#td2-general-chat
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That didn't work either. Creating a level 1 and getting the first part done. Boosted to wony for level 30. Completed intro to wony. Fast travel to DC. Only project is decent. Sid capital stronghold even though it showed completed. Still no projects. I watched tux earlier. He had just gotten to DC, had the project for ShD opened exotic cache and got a lvl 31 exotic. I havnt had anyone else confirm that you can get it. I've tried 3 different boosts now and doing random stuff still no projects for level 30-39 chars
I make a control point and pass both stages. When I exit and enter the game, the control point I received is gone. Is this a bug?
you dont boost to wony. boost but stay iin dc. store> addons
it could have been changed with the last patch though
I can test it tonight.
much appreciated, let me know if you need someone for a watch run 💯
I'll try that now
Now that I'm giving it thought, the SHD project at 30 doesn't make sense anymore, it's not a stopping point for end game anymore, just a level you can jump to that starts the DLC... I bet that project doesn't exist at all anymore.
its very possible
it didnt make much sense prior to patch either since shd watch wasnt available until 40
That's bad advice imo, door camp all day. Letting ads roam around only makes things harder.
@cyan thunder would you mind explaining why you spamming reactions in everybody's text in every channel
Is there any value in the Div1 collectors watch anymore?
Probably
i have one, it's too small to let my hand in
Rip
obviously looking for attention 
sweet! getting 5th toon slot
Pretty bruh
unsure, have to see how it fleshes out at beginning of next season
why would i feel any way about seasonal characters when i have no idea how its actually going to function yet
i'm happy i don't have to blow up a mule to play
The same way you know McDonald’s is going to hit when you haven’t been to that location before
That worked
based on what i know from other games, pretty fucking mad
uh hello does div 2 not have hte optoin like 1 to check the map for collectiables you missed?
it is impossible for me, i get killd in the second map
damn it. bravo error. ubisoft services are not available. noooo
wait im in. sweet
So it worth it buy season pass with rewards?
so did they go back on the seasonal charecters
they havent even explained properly what it is, using other games as refference people are not happy
isnt it out already?
No and they haven't told us much on how they will work.
I think they put out a bit of info and wanted to get feedback before finalizing things, it's more speculation tho.
I doubt they will let us have 5 characters
“Will get added to the roster”
More like delete a character to progress
Damen u rly want have business with admins?
@cyan thunder dude stop liking everyones messages
Admins where are u ???
It's really not a big deal...
Well it is
Modmail
do we have a GE calendar yet?
Ty
yup, more funny and a little sad is all
idk if one was published but ingame menu> seasons should give a breakdown
Anyone else not looking forward to season characters?
Yes me
at the season's "vendor", yeah
Personal opinion: This is the worst idea they could ever come up with. Like I feel attached to my character. Not because of the look or the gear or anything like that, but because of the story and what they have been through. Now I have to play a random agent to continue the story? Come on, don’t do this Ubisoft
Absolutely everyone didn't like that upcoming change.
Everyone rates his to down
Maybe they’ll treat it like they did Heartland and cancel the idea🙄
1 in a 1000000 chances that happens
Remeber gear lock?
Cancel and disregard the good, keep the bad…
Yea
Thank an outspoken community for it not being here.
Stop react
Just ignore the reacts. The only way it'll stop is if they take it away from us again.
Even if they proceed with this, the community has the power to change this, just like happened to helldivers 2
What happend to divers2?
How do you not know about that...
I never played that
It was covered by almost everyone across all platforms.
sony did a big fuckup, game broke records of negative review bombing ot the point they rolled back
Oh well i see now
Oh yeah
Long story short: Sony did something to the game that even the devs didn't like it, so the community stranded together against this and Sony didn't go with the change
Wow man
When they did the region locks I was like WTF
Thats fucked up
I remember that. Forcing a PSN account I think, so the community stopped playing and rated negative reviews until they said they wouldn’t go forward with the plan.
They required you to have a PSN linked and tons of countries can't get PSN accounts. That shit was wild.
I would like to point out that the swan for leto league has no textures
Great effort massive is putting in each season
Remember when Amherst said that greed is killing the planet in the div1? that also applies to games aswell.
Those things are really different tho
'Inspect' option is bugged, screen is blacked out. Anyone has a solution?
Pray the devs fix it soon no other option
At least one thing disappears each season, there was the expertise menu, then the UI and now the build inspection screen.
same
i really hope they drop this seasonal character bs. i have 1000+ hrs on this game and want to play with that char as often as possible and most importantly whenever I see fit (descent doesnt work with main char obv haha). even if the seasonal characters will be merged to the main char after season's end. new seasons are the perfect content for using the gear and weapons i've collected over 1000 hours.
this whole seasonal character thing can be compared to someone owning several sports cars who turns up to actual races in a prius...
bruh
Regardless it's not the players fault they addressed the issue poorly
If they had a better communication plan maybe the backlash wouldn't have been so big. Now they gotta somehow fiz the damage
Yeah but i get why they want to implement seasonnal characters, every new season, there is no difficulty in the content because we are already max stuff
I mean the new season progression can be tied to the character progression. And if you have a character full maxed out then it could not work
Let's firstly wait and see how it works and then comment how bad it is 😂😅
I'm just really curious for more details, it could be good or completely horrible
I am all hands in for new interesting ways to play
indeed
but i dont like it if i lose everything
Yeah exactly, seasons are really redundant
Had the same issue this morning, but it worked this afternoon.
If it's gonna be slightly similar to diablo 4 that every season brings up some stuff that makes builds different, then I am really excited about it
Ppl didn’t like descent and they doubled down
It may be like No man's sky seasonnal characters, which people like apparently
The thing that concerns me the most is the new difficulty, that is made for 4 players, so if you play solo, it's either heroic which is too easy, or the new one that is too hard)
All new missions feel harder because it's new, we don't have the spawns/encounters memorized. It'll feel good on heroic until you know everything about it.
Yeah but even so, i'm not great at the game by any means, but i died like once on the climax mission on a spawn behind me, and once to the hunter
Imo the only thing that can actually kinda make it hard if there is emp's everywhere and you can't use any skills that would be a game changer
I didn't do last seasons manhunt. I did the recruiter blind and heroic 5D tho. That was fun.
