#td2-general-chat
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Okay, got me really worried, thanks
PVP isnt in a great place. There are cheaters but I wouldn't say it's any more widespread than any other game.
ah fair enough
yeah i mean metas been pretty stagnant lately
What I will say is that just like any other PvE game....PvP will always have issues regarding balance.
Its next to impossible to have balance when your game is designed mostly around PvE.
ok well thanks 🙂 look forward to hoping on later and playing
If you enjoy looter shooters, grinding and tactical cover based gameplay then you'll enjoy this.
Its like Gears of War took a line of go faster powder
i played divsion one years ago it was fun
question abt tinkerer does it require the exact same gun for the effect or just same weapon class?
so 2 LMGs with 2 different talents
is the gift still good?
if running providence doesn't hamper your build in other ways then yes, it's slightly better than regular vigilance
I thought heroic control points were supposed to have an additional blueprint in the big chest
No, they sometimes drop them as a reward for the activity, they don't come from the loot chest
ah alr
hi do you wanna farm exotics again
sure
nvm theres something wrong with my game help
does the ttk on the github factor in talents and stuff
is master equivalent difficulty to heroic?
no, it's tougher
hello
How do you even unlock master missions? I haven't seen them yet
Its for specific missions, not available as a general difficulty
Its only for the man hunt finales
random jumping into people's mission runs via matchmaking just netted me a memento from the dcd headquarters. not bad. i fear i have used up all my luck
Sorry for quoting you, but you can repeat mission finales right? as many times as needed for the new exotic to drop? (the one that merges talents from weapons). Doing that in master difficulty sounds like a matchmaking nightmare, i'd rather repeat it many times in heroic
yes you can repeat them as much as needed still 4 weeks out tho
think im in love with bullet king
negev if it didn't have any bad parts
Lack of weapon modding and no damage Talent, but it is fun to w+m1 your way through the game.
It's the Pyro from tf2 of weapons.
wait a minute... "Master difficulty is designed to be tougher than Heroic but not as intense as Legendary" Is this true?
does part 2 of scout seven require 3 control points or just 3 activities
Yep, Master ain't that tricky, just needs your team to be less dumb than average.
is master doable solo?
The majority of people here play on PC right? At least that’s what I’m seeing lol
oohhh so is less intense than Legendary, I thought it was even harder. So yeah, i'm not afraid of no master, bring it on
A control point counts as 2 activities, so might as well be sure.
(one to take, one to defend)
yes they're not that hard
No, otherwise it would be called heroic
ik it's major help for the liberation quests
reduce true sons numbers around white house
anna please give me elmo from your objectives already
i js gotta kill 25 of them
kill true sons in white house
Think of it like Story > Normal > Hard > Chall' > Heroic > Master > Legendary > playing with someone who is running spotify through their mic.
yea can we do this control point rq
ye
The true elmo is the friends you made along the way 😉
I don't even need it my teammate does I have like 8 of them
do you not want someone who's eating their mic?
Lol same never have to reload 😋
I saw that rivs lol
abuse of power! 
Brazilian celebrity abusing the mic you meant 
Pfft, as if I know who's in a gif I post.
unless it's from one of the 3 shows I watch, I've got a 5:1 odds on not.
LMFAO an npc yelled do you ever run out of ammo ( im using bullet king)
does the week 2 scout need you to be group leader for it to count?
lemme try it anyway
kk
try relogging
yep
Is there a list of that flavor dialogue? I love it. Like when you're using shields, they once called me a coward for hiding behind one.
@cyan musk wait im stupid as shit
how
it said campus vendor
you didn't go to the campus did you
yep i was selling my shit to white house
lmao 😭
oh god😭😭😭
join when you're ready
how many cp's do you need for step 2 1 or 3
it says 1/2
we need another cp
Hey ghost how’s the grind going
i got bullet king
Ay nice
and i love it holy shit'
Thanks
BK is a nice weapon for lower difficulties. Suffers somewhat due to lack of DPS in higher difficulties. Even with a Striker build
A solid gun though, and never running out of ammo or reloading can be hilarious
It has a nice weapon design
also suffers on the whole 'forcing enemies into cover' thing which just slows you down when you're trying to push through an area
The gold color and bullets on it it’s cool
It does....i would love transmog on Div2
Yeah....and suppression is kind of counter intuitive for guns that have Dttooc 🤣🤣
Obligatory iron lung shill as it directly counters suppression
IL is a fantastic gun though lol
i love iron lung
i love filling my lungs with iron :3
it can have a good sinergy if you have a friend with Hunter's Fury or whatever, you and your portable turret make everyone hide, while your runner friend flank everyone. But yeah, too many steps
That sounds an awful lot like thinking.....we dont want to do too much of that. Gun go brrr, enemy go dead
i play div2 to shoot shit till my brain goes numb so yeah
I just found out the exodus smoke bomb counts as out of combat time
it even regens most of your armor
yeah bc you get the out of combat armor regen
@noble owl ill check it out thx
Anyone by chance have floor 89 in the summit open i can get the lm from pls and ty
Unfortunately I'm at 90 something. Was planning to reset but I changed my mind
yeah i finished mine to get the rewards at the end and it just takes SO LONG to get back up
is there a way to still get extra exotic components if i have 6000 shd calibration ony my watch?
Do we have meintenence tomorrow? What are the solution riddles manhunt tomorrow?
lets hope the next store has good bags or outfits
is there any way to get invaded roosevelt stronghold on per say someone else's map?
i need this last nemisis part 😭
Did you get the blueprint yet ?
You cant swap a mission to invaded unless its invaded that week.
But really if you have the blueprint from gwh its already added to your loot pool and can be farmed anywhere.
Fyi invaded zoo can drop Nemesis parts
A random exotic part*
It doesn't drop just Nemesis parts afaik
It does drop a Nemesis part
Or at least used to
I got the last part I needed at zoo,but this was a long time ago
i cant see the cosmetics on it anywhere... how do i see whats available to unlock
Esc - crossroads - season pass
Scroll down to see all the rewards
I meant other exotic project parts, not excluding Nemesis
(idk how to explain myself 🫠)
The nimble holster and exotic caches are pretty worth it, but it’s mostly just cosmetics. The cosmetics are ok though nothing crazy imo
I've never heard of it dropping parts for liberty or chatterbox or anything else except nemesis.
I’m playing the tombs mission and it’s telling me to do examine parnells body but it’s nowhere to be found
Is it your first run? There should be a big obvious loot beam where the new skill is.
