers up" i thought he was trolling honestly XD

[hollow hill]

I'll give a hint: Cat Backpack and a Gas Mask

Wonder how many people are gonna go after that mask and get a pistol instead

[dry gate]

I'm hopping on the game now.. time to grind

[undone nebula]

How

[upbeat umbra]

Is opening faction chests in open world a good one time way to get a specific resource?

[jagged prism]

yeah, i saw someone mentioning it and how they got it

[undone nebula]

I noticed that can get tempest early as glitch

[proud garnet]

OD melts stuff so fast wow

[hollow hill]

The hint is posted above

Good luck, agents 🤠🫡

[undone nebula]

Is doing a master mission?

[hollow hill]

Yes. On a character that hasn't done it

[undone nebula]

I haven’t done master mission on my first character

[hollow hill]

You should get the pistol instead of the mask then

[vale rune]

If they could add at the retaliation tab matchmake retaliation players that would be Nice, backup and matchmake open world dont work cause they dont exspect retaliation. And if its gåing to stay, they should add matchmake retaliation on retaliation tab. But i dont ned to play retaliation cause i dont want to play solo, no fun! I thought this game is meant for coop and im suprised they did not add this posibiltiy, wrong trailer regarding retaliation is meant as coop. Hope they change and add this feature. Night.

[hollow hill]

Invite your friends 🤷‍♀️ it is co-op

Expecting things to be perfect is just wishful thinking for a live service game especially with a BRAND NEW update

Patience. They'll figure something out

[languid bay]

Ohhhh ok i think i get ts now

You attack specific faction missions and CPs and then you start a retaliation in the named zone you hit right?

[vale rune]

Sorry! Ok. Is there a place where i can ask random players to be friends, id like to send requests?

[hollow hill]

#lfg-pc

[languid bay]

RogueGold clickbait….. save me

[crimson sand]

Just search open world exploration and you will most likely end up in a retaliation group that’s what I did

[azure lintel]

The master difficulty mission is gone?

[nimble mauve]

Hey everyone what's up? How's the new season stuff?

[ebon ermine]

⚠️ PSA TO ANYONE WHO PURCHASES VANITY ITEM CREDS >>> The "Red Eye Pack" is erroneously listed at the same price as "The Pact Season Bundle", whereas it should be the same price as the 2250 (2000 + 250) creds pack. I have made them aware and they will be adjusting the price shortly. It should result in an approximately 33% price drop.

[fathom maple]

No glitch, is just a bug

[shrewd cosmos]

Are kill squads spawns based on time or location in the retaliation?

[jagged prism]

yes new season today. so we're working towards a new master difficulty mission. the manager should appear but you gotta run normal to heroic once to unlock the master difficulty

[languid bay]

Wait what

[jagged prism]

yes, new character apparently first clear

[fathom maple]

Create new character-run any difficulty-run master-repeat

[jagged prism]

yay, they definitely fixed level 40 boost

[fathom maple]

There is no glitch, so u cant get a ban

[jagged prism]

pretty much their oops. they take it away there'll be a huge outcry about it too

[dry gate]

the cat is out of the bag so to speak at this point..

[jagged prism]

so the create character is a must? can't be one already created but didn't run master?

[crimson sand]

I got it running my main character that I had already gotten the tinker on .. so it’s rng

[hollow hill]

Odd for sure

[fathom maple]

Not a must but is better

New character grants a 100% drop rate of Tempest/tinkerer on ur first máster run

[quaint prairie]

has it been fixed yet ?

[dark flicker]

Will they take the tempest away from ppl or disable it ? I want to use it but will wait if theres a high chance they take it away

[coarse ibex]

What is it with the enemies now? They seem to hit a lot harder. And the time we get for this new game mode is ridiculous...

[dark flicker]

The ones with the symbol above their head do more dmg once it fills up iirc

[pallid root]

is the tempest glitch patched?

[fathom maple]

Prob they will do a rollback

[echo bone]

Quick question. When we do retaliation do we still get the rewards for doing each control point? Recon data etc

[fathom maple]

Not a glitch, and no, not patched for now

[pallid root]

so i should make a new char and play it on master?

[fathom maple]

First u need run a lower difficulty of the mission

[pallid root]

ok will run it now

[dark flicker]

Gotcha, am still relatively new and wasn't sure how they usually handle these situations (if its ever happened before)

[fathom maple]

I think It never happened before, but normally all companies do rollbacks when this happens

[round oar]

Wish they'd include some sort of visual guide to all the new visual elements on my screen

[dark flicker]

Dang. Time to wait what, 12 weeks? 😭

[hollow hill]

Will never happen

[fathom maple]

U can inspect the things of the modifiers

[hollow hill]

They don't even ban cheaters on this game and people have their accounts boosted 10k-100k levels daily

[dry gate]

hey don't see a channel for this.. are drops only for Ubi partners or I can enable them on my twitch account for stream? I don't really stream stream but I do ocassionally for fun but it would be nice to have drops enabled when I do

[hollow hill]

Ubi partners only

[dry gate]

ah.. shucks

[hollow hill]

If you have enough people that like you and you send Massive a letter, they might bring you in 👌

KVD smashing his keyboard at the amount of "so how was Sweden" comments in the Livestream:

[spare cove]

Maybe I could do my spin on talking about the Division's lore and story, and I eventually become a content creator as well.

[tiny valve]

Get destroyed Everytime I play pvp what do I do?

[hollow hill]

Don't play pvp

[tiny valve]

Not an option 👎

[hollow hill]

Is fighting exploiters and lag switchers worth it? Tinkerer bug isn't truly fixed

However, depends on your build

[tiny valve]

Wtf is tinkerer bug 🤨

[fathom maple]

Listen to the demon, enter to the bighorn regen world

[dark flicker]

Dark magic to stack infinite talents, very bad stuff

[hollow hill]

Allows people to stack talents on guns that shouldn't allow for it. Determined, streamlined, optimist, strained, measured, list goes on

[tiny valve]

How do I even get bighorn 🙏🙏

[hollow hill]

Floor 90 Summit Legendary

[tiny valve]

I ain't got that much time 😭

[dark flicker]

Also pray your aim on controller is crisp xD bighorn need to hit headshots

[hollow hill]

4 piece strikers, memento backpack, ceska with obliterate. 5 blues, 2 reds, St Elmo's. Ez pz

Just farm the bosses over and over

[hollow hill]

Hitting heads with a controller is pretty easy tbh

[dark flicker]

Yeah for sure

[spare cove]

Why do people find an appeal for PvP in a shooter game that's mainly about getting loot and becoming stronger, is beyond me.

