td2-general-chat

[rich shadow]

sure

[frozen meadow]

Cuz I was running same shit and doing fine

[rich shadow]

maybe you're right, like i said i only played for a short while yesterday, and was first time in incursion, might be just placebo

[frozen meadow]

Took like 2-3 mags per health bar on Johnson/Martinez

I felt the enemies were easy as hell to kill

[rich shadow]

shit was dying fast, especially those big dudes. but regular elites were taking 25-35 rounds

[frozen meadow]

Cuz I was again one-tapping with hhf

Four people with HHF would breeze tanker

[rich shadow]

any absolute info on HP of incursion mobs yet?

[wintry wraith]

yea, they die easily lol

[frozen meadow]

I'm fairly confident it's just regular heroic or weaker

How do you test?

[rich shadow]

use HHHF - kill them in one shot, see how much dmg you did. Then take something off to lower damage, then retest

until finally they dont die in 1 shot - see damage you did - you're almost there

[frozen meadow]

So there's no easy way to get an exact

[rich shadow]

not that I know of - skill issue

[frozen meadow]

Unfortunate

Meh someone else can do that shit

[wintry wraith]

eevee, u down for another round of the incursion before i go to work?

[frozen meadow]

No sorry I have work and school

[wintry wraith]

kk

[azure lintel]

My mad theory is that Ceska gear is specifically engineered to drop with crappy rolls

Unfortunately I'm a major hoarder and have a stash full (currently 298/300) of perfect gear I might never use. Absolutely none of it is Ceska, in any slot

[prisma flicker]

Hi, I’ve just got the comm that’s after the boss “Wright”. Not sure if anyone has mentioned it yet. I know there was some confusion earlier

After you kill the the boss “Moss” after the tanker, to your left there is a painting on the wall, remove that and there is a button, should reveal a key

[hexed moss]

Am I the only one having instant crashes when loading the game today ? I haven't had any crash since months and yesterday it ran perfectly fine

[tropic compass]

Finally managed to beat wright

[agile pendant]

damn eagle bearer is dropping from incurs??

[earnest folio]

No, only from Raid "Dark Hours" and DZ's

[agile pendant]

https://www.reddit.com/r/Division2/comments/16z74ix/eagle_bearer_from_new_incursion/

[azure lintel]

Nah it's dropping from new incursion

[earnest folio]

Developers didn't tell us about that, maybe it's a bug.

[lone valve]

Holy shit it's dropping from the incursion

What in the world

[pale elk]

Hey where raid voice channel gone?

[reef reef]

removed by Ubisoft

[pale elk]

Ok

Why though lol

It was active pretty much I was playing with peeps like 2months ago

[lone valve]

You can use the community server instead
That has lfg and voice

[pale elk]

Where I can find ? It

[lone valve]

I can dm you it if you want

[reef reef]

They claimed "it was too hard to moderate" and "could cause legal troubles". I cant speak to the second note but the first was untrue, the mod team had minimal problems with moderating voice channels.

[gleaming bramble]

is it still possible to get st elmos engine?

[reef reef]

yes

[gleaming bramble]

summit?

focused assault rifles i guess.

[lone valve]

Summit or countdown

[agile pendant]

yeh it dropped from countdown

but last season i had like 4-5 of them drop for me 💀 😂

[gleaming bramble]

think ill stick to summit

[agile pendant]

countdown honestly is better imo, i see good stuff drop from it. plus a good run = one exotic cache

[gleaming bramble]

ive done countdown once.

[coral musk]

I've run two countdowns so far this patch

game 1 went normal, game 2 physically wouldn't have the objective doors open 🤣

we even went and did VIP because we were bored, still nope

and then icing on the cake, time ran out, and it never let us call for extraction

[agile pendant]

did you have a glitched instance?? its ez to spot, all your team will spawn in the same location

[coral musk]

no

game ran as normal, it just never updated the objectives

[gleaming bramble]

im getting so tired of this jittering bs for this game

[coral musk]

the jittering sounds like your internet connection

[tropic compass]

Lol i got the ouroboros exotic

[gleaming bramble]

i can promise you its not.

its like a visual stutter when i aim. look around or turn my mouse

[meager pewter]

looted a "creative magazine SMG" what is this?

[lone valve]

I'm pretty sure that's a part for the chatterbox exotic smg

[agile pendant]

first clear?? yeh but they nerfed that weapon quite a lot

[real creek]

It just came out? How'd they nerf it already?

[small spear]

nerfed from pts, base rof is 10% lower

[agile pendant]

it was nerfed from the pts to live, rate of fire is considerably lower. it was around 1700-1850 on pts depending on the build

[real creek]

I don't consider PTS to be the standard, it is what it currently is and that's baseline to me. I don't get how people consider 10% "considerable".

[small spear]

yeah i mean if you pick that as the baseline then you wouldn't see any changes, agree too that 10% isn't considerable. the weapon is too busted for that 10% to be considerable

[real creek]

Yeah people are acting like the weapon doesn't wipe the floor vs pretty much every SMG and probably goes toe to toe with ones with higher optimal range while suffering the damage loss because it's that powerful.

[timber hatch]

It's like 10% weaker than it was in the pts and is still ridiculously OP.in its current state

[tender notch]

TLDR it was like 80% OP on PTS, now its only 70% OP

[neon wyvern]

[real creek]

lol but the masses probably aren't gonna use it like the Elmo, at least for PVE. Would be cool to see way more HF builds running around.

[lone valve]

I'll definitely use my HF build more with it

[wintry wraith]

i just beat the incursion again, still cant figure out that comm to get

[fair lake]

Hoe many comms do you have? We have 8/10

[tropic compass]

Does global difficulty affect incursion?

[wintry wraith]

the only one ive been trying to get is the one stuck in the golden doors

[tender notch]

no, its a fixed difficulty

[frozen meadow]

I don't think it's possible to get the comm behind the door

[gleaming bramble]

i got the St elmo 😄

two countdown runs

[frozen meadow]

k

[neon wyvern]

o

[wintry wraith]

Found an easier way to deal with the lovebirds tho lol

[frozen meadow]

How

[wispy heron]

What door?

[wintry wraith]

Literally just kill Johnson even with Martinez at full health, and just take ur time lol

[frozen meadow]

The one with the comm behind it

[frozen meadow]

Easier said than done

[wispy heron]

There's a lot of doors

[frozen meadow]

Not with comms behind them

[wintry wraith]

I just beat it 5 mins ago doing that, was so easy 😂

[frozen meadow]

There's like uh

One

[wispy heron]

Is it a door underground?

With a golden gate?

[wintry wraith]

It's the one behind the Golden door after second boss

[frozen meadow]

And how much damage did you do

Oh wait

[wintry wraith]

None cause I just heal those guys 🤣

[frozen meadow]

Can't say it's easy when you don't do it

Just sayin

[wintry wraith]

U can also emp the kid as well, so that was a plus

[wispy heron]

Yeah that door is accessible then

[frozen meadow]

How

[wispy heron]

With a key from painting

[frozen meadow]

What the fuck

[wispy heron]

Ah

[wintry wraith]

Wat the fk

[wispy heron]

Look

[frozen meadow]

@lone valve what the fuck

[wispy heron]

After you kill named cleaner

And enter the building

[frozen meadow]

Wright

No that's the first boss ya fart

[wispy heron]

Ah

[wintry wraith]

Lmao

[frozen meadow]

Before you climb down the ladder into the underground area

After phoenix Wright

[wispy heron]

So that's where the last one

We haven't found how to access it too

Needs more checking

[wintry wraith]

I'm gonna do the incursion again after work and see if I can experiment with everything

[meager pewter]

It is thanks 🙂

[frozen meadow]

Oh my god I was attacked by a bee

Anyways

[wintry wraith]

Cause when u look at the map, the comm is in a room connected to another house/room outside of the building in general

[lone valve]

Yea

[frozen meadow]

You being a good point

[wintry wraith]

So many there is a secret path

[frozen meadow]

There's gotta be a key somewhere

[wintry wraith]

I'm derermind

Determind*

[wispy heron]

There may be something to shoot or somewhere to throw grenade for

[frozen meadow]

Tried grenades

[undone nebula]

How I can destroy the turret in paradise lost?

