#td2-general-chat

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azure lintel
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In a roundabout, overly waffly way, I'm saying that most Countdown randoms are pretty bad at the game and need to be told where to go and what to shoot

stiff reef
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Any news on Heartland bro?

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haha dang real time right there lol

astral jacinth
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I think Ouroboros is 1% drop rate

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for the weekly key

frozen meadow
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10% from the chest

oak prawn
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I've experienced my fairshare

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But lately I've been getting people who know what to do and dont need to ve babysat

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Like a chicken with its head cut off

kind veldt
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Well basic game advice has become, go grind new build there

azure lintel
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Pretty much!

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It's so non-linear though, the amount of choice involved leads into the idea that folks can decide their own routes

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Which absolutely isn't true

green eagle
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how the heck do some people have a SHD level of like 39,403?

kind veldt
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Exploits, weird grinds

unique summit
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Good. You show 'em what's what. If we're lucky they'll uninstall and never come back again. Then we can run around DC all by ourselves!

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It's usually 1-2 new people that go for VIP. Instead of kicking people you can just do the next objective with the majority of the group (those 1-2 won't be much help anyway) and eventually they'll figure it out when they wipe.

frozen meadow
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I say in chat no vip

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Then I say I'll kick people who go vip and give 60 seconds + 2 more warnings to respond

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Then I'll kick someone and wait about 10 seconds to see if they go to the exit

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If they don't then I kick everyone else

unique summit
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Or you can just help w/ VIP... it's not a big deal or worth kicking people over.

carmine ember
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it is now time for me to go back to my strategy of... hide behind cover and let machines do the work for me

frozen meadow
carmine ember
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ahhh the wonders of technology

distant valve
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Yo I have a question, if I make new character then unlock the watch can I then use my points into materials then to go back onto my main to +1 my armour on my gear

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Because Farming materials is so long and I can’t keep up with all my sets

hybrid ore
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Proficiency in Expertise is account wide, so yeah you can use WONY runs to get bonus mats.

distant valve
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But all materials will also be on my main or no ?

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@hybrid ore

azure lintel
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I dunno, the more I think about it the more I don't like it.
If I had every mistake I've made in this game, negatively reinforced by being kicked over it then I would've spent more time in the menu than playing
Some folks just like to be educated, and given a chance to make decisions for themselves rather than being put on the naughty step like a child

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And I suppose, to put some sort of perspective to it, if they were doing that in a raid or an incursion then absolutely. Get'em out. Countdown is a bit lower of a barrier to entry than that, I don't know if there should be much policing of how people do it.
I see a lot of folks getting kicked at the lobby for their loadout choices too. It's not supposed to be taken too seriously

full zinc
frozen meadow
full zinc
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i find when there are clans with a few members in the match they do sht like that

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but usually i just call out objectives and for the most part everyone gets on board.. otherwise i do like Kes, let them do their thing and wipe while the rest of the group finishes out...

hybrid ore
full zinc
hybrid ore
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Oh that's a nice feature, cheers 'deck.

full zinc
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yeah its how the wony runs work if doing it for a quick watch

hybrid ore
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@azure lintel I honestly can't disagree. The quickest way to kill off a player-base is to frighten away newbies trying to join in.

full zinc
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kicking is definitly a heroic cd thing. you rarely see it in challenging

frozen meadow
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It's insane

full zinc
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maybe they dont like being told what to do so direct and do it out of spite

frozen meadow
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Then I kick them

full zinc
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then its an empty match and probably a fail

frozen meadow
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Don't care

full zinc
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i do it to rack up exo, so i just keep it moving regardless.

unique summit
azure lintel
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There's a pretty major misunderstanding going on there, about how someone might react to not knowing better about something, simply not having the information others do, and instead of being told 'yeah don't go VIP for reasons' the majority will find they didn't really know. I didn't until a couple of weeks ago.
You won't find many folks going, "oh well, on to the next one" and brushing it off, because that's not really how people work. I wish you took the time to be a bit nicer though Eevee, it costs nothing and you might need some goodwill back when you happen to not know something others do

hybrid ore
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This reminds me of a match I had today in an online game.
one guy got on voice comms and decided that he was General Patton, trying to micro-manage the entire team and screaming at people if they didn't follow every instruction.

unique summit
frozen meadow
hybrid ore
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People like that are about 1/3rd of the reason that my voice chat is almost always turned off for good in online games.

azure lintel
frozen meadow
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Tell me what to do and I'll do it. If I can't do it that's my fault

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Pretty simple to me

unique summit
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If people are going for VIP then they obviously don't know what to do yet. They might not even know what you're talking about.

hybrid ore
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Or they just enjoy doing it and haven't had the problems some others have had.

frozen meadow
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I can assure you 7 people over shd 500 should all know

unique summit
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???

frozen meadow
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And with good builds

azure lintel
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That's rough, honestly

unique summit
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In that case - if they know what they're doing and they're deciding to for VIP then welcome to group play. Support the team. Or yea kick everyone and stand around the power plant all by yourself.

hybrid ore
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Assuming that everyone is on the same page at all times is quite silly, especially with the variations in age/experience/grasp on the english language/level of intoxication/etc, etc all factoring in to understanding what you are saying.

frozen meadow
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That's what I'll do

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Kick and then make a new game

unique summit
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👎

frozen meadow
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Not worth wasting the already dead run

full zinc
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in that case wouldnt it be better just to leave and start a new match?

unique summit
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If I had 10 thumbs they'd all be pointing down right now.

frozen meadow
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What

full zinc
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whats confusing

unique summit
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I only have 2 thumbs and they're both pointing down. I wish I had to 10 so they can all be pointing down.

frozen meadow
unique summit
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You do realize VIP is an objective... in the game... lol

full zinc
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no you kick everyone then leave per your admission

frozen meadow
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Yes

hybrid ore
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It seems that the common factor here is you then. Why not just leave instead of making people's day a little bit worse?

unique summit
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^ this

frozen meadow
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Because I'm also saving them the trouble

azure lintel
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Exactly. It's what you specifically want. You don't get it, so you make that issue involve everyone else that just decided not to play how you wanted them to play

frozen meadow
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I'm not being unreasonable

azure lintel
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You don't seem fun to play with, at all. Really not enjoying your comments, at all

full zinc
hybrid ore
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Eevee, if you're so into Countdown being run like a well oiled machine with no mistakes and the team doing exactly what you want, why not just run private games? I'm sure there are others out there who feel the same way as you do.

frozen meadow
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I can't spawn them out of nowhere rivens

hybrid ore
frozen meadow
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Tried it nobody responds lol

hybrid ore
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No offense meant here, but do you understand why people might not want to join a team when it's run like this?

frozen meadow
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What

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I started doing this after not being able to lfg

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Not before

unique summit
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This isn't a huge game. We need to be welcoming and friendly to people who join so it can grow a bit... or at least not decline as fast. The only thing people will "learn" from your actions is that maybe it's better to not queue.

frozen meadow
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This is heroic not challenging

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It's completely reasonable to expect gatekeeping

azure lintel
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Every time I've hosted a Countdown and looked at an iffy build, thought there was a possibility they might hold the run back, I remember how neat it might be for them to get a chance to do something slightly better. To learn how to do something a bit more efficiently.
The VIP being a tangible option you can run to, means it's fair game. Even as host, honestly, it's not even really your call to tell people where to go

frozen meadow
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I'll only kick people with a skill build or disorganized items

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Or if they go vip

full zinc
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or when they cross you and go vip

hybrid ore
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I've got to head off for a bit, y'all play nice while I'm gone. I don't wanna see modmail logs about this.

frozen meadow
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Lol

full zinc
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🤣

frozen meadow
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Like I understand your point but

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This is heroic not challenging

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It's completely reasonable that I gatekeep and expect experience

unique summit
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Yea... all I do is play heroic. Every session I'll have multiple runs. I must have multiple thousands at this point. I don't even remember when "6 people" went for VIP - it must have been like months ago if at all.

