td2-general-chat

[elfin hazel]

just as AI isn't perfect artists also arent and it looks like a very human way to shrink an AK to fit that kind of design

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[jagged prism]

i question. how often are you looking at that specific tiny detail when you're playing?

[dry gate]

Just to highlight a slightly different perspective here. Yes, AI comes with a can of worms, for sure.. but it will also enable TONS of independent developers and small teams to create amazing games quicker to compete with the big guys. I understand the concerns, but as someone who is building their own game as well, I can tell you, the amount of time I would need to do some things manually in order to compete with a 300 person game dev studio would be impossible. But now I can. I can produce triple A quality games and compete with them. That's an overall positive.

[dire ravine]

I never thought I'd see duck n ak in the same sentence 😂😭

[elfin hazel]

that sounds super unhealthy for the industry as a whole

[fluid meadow]

that specific tiny details is on the back of your bag..
in a 3rd person shooter..

[dry gate]

what do you mean? Having tons more independent developers and small teams competing with the big guys is unhealthy? how so?

[elfin hazel]

indies are special because they arent AAA if all you're doing is chasing AAA then whats the point

they're never going to compete they're two seperate parts of the same industry

[jagged prism]

i understand that, but i rarely look at my backpack. i'm look at the cross hairs and following the moving NPCs

[remote pecan]

mostly out of inexperience and cutting corners IMO
that adds to it and makes it almost impossible to talk about the real issues, but tbh it's far too complex to discuss that in like some discord chat
and it doesn't really matter for the customer, where the issues are
for them the final product is the deciding factor and if that is bad it falls back to the engine
and it's not like only indie games were bad in a technical state, even games from big studios

[dry gate]

the reason why they "aren't" AAA quality is because solo devs and indie small teams don't have time or resources to do it.. not because they like it that way. But with AI they can.

[fluid meadow]

what if you just like vanity and like the small detailed stuff like patterns on your clothes or something?
ai is abstract and the moment you take a second deeper look it immediately falls apart

[elfin hazel]

you're harming the environment and countless cities thus peoples lives by fueling the horrific practices of AI datacenters when using it and for what to compete with something that can't really ever be competed with

you dont need a huge team to create something good you don't need AI for it either

[jagged prism]

that makes sense, still for me i'm not looking for things like that. i'm still looking at my cross hairs and the moving npcs more than anything

[elfin hazel]

people can tell when you've put heart in soul into things much like they can for telling you cut corners with AI

[fluid meadow]

all you'll make is slop because that is becoming industry goal to increase quantity over quality
indie is special where it is YOUR creation not a proompt

[dry gate]

one can be done with the other. AI is just a tool.

[elfin hazel]

a very lacking tool at that

[jagged prism]

where's rivens, anna and jarvis when we need them? (> <)

[elfin hazel]

working probably

[fathom maple]

Ai is good for gaming, not for cosmetics

[jagged prism]

true, or sleeping

[elfin hazel]

AI so good for gaming that whenever nvidia talks about AI everyone jumps on them for how awful it is

its not like AI has been largely rejected by the gaming community the same way NFTs were or anything

[fathom maple]

The best example is The Finals, thats a good use of AI

[fluid meadow]

now its all frame generation and fake fps no real performance

[elfin hazel]

frame gen is neat

[elfin hazel]

it's really not

you can just

[dry gate]

not disagreeing with that. I deal with AI from an engineering standpoint so stuff like "hallucinations" and other issues with AI are real. Thus why 80% of AI companies will collapse .. but AI as a tool in a narrow field or localized application in terms of automation or similar will be just like internet was after the internet bubble.

[elfin hazel]

pay people to va normally

[fathom maple]

Uk the voices r from real ppl right?

[elfin hazel]

yes

thats what makes it stupid

you can just pay people to va normally

you dont need AI for that

[jagged prism]

but japanese vocaloids are great! (> <)

[dry gate]

no you can't really, only big guys with money can.. I can't pay 20 actors to voice act for my game.. but now I can

[fathom maple]

I hear they want put live Broadcast on games

[fluid meadow]

this is even worse because even ai agents have trouble with local APIs they're at best giving you general answers or solutions

[elfin hazel]

I'm sure the people who made the finals can afford that

[fathom maple]

Plus the AI helped them to make better physics and not end like battlefield

[dry gate]

not really

[fluid cipher]

especially hatsune miku chan

[elfin hazel]

okay this is going on too long like the poe talk #off-topic-discussions if we wanna continue

[jagged prism]

i honestly know nothing about AI, i disable copilot every single time on my windows machine

[fluid meadow]

i forgot what prompt fireship would basically run on every new agent to test their capability
but its basically asking them how to make a function using a niche language and an old library

[keen osprey]

Good luck Hiring Microsoft David and Siri 😭

[primal skiff]

What do u mean by that?

[dry gate]

I call it now.. Chatterbox will be the meta in new season..

[primal skiff]

How so?

[fathom maple]

The AI voices can help in the future to make in live commentary, plus It helped to make better environment destruction

[remote pecan]

the buff was already insane with the 4-5 stack and it works really good solo, almost never reload
ppl sleeping on it

[dry gate]

rof + damage on an already insane rpm is going to delete everything.

[fathom maple]

Chatterbox is the underdog of smgs, is top tier but no one gives a f about it

[primal skiff]

The commentary is AI and not preset??????

[primal skiff]

Fine i will try it on my hunter build

[remote pecan]

you can even keep the buff while reloading if you time it correctly

[dry gate]

the little known fact

[fathom maple]

Is preset (for now), but is AI, the voices r from real ppl however

[primal skiff]

I would need the explanation how so?

Centurion?

[fluid meadow]

huh? top smg used in pvp no questions asked

[tender wave]

Rof and damage on every automatic weapon is going to boost them by the same amount, chatterbox doesn't benefit more than others.
It does seem like a perfect match for the 'spiced up' active modifier though.

[jagged prism]

i feel spiced up would require rugged gloves minimum

[fathom maple]

Idk Bro, bighorn the best smg for PvP🤓

[opaque lion]

the update is downloadable now i guess, 7.4gb

[fluid meadow]

bighorn, regulus, chatter, iron lung, capacitor. those are your often seen weapons there

[jagged prism]

🤔 think we'll get the foot stomping sounds and giggling with spiced up active?

[dry gate]

what I mean is that chatterbox is already insanely strong but overlooked. I use it very often and this season I was actually testing and it was outmatching Backfire but with no (bleed) side effects. With the buffs it will be even stronger. But not disagreeing, everyone gains from rof+damage. I just think chatterbox getting this will make it stand out even more IMO. I am very excited to make some builds with it.

[gilded oar]

pc update is online

[iron gust]

Steam? Ubi connect I got 10+gb to download

[jagged prism]

mine already updated. hence my comment about it being ready to play way up there somewhere ☝️

[humble viper]

already updated but still couldnt connect

[opaque lion]

yeah steam

[opaque lion]

there's still 4 hours, the game is still down but you can download the update now so you don't have to do it later

[jagged prism]

another example of people failing to read

[dry gate]

not sure if Ubisoft Connect downloads updates automatically.. I can't see whether mine updated or not

[remote pecan]

it does, but you'll see if it updated in the download section

[jagged prism]

probably just an option you gotta tick on
#td2-general-chat message

[dry gate]

I see the auto-update when recently played is on.. so probably did

[remote pecan]

you can just restart connect and if theres no update, you already have it

[jagged prism]

i did that earlier with discord and a lot of my servers went !

had 1 big one at the bottom of my list "x servers are down" uh, i can see that discord thanks....

[dry gate]

yeah it said update completed in the download manager.. their UI in Ubi Connect is meh.

[primal skiff]

Paired with umbra?

[fluid meadow]

striker intimidate adrenaline rush

[primal skiff]

Chatter getting buffd?

[primal skiff]

Striker is best choice even in pvp?

[fluid meadow]

of course

[jagged prism]

no, passive modifer for next season. how many control points you earn you get x to rof/weapon damage or something of that sort

[dry gate]

as kettle said, you will get that buff on any weapon really.. but with the nature of chatterbox I personally think it will be great this upcoming season.

[jagged prism]

@primal skiff
"Global Modifier: Divide and Conquer
This season’s Global Modifier empowers you based on your control over territory.
+X% Rate of Fire for each Named Zone that is contested, up to a maximum of 30%.
+X% Rate of Fire and +Y% Damage for each Named Zone under complete SHD control, up to a maximum of 30% ROF and +30% Weapon Damage.
Territory control bonuses apply to the two Named Zones in Battle for Brooklyn DLC, four Named Zones in the Warlord of New York expansion, and eleven Named Zones in D.C. The bonuses scale evenly based on the number of zones in each map, so you can reach the same maximum values no matter where you play."

you'll see a new graph on the left of your UI

[dry gate]

one thing I'm not sure.. maybe someone understood this better.. If you have zones in NY or Brooklyn, and then DC.. do the zones for the buffs count from all of them .. or just when you are on that map?

