td2-general-chat

[gentle canyon]

i didn't even know they did resident evil, stopped playing bafter it first came out

[kind veldt]

RE had around 4-6 costumes

[jagged prism]

they even re-ran once apparently

[gentle canyon]

maybe for re9

[remote pecan]

I think twice, two different events

[kind veldt]

Leon, Jill, Chris, HUNK, Claire

it was the same items ran twice

[jagged prism]

2023?

[gentle canyon]

saying when it might run again silly

[kind veldt]

for another rerun when the new game gets announced or something

[ebon steeple]

they havent come back to fortnite in forever let alone division 2 lmao

[remote pecan]

they did a "last resort" rerun, too

[languid bay]

This game should drop a walking dead collab

Idk why but it feels right for this game

[ebon steeple]

i want more r6 skins, they didnt really get any good ones in the first 2 waves

plus its one of the few new skins that uses textiles for some of the items

[lime flume]

@jagged prism
i was super lucky and happy.
i got the iron horse rifle first, and then after three days, I got EB at level 151 season pass from Brooklyn cash.
i just joined the game on pc 2 months and i think the game RNG recognizes me as an old player on ps4 like 5 years ago😁
I had 3 eagle bearers on different characters

this is on pc now

[jagged prism]

about only exotics i've obtained were the exodus and oxpecker from memory so far

[gentle canyon]

random question but does anyone else think that roguegold guides are so surfacelevel that they don't tell you anything that is not already obvious? Every video i watch on something I want to know more about it tells me everything that anyone who knows how to read can figure out.

[tropic sentinel]

That's 99% of youtubers making videos in any game.

[gentle canyon]

nah there are a few good ones

[tropic sentinel]

Yeah that 1%.

[gentle canyon]

gcrock seems really good

[gray slate]

nobody told me u could should through walls in this game

[little fox]

Jill, claire, leon, hank, nemesis mask if you count that

Who else?

[gentle canyon]

did they do away with the DZ skill tree?

[jagged prism]

no pretty sure it's still there

[gentle canyon]

you have to go to that desk still or w/e?

[kind veldt]

chris and i don remember if we had rebecca

[little fox]

No we didn't get rebecca

[kind veldt]

we did get chris, i do remember a green uniform so it was either his or rebeccas

the weapon skins did bother me

[hybrid ore]

The weapon skins bothered you?

[jagged prism]

that link i posted showed all the outfits we got from Resident Evil

[kind veldt]

yeah just a sec cause i'm going ot the bakery

[blissful sable]

We got Rebecca Chambers as well.

I think it was one of the purple or blue clothing sets

[gentle canyon]

any other cool collabs in the past?

[jagged prism]

4 videos at top, Stalker 2 and Rainbow Six

one from crossover wiki showing 9 of them

well, 5 in division 2. 2 being the same thing though lol

Resident evil, splinter cell and S.T.A.L.K.E.R with the 2 Rabbids and Rayman being in division as a board game some place

[misty path]

you know what they'd give us if they loved us

dark zone Central Park

[little fox]

They never will

I thought about it too

But it will never happen

You know it, and so do i

[misty path]

it would be the perfect dark zone environment

[little fox]

They barred that idea since div 1

Comms found on the map say central park is now a mass grave

[hybrid ore]

I can't really picture a park being a good spot for a PvP free-for-all zone.

[little fox]

It wasn't even a containment zone

[misty path]

i think it'd be a fun thing to explore

and i think seeing a lot of instantly recognizable NYC landmarks in the dark zone was really cool in the first game

[little fox]

I expected a bigger dz in wony

[misty path]

yeah me too :/

[little fox]

But it's just not gonna happen

[hybrid ore]

WONY dropped in 2019, you need to move on.

[little fox]

They are allergic to the darkzone

[misty path]

i keep saying, it really bums me out that the dark zone feels like an afterthought in the division 2. i remember the cinematic trailer for the first game when it dropped like 10 years ago, and it seemed like the dark zone was a pretty crucial part of the game's identity

[little fox]

In div 1 there's nothing to do aside from dz and the dlcs

In div 2 there are many things to do, and as such the dark zone was set aside

[languid bay]

Everyone hyped countdown up to me and said its by far the best way to farm gear but i couldnt even find a match on hard smh

[little fox]

Oh i love countdown

[misty path]

do challenging, should pop instantly

[little fox]

When i get my hands on pc div 2 I'll be spending a lot of time on countdown

[dreamy skiff]

It's nostalgia for a lot of people. Most who started with TD2, prefer TD2.

[languid bay]

I’ve been waiting to play that mode bruh

[jagged prism]

yeah, noone runs normal/hard countdown XD

[little fox]

I started with td2 and i love both

[misty path]

i love countdown, but i wouldn't be particularly drawn to it if i didn't have something i was trying to farm for. the pve content all kind of starts to blend together for me after a while. the dark zone was what made this series unique

[dreamy skiff]

I love both, but for very different reasons

[little fox]

And it aches me that the division 1's dark zone is dead

Most of the time

[unique bramble]

And allergic to red diamonds also

[misty path]

make the dark zone great again fr

[jagged prism]

i'm still trying to get through your lore video for both div 1 and 2, but great work of what i've seen on it so far @dreamy skiff

[dreamy skiff]

You're probably further through it than me 😆

But thank you 🙂

[dreamy skiff]

Based on your user name, what do you think of her new character art?
I love it

[jagged prism]

nah, 36:38 so much information 🤯

[dreamy skiff]

A true labor of love. I just wish I had more time - that video could easily be 5 times longer

[jagged prism]

i can imagine, including your trip to massive probably opened up more lore you probably can't share yet? but you're like "THE WORLD MUST KNOW!!!!!!"

[dreamy skiff]

Yes and no, they kept a lot of that away from me 😆

[dreamy skiff]

I was like, "Why am I even here?? 😆 "

[jagged prism]

in other words they were briefed "keep an eye on NGN at all times" XD

[unique bramble]

The new Kelso's outfit looks like Kelso tried to buy Keener's hoodie on Amazon but couldn't afford it, so she bought a cheap copy on eBay.

[dreamy skiff]

I like the new super dark theme to her character. It's hawt!

[misty path]

i'm a fan, wish i could wear a hood over a hunter mask tho

[unique bramble]

We miss the div1 transmog

[jagged prism]

was she smiling at the end of the cut scene or did they just make her character look like that in general?

[dreamy skiff]

Oh I didn't notice that. I still need to watch it 100 more times to properly over analyse it

[hybrid ore]

she was smiling because she didnt have to explain why she ||murdered that random barber.||

im just saying, one line about it wouldve been fine

[little fox]

||It was a barber? I thought he was a doctor||

[hybrid ore]

Traditionally, they shared duties in the middle-ages.

history fact of the day! (mostly true, don't google me)

[unique bramble]

Btw, did you guys notice that ||the last voiceline we heard from Kelso was back in the Vanguard season: what do you say agent? Ready to see how far the rabbit hole really goes?||

[dreamy skiff]

HAHA I was going to say something about this, but you out-nerded me

[misty path]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=njfj6KwEAfg

this is the reveal i keep bringing up, and oh my god it's 12 years old

[jagged prism]

can't say. since my new speaker system my sounds has been iffy. sometimes the comms works great other times i see the subtitles and hear nothing but the game sounds still works

[dreamy skiff]

It was ahead of it's time a lot of those early promotional clips

[unique bramble]

That wasn't the point but ok

[misty path]

is it greatly exaggerated and not accurate to what the actual game ended up looking like? yeah. does it kind of imply the dark zone is a big part of the game's identity? also yeah

[hybrid ore]

she's been quiet for a while, the general hope is that the VA was just busy, because she isn't exactly able to fall back on a regular role like Lau's VA was.

[jagged prism]

like there's a part of me th inking she could be the whole mastermind behind it all kind of thing

[hybrid ore]

Let's go to #division-universe before I need to direct myself.

[hybrid ore]

@mellow mulch You're looking for #lfg-pc, GL Agent

[mellow mulch]

Wow, why is this not in the side panel, is this hidden?

[jagged prism]

i see it. i see safe house with a lot of channels under it, The division 2 with channel and TD2 Looking for Group with channels there

[dreamy skiff]

Oh whoops, I thought this WAS #division-universe 😅

[mellow mulch]

I created a mule account, joined my main account, playing lincoln memorial with 2 directives, For main account, I got around 1.1mil xp, but only 350k on mule account, anyone know why?

[jagged prism]

probably my fault seeing your name and people saying you're the goto lore expert and was like HEY!

[remote pecan]

it scales on your current level

[jagged prism]

i'm currently fighting the urge to recreate a new character to see how many milestone caches there are

[bitter wraith]

Why can't we get protective fabric from our watch? There's always something that they somehow fumbled.

Bigger tedious grind forming the most basic item in the game than farming the actual mats

Might axe getting max weave ngl too grindy

Yeah I'm not gonna bother

I'll stick to assessments lmao

[upbeat umbra]

Does group "signature ammo acquisition" in the gunner specialization also apply to yourself or just your other team members?

[kind veldt]

gunner only gives regular ammo to everyone, signature ammo for each player is individual and depends on their specialization

you are not giving more crossbow ammo to whoever has survivalist in your team

[dreamy skiff]

Not the go-to... just the noisiest one 😅
Which is weird. Because I'm typically a person who doesn't want to be seen or heard

[upbeat umbra]

Yoooo Lore man !!! Love your stuff in bringing this cool ahh game world to life through your retelling!

❤️

Group Signature Ammo Acquisition: "Killing multiple enemies without releasing the trigger adds 1 bar to group members' ammo bar, excluding the specialization weapon".

