td2-general-chat

[echo bone]

True...

[frozen relic]

That’ll use it

I have 2 ravs for a reason I’m lazy

[violet canyon]

You can never be too rich, too good looking or too well armed

[frozen relic]

I only need two double barrel rifles one for each hand :3

[violet canyon]

I just like using that borderlands quote, works in a number of scenarios lol

[frozen relic]

But one shoots faster than the other lol

[cyan musk]

just finished the climax mission and have to say possibly the stupidest of the climaxes so far

[kind veldt]

In what way

[violet canyon]

I think its been mentioned quite a few times already lol

[kind veldt]

Did they? I know what other people said

Always good to know if its about bugs or something else

[fathom maple]

The manager, the only person in the BT who cant use a gun

He think he is private Doss or something

[kind veldt]

Is also wearing a division ID

[cyan musk]

the final fight is insanely hard the boss basically one taps you and the arena is full of constant bomb drones

[fathom maple]

Dont forget about the 200 Sniper dogs

[astral eagle]

Hey Agents

[unreal depot]

that double marauder mission is ridiculous

[astral eagle]

Is there any secrets in this new climax mission?

[cyan musk]

honestly the dogs weren't the issue mostly just the explosives but I ended up using turret/drone

[cyan musk]

give it around 2-3 days for people to find them

[astral eagle]

Alright

[fathom maple]

I only found problems with dogs when they decided to be Obiwan and say "i have the highground"

[cyan musk]

I actually have no idea how I'm gonna ever beat the master mission which stinks bc I really want that mask

[cyan musk]

I wish bc the doors are shut the memento trophies would tp to you I spent like 80% of the fight with no stacks

[fathom maple]

For memento the final fight sucks

[cyan musk]

I ended up spending like 3/4 of the mission just kiting in the final fight while my turret and drone slowly picked off the boss

[kind veldt]

i used mostly decoy when a new wave of robo dogs appeared

that would usually give me enough time to break the sniper one that then the EMP would give me more time

[fathom maple]

The Boss is the american Sniper, 1,5M dmg per hit🫠🫠

[kind veldt]

but yeah, snipers bosses are hilariously becoming the hardest ones in this game

[cyan musk]

oh wait you're talking abt the hound fight

[kind veldt]

no i'm talking about the new boss

[cyan musk]

I'm talking abt keiko not the hound

[kind veldt]

yeah

when robo dogs appeared as backup

[cyan musk]

I didn't have dogs thank god

I had a bunch of drone operators and grenadiers

[kind veldt]

guess now you know what happens in mastery mode ;)

[cyan musk]

omw to make a high end skill build now

[kind veldt]

there are couple of other changes also but i wont spoil them

[cyan musk]

would a seeker mine build work for mastery mode?

I might just throw together a hard wired cluster spam build

[kind veldt]

not an specialist in explosives or skill builds to say better ask people at #td2-build-advice honestly

the only real skill build i like to play is eclipse protocol from time to time

and thats also very different flavour from regular skills

[cyan musk]

I was moreso asking if there's any bs with emp spam

bc skill builds can't be run with constant emps

[echo bone]

Anyone actually got the tinkerer from TL CD?

[cyan musk]

yeah I got one on my alt

[fathom maple]

Wait Tinkerer is world loot after get It?

[echo bone]

On heroic or challenging?

[cyan musk]

challenging

wait are you saying the mission or countdown?

bc I got mine from the mission but it does enter general loot after you get it from the mission afaik

[fathom maple]

I think no

[cyan musk]

isn't that how basically every exotic aside from raid and incursion functions?

[fathom maple]

I dont think so, provocator and birdie's arent in world loot

[cyan musk]

lowkey kinna depressed I got my tinkerer on my xbox instead of my pc

[kind veldt]

so far it's bit on "my friend said they heard someone got it on countdown" kinda of deal

if it's really dropping on countdown i'm not sure

[unique bramble]

Mandella effect

[hollow hill]

Been hearing that all day. We will know soon if it turns out to be true. I got 4 from the mission and brain is super mush

[unique bramble]

I'm pretty sure it drops from countdown, trust me guys I saw it on Facebook

[dawn tendon]

hey i need help, i just reinstalled ghost recon and the divison however the game is laggy and idk why

can someone help?

[unique bramble]

Which?

[dawn tendon]

the division 2

[dawn tendon]

do you know what my problem could be?

[unique bramble]

I don't play on PC so no idea

[dawn tendon]

ok

[cyan musk]

I haven't seen it dropping on countdown for anyone I've only run like 2 or 3 though

[feral mural]

I thought master exotics are locked to master

provocator and birdie don't become world loot after you get them, or I've just never seen them after lol

[cyan musk]

just the climax mission it's guaranteed on master and 1/3/5/7% for normal through heroic difficulties

[fathom maple]

A website says that It can drop in Brooklyn, idk how much is that true

[feral mural]

Is tinkerer a unique case then?

[feral mural]

You mean catalyst. far as I know it can drop from world bosses

[cyan musk]

not afaik if it is dropping from countdown it's a bug and most likely will be patched

[cyan musk]

world bosses or the final boss of army terminal

[kind veldt]

which mask, catalyst can drop from brooklyn the mixed rumors is about the thinkerer

[feral mural]

Not the worst bug to have 😆

[feral mural]

apparently, world bosses. I've yet to see any truth to the claim

[cyan musk]

yeah but bugs that help us usually are prioritized for patches like i.e. xp farm bugs

[cyan musk]

iirc it's specific bosses open world but I don't have the dlc so I can't make an accurate claim

[fathom maple]

Idk, i search tinkerer mask to see if its Up on wiki and i found a website named dving that says "tinker" drop on brooklyn and the exotic talent description is from tinkerer not catalyst

[fair dirge]

The last mission is so buggy at the end it's ridiculous.

[cyan musk]

tinkerer does not drop in brooklyn it is supposed to be exclusive to the potomac event center climax mission

[kind veldt]

update has been out for less than a day it's bit unsure regarding drop rates on stuff for now

[feral mural]

tis annoying that the devs seem to prioritize "fixing" anything that helps us players

[cyan musk]

ikr I fell through the floor a couple times

[keen spade]

Bugs aside, the manager boss might be one of the worst bosses in Div2. Smallest play area + boss is 80% of the time behind a high cover and they removed access to the 2nd floor

[cyan musk]

honestly all that wouldn't be such an issue if the boss was anything other than a sniper

being a sniper they one shot you regardless of blue cores

[meager epoch]

Can i get the ouroboros any other way so im able to drop it to others? Like caches or countdown if i have already dropped it on my own

[feral mural]

nope

[fair dirge]

We keep having to wipe, because spawns stop.

[cyan musk]

exclusive to the incursion but it'll have a 0.1% chance to drop from stretch caches

[kind veldt]

incursion and very tiny chance next week on special caches

[meager epoch]

Aw man

[cyan musk]

I'm praying I manage to get an eagle bearer from stretch

[keen spade]

Run enough PFE + seasonal modifiers and you can just walk around the entire master mission

[feral mural]

Riot foam 😎

[cyan musk]

I have riot foam nades they seem to not care abt them

[kind veldt]

it's definetly set up as a sniper duel

[feral mural]

A duel where you die in a single shot while they take about 50. Standard fare for division

bring the Nemesis in there lmao

[fair dirge]

This mission is broken. We have a team of 4 on the final room, no issues, and stuff just stops spawning and we have to wipe. We've done this SIX times.

[meager epoch]

I was hoping i could get ouroboros from exotic caches so i could drop one for my bf 💔

[rough rover]

Unfortunately it only drops from the Incursion

[meager epoch]

Also why is my stat luck while crafting guns so ass

[feral mural]

You can drop one, you just need to do the incursion and get one

[meager epoch]

I crafted maybe 50 gr9 and not a single stat was max

[meager epoch]

I got it on my first every run and im NEVER touching that mission ever again

[echo bone]

This manhunt is so f'ing glitchy

Sitting at the neuttalizr keiko nakama and nothing happening 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

[fair dirge]

Yup. It's glitched. We've wiped now EIGHT times, because nothing is spawning.

[kind veldt]

just checking this is on mastery mode right?

[fair dirge]

Yes.

[fathom maple]

Yes

[echo bone]

Just killed her and its saying to neutralise her 🤣🤣🤣

[fair dirge]

But it did glitch out on me on lower difficulties too.

[fathom maple]

Did u kill her while she was launching her grenade?

[echo bone]

No idea just shot the b£tch

4 times now 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

[worldly halo]

so it seems if you kill Keiko in the seating area it works fine.

[echo bone]

My first time round she died up high and it was fine

[worldly halo]

if you kill her while down on floor level it glitches

[echo bone]

We never killed her 3 times now and shes glitches

[fathom maple]

I think is when she is throwing the nade, when i get the bug that is the action

[worldly halo]

yeah could very well be also

IDK if she was throwing a nade when she was on the floor level ...

[fathom maple]

Throwing the nade or changing cover

I dont think status effects have something to do with it

[unreal depot]

who tf designed sparkle

[echo bone]

Killed her while up high on here third rotation

[left pecan]

I cant even play the game thanks to the Delta 03 Error Code...