I thought it was cool, the spawns were really clever
Damen u still not done that trolling?
dont really consider it trolling at this point, i think hes just a mime thats really bad at his job
The more attention you drag him, the more he won't want to leave.
see XD
that's Raucey
They just wanna be part of the convo but are shy.
well i not need worry about him now he will get business with admins
Pls no admins. I wanna keep reacts yo.
no reacts its spamming
It's so much easier to react with something you agree with vs typing out a message.
have u checked rules?
Well that takes care of that
Did he just got kicked?
i told admin what to do with him
he's still here
rotor blaaades, yeaaah!
he got what he deserved
🚁
Manny: target eliminated, well done agent.
If they make very large changes to gameplay mechanics, like a Global Event+++++, most of the current theorycrafting/builds would likely be suboptimal. Which would lead to the community complaining about having to grind out new gear and how Massive is making the players throw away hundreds of hours of grinding for their current builds. All to make builds that are only going to be used for just 4 months. So, I get having a Season Agent for that reason. I'm skeptical about the whole idea and if they will actually make it worth it, because if the gameplay mechanic changes amount to nothing more than a stock Global Event, it's going to be worthless. They really needed to show an example of what they are talking about, now and not a week before it goes live.
Hrm why does waiting till 2100 takes longer than waiting for day. Sad face.
hours are actually not the same duration or something like that
Nah, Seasonal Characters for a game like The Division is nonsense. I rather farm equipment on my main every season, just to have the best of the best than farming from lvl 0 to lvl 40 every season just to have it. I mean, with my main I can directly start farming for the ''god roll'' pieces, but when I have to start from scratch, I have to take every piece and the work up to the ''god roll'' stuff. Which is annoying considering there are people out there, like me, who do not have the amount of time to that every season. #
also i thin you only have 8 hours of night compared 16h or daytime
He put screenshots in another discord calling yall sensitive
Seasonal Characters should be an option, for people who want to do that and have the time to do that. But it shouldn't be forced onto everyone.
so be it i dont care
we have diablot style loot, we dont have diablo style characters, progression and etc
everyone starts teh same and with teh same skills, specializations are not meaningful enough to replace classes/jobs
Want to say that and yet want to go to extreme lengths to get them banned over something that wasn't against the rules. No where in that rule does it specify reacting/reactions as spam.
so u now want continue? jezz please stop
if people have community issues, contact modmail over it, dragging a fight dont help anyone
true end of conversation
now that i think of it
what happens if you get into DZ at lv 31-39
before you had the split, now i am bit curious
I only would consider seasonal characters if you get the chance to switch sides and either become a rogue agent and join keener or become a hunter or something like that. But seasonal characters just to stay in the Division as an Agent is just lazy and nonsense.
Personally, I wanted to join either the Hunters or the Rogue Agents back in Division 1 already. I always thought that the Government Agency is suspicious and honestly, I think Keener is more right than wrong, although some of his actions are questionable.
plot wise it went from fighting for the survivors over a sudden tragedy that split people in extreme conditions
to regular conspiracy theory, NWO was behind everything and they are actually your boss
its not big deal if i choose to join keener i choose him
And considering that Faye Lau and now Kelso joined Keener means something we might not know yet.
Injustice??
You cared enough to think that's me while I watched all of this unfold at work.
i muting u out
Do you feel this is injustice?
best buton mute
Only rogue agent disconnect communication :))
haha very funny
So sensitive gn end of conversation
Yeah injustice in this div2 server
I agree
Why I can’t inspect other player’s build anymore
we dont know so prob a bug
I really wouldn't mind if they made event mechanics that would require me to make a specialised build on my existing character. That's a hundred times better than having to do that on top of also levelling a new character from scratch and losing expertise; talent and attribute library; and, resources.
Not a fan of this stick with no carrot
I need the aaron keener bundle to come back 
if they add again that would be good
if d4 would now announce that theres no need for a new char in seasons anymore and all you do is play is 1 maxed out char it would be the same shitfest just the other way around
ppl play d4/poe like games couse they want that system
i play td2 couse i dont have to start over every fkn season
Seems like a good way to lower potential income.
People not wanting to level a new agent through the season would probably not be buying premium track. Also probably just play a different game for the lack of content since season would be locked...
This late in the game it's probably not the best thing to make drastic changes . Jmho
Thanks
Thanks
why are my demolisionist explosives not going off when i shoot them 🤠
It ain't got no gun powder in it
lol, fr tho i’m assuming it’s a glitch
I think that would be a better way to do Season thing.
so it appears that still, control control leaders will not revive you if melee’d or burned while reviving you
Reassigned 
GLASS CANNON
might be based
i could never run glass cannon with my dogwater fps 💔
was watching videos on watch mules. So I have 0 shd pts on main character, if I lvl up my 3 mules to lvl 40, will those characters also end up with 0 shd pts or will they have shd pts equal to the shd lvl on my main character which is around 3550 rn, so in total I will have 10,650 shd pts to now spend on my main?
All your mules will have (3550-800) SHD points to spend on their own
If you don't already have 4 characters and you're SHD 3550 I'd abuse the F out of the SHD watch to level your proficiency and roll Unicorn gear. Don't be like me and do things the hard way. I refused to delete any of my 4 characters.
Why my Lefty lost it's colors?
Good evening everyone, can anyone update me if the developers said anything about this seasonal character mess?
Worry about it next season 🙂 nothing to be done about it
just to add, youll have to spend the points on the alt, but mats will be shared. expertise is also account wide so you can level that on an alt and itll be reflected on the main
The division 2 will become a dead game:P
I ran the 1st part of the manhunt on 2 characters 5 directives, and I realized I never bugged Fragile Armor, and I was all like "HOLY S. THEY FIXED IT! PRAISE MASSIVE, PRAISE SEASONAL CHARACTERS" and then I realized I just never lost all my armor and fragile armor is actually still broken.
A lot of people will stop playing it, this mechanic is tiring and rubbish
depends on how they implement it
You cannot stop the Massive train. They gonna do Massive stuff.