What I think you're doing is kicking the 1-2 people that occasionally go for VIP and embellishing the story to "6 people". Sorry but that straight up doesn't happen or, if it does, it's super rare. Having a blanket kick policy over something so rare doesn't make sense.

frozen meadow
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What you think I'm doing is not what I'm doing

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@opal radish can vouch

full zinc
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a good player would be able to work around some not up to par players /builds/decisions

unique summit
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Exactly. In my sessions we occasionally have someone go VIP and we just ignore that person. Eventually they'll figure it out and join the rest of the group.

full zinc
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its not like its legendary

frozen meadow
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We will literally have like 6 people go vip and mess up the run

unique summit
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Lies.

azure lintel
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I keep writing mean things and deleting them. Sorry, I can't handle how you act towards others and instead of being the same way, I'm going to disengage
Have a lovely evening folks ❤️

frozen meadow
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Why in hell would I lie about that

unique summit
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To make your reasoning more plausible.

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In reality it's 1-2 people and you know it.

full zinc
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have a good one @azure lintel 🍻

frozen meadow
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Gogamer can literally vouch for me lmao

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He's been there and seen it firsthand

unique summit
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I'm not saying it never happens. I'm saying it's so exceptionally rare that it's not even worth dealing with. If that actually happens (once in a blue moon) then who cares. Just do VIP or leave the lobby and go next.

frozen meadow
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You don't have to agree with me that's just what I do

exotic blaze
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Are you at least asking people not to go to VIP first before kicking?

unique summit
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I know and I obviously can't stop you from doing that. I'm just letting you know that it's making the community look bad. You can ignore that but now you know it.

frozen meadow
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I'm not crazy

exotic blaze
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Meh I still say leave the group or just suck it up

frozen meadow
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I just don't want other people to have to deal with that

exotic blaze
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If others don't like it they can choose what they want to do

quasi verge
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It's nice how the conversation has migrated into how much better/nicer/more adaptable you all are than Eevee, while at the same time reverse gatekeeping them and telling them they can't play that way.

frozen meadow
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Lol

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I'm not doing it out of sheer malice

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Like I didn't use to kick people right before extract

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Tryna make heroic CD a better place to farm

quasi verge
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I'm three weeks new. IF someone told me not to do a thing in a group I just joined, I would definitely not do that thing. I'd appreciate the guidance, especially if it came with reasons. I'd expect to have problems if I went ahead and did that thing anyway. Provided Eevee gives a proper warning before things start, which it sounds like they do, I see no problem booting people who are ruining things for those who do listen.

frozen meadow
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I give 3 or 4 warnings before booting

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Just randomly kicking people doesn't accomplish anything

quasi verge
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IF it turns out the majority of the group is potatoes (and I've had enough experience with gaming and running clans and grouping and what not over the years to know it does happen fairly often, especially in PUGs) then yeah, I might choose to pull the rip cord myself and try again later, but I might also try to get the maybe one or two people still trying to some sort of reasonable end point in spite of potatoes.

frozen meadow
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I just want people to understand that I'm being harsh as a teaching moment

quasi verge
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All that being said, I don't believe anyone is coming into CD as a total newbie to the game. Pretty sure you can't actually queue up until you have some experience under your belt. So the argument about scaring people off the game as a whole is, as far as I can tell, invalid.

tropic breach
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gg game crashes.

quasi verge
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If you get booted from a group in CD for whatever reason, you don't tear up the game and go home. You line up for some other content or queue again and take your chances.

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It's perfectly legitimate to go after VIP in CD. You want to, go for it. But it is not perfectly legit to do it in someone else's group after they have already warned you off it. That's disrespectful.

full zinc
# frozen meadow I just don't want other people to have to deal with that

so, if there is generally 6 ppl in your groups that chose to goto vip, wouldnt it kinda reason that those 6 might want to deal with that?.. with all the kicks basically ruining the match, you would save yourself time by just leaving the "doomed" match and starting another. you at least wouldnt get the same group of people

frozen meadow
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I'm also letting them know that what they did isn't appreciated

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And saving them the trouble of the doomed session as well

twilit stag
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i have a full set of Negotiator so i guess ill give it a try, not crazy excited about it, the gameplay of "tage 3 enemies" i feel liek its going to get me killed with ease

full zinc
frozen meadow
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It was already doomed

full zinc
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its counter productive. if they fail on their own and see vip is a waste they are more likely not to do it

frozen meadow
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Quicker to kick

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I'm not letting them waste their time

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Hi rivens

hybrid ore
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This trend I've seen lately of "teaching" people is kind of weird.
hey Eevee. div2wave

frozen meadow
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Wdym lately

twilit stag
full zinc
frozen meadow
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As group lead I have the power and choose to teach with it

twilit stag
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this sounds like "I cant be toxic in Raids because people are not into that much so imma take it to CD instead"

quasi verge
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Do you, perchance, message them later and explain why they got kicked?

frozen meadow
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They know because I say don't go VIP or I'll kick

frozen meadow
quasi verge
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That's not how teaching works though, Eevee.

twilit stag
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i dont even know wtf that means, you think people think super hard about Countdown? please you just go wherever is quickest, is a no brain afk activity

frozen meadow
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Vip = kick
Them -> vip
Them = kick cuz them = vip

I don't think I understand wym

full zinc
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this is a very controlling mentality... io think you would get a lot further by not saying what they shouldnt do, but instead calling out the other objectives. catch more flies with honey than vinegar

twilit stag
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you think people sit there 15 mins before quequein thinking of the best possible strategy for countdown, nope, Imma watch Netflx and do this in the meanwhile, thats the main mindset

frozen meadow
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It doesn't take much mental strength to not go somewhere

neon wyvern
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imagine wasting 5 minutes running to admin from containment instead of going to the vip in turbinepetter

frozen meadow
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It doesn't take 5 minutes to run from admin to containment?

hybrid ore
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It really should, Agents carry a lot of bullets.

frozen meadow
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lol

neon wyvern
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you would've finished vip faster then you would've finished the other mission due to time spent running

frozen meadow
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no?

neon wyvern
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yes

frozen meadow
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That's the whole reason you don't go vip lmao

neon wyvern
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it's horrible

frozen meadow
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It's way slower to go vip

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Lol

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Like 3-4 minutes slower

hybrid ore
neon wyvern
frozen meadow
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Yes?

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It doesn't take 3-4 minutes to walk to the other objective

full zinc
frozen meadow
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You should ideally finish first objective by the 9-10 minute mark

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With vip it's around 6-7

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And you should always leave at least 5 min for the main objective

neon wyvern
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And that's not vips fault

frozen meadow
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A good team doesn't go vip .-.

