td2-general-chat

[deep flare]

Yes i know unfortunately. A man can hope 🙂

@kind veldt Next exotic weapon could be a shotgun actually but it needs to be very good in order to outshine the scorpio

[kind veldt]

it needs to be do something different

dont think they will play status effect on shot gimmick again

[undone timber]

Btec medved

[kind veldt]

already threw my random idea earlier

[frozen meadow]

Talent: Suspected Fire

Each pellet that hits an enemy grants a refreshing buff that adds +0.1% weapon damage for 5 seconds. This buff retains on weapon swap. max stacks: 100

[undone timber]

Acs12 with frag rounds a la historian so you get double damage and stacks

[twilit stag]

who wins, robotic dog with a mounted minigun or 100$ amazon drone

[kind veldt]

in case you havent seen the new hot thing is cardboard drones

nintendo tried to warn us of the power of cardboard with their labo playset but we didnt listen

[undone timber]

Beware the car(d)board

[frozen meadow]

a car board is called sheet metal

[undone timber]

OOPS

[broken solstice]

heres a good idea. make a truck with a stainless steel body. no other modern auto manufacturer has ever tried it before.. i wonder why

[undone timber]

💀

[frozen meadow]

Weren't old cars made of cast iron

No it was steel

[broken solstice]

probably. but cast iron doesnt fluctuate its size and shape wildly with temperature

[frozen meadow]

They were made of steel and aluminum

So yeah we swapped off of steel because it was brutal to get in a crash

[broken solstice]

the problem with thin stainless steel sheets is that its incredibly important for mass production that every piece is identical within a tiny tolerance. the tesla manufacturers cant do that because it just doesnt work. none of the lines of the mass produced trucks are going to line up correctly

they cant even stamp two panels in a row that are within tolerance

[frozen meadow]

right

someone on the ubi discord suggested an exotic that fires infinite special ammo

i said thats literally just elmo

[broken solstice]

i just want an ongoing directive but with fire rounds

[undone timber]

Doesn't the iron lung do that

[frozen meadow]

lmfao

[broken solstice]

no

it doesnt

although it does feature fire

[undone timber]

Do the fire rounds not stack with hollowpoints

[broken solstice]

you dont get fire rounds. which is why they can both be active at the same time

it doesnt count as special ammo

[undone timber]

Whats the difference between the iron lung rounds and regular incendiaries

[broken solstice]

im not sure but when you have special ammo it overrides any other special ammo you had so you can not benefit from 2 at once. iron lungs mag counter doesnt turn orange when youre firing bullets that light on fire. special ammo turns the thing orange while you have special ammo

[undone timber]

So it does do the bleed and fire simultaneously then if you have it all revved up

Ohhh I must've misunderstood your original thing about OD I thought you meant OD + fire rounds not OD but fire rounds😭

[broken solstice]

yup

[frozen meadow]

What about od but random ammo not only bleed

[broken solstice]

yeaaaahhh

that sounds fun

[lone valve]

Reassigned

[broken solstice]

does that talent give you one special ammo round or whats the deal there

[undone timber]

Fairly sure yeah

[devout girder]

Does anyone have the list of the exotic loot pool for countdown? Please

[tender wave]

exotic pool varies from player to player because some exotics won't drop until you've crafted them or got them from the season pass first. Other than those and the raid/incursion/legendary exotics, anything can drop

[kind veldt]

i want more explosive damage guns

the only two we have are rifles

[broken solstice]

the explosion from merciless/ruthless doesnt seem to affect other enemies that are standing right next to it.

[kind veldt]

more that explosive damage has useful propierties for armor penetration against dog and enemies that hold shields like hyenas and heavy rikers

[lucid oak]

is there an appearance vendor in TD2?

[broken solstice]

the apparel store

[hybrid ore]

If you're asking about changing your face and such, yeah there's one in Haven and one in the BoO (White House).
The former is near Kelso downstairs, the latter is a mirror between the main entrance and the clan vendor, up the hallway indoors.

[devout girder]

That’s weird cos I havnt played in years and within couple days I got the Elmo to drop

[hybrid ore]

@devout girder Exotics from a Season Pass are added to the LZ (general game) loot pool once a Season is over or you obtain them in the Season, whichever comes first.

[quasi verge]

I'm having a very bad time with the end of this Pentagon mission, in case anyone was wondering. Hardest thing I've done in the game so far.

[kind veldt]

which one of the two

i know one is pentagon and the other is darpa but i never remember which is which

[quasi verge]

Brenner. Captain Mortars-a-lot.

[astral notch]

the donate all junk button in expertise isnt working for me. any fixes?

[quasi verge]

Oh I see. DARPA mission end is a massive pain for everyone.

[neon wyvern]

start moving

[quasi verge]

Well you certainly aren't going to tank it all are you?

[astral notch]

can the scorpio roll a new attribute?

[neon wyvern]

no it's one of those grandfather exotics

[tropic breach]

where is the mounted guns in roosevelt omg lol

[neon wyvern]

why roosevelt

can't that gunner challenge be completed at a mounted gun control point?

[tropic breach]

it says on roosevelt island

[neon wyvern]

I forgor

it's before you destroy the first huge red gas tank

[tropic breach]

I may have to repeat the stronghold again omg lol im at the boss already

[neon wyvern]

the "boss" has two miniguns

actually it might be three

I bet that's where u r intended to get it

[kind veldt]

the "boss" of two gas tanks also has it

both sides you can just snipe their spawns almost

[tropic breach]

awesome thanks guys

[tropic breach]

Wait where is basilisk? the stronghold ended without him

omg I killed him without knowing earlier jesus i have to repeat the stronghold

[wet igloo]

this game makes me sad sometimes

[kind veldt]

basilisk is one of the named heavy guys with hammers right after the c4 gate

[tropic breach]

I can finish the gunner quest on normal diff right?

[kind veldt]

i think so, but double check what the text says

i think it might say hard?

[tropic breach]

it doesnt say anything tho

[neon wyvern]

yes but you might kill balisik too fast if you aren't planning to oxidize his armor off with the help of a sniper turret lure

I didn't do it on normal

[tropic breach]

what if i change my items from the ones i just picked up?

[neon wyvern]

idk what you picked up

but skill tiers for oxi canisters help

[agile pendant]

man i love the collector chest piece

nad spam banzai

[chilly sierra]

Does anyone have every blueprint? My table shows 446/458.

Anyone have all?

[tropic breach]

Jesus christ I killied him ffs

its the last armor left omgg

If i killed him that means I have to repeat the whole run?

[neon wyvern]

Down yourself in game

and restart from checkpoint

[quasi verge]

Is there no good (non-cheese) solo strat for the end of DARPA with Brenner?

[craggy pond]

For the Talent "Versatile" says swapping between Primary and Secondary, does that mean my first gun and pistol or my 2 first guns?

[quasi verge]

I've seen lotsa people shooting and mine tossing through and over fences by the entry grate.

[quasi verge]

First and second I would think. Pistol is technically sidearm.

[craggy pond]

Ok dope

[tropic breach]

thank god we can do that. i just finished the gunner stage now FINALLY!

did I just unlocked gunner now?

how come I still need to get points to level up gunners perks?

[craggy pond]

Any visual representation for 5, 10, 15 (etc.) meters in the Division 2?

[kind veldt]

unlocking and levelling are different things for an spec

[kind veldt]

you mean to check the distance? i think sharpshooter spec scope tells you distance

[craggy pond]

Like any screenshots saying "This is what 10 meters looks like" or something like that

[tropic breach]

I actually like demolishionist more as im a turret drone user. ugh I took time to finish gunner lol. I shouldve checked the perks first. but all good. achievement done! thanks fam

[kind veldt]

check the shooting range, the numbers above it's distance

you can shoot that to set a target to that distance

[craggy pond]

Didn't know this, I'll check that out actually

[kind veldt]

so you can have a rought estimate

i think if a gun has ranger talent it will always say the distance on the side of the gun to the target

but only to a valid target

[tropic breach]

Is there any chance I could get a coyote mask in The Summit with Challenging and +3 directives on difficulty?