[dark flicker]

Ive seen things tho, when spectating that made my eye bleed

[hollow hill]

Because at least Division offers more intriguing PvP than what COD can offer. It's about both gear and partial skill

[dark flicker]

The tension of trying to get your loot out while running the risk of getting killed by a rogue is super fun to some

I was highly addicted in d1

[hollow hill]

COD is usually boiled down to whoever has the most Adderall in their system

[dark flicker]

23 yr old me feels attacked

[spare cove]

Okay, but having a balanced and competitive PvP in a game like The Division? That's absurd to the point of being laughable.

[hollow hill]

22 year old me preferring division over cod

[woeful wing]

Division is more unique than cod anyway

[hollow hill]

Well, it became absurd when the pvp dev team and the rest left this game to die. And now we are in the mess we are in because Ubisoft left this game to die but the community said "lol no"

Back then, things were being actively balanced. That was 5 years ago tho

Each new PvE catered hand-held update just broke pvp more and more

[dark flicker]

I got burnt out from dying to cheaters. And then my pc fried lmao

[spare cove]

I still think PvP is fundamentally incompatible with games like the Division.

But agree to disagree, I guess.

[hollow hill]

Fails to realize the selling point of Div 1 was quite literally Dark Zone

[fathom maple]

PVE and PvP cant work in the same game

[hollow hill]

Which is... What again? Pvp 😂

[spare cove]

I didn't care much for the Dark Zone.

And you shouldn't force me to care about it

[hollow hill]

Division is a game for everyone and just saying "pvp shouldn't exist" is the same as saying "it's only for select people". Div 1 had it, why wouldn't and shouldn't 2 have it?

[woeful wing]

It is entirely optional

[spare cove]

Because PvP is fundamentally incompatible?

[hollow hill]

That just cuts your playerbase by 10%. Which in today's standards, with how unpopular this game is compared to others, we need that 10%

[spare cove]

Agree to disagree

[hollow hill]

Only because we don't have a pvp dev team and haven't for years. Yes, I know division is a mostly PvE game, but why should only the PvEers get content? Why shouldn't the pvpers get content too?

[dark flicker]

I hope you guys who don't like pvp don't flood massive with your "fixes" when survival drops

[hollow hill]

This. This 100000000%

[spare cove]

Relax, kid. I'm not that petty

[hollow hill]

Triggerrrrreddddddd

[azure lintel]

There’s so many trash players on this game it’s ridiculous. Especially high levels 10k, 20k, 30k. I’ve cleared more legendary missions with randoms under level 1k.

[full zinc]

Division pvp is like cod where you have a safety net.
Is hardcore pvp popular

[spare cove]

I just have an unhealthy animosity against PvP

[spare cove]

Not helping, dude.

[dark flicker]

From reading online the average div player is a single dad with 2 kids and 2 jobs and can play 23 mins a day

[hollow hill]

At this rate that's basically how it's being treated. I know this game doesn't have a lot of devs but if they got some more, dedicated them to pvp, this game can have content for all

[full zinc]

Something like pvp in dayz has way more tension

[woeful wing]

I've noticed lower levels are more cooperative and accommodating with unique builds, higher levels are petty if you don't use exactly what they want you to use

[spare cove]

I still don't understand the appeal

[hollow hill]

Have you even bothered to try it?

[dark flicker]

And you telling me to relax and calling me a kid 😭 crazy work brother

[spare cove]

Tried it a few times. Not for me.

[full zinc]

D1 dz was lit. D2 not so much in my mind

D1 everyone wasn't complete trash to eachother either tho

[woeful wing]

I've never really enjoyed the DZ mostly cause i joined too late to be able to fend for myself so i jut avoid it cause i get merked alot

[dark flicker]

Yeah before players named IIIIllllIII started teleporting around on me 🙁

[hollow hill]

Okay then, not for you. But it is for some. But outright saying "this game don't need it" is a totally closed mind and we wonder why the game is in the state it's in PvE remains to be catered to and the PvPers get nothing but a cluster truck of a mess

[vivid osprey]

I have the game on both pc and PlayStation, where am i gonna get the twitch drops on?

[spare cove]

I just hope Division 3's DZ is as big as Div 1 or bigger, so people can finally shut the f up about it.

[dark flicker]

I mean, it would help a ton.

Players who are weaker can actually have a chance to run away

[azure lintel]

It’s like the really high levels have no common sense and just run up to enemies with an all red build, die, and leave.

[dark flicker]

Or travel to the other side to play away from the rogue killing them

[hollow hill]

Why so negative

[spare cove]

Like I said before, I have an unhealthy animosity against PvP in video games.

[hollow hill]

I can tell

[woeful wing]

I've got some builds i really like that ppl just flatout won't let me play with because it isn't the optimal build, like omg not everyone has every exotic and perfect armour builds, let me play the damn game smh

[full zinc]

-# Unpopular opinion incoming

Bring back survival as the only pvp in d3

[dark flicker]

If conflict is a mode this could work fine ig... but dz would need to be repurposed

[hollow hill]

Okay this is where I become sir hawkster and be negative as hell.... Light the pitch forks and stab him with torches!

(I said it backwards on purpose)

[dark flicker]

Nah fr?

[full zinc]

Everything being rng based is closest you get to equality

[dark flicker]

Nah cus then ppl would say those with more free time have it easier

[hollow hill]

Speak backwards, I did Yoda voice

[dark flicker]

It never ends lmao

[hollow hill]

Expertise in division 2 pvp in a nutshell:

The longer you played, the more damage you do 👌 perfect system, right? Right?......

[dark flicker]

U think disabling it in dz would help a lot or barely at all?

[full zinc]

Its not about time.
Everyone start fresh each time. Permanent deaths. Whole 9.