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Yes it 100% is

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Wave count is too high

neon wyvern
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I get 6 min vip solo💀

hybrid ore
neon wyvern
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no way that happens in decent groups

frozen meadow
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You did vip in 6 minutes?

neon wyvern
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no

frozen meadow
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Hold on are you referring to challenging or heroic

neon wyvern
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using pfe striker build I solo vip near when the timer reaches 6-7 mins

twilit stag
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tbh the solution to the problem is alwayas the same, if you want something done in a specific way, then dont random que and take only people who are on the same page and have the goals clear

neon wyvern
frozen meadow
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ok

neon wyvern
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not like I beat the whole countdown but I did that one run for fun

frozen meadow
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So do you have any metric for groups or

full zinc
twilit stag
tropic breach
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this is sad, constant game crash everytime CD is ready for heli signal.

neon wyvern
twilit stag
frozen meadow
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Thompson I think you're exaggerating

neon wyvern
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as usual

hybrid ore
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As someone who can't use a mic, more options for non-verbal communication would be really nice.
even just an enemy ping is something I feel would fit in so well that it would feel like it's always been ingame.

and yeah VIP is pretty dang quick, do it if you want, don't if you don't. But maybe don't kick 3/4's of your team over it.

frozen meadow
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You don't have to agree with me shrug

twilit stag
kind veldt
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just basic commands that could appear on the chat could be useful

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that are not emotes, thoi i have seen plenty of people using flare to draw attention

neon wyvern
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need division 2 quickchat

hybrid ore
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Vermintide 2 has a good balance for this, although more pings would be nice seeing as how tactical div2 is compared to a horde game.
"kill thing", "go here" "do thing"
there we go, that's all about what we'd need to get started.

tropic breach
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does using all red build on a CD give more chance to drop all red items? vice versa to other color builds.

frozen meadow
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No

neon wyvern
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lol

twilit stag
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well i shouldnt call them tanking, Division 2 doesnt have real tanking sadly 😭 more like survive 0.7 more seconds than a full red build

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i really hope Div 3 makes tanking a real thing, i usually prefer that over dpsing

neon wyvern
twilit stag
neon wyvern
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Not dieing is easy

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but yeah the aggro is hard

frozen meadow
neon wyvern
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this games threat system goes against "pure tanks"

frozen meadow
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Especially with protection from elites

frozen meadow
kind veldt
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it has tank but they dont have aggro mechanics

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which bothers me to no end

neon wyvern
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that could've been a decoy variant

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possibly

kind veldt
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no it should have been a base feature of using a shield

neon wyvern
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crusader shield users crying

kind veldt
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first game had that

unique summit
# quasi verge It's perfectly legitimate to go after VIP in CD. You want to, go for it. But it ...

This is the misunderstanding. Eevee is acting like the group belongs to her and everyone agreed to her terms beforehand. That's really not how it works with CD lobbies. There is no "leader" in a CD lobby because it's 8 random people matchmaking together. It's precisely why raid groups cannot be matchmaked by the way; in raids you need structure/roles and to achieve that you need to organize the group ahead of time.

Let's be real here. VIP is no big deal. I've never once seen a CD fail because VIP took to long (that wouldn't have otherwise failed anyway). The reason this "no vip" thing became a meme is CD used to fail much more often due to unoptimized builds and people not knowing what to do. VIP made the whole thing worse because a group that would just barely make it now actually had a chance to fail. When Eevee kicks half the lobby for going VIP it's to save a few minutes and nothing more.

It's no different than kicking people for low SHD score and no other reason. Yes, you have the power to do it because you're the lobby leader. That doesn't make it a good thing to do.

And again this whole "6 people went VIP" story is a over-the-top nonsense. I'm a heroic CD no-lifer and it's incredibly rare. If you were to run heroic CD 10 times per day then 1 out of those 10 you'd have a single person (at most two) go VIP and eventually realize they're in the wrong place.

frozen meadow
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There is a leader in a CD lobby what

unique summit
twilit stag
frozen meadow
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Confess what

unique summit
kind veldt
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leader in CD is more of placeholder title that comes from the system than actually a person of authority but i odnt wnat to go on this mess of CD kikcing shenanigans

unique summit
neon wyvern
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usually being the first to trigger an objective will make the lobby follow you

frozen meadow
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But that's what happens

unique summit
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If you have a specific way you want people to play it and plan to kick them for not doing it then tell them before starting the lobby.

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And make sure they all agree. But you won't do that? Why? Because you need 7 randos to join you and help you finish it.

quasi verge
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shrugs.

unique summit
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It sure would be inconvenient to sit there and get everyone agree to your plan.

frozen meadow
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not doing that, it should be general knowledge not to go vip

quasi verge
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I said my bit and now I'm moving on. No need to @ me further.

unique summit
kind veldt
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Should beserk make a comeback as a blue gear set focused on health tank?

frozen meadow
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what

frozen meadow
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like taking exotics dropped on the ground for someone else

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the game doesnt communicate thats a bad idea but youre a jerk if you do it

unique summit
kind veldt
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people play enough that a understanding forms from people doing same things over and over again

twilit stag
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Yet Dark Zone exists, this game is the Oposite of good Morality by design xD a literal Game mode that rewards you for griefing

neon wyvern
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Dark zone is anarchy wasteland

kind veldt
neon wyvern
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ofc it's gonna be like that

neon wyvern
twilit stag
# kind veldt pretty sure point is not being made about DZ

You cant be Nice sometimes and be awful others, you're either a good or a bad person, thats what i mean, and by design because of the dark zone the game is kinda designed in a way where its cool to kill people and steal all their crap

kind veldt
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you know how in certain missions because people already played enough to know to not stay in certain bad spots with no cover? apply same logic to people playing countdown and seeing that VIP take longer to do than avarage and just decide to not do it, there is not formal agreement anywhere but it kinda become a hive mind

unique summit
quasi verge
kind veldt
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yeah and the context is that if someone got an exotic in a mission and the other guy asks for it because he doesnt have it, you swiping when dude drops on the ground to share makes you an poopyhead, you are reading the wrong thing about the wrong subject

carmine ember
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there is trading in this game?

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maybe im reading too much into that

kind veldt
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just trading recently got items with people who were there when you got it

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you can drop in the ground for others

full zinc
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i still stick by what i said earlier... if its a lobby that isnt following your orders, leave them to their own devices.. ruining a lobby because youre mad noone listened is frankly kinda childish

carmine ember
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ahhhh, that's fair and actually a good system

twilit stag
unique summit
kind veldt
neon wyvern
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just stand by the exotic and pick it up when another approaches

full zinc
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lmao fr

unique summit
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D2 community is built different

carmine ember
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im currently attempting to figure out where the hell to go next in the game

unique summit
neon wyvern
carmine ember
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im level 18 lol, i dont think that would work

twilit stag
neon wyvern
carmine ember
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level 18

neon wyvern
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ok so there's still story missions

full zinc
carmine ember
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yeah there's story missions but the closest one to my level is 4 levels above me

kind veldt
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some people consider going after VIP on purpose due being the worst objective in countdown being rude on purpose

carmine ember
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i think taking something that isn't meant to be yours is a bad thing, actually

neon wyvern
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Fr fr ong?

kind veldt
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that is all, if you agree or not it's up to you but it's a weird consensus that i see people doing

twilit stag
carmine ember
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is there a good way to farm experience... like, repetitively? i wouldnt mind doing some grinding

kind veldt
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thing is, you cant know if that person is being dumbass on purpose or not, so if you are tired of someone repeating mistakes then dont be surprised if kick happens wether you believe that was justified or not for yourself

kind veldt
carmine ember
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oooh yeah ive been. neglecting those

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that would probably be why i am so far behind level wise

kind veldt
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definetly worth it, having all gun mods is extremely useful

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and i cant remember which one gives decent ones so just go around doing that

carmine ember
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i just wanna get to the point in the game where i can start buildcrafting

neon wyvern
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It's random

carmine ember
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i love buildcrafting!!!!

quasi verge
neon wyvern
carmine ember
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yeah but im not most people im an idiot and i will start buildcrafting as soon as i can

kind veldt
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yeah control points are random drops

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well once you got a blueprint from a control point it's removed from the pool so just keep doing them and you will get all of them for sure

carmine ember
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right now i just want to figure out a way to play that i enjoy somewhat

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or at least enjoy enough to grind with

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ive been compulsively switching between my playstyles depending on what i have available at the moment in time

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to be honest, facetanking things with the bulwark shield is definitely one of my favourite playstyles because i am a very aggressive player in most games haha

rapid flame
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@blissful anvil yo did you ever play on PSN?

