#td2-general-chat
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Countdown has been an issue since it was added but really got worse when the added the manhunt to Countdown.
I would imagine
I really enjoyed playing before they messed it up.
Servers down?
hmm
if they dont resolve this problem fast the prime time in na is gonna start aswell
Still nothing in Belgium
i can already smell the waves this is gonna create on reddit
i'm waiting for like 3-4 hours now? It's not gonna be fast
time for Helldivers 2 then
I might go to bed, wanted to grind some more but
division already struggles hard with its playerbase..things like this just make sure it keeps going down sadly..like common i can understand 30min max but not multiple hours
ubi servers dead?
i picked today to reinstall @grave fox
havent seen any announcements
Ur saying this like this happened intentionally, cmon dude it happens
last time i re-installed all i could get was a black screen. tried several times
ofc it didnt happen intentionally otherwise theyd have announced it duh
played it since first release up until it would crash hard on a boss fight
is it still really flaky?
my bad than, didn't see your "sarcasm" in this message
there was only sarcasm in my last message
Wth happened
Black Tusk used the stolen bioreactor and popped the power supply. Their bad.
its already taking nearly as long as an extended maintenance
Clearly too many people logged into their new AAAA game
FF14 at the launch of Endwalker had to pull the entire base game and DLC from sales for months and we had to deal during that time that no one could even log in because the servers were just overcrowded . So yeah no a couple of hours for a game like this is in my eyes normal
launch of a big mmo is completely different to whats going on atm
like not even able to be compared kinda different
i want to play but normal ubi having issues
servers are up for me
Where are you?
damn
Technical issues will always take place if you can't have the patience waiting for a fix that is on you ^^
looks like they actually up
mine is still down
times like this I just go 'oh well, time to touch grass I guess' and read a book on the hammock out back ๐
time for helldivers 2
things like that can be said about every single problem..doesnt help anybody or justify anything tho
it it does feel bad when I'm in a mood for a specific game and the servers are down ๐
i was just able to login
whats grass?
Neither does constantly complaining about the servers being out while people are working on it
Also in, also euw.
ill just use your own logic now...if you dont have enough patience to not unnecessarily argue with other people and let them talk in an official channel then that is on you^^
Are you complaining just to complain? Because I can count on one hand how many times countdown has crashed on me since I started playing in januar, and it has only done it a single time since Project Resolve.
On top of that - the people that fix servers aren't reading jack shit while trying to fix them lmao.
Downtime always sucks on a live service, but like - to be that annoying guy - I've been online the whole time, in-game, grinding.
it was pretty rough for a bit... but that was more an issue with bugging out the anderson mission for unlimited spawys/kill xp and the same type of thing for the faye lau mission
I am just saying that needless repeating that servers are down't help anyone nothing more ^^
Not surprised but we are in their hands to get stuff working ^^
It works on my machine ๐
here @random quest ๐ฟ , apparently it looks like its gonna be one of those days ...๐ฟ ๐ฅฑ
Real talk, buttery popcorn or glazed with chocolate? mhmh ๐ฟ
yay its up for me now
dunning kruger too strong so it seems
buttery yes never had the chocolate one
White or milky chocolate for me - can still be salty
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Not salty in that way, I mean salted popcorn glazed with white/milky chocolate :3
nice, yeah there is never a lack of salt 
i have a feeling it was gonna come up soon. logged an hour into arma3, rechecked the launcher and it was taking time to fail instead of instantly
Oh never had it like that , i did try it with peppers
I'm gonna hand you a mirror and tell you to have a good look in it 
Bringing up Dunning-Kruger to try and sound smart, when all you've done is display salty gamer tears in the last hour. I mean 
now im fully in game
Nice !
@random quest Does the daily rotation for gear change between every activity or just to a select few?
replying for somebody else doesnt justify starting a needless arguement
now get of your high horse, calm down and take a deep breath white knight
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Calling me names aswell, really showing the Dunning-Kruger effect at full force 
And again, I've been in-game all the time, so whatever ๐ฟ ๐ป
yeah thats what i wrote about 15min ago before i got spammed
Just ironic you're telling me to calm down and take a deep breath, when that's all you've been told 
good job finding out by yourself :) proud of you
You can dish, but not take getting dished back? 
What up local, how was day?
Local sharing is caring that popcorn ! ๐
eh, was good. nice weather, little commitments, cant complain
so returning player here, able to login (yay), and a quick question: start from the beginning and enjoy it all afresh with the fixes and improvements? or pick up where i was (lvl 34 + 23) and just get to endgame?
you arent dishing anybody here :D if you think that you can tell people that they arent allowed to express game related opinions in an official game related channel you must be day dreaming my friend :) and thats all im gonna reply
Uh, I mean, Targeted Loot rotates between every activity and zone in the game (except for Descent and Conflict, you know what I mean)
You won't always find a specific brand/gear/type, because there's more types than activities.
Pick up where you left off. You'll end up replaying most of the content anyone
get to endgame. you can restart an alt and run it fresh at your own pace to refresh on the lore
Depends - you wanna play for the story? Start from scratch. You wanna just get back into it? Get to endgame, just boost your 23 to WONY and take it from there.
or look up NGN on yt, he has a whole lore series
His stuff is better than In-game honestly
Oh i see yeah that makes sense
You clearly don't understand what "dishing out" means. And I never told you what you're accusing me of - I said you should take a look in the mirror when you started throwing around the Dunning-Kruger effect, because it seems to be in full force for you aswell ;)
And since I did that, you've called me names, told me to calm down (which was what draconis basically told you, but instead of doing that you started calling him names too - again, putting the Dunning-Kruger to full display) and here we are. You, failing to realize you should just take the L so we can move on 
yyou know, thinking about it
other than murdering civillians, the true sons dont commit any extra war crimes
and the agent commits the most amount, with their gadgets
Dunno, chemicals weapons are on the top three of war crimes i think
man that was not something i planned to write today
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There is an entire treaty concerning them
dont the outcasts plan to use chemical weapons more than the true sons?
because from my knowledge riot foam is the only chemical thing they use
DC-62?
Outcasts are trying to spread the Green Poison, True Sons are yeah, using dc-62 as it's shown to be an effective tool for chemical warfare and readily available.
It's poopy you can only have 1 exotic weapon
It's basically about balance for Exotics, if you could use more than one of each, the great ones would be a heck of a lot weaker.
Well allow it unlocked higher levels
Unlocked higher levels?
think he means high level people should be able to use more
No, like another exotic slot for each higher difficulty lol
That is the oddest request I've heard for quite some time on here, and someone the other day asked for drivable vehicles when the roads clearly are blocked.
But anyway, I need to sort my gear out, having so much fun with this St Elmo's gun n the patriot gear set (trying to get the chest) but I need to decide which specialist I like and which gadgets
True patriot ouch
outcasts are war crimes even ignoring the green poison
flamethrowers
Firewall tree says what.
lmao yeah
flame turrets and the cleaner mortar turrets are just warcrimes in general
also in a sense of technicality, the seeker mines (minus mender roller) are warcrimes
Being able to combine a sports jacket and sandals may also count, so our Agent is guilty on many counts.
Doesn't aussies wear sandals all the time?
thanks @gloomy wyvern @full zinc and @random quest . i might take the 34 through, mess around a bit, then start up from the beginning. cool, ta!
What's wrong?