[kind veldt]

yeah

coyote has no restriction on drop

[frozen meadow]

Just brute force it

[tropic breach]

what floors again on summit are the key boxes?

[frozen meadow]

Every third

From the tenth floor

So 3/6/9/13/16/19/23/26/29 etc.

[tropic breach]

ohh gotcha the first 3rd of every tenth floors thanks

so 33

before the 3rd floor or after?

[wet igloo]

yey

i got st elmo

[undone timber]

On the 3rd floor

3/6/9

If you're looking for Ridgeway's pride the pieces only drop every 20 floors or so

[tropic breach]

was it before i enter the 3rd or after i finish the 3rd?

[kind veldt]

it's on every set of 3's

you realize how you climb a few and then have to use elevator?

thats a set

[full zinc]

After. Cp will actually 4th 7th 10th

[kind veldt]

on the last one of each set

[quasi verge]

Tried that. About 4 of the fifteen times. Apparently, I am not a brute force character.

[cinder oasis]

#td2-build-advice

[frozen meadow]

Tomorrow I can join up on you and we can try to brute force it wdyt

[quasi verge]

Well, I think on try 15 I got so close to making it that I want to try it solo one or two more times. I think I've worked out a good approach. If I can't get it in a few tries from there, I may take you up on the offer if it is still good by then.

[frozen meadow]

I got nothing going on tomorrow lol

[quasi verge]

I shall keep that in mind. Mostly I just ran out of time today.

[frozen meadow]

I'll be on call basically all day tomorrow

[shrewd valve]

really feel like rifles need a little help competing against the other classes

[potent condor]

really?

[frozen meadow]

The problem is how

[shrewd valve]

yeah… never said i had the answer, just the complaint

[potent condor]

reckless/merciless is still solid

[shrewd valve]

no where near any top assault rifle or even snipers

[potent condor]

💀

[shrewd valve]

idk man, like i just got the rav and the talent looks like it could be awesome

but when in use it doesn’t hit as hard as it sounds

[agile pendant]

omg that backpack skin with fan has it moving 🤯

bravo devs nice detail

[rare vapor]

whats name of that one?

[frozen meadow]

I never provide problems without solutions

Its not productive imo but that's my own opinion

[undone timber]

It is awesome on raids

[shrewd valve]

there’s so much wrong with that statement, but sure buddy.

[shrewd valve]

first time i’ve heard that but then again i’m not that intergraded into the raid community.

[frozen meadow]

What's wrong with it

[undone timber]

Without it morozova would be running around giving everyone seizures and launching rockets at everyone

That and I hear people like it over on dark hours for razorback

[shrewd valve]

it ignores issues and doesn’t allow for active discussion while also isolating individuals which is counterproductive to community and discussion.

[undone timber]

Not really any way to just magically make rifles as a class better

[frozen meadow]

Isolating? How

[shrewd valve]

Not allowing someone to speak unless they have everything figured out just makes it so that no one says anything about anything because if you knew the answer and how to fix it you’d just do it

[frozen meadow]

I just said I personally wouldn't

[undone timber]

Besides as said before merciless/ruthless are solid

[frozen meadow]

I miss old merciless

Old old merciless

[undone timber]

It had a different talent?

[frozen meadow]

Pre-wony pre-nerf merciless

[shrewd valve]

well then there’s no surprise that you tend to be active on here every time i pop in

[frozen meadow]

Yes

[undone timber]

What was the old one

[frozen meadow]

First shot applied an explosive charge second detonated

And they stacked on each other up to five

So shoot > miss > shoot > miss

[shrewd valve]

discord is the home of a 1000 isolated people

[frozen meadow]

Five times then you hit and it does a burst damage

And that old burst damage went straight through the armour of heavies

[undone timber]

Now that talent would do it justice but it's gone now

[frozen meadow]

I know 😭

The only exotics that survived the Great Purge was nemesis and eagle bearer

[undone timber]

Damn shame

[shrewd valve]

i kinda just think rifles need a dmg rework to keep in line with ttk ratio of other weapons

[frozen meadow]

They have a good ttk if you land headshots

[undone timber]

I only remember nemesis actually having some kinda thing where it'd mark a nemesis

[frozen meadow]

That was a second talent

I only ran it for the hsd lol

[shrewd valve]

that’s the difference between pc and console, but i’m sure you aren’t concerned about console

[frozen meadow]

Wdym difference between PC and console y'all have aim assist

It's not like you're physically incapable of landing headshots

[shrewd valve]

and pc has no recoil, what’s your point?

[undone timber]

On console it's difficult to land headshots only with MMRs

[frozen meadow]

That's like arguing snipers are unfair because they require headshots

[undone timber]

Rifles and assault rifles are fine

[shrewd valve]

it’s shooting multiple rounds with a dmr that’s the issue, not snipers

[frozen meadow]

PC has no recoil? What

[undone timber]

Besides determined exists now

[shrewd valve]

mouse control is a lot more accurate than controller recoil control

[lapis junco]

recoil is hard coded. Doesnt change. PC is just alot easier to control said recoil

[frozen meadow]

Worse ≠ impossible

[shrewd valve]

my comment above is a perfect reply

[frozen meadow]

Someone didn't mix my milkshake enough now I'm angy

[shrewd valve]

you seem to believe that i’m arguing somehow, all i said was pc has a better time controlling recoil

[lapis junco]

go back and murder the person who made it

[frozen meadow]

It's better but thats unfixable because that's literally just the nature of pc

You'd have to literally alter the definition of stability on console to obtain fairness

[shrewd valve]

? still confused why you’re trying to make a point… that’s what i literally just said

[frozen meadow]

I'm saying you can't say rifles need a buff because console is more difficult to aim than pc

Because that has nothing to do with the game

And it is still completely doable just more challenging

[shrewd valve]

? no that’s not what i said and that’s a gross generalization of my point

[frozen meadow]

Then what are you saying

[undone timber]

The only thing about rifles on console I actually want changed is the really inconsistent fire rate

[shrewd valve]

i’m saying rifles in general have less value than the other classes and get out classed in general

[undone timber]

Like my rav just doesn't wanna shoot fast

[frozen meadow]

I'm saying if you land headshots then they do quite a bit of damage

[undone timber]

Sometimes it does sometimes it doesn't it's weird

[real creek]

Just get mouse and keyboard for your console.

[frozen meadow]

Lol

[shrewd valve]

dmg isn’t the issue, it’s that the experience on console is different than pc for rifles but i’m not saying that’s the reason they need a change.

[lapis junco]

Just get a xim. cheat

[shrewd valve]

i actually have a keyboard and mouse but they don’t port to console because it’s considered cheating and you need an external port to get it to work

[frozen meadow]

Mate I seriously can't think of another way to word this other than skill issue, that's kind of what you're pointing to

[kind veldt]

they could just buff their overall handling

yes very late to conversation

just saw people mention rifle and buff

damage numbers aren't bad on them

[steep harbor]

I haven’t played since December 2022. What have I missed?

[frozen meadow]

Thinks rifles are bad cuz console aim

[kind veldt]

i think they are bad cause too many are focused on spamming

[undone timber]

New exotics and manhunts and the incursion but that's about it really

[frozen meadow]

Descent

[shrewd valve]

i genuinely don’t understand your reasoning for being this way, no one is trying to argue with you and you’re still typing as if we are on different teams.

[kind veldt]

my view is that on paper all their stats are great and balanced alright inside their own category

[steep harbor]

Nice

[undone timber]

Cuz you insinuated the underlying issue was that it was hard to land headshots on console

[frozen meadow]

Which is just not true

Lol

[kind veldt]

but different from automatic weapons their rof feels inconsistent for the magazine size

[undone timber]

That's why I like merciless shit fires fast

[kind veldt]

so landing consistent damage is well not consistent by the amount of clicking and tapping you are doing

[frozen meadow]

Old merciless was awesome

I might have an old clip hold on

[undone timber]

The binary trigger is fun

[shrewd valve]

no, i stated a fact that it is easier to aim on pc.

