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thx
Does today have maintenance?
no
Thanks
Depends on how you got the bounty
So one of my skills is locked, I cannot use it or change it. Anyone knows how to fix this? Tried login out and turning off directives
Nah its just bugged
can't deploy it and I cannot change it to another skill in inventory
Try wiping
Today maintenance ?
No
Thank you ๐

I just met RNGesus... literally.
I have a quick question is using a female character give like an advantage or something in pvp or does it just make you able to see better without the bulky ness of the male character
Can't say I've ever really noticed an advantage between male or female charcters.
the gear on your character usually mitigates any differences
mhmm, I have been beaten by good cosmetic coloring before they blended in very well.
Cuz I just been seeing sooo many people using female characters so I was just wondering
Lets go ๐
i am already in game ready to engage
Need to check all the vendors also. Reset also I guess
yup, that's correct
wait what, rogue agents near spawn?
huh well that's strange I heard rogue agents detected but no rogue agents near by
bug?
it happens
Sometimes they spawn after leaving a safehouse, sometimes they don't
you should hear a specific music that gets louder when you get close to them
ohhh my gooood... I feel relieved
got lady death, rerolled 3 times and got max core atts and DTTOOC, rerolled my St Elmo's 2 times and also got DTOC... luckiest rerolls for me!
i heard music
but it finished after 2-3 minutes
if you walk away from them the music will fade and eventually stop, this means the rogue agents are gone
It's not a fool-proof system.
Sometimes the rogue music activates without them being in the game.
you can reroll gear?
With Reconfigure bps, yeah
oh i see
hello, so i just started playing dv2 a week ago, i was like level 7 before i found this thing that takes me to a new are and instantly level me up to 30 and give me items way better than what i had. but i felt like i skipped a huge part of the game.
you did, you missed the whole history of td2
i wanted to enjoy the game as authentic as it be, what was this "thing" about
oh, so i have to make a new character bow?
well, the pilot gives you a warning before you claim lvl30
if you want to see the story, yes
i didnt read it through lol damn
better be careful next time lol
okay thank you
They changed the location of the balloons opening the secret room in air and space, someone know the third??
Found it, its on top of a rocket in the same room were the secret room is.
@full zinc Just saw DUA was the weekly legendary mission and I went "Oh, nice, that's DUAble"....
More like DUOAble
I'll allow it 
it's not even heroic iirc im only playing on challenging and the only time i see there's a check point is during the point where you almost confront the main boss
@hollow acorn have fun and plz take your time, the game is great if you start from scratch.
My bad ๐
i havent really played 2 since launch is the WONY dlc really the only expansion 2 has gotten?
is it possible to optimize an attribute to max provided I have the resources or are there limits to how much I can optimize?
You can optimize until you reach the value that's stored in your recalibration library
agent johnson literally just one shot me ๐
Sigh.... LMG tinker page doesn't work for me ;-/
All other pages work but i click LMG and the page is dead nothing there
only the division could take the longest to make a mobile game lol
Do you perchance have an LMG equipped in your primary and secondary slot?
Yep
WONY and then slowly been fed lore since then via manhunts. New story DLC slated for 2025
thanks!
Issa bug, either directly tinker on the weapon itself or have two weapon types equipped
ah free content got
Cheers man didn't know that was a bug ๐
Yeah it's a weird one, reported it yesterday among a few others, hoping to see it in the trello soon
Cool ๐
It was announced July 5th, 2022 and is slated for a release this year (can still hit their Q1 2024 goal). It's not flappy bird, it's a full fledged game akin to division 1.
Hrm I think i like this new build I made lol xD "Ninjabike 90% skill repair 44% crit chance 70% crit damage (Spotter) 55% LMG Damage 14% armor damage (3red 3Blue 2 yellow) so got 4 skill tiers and still* hitting 600k on HS and 400k body (Weapon damage is 159k too)
Impressive ๐
Is the "manhunt" supposed to end at 47%?
Person with 1.8 mill armor build
My all red glass cannon dps build: I'm about to end this guy's whole career
Ubisoft services are offline or only i have problem?
game crashed (malloc error) restarted ubisoft connect and bang, not working...
Division 2 is probably still running in task manager
I turned off the division 2 app in task manager
for sure and rn i restarted PC - still nothing
Maybe try exiting ubisoft connect from bottom bottom right of taskbar
Still nothing, later i gonna try to reset/remove all ubiosft files from appdata folder
Akin to this ?
Because then my recommendation is: #td2-general-chat message
Is second Ubisoft service problem,and recovery back i too have this classic Ubisoft...not make with this nothing.xd
"Target is near you" - interpretation = target is on same planet as you.
Div 2 is online for at least last 50 minutes.
I was wondering if we can craft special ammo ?
Nope
Only (Ongoing directive set, Iron Lung St elmo, Picking up Special ammo boxes and killing mobs with special ammo packs)
lmao BoO vendor is selling a mod: "Offensive Protocol: Critical" that boosts headshot damage. Hopefully the upcoming QOL update brings a completely new naming system for all mods so dupes don't happen and things actually function for what they're referred to as
Oh ok thank you
that already happened, and is the reason why both gear and skill mods can have very non-indicative names
I was wondering if higher end gear drops with a lot of headshot perks and stuff because ? all I am picking up is constantly about headshot damage ๐
Well you can use Scorpio whose talent is akin to special ammo
iron lung doesnt have special ammo despite the fire effect, so you can stack fire and OD with it
I have no clue what that is
Bruh it is one of the most broken weapons in the game
Not that hard to get it either
I am still very new to the game and I have no clue about the endgame gear or if the game has something close to exotics
Okk yeah it is one of the the exotics
Yeah, true, that's a weapon effect and not "special ammo". Akin to Bluescreen.
Ouro "has" special ammo - just gotta get hit by it first 
ah yeah fire enough
I still don't get why they only have a certain amount of boosted exp during an event :P.. "oh wait yes i do this is Ubisoft.... they would rather sell you an exp boost.." Which am glad there isn't that option in division 2 ๐
Would be so handy a week of boosted exp for new players to get some well deserved SHD lvls if they can stick it out that long ^^
I am kinda confused how a break for an hour reverts all my taken control points back to the enemies -_-
The enemy is active in-game and assault control points like you do, when you're afk.
Would this be the point i should look into actually liberating the regions?
You're telling me you didn't complete any liberation projects throughout your story playthrough?
uhm yes ? ๐
Because i did not realise they were that important ๐
Were you level 30 and then you started to story? because if so, no. There's a warning that pops up to tell you that.
no
I started as level 1 and there was a helicopter. And by mistkae I went to NYC
but it then boosted me to lvl 30
make a new character then
it says when I finish the campaign I can go back tho
lmao, that's incredible, I did those just for loot when I first played through. Do them now, not sure you'll get to keep the projects post WONY
Yeah, but if you want to play through the DC campaign (I'm assuming you haven't) you need to do so on a new character - the boost completes the base campaign
They all auto complete if you boost iirc
Ok thank you ๐
Besides loot do they help keeping the regions occupied?