[jagged prism]

think when you're on those specific maps

[remote pecan]

not to be mean or anything, but the rof in that case is additive
so something that buffs rof is to profit the least amount 😄 I think that's what kettle meant

[dry gate]

after watching stream that was my impression.. since they propotionally scale the modifier based on number of zones on the map.

[jagged prism]

well, with chatterbox talent it's probably a nice little bump anyways

[remote pecan]

still think it will be good, rof is almost like a separate multiplier

[cyan narwhal]

hope they added more blueprints to control points

[jagged prism]

but now i'd be curious if i can get my GR9 firing so fast that it disappears from the game shot wise XD

[jagged prism]

exotic blue prints incoming for those and probably materials to make those exotics

[dry gate]

I really just hope they add OD to the pool..

[cyan narwhal]

na not that one i mean hunter fury rigger and belstone

[jagged prism]

IE: broken shd watches

[remote pecan]

Umbra backpack is probably due to a typo, can't say more than that, but they should fix it

[primal skiff]

So if i have the 4 zone from brooklyn i get said buff even in dz as long as i dont switch world levs etc ?

[hybrid ore]

Nope, it's world specific.

[primal skiff]

What bout when i join someone's world? Do their controls apply? Or mine?

[dry gate]

I think that's what I wondered but apparently yeah, it's tied to the map you are on

[jagged prism]

question. how would you goto dz from booklyn without switching to begin with?

[primal skiff]

Eb PLZ DEVS

[hybrid ore]

e.g. have the buffs in brooklyn, do not get them in DC.

[primal skiff]

Dc not dz my bad

[jagged prism]

run DH

[fluid meadow]

-# farm dz for it

[cyan narwhal]

u like eb for few days then. it goes in stash

[primal skiff]

I did its confusing ITS STRANGE i dont do enough damage probably

[hybrid ore]

It's a PvP gun.
it doesn't translate terribly well to PvE.

[primal skiff]

Ehh better to have it use it than marvel at it

[dry gate]

don't waste your time with DZ.. just see if you can get into a teaching DH raid or with a few good people willing to run, you will get EB in probably one or two run as someone will drop it for you

[jagged prism]

mine sits on teh wall in DC targeting range

[remote pecan]

it's great for solo content as well

[dry gate]

DZ is a nightmare and such a miniscule chance it's not worth it.

[tender wave]

I quite like it in solo pve when I'm feeling too lazy to play carefully

[fluid meadow]

honestly all in all its kill with headshot then enjoy DR for 15 seconds
get 3 kills in the span of that time

[primal skiff]

I think it can pair well with negotiator

[tender wave]

It's a good change from playing glass cannon all the time

[fluid meadow]

not too bad right?
even skill proxies count as kills

[thick yarrow]

once div 2 is back up i'll be spending £10 to get enough premium credits for the pass 🙂

[primal skiff]

Still think its a sad and missed opportunity that negotiator kills dont apply strega marks would have made the gun work

[tender wave]

Nah, you need to keep landing those headshot kills, transferred kills won't count

[remote pecan]

what a random comment 😄

[thick yarrow]

exact reason why i stay away from dark zone unless i need to go in there for a specific item

[jagged prism]

be a man and buy the 2 packs and tell us about it. only 60 of your currency XD

[cyan narwhal]

hope i can craft memento at lvl 30 character

[thick yarrow]

i'd rather not

[dry gate]

the only thing DZ is good for is getting weekly landmark project.. pretty much it

[keen osprey]

Buy the mask bundle (€20) that way youll be able to afford the pass for the next 3 seasons if you plan on spending nothing else on cosmetics.

[jagged prism]

i like the look of this front wise, but i'm terrified of how the side and back would look like honestly#td2-general-chat message

[gilded oar]

Server on?

[jagged prism]

yes

[fluid meadow]

perchance
-# no

[thick yarrow]

the pact season bundle for me is £25

[hybrid ore]

@jagged prism Enough.

[jagged prism]

i mean i'm sure it's always powered on just not connected

[keen osprey]

Ignore that one, buy the 2000+600 credit bundle that will grant a free mask

[fluid meadow]

that reminded me of van gogh idk why

[thick yarrow]

red eye pack?

[keen osprey]

Thats the one.

[remote pecan]

sounds like buying nfts in here 😄

[thick yarrow]

thats also £25

[keen osprey]

Its 20 euros for me

Should be cheaper in sterling £

[dry gate]

this chat.. it's always full of unexpected twists and turns, drama and interesting things.. I said I was going to bed 2 hours ago and I'm still reading and typing..

[thick yarrow]

nope its £25

[jagged prism]

30usd for the pact bundle, 20usd for the red eye pack

[fathom glacier]

game update division 2 now

[iron gust]

Positively surprised they fixed the season pass yesterday so people could buy it before the season end

[keen osprey]

That shouldnt be,

2000 credits should never be 25 pounds.

[fathom glacier]

divisin 2 uPDATE NOW

[thick yarrow]

its a 1 time offer

[dry gate]

MIKEEEEEEE

[hybrid ore]

$50 AUD for the pact bundle, $50 AUD for the red eye.

[fathom glacier]

WHOS GOING BUY PREMIUM SEASON PASS?

[jagged prism]

was going to say, swore they never stopped that at all. only thing they stopped was people using premium credits to buy stretch goals 1-10 infinitely

[cyan narwhal]

not me im broke

[fathom glacier]

can i play to lvl 40 before i buy new york and brooklyn expansion?

[keen osprey]

Sounds about right. 28 euro = 50 Aud

[south topaz]

yes

[hybrid ore]

@fathom glacier Yep, everyone gets access to Lvl 40.

[jagged prism]

yes, all in DC if you so choose

[fathom glacier]

worth to buy new york and brooklyn? 45 euro cost still :S

[thick yarrow]

this season is gonna be interesting with the new retaliation

[jagged prism]

would it be slower leveling in DC these days?

[hybrid ore]

Buy the DLC's on sale.

[iron gust]

Nah it was broken, there's posts on the ubi support discord
Couldn't buy the pass even with enough credits

[south topaz]

another grind for modifiers today damn

[dry gate]

IMO yes.. NY is solid, Brooklyn is excellent

[keen osprey]

Surely they'll discount it again soon? That sounds like the amount I paid full price between the two (30 for wony like 5 years ago)

[jagged prism]

yes even more grindy leveling up the active modifiers (> <)

[thick yarrow]

i still need to finish brooklyn before i can do WONY since you can't access NY if you don't finish brooklyn first if you've started brooklyn first

[dry gate]

eh?

[keen osprey]

In fairness, the upgrade perk for each active modifier are terrible

[south topaz]

• controlling whole map to get 30% weapon damage ☠️

[fathom maple]

This week is a hell for looter shooters addicts😭

[fathom glacier]

so brooklyn first before new york?

[thick yarrow]

the pilot doesn't return to DC until you beat brooklyn if you've started that dlc

[keen osprey]

Story wise you should do WONY first but do Cony Island ball park, amusement park then WONY campaign

[jagged prism]

i know 1 method: active modifier get kills and experience" 2nd method: spam retaliations for faction of the active modifier you want to level up

[dry gate]

I was confused.. cause I know you could do NY before brooklyn.. but you already started brooklyn so i don't know about that.

[fathom maple]

And just to not get the Buff bc u decided to go to countdown/raid/PL

[thick yarrow]

NY first, i started brooklyn first because i finished WONY on PS4 before moving to PC

[fathom glacier]

@keen osprey so i do first to lvl 40 in my area? then i buy more ldlc

[hybrid ore]

Brooklyn is going to heavily spoil WONY, just an FYI.

[fathom glacier]

so we new player started in DC?

[keen osprey]

Complete base game first if youre going for story. If its about completion and ignoring lore then just run through it now

[dull cypress]

oh i sure love patch days

[thick yarrow]

i know what happens in WONY since i finished before on playstation

[jagged prism]

it's really upto you.
the old progression was dc to 30, move to new york (warlords of new york) for 31-40 which you were stuck to until you beaten it

[dry gate]

you can play the game without ever getting a DLC.. but if you want to experience it all and get new skills having DLCs will round it all up.

[fathom glacier]

oh ok sorry im still new

[hybrid ore]

Just wait until they're on heavy sale.
you can sometimes buy WONY+BfB in a combo pack.

[keen osprey]

Playing the game without the expansions is like forcefully keeping training wheels on a bike when youre like 40

[thick yarrow]

yep but for me im stuck in brooklyn so i can't do WONY till i've beaten that and i know the story of WONY so i don't need to worry about spoilers

[fathom glacier]

thanks guy.

[jagged prism]

pretty sure black friday will probably sell a bundle of both WONY and Brooklyn nearly 20ish usd

[dry gate]

I actually I think it was on sale very recently.. maybe still is.. WONY+Brooklyn was like $15-$20 or something in between.

[thick yarrow]

they're not on sale on steam

[keen osprey]

Even at full price its worth it but i mean we are biased after all 🤣

[dry gate]

I'm gonna actually check right now. I know someone else wanted to get it.. I think it was Ubisoft Connect deal

[fluid meadow]

would seperate be also on sale if one is bought but not the other?