[kind veldt]

binary trigger is a great mechanic

[frozen meadow]

Crap I don't

Worst day ever tbh

[kind veldt]

i just really hated the old talent of "here lets make a gun that forces you to miss to be good"

anyhow rifles in general

[frozen meadow]

Then why are we shaming a weapon class on this

[undone timber]

Oof

[shrewd valve]

shaming is a strange word to use in this context

[kind veldt]

they should have capped the magazine to 20 and so their stats could be consistent

[frozen meadow]

Wdym GB

[kind veldt]

three fiddy

[undone timber]

Rifles are getting bashed rn

[frozen meadow]

You're bashing rifles for not being up to every class. That's shaming by definition

[kind veldt]

eh...

[shrewd valve]

from my recent memory, rifles in d1 were considered good

[kind veldt]

there wasnt rifles in D1

did we have this conversation like 2 days ago

honest deja vu

[undone timber]

The semi auto stuff was all under marksman rifles

[frozen meadow]

Rifles were good before striker buff

Rifles were actually pretty meta before striker

[kind veldt]

and it's not like they got worse

[shrewd valve]

?? are you not going to classify urban mdr as a rifle?

[kind veldt]

other stuff got as strong

[frozen meadow]

Yeah

Rifles are still very usable lol

[kind veldt]

it was an semi auto AR and the ONLY semi auto AR in that game, all others were under the MMR category

[frozen meadow]

I'd argue HE rifle > HE AR

[shrewd valve]

that seems more like a problem on naming

[undone timber]

It was an AR

[shrewd valve]

that’s just kinda weird

[kind veldt]

rifle have different category, stats and bonus

[frozen meadow]

But yeah rifles are still awesome

[kind veldt]

cold take since this is from the old forums

[undone timber]

I miss deadeye now

[shrewd valve]

is there a set that gives a bonus to using a rifle?

[kind veldt]

rifles should have damage to armor, shotguns should have bodyshot damage as theor bonus

[frozen meadow]

Yes overlord

Which is the brand of fox prayers lol

[kind veldt]

no gear set, only brand from overlord

[shrewd valve]

all i see is assault, smg, shotgun, marksman, lmg

[frozen meadow]

I just named it

[shrewd valve]

that’s it

[kind veldt]

is the one that the simbol is a fire sword

[shrewd valve]

no gear set?

[kind veldt]

no gear set

[frozen meadow]

Not that I can recall

[shrewd valve]

that has to be some type of oversight

[frozen meadow]

No?

[kind veldt]

not really

[steep harbor]

Should I even come back to this game or?

[kind veldt]

theuy just have thought of a good one

[shrewd valve]

why would ever other weapon class get one but not rifles?

[kind veldt]

yeah pretty fun right now

[frozen meadow]

Because rifles are less popular?

Do any brandsets grand sidearm damage even

[kind veldt]

AR & LMGs only got waaaaaay later on the game life, after it came back to life

[shrewd valve]

it’s in a pretty solid state if you get passed the bugs and loading times on ps

[kind veldt]

heartbreaker was made by the new dev team AFTER the game was shut down

[undone timber]

Not as far as I'm aware

[frozen meadow]

Exactly lmao

[kind veldt]

yes

[small spear]

in div2?

[kind veldt]

punch drunk

[small spear]

d&h lol

[shrewd valve]

so should we expect something soon?

[undone timber]

Oh shit yeah d&h

[kind veldt]

brand is the fake H&K

thats how i remember them

[frozen meadow]

Shit meant gearset

[kind veldt]

nope

[small spear]

oh then none

[frozen meadow]

Lmao

Sorry lol

[kind veldt]

thats why i keep suggesting a pistol and rifle gear set

[shrewd valve]

still think we need a exotic g18

[undone timber]

Idk how they'd do it tbh

[frozen meadow]

I designed a pistol gearset already

[kind veldt]

that would close all guns having one, both are semi auto so it would be consistent

[small spear]

make it synergistic with hh

all i ask 🙏

[kind veldt]

i suggested many pistols gear sets

alas they are lost in time in hte old forums

[frozen meadow]

Double mag double rpm and dual wield whatever sidearm ya got

[small spear]

watch it just get reverse powercrept by HF anyway

[shrewd valve]

they’d never give us something that cool

[undone timber]

Okay dual wield sells it for me

[frozen meadow]

It's functionally easy to design

[kind veldt]

it's troublesome due animations

[shrewd valve]

but the likelihood?

[frozen meadow]

If they can make emotes they can make this

[frozen meadow]

At least 15

[kind veldt]

you have to make animations for all scenarios, shooting, reloading, cover, running...

[shrewd valve]

15 what? shemkls?

[undone timber]

Just mirror as much as possible

[kind veldt]

i mean they could lame it out lot of them just making the gun disappear and use regular one handed pistol for most of them

[lapis junco]

reuse

most animations are reused

[frozen meadow]

15

[frozen meadow]

Cover and running no

Just glue gun to hand and then regular animations

[kind veldt]

how are you going to reuse the fact our agent grips their gun with both hands to two guns, does he grow two arms?

[frozen meadow]

Just delete that animation

Simple problem simple solution

[kind veldt]

and i did say that they can cut and lame it out a lot fo them

but it will just look bad as i said

and people will shit on them

[frozen meadow]

Nah

[undone timber]

A small price to pay for the power of akimbo

[frozen meadow]

I'm imagining it and it's fine

[lapis junco]

youd have to change very little

it wouldnt be a ground up rebuild of animations

[frozen meadow]

No just don't have them grip the guns

Blind fire is hipfire and ADS is just holding both out more accurately

Easy way out is to just make blind fire and ADS the same thing

[undone timber]

It'd be funny if they released this in the same season they introduce a machine pistol

[kind veldt]

at this point in the game i dont mind akimbo

just saying there is a lot more to think and more work than you think

[frozen meadow]

Not many tbh

Generic animations are all reusable

You're looking at no more than four new animations

I can't think of any more than two

Being idle and ADS

[kind veldt]

anyhow i would prefer if the gear set also buffed rifles

[undone timber]

Btec sentry's call

[kind veldt]

both guns are semi auto by default and both have also a single burst fire in their gallery

honestly sentry call would work

that set was honestly great with the urban MDR

[frozen meadow]

Imagine an item called Fox's Condemnation

[undone timber]

What'd that one have on it

[frozen meadow]

+8% damage to targets in cover

[undone timber]

Btec fox's prayers?

[frozen meadow]

Idfk what btec means

[undone timber]

Knockoff

[frozen meadow]

No

Just polar opposite

[undone timber]

Oh shit I read it as damage to target out of cover

[frozen meadow]

No lmao

[undone timber]

Oops

[frozen meadow]

Lol

[kind veldt]

Sheriff badge
2 piece: 15% damage Rifle & pistols
3 piece: 15% damage to targets outside of cover & 350% weapon switch Speed
4 Piece
Peacemaker: Rifles deal 15% amplified damage to targets further than 15m, pistols deal 15% amplified damage to targets inside 15m. Killing an enemy or destroying a weakpoint gives you Law bonus. Switching weapons when you have Law active instantly reloads the weapon gives you 50% weapon handling removes the range restriction on the bonus and lets your bullets go through targets for 6s. Kills and breaking weakpoints resets this bonus

[opal radish]

Amp is kinda low

[frozen meadow]

Nuh uh

Hold on lemme reword it

[opal radish]

Yeah

[kind veldt]

i'm bad with math

[opal radish]

15% dttoc Is nice

Hf gives 52.5% amp

[kind veldt]

thought of giving more damage when you proc law

but didnt want to abuse it

[opal radish]

Here we have 15% * 15%

[kind veldt]

HF gives it that much?

[opal radish]

Yeah the bonus are multiplicative with each other

[kind veldt]

i remember weapon damage and the 25(?) bonus if enemy is close?

[opal radish]

So 1.2*((1.05)^5)

[kind veldt]

it's kinda late here so you will forgive me for not remembering or wanting to do math

[agile pendant]

mel arnold is recued, talked to but it still says meet mel arnold??

