td2-general-chat

[still juniper]

like a deployable shield?

[scarlet plume]

it was a deployable you would use on cover to boost damage resist and other stats while you were in cover

[still juniper]

oh now THAT is interesting

another cool idea is a new chem launcher, the stone foam pellet

makes a half cover sized rock out of foam, basically deployable cover

[kind veldt]

foam seeker

[still juniper]

or a shield that you fully plant up, no movement but its bigger and can be used with LMG's/snipers

[kind veldt]

a boss uses in a raid

[tiny oar]

im gonna hunt you if you give that idea to devs

[kind veldt]

it IS ALREAD A THING

[tiny oar]

wym

[still juniper]

i think the deployable shield idea is interesting personally, it would scale with your skill ranks and you could deploy it like the rikers thing

[kind veldt]

IH boss 3 uses them

[tiny oar]

ah, you meant from enemy

i thought you ssaid for agents

i was scared to see that in dz

[kind veldt]

not gonna happen, they had infinite amount of issues with smart cover because it could bug movements

[still juniper]

a man may dream

[tiny oar]

remember the good old times when we could go out of bounds cause of smart cover ?

[still juniper]

cause thats a really interesting thought, or the cover foam

[tiny oar]

and look at future incursions

[still juniper]

just producing a thin, bullet proof layer of foam you cna hide behind, it lasts like 30 seconds before evaporating off

[undone timber]

You can still wall breach to this day just not with the deployable cover😉

[still juniper]

naval, whats your take on some of this stuff

like the LMG thats just 2 AR/AK pistols

[undone timber]

I'm all for unique ideas but whenever the dev team tries unique it goes to shit

[tiny oar]

i mean, not ALL the time

like the unicorn, they happen i swear

[still juniper]

how could hte dualies idea go wrong

its like, a handful of unique animations and a perk, plus a second muzzle flash

[kind veldt]

would like incendiary hive, that dont explode when they hit andinstead when you shoot at the enemy, more stick to an enemy the higher the explosion and burn damage

[ancient lance]

Okay I'm lost what did Lyfe do?

[tiny oar]

i dont understand

what would the hive do ?

[kind veldt]

throw incendiary thingies like they do with regular explosive ones

[tiny oar]

like sticky ?

[kind veldt]

except they just stick to the enemy

[undone timber]

The kingbreaker had a broken reload animation for like 6 seasons

[kind veldt]

you shoot and they all detonate

but they scale so more of them are the bigger the damage and burn damage

[tiny oar]

like explosive firefly but with another trigger ? it would make more sense than hive tbh

[still juniper]

whats the kingbreaker again

[undone timber]

Named TKB

[tiny oar]

ah, kingbreaker

[still juniper]

oh

[tiny oar]

the good old days of spotter

[still juniper]

still, i think the dualies could be interesting if they just put as much effort into things as they did in the old days

[undone timber]

Unfortunately they don't

Or maybe they do and it's corporate meddling who knows

Afaik the A-team is on star wars outlaws anyway

[still juniper]

i still have hope that we could get unique, interesting stuff again

give me a longbow, a pair of pistols to make an LMG, just something cool and new

[tiny oar]

when its not player feedback xd

[undone timber]

I mean to be fair Acosta knees and overlord are unique they're just not interesting

[tiny oar]

lot of stuff in div 2 is unique

[still juniper]

how is a shotugn that slows people down and whatever acosta does unique

[tiny oar]

but they are so unique they have no real use

[undone timber]

They seem to be designed with novelty first practicality never

[still juniper]

scorpion stops people completely

and what does acosta even do

[tiny oar]

its fine for the first stage, when you wanna make wild stuff, its less good when its time to balance it

[undone timber]

Increases movement speed based on certain actions

I believe it also allows you to sprint while bleeding but I forget

[still juniper]

soooo, literally nothing useful at all?

its literally just good for roaming around, nothing more

[undone timber]

Doesn't need to stack up

[tiny oar]

also the main problem is that we do have generic stuff, like striker

[undone timber]

At best it's a PvP toy

[still juniper]

who gives a damn about pvp

[tiny oar]

so now anything that is new, will be compared to striker

[undone timber]

It could have niche uses in speed runs but I haven't heard anything about it

[still juniper]

there arent people that boot up div2 and go "oh boy i cant wait to go to the dark zone and encounter stupid shit beyond my wildest migraines"

[undone timber]

I mean there are

[kind veldt]

i mean i hate aegis and mosquito more for failling at what they were trying than for trying

[undone timber]

It's a small but dedicated community

[still juniper]

we dont count the mentally ill or challenged

[undone timber]

Naturally yeah

[still juniper]

because good lord if you intentionally give yourself headaches you are ill in the head

and the dark zone is nothing but a headache

[undone timber]

I was actually excited for them

Because in concept they're really cool

[still juniper]

whats aegis even do

[kind veldt]

aegis is fiddling a bit better the numbers

mosquito is buggy and unfun to use

[tiny oar]

i like mosquito

but yeah its not great ngl

[undone timber]

Literally just give aegis way more damage resistance and it'd be good

[tiny oar]

but i like the concept

[still juniper]

what even is aegis

[kind veldt]

i explained earlier already to you

[undone timber]

If mosquito worked and aegis was better id have seen it making tanks viable

[still juniper]

please say it again, cause i dont recall what iti s

i know mosquito is a horrible bleed based pistol

[tiny oar]

imagine viable tanks in div 2 but they are fun to play

[kind veldt]

also no

[tiny oar]

or maybe i just hate tanking idk

[undone timber]

Grants damage resistance based on how many people are targeting you

[kind veldt]

mosquito forces enemies to target if you hit them enough times for a short duration

[undone timber]

There's only like a very small handful of good tank builds but none are used in general pve

[tiny oar]

yeah, for pvp being the tank is great

but pve, its so meh

and usually useless

[undone timber]

Like I made a whole blue/yellow hybrid to get a good decoy while also having a strong shield because I assumed then aegis DR would be good

[tiny oar]

also i hate our double bar mechanic

[undone timber]

But I didn't read it's 1.X not X

[kind veldt]

Tanks need:
a) a way to reliably get aggro (mosquito fails at this)
b) a decent way to do damage in PVE

[still juniper]

i wish we had more viable skill builds

[tiny oar]

like ok change the hp bar with armor its a good thing, but keeping hp bar

its bad

[still juniper]

cause in high end content, skill builds are just not good enough to compete with gun builds

[tiny oar]

now if hp is at 0 you arent tanky anymore

[undone timber]

I mean we have plenty of viable skill builds

[tiny oar]

and there is no way to reliably get it back except survivalist

really i would gladly accept the devs deleting out hp bar entirely

and change the oneshot mechanic

[kind veldt]

dont you mean firewall? doesnt it have health on kill?