[grand swan]

Shawarma machine no way

[unreal depot]

do robots get immune to EMP after a while or what

i'm trying to kill sparkle and it sometimes gets EMP'd sometimes not, no idea how

[cyan musk]

just got booted with the error emergency server shutdown

I was running countdown

[cyan musk]

sparkle is immune to status

[fathom maple]

I do the best shawarmas in the avengers

[unreal depot]

i could stun it for ages at the start with emp sticky tho, and then scorpio def makes it stop moving for a while

[cyan musk]

it's supposed to be immune they probably broke the fight (again)

[kind veldt]

i think after the fight got released they adjusted some of named and elites hazard protection scalling to being hit multiple times by the same status effect

[unreal depot]

That fight is just ridiculous

[kind veldt]

i dont remember if you are doing them in order or not

you are going to enjoy recruiter

[unreal depot]

i've been on this dog for 1h

[kind veldt]

this is one of the few fights i switched from fun build to regular build

also kelso manhunt but mostly because i was with SMG and shotguns that didnt mix well with the start

[unreal depot]

i did it but god damn

and the fact that the devs thought this was too easy so they put striker drones in the fight too

[hollow hill]

yall had troubles with that mastery mission? its not too hard but not that easy. all my mechanics worked just fine

[tacit patrol]

anyone know why the final mission is glitching on mastery? kill the boss but it doesnt complete

[unreal depot]

so you're saying i shouldnt do the next missions on heroic if i wanna keep my sanity?

[bright basin]

There is anyone that hasn't done invaden mission? My kinda gitched. When I did all 3 of them for the last scout for somereason it said I only did 1, so if there is anyone that didn't do atleast 2 of them, can I join you on the missions?

[kind veldt]

had the bug at the end of mission not counting as finished after killing the boss, had to wipe with grenades but second time it worked fine

no real extra super difficulty spike

[echo bone]

Jesus fix this crap man in masters and had to reset twice already

[hollow hill]

I only encountered it once out of my dozen or so clears

[echo bone]

Had a level 8 thousand that couldn't figure out how to reset and ended up leaving after 10 minutes trying 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

[cold narwhal]

Whats the 3rd invaded this week I cant find it lol

[hollow hill]

We call those players "casuals" who only have playtime and not actual knowledge

[echo bone]

Camp white oak

[cold narwhal]

Oy vey

[hollow hill]

Slap it on hard and run an IA Harvest HH build. Lightning quick clears

[cold narwhal]

wonder why mine is showing as complete

[cold narwhal]

Imagine doing anything on hard

[echo bone]

5 times now on masters

Damaged her so she smokes uptop first time then doesn't come back and no wave happens

[hollow hill]

i wasnt about to spend the next 2 hours doing everything on heroic

shd 16k. this game takes enough of my time 💀

[drifting shale]

What are best talents for using the tinkerer mask?

[hollow hill]

Striker, Nego - Killer/Streamlined, Killer/Optimist, Killer/Strained
Ongoing - Sadist/Pressure Point, Sadist/Killer

[harsh jewel]

Dont kill the war hounds kill her first

[hollow hill]

can pair killer with Preservation for survivability and if you need more sustained damage and burst, go fast hands

[harsh jewel]

Kill her first and leave the war hounds last

dont kill the war hound till she pops smoke

[dreamy patrol]

They lying on this manhunt difficulty 😅

Heroic feels like legendary

[drifting shale]

I found that Master Difficulty wasn't so bad

[dreamy patrol]

Well i was attempting to run it solo

[signal kernel]

I have to do all 3 scout missions to unlock final mission?

[drifting shale]

Solo, yeah, that's terrible but in a group it's mostly ok

[dreamy patrol]

I had to give up just couldn't beat the boss

[feral mural]

That's a lot of the players who don't go on the discords and stuff

[signal kernel]

Can’t you wipe at boss and invite people?

[feral mural]

my dad is kinda one of them. I help make his builds

[dreamy patrol]

No, for some reason the call for help option was grayed out

[feral mural]

Boss fight

Matchmaking is disabled, including backup calls

[dreamy patrol]

Yeah i figured

Guess its not so bad.. i know i can get there by myself at least

[echo bone]

i invited someone when she glitches out

[raw minnow]

Twice in a row we've glitched. Is the whole session done or does it eventually work?

[dreamy patrol]

I need to find a decent high rpm ar to replace my kingbreaker

[harsh jewel]

Kill her first and leave the war hounds last
[4:57 PM]
dont kill the war hound till she pops smoke

[echo bone]

Got to keep trying, it glitches for us 4 times on heroic eventually got it 5th try. Then jsut there on masters glitches everytime. We ended yo just focusing her while other npcs were still alive

[harsh jewel]

Kill her first and leave the war hounds last
[4:57 PM]
dont kill the war hound till she pops smoke

[round oar]

I got that bug again where you climb up onto something and your character freezes in place, the rest of the game goes on as normal but you can't access inventory, map, any sort of info screen

Turns out /quit in the chat worked to close the game

Weird bug and it doesn't seem to happen often since I could barely find info on it

[small spear]

i've run into it a few times. it only happens in a few spots

[echo bone]

I bought the dlc so have the level 30 and 40 pass thing. When do i get it on a new character? Really can't be bothered running the campaign

[cyan musk]

having an issue with enemies in the first encounter of master mode just running off into the distance

like as soon as I shoot them they just book it out of the mission area to the point if I followed them the mission would be abandoned

[kind veldt]

thats a new one

[cyan musk]

I didn't think to take a video but I decided to follow a sniper and they ran all the way to sleeping giant before they despawned

[hushed finch]

Looking for a causal clan to do missions with

[undone timber]

You get the option to boost when making a character

Otherwise you can boost after reaching the white house

[forest acorn]

I gotta say this, it costing 225 protective fabric to craft a Chest weave bundle is insane. 😭

[cyan musk]

will I still be able to run the master mode of this mission after the season ends

[feral mural]

Yup

[kind veldt]

yeah

[pliant spoke]

Anyone else just get booted like 5x in a row

[lunar hare]

bru no one told me we had golden bullet and 3xXP ongoing 😖

[languid bay]

Where’s the drop percentages for the new exotic

[prisma remnant]

Can someone explain golden bullet to me this is my first time participating in the event

[pliant spoke]

I saw somewhere you only have to have scout 8, how do you activate the main one to go for the tinker?

[feral mural]

Kill someone who's crafting a golden bullet (symbol above their head, gold laser if they complete it) and you'll get the golden bullet, basically a massive RPM, weapon handling and damage buff that refreshes on killing enemies

[full zinc]

also very good when running demo class, golden bullet refills the spec grenade launcher

[undone timber]

Guaranteed on master

[languid bay]

I said DROP PERCENTAGES

As in the percentages for the drop on the other difficulties

[kind veldt]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

people dont know

[undone timber]

Well if we're talking percentage it's 100 percent on master

[azure lintel]

So are both talents active only while using the primary gun with the Tinkerer or while using the secondary one also? And does the mask work with Lexi?

[undone timber]

Chances go down as the difficulty normal being lowest

[undone timber]

• primary only
• No

[azure lintel]

Ok thank you.

[pure saffron]

That silly Gold Skull backpack trophy still eludes me...

[dry gate]

I think people already tested this morning.. it's not working.. they were putting preservation to see if it heals you on the second Lexi.. and it wasn't procc-ing tinkerer.. they seems to have changed it for Lexi from PTS.

if your Tinkerer icon is orange it means it's working, if it's red it's not.

Lexington did work in PTS with Tinkerer.. doesn't really work with now with this release. It's all named items. From everyone I watched test it, none worked.

"First Lexi has Optimist and second Lexi has Streamline. " - that's why you are seeing optimist running.. Tinkerer "funnels" secondary talent into the primary weapon in addition to your primary talent.. so in your case Optimist is expected to always work, but your streamline is not triggering.

[azure lintel]

I just changed Streamline to Preservation to see and you’re right it doesn’t work.

[thick yarrow]

just got back into this game and i think i'll need to do either do power plant or summit till i have striker gear, as i just used the character boost to level 40

[languid bay]

Wait wtf you can use lexington???? They said no named items

[azure lintel]

No I’ll delete that message.

[dry gate]

nah, doesn't work. They changed it from PTS.. In PTS you could use it. It would have been nice especially with Lexi being in Stretch Goals but they changed it.

[thick yarrow]

is countdown even worth it?

[dry gate]

for farming gear you need yeah.. just run it on challenging.. there are really zero reasons to do it on heroic.

[thick yarrow]

okay good i'll have to farm striker gear for now as i do have a build in mind but it does require me to grab coyote's mask but i'll have to do it on hard for a few runs as i used the character boost to 40 so i don't have good gear at the start

[kind veldt]

just do it on challenging with matchmaking

[dry gate]

nah.. don't waste time running it on hard.. you'll be fine.. just follow the group and stay a bit behind and don't push the enemies.. just be around them.. they'll clear everything

[kind veldt]

people will carry you no problem

just stay with the big group

[potent ferry]

did servers just go down?