[opal radish]

53.15% amp

[next socket]

Same. It’s a bug a pretty popular one too

[agile pendant]

ofc its a bug.... lol giga brain devs at massive at it again 🤓

[next socket]

Happens if you join in on someone’s group to complete it

I believe

[agile pendant]

whats the fix??

[next socket]

It goes away

No fix

[frozen meadow]

Gear set: Sheriff's Badge

2 piece: 15% Rifle Damage: 15% Pistol Damage

3 piece: 15% Damage to Targets Out of Cover: 350% Weapon Swap Speed

4 Piece: Peacemaker
For targets closer than 15m, rifle damage amplified by 15%
For targets further than 15m, pistol damage amplified by 15%
Killing an enemy or destroying an enemy weakpoint grants Law buff.

Law: Switching weapons instantly reloads currently drawn weapon and grants 50% weapon handling. Peacemaker range requirement no longer applies after weapon swap for 6s. Killing an enemy or destroying an enemy weakpoint resets this bonus.

Yeah idk how well that'd work

[opal radish]

If you let me change that 15% specific weapon DMG to Total weapon DMG and make it 3pcs bonus

Move dttoc to 2 pcs and make it 10%

[kind veldt]

you switched the pistol and rifle bonus around

so far all gear sets had 2 piece being weapon specific bonus

[frozen meadow]

Oops

[kind veldt]

yeah pistols for close range

[opal radish]

Yeah but that is kinda weak

[frozen meadow]

Negotiators

[kind veldt]

negotiator is weapon specific set?

[opal radish]

Nope

[frozen meadow]

No

[kind veldt]

thats kinda my point

i mean neither does OD or umbra in red sets

i mean you can use HF with sniper rifles just wouldnt reccomend it

[opal radish]

The point with them is they have 20% amp

And od applies to team

Hf stacks for more it is gonna be weak in comparison

[kind veldt]

i admit that numbers ar enot great cause said math is not the threatest at this hour

mostly talking about concept

buff gun, kill and weakpoints lets you switch and ignore reloading to keep the DPS up, piercing shots are kinda circumstantial but are great if you mix it wit hthe weakpoint gimmick

[unique summit]

love it!!!

[kind veldt]

blow up granadiers by shooting them centar mass

[opal radish]

At least let me make changes

[kind veldt]

i mean i could also add that Rifles gets 15% damage to armor and Pistols also get 15% damage to health and when law is active both guns get the bonus

[opal radish]

Gear set: Sheriff's Badge

2 piece: 10% dttoc & 300% swap speed

3 piece: 15% Total Weapon Damage

4 Piece: Peacemaker
For targets closer than 15m, pistol damage amplified by 15%
For targets further than 15m, rifle damage amplified by 15%
Killing an enemy or destroying an enemy weakpoint grants Law buff.

Law: Switching weapons instantly reloads currently drawn weapon and grants 50% weapon handling. Peacemaker range requirement no longer applies after weapon swap for 6s. Killing an enemy or destroying an enemy weakpoint resets this bonus.

[kind veldt]

so you would get 15% weapon specific, 15% out of cover, 15% amplified if inside the range, 15% armor & health for both if active

Gear set: Sheriff's Badge

2 piece: 15% Rifle & Pistol damage

3 piece: 10% dttoc & 300% swap speed

4 Piece: Peacemaker
For targets closer than 15m, pistol and health damage is amplified by 15%
For targets further than 15m, rifle and armor damage amplified by 15%
Killing an enemy or destroying an enemy weakpoint grants Law buff.

Law: Switching weapons instantly reloads currently drawn weapon and grants 50% weapon handling. Peacemaker range and weapon limitation no longer applies after weapon swap for 6s. Killing an enemy or destroying an enemy weakpoint resets this bonus.

better?

get the whole shebang of bonus in one set by going crazy weapon switching

[opal radish]

Twd applied to all weapons

Dttoc is nice but twd is seperate amp also

The 15% Amp is different

So we have 3amps

We have 39.15% amp

[kind veldt]

oops didnt see you changed that

well they fire faster and have more range than HF

since they would have a 50% weapon handling bonus

[opal radish]

That is why I amped

[kind veldt]

making landing headshots very easy and consistent without fear for recoil

[opal radish]

Lower but more consistent

[kind veldt]

also i definetly didnt make this set so i could go full big iron and not have to reload with revolvers and 1887

div1 had that gear set with the weapon reload gimmick but i never felt it was really interesting even with the classified version

[undone timber]

Lone star?

[kind veldt]

well if they wanted to make it themed, there is also competition shooting that focus on switching constnatly between guns including pistols and Rifles

yeah that one, never really clicked wit hme

[undone timber]

Was good fun with lmgs

[kind veldt]

it had shotgun damage bonus but it didnt really feel importnat

later classified version definetly was better with the absurd rof bonus but it's still an unreliable proc

[astral notch]

is optimization cache more worth if im new or the exotic chest? i think i pretty much have my dps build finished

[fluid meadow]

Optimisation boxes give you shit for resources

Better to spend them on exotic caches if you're missing some or named caches if you're looking for a named item

[dire flicker]

how do you get bloody knuckles?

[undone timber]

Gloves target loot

[broken solstice]

same as just about any other exotic. target gloves in countdown

[dire flicker]

completing it?

[kind veldt]

Random drop or buying exotic caches

[zealous salmon]

Oh god in the new york campaign ||when conley blew herself up that was crazy||

[agile pendant]

she was probably the craziest of the 4

[zealous salmon]

I was like that was easy...oh what the hell

[wet igloo]

well I had the most random encounter today during shepherding

Apparently I was a caregiver and direction guide for an actual blind person playing the game

[zealous salmon]

Woaj

[astral notch]

yall think 2 noobs can do incursion via matchmaking? we have the right gear but low shd and no knowledge lol

[potent condor]

ehh

It’s just pure dps tbh

Not much else going on in the incursion

[hybrid ore]

SHD Level itself doesn't super matter, you can easily play endgame stuff without it being maxed out.

[dire flicker]

dude i swear to god. 3 exotic gloves 3 btsu gloves

[hybrid ore]

At least you got a good Exotic out of it.

You may want to keep one extra copy and decon the other one. It's too useful to not have on an alt.

[dire flicker]

i already have it i have 4 of them in my stash

[hybrid ore]

Expertise requires a frankly staggering amount of Exotic Components, so take this as an investment in making your favourite gun better.

e.g. the Chameleon tax.

[twilit stag]

i bet whoever greenlit the "agents wear whatever they want" started to regret it real hard after agents show up with sparkling LED lights on their clothes and shoes

[dire flicker]

yes but oh my god 3 days of farming bloody knuckles

[hybrid ore]

Do you want them for a joke build or something?

[opal radish]

Hey rivens is the ban on nug permanent 👀

[hybrid ore]

I'm looking into the matter, that's all I know rn.

[dire flicker]

no i want them for a legitimate build

incursion bosses

[hybrid ore]

Kids these days and their weird builds, I kinda love it.

[opal radish]

Thanks

[dire flicker]

how long do you have to be in a group to share items with someone?

[opal radish]

You have to receive item in same session as the player you want to share the item

[dire flicker]

yes

[opal radish]

After receiving the share period is 24hrs

The duration doesn't matter

You just have to be in group at that time the item is received

[hybrid ore]

The share time is an hour, not 24.

Although the timer does only run whilst the game is open.

[opal radish]

Let me cross check lol last time saw it was 24 hr lol

[hybrid ore]

I am looking at the timer right now. Even ran a fresh Countdown to make sure.

"24" seems to be a common misconception online.

[shrewd cosmos]

So many people matchmaking incursion with whacky builds

[undone timber]

Bloody knuckles is surprisingly pretty damn nice for wright

[ebon venture]

How can I reach the Division 2 technical team? Is there an e-mail address? (I need help for Division 2 other than Ubisoft help) ?