I want it to be as I think it is
Just a mechanic to help newbies and not something that will force veteran players to create a character like Diablo
I want to play the story with my main character that I spent hours on. Not another character
i hear that. im 6500+ hrs in at this point
There is nothing wrong with the ARPG seasonal model IMO... because it's an ARPG. DIvision isn't an ARPG. Ubisoft Executives legitimately don't understand the difference, and they've ordered Massive to do something and Massive is gonna do it. Nothing you can do about it. I'm gonna play what I'm playing (5k hours SHD 15K) and if the season sucks I'll just stop playing and play something else.
doesnt seem the biggest deal if they add one more agent slot that is dedicated seasonal. the change is probably to slow people down since most normally have the season track done within a week
🫥
i mean i worked to get my regulus and i want to use it as fun pistol build and not left it to rot because devs gave up
The amount of work they've have to put into the seasonal model to make it work is far beyond the paygrade of The D2 Bucharest team, just a fact. Are they gonna "remove expertise?" are they gonna make getting Unicorn pieces easier in season? are they gonna massively up the amount of materials we collect? are they gonna just autofill up the SHD watch and make all the specializations unlocked from the get-go?
I love the game, but I hate how this season 2.0 update seems to be
replayability from lv1 to 40 is not this game strong aspect
Worse than this is the only game I love grinding
td2 is an on and off game for me, i do buy season passes, i usually play the whole manhunt at the end of it all together
but i only do it couse i dont have to make a new char every fkn season
My God, what a fucking good game. I love him, but if I can't use my builds or my shared inventory with this other character. I give up on The Division and go play Barbie
Like a Barbie videogame or the actual dolls?
A Barbie ps2 game or Zelda, I don't know
barbie souls like when?
LOL
I already bought the Elden Ring DLC, unfortunately the Brazilian monetary situation is sad
I paid 200 reais for this DLC. For you, it would be like paying more than 100 dollars for it.
I don't know the price of this DLC in dollars, I beg your pardon
I think our friends in Dollary Doo land pay more than 100 USD as well, I feel for both of you.
wha? elden ring DLC is R$154.00 on steam
Look in PlayStation
oh yeha then you fucked, sorry about that sony cut is just stupidly high
It's 250R$ on pre-sale, it's rubbish
I chose to play on console unfortunately, I must bear the consequences
I thank your countrymen for helping keep DIvision alive. I'm in the US and I matchmake with Brazilians ALL the time.
They don't say anything to me, nor me to them, but we shoot White Tusk and have fun.
So many time travelers in the community 😭 I wonder how I can have access to one.
They seem to know that the Seasonal Characters are bad before it was released! That's like knowing someone's child will end up being a criminal before they were even born!
Wtf white tusk
Tried to run countdown, they changed the spawn in location. Threw me off for a minute lol
so they fixed it.
hi i need some help
so before this update, i didnt have wony and as such i got to a high shd lvl with some nice gear and all that
and then everything updated to lvl 40
now thats fine i can regrind, but ive based heavily around a grenadier build with the festive delivery backpack
and that got turned in a lvl 30 item now
soooo do i have to wait 6 months to get another one?
or i can just try fighting everything with 200k less armor
How did you get to lv 40 without WoNY?
new update
getting from lvl 30 to 40 was a piece of cake
considering that my grenadier build just shredded everything
But you said before this update
and then
Ah so you completed WONY
You'll have to wait for the next event
Which is irrelevant now since you now have access to a proper explosives build
wdym
there are much stronger explosive setups at lv40
yeah but festive delivery is just so powerful for a solo
eh
ok
and legendary
just get lv40 gear and make lv40 builds
Make a proper explosives build
i assume i need mad bomber first right?
no
you don't use grenades
Does anyone know if I have to do all of Kenly College in one playthrough or if I can save and go back later? I just finished the Student Union tonight only
grenades deal pitiful damage compared to something like a mortar
3pc Empress + 2pc Hana-U + 1pc China Light
That's a basic build
which, there's a guide
thx
so in the meantime, what should i do
while i grind for this build
get a striker build
that gets you through almost all content in this game, so you can make other builds
i can upgrade exotics right?
yes
You can reconfigure lv 30 ones to lv 40
i alr have a bloody knuckle
mid range to close range yeah
are btsu gloves good or nah?
also uh where did all of my projects go?
i only see the descent project
BTSU has niche uses for some skill players
people do use them in incursion
people use teh bloody knuckles for the extra damage if you hit an enemy with a granade more than the melee part
Gone, lv 40s only get daily and weekly projects.
Including the SHD requisition, Summit, Descent and Legendary projects
Yeah my daily and weeklies aren’t there anymore
Huh
and that's all that matters
i'm tmepted to reinstall WoW
verify the files ig
what's the error?
OSCAR -01
Looks like you might not have allowed the game through your firewall, or you have a VPN on and that might be whats causing the error.
You have to check your firewall settings, or your antivirus settings. Or a VPN might be interfering. I cant give you step by step instructions.
So that rules that out. Check your firewall and see if you've accidentally blacklisted Division 2.
Yes, make sure its set to allow
Then check your antivirus settings and make it so your antivirus wont try to mess with Div2, and if that doesnt work i'm out of ideas.
Rufmord ist strafrechtlich zu verfolgen. Das ihr mich aufgrund von falschen Behauptungen kickt ist nicht schlimm, denn das Klima ist mehr als fraglich. Redest von cheats aber weißt nicht was das ist und sagt derjenige der monatelang einen cheater aus seinem eigenen Umfeld im Clan hatte. Ich weiß genau was bei euch abgeht und schreibt. Das ihr eigene cheater habt ist ok. @hollow sapphire sollte der Text nicht verschwinden, sehe ich mich gezwungen Maßnahmen einzuleiten
oke i change some setting let me see
English only in the chats, please- you can use the LFG chats in your language but this is primarily an english speaking server.
I am sorry thx
Quick question. I just returned to TD2 after ages and heard about countdown mode. 2 runs fetch me an exotic crate. Are raids and summits now pointless to farm????
No. Raids are not useless or pointless, they are run every day by almost everyone.
Raids drop exclusive weapons and Summit drops an exotic Chestpiece when reaching floor 100 with all the keys.
Wouldn’t buying exotic crates give a drop chance for them too? Or is the loot table separate??
Separate for raids and DZ.
Anyone has problem inspecting other players in Countdown on PC? Their gear doesn't show. Just their character.
Okay okayyy
Yep, not only at countdown fyi
Ok, thanks.
Raid exotics are exclusive to the raids themselves, even if you have the blueprint. The summit exotic on the other hand gets added to the loot pool after you get it the first time.
Ahhh like eagle bearer?? Gotcha.