[tiny oar]

or rather the anti oneshot

[still juniper]

yeah but not for super high end stuff like raids

cause skill damage just cant keep up with gun damage

[tiny oar]

oh yeah i forgot that, i was thinking of the medkit that gives you 200% armor and hp

[undone timber]

Oxi, Future initiative

[still juniper]

thats lame

[kind veldt]

that's also firewall no? survivalist is constant regen armor kit

[still juniper]

oxi is a dot, thats more statusy

[kind veldt]

that also heals neraby people

[still juniper]

i mean turrets and bombs

[small spear]

i mean, he is right that oxi is a skill damage build, doesn't scale off of status

[still juniper]

you get my point though

[tiny oar]

oh well, i need to check for alzhaimer soon

[undone timber]

Naturally turrets can't clear raids though

[still juniper]

i want more interesting and varied skill builds, make sniper/arty turrets viable

[undone timber]

Even just DPS builds can't

[kind veldt]

arty turret is stupidly strong, as long you dont have a low ceiling

[still juniper]

we got a set to improve flamer turrets, give me an arty turret set

[undone timber]

It's a different niche subset of specialized setups

[undone timber]

Also this

I love it for normal PVE

[kind veldt]

that one is harder to do since it's locked to an spec

[undone timber]

Until ceiling

[tiny oar]

yeah arty is strong with the right build, but damn its sloooooooooooooooooooow

i hate slow stuff

i want zoom zoom

[kind veldt]

i mean if it kills everything in two shots when they are still at the door

[undone timber]

Slow but you get to blow everything up

[still juniper]

also, is there a way to make BK at least viable in high end

cause reloading is for chumps, i want to just spray down big enemies

[tiny oar]

yeah but no fun, i want zoom zoom

[undone timber]

Sniping people with explosives

[worthy onyx]

Regulus

[tiny oar]

thats why i love lady death

[kind veldt]

i think they could make a companion Rifle exotic that buffs sniper turret

[tiny oar]

get a kill go zoom

[undone timber]

You can just chuck it on any DPS build

[still juniper]

do you have a good LMG DPS framework you can recommend

[soft stratus]

how come i can't donate Pointman for Expertise? it doesn't show up

EDIT: it's listed as Armadillo Vest

[undone timber]

It's honestly a shame we didn't get exotic sets expanded on in div2

[worthy onyx]

Striker with backpack, obliterate ceska chest, coyotes mask

[tiny oar]

want a companion rifle for you companion backpack and your perfect companion chest ?

[undone timber]

Just whatever your striker or high end setup is

[kind veldt]

n

[tiny oar]

it should tho, what rank is it on the item ?

[kind veldt]

i mean problem in the first game there wasnt some relaly interesting ones

[undone timber]

Ye that's why I'm surprised they didn't expand on it tbh

It's an interesting idea

I mean we have one with Elmo and shocker punch to be fair

[tiny oar]

also quick tip, just give everything that is marked as trash, its much faster

[soft stratus]

it's listed as Armadillo Vest in the donation menu...and has been for 2 years (per reddit)

[undone timber]

But it's like I miss the weapon sets

[tiny oar]

didnt even notice lol, i dont go into the menu, i just donate in bulk

[undone timber]

Pointman and the base gila vest are different items

[still juniper]

why do so many people hate BK

[undone timber]

Subpar dps

[still juniper]

BK is fun, it looks cool too, big gun, unending mag, and reloading is for chumps

[jolly phoenix]

also the greatest economy

[still juniper]

yeah but what you lose in raw DPS you get back in never ever reloading, its just a constant stream of boolet

[undone timber]

Problem is everything favours burst over sustained

For sustained DPS ofc burger king is great

[still juniper]

borgir king lol

[tiny oar]

except tanks, but we can burst tank down so yeah, burst is win

[still juniper]

but yeah, i just really like BK

[jolly phoenix]

burgir

[still juniper]

i think its underused in adclear and sustained damage roles

[undone timber]

Pitza

[kind veldt]

i use to destroy flying big drones i forgot the name

[small spear]

steady handed gr9

would like to have a word

[jolly phoenix]

i just loosed on weekly legendary vs pizzas deilivery

[small spear]

pizza time

[undone timber]

Hotshot players who don't miss

[still juniper]

it can have all its words, its not the same as a good unending stream of boolet from the highest RPM lmg in the game

the almighty negev

[tiny oar]

why hit when you can miss and die

[small spear]

except gr9 is just better

[still juniper]

Nuh uh

[undone timber]

As long as you have 50 percent accuracy you have infinite ammo gr9

[small spear]

good argument

[still juniper]

Besides, it's also because of the feel of it

Why have some off the shelf lmg when you could have THE bullet king

Never reload, never fear, just spray lead down range

[small spear]

why not use an exotic slot? you get to waste an exotic slot?

[ancient lance]

I'll probably return to Warframe later but it has too much sword slashing for my taste. Does the current state of Warframe allow for guns-only??

[still juniper]

The exotic slot on an lmg build should be an exotic

[small spear]

that is outdone by a high end

[undone timber]

Iron lung

[still juniper]

What's iron lung again

[jolly phoenix]

well you can go, easiest one is kuva tonkor xd

[small spear]

and yes iron lung is deserving of its exotic status

[still juniper]

The fire one right?

[undone timber]

Ye

[tiny oar]

ah yes, i too hate the geneva convention

[undone timber]

It has great burst dps and negates suppression

[still juniper]

Bk is too

[jolly phoenix]

i want tonkor in td

[still juniper]

It's got THE mag of holding

[still juniper]

Grenade launcher spec

[small spear]

idk man, the gr9 is too hard to ignore

[undone timber]

More like Geneva suggestion

[tiny oar]

more like geneva to do list

[undone timber]

Burger king looks cool I'll give it that but exotics tend to

[jolly phoenix]

its sucks :c cant go all the time

[still juniper]

Yeah but it looks like something keltec would make

[undone timber]

Everything else it has going for it is outdone by GR9

[small spear]

naval, i'm cooking a new build

[undone timber]

Whatcha got

[small spear]

(actually it's a rehash of an old one)

[kind veldt]

GR9 isnt just HK by another name?

[still juniper]

Say what you will, bullet king is supreme

[small spear]

blue ND with six12 brazen

[undone timber]

Blue ND

What's the play here

[small spear]

you just play it like striker lol

[full zinc]

youre drunk, go home 😆

[small spear]

real talk though, it's one of my more comfy builds back when scorpio released and i didn't feel like running HF all the time

[undone timber]

Without striker stacks wouldn't you be shooting peas though

[tiny oar]

comfy how ?

[still juniper]

What's a good exotic armor for BK spray

[small spear]

scorpio and shield are enough for me

[small spear]

ND does a lot

[undone timber]

Oh yeah I forgot triple damage

[full zinc]

ninja knee

[small spear]

a side effect is also dta double dipping

which, a shotgun has

[nocturne frigate]

uh i cant get the cowboy boots even though i ran 2 missions in groups

[still juniper]

Now what's an actual suggestion

[undone timber]

I'll put it together sometime probably

[tiny oar]

isnt that for the hat ?

[small spear]

now that i have some time i'll just put it together

[undone timber]

Still need something to replace my hunter killer on the other brazen setup

[still juniper]

I don't even recall what half the exotics do anymore

[small spear]

crit brand?

ceska intimidate on its own is more damage than hunter killer

[undone timber]

Ye I just need a good drop

[small spear]

not sure about grupo if you have ceska already

[undone timber]

I believe most of my chests are locked to red or oblit

[still juniper]

Naval, what would be a good lmg exotix

[small spear]

dude last week i got another ceska double crit chest, it's like my 10th

[undone timber]

Iron lung

[still juniper]

No armor

[undone timber]

I genuinely never got one😭

[still juniper]

I'm using bk

[tiny oar]

bro how many orphans did you gift the devil ?

