td2-general-chat

[coarse glacier]

Aneyone else having major game freezes on PS5 since the patch today?

4/6 countdowns the game has frozen after the second or final objective

and not being able to reconnect just makes me not wanting to play on ps5 atm

[inner harness]

There just aren't enough items to fill everything

[coarse glacier]

literall waste of time

[inner harness]

There are maybe 20 good exotics I carry and ~100 non exotic items

[remote lynx]

But what do you do? like keep godrolls and ditch everything that is useless or smt?

[inner harness]

Keep actual gear I need and decon rest

I don't own a single catharsis or dread or bluescreen on my dh character

[compact river]

Am I the one who got delta 3 today?

[sterile ferry]

i didnt get a single one

[compact river]

hmm

[sterile ferry]

ive been playing for like 2 hours though

[coarse glacier]

Havent gotten a Delta but game has frozen Alot on ps5

[remote lynx]

@inner harness Also, do you get the "Hmm, this piece looks decent, might keep it for future interesting build" type of moments? 🙂

[inner harness]

Oh absolutely

But the stash is for that

[sterile ferry]

thats how you fill all your inventory and stash space

[inner harness]

And when you truly understand build making you won't have many items that make you feel like that

Across all my characters I have no full inventories and only 150/300 stash

Discounting my g rolled mods I have maybe 50/300

[celest light]

And if you aren't good at deciphering what goes well with a build, look at the builds available out there. That'll give you an idea of what to keep

[inner harness]

Depends on the content you play

Dz = hybrid (armour core and crit attributes normally)
Raid = all red
Missions = either status/sniper/hybrid

Of course there's exceptions but that's the norm

[celest light]

I mean, that goes without saying, right? You aren't going to make a DZ build to do missions

[inner harness]

Exactly but once you understand what works in each area you will narrow down what you consider good or interesting

Theres also the items I keep because I know they're rare

[celest light]

I've found that build guides are generally very good for PvE stuff. I'm not interested in PvP so I don't know how those touch upon how well the builds work for both

[inner harness]

I think build guides should be taken with a grain of salt personally

Both standards and strats vary between xbox,pc and ps

I've seen the raid guides given on here and they use years old outdated strats but are still the norm on other platforms

[random quest]

Check out the sheets in the pinned messages over in #td2-build-advice > read the FAQ > go to the build hub > pick a build (would recommend one of the red builds to get you going)

Power Hierarchy in the Division 2 | What gives you power in a build | Farming guide for builds:
#ask-td2-community message

[inner harness]

Granted haven't checked in a while

[inner harness]

?

[random quest]

?

[inner harness]

It just seemed very random and out of the blue

[random quest]

Not at all, you're talking about builds > I give you a source for it. A reputable source.

[inner harness]

We were talking about the credibility of build guides lol

[hybrid ore]

The builds in the spreadsheet are fully tested out for Heroic tier at minimum, mostly made by people on here.
div2 is very math heavy, their maths are solid.

You can always do the calculations yourself, or even just ask @timber hatch next time he's online.

[inner harness]

The thing is I don't think the builds don't work I just don't care for them and would 100/100 go for a build used by a majority of the best players in that part of the game

[north furnace]

new player here, whats the fastest way to level?

[random quest]

like, how new? (what's your level)

[north furnace]

and what are some things i should do to min max for the late game

i played div one

[inner harness]

The best example is kamikazevondooms speedrun videos where he makes meh times seem great with crappy builds

They work but I alone can give you 50 better stats and better builds

[random quest]

There's a reason we point to the spreadsheet rather than YT guides.

[inner harness]

It's not as bad but it's a hyperbolised example

[random quest]

What's your level? Finished base game? WONY?

[north furnace]

lvl 20

[sterile ferry]

the guy who cant make a video shorter than 45 minutes to save his life?

[random quest]

Base game?

[inner harness]

You get me

[north furnace]

yeah

[random quest]

There's really no special thing, play the game, story missions, side missions, projects, control points etc. - finish base game, go to NY and don't thinkg about late game before you get there - it won't do you any good.

[inner harness]

Made a video on dua times on "how to get a sub 7" and I was just looking at it like are you f&#king kidding me

[north furnace]

should i be deconstructing items or selling them?

[inner harness]

It was such a pathetic time

[north furnace]

and is there a point in stashing yellow guns?

[hybrid ore]

iKia says what. :p

[inner harness]

No point they'll be useless in 2 levels

[random quest]

deconstruct whatever you aren't using and just enjoy division 2

[quaint dirge]

Anyone know why ravenous explosion damage is so inconsistent

[fluid meadow]

Max stacks double the damage

You may have marked them 8 or 9 times

[quaint dirge]

It happens in shooting range

I guarantee have max stacks then sometimes the explosion does like 4mil dmg sometimes 7mil dmg and occasionally 8mil

[kind veldt]

crits?

[quaint dirge]

can the explosion crit?

I was using it in pvp and I had max stacks on someone and it only did like 400k other times it hits 1.8mil

[kind veldt]

dunno

[quaint dirge]

and for some reason whenever its a low roll the dmg number is blue but the ones that hit 7mil+ are yellow like an explosion

[gritty pagoda]

so they fixed Unbreakable and the Resources issue, but my R&R is still broken

c'mon guys, what's the issue there?

[quaint dirge]

After doing some research apparently each primer can crit and so the damage varies based on if 1 primer crits vs 10

[azure lintel]

@gritty pagoda AFAIK there was some issue with the one in the chamber round being exploited or something (reloading a weapon with a round in the chamber gives the +1 round). For some reason rock and roll's extra ammo is treated the same way, so the fix affected it and they arent going to change it unfortunately.

[small spear]

yes

oh right you found that out. yeah the damage will vary because each primer can crit separately but then all get added to a single number

[gritty pagoda]

yes, your analysis is correct, but are you saying there's NO plans to correct this?

[timber hatch]

In addition to that, the stacking can get kind of weird. Every shot builds two stacks, and doubles on 10. So stacking typically goes 2,4,6,8,20. When you swap shoulders and set off the talent, one of those shots is used to set off the talent, and the second starts building, so now your stacking 1,3,5,7,9,20. Effectively it takes an extra shot to get to max stacks when your swapping shoulders.

[muted rapids]

is DZ east walker and Harris today

[azure lintel]

@gritty pagoda I'll admit I haven't seem the primary source confirming this, but it's been stated several times here and on reddit, ill try and find it for you though

[gritty pagoda]

please do, because thta would be incredibly disappointing. they'd effectively be killing the best shotgun in the game

[small spear]

haven't heard of a source for that either

[full zinc]

I dont see how +1 in the chamber would relate to any kind of exploit...

[lethal sonnet]

The rikers tactical assessment is not in the resources tab

[full zinc]

I'm just chalking it up to another day another bug...

[full zinc]

Most overrated shotgun in the game*

[red pumice]

Hey

[gritty pagoda]

guess you haven't learned to use it properly

[full zinc]

Regular acs gives 160 stacks. Lefty way more valuable

[sterile scaffold]

I like the idea of shotguns I just wish they were actually implemented good in games

[kind veldt]

shotguns are mostly fine now

[full zinc]

Not like you could "use it properly" right now anyways 😆

[kind veldt]

dont remind of me shotguns ont release

[sterile scaffold]

I get why they always have such horrible accuracy but it's kinda bs when shotguns are very accurate and don't spread out a bunch until like 50 yards from your target

[gritty pagoda]

true, which is the whole point

well, actually you can, but requires an extra reload when swapping to it, which sucks up too much time in a clinch

[kind veldt]

well you wont see that in avarage joe shooter game

[sterile scaffold]

It's actually an issue across basically all games

People assume shotguns are super inaccurate when they actually aren't

Birdshot will 100% spread to all heck but it's supposed to do that, buckshot however stays tight in its grouping for a long ways

[real creek]

Shotguns irl are op and games try to balance them.

[sterile scaffold]

And well slugs are just big bullets basically

[gritty pagoda]

ACS-shotguns in Div2 are pretty accurate, but only up to a certain distance

it's fine though because I treat it as an in-your-face weapon

[full zinc]

It's honestly not even needed. I rarely use a stack set like striker, but when I do, lefty never even gets used to stack 🤔

[sterile scaffold]

Not overly so

Rifle FMJ can go clean through kevlar while buckshot won't

[gritty pagoda]

I have an outstanding Striker build that I love to use for COuntdown. Oreo for main gun, R&R secondary, and both work outstanding(ly) for their intended purpose

[sterile scaffold]

Buckshot can also be stopped by solid objects easier while rifle rounds will keep going

[kind veldt]

i mean we could go on about wound vectors, organ damage, adrenaline, different types of soft and hard armor nad it's not what this game is strying to do

i mean in rising storm 2 shotguns were OP and you could snipe people at 80m with buckshot and 100+ with slugs, but htis isnt that kind of game

[sterile scaffold]

they should just be more accurate is all ¯_(ツ)_/¯

[kind veldt]

i do wish the double barrel would be super accurate tho

to have a better niche

[broken solstice]

range too

[real creek]

Game balance is the issue, is with every game tho.