[languid bay]

CD mad nice for material farming

Equipment weave farming mmmmmmmmmm

[kind veldt]

#lfg-pc instead

[narrow pagoda]

Game just crashed lost all my progress and loot near the end of a mission

[fallow lily]

Played the manhunt on challenging for my first run and got a tinkerer lmao

[kind veldt]

you shouldnt lose any loot you pick up

[fluid cedar]

Yo anyone wanna help a newbie out?

[thick yarrow]

if i set the target loot to mask, does that give me a slightly higher chance at getting coyote's mask?

[kind veldt]

if you are looking for people the might wanna try #lfg-xbox , for general questions about the game either here or #ask is fine

[kind veldt]

yeah

[fluid cedar]

Thanks

[thick yarrow]

does coyote's mask drop naturally or do i need to keep doing the mission that has coyote in it?

[lunar hare]

general loot pool

[kind veldt]

it can technically drop anywhere, place with mask as targetted loot has more chance

the mission with coyote boss has a flat chance from her and only her, so it's kinda slow

[thick yarrow]

yeah since im gonna be doing summit mainly 3 floors for a objective

[kind veldt]

since you are doing the whole mission just for that

you can also get from the exotic caches

priority objectives can also give random exotics

[thick yarrow]

and i forgot to enable golden bullet unless it can't be active during summit

[unreal depot]

It can

[sour void]

So, I got the Tinkerer mask... Lots of meh, to be honest.

What does AlphaBridge Abridged have against Named Weapons?

[dusk hull]

The current onus on weapon proficiency is CRAZY WORK

[stiff crow]

I have a slightly silly question. At the MASTER level, is the chance of a mask drop equal to 100%? so you can go there 3 times and get 3 masks?

[lunar hare]

Only once AFAIK.

[vale ledge]

Uh.. Whenever I seem to oipen the map myh game goes to menu..

[thin oasis]

Best place to get it is countdown or Summit in general.

If JTC has targeted masks then it's better, but thats a gamble.

[proud solstice]

The new mask

[hybrid ore]

@proud solstice Climax Mission at Potomac Event Centre only, it's guaranteed on the Master difficulty, but you have a chance on any lower ones.

[proud solstice]

Thank you @hybrid ore

How do I get it on mastery

It’s not letting me …as well my boy said pin cro power

@hybrid ore

[wanton jolt]

It’s says that you need complete on other difficulties to run on master

[lunar hare]

The game has detailed texts/explanations so you can read it not ignore it

[hybrid ore]

I'm still trying to work out what "pin cro power" is.

I'm going with "ancient aliens that all crows descended from".

[proud solstice]

Copy @hybrid ore

[azure lintel]

so while i was at work i was reading people saying that the mission could bug (final manhunt mission)

what do i do and what do i NOT do to avoid bugging it

[wanton jolt]

For me i killed 3x last boss on this mission i mean i repeat at checkpoint and mission ends with rewards

[eager talon]

Half the time I login my stash/inventory is missing like 99% of the items and I need to relauch the game to fix it. Is this an internet issue to the game or just a game issue?

[hybrid ore]

@eager talon Visual server issue, it's being looked at.

[eager talon]

How long has this been going on? I went on a 3year haitus and just got back last Friday.

[hybrid ore]

It's not hitting every player, which is probably what's making it so tricky to diagnose, would be my guess.
Been around a while now, but a relog does fix it, also fast travelling to another map, IIRC.

I think a Season or so.

[eager talon]

Oh, I didnt try fast traveling. I might do that instead.

[hybrid ore]

Try NYC and back, not just "anywhere".

Although a relog might be faster, depending on your country's internet.

[eager talon]

Definitely going to NYC will be faster, when this visual glitch happens, the anti-cheat screen will stay up between 5-7mins "waiting for game". If I go to NYC and back to DC, thats less than 30 seconds.

[hybrid ore]

Exact opposite for me, but it's good to have options.

[graceful lagoon]

Tinkerer looks like very buggy LOLOL

[crimson osprey]

Really? I ignore texts and explanations and I end out fine.

[coral rock]

Because as many other companies they also DO NOT doing their job.
For years now as you can see probably or if you're a new one, let to be welcomed in the game of incompetency by all the creators.

[delicate pebble]

The decoys bug the mission, from my understanding. They keep spawning even after destroyed. Had to wipe 3 times on master because of the bugs then got a delta mid-boss fight. I don't think I'm ever doing that again. An exotic is NOT worth the stress!

[azure lintel]

how do you kill the boss at the end of the manhunt? it says "neutralize" even tho we just killed her

[fathom maple]

Bug, u need wipe and repeat till It ends normally

[lunar hare]

There are exceptions

[hybrid ore]

Div2 is fairly heavy on the maths, just going by descriptions can really mess up a build.

[brave shell]

Is there a summit lfg here

[hybrid ore]

@brave shell #lfg-pc, enjoy!

[brave shell]

thank you

[hybrid ore]

You can also use it for Countdown, PvP.

[prime atlas]

What kind of skins work for Lexington? M4s or LVOA-C?
I’m mostly interested in Corporate ( umbrella event skin) for m4.
Can it be put on Lexington?

[undone timber]

It used to be bugged to where you could apply it to Lexi but was patched

The only skins I'm aware of for it are the veteran rewards

[copper surge]

Hm, does increasing mission difficulty also increase the chance for targetted loot to drop? Im going after Striker's Battlegear right now and its available for a mission

[full venture]

is the server kinda laggy ? I empty the whole mag and no damage regist

[south topaz]

target loot in countdown is 10x better than that

[tender wave]

No, increasing difficulty increases xp and the average rolls on gear. Directives increase target loot chance and xp.

[copper surge]

thank you

[spare cove]

Usually, I don't buy bundles of one piece uniforms.

But for Nakama's bundle, I might make an exception

[brisk copper]

Have just come on after Maint and Ubisoft D/L and the Manhunt 12 is not active. Can anyone help.

[unreal perch]

Directive increase tl in mission? Was it only in summit?

[tender wave]

Not only summit (maybe when summit first launched but not any more)

[tender wave]

Go to manhunt 11 and tap c

[brisk copper]

Thankyou I will try that.

[quasi acorn]

Can I get someone to join my game so I can fast travel away. The climax mission glitched and its not even Master difficulty

[brisk copper]

Thankyou Kettle, that worked.

[slow yarrow]

Hey! On week 8 manhunt i am stuck on objective 3 with the bounty. I cannot spawn the bounty because it says "Missing curator"

[undone timber]

It's a side mission

[unreal yew]

Anyone doing master for tinkering mask so send me invite please

[slow yarrow]

but its on bounties tab i can see it and when i activate bounty it says "missing curator"

[flint shore]

So after museum they just make every endboss a sniper boss 🙄 cant stick out your head lazy mechanic i got rsi from holding the shoot button gaziljon npc's 🤪 they should have less npc's but harder mechanics to figure out. This is just awfully endless shoot that npc 🤕

[unreal perch]

Oh didn't know it do it too in mission

[blazing citrus]

Do a raid then 🤔

[slow yarrow]

oh i see what you mean but i cannot see this side mission. Its not on my map

[flint shore]

I am talking about the endless npc's climax missiona we have

[blazing citrus]

I think an onslaught of dawgs or heavies would be cool

But tbh something to do is better than nothing to do

[flint shore]

Indeed

[tender wave]

Just West of Castle settlement, in the underground parking area, it'll show up when you get close

It's pretty much underneath Castle on the west side

[slow yarrow]

yes i had to find the npc and take it manual i found it thanks!

[worldly halo]

RIP servers?

[eager talon]

It seems so, press space to start its back

[dreamy patrol]

Legit question not complaining: Has the Xbox playerbase died off or something. Granted im new in this server but seems to me 99% of anything going on ever in here is either psn or pc

[stark heron]

Some people are multi platform

Its just that the Xbox role is lower on the role list than PC

[dreamy patrol]

Who would actually want to spend the time to build multiple accounts!? Respect

[rough bluff]

If you are referring to the LFG channels: Xbox has its own group search function. It is not absolutely necessary to search for groups outside of Xbox. This may be the reason why there are relatively few Xbox requests.

[signal kernel]

Refactor turdro and patience made the master mission easy peasy. Lots of cover in this mission too so patience is most important virtue

[violet canyon]

strikers and st elmos made it pretty easy for me, its not a hard mission

[graceful blaze]

we have fi ished the climax mission on ps and its glitched no masks wtf

[violet canyon]

use a grenade to kill yourselves and reset the boss

unless you didnt do it on master difficulty, thats the only way to get a guaranteed drop

[azure lintel]

U mean on master difficulty?

[astral jacinth]

Her sniper does a lot of damage even with max pfe in heroic

[quasi night]

I've seen already a lot of discussion regarding the new manager mission, does anyone know for sure how not to get the bugs?

[astral jacinth]

Yeah

[slate fractal]

Armor regen with damage to elite cores for master mission and your set

Our team beat it super fast first try.

