#td2-general-chat
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if it was removed from dz it would always be a level playing field for all
That is a good thing
what if you would get some kind of compensation?
because in reality.. pve expertise just helps the team overall.
yeah that would be great.. but its not something they are probably gonna consider
They aren't going to and tbh I really couldn't care less imo
obv
which takes me back to my original statement of a goodwill cache so everyone gets something back
Optimisation costs are also going down
and my original point.. you wouldnt need compensation if they just left the system alone... if it aint broke dont fix it
it was supposed to be a long term grind
I mean it is broke tbh
Costs are way too big
I mean I get his point even tho it is a bit selfish and the thinking is probably reactionary, BUT why not make everyone happy instead of catering only new players or players who didn't invest as much in expertise.
the cost has always been broken
Literally the only place I've seen pushback for this is this server
I mean I'm not as high as some here
Like 16 and It really doesn't bother me
dont miss understand I am all for the changes
I feel like I've said before
Idk how they would calculate the amount of mats people need lol
To reimburse
total exo (example 135) used -42exo=there you go
At the end of the day the changes are good for 90% of the player base
they change is good for the ones that whine that dz is not "fair"
the changes are good for the long term survival of the game
it was a flawed system, level 50 in disguise
Which is their entire point with project resolve tbh
All this is done to set up future content
it wouldve been better to not introduce. just facilitated imbalance and power creep where it wasnt needed
what I don't really get is why they waited so long to release it now as one or two big updates
"1000 bug fixes"
tried to report the "Send link to chat" feature for over 2 years now and it is still broken, so much quality of life stuff is needed and so on
I'd really appreciate if there were more updates frequently instead of waiting half a year
guys i still cant find name badguyon for ugly shirt
They extended the seasons for this probably
only 3 seasons this year now instead of 4... right?
Yea but in 2022 basically their team was still pretty small
Pretty sure they've been building it up since then
BRUH
if you are going to the area TOOO SOON he won't spawn.....
Game wasn't projected to have support past the 3rd year, but they got a new team together that has no real background in the game and are fixing code from the last team iirc
If there was no playerbase - they wouldn't fix it. I'm happy that we have updates
Incursion helped bring in ALOT of new players
im trying to help newer players clear incursions. since i have two ouros now i'll be giving away the next ones i get as a pay it forward for people who helped me get through my first incursion, and my second one where i got the first ouro
As the 5.11 ambassador I will give away 5.11 pcs for recalibration library 
hell yeah. i got a max rolled purple piece of china light that im keeping for now to use in explosive builds. its armor is only 7k less than a high end piece so dont really mind the purple, esp since i rarely need explosive/crit builds
5.11 shilling everywhere haha
Pathcnotes are today or tomorrow?
So I just glitched space administration to be open doors by accident
Thought that was patched
holy 6 second time saves
If I had to guess today since preload starts today
Yea lol
I skipped the whole part where you move the giant thing on the conveyor
Like a 2-3 min time save
holy crap
what are end game activites? is it just farm countdown and summit, still?
Okay I like this ugly green sweater might wear it often
Incursion
Raids
Descent but idk if I'd call that end game
its not even ugly
Raids, incursion, countdown, summit, descent, manhunts
It's very fashionable tbh
so same as before ๐ฆ
Paradise lost came out this season lol
what is that?
Incursion
IDK what is the point of doing anything else when countdown gives the loot u need
Ouroborous lmao
Raids and incursions have exclusive exotics you won't get anywhere else
Don't count on the DZ the drop chances are stupidly low
open world stuff. control points, public executions, (elite) terrirory controls, (elite) rescource convoys. those can keep things from getting to repetetive when you're sick of countdown
I know and i played those but like i said countdown is the only thing that always gives u the loot ur looking for
everything else has 0.1% drop rate or the rewards are just ๐ฉ
I assume you haven't got ouroborous yet which you should be looking for
Nope and whats the point of it all? there would be 1 maybe if the pvp was good
but most of the time when i go in to the dark zone it is dead
To shred enemies faster lol
the darkzone is dead
Same reason optimisation and expertise exists
i gone through it many times and it is always dead or nobody PVPs there
The dark zone is like a shred of the games content
If you want full on pvp play conflict or something
what else is there to do? i thought the end goal was farm PVE get good gear then PVP with other players
is darkzone dead in oce
There's always records to break commendations to get and cosmetics to earn
can't wait for expertise to be gone in conflict
For example the mask you get for flawlessing the incursion is very neat
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I've never touched pvp in this game so I don't really get a say
I want more hunter masks like wrights and the bloody one from this pass where it covers your head
cant get to spawn in that named sergeant for winter project
try on 2 chars its just dont spwns
i just meant end game activites
Legendaries
cant believe they delayed the new DLC for 1 more year
halfway point between the two locations. after 22:00
in a parking lot kinda thing
im on spot were he comes out in nighttime but nathing
no drop?
I'm done all my exams now
cant get that sergeant to spwn no named enemy
Keep in mind you have to reach there after it's night time and not be there before
oh. are you sure its been past 22:00?
just cuz its dark doesnt mean it counts as night
yes i go to place after 21 00
i try all night after 21
Even at 2200 you get 7 hours of leeway so it's fine
oh then you got a problem then
alrerady waited 2 nights to get it nathing got only red enemys spawn in his location
is the PTS preload available
doesnt look like its up yet
Last time iirc it was around 6 or 5 pm my time
And I'm on the WET timezone
yaaaaayyyyy
very nice
Hope ur exams went well
Just in time for the pts ehehe
Anyone getting crashes after these updates? Previous months were fine
i had one
Did you change anything on your pc like mouse, joystick and so on?
Played a week or two without issues and now back to almost uninstalling the game for another year or two and hope things get fixed again
No. Zero changes, did not install or change anything at all
Well what caused my issue was easy anti cheat not liking me leaving joystick plugged in
It would freeze then crash
I see. Yeah, I haven't changed anything recently.