[undone timber]

That's why I run grupo😔

[kind veldt]

pestilence is alright, bluescreen is also alright

[undone timber]

Coyote

[nocturne frigate]

#ask-td2-community

[still juniper]

Brother I mean armor

I've been talking about bk this whole time

[tiny oar]

well, maybe last mission bugged, but since 1 was registered it should work

[nocturne frigate]

ill try again lol

maybe heroic doesnt count

[tiny oar]

it does

[nocturne frigate]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[tiny oar]

just run another one imo

[still juniper]

Whats coyote mask even do again

[undone timber]

0-15m: 25 percent crit damage
15-25m: 10 percent crit chance/damage
25m+: 25(?) percent crit chance

[small spear]

correct

[tiny oar]

yeah for dps coyote is the go to exotic

[undone timber]

The only time you wouldn't use it is if there's another coyote but I don't think too hard about it tbh

[kind veldt]

you can have different effects at the same time i think

[undone timber]

Some one shot setups require all 3 though

Ye

[kind veldt]

so if someone hits from close range and the other from afar you have multiple bonuses

[tiny oar]

yeah but its pretty specific

[still juniper]

Collector doesn't seem too bad on a flashbangs build

[kind veldt]

it's great for flamenades

it's not so great for flashbangs because they do no damage, i mean you get an effecitve range

[still juniper]

Or the meme toe, what's the backpack for striker even do

[undone timber]

Another conceptually great exotic that has no practical use

If you can hit enough enemies grouped up it's nice but they never do that

[kind veldt]

thats more on granades being a bust, cause it's quite fun with flamenades

[still juniper]

Ik the chest for striker is 200 stacks instead of 100

Is the backpack a damage buff per stack?

[undone timber]

Yes

.65 to 1 percent amp per stack

[tiny oar]

yeah, nades are bad but idk how they should rework them

[still juniper]

God damn that's huge

So at 200 stacks with backpack that's triple damage?

[undone timber]

Ye that's why people run it over a vigi bag

[undone timber]

More than that with other stuff but yeah

[still juniper]

Then some exotic and Pavlov gloves?

[undone timber]

Striker chest is almost exclusively used in legendary, incursions though

[still juniper]

It let's you get double stacks

That's huge

[undone timber]

The issue is you kill everything so fast you never get 200 stacks

[still juniper]

Is bloody knuckles actually bad? Using it with stage left or lefty could give some crazy damage options

[undone timber]

Nah it's excellent but situational

Very good for boss burns

[still juniper]

How do I get bloody knuckles

[undone timber]

Target farm

[still juniper]

So countdown and pray?

[undone timber]

Ye

[kind veldt]

make them scale out of yellow cores or something?

[still juniper]

Thanks, if I don't already have one THAT will be me lmg exotic

Cause lefty or stage left is already a staple in all of my damage builds

Isn't it something like 30%damage and a slow from perfect sledge?

[tiny oar]

yeah im thinking scaling of cores, but any of thoses is bad, cause if you make them scale one core, its gonna be either op on that core and meh on other, or good on the core and absolute shit on other core

you'd be like gating the nades behind a specific core

right now all nades are meh as a base but at least everyone can use them

[undone timber]

40 percent unique DTA with slow

[tiny oar]

i mean the base one, not the specs

idk, maybe an actually good exotic for nades would be great

[undone timber]

I believe at one point we're getting unrestricted access to any grenade which is cool

[tiny oar]

wut ?

[undone timber]

In reference to perfect sledge mb

[still juniper]

Yeah that's amazing, plus bloody knuckles which is a straig 25%

[still juniper]

I really like flashbangs for some reason

Super useful cause of wide range, the flash effect, and no self damage on a botched toss

Wait it says damaging an enemy with a nade, does a flash deal 0 damage?

[kind veldt]

okay random bullshit idea

tip of the spear now lets you switch between all granades and spec weapons on the fly and you get different bonus depending on the ones you use

[undone timber]

Ideally you use fire nades anyway

[still juniper]

That's dumb

[primal skiff]

God yes then i would actually use it

[still juniper]

Fire nades?

[kind veldt]

the duality of man

[undone timber]

The incendiaries from survivalist

Cuz it procs on anyone who steps into the fire

[still juniper]

Ja ik what they are, but why?

[primal skiff]

Is the hunt update?

[tiny oar]

that could actually be good

especially pvp

[still juniper]

Lefty proxs when you throw the nade with the gun out, nit when it goes off right?

[undone timber]

Less than 5 minutes after the update rolls out and everyone gear is absolutely botched

[kind veldt]

i did call my own idea bullshit

[undone timber]

As long as you damage an enemy with the nade with the gun out it procs

[kind veldt]

kinda like how we had alphabridge just unlocks all talents despite restrictions

[undone timber]

So you can throw the fire nades then switch to lefty and it'll proc

[undone timber]

Alpha bridge my beloved

PVP goat

[still juniper]

with BK, does it instantly refresh the talent, since hte very act of damaging with the nade causes an effect from the nade?

[tiny oar]

yeah that was busted

tho the classified version was bad but fun to use

[kind veldt]

i mean it got reworked plenty of times, alternative i had discussed once here was changing all talents to perfect versions on the guns you use

[undone timber]

Huh

[primal skiff]

Or being able to add perfect tallent to other guns like u can with base talens

Like perfect strained on dark winter kind XD

[still juniper]

the Bloody Knuckles talent stipulates that "if you cause the effect of the grenade, or hit a melee hit, this instantly refreshes"

[primal skiff]

Is it good equipment?

[still juniper]

so would using the grenade and causing damage with it immediately cause it to go off cooldown, making it basically on command with no cooldown?

[tiny oar]

like you mean having double talent on a weapon ?

[still juniper]

cause the damage comes from the fire, which counts as both the grenades effect and its source of damage

[undone timber]

I'm not actually sure if it works for bloody knuckles

[still juniper]

an interesting idea to test, no?

[primal skiff]

Would be fun but too op

No i mean rn u cannot add perfect talens on guns u dont find them with right? I mean adding perfect talents on base guns that are unnamed etc

[undone timber]

I don't get home for a couple hours I'll test when I do if nobody beats me to the punch

[still juniper]

here in about 30 minutes when my game finishes updating ill see if i have bloody knuckles and test it if i do

[still juniper]

ahhh i see what you did there

bloody knuckles, beats you to hte punch

i love puns

[primal skiff]

Also it would be hella fun be to be able to customise/add skins to exotics like in div 1

[tiny oar]

so just make the gun a named version and replace talent ? that would be pretty bad tbh cause unless its a super rare named dz exclusive that drop once in a blue moon, you could just.... get the named weapon

[primal skiff]

One of the few things i miss is i could run a full exotic set if i wanted to there lol

[full zinc]

the blast procs lefty. gun just needs to be in hand when it explodes. survivalist nade can keep proccing as long as the fire burns

[primal skiff]

Add perfect to regular

The exat reverse of what u are saying

[still juniper]

ah ok thank you

[tiny oar]

well thats what i said before then, you stack talents

[still juniper]

so a grenade doesnt become leftified by being thrown with lefty out, having lefty out as a grenade does damage causes the sledge

[primal skiff]

I think i am too sleepy to comprehend rn i guess sorry

[tiny oar]

xd

[still juniper]

no im sleepy

[tiny oar]

np man, we all tired

[full zinc]

yep

[tiny oar]

its 5am here

maybe i should go to sleep

[still juniper]

thanks deck

[tiny oar]

next day will hurt so bad

im too old for this

[primal skiff]

I just woke up its 8:55 here

[tiny oar]

lucky you

[primal skiff]

Brain cannot comprihend existance

[tiny oar]

nor should it

existence bad

sleep in the void good

[soft stratus]

if i'm targeting a specific named item, what should i choose for the Target Loot? the type of item it is, or the Brand?