[broken solstice]

yea true

[sterile scaffold]

I can say 100% tho the Tac .50 should basically just insta murder everything cause .50bmg ain't no joke

Oh you got hit in the arm? Yeah that's gone now

[kind veldt]

i mean do we really want to talk about damage in a game that you pretty much have to replace most people headmass with lead to kill them?

[remote lynx]

Hmmm another 4.83 GB patch? what is going on?

[kind veldt]

most of the time is a mix of picking a weapon that fits the role

only had one patch in the morning for regular maintnance

[sterile scaffold]

Fixes™

[azure lintel]

@gritty pagoda I cannot find a primary source. So maybe if we keep reporting it it might make the trello board.

[gritty pagoda]

I guess I can try again

[kind veldt]

the ammo thing? well they know about it i think

i just dont think people have a reason of WHY it happens

[gritty pagoda]

it's not on the Trello

so if they know bout it they don't care

[random quest]

that's not true - not everything is added to the public Trello board.
They have their internal one (where I would guess there's probably 100 issues at a given time, if not more for a game of this scale) and the external, public one.

[sterile scaffold]

Only 100?

[full zinc]

99 now, weapon talents were fixed today

[sterile scaffold]

I wonder if they'll ever fix Dark Winter, it's talent won't refresh but Killer on other weapons does

[elfin hazel]

the trello is not the be all end all

never has been

never will be

[random quest]

unlike my butt, that's the end all

[elfin hazel]

they 10000000000000000000000000000000000000000% have an internal bug tracker with way more things than the trello will ever have

[remote lynx]

Do the devs actually play the game after every patch deployment?

[elfin hazel]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[sterile scaffold]

I'd imagine at least one person does

[elfin hazel]

theres a lot of them and none of them really are active with the community and I can't say I blame them

[lunar hare]

god knows

[sterile scaffold]

But they have a job so any testing they do is basically worthless

The no lifers playing constantly are the ones that are useful

[sterile scaffold]

Oh no a furry

[remote lynx]

So they have a dummy build they patch it if the game launches they release the update? or what?

Sorry for my bad England

[sterile scaffold]

Dev time < Alpha build < testing < beta build < testing < final polish < publish

[azure lintel]

@sterile scaffold Just ran through a mission with dark winter, no issues

what are you referring to? if you see the icon on your gun while youre ADSing, im watching it proc AND refresh with additional kills

[sterile scaffold]

Last I played it didn't refresh on kill while the talent was active

[broken solstice]

it has to be a crit kill

[sterile scaffold]

Yes I'm aware

Crit kill be damned it didn't refresh and would always expire

[broken solstice]

shtty

[remote lynx]

Was the year 4 when things started to go downhill for this game?

[sterile scaffold]

I already have 60% crit chance from my gear plus the SMG crit chance bonus

[azure lintel]

It has to kill be a crit kill to proc OR refresh

working as intended

[sterile scaffold]

Which is why I know it's working™

AKM with Killer refreshes basically every kill while Dark Winter always ticks down and expires

[broken solstice]

they both last ten seconds i thought

[azure lintel]

WIthout uploading my screen capture, im watching it refreshing as im killing stuff (with critical hits)

[broken solstice]

right

[gritty pagoda]

interesting. so you're saying they make conscious decisions what to put on there and what not to? what's the criteria for what is "hidden" vs. not? who makes that call?

I have an much evidence to refute this as you have to back it (i.e., none at all), but still, your idea that they consciously "edit" what bugs they publicly acknowledge carries a lot of complications with it

[broken solstice]

i would think that whoever is in charge of updating the trello isn't 100% privy to all potential issues that the actual devs have on their plate. they probably just post what they're told and i feel like its unlikely that every issue is worth mentioning on the board.

[remote lynx]

They need to recruit a D2 No-lifer to the dev team, preferably a telented Coder

[kind veldt]

trello is not something they used before

so clearly they had an internal bug list

[broken solstice]

clearly

[random quest]

Subnautica's trello board is a great example of how a board will look for a game in development - TD2 is just a smudge bigger than that.
Their Trello board is an actual development Kanban board, with notes to each issue, updates along the way, etc.

[kind veldt]

and kinda falls apart the moment any patch fixes something that was no on trello, meaning they also have internal notes, trello is more of bullet points of big things generally

[gritty pagoda]

nobody said anything about Trello being the sole source of truth. internal kanban boards are a lot more complicated anyway (I am an L6S BB from about 11 years ago). I am just saying that someone making decisions what to put and not to put is, uh, very interesting

[elfin hazel]

not everything needs to go to it

[sand herald]

To be honest its a cheap ass way of getting bugs "known by devs".. They shut down all forums use a cheap discord and spam Microtransactions its just Ubisoft in general. Using Trello when your a company as big as Ubisoft is insulting

[elfin hazel]

???????

trello is used for a ton of games because its good

it works and it works well

its easy to add to it and easy for people to read

[limpid kindle]

How can i get that patch “rogue hunter” identical to from div1?
What commendation is?

[remote lynx]

Are patch fixes made in a way to trigger conflicts or what? sorry to ask i don't know how internal game development works

Is it a code writer issue?

[broken solstice]

the patches contain various fixes to issues with the game. sometimes with an update we get new gear/weapons. a new game mode every not so often. global events to keep you busy

[balmy cedar]

They’re also very vague

Sometimes when I read the post I think is this something you’re adding or removing cause of the way it’s written

[broken solstice]

yeah i mean, theyre not gonna post stuff like "in NYC building X's south wall has its texture missing"

[balmy cedar]

Like the post about reworking of ensnare status effect had me worried they were gonna kill EP

[remote lynx]

Also i never got any notification from this server about any update or smt

[balmy cedar]

Cause whatever they did I rarely see foam in conflict now

[remote lynx]

ooo Golden Bullet 🙂

[broken solstice]

didnt they make it so you develop some level of immunity in pvp after getting hit with the same status multiple times?

[gritty pagoda]

sorta. there's a diminishing effect

[lunar hare]

I can now enjoy my hotshot build with a god rolled SR-1

[torpid tendon]

What's the thing about sr1? I mean, I heard several guys talking abt it being good. Is it in the meta or something? Is it better than wd?

[lunar hare]

1 million damage with dtoc

its the top of mmrs imo

[full zinc]

m700 variants and sr-1 are better damage than wd now

ill take m700 carbon any day tbf.

[torpid tendon]

Btw, I wish there was a PU scope for wd... I mean, I get the reference, but lemme put a proper scope on the mosin lol. Those rails are just cursed imo 💀

[torpid tendon]

I might have one with chd or something...

[lunar hare]

My gr M700 carbon does 980k-ish damage, but this SR-1 is 1mil

[torpid tendon]

I'm running determined

[lunar hare]

and wd does 955k damage

[lunar hare]

also am I

[azure lintel]

model 700 are day errday

all

[torpid tendon]

Weird.... I'm getting like 4.9m or so with wd

[full zinc]

only problem i see with sr-1 is the lower ammo count, and limited under barrel like m700tac

[lunar hare]

how much was m700tac?

[full zinc]

8+5 with the packed mag

carbon can take that extra stability mod on the underbarrel as well

actually, sr1 takes that but just not linked laser if one was running flatline for some reason

kinda 6 in 1, half dozen in the other though. both hit harder than wd which was the gold standard prior

[broken solstice]

shame to see a good named item go obsolete

although the damage doesnt matter all that much to me. i use a covert SRS half the time and its still more than enough

[full zinc]

the damage numbers mentioned are base numbers on a specific build. not actual after buffs/hh stacks

[broken solstice]

figured

[full zinc]

should be able to top out 28ish million on a proper build with that WD

[torpid tendon]

That ine under your shd lvl? Im not at home rn to check, but its around 1.1m or so... Im running 1 blue core I believe...

[hollow hill]

New update, apparently the weapon talent reroll bug is fix. Does this mean my good guns are finally useable again or are they forever useless?

Haven't had time to log in at all

[full zinc]

log in and find out

[hollow hill]

Bruh I just said

It's why I'm asking 💀 if you'd read

[torpid tendon]

I'm still a bit confused, some of my weapons that I got before the talents bug now has diff talents...

[full zinc]

oh i read, just giving a hard time

[lunar hare]

then open the game via launcher

[hollow hill]

I'm not at my PC rn genius 💁

[full zinc]

supposed to be fixed, but i didnt have any that were messed up so i saw no change regardless

[lunar hare]

then buy one on your nearest pc store

[hollow hill]

sigh

[lunar hare]

ok enough, yes, talents got rerolled back to normal

[hollow hill]

Thank you. Was a yes or no really that hard?

[full zinc]

yes

[lunar hare]

It was, im holding a fkn laughter rn

[lethal sonnet]

Aaaa I cannot get full crit mods

[full zinc]

ill see myself out

[hollow hill]

Ofc it is. Y'all lost your braincells farming countdown I can see 😂

[hollow hill]

RNGesus ain't on your side

[random quest]

To be honest, you answered it in your own message.