[wintry wraith]

With bullets

[lone valve]

You can emp it and then on the left turret you climb up on the platform and destroy the box through a hole
On the right emp it and climb onto the truck and shoot the box through the hole

[kind veldt]

i use a decoy

since it also stop any adds might spawn at the wrong time

[keen spade]

anyone figured out all the collectibles in incursions yet?

[mossy wigeon]

How long is left after the oil truck

[kind veldt]

2 more parts

[mossy wigeon]

Damn

[kind veldt]

they are both just boss fights

so it's faster or slower depending purely on the team

axe guy tends to be fast and liverbirds longer until people get the groove going

we just dont know yet

[lone valve]

Anyone have wright agro onto ur healer hive
I just did lol

Which gives me an idea

[real creek]

Yeah it's still one of the best games for visuals imo, just the amount of models and clutter everywhere is so good.

[modern vapor]

last mission now for manhunt

[kind veldt]

okay played around with tip of the spear

it's just...bad

still one of the most "why even?" decisions on this game

[mighty matrix]

@kind veldt thanks for doing it so I don't have to

[nimble iron]

Is outboros gauranteed incursion drop?

[tender notch]

no only 10% from weekly reward and 1% from boss

[nimble iron]

Oh ok thanks..

[kind veldt]

?

[cinder nacelle]

Yeah looks amazing still despite how old it is especially at 6060fps.

[tropic compass]

Hopefully these 10k shd players listen and can compete incursions

[cinder nacelle]

I've made it to what seems to be the first real boss but then someone left and the group disbanded. Thought we could have gone all the way as we were doing so well. 😢

[real creek]

60 fps!? I just cap my game at 145 even tho my monitor is 165. Eh good enough.

[frosty wadi]

Whats everyones thoughts on the incursion

Personally I think its just too overtuned especially for a mode that is designed to have matchmaking

[modern vapor]

is there anything new apart from the exotic smg ?

[wispy heron]

Incursion, lmg, chest, season

[modern vapor]

no I mean in the incursion, people say it is like raid mechanics

[tender dome]

Who’s even done the incursion

[hybrid ore]

Incursions are kinda like smaller Raids but they only use 4 Agents.
They're originally from div1.

[tender dome]

I’m with two others stuck on the last boss

[hybrid ore]

The one in div2 is new though.

[wintry wraith]

I've done it twice, it's pretty easy

[copper shoal]

It is designed for coordinated team and have matchmaking as option.

[frosty wadi]

One person can easily make it fall apart

As well it very much is a damage check at times

[tender dome]

Cos I’m stuck on the last boss

[frosty wadi]

Love that the devs lied about the damage check statement

[wintry wraith]

Not even a damage check

Just get in the flow of it and ur golden. The first 2 bosses are cake, love birds is a little tough

[frosty wadi]

Legit one person messing up ruins the second fight

I didn’t end up finishing today because my first team had to go and then my team after didn’t reach halfway until like 40 minutes later

[wintry wraith]

Sounds like skill issues lol, both parts took like... 30 mins max 😂

[azure lintel]

Dang. When your whole anxiety revolves around not letting people down, this is going to suck

Think I'm just going to play it safe and bring a healer. You can't really get that wrong

[frosty wadi]

They really should’ve play tested this with actual players because I can’t see a random match made team ever doing it at all

[lone valve]

I mean it's a different story when ur playing with randoms

[wintry wraith]

The people I did with were randoms

[kind veldt]

compared to div1 incursions

overturned for sure

[lone valve]

My first day one group
Got up to lovebirds
And most wipe at the wright boss

[kind veldt]

but it's doable with competent randoms, was able to do it twice

[frosty wadi]

Like this new one is literally just a 4 player raid

[lone valve]

Yes it is

[kind veldt]

did they say that somewhere, cause moss is 100% a damage check

[lone valve]

Is that the final boss

[fiery cloud]

Hey EEvee , Azurmen32,Souless, Rivens

[red comet]

Iron Lung is bugged? Drops with double crit dmg mods instead of 1 crit chance and 1 crit dmg mod

[empty crag]

based Iron Lung?

[lone valve]

@frosty wadi lmk ur availability tmrw and what times and we can do the incursion if you want

[kind veldt]

nah the truck guy

[lone valve]

Oh I barely see his name ngl
Too busy blocking his shots

[kind veldt]

either damage check or tank check

[lone valve]

An overcharge on that part is a god send tbh

[empty crag]

Moss I think

[lone valve]

And someone with a shield

[kind veldt]

lovebirds are not exactly damage check

but having 4 DPS lets you one cycle them

[lone valve]

With them I've had good luck just emp the kid

[empty crag]

has anyone duoed the Incursion yet?

[kind veldt]

or you can just kill johnson so fast that he skips to putting down the healing boss and then kill him before he finishes fixing the kid

[honest storm]

@low gulch Please let the dev team know they did a great job with this incursion. Feels good to play. I look forward to the PvP updates as well. Also, welcome back.

[wintry wraith]

For people who wanna do the incursion, if u want a quick run, I'll help out later tonight after work lol

If ur pc lol

[lone valve]

I would like to have a good talking to
To people running a skill dps build in the incursion

[small spear]

it works in mah legendary so it works here right

[red comet]

It was one crit chance and one crit dmg mod on PTS and there was no mention of a change.

[lone valve]

I did see my first player running the exuro fire turret build on it
Altough idk how good it'd be there

[kind veldt]

eh... not much

the mechanics are more troublesome than the adds

[lone valve]

I'm interested in the set itself
But yea I wouldn't run it on the incursion
Tbh the adds can be a pain with wright
Especially the rushers

[summer crescent]

guys, does your game crashes when targeting casie shop on the map and then closing the map?

crashes all the time

on pc that is

[kind veldt]

some people have a map crash if they double click in it

[summer crescent]

i've just clicked once to target it, and then closed the map, after that closure, game crashes

[wise basalt]

can the incursion box still be opened if u jump in at any stage or it can only be opened if you go thru all 4 stages?

[wispy heron]

i don't think you can jump through stages

[forest mantle]

does the busy little bee not have a supressed sound or am i tripping?

[kind veldt]

final boss drops the key ie believe

[wise basalt]

ok cool, just wanted me make sure if i joined a grp at the last boss, that the box could still be open and that you didn't have to beat all the bosses at each stage in order to open

[azure lintel]

Surprises me that folks don't include Dark Winter in more crit builds. Maybe I'm missing something obvious

[kind veldt]

cause it's a cointoss if the shot that kills is a crit or not

[azure lintel]

Actually that's fair. OK

[gusty swallow]

what are the prereq's for the incursion? it's just a lv 40 character and have owned and complete wlony right?

[kind veldt]

so you can get a kill and not proc the talent, so people prefer consistency with other talents that are always there

[nimble fox]

Yes you can open if you join on last boss

[kind veldt]

yeah, might need to talk to pilot go there first

[nimble fox]

I didn’t even talk to chopper. Just fast traveled after I watched cutscene

[silent nymph]

jesus the final boss in incrusrion will make me loose my shit here

[gusty swallow]

hmm ok, i tried to matchmake and it told me prereq's not met

[fair lake]

Has anyone found last 2 comms and 3-rd artifact in the Incursion?

[tender notch]

just need to be level 40 BUT because its hard, you also need good builds to do it. @gusty swallow

[nimble fox]

More importantly, a mic and don’t be stubborn. Be open minded cause there is a couple things that works

[tender notch]

also you can only get level 40 if you own the DLC.