[hybrid ore]

You can only send in an official support ticket to ubisoft, but this Server might be able to help with your problem, just post the issue over in #unofficial-troubleshooting

[tropic compass]

How can I see what blueprints I got from the reconstructed cache?

[chilly sierra]

After you open them the message shows up at bottom left of screen or just go to crafting table to check where you have an exclamation mark.

[vestal valley]

Whats the best/fastest way of farming mats for recal?

[tender wave]

Solar farm cp has loads of mats around it, can be gathered once per day

[unique summit]

run wony again, you'll be rich

do a wony run for all 3 chars

every time you level every char gets scavenging points

1 level = 4x scavenging points

[vestal valley]

cheers

[azure lintel]

So I just wanted to source a sanity check. Done some research online but I just want to make sure if I'm doing countdown with targeted loot for backpacks and I happen to get an exotic drop is there a chance it can be the ninjabike even though I never participated in that season/received on before?

[unique summit]

Yes there is. If you're ever in doubt check the build spreadsheet in the weapons/gear tabs and look for the "source" column: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1nrPBmOrtpkEW1j5fbcRT7L-AXgsGOqMqxXoVtopsiGM/edit#gid=195186127

If it says "target loot" you're good.

[azure lintel]

Nice thank you for that spreadsheet.

[unique summit]

Lotta work for an exotic component 😉

[azure lintel]

Yeah I'm really not looking forward to grinding it out but I really want it and I guess the XP will work towards getting my SHD level up lol

[pliant pelican]

Guys the new exotic ouroboros

the only way to get that is through incursion ??

[patent lake]

YES

[pliant pelican]

got it

[velvet walrus]

lf control point farm level 4

[spice mountain]

Hey if you delete a load out do you lose those gear pieces

[velvet walrus]

no

[full zinc]

Starting to sound like someone I know 🤣 🍻

[opal radish]

Who might that be xDd

[full zinc]

🤔

[frozen meadow]

BUTCHA DIDN HAVE TO CUT ME OFF

@quasi verge im coming online rn if you still wanna brute force it

[real creek]

I can helps too. Just woke up so potato aim inbound.

derpa

[frozen meadow]

lol if no response in ten minutes then you and me both do it and ill record

[quasi verge]

Now hang on a moment there folks...

[kind veldt]

if dude shows up still needing help i'll join as well

[quasi verge]

I've only just woke up.

[real creek]

aye same

[kind veldt]

similar

just put my shirt backwards cause wasnt paying attention

[quasi verge]

Hoorah for PST.

[real creek]

Where muster?

[real creek]

Just made me look down to check lol

[quasi verge]

Gonna have some confusion here cause I've not grouped before now.

[kind veldt]

still opening my game

[broken solstice]

you never forget your first time

[oak prawn]

anything interesting happening in game?

[quasi verge]

No matter how hard you try.

okay. I am in and being rained on.

[kind veldt]

opening my game here

[full zinc]

/join username
/invite username
If someone isnt on your friends list

In the chat box👆

[real creek]

Fiddle I sent you a DM with a discord we can all VC in.

[frozen meadow]

i woke up like three hours ago (its 9:30am)

[broken solstice]

slept in i see

[frozen meadow]

lol

[kind veldt]

had too much coffe yesterday so took a while to wakeup

[broken solstice]

sometimes coffee makes me go right back to sleep

[cyan zodiac]

desperately trying to get smg from incursion anyone down?

[sick trellis]

hey!!! Where can I farm the manufacturing designs?
I have made checkpoints at level 4 and they do not drop them. Will I have to lower the difficulty to normal and raise them manually to level 4?
I have 360 of 458

[kind veldt]

descent, raids have a couple, and of course whenever oyu get an exotic you also get their blueprint

[tropic breach]

Whats the best way to hunt Coyote Mask?

[kind veldt]

countdown masks + exotic caches, jefferson mission on highest difficulty to fight coyote herself

[sterile ferry]

the hell is a manufacturing design where did you even come up with that name

[kind veldt]

going to assume is crafting blueprint going through a weird translator

[frozen meadow]

the rest are from descent

[sterile ferry]

descent has less than 60 BPs, their missing more.
side missions, invaded missions and weekly projects also give BPs

raids too

[frozen meadow]

legacy season

[sterile ferry]

wasnt that supposed to be added to CPs?

[frozen meadow]

i dont recall them ever being added

[kind veldt]

legacy seasons are going to be added to descent overtime no?

not sure how many legacy items are on descent right now

it's possible some are just unavailable

[iron gust]

They were supposed to go to CP4s at the start of last season but were never added

If they're going to make descent the go to place for all the blueprints I dunno

[kind veldt]

i remember some items going to CPs again

i dont remember whwat kind were

every season we get waht?

6 from gear sets + 2 exotics + 4 named items (2 weapons 2 gear)

[iron gust]

I don't think they did, I've done CPs and no blueprints and I'm missing the S3 sets

[kind veldt]

I dont think they refreshed last season the CPs blueprint polls

[dire flicker]

farming for these bloody knuckles is going to make me cry

[frozen meadow]

why are you farming for it

[dire flicker]

a build for the incursion

[frozen meadow]

the standard incursion build uses coyotes mask not bloody knuckles?

do you have a picture of what youre farming for

[dire flicker]

and i have that already. i want it for my own seperate build since 2 of my guys also use coyotes

[frozen meadow]

then swap coyotes for grupo

[dire flicker]

yes. that is what i do but bloody knuckles is still a dps increase for write and the lovebirds

[frozen meadow]

it wont work for lovebirds

[timber hatch]

Bloody knuckles is amazing for lovebirds

[frozen meadow]

for a casual run id disagree

[sterile ferry]

is BK for yourself only or a group wide buff

[frozen meadow]

only yourself

[timber hatch]

Do you not normally need more damage in a casual run and always trust your healer to always sledge? Its huge in casual runs

[frozen meadow]

ive learned banking on others being good is the best way a run gets fucked up

[timber hatch]

So bloody knuckles is exactly what you want

[frozen meadow]

the melee part is the one reason why i disagree with you

[dire flicker]

it will work for lovebirds? if you just throw a grenade

[frozen meadow]

throwing a grenade is a huge damage loss

[dire flicker]

how

[frozen meadow]

you lose a few seconds of damage

because it takes too damned long to pull out

they should work on revamping that tbh

[dire flicker]

they totally should i definitely agree it takes too long but for lovebirds if you throw the grenade before actual dps starts you can proc it and have it for the entire dps

and for the kid

[frozen meadow]

does it even work on immune enemies

[timber hatch]

It's well worth it for 20 seconds of the buff

[tropic breach]

does dying alot of times decreases your drop rate? on JTC for coyote mask

[timber hatch]

No, rng is rng

[tropic breach]

oh wow so finishing JTC on heroic doesnt even give 100% exotic drop. and its not mask on target loot.

[timber hatch]

Also just run countdown or summit for coyotes, jtc center was the way to farm it before targeted loot was a thing

[tropic breach]

whats really the best place to farm coyote? JTC or The Summit?

[timber hatch]

Summit or countdown

[kind veldt]

i think on paper legendary bosses on summit should work better

drop rates on legendary is what 7%?

[tropic breach]

yeah cus I see alot of people doing JTC on youtube. theyre all at JTC

and JTC takes a long time and its not even mask target loot.

[small spear]

ask here and don't watch youtube for this lol

there's so much misinformation

[tropic breach]

I mean im just trying to get everyones opinion and I appreciate it.

[potent condor]

just go summit or countdown set targeted loot to mask

and farm

i feel like it's easier doing that than jtc for 200 plus runs

[small spear]

i know, just saying it for now so you remember. div2 YT is just terrible when it comes to factual information, there are good channels but most give terrible information

[twilit stag]

what do you guys thinks is faster, a full tank build or a turret/drone skill build, full tanks dont have much damage but skill builds have to slowly wait for their little minions to chip at enemy hp with their terrible aim c:

[kind veldt]

turret drone

you can get more talents and gear that buffs them

[potent condor]

full tank is better in a group of 4 with 2-3 dps

cuz you can draw the aggro and have your teammates finish off enemies

[twilit stag]

still, the turret hit chance is like 50%, thing has less aim than when i get disoriented 💀

[kind veldt]

if you give a tank too much damage you have a problem, which was kinda the issue that people had with heartbreaker on release

[potent condor]

why the hell

just use foundry with liberty and memento

or catharsis

[twilit stag]

been farmign this goddamn exotic for almost 3 weeks

[tropic breach]

can we put all damage% on drone and turret mods?