What about this tells you that gunner fills up group spec ammo? @solar harness

According to the description i wrote down above, it says it doesnt

[kind veldt]

oh guess i mixed up with a different perk, sorry

[upbeat umbra]

No no thats fine

[kind veldt]

supply line is the other one that grants everyone regular ammo

[upbeat umbra]

But im just wondering, does *Group Signature Ammo Acquisition" grant everyone regular ammo or not? this is so confusing, the description says "excluding the specialization weapon"

But wtf does it only regen ammo for specialization weapon then?

so no regular ammo regen on that talent, right?

[jagged prism]

far as i remember each specialization has a specific method in obtaining ammo for it, so i dunno if they do say when you do this you and other members get ammo for specializations as well

[lunar hare]

which spec?

[upbeat umbra]

is the "season pass project" weekly or daily?

[jagged prism]

i vote usual feature

[kind veldt]

i mean if it doesnt cover full revive from when the person is downed then it's quite bad honestly

[small spear]

it could be either but the fact that either it slipped through QA or is intentional makes it trash for me

yeah it was discussed earlier yesterday too

it's still not as known widely so i do repeat it time to time

they literally used legendary as the placeholder for master elsewhere too

[dry gate]

I'm really going to miss this heartbreaker build when the season is done.. I'm having sooo much fun with it.. heartbreaker + bluescreen..

[sick notch]

How do you do the final boss in darpa

The mortar spam is so annoying and I can barely shoot him when he's camping up on the roof

[dry gate]

I usually get closer to him as he has less tendency to mortar himself and then shoot right underneath him.. he will heal once fully and that's your moment to kill him .. sometimes he will jump down then it's easy.. but yeah, i usually go all the way up to him.. then clear the enemies around as he can't really shoot me easily since I'm right under him

there are a few missions that can be annoying with enemies hiding on the floor you can't get up on..darpa is one.. the other one is federal bunker about half way through.. enemies up on second floor are super annoying. but yeah, try to get close to him if he's staying up on top, that's usually what I do.. deactivate the machine gun turrets right off the bat, then clear a few enemies and press towards him

st. elmos is not a bad idea if you have it.. just for the shock rounds.. it will give you a few moments if he gets shocked to clap him

[mellow mulch]

Anyone know fastest way to level up mule?

[jagged prism]

DCD invaded with 4-5 directives on repeat until 40

[languid bay]

First countdown match i ever had was awful wtf was that

3 people left and everyone left failed everything and we died right at the end

[zinc sky]

Am i the only one who thinks that some grenades should've been linked to a different specialization than they are with now? Like, why is the incendiary grenade with survivalist and not firewall?

Why is the cluster on firewall and not demolitionist?

[kind veldt]

Released out of order

[torpid tendon]

I think Spice (i think that's how its called) grenades would make more sense to survivalist. Still would keep the same support role.

[dry gate]

IMHO 3-4 tidal basins (hit about 34), then do NY to 40 .. super quick and not as dry, if you have someone with open map for NY, you can just zip around quick to missions and clues and it will take you maybe 2 hours or so

I did 2 characters fully past 2 days

[jagged prism]

tidal basin is so slow though?
i've heard Invaded DCD is the fastest at like 30ish to 40ish minutes
i haven't done it honestly aside being a place holder for one person who was asking for it and before i can finish my own run they were already done

[dry gate]

I mean the best and fastest is invaded lincoln memorial from what I hear.. Tidal Basin though gives TONS of XP.. like I did level and a half every run

but maybe you are right.. I haven't tried DCD invaded

granted I had someone fully decked out so we can blast through Tidal super quick

[mild mauve]

the Harvest can still drop rn right from the loot goblin ?

[dry gate]

what's happening with servers today.. is anyone playing.. I'm yet to get a single person to join on me when I matchmake/call for help. Pretty weird.

[mild mauve]

what difficulty u trying to match make for ?

[dry gate]

heroic.. granted maybe it's skewed.. I was running a few invades on heroic

so possibly people were like nah.. I'm good

but honestly that was not the case before.. kind of really dry today.. wondered maybe they did some changes on server that causes it.

[mild mauve]

hmm yeh heroic should have worked for mm

lower difficulties is always harder to find people for

[dry gate]

funny I actually had a different experience so far.. on challenging and lower I get people almost instantly.. on heroic, invaded etc.. much rarer.

but today is especially dry.. literally nobody

[jagged prism]

could be a majority is done with all invaded already so now they're just probably focusing on other things in game

[dry gate]

could be.. but there are tons of good samaritans for sure.. now when I think about it.. I don't even hear "Agent calls for help" things too.. I usually help others as well. Nada, zip.

it's been very quiet today

[storm cove]

Hey,does anybody know how to draw out bountys?

[dry gate]

draw out?

[storm cove]

My bad,I meant to say how to draw out hostage missions?

[dry gate]

Still not sure what you mean by draw out.. you just go kill enemies around the hostages and you'll usually get a key to release them.. the public executions you just go and talk to the hostage.

[jagged prism]

think they meant making the hostage rescue spawn faster kind of thing

[storm cove]

yes that's it

I don't see any on my map so do I have to just wait for one to spawn or can I do a activity to bring one out?

[kind veldt]

just have to wait it out

public executions appear when the control point is red, hostage rescue when it's green

[jagged prism]

far as i know, gotta have control points you control on map and just wait it out and hope tehy spawn.
best way i think is making most of the map friendly

[storm cove]

Thanks y'all Appreciate it🙏🏾

[dry gate]

ah you need them to show up.. got it

[jagged prism]

hopefully chance you 're trying to take another control point it spawns XD

[dry gate]

honestly I had more luck dropping to challenging over heroic for them to show up more often

[upbeat umbra]

Do directives give more XP for activity completion or just the kills themselves?

[kind veldt]

also for activities

but only watch XP, not seasonal

[primal skiff]

Hello

[dry gate]

with OD.. only weapons get hollow point rounds with teammates right? not skills like turret etc.

[copper hamlet]

Is anyone having issues with matchmaking today? I didn't have any issues finding groups before the scheduled maintenance.

[kind veldt]

only weapons

some people reported crashing at countdown, outside of that nothing new

[dry gate]

yup.. it's been empty all day.. they've messed something up

not a single call for help from other people nor people joining on me

not a single person

so you are not the only one experiencing it for sure @copper hamlet

[copper hamlet]

That's good to know. I've seen one "call for help" all day. Been leaving MM on for Heroic missions and absolutely nothing. Hopefully this gets fixed.

[azure lintel]

Is the birdie backpack guaranteed to drop from master climax mission?

Do i need to complete all the scouts before I can even do the mission? 👉 👈

[kind veldt]

yes to both

[uncut thorn]

I just got into a heroic stronghold on matchmaking tbh

[dry gate]

someone joined on me finally as well.. after the whole day of noone.. I think they might have fixed it

[rose jolt]

Just saw the new brand set..

if you want to introduce a threat gearset + mosquito.. might as well buff behind you talent to 40% at least and perfectly behind you to 50% + put threat modifiers into tank sets

This will incentivize running tanks in group.. as it will feed into the ego of more damage is the only option crowed

Behind you talent falls short for what its promoting

[azure lintel]

Time to be a healslave again for lfg, I want the mask and the backpack

Ughhh but all the scouts, this is what i get for not playing weekly

[kind veldt]

I mean i only care about the new gear set because of regulus

[hybrid ore]

Thankfully, there's a cheat-sheet guide to what they all are online in various places, and most can be done within 10 or so minutes.

fun fact: a Control Point counts as 2 Activities.

[azure lintel]

I mean i guesssssss

[hybrid ore]

Capture = 1st, Defend = 2nd.

Saved me a lot of time in playing catch-up.

[azure lintel]

Meep, scouts isn't gonna be the hard part, its finding a group that'll do it and won't kick me ehe

[hybrid ore]

To help yourself out as well, make sure you do a few Public Executions/Hostage Rescues in the frequent zones, to build up your Bounty stock.

[azure lintel]

Bounty stock?

[hybrid ore]

You'll need Bounty completions to finish a lot of the Scouts, and if you get a new one whilst one is active, it gets "stored" for later.

[azure lintel]

Oh you mean bounties in general, okieeee~

[hybrid ore]

There's only so many slots though, so it'll look like you have say 3, in a zone, but finish one of those and it'll re-appear.

I once re-ran the same bounty 5 times.

[azure lintel]

I'll see how i progress then later in the week

[hybrid ore]

You'll be fine with no mic in the Master mission, just bring along a good strong build, and listen to what the team says.

As long as you contribute and don't die too much, you'll be good.

[azure lintel]

I have a pretty good hard wired set for my hive and chemmy, boosted with repair skill specs and mods, the refactor set looks cool too, so I might try that.

I'm also seeing how good heartbreaker is, so I might do a build with that as well.

Any tips for the 4 hunters? Would i have to swap my build since they can hack my hive?

[hybrid ore]

I've honestly only done it with a bunch of Strikers in the team, myself on OD.
it's hard to go wrong with a "bullet hell" build.

[azure lintel]

I’m new too the game if anyone willing to help me and teach me. Would mean a lot

[kind veldt]

if you want to mathcmake you can try the LFG channels #lfg-playstation , otherwise you can ask general questions about the game here or on #ask-td2-community

[azure lintel]

It says #noaccess for the LFG thingy

[kind veldt]

Theres a different channel for each plataform

You can probably see the PC onr

[primal skiff]

The prio obj are fastest way to get pass XP right?

Also if i am in a group and we do prio obj do all the members get said xp or only the one who had that obj?

[slim steeple]

matchmaking still seems wonky

[dry gate]

Just ask away here bud.. I started a few weeks ago and community here is active and will answer your questions. Play as you go, if you have a question, ask away here and we got you covered. No question is dumb, so whatever you find unclear ask here.