Or are you near the start of the mission
. This is my second run of it
Pretty sure it only drops nemesis parts
You at the end of the mission or the cafeteria bit near the start?
Threw grenade my feet and killed myself and redid the boss fight, and then it fixed itself
Having to redo the Parnell part sounds painful
How have I ran MNZ this many times and never seen the massive bloody squid before 🤣
i have a question. Does the lexington come back in the next 2 weeks?
nobody knows when it's coming back
literally no one?
Nope. Not even Ubisoft.
They plan to add it again, at some point. That's all that's known
dang so its a mystery?
Just know they want you to have it
Yep, it's a mystery.
They want people who missed out to get it. They haven't made any comment on when it'll happen.
What’s the deal with the Lexington?
alr thx for telling ig im gonna wait. hope it wont realese when im on vacation lol
is there a way to still get extra exotic components if i have 6000 shd calibration ony my watch?
Apart from being amongst the best ARs in the game? It's one of those....once you missed it it's gone type deals.
Everyone wants it because it's no longer available
what does LZ mean?
Any non dz area
Light Zone....any area not in dark zone
It's a random nemesis part
I always see those 10000+ SHD type people with Lexington on their loadout, I guess it's more of a prestige thing
thx
Trying to find way to get Zero's F for manhunt
And it is only random nemesis parts dropping from invaded zoo
Not really. It was literally just a reward for people. It's used alot because it's one of the best guns
man i hate the bug with Stash that it shows 0/450
Can't say it ever bothers me that much lol
When I go to Brooklyn pier it’s not necessarily Charlie every 30 min. It’s just a random boss. Sometimes it’s charlie. Most times it’s not. Is that normal
its random for me always
Ok so the every 30 min is really every 30 min for a slight chance at Charlie followed by a slight chance at the drop
8% * 8% is like a .6% chance every 30 min
when i was collecting the cards, i noticed they go in order.
alpha, bravo, charlie, etc
Unless you have a steam deck, then you will just need to ask permission for the hotel wifi.
Permission.....most hotels provide free wifi?
Don't think i've ever stayed in a hotel anywhere in the world that doesn't offer free wifi lol
Hello, anyone up?
You mean apart from the dozens of people having conversations all over this discord?
Anyone up for Coney Island?
I don't remember, the last time I was in a hotel was like 7 years ago 
Free wifi is pretty much absolutely a basic hospitality service at this point
how do I do scout 7 part 3?
What is it?
restock our footholds east of the white house
I've dono'd like 400 mats to control points east of the white house but have 0 progress
Where have you donated them to?
restart the game, and do again unfortunetly
red dragon, demo site, and mlk
happen to me, was told the same and it worked
bruh
Seems to be a bug, according to reddit.
Try logging out and back in then do it again
im just glad i stopped and checked after the 2nd control point lol
I checked after dumping 170 into the first one and it didn't give me the exo component
how many exo components do I need for expertise 10
Hi,
I own The Division 2 base game and the Warlords of New York DLC on my Ubisoft account — I purchased them a while ago but didn’t play much back then.
I recently moved newzealand and tried to buy the Brooklyn DLC through the Ubisoft Store, but for some reason, the payment won’t go through.
So here’s my main question:
If I purchase the Brooklyn DLC on Steam, will it work with my Ubisoft account where I already own the base game and Warlords of New York DLC?
In short:
Ubisoft (base game + WONY DLC)
Steam (Brooklyn DLC)
= Playable through Ubisoft Connect?
Thanks in advance for your help.
yeah bc steam is linked to your ubi account
Thanks! I’ll try purchasing the DLC through Steam.
i would make sure ur steam and ubi account are linked before u purchase
since u had the games on ubi, they might not be linked
Can't play on steam without linking it. Requires Uplay to even run
well if they bought div through steam it automatically linked on first start up
right, but op mention the games on ubi
for week 8 I have to finish a run of the capitol building before I get the bounty right?
Yes
oh also are there any builds that can solo legendary
There are plenty of builds that can solo legendary
Yes lots
Anyone else got 2 lexingtons? Just been looking and think my wepkns dhave dupicated them selfs
They all require you to be an excellent player. Soloing lego isnt for the feint of heart. Its a heart attack waiting to happen
They gave out one initially, but some people didn't get it, so they gave a 2nd one to everyone that logged in before X date I think.
well I'm nowhere near min maxxed and starting to feel heroic is a bit easy
But when soloing it's also not just about your build but your skill lvl as well, I'd advise having a solid duo partner to help run you through it as a duo
gotta know the spawn points, stuff like that
The step up from Heroic to lego is not the same as the others. Its an entirely different game
is legendary available for all missions or only strongholds and summit?
bc ik the bank hq spawns very well from time trials
Strongholds and summit, although I've probably never ran legendary summit
I've lego summit is good for getting capped mods
what is the minimum roll for lego ik heroic is 1/2 bar
Not entirely sure
The spawns change on Legendary, and the enemies are different. So even knowing them now, they wouldn't be the same.
yeah legendary is all white tusk right?
Yes.
Yes, and they have different abilities
Abilities?
If you want to see the difficulty jump, go try DUA. That'll give you an idea of how hard it actually is when you're new to it vs what you might have seen in a video lol.
Rushers use shock grenades for example
I think that's the only difference between Black and White Tusks
I just realized I completely forgot to turn the seasonal modifier back on after reanimated
Oh and elite grenadier warhounds dont shock on Legendary, but that's a minor detail
You'd do just fine without
And the tanks use stinger hives....which can be deadly fast
Oh yeah
In comparison to Heroic ANY mistake on Legendary is a deadly one
Thats the main difference
There are certainly room for error, but the window for recovery is significantly smaller
Except Summit Legendary, which isn't really a Legendary
And there are also the addition of "Legendary Enemies" which can be any type and tier of enemy.... but far more deadly
yeah the extra offense is fun tho
can you fight rogues on legendary and if so how stupidely difficult are they?
No
thank god
Rogues by today's standards is a piece of cake
You can just mag dump into them and call it a day
Is legendary mostly for cosmetic?
People do Legendaries mostly for reasons other than cosmetic
what cosmetics do you get in legendaries?