New update, apparently the weapon talent reroll bug is fix.
People are defo giving you a hard time though, always give it back in here ^^

[torpid tendon]

Same, Ive got 3 6%chc mods, but I'm running 3 11.8% chd, which is what matters for the smg build

[kind veldt]

that said

did have great luck on raids and got like 4 12% protection from elite mods

[hollow hill]

I say "apparently" because update 20.2 "apparently" fixed 20.1's bugs but made more problems. I've learned the hard way after this talent bug that when a new update hits, I expect 30 sum more bugs after they finally fixed 2 bugs

"if it's slightly broken, break it more" - Ubisoft

[lunar hare]

I'm pretty sure this update messed something else up

[kind veldt]

from my understanding, old weapons rolled back, new weapons that you got during the bugged period got rerolled

[torpid tendon]

Those are for healer builds right? You need one or 2 of those

[kind veldt]

i mean i wont be using them but i know enought to know they are neat

[hollow hill]

Are you fr rn 💀 they fix old guns yay but you're telling me the few new guns I got are now broken?

[kind veldt]

no

think of it, the weapons you got during this last week had the wrong talent, by fixing everything the new weapons got their original, meant to be correct, talent

[torpid tendon]

Yup, I was farming pistols at countdown, every single one now has diff talents

[random quest]

Outside of that, people should get into the habit of recalibrating their talent, not other stats - makes it easier to swap if balance changes comes around

[hollow hill]

I know now they fixed the guns that were okay before the 20.2 update, which is good. So the guns during the bug update you'd get are now rerolled? Been a long day and my brain isn't braining rn

[broken solstice]

this is why i just skipped playing while the game was acting up

[hollow hill]

Or devs could yk, fully test an update and roll back immediately if something is broken

[hollow hill]

Hopefully your guns didn't get screwed up. 60 percent of mine did so I spent all week using placeholders

[full zinc]

new weapons inbetween patches probably have shifted talents

if they werent rolled

[hollow hill]

biggest possible sigh

Well, least they're just new guns I picked up bc why not

[torpid tendon]

Basically the guns you farmed last week were displaying the wrong talent... Now that they fixed it, the weapons you got now have the talents that they were supposed to have when you got em

[full zinc]

its to be expected. all talents were offset during the bug patch, including the stuff that dropped

[broken solstice]

i checked briefly bc i logged in monday night to get my donation projects done for my 4 exo components before the reset. and a few of my weapons were changed. but i didnt try to do anything about it other than wait it out

[hollow hill]

Rip. I found a crazy rolled Aug and a nasty p90 drop. Guess I'll wave those goodbye

[random quest]

No matter what - because I don't want to discuss the bug - this is a good habit.
Got a godrolled MMR? DTTOC? You wanna expertise it? Recalibrate your talent - determined this week, ranger the next.

[torpid tendon]

""""Fortunately"""" I didn't got any good pistol at countdown lol.

[hollow hill]

Lots of people decided to just trash their guns

[full zinc]

pretty short sighted to do that

[sterile scaffold]

I decon basically everything I pick up since I don't need it

[hollow hill]

I'll have a chance to login later tonight and see what damage has been done to my new guns

[full zinc]

but then again, farming hasnt been easier than it is now

[hollow hill]

Well tbf people were very doubtful about a fix, and I can't say I blame them

[full zinc]

and expertise is 60% cheaper than when i added most of my upgrades

[hollow hill]

I wouldn't be surprised if the player count tanked because of the update

[full zinc]

this was actually a really quick fix. i think when the ar's had rifle damage it took a few weeks to correct

[hollow hill]

AR rifle damage? That seems awesome tbh. Rifles do a lot of damage

[broken solstice]

yea. ive learned to just not do anything if theres a problem after an update. bc they learn about it very quickly usually

[full zinc]

considering that it was on the ar, but didnt apply to the ar...

[torpid tendon]

Me just farming a new wd like crazy

[broken solstice]

lol

i even held off on doing the one optimization my dttooc capacitor needs because i didnt know if this talent uproar was gonna require a roll back lol

[hollow hill]

Dang, that sucks... If only it did

[hollow hill]

As soon as they caught wind, tbh, I think a rollback would've been a good idea. Took devs almost a full day to say "hey don't toss out those guns, we will fix them". Was too late, damage was done

[broken solstice]

yeah. the damage was done for people with poor foresight

[hollow hill]

I'll have time in about 2 hours to check my stuff. Can't wait to get my sniper build and my ranger max rolls police m4 back 😭

[kind veldt]

better not make promisses you cant keep and rollbacks could are something to be used as foten

[undone timber]

Come to think of it did they fix the cap/cath bug

[azure lintel]

green activities don't count for this weeks project for some reason

[small spear]

ye

[undone timber]

Ayy

Now to roll a good cap

[broken solstice]

oh yea. i got max AR dmg, max dtoc, and 11% DTA in 4 rolls. good luck to you

[latent bridge]

no delta today 👍

[latent bridge]

what a ashols playing countdown who leeve before final part, just coming take 5 shd and leeve group 👎

do this with your own team, but when you do this with another people you just make their characters die

[limpid kindle]

How can i get that arm patch that is similar to“rogue hunter” from div1?
What commendation that I have to unlock?
I said arm patch, not patch from updates

[hazy carbon]

Does this discord not have chat channels?

[kind veldt]

VC got removed cause shenanigans

[hazy carbon]

Gotcha, i havent been in here in a year or so. Thanks for the info. Happy grinding.

[undone timber]

Wait so the decoy only takes damage if the projector is hit and not the projection?

[frosty wadi]

I mean, that would be how holograms work

[undone timber]

I was just wondering why my uptime was so inconsistent then realized my placement was garbo

[kind veldt]

i only throw it at teh highest peak so it will forever look down upon my enemies

or until it breaks with the 15s duration

[undone timber]

Does it snapshot or can you not abuse Kard custom with it

[kind veldt]

i dont know

[full zinc]

check it in the range. if it does, tier will change when you pull kard out

[hazy spire]

damn got my first crash on countdown after someone opened the loot box

[real creek]

You only get the bonus while the kard is in hand. You can throw your skill out and swap on and off the pistol to see it's health change back and forth.

[wise basalt]

i remember foundry and future pieces were tied to raids. Is that still the case or has it change? U can now get those pieces anywhere

[torpid tendon]

Lmao this reminds me from division 1, everyone used to have a blue lvl 6 pistol or so with talents to amplify the skill damage

I dunno, I think it was destruction and ferocious

[undone timber]

They're not raid exclusive anymore

[opal radish]

It was determined with cooldhead pistol

[opal radish]

They fixed your M700 carbon?

[undone timber]

Yes

[latent bridge]

people, if I win Nemesis playinh charracter level 2, which level exotic will I have? 2 or 30?

[undone timber]

Descent?

[latent bridge]

yep

[undone timber]

It'd probably be lvl 30

[jolly talon]

Morning agents

[latent bridge]

@elfin hazel ☝️ 👍

[elfin hazel]

[jolly talon]

Cool pfp Drib ! 😮

[elfin hazel]

ty

[bronze cosmos]

What’s the best Smg and ar in the game

[dense saffron]

Smg is probably the ouroboros aka the oreo ar would be the st.elmos

[shy sparrow]

when does tinkering become available?

[random quest]

I thought it was always unlocked

[azure lintel]

Yes elmos best ar surely

[copper shoal]

For me The apartment and MP7.

[dense saffron]

👌🏻

[azure lintel]

I see a team mate with elmos I just leave the group

[random quest]

That's a weird way of saying you play solo

[azure lintel]

LMAO

I just can't stand the sight of elmos

Overplayed gun that isn't even that good anymore

[random quest]

I like it. Looks wise I just noticed the other day how homemade it looks.
Other than that the reason it's recommend is easy. 20% CHC & CHD mods, high ROF, high mag capacity, good base damage

[copper shoal]

I don't use meta weapons

Hope we get a single barrel shotgun at some point

[azure lintel]

Why a single barrel when we have a double barrel 🥂 🧠

[undone timber]

So like every shotgun except the double barrels

[jolly talon]

I mean to be fair i am not bashing people who use Elmo because I love using LMG's but i would say each their own preferrence and if a lot of people like to us the same weapon then so be it . Several games have "must have " weapons like warframe , destiny 1 with Gjallahorn ( i feel old now remembering those days )

[copper shoal]

Been using double barrel and backup boomstick for 2 years now on all heroic content and manhunt. Doesn't give me a challenge anymore feels like story mode now

[azure lintel]

Then just use something else

It's not hard to make another "fun" build from a few pieces

[random quest]

Time to become the ninjabike master.

[copper shoal]

Now I usually start making fun builds with ninja backpack

[random quest]

If the game is too easy for you otherwise, make an Evernote for the ninjabike bag and have a few alternative uses in there. Explain the math and make it no longer be the newbie trap

[copper shoal]

But after 5000 hours in the game it starts to get boring

[random quest]

To what? Make a build and create a guide for it that is used and recommended by everyone on this server (and outside of it)?