azure lintel
twilit stag
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oh wow, i dont hate Negotiator Nearly as much as i expected i would, kinda ass with Ouroboros tho, because the whole Gotta get close because SMG and all of that

azure lintel
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I'm a good Grupo chest and a couple of decent Flatline ARs away from a Nego build, keep hearing great things about it. I bet it absolutely shreds in Countdown

neon wyvern
kind veldt
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i mena being able to shoot three different people is very good

delicate lodge
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It’s good

neon wyvern
azure lintel
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Let me shoot everyone

twilit stag
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I mean in theory if you hit for 500K with negotiator's you're doing 1.5 mil each crit

delicate lodge
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You just need to know how to control enemy aggro

twilit stag
#

500k 3 times

neon wyvern
unique summit
azure lintel
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Yeah, I imagine the others would probably prefer flat deeps instead

neon wyvern
#

Even on warhounds where nego can pierce the invincibility shield and armor. Warhounds also have so much health on cd

twilit stag
#

i need a Grupo chest piece for my nego tho, i only have ceska and im wasting way too much Crit chance

unique summit
neon wyvern
#

you can tag a hunter and try to use closer ads to do damage to it

#

Sometimes it stops them armor kitting

twilit stag
#

i have 193 crit damage + Coyote's but why have 193 when i could have 208 🤤

delicate lodge
#

I mean people just need to know how to do different dps builds for different tactics

azure lintel
#

To be fair, my strength is in my raw DPS but I'm in the phase of wanting to do a bunch of new stuff
Just finished my first full healer incursion run, 17m. I want to keep learning that, and try some other builds too

carmine ember
azure lintel
delicate lodge
#

Striker gear set lol

carmine ember
kind veldt
#

there is more to life than only striker 24/7

delicate lodge
#

Drone will get hacked in countdown and you might get cursed out from other players

twilit stag
#

Striker's battlegear, pretty much the only DPS Meta Gearset currently, kinda sad but yeah

delicate lodge
azure lintel
unique summit
#

Yea that's great. Countdown unfortunately is very narrow game design. CC or DPS is pretty much all you need. Incursion is better for variety. Legendary missions even more so. Raids are the straight up best for really putting interesting builds to good use.

delicate lodge
#

The game doesn’t know how to calculate damage you receive so I stopped playing glass cannon

kind veldt
#

lots of things work fine, no question that striker is meta but people need to stop threating everything else so badly when it isnt

delicate lodge
azure lintel
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I find the meta is even narrower in Incursion. It's pretty much three builds, and two of them are just variants

unique summit
azure lintel
#

Striker DPS, Striker Sledge/Knuckles, Healer. Don't even bother showing up with anything else

unique summit
twilit stag
#

Div 1 had more variety right, when it came to Endgame, it wasnt Classy Striker only and everything else sucked

delicate lodge
kind veldt
azure lintel
#

I saw a clanmate do the oxy turrets thing, couldn't figure out what it was but it was pretty neat they landed it from so far back (they were chilling at the gazebo)

kind veldt
#

not that everything is bad, just those 3 are really busted

unique summit
#

There's also using a tank for the second stage boss. But that's mostly as a contingency in case the tanker is almost dead.

azure lintel
delicate lodge
#

Full stack oxi on hunters on floor 100 is the coolest way to kill em

kind veldt
#

few content has you shooting really tanky targets over mobs to make striker really outpace everything

azure lintel
delicate lodge
#

That’s just a coping mechanism people say for the build

azure lintel
#

Be careful what you wish for though. Thankful it's not 2019 again and all you can hear are Bakers/M1As chunking down range

kind veldt
#

striker does it job of single target DPS which is focus of bosses in incursion and raids so makes sense

#

i mean i want a rifle gear set so that might make a comeback

delicate lodge
#

Hot shot and aces

unique summit
kind veldt
#

and it's not really like rifles got nerfed, other things got better or new weapons got added that make other things better

delicate lodge
hybrid ore
delicate lodge
#

Strikers is just comfortable to play with

kind veldt
#

and pistols, goddanm i just want a pistol gear set since the first game

delicate lodge
azure lintel
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I think I'm going to go a full week with my Providence/Fox/Eagle Bearer build from back in the day. Just have a bit more fun, DPS numbers at the end screen be damned

hybrid ore
kind veldt
delicate lodge
azure lintel
#

Negotiators with a rifle potentially?

carmine ember
#

what does strikers do?

twilit stag
#

I wish Div 2 had the ultimate skills like Div 1 had instead of the crappy signature weapons, ngl i forget signature weapons exist at all, i never ever use them, they are just wasted, and for what i can see in group play is very rare to see someone pull them out

kind veldt
azure lintel
delicate lodge
kind veldt
azure lintel
twilit stag
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Aces should be a rifle Gearset, idk, i just think it has more of a Rifle vibe to it

hybrid ore
#

bird is right, the weapons have nothing to do with each other.
and saying that they count for MMRs is just misleading.

azure lintel
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Aces should be a rifle gear set. It treads a little too much on Hotshot imo

delicate lodge
hybrid ore
#

Aces was around a lot longer than Hotshot was, if anything it should be the other way around.

kind veldt
#

and aces was a very busted support set originally

delicate lodge
#

It was sarcasm but nobody got on it l…

hybrid ore
azure lintel
#

It was, but of the two (if you asked which one was slightly more portable than the other), then I would say I'd feel better with Aces as a rifle gear set instead of Hotshot

kind veldt
#

mostly because the just took damage and made it big for hotshot

hybrid ore
kind veldt
#

i mean just rewokring Aces to proc on rifles and pistols would work

twilit stag
#

from what i can see, Nego in fact seems to be the fastest clearing Open world stuff in heroic 🤔 Hostages and stuff go by super fast, even quicker than EP

delicate lodge
hybrid ore
#

That doesn't mean anything.

azure lintel
kind veldt
#

negotiator for mob cleaning very well

azure lintel
delicate lodge
kind veldt
#

well aces is kinda "good" for semi auto snipers like dread edict over hotshot

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while hot shot for big damage ones like white death and other exotics

hybrid ore
#

You could just say that you are being sarcastic.
and this is besides the point, Rifles can get a future gearset, as we are getting new ones all the time that fill in niches we've never had before.
Heck, even Hunters Fury was added post-launch.

kind veldt
#

so there is still a case for both being for snipers but slighty different variations like striker and heartbreaker

#

really didnt thing of lonestar as a shotgun set in the first game

#

was it was clearly very biased towards LMGs

hybrid ore
#

Don't forget: Coyotes was only added with WONY. Life before that was very different for crit builds.

delicate lodge
kind veldt
#

well before WONY all talents and gear were very different

hybrid ore
#

DeadEYE is the obvious answer, but make it work for Rifles.

carmine ember
#

hmm. i sure do hope enemies can't start hacking my machines. that would be a shame

azure lintel
#

It was Providence/Airaldi, and that's it. I don't think I used any exotics

kind veldt
#

well you either focus on making them have great stats by sheer buffs like bonus for headshots or certain contional stuff

hybrid ore
#

Rifles are already mostly crit based as-is, so making them more focused around crit is sort of the simple answer to this whole thing.

delicate lodge
#

We need new skills as well

#

But that would be cliche

kind veldt
#

or add some big utility like guaranteed crits or being able to shoot through multiple enemies

#

i do think certain mechanics such as napalm, and more defensive skills could be added

delicate lodge
kind veldt
#

like a hive that protects you from granades

hybrid ore
#

That is actually DeadEYE, the guaranteed crits part.