[hollow hill]

Disable it EXCEPT for invaded

[dark flicker]

Personally, i got no problem with it. But i can see how others would 100%

[hollow hill]

I have a huge problem with it. Fresh level 1000 walks into the 1000+ bracket, and now they get to fight full armor builds with 30 expertise that don't die

If they confined it to Invaded DZ, where turrets are disabled anyways, it seems fair

[dark flicker]

Ive played for about a month now and im at exp 15. I know the other 15 will take a lot longer but the chance that 15% missing dmg gets me killed is VERY low

[hollow hill]

I'd also change DZ to be squad based. Solos only play with solos. Duos with Duos. And so on. You have the option to queue as a solo against teams if you wish

[full zinc]

Survival pvp closest to that. There is a real drive to get extracted, and a lot of chances to get deleted. The element of not knowing can really elevate pvp

[dark flicker]

Amazing change imo

[hollow hill]

I'd also implement a check system where people who are friends can't queue into the same instance in DZ as a solo

[dark flicker]

I love when groups get matched vs groups in all games

[hollow hill]

Prevents teaming

[dark flicker]

And solos v solos ect

[hollow hill]

Prevents griefing

Which griefing isn't pvp. What is pvp is when you know it's gonna happen. At least with Solos V Solos, if you have somebody flag on you and you die, it's usually bc you have bad awareness

[dark flicker]

Im so excited for survival. Esp with them saying they wouldnt make it unless confident they could make it better

[hollow hill]

Prevents going on as a solo and a whole group of 4 shows up and murders you

[hollow hill]

I'm hyped but reserved. With how pvp sits rn with cheaters, and no consequences, it'll be no different than going into DZ or conflict

[full zinc]

Disable social menu in dz as well. Shouldn't have any idea of who is around unless you see them

[hollow hill]

This!!!

[full zinc]

Is my dayz showing

[dark flicker]

The only 2 things this game is missing for me is better dz and a wanting a more tense, unsettling atmosphere

Survival vibes were awesome

[hollow hill]

I'd also make the NY and Brooklyn maps have parts for DZ as well.

We have 2 whole ass maps we don't even use. WHY. Make em into conflict maps too!

[dark flicker]

Yeah

Which city / location would you guys want for div 3 if you were able to choose

[hollow hill]

I'd probably split WONY into 2 groups, with a wall dividing both parts. You can choose to scale the wall and one side has expertise and the other doesn't. They change on a 24h basis. Brooklyn, well, same thing

I'd also bring hunters back into the DZ

[dark flicker]

They had that? Lol

[hollow hill]

In survival yes

[full zinc]

Imagine if dz were more like invaded/manhunt missions instead of walled off sections of map, have altered named zones. Have them flux from time to time depending on the current narrative

[dark flicker]

Oh ye

[hollow hill]

I'd make that change too

But the option to toggle of course turning them into mission maps and then the obvious DZ maps

[full zinc]

Shouldn't be optional

[hollow hill]

Alot of this stuff I've mentioned doesn't take that much work, especially since it took em 2 years just to make Brooklyn

[full zinc]

Like its different, figure out how to deal

[hollow hill]

They already have the assets. Just need to rework the files and code

[full zinc]

Would freshen up a lot. Imagine cycling into a new zone for a season but half the areas change and the pathing is different

Makes your memories of a place an enemy as well 😎

[dark flicker]

Sometimes that's literally the hardest part

After so many years it gets turned into spaghetti

[hollow hill]

Considering we only have a handful of devs on the team rn, yeah, I'm basically asking for a miracle

[dark flicker]

They are hiring more right or was that only for div 3

I remember they had applications up

[hollow hill]

They aren't hiring rn

Otherwise I'd fly to Sweden myself and turn in my opinions

[dark flicker]

Either filled or it was for div 3

[dense saffron]

Wonder how the dark zone for division 3 would be

[dark flicker]

Ill let you know in 2029

[toxic lily]

Prob like the same thing but the whole city one decay but it'll be the same thing all over again

[hollow hill]

I'm hoping when they drop Survival, we can wear our clothes in survival... I bought the Snow Ghillie during the apparel event just for the return of survival. I knew it would come back 🙏

[dark flicker]

Id be super excited if it was in Chicago or Seattle

Chicago return to snow which they know we love. Seattle having anywhere from mist - heavy downpours + all the overgrowth would be cool

[hollow hill]

Division 3 taking place in New Mexico or so would be super interesting

[dense saffron]

Was thinking San Francisco

[dark flicker]

I dislike the dc sandstorms lmao

[hollow hill]

When it's DZ, I love it 🔥

[dark flicker]

This would be so cool if division setting wasnt stuck in what, 2016?

[hollow hill]

Brings back that survival feel but sandstorm

[dark flicker]

A lot of cool tech stuff is being developed there which wasnt back then

[dense saffron]

The game still in 2016? Thought it would be later

[dark flicker]

I think its only 8-9 months after div 1

[dense saffron]

Huh

[hollow hill]

I think they mean the lore

[dark flicker]

In the story, we are only 8~ months ahead of what happened in div 1

So yeah we still in 2016-17 in game

[hollow hill]

Makes sense considering the code back then is still used for what we are on now

[dark flicker]

😭

[hollow hill]

Just slightly different

[round oar]

So the bar under my minimap just shows how much territory I do and don't have?

[azure lintel]

Akimbo pistols when

[shrewd cosmos]

What do you guys do to search for kill squads?

Just roam around? Are they in specific spots, are they random?

[dark flicker]

Massive hire this man right now

[dark flicker]

#td2-general-chat message

Maybe this helps?

[tiny oar]

well idk why people do the manager

the pistol def doesnt drop at all

[eager talon]

you need to create a new character then run master ( or so they say )

[tiny oar]

i did, no drop

yeah as usual

[undone timber]

(it does)

[eager talon]

I think its not a 100% drop, it might follow the 10% chance on master after getting the tinkerer.

[fathom maple]

New character is a 100% drop

[dark flicker]

Guy says otherwise

[fathom maple]

Every new character is a guarantee máster exotic drop since máster difficulty dropped

[eager talon]

If you say so.

[undone timber]

I wonder if they'll yoink it from everyone's inventory

[dark flicker]

He talking about how ppl are getting the tempest + tinkerer from it. The tempest shouldn't drop rn

[fathom maple]

Bro literally every1 is doing that bc is a guarantee drop XD, ask anyone Who is farming

[fathom maple]

Ik, but thats why ppl is making new characters

[fiery flicker]

Everyone else experiencing a serious amount of bugs right now?