[hybrid ore]

However: to LFG, yeah gotta stick with the right place.

[hybrid ore]

Most of the time, "call for backup" works better.

[dry gate]

it's still wonky for sure.. but I get people here and there.. but nowhere close to what it was before the update.

[hybrid ore]

The trick with matchmaking, is that you need someone to be doing the thing at the time you want to try doing it.

[slim steeple]

haven't had any hits on call for back up

[hybrid ore]

as someone who's in a very quiet region of the world: that rarely works out.

[dry gate]

that's the thing.. it's not just matchmaking.. it appears their whole connectivity between users is not working properly. I have not heard a single call for help today and I've been grinding all day. Before the update, I would get a call notice every few minutes. Same with me triggering Call for Help for runs so I don't run alone.. nothing all day. I just had one person join an hour or two ago.. they must have some issues with pinging/networking.. I also noticed some of my friends were not showing too or would have like "Unknown Status"..

[fair oriole]

If you on now and wanna run something im down

[slim steeple]

yeah i'm down, is there anything you need?

[fair oriole]

Not really tbh im just bored lol

[slim steeple]

same

[fair oriole]

Add me RejectMyProject

[slim steeple]

sent

[fair oriole]

Joined

[grim verge]

Anyone got an Eagle Bearer from the Brooklyn Caches?

[alpine lantern]

no..

im on 163 stretch goals level and only got few exodus gloves and oxpecker..

[grim verge]

Damn…

I got the entire Kickflip apparel set, Carapace Scorpio skin, and the 5 Brooklyn patches, but no rare exclusive exotics to drop

I swear if I get an Oxpecker or Exodus, I’m gonna uninstall until Battle for Brooklyn comes out

[alpine lantern]

: )

[grim verge]

Seriously, all of us have a 0.5% chance of luck of getting an Eagle Bearer, Ouroboros, Ravenous, Bighorn, Regulus, and Provocator. Which is totally freaking STUPID.

I saw NothingButSkillz got a Regulus on his recent stream yesterday

Wonder if he gets the Eagle Bearer next

[hybrid ore]

RNGesus is a mean dude, you gotta start praying to lootcifer.

[grim verge]

What’s RNG?

[hybrid ore]

It's a gambling/video game term, means "random number generator/generation". Basically it means that what you're trying to obtain is a roll of the dice each time.

[alpine lantern]

random number generator..

[hybrid ore]

since div2 has no "rng protection", each time you open a cache, its an entirely new chance , as if it was your first.

[alpine lantern]

its a lottery, casino always win : )

[grim verge]

So, having rare exotics on a dice is my imagination

[hybrid ore]

Imagine that each time you open a cache, you are rolling a dice with however many sides as items are obtained within, but some of the sides are more likely to be landed on.
so you're playing against weighted dice, weighted against you.

It's like Apparel Caches are more likely to have lower tier items, rather than gold.

[grim verge]

I hope one day in the future the devs would add the Eagle Bearer, Ravenous, Ouroboros, and Regulus to the loot pool in Open World (DC, Lower Manhattan, Brooklyn), Countdown, and Summit

[hybrid ore]

Bighorn is included in this too; It would devalue their OG source too much, it won't happen whilst div2 is in active development.

maybe when div3 drops.

[grim verge]

You can get the Bighorn on Legendary Summit as well

I would imagine an exotic ACR assault rifle concept?

[undone timber]

You can get them from the activation caches and a select few from the dark zone

Works fine like that tbh

[grim verge]

I doing the activation caches but Dark Zone? Nah. Not without a Xbox Live Gold membership or playing on PC.

Besides that, I want the House exotic SMG from the Division 1 to come back with a new design but keeping the same talent (Card Counter)

[hybrid ore]

Clarification: you can only ever get it from the DZ itself, or Named Enemies in Legendary.

not just "summit" in gneral. Which is what makes it so sought after, outside of the PvP uses.

[grim verge]

Eagle Bearer and Ravenous are in the DZ as well but they are rare af

[dim tree]

They are meant to be rare, if the drop was so common then what's the point of doing raids/incursions?

[grim verge]

Clarification: there is only one incursion. We haven’t got any future incursions since Puppeteers

[dim tree]

ouro drops

and it aint that deep

[abstract rapids]

Hello

[dim tree]

We got our grammar police here

[abstract rapids]

I have a question: did someone managed to beat solo the 4 hunters on kelso Climax Mission (on Master) ?

[hybrid ore]

0.02%.
i was talking about Bighorn though.

[dim tree]

Yes I did

[hybrid ore]

referring to them as the "incursions" does look like you're confusing div1 and div2.

[grim verge]

What’s the drop chance of EB and Ravenous in the DZ?

[hybrid ore]

0.02%

[abstract rapids]

Which build did you use or do you have some tips ?

[grim verge]

Same as Bighorn?

[hybrid ore]

bighorn/eb/rav. all the same.

and its not altered by TL

[dim tree]

I mean there was no talk of Div 1 I replied to his messages which clearly meant about Div 2 and I said raids aswell and there's no raids in Div 1

[hybrid ore]

In case you ever wondered why we say not to bother farming for them in the DZ.

[hybrid ore]

I have to remove about 6-10 essages per/day that look for the div1 incursions in the very clearly marked div2: #lfg-td2incursion-pc

[grim verge]

I think the Chameleon exotic is better than the EB

I got a god rolled one myself

[dim tree]

Striker 4 piece, Memento, Chill out mask with 4 pfe. Use a scorpio and lexington if you have it or you can substitute it with a famas with strained

I'll send you the ss of the build

[dim tree]

Yeah I mean it's my mistake aswell. I type way too fast so I just type "incursions" in a flow.

[abstract rapids]

I used a 6 cores regen pfe and tried out a striker memento but not using pfe

[hybrid ore]

Really not a big deal, it's worth double-checking though, which is advice I never take myself lol.

[dim tree]

Yeah fair enough.

[dim tree]

I use memento but I dont collect all the trophies when I'm at full stacks I save some up when the hunters spawn so if I'm low I can pick it up and deal more damage + bonus armor

[abstract rapids]

I have Chill out

And Lexington with DTTOOC

[languid bay]

If i switch my world tier to heroic and open caches will the rewards get better or will they default to the heroic difficulty im already at? Or does that not even matter for proficiency caches?

[hybrid ore]

Proficiency Caches already scale to near-Heroic tier, there's no change if you change the difficulty.

[languid bay]

Dangit

Thought i could outsmart the system😭

[swift temple]

This is getting silly with my unluck. I am like tier 180 in season now. Not a single "exclusive" exotic from the caches 😦

[tropic sentinel]

Just run the content that gives them normally.

[brave dirge]

who knows when can pre order dlc?

[swift temple]

Running raids and Darkzone isnt really my thing. I do already have the Ouroboros.

[undone timber]

It's like a .5 percent chance

I wouldn't count on getting even one

If you really want them, get them the proper way

[tropic sentinel]

Well if you would make it your thing and spend the same amount of time it took to farm those caches, you would probably already have multiple copies.

[brave forum]

Can five friends party up and play together or is max 4?

[dry gate]

4 player is max in normal activities. The ones that allow more players are countdown and raids from what I've seen.

[brave forum]

Damn it one thing said four one said 5 damn was hoping for 5 lol

[tropic sentinel]

There are games out there with bigger party limits.

[brave forum]

Na duh lol

[tender wave]

With a 0.5% drop chance you can expect an average of 1 per 200 crates.

[dry gate]

i'm actually surprised it's even 4 in the squad tbh for most levels and open world. Most games in this style usually actually have 3 player party.
tldr if you are interested to understand the complexity;

Personally knowing how these games are built and infrastructure, level designs would have to accomodate more people in a squad, including open world, which would be far more strenous for optimization as well.. The amount of detail they put into the world, I would say that's really where the bottleneck is and how levels are loaded and designed. When they designed the raid and countdown maps, since players load into that level alone it's easier to manage that activity a bit more freely for everything (from network connectivity, graphical and memory performance as well as something we call in the multiplayer dev "network replication"). It's not just that devs have to optimize the map from gameplay standpoint for 8 people, but also everything you do in your game, has to be transfered to the server so everyone else on their game clients can see it as well.. So, in short, it's a lot more demanding to make games with more players in a squad, from both level design to actual network and performance.

[zinc sky]

Am i the only one who's bothered by the fact that we can't unfold Ouro's stock?

[dusk prawn]

isn't it supposed to be the gun eating itself just like ouroboros?

[elfin hazel]

https://trello.com/c/CYRIuIDY

Trello

Y7S1 PTS - Developer Notes

Hello Agents,

Thank you for providing detailed feedback on Y7S1 PTS. We’re very happy to be entering Year 7 of content, and we hope to always count on your help to identify areas for improvement in our updates. We've analyzed your responses and would like to share some insights and outline the next steps in the process.

** SUMMARY**
...

👀

a lot of text for the scav points

In the long term, we want to enhance the experience of collecting and spending materials so that becomes a more meaningful and rewarding part of the game. We are evaluating how this system will be reworked with a possible reduction of Expertise costs, and our goal is to roll out the update within Y7. We'll keep you updated and continue to listen to your feedback as we work on these changes.```

also master hunter mask added back to investigating?

[winged wolf]

Yo question just returned to game what’s go to build for ad clearing? Like a countdown build?

[elfin hazel]

standard red dps or strikers

[undone timber]

Honestly good on them for actually trying to improve the health of the game

[elfin hazel]

thats what I'm sayin

also unsurprising that streamline is being nerfed

no idea what to but its being reduced

[undone timber]

80 percent basically unconditional weapon damage is nuts

[elfin hazel]

I get the idea of going higher so you can bring it down to earth but like thats so high 😭

[remote pecan]

I just wish they would have added all the points together from all your chars and set it globally. Not to force-spend them.