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just whilst in cover.

kind veldt
#

specializations are whole other can of worms i could rant about for hours

hybrid ore
#

When zoomed in, Marksman rifles lose headshot bonus, but gain 50% Critical Hit Chance while out of cover and 100% Critical Hit Chance while in cover.
the t6 bonus is just more chd and stability.

azure lintel
#

I've thought about a massive railgun sort of weapon that could overpenetrate. Realised I was probably just trying to recreate Lorentz Driver in Division 2

kind veldt
#

tac-50 can already do that, we had an exotic that also did that

azure lintel
#

Yuck, TAC-50

hybrid ore
#

Nemesis can penetrate enemies, unless it's been nerfed down.

kind veldt
#

it cant

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i dont think it ever did

azure lintel
#

No I don't think it can either

kind veldt
#

was talking about old dodge city holster that gave you piercing shots when you got an headshot kill back in the day

hybrid ore
#

I'm almost certain I've shot through more than one enemy with it before.
might've just been them getting clipped.

kind veldt
#

it was great with old liberty

delicate lodge
azure lintel
#

I really wish there was a proper stats system in this game. I think Nemesis is still the weapon I'd have the most kills with

kind veldt
#

explode an enemy weakpoin, pop their head, get piercing shots, now you blow up enemy backpacks by shooting center mass and getting the damage bonus from liberty again

delicate lodge
#

Just did a lot of damage,

But tac did that to like 3 ppl on headshots

hybrid ore
#

Sure tac50 then, either way.

#

Nemesis makes more sense though, since it's more akin to a railgun.

delicate lodge
#

It’s just meant to kill people

#

Not a raily

azure lintel
#

I wish I could change the sound though. Sure, it has a suppressor on it and sure, it's not a standard ballistic weapon and SURE it's just a game, but it's got such a weak firing sound

hybrid ore
#

It literally has a charging mechanic.
and what on earth is a raily.

delicate lodge
#

You

hybrid ore
#

I'm a raily?

delicate lodge
#

Indeed

azure lintel
#

Yeah, he's just trying to pick a fight. Cool, good work buddy

#

Proud of you, well done.

delicate lodge
hybrid ore
#

Then explain why you called me a "raily".

delicate lodge
#

Cause idky what a raily is

azure lintel
#

Picking holes in all Rivens' comments for the last 10-15m is picking a fight. 100%

kind veldt
#

hm... need to workshop the ocncept of guaranteed crits a bit better

azure lintel
#

Really wish messaging Yannick wasn't bannable. I just want to be able to ask him to implement a proper API in D3

kind veldt
#

since we already have that one diamondback

hybrid ore
#

I'm used to people targeting me for no particular reason, but cmon at least think of something that makes sense.

kind veldt
#

thought once of an exotic M16 that every third shot that hit would be a guaranteed crit that added your headshot damage % as crit damage

hybrid ore
#

anyway, excited for the DLC. Been a long time since we visited Brooklyn.

azure lintel
delicate lodge
twilit stag
kind veldt
hybrid ore
#

Destiny is crossing over with every other franchise right now, it'll be our turn by 2025.

kind veldt
#

cause i dont understand the crossover part of my idea

azure lintel
delicate lodge
#

Destiny is in need of help as they’ve made horrible decisions recently

So they need all the crossovers they can get

kind veldt
#

well i was thinking of that for rifles not snipers

azure lintel
twilit stag
hybrid ore
#

I was a regular in des2 from Mars release up until the smallening, and honestly the support for div2 has been more emotionally consistent.

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and yes that includes the 2 years of blank we got.

undone timber
#

I was interested in checking out destiny then saw there’s about a billion expansions and dlc packs

hybrid ore
#

And the old ones are taken away from you after a while.

undone timber
#

WHAT?

azure lintel
#

Someone higher up at Ubi fell out of love with Division 2, and it showed. I hope that person has either come to their senses or left the company

delicate lodge
#

2024 around August should be decent for d2 to get back on their feet

hybrid ore
#

Say what you like about WONY's campaign, but MSV have never tried to pull that off.

delicate lodge
hybrid ore
undone timber
#

So you pay to get content and they can just revoke it

twilit stag
# undone timber WHAT?

that;s not the crazy part, the crazy part is how a big chunk of the community support that, they literally took away forever paid expansions, not only the content itself but the story and everything else, they got thanos snapped out of existence and a lot of people think that was healthy and a wonderful thing for the game

undone timber
#

So you cant even replay any of it

#

Who in their right mind man

kind veldt
#

game was too big so to keep it afloat they cut part of the ship of to replace with new parts

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so old parts were well, just gone

delicate lodge
hybrid ore
#

It was such a good move that literally every person in my clan left des2 forever because of it.

#

raid speedrunners the lot of us.

delicate lodge
#

Game would be at least 400+gb right now

azure lintel
#

The FOMO in that game is about as bad as I've ever experienced. I wasn't a player or a customer, I was a social experiment to see how much I could take

carmine ember
#

it was a good move because the game would be completely bloody massive and unoptimised

undone timber
#

At that point couldnt they just split it into configurable downloads

carmine ember
#

they take out the old content and give it new content

kind veldt
#

problem is

hybrid ore
#

They take out old content and make you pay to get the new content.

twilit stag
kind veldt
#

people paid for it

hybrid ore
#

but don't refund the old content that you already paid for.

carmine ember
#

if you hadn't played the expacs in the several years they were out that was on you tbh

hybrid ore
#

But to bring it back around to div2 before this goes 100% offtopic (if you want to continue, feel free to head on over to #off-topic-discussions)

azure lintel
#

Yeah but they gutted the game, new players in particular had a horrible experience and I wouldn't blame anyone for not wanting to join in 2023/24. There's no proper story to start you off anymore, and you have to pay about 200 bucks just to get started

delicate lodge
#

Nobody wants to play a game that gets content we paid for vaulted… once you realize for much stuff was included then you eventually let it go lol

hybrid ore
#

Spec Rework. Any particular hopes?

carmine ember
#

oooh are specs getting reworked?

#

or is this a hypothetical

hybrid ore
#

Well they are but not for a while.

delicate lodge
carmine ember
#

hmm. i haven't played with specs but my one hope is that the rework makes them significantly more impactful

azure lintel
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Specs are milquetoast. I want to be able to use it for its name, properly specialise in something and not have tiny little buffs to a bunch of random things

undone timber
#

I mean what would they do with them to make them more impactful but balanced

carmine ember
#

i want them to be so much more like... build-oriented

hybrid ore
#

The tree's themselves already have some rather good bonuses, my big hope is that some of the fat is trimmed out.

carmine ember
#

idk im not a game designer lol

twilit stag
hybrid ore
#

You can take my tac50 from my cold, dead hands.

carmine ember
#

that and i dont know enough about this game's meta to really comment on how impactful specs are/how they could be made better

delicate lodge
#

Keep the signatures

azure lintel
#

That's fine, you'll be dead anyway as you say because the TAC-50 can't kill anything 😬

carmine ember
#

my one hope is that the minigun gets buffed. i don't know how, i don't care how, but i hope that happens

hybrid ore
#

It doesn't need damage to kill, its sound is so loud that it deafens enemies.

twilit stag
azure lintel
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I wish Nemesis had the same audio impact that the TAC-50 does. It shouldn't, but I wish it did

carmine ember
#

make it shoot tac-50 bullets for all i care just do something to make the minigun a bit better than it is currently

delicate lodge
hybrid ore
#

As a replacement, I would take Iron Man's laser gun hands as a sound for Nemesis.