[tiny oar]

both can work, but brand is a bit better

for bags and chest

for the rest, tl the type

[still juniper]

usually the specific item it is, like Kneepads, the same applies for exotics

[full zinc]

if its a named item, target the brand... its better sorting through 6 items rather than 60

exo only you target type

[still juniper]

i usually target the item type and i get results pretty fast

must just be good luck

[full zinc]

you made the proper sacrifices

brands are a lot smaller pool than type

[still juniper]

i gave my cat a chicken nugget

groot wanted a nugget, loki wanted a spoonful of my frosty, i regularly feed them snacks

[tiny oar]

not for every type tho, like mask or holster have like 2/3 named

for bp or chest yeah for sure

[full zinc]

, then every brand pool is smaller than any type pool 🤦‍♂️

think of how many brands and gear sets there are

[tiny oar]

hm true

tho do we know how loot is decided

that would make it clear

[undone timber]

It's just a smaller loot pool so much much higher chances

You only farm gear type for exotics

[full zinc]

man, its target loot... do you have to do this with everything

[tiny oar]

no i mean, the way loot is decided by the game to be exotic/named/etc

[still juniper]

i always target item type, you have no idea how many foxes prayers or contractors glovesive thrown away, or how full my stash was at one point

[tiny oar]

like lets say you tl a brand, does it chose to be named before brand or the other way around ?

[undone timber]

It's just rng

There's a drop chance table somewhere

[tiny oar]

yeah but rng is decided by drop tables and order

im asking how its coded ingame

[full zinc]

the target loot drops will follow what you target... there will also be normal random drops too afaik

datamine it and find out ig

[tiny oar]

thats not what i asked xd

[tiny oar]

yeah nah, i let others do that im not skilled enough

[still juniper]

do yall use countdown or the tower

[undone timber]

Everyone farms countdown for loot

[full zinc]

countdown is a lot more loot/hr

[undone timber]

Summit is just too slow

[tiny oar]

yeah but its more fun

[still juniper]

i use countdown just cause its more fun

you got more at stake, cause if you botch it you just die, there are no redos once oyu hit evac

[undone timber]

I prefer underground to summit tbh

Summit as it is is just insanely repetitive

[still juniper]

underground?

the hell is hte underground

[tiny oar]

yeah obviously, but thats as close as we will get

tho i miss underground too

[undone timber]

Div 1 equivalent of summit

[still juniper]

also can we really not say feck here

[tiny oar]

and survival

[still juniper]

we can say shit, we can say hell, but not the actual swear of feck, even though its said in hte game repeatedly

[full zinc]

some stuff is automodded. and there is an auto ban at a certain limit. just as easy to say something a different way and get the same point across though

[still juniper]

yeah but just why?

[full zinc]

ubisoft

[still juniper]

its such a specific thing to automod when its literally in the game itself

[full zinc]

same with no vc here but in game its on...

[still juniper]

brother the npc's regularly say it about hte division, its a line in the game you hear every 15 seconds

" F THE DIVISION"

[full zinc]

yeah it doesnt matter

[still juniper]

this is nonsense and bullshit

[full zinc]

again doesnt matter 👴

theyve expanded the list 😆

[still juniper]

i can get automodding slurs, but a single oddly specific swear, in an FPS game that includes gore and explosions, including the very word youve banned

[kind veldt]

Everyday my cursing gets sillier

[still juniper]

its not even a rare voiceline, you hear it every 5 seconds just roaming about the overworld

"F THE DIVISION"
"IM GONNA F YOU UP"
"F YOU" constantly

i mean theres like 5 voicelines for each faction that say it

[tiny oar]

cursing ? in my christian minecraft server ????

[still juniper]

The literal npcs you encounter every 5 feet swear like sailors

[soft stratus]

how do i unlock Legendary Countdown?

[tiny oar]

you dont

[still juniper]

highest you get is heroic unless something changed

legendary countdown just isnt a thing

[still juniper]

hey what skills are even good on an LMG kit

ik rez hive, but what else is even fitting

[undone timber]

Banshee pulse, decoy, emp sticky

[still juniper]

oh emp is a good idea

[meager wind]

Gotta say, the DPS Striker build seems fun, but it's def not tanky enough for a hothead n00b like me. I can do some PvE stuff on Challenging, but every once in a while, the game flips a switch and its wipe after wipe xD

[undone timber]

You can swap reds for blues or add memento or both

[broken solstice]

all red striker with preservation on the weapon has all the survivability i need. way better than armor cores bc you kill way faster with all red while regaining 20% armor every kill

and use your shield in a way so it doesnt break

which is basically by taking a few hits, putting it away, and getting someplace safe

[tiny oar]

you can reroll core as blue for more armor, and stacks will give you the dps

but tbh its more pvp focused

[still juniper]

man these constant delta 3 errors are pissing me off

[full zinc]

just gotta realize you cant facetank

[soft stratus]

Does Scorpio's status effects transfer when used with Perfect Creeping Death?

[full zinc]

yes

[tiny oar]

yes

[soft stratus]

0-0

[tiny oar]

i mean thats the point of creeping death

[soft stratus]

i mean, devs

[full zinc]

it just makes the your application 10m

[soft stratus]

as in, balance etc

[full zinc]

its not really worth for scorpio tbh, they will still be really short status

[tiny oar]

yeah, there are tons of better status effects

so balance wise its nothing

[small spear]

wdym applying poison within 10m isn't OP 💀

[full zinc]

good for foam eclipse and whatnot , but you can get a nice damage buff instead

[soft stratus]

omg

it works with Foam too?!

[full zinc]

yeah any status

[tiny oar]

all status work, foam, dizzy, poison, shock, etc

[full zinc]

but its gonna apply to whatever is applied when its off cooldown

[tiny oar]

anything that can be prevented by hazard protection ? it works

[full zinc]

what build are you using

[still juniper]

man the marauder copter is a piece of shit and i hate it

its so annoying, especially in places with people focused cover

[still juniper]

Outbreak Protocol spreads foam too

[soft stratus]

For Countdown?

Pulse + Foam. Nightwatcher + completely random stuff

For the Hunters at the end I swap to Crusader + Pulse. 4 pc Foundry + 2 pc Cavalier (since i don't have the SHD levels to not need Cavalier) + Scorpio and push since i'm immune

when I have the SHD levels to not need 2 pc Cavalier to be immune anymore, i was thinking of going Pointman + Belstone backpack for Opportunistic OR The Courier

though now since I know Foam can spread i'm gonna look into that build too

[undone timber]

Scorpio griefs creeping death cuz the status is so short

[soft stratus]

Indirect Transmission
Your status effects now spread on kill to all enemies within 10m and refresh 50% of the duration.

do I have to be the one who kills for this to happen?

[undone timber]

No

That's why it's so busted in groups

[soft stratus]

jesus christ

[still juniper]

another really fun build is strikers with bullet king

just infinite aggressive fire, cause suppressive fire is for cowards

i just wish there was a skill that made me harder to hit so i could just keep blasting

[full zinc]

I have a hazpro eclipse build that's pretty perfect for countdown. Check out the pinned sheet in #td2-build-advice .
Saves you from being shutdown by hunters

[still juniper]

hey deck, is there a skill that distracts enemies or stops them from shooting at me so i can keep blasting at them with my lmg

[ancient lance]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F7Fg_1Md0Xc

[full zinc]

Decoy, drone or turret can take a little agro as well

[ancient lance]

This scene was hilarious especially since Hyenas are the weakest faction in Div 2

[still juniper]

oh i never even considered that, now i can hose bullets while i hose bullets!

[soft stratus]

oh, i've been using that spreadsheet! i'll check out your build now thx

[undone timber]

You can make arguments for each being dangerous tbh

[still juniper]

good lord i cant find a countdown team

everyone keeps leaving after the first hunter

[solid creek]

anyone can help me power lvl to 40? 35 atm. any heroic mission with directives.

[spare cove]

You're better off asking in LFG

[soft stratus]

will Creeping Death continue to spread if there is an enemy within 10m of an infected? Meaning if there's a 100m room of 200 enemies all standing next to each other, all them fleckers are getting Creeping Death'ed

or is it within 10m of the original shot?