The Operator Outfit and 2 backpack trophies
Hunters though....Legendary hunters are something else entirely
There are no legendary hunters in div2
Floor 100 of the summit begs to differ
They're only there because it's fl100 summit lol, and 80% pfe says they're a piece of cake
Just the disrupt that's a pain really
Well today in the Summit on Heroic with just 2 directives and a skill build, I got a 13% PFE mod. I have been looking for another one for about 3 years.
Is the first dlc worth getting?
Wpuld say so
does the chc on the stats page include seasonal modifiers?
Yes
Is story difficulty easier then normal I’m trying to speedrun prime directives
yes
i'd say make sure you read those directives. some will have "Normal or higher difficulty" tied to it so running on story will just be a waste of time
I just got btsu gloves from tidal basin let's go
you mean exotic component to use on expertise upgrade? (> <)
are the btsu gloves no longer meta for fi?
still is, look into localdeck's profile for a mortar supremacy build that uses it as well (> <)
I think I just got dejavu from this...
cool detail I just noticed turrets target acquire (both shd and static) slower during foggy weather
looks like a solid build, but i won't run it since i'm content with my mortar build (> <)
no need for 2 different mortar builds you know?
what's the chance of getting 3 named items from a red bar enemy on challenging
I got cuelbre, thorn, and like glue from the same enemy
Gratz!
maybe I should run tidal basin for often
Who knew the collector chestpiece was really that bad
think the only good thing about it is being below 2 grenades to generate a grenade bit, but yeah
I think if they made it generate infinite grenades then it could work and be a mid tier exotic
techinically it is infinite grenades though? just limited upto 2
i would've been happier if they made an exotic backpack though, that + madbomber would've been great!
Yeah that’s the really big fault of it, without mad bomber most enemies just roll away and now firewall grenades are the only grenade that works with the collector
Real shame cuz it’s a nice looking chest piece too
@jagged prism I ran a 5 directives heroic mission with that Ridgeway build
highest damage I put out was 1.5 million crit headshot
I did swap to a MP5 ST though, I prefer the SMG more
higher bullet damage, im guessing less DPS overall but that's ok
ohh, and your verdict? 🤔
I like it
the Ridgeway healing is minor most of the time but when you're getting swamped or clearing spawns it's amazing
lol, anytime i think of ridgeway i want to use it with Creeping death
That would pop the Regen so fast lmao
yeah, maybe one day i'll try it again, think i tried it once via OD, Ridgeway + Creeping death and was disappointed
then again i probably went the status effects route with the minors
OD chest buff kinda killed the interest in ridgeway
the synergy is there, it's just not strong, better options appeared over time
OD isn't even the best set for ridgeway
that's the annoying thing
Question does anyone have the gatehouse facility mission my game is bugged and I dont have it, so i cant progress at all
bad thing is, i don't know if i'm bleeding them from ridgeways or just from OD anyways so it makes it even more confusing
🤔 hmm, wonder what it'd be like 4 Aegis, Ridgeways and regular creeping death or perfect?
Probably regular so you can use Belstone or something. You definitely would be hard to kill
honestly my other thought was putting together a pure armor regen build
I've been needing to try this
I already have the pieces!
Did they ever fix the headshot commendation for Army Terminal?
Im just going to throw this out there....if I answer your back-up call, pick you up and help you complete the task. Then you walk away without my commendation or even a wave, you are more toxic than a ex-girlfriend. I hope you down on the boss level and your game deletes itself. Have a nice day lol
lol, playing a game so seriously that you worry about commendations wow
definitely not a toxic response 
water off a ducks back
🤔 Devs can we have some kind of unkillable hunter named Karma?
I think he meant getting endorsed
correction- *water off a penguin's back
It was meant in a joking manner 🤣🤣. If it bothered me that much, i wouldnt answer random back up request lol. I dont even think most players even remember thats a feature to begin with lol
fair
or even know it exists honestly
Or even play the game honestly
i'm waiting on the weekly reset (> <)
🤔 come to think of it, is there a difference in the Manual Endorsement and Auto?
well, i was probably like you with that Gamepass Event @pliant spoke "JUST ENDORSE ME!" so i can get the caretaker (> <)
the last reward on crossroads isnt free 🤡 congrats on getting to 100 you get 1 exotic crate
Auto endorsements were introduced because players won't manually endorse, such that answering backup calls could be a waste of time. Ideally you should now get 2 endorsements per session
the 2 endorsements is that either manually doing it or just letting auto do it's thing? or would manual endorsement net you more?
1 auto 1 manual
one of the zoo miniboss dropped an upgrade and the game forced me in the monorail before i could loot 😭
never do zoo solo 🙂
Or just bring the boss down the stairs before killing
i didn't know, i'm just deleting everything on hard cause daily
It's been broken for almost 2yrs on Xbox, not sure about PC or ps
"Im just going to throw this out there....if I answer your back-up call, pick you up and help you complete the task. Then you walk away without my commendation or even a wave, you are more toxic than a ex-girlfriend. I hope you down on the boss level and your game deletes itself. Have a nice day lol"🤓 ☝️
i dont think ive ever commended someone in my division history lmfao, i honestly didnt even know that was a think
How? There's a prompt asking whether you want to endorse the agent
Issac even makes a little announcement "agent available for endorsement"
please dont call for backup then
I do it when grinding priority objectives to break the monotony
No it isn't....
I use it all the time to help increase people's Shepard Ranks...
I also answer pretty much every call for back up...
So that caretaker is still up for grabs? Or wait for new season?
I just noticed that half of the Brooklyn dlc is also seemingly the starting area from the first game.
Also how does one commend an agent?
Question does anyone have the gatehouse facility mission my game is bugged and I dont have it, so i cant progress at all
Something will pop-up once enough XP has been gained, and it has a hint which (Dpad?) button on console or key on PC to press.
Oh ok.
What's with the parrot bombs?
The what?
There's these stuff parrots that explode if you shoot them or get too close.
parrots?
I feel like I'm in a fever dream.
I assume you mean the drones
They don't move
Their just stationary little parrots.
I found one while climbing up to an ED it was next to a baseball bat with barbed wire
I can show you if you need me to.
Do you still need to get the New York DLC to get lvl 40 cuz my friend wants to try it but doesn't want to spent 30€ just to get lvl 40 and then get into the lvl cycle
No, level 40 and ShD levels are in the base game
Alright thanks
I think it might be for a hunter
The conquerer
Do we have a maintenance break today?
Don’t think so, probably would’ve popped up by now with a warning
Thanks
Anyone else getting uniform 01?
Nope.