[eager talon]

I guess @tiny oar is lying then. Good to know.

[dark flicker]

Yeah well unless it got hot fixed without needing any dl the guy either did it wrong or lied (doubtful)

[cobalt storm]

Can someone go to something they aren’t proficient in, use the donate all feature on printer filament? I’m doing it and it’s not using ANY of my printer filament

[rare vapor]

i thought they fixed the talent stack bug. Jesus, not going in DZ still.

[cobalt storm]

I can make everything proficient without costing a single material

[tiny oar]

oh yeah i love to farm a new char to do master manhunt to then tell everyone i dont get a drop just cause i like lying

[fathom maple]

Bro is going bankrupt im the Next log in

[tiny oar]

very not unhinged comment

[cobalt storm]

I don’t have much filament in the first place, plus I stopped. Don’t wanna mess anything up

[tiny oar]

my entire squad did that and nobody got the drop

[cobalt storm]

I only did it twice before I saw it wasn’t taking any of my mats

[dark flicker]

Maybe it got hot fixed without needing a download bro. Idk how games work so maybe ? Lol

[tiny oar]

so its def not garanteed

[fathom maple]

Bc is either tinkerer or tempest

But the exotic drop is guaranted, thats why the new character farm

[tiny oar]

yeah i got tinkerer, thats it, 2 times

[dark flicker]

Theres a picture of someone getting both 😵‍💫

[tiny oar]

so tempest is not a garanteed drop and accusing people of lying is really unhinged

[fathom maple]

Tell that guy to buy a lottery ticket rn

[dark flicker]

Xd

[tiny oar]

this community man

[dark flicker]

I said doubtful to you lying, to be clear

[fathom maple]

Also with this bug i can see the Next hell farm, tempest with dttoc

[tiny oar]

talking to pandemonium

[eager talon]

I mean the other guy said its 100% drop, so your fight is with his comment not mine.

[tiny oar]

you're the one saying im lying

[fathom maple]

100% exotic máster drop

[tiny oar]

so make up ur mind, why would you even say that

you could say "yeah the other guy said no so idk"

not "lol this guy lies"

[eager talon]

Miscommunication, so either the other guy is wrong or someone is lying. I apologize

[dark flicker]

Knowing me, id get done getting it and theyd take it from my inventory xD

[eager talon]

its not too deep or too serious.

[dark flicker]

Ima just wait

[tiny oar]

it is serious so

[dark flicker]

🤣

[fathom maple]

Create new character-level 40 boost-run any difficulty of manager manhunt-run master-repeat

This is the farm method, final reward is 50/50

[tiny oar]

yeah i did

twice, so im not doing that again

the entire team didnt drop it

and they were all new char

[rare vapor]

solo it lol

[fathom maple]

Solo máster is a long way

[tiny oar]

how is that even better ?

[eager talon]

everyone else I knew did it and got the drop, all the mainstream content creators that I have seen has gotten it to drop.

[rare vapor]

less stress from teamates

[tiny oar]

the stress isnt the issue here

[eager talon]

How does one gain a stack of spiced up, the UI does not say or i missed it

[tiny oar]

its the times it takes

[dark flicker]

I couldnt even solo heroic 💀 too much going on for my all red striker

[rare vapor]

if you solo and if you didnt get it its on you. if your teammates didnt drop for you, you blame everything.

[eager talon]

Why not just wait for it on week12?

[tiny oar]

i didnt blame my team ????

[dark flicker]

Final fight i just couldnt beat

[rare vapor]

well i soloed master three times, not slow at all

[tiny oar]

how is that relevant to the team ?

[dark flicker]

I will, but i rlly like pistols and do want it badly. I can see why others would too

[rare vapor]

why you so fixed on team?

[eager talon]

I think it takes about 30-45mins on a heart breaker build, could be faster on all reds.

[dark flicker]

What did you use? You sound very powerful

[tiny oar]

you are fixed on saying i blamed the team, when i never said anything close to that

[rare vapor]

striker backfire

[dark flicker]

Ah, i never got around to make that 🙃

[tiny oar]

backfire got buffed

its strong af now

[dark flicker]

I will try it this season for sure

[rare vapor]

good

did it in about 20 minutes

[dark flicker]

I was 1~ week in and then summer swarm stretch started

[tiny oar]

just play what you like

[dark flicker]

I do

[tiny oar]

dont rush stuff yet

[dark flicker]

I wanted to try for 0.5% eb xD

[rare vapor]

eb sucks though

[tiny oar]

its way lower that 0.5%

[dark flicker]

Or wait, lower

Damn slow chat enable 🙁

[rare vapor]

you could just do DH raid in like an hour and half and 7 other ppl may drop for you. thats wayyyyy higher than 0.5%

[tiny oar]

not 100% tho but yea

[dark flicker]

Yes brother if that was the case i would. I play on very specific time and am first timer so if i find a group cool, but havent yet

[fathom maple]

In dz is a 0,024% drop

[dark flicker]

I join 2 clans that said they do raids and both said their players are off playing other games now lol

[tiny oar]

search for gcrock discord server, they raid all the time

[fathom maple]

SS was 0,05%

[tiny oar]

if i wasnt lazy i'd raid too to get eb and regulus

[dark flicker]

Ok, one of their players helped me get the space admin manhunt exotic (forget the name lol)

[fathom maple]

Glasses aka Theo

[dark flicker]

I also needed everything in those caches so thats another reason i chose to grind those out xd

[rare vapor]

i mean you wont main EB once you have it, its gonna be on the wall. so you dont have to rush or anything

[dark flicker]

It looks nice and is honestly the reason i got the game lol. I randomly saw a video and said "ima try and get that"

And surely its not that bad right 🙁 i can use it solo and be fine

[tiny oar]

its not that bad

[ancient verge]

So idk if anyone else knew I didn’t check the patch notes you still loose control points even if your no longer logged into the game pretty cool but surprising tbh

[rare vapor]

you can use a blue pisto solo and be fine. EB aint bad at all, just you have Lexington already

[tiny oar]

its a tanking talent, not dps tho

[rare vapor]

i'd argue against that lol

[dark flicker]

🤣

Well id have to get it to find out myself right? Lol

[tiny oar]

gcrock is the way then

[dark flicker]

Thx bro

[tiny oar]

np, hope you get it, not like me

i know the raid by heart now, still havent got eb lol

luck has never been on my side

[dark flicker]

Wow they had a spot for FTC 30~ mins ago. Good call lol!

