td2-general-chat

[elfin hazel]

he actually had a revive hive under the dock

[rough sleet]

he's mad and wants his watch back

[serene rivet]

Did the New season started yet?

[rough sleet]

tomorrow

[serene rivet]

And the Update?

[rough sleet]

the stream is today in about 45 minutes, update/season tomorrow

[serene rivet]

Ok is puplic when?

[rough sleet]

the season will be live to public tomorrow, for everyone

[serene rivet]

Yeah but is the update at like 10am or 3pm?

[rough sleet]

oh actual time, usually early morning for me (like 3-6am EST or so my time)

maybe a little later than that

[elfin hazel]

assuming standard maintenance hours sometime between <t:1686209400:f> & <t:1686220200:f>

[serene rivet]

Ok thx

How did u do that it is shown in my time?

[elfin hazel]

unix timestamp but I use hammertime (website) to make it easier

[outer garnet]

is there something going on with game today just had a wierd one were i couldnt spawn the one previuos i couldnt use my skills they were greyed out ill prbably try div later might aswell go play some scum

[hard ridge]

when's the roguelite releasing ?

[elfin hazel]

tommorow

[hard ridge]

oh damn ! really ? that soon ?

[elfin hazel]

final time here again assuming standard downtime hours

[fair lake]

20 mins till stream, right?

[tender notch]

yup

[fair lake]

👌

[tender notch]

stream news in #news-and-announcements FYI

[analog oracle]

hi from where i get ironworks base materials

[hearty briar]

Iron Horse raid on Normal difficulty.

[slow kraken]

I'm going insane why do people leave countdown runs as soon as they load in

[full zinc]

Impatience

It's annoying af

[frank parcel]

yo whens the stream?

[elfin hazel]

<t:1686147300:R>

[frank parcel]

thanks

[elfin hazel]

link in #news-and-announcements

[slow kraken]

yeah idk even if I type and say it'll fix itself they just leave

gets annoying after 40 minutes of trying to get in a lobby of more then 4 people

[worn turret]

more like in 34

[pseudo fiber]

Is The Division stream today?

[elfin hazel]

yes

[pseudo fiber]

Thanks

[elfin hazel]

link in #news-and-announcements its in 2 minutes

[pseudo fiber]

🙏

[empty crag]

im watching Tux live for it

[pseudo fiber]

Tux as tixbird? Lol

[empty crag]

TuxedoBandido

[rough sleet]

you're watching a stream of a streamer streaming a stream? 🤔

[empty crag]

yes🤓

[barren tiger]

so,it's just gonna start out of nowhere? no lead up?

[empty crag]

yeah think thats how they do it

[rough sleet]

yeah, thot it was weird, usually there's a timer countdown....

[elfin hazel]

theres probably gonna be a countdown timer once they go live

[pseudo fiber]

Yeah lol, they lack promotion skills I guess 🤣

[rough sleet]

nb4 they got time wrong.....OOF

[barren tiger]

8:15 AM

[elfin hazel]

15 minute timer

[lone valve]

They usually do a 5 or 10 min timer

[rough sleet]

\o/

[tender notch]

STREAM IS NOW LIVE!

[lone valve]

Oh

[barren tiger]

lol the got the time wrong

eh,that's okay

[pseudo fiber]

I mean if it wasn’t for a different a discord I am in I would have forgot where the Stream soon reminder

[elfin hazel]

time is right timer is normal

[long thorn]

15min

[lone valve]

Yea every special report they do has a timer
They always start at half past

[long thorn]

time to uhhh... keep re-reading my favourite novel series

[empty crag]

it's on

[pseudo fiber]

Lol

[barren tiger]

so,i misunderstood,

[lime fulcrum]

music is dope 💀

[empty crag]

13 minute timer

[barren tiger]

okay,that's normal lol

[lone valve]

That's a cool ass background

[empty crag]

prolly has to do with the story

[elfin hazel]

sure hope my package doesn't arrive during it

[empty crag]

since Maria? is that her name?

since she got taken by the Tusks

[pseudo fiber]

I wanted to listen to the stream in the gym lmao, but lost my airpods rip hopefully it won’t be too long

[barren tiger]

great now i'm trying to figure out what map that background is from 😂

[empty crag]

it's from Aquarium

[elfin hazel]

manning zoo

[lone valve]

Music getting me excited

[elfin hazel]

its right before the amplifier area

[empty crag]

yeah

[long thorn]

so much stuff happening today, wow

[empty crag]

:)

[long thorn]

this announcement + the modded MC malware stuff + Destiny 2 weekly reset lol

[barren tiger]

so, thanks to NGN's videos I actually got interested in doing the manhunts/season and the events

[long thorn]

NGN the goat

[full zinc]

I've tried convincing ppl that it will be fixed in a minute. Probably better if you know a few ppl that will all join the same game. Randos are way too flakey 🤣

[pseudo fiber]

“English please” is all I see in the chat so far lol

[empty crag]

NGN really is

[barren tiger]

tomorrow game fest starts

[pseudo fiber]

And I was like, yeah sounds familiar
(Every public chat in game fills with china man)

[empty crag]

why does everyone not trust Kelso?

[pseudo fiber]

I swear if Kelso turns on us I will be so pissed lol, especially after Lewis called us “Her Boy” in one of the manhunt boss missions

Forgot which one

[empty crag]

yeah I don't see how Kelso would go rogue

unless they're gonna have an Anti-Division arc

where we actually go against the Division

[rough sleet]

Manny goes rogue and kidnaps us and drops us off at Kenly against our will....

[elfin hazel]

I don't see them making kelso go rogue without a bunch of buildup because it'd feel cheap

[empty crag]

only way I see Kelso going rogue is if we also go rogue

[pseudo fiber]

Yoooo if Manny goes rouge that would be an insane plot twist

[empty crag]

is Manny an actual agent?

[rough sleet]

lol, Manny is tired of our neglect

[barren tiger]

i've noticed that on TD1 when i play on pc

[elfin hazel]

hes not hes just the head of the JTF IIRC

[empty crag]

then he wouldnt go rogue in the Division sense

[rough sleet]

yeah, he was just put in charge of feeding us info or w/e

[elfin hazel]

realistically we'd never go rogue because its a tom clancy game 🚎

[empty crag]

lol this

[pseudo fiber]

Yeah exactly

[barren tiger]

i could never work up the nerve to ask on reddit what language it was 😂

[empty crag]

wonder what will happen with Keener

[elfin hazel]

still dead legacy still going(?)