In the story mode, I think so - but once you get to end-game, it's an on-going battle and you're gonna be clearing and resetting control points more than you can even imagine now.
There's no "liberation" outside of the story.
conflict is quite an experience. would def recommend visiting that part of the manning zoo
I understood that 
ok thank you ๐
has anyone else been unable to access Roy's vendor page?
Also how cool do the Black Tusk units look ? ๐ Especially their heavies
Go 5 steps to the right and "talk" to him. Then you can access it
Quite
oh weird
As is the division 2 experience oftentimes 
Well, often it is awesome. ๐ But sometimes very weird ๐
Really hoping i can get some of their cosmetics after the invasion missions ๐
hints You can get some in the endgame, but I won't spoil more
Oh nice ๐ฎ
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where do i donate stuff to the settlements?
Like for the SHD Requisition Project? Via the projects menu, there's an icon at the bottom of the screen.
so anyone else notice that there is a stronghold showing on the black tusk invasion map for NY? it was south of the settlement and between battery park and financial district
No for regular settlement donations or is that the same thing? ๐
This might be an early game thing that I haven't done in years, try the Projects screen though.
Hey Rivens, Gogamer
Hi saph
thanks Rivens I found it ๐
Woo!
hey saph 
Only 6 projects to go ๐ฅณ
Taking a break today , I spend a big part of my day off playing Div 2 xD
I was wondering is there like a transmog system in game?
For your actual gear besides the apparel
Actually one was added, yes.
Basically, any wearable gear you have (except for Exotics) , so like Holsters, Chest, Backpack, etc. Can have its appearance change into any other via the "mod" menu.
To unlock the transmog, you just need to pick up that gear once.
Yea d2 has completely free and really good transmog, unlike another d2
Diablo 2? Yeah that one sucked.
Make that 2 d2s
100th floor on summit seems kind of hard solo. Will try to get some matchmaking
There is also a game from the dreamcast called "d2", but that joke is way too niche to actually make lol.
If you can't matchmake/ find a group down in #lfg-playstation, try "call for backup" (then recall each time someone joins) ingame via the Social Menu.
Up to 100 I had no problem. Just melted everything. But once I hit last floor. Very hard with the two hunter that spawns
Fun fact: it didn't use to scale to your group size. It would always spawn a lot.
So right now if you had 3 people, 4 Hunters would be there.
Oh nice ! I did not know it was so robust ๐
When you complete projects Level 1-WT5 you have to talk to the project vendor to actually claim the reward
Same goes for Rogue Agents when they spawn in.
group size+1.
Honestly just use scorpio
You'll melt through em
hey don't ruin the magic of a first time Flr 100 completion.
That was how I completed my one lmao
Got the scorpio from a summit 30 floor reward so it was fair game
granted my own first time was on launch week and was a bit.....scuffed. But still.
Well, launch summit was a lot harder
Considering the scaling system
Well according to the recent Livestream, all content with White Tusk is custom due to how they work, so it likely is.
To an extent probably
Then again summit really is just like 50 or more rooms but procederally generated
So its not that bad
It follows the WF method for sure, where there's specific blocks chained together, but whats in each block can be altered.
I am going to be happy when I have everything cleared with the current invasion and the side content
the story is really good I am kinda surprised about it
You still in the washington campaign?
Yeah same lol
Then again I did beat division 2s story before division 1
endgame story is great, pure political intrigue mixed with just the right amount of jason bourne.
I am still curious about this one agent's quest I have on the map and I am scared i will fuck something up on my map doing it xD
Edwards?
Agent Edwards Support just activates the overworld hunters
I did it at level 40 but it doesn't make a difference
Yes Edwards
No clue what they are but it sounds I can just do that after I am finished the Black Tusk invasion and before I head into NY
I have no clue what they are but I want to go into that content blind and see what it gives ๐
They sound omnious and I love it ๐
Yeah best to run that mission alone in a silent house with the lights down and the volume up
Sounds like a fun mission to run on Halloween xD
You know what isn't fun?... turning division off and being spammed to play Skull and bones everytime....
We know that the new apparel rogue is Vivian Conley
No one wants to play your AAAA game ubisoft! ๐ get over it
But I decided to waiting until the two next weeks for Kajika or Keener
Mannnnnnnnnn agent johnson is NOT a good fight for solo player
its not too bad but it's probably worse on heroic
I did it on chal after hearing everyone complain about how hard it was
Honestly it looks worse than an indie game
listen, no one would be complaing if they didnt hype it up that much, but unfortunately they did, so thats on them
skull and bones motivated me to play black flag for the first time
Damn, did a mistake and wasted my nice SMG ๐ฆ
No more trying to level up expertise. That is for sure
if youre accidently deleting items you should consider marking items you want to keep as favorite.
Yeah, good point ๐
I guess I will get a dark winter again
But really liked that SMG
By the way, how to you set items as favorite? Or mark them so you cant delete or use them for materials
Go to your inventory, go to an item and look at the text at the bottom regarding buttons
I'm not sure the ps button but it should have a tooltip
You youngins type too fast for my old boomer hands 
@swift temple r2 and Favorit
That's okay, you're great at something I'm not. Surely
OK. Thanks
Hi.
Hey 
Fucking hell, I was doing Liberty Island to get some refresher on what Keener actually says, and in the room where he and ANNA starts messing with you, as I jump down, I get "Rogue Agents detected" from ISAC, and two rogue agents runs into the room. I legit couldn't remember if it was part of the fuckery from Keener or if I was being assaulted till I saw them 
Noooooo, and you actually skip the ANNA messing with you stuff
happened to me too the other day in a mission from weekly project, in the boss room had rogues, after defeated them the boss appeared like usual
it was a first for me also ๐
You should get your neck looked at.
what would be hte ideal rolls for pestilence?
With Exotic weapons, you can only change the 3rd attribute, the first 2 are always the same for that gun type.
for almost all guns, you want "dtooc" (damage to target out of cover) as your 3rd.
oh okay got it thanks!
in LMG's case though, since it already comes with DTOOC, chance or fire-rate would be best.
Nah
I really need sleep.
The pesti is already a chug along weapon RPM wise
i got magazine size as my 3rd roll so probably not the best
its fine for now, pesti really isn't worth re-rolling for.
oh i see
Iron lung of win
It's best not to waste Exotic components if you can, they're quite useful elsewhere.
The bulletking is pretty darn good for pve right now ๐
Especially with mag size as third attribute
o-O
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Aww you lost the elmo name.
rip 10$ a month nitro
You can change your name in the server without the money spent.
no embed perms
stupid server
ikr
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I would just do it for you, but you know how the paperwork is.
can't even pin messages freely so I can only imagine
do we actually get skins for our signature weapons? besides the ones in the store
not for free lmfao
If it helps, you're almost certainly not going to be using them that much.
and you can hide them on your char.