[spice tide]

hello

[remote pecan]

try the #lfg-pc channel

[lofty coyote]

omg just found a High end mask that is 80K armor Level 40 mask, im only level 12 😭

[spice tide]

got no access

[elfin hazel]

get a platform & game roll from id:customize

[ebon steeple]

Really wish they gave us numbers in the pts feedback changes

[true cypress]

Hi player's. I intend playing more D2 shortly, as I presume, we all know, we play other games and other games get neglected in my case only for a short while but, in my case, I will be back. I loved, yeah that's kind of the right word I will use to describe my experience of playing D2. I really enjoyed backing one or two of you up!
So I will see you soon.
Good luck agent's and love.

Out.

[wild gate]

Thinking people spend money to stay competitive might be the most confusing thing in that write up

[elfin hazel]

not really

[wild gate]

when was one spent money to be competitive in mats

[elfin hazel]

DLC is paid and gives a L40 boost which may as well be free mules

and theres this very wrong idea thats super prevalent that you NEED to be max expertise

which would create an idea that L40 boost/DLC is P2W

[unique bramble]

Time to stock Scavenger resources like you are in the supermarket on March 2020.

[wild gate]

still not clicking, it’s a far reach, imo it just says they aren’t understanding 100 percent how boosts are utilized. Even if they didnt add the 40 boost who said someone can’t look at the 30 as the same thing?

[elfin hazel]

a L40 boost would be even worse for the games health than the L30 boost already is

I doubt that many people are doing it in 30 minutes but even 1-3 hours going down to like a minute is obscene for mules

[wild gate]

not saying it isn’t, im just saying the argument for it isn’t the right one and doesn’t clicks

if they’re saying they didn’t want people paying for boosts then why is the 30 still there knowing it’s exactly that?

[elfin hazel]

its not that people are paying for boosts its what the boosts do

[weak umbra]

Will the overcapped resources be removed or remain untouched after the dlc?

[tender wave]

#lfg-pc is the only place to ask, now you have the platform role.

[elfin hazel]

untouched I would assume they've only mentioned scav points being overwritten

[wild gate]

again, I get the point but saying it’s paying for a boost is insane when that’s essentially what you’re doing when buying the 30 boost from wony

[elfin hazel]

the point isn't the boost its that the boost (currently) gives tons and tons of mats

boosting to l40 is fine it's intended to bring players to the end game but boosting to level 40 + many scav points becomes a problem

the level is irrelevant the materials are what matters

[fair lake]

But devs won't wipe overcapped resources. It's funny that you xan literally grind 4000000/999 resources and be fine with it. Why can't they extend 999 to, let's say, 9999? Servers seem to hold just fine

[elfin hazel]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[unique bramble]

In the short term, what we’ll do is multiply the value of the resources you can get with Scavenging Points by 3
At least low SHD will not be so screwed by this.

[elfin hazel]

I doubt that many people people are farming to that level anyways

I don't think low SHD was affected much in the first place anyways

[dull cypress]

so are they turning nimble into kneepads instead of a holster?

[elfin hazel]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

no clue

[wild gate]

in terms of alts yes they are, doesn’t matter how many changes happen playtime and SHD levels will always be first

[dull cypress]

I mean since they're boosting scav point earns im pretty much fine with it (might spam some mules later to get my expertise up)

[tropic sentinel]

Interesting choice to boost it only 3x when you could have 4 chars earning them passively.

[tender wave]

They want them to be harder to come by than previously

[elfin hazel]

3 SHD Cal / 6 Field Recon 👀

but also like 5x exp events give a lot so its not like scav points will be completely utterly useless never even bother land

[tropic sentinel]

If they want to actually make it better, add exotic mats to SHD claimables.

[elfin hazel]

no.

I don't think they should just give out exo parts its nice to have something to actually grind for

[tropic sentinel]

You could not claim them then and do your grind.

[remote pecan]

it like the 50% chance of apparel caches, a lot of ppl complaint and they changed it to every 4th cache instead
(now in the extended pass they did a 50% chance again)

[elfin hazel]

the option shouldn't be there in the first place prio objectives are good enough honestly

[low lily]

It's nice to grind for gear and weapons not 1 material what is needed to upgrade them honestly

[elfin hazel]

the 1 material comes from grinding gear & weapons ¯_(ツ)_/¯

and as always expertise is borderline meaningless most of the time its not something I think anyone needs to have at the ready from their watch

[tropic sentinel]

Or everyone should have option they like.

[remote pecan]

if they rework prio objectives to work with group play in a coop shooter, I'm fine with the current system

[elfin hazel]

its such a hassle I know buying a live service game with a gameplay loop based around grinding for stuff and having to grind for stuff

[tropic sentinel]

They have mentioned that at least journey should count now. So there is hope for that.

[remote pecan]

yea a lot of times it seems like they have group play in mind, but then forget it completely in a different scenario

[tropic sentinel]

I don't think I have a single friend that bought this game specifically to grind.

[elfin hazel]

they still bought a live service game built around having to grind

its part of the gameplay if you like it or not thats the hook thats it retains players

[iron gust]

Hoping the exotic kneepads are a typo, since in the pts it was a holster

[elfin hazel]

you add new gear for people to grind you add upgrades to gear you add ways to upgrade gear stats its all built around grinding

[tropic sentinel]

Yeah imagine if game would keep playerbase around through content instead.

[low lily]

Well checking the % how much people actually finish the story and stuff I wouldn't really say majority people buy it to grind 🤣🤣🤣

[low lily]

100% agree

[elfin hazel]

I'd hope nobody buys it just to grind but even if they do or don't the gameplay loop remains the same

[elfin hazel]

I wouldn't go into a live service game expecting this like ever 😭

especially not 7 years into it when it's been clear for a few years now that we're never going to be getting frequent new missions or new content even more so now that we know div3 is in the works

[remote pecan]

it's about valuing your time in the right manner, there needs to be a right balance

[iron gust]

We clearly see that with the 0.5% drop chance

[tropic sentinel]

That's not even the worst part. Imagine being someone who actually goes on those websites to buy stuff.

[remote pecan]

you can get a Regulus, you had to play the raid for multiple weeks to craft it
in that case I think it's more than fair

[low lily]

The .5 isn't that bad

[tropic sentinel]

If people actually want to get it through caches, then it is pretty bad.

[low lily]

Also helps if you have that bug that you get like 3-15 caches per lvl with some crazy reason

[iron gust]

It's not bad but I don't think it's balanced either
What's the point of it at 0.5 other than padding game time
Keep it exclusive or don't but it's stupid low
99.5% chance of not getting any exotic

[remote pecan]

these are raid exclusives and now you can get it from a different source, too
that's how you should look at it

[tropic sentinel]

They should do some raid event instead, where chances are raised like 10x. More fresh meat would come over.

[remote pecan]

or just raid, find a group
it's 10% for the box per char and if everyone else in the group already has those exotics, your chances are pretty high to get one, doing only 1 raid

[iron gust]

I look at it as "how many caches do I need to open to get one of the exotics" (could be a Provocator 🤣 )
If we're talking 200-300 I dunno sounds silly

[remote pecan]

some ppl never played div1 it seems

[iron gust]

Lol I still play div 1
It's not exactly a good example of a good endgame progression

[remote pecan]

look I'm not into gatekeeping, but I did 8 weeks of raiding with 4 chars each week when DH came out 'til I got my first Eagle and we were speedrunning at this time, Eagle Bearer was BIS (or at least really, really good) so our performance was dependent on that
raiding with the current gear sets is easier than ever

[quiet heath]

what is reaper scan?

[remote pecan]

and they always said they wanted those exotics raid exclusive, now you have different sources and still be mad

raiding can also be fun

[low lily]

Yeah but after so many years does it really matter that exotics should be locked behind raids or content what requires 8 people

[tropic sentinel]

Modifier.

[quiet heath]

for pulse scan?

[iron gust]

Descent is also fun, do you agree that blueprints remain exclusive there?

[remote pecan]

that's my point they aren't anymore

[ebon steeple]

raids are still the best source, all the others are lottery levels of rng which i like. Doesn't completely devalue the existence of the raids

[tropic sentinel]

Yes equip it and then pulse the mobs. Progressing that task is super wonky tho.

[low lily]

And imo at this point they should be in ordinary loot pool

[iron gust]

Raids need a reward revamp tbh

[low lily]

And legendary difficulty or something

[inner elbow]

1 exotic component per clear

[iron gust]

Not 4-5 vets carrying exotic drive by chasers

[tropic sentinel]

More like 1 comp per boss at least.

[ebon steeple]

once a week the lootpath spawn at the end should each drop a exotic

[inner elbow]

Trainyard farm

[iron gust]

Should be like 20 exotic components per week per account
40 for both raids

[remote pecan]

yea I kinda think the same

[inner elbow]

you know people don't like getting limited

[iron gust]

Raid keys say hi

[low lily]

You can still farm last bosses for key no?

[tropic sentinel]

I guess they could put them to key boxes instead then.

[inner elbow]

yeah but experienced raiders don't complain about them, we're talking about minmaxers who have nothing to do

[iron gust]

Put descent blueprints in there 🤣

[low lily]

Please yes

[inner elbow]

in raids?

[iron gust]

Yes

[low lily]

Ye, I will delete the game before I do more descent

[inner elbow]

nah, would make people hate Descent less

[ebon steeple]

kinda funny ppl don't beg for different ways to get the descent exotic

[iron gust]

Well it's been completely neglected
You can't even reconfigure it

[low lily]

Because it's bad

[ebon steeple]

i had to wait like a week or 2 for a DTTOC copy

[slate fractal]

Never done descent, maybe ill check it out today lmao

[tropic sentinel]

Because you can solo descent I guess.