[empty crag]

since we kinda not done much with Keener plot since Legacy

[pseudo fiber]

If keener comes back I am shitting on him

[empty crag]

yeah I mean his legacy

[pseudo fiber]

Literally

[barren tiger]

eww

[pseudo fiber]

He deserves it

[empty crag]

Personally i dont think he should come back

[pseudo fiber]

He shouldn’t

[empty crag]

it should be like Echos tbh

[pseudo fiber]

Keener comes back as a ghost and we hunting ghosts now

[empty crag]

I imagine he be like talking to you via Echos explaining more

[opal radish]

😂 😂

[pseudo fiber]

Ghosts from Ghost Recon join The Division but they are rouge and keener leads them

[empty crag]

lol

[pseudo fiber]

That would be crazy

[opal radish]

yeah nomad went rogue 😂 😂

[empty crag]

it be awesome if they did that

[pseudo fiber]

Hahaha

[empty crag]

Keener just explaining shit to you that he left for you to find cause he knew he was prolly gonna die

[empty crag]

speaking of Ghost Recon, honestly I don't mind the drones and advanced tech

that Raid boss drone was somethin

[pseudo fiber]

A Ghost Division of all the rouges we killed and some crazy stuff about returning the dead to life and we have to hunt them again but now they crazy difficult
I might be going too far with this but i like the sound of it while I type it 🤣

[opal radish]

this may be possible but who knows maybe this will be the part of new dlc

[novel laurel]

Link to the stream?

[empty crag]

which im fine with

[elfin hazel]

link is in #news-and-announcements

[rough sleet]

"Agent, I know I've been your enemy til now, but I hope this info will show that I've only been doing what is right....what needs to be done....and hopefully you'll understand more...."

[empty crag]

Ghost Recon needs to take a book from the Division and have more interesting minibosses and bosses from a faction

[opal radish]

yeah and the silencer in division is useless if I put it on I want no one to know I fired this game doesn't care😂 😂

[rough sleet]

stahp it keener, no "join me in this path" shit....don't do it, lol

[pseudo fiber]

Shut yo ass clown, me to every dumbass rouge that lied to himself that he is the hero

[empty crag]

Remember seeing concept art for Walker's lieutenants and they were unique bosses

[pseudo fiber]

Yeah

[rough sleet]

"Sheriff, I am your father" 🤔 😂

[pseudo fiber]

🤣🤣

[ripe yacht]

i hope stream doesn't crash

[empty crag]

sucks the game didnt have enough time in the oven

IT'S START

[full zinc]

Live active

[pseudo fiber]

Sheriff Kelso is your step mom lol

[leaden dagger]

Lmao that’s funny

[pseudo fiber]

I always loved Ghost Recon

[opal radish]

if they are playing the game than it will😂 😂

[empty crag]

I love Future Soldier

[pliant sentinel]

when does year 5 release

[pseudo fiber]

Sameee

[empty crag]

I kinda like advanced tech Ghost Recon

[pseudo fiber]

Especially hardcore

[empty crag]

alot of GR fans don't want the drones but like I said im fine with it

they just need to balance it more unique human bosses

[opal radish]

future soldier was amazing imo actually had a decent story

[elfin hazel]

tommorow

[empty crag]

it did loved it

my first ever Ubi game was Splinter Cell Blacklist

[pseudo fiber]

Ngl didn’t want it as well but its not TOO bad

[opal radish]

I am Missing prince of Persia and splinter cell tbh

[cinder oasis]

Whats the orange currency thats like an orange circle with a symbol in the middle

[pseudo fiber]

Someone write notes I wanna know what we gonna have, I can’t watch it in the gym

[empty crag]

I think it's too frequent in Breakpoint

if they will be drones they need to be special

[pseudo fiber]

I am ending up just sitting and watching the stream in the gym lol

[empty crag]

YOOO NGN ON STREAM

[cinder oasis]

^^^^^^

[slow kraken]

countdown currency? idk

[empty crag]

NGN giving a briefing

[cinder oasis]

When u press options amd go in inventory...m the corrency in tje bottom left. Says i have 25k what do i do with it

[empty crag]

here we go guys

[slow kraken]

under your skill tier? that's credits, buy things from vendors and used for crafting

[pseudo fiber]

Damn it I will have to watch it after the gym, have fun guys

[opal radish]

give us a screenshot

[cinder oasis]

Ah ty, how many can i hold? Is 25k the max? I find it odd i have exactly 25k

[opal radish]

the limit is quite high 9.9 billion I think

[slow kraken]

I think it's infinite... maybe not actually infinite but I doubt any one will ever reach a cap

[cinder oasis]

Oh lol

[pseudo fiber]

Did anyone even reach 9 bil?

[empty crag]

heal the broken wing

[opal radish]

let me see

[cinder oasis]

Ty ill jist keep saving up, see all the weapons n armor i get do i just dismantle or sell to vendor?

[pseudo fiber]

Shit now I wanna go grind just to achieve it

[slow kraken]

personally I just dismantle, bountys give like 5k+ credits per so they're never a problem

or you can put them into recalibration library

or donate for proficency

[cinder oasis]

Whats proficiency n recalibration library

[oblique peak]

So when does Coney Island show up on the map? Because I didn't notice it till I finished the expansion main missions

[opal radish]

yeah

[empty crag]

i posted the Y5S1 calendar in #ask-td2-community

[opal radish]

also 1 SHD gives like 1000/10000 per point

[oblique peak]

@cinder oasis The lib let's you store high stat rolls/talents for later use and proficiency is just weapon/gear xp

[cinder oasis]

Is there a point in keeping blue or purples?

[hexed sentinel]

No

You’ll get better ones if you raise the difficulty

[cinder oasis]

How do i raise the difficulty

[hexed sentinel]

Or if you reach higher levels

[barren tiger]

lol they keep saying season 1

[empty crag]

lol ye they do lol

[elfin hazel]

thats correct

[long thorn]

didnt they also call ngn aussie lol

[slow kraken]

relcalibration let's you put attributes that were once on another weapon or armor peice, onto another. sacrifice the original and then you have that artobute at that % for ever. works for talents too, not for exotics

proficency is a super late game min max thing where you use / donate equipment of a certain name or set (or use resources) to get up to +23% dmg / armor on weapons and gear respectively

I think I explained that okay

[elfin hazel]

seasons are being renamed to Y5S1 and so on

[empty crag]

it's so over for NGN

[hexed sentinel]

Rainbow Six moment

[long thorn]

was about to say this

[long thorn]

He's so fkd

[hexed sentinel]

What did NGN do

I dont understand

[empty crag]

he got called an aussie

[long thorn]

got called australian.

[cinder oasis]

Ty ❤️ so anything with high % i should keep

[opal radish]

I am waiting for the stream to crash 😂 😂

[long thorn]

HAHA

ngn stream takeover when

[hexed sentinel]

Bruh i thought you all knew about this

[elfin hazel]

it did :(

[slow kraken]

can do. I didn't bother

[empty crag]

so Y5S1 is a Rescue Operation

[opal radish]

yeah any maxed out roll

[empty crag]

makes sense with the name Broken Wing

heal the Broken Wing

[opal radish]

full your library except for few pcs

[hexed sentinel]

Fix the broken wing with duct tape

[long thorn]

i thought the name was going to be some shit about the division breaking up

[hexed sentinel]

Improvise adapt and overcome

[opal radish]

For Weapons DTTOC/DTA/Health DMG are priority for 3rd attributes

[long thorn]

also the new exotic looks really fantasy esque...

[barren tiger]

finally more gear dyes

[long thorn]

reminding me of outriders lighting class ngl

[slow kraken]

no way new arm patches!!!!

[hexed sentinel]

It looks really cool honestly

[long thorn]

it does

[cinder oasis]

Dttoc?

[opal radish]

lol wahts the point if the skin is bugged 😂 😂

[slow kraken]

dmg to targets out of cover

[long thorn]

im a fan (help, i play too much destiny)

[cinder oasis]

Ah

[hard apex]

Why they seem so awkward?