[woeful wing]

it's weird going back to Div 2 after playing Div 1 for the last few weeks

[dark flicker]

Div 2 easier you think? I havent made my way back to 1 yet but starting on 2 it feels a lot easier

[tiny oar]

div 1 is easier to me

[dark flicker]

I remember dying a lot more on 1

[tiny oar]

but we got classified gear tho now

[woeful wing]

Div 2 gunplay is certainly easier, Div 1 i've noticed i have to be more careful with my accuracy

[woeful wing]

No armour in Div 1

[dark flicker]

Yeah

[undone timber]

As soon as you get a set of classified striker the entirety of div1 becomes a joke

[ancient verge]

It’s recoil control was a lot more unforgiving to in 1

[woeful wing]

that catches me out when i die forgetting there's no armour in the 1st game

[dark flicker]

The rushers with shotguns always smoked me 🤣

[tiny oar]

yeah basically

[tiny oar]

that was pré 1.4

[woeful wing]

i'm only like lvl 18 currently so no decent gear yet

[tiny oar]

now it's way more balanced than that

[ancient verge]

Cleaners with the shields always get me

[dark flicker]

Yeah i played early and stopped like 400~ hours in

[dark flicker]

In this game its the guys with the tall shields and their ridiculously accurate pistol smg or whatever

[woeful wing]

Div 1 is definitley harder, looks nicer too

i miss the snow in Div 2

[fathom maple]

Shotguns guys r worse than that

[dark flicker]

In div 2?

[fathom maple]

Shotguns with sniper mods

[ancient verge]

Tell me about it they can barely hold it up yet are hitting me with dead shot accuracy lol

[fathom maple]

In both, 1 and 2

[dark flicker]

How do you kill the tall shields guys easier? Teach me more

I been learning tn thats why i havent gotten off to play yet lol

[ancient verge]

I’m div 1 shoguns where deadly but the cleaners with the shields always get and axe where more worse that thing was bulletproof back then

[fathom maple]

Shoot to their feets or wait for the swing

[ancient verge]

Three of them rush you it was drop a turret scream and run lol

[undone timber]

Flash them and blow their backpack

[dark flicker]

Gotcha, ill try and shoot toes cus i usually stay mid range~

[dark flicker]

I try to foam and they always walk away in time xD

[undone timber]

Oh div 2

Can get the weak point depending on faction

[dark flicker]

Yee. Mb. Shotgunner in div 1 killed me often and was saying the tall shields guys in div 2 get me a lot

[eager talon]

Has anyone figured out how to increase the spiced up stacks?

[ancient verge]

I still think about this to this day that the big rikers dudes backpack exploding and shooting is just and very tiny riker heavy in there

[fathom maple]

At mid range try to shoot the arm, normally the arm with the melée is out of the shield hitbox

[dark flicker]

Got it

[ancient verge]

At least in div1 that was the case idk about 2

[dark flicker]

Lastly, for the chunky guys. A player told me to "shoot the belt" do the mean the ammo belt or his belt waist area?

Not black tusk

[torn belfry]

You mean the brutes?

[dark flicker]

Minigun fat bois

[fathom maple]

In their belt they have a mini pack, near to the butt, if u destroy this u stunt them

[icy wave]

Question, didnt they say that we could get lexington and turmoil at the end of the event or something like that?

[dark flicker]

Gotcha, the weak point. I thought maybe there was another weak spot

[dark flicker]

12th in your mail

[fathom maple]

If u destroy the helmet they get out of prone

[icy wave]

Ah thanks

[dark flicker]

Haha dang not the guys thay lay down. The biiiiig chunky guys

But I'll remember for those guys too ty

[fathom maple]

Ooohhh that ones

U can bully them, just shoot to the minigun mag

If u do that they keep reloading and reloading

[dark flicker]

Got it

Ty so much

[fathom maple]

Also they must have their ammo in the back, i dont remember where bc all i fought is BT

[dark flicker]

Gotcha. Im gonna go play some now and try it out on any that i see

[fathom maple]

Idk if uk this but when u get a yellow hitmarker It means u hit a weakpoint

So with that u can know where to shoot

[dark flicker]

Yep I know. Its just when the guy told me to "shoot the belt" we were in front xd thought there might have been another

[fathom maple]

If u see a mini bag in the belt that is the weakpoint

[dark flicker]

Gotcha. I also learned on my own shooting warhound legs goes straight to their hp

From running so much tidal basin for 3 weeks 😅

[fathom maple]

Yep, and the red part stunt them

The most efficient strat is emp and shoot to the legs, ez warhound kill

I think no since is with credits

[thick yarrow]

i wanna mention something but i have to refrain from doing so since its something people should avoid doing till 2 months time anyway

[full zinc]

ok, refrain from doing so

[thick yarrow]

its mainly to do with the last climax mission from season 1

[rare vapor]

hush

let Tempests lie

[thick yarrow]

don't need to say anything since people are aware of it then 🙂

[dark lion]

on pc for D2, has any one else noticed a significant drop in FPS and heavy stuttering after the maintenance window last night/early morning? I was getting 70-90 yesterday and now 25-50 with lots of stuttering

[fathom maple]

Not the first one to say that so ig is something with the game

[cyan musk]

yeah I've been noticing a lot of dropped frames I usually average 40-50 but I've been getting a couple chunks of <20 frames

[thick yarrow]

if you're experiencing that just use vsync till its fixed for the time being

[cyan musk]

I thought it was just my network tbh

[lunar hare]

afaik network/wifi doesn't affect your frames (fps)

[dark lion]

would really like to know if it's just me... logged on for the first time in years and it ran great. Today it's been horrible.

i googled it and others are saying same thing but it was an "ai response"... not sure if its just pc players and/or if consoles having issue too

[cyan musk]

I'm looking over that new exotic mmr I feel like it's be better if it changed to armor class first

[dark lion]

thx. yeah im using it but it's a stuttering mess at times

[cyan musk]

like boss then elite then veteran than raf

[thick yarrow]

im just glad we have a way to get exotics without needing to farm too much

[cyan musk]

prio's are a significantly better way to farm than retal

retal rewards are lackluster at best

[hybrid ore]

Retal blueprints allow you to craft Exotics without the whole "other copy" system.
It is worth getting them.