[copper shoal]

Making guides is not my forte, and I only make builds for double barrel. Nobody would use them anyway.

And if I say that ninja is good in comments, the mods here in the discord usually delete my comment

[random quest]

That's the reason it's boring then. Division might be a marathon, but unless you enjoy running the same route, with the same equipment, same pace - you're gonna get bored.
Either you enjoy it or set new goals

Whether it's an actual marathon or td2

[copper shoal]

I've wanted legendary openworld since WONY came out

[random quest]

While I don't blame you, wouldn't mind it either, White Tusk/Legendary AI behaviour isn't coded for Open-World, they're area limited.
However if you want to make your marathon more interesting/less boring you cannot just hope the surface of the road changes

[copper shoal]

But now after the latest project resolve update, they made the game even easier with all the buffs they made on weapons/gears. I didn't want them, now I'm forced to have them.

[opal radish]

Same the only thing that needed was to cheap out optimization and stuff that's about it no need for buff Nerf

[azure lintel]

That would be nice

I think thats prob why I like summit so much, can do legendary with as many directives

The one reason I think they haven't yet would be XP/lvls balancing or some sorts

They most likely don't want us to get what 2-3 levels per activity thats for sure lol, but also if they nerf heroic to balance out legendary a lot of people will cry about it too

[shy musk]

ingame patch notes update when

[copper shoal]

And since we already enemy upscaling when we play in groups of 2-4 players. So why not have the option to be able to set the game for 4 player scaling in difficulty options

[shy musk]

they havent been touched since TU12

[copper shoal]

Yes i like summit legendary.

[opal radish]

I only hate one room in that

With the emp in middle and no cover and it can one shot you

[cyan narwhal]

u forgot about computer that disable emp and its server room with near spawns

[opal radish]

The server room stand alone is fine

[azure lintel]

My worst is the ones with 300 f objectives

O do these 9 computers that takes 30s-1m to do each

Like just let me kill things and move on rofl

[jolly talon]

i forgot how annoying the boss fight in the tombs is

[shy musk]

god bless countdown vendor for finally selling rock and roll 🙏

[azure lintel]

Until you realize the talent is still bugged

[shy musk]

yeah i just realized it 😭😭😭

[cyan narwhal]

rock and troll

[shy musk]

atleast i dont need to grind it next time

a win in my books :3

[fluid meadow]

Acs with fast hands is honestly better

[torpid tendon]

They turned rock and roll into rock ballad!

Gm everyone

[wet mesa]

where are the invaded misisons I cant see any on the map that say invaded & it is one of the day 2 challenges for golden bullet ?

anyone ?

[azure lintel]

The symbol for the mission becomes red unlike the grey/blue that normally is

[wet mesa]

if its the normal mission symbol all mine are grey

[azure lintel]

Did you talk to the coordinator at the White House after you beat tidal basin?

[wet mesa]

Fudge knows I will go check

[azure lintel]

His name is manny ortega

[wet mesa]

where is manny in the white house ?

[azure lintel]

Upstairs by comms

[wet mesa]

ive gone upstairs to what looks like coms & cant see no Manny only a dark zone officers & some random npcs wondering around

any other ideas ?

[azure lintel]

Do you have any mission open saying "Return to the Division coordinator"

[wet mesa]

nope done the main game long time ago

[azure lintel]

And you def beat tidal basin right

[wet mesa]

I am going to assume not ? how do I know if I have done it allready ?

[azure lintel]

One second imma just copy paste directly from ubi site

[azure lintel]

Upon logging into D.C., you will be met with a brief radio call informing you of developments nearby that require your attention. Completing this new side mission unlocks the Tidal Basin Stronghold.

Remember that this content is available once you have progressed to World Tier 4 and achieved at least 425 gear score.

After completing Tidal Basin, Coordinator Manny Ortega at the Base of Operations will have intel on surrounding Black Tusk operations in D.C. This unlocks Weekly Invaded Missions, available on any difficulty! These missions will reset on a weekly cadence and apply to the previous story missions.

[wet mesa]

ohh well guess its tidal basin for me then

im pretty sure I have done it before so I dont really know I just hope im not doing again & wasting my time

[undone timber]

You may have to toggle mission mode for them

[azure lintel]

But doesn't it auto turn invaded every week?

[undone timber]

Ye just tryna cover all bases

[azure lintel]

Yep

[stoic wasp]

Ist hier jemand der deutsch spricht und mir helfen könnte ?

[wet mesa]

and where do i toggle mission mode I had one person try to tell me where it is but couldn't find it like a dumb ass that I am

[random quest]

Hover over the mission and hold g

[wet mesa]

all i see is Story,Normal,Hard,Challenging,Heroic no mention of invaded

[random quest]

Pause for a second.

Go to Tidal Basin on your map, look at the prompts at the bottom. There should be one of the buttons saying mission mode
Otherwise it's in the difficulty screen, cannot remember exactly.

[wet mesa]

you mean mission settings ? (not mode)

[random quest]

No matter what, it will say "Toggle Mission Mode" and show what button to press

I'm not in-game right now, sorry.
Open the map, select mission, hold button for "mission settings," then hold that same button for "toggle mission mode."

[azure lintel]

Does resetting control point also turn everything back to invaded?

[azure lintel]

If you haven't done tidal yet it won't be invaded

[random quest]

Sadly, no. I usually leave TB invaded till end of the week, so I have more black tusk in the open world - very useful for farming West Potomac Park activities

[wet mesa]

but if I have the difficulties available then I have havent i ?

[random quest]

He has difficulties (aka he's not on world tiers, and has completed wony is my guess)

[azure lintel]

Do you remember when was the last time you did anything invaded like?

Yesterday ish since reset

I'm so confused lol

[wet mesa]

your confused :p

I gonna give up anyway wait to see what day 3 brings that wont result in a headache

[azure lintel]

Because like that's all it really needs I think

Tidal basin beat and WT5

Oh wait

Check #ask-td2-community one sec

[wet mesa]

I don't even know what WT5 is people use these phrases all the time & expect people to know but I am clueless

[azure lintel]

World tier 5

Top left on the game

[wet mesa]

top left is minimap

[kind veldt]

World tier is progression for the invaded campaign

[wet mesa]

but where do i view it ? it isnt top left as was said as that is the minimap

[kind veldt]

1-30 liberation of DC
World tier 1-5 invasion of black tusk
30-40 NY campaign
SHD infinite levels seasons

Did you unlock specializations?

[wet mesa]

yes

[kind veldt]

I also just literally woke up so i have no clue where conversation was

Does the map have red missions against blacktusk?

[dark sphinx]

Does the black moon howl?

[wet mesa]

dunno ready think im ready to throw in the towel & quit game i feel incredibly thick & wasted so much time this morning trying to figure out basic ***t more demotivating then anything else

[kind veldt]

Open the map

Is the mission instead of being blue pentagons are now red pentagons?

[wet mesa]

nope as said twice allready mine are greyed out and not red

[full zinc]

then they are completed

[kind veldt]

I just woke up, i disnt see what you posted previously so asking from scratch

Your map should have been looking similar to this
https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQzfOq8W1daCdidHI_ZCaSIc_e-KEcq5sNezQ&usqp=CAU

[full zinc]

so, if im reading right you just need to do an invaded mission for global event challenges?

[kind veldt]

Doesnt that only apply to level 40? Or are global for lv 30 also

[full zinc]

scroll up and read his first post,, its not that far since overnight

@wet mesa
invaded this week are: camp white oak, jefferson trade center , american history museum, stronghold district union arena, always invaded stronghold tidal basin.

to toggle mission from replay back to invaded (or manhunt if ever needed) goto mission settings , within youll see an option to toggle mission mode if its able to. hold g to toggle mission mode, it will cycle through normal, invaded, manhunt.

missions without the option are not invaded and dont have a manhunt associated

[inner harness]

Peak referance

[azure lintel]

So there's been a screw up in the update apparently reading online. One of my weapons had a rerolled talent. Do I have to specifically send in a request to have it fixed or is it going to be fixed automatically?

[real creek]

So a week ago they messed something up, then yesterday they reverted that mess up but if you had re rolled a talent since it was messed up then it would mess up your re rolled talent.

So yeah just re roll the re rolled talent and there hopefully wont me any more re rolling of messed up re rolled talents?

[azure lintel]

No I didn't reroll it back.

[kind veldt]

If you got a gun during the bugged period it also got rerolled

[azure lintel]

I dont even have the option to reroll it. The day before yesterday it had the right talent. It was a crafted gun. A replica. Now it's not even a replica, and it had the sadist talent instead of determined. And I know it was changed cause it was saved in a build. And loaded when I loaded the build. And yes it was crafted in the last 3 days

[kind veldt]

Old guns got bugged and then came back to normal

New guns got rerolled

Everything today and onwards should be normal

[azure lintel]

Ok so it's still a replica but still has the sadist talent.

[cyan narwhal]

just craft another one ig.

[azure lintel]

I put a lot of materials in this one to optimize it.