[hybrid ore]

Not always.

last sale it was both or none.

[jagged prism]

Brooklyn gives you 1 exotic, 1 named ar and 1 new skill
wony 4 skills, 1 named chest and i feel like i'm missing something there

[fathom glacier]

so this new update came , its including new area too? like better than new york and brooklyn?

[jagged prism]

no new area

[thick yarrow]

no just a new mode for the open world

[keen osprey]

Lots of cosmetics, commendations, achievements, patches

[fathom glacier]

can you tell me wich new game mode will be?

[thick yarrow]

retaliation

[jagged prism]

Retaliation. AKA taking back Control points

[hybrid ore]

open world territory control thing.

[dry gate]

eh.. sadly the deal is off.. it's back to $39.99 for both WONY + Brooklyn

[jagged prism]

new materials to grind to build exotics that you'll probably want

[thick yarrow]

but you have to annoy factions before the retaliation occurs and it lasts for 6 hours

[keen osprey]

You can also force the retaliation meter with the project

[jagged prism]

correction. the 6 hours is to initiate the retaltion which then drops to 7ish minutes

[fathom glacier]

wich one u would buy first after im reaching to lvl 40... warlords of new york or brooklyn?

[thick yarrow]

yeah and goes up for every kill you get on the control points

[keen osprey]

War Lords

[dry gate]

NY..

[jagged prism]

2 seconds isn't much honestly. it's the maneuvers and kill squad that matters for time honestly

[fathom maple]

Warlords have way more content, Brooklyn is just if u want know the full story

[dry gate]

CPs gave a ton of time in PTS

[thick yarrow]

and how powerful you are and if you have enough damage to kill them within the time limit

[thick yarrow]

because they were only testing the mode before releasing it

[hybrid ore]

The manoeuvres are interesting, I've been wanting summit style challenges in the main game for a while now.

[jagged prism]

first pts i didnt' have a striker build to run it so i always failed it
2nd pts i had my striker build and itw made it easier

[keen osprey]

Id love to know the data on how many people play the game without the expansions.

I remember before when we had to be 40 to experience everything, I seen 3 people with 100+ days played and still sat at 30

[thick yarrow]

also this new automatic pistol seems kinda meh for a manhunt reward on master difficulty

[jagged prism]

you were able to pay attentiont to those? i've only seen notifications "you finished this maneuver here's x time" i'm like what?!

[keen osprey]

Take that back. Bulwark shield go brrrrr

[thick yarrow]

i meant its talent, you have to intentionally break your shield for it to occur

[dry gate]

this is true, but Brooklyn has much better and quality missions over NY.. IMO.. WONY missions are like great when you do them once, but on repeat they don't hold as good.. the Brooklyn ones are banger every time you play them.

[fathom maple]

The dmg is good, talent useless, good option for full shield players

[fathom glacier]

anygood website to watch guides/builds division 2?

[jagged prism]

until you're one of the poor souls who played army terminal for 100 times for 1 exotic mask drop

[rocky heath]

Ikia on youtube, rogue gold, nothingbutskillz

[dry gate]

I feel that

[fathom glacier]

ty

[rocky heath]

Kamakazivondoom aswell

[primal skiff]

Wony brooklyn is optional

[hybrid ore]

please don't recommend skillz/roguegold for builds.

[jagged prism]

if you want lore in a cinematic fashion NGN

[hybrid ore]

or KVD

[thick yarrow]

that refinery one though is annoying especially with the warhound

[rocky heath]

What about ikia?

[jagged prism]

what about RB?

[primal skiff]

Striker elmo and it melts

[fathom maple]

Nah KVD is the worst, 40 mins for a simple striker build

[frozen relic]

there is a pinned gear spreadsheet containing good builds in build advice

[keen osprey]

The game director made a good point on stream yesterday about the pistol and that they knew the stats of the pistol was good enough that the talent was there just for the scape goat aspect of having more damage when youre vulnerable. They said they seen our feedback on it but dont want to change it based on how it already performs. Probs need an ikea spreadsheet to know the real truth

[rocky heath]

He does talk quite slow that’s fair ig

[primal skiff]

Did that shit heroic solo

[dry gate]

whaaatt.. Refinery is awesome..

[thick yarrow]

im just glad i have tinkerer on PC but not playstation

[hybrid ore]

Ryan Baimbridge is good.
ikia is fine, but hardly useful if you want a guide. and not an entire essay, sources included.

[fathom maple]

Yea but striker? Is just shoot to enemies, if its a complex skill build i can understand but striker?

[dry gate]

so Catalyst turned out to be a bit of dissapointment didn't it?

[jagged prism]

i meant Running Butcher XD

[keen osprey]

sit back, grab your popcorn

Yeah gonna need about 3 fields of corn for that video

[hybrid ore]

Oh god

[rocky heath]

Gotta get the 10 mins like every other sloptuber does

[thick yarrow]

you also need lefty or an acs-12 shotgun as secondary to keep the stacks up

[hybrid ore]

Okay just because no one has outright said this yet: don't use the bulk of youtubers for builds in div2.
they're clickbait.

[jagged prism]

thanks rivens i needed that laugh

[dry gate]

omg.. not to speak bad about "content creators" but I've seen a few of his videos.. the way he starts it "legendary S-TIER god build" and then has trouble clearing stuff on heroic. I don't know man.

[keen osprey]

Here's 4 green pieces and obliterate. HIGH DAMAGE DPS AMAZING INCREDIBLE | DIVISION 2 INSANE BUILD

[rocky heath]

I seen that coming but cmon what about ikia, he has data, spreadsheets, google docs, like the whole shabang

[jagged prism]

i can't stand his voice. it's like he's obviously trolling with his build videos and getting off on it

[hybrid ore]

@rocky heath yes, and he will say the entire thing out in incredible detail, for an hour and a HALF

[fathom maple]

new Broken build with the new exotic AR (is a striker build)

[hybrid ore]

iKia loves the sound of his own voice so much that I think his watchtime is entirely based off 1 video.

[jagged prism]

i'd say more power to you if you can sit and listen and watch for that amount of time, i just want it quickly so i know what to go for honestly

[rocky heath]

Fair, damn

[hybrid ore]

If you just use his guides in the spreadsheet, you'll be golden.

[rocky heath]

That’s usually what I go off, not his vids

[thick yarrow]

who's?

[jagged prism]

Ikia

[hybrid ore]

iKia, Raucey, localdeck are our "big 3" for damn good builds.

[jagged prism]

i like Rauceya nd local deck builds honestly

[thick yarrow]

do any of the use st elmo's?

[rocky heath]

I haven’t heard of them until now

[remote pecan]

I did that on PTS and the other issue is that spreadsheets show only numbers, sometimes there is a difference in how the perform ingame

[cyan ermine]

When will the server open?

[thick yarrow]

in about 3 hours

[fathom maple]

3 hours and 15 mins

[jagged prism]

3ish hours? if no exentsions

[hybrid ore]

@rocky heath Open up the spreadseet, the builds in there are updated as needed, and are all Heroic tier at least.

[thick yarrow]

but also they could finish maintenance early

[jagged prism]

i predict 2 1 hour exentions XD

[thick yarrow]

some of the builds are still in Y6 S3

[hybrid ore]

They're still good, then.

[jagged prism]

localdeck leans more on the mortar supremecy build than anything but yeah i did like what i saw in his profile for builds

[fathom maple]

Last maintenance they ended It earlier so i hope now can be the same

[fathom maple]

Mortarzzzzz

[hybrid ore]

div can be a very stagnant game for builds, if a build is really old, it means it still functions.

[rocky heath]

I actually have a question for you that you might be able to answer, I have a Corsair armpatch and I’m trying to see if it’s rare or not, supposedly it was given to players back in 2019 during a maintenance weekend for like a collab or something, do you know anything about the patch?

[cyan ermine]

I guess.. 7 PM?

[thick yarrow]

so ikia is a good one to look at for builds?

[fathom maple]

Idk ur time zone but ig yes

[thick yarrow]

for me thats 2pm

[hybrid ore]

@rocky heath That is not something I recognise, but gimme a sec.

[dry gate]

he's Gandalf of Division 2

[dull cypress]

iKia and generally #td2-build-advice also because we have some helpful ppl in here

[cyan ermine]

Indonesian 🙏

[jagged prism]

if you click on teh pin in the upper right there's a message that converts to your local time

[hybrid ore]

talks for 30 years between cuts.

[thick yarrow]

oh yeah i forgot pestilence might become really strong with tipping scales

[dull cypress]

truly a lost artform in the age of short term content LOL

[cyan ermine]

Where's pin bruv?

[hybrid ore]

if you're a deep-cut LOTR +div2 fan, you can appreciate that joke.
It's a rare subset, I admit.

@cyan ermine #td2-build-advice > 📌 > spreadsheet 2 > builds.