[ebon steeple]

yeah but ppl think its "hard" and refuse to play it

[tropic sentinel]

Well every other youtuber is not putting that rifle to their "builds" either.

[ebon steeple]

cuz rifles are uncomfortable to use and instead of the devs adding a hold to fire setting they added auto fire to select rifles

[iron gust]

I'm honestly surprised people haven't complained more about the exclusive blueprints in descent

There's a huge number of named item blueprints in there

[ebon steeple]

tbf just crafting ur loots kinda cringe so locking it behind descent balances it out

like when a metas shift i dont bother crafting the new meta gun cuz seeing replica in the name just reminds me its cheating

i only farmed descent blueprints so i could get a godroll matador for PvP

[iron gust]

Yeah but loot chasing is ruined with countdown dropping all that loot in one run

[ebon steeple]

one runs a stretch, unless my rng is bad cuz i farmed a few countdowns for a dttoc 1886 and didnt get one

[tropic sentinel]

Most people who reach the point to care about those bps, probably can run descent by then. In the end nowadays the biggest issue in MP games is that most people do it solo, never make friends etc. So raids is more "problematic" to them.

[iron gust]

Blueprints are nice for unicorn like items, the setup for example

Farming for that would be a lot of pain

[ebon steeple]

yeah like the matador that i said was my motivation for descent

and the rng gods knew it cuz it was one of the last blueprints i got

[iron gust]

Yeah RNG always knows
That amounts of mats I wasted for the right setup

[ebon steeple]

the amount of mats i wasted to not get a good henri

[tropic sentinel]

Didn't setup BP drop from checkpoints? At least it was temporary bug.

[ebon steeple]

thankfully kingbreaker isnt meta anymore

[iron gust]

Think it was or still is in the descent BP pool

[tropic sentinel]

Well now it is, but I had it before descent was a thing.

[ebon steeple]

kinda wish chests and backs had 2 recal slots

[tropic sentinel]

Everything should. Just increase the price for more slots or whatever.

[remote ledge]

why does it take so long to get matched?

im in asia server i waited 20 mins and got no one

[ebon steeple]

ive been hearing about problems with matchmaking but idk if theres actual problems, im on downtime til next season

[remote ledge]

seriously been 20 mins and yet to match anyone

[late finch]

So what I get from the patch notes from the PTS, is that is best to spend all your point BEFORE the DLC is released.

[remote ledge]

just a mission pentco powerplant

[leaden plinth]

Hello anyine can. Help me or ezplain i try to stack the acomulation but its always in first bar whatevwr i do

[ebon steeple]

we already knew that, what we know now is to overcap our materials by loading a mule full of resources and merging it to the other charcters

[remote ledge]

well even if i try to do summit i still dont get matches

[late finch]

I understand that. What I am asking is should I spend ALL my resources before the EOM? All of my mules are at max.

[remote ledge]

hard

[remote pecan]

just get credits from your scav points

[ebon steeple]

what im saying is dont get the resource merge until u stuff ur mule full of resources then buy the resource merge and you'll go over cap on resources im around 4,500 on all my resources cuz im overcapping with mules

[tender wave]

You can also craft a bunch of optimisation mats if you're not full on them

[late finch]

Got it

[ebon steeple]

or 45,000 on the 9999 materials

[leaden plinth]

Any help wirh the journey where i need to stack lvl 2 acomulation and keep it 60 second i cant get the 2 stack i dont know what im doing wrong

[ebon steeple]

idk if grinding journey is worth 2 weeks before it resets

[leaden plinth]

So its not stay here?

[ebon steeple]

it resets each season and new seasons in 2 weeks

[leaden plinth]

Mean the bonuses what u can get like modificators

[ebon steeple]

those too reset

well replaced is a better term

we get new modifiers each season that replace the previous seasons modifiers

[kind veldt]

You have to reach and mantain at the level its asking

[leaden plinth]

I tough i can be stronger forever with that 😄

[ebon steeple]

nope just stronger in the season its in, last season i didnt even touch modifiers cuz the modifiers were terrible. This seasons was way better for my playstyle and idk much about next seasons

[leaden plinth]

Ooh okay thank u for explaining very much

[wheat pulsar]

Ran master last night with a random group killed the Hunters and still no mask.

[valid sable]

i'm usually just running Striker or Hunter's Fury cuz im basic, but last night I tried a sniper rifle with like 200% headshot damage in a challenging mission solo and it was so much fun!

[leaden plinth]

Is possible to drop matador backpack from power plant ?

[raw minnow]

No, can only get in DZ or from named caches. You can grind countdown though for the currency and then open Named Caches from Countdown vendor

[leaden plinth]

Oh okay thank u

[simple spoke]

guys orbit is only DZ exclusive or?

[tender wave]

Yes, you can also get it from named caches, conflict caches, tiny chance from legacy manhunt targets. Also small chance that the countdown s shop will sell it at some point

[tropic sentinel]

You can also play descent and get a blueprint. Although chances are you won't like the process too much.

[void thistle]

I want to ask the division two community a question for the life of me. I have farmed the summit, legendary for directors and have many big horns and all other things, but I cannot find. The Strega
It’s a part of the general loop pool so what am I missing?

[leaden plinth]

Any good farm for carbohydrate ?

Polycarbonate*

[tender wave]

The area around solar farm cp has a ton load of resource crates you can visit each day.
If you check the material description it'll tell you which enemy faction drops it the most too, so you can go farm their areas.

[tender wave]

Possibly they didn't add it to the general pool yet.
Otherwise there's nothing to do but keep farming ARs.

[void thistle]

Oh my gosh well alright guess that’s that
back to farming

Thank you

[valid sable]

What are the most hard to get exotics in the game? I wanna know if I have some of those without knowing

Eagle bearer, ouroboros, regulus and ravenous... am I missing other?

[elfin hazel]

I would just say regulus

[kind veldt]

thosre are the big ones i would say

[elfin hazel]

all of them are "easy" to get including regu but it's locked behind a project so it takes a tiny bit longer

[kind veldt]

even big horn is drasticly easier to get after summit was added

[iron gust]

Quest guns, chatterbox, liberty, nemesis
Also exotics not in the loot pool for w/e reason strega oxpecker

[kind veldt]

wouldnt call them hard to get

[tender wave]

Provocator, Birdies and bighorn are the other somewhat restricted ones

I guess arguably ruthless and lullaby too

[iron gust]

Yeah they're not hard, just having to do the quests but it's just waiting and following a guide

But what else is there

[elfin hazel]

they're not hard but I would consider them tedious

I think the projects for exos should stay but I do find it a bit weird that chatter & liberty are still behind projects going into y7

[tender wave]

I guess vindicator also falls in the 'tedious' category

[elfin hazel]

seems like something that'd be removed ages ago now

nemesis I can understand given its a bit more involved and tied to a form of endgame but those two just strike me as odd

[valid sable]

yeah, i have NONE of the things you guys have mentioned lmao

[iron gust]

I like it tbh some world building and different way of getting them
Just the game doesn't do a great job of telling you about how to get the pieces
Dodge holster project is cool with the bosses with cowboy hats

[elfin hazel]

I can only imagine how the game would try to explain how to get the chatterbox 😭

[kind veldt]

i remember liberty gives clues on each new piece

dont remember if chatterbox does the same

[elfin hazel]

go place and pray you get the drop chance for the piece 🔥

[iron gust]

Imagine them tying the season exotics to pieces in the manhunt
🙃
Force people to play the manhunt

[kind veldt]

i mean doctor home and bluescreen were originally manhunt rewards

[elfin hazel]

🔥

I would be happy actually

it'd get a lot of people off their ass to do the scouts

same with tying it to journey rewards

it seems like theres been an uptick in the amount of (vocal) people who just dont do the manhunt until the end since the manhunt rework

never made sense to me especially if you're playing every so often you may as well do them they go by very fast

[iron gust]

It would definitely be a nice change of pace, instead of it just dropping as a reward in the season pass

[kind veldt]

it was something else, the seasonal ones were also there

so it was 3 exotics per season like we have now

[valid sable]

I got 2 doctor homes, from caches

[inner elbow]

The stretch goals really exposed how many never bothered to do raids/incursions and are slaving their life away to get the exclusives to drop at an abysmal rate

[elfin hazel]

I wouldn't agree

[kind veldt]

i do agree

not that much

[elfin hazel]

its always been super clear that the amount of people who've done the raids is like 0

[kind veldt]

but i dont think raids are easily accessible in game

[elfin hazel]

its just that a lot of people have a view that of course people have done the raids they're easy! so seeing people go I wanna get the raid exos comes as a shock

[kind veldt]

discovery mode is bad and at this point i would remove it

does more harm than good

[elfin hazel]

please add matchmaking to the raids 🙏

[inner elbow]

Please don't

[kind veldt]

i think the incursion hit a better spot for difficulty with randoms

[inner elbow]

8 blind mice

[kind veldt]

i think it could work with DH but not IH

IH i felt like overkill of mechanics in the wrong way

[elfin hazel]

it worked for the first clear ever they shall suffer and learn the same 🔥

as easy as looking in discords is I just want it because one of the main factors for NOT having it was just them going lol go to our official discord for it!