Hey, I'm out of the loop a little, but is everyone else at 47% in the manhunt?
i am
You were 23% before today as well?
i think so
I thought the devs fix the skills where high skill tiers donโt get disrupted my low skill tier jammers (under 3 skill tier)
Maybe a dumb question but what is technician in a nuttshell?
compared to demolitionist?
more skill focused
Itโs implying skills oriented
I see
I was wondering if the DZ is the PvP area or is that PVE ?
dz is PVPVE
it has NPC's and people
Just do the raids man there really isn't any exotics in the DZ other then the Eagle bearer and ravenous and Big horn which can be obtain much more easy in Dark hours / Iron horse and / summit legendery
Dz raid exotics have like a 0.01% droprate in the DZ
oh damn yeah I will avoid that then xD
I don't like PvP in these kind of games
I went for a look in the DZ wish i hadn't :D.. got killed by someone that then shouted EZZZZZZZ on the floor you noob go back to pve ! was like yeah good idea! ๐
Yeah no i don't like that kind of attitude at all
Was quite funny to be fair
Hey 7nvd, Kettle, Odder
Man its gonna be really sad if everyone gets a bugged manhunt
i hope that with i read steam right and that i can participate in the hunt for the april target
Hi, new player here. Does the 2x xp event apply to all activities? Or only in the Two Bridges area?
All activities for a max of some levels, don't remember how many exactly
Thanks!
15 levels i think
Yeah think it was 15 or so
As in, the boost only applies for the first 15 levels you gain this week?
Yeah
correct
Either 2 weeks go by or you get 15 levels
Would probably be a little too generous if it was at all times during this week for a arbitrary amount of levels
You level up stupidly fast actually so people use that in a day or two
Can big horn drop in any room at any time in legendary summit?
Bosses only
So named oneโs only? Iโm tired just want clarification ๐
Yeah named
But not the floors that aren't boos floors, so basically farm floor 10,20,30 and so on
The named bosses at the end of each 10 floors can drop the bighorn I had mine drop from DUA lego tho, I have farmed summit alot and never seen one drop but am sure loads have
Two Bridges Manhunt ends with "That hostile had a note from Kelso" ok... what does it say? is there followup to this at all or thats it
nevermind its readable under comms
It looks like the weekly descent project is still broken
anyone had problem with the game being low color its like black and white colors ?
I thought the devs fix the skills where high skill tiers donโt get disrupted by other players whose skill tier jammers is under 3 skill tier
Does the order you hit the strongholds matter with Black Tusk invasion?
No
is this descent thing useful?
Completely your choice lol
i am still newish. just rescued the president
ooh. i cant do these classified missions
Anyone got trouble playing "The Tombs" @ Search infirmary? How to solve?
I'd just fast travel back to the mission
Need year one season pass
Did you happen to get rogues
Yeah I looked it up :p Its been a bug for a long time I see ๐
Yeah it's happened to me more than once it's Hella annoying haha
stupid bounty lol
anyone else get delta error and cant get back in?
oof
Yup
Question how rare is it to get a st elmos from and basic enemy in a level 30s world who dont have the dlc?
surprised it can drop without the DLC
Iv been farming that gun so much i was not expecting it to drop from a random mob i didn't even kill the guy my friend did
And and a bluescreen dropped and a mantis i guess hes just lucky to be around lol
ooh. whats the level cap for this game
30 without DLC, 40 with DLC
Nope my friend had the same problem. If u dont have the dlc u cant use level 40gear
Anyone have invite to the isac 2.0 discord?
ANNA? 
???
ISAC 2.0 must be ANNA
are you in the discord??
this sucks. he gave me a full set up and i cant use
so does this mean i beat the game then? what else is there to do
If u get the dlc u will be able to use it. I mean yeah kinda when u get into world tier5 there just farming left in my opinion. I strongly recommend getting the dlc it will be worth it
whats world tier?
After u beat the invaded stuff
Its a change of difficulty new enemy's spawn new missions well not new just reworked
oh. hmm
But the dlc is recommended because it offers a lot of more content
i think i need to find a friend then to play with. i been just running around a lot
im already maxed and i wanna get more damage numbers
time to find fiends
Im sure theres pc peaple here would play with u. I would if u were on playstation
isnt it cross play??
does all the end game content give equal level gear or is it like wow where once something new comes out the old thing is irrelevant
no crossplay
this is hard to figure out. i guess i just follow the story?
i miss the voice chats in this server
once you hit 40 its all the same. difficulty will determine what the floor is for lowest possible attribute roll.
there is a separate expertise system that facilitates power creep. so any new gear wont jack up the player level. itll just add a level to expertise.
whyd they get rid of them?
oh sweet i was worried id have FOMO
nope youre good. ๐
no clue.
legal team decision afaik
ah
would you like to play ?
oh i just started WONY
oh ok
yea i just wanted to know if id miss out on content
pretty sure if i did a level 40 mission id be drug by my hair lol
Grand Washington Hotel is invaded this week
Perfect week to start the Nemesis project.
After you get the tidal basin piece , change mode for manning zoo to invaded and complete again. with 2 pieces in hand set GWH back to invaded and the blueprint will drop. Nemesis can be farmed from MMR TL after that regardless of project completion.
i know what a few of those words mean
Which part are you confused by?
is the ISAC 2.0 discord still up/active? anybody have an invite?
Man whoever made up those spawn points for that last manhunt bounty needs to do a little self-reflection
oh i was mostly joking around im assuming its the process for farming good boss loot
Nope! It's actually the method to get the blueprint+eventually the entire Nemesis Exotic MMR (sniper rifle)
tl;dr for it is go to Tidal Basin on not story mode, find the key upstairs in the bunk area, then way later (just before you go to the final boss area), there's a door on your left inside. Open it, take the MMR from the crate, decon it.
that'll get you the first part for it.
then follow the rest of deck's instructions.
and i should do this at my level (32) or wait until im 40?
You cant do that yet. As soon as you enter WONY, you physically cannot leave until you finish the entire story of WONY
ah ok
For now, just finish the story. Run through it then go farm a build. Any time spent farming under level 40 and after level 30 is wasted, essentially, as you will quickly outpace it.
It would be a good idea to do it this week if you finish WONY in time though, as the blueprint mission can take a long time to spawn again.
So when you reach lvl40, I'll leave you where the parts are, The Tally tells you which named bosses you need to kill to get the other parts.
Tidal Basin - The Tally (as Rivens said)
The other parts are obtained when Roosevelt, Capitol Building, District U. Arena and The Washington Hotel when invaded, for the blueprint.
Anyone else finding the manhunt bounties to be beyond confusing? Waypoints telling me one thing, showing another and so on.
Waypoints have been screwy in div2 since 2019, it just seems to hit different people at different times, and some are luckier than others.
Honestly considering my usual abysmal luck with them, this one has been remarkably workable.