[violet canyon]

No, its just a bug not related to exotic weapons or status effects like some people try to claim. The mission bugged out on me 7 times yesterday, I took a break came back later at night and got it to complete on the first try. We all ran exotics with status effects

[karmic sparrow]

Stupid question incoming; do you need the brooklyn dlc to be able to get this tinkerer mask thingy?

Yay, thanks

[warped relic]

Is the Lexington drop available now?

[azure lintel]

No next week on 19th

[unique bramble]

She is using headhunter with determined.

[toxic lily]

i hate.... the HOUND

[unique bramble]

Chimera Violet and Sparkle: First time?

[toxic lily]

Chimera and the rest of the hounds are fine but this

900 rounds 200 shotgun shells to finish it lol

[remote pecan]

Sometimes it just feels like they hate their players 😄

[worldly halo]

ya'll noticed in Summit some of the planted trees just sway lol

[lament trout]

Where can I post a picture of something I have a question about?

[worldly halo]

looked for maybe AC blowing but couldn't see anything ... spooky! lol

[pliant spoke]

If Raybp, Opus Zombie, or Sp21ee44dy are in here....thanks homies. Been trying to get that done for hours now. Finally got the freaking mask

[thin oasis]

Only way I've found to clear it reliably is without using any status effects

[lament trout]

?

[remote pecan]

not in here obviously

[tender wave]

In #ask-td2-community

[south topaz]

killing the boss slowly works for me

[remote pecan]

could have something to do with overdamage, but I can't consistenly bug it or not bug it at all

[tender wave]

The number of different theories and refutations I've seen floating around makes me suspect it's pure rng

(or something complex enough that it might as well be rng)

[warped relic]

What is the best way to find enemy officers in downtown east?

[remote pecan]

Too many factors. I guess she can even hurt herself. Sometimes she throws a grenade while she is staggered and blows it up right on her feet. The self-inflicted damage and status effects cause her to disappear.

[kind veldt]

i dont think it's status effect because i used iron lung

[tender wave]

Bounties, lvl 4 control points

[feral mural]

bounties.

[astral jacinth]

Bounty

[tender wave]

If you don't have any bounties then a public execution or hostage rescue in the same area will get you one

As will finding the snitch

[remote pecan]

tbh doesn't really mean anything, it's just one of many, could be related to disrupt or shock

[astral jacinth]

I’ve found that if you don’t attack the manhunt boss before wiping out the first wave of enemies, you’ll work around the bug

[warped relic]

Where do I go to see how the golden gun event works?

[astral jacinth]

You need to turn it on in the event menu, but you’ll have to give up global modifiers

[warped relic]

I have it on. Just don't know how the event works

[astral jacinth]

Oh, just kill enemies that glow gold before they use the bullet

You’ll then get the gold bullet

Enjoy the best global event

[lament trout]

Thx

[warped relic]

Do I do anything with the gold bullet or it do anything for me?

[tender wave]

If you go back to the events timeline, as well as the options to toggle it on, check the challenges etc there should be a 'show details' option that explains it a bit more

[astral jacinth]

Shoot enemies while you have the buff. Kill enemies before your buff runs out to sustain the buff!

You get a big damage increase

[tender wave]

It gives you big boosts to rate of fire, damage, handling, and it refreshes duration and refills your mag whenever you kill someone with it

[astral jacinth]

Yes all of it increases your dps

Turns hard content trivial in most circumstances but be careful, enemies can hit hard if they shoot you with it too

[toxic lily]

i expect a cutscene

it gave me a look of that cat and the manager

[azure lintel]

[spare cove]

The cat is cute

[blazing citrus]

Does this stream have drops

[tender wave]

Nope, nothing's been mentioned

[spare cove]

No. It's just a preview of next season's PTS

[blazing citrus]

Ok. Just askin for a frend

[kind veldt]

oh

i was thinking it was going to be later

they usually are just when i'm busy cooking

[blazing citrus]

'Tis now

[hybrid ore]

MSV are aware of the bug with the climax mission, MSV are still working on the potential solutions
fixing it is a top priority

[tulip birch]

can anyone help with bug neutralize Keiko in master difficulty, i killed her but game still says neutralize

[frozen relic]

its a bug

[hybrid ore]

Literally read the comment above yours, i mean really.

Stretch Goals were more popular than expected, likely to return in the future again

[tulip birch]

oh sorry i didnt saw that its a bug my bad

[frozen relic]

wipe and try again until whatever u do works or try to find a workaround

[spare cove]

Whatever you do, focus on the ads first. They need to be eliminated

[frozen relic]

it will stay godrolled

[hybrid ore]

Lexington dropping during the Stretch Goals will be godrolled

[frozen relic]

time to get like 3 lol

[hybrid ore]

@mint adder English on the main server, thanks.

[blazing citrus]

Are they actually revealing anything in todays stream bc ppl have said its previewing of the pts but theyre also saying its a q and a stream 🤔

[hybrid ore]

stretch goals are not going to be paid from this day onwards, MSV don't like how it turned out

[blazing citrus]

That on the trello board?

[spare cove]

Yeah, they just revealed that Lexington drops in the Stretch event will be god-rolled

[hybrid ore]

Aces Outfit will be available until the 2nd of September for Textiles

[spare cove]

She's recapping from the livestream

[hybrid ore]

She.

[blazing citrus]

The livestream is ongoing 🤔

[hybrid ore]

I'm a fast typer.

[frozen relic]

yeah

[spare cove]

Lord, for the love of god, calm down.

[azure lintel]

[hybrid ore]

no early reveals for gameccom

[blazing citrus]

?

Im watching the livestream rn and theyre just playing the game. Idk if im on the right one 🥲

[hybrid ore]

next season is going to be a change-up to the season system, "territory control" focus. compared to american football.```

@blazing citrus #division-tweets

[frozen relic]

heres a link to it https://www.twitch.tv/thedivisiongame

[blazing citrus]

:/

[kind veldt]

wrong one probably, should be this one

[hybrid ore]

new permanent feature added with new season, "retaliation"

LZ focus

PTS dropping tomorrow, PC only

[blazing citrus]

HUH?!?! the one im on is just them playing Bfb

[spare cove]

I think you're watching a Division streamer

[blazing citrus]

No its TheDivisionGame

[remote pecan]

I think one post and keep it updated would be fine, too.

[hybrid ore]

every time you fight a faction in the open world, you fill a "disruption meter". When gague is full, enemies will attack a specific area. If you lose, the faction will invade a "named zone", which tie into modifiers

@trim fog You can just not read it, so no.

[azure lintel]

Pve ppl are super toxic today wth 😂

[frozen relic]

so make faction angy for rewards BET :3

[spare cove]

Anything that helps me play open world PvE more often is fine by me

[hybrid ore]

If you save a named zone, you get higher rewards than if you have to take it back

by doing relatiation, it gives you "basically every exotic item ingame"

@trim fog Drop the attitude, it's getting really old.

[runic kernel]

I dont think they saw that post lol

[hybrid ore]

after exotics are earned, you get "new resources"

[solemn seal]

I am having a problem with the last manhunt. The bounty is not showing up for me

[spare cove]

The bounty is on Federal Triangle

[solemn seal]

its not in my list

[hybrid ore]

Retaliation is for all 3 LZ maps, not just DC

[frozen relic]

you have to do the side mission national archives first to do it and the first and 2nd part of scout 12

[solar kayak]

FWIW I can't be bothered to load up and watch a stream at the moment so I appreciate the live text updates

[solemn seal]

how do i find this

[frozen relic]

i do too as im watching it because im dumb and might miss smth

[hybrid ore]

I don't always have time to do this, but I will try my best!

[remote pecan]

@trim fog btw. what's wrong with my suggestion?

[hybrid ore]

modifiers with the new season are focused around "relatiation"

[spare cove]

An NPC in the Theater Settlement will give you the side-mission

[hybrid ore]

"every named zone that you control, you get buffs with your modifiers"

[spare cove]

Okay, I'm gonna love next season.

I always wanted more reasons to play around the open world, besides admiring the scenery.

[remote pecan]

yea tbh it's not about the buffs, more like you don't have to swap out mods all the time to see, if you're over the cap
and it wouldn't really clutter it, because it fits into the already existing UI, but clears up more of the confusing stuff, especially for newer players

[hybrid ore]

Named Zones are considered contested, its only considered "lost" when one single faction controls the entire zone

Retaliation is a permanent feature, but the modifiers affecting it are just for the next season, potentially

[spare cove]

I hate Twitch chat

[hybrid ore]

"playing active modifiers is almost like playing as a member of the faction"

one active modifier is "unlimited signature weapon ammo and damage buffs"

another is: hipfire only, higher damage

[frozen relic]

and no armor as well with a health buff

but these are seeming fun so far tbh

[solemn seal]

i looked all over the theather no npc for side mission

[fervent cobalt]

This all sounds great to be honest

[hybrid ore]

Modifiers are based on "archetypes" not just for factions, or you can play universal and be a jack of all trades.