Does anyone know how to fix the Recruitment Merit? It says I have 7 of 8 but I have all 8 people.
Congrats.
Remember Pesti ticks are NOT a status. They're only affected by weapon damage
wheres the spoilers
Games like 7 years old mate....theres not really anything to spoil...just hide it behind the spoiler tag if you want
no i meant the manhunt spoilers
When they're solved they'll be posted I'm sure....
keep farming
always
Scout 9:
OBJ 1 - || Complete Open World Activities in East Mall ||
OBJ 2 - || Retake Control Points in East Mall ||
OBJ 3 - || Complete Air and Space Museum on any difficulty ||
thank u bacon

NO SHOT I just got the Coyote mask
Congrats
New to the game. I see that it’s a pretty old game. Does anyone think the will shut services down within the next few years?
If you know How good is the Coyote Mask
Division 1 servers are still up, so unlikely they would shut down Division 2 servers before 1
We're also getting a sequel, which should extend the life of div2 even more.
@woeful tulip Coyotes is excellent for red DPS setups.
Its amongst the BiS for a standard DPS Strikers build
There are other options depending on your preference but it's up there with the most powerful.
Coyotes, 4pc Strikers with Ceska Oblit (or Glass Cannon if you're brave) chest.
No....and now Ubisoft have sparked a worldwide petition to Stop Killing Games hopefully it never will 😅
They just dropped a dlc so I’m assuming at least 3 years but probably more
Didn’t they lobby against the stop killing games thing because it would raise the cost to produce games?
Well, not sure what kind of point they would be trying to make. Literally wouldn't cost them a penny. If anything they could profit from it
They'd have to rewrite stuff like Division to not use Ubisoft servers, that would be a pretty major undertaking. No way they're just going to keep servers running forever themselves.
That's not what SKG is asking for, though.
They're simply asking that if/when developer support ends that they release the code in its existing form into the public domain for anyone to use.
It would then be on the community to make any necessary changes to the code to get the game back into a working state.
Either as a hosted MP experience or simply making it a single player game.
Fair enough, tbf I haven't really been following it
I guess maybe they're concerned about competitors stealing their game engines and similar technical IP stuff?
Theres alot of in depth analysis and different ideas about how it could be achieved from developers and coders on "That video site". I'm not an expert on it by any means. But this rabbit hole could go on for hours and take the channel seriously off topic 😅
I would however, recommend anyone curious check out some the hundreds of hours of stuff on the subject.
It could only ever be a good thing for games.
I guess ways around that would be legislative changes that mean they still own the IP even if its in the public domain it's still under their licence so they can say how it can be used.
All legal jargon that I would assume people smarter than myself could explain
So for example, you could continue development on the released code. But not use that code, or character likenesses anywhere else. If that makes sense
@elfin hazel ^^

Sorry for the ping. You were the only one showing online lol
idgaf I personally think pinging mods shouldn't be as taboo as it is so I'm fine with bein pinged myself 
I heard that the new event is good for expertise? anyone know how to do it and what build?
update today?? or maintenance?
the thing that started today inside event time lines
There’s a new event already?
hi
Hello there
no point doing college as no1 is doing it
Solution on riddles? Manhunt yet?
seach scout 9 in search tool in this room
Found YouTube
hey what can i really do with my lvl 35 Exotic Reward Capacitor? I can´t upgrade it to lvl 40 and i have a lvl 40 so should i just disassemble it?
Apparently it won't even give an exotic component when deconstructed so it's not much use for anything once you've reached 40.
damn that sucks
Eh, it's a little gift to help you reach lvl 40, and it does that job well enough
i really didn´t need it esspecially since i don´t really use it
Well, those leveling caches were only introduced very recently, most of us did all our levelling without them at all, so you're not really missing out on anything
okay well thanks anywho
it doesn´t give anything just so you know^^
Thanks, that confirms what others have said
Question for any PC wizards in here please.
I have been attempting to Launch D2 for the past hour now.
Here is what happens, I double press the icon on the desktop which is a steam shortcut to appid: 2221490
When I do this I get the starting prompt in the middle of the screen then a full black screen with nothing after that it fails back to the desktop and then the Ubisoft sync appears. The game just simply fails to load up.
I have tried clearing out my systems temp files in %temp%, I have cleared out the Steam Cache through the settings > Downloads I have even gone as far as to change the NVME it is housed in and yet the thing still fails to run.
It was working fine yesterday, I have had no system updates, drivers updates or anything changes to the system.
So before I go ahead and wipe the system does anyone have anything else I can try ?
Make sure you have both steam and ubi connect running and logged in to your regular accounts, then try launching it directly from one or the other
Have you tried repairing the game through steam...and/or reinstalling it?
Yeah that was the last thing I did
Tried starting steam and ubisoft as admin?
Sorry should have added that into the wall of text
I would assume you have also restarted both steam and ubisoft launcher and your PC?
Do you own the DLCs on steam too?
still no st elmos💔💔💔
If i can get my game a start i'll run with you until it drops
youve run it as admin already right
just uninstall ubisoft connect and reinstall my game wasnt booting yesterday randomly with a different problem
Yeah ran as admin still the same. I'll re do the Ubisoft connect and try again
make sure to remove the run as admin thing too as it didnt work
Will do
Just removing UC now. What's weird is it is just this game. Others like Assassin's Creed work fine
Might be an EAC issue
That or it's detected something
See I was thinking that but I disabled all AV thinking that was blocking it, wasn't that. I reinstalled the EAC that still didn't work. I am just wondering if two games that are using EAC are conflicting. DayZ runs it and that works fine. I bet if I reboot now it will work
did you reinstall
Why we getting 2X xp?
ubi connect
Lots of things can make EAC go nuts. Not an uncommon issue but can be a pain to find and fix.
Hilarious that EAC is crap at its one and only job...
yeah reinstalled and rebooted
oh f fs steam has now found an update for Div 2 which is probably what is causing the bloo dy issue
There was a patch a week ago
Yeah was working since then, well yesterday. I was running with the clan
or its detected missing files
Working now
wow
Weird as F
anyways @brazen fossil if you wanna team up and get that elmos i can help
Cool
@plucky roost now?
Me and my guys got jumped the other day in DZ i got ptsd
Not that kind 😄
holy shit
But tbh tho
Been lucky lately cuz haven’t encountered any rouges in DZ while extracting
is this heroic or someshit
Invaded MNZ doesn't have the miniguns at the end does it, iirc?