[small spear]

just 10m of original shot

then it goes on cooldown

[soft stratus]

can Hunters hack Traps?

[small spear]

no

[warped cove]

Is anyone getting a bunch of exotic drops today? I recall it doing this on the first day of a manhunt before.

[spare cove]

Mhmm

[warped cove]

I kind of think deus tweak drop rates to bolster more play and engagement.

Devs.

[spare cove]

Okay

[full zinc]

well your initial application will proc creeping 1 time. if using eclipse, and if creeping is off cool down when your status spreads from dead npc, itll proc again due to that application. with a double proc like that youll effectively have a 25m spread in one direction. the game doesnt care how you apply, just that there is a status transferred

[hazy snow]

What’s the turret and drone combo?

Like which skill variants

[silent nymph]

Would an MP40 be like good if it was ever added to D2?

[hazy snow]

And what are field recon data

[silent nymph]

My bad, it's some material used to optimize your gear

[tender wave]

Assault turret and striker drone @hazy snow
Field recon data are optimisation materials

[hazy snow]

Thx

[hazy snow]

I want to run a summit floor 10 strat and it said run the easy turret and drone combo

So thx

[tender wave]

Why do you want to run f10?

It's not an xp farm any more so there are relatively few reasons to farm it

Also turret drone is easy but slow, it's not usually recommended as a farming method

[hazy snow]

Gear farming

I don’t want to do countdown cuz that isn’t soloable from what I heard

[tender wave]

Countdown isn't soloable but is very easy to matchmake for and if you stick to challenging difficulty you don't have to worry about carrying your weight.
Farming just floor 10 for gear doesn't make a whole lot of sense though, might as well farm up through summit.
If you really want to focus on boss loot then floor 90 would be better since more bosses.

[hazy snow]

Okey thx

[soft stratus]

Countdown Challenging is ez loot

[hazy snow]

How long does countdown usually take

[tender wave]

20m or less

[hazy snow]

Okey thx

[oak remnant]

Morning all just joined

[hazy snow]

Btw does it matter if i matchmake for countdown on challenging even though i don’t know what i must do

[tropic sentinel]

Then go challenging.

[lunar hare]

Follow the team, Kill Hunters, go for the nearest two Encounters when finished with Hunters, Wait until the team arrives to Extraction, do NOT fire the flare until 5-10 seconds are left. Extract.

[hazy snow]

Why must I wait for the last 5-10 seconds?

[lunar hare]

So the team gets extra points and loot

[hazy snow]

Ah okey

[unique bramble]

Plus: don't die in the extraction phase, you can't respawn after the main objective is complete.

[lunar hare]

That and careful with those Extraction Hunters as they deal fk tons of DMG, have a ton of armor and one kit

[hazy snow]

Okey

[tender wave]

Just follow everyone else around and shoot bad guys and you'll be fine

Don't bring a skill build though

[lunar hare]

Please don't deploy Striker drone or any DMG skill

[unique bramble]

The hunters are also skill hackers.

[lunar hare]

We're preparing you to not get blamed/trash-talked or any other offensive people that may be there.

[hazy snow]

Other question about expertise I just used a website for creating a build and it’s said expertise 24 but what does that actually do?

[azure lintel]

yep plenty ppl usin drones/turrets that just get hacked and yes doesnt end up well

[hazy snow]

Also the fixer drone?

[lunar hare]

Eh, don't focus on Expertise and Weapon Expertise gives a 24% Weapon Damage up to 26%

[unique bramble]

On weapons, 1% expertise level = 1% weapon base damage

[azure lintel]

not sure dark i dont pay that much attention but i see ppl dying to their own drones at times

[hazy snow]

Cuz i usually run fixer drone and crusader shield

[lunar hare]

Shield is okay. but you're gonna get pulsed and get it put away

[unique bramble]

The shield is fine, just don't use the drone

[hazy snow]

Shouldn’t use the chem launcher then?

[azure lintel]

chem launcher can be good

[hazy snow]

For my heal instead of the drone

[lunar hare]

No drones nor turrets, that's all.

[hazy snow]

Pulsed?

[lunar hare]

or Stinger Hive

[unique bramble]

You can use anything that is not deployable (turrets, hive and drones)

[lunar hare]

EMP Pulse, deactivates your skills for a short period of time

[hazy snow]

And on gear

[azure lintel]

revive hive can come in clutch

[lunar hare]

oh yeah it can

[lunar hare]

Not worth the plus Armor Expertise

[hazy snow]

Ah okey thx

[lunar hare]

Trust me, almost no one uses gear expertise except for weapons or certain skills

[unique bramble]

It increases 1% base armor, and I know what you are thinking and No, it doesn't stack with blue core attributes, it only increases the standard armor that the level 40 gear has.

[hazy snow]

I just was curious

Cuz I didn’t know what it did

[lunar hare]

Ik ik, I also learned this not long ago

[azure lintel]

did a countdown earlier and 4 ppl downed to first hunter

challenging difficulty

[lunar hare]

foaming those hunters is key

[azure lintel]

think ima run foam + shield

usin striker + firewall

[unique bramble]

And banshee pulse too, since "confuse" status can stagger elite enemies for half a second.

[lunar hare]

Striker shield is so goddamn good

[lunar hare]

of course

[azure lintel]

hard to pick between gunner and firewall sometimes

[lunar hare]

I run Firewall at CD all the time and my mates kill so much quicker

[tropic sentinel]

Until foam doesn't even work half the time due to trash servers.

[lunar hare]

Works for me

[azure lintel]

best part is when shots dont register

[lunar hare]

I just have bad aim 😂

[lunar hare]

like R6 "hit rejected"?

[unique bramble]

Some people might disagree but I think that the firewall is overrated sometimes, don't get me wrong, the kit is good, but I think I prefer not running out of ammo at the worst moment and I like to use banshee

[azure lintel]

hits just dont deal any damage sometimes idk what causes it but ima assume servers

[lunar hare]

In order to get Hit rejected the game has to register a hit on an enemy

[tropic sentinel]

Or when hunters are surfing around lying half way on the floor.

[azure lintel]

that i havent seen yet

[hazy snow]

What the best way to farm points for specialization

[real creek]

Invaded missions give 5 points, projects reward some too, but the majority of points will come from just leveling naturally.

[hazy snow]

But what’s the best way?

[real creek]

To just do it. There isn't a best way exactly. Just run your weekly invaded and level up imo.

[hazy snow]

Okey thx

[main solstice]

Anyone managed to get the summer event boots? did a few stuff in group but it didn't count.

[hazy snow]

Btw what does overcharge with skills mean like I see it on the wiki for the striker shield but don’t know what it actually mean

[oak remnant]

I can’t find a group to do the summer project

[tender wave]

It's a temporary boost to skills that you can only get from certain talents (eg future perfect weapon talent, btsu gloves talent, acostas go bag talent)

[frigid lintel]

Summer event bugged day 2 lol

[iron gust]

? It's working

[frigid lintel]

done 4 or 5 grouped and still 0/2

[nimble fox]

Yes I ran around with a group doing part of the manhunt and got them

[spare cove]

Did you do open world activities like bounties and such?

[jovial sapphire]

did anybody else's mission at the bank reset mid mission

because what the f

[tender wave]

Did you leave the vault during the 'defend the vault' section? If you head out towards the enemy spawns while the timer's still going it will fail you instantly

[jovial sapphire]

manny told us to go outside

there wasnt anything left there idk

[grizzled heron]

If you land your shots you'd likely never run out of ammo

[hazy snow]

Thx

Other question is there a website that tracks the weekly invasions and weekly projects?