[twilit stag]

at this point i wouldnt be surprised if i get ouro before i get catharsis

[timber hatch]

The only place a full tank has any worth in this game is iron horse. Especially in a group of 4 there's zero reason to run a full tank

[twilit stag]

For me mostly for solo, wouldnt even play it in a group at all is a preference thing

[clever blade]

Solo players ftw

Playing with people makes blasting music so loud you can't hear yourself think, extremely difficult

"Oooooh you're not communicating" ofc not buddy, I'm busy screaming my heart out listening to Wind Walkers and playing video games trying to heal my inner child tf?

[kind veldt]

for oslo it works out a bit better due enemy scalling

an exotic machine pistol that magazine size scales with hwo much blue cores you have could work as indirect buff to tank builds

[small spear]

i would actually run tank if that's out

[raw geyser]

i always thought the only reason to play in groups is because more enemys = more loot = more chance for god rolled items

[dire flicker]

look i have the real reason to play in a group

the homies ain't good enough to solo yet so you gotta give them a boost

[kind veldt]

well and xp for more kills

[primal skiff]

Hello how do i get the chest armor "the cherished" blueprint?

And of ongoing directive?

[kind veldt]

OD doesnt have blueprints

is cherised from this season?

[small magnet]

daaaamn rerolled my worse of the two St Elmos...max stat on crit chance is what I rolled

My other, better St Elmos is max accuracy. Was hoping for DTCOOC, but I will gladly take a bonus 9.5% crit chance

[reef reef]

dttooc is much better than CHC

[small magnet]

Well yeah, thats why I wanted DTTOOC lmao...but between 12% accuracy bonus on my other Elmos and the newly rolled CHC, I'll take CHC...it had swap speed before

[low lily]

Yeah I wasted like 20 exotic components just to get that on my Ouro

[broken solstice]

plenty of chc on the gun as it is

[dusky siren]

In need of help farming ninjabike backpack if anyone who has it wants to help me out?

[broken solstice]

it is in the general loot pool. anyone can get it

[dusky siren]

Not had a single drop at all

Isn’t it easier if someone who has it does it?

[broken solstice]

yeah i dont see it much. ive seen 4 or 5

no someone else having it shouldnt change anything

[dusky siren]

Constantly getting memento

Best play to do it?

Countdown?

[broken solstice]

although it might increase your chances bc more kills = more chances it'll drop

yeah countdown

[dusky siren]

I’ll assume heroic is best?

Higher drop chance?

[broken solstice]

challenging is fine. heroic probably has slightly higher chance to drop but as far as the jump in difficulty it might not be worth it

[hollow owl]

How I can lfg raid in psn here ?

[broken solstice]

you have to have a PS role i think https://discord.com/channels/477210626742288384/557396261662097409

[kind veldt]

have hte sony role

[hybrid ore]

@dusky siren

then either Directives or Countdown.``` 
That's how you farm about 90% of loot in div2.

@hollow owl Once you have added the PS role, go over to #lfg-raid-console.

[dusky siren]

What day is reset also?

[hollow owl]

Understood

[hybrid ore]

Targeted Loot resets every day, in about 13.5 hours, roughly.

you can also set your own in Countdown and Summit.

[novel fjord]

would it be better to run DMG of a specific weapon type or just gun dmg as a gold piece

[broken solstice]

can you rephrase that or elaborate pls?

[novel fjord]

debating the sokolov chest piece or the one that is just like 5% gun DMG and with how this gun runs numbers which one is better

[broken solstice]

oh. they're the same thing. one is just limited to a certain weapon type

[novel fjord]

ok gotcha so the one that would be basic gun DMG is better since it can apply to all weapons?

[broken solstice]

unless you're gonna play with your primary weapon the majority of the time

bc 10% is better than 5%

[hybrid ore]

"weapon damage" brandsets in div2 only scale off a guns base damage, not taking red cores into effect.
So the less reds you have in a build, the closer they are to the full 5/10%.

[novel fjord]

yes but i just didnt know how this game ran its numbers so it can be deciving

[thick osprey]

no respawn on manhunt bounties are very jarring

[broken solstice]

oh yeah i wasnt thinking that the 5% is calculating from the rest of your WD. duh

[small spear]

if you're running crit in your builds, high chances are crit brands are better

[hybrid ore]

@novel fjord What is the goal of your build? Like, what do you want to do with it.
If you have a gun type/gearset in mind, etc.

[small spear]

when it's smg you still have a few choices, ceska may give you too much CHC but there are still grupo and at worst sokolov 2p.

[novel fjord]

i have 4 piece strikers and i will be using oroborus or ST elmos a majotiry of the time since and its 6 red cores. Now that i have my watch leveled i no longer need the 10% crit chance this chest piece brings but i will still keep it. I was debtaing if weapon specific DMG or gun dmg would be better

i swap between striker chest and obliterate when not in raids and incursion

[primal skiff]

Welp sad i wasted my cherished on a substat wanted to convert its base core to tech

[hybrid ore]

Striker, nice and easy.
If you are going for non-incursion or similar, it's hard to beat Coyotes Mask and a Ceska chest.
If your CHC is already perfect, I'd suggest Grupo.

[novel fjord]

yeah all my substats are maxed as well as my gear mods

[hybrid ore]

If you are running the Incursion, use the Striker Chest, Coyotes, and a random non-BP part as Ceska/other.

Strikers is probably the highest DPS build we have right now.

[novel fjord]

yup i do run the coyotes but what is BP? i see that and think battle pass 💀

[small spear]

backpack

[hybrid ore]

Darn acronyms.
backpack, blueprint and Beason Pass.

[novel fjord]

yeah LOL it happens ill for see check out grupo then

[hybrid ore]

Oh obvious statement and all, but don't forget to use an acs-12 to build those stacks.

Lefty can be amazing, but it's kinda specific for boss killing.

[novel fjord]

yup i know that much from division 1 im glad that knowledge carried over

yeah sledge is crazy i was thinking ACS with like vindictive or some other DMG buff to finish enemies like i did in DIV 1 since pistols and ALSO have sledge :giga

GIGACHAD

[agile pendant]

how do you get skill overcharge??

[kind veldt]

talents

[oak steeple]

mostly with btsu but there are also other talents...

[broken solstice]

have at least 3 skill tiers and get 4 kills with future perfect on your weapon. have 6 skill tiers while wearing acostas go bag and throw a grenade

[vale rune]

I get rock and roll, possible to get mirakami kneepads?

[hybrid ore]

Both are DZ locked, so you'll need to either get them in the DZ, Conflict Caches, Named Item Caches, or very occasionally the Countdown Vendor.

[vale rune]

Buy named iteam cache from coundown?

[hybrid ore]

Sure, any Named Item cache has the same loot pool.

[vale rune]

Ok. I get rock and roll but rng right?

[hybrid ore]

RNG from a Cache, gotta love it.
(and technically the final target in each Manhunt branch can drop DZ items, but that's not worth the farm)

[vale rune]

Ok

[devout girder]

Does names backpack the gift drop from cd?

[kind veldt]

countdown vendor have them randomnly each week

[devout girder]

Is isit dz only?

[astral notch]

what day of week does raid reset?