Wonder if the division resurgence gonna come out or not
supposedly they're aiming for this fiscal year so who knows ¯_(ツ)_/¯
Yea
oh great. The devs are now selling animated weapon skins
Need a shd skateboard fr
These legs are too tired traveling a small part of a state
Just think about all the guns/gear/bullets/skills that you aren't carrying as well
Pesti skin
Calves of a god to even jump up to a small platform
Oh how much is it?
1280 iirc
For a weapon skin dam
1290***
1261/1290
There’s always an option not to use it tho
I’ve always tried to not spend money/premium currency even if it’s farmable in a game
guys are targeted loot ars missions better or countdown for if i wanna get st elmos
The only weapon skin worth having imo is the Wolverine one for the Honey Badger...that looks sick
countdown since you can also buy exotic caches from the vendor
Countdown and you can get exotic caches too
Countdown
alright
Idk bro
I got lucky with a cache/ priority objective
damn.
Same with memento
(Always got strega or chameleon on targeted loot for some reason)
I bought ultimate edition when it was on sale when the summer event was on and bought the one time 20$ bundle too and rn over 3100 credits waiting for some cool outfit to come back
Damn
I can’t get memento
It’s cursed for me like spend a whole day farming for it
I got like 4 Elmo’s from the cache and 2 ninja bag and 1 costa from enemies drops( the backpacks not elmos)
I got one for my friend in summit (god tier luck btw cuz normal difficulty)
And one for my other friend ( when i play his account with priority objectives)
Also i got mine with a cache i bought from countdown
Damn
Always wanted an elmo for my friend tho
Holy
Heard that the devs gonna reveal some major update things next month
I might start working on heartbreaker build tomorrow rn gotta get my technician points up
Ikr like I’m surprised too when i got them
Hopefully we get turmoil since that can help me for some builds
I might just use Lexington for only heartbreaker
When it comes back but until then I’ll use kingbreaker
Also idk why but priority objectives been generous to me cuz i got a bunch of catharsis and coyote’s
I use them as exotic components farm Ngl
True
Same with shocker punch and some acostas
I had like 8 from them when I got ouros( on my first ever incursion too) my first reroll gave me max all stats 3rd stat was crit damage
God pull
Funny part in that week I did my first raid and got eb first try and then 2 days later 2 big horns and day after that ouros lmao
I see a lot of people just got away sooooo easy on legendary difficulty but when i go in i died in 3 secs 😭
God pull ngl
Still no memento😭
Eb ? Eagel bearer ?
Yes
Hey uhh you up for help for the friend referral thing ?
Memento, imo is like the best exo hands down for pve content outside of raids and incursion
Exactly helps with almost every build
I try to find someone but my friend 1 is lazy the other just dislike skins 😭
But who gets the skin tho the hunter set
The new player i believe
Both of us or just 1?
The one got invited ig
1 😭
Don’t worry g you get the uhhh insurgent outfit and backpack
Pretty it has to be a fresh account with no play time
Oh I have like 350 hours by now then
I think I'm around 2k hours on xbox
Why not use another account and play for few hours on that account lmao that should work
Can’t tranfer over tho
Sad 😭
This is Xbox btw on ps4 I played since day 1 until countdown release and left after that
You invite that account
And play solo not in a group
Tbh i never knew about the friend referral thing until a day ago
Lol
I found out that there’s a d2 boost site that helps by making every build for you and getting any exotic you want
still no elmos man
And the price? Off the top
Grind for the gear!
It will take time my friend
It’s like 150 for a eb bro what💀
You gotta pay that much so they get you a eb
I mean you grind for the gear, you'll enjoy the game more and feel a sense of accomplishment
man
I didn't get it either. If you go over to the countdown vendor you can buy the exotic caches
Shadow bro 180 usd for a striker Elmo build
i think the only exotic ar ive gotten yet is chameleon💔
Ik I got so many dupes from it 😭 but no memento
Wait it does said that to become an invitee you must be invited by a referrer and have not played the game before jun 11 2024 tho
So do i still have the chance ? 😭
You should heard me when I got my first exotic, tardigrade, I was so excited back then
alr just opened cache got exodus gloves
That sort of thing is against the TOS, and by extension #rules 6
My first exotic merciless
Heard it’s not that good tho
Ik I saw that but there people who actually pay for that?
Good or not it was my first exo
Absolutely highway robbery, I'd do it for 2 mtn dews and a pepperoni pizza with stuffed crust from papa johns
is it worth doing countdown on heroic
No more time wasting
There must be, but even drawing attention to it isn't a good idea, you're only helping them with free advertising...
Only with a group you know, otherwise no not really
Challenge is faster
Well yeah tbh It’s just that the talent is a bit stiff on some situations
Ye ik
True but I get bored sometimes and mm for heroic cd
Damn i’ve been doing on heroic recently might gonna change it to challenging
Same but it ain’t worth it that much
No more mentioning it lol, no free advertisement here
70 ? 👀
Alright done
Btw y’all think they gonna add survival for d2?
Pain
It feels like my heart is not doing great on this
I get laughs when half the group dies at extraction when running in without taking cover or DC after touching main obj chest
Lmao
Dc ?
I would absolutely LOVE if they did, doubtful, but the hope is there
Disconnect
We just gotta hope
Haven’t seen much people disconnected tho
Ngl this payday 2 event was cool
Who uses DC to refer to "disconnected" 
Loved the free outfits
🤣 🤣
I still want that timepiece trophy and stinger outfit tho
But it seems like my hopes and dreams are ashes now
What platform you play on
Pc
It's random, but I personally never touch the big orange crates at main obj, as that's what cause you to dc, crazy part is you don't have to be the one to touch the chest to dc
Oh dam that has lower chance of happening good luck
All 3 platforms here 😅
Who let the mimic into the game 😭
I was 2 but one of them died
They be snatching bodies
Soulsgames player?
Ps isn't dead, they just don't have a built in lfg system like Xbox does
My ps4 died due to power cut out that what I meant
Nah but i can say I’m like 1/4 of a fan
Cool
Ah, I see
I can’t believe that I missed recruiter outfit by few hours literally gone as soon I finished my final exams lmao
At least I have Payday 2 outfits
It was free ?