The talent wasn't even rolled on it. It was crafted with determined.

Triple god rolled.

[cyan narwhal]

best u can do is put target loot in countdown or summit to farm the similar weapon.

[azure lintel]

So there's no place I can put in a report to have support fix it?

[real creek]

What you have there is like nothing tho.

[cyan narwhal]

i dont think it will help u out. better hunt for another one

[broken solstice]

Just be prepared for the distinct possibility that you are SOL

[real creek]

You'd probably be better off to farm a new one vs put the effort in to have them say nothing or that they can't help you.

[undone timber]

Farm another

[hybrid ore]

Depending on the gun, it's probably quite easy to get a new copy with the right attribute/talent.

[azure lintel]

I'm sure they can. But I'm also sure there's much higher pressing matters to tend to than fix an issue.

[undone timber]

I don't think support is gonna help you and it'll take longer to get a response than to just farm another

[undone timber]

There are more pressing matters than fixing your issue

You likely haven't expertised it yet so not all hope is lost

[azure lintel]

Ok so it's safe to say that if I go craft another at this point I won't have to worry about it messing up again?

[real creek]

Like making the lovebirds gate close after you start combat.

[cyan narwhal]

if u do it through tickets it will take days for them to reach u out. instead if u farm for it again u will get same amount of material in just few days or hours depend on you,

[undone timber]

PREACH

[hybrid ore]

Okay no need to repeat the same sentiment over and over again folks, I think they get it by now.

[azure lintel]

I haven't experienced lovebirds yes unfortunately. I really want that ouroboros tho.

[undone timber]

Id carry the shit out of an incursion for you if I was on pc

[azure lintel]

lol

[cyan narwhal]

just matchmake and cross your fingers.

[azure lintel]

I might one day. I have little faith in matchmaking when there's raid mechanics in this game.

[undone timber]

Fortunately the incursion isn't very complicated

Just a question of builds and basic mechanical knowledge

[hybrid ore]

and by "builds" they mean "make the meta strikers one".

[azure lintel]

Well neither is dark hours. But people screw that up all the time.

[kind veldt]

Way less mechanics

[cyan narwhal]

inexperience and lack of cooperation in matchmakes yeah

[azure lintel]

I'm using strikers with st elmos, coyotes, and ceska oblierate chest

[cyan narwhal]

use striker chestpiece and fox prayer with cayote

[azure lintel]

I'll try that

[undone timber]

Incursion you gotta co ordinate half the amount of people

[azure lintel]

Youtube builds aren't that reliable. Is there a good meta build site?

[undone timber]

Spreadsheet in build advice pins

[azure lintel]

Thanks

[undone timber]

You wanna have a variant with bloody knuckles and the striker chest for wright/lovebirds though

[azure lintel]

bloody knuckles build is in the spread sheet too?

[hybrid ore]

To be specific, the Strikers chest variation on the build is only really for when you're fighting enemies with stupidly high health pools, like the Incursion.

[opal radish]

Think of bloody knuckles as contractor replacement according to situation

If you can get melee or grenade go ahead

[azure lintel]

Goodness I haven't used a contractors build in ages.

So lovebirds mechanic is pretty much as simple as killing the drone when it switched between the bosses then taking them down once the drone is dead correct?

[undone timber]

Bloody knuckles especially good on lovebirds and wright cuz you can nade them pretty easily and also proc sledgehammer with a lefty

[real creek]

FYI the different options of ceska/foxes/contractors are like 1% difference in damage.

[opal radish]

But not bloody knuckles they are busted when used

[undone timber]

Damage one drone switches, you kill it while it switches, then stand at the platform, burn one, burn the other, clear adds, end of

[opal radish]

The kick crap out of contractor and foxes combined

[azure lintel]

Thought so

[undone timber]

Yeah seeing red goes hard if you can proc

[azure lintel]

Much easier than lucy fight then

[real creek]

Bloody knuckles is ez to proc, just nade wright on water and nade lovebirds when they come up.

[undone timber]

Ye

[azure lintel]

Will they actually ever reset the leader boards so it removed all the cheaters times?

[real creek]

HA I wish

It's not gonna happen.

[azure lintel]

Ugh. I'd like to see what my 5:13 for lincoln is actually rated at.

But there's so many 1 minute marks from people cheating it.

[real creek]

What diff?

[azure lintel]

Hard

[real creek]

I think it's like almost 3 flat.

[azure lintel]

I don't see how. I'm almost basically straight running through the whole thing. But people used that teleport to the white house, then back to the mission to skip sections.

[real creek]

I mean I do it in like 4:30 and it's scuff af

[azure lintel]

Solo?

[undone timber]

You using a vile?

[azure lintel]

Nah. St elmos.

I've been practicing the vile status build tho. Got 8:43 on a district union with my daughter on challenging.

[real creek]

Yeah.

[azure lintel]

Using vile status?

[real creek]

Fire EP.

[azure lintel]

EP?

[undone timber]

Eclipse protocol

[real creek]

I have friends who do it in under 4 with reg HH.

[azure lintel]

HH? Sorry I'm not up on all the abbreviations lol.

[undone timber]

Headhunter

[azure lintel]

So HH determined?

[real creek]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ynqevz6cMPs

[azure lintel]

Wow I'll have to watch that.

[undone timber]

Nah no determined if you're using regulus

[real creek]

Whiteout is a cool guy too. If you are really interested in speed running I can DM you a link to a discord.

[undone timber]

It has a crazy high skill ceiling

[azure lintel]

Interesting. I'll have to look up a build for regulus.

Here's my CP build
https://mxswat.github.io/mx-division-builds/#/MwNgtAjATG4AyWJOEwPWzHsC5RgE5IYEIkAOTAgOgBYxzqiIJrLss0dakPS5enPkJzQh44ZLzsJsyV2AB2OSqkQCqBLUpkYZemSRkArBJzyL51WbhWLXe+iA

[undone timber]

Big two are headhunters fury and dodge city high end

[azure lintel]

It's not complete but the basics

[undone timber]

Or if you're based enough you can use dodge and hunters fury

[azure lintel]

Is the regulus build in the pins too?

Wait regulus is the one with the heads that blow up so you get them at spawns

I think I tried that build but I suck too much at hitting the head. That's why I use determined lol

[undone timber]

Yep

[azure lintel]

Ok cool. Still cant hit a head shot to save my life tho.

[undone timber]

Yep

[undone timber]

On pc it's Hella smooth you can learn the ways

[azure lintel]

I have 1900 SHD points. If I haven't learned by now, I am not sure I will lol. Unless there's a trick I don't know. But even using mantis I find it hard to hit a headshot cause they always move every time I pull the trigger.

[undone timber]

Never too late fam

[hybrid ore]

Little tip I learned a few years back for how to hit consistent headshots in games: aim for the upper torso and let the kick hit the head, then as your aim improves make the gap tighter.

And remember: div2 guns are hitscan, no real travel time. (except for a few of the spec guns)

[undone timber]

I've still been trying to get a real feel for HHF by just throwing it on for league speedruns to practice those headshots

[azure lintel]

Yeah but even with determined, half the time I can't even hit the body cause of how they move.

[kind veldt]

i remember when that was a bad idea in siege because the pellets were mostly concentraded on being on the edge of the reticle so aiming upper chest would mena going over shoulders and head

[real creek]

More than likely your sensitivity is to blame. If you left it default and have 1200+ DPI you just wont have fine movement to do precise headshots.

[hybrid ore]

Eh, even with whatever sensitivity you can adapt over time.
I never change mine in games, just takes practice and a willingness to learn.

[azure lintel]

1200+ DPI? Is that a setting in the game? The monitor is a 1080p with 244 MHz refresh

Oh the mouse setting. Yeah not sure what it's at.

It's on one of the slower speeds tho.

[real creek]

I'm not gonna get into the "you can muscle memory moving .01 MM with practice" here again. Just look up stuff about it and it might help you with your aim a ton.

[azure lintel]

But I find quite often, my mouse will literally look like it's on the head, and I still miss. Especially with the dang mantis. That's the most innacurate gun in the game to me.

[undone timber]

It sounds dumb but maybe try not to move about too much while shooting it'll bloom your reticle

[azure lintel]

I'm usually the one in the back, waiting for one guy to pop his head up.

[kind veldt]

mantis is pretty easy due the headtracker (well when it's not bugged)

[azure lintel]

It is but the actual spot you can hit to get the headshot is quite smaller than that big orange circle.

[undone timber]

Just makes it easier to track is all

[azure lintel]

Yeah

Personally I'd rather the circles be smaller.

And I have a 1440p monitor in the mail. I'm hoping that will make it nicer to play.

I'm not seeing a link in the pins in #td2-build-advice for a spreadsheet. I see one that goes to a reddit post with some builds on it. Is that the right one?

[real creek]

#td2-build-advice message

[hybrid ore]

the very first link (in blue) that you can see is called "link to spreadsheet 2", for anyone else missing it.

[azure lintel]

Oh evernote?