I'll admit, forgot what we were talking about and went "34? That's an old ass car" 
I wish the mortar turret just auto fired
that would be no fun, or skill
It's not very good
Nah those are flip-flops (we call them thongs)
when i used to live next to the french/canadian border, summertime visitors to the state always had a lot of socks with sandals combos
Ah, yeah. I'd argue wearing thongs with the sports jacket is a bigger warcrime 
But ....it looks cool, I thought the 3 debuffs were good. Plus the fireworks on kills
Cluster seekers? See I'm a lazy skilled.... currently using mender seeker n attack drone
TP is fun, it's just not "meta-meta"
Good for Countdown afaik
I got a exotic marksmen rifle n some aces n eight....might try that
How does it go again?
Hotshot > High-End > Aces with regard to Sniper setups
tbf HH kinda invalidates all the gear sets and becomes a QOL option if you consider gear sets. Hots is only good because it gives the largest bonuses.
For mules when I hit 40 I get my main acc shade lvl ?
Yeah SHD is replicated across all characters and maintains your current max SHD.
hh?
Head hunters.
I think i did something wrong xD
what did you do ๐ค
I saw on the map that striker was dropping from the hornet manhunt but i already did the manhunt for hornet and now i can't apparently do it again ๐
you should be able to. or just switch mode and run tidal in replay. target loot should be the same
also summit and countdown you can select your own target loot. 1 run in cd and you will have more pieces than you can shake a stick at
yeah, you can matchmake. challenging best for beginners since 4 agents can carry the team. 8man mission
just stay with the pack and mop up. no skills other than shield and revive. chem ok, but nothing deployable since it gets hacked
oh i will have to unlearn my skills then for this xD
Ey so I havenโt played this game in a LOOONG time, is meta any different? Last I played for pvp it was AR and shields
its changed since then a bit. shield disorients on break and doesnt proc insync
I never used anything else then the turret and the hive xD
But i can just set the loot for myself to striker right?
yeah
The almighty bee technique
If the hive moved with you I'd use it
Striker was the dps one right?
I had really good luck with weapon drops with exotics and raid weapons but MAAAN I could never get the right armor piece
map > hover over summit > hold h (iirc) and select there . summic and cd share the same target loot
Is the bighorn still hard to get
if it gets hacked it could be a team wipe
yes
I still have bragging rights with my friends then
Excellent
To bad I canโt aim to actually use it
there was a big rebalancing recently as well #patch-notes message
Ooooooooo good
some of the shit weapons from before have been buffed
I have a lot of those
Since Iโm a hoarder who canโt get rid of things
My storage never has room
Oh wait
Ha Iโm an idiot
All my stuff shall stay locked in my PlayStation account
Since Iโm on pc now
Gives me a chance to avoid mistakes I did before at least
I just hope I get as lucky as I did before
damn, i just have exos in my stash as im trying to get every single one
Hoard it
i keep an imperial dynasty for no good reason
division 2 is on sale on steam for 9 dollars
iron lung is really really nice tho. even with braced (a non damage chest talent to deal with the lmg reload speed ) it still does plenty of damage
Nice my screen is getting burned from countdown๐
JESUS they really took away voice chat because they couldnt mod it? Dude what is wrong with these people
blame kids these days i guess
It wasn't due to modding it, as we at the mod team had no issues with it.
No one actually knows why it's gone.
It's gone and i didn't even realise bc I have it off 
It's what they said here.
At the end of the day it's a legal issue, as Ubisoft, the server owner, is a legal entity. Discord ToS, afaik, puts the legal liability on the server owner.
Ubisoft either needs a moderator in voice chats at all time (costly) or needs to record everything being said just in case (requires consent from all parties, which cannot be guaranteed and is a hell of a mess because of GDPR).
It's a bit easier to close voice channels ^^
Morning agents 

me when the game crashes so it brings everything on my PC with it

I had to restart it
I don't think I've ever had to do that before
restart my PC bcz the game decided to be silly
how do i specifiy the loot drop for countdown?
Goto map> hover over countdown or summit > hold h
You have to yell at the game very loudly
Both share the same target so either will work
What does item slot needs to be extracted mean?
Exactly what it says on the box - you cannot recalibrate or optimize an attribute/talent if you haven't extracted it from an item.
is there a chance to get the Coyote mask from Mask alocated missions or is it only from the boss Coyote ?
Any mask target loot has a chance
Thank you
Finally i got all exotic yesterday EB now i am done ๐
happy now?
Ohh yeahhh
I am aware of what it says there, as I am able to read the same message you are.
However I am saying that the reason given is not the actual reason.
We had no issue moderating the voice channels, as people would just send us recordings or such, or we worked around the limitations. And honestly, fairly few issues overall anyway, it's usually a few bad apples after all.
holy i got my scorpio on the first try
hey grats! It's a hell of a shottie.
Wait, scorpio on a striker setup?
๐ณ 4k 150+ fps with a 4090
do u guys know hy im in chinese servers?
someone asked yesterday "why do all the strikers builds use scorpio?"
wait. what now?
Have you not seen the math's for it it is just so busted
For your reference #td2-build-advice message
The only reason super 90 isnt the most busted shotgun is because of the reload
Six-12 doesnt have that issue so of course is strong af
I'd assume that it would require some kind of stack building gun, as the six12 is just kinda "okay" at it.
also yeah the reload.
Six 12 doesn't have reload issue also with fast hand changes super 90 reload won't be that much annoying
yeah i just ate my word in a typo
Ohh you edited lol
Well you added more, so it's more like you nailed it on to the end.
FH with current mechanic is close to fh cap 54% CHC on super 90 8*8 = 64 pellets = 35 fh stacks = 140% reload speed
happens pretty often, but as a shotgun connoisseur
supplemented the content with an edit, there we go.
Six-12 is the best shotgun probably
I thought scorpio was the best 
scorpio is an six-12
which is a six12 technically
do guys know why they only speak chinese in global?
Six12 without the busted talent 
i hear someone say i might be on chinese servers
It's mostly bots advertising stuff.
thats just how it has been since game release
we had the same issue in div1
ahh okay
Just turn off global, it's not useful.
so i have my build done. what now?
You must be on Asia server should turn off lobby chat
go do things
thats weird im from the netherlands
like what?
I can confirm it is 100% not just on an "asian server", as I've used a VPN for multiple countries and still get the chinese spam.
hunter masks, raids, incursion, exotic projects
you have really strong per shot with custom M870, best overall DPS with Six-12 that has all good sides and no downsides, best for building stacks and for fun with ACS-12
all shotguns works but these three are without any doubt the best
yeah i play in europe myself and sometimes US East if playing with buddies, still full of spam
Six12 is God no doubt waiting for iKia Shotgun Spreadsheet
RiP China with their own div2
all i remember is someone posting a new exotic P90 they have over there with some crazy talent
i just leave global chat muted... anyone i want to talk to is in my clan/my mm group/ or here
Wut mod deleting mod AI gone wrong 
Pardon?
auto mod has no fucks to give /s 
There was no auto-mod.
/s
You can always whisper ๐
the preview for the link was deleted
it just stopped the embed
yeah i just dislike the embeds.
i wipe them whenever i post it.
just looks messy. I'm weird like that.
< > gets rid of preview iirc
man send-off is such a bummer
Eh, I'm already using a code for the link so no idea if it'll break that somehow.
easier just to click twice once i do.