Exactly
So if I want to farm Elmo, i can do countdown or raids for it?
you can get ravenous & eagle bearer from the DZ
Think it’s ultra rare
True, farming for one and extracting would give people bragging rights
what is going on with the game today? Radom craches and Mike01 all time, after update ubi connect!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Ι believe this game will never play normally 6 years now....very disappointing Very disappointing i have 7100 hours in game and for a few moments I have enjoyed it
300ish SHD lvl
I was lucky to get Eagle in the 1st raid run. Ravenous doesn’t strike a bell
ravenous is from iron horse
I got rav from my first and then eagle from my second dh run like 40 minutes after beating IH💀
I'm confused, you've put 7k hours in but only enjoyed it for mere minutes? Are you saying you played the game and didn't like it? Lol
Hi everyone, did they remove the 'special ammo' directive with the last update?
Nope Wrong phrasing, but I wanted to say don't get attached to it, but every now and then something happens and it spoils your enjoyment
@outer cairn yo this u? in game?
yes
welp this one dont have VC i in the other one?
ok
ping me over there once u in
Mine says server restarting in 45 mins
Probably just the bug, that happens sometimes, even when there's no maintenance incoming.
So much for hope
Also they didn't rotate the appeal cache items
Don't worry, I experienced another lovely bug where I went to ADS and my camera spun around my character instead of following where I was aiming. I could only walk in 1 direction as well 😒
:pains:
If you ads with the capacitor looking towards the ground your character will rotate 😀
Wtf 💀💀💀
Nah season 6 is flat out broken this is wild
Oh it still exists lol i first saw it when the incursion released
Even more wtf 💀💀💀💀💀💀 a bug being that long on a game is insanity
You should have seen them fixing the explosive trap glitch on DZ after 1 year 
Was funny seeing people walk out of the checkpoint then immediately getting blown up
Ive seen way too many people in videos abusing that... Ugh that was so dirty
How the hell is keener back?
He didn't die, he stayed alive and went into a coma. There is a season where at the end of the hunt he is hospitalized.
I see. Do we get a new skill for the manhunt or anything this season? I saw the 2 exotics were apparently a shotgun that only did slow affects and speed knees. Kinda just decided it wasnt worth reinstalling over that alone
We don't have any new skills, maybe new skills will only come next year since that's when we will have the new DLC
Lame. Skip season for me then.
Play man, go for me. Maybe Keener can get us to join him after this time.
The next one will definitely be a zucchini just to say that there was a season, and when the DLC arrives we will have the choice of being a Division agent or a Rogue
Yeah ill prolly wait till we get the dlc since im an exotic chaser
and so far this seasons gear set and exotics both look kinda...bad. Yeah its for MMRS and Rifles but eh.
Just read the road ahead article, im actually impressed that they managed to use about 8 paragraphs to describe nothing and that there are no new features coming to the game.
Thats ubisoft for ya.
they love nothingburgers to hide the ye olde "We AREN'T listening!"
The santelmo was the best weapon so far for me
Ider what mine was. I likes it and lung, the bee couldve had potential. If it worked on bosses
They even used headers in bold like there were features or subjects being added, each one said virtually nothing while plugging buzzwords like "exciting" "new" and "experience"
I necessarily need a dark winter build to play solo
Ubisofts clearly in their dying breaths phase atp. With the weak roadmap on div2 atm, and whst they did to siege >.>
I just want to know about the pre-sale of the new Brooklyn DLC
Ueah if theyd give us something on the expansion at least id be happier
but im not buying early. I learned my lesson with how they ghosted the game
cuz theres a solid chance it ends up being shit in tinfoil
They could have added like, some new guns, new talents, new skill variants, new areas, stealth mechanics, new exotics, just about even one single thing would have been better than "now you can have new ways to look at your Character with zero new customizations options." Ina third person game. Where your Character is literally on screen the entire time you're playing.
They should just make a division 3.
I heard that's in the works.
Many players are currently receiving 3 exotic caches. Do you know why? Thank you
This game really never got a lot of content at all for how old the game is.
We got the new York dlc which was nice, but then all the other new areas are very one and done gimmicky.
And that's it. Nothing else other than a few random clothing lootbox options.
also they haven't capitalized at all on skill apparel
I feel that would be better than 1000 generic gun skins
I mean they tried adding new guns with the GR9 and TKB and both know how well those were
and they cut skills as manhunt rewards and replaced with exotics
then replaced exotics with cosmedics
they have been cutting the amount of ocntent per season for a while for the sake of better quality and less delays
that resulted in 3 seasons per year and dubious quality
why the hell did i get 3 exotic caches
Nobody knows as of yet. I'm speculating it might be because of the XP bugs
At this point, all we can do is open them up and keep or trash the free exotics. I'm not gonna cry over 3 free exotics
free exo comps
Still no official response from Massive about the seasonal character ? Why are they alienating their loyal player base like this
-does the district union mission twice because of manhunt
-completes stage 3 of technician
-need to do the mission again
AHHHH
To bring more players into the game most likely. Or, in hopes of bringing in new players. The game isn't designed for seasonal characters
That reminds me I gotta finish those quests
Yes, I like getting 3 rugged gauntlets in a row 
😹 but they won't tell us why the seasonal character decision
They're probably reworking the decision rn so they are planning changes
Major major doubt. Massive, to us, has been a massive letdown
where are the caches? stash?
Mailbox
ty
I love the game and I'm open to new ideas. Massive was cooking this season, then they simply burnt the house down once seasonal characters were announced. Now the whole player base is on edge 💀
It would've worked better if tied to like Descent in some way or just allowed you to start fresh on your main and just had everything stowed away
I can see what they were trying to do but its just hard to fully implement without pissing somebody off
The issue I'm seeing is division 2 was never built to do seasonal characters. Our mains were our mains. We played for so long on our characters that we left an imprint on them. The pride, the feeling, all your hard work and memories are pretty much being ripped away from us with this change. It offers new content to the newer players, meanwhile resetting the progress of the hardcore players who grinded their ass off for their loot. Newbies and occasional players get the new content for a new experience, meanwhile us hardcore players get reset back to 1 AND we gotta get better gear all over again
something like that will take some time given how volatile the community is atm
Sadly, it will. With how I feel on it, all I need is SOME kinda follow up saying "you can go on your main characters at any time you choose to do so", or maybe just removing the idea? The longer they stay silent, the more rash the community will likely get. Then again, a rushed answer isn't always the best, and we can clearly see that with how ubi forward announcement went
Why can't I log into ubisoft anymore?
Try quitting the game launchers, reopening and try a log in
alright after a few tries that worked
Ubi launcher or steam?
just got a st. elmo's engine from the first of 3 exotic caches, is that good
If steam, weird. Ubi launcher has always been meh
Very good gun, do you have it yet?