Thanks for trying to help, much appreciated
They're releasing a big stability and balance patch early next year, first pts this weekend, maybe try and see if it's more stable for you
Finally got Ouroboros from lovebirds after so many runs... has DMG to target out of cover at max.. Now my problem is farming for optimization to max the smg dmg since i lack of resources... Do ppl farm Field Recon Data into Summit?
You can farm summit boss floors or spam cp4
make mule char run dlc in 4 hours then claim all resources what need for optimization thats easy way
Lower SHD not worth it
if you have a lvl 40 hepler it takes less than 2 hours
im 2.7k shd i make each week 1 char for resources
It was fine until they started rolling the December updates.
I did see the announcement, hope it gets fixed before, if not I will just wait
if someone wait for hight to get private cole inv mee mine is buged cant get thim spawn
As most players need these materials, the easiest way is to make another player and rerun NYC (call for backup) then use those watch points to get the materials maxed out
@rain lynx Are you sitting at the spawn area waiting for the guy to come out? Or do you wait at a safe house until 22:00, then fast travel to View Point and go to the spot? cuz if you are going before 22:00 that's your problem
Going by the last one, spawn is rng, you're looking for patterns where there aren't any
You have to pray to rnjesus
i travel to spot after 21 and nathing got only red mobs on spwn location
i try all night cant get restart game tryed all
Go After 22:00, it sounds like you are going TOO SOON
Just keep trying
you have until 05:00 to travel there
nope after 21 is good but anyway like i said i try all night on 2 chars cant get him only red mobs
2 nights spend now wait timer for 3 night
welp if you wont try later that's going to be your issue, you can not be there TOO soon
i say again i travel there all night nathing and on 2 chars
i need somene from pc to inv mee to their map
im on spot on nightime but hes dont spawns like in video
Last one took me about 4 nights to find him, didn't do anything different, it's just rng
Should reset the control points
The video Literally Cuts from him wearing the sweater to not wearing the sweater, so the edit Doesn't actually show you what time He showed up there...
GO AFTER 22:00
Just in case I missed anything - PTS preload is still unavailable. right?
believe so
don't sit and wait for Cole.
if its spawn on my map ill invite if anyone need
They will tweet and it'll show up in #news-and-announcements when it does keep an eye out
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Did they add another time sensitive boss
Apparently yes
cole spawnd
yeah
if anyone want to u can join me
got that private cole finaly this game is full with bugs devs cant make one mob spawn right
nice
same deal, go at to kill a dude at a corner
Bet ya it was after 22:00...
last one i got at 21:30, but yeah yeah i know it's not real evidence
gonna try for cole, only had time for one shot yesterday
it spawn before 22
Just do it before 5:11

Try running three times widdershins around the white house, that worked for me so it must work for everyone else
for secont char also its dont spwns
#ask-td2-community message
could anyone draw on the mapa where they have seem him?
nope nada
another attempt at 02:50
dumb question, for the last guy did you all get him and he was already there, or he spawned whne you were doing an activity in there?
hes all time in same spot must bee night ower and it not spwned for second char
except when he isnt, entire point is me going there both times over 22:00 and there's nothing there
yep night ower now must wait again
before i runed there this time i reset cp maybe that helped spwn him but on second char nathing helped
The people who die at the end of countdown and then try to block the extraction rope when downed โ ๏ธ
And then someone thinks I'm invincible lmao
We're getting pts patch notes today?
We'll get it when we get it... keep an eye on #patch-notes
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@rain lynx you only need to do it on one Character, since the Sweater is unlocked for ALL your characters, unless your brain just won't let you have unfinished projects.
MR Einstein i know that all cosmeticks need unlock on one char and they works on all
i just want doo it on second just becas like today when for one char named enemy dont spwn it
cuz you don't English well I guess I misunderstood, I thought You had got done at least once. Oh well.
yes once but when my main char is buged like today mee atleast can get that cosmetic on second char
patch size:90gb ๐ญ
Still more fluent than me in any other language than English
so he can't wear the sweater on his main that he unlock via the 2nd character?
90gb wtf
i can wear all cosmeticks i just say for one character that named mob spawn is buged thats why need run on second that project
Nah, he wants to be up to date on the projects on all characters in case another one comes along where he can't get them to spawn on main character
you complete right
mine is 12 gb. TAKE THAT, PERSON WHO WAS DOUBTING ME FOR KEEPING THE LAST PTS INSTALLED TO AVOID A BIG DOWNLOAD
Download it in 5mins 11s than 
i have no idea how long it took bc it was already in progress when i came to my 'puter. but its done now a couple min later
is the pre load available? its grayed out for me
try switching to beta version of ubi connect
thats how i saw that mine was already in progress
then i went back to normal mode and it was there
shots fired ๐
2 and 1/4 shots fired from a double barrel sawed off with mag size attribute
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i thought it was common knowledge
whoop whoop, got Private Cole on first try - makes up for taking 4 nights to find Hatter
My hatter took 3 fucking nights and then decided to spawn in the middle of an activity with black tusk
i cant get this god damn hatter guy to spawn
its midnight and im running up and down the street
fast travel out and run in from a bit further maybe
What worked for me is fast travelling to the nearby safe house, then leaving and walking over at about 21:30-22:00.
Still took 3 goes though, because div2.
sigh no now its 6 am
did you do an acitvitY?
i did a supply drop thinking tthat would ttrigger
You should reset the map first, by default a public execution is normally there.
21:00 to 05:00 is night, anything after that almost 100% won't count.
reset?
Map > global settings. Reset checkpoints.
You are going to be refarming them anyway, there's more rewards for completing them on Lvl 3/4 (Chall/Heroic) than there are physical CP's in total.
You can see a full list of rewards for them at your Crafting Table.
yeah i guess
It's not actually a convoy that you're looking for by the way. Just a named enemy will show up. For me it was already attacking the Execution.
not needed, I'd already cleared the nearby activity during the daytime, when I came back at night the boss spawned
he just pops up
The control point would need to be uncaptured either way, by the (lying) wording of the Project they're taking supplies to it.
maybe tthats why then. @tender wave did you reset your CPs?