[inner elbow]

Implying that people will stay after a wipe

[kind veldt]

and then add speedrunning strats being considered normal so people learn less how to do a regular clear over just being carried in speedrunners group

[elfin hazel]

matchmaking into an ongoing raid would be crazy 🔥

[elfin hazel]

which was poor excuse then and even more so now that we dont have VCs anymore

[kind veldt]

i dislike a game saying "use discord bro"

[inner elbow]

Imagine loading into the furnace at Fieser

[elfin hazel]

I don't think it'd be nearly as nightmarish as anyone is thinking

[kind veldt]

IH would be nigh impossible

[elfin hazel]

it'd be awful but like I can't imagine it'd be a nightmare so long as you have one person who knows somewhat on what to do

[kind veldt]

DH is fine

thing is that it requires more than one person being smart

[elfin hazel]

true true

[kind veldt]

discovery you can solo carry everyone

for DH

because you just need one person doing mechanic

and isnt punished with a wipe or anything

IH has too many moving pieces that you cant control with randoms

[elfin hazel]

I think at this point you could probably put tutorial hints for the mechanics of the raids

[kind veldt]

i think you should keep the mechanics but simplified and with tutorials on discovery since it comes later

but we dont get that and instead get fake gameplay that doenst actually teach you anything

[elfin hazel]

one day perhaps 🙏

[iron gust]

Raids/incursion have no incentive for people who already have the exotics
Not even an exo cache lol
Raids are rather old content, I dunno what they can do
FTC's come for the exotics and stop raiding once they get the exos

[elfin hazel]

I like looking at IH level design ☻

[kind veldt]

i do think that the incursion is still fun purely to replay once or twice

[elfin hazel]

thats my incentive

I think its by far the best designed place visually in the game its extremely pretty

[kind veldt]

DH got simplified currently due power creep, and IH is a mechanical mess made too hardcore for the sake of complexity i think

[elfin hazel]

DH too simple so we have to go complex as hell

[vapid turtle]

Nimble holster turned to nimble knee pad?

[elfin hazel]

I feel like I remember complaints about DH being too simple when it got released but its also been 6-7 years 😭

[kind veldt]

dunno if it's typo or not at the moment

[elfin hazel]

nobody knows ATM ¯_(ツ)_/¯

[brave forum]

Is dark zone pvp still active or any type of pvp? On PC

[vapid turtle]

So stupid 😂😂😂 either way. I still have a build if it's the same

[feral mural]

Kneepads gaining yet another niche use exotic?

[tender wave]

My vote is on typo.

It was a kneepad talent in div 1 iirc

[undone timber]

matchmade raids would be an absolute train wreck

[elfin hazel]

my vote is also on typo what with how they talk about nostalgia at the end of the notes

[feral mural]

That is... A really good way to describe Iron Horse

[kind veldt]

it's kinda funky how most the masks just keep winning

[feral mural]

Abridged, Coyote, Vile

[elfin hazel]

1000000000000000000000000000% but I think it should be more accessible in game either from matchmaking or actual explanations of mechanics

theres gotta be SOMETHING if they're going to be so focused on bringing players back to the game

[iron gust]

Iron horse absolutely
Dark Hours? Not so sure

[kind veldt]

in perfect world discovery mode would be now a tutorial, and after X amount of clears it unlocks matchmaking for regular

[elfin hazel]

TRUTH NUKE

[kind veldt]

we just melt the bosses so fast in DH that half of their mechanics can be ignored

[valid sable]

it is pretty lonely, it seems everybody is just grinding Countdown non-stop these days

[feral mural]

honestly just make it a requirement to clear discovery once before you go into Normal

and have an actual tutorial. not just half ass it by explaining what the enemies and bosses can do

[elfin hazel]

how I be looking at the random shooting the boxes with a scorpio in iron horse

[kind veldt]

dont agree with that because currently discoery IH just skips fights if you take too long and doesnt teach you anything

[brave forum]

Damn that sucks big time

[tender wave]

There are shd brackets, you'll find more players when you're shd 1000+

[valid sable]

oohhhh got it, i'm just level 200 ish maybe thats why

[iron gust]

Try conflict

[undone timber]

if they made discovery more of a training ground it would be a lot nicer

keep the mechanics water down hp and damage maybe add dossiers for each encounter

[brave forum]

That's pretty active? just bought the game last night me and my girl gonna start from the beginning but hoping I can do some type of pvp

[undone timber]

not that people bother reading but yknow

[elfin hazel]

I'd hope for a raid there'd be more reading

so long as they keep it simple and not overflow the text boxes to the point it scrolls like newer exotics 😭

[kind veldt]

make the main button be read it again so if someone just tries to button mash to skip the tutorial they just read it again

[iron gust]

It's active but most of the time it's skirmish where each time has 16 respawns
Try it, expect to die a lot

[kind veldt]

still find that funny in zelda

[brave forum]

All good just wanted to know I can do some type of pvp when ready

[elfin hazel]

add a confirmation box when you press the right button on top of that 🔥

[iron gust]

Conflict has its own dedicated group of players so it's active, matchmaking takes at most a minute in Europe

[tender wave]

Just know this isn't really a great game for pvp - lots of issues with cheaters, a huge long term grind up get the top builds fully upgraded, etc. It's really balanced a lot more around pve.

[brave forum]

Hopefully the same on na seems like dark zone more active on consoles than PC

[brave forum]

Yeah that's cool with me on PC there is cheaters on every game I play sadly usually just play MMOs first time playing division

[iron gust]

Conflict unlike the DZ doesn't have the watch bonuses or expertise so it might be a better place to start playing PvP
XP is also very decent

[simple spoke]

oh thanks for the help 🙂

[kind veldt]

it was just a typo, the new exotic is a holster like it was previously mentioned

[little fox]

Deadass?

[kind veldt]

currently it does that apparently, saw some people complaining about it

[crude tartan]

does anyone know how many prem credits you get back from current season pass?

[atomic kernel]

lets go. just got the ouroboros 😄

[wind lynx]

Can the priority objectives give another mission than pentagon??? Seriously, it feels so boring to do these.

[kind veldt]

you can guess which mission it is based on the reward

[wind lynx]

yeah but that does not change anything. i will have to reroll then, which is limited. or i can abort it, which is limited.... just annoying. would be better if i could pick whatever mission i want from it.

[pseudo lark]

anyone know if the mask reward is fixed yet?

[tough sandal]

hoping yall can help ive tried to make this buils, my percentages arent much lower than this guys and where hes getting 98 mil im getting 3 - 5 mil can someone explain https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jkGBtZr39Gs&t=306s&ab_channel=NothingButSkillz2.0

[tender wave]

don't trust youtubers

[tender wave]

OK, so that footage was filmed last season when there was a seasonal modifier that gave a huge boost to headshot damage at longer ranges.
That said, with the right setup you should be able to hit up to about 25-30m damage once your headhunter stacks are up.

SR-1 did get a bit of a damage nerf too so you'll likely be better off with a white death or model 700 if you're struggling to make the damage necessary to one-shot everything

[tropic sentinel]

It's not. Yet another "fix" that did nothing.

[pseudo lark]

weird

[tough sandal]

thank you for your help i will keep pushing with it then:)

[pseudo lark]

got the mask after killing the hunters but not as a drop from the last hunter

[tender wave]

It was never a 'drop' as such, went straight into the inventory. I've seen a few reports of people getting it at the end of the mission now though.

[pseudo lark]

Pretty sure it was a drop though

[crisp shore]

Lombos_Calli if you are here thanks for dropping me a big horn just now in legendary union arena

[pseudo lark]

or does it also give chat notif if you directly get it (not as a drop)

[tender wave]

For me running it last week it just appeared in my inventory, I didn't even notice it until I manually went through and checked my masks after the mission

[tropic sentinel]

People do get it, but if you are in a group, still only 1 receives it, afaik the one landing kill shot.

[kind veldt]

While i am unsure if its the last hit or not, it was when the encounter was over directly to my inventory since i keep gear list on chat

[pseudo lark]

yeah that happened to me too, i just thought it was a drop from the last one since it gives the chat notification of someone picking it up

[slim steeple]

still having matchmaking and calling for backup issues

[coarse ibex]

does anyone else has the problem that the game freezes or crashes?

[tender wave]

is crashing when you're looking at your loadouts by any chance?

[coarse ibex]

it crashed during the climax mission 3 times now

[tender wave]

OK, so it's not the common crash from saving the new scorpio skin into a loadout then

[primal swift]

how do I share feedback and give suggestions to massive?

[remote ledge]

where can i farm the determined talent on sniper rifles?

[lunar hare]

farm sniper rifles

[remote ledge]

can i get a good spot

[lunar hare]

Countdown is the best method for gear farming

[remote ledge]

okieee

[hot birch]

I would farm but game keeps crasing. cant play this shit at all.

[remote ledge]

sad

[sterile ferry]

It does actually display as a chat notification, at least before the update.
Unlike other hunter masks, it wont get dropped on the ground for us to pick up

[coarse ibex]

for you too? it is strange, everything worked fine in the morning here

[remote ledge]

mine is not crashing at all

but yes i get no matchmaking

im currently trying to do heroic countdown

and no one is joining

[lunar hare]

Challenging is the most popular difficulty for Countdown.

[remote ledge]

Same thing

[lunar hare]

Heroic is filled with selfish bastards who kick people that don't "meet their requirements"

[remote ledge]

Im in asia and get no matching at all

Theres something wrong

[hot birch]

yea keep crashing. im on the verge of just uninstalling this shit game.

also matchmaking seems bugged or something. last maintenance seemed to make everything worse.

[craggy ridge]

every where

[crisp shore]

no issues here

[surreal sigil]

ssssheeeesh, now I get what you guys chase the builds. I was having a bit of fun with pesti lengmo but only just got contractor with near god rolls. stack max momentum and sheesh, challening is no longer worth the word

and then of course I got way too greedy when the rogues spawned 💀

[tiny oar]

happens, you'll learn what you can do and cant do with experience

[late finch]

So I think I finally got it. On May 27 all agents will be gifted scavenging points that is 3 time the value of their SHD level to spend between all characters. Am I correct or not, because tis is driving me crazy.