It wasn't my steam log in it was ubisoft launcher
nope, first time i get it and its from the exotic caches they gave due to the maintenance
Expected 😹 there's been a period several months straight id need a VPN just to even log in and play
let me tell you launching Watch Dogs Legion from the ubi launcher suckssss
Definitely keep it
Damm
Yup 💀 then poof, one day, it doesn't need a VPN anymore and I'm sat there like 🗿
got it
What's the 3rd attribute on it?
Got Merciless, Liberty and Tardigrade out of my exotic caches
someone at Massive has it out for me fr fr
uh core attributes are ar damage and health damage and the attribute below is +6% damage to armor
Merciless is a meme, liberty rips with hunters fury, and tardigrade is not bad for tank/support
Use that for now. Later on, reroll for damage to targets out of cover
6% DTA is good but 10% DTTOC is free 10% damage since most are out of cover anyways
I have a almost max merciless too
how do i reroll? (i started playing this game fairly recently ._.)
Was also planning on using it to get proficiency
Inaya in base of op will have the reconfigure blueprint, buy it off of her and go into the crafting table. Under weapons, Go to bottom tab and select the diamond logo. Those are where you reconfigure exotic weapons
got it thank you
4 piece hotshot, chainkiller chest, airaldi backpack with vigi, SR-1 determined, and secondary merciless will carry expertise pretty quick
Don't need to use it, having it equipped is more than enough
also she doesn't have it, only has account shared blueprints, account shared materials, holster intel and a blueprint for a mask
I know
I didn't know about the build
Wait a bit, she should have it in stock
Happened when I couldnt buy the reconfig blueprints for Ravenous
yup, just found it, thanks so much
Takes her a second sometimes lol
i can reconfigure it now all im needing is an exotic component which i assume i get from doing stuff around the open world?
rewards from some projects but mostly from breaking exotics
No I 100% agree with this sentiment, there should just be an optional thing tied to our mains as a way to start fresh for fun and not lose anything. I can see Massive's idea of creating an even playing field for all to dive into the sandbox fresh with new ideas but there should be an option to do it as the main as like a possible prestige system where you work towards different patches or something where you can be seasonal on the main and retain items and just build a bank of fresh items too
oh, i can do that
Once you hit level 40, farm countdown
I think it had good intentions, just not the best plan forward
season 2.0 has been announced for a long time we just didnt know what would entail
can't, don't own ps plus 😔
The guy who suggested it probably played Diablo 4 and thought WOW this might be the best idea for the division 2 I need to tell the dev team!
so this has been the plan for a long time, i dont doubt there is a lot more to it
but hey if you dont tell you get stuck with me using other places as refference and boy i'm not happy
mail man: "never heard of division 2 ..is it compareable to diablo?"
ubisoft: "you're hired"
The division 2 was not meant for that idea at all
They totally can scrap it and just swap season 4 and 2 around
got 8% DTTOC - should i keep rerolling until 10% or should i keep it for now
That would be cool
is uplay down?
Keep it and just optimize
would say keep it
Rerolling to get a godroll would probably take hundreds of exotic components, and they are better spent on increasing expertise level
control points are bugged? Claimed control points gets invaded every time I relogin
happens to a lot of people yeah
Known bug on the trello.
For a list of known bugs check the trello. https://trello.com/b/F2RU9ia9/the-division-2-known-issues
Let’s do seasonal resets when every division agent is essentially the same what could go wrong?
They don’t have the variety or replay value to be doing resets lol
The division is a looter shooter and that's it, you replay missions for fun and to get stronger and stronger which is essentially, the whole objective of looter shooters, there's no fun into resetting all of your builds for a single mission 
The devs finna shit the game up
They just don’t have the foundation for it trying to fit a square peg in a round hole
"That's right, it goes in the square hole"
The bird speaks the almighty
Should just have moved on to Div 3 if I'm being honest....
Not like the narrative has been holding up either
Well the "bug" that you cant inspect other ppl builds is one of those that i hope the never fix. At least not for randoms,inspecting if in a group is fine if not gotta use you're bain to figure out a counter not just clicking 2x and answer presents itself.
You called?
Haven’t played in a while and was going to get back into it going to create a new character. Should I level from one to 30 or use boost and skip?
why not use the old character?
Sorry I speak only of the almight lord and saviour Bread of Birds
I feel like this could cause controversity between religions
And discord bird users
Real
Real
i remember seeing another bird person or two around here the other day
Birb peeps
Because none of my characters are 30
If you want to play the endgame straight away, you use boost, if you want to play history and having fun makes
i wonder why there is no matchmaknig for incujrsion atall
I think it wouldn't work for many reasons
anyone else having login issues?
There is matchmaking for incursion
Tell me everyone cant login to crappy launcher
at least this game doesnt fuck me deep
Keep it
I hope you kept it, late reply my bad
i did^^
weapon is shredding through everything and i love it lol
Thank fuck 😭😭 had me worried
I tried the descent 3 times today, all 3 times there was a delta3 error before the nemesis. I'm getting tired of having this after every update. Fck this sh!t..
It's all around the best exotic AR in the game in terms of the overall feel of the gun. It rivals Eagle Bearer but if you ask me, Eagle Bearer has the best talent. St Elmo's is the most accurate
im loving st elmo's so far, what's eagle bearer do?
I don't have an aiming issue and as long as I keep hitting heads, I negate so much damage
Continuously firing the gun grants accuracy bonuses, up to 80%. Getting a kill with a Headshot grants 15 seconds of "Tenacity", which you'll gain 1% damage reduction to body shots and 5% reduction when hitting headshots. If you get 3 kills before Tenacity buff ends, you negate 100% of the damage you took in that 15 seconds
It's extremely powerful on Heartbreaker builds, and in PvP. Heartbreaker grants weapon damage and bonus armor when hitting pulsed enemies. So you can have 1.6m base armor on a build and get double that with bonuses. You'll also have 100% weapon damage from Heartbreaker stacks so you'll be an unstoppable tank with Eagle Bearer tenacity buff. Actually, if you keep head chaining, you'll be invincible
.024% chance in dark zone with non targeted loot, I think .065% chance with targeted loot in dark zone. Or, you can run Dark Hours (normal difficulty) raid and have a 10 % chance to get it when opening the crate at the end, or a 1% chance of getting it to drop from boss loot each first clear of the week
Dark Zone farms are fun but so incredibly rare to get EB or Ravenous from that you're better off doing their respective raids
yeah my main issue is i dont own ps plus so i can't enter DZ or do Countdown or Conflict or any mode that can't be done singleplayer
its a big setback since every guide ive seen says that countdown is the most efficient method for exotics
Where's Roy benitez?