See that's just needlessly complex, msv.
doubt that's true, I got Hatter when CP was friendly
pretty sure the spawn is just RNG, keep trying until you get lucky
So basically no part of the Project's description is accurate.
it's not a convoy, no supplies are being taken, to a control point they control.
correct
just rng ๐
This is why we have trust issues lol.
just copied the live game and updated it (~10GB)
I guess the whole download is ~90GB
anyone else having shit matchmaking today?
Everyday is shit mm yo
not usually. its like everyone running ge and cool skills and dont know wtf to do ๐คฃ
well got the supply drop from cole
he only spawned whne there was na activity near his spawn
argh he wont respawn at all ๐
all i get is ambushers
i had PTS on my Ubi+ Account, it is now gone. someone remind me how to put it back on my Games
i swiched to uplay beta and get division 2 test version in libary
TY, that did it
im tempted to unlock my QoS from 1Gbit to 5Gbit. 5.4GB /77.41 @ 115 MB/s 10 minutes Remain
I really wish they would increase clan sizes to 100 members per clan
someone read about project resolve?
I mean about the talents
when show a talent name and said pvp only, that means that we cannot use this talents anymore for PvE?
no, it means the talent will stay the same for PVE but wil be changed in some way for PVP
is the only changes to countdown/summit server stability
you mean that talents for PVP will put some limits?
when you enter the DZ or conflict game mode the talent will be changed to an alternative version
NPCs cant ask for nerfs but players can so some things are altered just for the sake of PVP being better but in a isolated way
Can you get a sig mpx blueprint cant see it in the crafting menu?
fuuuucking finally got the hatter, i think there has to be a red activity spawned on the road
didnt need to reset CP tho
Are there a bunch of newbs that just hit CD today for the first time ever?
Green as I am, I've never yet been in a CD that entirely wiped until just now.
i just spawned 4 hunters by accident lol i was like hmm this placelooks familiar turned on the christmas tree and saluted all of a sudden fizzle 4 hunters up my ass lmao
does any one wanna help me run the eagle bearer raid mission i need 5 players
Can the chameleon get dmg to targets out of cover or am i getting unlucky
getting unlucky
ffs well ive budgeted 5 more rolls but ill probably get annoyed and go over lol ty
9 rolls all had crit chance wtf
Chameleon is fixed w/ chc as the 3rd attribute
Yeh just found that out saw you can see the attributes
not happy cause had a god roll one lol
its being changed tho w/ project resolve, i think all exotics can have a random 3rd
Need some help, just downloaded the game, got the ultimate edition. Accidently started the DLC story and have completed that but now all the main missions for the main game have been completed. any ideas whats going on?
that's what happens when u boost ur character, ur map will be setup to look as if u beat the main game
ok. just confusing, is it worth replaying the missions to understand the story
What time start the division 2 PTS new content?
idk, that's something u have to decide for urself. if u already know the story up til the dlc, then i guess not @lethal bronze
If it's your first playthrough and you care about the story progression - I'd recommend starting from scratch and follow the main story.
If you don't care - proceed with what you have now
What part of the story are you looking towards? Keener? or Why DC fell? Or stuff about Black Tusk?
Never played the game before so don't know what's going on
start a new character and do it legit
in a weird general sense of progression, you do all main missions, then you do alternative versions of them, then the missions that came with year 1 in certain order (zoo, camp white oak, pentagon, coney island) THEN you go for the expansion
It wasnt saluting that triggered it, you ran in circles around the tree multiple times
no i turned on lights and saluted a tree and they popped up
No you ran around it lol
Hey guys, I'm on the scavenging hunt part where I have to kill a convoy between Jefferson trade and navy. Any idea what time they spawn?
2100-0500 overnight
Great. Thanks
Give it around 10mins so 2110 before walking to the area
is liquid engineer dz exclusive? or does summit work?
Yes it is
damn
Of course there's a chance for the Countdown/DZ vendors too
Still dz exclusive since those aren't exclusive to anything
know the rough drop rate?
true
Hello, what do you think, are there more players from the division 1 and 2 on PC including the various launchers or are there more active players on the Playstation 4 or 5 console? I'm thinking about whether I should continue playing on the PS5 or continue playing on the PC after a long break from gaming
Id say good chance is PC playerbase is larger
man i wish there was an easier way t get the sturdy 5.56 mag ๐ฆ
Y'all...I abandoned the winter project because my game froze for like 10 seconds and I guess I hit triangle at some point and when it unfroze it abandoned my winter project and now it says it's complete...it says there's a 24hr timer on it now....does anyone know if I lost that stage entirely or if it's just gonna start me back there
Lmaoo some guy DMd me saying the division 2 and 1 is a bad game and I should play something else, cant even be a casual anymore
I mean its a bad game but a lot of games that are multiplayer are bad so thats just copium on his end
I just wanna play for fun
Like fr dude aint said a word in this server for 6 months and has never DMโd me
Mfs do that to a lot of games
anyone having trouble find private cold ugly sweater here i cant find at alll
not really unless you really want to
What I did was wait at The Castle settlement until my in-game watch said it was 21:00.
After that, I started walking to where the npc spawns and he was there no problem.
Do not be in the area, be far away and make your way there after 21:00.
nvm finally got today donate 20 components for new Emote guys
Cole not spawning. Was not in the area. Showed up a lil after 2100. Nadda
I even went to the area started yelling "yo momma" jokes to try and provoke him. Still nothing ๐
smh lol dont be in the places were spawn run round the map do other stuff then come bk see if he there i ahd the same thing
I'll go do a bounty, execution, or broadcast come back and still nothing. Maybe I should stand in the area and ring my new bell ๐คท๐ปโโ๏ธ
i want round 2100aka 9pm and isaw him there
2100 I'll fast travel to Viewpoint and make my way there. Before I knew where he spawned I was starting at DZ east and walking up and down the street.