No it was in shop for the week
HAAHHA I GOT IT
😄
well kinda but yes i have st elmos
If it was for free everyone just would use that like everyone would be twins
Congrats what are the attributes
crit hit damage
Your wallet is saved now
Max or what
9
Not bad what about weapon damage
Well a little optimization would fix that
Meh health not really a problem just get weapon damage to max
how 😭 i assume it has to do with the tinkering table
Ye
When you're just starting out, not really worth optimising, especially not when it doesn't have dtooc as the third stat
hell yess
And make sure to look good while doing it
Hey the bloody red outfit was in the store recently as well
of course
Literally the second mission we got into I got it 😄
Cool
this shock ammo is kinda insane
It's good cc for dps builds
Anyone on pc wanna help me with the friend referral thing ? 
The Division Resurgence has been cancelled as far as I know. Why do I still see it on the Google Play Store?
because it hasn't been cancelled
The other planned game was cancelled. Resurgance took it's place
Heartland iirc
they were both being worked on at the same time
But hey, they're working on Div 3....so who cares.....getting Div 3 before GTA VI? awesome.
If we get Div 3 before GTA VI.....that would mean the entire Division catalogue has been release in the gap between GTA V and GTA VI lmao
When you collect each of the items from killing all the hunters, do they become apart of the spawn pool or are they the only ones of their kind?
From the crates I mean with the keys.
you can buy them from cassie or craft them after buying the blueprints from the crafting vendor
Who's Cassie? Is she the girl in the crafting station area?
one of the vendors that appear after finding the snitch
Ohhh ok.
The4se clan missions are really boring....but easy at the same time lmao
"Kill True sons" "Complete True Sons Missions" "Complete Challenge MIssions" "Loot Equipment" "Break down Equipment"....
Great.....so that's me running Viewpoint for the next few days lol
Wait hold on
Isn’t heartland supposed to be Div 3 ?
Resurgence was supposed to be the mobile div right ?
No, Heartland was a F2p spin off
heartland was the survival focused spin off
Ah man
Pls no div 3 i still want to enjoy this game while it last
div3 is likely years away
Hey I bought battle for Brooklyn recently, after I created new char I’ve noticed that o don’t have watch points to spend on new character is it always syncing between characters now or if o go through warlords of new york(begin before lvl 40) will i still get watch points to spend on materials?
you should still have the watch points for stats but scav points are account wide now
as far as we're aware they're only in pre production and still hiring so its likely not for another 2-3 years at least
So even if I create char lower than 40 lvl (wony) I won’t get scav points?
correct you'll only have the amount you currently have on a character with a watch and if you spend them it'll be used for both characters
😦 okay thanks
A necessary evil to prevent resource farming
As usual, the few ruin things for the many lol
not even the few I'd imagine it was super widespread considering it was very much a why wasn't this done sooner deal
Ngl creating new 30 lvl char and getting it to 40 was much more pleasant experience than farming famous bounties to get resources for a week
It did not caunt teretory activity, 1 controll point east mall, try american history museum ok?
Territory activities are a specific activity denoted by two crossed guns on the map.
They're not control points, or missions.
They're random events
Im stuck did all 4 controll points, but it caunt 3
What control points? what are you trying to dop?
Manhunt....
Which one?
could just log out and back in....if you've done them that should fix it
I tryed, kettle do you know any issues regarding manhunt scout week 9?
What did you do for man hunt 9/1?
CPs count towards 9/1 but not towards 9/2 at the same time. So if you took a CP for 9/1....you would have to reset it for it to count for 9/2
Do 4 activities east mall, then play air space museum maybe thats last activity?
9/1 is do two activities in east mall...
Am i the only one who got server error right now ?
Which requires taking all 4 control points. WHILST on 9/2
Whats objective 2 then? I did 4 but caunt 3
not seen anyone else report any problems today
Objective 1 is to complete 2 open world activities.
Objective 2 is to take 4 control points (there are 4 in east mall. Metro Ruins, Sinkhole, Solar Farm and Crash Site)
Yes, but im stuck, it count 3 of 4
So....do another one?
Which, it has to be east mall
Did you do all 4?
Yes
Did you do all 4 WHILE 9/2 was active? Or was one taken before
No i did all 4
Then just reset and do another...tkaes like 5 minutes
just have to reset and start again, with luck you'll only have to do one of htem
It was the level 40 boost implementation that* killed mules, not the usage of mules
I hope they add some of the vests the NPCs in Brooklyn have as cosmetics or as gear items cause their vests look cool.
Yes it worked!
I have some music.....but not all
I fast travelled to NY then back and it fixed it
what does server shutdown imminent mean?
Nothing, it's a visual bug
Ahh shoot myf
for reall?
Did we ever lied?
I can't connect to the game at all, write mike_01
Would appear u got banned
not sure why you think that
I was joking lol
6000 hours played to get a ban. ok
lol
Hi I'm very new to TD2 and have no idea what makes a good build, Can anyone tell me what the difference incoming repairs and repair skills? Thanks.
Incoming repairs affects all repairs that affect you as the player.
Repair skills affect all skills you put out that repair others and yourself.
Incoming repairs is basically increased healing from others
Repair skill is increasing base healing from skills
Ok thanks guys
Sandwich
Not quite.
Incoming repairs is increased healing from ALL sources, including yourself.
hello fellow pea shooters. im considering buying the ny expansion. how much group stuff/content am i missing out on without the brooklyn dlc
You're missing a skill and one of the better exotics in the game.
If you want it, buy it. If you don't, don't.
It's essentially a single player game with multiplayer aspects if you so wish 😉
not all sources, just skills
Thankyou for the correction
as replied above, they both only care about repairs from skills, the difference is in whose skills they come from
practically, incoming repairs is a dead stat
cool ty dorky. im kinda looking to make friends just wanted to make sure i wasnt missing some kinda end game content
You're not missing end game content. But the Catalyst mask is awesome.
Anyone on Xbox
Likely lots of people.
Whether they're playing Division 2 or not is a different story.
Ok anyone on the division 2
you are looking for #lfg-xbox
Ok thank you
Are twitch drops still going?
yes, until the 29th https://thedivision2.com/payday-collab
Can anyone tell me how to level up my clan? Thanks.
Cool 😎
oh joy, a week of people coming here complaining about lag again? 😭
You need at least 4 members
Kenly is open so much lag
In that case, they should close Kenly until a solution is out
There is no ongoing global event , or something that started today?
This happens every single time kenly opens
Pretty sure you have to get people in the clan
There are lag issues for a lot of players whenever Kenly activity is open
Kenly is open?!
yes, 7 days of people coming here to complain about lagginess
Does it lag? I never had any issues with it. Although I only played it once.