[hybrid ore]

yeah the google docs link.

maybe just save that tab, you're going to use it a lot.

think of it as Wikipedia for div2, only it doesn't ask for donations and it's actually all correct.

[azure lintel]

I don't see builds on the google doc. I see just all the items in the game. Weapons and armor on there.

[hybrid ore]

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1nrPBmOrtpkEW1j5fbcRT7L-AXgsGOqMqxXoVtopsiGM/edit?usp=sharing This one.

[azure lintel]

Oh there's a hub builds tab

Thanks

Interesting. The EP build uses golan gloves instead of wyvern backpack and creeping death

[random quest]

You said reroll so many times I feel like I've been rerolled now

[real creek]

That's how we roll bb

[azure lintel]

Oh I see now. EP does the same thing as creeping death

Well no.

[undone timber]

Ye ep backpack is extremely valuable for fire ep

For cc ep the courier is similarly valuable

[azure lintel]

EP does it on death. Creeping death does it on apply.

[small spear]

EP backpack amps your damage towards anyone with a status

[azure lintel]

Ah

[real creek]

30% baby

[small spear]

so you need it for burn builds

for pure control builds you don't need that so you can run creeping death or some others

[real creek]

Yeah and if you are looking to get into fire EP you wanna make sure you know the ins and outs for the chem launcher and fire sticky.

[random quest]

WE ROLL LIKE THIS (queue fast and furious sequence)

[small spear]

getting good at sticky bomb will do you wonders

[real creek]

Full sprint sticky is by far the best thing ever for that build.

[azure lintel]

Yeah but the recharge on sticky sucks

[real creek]

WAY higher damage and it's used to clear the room then you'd fire chem known door spawns.

[azure lintel]

Chem and shoot the cloud?

Or wait it's EE or QQ to ignite it I think right?

[small spear]

no, you can self detonate it lol

yeah

[fluid meadow]

How much is the intimidate amp exactly?

[small spear]

and sticky is hitscan, you can be right behind a wall and it will still hit whatever you center your screen on

[azure lintel]

nice

[small spear]

1.04^9

1.42331

[real creek]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OGZ4B5bzCkQ

A good example of speeds with full fire build.

[fluid meadow]

What about 20% amp from closer and 15% amp from flatline?

[small spear]

1.2 × 1.15

1.38

[fluid meadow]

Yeah been testing if intimidate/ad rush shotgun would be better than spotter/flatline or not.

[azure lintel]

I find sometimes the spawns take too long to come out for the EP to actually work well.

[small spear]

it's just down to range

[fluid meadow]

Add onto that the intimidate you can put something like optimist

Only problem with intimidate is if your bonus armor is gone you're pretty much running a dead chest talent

[azure lintel]

Jesus this guy is like non stop running

[kind veldt]

if you can consistently keep at good range intimidate works very well

[azure lintel]

How is this guy not getting hurt by his own fire? It's killing me by just touching it.

[undone timber]

keener only lost because he didn't have family

[real creek]

Talking about that vid I linked?

[azure lintel]

Yeah. The lincoln speed run. He uses the thing to stagger him off the computer.

It just kills me

[real creek]

He used an EMP sticky for animation canceling.

[azure lintel]

Well I'm learning the mission. Doing ok except for the heavys

[hybrid ore]

True Sons heavies are easiest killed by shooting their lower backs and blowing up the boom pack there.
After that they're made of paper.

It's the old "crossbow on a BT heavy" method.

[real creek]

I guess I should note that in speed running for this you can get heavy spawns outside of the bosses but most people going for a really fast time would consider seeing one outside of the bosses a dead run.

[azure lintel]

The problem is getting behind them to blow the darn thing

[real creek]

Melee bait as you run past then shoot the weakpoint.

[azure lintel]

Half a level till 100 season

[small spear]

that's an emp sticky, not a burn sticky if you're wondering. it's unlocked from jupiter manhunt

[azure lintel]

Ok so he doesn't use the burn sticky at all then

[small spear]

yep

emp sticky is just a great general use skill

because it lets you stagger someone every 30s

[azure lintel]

It didnt' stagger me

[real creek]

Yeah he opted to use emp sticky to animation cancel twice to save that time.

There are a bunch of different ways to do this speed run tho and emp sticky probably saved him 5 or so seconds. You could probably match the time via other skills/strats tho.

[azure lintel]

A damn heavy come down with the heavy boss at the end of the mission...

[real creek]

lol see what I mean, just messes up your run

[azure lintel]

Still not even getting sub 6 minutes lol

[real creek]

I can casually pop off sub 5s with fire EP.

I haven't tried to go super fast tho.

[azure lintel]

Well not like it really matters. All the cheaters are at the top of the leaderboard list anyway

[real creek]

Well there is a popular speed running discord and speedrun.com as well.

[azure lintel]

Ah

Well I can get faster with a dps build than I can this EP build. I keep forgetting to switch to my weapon

[small spear]

regulus headhunter can be even faster but you need to nail headshots

[azure lintel]

That's the hard part lol

[kind veldt]

Since we are on topic of regulus

Whats the best way to queezee maximum damage for pistols

[real creek]

Needs more context tbh

[sand herald]

Ok hyena special ammo is toxic af

really god damn annoying

[neon wyvern]

get drugged

better luck next time

[sand herald]

Nah i just switched it off not worth it 😛

[real creek]

Just don't get shot.

[sand herald]

Am running big shield and pistol for the golden bullet so thats impossible 😛

[neon wyvern]

is this another liberty runner

⠀

[sand herald]

No way 😄 am running kard45 with insync lol xD

[neon wyvern]

wtf why

[sand herald]

Because i want too?

[neon wyvern]

weird choice for a pistol build

[sand herald]

Well isn't division about just shoving shit together and seeing if it works?

[small spear]

i mean if it's not fun then you'd find out

you are complaining so we're seeing if there's something wrong

[neon wyvern]

gonna be hard to find out on golden bullet

[sand herald]

Not really xD "4 part hunters fury intimidate + Matador hitting some good numbers

[small spear]

i mean that's clearly not the bad part

[kind veldt]

Sorry had to chekc the oven

[sand herald]

Well its "ok" to test shit out to see how it works right? 😛

[real creek]

All gud, hope whatever you makin is yummy.

[kind veldt]

Squeeze more raw pistol damage outside of one shot tricks like dodge city holster and busy little bee

Kida want to use regulalus as maingun

[real creek]

Well either the HE or HHF are fully optimal, you really can't get much more than they do.

[kind veldt]

Cant think much outside of punch drunk + claws out

[real creek]

Claws isn't worth it tho, DCH provides more utility.

[small spear]

dodge gives you more pistol damage than claws out the instant you swap out and back in

[real creek]

Yeah I bet 2 seconds of DCH stacks puts you ahead of it.

[neon wyvern]

hhf but with dch and hf bag

[small spear]

0.3s and you get 10% pistol damage already

[undone timber]

was the bag stack duration or the disorient range

[small spear]

bag is range

i used hhf with dch and hf bag in lincoln

got 4:47 on heroic just casually hitting heads

the bag makes the run very consistent

[real creek]

You getting reg today or already have it? Setting up builds now?

[kind veldt]

Got it yesterday

[real creek]

Noice. Yeah expertise on it will help but the HE version is dialed and I personally wouldn't mess with it too much, to me that version is for 2-3 shot fights. The HHF set has things that you can change that will trade damage for utility or preference, pretty much set it how you like.

Solo can ob take more tade off vs if you run with a full group. I personally run with 4 man most of the time so I don't mess with dialing it towards solo but idk your typical player count.

[real creek]

So that it for IH raids or you think you'll try to do one every once in a while?

[kind veldt]

might do once it a while, didnt get ravenous but i'm no rush for it

[uncut salmon]

lore reason as to why a funny warhound is hanging out in a padlocked room the invaded bank headquarters? 🤔 🤔 🤔 🤔

[fluid meadow]

It had a malfunction

It MIGHT have accidentally killed a couple black tusks

[small spear]

lore reason as to why a warhound is typing on a laptop in coney island?

[azure lintel]

Now I have to make a regulus build cause there's a thing in golden bullet that means kills with sidearm

[hybrid ore]

They're trying to use up their WoW time before it runs out.

[small spear]

you don't need to do that challenge at all, it just gives you stars which you can just get by leveling up

[hybrid ore]

Although if you do still wanna do it passively, throw on a sawn-off shotgun in that slot instead and just take out the occasional rusher.

Assuming that still counts.

[azure lintel]

I like to complete the stars and challenges cause like what else is there to really do in the game outside of that once it's all defeated.

[random quest]

😭

[random quest]

relateable

[neon wyvern]

lore reason on why there's a warhound on top of one of the tall buildings in invaded national zoo?

[undone timber]

lore reason as to why I've seen them go bipedal?

[neon wyvern]

descent comms be like

[random quest]

mfw there's actual lore reason for that

[azure lintel]

Ok so if you use determined, and you get the buff, it says the next shot is guaranteed a headshot. Does that mean that only if it's from that gun?