We need a nap mode to speed up the time. LOL
it on 7th St NW
Right. I'm in the right location this evening
They couldn't make you at least hum the Christmas Carol?
just walk round for while come bk
theres no voice in the game so no
god the hunt for this backpack is pissing me off
oh the backpack is live?
the christmas backpack?
im looking for a haste/dmg empress with combined arms
for what
20% 2 pcs bonus is nice 
just thinking since brand bonus are getting some buffs
and explosive damage is preeety rare
this freaking backpack i swear to god
why the hell did they have to make it a blue core
Wut are the attributes?
For the Christmas bag what are the attributes are the fixed?
Uhhh wtf. Anyone else having trouble getting ammo?
I keep restocking and my Famas is perpetually stuck at 50 rounds?
Bro what the hell...
I don't even have assault rifle ammo in my resources tab.
LMAO WTF.
Anyone else having this problem? I'm like literally locked out of using ARs. lol
all good over here
mine was fine and i just opened the game to do a project and bail
Need help with in game setting?
well stupid question is do you have some kind of ammo directive on like pistolero?
Bro, my AR ammo is legit missing. I'm stuck at 50 rounds in my mag.
have you tries restarting
No, all directives are disabled. wtf
does it work with other guns?
switch the AR for something else
just relog then tbh
This channel so active damn
well i think they fixed the OD ammo bug but never know ยฏ_(ใ)_/ยฏ
mjeh
thats completely unrelated lol
well people are hyped for big gun buffs
who knows, weird stuff could have weird interactions
All I know is that I can't use my ARs cause the ammo resource is literally non-existent. lmfao
Ok now, it's working fine.
this backpack is really pissing me off
should i keep copy of the same exotic? or no need them so deconstruct doubles
i would say just one is good enough
Still no Cole. ๐
dont keep what you dont need
no dam n backpack yet
why is there website like this https://www.ubisoft.com/en-us/game/the-division/the-division-2/news-updates
wdym
i dont see white text on white background
look in td2 community
you too lol
the text is black here
Do not arrive the location (1247 4136) before 2100, fm 2000 walk fm the viewpoint museum, the yellow guy should appear there.
Idk what I need. As a new player collecting everything.
heres what i follow
if its an exotic keep it (no dupes)
if its currently on a build keep it
if youre currently farming for it keep it
else: trash
except mods, which just keep all the godrolled ones lol
I keep max rolled stuff just incase for my library
oh that too]
im so used to just deconstructing everything that isnt either what im looking for or a godrolled skill mod lol
anyone got any knowledge on hop populated dz is in OCE
whats oce
id assume the same as all other servers just less overall servers
its not really possible to quantify but uh a decent amount
thanks
@sudden moth damn how did u make ur dis profile like that?
its a free profile effect you get from using nitro
Oo
Free
nitro
There's a free trial on right now, but after that yeah it's paid.
why not use the named hana u
unless ur going for a diff build
ay man, nitro got some new profile customization give it a sus
Yup need nitro for that
ugh, whose bright idea was it to tie the holiday stuff to a spwan at night? lol
Second time during the winter hunt
i'm stucking on getting the ugly green sweater -_-
private cole dont like to spawn yes
best is to after 21:00 tele to mision location and run to spot thats how i got him 2 times spawned
how many more project do we have left?
The named backpack is going to be added to the Loot Goblin's pool once you complete 15 projects, at least that's the info we have right now.
i know theres 15 total im asking how many are left
loot goblin fuck then looks like will bee without backpak this year 0 goblins kiled
It's actually "be" or "be a". Bee is an insect.
@sterile ferry the way the projects work, is that it's one where you donate a resource, and one where you donate an exotic, one after another.
yeah but how many left ๐ฉ
done that every chance i've gotten and still nothing -_-
i was hoping backpak will bee on last project so all can get it since gobling is just one big bug in game
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Idle gargantuan wasp
lol
I'm waiting for patch notes more, than for PTS itself ๐
Now that's an exotic
stinger hive but with bee ๐ค
new April Fools GE spoilers.
4 if you got todays. Day 10 was the Ugly Green Sweater.
I havenโt done todays yet
the donation right after ugly?
Yes.
Lmfao
the new emote pulls out a little clipboard lol
5.11 emoji on April fool ?
hey folks, has anyone encountered this issue on PC where every time you ADS it aims like a few degrees up from where you had your reticle? Its very confusing and frustrating. Makes fights a pain.
It will always to screen middle with regard to you for
Its not to screen middle tho? My reticle is already screen middle. Its going up. Its literally moving my whole viewpoint up
if i keep adsing the same spot, it goes higher and higher and higher. Never had this issue until this most recent reinstall.
Metoo
Oh they added the Christmas Carol emote 
Patch notes waiting room is filling up
Getting a bit full ๐ญ
Patch note pvp meta researcher
anybody know when pts drops?
Yeah I was gonna ask anyone know when the new big update happens problem resolve
is this just in descent or outside too? because i notice it mostly in descent
Everywhere.
actual dead game
DO YOU KNOW WHEN THE PTS IS OPEN???
Nope(
same as last time maybe 4pm uk time
was when the rest of pts downloaded as atm they said 90gb for it and my last pts size is 78gb
and pts channel will be open also
Do we have to re download the game for the pts?
pts is a completely separate client, so yes
I wonder how many agents gonna lose their mind when pts gets delayed ๐
Might be one of them days @opal radish ๐ฟ ๐ฟ
Ahh as always Ubisoonโข๐ป๐ฟ
You can shortcut the download a bit by starting it then copying your existing game folder into the PTS one, should cut the download to about 12Gb
It will be interesting to try the new summit, and see what has changed.
only optimization, and fixing floor 100, If I recall corectly. Nothing else
Not even some winows :/
They said rework of summit, to make it more interesting.
Any updates on the pts/patch notes?
Probably lock to 5.11
Probably won't let you in the game though, iirc you just get a warning like Mike during launch
Yea but it should be very soon
Gimme my patch notes, pls ๐ญ
No tweet so no patch notes yet
Oh, I'm super curious about textile - will they change anything about it or it will remain dead
I wouldn't assume any changes, it's not really part of what this update is focusing on
What about Kenly College rework ๐
There's always spark of hope ๐
They did say on the stream starting this season they actually are looking for more uses for it
Notes are usually released 4 hours from now i think
yeah, but they've also put most of their usual development on hold for this, to focus on bug fixes and balance
Legendary bounties would be fun to have there. With random spawns.
maybe a more expensive, textile only unlocking for past exclusive cosmetics ๐ซ
wouldn't do much for veteran players who likely have the biggest textile hoards
People are in the pts
But no announcement
Trello shows nothing too.