[jagged prism]

to the left of the search box

[remote pecan]

depends, there is a difference in maintenances, like if it's a big update like a dlc release or a whole new season or just a minor update

[jagged prism]

eh, pesitlence doesn't crit so i doubt tipping scales will power it up

[hybrid ore]

@rocky heath Do you know what rarity it is?

[rocky heath]

Grey I have a pic aswell

[cloud jewel]

how long yall thinks servers gonna be down for. my addiction cant handle this i need the DZ

[hybrid ore]

sure, post it over in #ask-td2-community

[jagged prism]

i feel a 2 1 hour extension coming for it, but that's me

[cloud jewel]

21 hours

thats a long time

[fathom maple]

No actually is 23h

[thick yarrow]

but at least i'll have a lexington on the 12th

[blissful lagoon]

10 gb update is crazy my low end laptop is goin to suffer for sure

[fathom maple]

Add that lexi to favs, we dont want another deconstruct incident

[jagged prism]

don't we get 999 exotic componenets deconstructing it though?

[fathom maple]

Trueeeeee

I forgot my lexis r my back Up for exotic components

[cyan ermine]

Untuk nyata? (For real?)

[cloud jewel]

easiest farm is join raid as low lvl and get an eagle bearer each time cuz people think you dont have it yet. gotten 7 so far

[blissful lagoon]

fr bro

[cyan ermine]

Gahdamn

[untold lantern]

I’m in UK and new to it all - just for clarification - what time zone do the servers run on? 😊

[jagged prism]

the fact you ran it that many times i question your sanity
getting 1 EB was enough for me honestly

[cloud jewel]

i wish i could post a pic

[jagged prism]

some where in europe isn't it?

[dry gate]

I bet he also made them explain the raid to him every time 🤣

[hybrid ore]

reminder that this is a converted local time: #server-status message

[fluid meadow]

now i don't know which platform i should start farming on
pc or ps?

[hybrid ore]

PC has more people.

[cloud jewel]

#fanart-and-photomode message i can like this i guess (this was my last raid) 2 people just dropped em after saying they dont care about it

[jagged prism]

why not both at the same time?

[fluid meadow]

i do be no lifing it but unfortunately a day only has 24 hours

[hybrid ore]

That should tell you exactly how good the EB is.

still fun to get though!

[jagged prism]

control yoru pc with yoru feet, control your pS with yoru hands (> <)

[dry gate]

it will get buffed.. at least that's what I tell myself 🙂

[fluid meadow]

oh yeah toe gaming

[hybrid ore]

never say those words again.

ever.

[fluid meadow]

-# sorry

[undone timber]

It's a pretty nice gun

[spare cove]

Ubi connect being a PoS for me. Anyone else?

[fathom maple]

U PvP players r the definition of demons

[undone timber]

Just no point having like 20 copies

[jagged prism]

i say that but i was actually picturing No Game No Life anime where the sister gives his brother 2 mice in his feet and he's like freaking out because he has to play 4+ characters solo

[hybrid ore]

You watch weird stuff.

[jagged prism]

sadly i do, and that anime will never get another season 😭 was so good

[hybrid ore]

too late, I've already added a note "likes to talk about anime feet".

[rocky heath]

Sheesh bud got put on a list alr 😂

[undone timber]

[cloud jewel]

toe gaming

[fluid meadow]

we have witnessed the first instance of someone who uses notes on users

[hybrid ore]

that explains the name.
lostsole

[jagged prism]

😹 and i went to another discord wondering why i lost my "Weeb" server tag and was like oh they lost the boosts

[fluid meadow]

weebs and being unemployed are usually synonymous

[jagged prism]

nods another show i watch a Cleric loves shoes

[hybrid ore]

@fluid meadow They're actually a very useful moderation tool, we use them all the time.
It's a good way to keep track if someone is approaching a ban, etc.

[rocky heath]

Like flatline and the linked laser pointer

[jagged prism]

waht?! not flatline and nightwatcher?!

[fluid meadow]

tru actually tho u guys must have a log channel right

[hybrid ore]

The admins set it all up, we just keep the place tidy.

[rocky heath]

There’s another talent that goes on the chest thats basically flatline, or maybe it’s a weapon talent, I think it’s spotter?

[keen osprey]

Release the files 🤔😅

[jagged prism]

spotter be it. i honestly mix spotter and flatline up

[fluid meadow]

separation of concerns
neat

[rocky heath]

Those two and the linked laser pointer smack

[jagged prism]

but nightwatcher your pulse is ready before it falls off XD

[rocky heath]

Hmmm, I’ll investigate

[jagged prism]

don't it's a huge loss in dps honestly

[rocky heath]

😭

[jagged prism]

it's a Gila piece

[rocky heath]

Ohhhhh yup I know the one

[hybrid ore]

sacrificing a gear slot so you dont have to run the Technician Tree is a bad trade.

[jagged prism]

nods coyote or ceska would be leagues better there

[hybrid ore]

"i took the seats and engine out of my car, now its much lighter" kinda feels.

[fluid meadow]

And a skill slot

And the ease of mind to not have to press a button every 6 seconds
-# looking at energised munitions in WF

[jagged prism]

was going to ask if nightwatcher helped that 4th pulse where it highlights a random body and we do more damage if shot there, but was like probably not worth it still XD

[hybrid ore]

yours take all 6 seconds? what kinda duration you running, mine lasts under 2.

[fathom maple]

Average acceltra gameplay

[fluid meadow]

There's a reason i like playing gauss
He scales his redline with duration so i casually run 400%+ dur on him and not have to spam stuff

[dusty iron]

ARe servers down right now?

[rocky heath]

I haven’t touched WF in a hot min

[hybrid ore]

im in australia, so if i run gauss, i just spend half my time running into doors.

[jagged prism]

yes for 2ish hours i want to say?

granting my prediction for 2x 1 hour extensions doesn't come into play

[fathom maple]

Titania with volt and wisp in the team is worse than that

[dusty iron]

Thanks Rivens, any info on how long they will be?

[fluid meadow]

I did a crazy mach rush with no interruption IN SANCTUM while doing alchemy
-# but i had the wrong amphor while going to the next crucible

[hybrid ore]

@dusty iron #server-status message

thats local time there.

[dusty iron]

Ah i must had hidden that, thank you

[hybrid ore]

No worries, that whole section is quite useful.

you can read up on the notes over in #news-and-announcements in the downtime.

[jagged prism]

there's also a pin where .drib inputted the downtime and shows local to your area as well

[tiny oar]

yeah that is very useful cause i can never keep track of what the timezone is

[jagged prism]

yeah, my brain can't math that much

[tiny oar]

i love maths but this is more timezone knowledge and knowing who's where

[fluid meadow]

i love that time zone thing so bad i wish it was implemented everywhere

[tiny oar]

and i hate geography its boring af

[hybrid ore]

hah, boring. i get it.

[jagged prism]

exactly. i hate trying to figure out ok. 3+ my hours for est but how many more do i gotta add for Europe and asia?

[tiny oar]

i love how rivens is the one getting all my jokes yet the one that enjoy them the least lmao

[fluid meadow]

i have a friend from aus and a friend from the us and a friend from the uk
i am NOT remembering all their timezones

[tiny oar]

known glitch, should be patched

[jagged prism]

probably something like that but that's an exploit/glitch so can't be discussed

[fluid meadow]

you will be wrong in approximately 3 hours

[torpid plume]

Thx for letting me know about it

[fluid meadow]

nuked

[jagged prism]

oof, there's your warning

[jagged prism]

and you see i don't want to atttemp to math something like that XD

[fluid meadow]

i love the timer because when i hold enter it does an earthquake on my screen

[thick yarrow]

well ofc its only something, i was only told by my dad yesterday so i wasn't aware of it till now, so sorry 🙂

[spare cove]

Is anyone else unable to login to Ubisoft connect?

[fluid meadow]

your dad is cool for playing a game you play

[tiny oar]

its ok, just talking how to do glitches isnt allowed

[iron gust]

Just remember gotta check later if they have granted the Gamescom shirt
They haven't said anything about it

[jagged prism]

no kidding. mine likes to play microsoft solitaire

[fluid meadow]

dad plays table games so it's still cool

[jagged prism]

like D&D table games or something else? that reminds me i should see if my friends wants to try playing a D&D meets jackbox game with me sometime 🤔

[fluid meadow]

dunno if you know carrom but man is it fun

[jagged prism]

it's going to be interesting trying to balance div 2 and borderlands 4

[eager talon]

Same, a good problem to have

[jagged prism]

never heard of carrom, looks interesting

[fluid meadow]

i'd have troubles writing sometimes if some games get heated

[jagged prism]

i'd love to get into Majhong though. complete with a shuffling table XD

[fluid meadow]

Checkers sound fun too

[jagged prism]

looks like a game you'd really have to have a very good poker face

[fluid meadow]

But between friends nothing beats uno for me

[sinful jasper]

Any link to when the servers goes up? Is it global patch launch?