[fair lake]

Only 2 people need to have mic (fire hunter and lovebirds) - everything else is doable without mic

[kind veldt]

it's a learning experience like first time legendary

[solid creek]

can u lfg in incursion if someone leave on midway?

[kind veldt]

yeah but it needs to be in a not boss area in between

[fair lake]

Yes, just like raid. Not like Descent

[kind veldt]

did with no mics and random the second time

[solid creek]

i m on 2nd boss room do i need to run bacxk or what?

[kind veldt]

just telling people what to do first and letting them wipe to learn a bit worked fine

[fair lake]

Nice. How much time did it take?

[gusty swallow]

i guess i needed to watch the cutscene first

[kind veldt]

took a bit, but most important was that they were open to listening

[nimble fox]

You can do no mics as long as everyone knows what to do but I matchmade into a group with a guy wearing 5 piece striker, and a skill build and something else. You won’t do it with no mic with that group

[kind veldt]

as long whoever has the boss aggro understand that running in circles is more useful by keeping the boss neutered and the rest deal with adds and mechanics it's gold

remember kids

ACS-12 striker is your friend against bosses

[nimble fox]

We used two dedicated people to kite the boss, and then the other two just kill adds, Im gonna try oneshotting him like we oneshot razorback in dh. I think it works

[fair lake]

With Ravenous and D50? Or Busy Little Bee and stacks?

[nimble fox]

Either, but I think they’re stacking busy bee on boss 4, overcharge, Achilles pulse and killing him one shot before the sniper turrets even come out. I was talking about my dh raid build for boss 3 but I’m gonna try both I believe. Boss 4 is the only issue cause you all have to shoot the drone and you all have to shoot the boss together

[fair lake]

We just kill Johnson first (without touching Martines) and then it's ez)

[kind veldt]

mostly because if oyu get him to half health he switches to deploying the healing box so you can cancel him fixing the kid to deploying box and get more damage to one cycle him

[azure lintel]

Hellos' was wondering if someone or a clan would be insterted in helping a new player? brand new >.<

[fair lake]

In general, the biggest pain is checking healing drone and sniping turrets

[kind veldt]

decoy works for a second against the sniper turret

since was full red with no skill tier just basic revive hive and decoy for the most of it

[fair lake]

I may consider medic with decoy, like I did on entrance turrets today. Worked like charm

[wintry wraith]

Tbh I need a clan my self lol, should look around

[loud wigeon]

Hello, is there anyone who wants to go to the lost paradise for the first boss +1 dps?

[granite forge]

I just got to lvl 40. I don't really have clear direction now. What should I do next?

[haughty fable]

someone said Paradise Lost is harder than div 1 incursions? 💀

did someone forget Dragons Nest

[wintry wraith]

Just about the same difficulty lol

[fair lake]

Not hard but really tedious

[haughty fable]

then again div 1 is tougher than 2 in general but not for the right reasons

[kind veldt]

eh... classified striker exists

dragons nest was not so bad

stolen signal is probably harder

[wintry wraith]

That one was protecting the guy from the turret?

[zinc shadow]

yea

[wintry wraith]

Hella annoying

Like wasn't even fun, it was obnoxious

[zinc shadow]

I thought that was the easiest part of the Incursion lol

[kind veldt]

i just found funny that could have been the only itme for mobile cover to shine as a skill

nope cant use it for that

[zinc shadow]

apparently ppl do

[haughty fable]

I forgot about signal honestly

[narrow elm]

anyone else keeps crashing when trying to fast travel to caslte

[empty crag]

ain't no way

😿 I remember at Clear Sky I can see Central Park makes me sad no Central Park DZ Expansion

[jagged shuttle]

any one can tell me is the raid voice chats disabled or something because I came back after a year and I dont see any raid voice chats here ?

[zinc shadow]

check #news-and-announcements and stuff they're gone

[vale rune]

This incursion is the hardest ever, div1 incursion is nothing compared to this paradise lost

There are so much elements in this game that makes it impossible

[empty crag]

@haughty fable

[tender notch]

its in #discord-news fyi for the VC update

[empty crag]

it's a glorified dps check

[wintry wraith]

Not even, it's a mode to see if people are raid ready lol

[empty crag]

it pretty much is

the tanker part is 100% dps check, Wright is dps check for the ads

[wintry wraith]

But It's so easy lol

[tender notch]

its easy if you have the dps (hence dps check)

[empty crag]

^

[wintry wraith]

I want to go in there with a skill dps build lol

Imma use vile

[empty crag]

i don't think that would do much

aren't they all mostly immune

[vale rune]

Ok. So only special builds are possible, People have all kind of builds and it should be possible to complete but when there is limited time to complete objectives i hate that.

[empty crag]

what u talking about here?

[orchid comet]

Dude I'm so lost on the second boss

the first phase is fine, its the second thats got me off

[haughty fable]

💀

[wintry wraith]

I run a healer build and make sure people stays alive lol

[empty crag]

what's to be lost on have someone kite Wright, someone stay by the valves and 2 ad clear

[wintry wraith]

FL is op

[haughty fable]

imagine how boring the game would be if nothing in the game ever had a counter and you could just run over every piece of content with any build

it's a looter shooter you're supposed to try different stuff like what even

[empty crag]

I think they wanted this with the Incursion but doesn't seem like they're there yet

power creep is getting rather crazy for it to happen

[orchid comet]

wright is the first boss?

[empty crag]

2nd

[wintry wraith]

Second

[kind veldt]

moss, wright and loverbirds

[empty crag]

Moss
Wright
The Lovebirds

unless you don't count Moss

[haughty fable]

idk what they were expecting

[kind veldt]

mofo drops lood

[haughty fable]

incursions are just raids for 4 people

[kind veldt]

well "roles" here are murkier

[orchid comet]

did i miss something???

[haughty fable]

like of course there's gonna be a specific counter you need to play into

[empty crag]

did you kill the dude who opens the door at the tanker part?

that's the first boss

[kind veldt]

he only cares about that tanker

[wintry wraith]

You beat it yet? :o

[empty crag]

the tanker part is total filler

[tender dome]

Has anyone done the last boss

[kind veldt]

man i wish chatterbox was more interesting to use in the incursion

[empty crag]

Ouroboros is better chatterbox

[kind veldt]

plenty of people have killed

ouroboros is just best gun that happens to be an exotic

[haughty fable]

like imagine if I just started going around complaining because I can't use eclipse protocol on robotic enemies lol

[kind veldt]

still ahve to get mine

[empty crag]

lol

[azure lintel]

I imagined it, it was pretty cool honestly

[wintry wraith]

Imma farm the incursion bosses today to see if I can get it

[empty crag]

this Incursion is good but leaves some to be desired

[haughty fable]

i have yea

[empty crag]

but it's on the right track for them to make another one

[wintry wraith]

Make a harder one

[haughty fable]

I wanna see them bring a NY one back

[modern vapor]

so basically only play the incursion if u have a pinpoint build ?

[haughty fable]

give us Clear Sky

or something that takes place in central park

[empty crag]

I think there needs to be more puzzles

[wintry wraith]

No, only play the incursion if u have a decent build and eyes and ears

[empty crag]

like the secret enterence part should have been a puzzle room

but they just gave away the book

[haughty fable]

you'll need communication too

[kind veldt]

nah i dont think they need to push more coordination or makes enemy tankiers

[haughty fable]

since randoms seem to think boss mechanic = impossible

[empty crag]

I think they need to work on more interesting boss mechanics

[kind veldt]

that i'm okay with

i dont mind clear sky since it has a basic but fun concept, same with dragons nest

[empty crag]

I think Boomer is one of the best ones tbh

in Div 2 bosses

[haughty fable]

I just want something clear sky reminiscent

[kind veldt]

box makes arena be on fire, move around or have a good healer

[haughty fable]

I just wanna see central park in game

[wintry wraith]

Actually I thought this boss mechanic was very unique lol, lovebird and the son xD

[empty crag]

see? we never been there lul

[haughty fable]

or maybe like a madison square garden incursion

[empty crag]

we can only see it through DZ09 and Clear Sky

pretty sure DZ Central park woulda been mostly Cleaners anyway though

love Cleaners but 😿 love me more LMB

wish there was another LMB incursion than the wave one we got

[haughty fable]

they're running out of D.C landmarks to redress

[empty crag]

we haven't been to Langley yet

Virginia is good

[kind veldt]

Ismt that outside of DC?