/jk
Honestly, 32m is pretty great, if it didn't take up a talent slot I'd use it.
doesnt matter becaus only 3 pellets hit after like 8 meters
so godly range when no pellets hit is the issue
There is where my ridiculous love for WH comes in handy.
I can hit it after 10m 
i did use it with braced and other weird handling talents to increase accuracy to max
you get a wonky 1886 in the shotgun slot
double barrel is the reverse with the best accuracy if you are aiming in cover
but worst range
never understood why they nerfed the range of the full sized double barrel shotgun, well i do understand (thanks PVP), but i think it deserves a bit of a buff in that aspect
its always bugs me how short shotgun range is in video games
i like mine with lucky shot
yea lucky shot is a good idea with that mag size
I am talking about HH Build
you alreaady clarified that
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nah sniper
There is no nah sniper in this game 
i use m700 to get initial stack ๐
i usually go with covert srs with no scope for HHF secondary
and 1886 in the other slot
if not a shotgun
it's just like in descent for me: shotgun, mmr, pistol
yea shotgun i almost forgot about somehow
yea if i dont get a SASG in descent i try again until i get one
Moment when descent gives you the best weapon 
super 90, m700, magnum
๐ฏ rare af
i never even seen a magnum
just magnum and diceros are enough for me
That's my LV 30 2-in-1 reg + sniper build too
i just completed one of todays GE challenges in the firing range
wh-
eliminate hostiles without shooting opposite polarities
He eliminated his hostiles without polarities ๐
I havenโt done the GE yet, I donโt feel like using my brain
Hey guys so i got my striker build with scorpio and the grudge
What should be my next grind? I just got the chameleon and im trying tocget the coyote maak
A lot of people like the St Elmoโs if you want to try for that
Coyotes is also good to go for
Yeah i am already going for that with countdown and assult rifles as my selected loot
Getting a healer build together since you have a Scorpio isnโt a bad idea
Then it depends on your play style what you want
headhunter and crowd control are the other big ones
Alright ill check it out
Some people like Hunters fury, some people like HH, some people like HHF 
certified hhf enjoyer here
My current hunters fury set is used for Liberty Island + Lady Death
Itโs a whole lot of W key
I can never seem to get a good time for liberty island
Itโs not about the time itโs about the friends you made along the way
i fully completed the first 2 days worth of challenges without ever looking at what the challenge were. this GE has a lot of easy stuff that you accomplish just by playing
6 pcs 5.11 negates the entire GE Bypasses everything
I canโt believe Div2 is FIVE YEARS OLD. I remember seeing the game in a Ubisoft direct and going โhuh, that looks ok.โ And then not thinking about it again until the famous 3$ sale. Several years and 700 hours laterโฆ here I am
I gave the reason right under - but as usual, when we converse, you always go "Yeah, I can read that".
Relax, we're having a conversation.
You can't use recordings, as there's no permission to make them. Outside of that, it's a GDPR issue - and to reiterate, legal issue, legal entity.
Just leave off PM'ing me from now on, you seem to have some kind of issue with me personally and I am not interested in it.
he didnt imply you did bad job at moderating voice chats, but on company terms they would need to have someone 24/7 in all of them to be able to say that everything was happening according to rules
You're free to hit block on me, I just don't understand the need for passive aggressiveness in this message. That's my problem, nothing else.
I never said that anyone implied anything, the simple fact is that the voice channels were removed without us being told about it, it had absolutely nothing to do with us and any guess is as good as another. on what the actual reason is.
I'm not being passive aggressive, merely stating that you seem to target me specifically when it comes to messages and replies.
As for why I can't say, I have guesses but honestly it's not worth thinking about.
They banned VC cause too many people were saying UwU and ara ara....
Legit reason, 100%.
Anyway, on to more fun topics. How is everyone finding the Project changes?
The message I replied to is passive aggressive.
With regards to the reason, they mention moderation - not the moderation team.
It's in the "message you can read"
They cannot keep records (that's about consent, you need that legally to record - and GDPR which is just on top of that)
They then mention the alternative is to have a moderator in every active VC channel, which just isn't economically feasible.
You really need to stop.
think you both are thinking too much and purposely reading the wrong thing about eachother about this
I honestly do not care about this issue. They're gone, they are not coming back.
the only people who 100% know why they are gone are Ubisoft's legal department, probably.
And my girl friends brothers cousin who lives in the basement of his grandmas house.
They've been gone for quite a while at this point, why people can not let it go is somewhat confusing but 
If I was capable of using them back then, maybe I'd care more. Probably.
Brah offical discord raids were a lot of fun. We'd pick up noobs and run them thru all the time.
I don't really understand why you do not believe the stated reason though? Like is there some reason why they would not tell the truth?
oof
Lmao, I saw that embed.
to the link that wase sent
YEET
Thank ISAC for auto-mod.
(Yo, mods, send over them links in DM, wink wink, nudge nudge)
here's a fun game, guess how many links it's caught in the last 2 hours. Just 2 hours.
Brah the amount of people in here and the amount of spam I might have my eyes up for I'd guess like 200.
I mean, they're hijacked accounts so a lot of them are likely from the same source.
Auto mod log go brrrrrr
cause a lot of them spam in every channel until somethingbans them
but sure i 'ill just guess a small number of 6
Yeah but like. I'd say 5 unique accounts, maybe 20 ish links
actually they're a lot smarter these days, some still mass spam, but some limit the number of posts in order to go under an auto-ban.
8 in 2 hours, which is fairly low but they're more common in the busy times.
wow that's uhh dissapointing.
got pretty close
29 yesterday, they tend to cluster which I assume is some auto thing the bots that post them do.
These numbers are way smaller then I would have expected for a server with 110k+ members.
Honestly the fact that the auto mod is so effective is part of the credit for that.
we contribute to it too, in our own small way.
I never get DMs tho, maybe it's my message settings?
I barely get any of those and feel kinda left out.
I guess they know I'm not looking for lonely singles in my area.
My 2 cents i am pleasantly surprised how chill and welcoming this community is in all honesty
Worst scam DMs are the "artists" that wants to ask if you need a new overlay or whatever to your stream, then you say you don't stream and they're like "Do you wanna check up my stuff"
Oh you haven't seen anything yet.
wsa talking about bots that just DM clearly ilegal stuff such as tutorials on how to make credit card fraud
thankfully changes to discord made them disappear
If ever someone is a jerk to you on the server to any kind of serious degree, just drop a line to the ModMail and I'll break their knees for ya.
politely of course.
that is also not something i expected to write today
That sounds omnious ๐
Thanks Rivens ๐
Oh those.. those I'm missing out on.
Just saying i know some communities can be quite toxic to be in even when you keep to your own business
lol I'm just saying after being around enough you'll see some unhinged people go off about nothing and sometimes you'll be the target.
And sometimes they're just really, really into talking about the LMB.
like that guy blaming joe the developer
Yeah sorry, can't do much about the armchair devs. They are relentless.
Oh yeah in the FF14 comunity you have plenty of those , some of them make it a mission to make others time miserable for simply playing a class or a race they don't like ๐
No no, it was a guy ranting about "the guy that scripted X behaviour" and I told him to ask Joe about it.. as in Joe Mama, but everytime he ranted about the dev after that he was ranting about "Joe" 
What do you mean the LMB ?