[fluid meadow]

Pin

[simple ridge]

Pinned message

[jagged prism]

new season, new game mode

[sinful jasper]

I should have guess 🤣

[fluid meadow]

Rare juh appearance

[jagged prism]

my guess rivens made it in game ahead of all of us (> <)

[fluid meadow]

Gotta get those insider connections

[sinful jasper]

Must say I am amazed by the ideas the have for reasons and modifiers. This feel like the best so far. Not just stats and actual lore connection

[jagged prism]

i'll be interested in how much hybrid builds we can get taking on true sons

[sinful jasper]

The health drug one? Sound supercool, I would go for it if I knew it would stay and not just being a modifier. What of the gameplay is superfun

[jagged prism]

the health drug one is hyena Spiced up i think? well know it's definitely spiced up just dont' remember the faction

[fluid meadow]

Zealot sounds good for tanking with a rather not so tanky build (full red)
I wanna stack that with defender and eagle bearer to see how much damage reduction i can get

[hollow hill]

Per chance does anyone know the update size on Steam?

[keen osprey]

I miss that coils passive modifier so much

[jagged prism]

huh, i wonder if the zealot can spread from ep if you get a kill that way? 🤔

[keen osprey]

10 gigglybits

[jagged prism]

think someone up above said 10 gig?

[hollow hill]

Sounds good 🙏

Can't wait to dive into it

[iron gust]

Ubi connect it's 10.7, steam is 7ish for w/e reason

[jagged prism]

got your 3 man squad hyped up?

[hollow hill]

I'll have you know one of them is a girl 🤠

[wraith girder]

2 more hours for the ETA?

[fluid meadow]

And a half

[jagged prism]

there abouts

[hollow hill]

Give or take, yes. It can be extended so assume it's a lie

[fluid meadow]

Don't take it as word of gospel tho

[wraith girder]

and a half? it's 5:30 eta

[fluid meadow]

2 hours and 30 mins away

[wraith girder]

yes, i know what an eta is 😄

[jagged prism]

i predict 2x 1 hour extensions XD

[hollow hill]

Yes but assume it's lying and it'll likely be extended

[hollow hill]

I'd bet money on it negl

[fluid meadow]

Expect worst case scenario so you can be happy with mediocre timings

[wraith girder]

should be just 2 hours

[toxic lily]

Bundle store, please be something that is not a repeated bundle

[eager talon]

Press space to start

[hollow hill]

Watch it be a $30 bundle

[fluid meadow]

I cast recruiter outfit

[jagged prism]

.drib posted the bundles

[fluid meadow]

Press q to exit

[south topaz]

i expect 1hr before time server up

[toxic lily]

I could've bought Faye lau eye patch and if there is a bandana...

[jagged prism]

yeah, way way way up there#td2-general-chat message

[thin oasis]

My guess is 1.5 hour extension

[unreal perch]

I bet 2

[jagged prism]

i kind of like the red eye look but fear the side and back would look horrible

[thin oasis]

I hope new gear is in TL somewhere cause countdown will be a cesspool for a couple of days lol

[unreal perch]

🤣

[jagged prism]

zoo or army terminal. maybe liberty island?

[south topaz]

one of those time in 3/4 month when i have to play countdown 🤷🏻

[fluid meadow]

Jarvis put the new gearset and brandset in darpa research labs and camp white oak

[jagged prism]

i was hoping i was choosing the long missions for it XD

[south topaz]

countdown challenging is just broken so i play heroic now 😶

[thin oasis]

God no, not zoo

[jagged prism]

what about contaminated gear in DZ so you have to safely extract it? XD

[fluid meadow]

Oh hell yeah have it in dz
Other people can farm for me then

[remote pecan]

no TL at all for the new gear 😄

[fluid meadow]

My own personal mules

[jagged prism]

that will be hour 2x 1 hour extension. bringing it up realizing they never put it in the target loot loop bring it down, bring up to test it and still not working bring it back down

lot of moderators on. like we're driving down the road with speed traps (> <)

[remote pecan]

don't suck all hope out of my body like a Dementor 😄

[jagged prism]

i'm kidding though. i doubt they'd mess up like that honestly

[fluid meadow]

• you're being watched

[remote pecan]

just waiting for a reason to ban 😂

[jagged prism]

pretty much. see people coming "server up?" and i'd tell them yes

[remote pecan]

we don't allow war crimes in here

[jagged prism]

curious how many people are spamming "log in" atm XD

[fluid meadow]

If i try for the gazillioth time it's gonna work

[tender wave]

It's always extra active on discord when the servers are down and everyone's waiting impatiently for the new season

[grim rain]

Servers back up yet? lol

[jagged prism]

yeah, been in this long enough to know and you guys tend to add some extra seconds before we can post another message

[remote pecan]

streamers life right now 😄

[jagged prism]

and complaining "i'm losing money right now!"?

[fluid meadow]

I swearrr i knew it was 10 seconds
I thought i was being bad again

[hybrid ore]

We can make it longer if you prefer.

[jagged prism]

yes, 3 hours if possible XD

[hybrid ore]

Someone did try and bribe us to make it 6 hours.
that would solve a lot of problems.

[median ridge]

Servers are still down ?

[jagged prism]

like i could totally see "choose your words carefully" from a mod and the timer set to hours XD

[remote pecan]

you can get a personal treatment as long as you want, if you ask the mods politely 😄

[jagged prism]

nah, i doubt it can be set for personal stuff honestly. otherwise it'd be chaotic if one does do it for one person but don't let other mods know then there won't be changes

[jagged prism]

yes, the pins here indicates the time it'll be up in your timezone already converted

[opaque lion]

with how bad the traffic is, i might be home by the 2nd maintenance extension

[jagged prism]

don't know how to see the pins on phones or if console has an option you'll have to go there to see it

[jagged prism]

with you and dorky away from you computer servers will go up earlier i bet (> <)

[hybrid ore]

Actually timeouts are really easy to add, we use them all the time.

[fluid meadow]

Ohh could you put me on a timer till the servers come back

[jagged prism]

oh? thought the timer was more of an all server thing or nothing kind of deal?

[remote pecan]

dunno about consoles, but on phones they're pretty easy to find
click on the chats name -> pinned messages

[eager talon]

Lol I just learned how to check pinned on phones for the longest time I have used discord ( since 2017 )

[vagrant storm]

Hey im a returning player and started with new char with friends. Already in endgame but didnt go to new york yet because i cant remember if i can move back and forth freely between DC and NY when i havent completed NY story yet?

[hybrid ore]

@vagrant storm You can nowadays, yeah.

[jagged prism]

i believe their "one update" change they made it so you're not stuck to NY anymore

[vagrant storm]

Huh thanks. Need to do it sometimes to help some friends who are a bit behind. Thanks!

[hybrid ore]

The only real restriction is that you need to reach Haven if you start in WONY, Bridge if you start in BfB.

[fluid meadow]

i suggest doing all rogue agents but keener and get the last levels in dc

[jagged prism]

think retaliation can be a thing to use for leveling people?

[south topaz]

no too less xp

[signal fulcrum]

TD2 servers down ? 🙁

[grand brook]

Servers still down?

[desert axle]

You have first to do a little quest befor you can go back to DC

[jagged prism]

yes, the pins here indicated the estimate when it'll be up in your time zone

[desert axle]

till 2:30

[signal fulcrum]

ohh i see thank you!!

[hybrid ore]

In about 2 hours.

[signal fulcrum]

suppose i should do some work in the meantime then lol

[jagged prism]

one reason i love this server. they put the downtime in your converted time zone bit so no guessing from seeing the post with their time zone and trying to convert for your own

[median ridge]

Thank you 🙏🏼

[jagged prism]

nah, work can wait (> <)

[desert axle]

yes, download the update 😂

[fluid meadow]

I did that one time last season and ended up turning on my system 12 hours before it's out 😭

[remote pecan]

I mean basically a Discord feature

[thin oasis]

Servers are up 😏

[signal fulcrum]

is there another update once its back up it already did one this morning for me

[jagged prism]

nah, that should be all it takes

we're getting a new season. new gearset, new brand set and a new game mode

[signal fulcrum]

sweeeet, urgh 2 hours tho 😭 💀

[fluid meadow]

I think ill play on my ps first to get a pvp build with the new gearset

[signal fulcrum]

i havnt played TD2 in sometime so ive just restarted a new character over the last couple of days

[desert axle]

im so happy about the this :
Fixed the issue where the "Neutralize named enemies" project objective was not shared while in a group.

[jagged prism]

you brave. i don't think i could ever do that

[desert axle]

not for me

[signal fulcrum]

still have my OG character tho but yeah i forgot how much there is to do god damn 😂

[fluid meadow]

It's easyy i did it on pc
-# i still miss not having everything at 30 and godrolled

[desert axle]

i played a lot a character to 40..is is fun for me

[jagged prism]

well, i did the 30-40 watch mule thing pretty extensively so probably why i'm like "i can't level another character"

[signal fulcrum]

yeah the grind is savage to do it again but its fun so its not too bad

[jagged prism]

only reason i made a new character is because someone was like "the level 40 boost don't work" so i tried it and was like oh it's showing to level to 30 boost intead of 40?! wtf?! then deleted the character and did the level to 40 brooklyn boost option

[desert axle]

me to, was a lot of fun 😅 i have optimized the leveling gear the whole time.