Like other state?

[empty crag]

I think Virginia and Maryland would fit tbh

[haughty fable]

the pentagon is in virginia

[empty crag]

most of the government stuff is around those 2 states

[haughty fable]

just 90km from the border of maryland lol

[kind veldt]

Good point then

[empty crag]

I think DC needs Virginia cause of DC being so small

[haughty fable]

I just wanna see more NY stuff

but im biased since thats where im from

i wanna shoot up my favorite pizza shop

[empty crag]

I wouldn't mind seeing more stuff of Maryland just cause of the setting

[kind veldt]

I just want more shotguns exotics

[orchid comet]

I totally forgot about him

[kind veldt]

New team made 2 new LMGs, 2 new snipers but no shotgun

[orchid comet]

I didn't even count him as a boss cause he died so fast

[haughty fable]

like landmarks in warlords are really lackluster

[orchid comet]

and had no mechanics

[haughty fable]

we have Coney Island and Empire State with the Summit

[empty crag]

well it's only a small part of NYC

[haughty fable]

but still

[kind veldt]

His mechanics is being a surprise mechanic

[haughty fable]

i want more

[kind veldt]

Players just love it ;)

[empty crag]

ERM AKSHUALLY Coney Island was Year 1 ☝️ 🤓

[haughty fable]

I think pentco is the NY power plant too but i could be wrong there

it just seems like the usual difference between like NY and D.C locations are the lighting

NY locations are always shown as night time it seems like

[empty crag]

well the thing is you're from NY so you can think of locations, I don't even know wtf DC has besides the obvious government buildings

DC is kind of a lackluster location if I'm being fr

nothing beats NYC

[haughty fable]

I mean

there's a shit ton of cool stuff to see in D.C

they nailed most of it with the main missions and strongholds, etc.

there's just not a whole lot left when it comes to new additions now

[empty crag]

but DC is a pretty small area so not much

[haughty fable]

we got camp david, we got the pentagon, we got the smithsonian

there's only a few more things to check off the list

[empty crag]

we only had a part of Manhattan in Div 1

[empty crag]

Pentagon is in Virginia

[haughty fable]

well yeah

people just consider it a D.C landmark since its like right there

[empty crag]

I think Div2 is much more mobile

[haughty fable]

you just cross the potomac

[empty crag]

if you think about it

[haughty fable]

Descent gives me like vibes of what the devs think the presidential bunkers look like

especially now that we have that sketchy entrance in the castle lol

[empty crag]

wonder if they could make something going into Pennsylvania

[haughty fable]

I know a lot of people thing Pittsburg will be the next game

since there's a lot of ingame lore pointing to stuff there

plus Pittsburg would make a nice location to have a pretty vast like seasonal weather system

[empty crag]

Philadelphia is close to DC

[haughty fable]

thats gonna be the big sell for me though on div 3

no seasonal weather then i skip

[empty crag]

I would like to go west coast tbh

San Francisco or Los Angeles

[haughty fable]

I feel like midwest would be less bland imo

like Colorado

Denver would be a great city for a game

[empty crag]

what you talking about? they have monsters there

[empty crag]

New Orleans be better

[haughty fable]

I don't want a constant yellow baked filter over the whole game and thats exactly what we'll get if the location is in Cali

[empty crag]

it's kind of the same thing people are discussioning for the next Fallout location.

[haughty fable]

nothing but dry ass sunshine

[empty crag]

San Franscisco can get pretty foggy

I think a more rainy and foggy setting be cool

[haughty fable]

you could still pull that off

especially in CO

foggy days in CO you can't see 5 feet infront of your face

[empty crag]

but CO doesn't have the landmarks like SF

San Francisco is like the NY of the West Coast

[zinc shadow]

uhh... there is?

[empty crag]

Seattle be maybe a nice setting

[haughty fable]

it was pitts or philedelphia

i could've mixed them up

[empty crag]

Pitt.. makes me think of the Pitt Expedition from F76

[haughty fable]

also what you mean CO has no landmarks

you ever been to Denver?

[scarlet hollow]

during descent can you terminate division 2 application and reopen to the same loop?

[empty crag]

why would we go to CO before SF?

[zinc shadow]

i don't think either of those are particularly relevant lore wise lol

[empty crag]

yk if they made a SF location game could they set the game around the same time as Div 1?

[haughty fable]

You got the Botanic Gardens, the Art museum, The Denver Airport, 16th Street Mall, the Cathedral, etc

[empty crag]

South Park

[haughty fable]

plus a nice shiny marble capitol building that could easily be a division headquarters

Denver is huge

[zinc shadow]

not really the rest of the country was not nearly as bad at the time, the quarantines were holding and it wasn't entirely dire

[haughty fable]

then you could start pulling outside locations all over colorado

[zinc shadow]

it was going to be but like in a few months lol

[haughty fable]

like Colorado Springs

Red Rocks

[empty crag]

but with SF you can have much more diverse sort of setting

Chinatown, Golden Gate bridge

[haughty fable]

the weather in SF would just be the same case people complain about for D.C

you either get tropical sunny

[empty crag]

SF is pretty foggy

[haughty fable]

or crappy foggy rainy

[empty crag]

that's cool, I dig that

I personally think we should let the snow be Div 1

[haughty fable]

Denver could easily pull all 4 seasons and have little mini weather bits within those too

[empty crag]

but San Fransciso is usually not that hot since it's right by the ocean

[haughty fable]

imagine playing during fall weather in CO with all the trees

[empty crag]

I don't think Denver snowy would capture the same as NYC snowy

[haughty fable]

suddenly so much color

Denver has had some massive blizzards like NY

[zinc shadow]

Colorado, Rocky Mountains state I could dig it

[haughty fable]

could easily put a blizzard event in and it'd fit fine during winter season

monsoons during the summer

animals everywhere during the spring

[empty crag]

what about Chicago?

Chicago or Detroit

[haughty fable]

that could work too yeah

[empty crag]

it's alot closer to Div 1 and Div 2 setting

[haughty fable]

I'm just tryna think of places with actual diverse weather other than like 2 moods

[empty crag]

I think they want to stay in the East Coast vicinity

[haughty fable]

Cali would just be a lot of what we're already seeing with D.C

[fiery cloud]

MENDOSA maybe Bugged every time i get ready to goto her i crash

and why is it taking so long to load

[empty crag]

personally I like a more rainy than snowy location

Seattle comes to mind

I always like it when it's raining in Div 2

[haughty fable]

It would be interesting to see the O'Hare if they do Chicago

[empty crag]

wonder what factions would be made though

[haughty fable]

lol

they'd probably be gang inspired tbh

[empty crag]

Division falls under the same sort of thing Fallout has with factions

[haughty fable]

lots of red lots of blue

[empty crag]

you want BoS, you want Cleaners.
you want NCR or Enclave, you want Rikers or Black Tusks

[haughty fable]

before Div 2 is over narritively

I want us to go undercover as rogues to catch Natalya

would be pog asf

it wouldn't be a stretch either since they're already turning our people against us

just pretend to hop on the bandwagon and fake a rogue status

[empty crag]

they better not make her a Manhunt

that be so fricking boring

either make her a Manhunt where they fool us and we don't get her and introduce a new DLC or just skip that and new DLC

Sokolova arc needs a DLC to properly finish that, and I mean a nice hefty DLC

[haughty fable]

I honestly doubt we'll see another huge content update instead of a 3rd game

and I would just be majorly disappointed if it plays out "Oops Natalya got away time for Division 3"

[empty crag]

dunno how much of the Sokolova arc they want to push it

[haughty fable]

honestly the seasonal stories have been making us look so incompetent lately

[empty crag]

what if Natalya is just one piece of a greater puzzle?