[grand swan]

Haha regulus goes boom boom

[tender wave]

Not sure if there's a website but they do post them in the community discord

[still juniper]

Hey kettle, what's the gearset that has lmg damage as it's first perk

It's pavlov or some similar shit, right?

[spare cove]

Petrov and it's a brand set

[hazy snow]

This discord?

[tender wave]

No, this is the official one. The community one has /thedivision in its address. I can't link it directly but you can find it using the server browser

[still juniper]

Thanks

[vestal marten]

Anyone know the best way to farm for striker set?

[soft stratus]

the same way you farm everything else that isn't yaahl: Challenging Countdown with Targeted Loot

[full zinc]

run shield and revive, revive might save you an early exit from the match. youll be disrupted a lot so skills will be down a lot

[nocturne frigate]

is it just me or was leto and hercules much more easier than echo

like the bounties were just hard bounties

[spare cove]

Who cares?

[nocturne frigate]

idk

[kind veldt]

it scales of your current world difficulty

unless you upgrade a control point, then it upgrades the difficulty ot the same

[hybrid ore]

There's no need to be rude, they're just making conversation.

@kind veldt Whilst that is true, the last few Bounties do scale up even when you're on Normal World Difficulty.

[fiery fog]

Is there no longer a chat room for the division 1?

[scarlet plume]

there is, you have to click the drop down arrow on "the division" category #td1-general

[full zinc]

Hit up channels and roles to get div1 role (or any other optional role)
Ide tag it but for some reason it wasnt letting me

[kind veldt]

well i guess i should have been more specific to say they can only scale as low as your own difficulty

[hybrid ore]

id:customize

[still juniper]

hey riven

hows it been

[hybrid ore]

Smokey and cold, like a bar in the 90's.

[still juniper]

good to hear? thats a vague and strange answer

i got good news though, i can drive now

[full zinc]

Watch out world

[still juniper]

piss off deck

im a good driver

[small spear]

you should apply for hyena controller role

[still juniper]

Who

[small spear]

the one who keeps saying "how do you like my driving"

[spare cove]

The ones with the RC Car Bomb

[still juniper]

no i mean who should

[small spear]

you duh

[stark heron]

Got some actual dumb luck today

Pulled a Bighorn from the DZ, and it wasn't even targeted ARs

And for some reason it was an empty dz

[hybrid ore]

Bighorn/EB/Rav's drop rates aren't altered by TL in the DZ.

[stark heron]

oh

[broken solstice]

thats encouraging. damn

[stark heron]

Well still I wasn't expecting it, its still pretty low odds to pull them

[hybrid ore]

Very low.
less than .1% kinda low.

[broken solstice]

i still have only gotten pestilence from the dz

[stark heron]

Pestilence isnt dz exclusive anymore

Hasn't been for ages

[broken solstice]

yea i know. it still drops a lot for me tho

[hybrid ore]

It does seem to be somewhat more weighted to drop there, it's like the Chameleon and Bounty Named Enemies, or the Kingbreaker in CD.

0.072% for the rav/eb/bighorn in the DZ, for the record.

[broken solstice]

i expect to never find any of those there

[hybrid ore]

That's a good attitude to have, Go to the proper place instead, MUCH faster.

[stark heron]

Jeez

Ngl I went dz for the jokes, I never go there

Only stayed for like an hour and a half cause it was a completely vacant dz

Gonna assume the summer event and other stuff is why

That or dz servers are scuffed

[hybrid ore]

Empty DZ servers are friendly DZ servers.

[stark heron]

Anyones gonna take advantage of that ngl

[azure lintel]

Hello, I m a new player, where can I see my K/D stats ?

[frosty wadi]

Why do you need to see kd stats

[lunar hare]

Hollywood Mortar is gonna be fun

[still juniper]

hey the spotter drone counts for the "kill 20 pulsed enemies" challenge right?

just tested, it does

[sullen compass]

anyone trynna grind my new character with me or just help me past aaron keener lmao i dont remeber this dude being hard like this

[serene gazelle]

hello everyone

i have a question
i am lvl 24 and what gun should i get?
i know the good stuff come at lvl 40
but what is the starter?
i want to lvl up fast and do tons of damage

any tip is much appreciated

[tiny oar]

anything close to your lvl : you get it

nothing else matters

[kind veldt]

dumb question about the project, activities dont count missions?

[tiny oar]

they should

[azure lintel]

So, the game has not K/D stats, or another type of stats

[tiny oar]

kd in a pve game ?

whats the point

[spare cove]

The only kd stats in this game is in Conflict and that's PvP

[kind veldt]

welp two missions in a group and no progress

[tiny oar]

well the devs must have seen you beeing mean so now they make you pay

[serene gazelle]

but what type of gun is the best?
i do like fast guns with high damage

[tiny oar]

none, a superior lvl weapon will always be better

dont bother ultil 40

[serene gazelle]

next question:
how do i lvl up FAST?

[tiny oar]

just do the story

[serene gazelle]

well i am lvl 25 now and story is lvl 26

do i do it?

[tiny oar]

then any side mission

[azure lintel]

Darkzone has K/D stats ?

[spare cove]

No

Conflict does

[serene gazelle]

what about weapon mods?
like muzzle or sight?

[kind veldt]

mostly want crits, extended mags 90% of the time

[tiny oar]

you dont have mods yets

[azure lintel]

Thank you for the answer, I m new to this game and I m more familiar with Ghost Recon, Caliber and Battlefield series.

[tiny oar]

i mean the ones you need

side missions will give you the mods you need

[serene gazelle]

i do though

[tiny oar]

not all

[serene gazelle]

i have 2 suppressors 7.62 and 5.56
vertical grip and a reflex sight

[tiny oar]

there is a fk ton more

[serene gazelle]

i see

[tiny oar]

the most important are the mag size

[serene gazelle]

how do i get those?

[tiny oar]

i told u, side missions will

[serene gazelle]

ah

so i got to lvl up first

damn

[tiny oar]

just do stuff, missions, activities, anything

lvl up happen fast

[full zinc]

Most of your mods/optimization blueprints will be farmed from level 40, challenging and higher controlpoints.

At current level just use what you have. Crit chance/damage, weapon handling, ammo capacity will be best if you have available

[west pilot]

Do weapon talents still work if the weapon is equipped but not in use?

[full zinc]

Only if the talent says on weapon swap. Or something sledgehammer that stays active after its procced.

Mostly you need to be holding to utilize

[kind veldt]

depends, if the talent caused an status effect or debuff that appears on top of the enemy, then you cna switch, if not then it needs to be on hands

[west pilot]

I see, thanks.

[kind veldt]

like lefty people ask all the time, the weapon needs to be on hands when the granade explodes and hits, you can switch before and after it procs and the icon is on top of the enemy head

[west pilot]

Exactly what I was looking at

[sour furnace]

Pls do another sale from division 2...i missed it bcs i was in the hospital....:( 😄

[azure lintel]

finally shdlvl 1000 🙂

[hybrid ore]

@opaque hedge No more of that.

[still juniper]

man that was a fun raid

[still juniper]

hey riv, do you know where ill get the best odds of getting bloody knuckles?

ive been doing countdown but no luck so far

[lunar hare]

?

[hybrid ore]

I'm not a Ubisoft Employee, but sure fill your boots.