[thick yarrow]

yeah but sometimes if i get descent as one and i have to wait 1 hour i'd rather just farm true sons retaliations

since i hate descent a lot

[cyan musk]

honestly I really like descent you just have to get the right talent pool

p much anything but the skill focused one is workable

[fathom maple]

A minute of silence for Descent pls

[cyan musk]

I play descent several times daily there's only like 1 big bug that needs to be fixed

that's cleaners being able to shoot through cover with their flamethrower

[thick yarrow]

also i think the new gear set tipping scales is bugged atm

[cyan musk]

ik I report it every patch

[cyan musk]

yeah it resets stacks on reload and isn't supposed to

[thick yarrow]

yeah someone in a countdown session i was in said that

[fathom maple]

Thats why bulletking is the king

[thick yarrow]

also you can do countdown for retaliation progress which is odd since im pretty sure that raid is separate to open world

[cyan musk]

also I really wish they changed how it worked to be each bullet fired instead of getting 5 stacks a second

[hybrid ore]

Countdown isn't actually a Raid, even though the game reuses the word.

[fathom maple]

Now i cant sleep with that question

[rare vapor]

How long do Retaliation normally take? Toke me 6 minutes, i thought its way longer than that.

[fathom maple]

Ty riven

[thick yarrow]

my first one took me 8 mins, although i did die twice

on challenging difficulty, im not doing heroic till i have at least one weapon and my expertise level close to max

[hybrid ore]

Expertise is very much not needed in div2.

[thick yarrow]

it does improve weapon damage up to 30%

[hybrid ore]

No it does not.

[cyan musk]

no it increases base damage

[hybrid ore]

Wait is that why people think it's good, a youtuber said "30%"?

[cyan musk]

which is far weaker

[thick yarrow]

thats what i was referring to

[rare vapor]

i did it on heroic all 5 directives

[cyan musk]

in actuality at max on a 6 red I think it gives like 11% damage

it gives closer to 23% on a 0 red

[fathom maple]

Expertise means more armor, f dmg bonus🗿🗣️

[cyan musk]

again base armor

[hybrid ore]

Let's give you an example.
On a full red build, a Fenris brand boost gives you 2-3%, not the 10% it says.
@fathom maple expertise armour is off base too, it sucks.

[cyan musk]

masks get 800 armor per level for 24k total

[hybrid ore]

A full set of 6 pieces of 30% on all armour, will give you the equivelant of 1 more blue core.

[fathom maple]

1% is 1%, can be the Game changer between dying to a Sniper or actually get a heart attack

[hybrid ore]

It's not 1%.

[timber hatch]

(weapon damage percent + experiance%) / (weapon damage percent)

[fathom maple]

Per stack yes

[cyan musk]

the strongest buff which is chest only gives like 30k ish armor

[timber hatch]

I dont think Ive seen anyone in here be correct lol

[fathom maple]

Whatever, expertise is shi, only useful for min maxers

For normal players no difference at all except for the fact u r going bankrupt BC is expensive asf

[wise basalt]

for 3rd journey 'gain 50 stacks of spiced up', how do u know how many stacks u got?

[timber hatch]

30% experiance is equal to two red cores

[cyan musk]

I'm pretty sure the only time expertise matters is in pvp

[fluid meadow]

say that to my 30 expertise on every piece pistol build

[hybrid ore]

We were able to do the hardest content in div2 before Expertise was added.

[cyan musk]

diminishing returns make it closer to 11% on 6 red and 20% ish on 0 red

it is extremely deceptive to use the 30% number

max striker stack famas at expertise 30 only gains like 20k ish damage per bullet

[timber hatch]

its much more than a 20k difference, that would be nothing

[cyan musk]

because it pretty much is nothing

[timber hatch]

a typical red build has 130% WD. If you add 30% WD from experiance its a 13% increase

2.6/2.3

If thats increasing your damage by 20k, then your only doing 150k per shot

[hollow hill]

Raucey of all people would know how the math in this game works. I would know I've argued with them over a year ago here and got schooled hard

[timber hatch]

expertise makes a difference, but its also not like you cant play the game without it

[cyan musk]

I thought you were the other dude and I was exaggerating to highlight that expertise does basically nothing outside of pvp

[timber hatch]

I mean it makes a difference in pve as well lol

[cyan musk]

not really one I've noticed tbh

[timber hatch]

a 13% difference is basically a very strong weapon talent

[hybrid ore]

It's important to question people if you're not sure, don't rely on that someone 100% knows the answer.

[hollow hill]

Expertise makes a pretty big difference in PvE

[wise basalt]

so noone knows about the spiced up stacks, how to know how many stacks u have?

[timber hatch]

and then theres cases like its effects on skills, which can be very strong

[cyan musk]

I haven't done expertise on any of my skills so I can't talk abt that I was talking purely abt armor and weapons

[timber hatch]

on armor its basically worthless

[cyan musk]

yeah I think in total is gives like maybe 100k armor across all pieces which will do f all

[hollow hill]

Only thing on armor it really helps with is Armor Regen %

[timber hatch]

regen?

[cyan musk]

my expertise is only like level 10 so idk exactly how much armor it gives

[cyan musk]

I think chests give a small amt of regen per tier

[hollow hill]

Yeah like Belstone/Emp giving 1% armor Regen. Scales off of armor

[long comet]

any advice for solo heroic retaliations? I have a few builds but nothing optimized yet (expertise lvl 5). I can run any mission/open world activity on heroic solo with no problem but those retaliations feels much much harder

[torn beacon]

Does retaliation give us season XP and regular XP?

[hollow hill]

Or Gila with 2% and Golan 1.5%

[timber hatch]

you get so little armor from expertise it really isnt going to make a difference to your regen either

[cyan musk]

no season yes regular but it is less than any other source in the game

comparing time at least I think it gives similar xp to a loop of descent

[dark flicker]

Id just like to have 30 exp on my fav build, weps and armor just for show xD

[torn beacon]

Thanks Emma, I did not see much XP progress and was wondering.