Crazy, because that is the opposite of my current experience. lol. I am so confused that I have had to end the bounty and restart it. NY bounties are a strange animal with the 8 different places you have to be at for each phase. ๐
I noticed with the last one that you need to do a bit of detective work to figure out if/when you need to go into a building or underground to get to the waypoint location.
My last one was just the big burny building from the Conley Manhunt.
that and 2 places outside that led straight to it.
(I honestly think that half the issue with NYC bounties is that almost no one does them, which is also why I feel kinda vindicated for having done so many of them lol)
no one plays descent ?
You may have to wait more than 2 minutes to find someone to play it with you.
Totally depends on talent rotation 
ah
well i guess i managed to find something thats even deader than d1 survival
please tell me they brought it back though
ill just add that invaded manning zoo gives a random part youre missing
There's no way I just missed two opportunities to re-run for the last part i need...
wait, no, I didn't
"This is fucked!" says the named Blacktusk rifleman as he runs directly at me in the open as I mag dump a Vector into his head killing him nearly instantly
i wish one of the skills we get is a tactical scooter or something NY seems bigger than in the div 1
what is your max completion % of manhunt rn mine is 47%
i figured it out, took me two relogs and going across the map though
the target area is SOO big that almost anywhere in south-western half of Two Bridges will immediately take down your map marker and put you inside the "target area" leaving you to figure out where the bounty "water side" starts
The bounty system needs an overhaul
Cant rely on the minimap either, any grey area you'd assume to be the spot but no
Very likely a visual glitch just like last season.
MSV will acknowledge it eventually if it's a real problem.
okay
Hey what is the fastest SHD farm spot ?
Close for level 400 but feels like ages to come to the 1000
public execution with all directive heroic
memento or ninja bike backpack for a hunter fury build
momento
Agree
everytime i try matchmaking for countdown it dcs me, whats up with that?
nvm its working now
yeah 47% for me as well, but isnt that normal considering Kelso herself is the final target?
and holy hell, how much loot is in this building now?
about 3x than i remember there being
so now that they took out the Stats page and put "Tinkering" in place of it, is there anyway to see your gear stats anymore?
Stats is still there
Open your inventory and tab over.
I honestly didn't even remember there was a key for it.
ahhhh, okay thats where they put it
Is there even a palisade backpack or have I been extremely unlucky with targeted loot
i just got a notification I levelled up the Petrov Defense Group? what does that mean? ๐
Proficiency
Basically gear set xp
When it becomes proficient it can be upgraded via the expertise system
Gear isn't really worth the resources to expertise tho
i can get better at wearing it or the perks work better on them ?
agree, but in order to level up expertise you have to consume resources in proficiency progress
Proficiency explained is you level up a gear until you hit a threshold that will allow you to upgrade/enhance it
Expertise levels on gear is pretty awful cause its just 1% armour per level
1% applied to base armor, at level 25 you barely gain one armor core per total, assuming you have all 6 pieces leveled up to 25
oh i see thanks for explaining
does wonders to DMG though, im ripping people apart with my St. Elmos , just at Exp 10 but when Strikers stacks to 100, + Memento stacks to its max, then i start hitting people with Obliterate .........Oh my
how do I get the corgi backpack skin?
It has always been there - they just took away a shortcut to get there.
Was part of an apparel event not too long ago. It'll be premium cred exclusive for awhile then be up for textiles a good bit later.
Remember SHD 1000 is nice to have, not need to have.
does any know how to insta destroyer hive skil for overcharge ?
using BTSU Data gloves
not what i ask for
i was ask if any know how to quick destroyer the skill you have deploy as there is way todo so
you hold the deploy key?
like if your hive is Q and you have it on the floor then hold Q?
or something else
I mean it's pretty fast but not instant
There isn't
no there is ill show you a vid after my raid
I know but itโs just better
sure thing cus
Define better.
Power hierarchy: #ask-td2-community message
I've been where you've been: #td2-general-chat message
hi how launch traque please ?
You can almost instantly OC yourself with Acostas
But there is no instant hive destroy
I don't think I've ever heard people complain it's not fast enough
Most of the time if youโre looking to OC you are already destroying your hive leading up to the moment anyway
To play with mods change crit change to crit dmg and stuff
10% CHC and 20% CHD isn't gonna make a break a build.
maybe endgame is different but are smgs kinda worthless compared to shotguns?
is LZ supposed to mean for non-invaded dark zones?
No they're very good
also is it possible to get Foxes Knees and Contractors Gloves from Named Item Cache and/or Countdown?
Maybe my playstyle doesn't agree with them rn I really like a rifle/shotgun combo
Yes
ya
Rifles as a whole aren't very good in the current meta
Shotguns are popular though
how much is the vivian conley outfit
Light Zone - anything that isn't the Dark Zone
Get Keener Outfit -> Get Eclipse Protocol build -> Profit? -> Become mad man
How come no good blueprints or the platform in general
True keener cosplay
now that u mention those i kinda want those now too
cant decide if i should get conley or wait for the others..........
DPS is all about stacks really which rifles can't really keep up with
ah, thank you guys!
High end meta had rifles but no longer meta
Oh is that why smgs are good end game
That and generally they don't handle well
They're fast and come with innate crit chance
btw is the next part of the manhunt now out
Yes
ok ty
Also ouroboros
If we collect all the breadcrumbs, can we then make it back into a bread?
bruh finally gonna get a new pc soon
finally will be able to run this game at a stable frame rate 
Would have to be a hell of a bread construction job
Eh, I hit 1K SHD, I guess I have the time.
Otherwise, just gotta find Keener - I'm sure the rest of the breadcrumbs are in his magnificent beard

are servers down?
Yeah, maintenance on your profile
(I just logged in so)
guys! I just saw, we cant change resolution in game now???
its gray for me in settins
Will the blueprint only drop when you have at least two pieces?
There is an order to the pieces dropping
Blueprint is given once you have every piece
how is it that I got the blueprint before the bolt then
LOL yeah he needs Roosevelt to be invaded
Been a while since I crafted the nemesis
If you're running Windowed (Fullscreen) the resolution is whatever resolution your monitor is
It will always take a few invaded cycles
Im over here still in need of the chatterbox lmao
Got like no hyena bounties, but like 20 tusk ones
Snitch by basin moment truly
Yes
1st piece from tidal basin, 2nd from whatever other stronghold is invaded and boom instant blueprint this week
Adrestia being unconfigurable is a crime
Then again, its the only named item in the game without a perfected talent or perfected attribute
Yes. Tidal, reinvade manning, then reinvade gwh.
The blueprint sometimes takes 7 weeks to be available again to totally worth going through the process
My hunch is that it's because it's classified as an exotic in the backend. You can still optimize it, right?
No
The gun itself is a special case
But would explain the lack of recal
Can't even press m on it to open tinker table?
So, what does having no bounties have to do with needing the Chatterbox? Cause you need keys?