[opaque hedge]

yes i will for suer

[hybrid ore]

@still juniper Exotics can be kinda tricky, but basically CD on Chall/Heroic, the right TL, and also make sure you buy an Exotic Cache from the CD vendor every 2-3 runs (it's a laptop at the White House, near the chopper but closer to the entrance).
even then, may take a while. gl Agent

[lunar hare]

You're just having bad luck, keep grinding as you'll get them eventually

[still juniper]

alright thanks, i was wondering if CD drop rates got nerfed or something, just my shit luck striking again lol

i appreciate the reassurance, im gonna go get back to it

[lunar hare]

Drop rates stay almost always untouched

[still juniper]

also, whats a good not rez hive gadget for an LMG DPS build? im using turret right now to eat some aggro

[hybrid ore]

Countdown really is best seen as a "quantity over quality" situation for loot.

[tiny oar]

xd

[still juniper]

the more things that drop, the more chances there are for the thing you want to drop

[tiny oar]

people be mad sometimes

like chill

[hybrid ore]

I think Lyfe is having their own thing right now.

[lunar hare]

been searching for about two to three weeks now for a yellow Setup
I got a curse.

[still juniper]

lyfes been having a thing since last night

real aggravating i think, accusing us of trashing on the devs when we just dislike the exotics lately

[hybrid ore]

Everyone's gotta have a hobby.
although it's best if they're less destructive to others.

[still juniper]

hey riven, are you a fan of LMG builds?

[tiny oar]

oh well, its not like i was trashing people

so its w/e

[hybrid ore]

Not overly, when I do play it's mostly MMR stuff.

[azure lintel]

TY Division team for adding Steam achievements

[night plinth]

who else kills enemies like john wick in this game?

[small spear]

depends on what you mean

[night plinth]

I do it two ways. The first is kneecap shots, then torso, then finish with a headshot. the second I just hip fire into the torso then finish with a headshot, then dive roll into cover then continue. anybody else do that?

[small spear]

i just kill them with a single headshot

[night plinth]

Too easy and boring.

[small spear]

i don't think you see how i do it but ok

i speedrun a lot of legendary

it's not like you stagger enemies by hitting multiple body parts like resident evil 4

[tiny oar]

i dont think legendaries are easy

[real creek]

They pretty easy once you understand them.

[small spear]

if you want to kneecap then shoot an arm then the head like role playing it then sure, just good luck doing it in the content i play lol

[kind veldt]

well they have their own scale

union arena is chill

zoo and tidal are not chill

[tiny oar]

tfw the loot goblin gives you the same item 3 times in a row while you try to get them all

rnjesus please what more do i have to sacrifice

[small spear]

how many orphans you want me to give to lootcifer

[full zinc]

You're sending sacrifices to the wrong deity
🔥😈🔥

[small spear]

give me all your chameleons

[mellow sedge]

Do we have to Kill Keaner for a level 40 alt?
Hit 40 and so far I can't get the watch to trigger

[tawny breach]

sidemission quartermaster

[tiny oar]

Please sir I only have that one

[potent condor]

is that a rivens

[desert sluice]

Anyone find the COOLER?

[heavy prism]

I would but can your character handle it

It's >999

[kind veldt]

it's going to be from the summer projects

[still juniper]

hey bird, i got good news

the sentry gun build is working wonders, ive cleared the incursion and iron horse with it today alone

[kind veldt]

snetry and what else?

[still juniper]

no the build where i become a sentry

bullet king, strikers, and right now coyote mask but soon it will be bloody knuckles

with headshots, a good crit rate, and full striker stacks i can get a million per shot with bullet king

[still juniper]

im working on unlocking gunner so i get extra damage if i stand in the same spot

[opal radish]

Across 4 different characters

I knly got 511 pcs of 5.11 gearset

[inner elbow]

Ngl I almost had a heart attack thinking it was an afk brain-off build

[still juniper]

it is

you just hold on the trigger and point your gun at anything that moves

[cyan narwhal]

is all bounty targets have voice changed into chungas?

[small spear]

named enemies all have that trait yes

not just bounty targets

[cyan narwhal]

they didnt have their helmets

[small spear]

yes, they don't have to. most named enemies will have that trait even if they don't

[cyan narwhal]

never had that before

[wise basalt]

is there an ads bug? every time I scope in using right mouse button, it's always flash scoping in and out. very jarring

[honest sequoia]

loot goblin isn’t spawning for me /:

[azure lintel]

Whatever happened to ubisoft server for discord

[tropic sentinel]

Nothing?

[full zinc]

youre currently in it.
if youre talking about the ubisoft support discord it is linked in the pins of channel #unofficial-troubleshooting .
if youre talking about the voice channels then ubisoft removed them a while back

[lunar hare]

Log out, fast travel to JTC/DCDHQ/ DZ South Entrance
Those locations are more susceptible for the goblin to come out

[soft stratus]

so apparently Emperor's Guard is a unicorn, and i dismantled 2 of em and now want em back

[worthy onyx]

Not that much of a unicorn, they drop quite often if the targeted loot in a dz is murakamis

[soft stratus]

i didn't get it from DZ =.=

cuz i ain't never stepping foot in that place

[worthy onyx]

I mean with the recent bracketing most dz'es are deserted if you don't want to fight other people

[undone timber]

Only with good rolls

[iron gust]

Emperor's guard blueprint is a blessing

[spare cove]

^

[soft stratus]

wait

[hazy snow]

Hey all I want to farm targeted loot on countdown on challenging but I never done that mode would you recommend to run one run on normal just to check out how it works and then do it on challenging?

[soft stratus]

since i dismantled it, do i have the blueprint?!

[soft stratus]

run it on Challenging. you'll be running around most of the time just collecting loot

[worthy onyx]

You have to get the blue print through playing descent

[hazy snow]

So I should not do it on normal once to see how it works?

[soft stratus]

Countdown is what everyone and their mom uses to farm loot. on Challenging. have you heard the term, zerg, before?

[hazy snow]

No what is Zerg?

[soft stratus]

follow the zerg

in other words, where everyone else is going, follow them

[hazy snow]

Okey

[soft stratus]

and don't use skills

unless it's your chem launcher, shield, trap, or Pulse

you can literally kill everyone if you bring anything but those 4 skills

[hazy snow]

Btw how high is the chance of getting a exotic on challenging countdown

[soft stratus]

Pray to RNGesus

[hazy snow]

Do you mean the healing versions of chem launcher and trap?

[soft stratus]

any Pulse, any Chem, any Trap, any Shield is ok

but expect to be EMP'ed near the end

[hazy snow]

Okey thx

[grand swan]

Talking about chem launcher

If you got enough head hunter stacks you can kill an enemy by hitting them with the foam launcher

[hazy snow]

Btw how much does adding 1 directive fog of war help for getting exotics or targeted loot

[grand swan]

The more you have the higher the drop rate is

[hazy snow]

Is headhunter a gear/brand set?

[grand swan]

It's a named item mainly used on hitkill builds

The chainkiller

O forgot

[hazy snow]

Do we know how much more chance per directive btw?

[grand swan]

I think 5%

Might be wrong

[hazy snow]

What type of weapon btw?

[grand swan]

It's a chest piece

[azure lintel]

Not sure if this was a glitch or stealth nerf but I was in Heroic Countdown last night and my trusty Disrupt Immune build wasn't working against the opening Hunters. Anyone experience this issue? Going to try again today.

[hazy snow]

Oh sorry misunderstood that sentence then XD

[grand swan]

[hazy snow]

Btw if I die in the bit you can’t respawn it will I still have my loot then in countdown?

[grand swan]

Yup

Just not your extraction guarantee

[hazy snow]

Will just miss out on the final loot

[grand swan]

Yep

You still have everything you gathered

[hazy snow]

Extration guarantee? Do you mean like guarantee targeted loot item or what do you mean?

[grand swan]

Get extracted or get the other hunters' loot

You won't guarantee to have that

Only the items you got before dying

[hazy snow]

Now I’m even more confused

[azure lintel]

Extraction gives you bonus countdown currency to spend. It's huge bonus.