[small spear]

yes

[kind veldt]

it's a gun talent so it only applies to that gun

[azure lintel]

Dang. Imagine having that and swapping to regulus on a heavy

[random quest]

It wouldn't kill the heavy anyways - just pop his headarmor like if you shot the heavy with an MMR with determined.

[small spear]

this is why i tell people to not use determined if they want to get good with reg

[azure lintel]

Yeah I went through lincoln and used only reg. Got 34/100 for the side arm kills with golden bullet

[kind veldt]

jokes on them i already dont use determined cause i like hitting heads

[lilac heath]

anyone got any good sniper builds if ya do dm me a photo it would help alot :))

looking to get into the sniper gameplay of the game 🙂

[random quest]

sniper builds

[sterile scaffold]

What the dog doin

[random quest]

woof

[sterile scaffold]

Also I swear the grenade hounds have bugged damage against shields

They one shot my shield while barely doing any damage to my armour on direct hit

[fluid meadow]

Explosions in general deal a hell of a lot of shield damage

[azure lintel]

28 sidearm kills left

[fluid meadow]

True sons grenade pouch for example

[sterile scaffold]

I love accidentally popping a launcher bag when I'm close and it instantly killing me

[azure lintel]

There got all 100 sidearm kills while using golden bullet.

Now to find a bleed build

[kind veldt]

OD and ridgeway chest

[azure lintel]

OD?

Oh ongoing directive

[kind veldt]

ongoing directive gear set

[small spear]

explosion damage deals 10x damage to your shield compared to you

[azure lintel]

So not this then

https://www.evernote.com/shard/s588/client/snv?isnewsnv=true&noteGuid=ab467bd9-bf13-4346-2df4-3f78505343e1&noteKey=acd6f7b3c392f50e82763fe08baf147c&sn=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.evernote.com%2Fshard%2Fs588%2Fsh%2Fab467bd9-bf13-4346-2df4-3f78505343e1%2Facd6f7b3c392f50e82763fe08baf147c&title=Ongoing%2BDirective%2B%2B%2528Y5%2BS2%2529

[small spear]

if you're not rocking a st6 bulwark shield most likely it's going to be one-shot

[kind veldt]

the two of them together are pretty much self suficient hollow point ammo generators

[azure lintel]

Well wouldn't an EP with ridgeways work too?

[fluid meadow]

Not really

They both serve different purposes

[kind veldt]

you owuld need it to reroll it to red

[azure lintel]

I have to bleed 3 hostiles at the same time

[kind veldt]

pickup an LMG and slap hollow point ammo

shoot everyone in hte room once and done

[fluid meadow]

Stinger and look for groups of enemies

[kind veldt]

if you want the EP route, fire skill + stinger

[jolly talon]

I heard LMG 👀

[kind veldt]

OD just gives you a full mag worth of buffed ammo that deals extra damage and bleed damage, so works well for LMGs to get more mileage

for handyness sake it's better with LMGs to keep it going since you need to kill tagged enemies

even if you somehow miss or cant, you probably still have extra bullets to try again somehow

since OD was tricky to use solo

[azure lintel]

Stinger EP is working great. Up to 13/20

[sterile lily]

New to the game and this community.
Do we have an updated list of exotics ?

[kind veldt]

i think whatever we have pinned on #td2-build-advice

[sterile lily]

Thanks

[kind veldt]

pretty much everything but a couple of weapons are truly limited

rest is just farming or doing projects

[real creek]

There is a tab checklist just for exotics now!

[gaunt kettle]

what is the max armor in conflict 🤔🤔🤔

[real creek]

idk probably around 2 mil or so I'd guess.

[gaunt kettle]

[real creek]

Keep in mind this is me guessing, I don't actually know that number.

[gaunt kettle]

Oh okay

[wise basalt]

why is there an increase in rushers, especially hyenas? everytime a reinforcement wave, there r 3-4 rushers in each wave. Wasn't like that b4, maybe 1-2 each wave.

[kind veldt]

mission spawns are semi random in most missions, anything in particular? open world is purely random

[full zinc]

Ratio of hyena rushers bumped up to balance out all the determined headhunter users

[real creek]

lol

[sand herald]

Them helmet mobs are annoying

And in all honest Determined talant is kinda boring Regulus is where its at that boom boom when headshotting 😄

[small spear]

so true

[sturdy shore]

Question, is flatline talent on weapon?

only*

[broken solstice]

yeah its a weapon talent

[hidden prawn]

so im an idiot and i didnt spend my stars last event, logged in and still have them. is this a new change?

[broken solstice]

whoa thats awesome. never heard of that one

[sterile ferry]

yeah its intended for you to lose them, consider yourself lucky i guess

[hidden prawn]

it was 130!

[broken solstice]

holy moly

[hidden prawn]

not insignificant, thanks massive IG

[small spear]

damn you have 6.466855e+219 stars?

[hidden prawn]

🤓

[sterile ferry]

lmao was gonna say that

[inner elbow]

Yeah it was a silent fix.

This game has a lot of noobproof mechanics

[azure lintel]

Why do ppl kick from countdown 🤣

[twilit ether]

My completion time for Iron Horse is not showing? Doesn't allow me to jump to me not even a option. Every other person in the clan raid has there time posted but I am not shown. Can anyone help??

It is showing my completions

[sturdy shore]

hey guys i got question

for some reason i wanna replace my weapon dmg to armor on my striker set

but it will only let me optimize it

[kind veldt]

did you already change any stats with recalibration on that piece?

[sturdy shore]

nope

[kind veldt]

are you selecting the item then pressing tinkering or are you going into recalibration then selecting the item?

[sturdy shore]

tinkering?

yeah

[kind veldt]

go to recalibration menu first then select the item from there

[full zinc]

im guessing heroic.. its usually for low shd/ perceived bad build

[north furnace]

what should i do once i hit level 30?

and finished all the main stories

no dlc

[undone timber]

Do you plan on getting the DLC

And have you already reached world tier 5

[north furnace]

no not yet

when do i unlock specializations?

what do most players do in the end game?

[undone timber]

Most players are already in new York or post new york

[undone timber]

When you reach level 30

[undone timber]

Ought to do that then

[north furnace]

who do i talk to?

[kind veldt]

did you do capitol mission?

[undone timber]

Division co ordinator in the white house iirc

[proper tundra]

if i reroll an exotic wep does it lose the expertise ?

[warm minnow]

No

[proper tundra]

thanks

[azure lintel]

Nah challenging, but I realized the guy was trolling and kicking everyone out just wasting everyone’s time

[left fjord]

These challenges where's best to do them

[lethal sonnet]

Gear set chests and backpacks dont have a third attribute?

[neon wyvern]

All gearsets are missing one minor attribute

it's just balance

[lethal sonnet]

I see

Is it possible to get CHD and CHC as minor attributes on a BA at the same time?

[balmy cedar]

BA?

Belstone armory?

Yes it is

If it’s a backpack or chest determine if the talent is worth for you keeping tho

[jolly talon]

Morning agents

[fast harness]

Anything new?

[sterile ferry]

Golden bullet started a while ago

[fast harness]

Meh

[flat pond]

Is Cross progression available between PS5 and pc for div 2?

[sturdy shore]

it keeps the talent but the preset stats will be random

[jolly talon]

What is golden bullet actually ? I have no clue what it does or where it is 😅

[undone timber]

No

[undone timber]

It's a global event

Kill an enemy with the golden bullet to get a huge fire rate and handling boost and free reloads on kill

Buff refreshes per kill

[sterile ferry]

have you played div1?

[jolly talon]

Nope

[alpine oriole]

Anyone know if you can access your characters from another platform if you log into the same Ubisoft account?

[sturdy shore]

Golden can happen on any map

bullet*, as long if it's just regular stuff

it doesn't work on end game stuff

[jolly talon]

Ah ok , I am trying to pay attention to it but i fail at it most of the time 😅

[sterile ferry]

was gonna say its Lone Star on crack

[lunar hare]

AFAIK, nope, there is no cross saving

I saw the other day someone saying it affects the game architecture or something like that, short answer is the first sentence

[alpine oriole]

Ok, thank you, just wanted to ask before I go through all the trouble of changing the password lol

[lunar hare]

If its the same console, yes, if you switch from xbox to psn or pc, it won't happen

[lunar hare]

np

I want to buy a ps5 but leaving all my progress on xbox is kinda boring (I'm not even shd 300 LMAO)

[alpine oriole]

Yeah, I’m moving to PC from XB, restarting gonna suck but it is what it is

[lunar hare]

yup

fingers crossed for ubi to enable cross saving with td3 🤞
||won't happen.||

[azure lintel]

Too expensive

At least for ubi

Why we can't have more loadout slots or grouped and other things

I just want the old long dark dz back

[fair lake]

Servers are crying, have some mercy

[azure lintel]

😂

[grand dove]

so much for using countdown as a way to grind resources right now, since they keep kicking me

[long wraith]

i haven't been on discord in a couple of years..last time to get EB from Drk Hours raid.. This platform has changed a bit now. How can i join a group for the Iron Horse raid?