[long thorn]

uh

sweedish

[hexed sentinel]

Wait the stream started?

[slow kraken]

Well they're talking to almost 6k people lmao

yes it's going rn

[long thorn]

the new ar looks like a destiny gun lol

i am so grinding for it

[hexed sentinel]

Did i miss anything first 29 mins

[opal radish]

well it's mods are OP and the look that's it

[slow kraken]

the elmo one lmao

[long thorn]

first 15m was wait timer

[slow kraken]

oooo gilded cage weapon skin that's clean asf

[long thorn]

and then roadmap, ngn recap and the exotic overviews

[hexed sentinel]

Aha okay

[elfin hazel]

I wish moose head was global

[hard apex]

Will the update go live after the stream?

[hexed sentinel]

Thanks

[elfin hazel]

update goes up tommorow

[hexed sentinel]

Tomorrow

[opal radish]

tomorrow

[barren tiger]

nice, they are bringing back the splinter cell outfit from td1

[slow kraken]

drip event hell yeah

[opal radish]

how many premium credits?

[hexed sentinel]

Lets go inspired by shd tech and black tusk apparels nice

[oblique peak]

@hard apex No update is tomorrow

[hearty briar]

Oooh I like the boonie and eyeglass

[barren tiger]

it's part of the rewards track lol

[long thorn]

we get the google glasses

[opal radish]

nice

[barren tiger]

i think

[long thorn]

and the qi meter

[opal radish]

what's this

[oblique peak]

When is the stream again?

[opal radish]

rn

[elfin hazel]

right now

[long thorn]

dragon ball stuff

[opal radish]

u mean the one Vegeta used in the meme 😂 😂

[long thorn]

well yeah

[hexed sentinel]

Doesnt look too bad i guess

[stiff bear]

time ?

[long thorn]

the scouter

[barren tiger]

i kind of miss having five different color versions of the same puffer jacket 😂

[opal radish]

😂 😂

[elfin hazel]

starts at <t:1686209400:f> ends around <t:1686220200:f>

[tawny linden]

they talked more about the apparel then anything else for the gear portion.... wth?

[barren tiger]

see patch notes? lol

[stiff bear]

[full zinc]

Apparel is the money maker🤣

[long thorn]

welcome to the 2020s, the years based around cosmetic microtransactions

[elfin hazel]

people like cosmetics in this game ¯_(ツ)_/¯

[hexed sentinel]

Dude i love spending money

[opal radish]

the milk factor of every game 😂 😂

[elfin hazel]

(I'm people)

[tawny linden]

not yet, were they released?

[empty crag]

you think they'll make some sort of Splinter Cell crossover?

or is the most they'll do is apparrel

[hexed sentinel]

Different universe

[elfin hazel]

not yet they'll probably be up around downtime

[opal radish]

if they release them no one would bother with stream😂 😂

[tawny linden]

they said afterwards they would relasae them

[empty crag]

but the same thing can exist

[tawny linden]

Give me a Destiny reveal any time over this BS.

[long thorn]

"Multiple Stability Improvements"

hmmm, smells like lies

[hexed sentinel]

Splinter Cell and Rainbow Six both exist in the same universe

But Division is separated

[long thorn]

and rainbow six can't exist in the same timeline as div lol

[opal radish]

so 4 crashes. instead of usual 5 per day or 6 crashes 😂 😂

[empty crag]

lol

[hexed sentinel]

Yep

[long thorn]

more like 10 instead of 11

the stream chat is uh

[opal radish]

it depends but I can guarantee not a single person goes without crashing once a day😂 😂

[long thorn]

volitile

[long thorn]

tbf i didnt crash last time i was on

[hexed sentinel]

Gotta love the friendly community of The Division

Most respectful community

[barren tiger]

😂

[opal radish]

I crashed too much today killed my mood to play the game

[fair lake]

so, according to the stream, Cavalier is already trash, right? Skill dmg protection instead of ALL damage protection

[long thorn]

Descent = previous season named blueprint drop = "Reconstructed Cache"

[opal radish]

nice I am short on quite of them

[hard apex]

Will we get loot for the main game in descent? or just xp?

[barren tiger]

that's just what i was thinking
"How do we get people to keep playing this mode?"
"What about pervious season blue prints?"

[long thorn]

i assume through the crates

[opal radish]

but if u play enough u r gonna reach the cap

[hard apex]

ok they are answering it now

[opal radish]

duplicate blueprint doesn't make sense

[fair lake]

there are 6 missing blueprints right now

[pseudo fiber]

What’s the word so far? I got one more set in the gym then I can hop on the stream

[barren tiger]

and if you've played all of the pervious seasons and got the blue prints=😥

[long thorn]

Descent information ss'd in #ask-td2-community

[pseudo fiber]

Ah thanks

[still grail]

blah blah blah descent, apparel and they botched the cavalier set

[hearty briar]

Botched?

[fair lake]

you don't have ALL blueprints. I played through everything and I get not all of them

[still grail]

yes

[pliant sentinel]

its protection from skill dmg instead of overall dmg

[hearty briar]

Huh, I thought they changed it from skill to overall in the second iteration of pts

[barren tiger]

didn't they just state that?

[still grail]

they reverted it

[hearty briar]

Did they change it back?

[empty crag]

big L

[hearty briar]

F

[empty crag]

did they say why?

[barren tiger]

yes

[hearty briar]

Guess it's just expertise fodder then

[fair lake]

can you use it somewhere in PVE? Oh, right....

[barren tiger]

not that i can tell

[opal radish]

well total damage has been too op in PvP but for pve it will come quite handy in legendary

[still grail]

Some bullshit about they want it to fulfill a certain fantasy idk man

[gloomy wyvern]

Probably because reducing incoming damage by 50% would be really hard to balance around

[pseudo fiber]

I love apparel do we get AOR1 or Multicam yet? 🤣🤣

[empty crag]

yeah fantasy cause no one in reality will be using it lol

[opal radish]

I want more Div1 gearset back without being botched

[empty crag]

why not lower from 50%

[still grail]

it was 40%

[empty crag]

\o/

[gloomy wyvern]

it was 50 with the chest

[opal radish]

25% would've been fine

[empty crag]

ye

[pseudo fiber]

So no? Sadge

[still grail]

yeah but nobody would use it over pointman if you were playing a tank support build

[empty crag]

25%+5% with chest

[opal radish]

just nerf it in PvP and leave it at in pve

[gloomy wyvern]

fair

[ancient jetty]

People are such losers in countdown. Its so fun matchmaking for 10 minutes because people are being weirdos and kicking people for no reason 🥱

[long thorn]

i need to get into pvp

but it looks uh

[gloomy wyvern]

You must be new hear

[pseudo fiber]

Hate those kind of people

[opal radish]

well I rarely play pvp

[empty crag]

there needs to be more gearsets that can compete in PvP though

[still grail]

cavalier set was the only thing worth checking out to be honest for me

[long thorn]

much like a large scale gross sweatfest

[pseudo fiber]

I haven’t done countdown yet, where is it? Summit?

[barren tiger]

a power plant

[long thorn]

pentco? i think?