[fervent cobalt]

Unlimited special ammo... maybe time to dust off the ToTS stuff

[frozen relic]

assuming its the same one from od stepping stone seems pretty nice

[blazing citrus]

55s duration at level 5 and 50s cooldown 🤔

[fervent cobalt]

Hmm gotcha

[hybrid ore]

e.g. eliminate hostils with it equipped, OR do relation against that specific faction

[fervent cobalt]

Still, excited for this retaliation thing

[hybrid ore]

modifier does not need to be equipped to rank it up, its just faster

[frozen relic]

yeah will make the game will seem more alive tbh

[blazing citrus]

Say cheese is prob gonna be the goto for strikers

[hybrid ore]

1 is mostly focused around movement speed and fire-rate```

another is AoE based

[fervent cobalt]

Oh for sure, been wishing for more pve world based stuff for a while. Loved bfb's cp changes

[hybrid ore]

retaliation will be a new tab, on the map menu

[solar kayak]

what changes? you mean the turrets you have to disable?

[frozen relic]

and has progress to them showing how close you are to starting a retaliation event

[loud basalt]

I'm getting hyped up lol. Let's gooooo! love this game

[frozen relic]

new gearset named tipping scales no clue what it does saw for a second on targeted loot

[spare cove]

Yes. And the shock traps that Riker control points has in Brooklyn

[hybrid ore]

all timers are subject to change, currently at 40 hours

[spare cove]

Now I wanna know who's the Manhunt target.

[hybrid ore]

PTS discord feedback channel incoming

PTS only has 1 phase, 1 day longer than normal

[fervent cobalt]

Yeah, wasn't much but added a little something

[hybrid ore]

Legendary open world still not incoming, "stop asking"

[blazing citrus]

🥲

Ye i saw it for a split second but soon realized they accidentally selected tidal basin

[hybrid ore]

known PTS bug with the retaliation timer

[fervent cobalt]

😢 i still want a pet warhound at least lol

[ebon steeple]

automatic exotic pistol omg

[frozen relic]

FULL AUTO PISTOL

[ebon steeple]

give it oreo fire rate rn, pocket oreo

climax weapon???

[hybrid ore]

exotic automatic pistol, "tempest". Activates on shield break, item from the climax mission

"first automatic weapon you can use with the big shield"Never change, Yannick.

[fervent cobalt]

Oh shit we getting the glock

[hybrid ore]

yannick confirmed to use the CP turrets

full PTS patch notes going live after the stream

[spare cove]

Thank god next season's climax mission exotic is the pistol.

The climax mission exotics for Y6S2/Y6S3 leave a lot to be desired

[frozen relic]

two leaders at one control point defense

[fluid meadow]

yikes

[hybrid ore]

exotic gloves: "overdogs", incrases damage based on heirachy of enemies".

[fluid meadow]

6 months before we can use it?

[ebon steeple]

going from birdie backpack to tinkerer mask was a jump in quality

[hybrid ore]

mmr "shroud", does more damage based on enemy heirachy.

[spare cove]

2 months and a half.

[blazing citrus]

I just want an mmr that shoots through armor 🥲

[remote pecan]

mosin and 93r

[hybrid ore]

yannick is annoyed at enemies hiding behind shields, confirmed relatable

[frozen relic]

the retailtion control points are heavily tuned up with more leaders and stuff than normal yannick has seen 3 at one during a defense

[ebon steeple]

those exotics come off as high end talents, kinda disappointing

[kind veldt]

shield builds rise up

[fluid meadow]

regardless of time putting it behind a timegate is simply dumb.
burns all hype away

[hybrid ore]

heirachy system of enemies seems to be a focus going forward

[spare cove]

They can be patient

[hybrid ore]

e.g. "named enemies are higher up"

[spare cove]

What you want exotic talents to be?

[kind veldt]

well if anything wall of texts havent been good in the past TP/sanctum are not great despite giant complex talents

[blazing citrus]

Sorta it relies on your shield being broken 🥲

[kind veldt]

LMG brand or gear set?

[hybrid ore]

tipping scales gearset: 4pc, sounds like a crit focused strikers```

[spare cove]

Yeah, sometimes exotic talents with walls of text aren't always great

[remote pecan]

another mmr set ...

[hybrid ore]

skill efficiency is 2pc on that one, its kinda odd, but i can see it working for Decoy.

[spare cove]

As long as Urban Lookout drops with weapon damage as core stat, I'm fine with it.

[hybrid ore]

2 named weapons with the same talent, weak point focus damage.

With the PTS, you can get everything new straight away to test it out, does not transfer to main game

[dusk trench]

Soft Spot: +19/24% damage for 15s after destroying a weak point

[ebon steeple]

pistols gonna fit well on tinkerer builds since u cant use exotic primaries

[hybrid ore]

Full details are dropping tomorrow, im just sending over soundbites.

[dusk trench]

yep yep, might as well post the talent for people to see

[hybrid ore]

loadout slots: not planned right now, would love to

[brazen elm]

praying new gearset is as good as strikers

[spare cove]

I thought the patch notes for the PTS are dropping after the stream?

[placid badger]

yo, anyone having issues with the climax mission boss?

[remote pecan]

yea but why even wear the mask then

[blazing citrus]

Shotgun build? 🤔

[hybrid ore]

may not fast travel within retaliation zone, "that would be cheating"

[spare cove]

Alas, poor yarrick

[frozen relic]

theres a killsquad during a retaliation that may attack you they killed yannick

[blazing citrus]

Yannick dies on challenging 🥲

[hybrid ore]

one modifier is called "say cheese"

[frozen relic]

the hyena one had a nader controller and engie

[dusk trench]

Also having a table in the modifier description is huge

[blazing citrus]

98 xp for 1 control point on challenging. Big rewards

[spare cove]

Are you referring to the active modifiers? Cuz, yeah that's cool

[hybrid ore]

retaliation can spawn "kill squads", will hunt you down, are all named tier enemies

[ebon steeple]

oreo go burrr on kill squad

[spare cove]

Will be nice to have Hunters as kill squads.

[hybrid ore]

hunting them down is time spent, but they drop exotic blueprints for specific factions

[frozen relic]

kill the kill squad :3c

[dusk trench]

also leveling up active modifiers is interesting

[hybrid ore]

kill squads can give up, but can attack you near a CP if you fight near one

[spare cove]

Broken SHD watches?

[frozen relic]

can also spawn during a attack on one like what happened to yannick

[hybrid ore]

new mechanic: broken SHD watches

[ebon steeple]

ope timers up streams over

[frozen relic]

"sounds like we have a fire alarm people"

[hybrid ore]

fire alarm is working at MSV

[fluid meadow]

cooked so bad they burned the HQ

[hybrid ore]

stream sound is working, studio sound is not.

[frozen relic]

stream ended

[hybrid ore]

stream over due to evacuation, stay safe!

[ebon steeple]

kelso pulled the fire alarm

[remote pecan]

stayed in way too long

[azure lintel]

[fluid meadow]

im dead

[tired field]

What in the hell did I just witness

[azure lintel]

U always ded

[spare cove]

Fire alarm

[blazing citrus]

Well then.... ngl the new exotics dont seem all that interesting imho

[slow smelt]

The Cleaners are coming for them! Hope they brought Hazard Protection...

[spare cove]

Then try it out on the PTS.

[frozen relic]

cleaners attacked the hq

[timid minnow]

Patch notes ?

[sinful kelp]

hopefully its a false alarm

[azure lintel]

Keener and his agents

[stark heron]

The cleaners didn't like those seasonal modifiers huh

[blazing citrus]

With the internet where im staying itd only just download by the time it ends

[sinful kelp]

the most interesting one is full auto pistol and only because its fullauto without needing crusader

[tired field]

Either way they ended the stream so if it was false, they succeeded

[thick lantern]

One of the potatoes in the server room burned down xD

[stark heron]

Probably the closest we'll get to D3-FNC returning

[blazing citrus]

Eh. A shield exotic relying on it breaking and leaving you disoriented dont sound too good

[sinful kelp]

i mean at least they know to not immediately introduce a new exotic that forces you to stop using Tinkerer
the rest of the exotics though...

[sinful kelp]

yeah exactly so the most interesting part of that is the fact that its fullauto pistol

[fathom maple]

We r getting a exotic marksman, pistol and what more?

[sinful kelp]

i'll still get it though

[frozen relic]

gloves

[blazing citrus]

If they had a part where "while broken kills heal x amount of shield health"

[fathom maple]

The new perfect talent is nuts

[fluid meadow]

at least they could drop the pts info on trello

[blazing citrus]

Exotic mmr, pistol, gloves
1 gearset
1 brandset
2 named weapons (?)
Pretty stronk active modifiers

[iron gust]

Too bad the stream ended the QA part is always an important part

[spare cove]

You only get disoriented for a few seconds.

[iron gust]

But a fire alarm is a fire alarm

[blazing citrus]

They dont seem to have even finished the showcase 😥

[fluid meadow]

i think that was a dexter move

[remote pecan]

enough to get you killed

[frozen relic]

should also cancel that part tbh

[kind veldt]

new weapon talent is called achilles, destroying weakpoints give 19% weapon damage for 15s, perfect is 24% i think

[fathom maple]

5 bucks that they nerf the perfect talent of that 2 named weapons like they did with streamline

[timid minnow]

soft spot

[sinful kelp]

yeah youre only disoriented for a few seconds when your shield breaks under enemy fire

[blazing citrus]

• full auto
• +25% damage on shield break
• no disorient
• heal x amount of shield health per kill while broken

Even if its just like 5% heal

[spare cove]

Feel free to share your complaints on the PTS

[fluid meadow]

to your own shields?
the HP amount of shields is ridiculous let alone the bulwark

[blazing citrus]

If you mean shield break yes

[spare cove]

That's irrelevant when the enemies can break the shield easily in a fwe secconds.