You'll find out in the next DLC, probably if the rumours are true.
faction from div1.
Oh wait a second ! LMB as in the faction ? that i believe one the manhunt targets mentioned in a recording where he said " I would be looking good in winter camo"
Yeah exactly. Think of them like the Black Tusk, if the BT were much less effective and kinda overdid it on the outfits.
So more like fancy True Sons then?
Kinda. They were effectively a private securiy firm (PMC) hired to get rich people out, but just sorta didn't.
1 star on yelp, basically.
oh i see , would be interesting to meet them .
TD1 had such a great story compared to TD2
We capped their leader back in div1 and they kinda disbanded.
I am planning to give countdown a run during the weekend and targeted loot for striker gear set.
before recently, the last lore we had on them was pretty much "some joined BT"
I just want to go rogue so I can have ANNA instead of ISAC
Makes sense fanatics often lose cohesion when their leader gets taken out
I am pretty sure i have several pieces of a jade coloured set that boosts dps and armor i think I can't remember the name nor the logo
Oh gearsets, yeah they're about on-par with high-end (gold)/exotic gear, just depends on your build.
just a reminder that anything below that (purple, blue, etc) are all worthless and you should break them down.
A big chunk of builds use a combination of Sets, high-end, and exotics.
yeah so i heard , but i have to get something running because i want to level up my SHD level and get that mask of the season pass and starting to focus down on the manhunts , the hunters and exotics at one point ๐
You still have over 13 weeks. Plenty of time.
Actually when there's a new thingy starting where you get extra SHD for 15 levels is a great time to knock some out,
that and Apparel Events. Each cache in it requires 4 level ups, so it's worth farming during those.
if you want a nice and simple starting build to run around the open world on Challenging (good start before you make the push to Heroic when you're ready) I highly recommend a Hunters Fury setup. Self-healing, damage buffs, bit of tank if you use the Memento version. It's a good work-horse.
Okay, what a banger of a song in the first 10 secs of that 5year anniversary vid. Need that in-game (Apparently from the Descent soundtrack)
RIVENS. THEY SAID THE THING "It's not a sprint, it's a marathon"
Are you in the video? Susge
lmao, Yannick teasing us in the end with post year 6 stuff
I choose to believe that was from me and not from whomever I stole it from back in 2003.
I've heard it many times before, but the main division related person I've heard saying it is you. So you gotta fight with the lady in the video (can't remember any of their names tbh)
Just got the game on pc any settings I should change
A bunch typically. Biggest must is "show group skills on frame" otherwise it's preference mostly.
Alright thanks
Even got the PC tag now...
#td2-clan-recruitment idk if you've checked here.
oh i missed that haha my fault
Damn div 2 is five years old..
had 15 shd levels for no reason in dz... what could cause that
Dz weekly project is giving extra XP
Also there was a "double SHD gained for 15 levels" thing recently.
3100 players on steam! Not bad!
LMB best faction
LMB on top
RAHHH
hello im confuzed which edition gives new york and the year one pass i wanna gift it to a friend
new york expansion is more important than the year one pass
Just a note that the "year 1 pass" is nothing to do with a Season Pass, it just gives some cosmetics and stuff.
i was wondering if certain activities in end game give cosmetics or are they bound to events and cash shop?
Well you can get a bunch from just random suitcases and such around the world, but a bulk of them are from Apparel Events (can be gained for free for the first 2 weeks of the Event) and you can buy some with "Textiles" from the store.
Honestly, you don't have to spend a single dollar on cosmetics in div2, there's more than enough freebies.
still wierd you can't buy the one year pass with out buying the most expensive endition
As someone who owns it, I never even use the cosmetics in it at this point.
Does it contain the Classified Missions? Those are the most useful part of any bonus stuff.
and only useful as a few extra Fast Travel points.
They don't really "loop" anymore, we're just getting new ones.
they only looped before because the game was in a "holding pattern" of sorts for development. It's being actively worked on now.
oh so its fomo now..
becuase i didn't play actively
missing out on lore from the seasons
It's not fomo, you can get it later by replaying the final mission. (each named enemy within gives you 1 comm)
you can do the same with all current Manhunts actually.
oh
this one of the most friendly live service game to get back in and easy to get stuff you missed (outside of cosmedics)
I did even a couple of manhunts that have taken place ^^
It really is Bird ๐
And FF14 those are the 2 most friendly games to get missed out event stuff
Gotta keep all the players we have left
people constantly become dramatic cancelling sub to "protest" against the long wait of the FF14 new dlc and the teaser trailers ๐
New dlc for div2?
No FF14
Just mentioning how dumb people can be people can be towards the games they love
That reminded me of a pickle i was in like last year about ubi
I mean game companies do make really dumb decisions but that is a whole new can of worms ๐
Nah nah mine is a bit unique/niche lmao
well we are getting a DLC for div2 but only next year
Ohh nice
Happy Friday Everyone 
So basicaly a kind soul from this server played a few rounds with me (this is before i had warlords dlc)
And i was broke so that kind hearted man gave me a 10 usd gift card for ubi wallet
Now it turns out ubi dont have a wallet service in my country nor does the support in any way help as to if and or how can i either return that card or use it as the gifter intended
So i am stuck with some guys 10 usd card that i cant use ๐ i really hope they start a wallet in my country so i can use it
Its saturday for me and for some reason i have COLLEGE
i hope if they do div 3 it wil have more of a branching storyline if you wana go rogue or not
kind off boring how al the seasons is about rogues and we stay the good guy
I just tried Incursion Paradise Lost and I only reached the Lovebirds boss battle. Overall Incursion is Cuphead or Fromsoftware-level difficult.
Having the specializations unlocked + 8 classified missions is QoL if anything, not needed - but @odd wyvern ultimate edition is what you're looking for, it has base game + WONY + year 1.
I often see it on sale when just WONY isn't and vice versa.
Isn't cuphead hard tho?
Equally harder than Incursion.
Two players can carry the incursion with ease, like laughably easy incursion runs.
You probably need to work on builds/learn the fights tho.
i think the "feel" you need to learn here in the incursion is easier but it's multiplayer only so that kinda relies on others also having that
In the Lovebirds boss battle I and 3 other random players managed to defeat Johnson but we couldn't defeat Martinez.
would say you gone past teh biggest hurdle
Wright?
martinez is purely have patience to run around and make sure all ads are clear then killing her is easy
well hurdle in the lovebirds fight i mean
I just kill the bosses at the same time...
running in circles, that part got annoying shield-running cleaners.
and a few snipers
Doing that fight with two people only takes a minute and a half. You just need to learn the fight and work on builds.
I used dps and healer builds.
Well practice and good knowledge on how the fight works will help a ton.
@timber hatch said he wanted to make an updated incursion guide....
I just want to make a lovebirds guide, everything else is fairly simple
Or at least the rest of the community is on the same page. Lovebirds just has people still doing terrible week 1 "cheese" strats
I tried to complete regulus project. But Engraved Drum seems to be glitched out for me. I tried to complete the IH raid twice to see if it would solve the issue. But Lutinent Williams (3rd Boss) doesn't drop the engraved drum for me. Does anyone know how to fix it?
I still think a best practices vid could be a HUGE help cause I still get in pub groups that wanna do the strangest things for some parts. Going to middle for drones, hiding in the valve room on wright, gate str..... well you know.
You referring to the gate strat?