[dark flicker]

And eff it, its something to do

[hollow hill]

When I get bored enough I'll expertise my cooler to 30

If that's even possible

[dark flicker]

Not sure

[cyan musk]

I think it'd be neat if there was themed expertise based on the role of the gun/armor piece

[eager talon]

Ceska Backpack would like to have a word with you.

[cold narwhal]

Is there no regular season pass, just the “bundle” one?

[cyan musk]

like eb giving hsd or pesti giving a small dta bonus

[fathom maple]

There is, 1000cr

[cold narwhal]

I can’t find it on ps store anywhere

[cyan musk]

you buy it in game

[hollow hill]

At least it isn't ninjabike

[fathom maple]

PS store dont have the Battle pass, only available in game

PS store only have the Big packs

[cyan musk]

I remember when you could get the patches and all the stuff from the battlepass for free and the paid pass just gave some extra crates

[hollow hill]

Bro tried to buy the battle pass on the PS store like it's a cod black cell bundle

💀💀💀💀💀💀💀

[dark flicker]

Well isnt he just the most silly guy in town

[fathom maple]

Now is the 30 bucks pack or u get nothing literally😭😭

[dark flicker]

I saw a guy saying this game is p2w cus of the season pass. I dont think he was joking either

[cyan musk]

honestly if div 3 does seasons I hope they go back to seasons 1.0 seasons 2.0 is imo the worst change they made

[cyan musk]

the pass isn't p2w it just gives way less than it used to

[dark flicker]

Ofc they gonna do seasons xD unless they think of something new that takes the entire genre by storm like seasons did

[hollow hill]

Wonder what Fenty he puts in his body

[cyan musk]

like I think the old passes maybe had like 1-2 dyes and like a gun skin exclusive but everything else you could easily get from other places

[hollow hill]

With usually a guaranteed completion reward. Now we don't even really get that

[dark flicker]

Other than the apparel isnt it still like that O.o sorry if ignorant

[cyan musk]

I saw this season they don't even have the ts blueprints

[hollow hill]

Now we have to do tedious tasks just to get the new mask

Last season we didn't even really get one at all

[fathom maple]

That guy must be the most lazy person ever, u can get in game all the materials from the Battle pass, is even faster farm for that than complete the bp

[dark flicker]

Div players need their masks!!

[cyan musk]

I think the devs are losing steam with div 3 right around the corner tbh

[dark flicker]

Yeah, I tried explaining that and guy kept going in circles and i gave up lmao

[cyan musk]

I wouldn't be surprised if d2 reaches eol as soon as d3 drops

[hollow hill]

Or they're too busy working on a bigger project to feed this game more clothes

Like survival....

Hence the lack of bug fixes and bundle updates

[cyan musk]

honestly I was never really a fan of survival I care more abt snow than that

[dark flicker]

If div 1 is still up and has ppl im sure 2 will too

[cyan musk]

but then again 90% of my survival runs are doing nothing for half an hour then getting killed as soon as I start making real progress

[cyan musk]

I moreso meant eol as in no more updates

[dark flicker]

I loved that!!

Oh eol is end of live(service)

Yeah probably lol

[cyan musk]

yeah d1 has pretty much reached that point they have a preset schedule that reruns events but otherwise it's abandoned

[tall bronze]

will there be stretch goals this season?

[hybrid ore]

Yannick confirmed that there's at least a few more years of support for div2 left.
since bfb changed the direction of things, doing so well and all that.

[cyan musk]

if so I really hope they rework them entirely

[dark flicker]

Yes, improved too

[tall bronze]

yay

[hollow hill]

Devs said they'd be back. Improved? Hopefully

[dark flicker]

They said they plan to improve it so let's hope!!

[hollow hill]

Drop rates weren't all that great so hopefully they will be way better this time around

[cyan musk]

biggest imporvement they could make imo is removing chatter nem and other non-raid project exotics from the pool

except for maybe ridgeway cuz that's kinda a pain in the ass to grind

[dark flicker]

Ngl i liked the event. Didnt care for the drop rates but i had a lot of fun playing strongholds with ppl

[hollow hill]

I'd like to see a credit system in place as a safety net for bad RNG

[cyan musk]

the only thing of note I got was a lex right at the very end

like 3 hours before server reset

[hollow hill]

Luck

[tall bronze]

i just liked grinding to see how high i got. felt quite accomplished hitting 200 lol. drop rates werent really a concern for me since i only just hit lvlv 40 as i got to the stretch goals

[fair citrus]

i accidentally claimed a cache on my hc, and got eagle bearer, then died 2 days later

also i never got a lexington

[cyan musk]

I want eb so badly

[cyan musk]

did you reach 130?

[tall bronze]

this i got from a summer cache, guess i was lucky

[dark flicker]

I dislike how prio objs made u play solo. Like if you got capital and your buddy got manning it was annoying

[cyan musk]

if so you get it friday

[fair citrus]

yeah, and i know i'll get a lexington, its just funny that i opened an eagle bearer and no lexington

[cyan musk]

I've said it a million times but I really think an eb build could do really well in pvp with hb

[dark flicker]

Join gsrock discord and maybe we can both get one 💪

Its very populated with ppl raiding

[opaque lion]

so uh apparently people are already getting tempest lol

[cyan musk]

I've got a clan to raid with

[spice zinc]

how do i break the shields of hyenas shields before killing them ??

[fair citrus]

i have it too lol

[cyan musk]

just shoot the shield repeatedly

[hybrid ore]

@spice zinc Shoot them in the legs.

[dark flicker]

Stacking builds in pvp is hard. U die while trying to stack 🙁

Unless im mistaken

[opaque lion]

shoot the shield, avoid the eyehole as you can accidentally kill the target before the shield is destroyed

[fair citrus]

also tempest absolutely shreds

[cyan musk]

ik for a while eb was meta but that was before umbra and the striker rework

I wanna at least make it 20% as good as its glory days

[opaque lion]

regular shield hyenas can die before the shield is destroyed so just go for purple and yellows

[undone nebula]

Has anyone got tempest?