I'm in the camp that adrestia is not able to be recal to encourage you to deconstruct...
yeah, thanks man, you saved me. I dont know why game starts with windowed mode some bug as always. Your idea helped ๐
i almost want to run through tb to check adrestia for myself, but I'm not in the mood for tb lmao
Windowed (Fullscreen) is BiS anyways, easy alt tab ๐
Keys indeed
Ive gotten 2 of the 3 pieces, just need the component from downtown west
Countdown solves all my key needs tbh
Thereโs a key run I used to do in the lower west area, directly south of that safe house in the underground. Got 8 keys per run.
But, you could probably just do some public executions to rack up some bounties.
Hunters just gives tons of keys, so I'm usually never in need of keys
Premium pass gives a whole bunch too iirc
Could technically make one daily for an ez component.
Keys never an issue if you just do stuff 
I've been stacked for a long while cuz I've never had shit to spend them on
Same
I didnโt even know Hunters dropped keys. The ones in Countdown?
Aren't the apparel event keys meant to not be obtained this week?
it's buy-only week
the key earning weeks are over
I'm quite certain they drop random keys in there, otherwise it's "just" from the named enemies. I don't run countdown that often, but still quite maxed out on keys
Lol somehow i got the remaining 2 keys today
Finally cleared the last stonghold and i unlocked WT 5 and i can get targetted loot , taking a break for a day or two xD
This game is so broken when its raining when you do CP4 heroic with hotshot build to fast enemies don't respawnin but still need to wait for npc
Give us the options to disable the weather tho lol
Like directive settings
That'd take all the fun out of dynamic weather
Yess i know
But this the 4 time i didn't got xp from CP4 because can't find enemies
Idk is it because you are to fast with hotshot build lol
You sure you're looking for them properly?
Sinkhole, is that an NYC CP?
no, close to capital
Washington
they always get stalled outside fence. equip a pulse and go look around if you cant find
Or that CP? In the middle of a train station right? Or is it the one close to that?
Like rogue agents
Because if it's the train station one, that's just a buggy ass CP, nothing to do with hotshot.
Its where that Castle settlement is
when that happens they are usually with one of the surrounding activities. just clear the stuff around then youll get the xp
Yeah i will do that
sinkhole is between solar farm and metro station ruins @random quest
This is why I always run Scanner Pulse.
I have incredibly bad luck in the LZ.
Just yesterday I had a Riker in NYC run almost 200m away from the activity.
Ah. Only one I consistently have issues with is the metro ruins. Don't know how many times I've had either enemies or the friendlies stuck inside the wall, refusing to die. Or because they had an engagement, they try to pathfind to the control point but can't because they're stuck right above.
alot of times i see them fighting reinforcements upstairs at metro
Yeah that happened in Sinkhole to they run away to far lol when
NYC spawn doors are so bad compared to DC. Had the same in NYC, the npc's just stood at the spawn door like they forgot they had to assault the control point 
I just consequently skip metro tbh
Nothing to do with spawn doors, this was enemies that were in a 3-way battle with cleaners/rikers/bt.
there is usually some sort of activity south of sinkhole but very close... probably where they be running too
It does things to their pathing.
It's very much not a new thing either. But it's just a quirk of div2, ya get used to it.
Yeah i saw that now
Also that, but some of the spawn doors in NYC are legit so far away it doesn't take much to derender them causing them to just idle 
It is what it is. We only in NYC for story anyways
I prefer farming in there to DC.
It does mean I've got a heavy advantage for these Bounties, since I actually know where the locations are.

i go wherever. mm doesnt leave a lot of choice ๐
but wherever i end up, ill have a build for it
agents rolling up to my backup call with foundry bulwark:
Btw anyone noticed the bug in cover animations?
What's this "playing with others" you speak of?
Well NPCs are technically AI ? So you play with your kind 
I'm gonna make the backfire build from the sheet solely for backup calls
What is the max gear level?
Once you start the DLC, gearscore goes bye-bye forever.
you should make that backfire build rudo', it's a good build.
Ninjabike backfire
Yeah, was a bit of chatter about it in #unofficial-troubleshooting
Still there? Only noticed it once SHD Exposed started
Oh you mean the thing where you kinda glitch out and then go into cover a second later? still happening.
wh-
or sometimes don't go into cover at all.
Defo considering, especially with SHD 1000, easier to hit the threshold
Yeah
my own version is more tailored to me, but I've personally tested it out and it works great in Heroic.
It destroyed my solo challenging cd run
I was wondering is it possible to extract perks from gear?
You can't extract the "named" part of named gear, if that's what you're asking.
e.g. you can't take the +1 skill tier from the kard, or the dtooc from Fox's Knees.
New CD mechanic firing emp sticky hunters hits so hard you get a delta-03 
Can someone explain this. My GR9 had 115.0k weapon damage. Then I add +10.0% (11,5k) but I end up with 119.8k (+4.8k) weapon damage. Not even 5% (6.75k). What am I missing?
its adding off your base weapon damage
It's 10% on the base weapon damage, not your current
Yeah, I just saw that. I compared with an untouched one. Now I see that. Thank you for explaining ๐
And base damage is 47.9k so 10% makes 4.79k (4.8k) Makes perfect sense now ๐
hence why people recommend ceska and grupo over fenris
although I'd imagine fenris works better when you have a bunch of blues
Ah ok. And here I out a walker chest piece on instead of Ceska ๐
Yep that is exactly right, which seems weird but 
LVL1000 watch fully upgraded, what happens next?
You can uninstall now

oh ๐ฆ
@hybrid ore yes that is what i am asking , i have a skill on my chest piece that makes the grenades radious bigger, letting me hold them longer before throwing and giving me bonus armour before throwing them
All further shd levels you get will now give you scavenger points, which you can convert to materials or cash, which can be very useful in optimizing and raising exp
Thanks for the info! ๐
Stupid cover bug lol. goes in cover
agent: refuses
Sniper Warhound: "It's your time to die now"
Good players roll the sniper shot
Doesn't matter when the game bugs out so you agent just stands in the open after pressing the cover button
๐ ๐ accidentally killed someone in the dz with an outcast elite rusher without going rogue
Outcast rusher moment 
After iv finished farming is 106 specialization points good from just a few hours of farming or could iv gotten more??
It doesnt matter as long as you farm at your own pace
Oh yeah also is bluescreen good?
eh i dont use it
Yeah i haven't seen any1 using it at all iv looked at builds i think its more of a support type weapon and build
Well you can try it with negotiator. I've heard its actually pretty good.
Ok cool ill give it a go thx
These NY bounties been suckin lately
Gotta travel all across the area the bounty is killin the rikers only to be shot thru the wall by the nailgun riker tank
2019 age stuff man love to see it
BluescreenDilemma in the sheets is nice, DPS/Support, don't personally like it in solo play but very nice in countdown
Sweet i have been looking for a more group type weapon thx ill see wat i can throw together after my 1shit build
I finally done IH
It has broken my soul.
Will the devs fix the mender seeker ball to not automatically go to a teammate?
If thatโs the case fixer drone & shield drone should do the same functionality
It's not broken. That's just how it functions.