[jagged prism]

let me tell you, that was painful to do. 3x 2 different sets of brands, 2 being purple.....ugh never again

[fluid cipher]

is the update live?

[jagged prism]

yes, you can download it but servers are still down for 2ish hours

[desert axle]

i have do it to two charakters..the only problem i had is the NY from one of the charakter is nearly empty. there are just enemy at the CP+Named but no activities at all. Very need to farm creates.

[fluid cipher]

thank ya

[elfin hazel]

servers up

USE

[desert axle]

yes there are up

[jagged prism]

drib coming in to troll us? (> <)

[fluid meadow]

WHAT

[south topaz]

server is up

[desert axle]

no 100% up

[fluid meadow]

I JUST TURNED OFF MY SYSTEM

[jagged prism]

i'im just teasing ya drib

[fluid meadow]

GOD
DAMN IT

[jagged prism]

massive knew. watching your every move

[thin oasis]

See...i was right.... 🤣

[elfin hazel]

they've changed the journey system again

[thick yarrow]

well thats is 2 hours earlier

[jagged prism]

eh?

[elfin hazel]

all the modifiers seem to unlock at journey mission 2

and theres another mask for the final journey mission which you get by doing 2-7

[jagged prism]

the actives

ewww, suture mask last journey reward

[fluid meadow]

Ok ok we doing countdown till i get EVERYTHING

[vale rune]

Mannhunt? Riddle.... this season?

[desert axle]

not really a riddle. more some tasks like the lase season

[jagged prism]

ewwww, endurance mask?

[upbeat umbra]

maintenance done!!

[vale rune]

Ok. So there Will be manhunt, they did not mention yesterday

[jagged prism]

i imagine the passive is seperated between the 3-6 journeys

[dark flicker]

Im so sleepy and dead. Perfect time to play new update xD

[hollow hill]

I'd like to see what it looks like 🙏 I'm AFK and won't be able to update till later

[elfin hazel]

posted it in#divashion

[hollow hill]

Thank you 🔥 and bruh... It's literally the one slasher bundle we got not long ago.... But just as the mask

[median ridge]

Servers are up guys

[thick yarrow]

im still thinking if i should buy the red eye pack

[spare cove]

If you want the headgear and the extra premium credits, I don't see the harm

[fluid meadow]

why u yapping go farm

[median ridge]

Who the f r u ?

[spare cove]

Man, you guys are lucky. I have to deal with dolphin errors due to Ubi connect not allowing me to log-in

[thick yarrow]

so from the looks of the events, it seems this season is 2 months

[iron gust]

Proficiency 3x XP event

[thick yarrow]

since the last event ends in november

[opaque lion]

what's the invaded missions this week?

[upbeat umbra]

GRAND HOTEL IS ONE OF THEM

[iron gust]

10 scouts 🤔

[spare cove]

How many Manhunt comms

[opaque lion]

oh nice, my friend can finally get the Nemesis Blueprint

[upbeat umbra]

Jeff trade center, Bank HQ, Grand hotel

[thick yarrow]

the red eye pack does save me £20 for when the next 2 seasons start

[iron gust]

11

[languid mist]

Didnt they fix project ! bug and mail ! bug?

[remote pecan]

you can save much more by not buying at all 😄

[cobalt saddle]

Server not up?

[wraith girder]

it is up

[elfin hazel]

servers up yes

[cobalt saddle]

It showing ubisoft services not available

[wraith girder]

well who cares about their services, servers are up

[ancient verge]

Did they up the price of the one time offer or something

[remote pecan]

you need them to connect 😄

[keen osprey]

It is not an offer in any way. They can get fugged if they think 30 is worth it

[wraith girder]

doubt that

[hollow hill]

He's giving you good advice 🔥 new gear, new toys, new apparel, new stuff to do

[median ridge]

Who asks for his advice ?

[spare cove]

Some of y'all have a personall vendetta against Ubisoft

[ancient verge]

26 for 2600 credits and a mask

[median ridge]

Mind your own business

[hollow hill]

I question who pissed in your cheerios this morning 💀

[ancient verge]

But I can get 4000 for the same price Tf

[opaque lion]

maintenance ended early and no server queuing? must be Christmas

[hollow hill]

Are you a corndog? You sure have a stick up your ass rn 😂

[wraith girder]

did someone piss in your tea

[median ridge]

What a lowlife 🤣

[spare cove]

Then don't buy the offer. You don't have a gun held to your head

[light ermine]

Fixed the issue with loadout swapping that caused multiple talents to stack through the Abridged Talent.

Now: still can be stack ....... where is the fix

[hollow hill]

Somebody is triggeredddddddd

[ancient verge]

Never said there was

[hollow hill]

When Kelso comes back, there might be

[median ridge]

What a toxic community here , mods are gone too

[ancient verge]

😂😂

[wraith girder]

LOL

[remote pecan]

lul I got a vanity reward from the Summer Swarm Cache from the next Stretch Goals

[hollow hill]

I mean.... Tbh you were being pretty disrespectful over stuff that wasn't deep in the first place

[fluid meadow]

damn we bugged countdown

[wraith girder]

comes in aggressive as heck, says community is toxic

[spare cove]

Please tell me you're not still upset over Kelso killing that traitor doctor.

[hollow hill]

Poo poo emoji just like your attitude 😂

[spare cove]

Goddamn app won't let me log in

Let me play the game, Ubi. Please

[wraith girder]

yeah mods wouldn't help you. if anything, they'd get rid of you

[hollow hill]

LOOOOL @elfin hazel

[opaque lion]

man we still don't have Modifiers loadout

just realized that

[hollow hill]

I mean I wasn't the one being negative really 👌

[dire ravine]

Bruh so it wasn't actually fixed

[wraith girder]

that was for the guy

[hollow hill]

Clarification helped 🙏 ty

[hollow hill]

Welp 💀 pvp is still cooked

[dire ravine]

Right

[spare cove]

Ubi connect is a broken PoS and likes to screw me over

[light ermine]

still can see people get 3-4 talents on white house

[remote pecan]

no, but at least people weren't to open about it

[hollow hill]

I love how that's all everyone is worried about rn 😂

[spare ocean]

Servers still down or nah

[wraith girder]

nope

[spare ocean]

Darnit well thanks

Welp back to Ghost of Tsushima

[fluid meadow]

huh?

[remote pecan]

only wants to play if servers are down 😄

[keen osprey]

The trusty striker hazpro is no more 🙁

[desert crystal]

Whats that

[cyan musk]

Maintenance is done season live?

[keen osprey]

Yes

[cyan musk]

One of the seasonal modifiers gave a bunch of hazard protection

[spare cove]

Previous season modifier

[cyan musk]

Let's go

[upbeat umbra]

lol so backfire meta is still here?

[spare cove]

Now, can this Ubi connect just effin work?

[keen osprey]

Dont think so, even with 4 pieces and a yahl youre at 70%

[cyan musk]

Not bf haz pro bc the modifier is gone now

[spare cove]

Backfire was only gonna be meta in Y7S1

[cyan musk]

Honestly I'm kinda excited to try out that new zealot modifier

[desert crystal]

That one thats a cross between decent and open world sounds good

[opaque lion]

Backfire still has a build but very much has to commit to Hazpro more than it did

[torpid plume]

Server back up?

[loud fox]

yes, has been for a while

anyone know where to claim our turmoil/lexingtons?

[elfin hazel]

wait for friday

[desert axle]

"Capture all CP in a named zone" what is a named zone?

[cyan musk]

White house, southwest, federal triangle, etc

[simple ridge]

When you hover over a zone in the map it has a name, so every zone is a named zone

[desert axle]

I captured one in downtown east, but it did not count

[cyan musk]

You have to get all of them

[desert crystal]

What we on about

[cyan musk]

Named zones and the new modifier

[desert axle]

ahh..ok..thanks...so i have to free 3 zones

[remote pecan]

scout week 1 (Downtown E and Fed Triangle)

1. ||Sell items to Theater Vendor (15)||
2. ||Liberate CPs (2)||
3. ||Donate res to CPs (150)||

[blazing citrus]

[solid needle]

Is there supposed to be twitch drops?

[cyan musk]

Y'all that did the pts what's the new exotic gun?

[ember gale]

you got to be kidding. I capped out all of my CPs and now they want me to reset the damn things?

[elfin hazel]

thats how manhunts tend to be yes

[spare cove]

This is why you don't capture all control points

[hybrid ore]

Well, you should do it once, for the backpack trophy.

after that though, yeah it's a live-service game. Resetting your CP's is par for the course.

[remote pecan]

people been asking for single point resets, maybe we get something like this in the future, but that's how it works for now

[dire ravine]

Twitch drops start in 4 hours

[lyric cradle]

hello peeps im new to td2 1t time playing do i just story mission up to level 40 then the end game starts?

[torn belfry]

Correct

[round oar]

Why is the Red Eye pack $30 and not $20 like it was announced?