[twilit stag]

why people hate chamaleon so much 🤔 wouldnt it be the best option for something like a full tank, 90% damage is pretty much all the red cores you're missing

[small spear]

you just take 50 years to stack it

this is where on paper something looks good but practicality hampers it

[twilit stag]

but still, even if it takes long, u aint getting 90% damage from any other weapon

[small spear]

because those other weapons don't have those same drawbacks already

[twilit stag]

Im talking about a tank build with blue cores where nothing will do anything anyways

[small spear]

the thing is you're playing a tank build that stack other stats that help with survivability, and when you start trying to contribute with chameleon the dps roles kill the enemies already so you can't even stack

[twilit stag]

so much countdown, no catharsis, big sad 😦

[small spear]

remember that before you stack chameleon buffs, you get no damage

and the time to stack is really long

[twilit stag]

i think its main problem is the upkeep of the buff, when it ends u gotta do it again instead of keeping it active like Strikers

[timber hatch]

Because consistency is valuable, and it's incredibly inconsistent. It's also weak at range, while relying on it's buffs to keep it worth using. Either you avoid swapping weapons and your damage falls off a cliff at range, or you swap weapons and completely reset your chameleon stacks to zero every time you swap.

[small spear]

you retain the remaining durations after encounters end, and like raucey said the buffs disappear on swap

and ask yourself if you can hold chameleon on hand for the entire mission

again, as i said: on paper vs practicality. think deeper about these things and ask why people don't run them

usually there are very good reasons

[full zinc]

unless running a high end smg, with either elmo or oreo youll still want the ceska piece even with coyote. with elmo youll only need the 2 secondary rolls be chc with everything else chd. with oreo youll primarily be closer range and most likely proccing coyotee close buff which is no chc, and youll be running at 60 in that case (technically 63, but obv 60% is cap).

[frozen meadow]

IMS a good 💯😌💯😌

[copper shoal]

It is the best run n gun AR.

[thick osprey]

some of these hunter puzzles are so very long

[wooden hazel]

I just realised

Cause I didnt redeem my darkzone extracted loot

And because it isnt in my inventory

I can redeem it in a Hc character

And sell it for alot of money early on

[twilit stag]

i got all perfect gear for a foundry build but no catharsis it wont drop 😦

kicking people from challenging Countdown, cringe is real

[wet igloo]

Im just about down with shepherding

ppl be so rude to me

[dark ridge]

Someone help me PLEASE BRUH I CANT STAND THIS HUNTER

[wet igloo]

?

[dark ridge]

Schaeffer Manhunt hunter

If I die I gotta do the whole mission again to get him to respawn

[reef reef]

if you have scorpio, it works very well against hunters

[wet igloo]

^^

[dark ridge]

Right, right what is that

[reef reef]

exotic shotgun

[tropic breach]

why do i always get exotic diamond shaped loot on every summit lootbox?

[reef reef]

it applies debuffs/status effects based on how many times you shoot an enemy. Can be dropped anywhere, easiest way to get it is to target Shotguns in Summit or Countdown (preferably countdown)

[tropic breach]

where do i exactly get the coyote mask from? lootbox or the mobs?

[wet igloo]

those are parts

for the ridgeway chest exotic

[reef reef]

parts of Ridgeway's Pride. get 5 parts, finish Summit, do the quest, get ridgeways.

[reef reef]

you can get Coyote's Mask from anywhere, not specific. Has a higher chance to drop from Coyote herself, or from Mask Target loot wherever available

[dark ridge]

Tough, real tough

[reef reef]

...?

[wet igloo]

???

[reef reef]

are you trying to say its tough to get exotics or...?

[tropic breach]

who got coyote mask here? where did yall get it? the summit or JTC?

[reef reef]

i got mine from a cache, i believe

[wet igloo]

mine from cache

[dark ridge]

Pretty much

[reef reef]

generally countdown will be easiest to farm, summit just doesnt have the loot potential

[potent condor]

i got mine from summit

[reef reef]

gotta put in the work to make it easy

[tropic breach]

what floor?

[kind veldt]

floor doesnt change

[potent condor]

floor doesn't matter

[reef reef]

it doesnt matter what floor, its random what everyone gets

[wet igloo]

any floor, the exotic is random

[potent condor]

the drop rate is the same

[kind veldt]

kill something, game spins a magical roullete to see what items you get

[wet igloo]

however, higher chance farming mask loot or doing Jefferson heroic

[kind veldt]

countdown because of targetted loot and named enemies/hunters make the game spin a lot of roulletes to improve the chance

[reef reef]

just farm countdown, both of you- 2 or 3 runs gets you enough countdown currency to get an exotic cache and you can select the target loot you want- shotguns and masks

[kind veldt]

coyote boss has an bigger size in the roullete associated with the mask, but in the end of the day you are still spinning it

so it's luck and eventuality

[reef reef]

(and its one spin while everything else in the mission has a much smaller chance of dropping it, while countdown everything has a substantially higher chance)

[tropic breach]

awesome thank you guys

[agile pendant]

backup boom where does it drop??

[azure lintel]

Restarted Descent 19 times trying to get the Bulwark shield to mess around with. Booster hive was a choice a;; 19 times

How the fuck is that even possible?

[devout girder]

I got the mask from countdown twice great rolls too

[sharp nexus]

Dontate

[kind veldt]

well i got from first season pass

i dont remember what gun they gave us tho i just remember the mask

[tropic breach]

Is burn out and famas the same?

[tender wave]

burn out is the named famas with a fixed talent

[kind veldt]

yes

it's a named famas with perfect talent

[tropic breach]

I see same with others with orange names

[tender wave]

named items all have one 'perfect' stat or talent that is fixed for that item

[kind veldt]

i think only two guns have unusual rolls

Mop Six 12 shotgun with armor on kill

and TDI KARD with one skill tier

is there any other weapon with unusual roll?

oh right backup boomstick and white death

[hybrid gull]

@wise basalt Thanks for the assist earlier!

[twilit stag]

I wish i didnt had to waste my time so much by the game crashing so often in Countdown

[tropic breach]

dang countdown is fun. is it always 8 people doing a run there?

[kind veldt]

Yeah

[reef reef]

*sometimes someone will disconnect because of lag or server problems or crashing, so if you see 7/6/5 people its still normal

[twilit stag]

bro for real what's with people not starting countdown

do you que and then go take a sht or what the hell

[devout girder]

🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

[ember path]

Can you re-roll the third attribute on any exotic now? I tried to re-roll a Backfire but always got magazine size which is what it started with. I wasn't sure if it was just bad luck or can't change it.

[inland pawn]

Anyone else just can't find a build they vibe with? No matter what I do, I feel like I never do enough damage.

[unique summit]

a lot of builds are tied to a playstyle. some playstyles require taking risks. you can have the strongest build but if you play it wrong it'll feel like shooting marshmellows.

[kind veldt]

no just new ones appear to have that

[inland pawn]

Strikers is the only one i've had much success with, but doing cps still feels stupid slow.

[kind veldt]

what kind of weapons and playstyle you like?

[unique summit]

define slow

solo heroic?

[inland pawn]

heroic in general.

[kind veldt]

could try something less gun centric like eclipse

[unique summit]

chc/chd? what other pieces u running with striker? shd level?

what gun u using?

[inland pawn]

Did not like that playstyle at all.

[kind veldt]

well what guns do you like or want to build around for?

cause faster one shot kills like snipers and shotgun are also options

or if you think the problem is the amount of mobs negotiator might be an alternative

[inland pawn]

One shot doesn't work for me either cause my aiming is dog thanks to constant shaking. plus helmets and armour.

[kind veldt]

well HF and negotiator are alternatives

there is also umbras if what you like in striker is burst damage by high rof

[inland pawn]

SHD 905, 100,756 WD, 48% CHC, 161% CHD

Striker w/st elmos, dark winter obliterate on the chest.

The shotgun smg striker strat always got me killed.

Coyotes mask

[kind veldt]

well you only use ACS to build stacks fast and in very close range, mixing it with an SMG drasticly limits your range

[neon wyvern]

slap a memento on a striker build with blues if you hate death

[kind veldt]

numbers dont look bad

[unique summit]

I just ran a CP with striker crash site with an overlapping elite resource convoy. Took 4.5 mins.

Is that too slow still or you tryin to go faster than that?