He left to get milk, might be the last we ever see of him
Haven, the front part not where we fast travel
^ bird beat me to it bc I was too busy being a smartass. But yes, what they said
At this point online gaming needs to be free
It's one of the things I hated about consoles. Gotta pay to play online meanwhile PC you just need internet and a copy of the game 
yeah, definitely sucks seeing as for games like div2 the only thing consoles do is friend lists, due to the servers being from ubisoft/massive
I liked console bc of how cost effective is. Once I swapped to PC, I regret staying on console when offered by my relatives at the time I could get a setup
As a kid I didn't need a setup but yk I was happy on Xbox bc it's where the friends were 🤷
exclusive games is the dealbreaker
Even console exclusives kinda suck, the only good console exclusives I saw was Gears of War and Halo
Then playstation with their God of War and Crash Bandicoot for a while
yeah, I'm only thinking of Switch tbh because Nintendo's not budging when it comes to their exclusives
Nintendo's always stuck to their guns. Xbox wasn't stupid, when blizzard was bought out by XB, they made the good choice to stay on all platforms. Hell, it's STUPID not to make it widely available. You lose out on so much money bc the consumer base has been condensed so hard
Playstation seems to be suffering lately too but I think we reached the point where gaming is at its lowest
Infinite growth is unsustainable
Thanks Ubi.....Appreciate 
Bought out by Xbox?? I think you are confusing Microsoft with Xbox. Also let's not forget what happened to Bethesda after Microsoft bought it 😅😅
Anyone tryna do iron horse I’ve never done it
Finally logged in!!! 3 exotic caches in mailbox - just me?
Nope #news-and-announcements :D
Let us VIEW enemy builds in conflict
So is CPs resetting on every log out a new feature or a bug?
On the surface it doesn't seem like a terrible idea, but do the same CP an hour apart and the loot doesn't restock, so you get empty crates
PITA
Same, but I thought it's because I bought 3 exotic caches from Weaver with textiles and got nothing last night
I just loaded into the Div 2, if anyone would like to group up, feel free to ping me, I'm only level 11.
nope, everyone got it
I think with the game in year 6 they're jsut giving stuff away now
so there goes my textiles then xD
why is agonizing bite just broken in decent
Did servers die out?
does nothing and has no description
what's the reason for getting 3 exo caches in the mailbox?
server issues on tuesday
Known bug listed on the Trello...
For patience they said in x
I like the "no inspect" bug atm. Forced ppl to actually think and not just 2clicks and the know how to counter
It makes coordinating groups so much more difficult...
"I'd help you with your build but I just can't see it"
True but overall i like it. But if the could make it so group members can inspect eachother but not randoms it would be perfect
Build inspection turned off in invaded DZ would be a good idea tho...
Just every dz then. And let conflict be inspectable cus its a different setting
so will be maybe fixed in like 6 months
Well I'm gonna guess you didn't look at the trello... So it's planed for 21.1 which might be a couple weeks.
i looked on trello
no eta
im gonna assume at least 2 weeks
How do I put up/showcase weapons in the gun range again?
do we have a short list of which activities are still worth it for xp?
That board is the extoics board. Once you have them they should show up on there.
Uh they aren't showing up
yeah mine dont all show up either
Only have 3 exotic there
It's set as to what shows up there, if you don't have it they wont show. You can also stash them and pull them back onto your character and log out and back in and see if they show up.
Board in the WH will have nem, cham, liberty, EB, lullaby, sweet dreams, ruthless, merciless, chatter, idk something I'm forgetting.
Oo how do I select which ones to showcase
You don't select them. Once you obtain them they show up.
😭bro I've been telling you it's not showing up
Have you stashed them? Logged out and back in then pulled them back onto your character then reloaded your map or logged out and back in again?
Stashed yes but not the sec part
I'd try the second part. I've had it happen to me before and that's what fixed mine.
ill post in #ask-td2-community channel
Anyone down to help me do some DZ stuff? I've gotta open it and can't fight my way to the turn in.
Ackshully, Microsoft owns Xbox, so it's the same thing 🤓
But yk, that's the kinda answer I expect a playstation user to get wrong 🤣
If legendary is already insane imagine master ☠️
Me knowing tons of people who are bored that they run solo legendarys as the only way to feel a challenge.
If one owns the other...then they aren't same things tho😅 Xbox didn't buy anything
Tryna do one myself but I'm so bad at headshots so I can't
Also I buy all new gen stuff... is it a new Xbox, playstation or i put together a new PC when new gen GPU's come out. Not sure why you are trying to bring some wierd platform war Into that ❤️
Most start with DUA and strikers.
Can't even do DUA with a dps tank haha
das crazy. Practice practice practice yo. No one ever uploads a DUA solo vid without having done it a ton before hand.
Wait is there a reward for completing the 5 things for 'echo' manhunt target?
True
I'm pulling your leg, no worries lol
Yus mah cat dude.
?
I answered you yo.
I think seasonal characters is a poor decision for division, it's going to put a wall between new and old players which are already few and far between. The game already makes me replay old content, why the $%&# would I want to wipe my progress and start over doing the exact same stuff I was doing before. They're trying way too hard to milk a dry cow.
Is the 2 exotics in the pass all the exotics that got added? The shotgun and knees?
When does the seasonal character go live
yes.
Next season.
Oh okay thank you
Lame. They dont seem to be doing much of anything as usual then. Guess i got the looks of the season right earlier when i asked about stuff this morning.
Matchmaking broken? or nobody in the world is playing this? cant find players, wtf
how can I start the manhunt? I did the General ANderson one been away for a long while.
should start as soon as you login with a mission to walk into the SHD basement of the whitehouse
hit computer listen to recording, and off you go
side note: Descent NSA tech kiosk has "no items available" and the agonizing bite talent has no more description within descent lol
correction: Agonizing Bite no longer functions at all in Descent despite still being available as a choice for exotic talent
Seems quiet
Tried to matchmake in Asia conflict server and got thrown into eu server
Had to wait for a while too.
so im lvl 14k+ and now i finished getting to lvl 40 on a new character , but then my watch is lvl 4 . . .
do i need to finish the NY story to get my 14k SHD points?
logoff and login
just log out and log in
oh thanks, the game crashed anyway... so lets see, ill log back on to check
I wonder how much shit will hit the fan when that loophole gets plugged 
hahaha
i already used that hole a lot 😉 so its not gonna be a game braking for me
Same, well I've done 3 runs anyways. But still have reserves
It a certain point there isnt a lot to spend it on other than funky/questionable builds 😅
yep 😄 im at that point...
but hi if i have time i do the weekly/daily on them to get more exotic parts
Yeah same. I've got my main few builds on all the alts now
haha same.