Well you only get pieces in your first clear per week
Do you have another regulus in your stash or inventory?
Yeah, the "pull your fingernails off" strategy
Lol
After summit floor 100 nerf Iโve avoided using that
I only used it my first clear
Nope my first time trying to get regulus. That means I gotta wait till Tuesday to try again?
Yes
That sucks..
Last night we did lovebirds no healer and one guy had only done gate so I'm explaining it. One of the other guys was like "why are we gonna do this when gate strat works and we can just chill here" well once we went out and killed them which had 1 wipe cause they all came to one side when they are supposed to split between the sides the guy was freaking out about how quick and easy it was. Gate strat is like doing tidal legendary and having people tell you to put a skill build on, just no.
it's so easy that nobody does it for real
I'm just praying that they put a timer on the gate once the fight starts and it closes after 15 seconds.
What if I create a new character, do I have start the whole project from the start?
Yes but it would only count for that character
So whatever pieces you have wonโt be counted for that character
Itโs easier to just wait till Tuesday unless you intend to have multiple characters
Cause WONY boring
WONY op tho
Keener megamind I want to destroy world plot
Dup watch scav points is too good to pass up. Get a carry, learn WONY, do em in 1.5 hours or less ez.
But Conleys voice ๐ญ
Fair enough.
Thanks
A bit of an alternative way of killing the polarity hostiles with spec weapons.
Drop to normal, tip of the spear and crossbow - enjoyable atleast.
does anyone else have the issue to not being able to return to New York?
No, at least no issue earlier today
Thatโs weird
yea i have no energy to figure out now , going to bed have a good one agents
Gn
Is the Oriboris SMg just a random drop? Can I farm Summit?
anyone know what to do with this? I get an error when I try to play the game for OSCAR-01, "An error has occured while accessing patch data". I just bought the game on steam - new player ๐ฆ
Ouro is only in the incursion
The ouroboros is exclusive to the incursion only. 1% chance from wright, johonson, and martinez with a 10% chance on box opening at the end which you can do 1 once a week on all 4 characters if you want.
Bruh, a 1% chance and 10% once a week. Why,,
bc exotic
Cause it's one of the strongest guns in the game?
Question as a newbie to these types of games....is the green sets better than the yellow....annnnd should I be dismantling, selling or taking the perks/skills from yellows, purples etc
its an exotic, 10% once a week is pretty damn high
How do you get the Ninja Backpack?
farm backpack targetted loot
1: sometimes but not always
2: if it's a perfect stat or talent you don't have then extract to library first, then you can pick between selling, dismantling or donating to expertise depending what you need (money, materials or neither)
Chat logger.. I can still see it!
HACKS! lol
that isn't what my 1000 premium credits said so ๐
Silly q time if I do library, tinker, expertise ....I know I'll lose the weapon for the trait, attribute etc buuuuut if I then add that trait is it one use or multiple
Once it's in the library it's there forever.
infinite useses for anything in your library.
It's also tied to your optimization capabilities so it's more important for that too.
Optimization???
Don't worry about that yet, just know it's good to fill up your library.
It's an end game way of maxing out rolls on equipment.
You can point him to the guides you pinned, Azur :3
Use the powers bestowed upon you
Naw too much work, it's better to short answer people over and over.
theres some great guide info pinned in the #ask-td2-community , check those out when you get the chance, maybe that will help
check the 2 recent pins, great info on that system for you
Cheers, I just don't know how I muddled through to lvl40 constantly changing which gun I use, now I've got gear galore (300+ yellows, around 50 greens so trying to work out what to do haha
Changing skills and guns while climbing to 40 is the best for new players tho. Builds don't really exist then anyway.
fill in your library with good stats first
the constnatly switching of guns will help you find what you like
I will say getting a purple pack with Combined Arms and two random greens with yellow cores at lvl 4 is sort of ridiculous. Yes, keep trying to kill the drone Hyena.
How am I suddenly doing millions of regular body shot damage with my striker in CD?
Are there builds that massively amplify team damage?
Like usually my max stack crits go as up as much as 900k to 1 mill
But Iโm getting 4 mill easily fsr
take a picture of your buff bar
theres quite a few team dmg buffs
Sorry Iโm noob so and i canโt post here
community works or build advice, just ping me
short range damage countermeasure most likely
always gives a weirdly huge damage buff
And also if I get a maxed attribute (all 3) gun should I keep it? In my case itโs a vector with CHC and DTA
^
Yes they should just give it on login so we don't have to play games and can watch other people play on Twitch instead. Like modern people.
10% is a lot.
Maybe try Super Mario instead? Where you don't have to farm gear
Lmao the message was hours ago, get a life. I can want different ways for it to be dropped. Like they added EB to the DZ, fine by me even at a low%, b#tch at other peoples messages in another server
Hours ago is not a lot of time compared to how long it will take for you to get the Ouroubos
Yeeees???
just get ouro. not hard
It's normal for online RPGs (looters or whatever) to have exclusive loot.
The DIvision 2 is a RPG but without elves and dwarves and swords.
If you don't go to some dungeons you don't get some items.
what
whyd you call out fantasy games when talking about RPG games
because lets be real here
most rpg games do follow a sort of formula for its races
also something i found funny about people on the reddit complaining about the dz
is that i know DAMN WELL they dont read the popup that says IT IS A PVP ENABLED ZONE, and the fact that they dont realize how absolutely fuckbusted our agent gets is wild
Sometimes it feels like instead of PVP enabled to PVP only
Because 99% of all RPGs got elves and swords and dragons and people seem to misunderstand the RPG concept just cause it got guns.
its moreso pvpve
It's World of Warcraft with guns, and you will not get certain items unless you do certain dungeons.
but people see the first p and focus on that
I think its more poeple forget RPG means role playing game
games like zero hour could be considered an RPG
lmao yeah
No, no, no - I watch full playthroughs on Twitch on games I think look cool, then I buy the game and realize it's not a game I wanna play on my own!
Uuuhhh.... that's what she said
Just like you're allowed to rant, we're allowed to say "Suck it up, 10% is nice lmao". It's not like the Incursion is massively difficult.
And if you're mad about someone replying to a message that was "hours ago" then what are you doing in a Discord server? We can't all be online all the time, but we still wanna engage when possible and get caught up.
how in the fuck do i kill these hunters for the midas and revenant mask? they eat my ass so bad i cant even touch them
shock trap the area before spawning them. use scorpio, profit
run it on lower difficulty as well, they can get pretty spongy
im on normal can i go lower?
no XD
also i really appreciate you
ig not
dude they are shitting on me
yeah, i can run cc for you rq
i dont wanna make you do that bro i gotta wait till dark anyway
youre a real one though
itll be a couple minutes. same ign
We all gotta wait till dark ๐ข (as in it's server wide)
Shock trap can be pretty huge
yeah i dont understand why we cant change times thats wild
If it just turned daylight it will be 40 something minutes
all good, yeah like 0730 i think
go rate my skill wd hybrid. decided to build something per our earlier convo
Yeah, saw it, pretty decent ngl
was pulling good numbers. went glass tho , oblit only helps the weapon
i found harmony was a bit more preferable
My next goal outside of just grinding to grind (just need to decouple these days) is to get backfire build rolling from Azurmen and then I wanna do something with Lady Death because of the movement speed
Just wish there were more move speed buffs, would love to have a solo zoom build for LZ grinding
I just wish i grinded this game earlier you guys got the juice
i thought about doing something with backfire and eclipse a while back, but just said f it.