# 
theoretically with enough time.```
undone timber
#

Shame its suppressed

delicate lodge
carmine ember
#

i am super into the idea of being a heavy gunner, i like big guns. that's why despite it not being meta i will definitely be doing a tip of the spear gunner build at some point

azure lintel
#

I like the aesthetic of the suppressor, maybe a big beefy muzzle brake and a big loud crash when you take out a named dude with one shot

carmine ember
#

every 60 seconds you can shoot a minigun is something i am more than willing to do

hybrid ore
#

I'm fine with reduced damage on Named's to avoid just 1-shotting everything.
but only if we also do that with other builds.

delicate lodge
#

Y’all want the nemesis to look like a beefy anti tank material rifle

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I do too

azure lintel
#

Determined + Headhunter does that just fine at the moment without the TAC-50. It's been nice breaking out the M700 Carbon though, like it's 2004 and it was still good

kind veldt
#

i wouldnt mind a anti tank rifle as spec weapons

delicate lodge
#

Nemesis looks too skinny or empty

hybrid ore
#

I want Nemesis to be the Lanka from Warframe in more than just the charging mechanic.

carmine ember
#

i want that lmg that you don't have to reload. i know it's a bit of a meme but it sounds fun

delicate lodge
kind veldt
#

to elaborate further in what my issues were, specializations are more limitations than big buffs they promissed, if signature weapons were not limited to specs i think it would drasticly better

twilit stag
#

I like Ouro like any normal Person but Elmo is my fave gun in the game by a large Margin, i like how it looks and feels and shoots and sounds and everything, my Beloved St Elmo

azure lintel
delicate lodge
#

Rather be an agent the size will a brute holding that

hybrid ore
#

Everyone who just plays the DZ would be at minimum height, and everyone else would be maximum.

kind veldt
#

everyone is oddjob

azure lintel
hybrid ore
#

"div2: the time machine" edition is a novel idea, I admit.

carmine ember
kind veldt
#

bulletking is wony only

carmine ember
#

so that means level 40, then?

kind veldt
#

yeah

carmine ember
#

;-;

hybrid ore
delicate lodge
kind veldt
#

i think you can get during wony campaign and just upgrade latter

carmine ember
hybrid ore
#

It never has to reload, but you do more overall DPS if you physically throw the gun.

kind veldt
#

anyhow if specs were REALLY wild gameplay changing classes i would love them

azure lintel
#

It is but if a weapon was made for someone, Bullet King is made for fly

kind veldt
#

but they are not that so i hate them

twilit stag
carmine ember
#

i will suppress the enemies so hard

hybrid ore
#

Foltest is right, that's why the sharpshooter's spec pistol is the highest DPS gun in div2.
disclaimer: no its not.

carmine ember
#

that i will piss off my teammates because they never come out of cover

delicate lodge
azure lintel
#

Their ears will ring when you finally stop shooting for whatever reason

kind veldt
#

i would love if firewall for example had passive berserker, transfered half of your armor to your health, gave you shield small aoe bash that could stun enemies at close range if you are max health with cooldown and etc i would effing love it

delicate lodge
#

Need Ramsey to throw some seasoning on it to make it look better

kind veldt
#

but instead if feels like someone sold me a shoe that has a stone on it

azure lintel
#

So this has already been answered by a few people. You can't pick the Golden Gun from Goldeneye 007, but if you could bring a weapon over from another game, which one would you choose?

dense saffron
delicate lodge
carmine ember
#

especially with the explosive rounds rework they gave it

azure lintel
kind veldt
carmine ember
#

yes, that meme about giving sweet business explosive rounds came true

twilit stag
carmine ember
#

imagine an lmg that functions like a little minigun

dense saffron
delicate lodge
hybrid ore
dire ravine
twilit stag
azure lintel
#

I'm surprised we didn't get bows either, not just for that but also because the Riker(?) snipers use them too

delicate lodge
hybrid ore
#

As for which, I edit my answer to be "Daikyu from WF", because I want to pin a BT heavy to a wall 9ft in the air.

azure lintel
#

Can't look any further than the PTRS from World at War. It would lose its impact if you can't gib engineers from 300 yards out, but I'm with you guys - I want a massive, heavy exotic that hurts to carry but makes a thundercrack when you shoot it and it makes a mess wherever it hits

#

Ragdolling should be utilised more, 100%

twilit stag
kind veldt
azure lintel
#

I couldn't use the Bramma, I was hurting myself more than anything else

delicate lodge
#

If they ever crossed paths with Rogue Company or Uncharted, I’d just want a scar

azure lintel
#

Standard behaviour if you know me, but still

kind veldt
#

we have multiple SCAR

hybrid ore
#

We need a 3rd thing in div2 called Nemesis, because having an Exotic MMR and a boss in Descent isn't confusing enough for newbies.

kind veldt
#

mk 16, mk20 and mk20 SSR

delicate lodge
kind veldt
#

fair enough

twilit stag
kind veldt
#

if we are talking other weirdo guns

wary tundra
hybrid ore
#

Ooh nvm, there already is a mask with that as its name.

#

3 is enough, 4 is just overkill for the joke.

delicate lodge
azure lintel
delicate lodge
#

Her outfit

hybrid ore
#

They know, they're commenting about how div2 should add Nemesis from re3 as a boss.

twilit stag
#

i wish there was more people in Div 2, like scavenging and hanging around, NPC's just neutral and they would run away when you aimed at them like in div 1

delicate lodge
azure lintel
#

So Wright but there's no taps and no DPS phase. Just kiting. Forever

#

Great, that sounds... just great

hybrid ore
#

We already have his face, as a reward from the run of the Resident Evil apparel event.

kind veldt
#

judge revolver, thompson contender, weird nailguns,

hybrid ore
#

It's basically a Hunter mask.

twilit stag
delicate lodge
#

They dropped the ball with the re event when it first arrived lol

hybrid ore
kind veldt
#

well it's a real gun, but yeah payday 2 made it pretty big

azure lintel
delicate lodge
hybrid ore
#

I mean specifically I want the shotgun ammo in it.
Give us sawn-off 2.0

azure lintel
#

My neighbours must be questioning the 'no, NOW' thing

delicate lodge
hybrid ore
kind veldt
#

it was due being rushed and not being ready if memory works right

#

cause we had a rerun of apparel event and it was promoted as official crossover for resident evil anniversary

delicate lodge
kind veldt
#

so definetly had the licence

#

where's my GFL content on division

azure lintel
kind veldt
#

i still find that so funny

hybrid ore
#

I don't think we ever got a specific answer about it. Unless there was a tweet from a dev at MSV that I missed.

delicate lodge
undone timber
#

If only the doctor home was still a super soaker just get 4 of those and annihilate wright

delicate lodge
undone timber
#

Drown him

delicate lodge
#

As long as we doing 3 bars per phase lol

azure lintel
#

"someone kite him towards the strategically placed Dora the Explorer paddling pool"

twilit stag
#

with negotiator's Tagged enemies receive 100% crit damage (bp) right? does that mean they receive 100% crit damage even to Targets out of cover if they're in cover and you are shooting one out of cover

delicate lodge
azure lintel
#

In a way, the weird fourth-wall-breaking thing not being that you can't bring other stuff with you to make encounters easier is a bit weird
Like bringing a set of flippers to that one Countdown encounter that makes the floors spicy

#

Or a big chunker of a lamp to that rave boss room at Wall Street

hybrid ore
#

Some prozac to DUA.

azure lintel
#

Smelling salts if there are supply chain issues

undone timber
#

Sending more than 4 agents to deal with an entire estate occupied by cleaners

kind veldt
#

i mean most situations would be fixed by sending something liek 32 agents

#

tidal basin? solved in 5 min

azure lintel
#

Reminds me of when that briefly became a thing in Destiny. A 12-man raid was chaos and so much fun

undone timber
#

The image of 32 agents taking on a stronghold is scary

azure lintel
#

Still somehow, 32 randoms will let the timer run down on the rockets at the end of Tidal Basin. Somehow

undone timber
#

😭

delicate lodge
#

Grenader taking out 5 agents per grenade launcher lol

undone timber
#

Imagine all the group buffs you could have simultaneously

delicate lodge
#

The best would be the protection backpack talent

But ppl would just melt once a brute shows up outta nowhere

undone timber
#

If you had people running empathic resolve, over watch, opportunistic and things

delicate lodge
#

But the way some players play, they’ll still die in like 3 shots lol

undone timber
#

Its scary how many people just refuse to use cover

delicate lodge
#

Aye I play 3rd person shooters heavy, I know when people play only 1st person shooters

Those tend to not use cover at all

#

I just wish the devs didn’t have the same input for rolling as getting in cover

neon wyvern
#

division and jtf in shambles

undone timber
#

Jtf is useless as is

delicate lodge
green charm
#

one of my friend says is banned for played with cheater in last boss in one mission. Is possible or lie?

hybrid ore
#

Are you saying that they were banned because they didn't cheat but someone else did?

undone timber
#

I dont see why if it was just one game

#

If they were together for multiple then it’d be cheating by proxy

green charm
#

and got 6 minutes to end the invasion in the record

full zinc
#

they should have received an email if they were banned.

green charm
#

yes we says we are banned for two week

#

after 5 days of this

full zinc
#

ok, well then they should enjoy the 2 weeks

green charm
#

i ask it because now i have fear to play matchmaking

full zinc
#

i doubt it was a pure matchmaking issue... tbh its probably more than that

green charm
#

but that guy not want anymore play because says the next is permanent

#

ah ok

full zinc
#

if it was a matchmaking thing* he would have had opportunity to report it and maybe mitigate any liability he faced

green charm
#

how report if already is finished?