[azure lintel]

It's one of the worst tropes in games. Baddie that just gets away, repeatedly and you never get a chance to right that

[empty crag]

"Oh look we got her wait we just opened a huge can of worms.. Div 3 time?"

[haughty fable]

Jupiter was peak storytelling for the game

after that it went downhill

[kind veldt]

i mean even the year 1 was about us bumbling around waiting for big year 2

oops president got away

oops keener isnt here

[empty crag]

ends up being killed by Faye

[kind veldt]

oops pentagon missions are not realy fun

but thats year 2

[empty crag]

how much u wanna bet Faye will come back

[azure lintel]

That story sucked IRL too, to be honest

[haughty fable]

lol yeah year 2 is just "The Division are morons"

[kind veldt]

i mean

the chickenhawk line still is great

[haughty fable]

like

[empty crag]

lmaooo

[haughty fable]

we're going after the president

probably one of the most important story notes for the narrative of the game

but how do the division prepare for it

just send in a bunch of ill equipped "soldiers"

no vehicle convoys

no air support

I wonder how he got away

[empty crag]

the mission was pretty nice though

I think the problem was that the President arc got overshadowed by other ones

I mean we had WONY right after

then S1 and S2 still about Keener

[haughty fable]

yeah and he got away basically for the same reasons

because for some reason the Divison think just sending a few people in on foot gets the job done

[empty crag]

Coney Island though was so good

[haughty fable]

no contingency plans or anything

my headcanon is

[azure lintel]

It's all good, Player One will solve it

[empty crag]

[azure lintel]

It's "Ramirez! Do literally everything" all over again

[haughty fable]

the only attack helicopter the division had some idiot decided to fly into a hovercraft turbine

[empty crag]

haha

[empty crag]

I don't think we have attack choppers

we really only have a Black Hawk

[haughty fable]

there's the 1

when you're in the zoo

but yeah it's on screen for all of 10s until a guy crashes it

oops there goes our only one I guess

[empty crag]

Recruiter though is pretty meaty story though

I think the new team is doing a bit better job storytelling tbh

[wintry wraith]

The recruiter should be a story missions that ends to a incursion where the recruiter is the final boss lol

[empty crag]

the Seasons feel alot more linear and they're growing something

[empty crag]

I think the Recruiter isn't like a super baddie but a piece to a puzzle

[kind veldt]

i do find it funny "you are going ot be rescuing the targets"

[empty crag]

he isn't on the level of Sokolova or the other guy forget his name

[haughty fable]

I like that the storywriters have realized that yeah the capitol building is a bit too big of a target to be a headquarters and I like that we're moving to the castle slowly

[kind veldt]

cue next season painting a target on a hunter

[haughty fable]

like honestly with as incompetent as the division in D.C. are made out to be

[empty crag]

☝️ 🤓 ERM IT'S THE WHITE HOUSE

[haughty fable]

it's a wonder how the white house hasn't been leveled into rubble by now

[empty crag]

I mean the White House as already been attacked remember

we got fooled during Season 11

[wintry wraith]

Wow disrespecting my man, don't make me call keener lol

[empty crag]

he isn't McManus

[haughty fable]

yeah it took 11 seasons for Manny to realize "Hey maybe this isn't a safe spot"

after several bombing threats being stopped and etc

[kind veldt]

even the most american game (made by japanese) metal wolf chaos, knows that you shouldnt blow up the white house

[empty crag]

well nobody wants to blow it up

that was just Wyvern being a looney

[kind veldt]

but it probably has one of the best infrastructures with the amount of hidden bunker 'n stuff

[haughty fable]

Wyvern has veigns of ice

like one of the best little mini villains imo

[empty crag]

Wyvern and Jupiter were like the best boss battle moments for me

[haughty fable]

fr

[empty crag]

I had SOOO much fun fighting them

it's kinda sad being so powerful now, you can't really experience those fights the same way

[haughty fable]

yeah true

their dialogue still slaps hard though

[meager pewter]

when should i start focusing on expertise and optimizations? atm lvl 40 SHD new to the game

[empty crag]

fr

[haughty fable]

"I'm looking forward to killing you. I haven't felt this way about someone in a long time"

[empty crag]

I remember feeling disappointed with Ridgeway and was like that's it?? but then Black Tusk showed up and did all the Invaded and bam hit with Wyvern

it really was so good of a fight

[haughty fable]

I laugh every time i hear this line too

"FUCK THE DIVISSSIIIOOONNN"

Rikers heavies are intense

[empty crag]

Wyvern, Dolores Jones, Dragov, Keener and Jupiter are prolly the best fights

[haughty fable]

''IT'S A FUCKING BIOWEAPON!''

[empty crag]

LOL

[haughty fable]

Jupiter + Saturn conversation is peak dialogue lol

[empty crag]

Hornet was one of the more disappointing ones

[haughty fable]

yeah

[empty crag]

dude I forgot Schaeffer is still alive

when that dude waking up😭

[wintry wraith]

Maybe ubi will be smart and let us go rogue in the story in div 3

[empty crag]

I think that needs to be handled delicately than just lets go rogue

[wintry wraith]

At this point of the story, the divison is losing alot of members cause they keep going rogue lol

[lone valve]

These goddamn sniper turrets are gonna be the bane of my existence

[haughty fable]

It would make sense to go undercover as a rogue agent to catch Natalya imo

[empty crag]

but but frontal assault

[haughty fable]

Going in guns blazing isn't working

[kind veldt]

kill them asap

[frosty wadi]

I’m in gmt and I play in the morning, around 9 am or so

[wintry wraith]

That's everything we do, go in guns blazing

[kind veldt]

for lovebirds is turrets>adds>bosses

[hybrid ore]

Great idea, we can call it "This worked so well for Lau the first time they tried it"

[empty crag]

I honestly don't fully see why Black Tusks are bad. The Division just seems like we're good cause... we're good?

[somber jewel]

Ok how the heck do you get to cassie this week. I have her unlocked on my map. When I click on her on the map to set a waypoint hte game keeps crashing

I'm trying to manually find her but she seems to be in an inaccessible part of Castle

[haughty fable]

because Keener is still behind the scenes somewhere

[cinder nacelle]

I mean The Division is basically a glorified hit squad so there's not much between us and the rogue agents.

[kind veldt]

sabotaging, taking over by force and supplying gangs with weapons so they continue to cause chaos? i mena hyenas were given their tech by blacktusk

[hybrid ore]

It's mostly the warcrimes they keep committing.

[wintry wraith]

Who was that guy in DC that work for keener and had clones that said he had dark secrets about the divison?

[haughty fable]

Hornet iirc

[empty crag]

Division has rogues so they would count against the Division

[cinder nacelle]

All we do is raid places and assassinate people. We even kill people just for playing a broadcast we don't approve of ha ha.

[hybrid ore]

Yep, and you know what we do with Rogues.
Also, Black Tusk promote people based on the amount of warcrimes they commit per-day.

[empty crag]

don't think the Division is that much better than the Black Tusks

[hybrid ore]

"ah only treason and mass murder? no pay raise for you."

[haughty fable]

Natalya has him fooled oh no

[kind veldt]

black tusks are one stone toss away from being MGR villains

[frosty wadi]

The division isn’t perfect but compared to other factions…

[empty crag]

it's called bad writing

[hybrid ore]

BT are so comically evil that they literally organised a presidential assassination.
and then killed the assassins to cover their tracks.