[tiny oar]

whats the source ?

also why would we get a reset of scav points

[kind veldt]

#patch-notes

[late finch]

I have been watching streamers all day trying to figure it out.

[kind veldt]

devs explianed there the changes with more details

[still juniper]

hey bird, i have good news

[kind veldt]

what is it?

[tiny oar]

ah i havent read the patch notes yet

so we have to spend all points before 27 ?

[steel rune]

Hello someone that’s on PlayStation help me with a build I just have a set equipped

[hollow hill]

Sounds about right, yes. I'm surprised this chat hasn't exploded over the Dev notes. Stepped away from this game and quietly watched the community from afar- it's eerily quiet here 😳

[hollow hill]

Or they'll reward us 3 times as much resources we get with scavenging

[late finch]

That's what I'm not sure about. All my resources are 9999.

[tender wave]

Not sure where you got '3x your shd level' from. The points you get are the same as a brand new mule would have (eg shd lvl -800 if you're over shd 1000). These will replace any existing unspent scavenging points on all characters, so spend everything before that date.

[hollow hill]

Patch notes states "multiply the value of the return you get from scavenger points by 3x"

So if you get 100 protective fabric, it'll be 300 now

(wrong mat but just an example)

[tiny oar]

try #td2-build-advice

[hollow hill]

So basically if you get 1 SHD Cal per point, it's now 3. Recon points reward 2 per point, that now becomes 6. I'm liking this change. Question is, how will the leveling system work? I feel like an XP buff is slightly needed as we cant farm watches no more. Make my time rewarded, which it's all in the levels yeah? I'm not tryna run up 5 directive control points until my eyes bleed just to max out my builds

Or simply make Recal + Resource caches reward way more than they do now to continue to promote the usage of countdown

[copper hamlet]

Same, matchmaking has not worked since the server maintenance.

[hollow hill]

Goobisoft 😂

Overcapping is nice but the time needed to do that is comically long. I chose not to overcap because it's a waste of rewarded resources. As a shd 14k+ player, the watch nerf killed it for me. However, im wondering how they're gonna work the watches. If you level on 1 character, will it be synced across all characters? Currently you can level up 1 and the others get their own separate points . If they sync the points, this means that you can use any character but your points stay the same across all 4 (spend them on 1 char, move to a different one, it syncs up with the points you just spent)

So if you have say 300 points and spend about 30 on one char. You have 270 left. Move to a different character, will you still have 270? I think this is what they're gonna do with the new system. They need to buff the resource caches and possibly the leveling system if they plan on balancing out this change

[late finch]

I think that is how it will work.

But what happens to my 15k+ SHD points?

[kind veldt]

we have channel for that#lfg-pc

[still juniper]

Good news bird

I broke a crowbar

[kind veldt]

While i never had to handle one in real life i remember them being just stupidly sturdy pieces of metal

[still juniper]

That's basically what they are

[cinder nacelle]

So, I spend all my current scavenger points and they will all be refunded and more on the 27th. Is that right? That seems fine to me.

[tropic compass]

I wonder if we'll continue to receive a yearly expansion like countdown,descent and BfB

[kind veldt]

Pretty much

[hybrid ore]

Countdown and Descent were both just added game modes.
We have not gotten one per/year in div2 so far.

[minor gazelle]

is the pvp in this game dead?

[still juniper]

hey riven, how've you been

[hybrid ore]

Can't complain.

[still juniper]

good

i did something awesome earlier

[hybrid ore]

Nope, just a more niche aspect of the overall experience.

[cinder nacelle]

I'll have more optimisation materials than I will know what to do with.

[hybrid ore]

As your skills Expertise level are account-wide, it's worth ranking them up, even if you don't reallly intend to use them that much, and the bonuses aren't super worth it.
IIRC you can get to Lvl 7-10ish without spending Exotic Components.

[inner elbow]

Expertise lv 13 onwards will require exotic components. Expertise lv 7 was the old way

[upbeat umbra]

What is better for targeted loot drops, Descent or Summit?

[late finch]

Countdown is better than both, and faster.

[unique bramble]

Descent doesn't have target loot

[upbeat umbra]

nvm

[broken moth]

What are Scavenger points anyways?

[crisp shore]

is there any point in doing certain things on legendary difficulty?

[lunar hare]

Scavenging* Points are granted when leveling up your character and used to buy materials or currency from the SHD watch.

[lunar hare]

ask the average player himself

[broken moth]

I thought that was just SHD points. So SHD Points and Scavenging Points are different?

[lunar hare]

somewhat
SHD points are to claim Bonuses (Offense, Defense, Skill and Misc)

[broken moth]

So it's 4 SHD Points then a Scavenging Point?

[lunar hare]

Yes

[broken moth]

Alright. Thanks

[lunar hare]

You get SHD points until you hit SHD 1k. After that, all goes to Scav

[broken moth]

Why 1k? Why not 800?

Wait nvm

[lunar hare]

when creating a mule character, you get SHD lvl -800 on scav
Say you are SHD 2.5k, you get 1700 Scav Points

[small spear]

practically drop rates and loot quality increase and bighorn is exclusive to this difficulty as well

besides that not much reason

[crisp shore]

i had someone drop their big horn loot for me today on legendary union arena 😁

[broken moth]

Unless you're opening Exotic Crates

I got a Bighorn from a crate and been using it ever since, the only Exotic I have atm

[lunar hare]

bighorn drops in caches after you get the blueprint

[small spear]

no you don't get them from exotic csches

you get them from brooklyn caches

[lunar hare]

forgot to add the question mark

[broken moth]

I don't have the blueprint as far as I know

[small spear]

that doesn't depend on blueprints

brooklyn caches have a chance to drop it

[broken moth]

Brooklyn Cache? Where would I obtain those?

I'm guessing from the season pass?

[crisp shore]

yes

[lunar hare]

stretch goals, yes

chances are .5% for: Ouro, Bighorn, Ravenous, Regulus and Eagle Bearer

if you don't feel like raid-ing, go farm some season xp

[broken moth]

Speaking about Exotics, can you only have 1 Exotic equipped or can you have an 1 Exotic weapon and 1 Exotic gear piece equipped?

[small spear]

the latter

[lunar hare]

i forget that word exists

[inner elbow]

latte with an r

[small spear]

i love climbing latters

[broken moth]

Well I should get back to doing the Manhunts so I can somewhat catch up with the Division 2 story before the next update.

[lunar hare]

tbh I never paid attention to this game's story lol

[broken moth]

I've always been a story person lol

[jagged prism]

if you forget div 1 story. look up NGN on youtube they have the whole lore on everything division i'm told. still need to make it through an extremely long video fo Div 1 and Div 2 story combined

[misty path]

this game will be the death of me

i've been long searching for the elusive grupo chd/chc/unbreakable chestpiece

i've now found 3 grupo chd/chc/vanguard from targeted loot

and i just randomly picked up a zwiadowka chd/chc/unbreakable

[worldly dawn]

Hello everyone I'm looking for active ps5 clan to join and look for a few cool people to play the division 2 I'm a little new so but not that new just dm me if you want to play

[tender wave]

@rotund marten the channel for matchmaking is #lfg-pc

[analog warren]

I'm ttrying to get the chatterbox. Is there a way to reset hyena boxes? I've tried to get the magazine 3 days in a row and i'm tired of waiting betwen attempts

[rotund marten]

oh shit my bad i thought i was in the lfg tab sry @tender wave

[still juniper]

hey kettle, good news

[tender wave]

@worldly dawn try #td2-clan-recruitment and #lfg-playstation if you're looking for others to join

[still juniper]

i managed to break a crowbar

[tender wave]

Is that good news?

[still juniper]

yes, tahts quite a feat considering how tough crowbars are

i've moved a car with that crowbar, managing to break it means ive gotten stronger than the crowbar

[tender wave]

But now you've got a broken tool which failed to do its job

[still juniper]

yeah but crowbars are like 20 bucks, being stronger than a crowbar is priceless

[tender wave]

Ok, congrats I guess

[still juniper]

danke

[jagged prism]

you guys already talk about the dev notes today?

[quiet heath]

will the journey content for modifiers be reset on the brooklyn dlc?

[jagged prism]

yes as there'll be new modifiers and new journey objectives

they did mention you can do those journeys co-op
so if you got 3 others to run with and all 4 of you work on 1 objective each you'll complete it 4x faster apparently if you can manage that anyways

[bitter wraith]

If i make another mule i will have 1890 spare points to throw away. What should I do with them?

That is after I've maxed my mats to just below the cap, expertised all useful builds, and expertised all useful weapons and maxed tactical assessments

[jagged prism]

spend it before teh 27th as it'll get overwritten

[glass rapids]

Do i get to keep my 250k printer filaments

[bitter wraith]

Yeah I know. That's the whole point but where am I spending 1890 points?

[jagged prism]

one suggestion i saw in roguegold's video was credits

[bitter wraith]

Doubt it.

[jagged prism]

also in same video the people who overcapped or gotten materials past the max will keep all their materials apparently

[bitter wraith]

Well actually considering i won't be making any more mules that's not a bad decision I'll get to keep all the creds

[glass rapids]

From what im reading they are encouraging over stacks right now before dlc

[glass rapids]

Why wouldnt i able to? Did i miss something from the patch notes

[jagged prism]

if you want to spend your time leveling and relevling go for it

[quiet heath]

wait what dont we get to keep?