#

in any cases that guy not know need report for that

full zinc
#

you screenshot when youre in the match/mission/whatever

green charm
#

i understand but the people want only play not report every time XD

#

honestly i dont know that too

full zinc
#

div2shrug it is what it is. covering for fishy people kinda make all parties fishy tbh

green charm
#

not is covering at all but only the people not know it and move on

#

and also what screenshot?

#

i not see the name of the mission and timeline

full zinc
#

chalk it up to a learning experience , for the future #unofficial-troubleshooting has links for reporting bug and cheaters and otherissues you may need a ticket for

kind veldt
#

as far as i am aware you need to have matchmake more than once to flag something

#

or have been really unlucky

green charm
#

ok thx but i not understand what screenshot. Maybe you mean a video

#

one screenshot not is really understandable

carmine ember
#

huh, it would appear im being forced to matchmake the lincoln memorial

green charm
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well thx too in any cases 🙂

twilit stag
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I got a CTAR-21 with strained, this gun feels good o:

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a lot better than FAMAS at least, thing just goes everywhere, hard to control 😭

undone timber
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Famas better tho

twilit stag
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whatever i can actually hit with is better

kind veldt
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honestly i constantly forget about the ctar since it appears to be a rare drop for me so i just dont remember it exists

twilit stag
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i like it asthetically too, i think its a very pretty looking gun

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been waiting for a good roll to be sold for the F2000 with perfect Optimist, not a fan of how it looks tho, Weapon is too fat

kind veldt
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ah yes the belgian waffle maker

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i really like it cause splinter cell mostly

twilit stag
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thing is like Gut's Dragon Slayer Sword in Gun Version, a thick slab of Metal

bitter wraith
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Npc rogue agents having oxidiser ruins pve

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Imagine having to use aimbot and oxidiser to kill me (I have 700k armor)

bitter wraith
kind veldt
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That i remember its actually quite lightweight due polymer or plastic used

bitter wraith
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They butchered determined so much its useless now

twilit stag
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yeah this is crazy i find myself almost never dying with Negotiator, the one gear set i Neglected the most due to "Ugggh i have to tag enemies" ended up being the most comfy for me in open world Heroic

undone timber
bitter wraith
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Jesus even the controls are broken

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40 mins of farming and I die to cheating AI

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1 control point cleared

dense shore
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Can someone send me a screenshot of the reward patch earned for hunting the recruiter later on please??? I know it's not time, but Im not home ATM to show a buddy of mine the look of it

hot vessel
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Hello its me

carmine ember
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is there uh... a way to set the language of the in game chat? like different channels or something? i might have it tuned to the wrong one if that's the case

full zinc
opal radish
full zinc
opal radish
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Just use nego bag in open world or unstoppable force ceska bag

twilit stag
opal radish
twilit stag
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sadly im not good enough for GC 😭

frozen meadow
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Or striker chest

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Should I swap to focus

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Wait nvm I'm using ouro i can't

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@opal radish were you the one who asked me about shooting oxis through the wall

opal radish
frozen meadow
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Wait no it wasn't you

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@shrewd cosmos oxidizer does work through wall I confirmed and riot foam I haven't confirmed but am 99% sure it doesn't

opal radish
frozen meadow
shrewd cosmos
opal radish
frozen meadow
shrewd cosmos
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Use it first turrets in the incursion or enemies stick in doors

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Oooooo

frozen meadow
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It's not used in turrets in inc

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That's just a well placed shot not through the wall

shrewd cosmos
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Hmm, I don't know the details. I've seen nuunu shoot and destroy the turrets from the spawn before I even ran down the field.

frozen meadow
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That's just a properly aimed shot

frozen meadow
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I'm basing that just solely off of how the stickies work

oak prawn
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dont we love public executions lmao

opal radish
opal radish
frozen meadow
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You'd have to get some wack geometry though

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Like what I did with firestarters

oak prawn
frozen meadow
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Like it leaks through the fucking cement type of geometry

opal radish
oak prawn
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there canon fodder

frozen meadow
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That's how I got the kills in dz south

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You have to aim at very specific geometry

oak prawn
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havent been in the DZ in ages

frozen meadow
oak prawn
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yes

frozen meadow
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The circular one

oak prawn
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people camp it?

frozen meadow
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Yeah you can shoot firestarters through the floor

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The manhunt there didn't like that

oak prawn
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boohoo

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they knew what they signed up for when entering the DZ

frozen meadow
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They were so fuckin toxic about it lol

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And a group today super toxic cuz I whipped out a demo launcher

oak prawn
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boom boom

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i avoid DZ now

frozen meadow
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Lol

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I just can't find any enjoyment anywhere in the game now

oak prawn
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same

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ive been playing other shit

opal radish
oak prawn
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ofc youd use 5.11 game

opal radish
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I wil show you my 5.11 collection soon petter

oak prawn
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please do

frozen meadow
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I tried survival in div1 but that was a waste of time it sucked

opal radish
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I am planning to do 5.11 dya legendary solo when I get my pc back

carmine ember
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hmm. the story's going too well in my favour rn something scary needs to happen

oak prawn
twilit stag
frozen meadow
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No I'm not cruel

oak prawn
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its fun

opal radish
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Use skills in incursion

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A mortar petter

oak prawn
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it may be cruel but theres no fairness in war

gilded perch
oak prawn
desert fulcrum
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game just wont open whats going on

oak prawn
cursive dagger
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No resurgence channel yet? Or its same thing

kind veldt
frozen meadow
ashen crest
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hi im new to the game.. trying to play d2 on PC steam with dual sense controller, how do i get it to use Playstation icons? sorry if this has been asked multiple times

raven granite
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Haven't done any raids or some of the relatively newer stuff. are raids or expeditions meant to be done at level 40?

agile pendant
agile pendant
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also i doubt the controller has aim assists on div 2 pc, so not worth it over mouse/kb

carmine ember
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its just about stronghold time for me

tropic breach
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if i buy the exotic cache from the dz shop, is there a chance for dz weapon exotics to drop?

ashen crest
small spear
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if you mean eagle bearer, ravenous or bighorn, those do not drop from exo caches no matter if you buy from dz or not

tropic breach
minor bluff
frozen meadow
minor bluff
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Xbox one connects auto

frozen meadow
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Then I'll deconstruct their stuff and extract the resources

minor bluff
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Though minor

agile pendant
agile pendant
frozen meadow
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It's not op

minor bluff
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No minor af

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You will feel like there is one

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Nothing more

frozen meadow
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Don't call me naughty what the fuck?

minor bluff
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💀

agile pendant
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stop going rogue then🤭

frozen meadow
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Dude delete that fucking message