[empty crag]

[cinder nacelle]

Yeah. The Division are just another faction at the end of the day trying to get what we want.

[wintry wraith]

What is the divisions ultimate goal?

[kind veldt]

well a non fucky world is a good objective

[haughty fable]

everyone who was in charge is dead

[empty crag]

supporting local communities

[kind veldt]

restore proper order

[haughty fable]

all we have is manny now

[empty crag]

they ultimately aren't going to restore the government

[hybrid ore]

Literally speaking, continuation of government.
but at this point: rebuilding society.

[empty crag]

the most they can do is support local communities rebuilding

[kind veldt]

wish we would interact witjh more real agents who did stuff

and not voices on the radio

[haughty fable]

or outfits that nod to them

[empty crag]

Black Tusks and LMB were the only ones who were really tryna full on rebuild the government

[haughty fable]

lemme meet Sutton

[wintry wraith]

Ah I see

[hybrid ore]

Very much no.

[empty crag]

I think the Division is bit too reactive

[wintry wraith]

Dramatic*

[kind veldt]

BT are very much "our way or ur ded way"

[hybrid ore]

Kino, don't take this the wrong way, but did you think that Kevin Spacey's character in one of the CoD's had a few good points?

[empty crag]

you know me so well

[wintry wraith]

Ooo bought out the big guns huh riven lol

[lone valve]

Strat is keep them away from each other right
So the kid takes longer to get to them and more time to damage it right
That's what I've figured so far without watching a guid

[hybrid ore]

I said it as diplomatically as I could, I swear.

[wintry wraith]

Lmao

[empty crag]

I don't take it the wrong way

the problem I see is the Division is morally good but is too bogged down, BT and LMB are not very morally good but way more proactive and restoring something

[wintry wraith]

So wat makes u go rogue, if u just join a different faction?

[hybrid ore]

LMB ran death labour camps, BT kidnapped people and used chemical weapons and commited treason about 500x before we even arrived in DC, including killing all of our friends in the intro mission of the game.
They are so very evil and do not want to restore anything, just have control.

[empty crag]

sounds like they're trying to restore what was there before

[hybrid ore]

Let's leave out any parallels to IRL events. The game's setting is depressing enough as-is.

[haughty fable]

BT want a very different America than the Division and that's even more supported now with them allying with SoL

[empty crag]

Division isn't as bad cause they took people from the populous

[wintry wraith]

Tbh the game lore is at a weird state atm, it went from division being the good guys to now everything we fight and go again, especially the rogue agents are calling divison the bad guys cause of their bad experiences in it and such lol

[hybrid ore]

I should've said this about 15 minutes ago, but let's shift this over to #division-universe, since its all lore-y.

[empty crag]

well there's a thing called time. Div 1 is so close to the events

[haughty fable]

yeah the ending of the NYC events happen pretty simultaniously with our arrival to D.C.

[bold epoch]

Sup everyone

[azure lintel]

Not much chief, still dismantling below-average Ceska chests

How about you?

[boreal cedar]

does anyone have an issue with their ingame colors being slightly washed out almost like a thin haze over everything? im playing on ultra

[agile pendant]

incursion is designed by giga dumbass, u cant invite if quitters/losers leave. u cant auto kick low level noobs...

[frosty wadi]

You sound fun to play with 🗿

[hybrid ore]

This is all solved pretty easily by just playing with a pre-made squad.

[lone valve]

The no matchmaking mid run is stupid tbh

2 people leave now what
Ur fucked goodbye run

[hybrid ore]

I assume it was disabled mid-run to avoid kicking players and having your friends join, which is a real problem in a lot of "long mission games".

RIP 100 bags Cook Off.

[wintry wraith]

What's a low lvl noob lol

[lone valve]

Wish more people knew you could jam the turrets
Had a heated debate with someone insisting you couldn't and that I should switch to a tank shield build for aggro

[hybrid ore]

In all fairness, the Incursion is just over 24 hours old.
People not knowing things is kinda fair, I think we can all admit.

[wintry wraith]

Beat the incursion yet riven? Lol

[hybrid ore]

Haven't even logged on, got stuff to do.

[wintry wraith]

Aw, ever need help I got ur back :D

[graceful valve]

we are trying to kick someone who got off after fighting hte last boss in the new incursion mode but there is no kick option

will the game auto kick them after x amount of time or are we able to leave and still keep the last boss cp?

[kind veldt]

leader might be able to kick

but yeah i prefer the decoy approach ot turrets

[wintry wraith]

Leader can give u guys the option of vote to kick

[kind veldt]

i wonder if i should farm for the chestpiece

[wintry wraith]

If u leave and go bk in, ur basically restarting the mission

[kind veldt]

kinda wanna play around with granades

with luck it gives a breath of fresh air ongoing directive

now i'm afraid a dev just suddendly wack any gear set into being bad for no reason

[wintry wraith]

What do you think of this, ouroboros with striker and perfect wicked lol

Toss a incendiary grenade on u, boom, free fire ammo

[kind veldt]

didnt they make so you cant proc ouroboros on yourself?

to avoid people having sticky ammo on PVP?

[wintry wraith]

It says when an agent has a status effect applied to them

Doesn't specify enemies

[frosty wadi]

Honestly the ouroboros trait seems like an afterthought, like we all know why your bringing it

[kind veldt]

might have been a PTS talk

[frosty wadi]

Its elmos 2.0

[wintry wraith]

Would be dumb as hell if applying effects on ur self doesn't give u ammo

[agile pendant]

45 with a shit build

[azure lintel]

Welp, that's enough. Gonna need to spend about 1.3 million resources on maxing this Ceska chest, but I just can't anymore

[kind veldt]

well gonna give another incursion a try

who knows i might get something else that isnt supposed to drop

[azure lintel]

It's all fun and games until Incursion accidentally drops the Golden Gun from Goldeneye on the N64, and Sir Radzig's Sword

I've only ever heard of this game having unintended funky loot pools. So weird

[kind veldt]

well rare times i cna get raid exotics without the raid

might as well give it a shot

[azure lintel]

Not surprised. I'm pretty sure all the Yaahl stuff I have, none of it came from the DZ

[wintry wraith]

I do want the ouroboros my self, imma farm some bosses lol

[haughty fable]

from what i've heard ouroboros is "okay" at best in challenging but any higher and it's just a nah

[oak prawn]

that is true

[wintry wraith]

Azure said its bis atm tho

[haughty fable]

its not lol

[small spear]

i mean there's a burst dps number next to it in the sheet

[bright dust]

hey i kinda just hit lvl 40 last night with some shd rank i need some people who know the game i used to play on xbox but im fresh on pc please hmu

[haughty fable]

I would rather just use a high end .45 Vector with even a Killer talent in it just out of consistency

instead of using up my exotic slot on a slightly higher rof vector cus that's all it's gonna be in anything higher than challenging

[rare vapor]

to use ouroboros effectively, you need to self apply status effects and be on the...edge

[haughty fable]

too unsafe for me personally

[magic atlas]

honestly expecting people to know most of the things about day old content is ridiculous.

[haughty fable]

agreed

[rare vapor]

thats why you watch content creators

[haughty fable]

though people overreacting saying Incursion is impossible just seemingly don't understand the mechanics

[rare vapor]

incursion is impossible when you have unoptimized builds and cant communicate. it's true though.

otherwise, piece of cake

[haughty fable]

that's a player issue though

not a content issue like most people are trying to pose it up to be

[rare vapor]

its ALWAYS a player issue as far as this game is concerned

[haughty fable]

I've seen a handful of people already crying "wah bad game design" or "wah unfair"

[rare vapor]

they came from destiny 2, what u expect

[haughty fable]

lol

these people would hate Stolen Signal

[rare vapor]

at least most of the builds in Division 1 worked harmonously. Even a pisto tank build is super effective and engaging. Sniper builds easily 1-2 hit KOs with no sway or recoil. Not here.

not to mention, we have portable support stations for Incursion in Division 1. Not this healing hive crap.