[remote pecan]

critique

[spare cove]

tantrums

[blazing citrus]

:/

[kind veldt]

guess i mixed up iwht the named weapons or something

[blazing citrus]

Reasonable thought and opinions =/= tantrums

[fluid meadow]

hold on so does it heal your shield or your armor?
you said while broken so im assuming itll heal your armor based on shield health?

[blazing citrus]

Anyway. John wick builds incoming. I can see the thumbnails now

[spare cove]

Fine

[sinful kelp]

AI generated johnwick with white text red arrow grey sky background

[blazing citrus]

No the last 2 are what i was wishing for.

Its only is full auto and +25% damage on shield break

[violet canyon]

how do you complete an invaded mission for the golden bullet event if you dont have any invaded missions left?

[spare cove]

Replay the invaded mission

[blazing citrus]

You can change them to invaded iirc. In the replay difficulty selector

Should mention summin at the bottom

[violet canyon]

now I dont even remember which ones are invaded this week lol

[frozen relic]

camp white oak Jefferson trade center and American history museum

[blazing citrus]

That ^

[violet canyon]

awesome ty!

[ebon steeple]

streams back

[flint shore]

Are the patchnotes out?

[ebon steeple]

after stream

[sinful kelp]

oh shit thanks

[vital cave]

Hey the tinkerer mask can drop in heroic difficulty too right? For master is guaranteed reward

[hybrid ore]

okay streams back lol

[ebon steeple]

yeah i got the mask my first heroic run, its just a very rare drop

[vital cave]

Alright thanks

[frozen relic]

i need to hear the theory crafting behind yannicks build

[sinful kelp]

damn it really is just dmg amp on shieldbreak 😭

[ebon steeple]

i wonder if the pistol talent procs if my shield breaks while using a primary and then swap to the pistol

[hybrid ore]

Tempest: 25% amp damage after shield break. That is wow.

[blazing citrus]

Yannick caught by the ninjabike noob trap

[spare cove]

Okay, the Shroud exotic looks beautiful.

[hybrid ore]

Shroud design has a blanket.

[frozen relic]

with useless chest talent with his build no way of bonus armor

[hybrid ore]

brb, farming one out.

[spare cove]

I call it camofluage in my case 😛

[hybrid ore]

mmr with a snuggie. You heard it here, folks!

urban lookout: accuracy, skill efficiency, mmr damage

[frozen relic]

overdogs are skeleton gloves three tiers of hostiles lower tier higher damage

[spare cove]

Tipping Scales feels like Strikers, but for LMGs.

[blazing citrus]

I can see urban lookout meshing with mantis well

[sinful kelp]

i see. 100% chd for LMGs on max stacks

[spare cove]

I might like that gear set.

[hybrid ore]

supressed enemies whilst using tipping scales does not drop stacks

[blazing citrus]

"If an enemy is suppressed" 🤔

[sinful kelp]

and im guessing having a suppressed enemy pauses the timer

[fluid meadow]

bruh

[sinful kelp]

so 200% chd for LMGs
alright im binning my backfire again :-)

[frozen relic]

tipping scales 2 piece 30% mag 3 piece 30% lmg damage shooting gain stacks that give .5 handling and 2% chd (4% with the bag) lose 6 per second max of 50 (75 with the chest)

[blazing citrus]

Chest stacks from 50 to 75
Back pack 2 to 4%

[fluid meadow]

300% chd?

[flint shore]

Does anyone have a trello link?

[hybrid ore]

new talent: soft spot. Perfect version is 24% bonus weapon damage on weak spot destroyed"

[ebon steeple]

booo expertise cap

[frozen relic]

expertise is capped at 30

[hybrid ore]

Expertise is capped at 30

[sinful kelp]

damn. i might equip both :-)

[spare cove]

You ever seen the suppressed icon on an enemy whenever they get shot a lot?

Oh, thank god. Now I don't have FOMO for not reaching max expertise level

[hybrid ore]

MSV are aware of power-creep, are working on it

[sinful kelp]

capped expertise :o

[blazing citrus]

Ik what it is :| . Just cosidering the possibilies

[runic kernel]

huh well at least i won't have to grind exo components anymore

[hybrid ore]

retaliation is for solo or group, will be easier with a group

[frozen relic]

time penalty upon revive

[hybrid ore]

time penalty in retaliation on revive, instant fail on solo death

[sinful kelp]

time to use that lmg suppress talent with tinkerer and this gear set :-)))

[fluid meadow]

sounds harsh for solo peeps

[sinful kelp]

just don't die

[frozen relic]

it fails if you wipe and if u die while solo you wipe

[fluid meadow]

could you just lower world difficulty and clear the retaliation?

[spare cove]

At least that means I don't have to fight recklessly like some players do in random matchmaking

[hybrid ore]

@fluid meadow Yes, but you also get less rewards.

usual thing.

repeat: PTS is going live tomorrow, will last a day longer than normal. ONLY 1 PHASE.

[delicate scaffold]

Where can I see the patch notes

[spare cove]

After stream

[ebon steeple]

drop later today

[frozen relic]

i also assume black tusk will not be involved in retaliation as well never seen anything about them in it just outcasts hyenas and true sons in dc and cleaners/rikers in brooklyn

[spare cove]

That'd be a bummer, cuz I always enjoy fighting Black Tusk.

[ebon steeple]

black tusk dont really have a set area, just invading current ones

[sinful kelp]

im definitely farming for the new gear set. up to 300% CHD? count me in

[hybrid ore]

DC/NYC/Brooklyn are all involved in retaltation, no "bonus" for owning the DLC's though.
Retaliation is tied in with the season story

[spare cove]

I'd like a new Black Tusk archetype. An Officer, maybe?

[glass flare]

Is master difficulty harder than legendary?

[unreal perch]

No

[spare cove]

Makes me think the season's story involves a big retaliation against Black Tusk.

[sinful kelp]

what is the difference between legendary and master anyways

[hybrid ore]

yannick will be at gamescom, 2 panels there

[remote pecan]

Solo? Yes. There is no group scaling.

[ebon steeple]

master is between heroic and legendary in terms of difficulty

[hybrid ore]

MSV are aware of the climax mission bug, are working on what's the cause, fixing it is the "highest priority".

Aces Outfit available for textiles until September 2.

will do more textile outfits if feedback is positive

stretch goals can not be purchased with money, ever. MSV not comfortable with it

[spare cove]

I'd love to buy Dunne outfit with textiles

[blazing citrus]

Shouldve voted

[thin oasis]

66/71 Apparel cache rewards......don't think i'm going to get the rest 🙁

[hybrid ore]

@blazing citrus the vote was between aces and babyface.

[blazing citrus]

I thought it was people suggested then it was put to a vote

[hybrid ore]

Nope.

[blazing citrus]

Huh 🥲

[hybrid ore]

Retaliation: you can get "wildcard materials", to convert other factions, even if you don't own the DLC"

[frozen relic]

theres ny kill squad caches for non dlc owners

[remote pecan]

yea I don't know what they changed, you could get up to X/100 so they removed some of them

[blazing citrus]

I wish the free apparel caches were weighted towards new stuff slightly

[hybrid ore]

@ebon steeple enjoy the shoutout~!

[ebon steeple]

woohoo name dropped

[hybrid ore]

Joel is now canon, confirmed.

[thin oasis]

Yeah, i've been stuck on 65/71 for about 3 weeks lmao.

GOt a single new one today

[blazing citrus]

Or a rotating textiles inventory

[spare cove]

Oh, the journey 7 reward is a Hunter mask? Neat.

[hybrid ore]

Just to repeat: Tempest full auto-pistol will be the Climax Mission reward, not during the Pass

PvP news in the future, stay tuned

[ebon steeple]

kinda surprised they didnt mention how OP tinkerer is in PvP rn

[spare cove]

I can wait as long it needs be.

[stark heron]

Oh god

[sinful kelp]

theyre promising pvp updates what the hell

[fluid meadow]

1 day people..

[hybrid ore]

cleaners attacked MSV HQ,in "retaliation", confirmed

[blazing citrus]

When is gamescon?

[rigid wedge]

aka get people to do it with you on master or spend too long getting it

[hybrid ore]

@blazing citrus next week.

[spare cove]

Next week. Runs from August 20-23

[blazing citrus]

:O

[rigid wedge]

is retaliation pvp only or pve?

[kind veldt]

did they show the new exotics visually?

[hybrid ore]

pve only.

[spare cove]

PvE only

[remote pecan]

yes

[frozen relic]

pve only

[rigid wedge]

POG

[ebon steeple]

yeah pistol is a auto m9 with a long mag and sniper is wrapped in a black blanket

[spare cove]

Yeah, I don't see how a PvE feature would affect PvP.