[opal radish]

I rarely play pvp so I don't know about thatuch

[ancient jetty]

No its on the map next to summit. Its a very good place for loot.

[still grail]

now that they fucked it up im not in the mood to play sick of trying some goofy exotics every update and doing the same grind for 6 weeks

[opal radish]

yeah

[pseudo fiber]

Thank you kind sir

[elfin hazel]

nobodys making you play

[empty crag]

St Elmo is actually a really good exotic

[barren tiger]

can i haz urz lootz?

[full zinc]

Did he say 100s of 1000s of players 🤣

[gloomy wyvern]

I don't mess with it much either but they rarely adjust gear between pvp and pve

[full zinc]

Doubtful

[undone timber]

Yeah can't wait to get st Elmo's

[long thorn]

try playing destiny 2 f2p 💀

[empty crag]

lol

[opal radish]

I think they adjusted quite few things like chainkiller tip of the spear

[undone timber]

Might actually make people stop abusing the Scorpio and start using that instead lmao

[empty crag]

oooooooooooh Raid directives

[opal radish]

Scorpio is OP wanna make content a breeze put a scorpio

[still grail]

my godroll loot since 2020 you can have it sure

[ancient jetty]

Good luck trying to get in a team, if you are not level 20 billion you just get kicked.

[empty crag]

I never been kicked

[ancient jetty]

LFG here might be better than matchmake

[empty crag]

and im only level 250

[barren tiger]

only been kicked twice

[opal radish]

yeah that happens anyone below 100 shd gets kicked out

[undone timber]

Elmo's comes with a mag of shock rounds tho might be pretty nice

[empty crag]

just have a good looking build

[gloomy wyvern]

Let clearify what I mean. They rarely adjust gear between pvp and pve anymore

[opal radish]

ok I get your point

[empty crag]

and 20% ChC, ChD, Weapon Handling and 70 round mag

[barren tiger]

not ime, I've seen folks iwth shd 17 lol

[ancient jetty]

I have heartbreaker on but yea. People see im lvl 20 and just kick

[fresh scaffold]

Morning Agents glad to be here

[long thorn]

just threw a ss of the QOL changes in the ASK channel

will keep putting in SS of textwalls

[undone timber]

The mods themselves are a talent lmao

[gloomy wyvern]

I think Chainkiller was the last item they tweaked if memory serves

[undone timber]

Have they mentioned a nerf from the PTS

[empty crag]

literally lmao

[empty crag]

hope not for awhile

[slow smelt]

I missed the livestream can I get a TLDR

[fair lake]

20% XP increase? LMAO

[opal radish]

yeah free chd and handling

[empty crag]

we need some overpowered shit for a bit

[barren tiger]

it's still going on lol

[empty crag]

free everything

[pseudo fiber]

Is it that difficult or people are just dicks

[empty crag]

it's like an Eagle Bearer with crit

[pseudo fiber]

The countdown I mean

[long thorn]

probably a good idea to check #ask-td2-community

[lime fulcrum]

did i hear that correct?! buff xp?!

[ancient jetty]

People just being dicks

[empty crag]

it's literally a better Eagle Bearer

[undone timber]

Eagle bearer on cocaine

[barren tiger]

think so

[pseudo fiber]

Good lol

[pseudo fiber]

COCAINEEEEE

[opal radish]

just prejudice people think low shd don't have proper builds or don't know how to play

[undone timber]

It's better in every way lmao

[empty crag]

COCAINA

[full zinc]

Elmo isnt gonna be anything. Imo no damage talent, mediocre shock rounds. Cham will still be used over it . Jmho tho

[undone timber]

The mods are ridiculously good

[undone timber]

Chameleon is so mid though 😭

[empty crag]

the mods though

[opal radish]

yeah the talent is meh 100 bullets and than talent process

[plush whale]

ig only for convoys

[still grail]

absolutely not, doesn't mean I can't post my feedback

[barren tiger]

12% for all activties

[empty crag]

St Elmo basically does the Chameleons job

[lime fulcrum]

tnx all ❤️

[empty crag]

instead of working for the ChC and ChD it just gives it to you out right

[pliant sentinel]

12% more xp across all activites

[elfin hazel]

just saying not playing over 1 gear set seems pretty extreme to me

[opal radish]

slightly better by not having to shoot for buff it's just from the base

[undone timber]

I thought they were nerfing it

[full zinc]

🤣

[ancient jetty]

Im using a heartbreaker with coyote and 1.4 mil armor with maxed stats for the most part on my armor. I guess that is just bad

[slow kraken]

o7 convoys

[barren tiger]

nerfing what?

[still grail]

only thing that actually changed the gameplay that would be fun to see everything else is more or less the same

[fallow idol]

Year 5 start yet?

[elfin hazel]

tommorow

[barren tiger]

tommorow

[pseudo fiber]

Facts, people be dumb

[empty crag]

mission difficulty being changed regardless of World Difficulty

[undone timber]

Convoys

[fallow idol]

Allegedly

[empty crag]

good change

[elfin hazel]

yeah yeah we get it massive bad delay happen 24/7 365 days

[barren tiger]

oh,i guess they decided to jsut buff everything else

[coral musk]

I feel like people don't play other video games other than this one in this community. Cause it's never "I'll play something else," it's always "Why do I have to do this again?" 🤣

[empty crag]

lol

[barren tiger]

waiting for starfield

[long thorn]

much like destiny lol

[pseudo fiber]

Speed runners bout to sniff cocaine and get that shit

[full zinc]

True story ngl

[opal radish]

very nice will be able to get daily xp from mission without fuckin my map

[coral musk]

the horrors of having a second video game to play, oh no 😆

[undone timber]

People will probably still farm convoys lol

[pseudo fiber]

I have to watch the stream god samn ir

[elfin hazel]

SPEC REVAMP NEWS

[empty crag]

I like the idea of Directives for Raids

[full zinc]

Not coming

[pseudo fiber]

What convoys?

[empty crag]

also spec revamp

[barren tiger]

rip off the bandaid 🤣

[empty crag]

they're talking about it

[fair lake]

hurts, but true

[still grail]

lmao

[undone timber]

This season spec revamp?

[fallow idol]

Did I miss the live stream? I got onto twitch but I don’t see anything posted

[undone timber]

Or just news

[barren tiger]

doesn't look like it

[opal radish]

damm well I am over the xp grind

[full zinc]

I'm glad. Shouldnt be able to stack everything good from each spec

[barren tiger]

it's happening now https://www.twitch.tv/thedivisiongame

[pseudo fiber]

Also what are the new apparel? Can we get G3 Multicam already

[elfin hazel]

its been set aside & didnt fit with future plans

[undone timber]

What'd they say

[opal radish]

map activity in which faction transports resources from one cp to another

[plush whale]

nah somebody typed in twitch chat that "this chat is more toxic than when the castle was firstly attacked by cpt wilson"

[lime fulcrum]

welp then 😂

[hearty briar]

Wait they're doing the spec revamp? Stepped away for a moment to get a drink

[fallow idol]

Damn it’s an hour in already… guess I’ll wait for the replay

[opal radish]

😂 😂

[fair lake]

This is such a clown show - not being able to use grenades \ skills etc. because it's locked with spec. 💀

[barren tiger]

seems like they have pushed back on spec changes to near end of the year (2023 yr)

[pseudo fiber]

Oh those ones, why, they good drops from it? Or good chance?