[glass rapids]

Just asking the question seeing if people had different views is all

[glass rapids]

Just the watch points, spend em before dlc release

You get to keep all of ur overstack so far

[wheat spruce]

yoo anyone wanna farm high tier loot ,im llvl 180 trying to get cracked?

[bitter wraith]

They could roll back all mats to before the cap

To 999*

[jagged prism]

for now it's been "we won't roll back the materials past the maximum" but yeah never know a week later or a couple days before brookly can change it they can roll it back

[glass rapids]

Go on twitter bro, devs already replied this exact question for patrick wolf and plum.

We wont lose them. So go nuts

[jagged prism]

you were the one concerned and asked about it though
think doomsday was just saying at some point they could roll back

[glass rapids]

I just read that twitter feed as i wasnt getting much replies here 🙂 but yeah think its pretty clear now, no more speculations about what will happen to over stacked mats/exos

[raw minnow]

8 more expertise to go, 412/418

[bitter wraith]

I was planning to go to the cap but not over. Guess this means I'll be burning those points on mats

[jagged prism]

nods i just did that with the other stuff i can't get on the watch "riker and other things of that sort"

Tactical Assements

[little fox]

I'm having problems with stuttering and low fps on pc. Can anyone help?

[iron grove]

So apparently when I check my loadouts and once I get to my 6th loadout the game crashes anyone had this before?

[jagged prism]

what have you tried?

[jagged prism]

6th loadout have the scorpio exotic skin in it?

[iron grove]

Yes

[jagged prism]

that crashes the game apparenlty

[iron grove]

Oh how fun

Guess they might eventually fix it?

[kind veldt]

they will probably fix it, but there's a workaround at the moment

[iron grove]

Whats the work around?

[kind veldt]

Put scorpio in stash,
Take it out on another character,
Return to bugged character and save loadout with missing item,
Go to character with scorpio and transfer it back,

Fix for the scropio skin bug on loadouts.

was trying to find the post

and obviously when you do that also remove the skin for now

[iron grove]

Oh ok thanks will do

[jagged prism]

yeah, heard about it, but i don't know the whole steps to do so aside unequipping scorpio from teh load out or something?

[kind veldt]

how do unequip it from a loudout without selecting the loudout is the tricky part

which is why you need 2 characters

[jagged prism]

was thinking i wasn't a fan fo it so even if i got it i wouldn't use it, but i look and i got it alright

[iron tide]

is there any skill that helps with those pesky drone bomb spam legendary does?

[runic heart]

Hey guys, i'm new here and i'm having some problems finding hunters for a specific project, can anyone shine some light over here? I'm doing the "Ridgeway's Pride: Hunter" and i got all the keys and killed all the named fellas, even the rogue agents but i cant seem to find any hunters.

[iron tide]

floor 100 of the summit is it not?

[runic heart]

It spawned rogue agents, not hunters

[grim marlin]

Countdown on normal woud be pretty quick i guess

[runic heart]

They spawn on normal??

[undone timber]

Emp the operator

Or kill them either works

[undone timber]

Kelso/Schaeffer manhunt

[undone timber]

Countdown hunters are coded as Black Tusk elites

[grim marlin]

Oh yeah, thanks for correcting!

[undone timber]

Yeah it's a weird little thing to note

[broken moth]

I recently beat Division 1 like 2 months ago, so it's still pretty fresh in my mind atm

[jagged prism]

for me it's been forever XD

[mild mauve]

What discord yall using for VC during raids ?

[pearl gazelle]

hey i'm a newbie and just trying to clear the main story before starting dlc. My ubisoft open world OCD wants to clear all the important stuff on the map sections but I want to ask if the control points will just keep coming back? or once you clear them are they gone forever? Which stuff is like that so I don't go crazy focusing on them. Thanks!

[kind veldt]

enemies take them back weekly

[echo moon]

the control point will flip between captured by you or the other factions, while they're under your control they act as a TP for easier map traversal and while controlled by the enemy factions offer a backroom with loot once cleared. I'd say just do the missions and all and then go from there

[kind veldt]

you do get a backpack throphy if you clear them all

[copper hamlet]

Is anyone else still having issues with matchmaking not working?

[pearl gazelle]

ok so it's mainly used as a weekly xp grind thing. thanks for clearing that up. i might leave them for later on

[jagged prism]

i just believe my agent smells too funy to get a group

[kind veldt]

#lfg-pc

[hollow hill]

It's not an issue, it's a new feature for the game 😁

Now we really stuck as solo players 🗣️🔥

[primal skiff]

Its dum that prio obj xp is not shared if in a group

Like if someone starts a fresh prio obj in a group and all do said obj they dont get rewarded just the one whoes task it is

Also i remember distinctly that i was gifted div 2 but i have been playing for 3 years and am not sure 🤔 where can i find proof of purchase

[languid bay]

What the hell do i craft first

[zinc plover]

guys i need help

im looking for the "claws out" and "bloody knuckles" but i have no clue where to look ToT

can anyone help?

i NEED this build

[vapid rover]

Claws out DZ exclusive.

[zinc plover]

ok thats 1 explination

[lunar hare]

Do you have ps plus by any chance?
If yes then farm Countdown currency and buy named caches from the vendor.
Bloody Knuckles are found in the same mode with Gloves Targeted Loot.

[zinc plover]

bless me with information oh great ones

yes i do have ps +

[lunar hare]

Matchmake Challenging Countdown

[zinc plover]

ok....where di i do that?

nvm i can figure it out on my own

do like for the dz thing...do i just kinda kill ppl in there?

[lunar hare]

Open Map > Matchmake > Countdown > Challenging
Please select your TL before going in. You can change your TL mid run anyways*

[zinc plover]

TL?

[lunar hare]

You don't necessarily need to go to DZ. Do as I said earlier, buy named caches

[zinc plover]

what do i but them with? just normal currency?

[lunar hare]

Targeted Loot
||I literally just said it three messages ago||

[zinc plover]

srry 💔

[lunar hare]

Countdown Requisition, obtained when Extraction is completed

[zinc plover]

extraction?

so i AM going to dz?

[lunar hare]

Countdown

[zinc plover]

im so sorry, i habent touched this game in YEARS

[lunar hare]

.

Hopefully it lets you open the note
@ me if it doesn't

[zinc plover]

doing count down rn and i see ALOT of wrynern

my spelling 💔

[languid bay]

What are the best craftable guns rn

[lunar hare]

Because you haven't selected the right TL

Open Map > D-pad down

[brave forum]

Anyone know a fix for not getting the premium credits from the ultimate edition?

[lunar hare]

Every weapon is obtainable without crafting them

[zinc plover]

i thought i was looking for claws out tho?

isnt that a wyvern thing

[jagged prism]

Claws out drops from dz stuff, countdown with named cases is away around that

[zinc plover]

ohhh

which dz stuff?

just ANYTHING?

[jagged prism]

Dark zone area, preferably wyvern or holster target loot which you may never see for months

[zinc plover]

oh 😔

[jagged prism]

But knick yourself teying for it anyways

[zinc plover]

way to bring my hopes up 😭

lol

[jagged prism]

Here's a kicker, melee is useless in the game

[zinc plover]

idc i NEED this

I NEEEEEEED IT

[jagged prism]

Best one is sandman shotgun against red bars

Sweetdreams

[zinc plover]

who said this was 4 pve?

:mischivious laugh:

[jagged prism]

You'll die before you get in melee range anyways

Get to farming, the more you chat here the longer it'll take you to get the pieces

[zinc plover]

...i am...

dualweilding discord and a ps5 controler😩

not that i saw that aloud...thats not really much of a flex...

also do you have any tips for the blody knuckles?

[jagged prism]

Someone told you, countdown gloves

[zinc plover]

countdown gloves? is countdown a gamemode or is it a gearset???

[lunar hare]

Gamemode

[zinc plover]

OHH YOU MEAN PUT THE LOOT THING TO GLOVES DONT YOU?

[lunar hare]

TL Gloves yes

[zinc plover]

ohhh ok thx

[rotund drift]

pls dont try bloody knuckles build

[jagged prism]

Must be the Xbox symbol why they didn't read your advice doomz

[lunar hare]

it's almost the same thing 😭

[jagged prism]

Think about, one person will be extremely easy to kill since they want to melee you

[zinc plover]

time to slowly chisle away at my mental heath looking for this shit then getting mt hopes and dreams crushed when it doesn't work🥰

[rotund drift]

700% melee dmg cant even one hit.....\

[zinc plover]

theres a bull thing that gives you a speed buf

[rotund drift]

claws + LD + knuckles isnt worth it

[zinc plover]

and i have good strafing'

[jagged prism]

Still, you'll be killed before you get in range

[zinc plover]

who said im ONLY hitting?

[zinc plover]

not with the proper gear

[rotund drift]

melee build
doesnt melee

[zinc plover]

i said im not ONLY meleeing

[jagged prism]

Then why bother with melee items?

[rotund drift]

you'll have better luck soloing legendary at fresh 30 than trying to melee

[zinc plover]

extra dmg+cuz i want do try it

[jagged prism]

Might as well go the elmo shocker punch route

[rotund drift]

^

[zinc plover]

im good

"yall are sleeping on melee" i yell as they drag me into the padded room

[zinc plover]

...whats that?

[rotund drift]

whats your shd level

[zinc plover]

...ur gunna laugh

b4 you say anything, just know i have 340hours on this game 😐

[rotund drift]

not helping

[zinc plover]

its 335

[zinc plover]

helping what...

[jagged prism]

trust us someone tried it, there's a reason there's no builds on it especailly on this server

[zinc plover]

lmao then itl thrtow you off wehen you see one

JESUS! MY ENGLISH???!!!

[jagged prism]

trying to reinvent the wheel?