[grand swan]

I meant: If you get killed in the extraction phase, you won't get credits for success or the other items (If you haven't got It)

You can't get revived btw

During extraction phase

[hazy snow]

Other question about this if I leave loot on the ground will it auto collect everything I haven’t collected once I extract cuz I can’t comeback to the loot

[azure lintel]

No

[soft stratus]

can i get Chill Out from Countdown? the spreadsheet says, "Christmas Loot Goblin" as its only source

[tropic sentinel]

Well hoarder does not spawn in countdown, so no.

[hazy snow]

Not even reviver hive?

[grand swan]

No

[grand swan]

If you get taken down nope

[tropic sentinel]

If you go down you can get revived. If you die you can't.

[soft stratus]

can i get it from the Named Item Cache bought with Countdown credits?

[grand swan]

Nope, just loot goblin

[soft stratus]

during Christmas...

[grand swan]

Exactly, nope

[tropic sentinel]

It's dropping now as well due to summer event.

[hazy snow]

Can I not use it if I go down to just revive me or not at all?

[grand swan]

If you die no, If you get down yes

[hazy snow]

Okey thx

So what would you recommend to use reviver hive and ?

[tropic sentinel]

Foam/banshee pulse.

[grand swan]

Foam launcher or crusader shield

Foam to imobilize hunters

[hazy snow]

What did banshee pulse do again

[tropic sentinel]

Confuses enemies.

[hazy snow]

Ah okey thx

[hazy snow]

Btw why no healing skill?

[tropic sentinel]

But it's only usable with gunner so if you like other specs then use foam or such.

[grand swan]

If you got a heal build then use it if you want

[hazy snow]

I made a loadout in game to prep for countdown i believe i had gunner on there

[grand swan]

Great support for those with low armor and high armor

[hazy snow]

I don’t it’s just why no heal skill

[grand swan]

Cuz majority sucks without skill tiers

Mainly drone or mender seeker

[hazy snow]

Or is armor on kill a better way

[grand swan]

Could work

[tropic sentinel]

It's faster to heal with medkit than some useless tier 0 skill. Also something like drone/seeker gets hacked, so you can only use heal chem launcher, which sucks even more at tier 0.

[hazy snow]

And heal trap

[grand swan]

"lemme just steal your private healing property"

[tropic sentinel]

No one uses heal trap ever.

[grand swan]

Even worse dude

[hazy snow]

I don’t know haven’t used it yet just remembered it had a heal version

[grand swan]

[hazy snow]

Does banshee pulse also reveal enemies?

[tropic sentinel]

Yeah, but usually you use on enemies that you already see.

[hazy snow]

Ah okey thx

[tropic sentinel]

But yeah, they get that yellow outline.

[hazy snow]

I’ll see what I run when I’m home

Btw how good is chameleon exotic im asking for my loadout for countdown with my current gear I have

[tropic sentinel]

Not good due to crappy spread.

[soft stratus]

ty for telling me this, jus got him! and it rolled max armor too!

[hazy snow]

Okey what about named invisible hand

[tropic sentinel]

Between those 2 better use chameleon then. But that gun is more like smg than AR. So you will need to run up closer to enemies.

[hazy snow]

Okey thx

What about merciless exotic?

[tropic sentinel]

It's a rifle, so have fun killing your lmb.

[hazy snow]

Other question related to targeted loot is it the same for everyone

Cuz if so can someone if they have time to hop in game to check what it is on all 5 invaded missions minus DCD headquarters?

[primal skiff]

ok forgive me if am wrong but leto frog bounty the "target nearby" was not manny

[flat flower]

Chameleon works for countdown but the issue as previously stated is the spread at long range. Up close, I recommend it. Shooting at a distance? You'd be better off with a St Elmo's/Eagle Bearer or any high end assault rifle

[hazy snow]

I don’t have eagle bearer or st Elmo I was asking for gear I have

[flat flower]

Set target loot for AR in countdown, ask if anyone gets it could they please drop, then every 2 or 3 runs buy an exo caches

[hazy snow]

I am hunting for my whole build

https://mxswat.github.io/mx-division-builds/#/IwWgTCDMKhAsA2GBWETgQyADDvuCAuSCaXWEADlGFS3IgP30IQHZwpP44Y3sBudJkbMm2QpU7lmtNGIVEwATmkxZqJOMU5CKtaCZytO8XoRJewLMEqrgy8sprLM5VGEN7kqq9g7a5O4wjIQYliDIHFJCvEEoLGzEmqhsoOwgbAB0dLjZqBJwoGxSlNBsqqWROEA

This is my build I’m hunting for

[thick zephyr]

Any bugs with the summer event?
I did one mission with a group and one activity with a group but the summer event doesn't count.

[hazy snow]

how good is the technician specialization cuz it’s the only one I don’t have unlocked yet

[serene gazelle]

question:
do i use tinkering station at lvl 30?
and how and what does it do?

[tropic sentinel]

Don't bother tinkering at level 30. All that gear will go to trash.

[winter elm]

Does anyone not get count for the second summer project? Yesterday I did fine, today it no longer count the missions

[real creek]

Missions are not considered activities for it.

[azure lintel]

• 1,8b damage kek

minus

[broken solstice]

(if you haven't) I would try closing the game and ubi connect. maybe restart the system for good measure, and try it again. maybe other people are experiencing the same problem but I had no trouble. also, maybe if you ran invaded missions, those dont count for some reason? just closing ubi connect and logging in again has solved so many problems of this nature for me. i dont mean to make assumptions, im sure youve done that stuff but i mention it just in case.

[serene gazelle]

i just unlocked signature weapons and i am confused
how do i get ammo for it?

i have the sniper

[real creek]

Wait until you learn about the integer limit and negative numbers...

[azure lintel]

yea i looked it up and iv no idea how it work

[broken solstice]

it means you won usually

[serene gazelle]

guys?

[real creek]

Once you hit 4,294,967,296 you'd turn to -4,294,967,296 and go back toward 0 and once you hit 0 you'll go back positive and go back and forth.

[real creek]

Gals?

[serene gazelle]

no i mean can somebody pls answer my question

not as in guys or gals

[real creek]

Kill stuff.

You have an orange bar that fills to the left of your ammo/buffs hud.

[serene gazelle]

.

[serene gazelle]

but when i fill that bar nothing happens

[real creek]

Ammo drops.

If you die you loose it, if you swap spec you loose it.

Wait do you loose it on death? idr

[broken solstice]

dont you get spec ammo for the tac 50 from headshot kills?

[serene gazelle]

so wait
if i fill that bar the ammo drops?
where?

[serene gazelle]

exactly

[real creek]

On your person. If you are full it'll just sit on the ground.

[broken solstice]

yeah you can carry like 6 or something like that

[small spear]

what a nerd

next you're going to tell me you speedrun this game

[serene gazelle]

not cool

[tender wave]

It drops from the next enemy you kill. It's bright orange so very visible.

[broken solstice]

i cant remember, do you need to have anything activated in the specialization tree to get the ammo?

[real creek]

Nope, am washed out and done yo, didn't you know?

[small spear]

what a coincidence. i too have fallen off

[real creek]

Toasty went ham on tidal and they finally decided to get a new WR for incursion.

[small spear]

damn

[azure lintel]

There was a ubisoft server but it's gone

[small spear]

? wdym the ubisoft server is still here

[small spear]

so did they get it yet?

[real creek]

Yeah they got it last night. 6:16 I'm not sure if they are gonna keep going on it or not. I kinda wanna create comp for them tho... idk

[small spear]

ya gotta join forces souless. unlike me you still got the kicks