Whether I get through 4 sets of projects is another story 🤣
i dont have the time for it most days, but hey i do have the option if needed
If you were gonna take a week off projects this would be the week to do it. 4 Characters completing the first part of the manhunt with 5 directives even with the double XP for the first 15(or is it 20) only got me to level 42
xp for everything is borked
Isnt the double xp for 15 levels account wide..
yes
Eh I do the projects for exo anyways. Seasons are really long at this point
true
I should stop hoarding SHD levels and just buy the rest of expertise level 26 so i can spend exotic components on something
I think I'm at 38 right now just from daily projects and a couple backup calls
on 1 character?
No across 4
ok that makes sense! I was gonna log back in and make sure i wasnt playing on hard/challenging or something this whole time lol
another exploit i cant take advantage of...
Make sure auto decon is on and buy skill mods. 227shd per proficient item instead of 300shd with direct printer filament purchase😉
im out of credits too tho so id still have to buy those
rolling those Habsburg pieces wiped me out
Yeah the credits > skill mods is cheaper on shd than direct printer filament is what I meant
gotcha. i might just roll with just picking up mats, give me a sense of progression for this season until the... ya know
fingers crossed crossroads apparel is sweet tho, i love grinding out apparel events even if i hate the outfits tho
Wish I could actually play a fkin legendary mission without getting bombed every second ffs
You doing Manning? that ones pretty rough
i love zoo!
You love Manning Legendary? A true sadist if I ever saw one

No district union. Don't even last 3 seconds.because all I get is spammed with bombs every second
Who actually thought adding aimbot artillery into a game about staying in cover was a good idea???
Jammer pulse
are you playing solo or group?
if group, give em a taste of their own medicine and run artillery turret for DUA its a lot of fun and once you get inside your gonna kill everything thats not a chungus before your mates can even aim
I think he said solo last time he mentioned
Watching some guy do DUA speed running the whole thing he does the start.in 2 mins.
Aimbot shotgun like always
lol try it. Headhunters Fury is the definition of high risk high reward gameplay
its not easy to play well
It's not HF it's hotshot and the damage STILL isn't enough they insta kill anyway even from 300 metres away 💀
I don't even have time to throw my decoy????? What the f ubisoft?
If the guy is running the hotshot gear with a shotgun, thats definitly sus then 😛
Nemesis and white death (with short scope)
Must be an old video
But still how can they fire.off 2 grenades in half a second haha
if you just jump in within the first 30s and take lethal damage you'll just die
you need 30s to allow OSP to kick in
there's also positioning too, if you don't position well you'll get seen by a thousand enemies and they'll all launch skills at you
the people that don't get grenades or drones coming their way positioned themselves well so those enemies don't see them and thus don't use their skills on them. i guess it just comes down to awareness
Out of everything that breaks this game shock grenades should've NEVER have been a thing
You must have missed the fun with special ammo for black tusk has actually shock rounds and not emp rounds, now THAT was something
chungus even looked at you funny and it was game over, chain stun from a minigun
What just happened described in one sentence lmao
That first bit is easy but when you constantly get bombed by drones it's impossible
before i go, what build are you personally running at the moment for your attempts?
any idea when the xp problem will be fixed?
IMO, since it's not something that provides an advantage to players, it's safe to assume that the earliest would be next Tuesday
it actually is listed as a critical attention issue on the Trello so there's that
thats good that is high priority
Anybody else noticed the 2nd stat for (Like Glue) the new named shotgun showing a recalibrated stat when you maxed out the optimization?
backpack glitch is back, nice
tradition of bringing old bugs back with new updates lol
So you telling me gear level doesn’t matter after 40
@fickle notch Once you hit Lvl 40, all gear is Lvl 40.
are there any new raids coming out?
nope
kk
Not that the community is aware of
well you are the ultimate expert
Lol
how is it going with yours?
I haven't worked on it much because job
Unless you wanna draw up some concepts with me
Lol
not now at least, not really motivated with this game due the seasonal stuff
Guys how will you do a wony run this season? I’m confused some people are running lincoln memorial 10 times while some say doing wony the same way is fine
If I understand correctly would it mean I would just need to get a character to level 40 since keener’s watch can be obtained without the completion of the wony dlc? Please let me know know if im wrong
apparently it can be done much faster if you come back to dc and ideally have a couple friends to help
yeah u wont have to fight keener
Well that clarifies it I appreciate you!
Craft god roll gear and mods now, except for headshot 9.9 and pfe 12
I'll concede PFE 13 cause I'm SHD 15k and I have like 6 of them total ever, but 10HSD don't worry you'll be swimming in them at some point
when is the update to let all players become lv40??
already happened
😳
They are giving you the ability to hit 40 without wony. There is no level 40 boost
question!! new charac can be straight boosted to lv40 now or no??
You can boost to 30. Still have to level to 40. But can do that in DC now
afaik its much faster now as well
Just getting back into the game is that incursion any good
Yes, ouroboros can drop from it.
one of the top dps weapons in the game atm
Less outdated and more underdeveloped id wager
skill issue, also use ceska instead of groupo
HF is still very very strong
use crusader shield too
If you're getting shredded on challenging with a build like that it's a skill thing
Idk I’m not dying
My armour just is gone in like 3 seconds
I run a shield and pulse too
@lucid solar Post an image of your main build, and one of your crit stats over in #td2-build-advice, we can't do much here.
What’s with all the trash players in countdown lately? And they’re not even low levels which is ridiculous. Because I can expect newbies not knowing what the hell they’re doing. But these higher levels don’t know where they’re going. Especially since now we all spawn together but regardless they don’t even do the objectives.
I once got on a 6k+ countdown lobby where they just went straight at the beginning to Containment and just ignored all 5 Hunters
Man, it's kinda stressed that Ubi bugged the Lefty, it lost it's red skin.