Could switch to fixer if you want to be selfish with the heals tho ๐
Or heal chem
just redownloaded the game after a very long hiatus, dont seem to be able to equip my loadouts anyone have any idea whats wrong? i have all the pieces in my inventory and can individually switch them
but just not able to equip the whole thing
Are you in the shooting range?
You're in combat in there and cannot swap loadouts
oh... silly me
i dont think ive actively played since probably 2020 or before any tldr on updates since then?
so apparently you can make a tank blow himself up with his own genades
Recal, opti, and expertise/donations can be done from your inventory as long as youโre out of combat
Some guns got buffed, some guns got nerfed
If you donโt have a strikers build, make one as its the easiest dps build to make with an obliterate chestpiece (either ceska or grupo) with coyoteโs
Uuuuhhhm @opal radish @small spear what's that copy pasta we made again for build advice? haha
@hasty solstice fuck, that's a tough one. so much stuff has happened I feel like. Look in #td2-build-advice pinned, there's a spreadsheet, read the FAQ, pick a build (Striker's is always the goto recommendation because it's easy to make) and then learn from there, remember to read tutorial prompts in-game (they explain stuff pretty well).
Otherwise, ask away either here or in #ask-td2-community
ah
yeah ive got all my builds from back then but im clueless to what im doing now
i was a pretty advanced player back then. used to speedrun and whatnot every now and then
Your build is amazing. Just needs to stop using Merciless, Sacrum Imperium, NinjaBike backpack, 2p Heartbreaker, 2p Cavalier, Aces & Eights, 3p Lengmo, stop using Armor Regen and Health attributes, Walker & Harris outside of Chainkiller, or just use Striker with Ceska Vyroba chestpiece with Obliterate and St. Elmo's Engine. Next, your gameplay is perfect, you just need to work on not reviving your teammates in the open, not dropping decoy right on top of teammates, not bringing hackable skills to Countdown, cover-to-cover, dodge rolling, melee baiting, and learning how to solo legendary & incursion. I hope these simple tips help.
main high-skill high-speed build these days is headhunter's fury with regulus
That's fantastic, you're brilliant
war is over when the ouroboros finally drops after 4 weeks of tries
Hello i have a 2 questions 1 why wont it let me upgrade my expertise on a gun higher than 2. Second question dose any1 know if a really good non exotic lmg perhaps?
I realised that you can't expertise upgrade the Sweet Dreams Shotgun for some reason
I mean I never use it but I still upgrade all exotics that I don't use often to lvl 12 before exotic compontents
Depends on your overall expertise that you have
And for the LMG...I would say a MG5
GR9 w/ steady handed or the named RPK 'New Reliable'.
Can anyone say do i find raven in national zoo story or stronghold misson ??
Challenging solo is challenging
And 1000 is the recommended level for doing pvp stuff?
Random question, When does Danny Weaver's stock actually reset? I bought the stuff last week and he's still empty
I will second the GR9. If you slap the stability mods on it the thing is like just spraying a laser for 200 rounds
saving this to my note 
So my last project is to to activities in the South West for their pump but I have no clue where that is , is that where the settlement itself is or where?
Hey folks, is it better to farm high # directives heroic summit and just clear floors or to repeat floor 10 (or an increment) on legendary without directives? trying to farm exotics
Goto map, hover over districts the district name will be in one of the upper corners.
Fuck sakes i forgot there was a part underneath the capitol x3 thanks
It's a method, especially if you are looking for something specific.
If you're just farming exotics to break and use for upgrades, then countdown will give a cache ever 2 runs plus whatever drops in from target loot
It's more for the fastest way to get targeted loot/exotics
Summit since itll be a higher drop rate from target loot. Countdown is a lot but it's all random from caches
Gotcha gotcha - yeah I was having horrible luck with Caches
Returned to the game so I want to round out specific exotics I missed
With summit though, is it better to just run through it? Or farm a boss on legendary?
Boss farming
Pretty sure you can, it's listed under Lullaby I believe.
Oh yeah I totally forgot that's like the same gun haha
I just never bought the Deluxe Edition back in 2019 so I totally forgot about that being the same one
Best way to get St. Elmoโs on countdown right?
Is there any fix for how to complete for technician misson to destroy raven ammo pouches i done it few times it dosent count at all
Or farm targeted loot Assault Rifles when it is on the map
Or Countdown yeah
I mostly gotten mines from just doing Open World Targeted loot Assault Rifles
Bet thank you
Np ^^
Is NY not playable right now? I've gotten six Delta-03 errors all in a row within 5 minutes of trying to get the current week done on the manhunt.
I've even completely closed the game out and restarted it and still the same thing.
Try a complete reboot of your xbox
If that doesnt work, verify game files (if that's a thing on console)
If that doesn't work, try a router reboot.
After that I'm a bit out of ideas
Yeah, I might do that. I load into the safehouse near Two Bridges and then jump down to the street and start running. Make it about a block from the safehouse and everything freezes then I get the Delta-03
im bored
ok
No we will not ask you
Yo I just got Ouroboros SMG, what is the best 3rd trait ?
I got Damage to armor, maxed.
Should I recalibrate?
daamge to enemies out of cover
thanks
what
What difficulty
Hi Bored 
I just noticed something with the St Elmo's
its obviously a AR Platform Rifle design, and its left handed. The Ejection Port is on the left, meaning its a left handed Rifle for left handed shooters.
The casings are ejecting from the right side
oh, what? YAY, Snitch Cards done! finally ( thought i had them done already lol )
How do i get the all Black dye
It feels so strange when you meet players from TMA, MVP, BLK clans etc in Heroic / legendary pve missions. Usually in pvp you get instantly onehsot through cover by them but in pve they can't do sht and keep dying. This is beyond me. Why don't they cheat in pve since they're already doing it in pvp ?
why did the game tell me i got a mailbox gift when i didnt
because cheating in PVE is pointless to most.
there was one person who blatently cheated in PVE and even posted youtube videos of it, i sent that off to the modmail
@limpid pond I've sent quite a few reports of true cheaters in pvp with proof (it's been quite a while now since I've done it. honeslty nothing was ever done even with proof so I stopped reporting human wastes). So basically this has become like div1 pvp moto -> If you don't cheat you can't do sht
Apparel event keys from the season pass perhaps
If Ubi could bring back Conflict post season 10 and a stronger anticheat service I could kick a** like I used to before the oncoming tide of cheaters we have now
?
Careful on top of a cheaters tide we have some smooth brain joining these less than animals
So your upset at more players trying to play pvp
Bros probably expertised to all hell
its from the chest you open in haven, when you get all the ny hunter masks/off white keys
I have that dye without having opened that hunter chest
I really donโt know what the reason is
Ah, I donโt see much of a point for the second one, other than coloring some more stuff black
doesnt matter, op wanted to know how to get it ๐
Hey Local
Good evening Saph 
Invisible gift? 
can someone tell me if anyone having this too.