I started in January 
you can get the bleed down if you keep the stacks around the same between reloads
Like I've played Div2 but not played Div2
Striker Backfire build If you can stand the rampup is kind of fun.
but again, realize its Backfire and its a niche weird thing.
i just started a week ago
and then you get over Backfire and go back to Striker meta.
and see, already after masks
Sorry, Aspect not Azur - I'm gunning for the one in the sheets
Just like your waifus think of you.
Until I get every build in there perfected + learn the playstyle, I'm not gonna go ham with variations (outside of that one countdown blue dilemma I cooked)
ah dont worry, youll cook up a lot of shit before too long... we all do ๐ ... best part of the game imho
i already have a super scuffed build with ninjabike backpack
when time gets close just shoot an invite. /invite localdeck . i usually answering backup calls or helping someone anyways, so no worries ๐ป
that still TECHNICALLY counts as a skill build lol
I have a cavalier healer build
if you used memento you could get 30% in every skill bucket... what are you unlocking with ninja?
Ahaha, I mean, that night I started cooking the bluescreendilemma for countdown I was really like "Okay, so a lot of buffs in countdown, how do you utilize the third attribute on bluescreen the best? By ofcourse changing it all up, getting more multipliers and rely on 3x coyote buffs from experience"
When it works, it really works.
How's bluescreen at extraction
Pretty damn good brother. Disrupt city
disrupt irrelevant
you get a pretty good stagger when it triggers, right
@full zinc you are a true hero
bluescreen has disorient but that's somewhere at 30 stacks
Pulse, Disrupt, Disorient marked targets and all hostiles within 10 meters of the target for 5 seconds. Keep the buff up and the team will keep up disrupting and disorienting everyone
even disrupt can stagger , probably not everything though
It's busted. Since you're already marking everything and their mom with Bluescreen, ND is a godsent. It's hella good
yeah i love nego
AK, you're just bad lmao I'm sorry.
BluescreenDilemma has made my Heroic Countdown runs much more enjoyable, especially extraction.
I can count one one hand how many times I haven't extracted on heroic since I began in January
i rarely even dps in cd though. its all hazpro cc ep for me. really actiive gamplay that way
Extracting is the easy part
killing all 4 hunters is where it's real
It's easy when they aren't really moving, because you tag them, then kill another enemy.
scuffed
brazos, one hana u, 2 palisade and a fenrir for capacitor damage
@full zinc how do i invite you again i see the backslash your name but where do i type this into kind sir?
also i know its not time as well just been trying to figure it out
in-game chat
@random quest thank you
i mainly do it because i run dz a lot more and id rather have the extra survivability and damage than just rely onmy machinery lol
Which US State has the smallest soft drinks?
seems like a trick question
Minnesota
any idea why? and why the fck do you know that
(Mini soda)
oh my god
played like a damn fiddle, and read like a book
i knew it was a trick question
you still fell for it
oh all the way
alright alright
All you get out of me is a
Ha.
but yeah my scuffed ass build actually does me good
its scuffed? is it also ratchet? (whatever that means)
Is it clank?
ratchet and/or clank
Still want a PS5 purely to play Ratchet and Clank
yeah i guess people rly like those games
I have nothing but love for the series.
is it a story driven platformer or something like that?
still mad the ps2 games have been so difficult to emulate, but I've heard it's much better these days because 1) they got better tech to behave like the ps2 chip and 2) we have waaaay better hardware to bruteforce the emulation
Unsure about how the PS3 games fare emulation wise
i can emulate NES very reliably
PS2 games - especially Ratchet and Clank ones - are incredibly hard to emulate. A bit too tired to dive into the why, but it's gotten easier with better hardware cuz bruteforce
man i used to have the most cumbersome flight stick that was designed after an F-15 stick (at the time). it was enormous but i played TIE fighter and a game about the apache longbow helicopter that makes for a boring game because you destroy most of the enemy targets from like 26 miles away
Yeah, something like that. Story, jokes, platformer, gunplay, a bit of puzzles - it's just nice :3 good times
sounds good. i saw some gameplay of one of the most recent R&C releases and it looked great. action packed, creative platforming (there might have even been portals you jump through seamlessly into a completely different map or something)
Yeah, that's the new one
Aight, only need to run through invaded and I got all the challenges done this GE, feels good
Festive Delivery for the nade one :))
yeah i was gonna do that challenge but my collector chest piece was on another character and i didnt feel like going to get it
It was at the very least not annoying with festive + normal mode, but still meh. I use nades for stun/foam etc, not for damage
yeah theyre good for getting someone out of cover
not killing unless youre on normal
Polarity is busted with HH though, doesn't matter what polarity you're shooting, they're dead
yeah i noticed that too
i did the first challenge for today entirely in the firing range
Can't wait to try out Hollywood after the changes - then I can say my least fav is SHD Exposed (especially cuz cover bug, but also meh)
All the other ones are pretty doable tbh.
Even Guardian after the changes will be nice, as they take more damage now
what are the changes to hollywood and guardians?
Hollywood is bigger booms
Guardian you can actually do damage to the protected bastards if the angel hides in the back
oh thats awesomeee
GUARDIANS
- When killing an angel, in addition to restoring armor to full, 50% of total armor is added as bonus armor.
- Increased damage buff from 30% to 50%.
- Minions now receive 15% of incoming damage instead of being invincible.
- Damage buff duration increased from 10 to 15 seconds.
dope
HOLLYWOOD
- Tripled explosion range.
- Tripled explosion damage.
- Fixed explosion VFX.
- Explosions generate signature ammo and grenades at the player's location.
love it
Imma play Grenade Launcher and Crossbow for Hollywood with Tip of the Spear, see if I can't get some shenanigans going
yeah that should be pretty fun
Or burn down our pc's
sounds reasonable
That triple explosion range goes from monitor to pc 
ah i get it now lol
the one big downside to playing through the entire game is that you might build up a really nice collection of gear and weapons which all become trash when you get to WONY
Iโve done it once Iโll do it again, mostly out of pettiness
yeah its not that bad
This happened to me at level 30 I had a godrolled ACR-E and Urban MDR
I had whole ass builds with max rolls and everything
I did most of the level 30 recal library and was so mad when I learned there was a whole different library at level 40 ๐
I was like what do you mean I canโt roll max weapon damage I only have 0
yeah the library was annoying
I had to scrap it cause the guns and stuff only worked till level 32
sucks to be an old player it looks like
The diamondback imo has a good enough talent to last through WONY but the talent is so inconsistent with what it marks
Pestilence isnโt worth a Damn cause WONY guns do it better and faster
agonizing bite is a good talent but the gun is trash
Itโs not even that, in descent it kind of works for mmrs etc because the space is confined and there isnโt 20 drones for it to target
Also in normal gameplay enemies outside of 28 meters just donโt get targeted โฆ thatโs pretty much smg range
Itโs the way the 1886 is coded cause thereโs no damage drop off past its optimal range i#as far as Iโve seen
Man what sucks is that my ps account had all the raid guns and the bighorn along with a whack load of other god rolled exotics
I like starting games like this from 0 but maaaaaaaan
Its easy lol
Once you have your first dps build optimized you basically can do everything
Tried that and I got a virus
Thats why you got terrible luck
I went to the dark zone and stood at main entrance and made eye contact with the rogue agents killing each other for dz xp
Would love to go there and grief
I now have the wild idea of sticky bombing myself if you come near me
Canโt kill me if I kill myself ๐
Can still get to see you on the ground
Thatโs fine at least I can see the ground ๐
I can see places you canโt ๐๏ธ
There was this one dude I played dz with where we had a system
Iโd distract em cause im Garbo and out geared in pvp
He somehow John wicks em faster than super man when we broke the bonds of infinite
My technique involved confusion and hysteria as I just yelled really strange things at em
I used to do the whole call 2 extractions thing solo but itโs a waste of time as by the time you run to the next one and call it in the heli will arrive by the one you ran from. Ideally it works better with 2 people but the best way to extract is to hide and run up in the last 20 seconds
Problem is if you die your stuff doesnโt get extracted
The pulse resistance thing ruins your ability to use scanner pulse but itโs a good way of knowingโฆ if in duo 1 person can run remote pulse and drop it at the extraction site and it will tell you if someone approaches the area hopefully and when you are ready to run someone else uses scanner pulse
I guess you can do the same thing with scanner drone and remote pulse solo but the drone has a higher chance of getting spotted
Sometimes a group of rogues would almost like adopt me because I was like a radio of pure nonsense
how do you do capital building on legendary. that shit is fuckin impossible lmao. cant even get past the first little tiny bit !!!!