[pseudo fiber]

Same

[elfin hazel]

they're not doing it because of future plans but they're replacing it with something else to be announced

[barren tiger]

good xp

[pseudo fiber]

Gotcha

[empty crag]

chat more toxic than when Keener was attacking City Hall

[opal radish]

they give you 2X xp in the description

[still grail]

either that or just a polite way of saying abandoned

[barren tiger]

yeah

[plush whale]

or when he wanted to use nuke on new york

[gloomy wyvern]

If they just open up the skills and weapon mods it would be enough

[undone timber]

Ah

[opal radish]

nothing is abandoned just delayed to end of the lifecycle of the game

[barren tiger]

"go away cheaters"

[coral musk]

I think spec stuff is in a similar situation to picaro holster where they had an idea they wanted to do, then realized how big of a thing that was

[long thorn]

"we are working on some really advanced stuff..."

[elfin hazel]

you're never going to hear about what they're actually doing for a reason

[opal radish]

if picaro holsters core was refillable to WD it would be too op of a piece 30%WD with 6%CHC

[barren tiger]

"bad cheater exploiter bad!" bonks

[long thorn]

its ubisoft.

[opal radish]

advanced crash mechanism

[pseudo fiber]

Plot twist, New York is being nuked and we hunt a new literal terrorist like Keener and the Riker ISIS suicide bombers

[coral musk]

that's what it was supposed to be but they realized it would ransack the entire gear system if they tried it

[plush whale]

lool

[opal radish]

yeah

[elfin hazel]

it doesnt matter if its ubisoft or whoever

[coral musk]

it is mildly depressing the sheer number of people in twitch chat who are there just to rage 🤣

[barren tiger]

wonder how long twitch chat will take to realize that it isn't live

[long thorn]

"Accidential Cheater"

[long thorn]

true

[elfin hazel]

you're never going to hear what anti cheat stuff is actually happening for hopefully obvious reasons

[barren tiger]

bonk go to cheater jail

[elfin hazel]

I love my internet its dying like never before

[long thorn]

yuuup

[empty crag]

how does someone do that lmao

[gloomy wyvern]

"my little brother put the hax on my computer"

[long thorn]

RIP

[elfin hazel]

losing big chunks of the stream I love \

[long thorn]

probably finding an exploit

[long thorn]

uhhhh

"I WAS EATING KFC AND MY FINGEER SLIPPED"

[hearty briar]

"What they're doing is wrong"

kekw baby gloves

[empty crag]

"what you're doing is wrong exploiters stop it"

[opal radish]

😂 😂

[coral musk]

There have been games where I've accidentally clipped out of bounds due to a loading problem. Also this is probably a slight acknowledgement of knowing that their game's decently buggy

[barren tiger]

lol, cosndiering that Activsion (was it them?) just sued and won against a cheating company

[pseudo fiber]

Can we get a flashback new york map when the twin towers still exist? I miss them 😭

[elfin hazel]

bungie has done it before as well

[long thorn]

its a "slap on the wrist" approach

[empty crag]

no

[opal radish]

Div1 New York has a nice feeling

[pseudo fiber]

L

[barren tiger]

https://tenor.com/view/bonk-gif-26414884

[pseudo fiber]

Absolutely

[last nimbus]

the twitch chat is more toxic than when the true sons first used the dc-62 on the castle 💀

[pseudo fiber]

Literally Terrorists

[empty crag]

twitch chat more toxic than when Amherest made the Green Poison

[coral musk]

I legit put a bingo card in #fanart-and-photomode for it cause it's so bad

[long thorn]

💀

[pseudo fiber]

Hahahaha

[elfin hazel]

countdown matchmaking fix tommorow

[long thorn]

uhh

[last nimbus]

lmao that was a good one

[long thorn]

i got a maymay now

[barren tiger]

😂

[long thorn]

wait can i link in here?

[coral musk]

I don't have bingo yet but it's close

[barren tiger]

ohhh missing blue prints

[empty crag]

oooh

[barren tiger]

they are ebing added to cp level 4

but not s3

[tawny linden]

are they fixing the bug on previous seasons audio coms?

[undone timber]

Bug?

[coral musk]

"2000 hrs in game never used a blueprint"

This is a lie but 🤣

[barren tiger]

https://www.twitch.tv/thedivisiongame

[long thorn]

i clipped the "No one will be spared" : https://clips.twitch.tv/ChillyStormyChoughNinjaGrumpy-L2ve3t3KWM3-7THU

[pseudo fiber]

What’s missing blue prints 😭
Idk if to hop on the stream now or when it ends

[tawny linden]

can only collect 4 and then they stop dropping

[empty crag]

😿 Black Tusk Quadroter crashed in it

[stoic bane]

They probably will, he might just have misspoken.

[hybrid ore]

I'm trying to think of the last time I actually used a blueprint and like, yeah struggling.

[barren tiger]

he said they'll be added later on i think

[pseudo fiber]

Hahaha

[tawny linden]

obviously a Dark side of the force kind of girl

[long thorn]

yeeeeah... crafting...

[long thorn]

haha

[stoic bane]

Yesterday 🙂

[opal radish]

I only used blueprint for improvised and exotic recalibration that's it

[tawny linden]

literally never, and I'm 4K+ hours in

[barren tiger]

once you hit end game is there any reason to craft? lol

[hybrid ore]

I could craft and get Normal tier gear, or I could go shank a few True Sons and get Heroic.
choices, choices.

[coral musk]

I had to craft hundreds of brazos kneepads trying to get HSD + RS and never did. But saying he never has is a lie cause you have to craft mods at the start.

[tawny linden]

nope

[elfin hazel]

dude I love my internet cutting out at this part

[empty crag]

knew it

it's Brooklyn

[barren tiger]

We're going BACK to brooklynn

[pseudo fiber]

But seriously did we get GOOD looking apparel? 🤣🤨

[oblique peak]

Will decent have all named items blueprints?

[empty crag]

it's obvious it was Brooklyn

[oblique peak]

Like will it have Dark Winter?

[pseudo fiber]

WHAT BROOKLYNNN

[empty crag]

duh?

[pseudo fiber]

Ok I am running home

[hybrid ore]

Mine died literally 5 seconds into it, so I'll just watch a VOD later.

[opal radish]

the craft mechanic gives very bad rolls majority of time so except for exotic recalibration and improvise it really is useless

[undone timber]

Didn't they have a teeny section of the first game in Brooklyn

[long thorn]

im grabbing shots in the ask channel lol

[gloomy wyvern]

Hoping for sunset park being apart of it

[empty crag]

the picture used was the Brooklyn Bridge from the Brookyln side

[barren tiger]

yeah the tutorial area

[coral musk]

all I care with the holiday event is that they put the caroler mask or whatever it is back into summit

[pseudo fiber]

Ohhh

[lone valve]

I knew it was Brooklyn

Bridge made it clear

[pseudo fiber]

I thought we going brooklyn, or do weeeee?