That instant med kit is pretty good tbh
As a panic heal
wouldnt get to excited i was in and out in under 4 mins no new stuff to test only pvp descent
new gear is jan to test
Well there goes my interest
no rebalancing?
There is also no tinkering menu anywhere
bruh
not sure i always delete a alt and make fresh alt as u spwan maxed out etc
Patch Notes would come after the PTS opens
But they didn't even announce it being open
PTS is literally up and running, I'm in now
Someone look at an EB
To see if there's actual balancing this pts
empress backpacks still blue core
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no eagle could not be change yet they8 did say pts pahse 2 in the stream in jan
They can't even get the pts right
why thats
The pts forums aren't even open
There's no announcement
They didn't even tweet it was open
last time they opened 4pm uk time the forums
Should open the pts the same time as the forums
thats true
you can reconfigure 3rd stat on EB though
might log back in before it closes to see all the chat were noobies ask do we keep this stuff lol
I'm just gonna go eat hopefully by then they actually announce it's open 
expertise page on the recalibration bench has been renamed Tinkering (but the recalibration page is still there too)
pts pahse 2 jan
They said in SOTG that patch notes and forums opens after the PTS has become available.
Which it has
With no announcement
That was never stated to be the case
They should be more clear of what is in which phase
Looks like servers are up but not the notes
And no announcement ๐
yep
lol posted 8 minutes ago.
So I bought the steam version..I don't have the PTS
The Carbine 7 and Stoner LAMG will no longer drop with a preset talent.
Almost none of those brand set changes do anything to change most builds. They either improve existing ones a little or have an impact on PVP.
"Gear Combat Lock
While in combat, players will no longer be allowed to swap individual gear pieces or loadouts."
Ffs.... This sucks...
Ouch....
Well fuck, didn't drop that down to read it but man... Mah speeds.
You should have PTS in ubisoft games library
They don't mention weapons so we'll be able to change them?
well thats a bummer tried to go back in to mess about with eagle and nahhh nothing happens hit play wait 5 secs then goes back to play lol
@tender wave can you test this? The gear swap stuff being locked during combat?
it is, testing in game now
no cant try it again the pts when i now hit play button it goes to start then boom nothingback to click play button non stop lol
Buffed the USC damage but no change to stability just as I expected
Correct me if I'm wrong but there like no weapons with any handling improvements
I see my library and nope. don't see it.
The weapon changes are in there
Oh nvm, misread
is tinkering available? cant see it
pts chat is open
hello everyone
can't see how to get there from inventory but it is in the recal table
I'm new here, just recently bought TD2
Welcome, Agent 
Thanks
Mantis: +30% Weapon Damage
niceeeee
picaros holster blueprint from a level 4 cp, my mate got a hb chest blueprint. were changes to blueprints mentioned?
i was only aware of named bps coming from descent. except for the setup and the closer which you can/could get from CP 3/4 which i cant remember if that was intended
but i'll take a picaros bp. even tho i have more of those than ill ever need
ok, tinkering appears as the name instead of optimisation on the recal table, but actually still only lets you optimise so it's currently a cosmetic change only
Murakami gives 30 % skill damage from 10% wow
jesus mag size all around
Project buffs might actually make me log in every day and do them
I think every project gives the equivalent of a level up now of xp
only 5% for FAL
thats very little
i mean it's second or third AR in terms of damage, but it has 10 less in the mag
it's forever doomed to be bad
THEY FIXED THE "SEND ITEM LINK TO CHAT"!!!
I doubt these talent changes are only pvp there's no way
did they change an all-white screen on blind to an all-black screen? i'm very happy if so
Okay so the talent changes are the in pvp section for whatever reason but apply to PVE only if it states it's pvp only
still wondering why people use st. elmo's engine
am i the only one, who cant find the boss in the winter jacket supply? ..try almost 10 times, but he cant spawn :S
watch several videos, but in the "forklift area" ot the entire road..is nothing.. but its nighttime ingame
accuracy & stability mostly, it's easy to beam enemies in the head (which is an effective damage increase as well as staggering them)
make sense, though i prefer using the chameleon cause of the pew pew
giant magazine, decent talent, wonderful handling makes it easy to hit consistent headshots and targets at range
St.elmo handling is just broken good imo
Also the mods 20chc, 20chd is just really good
is anyone able to install the PTS with the stupid Ubisoft Connect beta?
yeah i had no issues installing with connect beta
where is it?
i found it in my library under the "ready to install" tab
you may have to restart ubi connect to see it
heard that did it for some
ty
happy to help
Nearly 2024 and countdown STILL crashes โ ๏ธ
wow, i just got three st elmo from a single countdown run
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no shotguns changes
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i am depressed
double barrel shotgun needs no buff.
yeah yeah you love the challange, i hate the fact it's worst one on purpose
we had this conversation a billion times on the old forums
they cant be serious about locking gear during combat in future update.. that would seriously screw solo players like me and my partner overโฆ big time.
They see a problem somewhere and that's the reason for the change. Everyone is speculating what the problem is but I wonder what it really is that they are trying to "fix".
well matchmaking into someone using some random directives and not being able to adjust sure is going to suck
Yeah. Thing is there are things that people abuse swapping gear. Busy be stacks, refreshing cool down on bloody knuckles, Acosta OC at skill tier 0 and then using BTSU to OC your team. These are issues that could be fixed but blanket gear lock isn't a good fix.
yo can someone put me on whats new? really shortly i havent played the game since the season where u save some mofos
except the fact that there is a event and all
is it waste of time trying to put together dilemma gear set with 6 skills tiers for making the shield stronger?