Solid: Crimson comes right to clutch
What’s a good way to get the card collectibles
my god, grinding specialization skill point on challenging control point so boring
plus with blueprint
Last 2 countdowns they keep firing off the flare with 2 minutes left… 😖
I did them while farming XP.
Public execution.
I eated the SHD node
Dammit, I think the only activities I haven't completed is Descent (which I don't plan to complete it, ever) and the Incursion.
I don't know what to do in the game anymore.
Wtf, there's a new shotgun in the game called "Executioner" or something like it?
overlord?
I mean a normal gun, looks like the W870, but it's different.
akshuali 🤓 👆 it's spelled "ate"
So u can’t inspect other player’s build anymore, is it bug or on purpose?
bug
What gameplay
Not a downgrade nor upgrade not being able to inspect.
when i said Massively downgrade gameplay not meant to be actual word
Engrish
you missed the joke
you also missed the joke here
why's that
im refer to the game company Massive saying massively
yes, he's also saying his own joke
Ubi support is a joke
I showed them proof that my buddy was sent a invite for pc referral as he has the double xp but they said I sent it on xbox even with proof. Now I cant get the backpack charm.
They gave me JUST the stinger lmg for some reason
Hi all

hi all, how do i get my transaction log for premium credits spending? i purchased the recruitor outfit and its missing.. anyway to check?
See, with pvp, I like that you can no longer inspect one's build. I think it evens out the playing field so that way you cant just inspect peoples nearby builds in dz and bring out the best build automatically. I also would like this for conflict too
So from a pvp stance, I think this build inspect bug makes pvp even more hectic because you gotta find out how the game plays before you build swap. Such a good bug I love it
does make you playing guessing build game
dps are breakpoint, its very meta like every other lootershooter games
tank support useful for your team, galvanize and vanguard
I would like to have some kind of balancing that make all build viable solo
my friend wouldn't not like play division 2 becaus enemies are bullet sponges
dmg number stats displeased him
Instead of just scaling enemy armor to make them 200 years to kill
fr
my friend like play ghost recon, enemies aren't bullet sponges and its a tactical game
ammo management is a bonus for him
so i shown him directive ammo hoarder but it isn't enough for him to try
ill wait when div3 release has immersive mode
Sad though, i really love the division world but enemy bullet sponges just turn me off
I know it an rpg shooter looter game but they could have done something else with the balancing
remove gear score is first step
but having dmg weapon stats instead fixed dmg
turn my friend not want to play, he would call the game "gay"
Lol
yeah he call division 2 is gay because dmg number doesn't appeal for him to play
Dps support is also useful, coyote with opportunistic, ongoing directive and vindictive.
I can still somewhat play tank build on normal and hard world 5
world tier removed
Not heroic though, that shit is a chore with tank build
Guys did you know that if u make a new character and get to max lvl {40}, everything you craft is God rolled!?
You don't need meta builds to compete in heroic lol
Uhhhhh no
You don't need to run DPS either
Many ways to play
Support builds in particular I love
Like what beside dps and skill build?
thank you for your advice
Support
Support is just skill build for me
Healer, foam, fire
Same thing
Do it fast cuz I bet you they gonna fix it ASAP
solo support are impossible?
Skill build generally refers to turret/drone
Also a chore 
or running two active skill turret and drone
You can use fire solo and it's pretty nice
with fast cooldown tier 6 skill core
fire starter yeah
Atleast you got max level skill tier
but enemy are quickly dodge it
Which is somewhat decent
All my characters have max mods crit damage and chance + all skills mods max %
You can trigger it instantly after firing it
how?
Doesn't he need the dlc for eclipse gear set or is it available to all now?
Idk what it is on pc but you double tap LB on xbox
damn boi, I'll check that out in the morning
Oh man's base game
Most elite enemy would just roll away
^

If it's that difficult use a burn sticky
If you tap it it'll instantly fire at whatever you're aiming at
i tried test firestarter on myself it killed me
very quickly
That's how fire works irl 
make me chuckle, but it fool me doing on elite doesn;t kill very fast
Enemy still took more than 2 round
7 round firestarer

with 14 second cooldown replenish
The other option isnt that good too
They shouldn't be
it wasn't that great killing
Half decent burn builds spread and kill
Drone is weak af, hive long cooldown, sticky bomb is meh, reviver hive is just trolling with the cooldown
Oxidizer is like highest ceiling skill in the game
just good against robotic enemies on oxidizer
Insanely potent
60% haste and up to 10% per gear mod slot, also the brand set bonuses too
combine with combine arm, or in-synced, other skill damage active, yes it kill very fast
saw on youtube one oxi guy made deal 700k dmg
on veteran target
But you gotta spam it on spawns
skill does affect with dmg to armor, dmg to out cover?
The oxidizer is affected by both
Also, oxidizer is affected by skill damage, not status effect
i focus on skill haste so much that left dmg out
When you at skill tier 6 the cooldown is already fast (beside reviver hive)
I miss my support station 
its took 20 or 18 second cooldown, feel slow
Try focusing on skill damage and status effect, leave skill haste for the gear mods slots
Ye
Youll gain more than you use if you run EP
A single cloud can spread to entire rooms
you said status effect not affect oxi dmg?
In case you wanna use fire as well
i like oxi doesnt need shoot gun to ignite
You can just double tap the skill button to ignite the firestarter cloud
Oh ye
Is there any mission that connected to the story after Warlord of NY beside the legacy manhunt?
Would be nice to have a list in order to know what started first and after
Just manhunts
There's tank builds that also do DPS
Yeah sadly heartbreaker would be your best bet and likely only bet
yeah "DPS tank" is an oxymoron
It really is 💀
Lol
I'm posting here too, sorry for the copy-paste! I have always wondered (for both games) how many hours the players who have played the games the most currently have. Have you got any information or guess? I'm pretty sure we have got some players who have been playing The Division since March 2016 and The Division 2 since March 2019 (that one is obvious as it is the most recent game, still 5 years old)!!
?
It's basically a DPS build but with a shit ton of armor
Hm
But I'll post what I use in #td2-build-advice
So it like damage for armor instead of base armor?
My base tank build is always at 1.8m armor
And shield can bump it up even more
it's balancing damage and armor without the sets or brands you're using to solely focus on survivability, only parts of it
Hm
like striker rolled blue or heartbreaker are great dps hybrids that still can survive, they're sometimes called "bruisers"
PRO
just like you