[empty crag]

it could be an expansion to the NYC map

[barren tiger]

story dlc

[pseudo fiber]

Can we go to Texas please

[viscid grotto]

DLC is free?

[empty crag]

since the Brooklyn Bridge is in the NYC map in Div2

[tawny linden]

👀

[undone timber]

Likely paid

[gloomy wyvern]

there'd be too many guns

[lone valve]

Pretty sure it's destroyed

[long thorn]

Snippet from twitch chat:

rhymmasta: Will Jay-z be included in the Brooklyn DLC?

[pseudo fiber]

Can we go to California and fight a Navy SEAL rouge agent lmao

[lone valve]

The middle of it was destroyed during the tsunami

[coral musk]

People with Kaiser tank builds looking at the new incursion 😎

[pseudo fiber]

Facts 🤣

[empty crag]

dunno how they'll top a literal FIREtruck

[pseudo fiber]

We going to Texas but plot twist, ALL the drops are just weapons

[empty crag]

😂

[barren tiger]

holiday fun....snowballs that go BOOM

[coral musk]

RIP Bingo card got deleted from #fanart-and-photomode 😭

[gloomy wyvern]

Indeed

[opal radish]

I want a cowboy hat and few magnums and a horse

[pseudo fiber]

Well, will he?

[long thorn]

plot twist, we are actually going to the midwest and all the loot is corn

It's corn!

[pseudo fiber]

Yesssss

Horse riding agents when

[gloomy wyvern]

The Heavies will be cows

[pseudo fiber]

Hahahahahah I actually LOLd

[opal radish]

the warhound will be horses

[barren tiger]

robotic voice Moo

[empty crag]

Div2 Incursions will feel more like a Raid

[gloomy wyvern]

Warcow when?

[tawny linden]

I can deal with that

[pseudo fiber]

HAHAHA

[elfin hazel]

no more raids

[opal radish]

😂 😂

[pseudo fiber]

Just emotionles Moo

[opal radish]

I like the sound of that agent

[long thorn]

"Currently we have no ways to skin an exotic weapon"

[barren tiger]

oh gods now there reading questions NOT from twitch lol

[obsidian hatch]

welp that was pretty exciting ngl. The only disappointing thing was with the new gear set nerf

[long thorn]

my bet is off the ubi fourms

[barren tiger]

subtitles: Angry moo

[pseudo fiber]

🤣🤣🤣

[opal radish]

mine disappointed with the new season is almost not getting damage talent

[hybrid ore]

They've confirmed that Incurions (at least 1) are being added, so I assume those are the replacement for Raids.

[barren tiger]

subtitles surprised moo

[obsidian hatch]

the team that made Raids moved on to other games so

Incursions should cost way less to make

[opal radish]

incursions were pretty nice clear sky was op moo

[pseudo fiber]

Not like this 🤣🤣

[coral musk]

linuslinusson: Level 50 cap plz
No, why?

[barren tiger]

Very angry moo robot now hunches down

[coral musk]

what is even the benefit of a level 50 cap besides fully resetting your gear stashs

[opal radish]

reminds me I saw one player with 80K SHD

[pseudo fiber]

This is way funnier then it should be to me 🤣

[obsidian hatch]

there ain't gonna be a level 50

[barren tiger]

saw one with over 900k even got a screenshot

[opal radish]

wtf his health>>>> armour 😂 😂

a real tank build

[elfin hazel]

no checkpoints

[opal radish]

gonna suck

[gloomy wyvern]

No checkpoints = hard pass

[obsidian hatch]

should at least have bosses checkpoints no?

[coral musk]

I wish there was a limited amount of checkpoints

[pseudo fiber]

Confirmed mod don’t like doing the birth

[opal radish]

yeah it kills the mood if u die too many time

[coral musk]

if someone crashes you can't invite them back either

[hearty briar]

Chat got cleared and follower only in twitch lul

[barren tiger]

okay i was worng hsi shd is 95K https://i.imgur.com/dEYvIxP.jpg

[obsidian hatch]

the apparel looks nice ngl

I like all the futuristic goggles thing they have

remind me of GR Future Soldier

[opal radish]

still my clan leader is 25K SHD and Jesus how the hell these guys farm this much

[azure lintel]

do i missunderstand ore do they work on a ned raid

[barren tiger]

i mean when the warhounds get ready to go boom they crouch lol

[lime fulcrum]

all hands on end game and dlc kinda sexy tho.

[opal radish]

😂 😂

[obsidian hatch]

the way they said, it seems like Season 3 Year 5 is when we finna hit Sokolova in the face

[barren tiger]

well they do....

[hybrid ore]

Finally tried the DLC for that in breakpoint.
looking forward to more Steve Blum impressions in my groups.

[barren tiger]

but...i don't wanna hit her FACE....

[obsidian hatch]

she does look nice ngl

I expected an old lady but

[opal radish]

ik

[obsidian hatch]

Season 3 name is Vanguard

which is Keener codename

dunno if there is any relations

[empty crag]

Keener story

they said there will be more story for Keener

[lime fulcrum]

maybe we and keener's friends gonna have chit chat tho 😂

[obsidian hatch]

he dead as hell tho

[empty crag]

He can appear as echos

[undone timber]

GRFS was doing gunsmith like 7 years before cod lol

[pseudo fiber]

ok I ran home, should I watch the stream from the current point or from the beginning?

[opal radish]

keener integrated with ISAC 😂 😂

[empty crag]

I said they could(and should) be around in pre-recorded echos left around

[obsidian hatch]

I know

[barren tiger]

is she a cougar or?

[empty crag]

he wants you to find his plan, so it make sense he leaves messages for you

[undone timber]

Goated game tbh

[hearty briar]

Keener story, he had a revive hive

[gloomy wyvern]

would be nice to be able to craft some death grips

[obsidian hatch]

she looks like she's mid 30s

[novel laurel]

What were the biggest announcements I missed most of the stream

[barren tiger]

now on to the PC crashes

[obsidian hatch]

uh, Incursion and new story DLC?

[hearty briar]

DLC's going to be set in Brooklyn

[pseudo fiber]

ok then I guess I watch from the current point then I wil lgo back

[opal radish]

well mine just crashed a few hour ago so no problem

[azure lintel]

someone know somthing about a new raid

[hearty briar]

They've said no more new raids.

[obsidian hatch]

Brooklin is the tutorial part in DIvision 1 right?

[barren tiger]

right

[obsidian hatch]

kewl

[lime fulcrum]

we could have incursions tho.

[hearty briar]

Yeah, Brooklyn's the tutorial area in Div 1

Yeah, but Incursions aren't raids.

[fair lake]

The armpatches they mentioned for reaching 10-20-30 lvl of Descent - are they one-time reward or every season there are new ones?

[lime fulcrum]

call it small raid.

[obsidian hatch]

ye baby raid

[hearty briar]

Would've loved to do a Riker Island raid ngl.

[lime fulcrum]

not actual real raid.

[elfin hazel]

not ready to disclose if dlc is paid or not

[barren tiger]

so don't expect anything soon on the PC crashes 🤣 😭

[obsidian hatch]

Bruh fr, Riker Island

should be like the final endgame for the RIkers

[hearty briar]

Imagine. Four bosses.
FIrst boss is the gate boss, breaching in.