run to the back
It skips spawns + it's easier
hey is the vendor open rn?
cant be bothered to turn on the game and check. i feel you
oh my bad
i figured it out
great. u know there are two vendors right?
one of them is bugged apparently tho and has no inventory
danny weaver
for the first time in my 3+ yrs playing, i had trouble finding snitch the other day. it took forever. normally i only check one place and hes always there
that sucks
i logged out and back in and checked three common places at least ten times. i almost shut my pc down lol
man i miss being a bartender
it takes literally no effort to strike up a conversation with people and that makes it easy to chat up interesting customers. so many girls (and some men) just wrote their number on a napkin and slipped it to me without me asking. it was like god mode
dangerous territory tho. i dont like hurting ppls feelings and it sucks having to explain to someone that you are not prepared for a serious relationship with them
some times of day are kinda impossible
ur lookin for a "Sweaty PVP clan", read through #td2-clan-recruitment
Polarity switch is kinda fun ngl
On console, what is the highest expertise level currently?
Morning agents 
mornin 2 u
anyone have some time to help new player lvl30 here
I think I soft bricked my Capitol Building run? I'm at 'Secure South Wing' bit but after I killed everything in the room, nothing happened? If something did, I missed it and I can't find the interactable.
if you were from xbox I would be able to help you ๐
Can you send a screenshot in community?
I would but my client hard locked and I can't even access my desktop ๐คทโโ๏ธ
also this game always minimizes when I try to take a screen shot so I'll have to take it wtih my phone- as soon as I log back in of course
np, I'll wait here
did they changed the mantis headshot scope?
the red circle than stays on the enemies' head
25 is max atm
Hey Aspect long time no see
fuck me... i just deconstructed a god rolled The Mop...
I was just looting a CD drop saw that one and my brain didn't process completely that it was god rolled and decon everything
Finally i have the Ouroboros
Did you have to go to some special place and maybe have some RNG luck to get that? Like some online RPG or something? Cause that would be weird, this is not dungeons and dragons, or so most people seem to think.
Incursion paradies lostโฆ.the weekly crate at the end has a 10% of dropping it and the bosses have a chance of 1% (i think) of dropping it
Yes I know. I am just bullshitting the people that think every item should be available everywhere.
Tbh i wouldnt mind if it was made available somewhere else too cuz i dont like the incursion
Sure, but that's not how online RPGs work. If everything was easy to get from anywhere people would not play the game and Ubisoft would not get any money from fashion-players cause they would have everything in a week and quit.
Having shit teammates who dont understand how wrights boss mechanic works is a pain in the ass
I wouldn't know, I am SHD level 950 but haven't set foot in either the raids or the incursion. I don't have the Ouroboros and that's ok.
I have played many games where I don't have things cause I did not go places.
Bruh
I don't know what you mean, I don't speak rap.
wdym?
I have one "bruh" and he came out of my mom's punani.
You should just stop saying bruh or bro all the time cause that is not language.
Bruh 
No.
You just have beef with the expression "bruh". It doesn't necessarily mean "brother/sibling", it's a word that is used to express discomfort, something annoying, or related.
Not boomer language *
๐ค
anyone have some time to help new player lvl30 here
I was surprised how easy the summit is for farming a gear set i got the entire striker set just by reaching floor 17 ๐ฅณ
Countdown is much faster tho
I wanted to check summit out first and I can't judge the other farm spots till i experienced them myself ^^
Definitely try it out, but do it on challenging, heroic can be a little pain in the butt with random teammates
But not that good for starting shd watch players
I would definitely argue about that, I have seen a lot SHD 1-30s there and no one has kicked them or anything. Of course if you low shd there is always possible for higher players to kick you in that sense.
Im looking for a clan in Europesince current clan sucks
when will the countdown bug be fixed where I cannot deactivate any countermeasures at the stations. impossible to complete the corresponding commendation.. its definitely not my game. i cant even remember when i was last able to deactivate them. just now it happened again , logged out and matchmaked for new countdown, issue is still there. there isnt even a prompt to hold f at the stations
Leveling up proficiency is so boring. Alot of skills I dont like using but wants to level it up. Same goes with some exotic weapons
You don't need to use them, you can just farm and donate materials
Or have them equipped as secondary weapon or skill ajd just dont use them
Yeah, do that also. But save alot of mats using the items
They should lower to cost to upgrade things and how to earn proficiency by now. I know alot of players have played this game since start and have like 10000 shd level. But some sort of catch up system like WoW have would be nice to have
There seems to be alot of coming back people. I am one of those. Played both Division 1 and 2 when it was released but took a break from it for many years. Catch up system like WoW have is super great so you dont have to grind for years to get up to par with other people
There was around a 60% reduction in upgrade costs... primarily exotic cost reduction.
At the beginning of this season
Also expertise is not required to complete any content
No I need 25 expertise AND 1k SHD to even start the game!!
sooo...
after few months brake, i noticed few changes in the game ui. thats all fine.
But annoying bug has appeared. you load 1 in the chamber, change mag to get full mag + 1 in the chamber. nice.
but if you switch weapons, the 1 in the chamber disappears. Extremely frustrating on guns with low mag capacity like the 7 round shotties..
Has this been reported? and how to even report it?
That's because you're terrible at the game /s 
Go watch some speedrunners and pick up some tips ๐ป
I know this one you could check... soules... oh wait 
probably not a bug cus youre not supposed to have your gun loaded when its in your pocket
part of trigger discipline thing
wtf...
this was possible before. and any reference to real life... you should ALWAYS have 1 in the pipe...
i also thought its kinda annoying so, glad to be wrong
it is totally fine if i change to different gun that is not in my loadout, that it spawns in my hand with empty chamber.
but.. when switching between 2 main guns, its just idiotic that it doesnt remember the 1 in the chamber. especially since it did before. so def a bug.
It is a bug. It's a lot worse on rock n roll. Swap that and it loses 10extra from the talent.