New Doctor Home pretty sick
dilemma gear set?
how it works, the wording on talent change makes no sense
on the patchnotes at least
yep. negotionatiors (or how it is spelled lol).
putting skill tiers on the weapon damage to buff the shield.
Why not armor cores?
well i dont know what is better for the shield. armor cores or skill tiers?
Double barrel 2 tap named bosses on heroic.
@kind veldthealing of each headshot, if good at aiming, easy to repair full armor within single mag
I donโt know why I thought the server would be down for maintenance today but awesome, grind on agents!
okay now THATS really good
only if playing solo
Isn't that conflict only?
scalling is not that great
I'm only seeing that doctor home talent listed under conflict talent changes.
oddly enough all talents PVP or not were listed in there
Shields are the only skill that can scale from both armor and skill tier
And it is worth it to invest in it? I was thinking about making something unusual with the gear set, than following meta things.
But i need to know how dillema would perform with either 6 tier skills or armor cores.
well meta would be red with negotiator
the short version of it is: its not worth it
It works on PTS light zone
if you plan ot use the shield makes more sense to use blue since it also buffs your armor
but you are taking a damage set and removing the damage that will probably suck
i was thinking about using my healing drone as well that could benefit from 6 tier.
well if you are mostly usking skills
how do you plan on taking advantage of the crits then?
Hard to say. I was playing with dilemma few times red only and i hated it, cause no survivability. With striker i can at least run bloodsucker red core backpack that gives me bonus armor.
Is anyone experiencing problems with getting the ugly green jumper on ps5 can't seem to get
well my advice would be to just not use that build, what you are doing will gimp your damage so hard that wont be killing anything properly and negotiator is great against mobs, i use clutch with it because the tag talent just kills mobs so i cna keep healing with crits
if you run with shield and healing drone, you have no damage from skills, no armor on your character just from the shield, and no damage from your guns, it sure is an odd choice of things
could just be me but i'm scratching my head to see the good side of that
Alright, so the grind was waste of time lol rip. Thanks
I think they are asking the wrong questions.
do you want ot make a tank build or a negotiator build?
They should be asking what could help my survivability.
its already started in pts chat what u mean we dont get to keep all this stuff lol
if you want a stronger shield, make your nego like normal with all damage and crit, add memento back, use tech specialization . easy 3 skill tiers on a 6red crit build. efficiency from memento with add 30% skill health (shield health). with tech you can also use artificer and itll passivly healt your shield every 10 seconds without ever having to deploy artificer
Negotiator without bag was the most painful experience of my career
Pls use strikers
listen to the person smarter than me
nah its fine. itll wreck regardless
I donยดt wanna use memento for every build i have though. What is the point of other talents and backpacks when you can put memento everywhere?
Negotiator without bag is very strong build. bag is not required at all
It didn't wreck shit
skill issue

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Neg + vigil backpack ๐
multi target lacking
not at all since vigil still buffs mult target
well i did say clutch as a weird alternative for survivability
me when I leave a red at 10% hp after beaming a purple:
skill issue
Bloodsucker is baby memento anyway
ok.. so you went about making yellow nego for your shield.. with memento you can have all your damage.. the yellow cores were a way bigger sacrifice than using memento.
Yeah it is, but way more comfy. I can kill from all directions and have bonus armor without getting inside control point, lol.
memento also retains some damage, regen, bonus armor, skill efficiency
on the bullet king 3rd slot rolled call me rambo
Bloodsucker wins over memento on like sniper headhunter build only
headhunter scales from that 30-60 weapon damage
blooduscker with striker is my speed run build for heroic content without any issues to be honest. i can storm in and be done in like one minute.
I'm not doing an overkill competition so I don't need it
its just not a true statement. doesnt bother me what you prefer.
I wanted to create a rifle build with dilema and strong shield, that was my goal.
But i think i will stick with providence, ceska and overall high end rifle build in that case.
On the other hand, i just donยดt see any example where or how i could run dilemma if striker shreds and gives me the bonus armor all the time to be honest, which kinda sucks
so@azure lintel, if you dont like mem which is perfectly fine, you can also use tech class/picaros for 2 shield tiers and still maintain 6 red cores
That's just nerfing yourself
and 6 yellow cores wasnt?
This is all a self nerf.
That was more than a nerf 
memento is amazing to be honest, but i dont wanna put it everywhere. i also dont play with elmo and stuff but i wanna use "weaker" weapons luke UIC and stuff or honey badger and looking for a ways in which i could have fun with those.
im working on needs of OP, not absolute meta
imo unless off meta provides a different playstyle. I don't see what's fun with it
White death become obsolete if not planning to use determined...
Bis sniper still.
out-damaged by M700, which also has bigger mag & clip reload (with PTS changes)
๐ its more about op preference. trying to get a stronger shield on an all red. im just throwing out options that will be strong options for Speed
Okey, so what are fun builds that are not meta? Like for rifles for example?
nego or high end are rifles playground
Something where i could apply UIC MOD2 and it will slap.
I have high end already, with spotter and the gift.
nego top multitarget damage
Not a rifle build but I made a future perfect striker build with btsu, booster hive and fixer drone not long ago
but again, the nego has no survivability. as soon as hyena smg moron will come to me from close range, i am KIA lol
thats more skill related. if you want weapon to slap youll need red cores
and good crit
To be honest, i am "only" 1900 shd but does not matter what kind of build i will run, the combat feels so same to me and i donยดt even know what to run with anymore so i am looking for really different alternatives that would change the pace or how to say it.
one thing you might try is gunner class and wherever you plan to setup throw out some shock traps. any shocktraps that hit an npc will proc any armor on kill without the kill
Wonder if I can also slot that into the future perfect build
you can pretty much have 100% uptime on them too since they enter cooldown as soon as their thrown
I would like more than 1 second stun traps
learn to play full red without any sustain, it'll make the combat feel different
It does not cause i will get snipped by hyena smg dudes from across the map lol.
you can work around that with practice, good cover use & positioning etc
use cover bro
The cover got me killed so many times in this game cause my character is not even properly responsive. I am trying to avoid cover as much as possible to be honest.
we all are familiar with all red builds... its more learning how to not be flanked and also to prioritize the more dangerous targets
it sounds like you want Nego to play just the same way you play striker, but also want the combat to feel different?