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It's creepy as hell

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I'm going to bed

agile pendant
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fine only cuz ure tolerable and chill usually

frozen meadow
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Ty

agile pendant
agile pendant
minor bluff
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Well the controller lets us play the game while on bed/ sofa

agile pendant
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aim assist is snappy and faster. also cod/2042 even adds extra latency on mouse/kb too balance the diff🤡

agile pendant
# ashen crest Noted thanks

ok so it seems game has some aim assits, for software you'll need rewasd or that dualshock software thing i forgot its name

minor bluff
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I don't play cod since it's boring after a while 😔

ashen crest
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I installed ds4windows but it’s still showing Xbox icons

agile pendant
ashen crest
agile pendant
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you just have to use the ps counterpart

minor bluff
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Windows comes with Xbox controller support and doesn't recognize playstation controllers

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So it's an ass move by the Microsoft devs

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So pc games while they support the ps controller with 3rd party apps it doesn't recognize it (features locked)

agile pendant
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a = x, b = o, x = [] y= triangle

minor bluff
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Hm

agile pendant
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just remember that @ashen crest

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rest is the same usually

tropic breach
#

if we get to lv1000 and got all the shd perks all at maxed. what do we get on 1001+ levels? still the crate and datas? no more stats?

small spear
sterile ferry
tropic breach
small spear
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well, not that tanky, but it is a significant boost over 1k

tropic breach
# small spear yeah

jesus christ so its a complete loss if you encounter those guys on DZ or conflict lol

small spear
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it's only 66k more health which isn't that much. it only becomes a pain when it's 100k+ shd which you WILL see in dz

tropic breach
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thats prolly like 20,000 hours played TD2 lol

small spear
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most likely exploits tbh

sterile ferry
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I think shd 20k would be legit, wouldn't it?

little viper
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Is it possible to do tidal basin solo? I’m gear 440 and am wondering if I should get to 450 and then try it

sterile ferry
small spear
green charm
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with 8000 hours played if i not remember bad

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i dont know if legit. Im 1800 actually 🙂

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and have over 1000 hours

undone timber
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8000 hours is mad

green charm
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someone can have it after years of playng 🙂

undone timber
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8000 hours is like about an entire year

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This game only came out 5 years ago

opal radish
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You have to give like 20% of your day to game so about 5 hrs daily

carmine ember
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i needa find someone to run strongholds with. im so close to being done base game

undone timber
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5 hours daily on a single game is nuts

undone timber
carmine ember
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i might go to bed first though im tired

undone timber
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I get that though the game feels way less empty with teammates

carmine ember
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yes that's why i want to do some team play

opal radish
neon wyvern
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Revive hive petter

opal radish
neon wyvern
azure lintel
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Which is good life advice really

opal radish
sterile ferry
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just yesterday i killed my own HC toon with firestarter chem

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im a special kind of idiot

opal radish
sterile ferry
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yup, 3649

opal radish
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Damm

rancid geode
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Hello guys i have a Question I dont understand the Ninjabike backpag can some1 explain it ? Best would be in german

undone timber
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Exotic backpack with a blue core yellow core and red core

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Talent lets it slot into gearsets and brandsets

sterile ferry
azure lintel
sterile ferry
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no, it stays saved

azure lintel
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That makes much more sense. I see a guy routinely in Countdown on Hardcore who just sort of sneaks around behind us. Never the first to any encounter.
Even with behaviour like that, there's no way you get to 2000+ without dying. Would be interesting to know what the record is though

sterile ferry
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i have someone in my friends list with around 17 or 18k shd

azure lintel
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Oh I mean consecutive SHD levels without dying!

sterile ferry
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mine was like 1200 levels in a single life

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back when convoys were king

fervent turtle
low lily
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To be fair it was really easy to hit those 10k hardcore shd's before they changed the CP XP, you could get 4x more xp on those

grim stream
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whats the best xp farm rn they nerf resource convoy what rn ?

molten spire
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Sniper Headhunter + Determined build, any activity from a faction that doesn't use helmets asides from heavies

sterile ferry
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yup, because of headshot kills you get bonus xp as well

fickle edge
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is there a way to spawn memento medals at the shooting range?

blazing citrus
unique summit
sterile ferry
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gets boring fast, i always end up mixing activities

blazing citrus
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Per activity public executions are best

fickle edge
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It should be since propaganda takes forever with the keys

sterile ferry
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was there some kind of cheese that allowed elite activities to be spammable cause the nerf makes no sense

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specially the patrols

molten spire
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The elite patrols actually are four guys with no reinforcements, but yeah, they weren't exactly common spawns

blazing citrus
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Nuff said

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:3

sterile ferry
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fun was never an option

azure lintel
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^this, but seriously.
I play with some folks semi-regularly on my escapades in matchmaking, that have no interest in it being fun (for themselves or anyone else)

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Appreciate that sounded like a vague, snotty Facebook post

unique summit
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Personally I just pick a CP and do the whole map of CPs in a clockwise motion without fast travel. Do every activity on the way. Heroic, all directives, global event on. Call for backup for the group bonus. Throw on some music or a podcast. It's chill and by the time you're done you'll have a lot of XP.

tender wave
#

Determined sniper build by any chance?

unique summit
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With regulus, big shield, and dch baby

azure lintel
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I need to farm a Habsburg piece for my brainless Determined sniper build

molten spire
#

Airaldi works about the same anyway

obsidian tide
#

is the tactical vector sbr 9mm in general lootpool?

sterile ferry
obsidian tide
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idk feel like i havent seen it xd

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thanks

hybrid ore
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A while ago (possibly still) one of the SMG's actually weren't but should've been, so it's a valid question.

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some kind of UMP iirc.

sterile ferry
#

right the ump 45

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actually theres one way to get a ump 45

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but its purple

undone timber
#

Ain't there a blueprint or smth

tender wave
#

It only dropped with WONY starting gear if you boosted iirc, I think it's added to the loot pool now though

sterile ferry
#

other variants do but not the base

green eagle
#

hello people 👋

azure lintel
novel laurel
azure lintel
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Alternating between 2x Airaldi and Airaldi/Punch Drunk because why the heck not

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I'm on a mission to get as silly HSD numbers as possible, sense and logic be damned

novel laurel
#

Nice

blazing citrus
azure lintel
ornate jungle
#

Alright fellas. I did the thing. I bought the game. Who needs food right? :D

fervent turtle
ornate jungle
#

I actually played the base game many years ago. I'm not sure if I should make a new character and play from 1, or jump in at 30 with my old one.

tender wave
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try both, see which one feels better

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maybe play from fresh for a few levels, then jump back into 30

real creek
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Yeah when I came back to the game I had a lvl 40 SHD 50ish? idr but I figured I'd make a new character and "try" to run thru the game again and man I could not do it. Still I'd suggest trying it tho.

prisma sluice
#

just started out got like 5 guns that are purple just to find a green assault rifle with more dps

novel laurel
#

Start at 30 play dlc it's basically a tutorial

prisma sluice
novel laurel
#

There's maybe 1-2 that you can't get from boosting

real creek
#

You can always make more characters to run thru 1-30 too.

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The 1-30 leveling goes super fast with a carry too so make friends and have someone run you thru.

tender wave
#

...or just have fun playing the story at your own pace and exploring the beautiful world, no need to rush to endgame

prisma sluice
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if its anything like division 1 it takes way to long to go at your own pace

tender wave
#

it's easier than div 1 story

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but if you get impatient, you can boost whenever you like

prisma sluice
#

okay, do they have the same gear and stuff when you reach a gear score? like remember nomad armor?

tender wave
#

some people focus too much on the destination and forget that the game is the journey itself

prisma sluice
#

i just wanna dog people in dz

tender wave
#

you have gearsets and high-end items yes, there's no classified and gearset builds aren't necessarily stronger than high-end ones

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but if you want pvp that's a long grind in the endgame to get a competitive build, in that case you'd definitely want to boost through everything as quickly as possible

desert fulcrum
tender wave
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just be aware that most people who enjoyed Div1 pvp do not rate Div2 pvp very highly