[fair citrus]

yuh

[cyan musk]

yeah a lot of people though you aren't supposed to get it

[fair citrus]

its a banger

[dark flicker]

Good to hear

[undone nebula]

I didn’t get it in first try but I got tinker

[opaque lion]

i played too much Retaliation to even know what was going on

[cyan musk]

I feel like tempest's ability would have better synergy if it made it so you didn't get dazed on shield break with it drawn

[fair citrus]

talent is pretty much 100% useless, its about raw power

[fathom maple]

What is retaliation? I only know Manager manhunt

[dark flicker]

Yeah

[dark lion]

FIXED IT! - for those on PC having FPS/stuttering issues, I found a solution and it worked for me... Navigate to game "Shader Cashe" folder and delete it... getting 90 fps now with no stuttering

[cyan musk]

new mode they added this season it's alright kinda boring though

[opaque lion]

might actually get all BPs before the next server reset at this rate

[fathom maple]

And thats why manager manhunt is my new home

[dark flicker]

My game deleted rip

[spice zinc]

does anyone know the best place to farm hyenas with shields?

[fair citrus]

just run down hyena missions

[opaque lion]

any Hyena missions, District Union arena is pretty easy too

[fair citrus]

or that

[cyan musk]

bank hq non invaded

you can farm the first boss and let yourself wipe before clearing the room for infinite shield guys

[hybrid ore]

Hyena Retaliation>
just a flood of shields last one I did.

[spice zinc]

thats smart

any one got the tempest to drop?

apperantly its gurantee if you do it on a character that hasnt done the mission

[fair citrus]

ye

[dark flicker]

Apparently not guaranteed xD

[fair citrus]

it is

[split terrace]

I got the Tempest today while playing after finally doing the Master mission on my alt character to get the Tinkerer Mask. I matchmade for a group to help me and the entire group was trying to get it. Apparently it has a 50/50 chance of dropping (instead of Tinkerer) for a character that hasn’t done on Master yet. Nice surprise.

[dark flicker]

Someone did it 2x time and got only tinkerer

[spice zinc]

whoops XD

[dark flicker]

Its ok we learning in real time

[cyan musk]

inb4 they disable level 40 boost again

[fathom maple]

Not exactly, guarantee is the máster exotic drop, but maybe u get tinkerer or maybe u get tempest

[fair citrus]

lol i tought its guaranteed the tempest if you put the tinkerer on an alt

[fathom maple]

Nope, alt doesnt affect other characters

[fair citrus]

i mean, a character who never cleared master manager

[fathom maple]

Yea thats what everyone is doing, is 50/50

[dark flicker]

And on super rare occasion, both at the same time

[fair citrus]

i didn't know the 50/50 part, is what im saying

[fathom maple]

I just hope the clímax isnt zoo/camp oak

My soul is not rdy to farm a roll with dttoc on those missions

[dark flicker]

Could u reroll it on bench? 😮

[fathom maple]

Máster exotics dont have blueprints

(provocator, birdie's, tinkerer and Tempest)

[dark flicker]

Gotcha

[trim lily]

Just got jumpscared by two buff dudes with chainsaws while trying to do the retaliation 😹

Shi was scary ngl

[dark flicker]

The armor exotic always drop with the same core and attributes right? Like tinkerer is always wep dmg, chc and chd

[fathom maple]

Yep, the only one with random attributes is tempest

[dark flicker]

Got it, thx for the 12th time tonight

[fathom maple]

Np, always here to help

[shrewd oak]

Is a red core foundrys good?

[shrewd cosmos]

So does it matter if you have tinkerer on the new character of you are trying to get tempest?

[fathom maple]

No, is a 50/50 drop

[fathom maple]

Not the best but if u feel good running that then np

[dark flicker]

Hope some exotics and gear sets get big buffs. I feel like 75% of exotics are lowkey unusable

[shrewd cosmos]

Thanks I'll try running again. I'll look at it as helping others while I'm at it 👍

[fathom maple]

Sadly is a Big fact, there r a lot of ideas in the Air, like 2 perk exótics like Destiny or make a whole season about reworks/buffs

[lyric token]

Has anyone got to Journey mission 4 yet? Im having trouble understanding Use Specialization Skills whioe using Advansed Material. Ive tried a lot of different things and its not working. Can anyone please help

[proper lodge]

Not gonna lie, a little disappointed with the new season, but hopefully this is just building up to a bigger content drop around winter time. It is set to end right around december

[winter yoke]

can barely play without getting booted and put in queue, real fun to restart retaliation 5 times now

[south topaz]

no need to rush through it as unlocking modifiers needs only 1 objective in each journey from 3-7

that being said my guess is advanced material is a modifier and u have to use skills like recon drone or banshee while using it

[wraith vapor]

When will we get some new weapons that aren't exotic? It's always the same few golden weapons over and over again, and I'm already getting tired of the same old look and gameplay.

[jagged prism]

i saw it finally. can use the mortar supremecy build to get that knocked out XD

[languid grove]

how to get the Tempest?

[kind veldt]

this season climax mission in 12 weeks

[languid grove]

no way, i have a friend who already got it

[kind veldt]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[haughty valve]

those retaliations can get intense

[haughty valve]

it sucks so I'm in no rush, a small sidearm damage boost and your shield has to break (which disorients you, and you're probably in trouble already if it breaks) to get it? big meh

[gritty garden]

but full auto is nice

[timid oak]

First two Retaliations:

1. Got 3/4 points in East Mall. Got foamed and set on fire at the same time. Instant death. Was cruising until then.
2. Delta-03 right as I was about to complete Con. Hall.

Just why.

[spice zinc]

anyone know the best place to break outcast scorch cannisters?

[timid oak]

Roosevelt Island or any other Outcast activity for that matter

[glass rapids]

does anyone know how to unlock reconstructed cache? it seems like there is a section now at the crafting bench where Inaya is, no more need for descent?

[sour void]

So I got an optimized a full set of Tipping Scales and paired it with Centurion's Scabbard, Eagle's Grasp and Quiet Roar.

Up to 518 in the mag if you swap it right. 292 rounds in the minigun is nice too.

[spice zinc]

any one know a good way to keep zealot up for 35 seconds?

[void pewter]

Spawn camp the end of capitol

[spice zinc]

what difficulty?

[void pewter]

How is that relevant

[dark lion]

Just played division 2 for first time in years. And just finished the Pier mission in the Brooklyn dlc. Is it just me or is that the most hated mission in all the game. Those damn Sam missles wtf

[opaque lion]

so enemy grenades count for the grenade kills

never used grenades as a finisher but i got kills from outcast mollies getting friendlies

[jagged prism]

yes, just keep running retaliations for the materials it requires