Like he sticks to ambulance and he stands up even when i want from him to crouch there, not standing up for example.
Yes exactly Kettle
maybe heartbreaker is a good option ๐ค
Heartbreaker is nice, but i already tried both versions of it. Full red and red/blue.
Use cover without the cover system.
it's a contradiction is what I'm saying - if you want combat to stop feeling the same you HAVE to stop trying to make it so you can play 'the same way'
maybe you dont need dps then. maybe some sort of skill or cc build.. do you group a lot or solo?
To be honest, the best way how to deal with enemies is camp near doors and kill everything with striker asap, but that gets boring so quick.
hotshot sniper maybe (without determined, that gets boring fast)
or Headhunter's fury
Fire eclipse protocol is fun, sadly on my end enemies sometimes completely ignore the status effect. They will do parkour stunts, run for covers, shoot me directly. Mainly rogue agents are completely off the rails
I love the sliding when you foam people and they skirt across the ground
I also saw enemies even in shock like sliding on the ground near cover, it is annoying.
YES RIGHT?? WTF!
happens with elmo shock aswell
weirdest stuff I've ever seen
Maybe if the enemy changed behavior the combat would be different. It does not matter what build i will run, shotgunners will run to me like morons into open and the AI acts same the entire time, does not matter if i am tank, AR guy, rifle guy, sniper
Ongoing directive is also nice with bluescreen but the status effect bleed is so weak sadly
try using some basic CC skills like blinder firefly
kinda hard to help when everything has a fault... but the fact is, every build will have a weakness and its basically on you to learn how to negate those weaknesses
OD is a weird one that you really want sadist on your weapon for the ibg damage buff
Imperial Dynasty has some nice talent, but the cooldown is so large
are we being trolled?
wtf my discord scrolled me up so high
my suggestion is to learn to use some skills that dont need so much skill tiers to be useful
like decoy, shock traps and blinder firefly
use them to distract, cover flanks or stop hoigh threats, clean the rest and then focus on them
I would actually love some skills that would help me do a crowd control so i can flank enemies, like a smoke grenade or something that will put the entire group in confusion or how to say it.
cover is mandatory ,only shield builds really can ignore cover and they sacrifice a lot of damage depending on style
foam launcher
time to start farming for my bullshit backpack again
gunner pulse
wiat new backpac is ou- nah i'm just messing with you
that one is nice, but it lasts for few seconds only sadly.
Lmao yters saying if the patch goes live like this they are uninstalling
Typical division
but why
We won't see some form of these changes for like 2 or more months.
idk what to tell ya then. hope you find the right setup ig... GL ๐ค
thanks
they just couldn't resist to get attention at every second 
Really couldn't tell ya
They are complaining they broke the game
how
could try using picaros holster and osmething else from that same brand to get the +1 skill tier bonus
i guarantee you they wont uninstall and will continue to farm content on NEW BUILD IDEAS
F2000 seems new AR king, CTAR21 also great too
Yea
nope
once you can 1 mag elites, mag size value falls off.
but all the good weapons already reach that with the big mag mod and decent damage build
well yeah because extended magazines are the best option for magazines 9/10
wait i didnt see any weapon buffs in patch notes
It's there
we reach our top DPS mostly because we build crits on top of the extended magazine, never saw someone using AR/SMGs with other mags because they could squeeze enough crits
the pve one or pvp one
on PVE note
PVE me thinks
The pvp one is also PVE
The talent changes are for both they only aren't when it says pvp only
oh mustve missed it
PVE has brands and weapon changes
nope
wtf lmfao
vector wasnt also
guess ima just keep using the king of deeps then
shotguns completely ignored
FAL got whooping 5% damage bonus
surely anything else would make that weapon a monster (yes this is sarcasm)
F2000 definetly appear to be the winner here
well not like AR and SMGs were out of a job
well pistols and shotguns got nothing surprisingly
with Brazos 3rd bonus it become 78 rounds, almost a LMG
Shotguns needed no help anyway
Rifles are definetly the winners in category
and we know nerfs are hard to do this far into the game
just the double barrel i say
and from the shotguns i just see people using the two extremes of M870 for single shot damage or ACS-12 due being full auto with giant mag
the rest in between is very unpopular
Six12 exists
skorpio is on it's own tier cause exotic and busted talent
I think six12(mop) is better than acs if not 200 stack striker
dont see much people running six12 anymore
well lots of people i see just run striker ACS
somethings never really change
it gets recommended alot so that's expected
well striker is get stack fast
it gets stacks fast enough most of the time
I have a question to ask. Is the first Division game a live service or is that just for Division 2?
its not receiving new content
six12 does more damage than an AR at close range so that's what it's used for
i'm not saying it's bad i'm saying i dont see it being used
i understand why ACS is really popular and why lots of people use M870
and people that i find in matchmaking are most of the time using these two
Is anyone else having intermittent issues with online services? Iโve been getting disconnected randomly and sometimes the buttons donโt work. Like Iโll go to shoot and it doesnโt shoot, or go to open a door and it wonโt open
oh nah you're definitely not going to see six12 used in matchmaking
not many people know six12 is strong is all
But is the first game classified as live service? Because they had the season pass and that's it.
game had around 2 years of new content then people moved on to the second game
servers are still and there still some decent population inside the game
well except for scorpio ๐
see those everywhere
scorpio is the only thing people run while six12 is slept on
as i said scorpio is on a tier of it's own
In the PVE patch notes from the PTS i see that there will be new rewards for completing projects. One of the rewards is Crafting Blueprint. Will that be the same as an Reconstructed Cache?
i wish they would just auto expertise everything to max like they did in that PTS 2 or 3 times ago. makes me worried about getting to 24 bc it took me like 12 or 13 sets of all materials maxed out just to get the expertise level from 17 to 24
I don't think so, I suspect just the same pool as CP3&4 blueprints. (Tried one of the projects in the PTS and didn't get any blueprints, I have all the CP ones but only a few of the Descent ones)
Aye too bad ๐ฅฒ
so wait is the PTS gonna open up more things to solo players?
wdym open up more
none of the content is changing
idk legendary, thats the one thing in this game i havent figured out how to solo
by removing shield peeking, it's effectively reduced the number of players who can successfully solo legendary
I just wanna make sure I was right and not spreading misinformation because I don't see the first game as live service.
it was a live service that has ended it's update cycle
I got a bighorn that has stability for third attribute. I def gotta try that and compare it to another one I'll probably put chc on
assuming you can get 4 kills
do nego transfer kills count for future perfect?
nice, pretty easy to unload on a spawn in that case.