[neon wyvern]

is crash site the one with the plane

[unique summit]

yea

Would be way faster w/o that convoy I think 😛

[inland pawn]

That's fast

[neon wyvern]

It seems average speed if you get a good spot and enemies just keep coming

Like demolition site tends to be

or the choke

[unique summit]

i just posted a video of it in #ask-td2-community. i went down once b/c i'm stoopid. mainly though i'm trying to perfect my positioning under that wing.

a lot of it is remembering where they spawn and picking spots where you're relatively safe

but still close enough to do a lot of dmg

for most CPs i have a "route" i like

and i just follow it every time, for that build

[kind veldt]

think hte problem might just be your aim and positioning, if you can pressure enemies close to their spawns you can clean it up fast

[unique summit]

keeps the stacks up too

the AI really punishes if you don't aggress them

they love to flank

actually i think the more you run around in wide arcs the easier it is

b/c the AI is always out of position

on solar farm i like to just run around all over

[inland pawn]

I only run 3 directives anyway, on account of pistolero and fog of war being more of a pain. Stragglers you can't see suck and gunner sort of someone solves the armour replen issue.

The lighting in game really does not help.

[unique summit]

thats another benefit of moving around b/c it forces the ai to move too

i feel like every time i switch positions the AI does too

[neon wyvern]

what if ur on fog of war kestrel

You know where the general position of the enemies are already

[unique summit]

ye i just didnt have it turned on. i ignore the radar even when i have it.

[inland pawn]

Thing is I use walker harris & co chest for the +5% wd

cause the stats don't account for the coyote talent

[unique summit]

#ask-td2-community message

3.5 min basically, with all directives except pistolero

so the elite convoy added like 1 min i guess

[inland pawn]

so retrospectively, I should from the range I usually sit, be at 58% chc and 171% chd

[unique summit]

personally i don't like relying on coyotee mid range buffs

b/c close range is when you need the most dmg in open world (b/c you might be in trouble)

so i'll run 58% chc and coyote, even though i could lower it to 52% chc and buff chd a bit

i think of coyote as "better grupo" more than anything else

[rocky jewel]

Should i do the modern cyberhunter style outfit?

think it be a great idea

[inland pawn]

I can't win in other words. Lose wd, chd or chc in place of the other.

[small spear]

weapon damage still loses to crit, especially on striker

[unique summit]

i mean define winning because more dmg = winning 😄

winning != having all stats

[small spear]

pretty much, that's opportunity cost for you

[fiery cloud]

Hope Everbody had a great werkenf

Good night

😴😴

[unique summit]

@inland pawn ok last one, was having fun comparing: #ask-td2-community message

you can see how much better nego is in open world. imo it's the best for solo heroic.

positioning is the same pretty much but who you shoot is different

it just pressures the AI so much more and you dont have to worry about stacks

[inland pawn]

You shoot multiple than just hit the highest if you can.

Yeah, I've been considering that set.

[unique summit]

it replaced high end dps for me. deleted all my high end dps loadouts after making the nego build.

[opal radish]

With nego just get your target priority right

[inland pawn]

You can essentially smash small groups super quick.

[kind veldt]

negotiator is better for mobs no question asked

[wet igloo]

in order to fail flawless on incursion do u need to be down and bleed or completely down?

[opal radish]

Down and you fail

[wet igloo]

as in?

[small spear]

you go down, you fail

[wet igloo]

as in bleeding out or completely?

[opal radish]

Nope just going down

[small spear]

completely down = die, we just call it dying

[wet igloo]

ok then fair enough

[kind veldt]

if anyone has to get you back up or your own revive hive it counts as down

[tropic breach]

how do i leave countdown? lmao I had to quit the game itself

[kind veldt]

you either die like a dog or extract like a man jk

[wet igloo]

or just leave like getting told off a raid

[hybrid ore]

Pause > Social > [your name] > "Leave".

[kind veldt]

usually map menu has an return to DC option also

[tropic breach]

thank you ser

[potent condor]

leaves the riven

"what kind of bullets can handle legendary difficulty "

😭

mfw someone asks this question

[tropic breach]

I did, thats why Ill just have to try legendary and find out. Thats why I deleted my question.

I apologize for having 62 hours on TD2 thats very welcoming

[hybrid ore]

We're happy to answer any questions here, some people just like to act as if it's a burden for some reason.

If the public page is getting to be a bit much, my DM's are always open to anyone that needs it.

[potent condor]

it's not about the bullets

it's more so about what build you're playing with

and your teammates builds

syngeries and what not

[tropic breach]

awesome I appreciate it alot. Im enjoying td2 so far and will have alot more fun and knowledge about the game.

[tropic breach]

thank you. I didnt say "bullet" I did say what kind of "builds" 😅

[potent condor]

just shoot a pic of your build in build advice

someone should be able to tell you what works and what doesn't

[wet igloo]

5 meret runs no oreo

[real creek]

It's 10% from the box and 1% from the bosses. Expect 30-60 runs if no one shares it to you, not counting box opens.

[wet igloo]

ik

[real creek]

Well why the 5 run comment if you know it'll be a bunch of runs?

[kind veldt]

Believe in you that believes in you

[real creek]

Have you ever had a dream that that you um you had you'd you would you could you'd do you wi you wants you you could do so you you'd do you could you you want you want him to do you so much you could do anything?

[heavy lily]

whens weekly reset?

[hybrid ore]

Same time each week, which is in 27 hours from now, ish.

[heavy lily]

so tuesday

[hybrid ore]

if you google "division timer" there's a site called "ruben", has a lot of good info on it, and down the bottom of the page there's a website that links to a timer.

I avoid specific days, since I'm over 15 hours ahead of most of the USA.

[heavy lily]

alright thank u

[dapper aspen]

servers down for anyone

[oak prawn]

No? Granted I haven't been on in a couple days

I assume not usually servers go down on Tuesdays

As far as I'm aware there is no maintenance this week I think

Or I could be wrong

[opal radish]

No maintenance today afaik

[oak prawn]

Anything interesting happening in game

[opal radish]

Nope

[oak prawn]

Alr ill check on 2 or 3 weeks from now when target number 3 drops

Guys black tusk is giving out free ice-cream at tidal basin

[sterile ferry]

what flavor?

[dire flicker]

do you get countdown tokens if you just kill the hunter and leave?

[sterile ferry]

dont be that guy

[dire flicker]

literally takes 20 minutes to find a group and then literally everone leaves after killing the hunter so i am assuming yes but i wanted to check

[hybrid ore]

What difficulty are you playing on?

Because Challenging takes about 5 seconds for me, and I'm in the sticks of the world.

[dire flicker]

heroic

[hybrid ore]

Heroic is only really played by dedicated groups.
and Challenging is basically Heroic in Countdown due to weird scaling.
Think of Chall as Heroic minus, and Heroic as Heroic plus plus.

[dire flicker]

ok

thank you

[fluid meadow]

Challenging is more like hard plus

[unique summit]

not true at all

like at all

been playing heroic countdown for over a year... solo matchmaking. groups are rare

maybe 1 of 10, or even 1 of 15, groups fail it. most of the time it ends up fine.

and the heroic version rolls are better

and you get significantly more countdown req

[tender wave]

If everyone leaves after killing the first hunter, that implies it went so badly they realise extraction will be impossible, so they bail. Heroic requires at least half the team have competent dps builds to carry the others

[unique summit]

100% correct. Usually it starts with one person disconnecting/crashing in the beginning... and then the status resist buff for the Hunter... and then one side gets wiped or close to it... then one person dips... now you're less 2 people with another 4 down from a Hunter so another person leaves. And it's done 😂

[fluid meadow]

Heroic may give more creds. But it's insanely inconsistent with randoms

[unique summit]

"insanely" is over the top. It's usually fine.

But that's on PC, I don't know how it goes down on consoles.

[inner harness]

Atleast on xbox it can be days b4 I see a wipe

[devout girder]

I Wud have to disagree, I’ve been back playing the game for about 5 days after a year out
Challenging easy as hell no issues
Heroic I’ve failed more than I have passed due to team getting wiped at the extraction phrase

[devout girder]

Makes sense I’m on console so that could be why the difference of experiences