Thanks guys, Only have 2 in my clan atm
yeah you got to start recruiting
i also believe they don't have to be active players either, you just have to have that minimum amount
I didn't think clans were very active.
When you want, you fix the hitbox of marauders, especially on Roosevelt
What's the kenley mastery thing you need to do to fill out one of the collectible things? Cause I grabbed all the collectibles the first time I was there. But there's a tab for the college that isn't filled in.
Replay the missions with the mastery option active and complete them within the time limits
With a bit of planning and research (for optimum pathing routes) it's not too bad. Weirdly also challenging is the highest difficulty
That's not too difficult
i suck so it'd be extremely difficult
Challenging I meant isn't super difficult.
Mastery is an entirely different ball game.
Summit directives are still bugged. Activating Hard To Earn causes ammo to behave similar to as if Pistolero is active, even if it's not. It's even more difficult than Pistolero because pistol kills do not consistently drop ammo. You CAN interact with ammo boxes but nothing happens. I thought they would fix this since global map directives were fixed. SMH
got a double exotic drop off of a hunter in countdown and it was what id targetted, does targetted loot give an extra exotic when an exotic drops? or was that just lucky
just luck
Luck
Hello everyone im searching some people to play with dark hours after 30 min
Is there some good players here ? Because im new
really looking for someone to join for general gring
LFG channels exist, if no luck there, i hear GCRock can be a goto but you can also look up your favorite content creator for a discord and try there as well
Okay thank you
So what I'm hearing is I'm gonna need a whole group to stand a chance?
considering your icon LFG Playstation is your best bet since there's no cross play for just "anyone"
And probably a better build.
I’m playing on pc too
anyhow use the LFG channels for that
You may have to check the roles to unlock the PC channels.
Ah Ty forgot about that
no, I managed gold mastery just fine solo, just need to watch a video walkthrough first to see the optimum routes as some of the areas are a bit of a maze. You'll also want a reliable way of doing lots of fire damage for a couple of the bosses
I think I'll try my best for a team first.
if I ran an extended magazine on a gun with mag size as an attribute would it be (base+extended)x1.125 or basex1.125+extended
What’s the driver of the 2X xp?
it's the first one
Yeah that sounds about right
Is the mag size attribute even worth anything? For most guns the 15% adds like 2-3 more bullets to the magazine
think the biggest mag size one can get is in a combo of 3 True Patriot, 2 Arca Buz + ninja bag honestly, but that's all that build has going for it and feels it's really not worth it in my opinion
Trying to figure out extracting components from weapons, Is this a passive buff or something I need to select, Appreciate any help and advice as it's confusing as hell 😭
The arcabuz one is pretty fun though imo, I used to run it with pakhan and got 270 in the max mag
I am cooking something stupid
Is that the max size mag you can get?
I wanna make something really stupid to run around with in pvp/dz
Unfortunate that there’s no way to throw a piece of zwiadowka in there
lol, praticaly similar amount but with Zwiadowkahttps://mxswat.github.io/mx-division-builds/#/CwDgtADJYEzVD5MQgXAdgIxO1TBWdZYlSDAZh2gIDYT61CrSWHVg7hE5Xfl38SHgxERUfCeNEkpEmWLlpFkIA
Why is Ourobours so heavily nerfed ?
The gun was so fun, only reason why I played the game tbh
it's not that deep
It is when you no life the game since it launches and you have nothing to do!
Man life would be so much better if this game didn't die on launch like instantly
@devs Hopefully lessons are learned for Div 3, no false promises, have an actual Endgame, be available on Steam, very simple.
Thank you.
lol, your mention got denied (> <)
Such a crybaby
We just got an expansion 6 years after the game was released specifically because the games community refused to die.
kinda wild how ouro nerf spirals into this
I'm crying man two dudes in DZ were talking to eachothers about killing me and my teammate thinking the voice chat was group only
so i shredded them 😭
i know right?
i was like, for a player that no lifed the game since launch, being that sad over a single gun nerf means they must have invested so much into the game and tried all different weapons and builds right?
you would think so, but whatever
Whats the current best way to get the memento backpack?
countdown challenging backpack target loot
Summit if you want to take your time
is Pestilence good
Yes
Why not on heroic?
of course if you like randomly going at it the Priority Objectives with exotic as reward
i just got one with CHD and one with mag size
You can do Heroic too if you have a more competitive build
i just stick to challenging for the speed you can run it and don't think i ever had a failure extraction yet
Is descent supposed to be difficult
it's very punishing yeah
No and no
bro when you're new to it you get destroyed
When you're new to anything, everything is punishing
Every other gamemode won't waste 30 minutes of your time for failing tho
Heroic difficulty and above
when i first started it i found it pretty hard, but now that i have all the extras and a better understanding of the mode it's pretty easy
i tend to do most of if pistol only honestly
Also with every wipe, hopefully there are lessons you can take away and improve on it in future runs
i learn nothing for future runs (> <)
Expansion I ended In one night, whoop de doo
Now that's just rude
Ok ... Point is the games not dead, the community is still here
Yes, at least something
was going to say, think Raucey meant after 6 years of doing manhunts we finally get a DLC which brought back people and new people
My original point with Ouruo was bcs like you said, game is 6 years old, who really cares if it's balanced, it's not like there's 1 million of active players daily.
Maybe not nerf the things existing players like ?? Whatever, I still somehow manage.
They don't update Division 1 anymore as far as I know
i think most people care if it's balanced, they're still gonna add stuff with updates, you don't them to have to powercreep existing op stuff to be interesting
i'm feeling Mr2Mato came here from Chinese division 🤔
and i'm no expert but the nerf seems like it kept the weapon very strong?
why
I guess ? Still tho, not the same
chinese division 2 videos i've seen seems to have no balance in it, think the Youtuber even said something to that effect
Didn't even knew this until now tbh
yeah, it's nuts what they have over there O_O
dude needs mortar in his life 
Lame gameplay
why, its not striker? 
there been so many nerfs... ill just say*, welcome to the club
now promptly get over it
A play style with a high skill ceiling is lame but Ouroboros which involves lazy shooting is not?
mortar gang rise up 
Yes, the good old 'play skilled things' argument. Amazing.