[azure lintel]

#lfg-raid-pc

[long wraith]

Yes thanks i understand that but there used to be voice raid channels on the left of the window under 'raids', thgey seem to have disappeared

[lunar hare]

for legal/security reasons iirc

its somewhere announced here

[azure lintel]

Was removed but there are other servers where people use it but idk if I can mention/promote it here

[lunar hare]

the way to go is saying there is a community server, that's it

[long wraith]

ok thanks

[opal radish]

Servers are gonna be dead they can't save a load out on one slot and you are expecting them to do more is a recipe for disaster

[gaunt kettle]

hey, I have a question, I play conflict, if I change weapons, do I also have to change frame, I play striker 🤔🤔

[azure lintel]

Depends on the build, is it crits based if so then on changing weapons you'd most likely have to check if your crit chance is around 50-60 after swapping still

[gaunt kettle]

ok, thanks for the answer, I have to check if my chance won't drop, yes, I have the striker build

[gaunt kettle]

so I have dps build

[frank ice]

hows everyone doing

[tender wave]

Matchmake on challenging, don't bring a skill build, you should be fine. People kick for bad reasons on heroic, but challenging is pretty much as good anyway.

[hollow acorn]

Are hacking prevalent in this game?

I swear this guy who answered my back up call were teleporting and shooting thru walls

Im not sure whether it just lag, i didnt wanna take risk and just left the grouo

[lethal sonnet]

Teleporting might be lag but shooting through walls doesn’t really account for it.

It’s probably a hack.

Personally I haven’t seen many hackers because I like to do things solo and seldom call for backup. Only case I could recall was one of my CD sessions a few weeks ago

[hollow acorn]

He was just standing behind a wall while the enemies were dying one by one

[lethal sonnet]

Yep, it’s hacking then

[hollow acorn]

If it were lag, his location should register first before his hits

[azure lintel]

Yes

Shooting through walls is prob the most obvious of the cheats I'd say specially if they're auto firing sniper rifles and 1 tapping everything across the map

[hollow acorn]

Oh he actually was using a sniper rifle

I didnt expect finding a hacker in a pve content

[lethal sonnet]

RPM is way too accessible for multiplayer shooting games these days…

More aggressive cheats are probably less seen because they are usually charged

[tender wave]

Hacking in pve is much less common but I've seen a few reports of it recently so seems to be slightly on the rise

[real creek]

Bro the countdown hackers are just crazy to me cause you know they are there farming gear on an account someone paid to have a build done on.

[tender wave]

Yeah I tend to assume pve hackers are mostly just farming out accounts to sell

[real creek]

Still crazy how much people pay for that junk.

[jolly talon]

people who are lazy and want everything in the game without putting in effort and then complain the game is boring and nothing to do 😂

I am oversimplifying it and scarcasm as well

[azure lintel]

Well to be fair, there does need to be more in the game to do lol

[jolly talon]

there is a difference into playing the game and achieving things or getting gear , then just buying an account with everything on it and then have the nerve to complain there is nothing to do

[broken solstice]

dont buy accounts it breaks the terms of service

[rain hedge]

i really need to finish my hunter masks, but i got put off of it because of the church bell one, it almost never worked for me

and then the trio hunters, they despawned because they ran away chasing patrol npcs

[torpid tendon]

Good morning everyone.

Well, I'm kinda afraid of doing the hunters easter eggs.... I mean, I barely managed to beat the 2 from the summit

[rain hedge]

for me its the fact that its so time consuming for NY hunters, if you fail you gottaa wait sooo much

[broken solstice]

it does take a while but i got most of them done in one day and finished the last 3 or 4 encounters the next day

both sets of hunters

[real creek]

I swear half or more of your hunter hunting is watching the guide or waiting around.

[broken solstice]

yeah true

at least the clock isnt hidden in a stupid place anymore

[jolly talon]

Exactly , but people will still do it

[broken solstice]

yeah i know. seems like a waste of money to buy the game in the first place if someone is gonna do that

[hybrid ore]

On the plus side, once they get caught Ubi will likely nuke the heck out of them from orbit.

aka: whatever the equivalent of an IP ban is in this case.

[real creek]

Breh you just pull out photo mode and afk for a bit ez

[broken solstice]

now its more easy and i like it

[real creek]

lol yeah it's def one of those "why didn't they do this before?" things for sure.

[broken solstice]

dont get me wrong i didnt have a probem going into photo mode for the time, but after going into photo mode like every 5 minutes when you're doing these hunters it got annoying

[hybrid ore]

Cut to footage of a MSV dev making that change a year earlier and then walking back to the main office and seeing everything on fire.

[rain hedge]

pretty much, thats why i hate when it doesnt work or when hunters runaway (it has happened)

[broken solstice]

yea ive had a run away hunter but i caught up

[hybrid ore]

They run after too much time has passed, generally speaking.

[rain hedge]

mines ranaway because, of friendly npcs

only one out of the trio stayed to fight me, the others just went off to chase friendly, and i guess they despawned

[dapper pendant]

I just got yeld at ingame for using the CFB function when I'm doing bounties on heroic with 4 directives on. I'm I in the woring here?

*wrong

[tender wave]

nope, some people just hate certain directives because they invalidate some builds, usually those people will just leave again though

[hybrid ore]

Was the person by any chance saying "turn that green s**t off"?

[real creek]

Keep your directives yo. I sometimes call for backup with all 5 on as I play 5 directives almost all the time.

[dapper pendant]

no, jsut said that I did not deserve backup when playing with directives on

[real creek]

Breh that guy is not a good shepherd

[tender wave]

yeah, ignore them

[dapper pendant]

the worst part is that it was a clan member:(

[real creek]

ouch

[hybrid ore]

Sounds like you should have a word with the clan management about them.

and if it is one of them, leave and find a better one.

[dapper pendant]

was planing to do that, but wanted to here if I did something wrong first

thanks for the awnsers:)

[broken solstice]

i got yelled at for shooting boomer in the head while he was down on his knee

ppl are odd

[real creek]

If you do a backup call you gotta be ready for anything and try to help, it's no shame as a shepherd to say "I'm not good enough to help you with these directives" and leave.

[neon wyvern]

I hate pistolero

[ocean escarp]

Where should I ask feedback-related questions?

[dapper pendant]

yes, but the community at large in TD2 is generaly very nice and inclusive:)

[kind veldt]

Thats why i finalized my regulus build

[hybrid ore]

Feedback in what respect?

[ocean escarp]

Regarding Conflict mode.

[kind veldt]

I like liberty but i wanted more power

[hybrid ore]

#td2-pvp-discussions is the place for you!

[real creek]

I love it yo. I even use it on AR builds in open world sometimes.

[torpid tendon]

That's the worst one, unless you're running hotshot...

[ocean escarp]

thank you

[neon wyvern]

I hate joining someone with it in cuz I spawn with 0 ammo

[tender wave]

We used to have someone in our clan who was determined to keep trying legendary strongholds with 5 directives, despite being hugely undergeared and inexperienced. Used to endlessly spam backup calls. We quickly learned to stop answering them

[hybrid ore]

It's the roll of the dice, if you don't like it then just join someone else.

[neon wyvern]

even worse when said pistolero runner is a turret drone user

[kind veldt]

Yeah thats the main issue, dropping on akd seeing 0 gets you with your pants down

[neon wyvern]

the xp is worth it

[tender wave]

Xp implies we stood any chance in hell of actually completing it

The guy wouldn't engage in any conversation either so we couldn't persuade him to play more realistic content

[kind veldt]

surely cant be worse than someone with purple gear doing legendary with hybrid 2/2/2 cores right?

[neon wyvern]

fastest kick in the west

[hybrid ore]

A surprising number of people just don't actually see the chat when it gets a message, it's actually kinda awkwardly designed where it doesn't really "notify" you and more just has it there if you're looking.

speaking from experience as someone who relies on it quite a bit.

[torpid tendon]

I wish there was a way to change the chat color... Even tried messing with the accessibility settings, but it just leaves a black square on the site.

[kind veldt]

oh i only realized when we were at the boss of legendary capitol and he was teh leader

many hours of pain

[lilac hull]

can you only matchmake for normal for incursion?
Not challenging, hard, etc?

[tender wave]

Correct, only Normal. It's not like Normal in open world/missions though.

[kind veldt]

incursion normal means more "default"

cause it's scalled closer to heroic

[timber scroll]

How do you get full black or white gear dye? Cause the black and white ones I have just make it mostly black or white but I want it full?

[unique bramble]

black: kill all NY hunters and get all of the keys

white: complete legendary Roosevelt island

[torpid tendon]

I got white and cyan(idk), from Roosevelt's

[timber scroll]

Is that the solid black?

My off white keys are glitched, I killed all the hunters and I still have 7 out of 8 keys but I have all the masks

[wind lynx]

what is going on with gear mods? in the past i could equip on different gear set same mods i had equipped into something else. now it is not working anymore?

[kind veldt]

if you mean having the same gear mod in multiple pieces of gear, i dont think that was ever possible