That is quite enough of that attitude towards other people.
Canโt play pvp and labelling someone having a smooth brain

lady death just shreds in CD, I love it sm
Morning all 

Is descent bugged cant exit after match loss. When i click esc it keeps on showing results instead of exiting
how big is the difference between hard and story mode? ๐
Dunno the exact changes but its not too much harder.
Some
I would say not nearly enough that it would cause any issue for those doing fine on normal
guy i have a question i cant find something
Me too to canโt find something:)
idk where the d-railed control point is
got the btsu gloves from a drop in an invasion that i just did to unlock Manning National Zoo ๐
First exotic ๐ฅณ
Nice
congrats ๐
thanks ๐
Normal does that matter?
Where is the backpack targeted loot for today? Canโt see it
is the ammo specialist achievement bugged? I keep bleeding out enemies with grenades and my hive but the counter won't go higher then 17 am i doing something wrong?
๐ซถ๐ป
What does the achievement entail
klling enemies with shock, burn ,stagger and bleed but the lasat one does not go up for me
so i am confused about this one
Your stinger hive probably killed them with a charge
Idk about frags
Use ridgeway if you have it
Or ongoing directive
Oh is it like kill them while they have the status applied
i tried that as well and it is not completing so i don't know about that one
it is the only from stopping me to achieve it
Tinkering in the Tinkering station not been loading up any menus for me since last night after many full reloads of the game & router reset something is a bit borked
Whoever has a direct line of communication with the devs needs to inform them to plz nerf the Mortar in PvP..
I think we should stop mentioning it - like after we explain to people how it works if they ask in build-advice or something, we purge all the messages, so we can enjoy nice things xD
๐ "Yes, Yannick? This is 'dolph, Midas is telling me to nerf Mortar in PvP. Nerf it how? I don't know, what if you code in a little lag so there's a huge delay between pressing to fire the mortar and actually firing the mortar - like if you had 200ms ping. Yup, that was it, call you tomorrow"

He will add the lag equal to a delta than 
That's how it is when a dev interprets "user language"
Delta-03 on firing mortar 
๐"Yannick, Naval. Execute error code GATE-01."
"it will be done my lord"
"Yannick, 511,Execute ErrorCode 511"
My man out here asserting dominance. No bullshitting, just
"Yannick, Naval" and then an order
No mercy for the gate strat
I am just really confused about the ammo specialist merrit to the point of giving up xD
the bleed score just won't go up no matter which enemy i make bleed out
honestly confused at what you're trying to accomplish?
oh i am trying to finish the ammo specialist merit , I discovered I have nearly done all of it and just to finish it I need 3 more bleed kills. But i have killed so many enemies with the bleed from my grenades and hive that i am not getting the last 3 kills
Can you post the merit here ?
you specifically need the bleed ammo, from the crates on the ground
Won't OD work?
i'm not sure. havent tried it myself, but i wouldnt be suprised if it didnt work
Explosive and Hollow-Point applies bleed on hit, so OD should work
OD definitely work with explosive bullets, actually works with every special ammo (status effect)
On today's episode of "How cursed will this Countdown run be?" - first Hunter encounter I throw my foam nade, as I throw it I take one step to the side and hit a tree, so it bounced back 
You really don't read the context for something, do you? 
We're talking in relation to a specific commendation designed to reward you for using ammo boxes ^^
you really don't understand what others writes, do you? ๐คจ
I do. If your message is a response to the conversation, it makes no sense. And if it's a random statement with no relation to the conversation, then it's just odd 
it's a reply to you saying "OD should work" where I said "OD definitely works with explosive bullets", that's all
Then you didn't understand my message.
Explosive bullets applies bleed on hit
Hollow-Point bullets - only gained from OD or ground pickup - applies bleed on hit.
In relation to the commendation
Didnt realise floor 100s doors closed now
Guess I cant cheese it with a dodge city headshot build
Resolve moment truly
Now we just need the same treatment for gate strat
Did you do legendary or heroic ? I tried both, legendary in a group was painful
When gate strat gets fixed wonโt people just do reverse gate?
Sorry
If
What's a reverse gate
Where you stand behind them
Yeah that ones like 100x better
It's way faster and the team actually has to have decent builds
Yeah but itโs the same concept as gate ๐ just in reverse
Nah cuz gate strat takes way too long and people can cheese with Garbo builds
Stand in one spot, get hit by minimal skill proxies, dps bosses before they blow the fuck out of you
Is that for legendary tidal or manning?
Incursion
Oh thereโs always the gazebo
I've never seen anyone actually try to do it any way other than either of those
Protection from mortar spam ๐
manning has the sorpio bug with the bosses
And of those running up is WAY better
Challenging lmfao
I'm tempted to just run in there with a heartbreaker unbreakable build
Oh solo?
Heading to New York ๐
pats
I had to carry a 4 man on floor 100 heroic before Scorpio makes it piss easy if you can isolate them
Legendary it's probably worse
Legendary is tragic as they made all the cover the one where you have to crouch
Oh yikes so you can't even peek
Isnโt that so you canโt abuse some cover glitch
The hunters spam oxi chem, jammer, fire chem so really you donโt have any cover
Also if you die you get sent all way back I think ๐๏ธ๐ฅฒ
Itโs truly amazing
Canโt wait for them to make it like descent where if you die on floor 100 you get sent to floor 1
That Summit floor 100 change is the worst thing honestly. Summit is just chill, shoot stuff and loot mode so I don't know who was asking for that. Just stuck in the open to get blown to pieces by a bunch of hunters and have to do all the regular goons again. ๐
I donโt get why they just keep giving the hacking and EMP floors theyโre just a pain and slows down your progression
Especially when the hacking isnโt scaled to your team
I hate the one shot hacking emp that one shots entire squad from 511m away
Ah yes I love how the Jupiter mission says to take care of their supply on the island so no one else can use it
Magically every other mission and summit floor has it
Idk which is worse the big connely emp box or the little connely emp grenades
Ok. So is it just me or do hyenas and rikers just hit like very small yet very real freight trains on Heroic?
It's not difficult or anything, but more just annoying when my unbreakable pops immediately because an enemy managed to catch a tiny glimpse of me.
Hyena assault and grenadier are ridiculously armored
And do a ton of damage for some reason
Riker heavy gunner โฆ idk where his armor is from but I want it
Agreed. I do know why hyenas hit so hard though, it's cause their weapons are coded to be smgs that deal the same damage per shot as an assault rifle. Of course on lower difficulties, it's balanced by the fact that they couldn't hit the broadside of a barn like 50 percent of the time.
I think itโs cause they burst fire and all their shots hit you
But on anything that's challenging or above? Hello AI hit scan.
Same with riker rusher
True sons assault for example and outcast they are armored but donโt burst fire
his armor is worse then other chungas
Rushers I understand, yeah, they're kinda expected to hit like a truck if you let em close, but eh... Sometimes it really is just one of those moments you kill them and go. "Really? That much damage?"
this is the consequence of running 6 red
The aimbot on Heroic is real sometimes though, the amount of times I've been killed by a hyena that's literally populating Guam is more than I care to mention.