[torn belfry]

Then New York expansion and Brooklyn

[lyric cradle]

thank you is there anything else i should focus on?

[torn belfry]

You’ll pick it up as you go along. This server is mostly focused on builds rather than game play. Feel free to reach out to me with any questions.

[hybrid ore]

@lyric cradle DC first, then WONY, then BfB.
You can ask questions about gameplay here, not sure what they're talking about.

[lyric cradle]

thank you

[lyric cradle]

WONY and BFB dlc right?

[hybrid ore]

Correct.
you can hold off on buying them for later, you can reach endgame without them.

There's usually a sale on around a big holiday, the next one should be October.

[blazing citrus]

Halloween event

Im hyped for it tbh. Its unique

[hybrid ore]

Vampire Projects, I'm very excited.

for whatever that means.

[blazing citrus]

Did we get any more info on the skill effects?

[hybrid ore]

"details come later, as it gets closer" is the usual line we get about event details.
MSV are a dev studio that like to keep things close to the vest. It's honestly kinda nice.

[lyric cradle]

cheers for the help

[jagged prism]

it's nice they bumped up stronghold to 1 run to fill up the retaliation meter

[dire ravine]

After stretch goals I dont think I can run a stronghold for awhile 🤣

[iron gust]

The npc spam in retaliation is something else

[cyan musk]

Tipping scales is basically "what if we took strained and made it a gearset"

[hybrid ore]

That sounds kinda great.

[spare cove]

Is that supposed to be a bad thing? Cuz that makes it sound great

[cyan musk]

It's nuts someone posted a clip in #td2-build-advice showing 1.1 mil a crit without seasonal modifiers and 3 blue cores

[cyan musk]

No it is unbeliveably broken

[hollow hill]

For pvp sure

[hybrid ore]

Is this a "looks amazing on paper/in the firing range" thing?

[hollow hill]

I still don't see it being used over striker

The crit numbers and the white numbers are what's catching my eye

[cyan musk]

I don't really see why it wouldn't translate to real game as it's alr pretty easy to reach 100 striker stacks so what's 75

[hollow hill]

Striker does less for crits but more for white numbers which should mostly make up for the lesser chd

[hybrid ore]

I've had enough of those builds to last a life time.
It's not even a matter of it not beating Striker, it's just that what looks good on a spreadsheet can have terrible ingame results.

So this new gearset does nothing without a crit, yeah?

40% of the time doing nothing seems like a lot.

[cyan musk]

Yeah sadly

[fluid meadow]

if you dont crit you do 10%-20% of your dps

[languid mist]

New game mode is fun

[hybrid ore]

So at absolute most, you do 1/5th of your damage 40% of the time?

[languid mist]

But whats wrong with translation? ive checked 5 languages and they didnt translate some buttons

[fluid meadow]

rng wise yes

[languid mist]

Will it be fixed?

[cyan musk]

Most likely just make a bug report

[fluid meadow]

but the ceiling is higher

[hybrid ore]

@languid mist Of course, you've just got to report the issues.

I'll be honest, I think the floor of a build is more important.

[fluid meadow]

and take into account you dont need enemies to build up to the ceiling

you just gotta...shoot at a wall for like 10 seconds

[hybrid ore]

Sounds like immersive gameplay.

I can't wait for Mutiny's gearset where we mix paint, then watch it dry.

"use the backpack to reduce air bubbles".

[cyan musk]

Honestly kind of a miss imo to make an lmg focused gearset and then make the seasonal exotic the opposite of an lmg

[fluid meadow]

they knew pakhan was a mistake last season so they dropped this to amend it

[cyan musk]

Mistake as in too good or too bad?

[hybrid ore]

last season we got Tinkerer OD.
arguably the best LMG build in all of div2's history.

[fluid meadow]

-# even though bullet king is infinitely funnier with this gearset

[spare cove]

Really sucks seeing you guys having fun with this update while Ubisoft connect keeps blueballing me with its dolphin errors

[fluid meadow]

i might actually try 93r with this gearset until tempest drops

sooo what does one do with 3 lexingtons?

[crimson sierra]

free money i suppose

[jade summit]

Is anyone’s game messed up ?

[eager talon]

Retalation keeps telling me I am outside of retalation area but im still in the area lol

I cant get from Liberty's call safe house to the Choke

[jade summit]

I try loading the game and I get the first image and black screen

[light marlin]

hi, my game dosnt work any more

[spare cove]

Dolphin error?

[onyx rivet]

Can some of yall send de some good armor builds with good armor armor regen etc

[jade summit]

What are you getting ?

[light marlin]

my game dosnt start anymore

[wanton valley]

Wuhoh, lemme log in and see if I get it too

[jade summit]

Me too

[light marlin]

it says "anti cheat is not installed"

[jade summit]

Mine just goes to black screen

[wanton valley]

Bug-ision 2 lol

[jade summit]

Literally

[light marlin]

have 3 and different talents on the each lexington why not its nice

[jade summit]

@light marlin I just waited on the black screen and now it’s working

[light marlin]

ok good you play x boy

[jade summit]

Haha

[light marlin]

X box?

[jade summit]

Yeah

[light marlin]

i play PC

[pliant sentinel]

lvl 100 season pass and got all retaliation bp, what i do now

[fluid meadow]

touch yourse- i mean grass

[pliant sentinel]

ok pakhan in the first kill squad, thats p lucky

[fluid meadow]

dude this is genius
use cooler to stack tipping spear 😭

[pliant sentinel]

how do i find snipers bruh

[fluid meadow]

dude with the way white damage and crits work on hound legs im doing 100x the amount of damage on a crit

[tender wave]

Opening area of air and space museum on story difficulty has 3 iirc

[pliant sentinel]

👍 i forgor

[delicate scaffold]

Is anyone else missing the vender currency?

[coarse ibex]

Are the servers already back up? No extended downtime?

[hybrid ore]

Already back up, were up early actually.

[pliant sentinel]

hi rivens

[wraith girder]

what was the easy way of getting 10 nade kills?

[spare cove]

Injure enemies enough till their health bar is almost zero. Unleash foam on them. Then throw the grenade

[fluid meadow]

"Unleash"
I fw that

[velvet berry]

where is named zone?

[spare cove]

Named zone is basically the areas you're in. White House, Downtown East, Federal Triangle, etc...

[jagged prism]

i would've thought " drop difficulty to normal" lob nades

[spare cove]

It's too much time and I'd rather stay on my Heroic global difficulty

[jagged prism]

shame there's no matchmake for Retaliation in game 😢

[wraith girder]

I get it, but there were some spots where there's a bunch of dudes right at the entrance standing still

[spare cove]

Considering how regular players act in matchmaking, I prefer going solo.

[kindred brook]

Me: Shoots reinforcer chem at ally's feet Random Matchmade Ally: Continues popping armor kit

[umbral dock]

maybe they have survivor and are going to shoot while healing over 5s

[hybrid ore]

was the pixelheart backpack always 1 strap?

[lilac cape]

guy any advice on where to find lots of snipers?

[wraith girder]

i just did air and space entrance, 3 snipers. now i somehow need to do the tank thing

[valid sable]

Grenadier spec, and force them out of cover with mortars lol

[flint bridge]

I cleared Potomac Master and got Tempest as a reward.

[hybrid ore]

Why did you try and send that 3 times?

[wraith girder]

any tips for the tank challenge?

[spare cove]

It smells like trolling

[hybrid ore]

@wraith girder Traditionally, oxi chem for the Gunner challenge that was the same.

@flint bridge DM me a picture.

[wraith girder]

any sure way to find one? also what difficulty is it easier done on

[hybrid ore]

The one I farmed during that one Journey mission a few seasons back, was in DCD's tanks room, but I'm sure there's a tank at the entrance to a mission somewhere.

[remote pecan]

probably but getting stuff out of summer swarm caches, that shouldn't be in there made me think

[thick yarrow]

turns out countdown does give retaliation progress

[vale rune]

What are the answers to the first manhunt riddles this week, new season - Frustrating dont know what to do.

[hybrid ore]

Step 1: ||sell stuff to Theatre||

Step 2: ||Capture 2 Control Points in the same zone as Theatre.||
Step 3:|| donate 150 resources to said control points.||

[unique bramble]

The vendor is going to be happy when I sell 15 items that I just bought from him.

[hybrid ore]

I just bought and sold 15 lefty's.
now he's all right.

[vale rune]

Ok did first - what specific controll points?

[remote pecan]

#td2-general-chat message

[hybrid ore]

I gave you all 3 steps.

[vale rune]

Yes ok theatre area:)

[remote pecan]

Downtown E and Fed Triangle

[wraith girder]

think it can be everything east of white house

[fluid meadow]

killing an animal makes u lose 1 second 😭

[wraith girder]

deserved

[pliant sentinel]

where does the military dogtags drop

[vale rune]

Thanks

[pliant sentinel]

i guess spamming missions is the best way to get retaliations

[spare cove]

IIRC, Military Dogtags drop from True Sons during a Retaliation.