[haughty fable]

true

[undone timber]

Classified reclaimer went crazy

[potent chasm]

Is that Hunter in the Incursion a cleaner?

[haughty fable]

.. it's a hunter

[potent chasm]

It's wearing cleaner gear though

[haughty fable]

They're their own faction under McManus

they're just kinda like mercs

[frosty wadi]

The mechanics aren’t hard, like at all, it’s just that this incursion isn’t forgiving for anyone that isn’t extremely coordinated

[wintry wraith]

Just gotta use 2% of ur brain for the first 2 bosses then another 5 for the last boss

[haughty fable]

i didn't think it was that hard just took a few tries to learn what to expect

which is par for the course on like first week of clearing

any time I wiped it was just "oh thats whats next" instead of "thats unfair"

change your build on the fly inbetween fights if you have to

[lone valve]

The problem isn't the builds

It's the lack of coordination and being in sync with each other

Wright is a big example

Sure you can find the odd group of randoms out there that know what they are doing
But half the time it's the dumbest players just rushing the turrets in the first part like maniacs

[haughty fable]

destiny players

[oak prawn]

Hey nkt all destiny players are bad I wasn't and I have over 1200 clears between all raids on D1 and D2

Though I do agree people don't or refuse to listen to instructions

Most of the time

[agile pendant]

people have directives for incursions....

[oak prawn]

Yea ads more of a challenge

[lone valve]

Because they don't know

Even then
Why do global directives just apply to incursions
If I want directives ill put them on in the mission settings(which you can't even cuz there are no mission settings for incursion)

[potent chasm]

What is the tactics for the turrets? I'm seeing the gap to shoot through, but don't see the target.

[lone valve]

It's there
Just shoot through the gap
You'll see the health bar

[potent chasm]

Gotcha, thanks

[lone valve]

Also you need to climb up on the truck on the right
And the platform on the left to actually be able to shoot it

So eitheir have someone take aggro with a shield tank
Or emp sticky the turrets and then start shooting the boxes

[potent chasm]

Gotcha

Ah, it's armored.

[lone valve]

Yes
Only purple bar tho

[potent chasm]

Alright, cool

[lone valve]

Just have whoever is dps shoot the boxes

[potent chasm]

I can get it now, just need to coordinate

[nimble fox]

1 healer, 3 dps. Emp sticky works on sniper turret. 2 drone phases and Johnson is down. Healer throws bag on the right and runs left with two guys, whoever has Martinez eye run to the other side

Roll out of mortars, drop hive to pick everybody up, hope this helps. It’s been working for me

[mighty matrix]

Incursions in The Division 1 were hard, until more and more people figured out what to do over time - this is how it should be: hard at first, but getting easier after a while. I really hope the devs are not going to nerf anything since it's fun to test your different builds

[midnight lotus]

So real ong

[haughty fable]

if they could punch things effectively like brainless neanderthals they would

[midnight lotus]

People rushing the turrets is the division equivalent of trying to speedrun abyss in crota

[kind veldt]

well the limbo of guy who constantly uses the wrong valve is also pretty bad

[frosty wadi]

They even have pictures 😭

[haughty fable]

the average thought process of a destiny player doesn't extend beyond "just shoot"

[midnight lotus]

Thunderlord dps=“st elmo is the best AR”

[haughty fable]

though in some fairness it's hard to blame them when powerful gadgets like the shield and reviver hive just reinforce a brainless playstyle

[lone valve]

Runs shield with glass cannon

[kind veldt]

and they being extremely useful for it

[haughty fable]

I mean hey I don't mind a bunch of meat decoys taking aggro for me

doesn't mean it's a smart playstyle though lol

[idle coral]

hey guys, i've just finished dc storyline and moved onto black tusk invasion. What do i do to progress now? Going around and do the main missions again?

[haughty fable]

You clear the BT invasion and then it should change the worldstate to seasonal

You can work on research for other specializations or start building up your recalibration library in the process

High End (orange) sets should be open to you by now

[idle coral]

Yeh got a bit of yellow gears, erm what do i do with the ones i dont use?😅

[haughty fable]

Pay attention to how high some of the cores are on the gear you pick up early on

It's good to save anything that has a high stat roll even if you wont use it

Take it to the workbenches in the back of the White House and you can store those recalibrations to put on useful gear

[idle coral]

oh right

[haughty fable]

I would focus on archiving the 3 core attributes to max

Weapons Damage + Skill Tier + Armor

then side attributes can come passively

[idle coral]

kk, i'll keep my eyes out for them. btw is the stored recalibrations once use only?

[haughty fable]

they're always there for anything you wanna recalibrate

you can only recalibrate a single slot on a piece of gear once though normally

[idle coral]

kk got it

[haughty fable]

so you don't wanna recalibrate something unless it has just 1 attribute that you wanna change

or a talent you wanna change if the attributes are perfect

[idle coral]

yeh make sense

[haughty fable]

for a starter build you could do something like

3 providence defense, 1 ceska, 1 grupo, 1 exotic

I would try to get obliterate on a chest piece if you can

that should be able to handle challenging difficulty for main missions which opens up your droprates for High Ends more commonly

and when the worldstate changes to season content you can start farming out Green sets

[idle coral]

season content is after the warlord of ny right?

btw.. should i skip to do warlords of ny, or is it better to do everything in order?

[haughty fable]

oh I misread earlier and thought I read you finished WONY

but yeah you should push to that since it unlocks the endgame half of the game

[idle coral]

ah kk. will i miss anything from the normal playthrough tho?

[haughty fable]

I would recommend clearing atleast the first Tusk invasion but yeah WONY is the next big step for progress

[boreal cedar]

I just boosted my character as a new player. y is lower manhattan so quiet. where are the hundreds of players roaming around the streets?

[wintry wraith]

lol

[haughty fable]

barely anyone goes to NY unless they're farming hunter masks

[idle coral]

kk tys!

[pliant sentinel]

forgot how annoying special ragers open world is

[haughty fable]

they're all huddled around the white house landing pad 24/7

[boreal cedar]

so i have to play through the NY campaign alone?

[potent chasm]

What's the deal with the truck part?

[haughty fable]

you'll still get matchmaking if you go on call or whatnot

I don't think it's split between having to be in NY or not

people just dont wander the NY map itself a lot

[boreal cedar]

ok

my dream was to basically play the game and anytime it asks me to matchmake, id hit the button and find people

[haughty fable]

nowadays activitiy sorta depends on difficulty

most people who are still playing in endgame usually just stick to challenging or heroic

[boreal cedar]

i see

[frozen meadow]

Wdym

[boreal cedar]

so ppl doin campaign for the first time are unlikely to find others?

[reef reef]

unless you specifically search for people here, yea unlikely to get matched with someone

[boreal cedar]

k thx

[potent chasm]

How does one get past it?

Me and my team are struggling

[frozen meadow]

You just kill the enemies?

If you can't do that then you need a new team

[pliant sentinel]

bruh!

fast travel crashes my game

[frozen meadow]

Skill issue

[pliant sentinel]

really is

at least im close to season pass lvl 50

[frozen meadow]

I haven't been able to play and idk if I'll have time tomorrow, another quiz Friday

• project due next monday

[pliant sentinel]

well u have 5 months to complete anything new

[frozen meadow]

I know

[pliant sentinel]

so u got nth to worry about

[oak prawn]

you got this

[real creek]

You got a rating for the incursion?