Time for negotiator main to use yellow negotiators
real
With overcharge on 5th kill nice
before with the 3kill talent it let you OC after 3rd skilltier, correct? i think someone was saying that a while back
what i was about to ask ๐ฅ
Weapon kills on st6 overcharge
so yeah you could reach overcharge with tier 3 skills on old future perfect
I'm bored I'ma keep making my raid
This is the dream
My tablets at 1% lol
I plugged it in
shit, sounds like a strong hybrid. 30% efficiency on top. short buffs should register yellow cored gained from FP and a second 30% efficiency
And I have a phone
Finally yters can be justified when saying THIS HYBRID BUILD IS NUTS SOLO LEGENDARY
I lost my keyboard
Future perfect doesn't effect shield iirc
Yea it does
Found it I accidentally stepped on it
guess local is gonna test it
I have tried it cuz I used to run a tkb on my tech tank with future perfect
ill have to. i run memento on nego often anyways. sounds kinda dope, ngl
I definitely will be grinding for a mechanical animal if I don't have one in my stash when it comes to the live game
I have some fun ideas for it now 
it might be decent for some sniper builds
Okay I got a better idea for my raid and how it'll work overall
You break in and then once you start the first boss then the timer starts
And you have to go quick to continue to increase the timer
@kind veldt is it fair to expect 2 people to kill a legendary hunter in 20 seconds
Maybe 15?
Timer parts usually are pretty annoying in games to be honest
Skill issue
Yes this whole raid I'm making is thirteen total boss fights with a mandatory 9
That's alot of cc
then no
Scorpio not strong enough
You can't kill a legendary hunter in 20?
On solo player scaling maybe
isn't this 8 players?

Yes but there's more.mechanics
A legendary 8 people scaling hunter??
Basically you'll need to have 2 people running back and forth grabbing fuses and you'll need people to guard them
While they get bombarded by hunters
That hunter would wipe the whole 8 people group probably
Snooze fight
Not one hunter
I was thinking 3
Then feiser is a snooze fight
That's the reason why you should let the raid making to professionals
why is there so much damage increases on the PTS when a majority of weapons need handling improvements?
Less unique
either they really arenโt listening or donโt understand that most weapons could be viable if they had proper handling
What
one of them using scorpio to lock him in place? then yes
I mean that won't last very long
is there any benefit in having a clan?
Clan caches and clan vendor. Other than that not really tbh
what about the clans daily missions? what is that for?
Whats the backpack that gives you the added skill level and/or additional talents
do i have to start from zero for PTS?
no
No Orobourus or Iron Lung in PTS?
how does one get their progression to pts?
Ubi does that for you, they take a snapshot of your account and then insert it into PTS
my PTS is only a couple SHD levels off from the Live Server in PTS
they seemed to snapshot progression of a couple days ago
i can check again but i got ouro carried over just fine
i didnt have one prior
but the Vendor Caches do not have them
usually in PTS they have EVERYTHING
rip
New Name for the Table - "Tinkering Station"
does having steam version mess up the snapshot?
idek if steam has pts
oh ok thanks anyways
if he links his Ubi to it, it should give him PTS
since its PC, and as i read it, ALL PC Copies of Div2 have PTS
i had to flip my Ubi Connect to BETA mode to get it to reveal itself under "My Games"
So, any controversies w/ the PTS that people are melting down over yet?
i'm noticing just the gear switch lock in combat
Not being able to switch gear so far
sees two CCs make a patch notes video
one is nearly and hour the other is 30 minutes ๐ญ
yeah that one is bad
rest of my thoughts are just questioning lack of buffs to some smaller things that everyone has been pointing out for ages
like sweet dreams talent, FAL just sucking, semi auto MMR not getting any buffs despite sacrum being literally right there as hot topic and couple others
I mean, it's only phase 1 of 2 for PTS's, the point of these is to suggest changes.
remember folks: it's called a public test server for a reason
well i did write a couple of them already in a nice manner
i mean 10/10 work for rifle category
some ARs getting damage and magazine bonus while fal just gets a 5% is definetly a bruh moment
thatโs the one hit melee any none elite enemy right
yeah
w exotic tbh
i hope they remove this hotswap limit. there's no reason you shouldnt be able to switch out your guns while in combat. armor pieces makes a little more sense to limit but still dumb.
just throw some extra spice like confusing named and elites and a status bonus for doing so
The problem with the Sandman Talent is that it necessitates melee range, which div2 just kinda isn't designed for.
What would you change it to?
that would be pretty cool
Watch Dogs is in the same universe as TD and Black Tusk represent CtOS
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That makes no sense, but you're welcome to have fan fiction I guess.
Untitled Goose Game and SHD both uses a bird for their logo.
add on top of what we have: hitting an elite/named/player gives them confused stat (aka big concussion from being hit in the head and has a cooldown same as melee kill), if you hit an enemy with melee you get 50% bonus armor or some other buff (50% rof bonus, full reload on all guns, movement speed bonus, extra bodyshot damage)
where's the crossover MSV?
No no the similarities aren't just "birds", they are the same diamond with the same cube in the same spot
So they both like baseball?
i mean ubi studios share a lot of base and concept art
So it's now a boss burning weapon, which can do it better than any other talent ingame?
honestly iโd home run a boss in the head ๐ญ
but then get instadowned