[spare cove]

There's also the daily project that allows you to aggravate a faction to 100%

[pliant sentinel]

like the bosses or every one of em

[opaque lion]

yes my favorite things to do: killing enemies with grenades and finding snipers

[pliant sentinel]

yeah those are the worst

[opaque lion]

i maxed my global modifier one before i even reached my 3rd grenade kill

[vale rune]

I thought playing open world is retaliation, how to activate retaliation

[pliant sentinel]

go to ur maps

[spare cove]

There's a retaliation tab on the map menu.

[pliant sentinel]

this is p fun tbh, i love this

reminds me of resident evil's mercenaries

[jagged prism]

you do activites/missions/strongholds for outcast/hyena/true sons to fill the meter. map and there's a retaliation tab which gives you 6 hours to respond to. once you get in retaliation you got 7ish minutes to complete it

[pliant sentinel]

once u complete the first cp u get like 11 mins total

[jagged prism]

nah, like 4 minutes added to whatever you have left

[toxic lily]

Nvr thought using one shot sniper build on retaliation solo is actually good lol

[hybrid ore]

"determined is good" is not exactly the wildest take.

[jagged prism]

it helps with the 25 2 assault headshots in 1 magazine journey objective

[desert crystal]

So its not a complete second version of open world then

[opaque lion]

i think they're gonna rework the sniper ability, it basically has 0 use and the enemy type is so infrequent

[jagged prism]

it is and it isn't. it takes you to your normal safe houses and there's a line you can't go out of too far. you do and not sure if it fails or you lose time, i'm assuming you fail

[solemn acorn]

my game taking to long to update LET ME IN

[toxic lily]

may not be wildest take, basically i got panic when i jumped by chainsaw guys lol

[opaque lion]

Rupert's Tear is pretty fun though

[hybrid ore]

i do love those cannibals.

[solemn acorn]

so, is retaliation fun?

[toxic lily]

Although one shot build sniper rifle suits me for now. 5 retaliation with this is suits for me lol

[pliant sentinel]

super fun

[solemn acorn]

i should probably make a sniper build but i feel like im gonna loose out on ad clearing

[unique bramble]

It feels like a pattern for some exotics: the best design looking gun for the worst talent.

[toxic lily]

Just use ur own build that suits ya. Playing as a sniper against a horde of whatever the enemies are i have to like stay far as possible

Unless its those Hyena rushers with helmets on

[solemn acorn]

i lowkey wanna try and use a sniper like its a shotgun

[umbral dock]

i did that while i was beating the story
take the 4x or 8x off and use it mid close range

[solemn acorn]

i mean yeah i also did that in the story dunno if its end game viable though

(designated hitter my beloved)

[spare cove]

I feel like as long as Determined stays the way it is, no one would bother to try other snipers and sniper builds will still be held hostage by that talent.

[jagged prism]

nods i'm hooked on handbasket with determined

[radiant prism]

am very disappointed that Catalyst mask is not in the list of the exotic blueprints....meh so am still going to have to farm Army Terminal; or does anyone know if Catalyst is part of general loot pool now?

[spare cove]

Catalyst can also be dropped from Brooklyn Open World Named Bosses

[radiant prism]

I tried farming those, all I got were Coyote and Vile mask drops

[small spear]

they expressed their desire to keep catalyst a "Brooklyn-exclusive" exotic; if they make a blueprint for it i think they'll have to jump through some hoops to make it craftable by only players who own the dlc

right now every retaliation exotic blueprint is intended to be craftable by everyone

[fathom glacier]

Servers open?

[spare cove]

Have been open for hours now.

[solemn acorn]

anyone figure out the scouts for this week yet, like i got the first one done but is the second one just doing control points?

[spare cove]

Yeah, with WONY exotics and items available for everyone, there's not much incentive to buy the expansion.

[jagged prism]

#td2-general-chat message

[solemn acorn]

aight thx

[cyan musk]

Has anyone got the mask and gloves for scales? I've run like half a dozen countdowns and haven't had a single drop

[vale rune]

On the retaliation tab i dont get anything mission, others like maybe bounty hmmmmm

[jagged prism]

you fill the meter via activities, missions in the case of hyena, outcast, truesons their stronghold

[whole badge]

guys from which event we can get the ( caretaker ) if you can remmeber it

[vale rune]

I try...

[jagged prism]

was a Sheperd event

if you're hunting for it, you'll have to wait until they turn on the loot goblin event of some sort

[velvet grove]

I recently deconstructed my turmoil.... and im not pass 150 for the season, how good are those kneepads?

[small spear]

it's mostly bait

[valid sable]

only good in Determined 1-shot builds otherwise pure placebo

[velvet grove]

ahh gotcha, ty

[whole badge]

there is nothing like this on events timeline bro

[jagged prism]

youtubers : you need these knees because it doubles your damage!

[jagged prism]

hence the past tense "Was"

[keen osprey]

I just got the tempest pistol from doing the manager mission lol

[cyan musk]

It already passed a while ago

[jagged prism]

sort of a FOMO. like i said later if you're trying to get one you gotta wait until they turn the loot goblin on to drop it for you

[valid sable]

we are in 3X EXPERTISE bonus XP, is it the first time? or just really rare

[languid mist]

Why not cutscenes or at least a dialogue at the beginning of the season like “bla bla bla all of them made a pact bla bla bla”

[languid bay]

Servers back?

[languid mist]

Yes

[unreal perch]

yeah

[jagged prism]

people want to play and not hear more yappintg

[small spear]

second time

[languid bay]

Kneepads w a perk ngl placebo or not its just extra stuff

[languid mist]

How does 3x expertise work? Can I just use the junk gear and have 3x?

[small spear]

yes

[jagged prism]

put on 6 improvised. kill things get 18X exp maybe?

[valid sable]

c'mon son

[cyan musk]

Does improvised gear have its own expertise?

[valid sable]

also, why not craft your way to Proficiency with the improvised gear?

[valid sable]

yes

[languid mist]

Btw how much premium credits does the premium battle pass cost

[jagged prism]

1k

[opaque lion]

retaliations is fine, just dislike how you fight everyone and everything in open spaces and you absolutely are gonna use 100 armor plates per session

[languid mist]

I expected more but still more fun than just normal CP farm

[valid sable]

i read that it was like Mercenaries mode on Resident Evil (just hordes of enemies), more action oriented... can't wait

[opaque lion]

welp, 4 exotic blueprints unlocked already

[jagged prism]

i only got busy little bee

[small spear]

gotta kill 150 enemies

[valid sable]

busty little bee is amazing

[small spear]

150 combo S+

[opaque lion]

thought the kill squads are gonna be a challenge... eh

[jagged prism]

ultra combo?

[small spear]

anyways kawaii you should watch me play re4

[opaque lion]

haven't even made a new build for this season yet, just my usual Striker Chameleon

[dark flicker]

I love that game, played it so much as a kid but the tank controls kill it for me

When i tried to play again

[hybrid ore]

okay so retaliation just stole a kill squad kill.

not a big fan of that

[dark flicker]

Wym stole? Im confused :x

[small spear]

played the remake?

[jagged prism]

like npcs killed the kill squad?

[hybrid ore]

if you focus on the final CP to capture, kill the Kill Squad before you finish it, otherwise it concludes it without a warning.

[dark flicker]

Yeah i tried and just couldnt get into it 🙁

[hybrid ore]

just "yoink", ends mid shooting

[jagged prism]

ahhh, yeah. that would suck

[opaque lion]

wait isn't there a 30 seconds window though

[hybrid ore]

30 seconds, to kill 4 named enemies

that were WAY too far away

[jagged prism]

2 or 4 of them all armored right?

[dark flicker]

Do you think we will ever get 5 remake? Or too much controversy @small spear i think 5 was my overall fav

[opaque lion]

don't they spawn pretty close to you?

[hybrid ore]

I physically couldnt even see them, they were behind a building.

[small spear]

re5 controversy is overblown imo, but i don't think they'll remake it that early.

[hybrid ore]

ya know toxic alley and that nearby territory control area with the walkway? they spsawned in that.

[opaque lion]

for me, they just spawned in the corner i was already getting to

[dark flicker]

I agree

[hybrid ore]

its not a major deal or anything, just annoying i missed out on the exo bp chance.

[jagged prism]

was it like. you were nearly finished with the CP and "Kill squad spawned" notification and you're like ok i can ooops. now to find the kill squad in 30 seconds

[hybrid ore]

i thought that there would be a "hold to end", like a countdown style extraction.

[desert crystal]

Is that new thing an automatic fail if you dont take open cps in time

[jagged prism]

ahhhh, yeah it's just take it after you kill all the npcs there XD

[hybrid ore]

i got a lud from the named cache. this is taking it too far.

[thick yarrow]

first true sons kill squad and the drop was st elmo's engine blueprint XD

[jagged prism]

least we can just take it over by touching our watch and not having to find an open top to fire a flare through

[shrewd cosmos]

How is it so far guys? Super fun with fire rate and damage?

[jagged prism]

was it you rivens that wanted to take all the CP's before this? or was that another mod?

[desert crystal]

What do you mean