[pliant sentinel]

kept crashing when i open my map in castle

game telling me to stop farming

[frozen meadow]

7.5/10

Actually

8.5/10

[pliant sentinel]

yeah same

[cursive halo]

didnt know thi game has incursions lol

[frozen meadow]

It just added one

Yesterday

[oak prawn]

Let's hope they add more in thr future

[frozen meadow]

Doubt

[cursive halo]

i downloaded the game yesterday so i have a huge lack of information,still figuring out the game

[frozen meadow]

But it was nice

Not perfect but nice

[oak prawn]

Never know always that small chance eevee

[frozen meadow]

If they made johnson/Martinez immune after one died that would bump to 9.5/10

[oak prawn]

The game is very fun but the real fun starts after you beat WONY

[cursive halo]

yeah it is,i like it a lot honestly,but im still at the leveling phase,currently lvl 13

[oak prawn]

Don't bother putting together a build until you are in WT1 your just get better gear before then

[cursive halo]

i have to figure out builds,strats,and comprehend the totality of the content

[river whale]

I thought the game was still a ton of fun at level 30 since I didn't have the expansion for quite awhile, getting to level 40 was a treat and it's been cool expanding my builds and everything

[pliant sentinel]

immune like, to all damage or just status effect

[oak prawn]

Just play tbe game wait till you beat the main story to focus on builds

[cursive halo]

thats a good advice because im having headaches figuring out wich gear is better and why

[frozen meadow]

All

Also if they made the drone unjammable

[oak prawn]

Also don't skip ans go straight to WONY your miss out a very good story

[cursive halo]

nono sir im doing absoulutely everything,just enjoying the totality of the content

[oak prawn]

After WONY most of the activities open up manhunts, summit countdown, raids incursions,descent etc

[cursive halo]

so theres no point looking for a clan until 30 right?

[oak prawn]

Up ti you

I'd find a clan to join as soon as possible

[haughty fable]

yeah first time I wasn't expecting so much to actually open up just from getting the DLC

[oak prawn]

They can help you as well

[haughty fable]

it's like a whole 2nd games worth of playtime

[cursive halo]

okei okei,fair.

[oak prawn]

Find 1 that's active friendly and is helpful

[river whale]

Exactly! They locked a ton of fun endgame modes behind level 40, so much that it actually surprised the crap out of me lol

[haughty fable]

a clan helps big time anytime you put out a backup request the entire clan gets it

[oak prawn]

Ya can go to #td2-clan-recruitment

[haughty fable]

and it's usually an objective each reset to help eachother out an x amount of times

so theres incentive to do it

[dire moat]

Hey guys so I've completed the incursion and I wanna ask some advice from anyone else who has done it. The final boss in particular. What are y'all doing with the sniper turrets? I've resorted to just trying to beam them and it worked in my attempt but even with a 25mil DPS build I can't get a long enough beam even with 2 ppl before we get dropped.

Question is there any other option for destroying the turrets? Any skills etc y'all recommend? Because replaying it on random matching I'm able to get to that boss but the sniper turret phase is just driving me up a wall 😂

[haughty fable]

EMP

nades, pulse, launcher

either works

[dire moat]

Does it just disable it for a few seconds? Or can it destroy it?

[haughty fable]

EMPs will deal a chunk of damage and keep it disabled for a while

i think most people do launcher for the damage output

[dire moat]

Because we tried emp pulse once (can't remember the exact name) but it barely did anything

[haughty fable]

pulse would have the highest duration i think

there's tradeoffs between them

but even just stunning them for a few seconds can help a lot

[craggy ravine]

Anyone have a final boss CP and wanna try it? I got up to the final boss with my buddies super easily but couldn’t beat the final boss

[dire moat]

Hm alright, alright. Because tbh I've gotten really good at every part of that fight except for dealing with those turrets. They literally fire before the laser looks at you

[agile pendant]

its possible to sink cover ducking with its shooting animation

so you can make it miss 100% if timed correctly while killing the sniper turret

[haughty fable]

there's that too

[dire moat]

Aw man...I don't wanna sound like an idiot but I've only been on this game for like a month and I have no idea what that is😂

[agile pendant]

but mortars shell can make it annoying

[haughty fable]

just quickly bait out the shot and then take advantage of the reload time

they need a few seconds to load another shot

[dire moat]

Yea it's the combo of running from mortars while getting whacked

[pliant sentinel]

impossible to revive teammates without a hive

[agile pendant]

the turret requires few seconds to acquire the target, so you go into cover after 1sec causing the turret to miss

[haughty fable]

just dont die

[bold epoch]

It’s annoying the rushers and turrets

[azure lintel]

Best advice ever.

[agile pendant]

i had some rando dummies trying to use DH warhound boss strategy on the final boss....

[haughty fable]

oh lord

[agile pendant]

just whittle them down guys 🤡

[dire moat]

I gathered that. But definitely easier said than does when Martinez is hitting you from 30m out and the mortars are flowing

[opal radish]

incursion bosses are immune to nego

[dire moat]

Imma try the pluse tho. Because I've just been running decoy and revive hive. So if that even gives me 3secs to sustain fire that will make my life alot easier

[agile pendant]

they are also immune to stupid 🤣

[opal radish]

lmao

[pliant sentinel]

are they actually immune to negotiator stacks

[opal radish]

during their immunity phase yes

totally immune to cc

nearly 100% of the time

[final onyx]

[haughty fable]

With the banshee duration mod you should atleast get a few seconds yeah

if you've maxed that spec

I don't think you need the spec equipped to use the mods though I could be wrong

[agile pendant]

well i got unlucky from the crate drop

no new smg

[pliant sentinel]

enemies shd tech makes em immortal while my beyblade flame turret lasts 5 seconds before it needs a 6 hour charge

[kind veldt]

third clear with randoms

[onyx furnace]

is the st elmos ar just a random drop now?

[frosty wadi]

Yes

[rare vapor]

no worries, the Oro looks cool but sux anyways

[vernal dock]

Was the change to vigilance intentional?? Or bug? when I have my shield out vigilance disables when the shield takes damage

[azure lintel]

Bonjour nous sommes 2 d’un clan quasi désert et recherchons une aide/conseils pour l’incursion.Qu’en pensez-vous?

[real creek]

I found it super easy. Did a 24 minute run on my second try. It's just super short and I'd say it's less difficult than tidal basin imo.

[opal radish]

if you have coordination that is

[real creek]

I mean pull coordination/good builds/little strategies out of anything in this game and it becomes infinitely harder.

[lone valve]

Tbh the incursion is fun
Unlike legendary tidal

[opal radish]

yeah

cause it has checkpoint unlike tidal legendary

[real creek]

Yeah for something with checkpoints it's just a little easy. I get why they are there but still.

[opal radish]

also the dmg except for th boss the npc deals is fair

[lone valve]

It's already infinitely better than the raids for the sole fact it has matchmaking and not some dumb easier difficulty where you can't even get the exotics out of

[opal radish]

yeah also dz exclusive in it as well

[lone valve]

That reminds me of smth I saw someone run earlier in the incursion

Quite literally 6 piece striker

[wintry wraith]

The lovebirds are super easy lol

[onyx furnace]

the only thing that makes lovebirds slightly hard is the sniper turret

but enough dps you can just 1 phase and its easy af

[lone valve]

Wish people knew to turn off directives before starting a incursion
Already made a PSA on reddit about it

[real creek]

That 8:38 speed run of it already.

[wintry wraith]

Wait so I can do the incursion on heroic? Lol

[real creek]

It'll give you more XP!

[onyx furnace]

last night it bugged and we had directives ads with special rounds was annoying af

[lone valve]

It's not a bug lol
Ur global directives apply to the incursion

[onyx furnace]

i thought it was like raids just base difficulty doesnt change wasnt lead anyways

[real creek]

You can turn them off when you start.

[lone valve]

Half the time I'm not even the group leader

I tried telling one group to turn them off and nobody said anything
Life of matchmaking

[river whale]

I just queued into a countdown and it said I had a bad connection to the server. Checking the server selection it said I was connected to Australia... As a US player that isn't something that's happened to me before lmao

[real creek]

Playing down under eh? Did your screen turn upside down?