[opal radish]

I want a raid with hunter bosses

[barren tiger]

shows multipass to the guard multipass

[obsidian hatch]

honestly, Riker Island sounds like it deserves an 8 player raid

but that's not possible anymore

so I can settle with 4 player incursion

[barren tiger]

patch notes later today

[azure lintel]

@azure lintel

[lone valve]

A whole new area in Brooklyn added
I woud be in shock and awe if its not
Paid
Wouldn't even mind it

[obsidian hatch]

they probably reuse Division 1 assets but heavily change it

[barren tiger]

removed the snow

[obsidian hatch]

reusuing layout, buildings but make it summer

[marble sluice]

We getting rikers?

[obsidian hatch]

no, it's a fantasy

[empty crag]

this

[obsidian hatch]

we are cooking Cleaners in Season 2

[marble sluice]

Lol

[barren tiger]

well now i have to go adult 😢

[empty crag]

there needs to be a Riker Island

[obsidian hatch]

what's up with Cleaners and burning big ass buildings

[marble sluice]

Lol big ass buildings

[gloomy wyvern]

Fire makes everything better

[barren tiger]

fire purges EVERYTHING

[empty crag]

also what about a Langley Raid or something

[obsidian hatch]

honestly, I gotta compliment these guys

Cleaners are like cockroaches

they just can't die

[empty crag]

Cleaners are one of my fav factions

[obsidian hatch]

same here

good intentions but extremely misguided

[empty crag]

Rikers prolly my least fav

[teal oar]

Hi, just went back from work... and missed the stream of course
What is new? what is good?

[pliant sentinel]

gives us the support station and reclaimer thx

[barren tiger]

great now i have a mental image of a cockroach with a flame thrower crawling aorund burning things

[empty crag]

but a Rikers Island Raid or Stronghold be awesome

[long thorn]

hmm

im now trying to figure out if any of the raids in Div2 are soloable

[obsidian hatch]

I sympathize with the Outcast the least

[long thorn]

thanks for putting this thought in my head @empty crag

[empty crag]

yw:)

[empty crag]

I sympathize with Rikers the least

but i think Outcasts are worse morally and ideologically

[obsidian hatch]

Outcasts are outright terrorists

[empty crag]

I think LMB is the most defencible

[lament mirage]

Just check the #patch-notes when the new season drops tomorrow

[long thorn]

i assume the raids all have forced player based encounters and mechanics?

[empty crag]

Last Man Battalion did nuffin wrong

[obsidian hatch]

I mean the Rikers is kind of the same

[teal oar]

Thanks!

[empty crag]

change my mind

[obsidian hatch]

well they are like NWO nazis or sth

nuthin' big

[empty crag]

how exactly?

[azure grail]

i don't think ill be using the new Gear set coming with the update, i prefer the phase 2 version.

[empty crag]

i think the Black Tusks are prolly more oppressive than LMB

[obsidian hatch]

Restructuring NY into a militant fascist city

where the military is the police

[empty crag]

there literally is no police lol

[obsidian hatch]

we are technically

[empty crag]

no we aren't

we're Government agents

[obsidian hatch]

and that alone already make us more police like

[undone timber]

JTF are the closest thing to police

[long thorn]

we are basically souped up civs with guns

[empty crag]

really there is not much reason why LMB is bad except they are competition

[opal radish]

yeah ina reigon where there is no government

[empty crag]

Keener is right about Division agents

[obsidian hatch]

not the rampant civilians execution and what not?

[cold parcel]

there will be a castle rebuild but no white house rebuild?

its so dirty and unsatisfying

[empty crag]

okay lets be real they're right in a pandemic where there's no government

shit gonna happen

[obsidian hatch]

it's probably gonna be changed gradually as the season goes

[empty crag]

JTF did the same aswell

[cold parcel]

ok

[obsidian hatch]

I don't think a pandemic allows them to execute anybody that doesn't fall in line with them

[undone timber]

In fairness the division also killed everyone they didn't like

[obsidian hatch]

that's fascists

[empty crag]

yeah

[undone timber]

Even their own

[obsidian hatch]

and there are a reason why some of them are rightfully marked as rogue

[tawny garden]

Oh best news so far: named blueprints drop in descent

finally able to get the hands on this

[undone timber]

Blueprints?

[tawny garden]

yea from former seasons

[hearty briar]

What was their justification for reverting Cavalier btw?

[empty crag]

True Sons were from the JTF aswell

[obsidian hatch]

the true agents like our characters never kill civilians

[empty crag]

JTF also failed

[undone timber]

Ohh that's nice

[empty crag]

LMB is just the JTF actually doin there job

[tawny garden]

all damage was too obnoxious tanky and a all end solution

[cold parcel]

they are just useless lol

[obsidian hatch]

throwing away their humanity probably helps

[empty crag]

yeah lol

[hearty briar]

That’s such a cop out 💀

[obsidian hatch]

when you kill anybody that doesn't agree with them, people are bound to fall in line out of fear

[cold parcel]

and to be honest our settlements could easily be invaded, they have 2 jtf civilists at the doors like come on

[hearty briar]

Just have it only apply tankiness to PVE and leave the skill damage reduction for PVP only

[empty crag]

literally all the factions do this

including the Division

[obsidian hatch]

yeah but JTF and the true Division agents don't kill civilians

[undone timber]

It's not just civilians

It's literally everyone else

[pseudo fiber]

UNLESS

[obsidian hatch]

the JTF that do so are now True Sons and Division agents that do so become Rogue

[tawny garden]

Yea im a bit torn on this. All damage would have made this set an actual useful for anything solution. So it could be like a mandatory role for all kindns of team comp - like a buffing support tank upping the defense of a group.

But on the other hand making it so strong would make it a no brainer.

[empty crag]

also did LMB do alot of civ execution?

[obsidian hatch]

yes?

[empty crag]

they were pretty much at war with JTF

[obsidian hatch]

they kill everybody that doesn't fall in line

so at least they give people a chance to not be shot in the head

unlike Rikers, Rioters and Cleaners

[empty crag]

yeah same with the Division

gives you a chance

[pseudo fiber]

DC and NYC literally at war with rioters and a former now dead WMD Terrorist (kenner)

[hearty briar]

Nah, Rikers gave people a chance not to be shot in the head. You just had to make them laugh

[tawny garden]

i dont know. thats not my definition of freedom.
And USA is the land of the free ...supposedly 😄

[pseudo fiber]

Ubisoft predicting the future? lol

[obsidian hatch]

we don't execute Civilians for not willing to join us

that's the difference between us and the LMBs

[hearty briar]

Nah, we just kill everyone with a gun

Even people we’re told to bring in alive.

[empty crag]

Division the most they can do is settlements while LMB is tryna actually build a nation

[obsidian hatch]

then again not like the don't start shooting at us the moment they see us

[tawny garden]

i dont know. i never killed a civilian or random person.