[kind veldt]

well i wanted to see it

[remote pecan]

93r no?

[thin oasis]

Clan Strongholds would be a pretty awesome PVP addition, Attackers vs defenders. Upgrades available and customisation options

[ebon steeple]

looked like a m9 but they look similar and idk guns

[dusk trench]

@hybrid ore y'know given how he just said retaliation is tied to the seasonal story, it'd be really fun if the climax mission is just all of the factions jumping you at once

[blazing citrus]

Its an open world activity thats per map area

[blazing citrus]

Hunters taking control points 🤔

[opaque lion]

Patch notes?

[remote pecan]

for me it looked like a 93r 😄

[sinful kelp]

that would be funny

[blazing citrus]

Its been loke 10 seconds

[hybrid ore]

I always referred to that as a faction war, like when a bunch of random factions showed up during a street fight and then you got absolutely bodied.

[dusk trench]

yeah it's an exotic 93r

[rigid wedge]

hopefully it can get me those rare exotics tied to Brooklyn and climax mission rewards- it doesn't do that does it?

[frozen relic]

probably not climax but hopefully calalyst will be there

[fluid meadow]

Does someone remember the dmg and rpm?

[ebon steeple]

it was like 170k and 700 ish rpm

[hybrid ore]

full details for the PTS are about to drop.

[remote pecan]

and the sniper is a mosin, so probably model 700 type

[spare cove]

Modernized model 700?

[hybrid ore]

the sniper has a snuggie, we dont need to know more. its perfect.

[frozen relic]

i might check the vod and see what exotics are missing if i can whenever its up

[fluid meadow]

Raid ones are not there

[frozen relic]

BEST SNIPER IN THE GAME

[blazing citrus]

Imagine if we could dye it or put skins on it 🥲

[fluid meadow]

Also the ones with a collection path like liberty

[frozen relic]

yeah i assumed that much

[hybrid ore]

I read that as "put skin on it", and i was getting very concerned.

[remote pecan]

yea like m700 carbon

[blazing citrus]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[hybrid ore]

Yannick did say "almost any exotic", implying that incursion/raid ones are still locked.

[ebon steeple]

snipers prob gonna get a skin a month into the new season like the pakhan did

[blazing citrus]

If we could dye exotics id have a neon pink one

[rigid wedge]

that's fine.

[blazing citrus]

Pts preload

[spare cove]

Patch notes! They're here!

[rigid wedge]

they deleted the link

[frosty wadi]

Oop

[blazing citrus]

🥲

[hexed niche]

cap lvl 30 exp kinda sucks 😭

[rigid wedge]

I have them tho so

[cunning yacht]

WHERE MY PATCH NOTES!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[remote pecan]

https://trello.com/c/ReYzcNGL

[blazing citrus]

I can see both sides. They dont wanna push new people back further and further but also its limiting new stuff for veterans to do

[spare cove]

Whoever said that Black Tusk was not gonna be involved in Retaliation was right, unfortunately.

[hexed niche]

I love being get power and more power

[fluid meadow]

the sniper mod ingame was chd% no? patch note says chc%

[frosty wadi]

Honk mimimi new gear but new mode seems interesting Ill have to go through it more later

[spare cove]

Agree to disagree on the gear-set

[remote pecan]

underbarrel mod 5% chd

[heady elk]

can I get another tinkerer mask if I already got one from master difficulty?

[thin oasis]

"Tank - “Rupert’s Tear”: Breaking any piece of a Tank’s armor causes all other armor pieces to break instantly. For each armor piece broken this way, enemies within 15 meters are inflicted with Bleed for 2 seconds"

Fun for sadists lmao

[blazing citrus]

I think its possible but only guaranteed for 1st master run

[remote pecan]

or on another char

[heady elk]

aight thanks guys

[lusty shale]

How do you even access the PTS? I keep seeing it's supposed to be in my library...?

[spare cove]

Restart Ubisoft Connect. That's how I got it.

[thin oasis]

If you own the game on steam it should be next to it in your library

[thin oasis]

"Tempest – Exotic 93R Pistol
Talent “Restrained” - The pistol is fully automatic and deals +25% Amplified Damage for 20s after your Shield gets broken.

Exotic Mods:

Magazine: +50% Stability

Muzzle: +15% Crit Chance"

[lusty shale]

ahah, thanks that worked 👍 yeah I should have thought of that

[remote pecan]

the shield break makes it meh
and you don't want to really use it with bulwark, because the shield is way too tanky to trigger the talent consistently

[fickle edge]

What's the talent for the new exotic full auto pistol?

[thin oasis]

Would the 30% mag size increase work with Bullet king...if so that new 4pc set could be deadl;y

[thin oasis]

#td2-general-chat message

[unique bramble]

And we could say you only benefit 18s of the 20s since you get stun effect when the shield breaks, (even with hzd immunity).

[wise quest]

anyone else having issues passing the tinkerer?

[blazing citrus]

Is the pts opt in or auto install?

[wise quest]

i keep getting stuck and have to keep killing myself and then dudes wann ago youtube it while im waiting for them to kill themselves too

[kind veldt]

Opt in, you download and install a different game from the list

[dusk trench]

ngl i laughed at "they burn until they die"

[thin oasis]

You need to install the PTS version of the game

[thin oasis]

It seems RNG based whether Kiko bugs out or not. Just wipe and restart

[oak geode]

I swear to god, who designs the talents for this game.

Why have a talent that trigger when you shield breaks????? Especially now that you get confused when the shield breaks?????

That's so absolutelly useless, the whole job of a tank is to not break the shield, what the actual flying F

[unique bramble]

An average cleaner wrote this modifier description.

[remote pecan]

I think that is something we can give feedback on the pts channels, but I doubt they will change the whole talent, more like no disorient or something.

[oak geode]

But that's just bad design, like a 15 minutes chat with even ChatGPT would let anyone understand why

[rose jolt]

Hyenas Shield - “Unfriendly Fire”: Shooting a Shield deflects your bullets, dealing 50% of the damage to each enemy within a radius around the shield user.

somone explain.. if I shoot my buddy will that work or is it only enemy shields

[thin oasis]

Enemjies shield. Can't do friendly damage

[fickle edge]

https://trello.com/c/ReYzcNGL pts patch notes

[thin oasis]

We know....they literally posted them in here.... #news-and-announcements

[remote pecan]

don't even need that, I think it's sometimes just if they tried the talent by playing
at least it is not kill based, we have way too many of them in the game

[rose jolt]

shame

[oak geode]

Yeah, another reminder that they don't even play the game they make 😮‍💨

[spare cove]

You lost me when you mentioned ChatGPT

[thin oasis]

Well, they don't play it well, but you also can't expect them to understand the ins and outs of every mathematical gameplay element.

They literally look at data, and make changes based on equipment that's currently not being used. This was probably an (admittedly poor) attempt to get people to use the bigger shields over the traditional striker shield

[oak geode]

Replace ChatGPT with "google search" or "commons sense", the outcome is the same

[spare cove]

Also, they have a job in developing games, so I don't expect a lot of them to play a lot of hours playing the games they're developing

[remote pecan]

lul

[thin oasis]

It's like saying to a Mcdonalds worker "Bet you love your job, all that free McDonalds"

You'll find most of t hem don't eat it...

[hybrid ore]

And it's not even free if you work there.

so this comparison is weird.

[fickle edge]

Well this new retaliation thing is ok but I hope the timer isn't too tight

[oak geode]

It's not even about math and min-maxing, it's about talent design, and gameplay logic. Why apply a buff, when you fail to keep your shield up, and then waste that buff because your are also confused afterwards

[hybrid ore]

Okay that's enough armchair devwork for one day, wait until you try the new mode before you complain, at least.

[spare cove]

My comparison or Max's?

[hybrid ore]

whoever said that mcdonalds gives you free food as a perk.

[remote pecan]

Steady Handed on marksman rifles already seems odd and there are some other talents like Ranger on shotguns, even tho they were meant to be filler talents, now that we have a lot more talents in the pool, I don't really think there is a need for them anymore.

[hybrid ore]

they do not.

[thin oasis]

They do, at least in the UK. 1 free meal per day.

[hybrid ore]

yeah thats not how it works elsewhere

% off

[spare cove]

I wouldn't mind removing some of those unnecessary talents for each weapon category.

[pliant sentinel]

hi rvens

[hybrid ore]

hey DJ

[brazen fossil]

im at tier 50 of the pass rn am i cooked if i wanna hit 100 before the event

[hybrid ore]

PTS preload is now live

[pliant sentinel]

remind me to roll killer on one of my ARs tomorrow

[thin oasis]

Nope, x3 season event live

[remote pecan]

don't mind it
gameplay designers obviously need to know some of the stuff they're designing and also test them ingame
a guy that "programs" the talent is most likely a different person, even tho with all that scripting languages in the engines could be the same person

[brazen fossil]

oooh nice

[kind veldt]

I mean we have a talent to recover armor after it breaks and its great

[brazen fossil]

what do play to get the most xp fast

[spare cove]

Priority objective missions and strongholds.