Except mortar is unlike the other skill builds 🙂
he doesnt know mortar 😆
yes, and complaing about 1 thing being nerfed then practically calling game dead at some point
its a terrible skill , no brain, just bang
I'll save my energy of experimenting for Div 3, not for a 6 years old game, I just want to have fun.
Hi guys how do yall go legendary with such ease
Play mortar, very skilled to play, free win.
You SOOL cuz Div 3 is still half a decade away
i let an average player carry me
That's fine, I have all the time in the world
i beg localdeck to carry me (> <)
for my favorite franchise
What stats does one want on Catharsis
asking cause the game just gave me a third one
oh is it always the same stats xd
im still waiting myself.. new week right? i havent logged. anything good at the vendors?
I know you're trying to be sarcastic but I did it
i didn't look. i went straight to descent (> <)
Guys i think i can’t get the stinger outfit in the referral program anymore 😭
Too big? Oh
only reason i got the ouro was to do a 2 strikers, 3 umbra Ninja bag to hear it scream at me with the pain it must've went through with an increased fire rate then it's been stashed
nods the outfit been replaced by the Insurgent one i think?
I can’t join as an invitee i think
neither can i aside the drive to get the named blueprints
i drive
They should let people choose the rewards set fr tho
sure you can, not sure how long it has to be though
Shd truck
Ryan Gosling
Shd rizz
Imagine shd technicians got us a mask to just disguise as other people like that skin mod in cp2077
what if i wanted to be disguised as that barber?
Must have immaculate hands i think
Do we have a channel for exposing cheaters ?
rules but you're going to a forum
otherise rule 12 which you didn't read rules apparently (> <)
Why is the Kard Custom in every build? I don't really get the point of it if the skill tier is only active when you draw it
I joined here 2, 3 years ago you expect me to remember all the rules xd
So no, tnx.
you put the pistol in hand to get +1 skill tier which you can get 1 extra charge for a revive hive
Only useful for teamplay then?
pretty much like you see me hugging the ground (> <)
there are links in #unofficial-troubleshooting pins for reporting cheaters, bugs, submit tickets. 1 stop shop
localdeck can tell you how many times they had to pick me up (> <)
idk why tho, my decoy was taking all the flak 
npcs sees a noob in me so they just focus me no matter what
aaaah the wiki is outdated on weapon mods
is there a good list somewhere
IMO we should have a public humiliation channel of the cheaters, let them be known. I played 1 game of conflict conflict after 2 years break and a cheater was in my game, amazing
imagine hacking this old game, that btw is 10/10 game, in every aspect.
that only creates a toxic environment for everyone. thats why there is a rule in place. keep it official, dont lower yourself to their level
yeah the problem with that is they change accounts so you don't see them again or if you do it won't be for a very long time in which they'd hope you forgot by then
You right
Would you guys say there is a lot of cheaters? In other modes too ?
I played Div 1 the other day it’s nice knowing it’s not ran by hackers, was very surprised ngl
hear about it and used to see a video in youtube "Undetected div 2 hack" and they're running incursion mostly
older games like old CODs are basically unplayable, people hack your pc
Damn talking about this i was in a conflict match the other day and there’s a guy just shot through buildings literally spawn camping us
nods saw another video of legti player getting shot through cover by a cheater in DZ
Same here, I had normal people screaming in voice chat too 🤣
But idc about it much it’s just pvp
But tbh tho
Why do yall even use cheat for ?
It defeats the purpose of playing a good game
in 7500 hrs, ive ran into 1 blatant cheater in pve. i dont do pvp tho so cant speak on that
Who even cheat on PVE 😭😭😭😭
Fr
kinda comical tbh... m700 carbon bulletking
some people are really bad so they would
ive matched with a lot of people in the time ive played... its not common in pve, at all
the times i've gone into countdown don't recall any cheaters honestly
same
Takes all the fun out of game if you do cheat
toxic players are a dime a dozen tho XD
ok thats stretching it, but there are some
My friend on Xbox actually received some distasteful messages after a countdown run 1 night, somehow managed to get into another countdown 2days later with the same dude so my friend just started dancing at every obj near the dude
people seem nice overall
he shoulda dropped a stinger hive during extraction 
I wasn't with him unfortunately, he's still a fair bit newer to the game
I got a lot of hate because I was taking almost all the stuff down or just hating on my standard striker build 
When I took a peek to their builds most of them were running full armor cores
they should collab with Armored Core
on pc i don't think i've ever seen any hateful things
If I'm by myself I run blue core strikers with sokolov intimidate and memento, simply cause I dont trust randoms to kill the hunters at extraction
Or survive extraction at that
you'd love me then, i'm always on the ground O_O
Failed main obj once cause I wasn't paying attention and no one else was doing it
I remember one time I got a guy to block me cuz I was melee baiting named elites lol
I always had fun making those people mad
I don't understand why people take the game so serious sometimes
makes you wonder doesn't it?
"Why so serious" lol
i read that in the heath ledger joker voice
😂
should i keep farming a setpiece until it has a perfect stat or should i just optimize
depends
is the setpiece a gear set? or brand set?
gear set
gear set comes with a core and random attribute, if you're keeping the core then i'd stick to max or nearly max core
brandsets can be rough since it's a core, 2 randoms and in the case fo chest and backpack you also have to consider the talent too
time to farm more striker in countdown ig
What set should i go with guys
There's many good builds but striker is a good start imo
if you're a fresh 40, 4 strikers, ceska chest with obliterate and coyote's mask, if no mask grupo mask will work as a start
Hmmm ok

could be harsh and be like 3 pc providence with Perfect Glass Cannon and normal Vigilence O_O
i did this but memento instead
shame we can't so something like a Exodus gloves and Memento combo O_O
wait, or would a exodus gloves + tardigrade combo be better?
what's tardigrade
Also guys
I looking for help for a friend referral stuff and the guy that offer to help me says that I’m not eligible to the invite
Exo chest armor
Exotic chest that when you or your teams armor breaks they get your armor as bonus armor. you can reset it by getting specialization kills
If you or an ally armour breaks, you get 80% as bonus. Spec kills reset the cooldown
Would it be good with umbra set tho ? 🤔
Why?
doubtful
that's cool, i was using zero F
I just think so
and no, umbra chest is BIS for umbra builds in general
Damn
i was just saying if only we could use something like tardigrade and exodus gloves in 1 build kind of thing, but thinking both goes off of armor breaking, both would probably go off at the same time and would make it pointless
Exodus is the one that drop smoke bomb right ?