[empty crag]

i think the scope is different aswell

[pseudo fiber]

LMB are junkies of war, but rioters I mean as hostile "rioters" not civilians

[empty crag]

they are civs basically

[obsidian hatch]

Rioters are basically civilians that turn extremely violent

[pseudo fiber]

Any civ that carries a gun and try to kill you is not a civ anymore, he's a Tango

[hearty briar]

Would be nice if some of them actually surrendered

[tawny garden]

btw are TrueSons like this QAnon Patriot ProudBoys equivalent? 😄

[hearty briar]

But that would require a complete AI overhaul

[empty crag]

no

[fluid crow]

Yes

[pseudo fiber]

lol

[obsidian hatch]

I mean you'd bet a ton of them would become True Sons

I ain't even gonna sugarcoat

[hearty briar]

I thought true sons were just a military dictatorship.

[obsidian hatch]

they are

[tawny garden]

yea thats my thought

[empty crag]

of former JTF

[hearty briar]

Not really Qanon.

[obsidian hatch]

at least until Lewis start to rise to power

[pseudo fiber]

LMB VS Black Tusk who wins? guessing Black Tusk? because of their assets?

[empty crag]

they also have a different scope

[obsidian hatch]

Black Tusk 100%

[hearty briar]

Just disgruntled Soldiers who think they can do better than the suits.

[empty crag]

True Sons didnt want to rebuild the US

[tawny garden]

yea im not so familiar with USA politic..would call it alt-right or smth as a whole?

[hybrid ore]

it's implied that's what they are, but I guess MSV didn't want to go too real-world with stuff, so now they're just mall ninja types.

[obsidian hatch]

I don't think the LMB can even beat the True Sons

[empty crag]

LMB and Black Tusks do

[obsidian hatch]

let alone the Black Tusk

[pseudo fiber]

Mall ninja types is good lol

[tawny garden]

Yea i think they were a bit struck by how quickly how real it got already the past years 😂

[empty crag]

i think the LMBs could

[hearty briar]

True Sons are nation wide though are t they?

[empty crag]

no they aren't

[pseudo fiber]

LMB Could

[empty crag]

they're regional iirc

[obsidian hatch]

nah difference in fire power is way too large

LMB may have better soldiers but True Sons outnumber and outgun them

[empty crag]

LMB had more hardware

[hearty briar]

Cause they’ve got the entire ironworks under control, and intend to use the rail network to enforce their will

[undone timber]

LMB are all contractors though they have fancy gear

[obsidian hatch]

a single helicopter and one functional IFV?

[hybrid ore]

2019 was an awkward year to release div2 lol.
LMB couldn't even last past their own commander going, I'd say True Sons would win in a 1v1.

[hearty briar]

I swear they were a national force.

[empty crag]

and former marines usually

prolly served in Iraq or somethin

[pseudo fiber]

Doesn't matter, LMB have military experience from what I remember, they are organized (well they are until they don't have a leader)

[obsidian hatch]

Like I said, LMB has better soldiers no doubt but True Sons have way better firepower and arsenals

you see what they pack in the Raid?

[tawny garden]

Its strange that True Sons arent nation wide
But the Outcast which were a faction that had it starting point in roosevelt island quarantine is doin stuff over in St.Louis with rouge agents and nuken this city.

[obsidian hatch]

one shot from that thing and LMB will be gone

[undone timber]

Well

[pseudo fiber]

Firepower dones't have to mean better, Vietnam for example lol

[undone timber]

Packed

[empty crag]

dude the LMB has gunships

[tawny garden]

One would think the Outcasts are really regional

[undone timber]

Gun go boom boom

[empty crag]

APCs

[pseudo fiber]

Shadow Company takes both of them

[hearty briar]

Had gunships~

[obsidian hatch]

they used to

[empty crag]

LMB is basically Shadow Company

[obsidian hatch]

comparing what they have in DIv1 vs True Sons and it's gonna be a slaughter

[pseudo fiber]

True, just need the AC-130 lol

[obsidian hatch]

they have 1 functional APC and an attack helicopter

[hybrid ore]

I do wish that we had some more uniquely named enemy factions.
True Sons is a good start, but Outcasts fall right back down.

[hearty briar]

Then it collapsed because our agent wanted a new holster from Bliss.

[empty crag]

think they have alot of choppers

[pseudo fiber]

can we wipe out the outdated clans so I can take Shadow Company as a name to my clan 🤣

[undone timber]

I agree tbh

[obsidian hatch]

then why didn't they bring their troops out?

[empty crag]

LMB would have btfoed the True Sons

pretty sure True Sons lack air support

[obsidian hatch]

you gotta remember that LMB is stucked there

[pseudo fiber]

They do

[hybrid ore]

LMB also don't exist anymore.

[obsidian hatch]

if they have helicopters, they would just get the hell out of New York

[hearty briar]

You’re forgetting it’s a full quarantine of NY right

[empty crag]

we're talking about in Div1 before we dealt with them

[undone timber]

They all assimilated into BTSU iirc

[pseudo fiber]

RIP LMB, we're always a real one, amen

[empty crag]

amen amen

[hearty briar]

LMB were stuck on the island with what they had when the bridges went down

[empty crag]

kinda wish they weren't, imagine WONY LMB

[pseudo fiber]

I am taking LMB as my clan name, I am reviving the LMB, everyone rogue in DZ lets go

[hybrid ore]

Well they scattered, we know some of them went into BT.
BTSU are specifically the special forces sector of BT.

*Rogue.

[obsidian hatch]

people forgetting that the reason LMBs was still in NYC was because they were stuck there with no fuel whatsoever to get their troops out of the warzone

which was why they were pissed at the JTF

[empty crag]

pretty sure White Tusks is a different group in BT

directly controlled by BT

[hearty briar]

Thought it was that they physically couldn’t get out

The quarantine was still being enforced wasnt it,

[zinc shadow]

yes

[obsidian hatch]

yea, they heavily lacked fuel

[rain pewter]

I hate the black tusk mostly because of their stupid robo dogs with grenade launchers or miniguns

[slow steppe]

This a noob question. But are ppl still matchmaking for Legendary missions.

[empty crag]

Black Tusks organization is kinda confusing with there being a difference with Black Tusks and BTSU

[tawny garden]

Isnt White Tusk the survived rest of LMB who joind BT?

[pseudo fiber]

Yes

[hearty briar]

It wasn’t really a fuel issue though I swear

[hybrid ore]

Who said White Tusk? BTSU are the special forces faction of Black Tusk. Literally, "Black Tusk Special Unit".

[empty crag]

yeah

[empty crag]

yeah we know

[undone timber]

White tusk is just black tusk but they all snorted a line and their grenadiers were Heart of the Reich veterans

[pseudo fiber]

Think of the White Tusk as the Tier 1 unit, like DEVGUR (Old Seal Team 6)

[empty crag]

and the LMB became the White Tusks

[obsidian hatch]

Imagine Black Tusk is Navy Seal. Then White Tusk is their Seal Team 6

[hybrid ore]

What? no.

[empty crag]

but the White Tusks aren't part of BTSU

[pseudo fiber]

good timing lol ^

[obsidian hatch]

it's that simple

[hybrid ore]

Wait, you think that the White Tusk are former LMB because of their uniform colour?

[hearty briar]

Speaking of tier 1 units. Come on Massive. Give me a Named Outcast rusher boss

[rough sleet]

lol

[tawny garden]

nono i think i heard some official lore about that

[undone timber]

So Schaeffer is BTSU but the lackeys are all BT?