[thin oasis]

Priority objectives, with bonus xp on strongholds

With x3 xp it'll be around 3/4 SP levels per completion

[oak geode]

But that makes more sense, Like the tardigrade

[kind veldt]

The talent ends up being a safety net instead or backup

[brazen fossil]

all strongholds? invaded/non

[spare cove]

All of them.

[thin oasis]

Any you have on a priority objective

[brazen fossil]

oh so i just pick the stronghold prio missions

[thin oasis]

Correct

[kind veldt]

Your big shield broke, heres a damage boost to let you kill whatever broke your shield is how insaw it

[brazen fossil]

alright then nice now i gotta actually grind

[thin oasis]

Ideally, you want them with a XP reward

[kind veldt]

There is definetly a point about the confuse effect with shield break that i agree should be removed if using the weapon

[thin oasis]

because that also gives x3 SP xp

[remote pecan]

I'll say it again, you don't really want to play it with Bulwark 😄

[kind veldt]

My current shield build uses bulkwark with all red

[oak geode]

Does this sound likie a safety net?

Talent “Restrained” - The pistol is fully automatic and deals +25% Amplified Damage for 20s after your Shield gets broken.

[remote pecan]

cool

[pliant sentinel]

i think they should bring back the nomad classified but make it 100% chance for u to be healed to full health

[kind veldt]

Yeah, something broke your shield, heres a bonus to make sure you can kill it faster now that you are exposed

Its a buff until you can get your shield back

[remote pecan]

I'd prefer to not loose my shield in the first place, with something that buffs my damage beforehand.

[oak geode]

But you can't aim properly so you can't use the damage, cause you get confused, and that confused cannot be removed by HZP

[kind veldt]

#td2-general-chat message

[thin oasis]

Should be part of the "Talent"

"Removes the confuse and stagger effect of shield breaking"

[oak geode]

And that would make the gun usable, but not even comparable to the other exo revolver or the good reliable liberty

[thin oasis]

Although, it would then be open to weapon switch abuse, where you could use it as a sidearm and switch as the shield broke to avoid the stun altogether

So it's a tough one in general to balance. And such a niche that really it wasn't worth adding.

[tender wave]

The disorient doesn't last 20s though. The damage buff does.

[remote pecan]

I don't know how you all play shields, but when I do and it breaks I almost die during the confusion time or quickly after, because I can't get fast enough into cover or heal up and if I don't die I have other things in mind than dealing damage, in that case it doesn't really matter how long the buffs lasts.
I think we can all agree on that the talent needs somewhat of a change.

[vapid turtle]

It should be like protector. Imo. Shield is dmg. Gain a dmg boost to pistol for a set duration. Doesn't stack

[kind veldt]

Issue with giving damage while shield is up, you kinda breaks things for PVP by giving people a tank with DPS just making someone invincible and being able to kill others, i know there are issues with similar builds on pvp

[thin oasis]

"Deals 1% more damage per 3% shield damage taken. Stacks up to 30 times. When your shield breaks, shield stun and stagger have no effect, but shield cooldown is doubled"

Would have probably been better

[oak geode]

Just disable the talent in PvP, this game sucks for PvP anyway, and pvp was never balanced anyway

[brazen fossil]

yall is DUA faster on normal or invaded

[full zinc]

Fast either way

[thin oasis]

INvaded missions are generally quicker, in my experience

[kind veldt]

Mostly disagree because what shield builds want is safety and not double shield cooldown

[blazing citrus]

My version of it

• full auto
• +25% damage on shield break
• no disorient on shield break
• heal x amount of shield health per kill while broken

[thin oasis]

While broken it goes into cooldown, so maybe reducing the cooldown would be better.

[remote pecan]

heal x amount of shield health per kill while broken
good idea, how about cd reduction, because you can't get shield health while it is broken

[thin oasis]

Parrot....lmao

[blazing citrus]

I meant cd reduction 🥲

[oak geode]

There we go, that's already better. with CD reduction

There we go better design than Ubisoft could imagine

[blazing citrus]

5s cd reduction per kill? ¯_(ツ)_/¯

[thin oasis]

I feel though that with my version, perhaps lower the damage to 0.5, it encourages better use of the shield rather than face tanking until it breaks

[blazing citrus]

Im interested in how the pts buildcrafters will use it

[thin oasis]

I'd be worried about removing the stun/stagger from shield breaks as it is one of the literal downsides to using one. Especially one that you can use Primaries with

So maybe in answer to that, it should only work with a full shield

[oak geode]

Just diable the "stagger removal" in PvP and everyone would be happy. the stagger was added for PvP anyway

[brazen fossil]

why am i getting actually destroyed wtf is this cause i havent played in a week

[thin oasis]

Stop getting shot

[brazen fossil]

true...

[blazing citrus]

I mean the whole thing behind the exotic is requiring break so imo stun and stagger removal is needed

[thin oasis]

Yes, in it's current iteration sure. But as it currently is, requiring the shield to break forces a dumb playstyle and opposes the literal use of the shields in the first place

[blazing citrus]

Indeed

Is pts a "subject to change" situation or near polished schtuff

[thin oasis]

Perhaps it would have been better to have:

"+25% damage buff when using a shield, buff depletes with shield damage"

[oak geode]

When was the last time on the PTS the actually listened to feedback? Like 90% of the new items and set are litterally useless

[kind veldt]

They buffed oxepecker magazine size

Pakhan damage

[oak geode]

Like they could have copy pasted Final measure from TD1 and had a better result than the terrible version we have now in TD2

[blazing citrus]

Idk. Thats why im asking ._.

[oak geode]

And in matchmaking you see a lot of Pakhan and oxepecker right?

[thin oasis]

It's still shite though lmao

[oak geode]

Last time I saw an oxepecker it was with a random that joined my legendary rosevelt, ran at a chunga, lost the shield, got stunned and died instantly

And I litterally never seen a Pakhan user

[kind veldt]

I could ask about how much you see snipers without hotshot/determined

Is that the only way to make use of snipers?

Ita just the strongest

[oak geode]

I didn't even see people using the Pakhan (Hungry Hog) in division 1 either, except once from me doing a commanding build

[thin oasis]

Determined should at least have a time limit.....even if everyone cries about it 😛

[oak geode]

Yes but so what? It something that works, we are talking about items that got added that all they do is sit a chest

[thin oasis]

As it is, the HH build is completely broken

[kind veldt]

But are people not using because they are stuck to meta or because they are legit bad

[oak geode]

Like we can debate all day about things being too good, and sure we can get some interesting opinions and balance changes.

I'm taking about items that get added, you grab them, and off you go straight to the chest, or dismantled, eg: Birdie's Quick Fix

[oak geode]

I'm not understanding what you mean, can you explain again?

[thin oasis]

Imo, you can't use meta in an argument against bad design. THe meta will always exist, even if they magically managed to perfectly balance everything, something will ALWAYS outperform everything else.

Giving logevity to a game like Division 2 should involve overhauling the meta from time to time.

Providing things that not only beat t he current meta, but also encourage new use of the old ones.

[small vigil]

Birdie’s Quick Fix is one of the few exotics worth keeping in you inventory for quick swappingto res someone

[kind veldt]

Is the actually bad or are people just not using because its not better than meta, aka anything that isnt striker or hotshot determined is ignored by most dps people, unless they are going out of their way to play with something different that is still fine just not busted

[oak geode]

It's both, like if it's not strong or fun or niche, people will not use it. Because it's not worth the time and effort to grind to get the item

If it's not strong it must have some fun mechanic, or some interesting niche to fit in, if an items fails at all 3, it's just filler

[thin oasis]

On the plus side, the new LMG kit looks AT LEAST half decent

[kind veldt]

Well gotta test it first, i think just by fact of having large magazine and being full auto that is already carrying its weight

And talent complements its use on shield builds

Compared to ouro that is just raw damage

[small vigil]

Since snipers were brought up it’s worth mentioning that Hotshot Determined versus actually using a sniper and hitting headshots are 2 completely different things. It’s a HUGE playstyle difference and not just a matter of it being better

[oak geode]

Like, I use the bluescreen with my striker, because it's not the best for DPS, but it has the niche to fill, of CC plus DPS hybrid. But I cannot say the same for so many more items.

[thin oasis]

Yep. Essentially, it's a exploit that they left in the game because people cried about it being removed.

[oak geode]

I'm happy to bet money on it, that almost everyone will be disappointed with it on PTS release

But yeah, let's see how it is on live

(Which also reminds me, they nerfed that pistol ROF some time ago too 🤦‍♂️)

[jagged prism]

nodsPTS opening up this weekend = the stretch goals are going to be 2 weeks

[brazen fossil]

yay dua done

that took a while actually is there no faster way to grind this

[jagged prism]

can't say i'm impressed with this gear though, but i guess will have to see how it pans out with the new mechanic

[jagged prism]

i'd honestly say it's not going to be great as your shield has to break to get that damage and since we get disoriented upon shield breaking, we don't get much damage out of the pistol in general

unless you know if we can build haz pro to counteract the disorient?

[kind veldt]

You cant

[small spear]

yeah the disorient ignores any res