The funny thing is though I'm not even running 6 red, I'm running 5 blue 1 red lol
Thanks i did the intro and now a break . Also i already love the atmosphere of NY ๐
you need to use crusader shield then
enemies do not do that much damage to me
Eh, I could, and I know there's options to get around it, but sometimes I just really don't feel like using the shield, I do have decoy tho but sometimes I swear they just... Don't go for it at all? And then others they literally just forget me entirely
Shields are definitely good, but I just don't enjoy using them 100 percent of the time is all
decoy is alot stronger when ur not shooting
True, tbf though I should probably add the context that I mean in terms of heroic control points specifically, where the reinforcements take legit ages sometimes. Does depend on the control point tho I will admit
And the faction ofc
Hyenas though I just... Low key despise? Like, lore and everything, they're fine, I guess. But fighting them in Heroic? Sometimes I really just can't be asked.
lol they are one of the easiest factions
Eh, depends on the playstyle and human experience more than anything, some people just find different factions more painful than others.
And that's not even mentioning build diversity...
Hyenas are quite easy tbh
Only trouble is for headhunters when they get rushers but they're so weak you can just pop them again and restart the chain
True, as I said tho, I don't find hyenas difficult. Just a little annoying sometimes. Headhunter builds are decent though unless you're trying to headshot one with a mask and a helmet. But that's just my experience and it as usual, depends on the situation
Heroic you either kill or be killed. 5 blues mean nothing if you don't have any damage reduction. It's heroic afterall
It doesn't matter what faction.
We First Got The Dragov Outfit Then Conley One Right ? I Was Not Playing The Game Like 1-2 Weeks Probably And Curious About If I Miss Something ?
Javier Will Be Hella Nice Tbh (Soon) - Screw The Theo (Kid)
At The End I Guess Keener Would Be Like Recruiter Bundle (1500-2500 Credits)
- With Hoodie And Without Hoodie Outfit
- Personal Mask
- Small Chance But When You Equip All The Pieces Your Watch Turns Red (I HOPE)
This tbh
Far as the rogue outfits, like em, but really sorta wish they weren't stuck as uniforms, but that's just a small gripe of mine ig
Or if you aren't running a shield
Shield is damage reduction though
Well, technically, separate health bar, same diff.
It's better to look at a shield as damage negation, not reduction.
for PvE, the only real way to "tank" is with a shield and some cores that help buff it up.
which is why something like the Memento is so popular with it.
Oh yeah, I just meant that when Rudolph said damage reduction, the shield could have been counted under that umbrella
Didn't mean to imply that the shield itself was dmg reduction tho
Never meant to imply shield as DR - that's stuff like hazpro.
Having 700K armor or 2KK armor is just a few more bullets - and considering how much damage you drop, well. I'd rather kill faster than be killed slower.
2k armor
Eh, that's more preference than anything though. All red is nice, but that also requires the skill to actually stay alive being made of literal paper, which not everyone has ๐
Not saying I don't, but eh, seen it before a lot in random lobbies
Yeah, but run 5 blue cores with no DR nor even using a shield? Good, you're gonna take 4 more bullets, but you're also gonna take longer pr. kill
blues are mostly meaningless if ur not running shield or memento
Can 2 players maybe help summit 100 on hard?
I don't fully agree, but I do see your point. Cause 4 bullets is still 4 bullets sometimes
It all depends on the situation, too many variables to say conclusively that it makes no difference after all.
End of the day tho, I just complain a lot sometimes for the sake of it tbh. If it were that bad tho I just wouldn't play lmao
Thanks for the conversation tho, always nice to get a second opinion and stuff.
There's really no argument here. The value of the blue core alone is just bad. You want that blue core to actually matter by running DR - which makes you tankier - or by using the shield, because it scales better off the raw cores than you do.
All we're saying is, you're complaining about dieing too fast, but aren't running 6 reds so you can kill faster and you aren't utilizing your blue cores with DR/shield.
Damn, there goes my always-extract-heroic-countdown streak. Guess that's what happens when you play with someone who uninstalled their brain and keeps using hackable skills at extraction
Maybe they're were listening to localdeck's suggestion to sacrifice us to lootcifer
Not really, theyโre easy when theyโre clustered but spread out theyโre a painโฆ cluster because they like explosives on their side and drugs
All factions when spread out are much harder to beat
I prefer outcasts spread out than clustered ๐
You set them on fire they set everything on fire loool
me one shotting a group because there's an elite outcast rusher next to them:
Yea but when you donโt have that rusher ๐
I avoid setting them on fire like the plague lol
Only at door spawns
That fire finds its way to you somehow
I also find it annoying the flamethrower if you break the weak point and leave her to die people kill her ๐
I want explosion kill
its easy to accidentally explode that weakpoint
Oh yeah, I do get what you're saying don't get me wrong, and you are right. I will say however, I wasn't particularly complaining about dieing in general, just particularly about how tanky rikers can be. Fact is though, I'm not particularly looking for any kinda solution, like I said, I recognize that the shield and dr are solutions, but sometimes it gets boring if that's all you run, and sometimes, depending on the build, running it isn't the better option.
I just aim for hers regardless โฆ cleaner assaults too
now that's a hard faction
Itโs just too satisfying
(I blame riker leaders)
Not trying to start an argument or anything though, so I get the feeling that I should probably be quiet ๐
Riker leaders + ragers ๐ฅฒ
I miss ragers as a directive why do we only get pistolero and fragile armor
ragers is a fake directive just like old no regen
ragers is so free
I find it fun
I do have one question tho, rikers, why do they just constantly have the green stim bar when legit nothing buffed them?
leaders
Bc they have a leader that overheals
their existence gives every other riker overhealth which is annoying
and if there's 2 leaders both those leaders get overhealth
In descent go for that leader immediately or enjoy being spawn trapped
Ah, okay. Just not entirely clear on rikers 100 percent, haven't fought em in awhile, nor have I fought them properly enough since like, WONY.
Thanks btw
The rikers tank is my favorite to fight
I like shooting through his little peek hole and breaking his visor then each weak point one by one
But itโs too easy to cheese ngl
He should have Dragovs armor
"Hey, you like light shows?" ๐
rikers tank hits hella hard
He hits you out of nowhere ๐ฅฒ
I like shoving my assault rifle past their shield and they die instantly
what even is that thing a nail gun?
Legit riker faction to the best of my knowledge: "Hey, you like bleed?"
1000 warhounds with glass cannon or 1000 riker tanks?
Pretty sure it's a nailgun yeah
what warhounds
Iโm saying which would you rather fightโฆ with dps
hopefully not 1000 grenade dogs
Depends on the warhound type tho
1000 sniper dogs you can never peak
Snipers, miniguns or bombers?
Variety ๐
just kill one ez