Known issue.
Also about trigger discipline... if you carry without 1 in the chamber it's like riding in the car without seatbelt on and hoping you'll be able put it on quick in the event of a crash... but that's off topic ๐
im not american so i wouldnt know ๐
That was fairly clear 
how well versed are you with gun culture? only israelis carry in condition 3 (emtpy chamber).
Every self defense class teaches always 1 in the chamber. why?
cause statistics have shown that under stress you dont remember to load 1 in the chamber...
Read my comment. Point I was making is the same...
Ah yes real world logic for a vidaya game.
Fr
non true real life "logic" to defend a bug???
anyways. since its already pointed out that its a bug. lets leave it at that?
Nobody defended a bug... learn to read I'm thinking
my bad.
๐ป
Trust me this bug is annoying af, I had to change builds and strats because I was using RNR and sometimes couldn't reload and it was messing up runs.
same.
But yeah, well versed. 24/7 because of work and such
yeah. read your 2nd paragraf wrong.
liked the seatbelt analogy. once i read it right ๐ (def gonna steal that! ๐ )
Relaaaax man, I'm two months in and expertise 13 or 14.
Play the game. Stop crying about expertise as it's not needed to clear content. Only place it will help you is in the DZ
You have 60 minutes of game time after unlocking and then you have to uninstall/start over - like those trial games.
With 1 hour I could probably hit like 20-50 SHD, and it would probably me logging in and out to cut time lol.
I've used it a number of times when people mention it "isnt safe". Its yours now 
No I meant, once you get 1K SHD and 25 expertise, you've "unlocked" the game - then your trial period starts
I do find the "waaaa I want 25 expertise NOW" thing super funny cause they'd just switch to "waaaaa I want 1 million exo components" after they got it anyway.
Facts
So you saying a expertise level of like say 20 wouldnt help you in PvE? That would be like a 20% damage increase and a 20% armor. I guess you dont put in any attachments on your guns because that just gives you like 5% crit chance. So no point in PvE, just in DZ. Any why even bother upgrading your watch. "Only place it will help you is in the DZ"
Breh you don't understand how expertise on items works from what you just said.
So if I level up a weapon to expertise lvl 20, how much more damage do I get?
No, it is 1% per lvl
Additive to red cores
Same with armor. 1 lvl is 1% armor
LOL
1% of base armor. Not blue cores
Soul', be nice.
Shouldn't they be too?
6 items level 20 will equal less than a single blue core. Armor expertise isnt worth.
If you don't want to teach, that's fine. Just don't mock.
see how deck is doing it? Like that is the way.
Weapon expertise can be decent but if you run all red it is as souless stated
I'm just meeting mockery with mockery?
hey riven long time no see HOW U BEEN?
Nothing they've said is mocking that I can see.
I'm not telling you, I'm asking. Be nice.
@wide lotus hey
, sorry I'm terrible with names. Must've been a long time, how you been?
YEA IT WAS AWHILE AGO but i remember u SO YE XD
So I am assuming no one is leveling up their stuff because it is "pointless"
ngl im confused on this striker build xD um i put it in the ask td2 community but still dont know which one to go with xD
There's nothing pointless about Expertise, however it's far from mandatory in any situation.
We got along plenty fine in the endgame before it was added, it's fine after.
I would just say keep an eye on #td2-build-advice when there is maths being used as explanation and you'll get some insight into how the damage formula works. If everything was an amp it would be a 1:1 increase but you need to take into account the additive nature of every attribute other than amps. It all has diminishing returns
Expertise was only added what, a few years after WONY debuted?
3 years after more or less
it was added with countdown
i think
There we go, halfway between now and WONY, ish.
People definitely are. But you just need to understand it's not as huge as it seems looking at the raw % increase
most people only think benfitiing is YUP TO EXPERTISE LV 10 SI WORTH IT
I do understand that. I know it isnt a game breaking system
eveyrthing else isnt really viable imo MOST people think
The best part about Expertise is getting extra range on your Rez Hive.
and barely anyone does it.
hey riven um can u meet me in ask td2 community real quick aslong with localdeck? need some opinons
As I sit over here with mostly lvl 25 weapons 
Sure.
also yeah lol, lvl 10 Expertise is about when you start to require Exotic bits, so that tracks.
tanks
After 12 now ๐
With the recent addition of a discount of 50% to all costs, it's more worth it than ever.
You can blame the discount on my 25 Expertise Backfire.
I think it needs like 100 of a brand to get Proficient. I know that you can donate stuff. But dont anyone think that is way to much considering how many sets there is. And for weapons I think it is like 20, which seems way more reasonable
Do a Countdown run, 2-3 will get you to rank 10 in 1 set.
maybe 4 if you're very unlucky.
basically, every time you finish a set, you can afford an Exotic Cache from the CD vendor.
think of it like buying yourself a present for finishing a task.
Remember: div2 is a marathon, not a sprint.
Idk if you fully grasp the cost ๐
Obligatory cost of proficiency post... shield your eyes, text wall incoming.
The true cost of proficiency to hit expertise 25
(usage obviously lowers cost)
weapons - 4380 donated items - 65,700 shd points - 657,000 printer filament.
named/ exo - 1380 donated items - 20,700 shd - 207,000 printer filament.
brandsets - 2900 donation items - 8700 shd - 87,000 printer filament.
gear sets - 1900 donated items - 5700 shd - 57,000 printer filament.
skills/spec -no donations - 14,100 shd - 141,000 printer filament
So there is around 20 brand sets. That would mean 4000 items to donate
Yeah, thanks
Grinding wony and shd is easiest way to finish proficiency/expertise
So it was suggested yesterday I should spend these excess loot items on library but does it matter which bit core attributes, attributes talents???
and it still sucks (unless your shd lvl is very very high)
Nah, 2000+ is worth wony for expertise.
Still more shd than you can grind in 2 hrs. And you dont have to spend 2 months running around with trash builds
At shd 1000 it's more shd than you can grind in 2hrs
And I consistently carry agents through wony within the 2hr timeframe so I use that as my time measurement
yeah thats true good point
So some have very high proffieny of course. How did you get your exotics up? I am guessing using them. As donating them would take alot of time. How long would you think it would take to take it to max level? And silly thing is that even if you use it, I think. You dont get any extra points. All is about killing XP.
Would be nice that if you used the weapon it would increse the amount you get
That reminds me I gotta get upgrading it, thanks!
man.. cant wait for dat full auto exotic pistol
I think I saw someone in a video say that 
I used to donate most of my protective fabric and reciever components to stuff I wasnt using or couldn't get. I would just keep enough for my weekly projects
they should do something with the converted smg whatever its called for that. i hope so you can use it with bulwark shield or whatever
random idea to throw in the ring, next year for season rewards they should give new signature weapons that are not tied to any specializations to add variety
I guess donating stuff for exotics is the way to go
well i mostly use them
only ones i dont have are the two IH raid ones
and only weapon i cared enough to upgrade their expertise to rank 16 is bighorn because i love that danm thing
I also used to slap items into an eclipse build as well. Burning is pretty easy kill xp. Kill xp is the same on a difficulties btw ๐
You would be surprised how much xp you could gain from burning a missions starting NPCs and just resetting/repeat
div1 deja vu
(But realistically you just play, loot a shit ton of items and donate 99% of it because it's not worth keeping anyways)
was it power station hat people did that?